Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick your monthly fix.
I am the Canadian Nightmare Trest. Now I'm joined by on the story
finisher, David. Yeah, we got lots to talk about. Last time
we were here, we talked about restling night too, and man already in
like a lot changes in wrestling, but whether it's title changes, whether it's
people change their minds, certain lawsuits, you know, whether it is footage
being shown. There's a lot of stuff. But so yeah, we're gonna
try our best to cover the past month. Our kind of breakdown is gonna
be talking about backlash just happened yesterday, and we'll talk about aw overall the
month of that. Because the whole Elite storyline, I feel like, I
don't know, you can't you can't be somewhere in the middle. You either
got to love it or hate it. But we'll break that down and double
or Nothing and dynasty we are going to because as you hear, I suppose
not here he's gonna be back either end of Junior or begin in July.
He's got to focus on his study. So it's doing the right thing,
you know, being a good guy. You know, being a responsible adult.
Yeah should so. But yeah, once those are done, he'll be
back. But he had originally he's working on now you can follow his Twitter
threat, but he's like, hey, what are you some matches? So
we'd given them some, but we're gonna reveal our personal top ten favorites and
the criteria for that and then uh yeah, so we're gonna just get right
down to because we got a lot off, so we got a month of
cover. So uh, let's break down maybe the biggest fight of this weekend.
Kendrick and Drake. What do you think the thing that has actually kept
me up more than wrestling this week? I saw at insane times. Oh
I saw your feet, Yeah, I saw your feet. It's just crazy,
the back and forth and like, oh I'm here and cover there,
So no, no, we won't. We won't get there all ask David
is on the spot and if you don't have anything to come back to the
end. What is for people that don't know what's the wrestling feud? You
would compare this too out of all the annals of history and the WF even
WCWTA, Like, is there a particular few that go that's the one because
I feel like the obvious people jump to is like Sean Hbka, But I
feel like most people like, well, Kendrick's kind of pretty far ahead.
Where you never felt like that was Sean Brett, right, it was always
like they're like neck and neck. But what's your perspective on that. I'm
going to go a little bit different. I am going to go Hogan Savage
for you all you've got the friends turned to enemies, and you've got the
better artistry versus the more popular. Absolutely yeah that No, I didn't even
think Hogan Savage. That's a good one. The only thing missing is like
a lady in between them to break it up. But they're speaking enough about
ladies, so we're not getting to that because I don't feel like ensued.
But it's it's been an interesting Twitter weekend between wrestling, that sports playoffs,
It's a lot's happening in the entertainment world. So so yeah, let's get
into the draft here. So our personal draft. I spose he's been keeping
track, God love him. So we had lots of happened here and luckily,
you know, David, you're still in third right now, but a
big comeback because there's been some defenses. So you're at sixty six points,
I'm at eighty four points and s Pubs is at ninety points with at first
place he got plus eighty five. He had a really good backlash for him
because that that that that little kid man he got Cody Rhodes and he's gonna
main event like almost every pay per view this year. That bastard, you
know, like, yeah, I am lucky with the fact that I have
Damien Priest, so that's gonna get me some and now to clash, you're
good to. Yeah, well with Becky and Bianca, that's that's also gonna
help. So just come on going through winning King of the Ring. Yeah,
I will talk about that, of course. I think you got that
luck yeah for me, and I think you'll overtake me soon because I think
Money of the Bank is the next time that we can draw up and make
some changes. I lost Rhea and I lost Seth because Seth had to get
his surgery. So now he's out a minimum they say six to eight months,
so he's gone. But it's like for me, it's like I'm not
trying to reveal my strategy, but it's like, dude, drop them because
I do I want one of you guys to pick him up come rumble season.
No, like that's a tough thing. But now he's just he's just
sitting there doing nothing for me and Rhea Like what bad time? My This
is like a you talk about NFL drafts with total drafts my one and two
pick down, like like, thank goodness they had good manias and Seth was
on two of them. And at least my silver lining about Rhea, well,
she didn't lose the title, and we've decided that if you vacate the
title, we don't lose points because it's not really a choice. So there's
that her injury is not as bad. But still, like what I worry
about Ria is they're like, oh, they're gonna look into it, and
it's just been silent since then, so I worry it's gonna be like the
MGF thing where they're gonna wait and be like, oh, maybe she doesn't
need surgery, and then after all wa like, no, you still need
surgery because MGF he met that was the room we're in March with Tony Kahn,
and then I was like, no, you're gonna have to have surgery.
So we'll see, but yeah, s Bub's still still winning right now,
so we'll see what happens. But I'm I'm you know, we got
some good picks. You got Damien Man, good comeback for you. I
got Jade holding it down for me, you know, and end bond Breaker,
who's just gonna keep destroying jobbers, I think for a little bit.
So we'll catch up too, And I'm lucky. Anytime you get punts with
Jade, I get punch with Bianca, So oh yeah, it evens out
there, and I think we got that for a while. Like I'm not
trying a long term book, but I could see them not break them up
to like the Rumble this year and then you to me, that's the mania
matches Jane and Beyond. I wanted Bionca and Ria, but just because they've
done the Jade and Beyonca thing now, I feel like that's the way to
go. You keep them together, you break them up. Maybe they'll do
it at a different pay per view, but we all three of us wanted
the tag team, and I guess we can start with backlash. We won
that tag team and they're doing it, and I think last night it showed
overall. But before we get the specific match. What did you think of
the event? They said it was the largest gate in arena history, which
is crazy because there was only eleven thousand people there, So those tickets must
have been pretty penny there charging because they've been to many crowds that are bigger
than eleven thousand in arenas, but they must have been charging a lot.
But the crowd was We got a preview on SmackDown, but the crowd was
super fired up and it was tons of fun to see that crowd was on
fire. And I knew coming into it just based upon how they were on
SmackDown that it was gonna be a good crowd. But that crowd helped take
this peee over the top like it was already good. In my opinion,
it it surpassed my expectations for the peer wrestling and storyline aspect of it.
There was a moment that just shocked me that I did not expect it all.
So you know, it gets points for that, But the crowd helped
just take it over the top. I mean from the moment Randy Orton comes
out and they're all just going in on his theme and even he has to
stop and give them props for that. Yeah, That was the biggest thing
I said to you guys at our discord was it felt like WrestleMania as far
as the entrances, because there's one moment they just said, Kevin Owens,
he's out there for additional min and a half just soaking in the crowd,
and they didn't end up doing the like, oh oh man, every baby
face is gonna have this mega long entrance because they're just gonna be soaking up
the crowd. But yeah, it's funny because I saw a lot of that
was a big debate on wrestling Twitter was the card being like, is this
like a lackluster crowd for you know, or a lackluster card for this crowd.
There's so many people, it's only five matches. I'm still kind of
fine that I do agree you could have added one. I think the IC
title not being there, especially because Sammy's a and also from Montreal, has
that, you know, kind of some tie to being French in France and
all that all. Like they kind of had the same similar pop as Kevin
Owens. So but ww is they're following what Triple H would do with NXT
they like for those B shows. The five card matches NXT was always that
right, and they were around this that two forty five three hours, So
I don't and to me, I don't think it was underwhelming. I think
all the matches were good. I think one over delivered. You got some
surprises, you got some title changes, and again it like we talked about
the WrestleMania cast, which thanks for everyone, check that out. That was
a top ten episode last month for us, So thanks to everybody. But
we said like there was a lot of predictable stuff one night too, but
that's not always bad. So for me, I saw lots of people complain
what the jays the thing of oh I should pull the trigger. Between that
and the women's tag, it was good, but people are like, oh,
triple h h air, it's gonna be very predictable. But it's like
for me, that's like I don't need everything to be predictable. But that's
a good thing because it's like storytelling and making sense, you know. It's
like Vince would go sometimes too far. The other hand, like well we
gotta swerve them. It's like not always, you know, Yeah, so
you don't need sometimes the predictable is good and it's enjoying the ride to get
to the predictable, Like, yeah, I knew coming in there that Damien
was gonna retain. He's a triple H guy. He just got the belt,
like you gotta make him look strong. Plus it plays into his storyline
with the judgment day, so I then it's just okay, So how are
we going to get here? What's the question? Yeah? And we talked
back and forth. Is it because they did the bloodline teas which we'll talk
about everything. How'd you feel about the as s, Pubsey's watch and the
phenomenal chatter phenomenon I singing and wrestling. For me, I'm very mixed on
because I've been there live and I've been there to the wrestling. You have
post raw shows where sometimes it's fun and then sometimes you got people just spamming
in. For me, the singing was fine with aging. I think sometimes
it went overboard during the match because you lose cadence of the crowd in the
match, like AJ and Cody are doing like the yeah boo spots and then
when they're singing, it's like, ah, you've you've lost some of that.
So I think I like moments, but I could do like twenty five
percent less of the Swiss singing, but the crowd was having a good time
and they should get a mania or like Tripleach's on the last night, like
a stadium show, because they proved, okay, they could, they could
bring it, and it helps even the b rate shows that maybe somewhere else
in some crowd in America can This show would have been all right, but
for France it hasn't had a pay per view and ever, if at all,
it raised it. So yeah, no, I the singing didn't bother
me that much. There were times where I was like, Okay, the
crowd is just being the crowd. They're taking over, but it was never
I mean, it's not Cizarro with the beach ball levels of the crowd taken
over. Oh I was in that crowd and I hated it. I hated
it. I hate what chance. For the most part, I think there's
the odd time you can do it, but you know, it's just sometimes
again it's all about the amount of it and stuff. But let's talk about
the first match or first surprise you got the new bloodline sols Co Tamatonga versus
Randy Ron's Kale. We already talked about the entrances this, they did a
switch up to make it a street fight, which I thought was the right
call. Not that I didn't want to see just a pure tag team match,
but felt like the crowd was ready for something like that, and there
was no other like stip matches on this card either, so I was like,
okay, that's a I liked the way it was set up of their
brawling and they just say, hey, they're not going to stop, but
just whatever, no rules, had to fight, and I thought this was
like a really entertaining opening. To me, It's like like three and a
quarter, three and seven five, just because it's it's not gonna be anything
amazing, but you get what you want. And then we got a surprise,
but not the one we were expecting. But overall I thought it was
a good match and a good like outing for the New bloodline, but also
a tonga because this was his coming out party, right and I think he
I think he showed he can hang with these guys, and I think I
really like the edge of the character they're giving him. It similar to New
Japan, but a bit more of like an unpredictable sort of lackey hit man
in a way where you don't he could pop off at any more we're solo.
He was always like, well you knew Roman had to give him the
go ahead, right, Rome would do that where Tama looks like he could
just he's that guy in the heist and the Dane Cook joke that pulls up
the gun and just starts killing random civilians. Like that's Tomatonga and that look
he's giving. So I think it was a good showing overall for them.
They they put on what was in my opinion, necessary for thomas first match.
Because Tom has been in New Japan this entire time, he hasn't had
a televised WW. Everyone talks about how the style is very much different in
WW, so just letting him have this match where it's a little bit of
in ring work but mostly it's in the crowd. You guys are just going.
I mean, he's been a heel for the majority of his career.
It's only in his ladder run after hit the breakoff from the Bullet Club that
he started to have a little bit of a face run in New Japan,
But he was a heel for most of his career, so this is perfect
for him to just be that brawler, be that over the top wrestler that
he can be and give him some moments in that WWE space without going here's
a ring, here's a high end storyline. Show us what you can do.
Yeah, I think he's showing that right now. He didn't. He
didn't flounder, you know, So what do you think as everyone was expecting,
you know, after WRESTLEMANI we'red oh fa tu sign it's within weeks and
it's like all they might hold off, But we didn't get got faugh too.
We got uh Tonga Lowell. Their names the together are always like always
a mouth twister, but we got Loa. Who I had when you put
the discord I completely forgot was Camacho and w W that. I completely erased
that out of my mind. But this is like what we talked about where
I had a theory because obviously Meltz's been memed on a lot lately of getting
things wrong. He's always gone stuff wrong, but he can be reliable.
But the fact that lately they've been doing a better job of surprises, I
do think there has been some on purpose putting stuff out there to see who
is a mole and then who they can trust. Because Eventually, Meltzer did
share that he was signed the same time as Toma. That should have came
out the fact that nobody caught that him fight ful p W. I like
nobody else got oh yeah, you know, like he's he's signed. They're
gonna do good or you know whatever good whatever their version's gonna be. The
fact, like a good genuine surprise. I think he's good for this storyline.
I think that's about his breaches being a tag guy and this he has
knee injuries and of course there's some stuff on on. He's like he you
know, he's not always the Christmas in the ring. He has some certain
moves. I go, I don't know, But for this, I think
he's another good kind of heater to add and and again even joking he watched
his debut when you see the crowd, he got the refs leg But I
think for this and we're gonna get ooso's them lots of good potential and uh
it was again always fun when they can keep a genuine surprise. Yeah,
it was shocking to me. I did not expect and it's one of and
I even tweeted this. It's been a long time since WW has genuinely surprised
me. There's been moments of could they, couldn't they, or there's the
slightest chance, but we don't think that can happen. Then it happens and
you're plus pleasantly surprised. Like with Punk Coming Back, it was, hey,
we never know, Punk could show up at any time just to be
Punk, and but and when it happens, you're still like, oh my
god, they're actually doing it. But with this one it was I did
not expect it, but I act sally think it's the right call because with
Fa to you, you can bring him in and you can say, hey,
he's part of the bloodline, he is part of this dynasty. But
with Tongaloa, you can say that is Toma's brother, that is his tie,
not ess ah, he's also part of the Simoon dynasty. But no,
this is his brother, so that's why he's bringing him in, Especially
since Solo's currently having issues with his brothers. To bring in another one would
be like, are you gonna turn on this one? Is this one gonna
turn on you? This time? Bringing in Thoma's brother, it's like,
Okay, I'm fortifying my new blood line with people that I know I can
trust and how so where do you think this is all GOODNA factoring? Because
we talked about we never did the raw after Mania, we had the Raw
company, we haven't seen Romans since then. We got Paul saying he hasn't
talked to Roman since WrestleMania, which is interesting. Rock did this whole Hey,
I'm gonna be a go away for a while and then I'm gonna come
back to get you. You know, he's talking with Cody. I like
the segment. I know that segment was mixed. Some people thought went on
too long, was awkward. To me, it was like that was the
point. It was like a It was like to me two gun slingers that
want to both pull their gun, but they're not gonna pull their guns,
so they're gonna wait. And even the Rock being weird like well so we've
heard a lot of reports Rock being weird lately, but in the promo,
like I liked him being kind of uncomfortable, like let me hold it.
