WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:27.160 Hey, everybody, it's not Tuesday, but it is time for a BombCast 2 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.160 revenge it. So I'm your host, Jeff Grub. We're back for Summer 3 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.759 Game Fest. My voice is slowly coming back to me. It took it 4 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:38.320 took a little while this morning to actually get some behind these words. But 5 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.960 I'm ready and rare and to go. And I'm joined by a cast to 6 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:45.600 talk about what we played at Summer Game Fest and at least one fool to 7 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.439 ask us questions about that. Let's let's uh, let's start there, Sewn 8 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.719 Turble, Sean McDow, how's it going. Oh, it's going great, 9 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.200 Jeff. I had to do all the work of s Jeff with no the 10 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.759 benefits of being there in person with you. It was wonderful, delightful. 11 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:02.719 I love the YouTube. I'm on section right now. They're great. I'm 12 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.200 sure there was definitely a time where I was just like, ah, he's 13 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:10.480 just cleaning up mess after mess. Feel bad for Sean. Right, at 14 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:12.959 least I didn't have an illness keeping me out and shouts the back line. 15 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:19.359 Yeah, shouts Backlar who is bouncing back. Yeah, he's feeling Disneyland. 16 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:22.760 And they made a cake of me. Yes, you had a real time 17 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.079 this weekend, but real top for Mike Manati Mi Costa going. Uh, 18 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.599 it's good, it's good. Traveling does always take a lot out of me, 19 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.400 no matter how much fun I have, So it's always like just a 20 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:37.120 day where I'm just kind of zombie for a bit, but always very cozy 21 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:41.840 to be home and nfamiliar settings. My fake dog Penny is back to We 22 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:46.719 had a good reunion. Yeah, things are good, Disneyland champion Nicki Grayson, 23 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.680 how is it? Hello? Good? I saw my dog also for 24 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.359 the first time in what felt like thirty years yesterday, which was good. 25 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.400 And yeah, I'm feeling good my voice I talked so much and thanks so 26 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:04.799 much. I don't mean to be like to equate our experiences, but I 27 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.240 do think Jeff Grubb and I spoke similarly because I was really fucking floating. 28 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:15.840 Yeah, you every between every segment everything, Yes, everywhere. So my 29 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.960 voice is coming back. I'm feeling good. Yeah, tired though. And 30 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.080 Dan Reikert, hey enjoyer of Disneyland. We don't have to talk about it 31 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.879 here, but yes, we were there, had a good time. You're 32 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.039 back wheady to talk about games without caveat enjoyer of Disneyland. Yes, yes, 33 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.960 absolutely, but yeah time. Yeah, we had a pretty decent crew 34 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.280 show us around there, and we will find a spot to talk about that 35 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.120 for sure, but we have work to do. We played video games, 36 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.840 many of which were embargoed until like a couple of minutes ago, so we 37 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.479 figured we do a BombCast revengeance here on Wednesday, talk about what we saw, 38 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.560 talk about what we what we can actually talk about so far. There's 39 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:53.319 still some more stuff we'll have to get to later, but for now there's 40 00:02:53.360 --> 00:03:00.280 plenty to get into. Does anyone have any place they want to start at? 41 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:05.159 Astrobot's very good? Okay, yeah, so we played Astrobot at the 42 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:09.080 PlayStation booth at Summer Game Fest on the campus there. It was very good. 43 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:14.080 You guys want to set up the scene, the scene of like what 44 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.159 we got to play, what we got to do? The game Sony was 45 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:20.199 like one of our first appointments, right, and we go down there. 46 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.159 Yeah, and we saw they had an Astrobot and Lego Horizon, which I 47 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.840 think if you watch our coverage you know how excited we are about that. 48 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.919 Now Astrobot was like I literally told uh, it was the studio director I 49 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.879 was like, this is as good, if not better, than any Mario 50 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.000 game I've ever played, which is I don't expect him to know how much 51 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.479 I love Mario games, but I don't say that lightly. It is, 52 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.400 uh, it's exactly exactly what I wanted when I played it. Like, 53 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:47.960 Okay, VR rescue missions, like, yeah, this is really great, 54 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.159 but it's VR. It's paying the ass to put this helmet on and it's 55 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.039 pretty short. Then play room, which is like, this is fucking incredible, 56 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:58.039 but it's a you know, a little three hour experience, and this 57 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.280 would be amazing if they made like a full on, like Mario Galaxy Odyssey 58 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.120 style thing, and this is that. And like from the moment, I 59 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.840 was like at the the main screen, there's like a hub you're flying the 60 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.639 ship around, and then you fly to a planet or something, and then 61 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.360 all these levels pan out. I'm like, oh, these are all going 62 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.079 to be so much fun. And there's like there's like main levels that you 63 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.839 would see in Astros playroom, there's challenge levels, there's boss battles. I 64 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.079 think, do we all play the same thing? It was like two standard 65 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.759 levels, two challenge levels in a boss fight, Yes, that's yeah, 66 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.800 that's right, and gosh, it was just all so good. It all 67 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.399 felt so distinctive and visually interesting, mechanically interesting. You know, they're doing 68 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.680 this thing where you know, you get those kind of power up pickups, 69 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:39.839 like like a dog that's a jet pack, right, it's also yeah, 70 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:44.560 an inflatable suit, the frog, punching gloves, boxing gloves, also a 71 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.120 grappling hook and yeah, and they're all they're all so good. They all 72 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:49.879 feel great. They'll like use the haptics really well. And you know it's 73 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.360 like we had that in playroom. But in playroom when you got those things, 74 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.120 it was like that this completely changes how the game works for a bit, 75 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.199 right, Like you're in a spring body and you're using the analyst sis 76 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:00.600 and it was like kind of fun, but it was gimmicky. And here, 77 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:02.319 you know, they told me like no, like this stuff's going to 78 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.079 work more with just the normal three D platforming now. But even still, 79 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:11.240 each of those things they said two levels, you'll get both of them maybe 80 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.079 again in like a challenge room, like so two or three times, that's 81 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.519 all. Often they're introducing new things here. It's incredible. Well, there 82 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.000 was that one challenge level that reminded me of those great challenge levels in Mario 83 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:26.240 Sunshine where there's all the like spinning blocks and everything, and you get like 84 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.519 a thing you can throw and it like creates like a time bubble. So 85 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.040 it's like here's a bunch of things that are just wildly spinning or a chain 86 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.560 that's wildly flailing around, and you throw the thing and that gives you some 87 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.560 time to kind of hop over the stuff, but it's kind of a time 88 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.959 limited thing, so at any point, the stuff's going to start going fast 89 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.120 again. So you really got a book it. And I was just every 90 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:44.959 one of these levels, I was going in thinking like, oh god, 91 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.920 this is going to be like a street run level, and it's we're all 92 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.240 obsessed over there and on that I you know, I asked about that, 93 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.240 like, hey, are we getting the leaderboards again, and they said, 94 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:55.879 like at launch, it won't be right away, and then there will be 95 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.560 a free update very soon afterward that he is going to add that stuff. 96 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:00.680 That's fine. I'm going to need some time to like play through the game, 97 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.439 probably when I level I get all the bots, got to get all 98 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.959 the gotcha's and whatever, because it's so fun. Yeah, you know, 99 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.519 like you you are like rescuing the bots again, and it is a lot 100 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:14.959 of those PlayStation cameos, and it's a lot it's a lot of the ones 101 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.199 we did see in playroom, like prop of the Rapper, but then like 102 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.519 Layer level, there's Unjammer lammy okay, yeah, fun, you know, 103 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:25.279 deep cut thing, and we didn't get to go to the level, but 104 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.040 there's clearly a level on the world map after you rescue rescue Krados and his 105 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:31.560 son that is like the God of War level, right, So it is 106 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.879 still kind of like this big overall celebration of PlayStation thing that I kind of 107 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:41.800 find endearing. Well, all these levels are like linear ish in the way 108 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:43.800 that like a three D World level would be, where it's like, you 109 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.439 know, you're running around pretty space obviously, but it's you know, there's 110 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.040 a start and an end. But every single time I looked off the beaten 111 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.240 path, I was like, I wonder if maybe if I climb climb up 112 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:54.279 on that crane and go to the top of that maybe, And like I 113 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.759 was rewarded like almost every single time for exploring, whether it was a coin 114 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.360 or a collectible or a bot or something. Three D World us to get 115 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.199 an out because it is like mostly linear, but then there's like the hidden 116 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:06.120 things that are worth kind of like snooping around seeing it. Maybe you should 117 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:11.199 go left instead of right, that kind of thing. Okay, that's interesting 118 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:15.160 because you know, we use Mario's analogy just because that's what people are probably 119 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.480 gonna be most familiar with. And I was gonna ask what kind of Mario 120 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.759 would you most compare this too? And sounds like because I thought Playroom was 121 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.399 somewhat Galaxy esque, and so I was wondering where this one would land if 122 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.920 I think, yeah, I think Galaxy is is what I would compare it 123 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.879 to, because Galaxy, but with the world land, maybe it's like Galaxy 124 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.680 too, where it's like you could they just throw in so many ideas so 125 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.240 frequently that you're gonna be doing something different so often that it's like, man, 126 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.560 this just feels like a team that really had a lot of time to 127 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.040 understand what their game was, and then that gave them a million more ideas 128 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.079 and they put every single one of the best ideas into the game. Because 129 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:55.240 you think about it, like sixty four Sunshine and Odyssey, I would say, 130 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.480 are more just like here's this big sandbox, like each world is a 131 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.639 big sandbox with a bunch stuff Runner and get whereas like Galaxy Galaxy two. 132 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.959 Maybe Galaxy two is like the comparison because that has the like world map where 133 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.160 you're like going in, you're selecting the level, you have a specific objective 134 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.000 you're doing that level. But yeah, because it's a little bit more open 135 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.800 than three D world, I feel like those levels are a little bit bigger 136 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.000 an Astrobot. So I think Galaxy two is probably the comparison. Yeah, 137 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.240 gotcha. And then like you know, like is it better than Mario? 