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Hello, kleets, it's me John
can Sear the voice of the Crypt Keeper,

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and you're listening to Chronicles from the
Crypt. Hi. There, I'm

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Casualty Chris, and this is Father
Alone, and we are the hosts of

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Chronicles from the Crypt twice a month. Look at the horror anthology series Tales

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from the Crypt that aired on HBO
from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety six.

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But I think I can speak for
both of us at this point,

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Father Alone. Maybe nineteen ninety six
was a year too far. Definitely,

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let's say season seven was a season
too far. And on this episode of

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Chronicles from the Crypt, we're going
to be taking a look at what is

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ultimately our penultimate episode of this show, talking about Tales from the Crypt,

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at least at least the show proper
season seven, episode nine and ten,

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smoke rings, and about face that
tell me Luca Brassi slips with a fishes.

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Here's a strange guy. But that's
not why I called this meeting of

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the Five families. But to Hacklias, the Bonetties, the others. The

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reason I told you altogether is this
as godfather of the Goglioni family, I

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say it's time that we anhorganized crime, stop frighting each other. I want

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there to be peace amongst us.
I want there to be a whole lot

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of pieces, which is kind of
like the young man in ten Night It's

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Tale, he wants a whole lot
of something too. In a nasty nugget

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eye call Smoke Rings. So Smoke
Rings aired June twenty first, nineteen ninety

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six. It is directed by Mandy
Fletcher, written by Lisa Sandoval, and

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it starts a lot of folks,
but the ones that you're going to recognize

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right off the bat are going to
be Daniel Craig and one of my favorite

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character actors, as I know you
like him as well. Paul Freeman not

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in this. Also Dennis Lawson's great
Wedge Antilles. Yeah, I say from

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something known, much more from something
else, Yeah, Wedge Untilies from Star

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Wars. So Father Malone again,
we kind of let the cat out of

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the bag. The Baby season seven
has not been going that well, maybe

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being a very light term. What
did you think of the Daniel Craig episode

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of this season? Because we've been
talking about it like, oh, this

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is the episode one Daniel, you
know, what did you think of the

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Daniel Craig episode. This was my
first experience with the particular episode. It's

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one of those episodes that whenever somebody
will publish like a retrospective of the show,

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like, they'll include a photograph of
him from it, and I always

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think, wow, Daniel Craig was
in an episode that probably was pretty good.

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That's incorrect. This episode is not
very good. He's okay in it

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all. The acting actually is pretty
much across the board good. Yeah,

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it is the plot of this episode
that actively works against it. It really

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does. And so let me just
say Smoke Rings is not based on Tales

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from the Crypt. It's based on
a Vault of Horror number thirty four,

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written by Al Feldstein and art by
Reid Crandell. It is similar in that

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it's about an advertising firm. In
the comic, however, it's a guy

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who approaches a female copywriter at an
ad agency because he has a great idea

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for a new way to advertise a
billboard for cigarettes that actually shoots out smoke

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rings to grab the attention to people. And she thinks it's a great idea,

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so she leads him on that she's
going to sell the idea and then

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they're going to split the money,
but really she just wants the money for

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herself. So most of the comic
is her just constantly convincing him that everything

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is still on the up and up, when it's not until the point where

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they've built the billboard and the guy
isn't going to take it anymore. He

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knows that she's trying to screw him. So they meet at the billboard itself,

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and the smoke rings that come out
of the billboard are made from steam,

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which there's a giant vat in a
little warehouse kind of structure underneath the

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billboard. That's where the steam vessel
is, the giant thing of water,

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which she tosses him into to get
rid of him. And then the next

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day they're unveiling the billboard and they
have her up there and the first smoke

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ring comes out and it just kind
of envelops her and kills her. So

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there's only the only way to go
when adapting this particular comic is up,

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unless, of course, you make
what we had to watch. They somehow

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made it worse. Uh. Yeah, No, This is one of these

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episodes where at the end of it
I look back and say, what was

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even the point of telling this story. And look, we've taken a lot

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of flack and we're going to continue
to take a lot of flack because this

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podcast will exist until the imminent heat
death of this planet. But we have

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taken a lot of flack on this
show, at least from people listen to

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this show for you know, we
don't like the show. We don't care

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about the show. We're not fans
of the show. You know, blindly

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liking something because it's the show and
not being able to view it critically is

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worse than being critical of something.
And I'm what am I leading to with

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all of this? This season of
the show is awful with a capital A.