But the thing is we were tumblout this last night where no Rock. It
all makes sense because you got solo, you know, the gorillas, and
then fought two that's four and on the bloodline. You can do Roman Usos
and you could bring Sammy back in right to do that's our bloodline. My
whole thing is the second the Rock gets back, that's where it makes it
not a problem because I think that just gives them more opportunity. But then
it's like a five on four situation. I'm not sure do you get in
a situation. I'm not saying we're getting the Virus series or even a tag
match, but is that a situation where you get the moment where like a
co and Roman have to work together to go against the Rock. Because that's
the thing the row, because I think the Rock will come back and they're
gonna reveal that Soul has been kind of doing this under the rocks purview right
there. That's why they're on purpose trying to make it seem like is it
Roman, is it not? Rome's gonna come back reveal it's not him,
and then it'll be the bigger reveal of no, it's not him, it's
someone else, because I just don't see them making Solo the guy right now,
Like it'd be very odd to have the Rock wan to be the guy,
Rome wan be the guy and all of a sudden Solo also being like,
well, I want to be the guy too. I just feel like
it would be it would stand out. Solo would sink in that equation like
against Roman and Rock. So he's a better B player. So in your
mind, like, what is the kind of I know, we know the
end goal is probably like a you know, Rock Cody than the Rock Woman,
but just the actual bloodline civil war, what do you do when you
get a Rock back or is it just that they just kind of ignore that
and they just do like the the Solo's bloodline in Roman, What do you
see right now? Because there's lots of stuff flown around, and I don't
think, uh, like low was in our plans right now, right we
didn't really function for that because like oh fat in the Rock that's four that
makes perfect sense. But now it's there's more members than we even thought were
coming. So I think that it all really depends on the Rock. But
I could see short term being Solo stacks his blood line. I can see
Gorilla's destiny going and getting the tag titles. I can see them making themselves
strong. If the Rock is going to come back, then I see it
as a situation where the rest of the bloodline folds back in on itself.
They will start off against each other, then they will come together under the
purview of The Rock and he will truly be the final Boss. And then
you're going to have them versus Cody, And that's where you in the Rock
at that, you in the final Boss moment at that If the Rock's not
coming back and they can't strike a deal in that, then it will be
roman blood line versus Solo's blood line. Yeah, and eventually, yes,
someone's going to have to be quote unquote head of the table match. Yeah,
which is like, it's just so funny. If that's the like,
I agree with you, that would be the route. But if the head
of the table match is Roman and Solo, man, that is such a
I like Solo and we've seen some potential at him, so I'm not saying
they couldn't bring it there, but it's just when you look at that versus
the Rock, it's such like a like a lesser then, So I'd be
interested to see because that's a that's the big thing. It is the Rock,
right because even with MANI, it's like when the Rock gets back and
that's the report that oh he wants to do Cody, Like we do live
in a world now where it's funny enough we might not get Rock and Roman.
Ever, you know, like it's a possibility because what if Rock does
Cody and that's it or Rock gets big time injured and he does go Okay,
we're not gonna happen. You know, everyone has a scenario of like,
oh, we're gonna get Rock at Summer Slammer Survivors hears do Cody and
the Roman Mania. It's like, I don't think so. I think Rock
is a WrestleMania season and he's done it before. But I just feel like
he's a busy guy. So in a perfect world, that's the way we
go. Like I've seen the cards and I do agree like Seth Punk,
Rock, Roman, Cody, Randy like that is that to me? Is
like, oh that's throughout you go. It is interesting to me to see
if Rock doesn't for let's say that's the card, what do you have main
event night one to night two? Between those? Don't forget about the women
right now, because we don't know what they would do. What would you
have main event Night one, night two? Because either way, somebody's not
happy. You have three equation you, because then if Cody doesn't ma an
event in his first year's champ, that's a bad message. You're like,
well you're not last. If Punk doesn't main an event, then Punk probably
never gets that main event, and you know, the Rock's not gonna not
main event. Even though I never understand that because him and Hogan were at
the main event, it was still the biggest deal that night, right,
So it's like that's a very tricky situation with those six men. Randy doesn't
care. Randy will do whatever. He's a he's a game player. So
for for the long term stary selling, I think you have to have Punk
main event night one. You have Cody main event night two, and with
Punk winning whatever match he has, then you set up kind of a a
stare down between the two, like I'm here, I'm the guy versus I'm
the guy. And then it becomes a even though we're on separate brands,
it's a rivalry of who's the guy without ever having to truly cross paths.
So you leave them both not like, oh, well you were Night one,
I'm Night two. It's I'm showing you I'm the guy. Now watch
what I do versus what you've been doing, so you would put if it
was those three matches, you would put Rock and Roll and not main events,
just like a in the middle of the card and fired Up. I
like I would personally because I agree that for the most time, I think
there's like the odd retirement match. I know some might say they head of
the Table could be like the Streak equivalent. I think the Streak had that.
I always am put the titles last because you put that in portance.
In my opinion, I think I really don't know. I think if anyone
would get the boot, it would be punkin SETH if I had to guess,
because I think with you know, Punk's being a company guy. But
the end of the day, are they gonna put Punk's needs over Rock and
Roman. I don't know if they will. Hopefully just Rock and Rome would
be game to be like we don't got to be the main event. Let's
just steal the show. Like that should be the mentality of we can be
like Rock and Hogan, where it doesn't matter if we're like the fourth match
up, everyone's gonna talk about us. You know, yeah, we'll see,
let's see. RJ says I'd like to see both matches honestly, but
I feel the money match is coding Rock, which I agree personally. Now,
like Dave, Let's say a triple h comes to you and say,
hey, Rocks as he wants one more matching and only do one. Which
route do you go? Do you do Cody or do you Roman? I
do Roman? You do were Okay, you're on the other side of it.
I do Roman because for me, that is a more You've got your
long term with that for true Yeah, Big Cody, It's okay, we
did the match. We've been talking about the match. We did the match.
But where does either man go after that? Rock goes off into the
sunset. Cody gets to say for two weeks about how he beat the Rock,
and then he's on to the next where he'll say more than two weeks.
Where with Roman it is the true I am the head of the table.
I am the new final Boss. And then you can set if Roman
wants to keep his part time schedule, you can set him up kind of
like you did a Brock where he is the new final boss, where he
comes in, he does this thing, then he leaves. He's just there
to yeah, be strong, But then he can argue if he is just
part time that's the same thing as Brock, then do we want to have
him break the streak the part time guy? Cody's the full time guy.
You know, I see your point. I'm like fifty to fifty. Honestly,
I think any route's fine. I think it's tough with Cody now being
out there, like, yeah, I think it's gonna happen. I think
he should have maybe like reeled back on that a little bit, because then
if it doesn't happen, you kind of look like you're the second options.
That's the shit, Like, like I wish you would just meant gone more
the route of like, oh, whoever earns the title shot? Like,
but I get it. I can see Cody wanting the politic for that,
right because why wouldn't you want to versus the rock in the mane of then
WrestleMania, Like that'd be a huge form, right, There's there's tons of
history they can do there. They did that whole he gave him the gift
back and we don't know what the gift is still, you know, So
there, I think they are gonna go that route. I just hope we
live in a perfect world where we get both matches no matter what. And
the last point because we'll talk about because they weren't on this card. And
then when the next match, I just says, it feels like Punk and
Drew became the match for once see versus punkin Seth My still long time,
my long term booking is what's gonna happen RJ in My opinion is you're gonna
get Drew. Clash is gonna happen. Drew will get the title there,
he's gonna hold it to Rumble. At Rumble, they're gonna do. I
know people say hell in the Cell. I know, but I just maybe
they do hell in the Cell and Drew gets to win there. I just
think at Rumble you get Drew and Punk Punk wins. That way he can
have like only a mini title run so he's injury prone. Just have him
do promos, have him wrestle just small tags on the house shows. Don't
put this man in fucking last man standings against Jacob Futt like half him,
just like use his mouth. And then I think Seth, because we're kind
of thinking Seth's gonna be probably coming back at Rome with a surprise. Seth
wins the Rumble that's how you get there. So that's how I think,
or I do think. I agree with people there's enough heat to do a
triple threat match with those three two. I'm completely down. That'd be a
fun way too do the rumble where imagine Punk is at the end and Seth
comes back and they have to like a double winner. I'd be down with
that too. I think any equation of Seth Drew Punk is money, you
know, and I just hope I hope Seth comes back like a little more
less joke or Seth he can keep some elements, but like, now's the
time to like WrestleMania. I think everybody's like, man, he really put
in the work. I agree he was the MVP, especially once we learned
about his leg. It's like, man, he put in a huge shift
those two nights. He should be like the Shield of the w W doesn't
need to be the joker set anymore. He's past that. He doesn't need
that. Keep the song. Sure, but so we will see about all
that. Okay, Next up was let me get it Here was we got
Bailey, Iaomi, Tiffany Stratton. All I can say is they put in
the work there, They had the time and they just went for it and
Stratton. I'm not gonna make this exact comparison, but she reminds me of
MGF in the way that MGF when he was like twenty four whatever and was
like, Man, this guy's already this good at this age. What's it
gonna be in ten years? Same as Stratton. She's been in this business
for two years and already on the mic, already athletically. She like everyone
was good in that match, but she was the MVP. She stood out
the most of that match. She's always getting over, so I'm very excited
just to see what they do with her in next year. This week,
her like shirt was number one selling. But I thought this was a really
entertaining match. I would have liked it to go on a little bit longer,
but for the time they had, I thought they really delivered. And
you know, Bailey and Naomi always great. I'm interesting which route they go
if they just go to a Bailey Tiffany one on one, but I don't
think they should, because I think Tiffany should be one on one when she's
planning to win the title, because I feel like maybe maybe she could be
Queen of the Ring because she got have some fun with that. I don't
know, but really good triple threat. I really enjoyed it. What about
you, dude, I thought that match over delivered for what she assumed it
was gonna be. They went out and they put in work, especially Tiffany
Stratton. She like I knew she was good, but she was amazingly good
and her uh prettiest moon salt and then when she missed it, but she
landed on her feet and then still ran up one of them. I'm like,
the girl is showing her skill like the entire match, which is great.
I didn't, like I told you before, I felt like the ending
felt a little bit all right, we gotta wrap this up, guys,
go home. I would have liked at least another two minutes, not too
much longer, but if you had just given them another two minutes of one
on one before the ending. I do think that because of the reverse roll
up ending that does that did help play into the whole. Hey we're friends.
I just I bested you rather than the whole. I had to hit
you with three finishers to put you down. But I do just feel like
there could have been one or two more minutes of one on one to finish
that out and maybe even have some good back and forth and still end on
the reverse roll up. I just don't feel like at the end they had
enough one on one. That's fair. Yeah, And I can completely agree
with that assessment because I like the reverse roll up because how many times do
we see wrestlers do the exchanges and it's just like the quick one too quick
one two, quick one two in the crowd collapse, right, like yeah,
good joke. Like I like when you get the quick win, and
especially with here, it's like Naomi wish She's like, oh, you got
me, like and that's all it is. It's just like in any sports
games like I can't you. And that's the good way. It helps Naomi's
credibility too, because it's like you got me, but it's like in a
sneak win situation, it's not like you plowed me and just like, yeah,
I destroyed Naomi. Because Naomi's booking has been very fifty to fifty,
she's been back sometimes she's protected, and then there's times where like Tiffany beat
her in two minutes in a match, like, hey, what's going on
here? So I think now they're getting a better situation. Okay, Naomi's
still very over the crowd. Don't treat her as just like not to sound
offensive. Don't treat her like Natalia, who's just there to put people over.
Right, there's still star power in Naomi. I do agree Undertaker said
it. We said on the Resume show. I do think it were getting
closer and closer. We need a woman's icy belt. I like it if
it was like the tag where they went both shows, because there's tons of
talented women that now if they're not in the tag or the main it's like,
oh, what do you do. I'm fine if you do storylines for
them. But I think there's so many talented women now you can have an
icy title for them or whatever they want to call. And like Naomi,
she'd be like a perfect first champion for that, like to like to be
the inaugural one. So yeah. Tiffany, though she's a she's making sure
that people are second guessing like oh, did we bring up too soon?
No, she's making sure that's not a case. So yeah. And for
the history of the Icy Belt being the quote unquote workhorse belt, then yes,
please give it to Natalia. Let her have a genuine run with it
in a love letter slash apology for the whole farting gimmick from what ten years
ago or so being manager for like two years. Yeah, just give it
to Italia and then let her start. Let her do a seth where,
hey, this isn't a secondary title, this is a meaningful title. She
can show that through her pere wrestling ability. Let her drop down in n
XT sometimes and defend it. Let her bounce around other places independent brands.
That'd be good because they have done that with the women's title, like Open
Challenges, and you could do that right. That's how That's how John seen
to put that US title back on them. Anyone that does Open Challenges is
copying who was writer Senior? His idea that twenty fifteen US title run of
Sena. That's the formula. That's what Cody did with the T and T
title. That's the I'm gonna work every week and Dobie or like lower people
on the roster and give them a spotlight. So I agree, and one
hundred cent of same with this. Before people were talking about Tiffany being credo,
yeah not gable. Yeah, she to me is very much a female
version of Angle on Brock where they just picked up so fast. It's it's
and I think Angle's probably the better comparison because Angle is a great character.
We're Brock. He's always been like a he became like a good character,
but without Paul he would have been floundering. Like Paul helped him a lot,
you know. So definitely I think with Angle that peer just I'm taking
to this. I'm showing you my skill. I'm just a good athlete,
and that is what Stratton has shown. And she's like, I'm just a
good athlete. Now all I need to do is learn the nuances of wrestling.
But the athleticism I've got that. Yeah, and we thought Rowsey was
gonna be that in her first few ounds, and then she didn't really end
up being that. You know, there's some difficulty there, logan Paul,
the jury's out because it feels like not the wrestling community, but like the
real wrestlers are very fifty on them or something. Oh he picks it up,
but then other wrestlers are like, yeah, he's training for a month
for each match. It's like, yeah, I can see why some wrestlers
like don't want to give him the credit yet because it's like and then it's
weird too with Paul because I felt like last year he said he was gonna
be around more and it still just feels like the regular. He still feels
like he's a part timer, and that's fine with me, But I felt
like, there's Tremmick. Yeah, he's gonna be signing a new contract with
more dates, but his more dates are just him like appearing and doing promos.
So yeah, you're you're once a month's showing or you sending in a
video from your iPhone from pulside at your home. Like to me that that's
not showing up being there in matches, that's showing up. And yes,
he is training a month for his matches, but he is putting on some
damn good matches and long matches at that. He's not training a month to
go out there and do five minutes and he's not doing the Goldberg where I
come out, I hit you know, a couple of moves and my match
is over in three minutes or less. He's actually putting on good stuff.
So for the fact that he's taking all this, remembering all this and applying
it, kudos to him for that. But yeah, I would like to
see him in more matches before I can say that he is just a natural.
He has a natural showman for sure. The showman. Yeah, he
is definitely a natural showman. But as far as the wrestling aspect of it,
we'll see. I think he does have potential though, to be one
of those people just like Bad Bunny had that just he you could tell he
loved it, he wanted to do it, and he dedicated himself to doing
it. And as much as like like, I'm not the biggest Rowsy fan,
but then the counter at the same time, if you did that with
Rowsy, she probably could have bangers every time, right, but she decided
to go full time and throwing in the wolves and stuff. So it's the
same thing. What would happen if Logan Paul had to do house shows for
six months? You know, would he sink or swim? And that's but
that's the difference for Tiffany, obviously she's not a big star but has picked
it up big time, so it's yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to
see what they do with her career. That's why with WrestleMania card with the
women, I'm all over because I was so convinced he was gonna be read
in Bianca. But I feel like with injuries and new debuts, there's so
much happen with Charlotte. When does she get back? It's like I can't
really predict that now because there's so much kind of evolving. So we'll see.