138 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.240 So hard to say. Mario is so good at certain things, like the 139 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:31.959 gap closing in Mario is always good. One thing that immediately pressed me here 140 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:35.919 was that boss fight against this giant squad because normally, like the boss fights 141 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.879 in these kind of games, you know, the boss has a pattern, 142 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.960 hit him three times, the battern slightly changes. This giant octopus was doing 143 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.840 so many different things, so many wild things are happening. You're kind of 144 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.320 constantly on your toes of figuring stuff out, and it was just this big 145 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.919 visual spectacle because it is so big. It was a really cool boss fight, 146 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.159 and we saw from that triller there's just going to be a ton of 147 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.200 those two. Yeah, and you're like yanking his head down and then you're 148 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.320 going up like you're using the frog grapple boxing glove things, so you're like 149 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.919 sank him down and his like I is just like huge and fucked up and 150 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.440 everything. You're going up to the triggers, like it just feels fucking awesome 151 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.320 to wail on this octopus. And then yeah, in between, like you 152 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.600 finished what would be like the Galaxy boss fight, you do the three hits 153 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.559 or whatever, and like Mike said, it's doing a whole different thing where 154 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.600 it's like it backs way up and then there's a whole stage between you and 155 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.440 the octopus with like tidal waves coming in, so you're doing this whole like 156 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.919 platforming sequence to get back to him and continue the boss fight. This is 157 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:33.600 fantastic. Yeah, I blew me away too. I was surprised to get 158 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.799 out of there and hear him Dan say it's as good as or better than 159 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.399 the Mario game, And I was like, cause I was like secretly shamefully 160 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.159 thinking that I was playing the game. I'm like, well, I just 161 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.480 can't be right. But then we dance, I'm like I think it might 162 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.519 be which is again, this is something holy to me, Like when I'm 163 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.039 talking about Mario, and of course everyone knows I love Astro, but it's 164 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.039 like, you know, for me with Astro Astro's playroom, it was this 165 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.279 is a very slim down, simplified experience, and they just nail everything with 166 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.120 that. So the fact that they are now building on top of all that 167 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.960 with a million new ideas, video game and everything. Yeah, and in 168 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.919 the the early blog post about it, they're like, every ten minutes you're 169 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:11.720 doing something new. In the fact, when we were playing it, it's 170 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.240 like it feels much more frequent than that, where it's like every part of 171 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.240 that is like they're like what they probably mean is they're introducing one of these 172 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.279 new power ups that that frequently, but I'm like, well, no, 173 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.039 I have this power up and now I'm doing something new with the power up 174 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.200 in those ten minutes very frequently, or just like seeing like a big pile 175 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.200 of of these balls and then running into them and watching the physics happiness I 176 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.559 knocked them down and how good that felt. Remember the magnet with all those 177 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.639 little metal things there, everyone, Yeah, that thing's awesome. And for 178 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:48.879 the record, first mainline Astro game just in case anyone was wondering, Yes, 179 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.720 yes, as they are. The second one was like a demo thing. 180 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:56.000 This is the first mainline astrogame. The Deaths are on record as saying 181 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.879 they're they're calling it Astrobot because they see it as a fresh star for what 182 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.840 the astro character is. And there, OK, I think that's probably fair 183 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.639 and probably correct. Yeah. Here, if you're watching now on the video, 184 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.399 you could see the magnet thing and it like you're just the way all 185 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.039 the little silvery pieces attract you. It feels so good. And then the 186 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.840 fact it turns to a giant ball that you can then throw it's great too. 187 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.559 It's just and also does that honestly thing where it's like you get up 188 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.080 to like some platform you think you're not allowed to then all of a sudden, 189 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.279 like coins show up like oh yeah they thought you can get here, 190 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.639 and there are little collectibles and stuff. Just absolutely my most anticipated game for 191 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.240 the rest of the year. Incredible, real quick on the like powers or 192 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.919 whatnot? Is it like a sorry I said, but is this like a 193 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.639 Mario style? You are picking up the power up in the level like a 194 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.039 flower or is a new abuild but you don't lose it like you're supposed to 195 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.639 get you and you're supposed to have it. It's basics just like Astro's play 196 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.960 room, where it's like you get the suit, you get like you walk 197 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.440 into the suit. It's like, all right, now this is the level 198 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.240 where you're doing this. It is not a missable thing. It's not like, 199 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.240 oh I didn't hit that question mark lock Now. I don't like, 200 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.279 you know, three D World, you don't have to get the cat suit, 201 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.639 you don't have to get it. But this one, it's like you're 202 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.120 getting the frog things because you're using that to kill the boss. Okay, 203 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.320 keeping with the galaxy analogy, then I feel like that's when the game like 204 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.960 very clearly wants you to get like the cloud. Uh whatever. Okay, 205 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:18.240 yeah, absolutely all right, any other final thoughts about it? I mean, 206 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.759 for real, this sounds like hyperbole, but I think it is the 207 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.039 best thing I played this year. In ye yeah, the words that y'all 208 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.000 were using in We're so glowing when you were talking about it in the car 209 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.000 with me, I I put we were at a red light on the way 210 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:41.320 back from the hotel to the studio, or from from Summer Gamesauts to the 211 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.559 studio. I put the car in park, unlocked the doors, and got 212 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.000 out of the car because I didn't want to hear you talk. It didn't 213 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:56.480 like, look are they leaving. I honestly don't think I've ever thought or 214 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.639 said on a podcast or off that I think a game is as good as 215 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.720 like a Mario like in terms of platforming. I don't know if I've ever 216 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.720 compared a game to Mario in this way, and like this straight up is 217 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.519 like I think I was saying to one of you or more that if you 218 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.919 put this and like Mario Odyssey side by side and just give it the exact 219 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.159 same skin, you know, it's just like a green character, and like 220 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.720 just the motion and what you're doing and everything, you don't even know it's 221 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.639 Mario. You don't know it's Astrobot. They looked identical. I mean, 222 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.960 I could totally see myself being like, oh, they're both great, but 223 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.480 I think I like this astro game better. Yeah, I think you're right. 224 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.320 Do we mention the developers mentioning that they really liked our reaction to it? 225 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.879 That was that was really nice? Yeahs. Reacting to the trailer was 226 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:39.519 a what do they say? Like when the studio is having like a down 227 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.679 day. They show this clip of me and you freaking out about it exactly. 