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We have seen very few, if
any episode so far this season that

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are redeemable. They have all been
the worst versions of things we've seen before.

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And this episode is right there in
a long list of episodes where it's

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twist first, everything else doesn't matter. Character development nope, interesting dialogue nope,

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interesting scenes nope. Gore and other
visuals nope. Like why are we

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even here now? Why are why
are we here watching this show? If

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the show has stopped respecting our time? You know, we've said this probably

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a couple of times now that it
does feel like the material for this season

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is just the leftovers from the previous
seasons, that they just opened the trunk

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and pulled these out. I maintain
that that's what happened, which is a

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drag because this is the last season
and they felt like we didn't deserve better,

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but also a drag because you find
out that you're going to get one

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more season and it's going to be
in England and removed from everything, and

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now you could actually take all the
risks in the world. This is you

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know, this is going to be
the last season, so like, you

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know, blow it out, like
make it insane. Instead, we're getting

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the filler episodes from previous seasons instead
of what could have been a spectacular,

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bloody gory And to the tailors from
the Crypt franchise, they you know,

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a Viking funeral instead of just a
somber cremation. And you know that's the

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sad reality is that they just kind
of let this show die. Died on

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the vine, right, But let's
let's talk about the episode itself. Obviously,

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they used the comic more than not
as far as somebody who got screwed

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over by an ad agency and getting
revenge. It's the same basic plot here.

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We have Paul Paul Freeman, who
you know was fired and stepped over,

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and he needs to get back at
these people. So he's invented a

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device that subliminally makes people crave whatever
object you're offering them, which is a

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great tool for advertising. And instead
of just going to any ad agency in

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the world and saying I'll sell this
to you for ten million dollars or a

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billion dollars, he uses it in
this petty revenge scheme. And he doesn't

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even do it himself. I mean, he uses a proxy, which is

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the Daniel Craig character. And then, as you say, Chris, it's

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just like they're so caught up and
we have to have a twist and a

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twist and a twist that I don't
know. It's just laughable in a way

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and at the same time not but
that doesn't represent something that I kind of

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hate in stories like this, Revenge
or not, where somebody has invented a

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device that is like so revolutionary that
they would be rich beyond their wildest dreams,

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and instead they use it for as
just a plot device for the story

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we're seeing. It's really dumb.
I wish people would stop doing that.

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And then on top of everything else, it's a twist within a twist.

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Yeah, who's double crossing? Who
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Paul Freeman's character actually is in on
it because they're testing the new device,

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the secret device that they were actually
testing on Daniel Craig when he was supposed

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to be testing the device that Paul
Freeman gave him. No, no,

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stop. Yeah, you're dragging yourself
into a hole of your own creation.

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You're downward spiraling so hard show with
your incomprehensible, convoluted storylines that go nowhere,

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that are now just attempting to salvage
name value of the series by still,

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you know, copying the titles of
old Vault of Horror stories. Yeah.

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Like, I've got this device and
I think it could be a real

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winner. We need to test it
out. I'll pretend to be a guy

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who lives in these steam tunnels and
we'll find a criminal who's really charming,

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and we'll go through this big charade, like what the hell are you kidding?

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No, it's very convoluted, and
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part of the episode, but that's
because he's not I mean, he's not

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given much to do, but he's
the character you see the most. It's

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because it's Daniel Craig. He's a
movie star for a reason. Like Ah,

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the sad thing about Yeah, I'm
not a huge fan of Daniel Craig,

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but I think that's because of the
most of the roles that Daniel Craig

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has played. The writing is not
great. I e. James Bond,

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but I will agree with you he's
a charismatic actor. He's more charismatic in

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this then he is in a lot
of the Bond movies, which is funny

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given how important charisma is to that
character. But that character that Bond,

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that is that Craig plays as Bond
is a charismaticalist black hole intentionally, but

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he is a charismatic actor and it
shows in this. But even his charisma

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can't save this episode. No,
nothing could save this episode. It's rotted

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from the core, which is a
dumb idea just to you know, waste

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twenty two minutes of time, like
you know that, you know it's there's

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nothing supernatural in it, which is
as anyone who's listening to the show knows.

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I prefer and that's fine. It's
not even a real love triangle.

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It's just I don't know. It's
poor. It's poor, and it's a

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story that ultimately goes nowhere. There
is no payoff, there is no you

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know, earned twist. The twist
is very lazy. It's not good.