Next up was Damon Priest jus So, David, I'm gonna let you
take it first to the match and then also just try and tell me,
like, what do we do with Damian Priest here? Why are we trying
to do a babyface I have one theory, but like the guy one is
a heel. Judgment Day is a heel in a world where we have so
many huge baby faces and w I just feel like they will throw an anchor
on this man by making him be a baby face in the sea of Kody
Rose, jay Uzo, ceem Punk, all the women as well. Like
we talked on the discord Randy Or and Kler's like he was like number eleven
out of who would be like your top baby faces. But what do you
think he defends? He retains some judgment. Dave shenanigans jay Uso over as
ever that crowd America do the same thing. Now, when you do the
Jay Usso thing, have your phones out, because that was that was yeah,
especially while they're doing the AK camera on their entrances to then have that
crowd shot, that is amazing. But when it comes to this whole Damien
thing, I don't know what they're doing, and I'm very concerned, not
just because I have him in my draft, but I like Damian Priest.
I like Damien pre since he was Punishment Martinez back and ring Alama like I've
always liked Damien prison. I think he can do so much, but I
don't see him as a babyface right now. I think you need to keep
him as a He'll champion. My thought is that they are trying, they
know, going into Clash the Castle that you know they want to send in
a heel versus face. But it doesn't make sense because just like and this
is going real old school. Jerry Lawler was a heel except in Memphis.
Yes, anytime he wrestled in Memphis, he wrestled as a face because Memphis
loved Jerry Lawler or hard in the late nineties, right, Remember, he
was heal everywhere, not everywhere, but he was heel in America. But
in Canada, Uber Hull Cogan babyface, you know exactly. So it's one
of those things if you know Drew's gonna go in there as the baby face,
regardless of what his character is right now, He's going in as a
face that so just leave Damian his heel. So why do you try to
have fire Damon as a baby face and just gonna look like an idiot?
Be a baby face, is gonna get boot out of the building a clash
like yeah, so let him be a heel because you know he's gonna get
boot and then that gives you opportunity to let him do all of the Dashaly
stuff. Let Judgment Day do what they have to do. And then if
he does lose at Clash of the Castle, which for the sake of WW
getting out of there with their lives and not doing this two years in a
row, if he does lose that clash to the Castle, and it's because
of Judgment Dan, it's because of all the hill antics, that makes sense
for their storyline, and you can continue to build off of that and then
you can let Drew go and do whatever Drew's got next. But there's no
reason to turn him face right now, it just it doesn't make sense.
If there was anyone in Judgment Day that you're going to turn face, let
it be Thinn because he can technically do both. But there's no reason for
Damien. I mean, now, for the match itself, it was a
good match. I'm still I feel bad for Jay with the moniker main event
in jay Uso and you're not really the main eventing. He's man raw a
lot. He's got those raw main events though. Yeah, you know,
but you're not putting on four or five star matches either, like you're doing
good three and a half star matches. Kenny though, it's funny because he
had to me because that was another mixed match. That very first match him
and Roman had Hell in the Cell that started that whole thing off. I
thought was like a classic where some people it's too slow, but to me,
it's like very old school Doty and I think he's I think he might
just always be a good wrestler who's gonna be Uber Poplar and that might be
the bar and that might be okay, you know, maybe he's I don't
know. I was gonna say maybe it's world champion, but we've had worst
world champions, like they made fucking Jack Swagger World champions Like if he could
be Jack's, he could be at least w World whc. You know,
so, hey, maybe they gave the belts a great colleague, so they
might as well give it to Jay, Like maybe he would have like a
long run. He'd be like a good summer fall in the future, like
a couple months, because not everyone needs to be a year and a half.
But I don't know, is that like is because I feel off he's
gonna get back with the USOS. But WW would also be kind of foolish
if they killed the Soul Act, right, So they're in a weird spot
where he's never gonna be the top guy, but he's selling merch and people
like him and they love cheering for him. So imagine the crowd doing the
jays and he's there with the belt in hand, Like I could see that
imagery and they would actually sell a whole lot of replica titles for the people
who want to be in the crowd bouncing along with him with the championship belt.
They should make a Yeat one too that Maybe that's the side plates,
right, the side plates. All the Icy doesn't have side plates, so
the world have. But I feel like you gotta do some yat side plates,
right, that would have to be it, But I guess it.
Is it fine if even the Wins like an Icy are us in the future,
Like, is that fine? You know? Oh, the Icy has
has plates, the Icy has plates, Like, so do they change the
side plates? Maybe he could do it. He could do it, yes,
because I'm looking at a picture of when Knackamora had it. They do
change it. Now it doesn't look like Gunther changed it, but when Knockamoor
had it, they did change it. Oh yeah, I'm looking at another
picture of Gunther whole Yep, Nope, they changed it halfway through Gunther's run,
So they do change it. So I could see him with the eat
belt. I could also see him doing you know how aw likes to do
where they just changed the strap on the back. Yeah, that would sell
a lot too, I think those eat ones. Yeah, so that they
can do a lot with it. I do think that they need to give
him a run at the belt soon before Punk comes back, because I think
once Punk comes back, that needs to be the focus. Oh see,
I think i'm their verse where I think they'll do it after because I think
they'll get him back with the bloodline stuff and that'll keep them busy for six
months and people go like, oh, Jay would be champion, but he's
helping his brother out, he's helping his cousin out, so they could use
and I think he'll stay He'll stay hot for it. I am excited because
you know what's gonna happen when they get back together. They're gonna make Roman
do the yeat and they're gonna make them do the bound You're gonna They're gonna
make them do that when they're baby faces. And that's gonna be when Roman
says yeat. That's gonna be a big moment. That's gonna be huge.
So with Jay, I'm I'm of two minds because, like I think one,
I think this was a good match because after the Jimmy match, people
really question Jay. I think people will really like it's over to the Ussos
again. I'm not on that bad way because like Dowie's not into throwing money
away and you can't look at me and say, hey, they should stop
doing the main event Jay thin because like he's over, right, even if
he's losing, he's over. Maybe they give him like a month run at
something I see, so I think what they're doing is here was fine.
I was surprised that the no bloodline interfered with him, so I'm not sure
really what's next for him. He's not in King of the Ring, so
I don't know where Jay goes from here. And that's why I just thought
there's been rumors of a trade. Maybe he does go to SmackDown and they
like, if it's bloodline, that makes sense because that's six months written out
for him. He'll fight Solo, he'll fight Tomah, he'll fight Loa,
he'll fight Jacob, like that's a bunch of matches already done. The Ussols
will get back together. So I think I think it all depends on if
he gets traded. And the Damien thing, to me, it makes zero
sense. I think your scenario of Judgment Days screwing him makes sense, and
it should have been the very first time at Clash and then the next raw
you start that baby face turn on this weird build up, and that's why
it's very odd that if they have Drue Damien and Damien's starting to be this
big and it was out of nowhere. The past year they've been cheating.
These were guys that were gonna like concuss Edge's wife, and all of a
sudden, now out of nowhere, Damien's just like, don't interfere in my
matches. Nothing spurred this on, and it felt like and that's where this
triple A chair is great so far, but there's still they still got some
cons and this has made no sense. And yeah, thins the more natural
babyface. My theory is they're doing this because when Ria comes back, she's
gonna be a babyface. They're gonna split off Judgment Day. But WW is
still very meh on intergender matches, and I feel like because they always talk
about her and Damian being the the twin Towers or whatever that is. I
think they'll have Damien turn face so then they can do like a live and
down versus Rhea and Damien. They can have Damian because I think they're more
connected. So that's my only theory. They're starting to turn Damien face so
he can turn with Rhea and they can do a lot of intergender matches with
them as a team. Because I don't WW should I don't think they have
the balls of the due down versus Rhea. I think that's a money matchup.
It won't hurt don to lose. He'll bump all over. But you
know how they are with intergender stuff, they're always like, eh, like
like we don't want to do it. They don't want to start it because
they know some of the women are better than the men, so they don't
even start that conversation that role. So that's my theory that they're turning Damien
so they can do like Live and JD Live in finn Live and you know
whoever. That that's what I think's happening. You know, I could see
that. My only thing against that is we don't have a timetable for Rhea,
So why start the face turning? Now? If you had a timetable
for Rhea, if you knew, okay, she's on the downturn of her
injury, she'll be back in a month and a half or so, okay,
start start your face term. Then that way it's fully planted by time
she comes back. I fear that if you start it and maybe she doesn't
progress with her injury and it's gonna take longer, then you just leave Damien
out there floundering as a face when he really doesn't need to be. I
do want to ask you one thing going back to the USO's in the blood
Line. Yeah, And I thought about this yesterday and I was like,
please, I don't want this to happen, but I could see it happening
just because everyone involved. Could Jimmy and Jay pull a Cody Dustin before getting
back together another match, No, another match that ends with the I need
my brother and then they they take on I don't want it to happen,
but I could see it happenings I feel like because if the reaction of the
first match was better, i'd say yes, because that first match is like,
heyll those one of the worst w matches ever, which I don't agree
with, but just that match is always bring up my timeline anytime that comes
up, like yeah, but they really shit the bed there, So like
I don't think so I think the what I think is gonna happen is somehow
Jay will end up on SmackDown. There's gonna be a beatdown, and Jimmy
will come to make the save and that's how they get them back together.
Because Jay did already say in Alid Domania, He's like, hey, I'm
ready to reconnect, right, So I think they've alreadlaid that, so I
think I don't think we'll get another match, And even though I'm pitching the
same thing, I think maybe that's the only thing they could do with Damien
is maybe he's gonna lose the title and he can one on one feud with
Judgment Day for a little bit. And there could be a moment where I
remember when they brought Nash back in two thousand and three, and I love
this moment when Shawn Michaels's handcuffed to the ring and Evolution is beating the shit
out of him and Nash goes back. He's like, what the hell's going
on? All my best friends like what, Like I'm injured and now this
is happening. I could see that happening with Rhea where she comes back and
they're being the hell at Damien. It's like what the hell? Like this
is not what's So I could see both Jay and me Henria coming back in
a similar situation where their friend or loved one sibling is getting beaten up and
they sighed against the group. So, because I don't I wouldn't mind if
Jimmy and Jay got another match, because they could do like a redemption.
Maybe you know, maybe they don't have a banger and then they prove everyone
wrong. But I don't know, because I also didn't agree with Jay's assessment
of oh, we didn't have that much. He said something about the time,
and it was like, yeah, but like that doesn't like we didn't
need to throw ten thousand super kicks. We knew they were gonna but they
did it to the point where it was like a meme level. You know,
yes, you can cut out some of that time with some of those
supercicks. Yeah, exactly. So Speb's's Lessener and Jenner match was Rihantoza,
So they have done it. But Tazao like job or right and a dom
I'm fine with. But it's just they because I remember that happened. They
were gonna do a Naya Jackson, Dean Ambrose, they get John Maxon,
they got cold feet, Like I think it's just because there's tons of people
when you ask some about in her generess and they know absolutely not, Like
it just is not believable, even though there's tons of women in the world
old that could kick my ass, kick David's ass, you know, like
the idea of a woman kicking a man's ass. For some people's like no,
like that couldn't happen. It's we're men. It's like, no man,
like I believe Rio could kate the shit Domosteere, like it's a believable
like even then, so it's just like I don't know. So we will
uh, we'll see what happens. But next we have we talked about a
little bit the beginning, but we had the women's tag all to me.
I thought this was a good spotlight. I love that they're doing beyond and
Jade. I think the energy is great. I love their matching gear.
I think they're throwing Jane in the deep end and I think that's good because
there was a couple spots. There's one I noticed where they were supposed to
do that double arm bar into the slam, and Jade went for it early
and then after she was a little flustered because she was like moving around,
But like, that's what's gonna happen. This is the time where you can
only have them to do the house shows for so long. You gotta do
your live. You're in a big match, you gotta go because then if
she sinks, then you know, hey, come time WrestleMania. We're not
putting in a fucking spotlight match, you know. And I think she did
well. This match to me was just this was a spotlight match and it
was for moments. The Cari finish everything. Kubuki Warriors are always good.
So no, I thought this was like what it needed to be and was
good. Let Jaye and Beyonca just dominate for at least six months. Like
I said, my my fantasy booking is to make it to the rumble.
Maybe one of them throws each other out. They like, they start arguing
that cost of title, and we're right on the wrestling a mega powers explode
for Jade Bianca. That's what I'm pitching. So yeah, no, it
was. It was a good match for those four. I think that the
way that they have Bianca and Jade's set up, where they're just two strong
women, like there were flights and throughout the entire mass just showing their pure
strength. I think that is perfect for them because if you do run into
a situation where Jade gets for lack of caught up in the lights, yeah,
all they have to do is do a feet of strength spot until she
gets her momentum back. And it will seem flawless for them. It will
seem in it too, like in character for them. Yeah, just hey,
show off your pure strength. I yeah that they leaned into that.
And you know, with them being one SmackDown and in my opinion, SmackDown
having the much deeper women's roster for both single and Tag, they they own
the women's division in my opinion right now. That they are going to have
a lot of good people that they can go up against, who can bump
for them and who can work into their feats of strength, and so that
that would just be good for them. Yeah. Let them have a nice
long run with the belt just being strong dominant women and that just be their
thing. Hey, we're not here to be the Hill group. We're not
here to be the face group where it's just strong dominant women and we are
going to dominate this division and show you just how strong we are. When
Jade came out, my girlfriend, who does not watch a lot of wrestling,
I mean, Hardley in your wrestling whatsoever. If she's in the room,
it's on accident to the point where Jade comes out and she goes.
She reminds me of Storm from the X Men. And I go, that's
the thing. She goes she looks strong, and I'm like, yeah,
and my girlfriend is a bodybuilder. She is training, she's got a bodybuilding
show in three weeks. So for her to look at this girl and compliment
how strong she is and how great her presentation is and that's coming from a
bodybuilder. That to me, I was like, yeah, so she's hitting
everything she's supposed to and that's the only thing you need to do now right.