228 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.720 I like hearing when teams do that, like when the FF Rebirth team 229 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.840 was like having issues and they would watch Max's reaction because they're like, look 230 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.159 a, how do you think that's what people were saying. I was telling 231 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.720 this story like you're their Maximilian dude. Yeah, yeah, I think I 232 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:03.799 might be Astro's mac dude. Yes, absolutely, all right, Okay, 233 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.200 so the other thing we did play while we were there was Lego Horizon Adventures, 234 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.200 which I thought was cute and maybe my favorite favorite Horizon game. What 235 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:15.360 of right now? You saw on your camera me coming up from behind with 236 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.960 a leafblower. I like, that's appropriate. So that's how excited I am 237 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:24.159 about Lego Horizon Adventures. It's fine. I bet if you had a kid 238 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.759 and you need a co op thing where you can be mildly doing interactive things 239 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.080 and the kids is running around life, and sure. That's the thing for 240 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.320 me is that it's I really like the humor of the Lego games and like 241 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.000 the Lego universe, like the shows they do that like, oh, here's 242 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.320 the Star Wars Lego stuff. They're very good at that, and that all 243 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.039 comes through here where it's like they're retelling the story of the Horizon games in 244 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.679 Lego and then they make jokes about it every thirty seconds, and I'm like, 245 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.919 this is the correct way for me to take down this story. And 246 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.759 then the gameplay is You're right, it's mildly interactive, but it's it's fun. 247 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.840 I suppose the way that they make it look or make it feel like 248 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.039 Horizon is you scan the environment when enemies are around, and that enables you 249 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.240 to see the weak points on the enemies, just like an horizon, and 250 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.559 then you just got to get on the right side of them, and then 251 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.519 you can like shoot your bone arrow or throw your spearit at that right part 252 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.320 of the Lego bricks to break them off, and then they break off like 253 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.360 Lego bricks. It all just makes sense when you say it out loud, 254 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.200 and it's fine when you're playing it. Yeah, and it's simplified in the 255 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.639 way that like, yeah, an actual horizon, you know, there's three 256 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.799 D space and there's a lot more motion and stuff going on like this one. 257 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.039 You said, it's you just gotta get on the right general side of 258 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.559 the thing. And you can break it off and you can like add you 259 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.919 know, fire to your arrows and things like that, Like they are doing 260 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.720 Horizon stuff in this game, but everything is just very boiled down obviously, 261 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.360 so it's very cute, and you know, like sometimes the Lego games are 262 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.200 just so simple for me in the gameplay that you know, I can't this 263 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.440 has a s a sledge. A slige isn't a word A sledge more depth 264 00:15:50.519 --> 00:16:00.679 than that, We're going to go that sledge more depth. Sorry, would 265 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.360 not have audio, so I assumed this would not have audio. There we 266 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.639 announce muted. I'm just wondering Mike sel has a slitter Head on his brain, 267 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.720 which is just the worst game names of all time. No, that 268 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.159 was Jeff's problem. I don't have that issue. He never thinks about Slitterhead. 269 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.840 I can't stop thinking about it. For me, Like, my big 270 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.600 question was, hey, how are they going to have enough content for a 271 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:25.399 Lego game, because the Lego games are always like, here's nine Star Wars 272 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.799 movies and literally a thousand characters from the Star Wars universe. Isn't that fun? 273 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.000 I'm like, yeah, that's okay. It's it's overwhelming to me, 274 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.960 but I get that that's one of the selling points of these games. Horizon 275 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.320 has two games with some DLC, right, and I guess the climbing game. 276 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.600 But still it's like that's using a lot of the same characters. So 277 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.360 what they're doing here is they're pulling from the other Lego universes. So there's 278 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.240 like Lego City Undercover characters and things like that in this game. So that's 279 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.519 where the hot dog guy comes from in that update. And it's like, 280 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.399 okay, that way, and I think, oh, go ahead, Sean, 281 00:16:55.639 --> 00:17:00.720 Oh just real quick. I think that's where Lego games like should be 282 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.039 personally, because that's how you play a Legos like when your kid or whatever. 283 00:17:03.079 --> 00:17:06.960 You just combine all the stuff that you don't care exactly, so like 284 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.319 you know, they use their like oh ces or whatever, but yeah, 285 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.319 just toss them all in there. Whatever that's your humor. Yep, Yeah, 286 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.599 I think I think the thing that is like so valuable about these games, 287 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:21.000 as much as we like to dunk on perhaps the horizonness of it, 288 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:25.480 is that like all these mechanics that y'all were talking about earlier, like the 289 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:32.039 modification of your weapons and the paying attention to the weak spots if you're nine, 290 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.599 right, Horizon too big of a video game for you? Yes, 291 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:40.000 right, actually yes, yeah, but like a lego game where it is 292 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.559 it is not spoon feeding is like is too derogatory of a of a term, 293 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.960 I think, But it is like simplifying and pairing down these these mechanics 294 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:53.119 to their barest bones so that you can master them, so that you can 295 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.880 then take it. Like a kid who was playing this game at nine or 296 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:03.480 ten years old will be much better equipped moving forward to hop into perhaps Horizon 297 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:08.160 three when they are thirteen or fourteen. Yeah, yeap, whenever by the 298 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.519 time that game comes out, right, So like it is instructional in that 299 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.319 way, and I think that, like that's it's helpful. Yeah, And 300 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.839 I think that's what I'm realizing now. So like there are there are gonna 301 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.640 be a lot of houses with PlayStations and kids who have seen those games and 302 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:25.720 had some curiosity about curiosity about them, and this will enable them to engage 303 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.359 with that. And also, yeah, it looks really nice these lego games. 304 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.920 Yeah, it looks pretty Yeah, That's what I was gonna say about 305 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.319 Astro. Like I think that there is like truly such an advantage that you 306 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.640 have when you make the hardware to make the video game. Yep, right, 307 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:45.160 so I think it's I'm excited about both of them. Actually, all 308 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:48.799 right, I think maybe we should talk about Monster Hunter next. Oh yes, 309 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.480 yes, I got to see the Uh it was just kind of gameplay 310 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.960 played for me, so, you know, a hands off demo. I 311 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:02.119 got to see a good chuck of it though, and it is looking good. 312 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.039 That is fair. I mean, it is just kind of like that 313 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:10.160 next evolution of both World and Wild's right in terms of it, you know, 314 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.759 being like the big open, kind of next gen looking thing. You 315 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:17.839 still have those nice quality of life features from Wild, including the mounts that 316 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.000 is now more of a lizard and it can kind of float and stuff. 317 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.359 But the big deal here is how much more seamless the camp stuff and the 318 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:29.240 like mission stuff is. You now just kind of leave the camp and then 319 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.680 you go out you start hunting right away. Even when you finish your hunt. 320 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.000 It's not just like, Okay, now you're gonna be teleported back to 321 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:37.440 your you know, the camp. Now you can go there when you want 322 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:38.279 to. You can stay out in the field if you want to just do 323 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.920 another mission or hunt some more monsters or whatever. But you know it just 324 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.599 you know, the monster stuff just looks so impressive still. So like the 325 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:49.400 last couple of games have had different themings, right, Like Wild was a 326 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:53.359 bit more Japanese. World was kind of like that, you know, Age 327 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:57.640 of Exploration, this, you know Age of Discovery stuff, and this this 328 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:03.039 has maybe a bit more of a Arabian or Mediterranean flare to it, I'm 329 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.799 exactly sure, but you know, lots of sand dunes and oasises and things 330 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.279 like that, so you know they're doing a thing where they're hunting this monster 331 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.240 running across a sand dune, and then all of a sudden, like another 332 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.799 monster pops up from the sand and like wraps around the monster, and then 333 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:22.119 they start fighting, and then a sandstorm rolls in, and all of a 334 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.160 sudden, you're in the sandstorm and it looks like that scene from Mad Max 335 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.640 Fury Road with lightning coming down and you're dodging the lightning and the lightning's hitting 336 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.079 the monster sometimes and you're still fighting it, and you have like your one 337 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.000 giants or weapon, but if you go on your mount, you can switch 338 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.359 to your other weapon, and now you have kind of two loadouts you have 339 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:45.839 access to just insanely impressive looking stuff. Like I've been getting more and more 340 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.200 into Monster Hunter each time they release one of these new ones since World, 341 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.920 and like, looking at this, I'm like, this is the one. 342 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.799 I'm like, maybe going to lose a ton of time to it looks very 343 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.119 impressive. Yeah, I think every time I talk to someone about this and 344 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.720 everyone got hands off, I believe I don't know if anyone played the game. 345 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.079 I don't think anyone played it right that there was like some stuff in 346 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.359 the past where like at Judge's Week at Summer Game Test, people like, 347 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:08.240 yeah, maybe get your hands on it. But I don't think that happened 348 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:14.400 here. But this is the game that so many people were buzzing about, 349 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.240 and Monster Uner fans and kind of monster even people who aren't like super into 350 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.720 the series alike, we're both like, this just looks fantastic. Yeah, 351 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.119 it's got my eye as like someone who World is the only one I played 352 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.079 a lot of and that did feel kind of approachable. And yeah, I 353 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.880 had my problems with like co Op being difficult to get into, and but 354 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:36.759 you know, ultimately I was into that one. Do you think that this 355 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:37.960 could be for me if I skipped the Rise, and I'm not a big 356 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.559 serious fan in general. Yeah, this is definitely in some ways it kind 357 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.319 of is Monster Hunter World two. Really again, it brings in like some 358 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.359 of that stuff from Rise, but yeah, it's just the next one with 359 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.880 all stuff that made that great and a lot of their smart choices. I 360 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.480 don't know how much