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No, sorry England. So let's
move on to the next episode. About

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Face, the whole thing. I'm
a vampire. Ah, so she eats

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called justin king match smells Yeah,
my goold thinks I'm a vampa leather and

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me when we embraise, I said, fab old bloodsucker my right off of

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face. Yeah, thank god?
Thanking him a chat. Now, I'd

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like to play for you another little
rhythm and booze decomposition of man. It's

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about a man who's about to make
a good progression of his own and a

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nasty five finger hackxercise I call about
Faith. So About Face aired June twenty

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eighth, nineteen ninety six. It
is directed by Thomas E. Sanders.

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The screenplay is by Gilbert Adler,
Ale Katz and Larry Wilson. And the

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kind of the biggest actor of note
and this is Amelda Staunton. Yeah,

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who would go on to be Dolores
Umbridge and Harry Potter. Yeah, which

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another another Britain connection there, obviously
again with the show being filmed in England

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during the time. What did you
think of this episode? Father m On

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It's an improvement over the last one. That's not saying much. I know

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a lot of times it's all by
comparison, So if you had shown me

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this devoid of the previous one,
I'd probably mark it less. But it's

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it's okay. It feels more Tales
from the Crypt than not. But it's

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just not very good. I mean, the first of all, the makeup

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is weird. It's you know,
the makeup for this entire season has been

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off. They seem to be doing
like relying on just sort of I'm assuming

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television level makeup artists, whereas in
America it was like, you know,

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a team not necessarily run by Kevin
Yeager for every single episode. But when

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you think about makeup art like I
know who Kevin Yeager is, Like I

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couldn't tell you who did the makeup
in this like didn't stand out, you

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know, I don't know. It's
it's okay. Anna Friel is good in

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the role. She's one of those
actors who seem like they were going to

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be big for a little while.
They they they got a lot of roles

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like that. But I think the
last thing I saw her him was that

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Land of the Lost remake with Will
Farrell, which is awful. I think

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she's good, but you know,
it's okay, it's it's good. It's

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like a little bit of a shocker, I suppose, like, okay.

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This is a Haunt of Fear twenty
seven, written by Carl Wessler, drawn

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by Graham Angles. The story is
effectively the same. It doesn't sort of

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have the take on like this priest
and his wife, like that's not in

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the original comics. The original comics
just a guy and he's married to his

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wife, and she gives birth to
twins, and they tell him that one

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twin is so horrible that he should
never see it. And then and then

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a comic goes fifteen years later,
and which is just ludicrous, because how

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would you not see both of your
daughters at one time in fifteen years,

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no matter how stringent the wife is
in keeping you from them. And then

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he decides that he needs to kill
the one so that the other one can

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be happy or something. I don't
know, it's really bad. I view

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the episode as an improvement over the
last episode and as an improvement of the

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source material, but that doesn't necessarily
mean it's that great. I mean,

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what do you think, Chris,
It's bad. I mean, it's just

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not good. It's again, it's
another one of these love triangle stories with

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a twist that comes out of nowhere
that adds nothing, that ultimately makes me

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question what was the point of telling
this story if this was always going to

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be the twist? Just I'm so
sick of the twist in this show just

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not having a purpose. And then
you have these poor actors in this show,

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like Amelda Staunton, who's a great
actress, and she's just sitting here

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like looking at the screen, like
help me, I'm being held hostage.

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Yeah. I did, Like,
I mean, I like the interplay when

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the bad twin would sort of come
out and menace them, Like I thought

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that was I thought that was pretty
good. But the as he said,

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the twist is eventually just predicated on
a deformity, and like that's enough of

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a shock and is it? No? Like I'm not saying it needed to

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be more, but it kind of
needed to be more. Yeah, I

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would agree. I think I think
it needed I think it needed something.

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It needed something to offset how generic
the setup felt. Oh you have a

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sleazy priest. Man, we've never
seen that one before. Oh and he's

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you know, going around and acting
more pious than everyone else. But it

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turns out he actually has two daughters. Man, this is such a unique

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story that you're telling. Yeah,
it's really somebody who you know, wanted

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to take a jab at organized religion. And I don't have any problem with

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that as long as it's something original. And this was not exactly what you

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said, like, oh my god, this guy is actually like a licentious

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prick and he preaches the gospel.
Like how many times have we seen that,

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Like, you know, a million
times exactly. That's exactly it,

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And it just it doesn't like the
story is so not even the caliber of

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Tales from the Crypt at all at
all. It's not a it's not a

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caliber of even the like even some
of the stories that they were telling in

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season six. This is so much
more generic than the show deserves. Yeah,

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if if you know, we had
to subtitle this entire season it's these

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actors deserved better. And we've said
that for previous seasons certainly, but it's

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always on an individual basis, Like
there are highs and lows, and in

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the lows we tend to commiserate with
the actor who had to portray the part.