It's just a bit. She doesn't have to be Brett Hart or even
as good as like a Sash Bianca just has to like a little better and
a little more skilled. Not that she isn't because the look and area that's
all there. That factor thing's already done. And the other reason why I
just think this is such a good idea. You're pairing her with imma opinion
a top three women's restaurer. I haven't done the list, but I feel
like it's like Ria Bianca and I'd probably go to Charlotte. You can make
it for uh, Sasha and Bailey and lots of others. There's other people
on xt T, but like to me, Beyonca, Rhea and Charlotte,
those are the best. So it's like putting Jade with Bianca absolutely the right
thing to do because she's like fantastic in the ring, has the character stuff,
has the promos, so it's she can like any spots that she needs
carrying Beyonca's right there, you know, like Beyonca is the person that could
work the handicap match and make it good. So it's like the fact that
Jade's there too that works, And uh yeah, I think I think this
is just like a money one and also give like you said, a long
rain because those tag titles they've really had like a messy history, you know,
a great start with Sasha and Bailey, but then they had like a
month run and then there's injuries, and sometimes they're just like they should be
important titles. All take titles should be, but like the women's one have
never felt other than maybe when they first debuted them. There's all this is
probably the most important they've felt since then. So I hope they make them
not an afterthought, and I think with Beyonca having them, they won't be
because they love Beyonca, right, So yeah, having a title that people
actually chase makes it feel important and for a while, It wasn't we're chasing
the women's tag team titles. It was, Hey, we're gonna have a
match and you're gonna be going for the women's tag team title. Oh,
hey, we won the women's tax team title. Guess we are going to
be a team for a while now, I e. Chelsea Green and Piper
Nevin. Hey saw before that. Yeah, you guys are a tag team
now, so here you go. You got the belt, so we're gonna
keep you guys together. Having people actually chase that belt and want to chase
that belt makes it so much more important when you think I suppose to ask
when the feud happens. Like I said, my fantasy booking is Rumbleton,
because I think, what's we're in June now, and they can even lose
the titles before we're remains that be June and July, August, Tember,
October, November, December, j Anyway, that's a long time. That's
that is that is eight months, So that's a tough time. But like
we said, if they give them a long run, like give them six
month run and then in those last two months you start to build the tent
and you make Jake. Because I think Jade's gotta be heel. She's a
natural like she's a good babyface but in aw she was a natural heal like
the that bitch promo. So I feel like you do six months of them
best friends tearing the roster part, and then those last two monthsly enough to
rumble. There's some contention, but they could do earlier. They could,
But I just think maybe the answer is also just when Jade's ready to Maybe
it's just they're gonna make it a case by case, But when do you
think could be the break apart? Well, you can use exactly what Sup
said, use the whole tension between Bailey and Bianca, and that is the
point when there is a split off. Someone's gonna want to go after Bailey's
championship, and that's where you split Jade and Bianco. Okay, we are
both the two strongest. Who gets to go after the belt? Do a
triple threat too, and then start some tensions. Remember when they did Cina
versus Michael's and HBK and that was that was a fun scenario where there were
team champions, but Sean Sweetschendingham right away. You could do something like that,
you know. Yeah, So it's gotta be. That's a good easy
way to create the dissension, to start to split the team, but also
establish some people for Bailey and keep that storyline going because right now, again
the SmackDown roster's pretty stacked, So Bailey's gonna have some challengers for a while.
So you can luck Bianca and Jade cook over and the tag team for
a little bit. But then, yeah, once she's had those matches under
her belt, once she's had those uh showings on the ples and showed that
she can actually go, then yeah, present her ready to make a run
out of World Championship. Yeah, well, because we'll talk about the king
Ring quickly before we get to the main event. Because yet, to me,
it's not that it's tough, right, it's not that it's not the
raw roster for the women. It's not that it's weak, because's a lot
of great people there are, like Dalky's coming up and like hervis Oscar that's
gonna be great. That's someone of the matches Io and Natalian, And it's
tough because men Ittalian. It's not that like it's just how we know they
booked Italia, right, you know, it's just kind of be like,
she'll be a good match, but she's there to lose. The other one
was Shane versus Selena, and then Zoe versus Ivy. I think the problem
with all four of those other than Selena, but like they like to a
Lessergie. But the other three, it's like Shana, Zoe, and Ivy,
they've just been like kind of floundering. Those are the ones, like
you talked about the worst of We have nothing to do with these people.
Put them in a team. She's with depri Oh, we have nothing to
do with Zoe and Shana. Put them in a team. Like I was
watching when they were doing the Becky and Trish storyline and Zoe was there,
but just like they never used that to help her out. So I think
that it's not that the raw women's roster is weak. I think it's just
that they have not been fleshed out too much. So it's like the when
I see these matches other than Oscar and Valkyrie, I'm not really that interested
in many of them. I'm like this, these are like regular raw matches,
which we'll get into the draft after about some black their switches off and
stuff. Like I thought the coda was cleared, like I would rather her
be in here too, you know, Like I don't know that's and I
also Rhea's gone right now, and I feel like the reason lives not in
this because they're probably gonna do Living Becky and that that makes sense to me.
So Living Becky I'm very interested in. But the rest of this I
don't know. But like we don't know the SmackDown side. But yeah,
how are you feeling about on the raw side for the women? Who do
you think makes that the way makes it all away? I'm not sure with
the women because there's not anyone strong. I would just guess Lyra because she
had such a good showing in Next Tea that they might use this to propel
her up. I loved Selena Vegan when she won, and I'm sad that
she's going against Shana to start. Yeah, I could see Shana winning just
because she has that whole Queen of Hearts gimmick with her already and they just
repair that. But I don't want to see Shana with a crown and all
that. Just she's not a good promo in my opinion, to be able
to handle the promos that the Queen of the Ring would have to, because
that's one thing that they are also known for. From Austin on, people
who have won the King and Queen of the Ring have delivered with good promos,
either during or after. Booker's run as a king, even Baron Corbyn's
run as a king was it. Regal had an amazing run as a heel
king, just sitting in the throne with the menacing look, and his promos
afterwards just were amazing. So you have to ask someone who can come and
deliver not just with the wrestling aspect of it, but also the presentation of
the king Grit queen, and I think Selena did an amazing job with the
presentation aspect of it as the queen. One of the biggest what ifs.
I hate that you remind me of Regal, Heal Regal, that was this
GM At the same time, I remember that whole problem is okay to the
lights off and they would move it to like I hate that he got pomp
for fucking steroids, not like that was the Pulsey right, so you should
haven't don it, but man like he was getting it. Look like for
the first time Regal was gonna be like a main top guy and that just
like him when Kenny got popped. Well that's a podcast we should do one
time, like our Top ten like what ifs and Regal cause he that heel
King of the Ring GM. He had heat, Like what a piece of
shit? He's the GM and he enters himself and King of the Ring like
what and then he's like that match where it was Cena and Triple H and
they ended the broadcast so you didn't get to see. It's like he had
so much heat going on, And you're right, I my pick. I
think they should give it to Valkyrie, but like to lose at the finals,
I don't think because I think if she wins, you always risk the
hot shot. We saw when they did that with Page the first year when
she won the title the first night and it was an uphill climb. So
I think you give her a good showing that she loses some veteran on SmackDown
and we'll see the names and all the men we got elvers Ricochet, Cop
versus Ray Gun, Through versus Seamus, Drew versus Finn and just a super
stat Like all four of those matches are like I can't wait, Like even
Kofe and Ray it won't be a clinic, but that's just gonna be tons
of fun. Like, that's gonna be a really good time. I have
to me the finals of the men side being Gunther and Draggon off and Gunther
gets his win back here, and I just don't think Gunther is gonna lose
this. I think he's winning the whole thing, but I think for the
raw side for sure. But great line up right there. Yeah, I
really really want Gunnthro to take the men's side, just because I think that
he would be an excellent king of the ring. Just his whole presentation already
leans into it. Rick Achet just won the Speed Championship, so he's gonna
put on a good showing, but he's not winning it. If the match
is longer than five minutes, he's screwed, you know. Yeah, you
can't win Kofe and Ray It's it's gonna be a good match. I have
a feeling Kofe's gonna go over and I don't know how how the bracket is
set yet, but I see him losing to goun Thro to continue that whole
New Day versus Imperium thing. Drew Mcintyron Finn is just gonna bang. I
don't care who wins because I know neither is gonna win in the finals,
but I just know it's gonna be a damn good match. Yeah, I
think Drew, it's just a question of when does Seampunk Screw. I think
that's probably it, right, is it? Right away? Is in the
finals, so he can lose round one because Punk's music hits and he looks
up and then Finn rolls them up and it's over right. Yeah, depending
on how they have it at, I could see a situation where it is
Drewe versus Gunther and it's the hard hitting match, and then the way that
I envision it again, I don't know where the brackets line up, Ilia
beating Ricochet going through Beaten Shamus. I think Gunthro and Ilia face in round
two, and then Gunther goes on for the raw final against Drew, and
that's where Punk cosst Drew in the raw finals to see who goes on to
the actual King of the Ring match. I could see that. Yeah.
Either way, I think you're getting You're getting Gunther and Draggon off and Gunther
will get the win here and then they're in WW Worlds tied. They're one
one, right, and then you can run that back at some point,
right, So yeah, great, and I'm excited to see the SmackDown.
It was weird that they revealed the Raw on Backlash and they're revealing the SmackDown
on Raw. I thought you would have flipped that because SmackDown's also on Backlash.
It was just my I don't think it was like why, But that's
okay, yeah, unless I don't know. Are they starting this week?
If they're starting this week, then it makes sense. So if if they're
starting this week, then they're like, all right, hey, this is
what's coming up Monday, and on Monday, we'll announced what's coming up on
Friday. If it's not starting till the week after, then yeah, it
doesn't make sense. They probably are because I forgot to say this. Usually
we wait a month, but what we'll probably be doing, whether it's a
Monday or Tuesday after we got double or nothing. May twenty sixth, and
then King of the Ring the twenty fifth, So the week after, well
that's will be the next giving episode because that's two pay per views back to
back. I'm camping for half of them, so I'll be gone and then
i'll have to like watch it all on the Sunday night. But uh,
yeah, you're right, they'll probably starting Monday. Because they're doing four matches
for each bracket for men and women's. That's a lot of matches. It's
not like some of the bad King of the Rings where we just had like
eight matches and that was it. I was like, oh, brother,
yeah, I've already told my family to check me out on that weekend because
my birthday's Friday. King of the Ring and then do nothing. It's a
three day event for me, So I'm like, yeah, nope, you
guys just count me out. Only text me for emergencies. And then we
had the main event. We had AJ versus Cody. I mean, I
start with you because you were kind of you, you were not mixed on
it, but you weren't sure how you were feeling. So now after not
twenty four hour oh I guess, no, I guess it's not twenty four
us. But a day later, how are you feeling? On the main
event? Cody retains, which we I don't think that if a J would
have one, I feel like, again, that would have been I'm not
saying Cody has to hold it for a year. But I feel like most
of us assume he's at least gonna get to like Survivor series, you know,
like I need my sign if AJ wins we Riot. So my first
viewing, and I do rank a lot of matches off of the emotion that
it gives me. My first one, I felt a little let down,
but I feel like that was my own fault, well half my fault,
half ww's fault, because the way that they had been hyping Unclehudi, that
cloud was over the match the entire time, and I spent a lot of
time thinking, Cody's winning this, when am I gonna get my Uncle Howdy
part? And so with that cloud over there, it was hard to fully
invest in the match itself. I took a couple hours break, and then
I went back and I rewatched the match without that cloud over there. And
rewatching the match, it did jump up from a three and a quarter to
a four star match in my opinion, just being able to focus in on
that, the story going into that and everything else, I was able to
better enjoy the match without the cloud of Okay, when are the lights going
out? When are the White six gonna appear in the crowd? When's this
gonna happen. Just enjoying the peer match itself was great, And on a
minor note, I love the fact that on the back of Cody's ring jacket
when he he's coming out, he put a border around his logo that is
the same border of the Undisputed Championship, So instead of the ww logo,
it's his championship in that border, and it even says Undisputed Champion under there.
That shot from the back of him with the crowd all doing the woe
at the same time, it was it made him truly feel like a big
deal champion. And I think that that presentation is going to be paramount because
right now he doesn't really have a big, storied challenger coming up. Right
now, it's just gonna be a couple of here and there until we can
get to a big program. But he doesn't have anything big coming up,
so keeping that strong presentation that everyone loves him as champion is going to be
paramount, and I think that that's what they did here and it was amazing.
I felt bad for Aj on the flip side though, with him just
transferring his music. This has been a great time. I feel like they
the crowd would have sunk his old music. No one knows this new deaf
rebel music or does anyone like it? So I see you in the chat,
ass bubs, I see praise AJ's new theme. No, man,
what absolutely not? S Bubs get out of here, don't. I know
you're a deaf rebel defender, you know, believer, But this AJ styles
theme is just it just it sounds like it's a song and a blender like
it's just it just does not have a good vibe. I'm not digging it,
but I just I joke. So I'm glad you are. But yeah,
if they would have had you don't want none all that, Like,
yeah, I would have been would have been great. I get that as
a heel. But yeah, I'm curious what they're gonna do this. I
really like the match. I thought they on purpose at like a slower start.
I'm like a four at five where I thought it was. When I
say better than average to me, people might sound like that's an insult.
No, because like most average matches is like really good nowadays, right like
ring quality is just good all around the board in w and AW. So
I thought it was really good. I thought the back half really picked up.
I thought the third quarter of the match, they're back and forth,
you know, the Bernie Hammer spot, the kickout at one, you know
using that, you know aw Kenny Omega spot, Like, I think that's
great. Canny Mega still is the best spot for that. Though when they
did the Osprey one, that's still like the that's the most recent one,
so you No. I thought they closed off really good. They had some
really good sequences. I'm curious to see where they go because I I'm fine
with them doing rematches, but I don't want to be in the old regime
where it would always be you'd have that challenger for like two pay per view
sets like and that happened a j Remember he was stuck with Nackamoor for a
while. He was stuck with Joe for a while. But my thing is
that they touched upon a little bit of the bolt club stuff, but they
didn't fully go there. And when I took one over in the match,
AJ didn't hit the forearm and he didn't hit the clash. So I don't
know either way. Is that them not having hey, we don't want you
to kick out because we want AJ to be strong, or is that well
we don't want to kick out because then in the next match when he hits
it, it is, oh, well, I didn't hit the clash on
you, so you didn't kick out of my stuff, right, And I
like that. I like that. Agent also just took one Crossroads and that
was it. Like, I'm all down for finishing exchanges, but they got
to be in key moments, and you don't also to make finishers just to
be like nothing nowadays, right, especially after Mania, my man's hitting like
five crossroads on Roman. It's like, okay, we got to put some
stank back on this finisher. It's gonna be like a signature move, right.
So I thought they had a really good solid at times. Old school.