better that kind of coup experience is going to be for 361 00:21:55.519 --> 00:22:00.839 people who find the kind of current system somewhat abrasive, just the weird shit 362 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.640 where it's like, oh, you have seen this cut scene. I have 363 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:07.480 not, and like you know, just complicated, like how to even play 364 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:08.880 it is the thing that I like, and everybody in my group was always 365 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.480 confused, So like, I just want that to be a normal co op 366 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.240 game where people can just jump in and play. Yeah, Monster Hunter is 367 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:21.160 a weird one because ultimately the multiplayer has always just been basically like MMO raids, 368 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.000 where you don't really do the story of an MMO with your friends, 369 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:26.880 you do raids after you're done with like the main story quest. That's kind 370 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.240 of what Master Hunter multiplayer is. I would like to see if they just 371 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.799 make it super easy to do a co op campaign with your friends and that 372 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.160 syncs up and everything if they're tying everything into the capcom ID because they have 373 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.279 cross play now and everything. You know, first for a series, I'd 374 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.720 like to think that they would have thought that through a little bit more, 375 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.000 but I guess we'll have to see. I do know that the entries keep 376 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.880 getting more accessible, though, and that's great to see as someone who has 377 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.359 dabbled in the series. Sense three, I put in like a lot of 378 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.799 ours with a four ultimate on the three DS because that's when I was, 379 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:00.440 you know, sort of at the end of my college year there, and 380 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.559 so that was a great time to play with friends. But I haven't been 381 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:08.279 hooked by the series since then, you know, for the two entries and 382 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:12.359 major expansions that have come out. And I think this looks great. I 383 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.839 love how much more interaction there is with the environment in every single game, 384 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.559 and they become so much more cinematic. And that's you can see that even 385 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.000 just by the fact that, as far as we can tell, your player 386 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.720 character is actively involved in the story as like a speaking character and everything. 387 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.559 WHOA so that you know, that's like it. You go from just like 388 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.759 you know, the again the MMO, you know, just like nodding or 389 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.559 like just like grunting along with everything to actually being a part of the story. 390 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.599 And then you have like Mike was matching the turf wars between the Masters, 391 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.400 combined with apparently now more weather effects and everything. I think this looks 392 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:55.240 great. I'm really excited to see how it turns out. I played Battle 393 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.799 Aces, which is that it's you know, Dave Cam's game, who used 394 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:03.200 to work on Star StarCraft AFT and you know Dave or David ashks me. 395 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.200 We're on our couch talking about it last couple of years. Eat trailer, 396 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:08.240 great trailer for like the cinematic stuff, and then I got a chance to 397 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.519 actually get the hands with the gameplay, and I thought they did a good 398 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.079 job sort of capturing the energy of that trailer in the actual combat. A 399 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.440 lot of that comes down to the attack effects having really kind of an anime 400 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.480 look to them. But whatever, when you're playing it, it's it is 401 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.920 what they say. It is a very easy to parse, a real time 402 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.960 strategy game that you could tell is going to have very fast matches. There 403 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.839 is a ten minute timer, so whoever wins at the end of whoever has 404 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.200 the highest score at the end of ten minutes, which you'll get a warning 405 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.119 that at about two minutes about who's in the lead, and then one minute 406 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:42.359 there'll be even more information. But so it's like it'll never go longer than 407 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.720 ten minutes. But I get the sense that a lot of these times it's 408 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.039 gonna end in five or six minutes because all you gotta do is like beat 409 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.279 the other defeat the other person's sort of mainspire, and it's really excellent and 410 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:57.119 enabling you to like understand how to move the enemies, get behind enemy lines, 411 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.519 and make sure you have all the information you need to like stay in 412 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.279 the game. And I'm like, oh, I think this is going to 413 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.920 be one that really wins me over. I'm very curious because I've wanted RTS 414 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.279 to kind of come back in the way I remember it, which is it 415 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:11.839 was just command and conquer. I basically just want more command and conquer, 416 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.160 and like the way I always played that was, you know, very elaborate 417 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.559 base building with like rules where it's like, okay, we get thirty minutes 418 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.920 to build the base before we can start attacking, you know, like agreements 419 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.559 opposite of that, right, And so that's why I'm like, part of 420 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:27.240 me is like, oh, I want to play this, it looks like 421 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.359 an RTS and then part of it is like, oh, but you know, 422 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.079 I always hated it when people would like Rush online and stuff like that, 423 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.920 so like in like unit management and army management stuff. So like, 424 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.519 I'm curious, but we'll see if it's what I'm looking for. Yeah. 425 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.400 Sure, there's definitely a bunch of these RTS games that are coming out and 426 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:47.000 trying to hit a different play styles. There's others that are going to have 427 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:48.880 much more emphasis on the base building still, but this one's all about, 428 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.880 like you have your workers, they sort of are are automated, and they 429 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.680 they just happen whenever you build one of these structures to build like you know, 430 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.400 the air units or something like that, and you have to protect them 431 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:00.640 still and you have to be mindful of them still, but you're not really 432 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.920 micromanaging that. It is all about coming up with strategies and executing on it. 433 00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.720 You know. Ash would keep saying the NBA jam of RTS games, 434 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.599 and I definitely I get that sense when I was playing it. You know, 435 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.640 part of it was okay, you know, I just got to learn 436 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.319 the hot keys about how to control stuff. But once I was getting the 437 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:22.839 hang of that, and it's very easy to realize the possibilities there. All 438 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.079 right, uh, let's go with uh, let's actually mike Le's go back 439 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.160 you with the Dragon Age. Yeah, that's another one that I just saw 440 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.880 a hands off demo LP. But this was a whole kind of the first 441 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.519 hour of the game. It was one I'm glad I saw because I, 442 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:42.440 like a lot of people, I did not like that CG trailer was real 443 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:48.079 weird vibe. It was very you know, kind of jokey and silly. 444 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.559 It was stylized in a weird way that didn't really look like Dragon Age to 445 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.160 me. Then like this at the actual game, Yeah, there's still a 446 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.160 little bit of that irreverent humor, but mostly like, yeah, because Verrek's 447 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.559 talking, he's always been that way, Or is the thing where your character 448 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.400 has three, you know, choices of dialogue and one of them is like 449 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.200 that, but otherwise, you know, the game is taking itself seriously when 450 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.240 it needs to, And it just kind of felt like the tone of Inquisition 451 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.319 for the most part. And it looks very good, like it still was 452 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.240 like colorful in a way that pops, but it didn't kind of have that 453 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.359 smidge of a Fortnight. Look, I want to say that maybe that the 454 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:27.559 teaser trailer had for me, for whatever reason, very graphically impressive, was 455 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:34.119 running really well, very high detailed environments, good character animation. So just 456 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.799 in general I thought that the actual gameplay was very impressive. Here it's still 457 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.039 like a little bit of that, I want to say problem, But like 458 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.680 that direction of Dragon Age that as somebody who did prefer when Origin was very 459 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.359 like computer RPG, you know, invisible dice rolls and things like that, 460 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.559 this is like acquisition, you know, basically. Actually, that's what a 461 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.480 lot of people are saying. It look to them, it looks like it 462 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.400 looks like one. Well, it's like when they switched you know, mass 463 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.440 Effect one to mass Effect too, right, and it's suddenly mass Effect was 464 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.079 mostly just a third person shooter with cool down abilities. That's what they did 465 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.599 starting with Dragon H two, and that's been the direction since then. It's 466 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:17.920 a little weirder now and maybe this post boulders Gate three world where a game 467 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.599 did go back to just being like we're going to be pretty old school actually 468 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.680 and it is going to feel a lot more like a more traditional RPG, 469 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.759 and everybody liked that, and now this game is once again just like you 470 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.920 know, push a tack button, maybe dodge things and then use your cool 471 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.680 downs. Now, there might be more to it, because again this is 472 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.799 very early on, so basically we're running through this whole hour demo and the 473 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.000 guy has one ability, right, so there wasn't necessarily a whole lot definitely 474 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.799 could see. But even still, just from what I remember of Inquisition, 475 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.319 I'm not sure if I'm expecting it to get super intensely interesting on the combat 476 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.440 side, at least for me, but in terms of being this very slick, 477 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.880 story driven dragon Age adventure, and again it is very much the story 478 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:02.240 everybody wanted, right with souls that character from the last