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But here it's like every single episode
it's like, Wow, these are

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good people, Like I'm excited to
watch them do their thing, but they're

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not given anything character wise. And
ultimately, if they were just ciphers as

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characters and the plot was interesting,
then we could root for that. But

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they kind of cut their legs out
from under them at the get go.

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What can we tell you, folks. Yeah, I think my exasperation with

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this season is I'm disappointed by the
fact that it was all true the things

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I really didn't remember about season seven
because I had seen it, I just

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didn't remember it. Man, Like, I this really is the worst season

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of the show. Yeah, it
kind of is. And without a without

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comparison, yeah, it's stultifying.
It's shocking how just kind of across the

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board. It's the most wrote tales
from the crypt stories you could imagine,

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and on top of everything else,
you have characters who are being written in

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such a way that the actors who
are portraying them are having to essentially just

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look around and ask themselves, like
why am I even doing the show?

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There? They're those the scripts are
not even giving these actors anything to do.

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Yeah, ultimately, very disappointing.
It's wild, it's it's it's wild.

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How cheap the show looks now,
it's wild. How poor the writing

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is. It's wild, how poor
the directing is, how it all looks

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like a set. It all looks
very set down now. Like, man,

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the stark contrast from season six to
seven is just it's so I didn't

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think it was going to be this
obvious, but man, it was.

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It's been obvious and just end slowly
declining. Yeah, you know, the

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first couple episodes of the season,
they were avoiding some of those pitfalls.

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They seem to be out on location
and it was interesting looking and even if

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the episode wasn't spectacular, there was
some good visuals going on. But it's

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like this slow decline where any little
joys you could snatch from some of the

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earlier parts of the season are now
stripped away entirely, and now it's everything

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I don't like about tamacrypt Like you
said, like to me, No matter

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the story if it's shot well,
I'm gonna at least derive a pleasure from

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that that it doesn't look like it's
a bunch of actors standing on a sound

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stage and it's OVERLT and you know, you get the sense when you see

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something like that that ever is just
waiting for lunch time, you know.

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And in these past few episodes and
obviously on into the future, it's been

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kind of a drag how workman like
it's been. It's funny because, like,

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you know, if the plot's not
good and it's shot well, then

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I can kind of give it a
pass. Or if it's like a really

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well written episode and the production value
ain't great, then I'll give that a

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pass. But this is this is
aiming for the first baseline. That's not

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you know, like they're not swinging
in anything here. They're just got everyone

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seems to be cashing a check.
And what's a particular drag about that is,

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you know, these are a lot
of really good actors and in some

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cases actors who hadn't yet kind of
made it, so you know, they're

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hungry for this kind of a role
where they get to like do their stuff,

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and then they're not really given anything
to do, so they just sort

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of go back into anonymity until their
big break. This could have been their

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big break had the series supported them
in a way. Oh, I completely

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agree. I mean, that's that
seems to be for me. The biggest

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kind of shape of this show is
just like how how much it is wasting

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the time of people who need this
kind of work. And like you said,

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these people are they want to be
successful, you know, I mean,

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good lord, you know Emelda Stanton, she wasn't the star that she

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was then or now she wasn't then
that she wasn't the star then that she's

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now neither with you and McGregor,
yeah, or you and McGregor, Daniel

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Craig. And it's like Jesus Christ, Steve Coogan, like Eddie is art

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is in an episode coming up like
this, you know, there's a lot

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of really good talent on the way
or you know that we had gotten but

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ill served yea, And I mean
in the new in the in the next

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episode we talk about is that the
one that has uh, it's someone that

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has Eddie Izzard and Saran hines Um
and Alan Armstrong. It's probably not gonna

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be good. You'll have to tune
in and see don't get your hope.

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So until that episode where we talk
about episode eleven and twelve, because I

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figure we leave the final episode for
its own episode, just like we left

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the first episode. It's own episode. Where can people find you, Father

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Malone? You can check me out
at father malone dot com. I got

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links there to all of the cuckoo
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drama Dark Destinations. It's a monthly
radio drama. You can also using father

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Malone dot com get to the other
podcast that Chris and I do with our

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good friend Mike White, which is
Dreams for Sale, the Twilight Zone eighty

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five podcast. And as for me, you can find me on Twitter at

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intern of the podcast, and we'll
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