It wasn't as unique as I thought Cody was gonna do because I remember
with the Dustin match and then match she had with Nick all this and the
Young Bucks match that him and Dustin had together. He would very much wrestle
some very very eighties style matches, and that was a big divide with people
because with Dustin it worked. And I remember with all this they did lots
of different spots and DDP got involved, so he I think he did more
of like a say for w W once. I don't think he's gonna bring
in some of those codyisms in right away. Maybe he'll do that when he's
not the main card or like the main event. But I thought it was
good outing. You know, hope people keep saying the crowd's gonna turn on
Cody. I don't see that happening yet, like not for like not not
at all. And yeah, him hitting the Kamora lock I thought was just
a nice little touch. And yeah, so he had that top rope Cody
cutter into his finisher, and I think that that was best. Like I
agree with you the spamming of the finishers that should be big fight. Feel
like it made sense for all, right, I had I did two in
the match earlier he kicked out, So now that I have another chance,
I'm doing three this time, and I got to take him out. Same
thing with you know, the whole F five's win. Brock was just hitting
him left and right like finisher matches. Yeah, it's like I've got to
put you down. And this was not a I have to put you down
type match. This was just a good back and forth. And yeah,
AJ can still say, hey, you know what, had I got the
styles class shown. You had I got the phenomenal forearm, you wouldn't have
stood a chance. So that leaves aj feeling strong. That leaves a chance
for another rematch where you can do that, but it doesn't. You took
away all that extra and they just had a peer good wrestling match and Cody
Lee's with everything on a high. The crowd goes home happy, people get
to again sing his theme song on the way out. It was a good
match and a good ending to that match. It felt like a big main
event in the way it felt like a New Japan main event, but in
a way where there's fifteen minutes missing. It's still a good match, but
it feels like in New Japan that would have went on fifteen minutes longer and
he would have got that other gear, and that's what I was kind of
hoping for. Is I still liked it, but I think there's a chance
they could got to me like a four point five. I'm not gonna put
five on them, because that's, you know, rare, but I think
they could have gone a bit longer because when the show ended under three hours,
I thought, oh, they're gonna give them like forty minutes, like
they're gonna make this a long and they they didn't. So that's where I'm
not worry. It's not I don't want to rematch. It's just not immediate.
But at the same time, I don't know who on SmackDown Cody wood
verse next. I feel like they might do aj again. I don't think
they'll do a babyface babyface with him in La Night. I don't think,
like, who are some other heels they got on? I guess we can
kind of talk about the draft too quickly, but like, who are some
other heels they got on SmackDown? Right now? That's what I'm liking right
now because I don't think that they, uh, let's see, they have
anyone major that can make that challenge. And that's why I feel like it's
gonna be age and I just don't. That's where you run the risk of
like that, and that's like the pro and con right, because then people
are gonna be like, well, that's why it was better when Rome was
because he wouldn't have those rematches. He was gone. No, there was
a way to do them, but you just didn't have to make them immediate.
But let's see, because yeah, there's I got the spect roster.
I guess Bobby, but he'll probably be in King of the Ring, right,
But like I would actually prefer Bobby's been announced for King of the Ring
though, right, I think I think that's officials. They haven't announced the
SmackDown ones yet. As I saw you say, you could see Gunther and
Bobby if Cody versus Carracrafts don't even don't put that on us that that alternate
feel. I hope if Bobby's okay, So here's my pitch. If Bobby's
in King of the Ring, then I think they're just new Cody and AJ
two, and I don't think they may an event if he's not. I
think Cody and Bobby could be good. It's tough because Bobby, like they
can't decide if they want him healer or face because they turn him back to
face. But then he's healing all over Carmelo this weekend. So I really
don't know. So I feel like we're probably gonna get AJ and Cody maybe
at least give us a stipn you know, do something a little bit different.
So okay, So for SmackDown and for the men's let's see you got
for your singles, top stars. You got Solo, Shinske, Randy Don't
Lais, Yeah, Carmelo Hayes, which could just good. But just like
I would be, oh yeah, Drodde, he's Babyface, I wouldn't be
opposed to a either Face Ko or Face l A Knight. Get him the
match. I don't know if that main events the show, but like I'm
not opposed. I'm never scared of like a baby Face baby Face match,
but I think those can be fun. But I guess we'll see. I'm
gonna say the safe bet that they're gonna run back with a j That's why
I think it's gonna happen. And maybe they'll have King of the Ring main
event or something so or the world away title, so we'll see. So
yeah, overall, good show. Uh, let's see. Yah Saudi loved
La Night last time. Maybe get thro rub there, but we'll go full
into this. But what did you think as a ton of the roster?
What were your thoughts on the draft overall that happened Monday and Friday previous week,
And it felt like that's the first time in the triple A chair where
I feel like there was a lot of this was a done. I don't
think it was like channel turning. I don't think it was like an,
oh, we're in trouble. I just think this is the first time where
a lot of people went man. Usually Triple A just delivered on these big
events and this era and it didn't really It felt kind of very similar not
bad Vince Ara. So it just felt like, oh, run in the
mill. A couple changes here, so I feel like this was the first
stumble. But luckily they just had a great pay per view, so I
think they're they're a okay. There were no big aha, gotcha moments,
and I mean I would have liked to see because they did stylize it as
the NFL Draft, which was gone on the same week, I would have
liked to have seen some trade ups or something else, like if you're going
to stylize it off of that, then truly make it an event like that,
like, hey, we have you know such such they picked him up,
but you know what, now we are trading him for two other draft
picks and things like that, Like do something like that if you're not if
you're going to make for the most part, the roster is pretty predictable.
They didn't change that much some people could be like, Okay, I can
see where this is going with some of the earlier draft picks, like okay,
SmackDown's got Bianca bell Air. Well, now I know that Montese Ford
is staying on SmackDown and Jade. Yeah, they're not. They're not splitting
couples anymore and doing stupid stuff like that. So you kind of knew our
well, this is what's going to happen. This person went there, so
I know that someone else is going to go there. It was pretty predictable,
so I think there could have been some more big moments and just let
that have. For as much as it was hyped up, it just it
did not live up to the height. I also think they kind of ruined
the whole thing with bron Strumman, you know, drafting him before having him
return. I think you have him return and then with the next set of
drafts that come right afterwards, go hey, now that we've seen he's back,
that's who we want. Yeah, I agree, that's good s Bubbs
with some more trash Giovanni and Cody strap the rocket to him. You know,
if he's bringing back his nx T with the with the Gugie and the
ferraris then yes, please, I'm here for that. Yeah. Well,
I hope he does that because I'm worried about him. But I think the
draft is in a very difficult spot because I think the best method is to
do like the Superstar Shakeup, where you just this show would have been better
if it's like, hey, only four people are switching brands and that's like,
oh damn Controls coming over. This is cool. But when it's the
whole roster, I think that's not a surprise. I thought, oh,
we're getting a really big reset, and we really Didn't's just them draft everybody.
So it's tough because you want to do a draft. You don't want
to do Superstar Shakeup because no one like mainstream like what's the Superstar Shakeup?
Drafts like, oh, it's like the NFL. And the tough thing is
like, in a perfect world, I would love it if the draft was
purely all you could do is you could only trade made roster guys and you
can only draft from NXT like the NFL, they're all rookies. That'd be
great, but the problem is the football community consume not everybody Like I watch
NFL, I don't watch college but tons of people that are mega fans watch
both, right, they know who's geting. Like when people get drafted the
draft, I asked my football friends, this is a good pick for us?
Yes, great, you know, but there's people that know this guy's
going here, this guy's going there. The WWE doesn't have that exact same
audience, right Raw and smacked in or watch anywhere from one point five to
sometimes three million people and is seven hundred thousand, So you don't have that
same You have a few of the big time like Carmelo and bron but like
like the some of the women, like Blair Downport, they didn't know who
that was, right, There was no pop there. So that's a tough
thing. Where an ideal world, I'd love it, Hey, we're gonna
draft ten rookies from NXT five or SmackDown five FRAU. I think that would
be cool to like replicate like a college thing, like, oh man,
they're coming up. But and I think they shot themselves in the foot.
They didn't have Braun or Tiffany at WrestleMania. They shouldn't have brought them up
till the draft, and that would have had like a bigger impact. You
still could have thrown Tiffany in a triple threat quickly. Maybe she like signed
some sort of deal like that'd be a fun thing too, Like that's how
they coached her. It's between Ron SmackDown. She decided to go SmackDown because
we'll give you a tell me, Like there's fun things you could do,
but it's tough. Like I said, you can't do shake up because you
want to do the draft. You can't draft from NXT because that w one
pull in the same ratings. So I feel that they should somehow just kind
of cheat and do the old ways where it's a draft but you do some
shake up. And the other thing is it's like it hurts k Fabe because
my brain breaks of like how can you draft six superstars with the LWO but
then you just draft one here, Like as a general manager, why wouldn't
you just draft all the stables and just have a stacked roster? You know,
why would you not? They never at any point said, hey,
NXT people, NXT champions are off limits. Why would no one draft Trick
Williams? Why Like, yeah, he's so right now the woof that trick
the camera move like there's k fab wise I could not look at anybody because
like, technically he is the NXT champion. He is the best on that
ross. Right, how is a GM? Why would you not draft a
guy that's the best in the roster and also very popular? Like that's the
problem when you make the draft sports like, there becomes issues and they just
make them non believable and it sucks. Also when the draft only has twenty
minutes wrestling, it's like, well, the draft stuff is exciting, and
all I got is Cody versus Carmelo, which was fine. I do think
even on the AJ match, he did like a backflip. Cody's gotta be
really careful these cutters, man, he's getting way too Like I'm at the
point where maybe he should just bust them out every once in a while because
he's missing him more than he's hitting him, and he keeps landing on that
shoulder. And maybe he did do a solid job, but my life lashed
before my eyes of man, the Roman fans are never gonna let this man
live it down. Three weeks in this title rain and he like needs soldiers
tree Like, I think he should leave the Cody cutter for PPV matches.
Stop doing it weekly he's he's missing it too much or the people aren't taking
it right. You know, Yeah, I agree, it needs to go
back to being a big moment. He busted it out and not just you
know every matchress sometimes twice in a not osprey because yeah, it's it's not
it's not there for you, like you know it it works for who it
works for, but for trying to take it. And then if people aren't
taking it right and you're putting yourself at risk, you're a champion. We
need you to be leading the way. It's just not what we need for
you. Uh. Going back to the draft, I would like to see
if NXT is eligible to be drafted. I would like to see NXT get
one draft pick each night. That is a way to send somebody back down
to Yeah, because that didn't happen. Yeah, you're right, because that
was that was the whole rumor they're becoming a third brand, and we were
like, oh, Timichael, there Knockamura and they didn't. They're still just
up, so which is fine, but it's like, if you're gonna make
it the third brand, you need somebody like a cord there, right,
But yeah, I could see that that would be a good way to bring
somebody down who wants to go down who because most of the people that they
do send back down to NXT are good people who just want more time,
more storylines. They're like, hey, I'm not doing anything. Like if
someone were to draft a knock Amra back down to NXC, I'd be like,
that makes sense. I could see that. And then he goes down
and he looks strong in the next t he's doing something, and then he
doesn't have to leave Florida, which I know would be ideal for him.
He gets to serve any time he wants. It's a win win, like,
so I could see that. I would, Yeah, if you're gonna
third brand them, if you're gonna make them someone that we can steal from,
give them a pick a Knight and let them take one person from each
brand as a result and say no champions. Yeah, two roads. It
just like you said, some things about it just do not make sense with
it, Like you can't seriously tell me that Raw is taking a cure Tazala
over Trick Williams or some of these and the n XT like does not make
sense. The other suggestion I would have for the draft, it might get
to like, oh, there's too much rules to fall, but I would
do something as like each brand and you could do rawl one nights, Back
Town whatever, but each brand gets one male superstar, one female superstar,
one male tag, female tag, one faction, and an n XT person
and that's where it's like, that's where you go, Okay, they wouldn't
go Ben asked anyone. You're like, yeah, why wouldn't you just get
trick dragging off bronze, Like no, you get one from an XT.
Like you could even do one male or female, right, you get one
male, one female. If you're not gonna do the college route there,
you get one tag team. So the same thing, why wouldn't I just
pick I'm gonna pick the bloodline, I'm gonna pick LWO, I'm gonna pick
the new Like, why would I not just pick every faction and just have
all like because then I'm getting COVID Xavier, I'm getting Solo, I'm getting
this. I'm getting like the fact that like the factions and even the Carlito
thing that was BS, he's always still with the lw' right, Like no,
man, he just he's just caught trying to murder. Like you just
want it so the few can continue. Like. That's where it becomes too
like like they try to make it like, oh, of course everyone knows
it's scripted, but they want you to make it feel like it's real.
That's what you make the gms feel like idiots and okay, they're just actors
and characters. Now you you lose the realism within the world of what these
gms would do. You know, yeah, like tzow over Trick Williams,
like who who's doing this? It would be more like a fantasy football draft
where you get certain slots, you know, so I can't exil up my
entire team with quarterbacks. I need a quarterback two running backs who aren't like
so it's the exact same thing. This is what you can draft, fill
up those spots. And then once that's there, then you you start looking
at a brand like, oh, they have to draft a faction now because
they've already filled up. There are other spots. So which faction is it
gonna be? That gives it some more intrigue. Yeah, so we'll see,
hope. I think I think the good thing with Triple H and company
they do listen to critiques and they change it up so I think that next
year they will either they'll be no draft or they will make it some adjustments
to you know, because it did poperating. But I think, I don't
know if it's gonna people next you will have that same excitement. I think
they'll make some adjustments. So yeah, uh yeah, so fun when a
fine we got aw and then will tell about our matches quickly, but so
aw. This past month we had Dynasty, which is overall was you know,
hailed as a really good show for them. They needed that other than
maybe some people having the h the jerich we ftw moments we talked about.
But what has been since Dynasty till now? What has been your thoughts and
aid to do? Because we left since then, we had talked about they
were doing the footage, and they had showed the footage and we talked a
little bit about that and stuff. But you know, they've I think kind
of had a bit of mixed bag where the Silvers are great matches, but
the Jack Perry storyline Tony Kahn, that's very divided where some people think this
is great or some people think it's you know, it's just Carney. And
even though every promotion's done it, they're going down the bad route. So
since Dynasty to now, where are you with AW? As far as the
past month and then especially with the the Elite takeover storyline? How's how's the
month of April been for the Challenger bround as t K with it. With
the exception of anything involving Chris Jericho, AW has been putting on some great
matches and some great storylines. Again, this this Jericho vortex thing, and
I do feel part of it is him leaning into it. I think he's
leaning into it too much, and it's just I don't want to see it.
I don't want to see you squashing guys. And even though you're leaning
into a joke, you're still squashing guys that don't need to be your You're
beating people that don't need to be beat right now. But overall, they've
had better matches. When it comes to Tony Kahan himself, I thought it
was hilarious and I love the fact that he wore the neck brace to the
NFL Draft. I just wish he would have kept his mouth shut, Like
when you're going on TV and they're asking you about the NFL Draft, Yeah,
keep the collar on, you know, protect Kfe Brother. But when
it comes to some of the other stuff he was saying to try and big
up the wrestling product, I'm like, you're not. You're not making wrestling
as a whole. Look that appealing to the outside universe. When you start
comparing people to Harvey Weinstein and things like that, that doesn't make people want
to run to your product. That makes people want to run away from wrestling.
Yeah. So other than that, I'm excited to see where things go
with the Elite and with everything in their takeover. I thought that what just
happened between Omega and Okada and the writing off of Omega for a while.