game and what's up 479 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.799 to right and jumping right into that. Yeah, yeah, so we saw 480 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.839 it going on there. Yeah, I as somebody who did not like that 481 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.839 CEG trailer and was a little maybe worried. Not a giant dragon Age fan, 482 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.359 but I would like to play good dragon Age. This is looking very 483 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.720 spiffy. Indeed, Yeah, I'm I'm seeing a lot of reactions. I 484 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.839 think fans are worried, But every preview for the most part, for the 485 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.799 most part, has been like this looked way better than it did in that 486 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.279 revealed trailer. So yeah, the charge should have just been shots from this. 487 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:37.359 That trailer was just so freaking weird and clearly driven by people with different 488 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.440 goals. I what is it? I don't know we were there any conversations 489 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:47.880 or did you hear anything about like choices from da I coming over? It's 490 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.359 like for me, I played and beat Inquisition but gotten to my head, 491 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:57.000 could not tell you a single fucking thing that happened in it. And I, 492 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.880 even when I was playing, I didn't really realize that there was like 493 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.480 a continuity. I didn't because that was my first Dragon Age game. Or 494 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.000 is there any discussion about like what they were. I'm sure the answer is 495 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.079 no, But any conversation about it was in front of me. But I've 496 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.319 seen people online talking about that and somebody somebody has asked about them. There's 497 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.519 some kind of answer there. I don't know exactly what it is. You 498 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.920 know, but in the past Dragon Age games, there has been thinking like 499 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.799 go to a website and say if this character died or not, And usually 500 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.160 all that means is like at some point that character will show up for a 501 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.599 cameo or not. I think largely the experience will be pretty much the same 502 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.000 for you, like you know, and it probably goes back to that last 503 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:37.920 game again, like guess somebody played Dragon Age origins. I'm like, oh, 504 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.759 it's like, is anybody from that game gonna show up? Yeah, 505 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.440 they'd probably give me like side eye and tell me all right, Uh, 506 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.319 let's see, let's do monkey ball. Yeah that was a lot of fun. 507 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.119 I was watching monkey ball with a live audience cheer and that was fun. 508 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.440 Yeah. That was to watch Dan play monkey ball. Banana Rumble is 509 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.519 that name, And we were cheering him on as he was like trying to 510 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.640 do speed running tactics right there at the demo booth. Yeah we found some 511 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.279 yeah I guess doing skip Yeah you did skips. Yeah, absolutely, you 512 00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:14.720 got set some world records I believe. Uh it looked fun. How did 513 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.559 it feel? Felt great? Uh? Six inches from a screen, it 514 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:25.079 looks straight up right there. I probably felt woozy. Yeah I was. 515 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.960 I was, And I think it was like a later night the night before, 516 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.279 so it was it was quite a way to play monkey ball. But 517 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.079 no, it's it's just straight up monkey ball. It's everything I always wanted 518 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.240 about monkeyball, you know, like one and two for gamecubeer still my like 519 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.000 Go Tos despite all the like remakes and you know they tried to do that 520 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.720 adventure game and all that stuff and you know the we motion. What's like, 521 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.559 No, this is just classic ass. Monkey Ball has a ton of 522 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.039 multiplayer things that are all online, uh or I think most of them are 523 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:49.240 online with some of right, like sixteen players, I want to say, 524 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.039 with like a FULLD Mario Kart mode and like these Banana Hunt modes and all 525 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.480 this stuff, and uh, it's I mean it's straight up a monkey ball 526 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.079 game. It's you get a fun store or you can buy stuff. I 527 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.519 think I could probably give my monkey the Jeff Grub Disneyland outfit. You probably 528 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.599 you got your Alan Grant hat and Hawaiian Sure that'd be a good one. 529 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:12.519 Good And then uh god, what else was? There was a spin dash? 530 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.519 The added like a spin dash right? Yeah, you know Sonic is 531 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.799 in Ye Sons against the Yeah cure you. I believe it's one of the 532 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.160 characters you can put a ball, yeah, like the last one. Yeah. 533 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:27.200 Uh, spin dash is very much it seems like it changes how things 534 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.599 would work. Is that does that make you worry about complexity or whatever? 535 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.839 Because I got to play this one too a bit. I think I don't 536 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.400 know if there's too many times where you would need to use it. It 537 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.440 almost seems best for almost kind of like those skips, right because it's like, 538 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.559 oh, here's a little ramp here that I can now turn into a 539 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.799 big ramp if he's my dash at the right moment, you know what. 540 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:46.559 It kind of reminds me of. It's like if you're racing on Rainbow Road 541 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.200 and you have a mushroom. It's like, yeah, it's there, but 542 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.799 it's risky, you know, like there's no edges to this, like you're 543 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.759 gonna fly off. I'm sure for like Speed Run people, they're gonna go 544 00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.160 nuts with it, But I'm playing it. I I it doesn't seem like 545 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.160 a thing where it's like some of those games added a jump button or and 546 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.359 things like that that kind of change the base experience. This just seems like 547 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.359 a little addition. But I don't know. I was only able to play, 548 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.759 you know, like one of the worlds. I think it did just 549 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.720 hit me like what is spin dashing in monkey Ball? Like literally what does 550 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.960 that look like? Do you have to be a full stop? And then 551 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.599 you just like it's not. It's not like Sonic style where you like stop 552 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.759 and spin up it just to kind of hold in b and it charges it 553 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.440 and you let go to boost forward, but like you're still moving. It 554 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.400 doesn't inhibit your normal motion. You know. So is this kind of like 555 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.279 I'm trying to picture. Is it sort of like if you're playing like a 556 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.759 pool and like you know, you you hit the ball with the stick, 557 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.519 and it's like you can do that anytime and sort of just like change your 558 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.839 trajectory. You talk about like putting English on it, Like no, and 559 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.720 it's not like a curvature thing. It's not what I'm saying, like like 560 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.440 you're moving like like this way, Like if you like aim the other way 561 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.880 with the spin dash, can you like instantly move in that direction? A 562 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.359 great question if it like totally stops you like some games where it's like like 563 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.599 like Mario Otyssey where you could jump and then you could like jump on the 564 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.000 half didn't get work in the air. I think so, like it's pretty 565 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.840 cool, it's pretty versatile. I think you can also basically use it whenever 566 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.119 you get you know whatever a little bit when it goes out in front of 567 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.760 them, that's them using the spindash. Sorry my go ahead, right, 568 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:15.559 No, but that's like, you know, that's how it works, right, 569 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.599 It's so it's it's always pointing in the direction that you're already tilting anyways, 570 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.800 right, so I could do things like help you maybe get to a 571 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.320 complete stop faster and even give the first momentum, right, yeah, interesting, 572 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.000 Okay, yeah, it's I mean, it seemed like a nice addition. 573 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.239 It didn't seem like something that changed the experience for me. So yeah, 574 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.800 I'm definitely excited for that when I think it comes out soon, righteah, 575 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.079 pretty yeah, pretty soon, like first or twenty fifth something like that. 576 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.480 Yeah, oh, I hope there's later boards on that. There are 577 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.280 definitely leaderboards boards on Lucky Ball, and uh yeah, I was already thinking, 578 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.639 like, okay, on this level, I'm just gonna play this one 579 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.440 hundred times to try to get in four seconds instead. Yep, this is 580 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.159 coming out on like everything, right, because I had to play the Switch 581 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.960 version, which for like that main mode was fined, but they made play 582 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.000 the multiplayer stuff with sixteen characters on the Switch version, and that was looking 583 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.760 a little rough. Yes, I mean even main mode was kind of chugging 584 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.480 frame, which makes me, wonder, wait, if we're doing leaderboard stuff, 585 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.199 what if people want to play it on here? I kind of want 586 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.559 to play on PC, so I play on deck. Yeah yeah, okay, 587 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:20.000 I'm trying to only has A listed as switched. Okay, Mike's wrong. 588 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:27.119 I mean I literally asked, is it yeah? Right question? Yeah? 589 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.000 Yeah? The official Twitter says it releases on Nintendo Switch. Yeah yeah, 590 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.920 dang, all right, Well, I mean, listen, it worked 591 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.079 good enough from what I saw. You saw your planet, but you're right 592 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.559 that there was. I was like, oh, this looks a bit chunky, 593 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:45.760 and it looks a bit pixelated a little bit, but whatever. We're 594 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.679 also looking at a giant screen from directly playing. Yes, I did have 595 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.239 that thought too, like it's hugging a bit, so hope for the best, 596 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.639 but the very least. It felt good, right, It felt like 597 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.920 a monkey Ball? Yes, yeah, straight up what I want in my 598 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.880 mind? They made one than two than this. Okay, it's hard to 599 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.239 tell sometimes because like Monkeyball freaks because I liked those remakes or whatever they did 600 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.760 like last time a lot, and now people like they've changed the way monkey 601 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.280 Ball feels. I was like, oh, they yes, of course they 602 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.719 did. I notice that for sure, Uh, Mike, let's do some 603 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:21.599 of the other Sega stuff, Sonic Cross Shadow Generations, the Year of Shadows 604 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:25.079 here they ran out of shadow shakes. So really it was a terrible summer 605 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:30.280 game fest. But how is the game? It's good, you know. 606 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.360 Song Generation is definitely one of the better song games from that era. I 607 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.079 maybe don't love it as much as some people, but it's a fun one 608 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.199 to play through. The shadow stuff is pretty you know, uh, it's 609 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:45.079 interesting, and it is it's it's almost it's a good amount of things. 610 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.719 There's completely new levels, and even though he plays pretty similar to the Sonic 611 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.280 style here with the boost mechanic and whatnot, there's something about it that does 612 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.880 feel a bit more like how the Sonic Adventure games played. There's a it's 613 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.519 a bit less just constant boosting, less of those two D segments that they 614 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.840 throw into the three D Sonic levels all the time. And it's somebody who 615 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.440 like did play Sogo Youre one and two a lot. I kind of prefer 616 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:14.519 that feel for three D Sonic as opposed to the kind of Sonic Unleashed or 617 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.000 Sonic Colors boost style. So that was fun to see. Still a little 618 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.880 bit of that Sonic jank here, and there still was a boss battle. 619 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.079 Then again, I don't know why these three D Sonic games don't ever have 620 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.559 great boss battles, but you know, it was, it was. It 621 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.559 was fine. No. I specifically asked, was gonna have a gun this 622 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.920 time? So NA not this time? Yeah? Who was? I think 623 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.679 VGC might've got the headline of like, well, why isn't Shall have a 624 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.719 gun and one of the creators is like, show doesn't need a gun anymore. 625 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:50.000 He is a weapon. Yeah, registered weapon in fifty States. Yeah, 626 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:52.880 this is neat. This is even more neat than what they do a 627 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.239 Sonic Colors Ultimate, because you know, it is that remaster, but like 628 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.719 this Shadow stuff, you know, it's it's meaty, there's something there. 629 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:01.920 It is, like, yeah, I don't know how long it'll be, 630 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.119 but it's very distinct. I was gonna ask because it looks like there's a 631 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.199 good amount of content here, Like people are compared something they just didn't really 632 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.480 even talk about until people got their hands on preview stuff and like read the 633 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:21.880 website and stuff like in Song Generations, there is a two D like level 634 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.639 select quote unquote Overworld Shadows is actually like it's in the same visual style, 635 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.920 but it is like a Sonic Frontiers zone. It's like it looks like this 636 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.920 pretty big thing they can like go around and like go into levels and everything, 637 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:37.360 and then of course he has all of his own levels and everything. 638 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.719 It does seem like they're adding a lot of content to the game. And 639 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.719 you know, as the other big Sonic fan around here, Generations is easily 640 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.800 my favorite song game of the modern era, So I'm really looking forward to 641 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.480 going back and playing all the old stuff as well as just getting new content 642 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.079 within this game that I already love. That's really awesome. And Mike mentioned 643 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.679 the level design being a little more interesting than Generations has and already see that 644 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:07.159 specifically, it looks like the level structure of Sonic Heroes, a little bit 645 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.360 more so in that adventure vein, but like basically being linear. But also 646 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.800 there's a path up here if you do something just right, just like I 647 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.679 like that. Yeah, like you see, like, oh there's a platform 648 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.960 up there, how do I get there? Oh there's a ring trail. 649 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.199 Okay, it was a little hit in mind. Get that ring trail and 650 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.000 like get up there and then go down a different path. So it looks, 651 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.679 and they said that it is a lot of the original team working on 652 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.760 this and what like the director of the game is director of Generations back in 653 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.440 the day, So it seems like they are just expanding on this game that 654 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.280 you know, I think this Generations is a song game where we can all 655 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.679 agree, Yeah, that one was pretty good, right, even if you 656 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.639 don't like Sonic, that's the one that people point to. So I think 657 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.480 it's very smart of them to just expand on that one as this like anniversary 658 00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.800 edition style thing, just to like help me with this game. So it 659 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.880 is a remake, but the shadow stuff is all new, that's what you're 660 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.480 saying. Yes, yes, okay, so yeah, remaster and then the 661 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:08.239 shadow stuff is like a new bonus campaign's it's the Bowser's Fury of the Do 662 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.159 you think that's the appropriate of comparison? Okay, Okay, very cool that 663 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.840 that that's pretty neat. I'm glad. And I like what you said about 664 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.079 like being able to find the high part of the level because that is my 665 00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.239 favorite stuff to do in Sonic, And again that sort of focuses on that 666 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.000 would be interesting to me at the very least. And I thought I was 667 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:27.360 watching Iron play. I was watching over his shoulder while Dan was playing monkey 668 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.360 ball. I kept asking, so I'm like, what do you think He's 669 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.159 like, I'm gotta be honest, I'm being entertained. I find it entertaining, 670 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:40.719 and I think that is the meaty spot for Sonic is the Sonic conversation 671 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.559 on Giant. It's happening. Just be entertaining. If your Sonic just be 672 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.280 entertaining, it's fine. Let's boil it down. This is an AARB question. 673 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.480 Every one of us. Are you pro or anti Sonic. I'm gonna 674 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:59.199 say pro. No elaboration, you have to say pro or anti. I 675 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.760 am pro Sonic. I guess. I guess I'm anti Sonic. I guess 676 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.079 no, don't say, I don't say. I guess say I am blank, 677 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.639 So I am anti Sonic. Jeff, Mike Manati pro Sonic, Say 678 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:19.199 I am? I am pro Sonic. Nikki, I am the vegetables that 679 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.920 are sorry. I was trying to record it and I actually Sonics not a 680 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:30.079 vegetable. Sean, I am pro sonic, Dan soundboard, we have one 681 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.480 anti Sonic and listen. If I could elaborate, I would be like, 682 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.119 nope, nope, that's not part of the deal, all right, move 683 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.880 on, Sonic Meania, all right, metaphort Reefantasia. Let's for the shout 684 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.559 the Sega section. Uh yeah, just another one that me and Jam kept 685 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.920 glancing over at. And I'm like that UX is very good. And then 686 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.239 I couldn't tell anything else that was going on. Mike, you got to 687 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.679 play it? How was it? I got to play maybe forty five minutes 688 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.559 of this at various stages in the game, kind of a beginning section, 689 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.000 a intersection, and something a bit more deeper into the game, like a 690 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.559 boss battle. Oh. I'm like, you know, I love those persona 691 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.639 games, and I was excited for this. It's like, okay, Fantasy 692 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.440 Persona. What I love is like it is that in the best way possible, 693 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.559 is in terms of just being super slick, right, like things like 694 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.960 the transition from the field into a battle and those UI and UX elements, 695 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.199 and like the music just being incredible all the battle song, so guy, 696 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.360 I kind of just sat there and had to listen to that, But also 697 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.480 like does feel like its own thing in interesting ways, like the battlesystem here, 698 00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:37.280 you know, you do have like that, Oh, if you exploit 699 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.760 an enemy weakness, you get like you know, one more turn, but 700 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.039 that way that works is differently. There are like all the all the you 701 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:46.159 know, your team takes a turn, then the enemies take a turn. 702 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.760 You kind of have points for your turns, but you can use those points 703 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.559 maybe do a team up attack that costs two points instead, and what team 704 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:58.880 up tacks you have depends on your party. Composition doesn't mean characters because there's 705 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.639 like a job system so and I love job systems. So you could take 706 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.000 this person, they're going to maybe be a mage, and that's going to 707 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.599 give them different abilities. If you have a mage in this other class, 708 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.360 then that's going to give you access again to other abilities. So just the 709 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.800 composition details there seem very exciting. And then the world looks all kinds of 710 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.559 fucked us right, like you know, right, you're in this fancy place 711 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:23.920 and it's like, oh, look at this. This is a fantasy book 712 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:27.679 and it's just like a picture of Tokyo or something. Oh, and then 713 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.239 you come across like the first growthesque monster. Somebody's like these things are called 714 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:37.400 humans. It's like, uh, what's going on here? Ah? So 715 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.039 just it's gonna be fun to see where all that goes. All the characters 716 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:44.119 already look appealing. There's like a mouse sky with a very deep voice, 717 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:49.079 and I love him a lot. Like when he has like his like mage 718 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.360 job that he had, he's like think, I know nothing of spells, 719 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.599 do you or something like that. I'm like, oh, excellent delivery, 720 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:02.760 very much into that. Yeah, this really impressed me. I am I 721 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.760 was excited for this. After playing it, I am very excited for metaphor. 