As much as I love Omega and I want to see more of him,
I'm praying that he comes back. This was good. This was a good
way, though, to stop the questions for a while, stop the wendsy
coming back. What you wrote him off, You bought yourself a couple of
months for him to figure out it's gonna go surgery, which rot he's gonna
take. Yeah, I keep seeing people book him and Omega Orcado four for
Wimbley. I wouldn't get that far. I know that, honestly, that
would be the goal, But I keep seeing like, oh, this isn't
Like no, Like, I'm sure they would like that, but I'm not.
I'm not convincing myself that's happening right now. I saw a lot of
that after I was like, no, I think this was to give them
some rooms. So like, if Omega's gone for like a year, you
know why you know, Yeah, I'm thinking double or nothing next year,
Like, yeah, he's gonna be Yeah, he's gonna be out for a
while and then return in enough time to say, hey, a year ago,
you put me on the shelf with this. Now I'm back. Like,
let that man have have his time to heal up, and I think
this was a perfect time to give him that opportunity to heal up. I
think, uh, I'm excited to see what Osprey does. I know a
lot of people are upset that he's not going for the world title right now.
I think it's a great idea because you just gave Swerve, who is
steal red Hot the title. Let that man cook, let Osprey do his
thing, Give Osprey the secondary title because it's not really doing anything right now.
Let him be over there, let him build that back up to prominence,
and then let Swerve do what he's doing with the world title. They
don't need to go against each other. Just now, let's Swerve have his
moment and let Osprey have his moment. You don't need to hot shot both
of them against each other. And because they're probably gonna do Wimbley again next
year, because they love doing events the same stop, that's where you can
sell that. Because I think Spray winning the world title wide Wimbley would blow
the roof off the already roofless place. Say that for next year right now,
it's gonna definitely be lower. He's not gonna be the whatever eighty thousand
it was or whatever it was last year. I think they're more round round
fifty. I think once they get some more matches of the car, I
think they could maybe get to like a fifty five to sixty, depending on
how good those matches are. The first year, of course, had like
a not nostalgia, but just had like a specialty thing to it, right
because the first time wrestling down Wimbley in a long time, and of course
given me something watchmen, Hey, this isn't for me. It's not ww
you know, like John Moxley and the straw the you know, sticks in
the head. That's gonna turn some people off, right, But I think
you can save that for the the Wimbley after I'm I'm with You, where
I think it would have been a hot shot. I think that title needs
it because much like everything with the Devil storyline, I thought Roddy at least
was gonna put on some really good matches. But they have just like secluded
my guy to like rampage to first, like people, you know he's gonna
destroy, Like it's very odd what that because Roddy can go, he can
put on he could put on a five star if you put give him the
right guy, right, So it's I thought they were gonna give him some
It's just like they didn't want him to beat top guys, which I thought
that's what they had Orange Cassidy do they had Moxley do with that type,
Like it's like Ky, he beat Kyle, he's beaten Kyle before and it
was a good match, but like, let him beat some of your bigger
stars. But I felt like they didn't want like, oh well, Roddy's
still at the beatire. We don't want him to beat like a even I
don't know, like a Claudio even or someone like that. It was people
that, like you know, aren't gonna win, so again they just gotta
get MGF back beat Adam Cole and then I'm happy Adam Cole's walking. That's
a good sign. Like I'm like the Devil Group would be much better United
Kingdom if Cole was around because he can talk and do stuff. But they
need to an MGF same thing. Who knows when he gets back. But
I'm with you. Where ospray when they're national title? Who do you pair
him up with? Then for Wimbley if he wins it here, who's the
defense? Oh that's a good one, so I would have him hopefully.
Okay. Also, before you go, it's rumored of the max is sixty
because the Swift concert. So there you go. Well, if they can
get to fifty out of sixth like that, like that's not like again,
people are gonna spend all the time at adivs in trouble. Their ratings went
up this week. They're even like Winnipeg this week sucked for a crowd.
They're quiet other than Omengo, but they're still like six thousand, like they're
still like they've been having some better shows so it's ebbs and flows. But
yeah, so if he beats Roddy, sorry I cut you off, who
would who would you have the big match? Let's not do Jericho rematch.
Let's not do that. Malachi Black rebuilt them up because Malachi, given his
history and his start, he is gonna go over a huge in a UK
crowd. You got two UK boys going at it. Let them go and
let them have the crowd on fire because the crowd will be just great.
What if he beats Edge though, and he's T and T they might avoid
that though, right like a the two titles, I don't know if he's
going to beat Edge. I feel like something will happen that will keep Edge
with the title just for a little bit longer. I don't see him beating
Edge. If he does, then okay, we can switch to somebody else.
There's other people that Osprey can take on and look strong against. If
you get a healthy Penta or Ray Phoenix, if they're healthy, they will
both be great against him. Uh. Pac would be another one that would
send people just screaming. I think that. I think that's the bandwagon I'm
I would be on like heat Pawk back up as a heel too because he's
more babyface, but heat him back up. Pawk and Osprey at Wimbley would
be that'd be a moment that'd be Brett wasn't British, of course, but
that I feel like that could be like Brett Bulldog where it's like this really
special moment. It's like you can't adopted Brett right because he's Canadians and like
he was. But that's that's a good one, Okay. I'm just looking
at the Ross right now. Joe is always an option because, like you
know, they'll of Joe a big batch. I think Penta would happen,
but I don't know if at Wimbley, I think they'll give it to one
of the bigger stars. I wish it'd be too much close to New Japan,
But if o'canda didn't have that other title, I feel like they could
have done that too, ocad on him. They were hinting at Jay White
as well in that Battle Royal or that casino. Uh it was was that
a casino? Gosh? What was the match? I can't remember the name
of it, but I really enjoyed that match when they had That's how Ospray
got the win. Where it's like it was like a Battle Royal or Royal
rumble, but it's like guys kept coming in. As to a good point,
the casino battle Royal is what they call it. Oh is it just
bat Royal? Okay? Even though it's by Pinfall Casino Gaunt, it was
a gauntlet match this time around. Yeah, and that was by pen and
I really like that. Like that's the one thing. You know, Malacky
isn't losing. That's true. We'll see he should he should be losing to
well. I guess we'll find about Copland. But too bad Cole wasn't healthy
too Ospring Cole would be another really good one because I feel like you could
have some fun dynamic there. But uh yeah, I'm interested. Same thing
with Swerve, Like I'm interested in who they pair Swerve up with. I
think I do agree with people they might run Swerve and hang men back there
because that's such a blood feud. They could have heat hangs. Yeah,
they could heat hangman up and just like I think that's the route you go.
And then yeah, Ospray and somebody, you don't you gonna get a
match? I think you're just hell you could even you know what I can
see them even doing Ospray and Adam Copeland there, like, I like,
I wouldn't put it past them because that's like a big dream match, right
And Adam keeps saying that he wants to work well, so why not Wimbley.
Maybe that's the one time because poor Adam Copeland, man, he wants
to be a heel. He tried to do in the crowd did not want
it, and I said that at the time. It happens like, dude,
you were gone for seven years. We're never gonna boo you. You're
the one of a fit. We're never gonna be you. But in Wimbley,
that could be the time where he could play up those heelisms. He
could like that because that crowd'sn't gonna be going for him. It's gonna be
going for Oscar. So he could, like fornight, be the real Radar
superstar and there could be some fun there. I don't need to be Christian
because he's gonna lose the Swerve, and I think that's a really fun matchup
Swerve and Christian. I think Christian always delivers. You know, he's gonna
cut some really good promos. You know, Christian's gonna find somebody that's Densworth's
family and he's gonna go after him. And I completely forgot. Like again,
when people say they don't tell stories, sometimes like aw, I think
they're doing a better job of it lately. To tie it back and it's
perfect. A Swerve lately has been hey, I've done some bad things and
I got to, you know, change my ways. He was cheating less
for them to tie it back to hey, six months ago, Swerve to
like get under someone's skin, broke into a guy's gym and just messed him
up. And for Christian to be like, hey, here's like here's your
commat, here's penance for it. It's like, oh, this is perfect,
Like this is great. So I think they have like a good story
there Nick Wayne, and people can bump for like Swerve can fight Nick Wayne
and uh, he'll switch Like there's some like heyres for in a fight.
So I like that, where are you now? On? We had Jack
Perry come back. We had a beat up TK, which be like,
oh my god, I took a bad bump. Everyone, please go look
at visit Man's first stunner. Please go. Like the general, these people
don't take good bumps, Like it's not like this is history, but like
we're doing a you know, of course, Bishop, ye know, we're
doing like a very similar nWo takeover by you got the new Elite. They
took out TK. He can't travel, doesn't look like Entance and new Terest
doesn't look like Kenny's gonna be the new GM, so it'll be someone else.
But where where are you so far on the elite takeover storyline? The
pro or con or somewhere in the middle. Right now, I'm pro.
I'm want to see where it goes. But right now I'm pro because I
liked their heel stuff, and I like their heel stuff because it's opposite of
the heel stuff that I'm used to. I loved the Young Bucks in New
Japan. I was a huge Bullet Club fan and so, but they were
more childish heels. Yeah we're here, pricks, Yeah we're here. They're
more methodical heels, and I like it. I like the whole them setting
themselves up to be the guys who need to be taken down, Like who's
going to rally to take down the elite? And as they're adding people and
they're adding Jack Perry and I have a feeling they're going to add one or
two more because if Bullet Club has taught me anything, there's never enough members.
Then who's going to be the force that takes down this group. That
being said, though there's not a lot of strong factions in ae W that
can Most of their factions are heel factions. You've got Bullet Club Gold,
You've got the don Kallis family, which to this day does not make make
sense to me. Yeah, and Shadow Will Hobbs. That sucks. He
got he's gonna durw on his knee and he's out for a while. I
knew it when I watch that match, because it's like you can tell not
all the times, some are great, but like you tell the way he
couldn't put pressure on that knee, it's like, oh, my man's fucked
up, and that that sucks. So yeah, But and but people around
don Kallis get injured. It keeps happening, So I do I do feel
bad for the don Kallis family. Let's see, we've got House of Black
every most of the factions are heel factions. So there's one though, Blackpool
Combat that could be the all conquering and I could see you do it in
a situation where they're all conquering, but not because hey, we want to
take back a a W because it's what's right. It's just as simple we
don't like you yeah. And I could see Daniel Brian leading the we don't
like you yeah, And you can also do the like we're not taking back
AW, but were what AW like represents like the hard nos wrestling, Like
it's not about taking over the entrance or the opening. It's not about the
pirate. It's like, we're here to wrestle. And like most people think,
like John mox is like the ace of AW, so you can kind
of have him there. So I I think that's the route. I think
there's I don't know how we do, but I think one way or another,
this is how we get Edge and Christian back together to fight the Bucks.
So I don't know if you maybe have Edge because like Edge did do
that raw ra AW speech, you could have him start something up like imagine
like him Christian Garcia, like you can have Copeland like he could be a
good leader for that and that gets them diverse the Bucks. That gets them
versus Okada, that gets the diverse, like he didn't have Jack Parr in
his list, but still like they can work together, so Cop could do
something. Here's how I can see you put Cizarro versus Okada for that Continental
Championship. The elite cheat, they come out and then they just start trying
to take out c Sorrow and or Claudio. So that sets up the Blackpool
Combat Club versus the Elite, and that gives you Claudio's reason for being in
there. Hey, I can out wrestle you. I know I can out
wrestle you. You had to cheat to win. Yeah, Mox is in
there because Mox likes to fight and Mox can do his whole I've been the
heart of ae W. When you guys were jacking around, when you were
off trying to play EVP, I was here holding it down. I'm the
one. I'm the one who conquered the person you couldn't take down with an
illusion to see him punk without having to mention see him punk, and then
uh Daniel Brian uh or Brian Danielson can just simply say I don't like you,
I don't like Yo Kata, I don't like Q Bucks. I can
wrestling you. I am better than you. Everyone knows I'm better than you
and I'm about to prove you can't beat me. And that is a perfect
way to set up that group. You don't need to add one more person.
I don't know what the status is on Wheeler Da right now. I
know he was hurt for a minute. I don't know how soon he's gonna
come back. But he can be the fourth to Jack Perry, and that
could be your big faction versus big faction. Well you get always and to
your point too, they might just add more people, so you could need
more people. The two people I already mentioned him, but is Garcia because
they already were trying to maybe recruit him once right, and this could be
where he finally joins the BCC. Him and you to put their differences aside,
because as much as they're fined, you're the things. I would not
mind Bull Club Goal joining the elite and having shit because like they've the same
way that Cody and AG didn't touch enough on the ball club stuff, they've
not touched enough on the Bull Clets stuff. With Jay White. I thought
for sure when j White got there and Kenny was healthy, they're gonna do
all running back us like they had them attack Kenny backstage. I felt like
it was very minor and I felt like you could really pull up the hey,
like the leadership went from Kenny to j you know like that, like
there was like it was Tomatama for like a couple months, but it didn't
it didn't really work out like it was fine, yeah, bally right.
It went from Kenny to Cody for a bit, back to Kenny to Talma
for like a little bit, and then Jay. Like there was so much
story there. So I think I would like if Jay got back into the
Elite Bowl Club stuff to hit on the history, there's new Japan stuff.
I think the other person you could always add that equation is Eddie Kingston because
he's Moxley's bff and he earned Brian's respect, right, so he's another person
and he's another like heart of a w guy. He's the I broke my
bones here, I you know, I'll do anything for this company. Technically,
another guy you could add is like a Darby when he's healthy, because
like Darby said, like he's never gonna work anyone. And also, if
you do my equation of adding the bowl called gold, they're the ones that
took Darby out right, so you could so there is you could do something.
So and that's where I'm with you, Like I'm positive right now,
I'm gonna let it play out. The attack the GM thing has been done
many times when people say they're copping WWE, everybody. WW was not even
the first one to do it. It was WCW. Like That's where it's
just like the tribalism wars is just like you gotta look back like WW like
copied them. Like it's like, yeah, it's an easy story to do
for me, I'm all about let's see where it goes. The footage we
talked about there was pros and cons. I've still was the fact that I'm
still I'm fifty to fifty on it and the fact that they i think have
actually used it in a good way to get Jack Perry back. It's made
sense because since Jack Perry came back, he hasn't he alluded to like some
like like the Jacket and New Japan stuff, but like they've not talked about
punk. What they've made the issue is Jack Perry is mad at Tony Kahn.
When he did that return promo where they attacked TK, there was not
a single seampunk reference shot anything. So like I think for me, in
the long run, one the footage in Kilaw they popped rating and then the
rings have been back and forth, so it's like they're the same they are.
I agree with you with the Harvey Weinstein stuff. It's it's tough because
like, is some of that true? Of course, ww is a hole
is gonna get sued at some point, not just Vin's, Like yeah,
there's other shady people in that company, but like unfortunately that's every company,
that's the NFL, that's he fucking has Rick Flair on his roster, who's
had some alleged stuff, right, Like, it's it's tough for any of
those big companies to throw stones because like we talk about all tum and Combooks,
UF, Marvel, DC, Star Wars, they all skeletons in their
closet. You can't do the like what about ism because like all of them
are tough. I get what he's trying to do. He should have just
talked up AW in that moment. I'm fine with shots, but I think
the those shots are there is there is a line. I'm not saying that
because I'm not the person who's offended of like no they're a better company there.