722 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.840 They seem like they're doing an amazing job here. Oh. Like a 723 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.000 really cool detailed detail is when you're running around the field, if you're like 724 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.800 a counter a weak enemy, you kind of have like light attacks you can 725 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.000 do in the field. And in a persona game, it'd be like, 726 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.920 oh, hit somebody of an attack so you get advantage, right, so 727 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.239 you get to attack first in the random batle or whatever. Here, if 728 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.880 an enemy is weak enough, you can just actually kind of hack and slash 729 00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.639 them, like it's like a standard action game. And then for the bigger 730 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.239 enemies, if you kind of hack and slash a bar away, that's how 731 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:37.920 you get advantage. And in the meantime, you still have the dodge attacks 732 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.079 because if they hit you back then they're going to get advantage. So there 733 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.599 is like a little bit of that real time action combat scenario there in between 734 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:50.559 the turn based battles. It's just, I don't know, it's switches things 735 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.719 up a little bit in a very pleasant way. Okay, I'm I'm interested 736 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.199 in so much of this because I'm really really looking forward to this game as 737 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:04.960 a big persona guy, and someone who SMT has never really appealed to me. 738 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:10.119 I'm not mistaken. Yeah, the SMT five embargo lifted earlier this morning, 739 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.519 and I have nothing to say about it, unfortunately, because I still 740 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:19.519 can't bring to play SMT five. I want to, but between being busy 741 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.199 and then just thinking to myself, it's SMT five it you know, it 742 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:27.039 never really appealed to me in the first place. I really want to give 743 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.559 it a shot. It's just Lexi said when she was on the couch, 744 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.320 she was like, it's very brutal, and that's always been like a sticking 745 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.920 point is like it's hard to get into those games. This seems like they 746 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.000 very much are playing to the persona crowd with how much more colorful it is 747 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:47.440 and how character driven too. Yeah, character driven are things structured in a 748 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.119 more similar way when it comes to the combat, because that's something that actually 749 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.239 interests me. Mike, I want you to correct me on this because the 750 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.280 way I tried to explain to my friend who's also into Persona but not SMT 751 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:05.440 said, it seems like, based on the trailer or the livestream they did 752 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.360 a couple of weeks ago, it seems like you can, yeah, like 753 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:12.679 wipe out small mobs on the map action RPG style, But then if you 754 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.920 want to engage in like a tougher enemy or a boss fight what have you, 755 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.039 you like switch into the traditional persona style and that's when you do a 756 00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.159 tactical style. Yeah, but again it's like even then, you can still 757 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.559 hack and slash them because they have like a bar, and if you hack 758 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.599 and slash the bar to a certain point, then you push the button to 759 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:37.880 activate the the actual in turn based battle, you have advantage that element there 760 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:43.480 almost like a stagger gauge on the overworld, where once you hit a certain 761 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:47.719 point then you can engage in the turn base. It's the poken tournament of 762 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.599 rg's Gotta Gotta Yeah, Or if you don't want to do it, you 763 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.639 can just go up there and push a button and just turn it into the 764 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.320 turn based battle. All right, well I just won't give you like the 765 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.840 they'll give you back right exactly. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like 766 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.199 in Person of three reloaded, all you do is like you steak up and 767 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.639 you just hit them with the sword and that that's advantage. Though it's a 768 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.400 bit more complicated here. I think that's a very very interesting approach. And 769 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.159 he said everything everyone said, I'm just even more excited for this now. 770 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.119 It was very, very very slick. Yeah, it's just somebody who like 771 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.119 maybe at one point is like, oh I kind of wish I just went 772 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.079 strike to PERSONA six instead of doing this. No. I am super sold 773 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.840 on what they are doing with this game. From what I played, I 774 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:30.719 have a filing. I'm going to love it. Uh, Nikki, I 775 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:37.920 believe you played hyper Light Breaker. I did. I had a freaking blast 776 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.039 with this. Your big your big hyper Light Drifter, right, that's the 777 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.079 first one your mark for that. Well, so I like the way that 778 00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:47.000 game works. That's where I'm I played ten minutes of it and was like, 779 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:53.679 I don't think this is to me, but like looking at that game 780 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.039 really like I fell in love with the way it looked. And then when 781 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.000 they announced this game, it was like, Oh, actually, the format 782 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.960 of this kind of seems more enthralling to me. It's a third person character 783 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:13.280 action ish rogue light a roguelike. And the thing about this game is that 784 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:20.440 every run, it procedurally generates the chunks of the map and then there are 785 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.440 a handful of different biomes that are all smushed together. You have little sub 786 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.719 objectives. There's there's secrets all over the map. There's these sub objectives. 787 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.400 You have to beat these mini bosses to get keys, and those keys and 788 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.800 lock the door to the bigger bosses. You beat those bigger bosses and that's 789 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.199 how you end the run. There's a bunch of different weapons that are all 790 00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.920 randomly generated. Run to run. The way it feels is really good. 791 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:52.519 The the weapon diversity is really cool. There was a pistol, there were 792 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.840 snipe rivals, there was an assault rifle, esch gun. One thing that 793 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.039 I when I started the demo, it definitely was like, Oh, I 794 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.880 have a gun. How cool. BBB, I'm gonna shoot everybody. And 795 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.760 then I killed the handful of guys that I killed and was like, all 796 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.760 right, it's time for more combat. And then I went to go shoot 797 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.199 and I had no bullets, and I heard the dev that was walking me 798 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.880 through snicker and I was like what, And then I just got lit the 799 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:27.920 fuck up and he was like, yeah, you're out of bullets. And 800 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.079 I looked up and I was like, oh, I had eight bullets total, 801 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.960 and he was like, yeah, the only way to get more bullets 802 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.280 is to kill people without the bullets, and I was like, ah, 803 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:43.440 it just so yeah. So it really is like primarily a melee combat with 804 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:49.840 your your projectile weapon being your kind of last resort depending but it's also like 805 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.440 that was just the way that it shook out for me. That run, 806 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.519 right, It seems like there was a lot of room for variation in the 807 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.719 way that those that that mechanic can work in those conversations that you have with 808 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:07.320 your weapons can move back and forth. Looked really cool. I think the 809 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:12.920 procedural generation it reminded me a lot of risk of rain too. Actually, 810 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.679 there's co op, there's there's three person co op, and the all of 811 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.800 your loot is localized to you, so you don't have to fight your friends 812 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.480 or the people that you're playing with for the loot. You get your own 813 00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:32.400 loot that generates on the map. There are multiple systems to carry over certain 814 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.840 items from run to run. You can decide to if you pick something up 815 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.480 and you're like, I actually don't want this or need this, you can 816 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.559 stash it and either pull it forward because it is not advantageous for you on 817 00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.440 this run, or you can scrap it and get currency that you could use 818 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.440 between runs, excuse me, between runs. And in the hub world there 819 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:58.760 are there you have conversations with people, but there are no like traditional cut 820 00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.400 scenes, and I think this The preducer I was chatting with mentioned that I 821 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.800 guess this is a thing in hyper Late Drifter, but like all of the 822 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.800 story is ambient, there's no like, there's no cut scenes. So there 823 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:15.400 are these visual vignettes that don't there's no text. It's just like you you 824 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:21.400 unlock and decrypt these pictures and then you look at the pictures and then it 825 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.960 has them in order, kind of like a comic or graphic novel. And 826 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:31.960 sometimes the pictures will be in conversation with other pictures that are also in that 827 00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.360 biome, and they're all like character vignettes, and it seems like they will 828 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:43.719 they the meaning of them will change depending on how how many of them you 829 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:50.159 unlock. It seems really cool. It's coming into early access late summer is 830 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.599 what they said, so that could be any time between August and September. 