No, I guarantee there's still people in that company that new shit was
going on with Vince. I'm not gonna play the woe wwe They're all clean
now. No, there's a chance in six months we cot to be talking
about Triple Ah has been let go because he got a text and he knew
something right like, and I'm not trying to say it, but it's like,
we don't know what happens with these people lives like Nick con could be
gone. So it's like it's it's not like an unfair comparison, but it
is like a tough thing to say in the mainstream. But for the storyline,
I'm all down because guess what it created buzz. People were talking about
it good or indifferent, and that's what AW has to create buzz and also
do the good matches. They got the good matches down for the most part.
The buzz can be questionable. But it's the same thing I always say
about I've said this on podcast for years about Ron Tomatos. People can plain
about Ron tomatoes. They're usually the people that are like tweeting about it the
most or talking about most. If you don't care, don't watch, And
same thing with AW. If you think TK all this stuff really sucks,
then just move on. But they don't. And every time you send a
tweet about AW, you complain about it. You help them nasty, you
spread them around like you you get the word out there. Right, So
the better way is like when I stop watching WWE, I just would never
tweet WWE. I would just tweet about a match wrestler, but I would
not tweet about the brands because you still help them. They still get They're
still trending based on my tweet, right, so we're getting that engagement somehow,
some way. So yeah, so just still put them in your mouth.
But I think that's the same with AW, that there's still enough good
stuff that people want to watch. And I'm not saying w' is perfect,
but double or nothing I'm excited for. We're not gonna go over the quick
card they got Will and I and GOI vers Mercedes Monet. Monette has been
a whole other thing. I think they they should not have brought her in
when she hasn't been cleared. I think that was a fumble. They got
stronger zuspre we talk about Tony Storm versus Deep, which is like a weird
route we're going because I feel like every month they have Tony Storm. I
guess she's just a tweeter because sometimes she's versus a heel. Sometimes she's frissing
a baby face. I don't know. And then, like we talked about
swerving Kate, so already with those four matches, I'm like, that's gonna
be because at least you know Mournee and Willow. It's gonna be. It's
gonna be a good one. And I think I think Money is gonna get
to win there buy some foul player or something. So yeah, right now
they're set up with good matches, but not great storyline. In my opinion
for this pay per view, I still think that they are going to be
good matches. I'm excited to see over the next couple of weeks what they
do to set up the rest of the matches. I mean, because we're
gonna need more. I have a feeling Okada will be added to this somehow,
some way. You're going to Tag Team Championships are going to need to
be added. Things like that. You've got so many belts and right now
you have the World, the Women's and the TBS championship locked in, So
we're gonna need to find out what happens with the unified trios Ocada is Continental
and things like that. So let's and that's one of the problems with AW
is they have so many belts. Oh yeah, man, the only one
I don't want to see is I don't want to see the FTW Championship.
Please don't. Well you'll get that, you know you'll get that. And
that here's my pitch too. If Osprey versus Ocata, Copeland or Malchi Black,
please have them have on the belts and do like a unification of something
like, let's get rid of some of the like like put the I know
only just no, I just did the triple Crown content. I just yeah,
there there is too many. I agree with you. There there is
a less importance, like they gonna get rid of some of those. But
I at least do think Cage and Swerve they'll create a good story. I
think both of them can talk good enough that by the time you get there,
you'll want to see them the fight the other matches, I agree that
the story is so fort but at least with Cage, we just got it.
Even little stuff of like Ko ripping his dread out and now Cage is
like keeping his like like I always trust in Christian to get a good story,
like he he will make something worthwhile. It's an easy defense, but
like it's it's kind of like the aj Cody thing. It's like you kind
of want that for the first one, right, I know he did just
beat Claudio, but for pay per view, it's like I wouldn't expect us
to think, oh, Swerve is gonna lose it here, and Christians like
are good. He's always a good bag guy to put in that spot.
So yeah, all right, so well quickly our last thing, we'll go
over our last topic here, which was our ten favorite matches. At least
I put him that way. If you have him as best, uh,
you can talk about your credence or whatever your qualifications were. But yeah,
we did this because s pups. He's watching through some now, so check
out his twitter. He has a list of some But yeah, I because
I hadn't done this in a while, and I still think I needed like
in a year US three visits because there was a couple was like, oh
I should rewatch some of these to come back to. But I'll let you
go first, just go from your your ten to one, a little quick
fact of why they're there, if you got any honorable mentions and you shut
those out. And also what is like the qualifications for the matches that because
everyone listening going to be different for like personal best stuff. So what is
like what gets you to the ten for you? All right? So the
ten is based off of the match itself, match quality, how it made
me feel, and the lead up slash aftermath of it, because those play
a part into it. So I'll start with my number ten is the Young
Bucks versus Hangman and Omega from Revolution twenty twenty. That tag match, that
lead up was amazing. Hangman and Omega were amazing as a team. The
whole feeling before and during the match of all of these guys just being good
friends. But how are we going to make this work? And what's all
on the line for the tag team championship that that puts so much of a
story element into it, and even afterwards continuing with Hangman and his drunken downfall
and everything else, it was just it was good storytelling and just good pure
wrestling match, like all those men had time to showcase and that was one
of Hangman had his good match against Jericho and then after that, this was
a good way to continue to show why AW was putting their trust in Hangman,
and so that was great. Number nine, I have Omega versus Hangman
from Full Gear twenty twenty one. I am partially upset at this match because
I lived in Saint Louis at the time and it was a very strong possibility
we were getting Full Gear twenty twenty one because we had a show that was
derailed by the pandemic and then they were like, Hey, we're coming back.
We're coming back, but they did not say when, and everyone's like,
oh, it's looking like it's gonna be Full Gear. We ended up
coming back right before Full Gear because I went and saw a rampage taping and
now I did get to see see him Punk and Eddie Kingston have a pull
apart brawl slash go back and forth on them Mike because of it. But
that's when Tony Khan came out and was like, Saint Louis, I love
you, I'm going to get you a pay per view. Took him two
and a half years, yeah, to finally deliver on that. But Omega
Versus Hangman was great. I loved Hangman's entrance in that match with the horse
going through the empty city. Everything about that was just great. Number eight,
and this is going to surprise people where it's at on the list,
is take A versus HBK from WrestleMania twenty five. Oh. I love that.
I love that match, and I love the bill. Oh my god,
WHOA but long lasting feeling for me. Yeah it was a great match,
and yeah it had great moments, but just long lasting feeling for me.
It's one of those where I know it's a great one, but I
don't have the urge to go back and continue to watch it, just to
watch it. Wow. Number seven that was is Bucks versus Penta and Rey
from All Out twenty twenty one. That was just an amazing tag team match
and Penta's face and masking rip through that and just everything else. I mean,
those guys put it all on the line and I was here for it
for a tag team match. Let's see. Number six is Ospray versus Omega
from Forbidden Door twenty twenty three. Everything from the entrances, the build up,
the whole rematch, everything else that I can beat you. Everything about
that just seemed strong and I loved it. I loved the way that Ospray
was presented. I loved Omega coming out there. They put on a strong,
consistent match. Number five Sasha versus Bailey takeover Brooklyn. I mean that
was in my mind. If you want to ask me for a Women's Showcase
match, that is immediately what pops into my head. There's some others down
the line, Charlotte versus Rhea or Britt Baker's lights out match versus Thunder Thunder
Rosa, like those are good, but this is the one that instantly pops
out my mind. The build up to that, the friendship of that,
the thought of that, the the Bailey superfan crying during that, everything about
that was just like they made that match everything, and it is hard to
find a flaw within the match itself. Number four Styles Joe Brian Danielson,
TNA Unbreakable. L those guys just win. They just put on an amazing
match, and it is something that TNA was like, all right, we
got some good people, but TENA wasn't getting that shine. This one made
people go back and search out at TNA match Yes, going I have to
watch this, and so yeah, that that one gets points for me,
Like I could go back and watch that and still think, Man, these
guys are doing it. Number three Osprey versus Danielson. I mean, there
may be some recency bias in there, but that was just an amazing match.
The promos leading up to that match. Osprey's just his love and his
feeling, Daniel Bryan, Brian Danielson talking about dying in the rain. Just
everything about that was great. Number two Rock versus Austin WrestleMania seventeen. I
mean, the build up to that, the promo, the video package.
Man, I will still go back in what this ain't about, Deborah,
Like everything about that which is great. The turn of Austin, the handshaky.
Yes, it was the thing that Austin says to this day, if
he could go back, he'd call an audible in the fly and stunner him.
But it's still in that moment, the shock of it. And I
remember I was in high school when this happened, and I was just sitting
there in my living room. This is back of me. My grandfather still
used to watch all the pay per views. He was shocked. I was
shocked, and we're both just sitting their hands on hands, like what happened?
Like that looked just a lasting memory And if someone were asking what is
one of your most memorable wrestling moments, that is it that shocked the hell
out of me as an eight year old, I could like not process what
was going on because I was so young and you're just like your two favorites,
and then like the vincing, I was like I couldn't. I had
no idea, no idea rock selling the Stunners. Just every time that they
would wrestle it just got progressively worse. It was great, Like I liked
their WrestleMania nineteen match, the ride off in the sunset and everything else for
them that it had, But seventeen is just so much better and everything about
that just uh, it was just greatness. Fifteen always ever remember his last
lot. You know it's a good match, but a fifteen is always like
that. Yeah, Like it was a good kick. They proved that that
they've got good chemistry, they've got a good match. But man, seventeen
and nineteen are just yeah, just great. Yeah, I don't have nineteen.
When I talked to him, nineteen it's like a different type of good.
It's like like a slow movie type of good where especially that last after
we'd just for the last five minutes, where's just the rock being on so
cold and he has like nothing left and like he does like three hard rock
bombs in a row. It's like it's it's a really good lad. I'm
happy he came back for Ko as well, but like it's a really good
send off to that few. Yeah, the uh one more ride on the
vest like the oms knowing that Rock puts it on and everything like peak Hollywood
rock, like yeah, Rock pushing away head at the end, like no,
we're going to have a moment just him and I at the end.
So everything about Yeah, but seventeen just tops that for me. Nineteen was
great, but the seventeen tops me for everything about that. Number one I'm
going to slightly cheat but then narrow it down. Number one is the Ocado
Mega trilogy, but more specifically their their second Wreussele Kingdom match, like that
that was it. Dominion was great too, but the their finale at Russell
Kingdom was just peer peer art and or no, I think it's the other
way you have another way around. The finale was a Dominion and then the
first is that are you talking about Kenny won? No? Ok sorry,
sorry that yeah, you're you're talking about the first match right at that when
he won the g One Ken He yes, yeah, okay. Good.
So that their their Russell Kingdom match stood out more. Now, the Dominion
match was great, but the feeling going into the Wrestle Kingdom match the bill
to that was Kenny's ascension. Yeah, and having Kenny's ascension versus and at
the time King of the Mountain Okada and looking back like, how did Kenny
go from the light heavyweight cleaner to this guy? And that put Kenny on
the map for me. So that's that is where the emotional aspect holds it
for me, because that's what put Kenny on the map for me. Their
whole trilogy as a whole was just filled with classics. But this, this
ramped them up, and this established Okay, Kenny's that guy, he is
going to be here for years to come. And Okada was just Okada.
He came, he did his thing, and he proved why he was the
new ace of New Japan for wrestling. And so their match was just amazing.
But their whole, their trilogy has a whole I would just put as
my top because those guys gave it all. Every match was hard hitting,
their crowd spots, canny dive into the outside because they had the hard concrete,
they had the tables that don't break. I mean, it was just
they went for gold every single time. So yeah, that's my top ten.
Yeah they're tied, remember because it was they've both won one and then
then one was a draw, so they're still need that tiebreaker, which we
will get one day. Is it gonna be New Japan level? I don't
know. They're both fold and they've been through some stuff, so I don't
know. There's part of me that, like, I know everyone wants to
four and I do as well, but there is part of me of like
I trust them, but there is almost like a magic to leaving it tied.
But I can see why you'd want to at least one more time.
But yeah, all right, So I got a couple of on the we'll
mention. So there's other matches I didn't show. We'll probably do like another
top ten one day, like stuff like TLC two thousand and one or taker
mankind telling them cell where it's like technically they'd be in a top ten but
like they don't have the match qually, but because the most they're so iconic.
So maybe we'll do like a top stip matches or something like that,
because there's a lot of those, like Cactus Jack in Triple As from The
Rumble right where it's like I can't because I usually never put too many weapons
matches in my top tens because I like, I like just the one on
one. I think younger I did, but I like, I like some
usage of weapons, but I like one on one. There's rules and there
we go. I this was tough the bottom half for me. I had
some questions like also got to give the honorable shout to Rock and Hogan,
but again that's like a moment's match one that these are the two that was
the hardest for me not to put a double Yeah it was yeah that one.
Then talk about another double term bred Austin thirteen that was tough for me
not to put on because I was I really want to, but I didn't.
And then another one that was probably the toughest I would have to put
it as eleven for me is Beyonce and Sasha because I loved that match for
Mania. I think I always say there is an asterix on Night one,
but if you take that away, I could make an argument for that being
the best WrestleMania Made event match like quality wise, you know, I think
they delivered. There's multiple moments in that match, whether it's a crowd or
them or just overall like they they we That was one of those where it's
like Osprey and Brian where it's like, you guys gotta have something great,
you gotta be special, and they were. So for me, that's like
eleven. That's why the back half I need to I need to rewatch because
there's somewhere it's like, oh, it's tough. So when we were talking
about uh Jade Cargo yesterday, my girlfriend and I reference that Beyonca match because
I'm like, you know, it's like her partner is also super strong,
and I reference the walking up the steps and just the hard hitting of that
and everything else. So yeah, that that match was incredible, and that
was good because an nx T Bianc used to use her hair as a weapon,
and on the main roster she never did until that match. She they
saved it for like over a year and then that whip that do you have?
Yeah, like it that's I mean, like it has those moments where
I think years from now people will go back and talk about it and the
other one. Legitimately, if the finish would have been different, would have
been Cody and Roman from thirty nine, because I think Roman winning was mistake,
as we've heard of Roman and Paulse apparently this week where like came out
that they thought it should go a different rounde and it's just kind of funny
if Rock and Roman ever happens because of that. But I think they had
a really high quality wrestlming to main event. I think they had good chemistry.
This year was a fun one, but that was like the big brawl
and stuff and everything. So yeah, the backup was tough, But so
I have number ten Cody and Dustin. I loved that match. That for
me is what really put aw on the mat because one it was like we
were seeing blood to a high degree again on North America and wrestling, so
that was big. But it was the story. When you talk about wrestling
matches that are a story that right there, and that was nothing that was
like, oh we got Dustin and him and Cody are having the match.
There was no build up. They were on TV at that point, not
a bunch of promos and interviews back and forth. They did what they could
with YouTube and history and a promo pass and they delivered. And that's the
match that we all wanted in WWE, and we got that stupid start Us
Goldust match elimination cham where that sucked and I was like, Oh, it's
never gonna happen. And that to me is just like there's multiple images,
those images of them both just standing there in blood and they hug after match,
Like there's just something about that and probably just because like I am a
big Cody guy, I don't have a brother, but I can imagine,
like I at least have a sister them close like that bond, like what
they would have went through and like that that was one of those like it's
cheese but like you could just feel Dusty in that arena. I was like,
man, this is That's just like a special one to me. And
that's where Cody's not maybe the most talented guy in the ring, but there's
certain times he can be the best in the world given the right situation,
and that was a day where he did it. Number nine, This one
could climb. I need to watch it again. I got Osprey and Omega
from Russell Kingdom the reason, and I will spoil it now. I don't
have Rock and Austin seventeen. I agree with you, that is, But
for me, the finishes of both those matches is like what hurts it for
me because I hate the Austin turn because it's such a good match, but
like that brings it down. And for the Toronto one, I do think
the rematch was the better match. I think that's one of the greatest,
but I hate that Calus gets involved and they do like a screwy weapon finish,
and especially because like it's weird two man in the match. They throw
Calus out, they eject him and he comes back and it's like, well,
technically Ospray should just lose right here, you already. So that's where
it's like for me, I think the Toronto match is better till the ending.
So that's why I give the edge to Wrestle Kingdom. Also because that
build up of that press conference, all the shots Kenny was taken throughout the
year, Ausprey getting in his face and just saying like, you don't know
what the fuck I've been through. I had to watch my best friend's funeral
on a TV screen like it was great because I was full Omega. But
Omega like and they they play up that they hate each other. I don't
think they really do. But Omega lay it out and like let him like
make him look like a shit heel, like make him look like how could
you say? All this stuff? And it's one you tell moments. I
know, I thought Omega was gonna win that. I thought this is Omega
has come back to New Japan to put over the new foreigner. Here we
go, and when he won, I was in shock. I could not
believe they got Omega the win. I was like, man, New Japan
loves Omega. So that's why there number eight. This is when I saw
live and it was a dream match when I was a kid. I was
hap we got it. HBK and Kurt Angle for restumeated twenty one. That
is a banger sleeper. I think that's Kurt Angle and Sean at that air
like the peak in the two thousands. That's them at their peak at that
moment. They were both great at multiple times, but they just delivered.
I just remember some of those instances that Moon salt off the ring where it
just fucking clocks Kurt in the face. That ankle lock swingtens and that's when
Kurt really started to introduce the wrap around the legs on the ankle lock,
and you just knew when he got it was over. But then Sean was
like slowly like move. You're like, oh, he could get out.
I mean they had Sean tap again, talk about like ending where though would
happen and the babyface usual ever have taps and the like uber future Hall Famer
Shawn Michaels is tapping out. It's like they put over Kurt Strong on that
match, and that's like, that's something special. Number seven out of Sasha
and Bailey, I don't have much more to ad because you kind of hit
the nail on the head again. Lots of these matches for me are about
big moments and I'll never forget that Bailey reached over the ropes and Saush just
stomping the hell out of her hand. And it's not that women's wrestling wasn't
great, but at that point it was. But that was like, oh,
they can now, they can have it, which they end up doing
multiple times, but you can do a wrestlemaning main event with women, and
that was the most I think I'd ever heard a WWE crowd into women's wrestling.
NXT was starting to build, but that was like, this is louder
than anything the men are doing around the year. You know, I wish
that there they did the rematch, which was the thirty minute iron Woman match.
I wish they didn't bow out and did a full iron Man match.
I wish they gave him the full sixty. It didn't live up that,
but first match, that's like there's multiple people like aj Lee and other people
that start to even Stratus and the Bells will say they kind of did,
but I don't agree with that, Like there's people that put them up.
But if you want to look at a match that like started the women's like
evolution or whatever, it is like that's the match. That's the match where
it's like, Okay, this is a changing of the game. So number
six, I got a different tag with the Bucks and Kenny. I got
the Young Bucks versus the Golden Lovers. That was coming off the title win.
That was coming off that build up, that like three year build up
for Coda and Kenny getting back together, like him winning the title. The
hug Cody turning on him like everything that that Bowl Club Kenny Cody bull clubs
fine as Yeah, that to me is peak Bull Club for me as far
as drama was so good, and this was like that classic Kenny doesn't really
want to do the match and the ending where he's gonna go for the finish
and he won't do it, and that's just like do it, dude,
like hit me with it, and Kenny hits and doesn't want to and then
after they formed the Golden Elite like that was that was special to me.
That was so much stuff. It was the It was like a that's where
wrestling's at his best. That's like real life. You have a guy who
in storyline he has the love of his life, but then his best friends
who have the time don't like him. So it's like what do you do?
Do you go with your best friends or the love of your life?
And it was like Kenny in the middle of this. It was just oh,
just magical stuff. Yeah, I got Austrey and Brian at five right
now. It could climb up, but I just put it there because it
could go. It doesn't have the same story. It is just hey,
who's better right now. Who is the best in the world right now?
So it is a classic story, but what they did in the match made
up for it. Again, that's a situation where everyone said, you guys
got to deliver a five star and that easily could have disappointed because I feel
like I like the matches, but I feel like that hat with They'll call
it on Brian where everyone thought, oh, this is gonna be an all
timer and they never really got there. You know, those matches they never
they were good, but they never had that Austbury and Bryan that was something
special. It could climb. But I have to wait, I'm a sucker
for these so iron Man or at number four, I got Brent Shawn's Iron
Man. I love iron Man matches. I know some people don't. And
it's funny because, like, I'm not a basketball guy. My whole thing
against is like, oh, they're always getting hoops. Like it's like until
the very end, it doesn't matter about iron Man matches because I I love
the challenge, and especially because in the eighties they did so many you know,
oh, going to our matches. It got very rare in w for
to go like forty minutes, you know, so and if like, there's
been many greats MJF and Brian last year they did a phenomenal job, but
like Sean and Brett is still the standard. They did so many great spots
there, and again that's like peak ninety Sean, peak nineties Brett. I
love Brett Hart. Brett Hart's just like you know, excellent execution. So
I got that there. I got number three. Omega and Acata the wrestle
came the first one. I don't. I don't know why don't have it
high I think the reason I might not is because I didn't see it live.
That was the thing where I was not watching a bunch of stuff yet,
and then later on that's when I did hear the legend of Kenny Omega.
So I think some of it hurts because, like I saw all of
the highlights before and I knew the results, so it's like it was very
much like not going through the motions, but it was like, Okay,
I know this, but it still is one of these things where for two
years people said this is the greatest match of all time, and I thought,
for sure, when I watch it, I'm not gonna feel that way.
After the hype seeing highlights and then once I watched them like it could
be the greatest match. There's a difference where this is my favorite list.
If we were to make a list of the best match, which is purely
best like takeout moments, this could be number one, same way as like
Bretton Hart or Bett and Austin, this might be in the top ten.
But this is my favorite. So it's kind of like what Dave said were
there's some moments how I felt at the time wrestling, but as far as
best like that, this is to me still peek Kenny two of like a
bleach bleached blonde hair, the but terminator gimmick, the he has the best
gear. This is the best shape he's in too, because he is fucking
he is ripped and he's told like he's both things. He's like he looks
incredible. He's lean enough to maneuver, but he's strong enough that he looks
believable in a heavyweight match. He looks like a comic book drawn film.
He does not even look real like it looks like and the spots they do
the classic spot of Will caught of going for the rain Maker and like Kenny
just like go on Limp and he's just like so exhausted. Yeah, it's
it's such a special match. I can At the time, I thought,
man, they should have had Kenny win it once I got there. But
then when they did the win and they did the Gold Lovers reunion, I
thought, no, they're right to hold off on that, and that was
good number two. This is definitely more so. It might be lower as
far as quality of the mattress, but this is definitely too. Like what
David said to I agree, moments Punkin see Him or punkin Sam Punkin scene
at Money in the Bank, that was one of those are they gonna do
it? Is it gonna happen? Because if Sina wins that match, like
I was talking about the Cody Roman thing, if Sina wins that match,
this match is not on my list at all. It's not even my top
fifty because it's like, well another loll Sina wins Punk probably taps in Chicago.
There you go. But that was a change in the guard that saved
my w fandom because I was ready to stop watching Punk cut that pipe bomb,
and then when he won, it was like this, man, they're
gonna give them the ball? Did they know there's a whole bunch of issues
that happened after, but that moment will always stand in time of I just
felt like no one believed he's not gonna win, and the fact that his
contract was actually up, like it was one of those things. It wasn't
storyline. There was so much stuff and Punk was my guy. Like I've
said, like see it like Undertaker brought me into wrestling, seem Punk save
my fandom, and then Omega introduced me to a whole new fandom like those
are my three touchdones, and Punk that was my guy. He was like
I own every punctured imaginable. I'm straight edge, like all the things about
Punk spoke to me. I'm the same like skinny Fat, where I cannot
seem like big, but I always got some like there's so much stuff there.
So that was just such a moment for me as a fan of like
Man, and the match was really good too. That crowd talk about electric
crowds, That Chicago crowd that night is it's something. It's it's a magical
moment. They were on fire. Yeah, So it's just something I take
back. And then now because as you will imagine, my shocked when David
said at number eight. My number one's HBK and Taker and the other thing
that I feel very fortunate I was there live, and I think that add
too because being there alive, it was just that was the feeling, yeah
that I still think for me that was probably there's some NXT shows, there's
a couple others, but like being there live was crazy because I don't think
anyone thought Sean was gonna beat the streak, but being there alive for that
last time minutes, you're like, man, they might do it, they
like, and it was there's just moments too, and also being their life,
having no commentary. When Taker takes that dive and lands on his head,
you're like, man, like live, it was like, ah shit,
like what's going on here? You can't really check your phone like to
hear like Scoopers or people like oh it's good, Like yeah, it's just
you're like you're in the moment. And that was something. And that was
a dream match at the time too that I wanted for years. So I
was younger when they did like the cask at match of Rumble, like I
didn't appreciate Shawn and Taker as much as I did at that point where I
was like a graduating out of high school and stuff, and that was something
very special. Undertaker was my favorite guy. My sister's guy was Shawn Michaels.
So that was the other thing. We were like back and forth.
It was like, so, yeah, that was again maybe if I wasn't
there a lot, I still think it's a top tenor but being there live
that put it up to a different degree because it was it felt so special
and uh and yeah Taker was my guy, and that was peak streak as
well too, when the streak was as important, more important than a title
too. That was And the entrance is Sean gain that Mega heave an entrance
like it was. It was an event and it was and truthfully, yeah,
it killed the crowd. We know, we weren't into the rest of
the show after that. We didn't care a true threat, We didn't care
all the Hearty's, we didn't care about uh Ordon and Triple H. It
was they blew their load, you know. Yeah, yeah, it is
a great match, and yet you're you're right. The feeling of being there
versus watching it on TV like it definitely adds so much more to it.
I know there have been matches that I've seen in person and then going back
and watching it on TV, I'm like, oh, TV's not doing this
justice, Like that crowd was hot for this, Like how did you guys
miss that? Or there's sense where you go back you're like, this is
five starting your brain and then you're like, okay, I see a botch
there. Oh I see because sometimes you don't see that all right, but
when you watch, like Okay, this was just the hype of the wind,
the moment and stuff. So live always I can mess with you,
but that's a good thing. That's why you go live because like it's usually
always a great time, you know. Yeah, like Royal Rumble when Edge
returned and it was in Saint Lol, It's like, you know, there
that entire night, the crowd was hot. People talk about the Edge pop,
but that entire night the crowd was hot. But it doesn't really translate
to TV as well. Like you can see the reaction for the edgehot.
They really focus on the crowd for all it because they knew what was coming.
But being there, there were so many spots where people were just like
really enjoying, really going off and things like that. So like, I
definitely I can tell how just that feeling that those things give you. Yeah,
and like to your point, being there live. I was there,
alive when the Hardy's came back for that ladder reaction. That pop is huge
on TV, but in the arena, even without a roof, like it
was sol out, I could hear anything and even just little stuff like tombout
edge with me. And then we went to Wrestle's Dream. It's like a
smaller crowd but still was like on TV, did not do justuph how loud
Seattle was apt in the person, you know, because that's also a complain
aw for me, Like I think they sometimes mike their crowds up really bad
because sometimes it's we were there loud, it was loud. I was like,
oh yeah, shows on TV, but yeah, for that Hardy's return,
I remember I had got a call from the girl that I was dating
at the time. I told him like, I'm watching Russell Maina right now,
so I may or may not. She just had to call and I
have nast. She's like, Okay, this match is cool, lot a
match whatever. So she calls and we're talking as interests are going and I
remember telling her, go Herty's just returned. I gotta go. She's like,
what, Like, I've got to go, and I just hunk up
and she text me. She goes says, everything, Okay, I go,
the Hardy Boys just returned. She goes the books like, you don't
even understand. Oh no, you don't even know. That was such a
good one. But I literally threw my phone across the room when yeah,
they came back. I was on those classic of like it's rumored, but
not one hundred percent. They just were at Roh last night in a ladder
match against the Bucks. You know, yeah, a banger of a match
like this wasn't a quick match like they they put their bodies on the line.
I'm like, all right, they's somewhere at home resting. Yeah,
oh yeah, nope, they were there. So yeah, there you go.
We've done it. We will be back either next month or the end
of May, because yeah, we'll cover both double or Nothing or King of
Ring and see what's going on the draft points, See see the decisions as
far as who are our kings and queens the ring. See what other lawsuits
or changes happen, or firings and stuff, because there's always maybe the Wyat's
six will debut at that point. We didn't tell about that this time,
but may wait until then. But oh, did you see what I put
in discord about someone clicking on the video and looking at the source code,
And the source code was the Roman numerals for five to five, which people
would think is May fifth, So that makes sense. It's strange that they're
gonna if they bring him back in a Saudi crowd. I'm surprised about that,
but I think they'll bring them back in a big pay per view.
But I'm excited. I think they're doing a good job right now. They're
getting people talking, and as we send our discord, don't try and force
them as heels. Let them just be cheered. People like lost these rests
that are rumored, people are gonna want to cheer Boat. They're gonna want
to cheer in the memory Bray. Don't force it because they're an evil,
spooky group. Undertaker was an evil spooky guy from the majority of his career,
and he was a top baby face, like just run with them his
babyface. You could turn them at any point in the future. But right
now ride it's like back in the day when Seth Frons came back from his
injury. Literally has a video of him high on drugs. Be like,
when I come back to be world champion, comes back, what does Vince
want to do? Let's have him be a heel. It's like, no,
man like you gotta like you go with the wave, go with the
Just let them ride that, let them ride the crowd response, and let
them sell that merch from the crowd response and do everything else because you know
they are gonna make some money off of that. Just let me that.
Let the fans enjoy the fact that the spirit of Wyatt is there. Yeah.
So yeah, we'll be back. Maybe we'll be talking about that.
Won't be boring. Thank you very much for tuning in. H have a
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