831 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:58.000 But I'm really excited about it. I think we should play it on the 832 00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.960 site that co op Mode was watching some of it and I was getting the 833 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.760 same idea. I'm like, yeah, this would be really fun to actually 834 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.960 just straight it on the site. It looked really good. Let's let's do 835 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.559 Path of the Goddess and let's kind of like wrap up the other ones kind 836 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:15.159 of quickly. Pat knit Sue Gami Path of the Goddess. Who played that 837 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.199 mic? That was you? I played this over at Capcom. This is 838 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:24.800 that kind of action looking game new IP I believe the debuted last year at 839 00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.320 Xbox A showcase. At the time, I was kind of cool on it. 840 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.400 I played it here. I was surprised this is mostly a tower defense 841 00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.639 game. It turns out. I don't know if everyone else do that. 842 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.039 I'm just kind of late to the party. But yeah, like you have 843 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.239 this maiden who you kind of have to get from point A to point B, 844 00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.320 and then you have these kind of people you can help and you can 845 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.519 kind of upgrade them and tell them where to go. In the meanwhile, 846 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.480 Yeah, like it's like there's like phases of daytime. We were setting up 847 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:57.639 the phases of nighttime where the monsters start coming down towards the past and you 848 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.480 have like you know, you're there running around too, and you can fight. 849 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.599 And I kind of like the combo system because it's relatively simple. It's 850 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.039 like, you know, push, why do a strong attack X Y. 851 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:10.320 It's like your aerial X x Y your AoE, so everything is like a 852 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.039 combination of x's and then why is the finisher? But yeah, it really 853 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.119 is just like, yeah, I get this, Get protect the woman while 854 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.320 she dances down the path, gets to the place. There was like a 855 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.840 boss fight specific stage that uh switched up a little bit in terms of like 856 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.760 it almost suddenly felt a little bit more pitmanesque, I guess because because it 857 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.079 was like I was telling my people when to go in and attack the boss 858 00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.039 and when to retreat and protect the maiden instead, you know, kind of 859 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.800 things like that. But no, uh, pretty tower defensie in a way 860 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.039 that I even though tour Defense isn't my most favorite John in the world, 861 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.440 I thought that that made this interesting. Again when I first saw this and 862 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.559 it just looked like a relatively generic hack and slash thing. It didn't really 863 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:58.960 appeal to me. So seeing that depth there was welcome. Uh. Interesting, 864 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.079 Yeah, do you have a question about a Sean before we move on? 865 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.960 I think most people feel the exact opposite of how you do. I 866 00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:07.840 think everyone's upset it to Tower Defense. Actually, a lot of people wanted 867 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.800 it to be onny Musha. And it's not that I've been saying for a 868 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.840 long time now, why is this not just on a Musha Guiden or something? 869 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:19.360 Oh that's yeah, because it's like it because like Odama with Dante or 870 00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.480 something. Honestly, that's watching the gameplay that's Odama. Came to me as 871 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.559 well. Am I just playing as a little guy on the Odama playfield? 872 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:31.039 What the hell? It's like conquer Renegade about? Yes? Yeah? The 873 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.599 StarCraft Ghosts all right? You guys also played Fatal Fury, City of the 874 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:44.719 Wolves, Sports Star two games off of MIC. Is that right? Well, 875 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.880 once we figured out how to turn on the simplified controls for Nicko, 876 00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.559 it counts listen a dubs a dubbed dub damn right. I looked at that 877 00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:00.719 they presented the move list. It looked like a chi Lee's menu. They 878 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.519 gave it to us and they were like, here's the move list, and 879 00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.440 I was looking at it and I was like, I've never fucking seen I 880 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.000 don't even know what to control, Like what the fuck is this? And 881 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.760 Mike so kind, so generous. I can tell Mike was holding back initially 882 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:20.400 because I was like, I'm gonna press square and triangle and square and triangle, 883 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.920 and I was like, I'm not doing anything like doing the same like 884 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.320 low punch over and over again. And eventually I was like, listen, 885 00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.760 I have to call it adult over. We gotta put the ship on the 886 00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:34.159 smart so I can play the game. That's why. Yeah, we did 887 00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.920 have a good time. You know, I've played this game's kind of predecessor, 888 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.880 Guru Marco the World Is only recently and enjoyed it a lot. And 889 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:45.719 it does again, I'm not like the biggest fatal Fury uh knowledge man in 890 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:57.960 the world knowledge many, but this did feel like that game to me, 891 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.960 which is good because that's a very good feeling. Game feels like a lot 892 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.800 of fun, just you know, the good systems that that they have there, 893 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:07.480 with the kind of revving up and that thing where you get to choose 894 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.719 like can you do your special moves? Yeah, and you're the first third 895 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.199 of your health, the second third or the third third. That's a fun 896 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.199 decision to make. I still don't love the way the game looks. It's 897 00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.440 not some big deal break you're It's like it kind of wants to have this 898 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.400 comic presentation, so it has some cell shading and then like it'll randomly do 899 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.239 those like comic dots as a layer, and it's like kind of non capital 900 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.360 It felt Yeah, that's exactly the word I was gonna use. It felt 901 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:38.159 noncommittal, It felt confused, like it just didn't. It also felt dated. 902 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:44.360 Yeah, like this it it looked like an hd PS two game that 903 00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:49.440 S and K is making games on a not huge budget, so okay, 904 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.920 they need to find ways to cover things up. And that's why kof fifteen 905 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.320 looked the way it did with simpler cel shaded art style, and they're carrying 906 00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.639 that over into the City of the Wolves and they decide to go with like 907 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.440 a Marvel three art style, which is why Mike doesn't like it, because 908 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.480 he thinks Marvel three is an ugly game, and I quote that's true. 909 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.920 He admitted, but yeah, so that's why this one looks away. It 910 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.079 does. It's easier to do that with like shaders and stuff on a budget 911 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.719 then to do a really really right It is like this is like one of 912 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.880 the great trailers of all said, yes, there you go. Wow, 913 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:27.559 you're an awful exactly. This is always a hard it's hard pill for me 914 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.480 to just because like there was a time where like Saka made the best looking 915 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:32.880 fighting games because they were so good at like pixel graphics, and I guess 916 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.920 I get why we can't just go back to that. Before me is like 917 00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:38.480 can't we just go back to that? It's like any company could just go 918 00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.639 back to it like it should be. And K people don't want to believe 919 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.079 me on this, but pixel art is like a dying art. Is hard 920 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.920 to find people who can do that for like an entire major game. That's 921 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.800 why you see it more in the indie space with people who are specialized at 922 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:55.960 it, because you look at something like kof thirteen, they like rodoscoped to 923 00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.920 make the pixel art, like that's what they had to do just to get 924 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.159 it looks good. So yeah, I'm really excited though, who Yeah, 925 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.440 you get to play us most of the most of the rosters. Everyone that 926 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:14.280 was like that was in that demo, okay, Jenny and they weren't in 927 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.239 there yet. No, we had you know, Terry and Rock and the 928 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:22.960 newer woman with the glasses was that. Yeah, in Rocco or whatever the 929 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:28.280 guy is, you know again, not the biggest Fatal Fury knowledge Mark Mark. 930 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.280 You know in the Japanese Mega Man series, Doctor Light is known as 931 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:38.360 Knowledge Man. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because you know, so we're 932 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:43.760 getting Fatal Fury characters in Street Fighters six, right, We're gonna get a 933 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.360 Terry yeah, and then my you know, they're gonna look very nice. 934 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:52.920 Ye oh yeah, God. I think Susie said when the Internet gets r 935 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.840 E engine, my, it's just game over. Which, by the way, 936 00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.320 I didn't get a chance to talk about that yet. What a freaking 937 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.800 moment, Like, you know, my guy big Man Finelli mentioned it when 938 00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.800 he was on the couch. But this is like a historic moment for fighting 939 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:13.880 games. Street Fighter is getting its first ever guest characters. It's from Fatal 940 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:15.239 Fury Slash King of Fighters, which is a big deal because you know, 941 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.679 they've collaborated, they've done all this stuff before. But for a first time, 942 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.119 like mainline numbered street Fighter is getting this, which is just that was 943 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.960 an incredible announcement for me, Like this was a good SGF for me. 944 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.119 I got that, I got b Jenny my girl revealed for City of the 945 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:32.440 Wolves. This was a great time to be a fighting game fan. I'm 946 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.960 really looking forward to both of those things. I did get to play a 947 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.119 little bit issue first sas. I did get to try out and Bison, 948 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:42.760 who is the first character season two. Yeah, very fun, very excited. 949 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.800 Season one characters for street Fighter six didn't too much for me. I'm 950 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.920 very excited about the street Fighter six roster, especially a Lena from street Fighter 951 00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.920 three finally finally from street Fighter three representation in there. Yeah. Season one 952 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.440 felt like they were all just leading up to a Kuma. Season two is 953 00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.840 they're starting off strong with Bison, They're gonna have the two S and K 954 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.239 characters, and they're also having a fan favorite. That's that's a really that 955 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:06.559 sounds very strong. Yeah. Are they gonna put Mario in st right? 956 01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.440 Yes? Oh yeah, I should do that. They should do that, 957 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.079 yeah, or make a new Soul Caliber and put all the Mario guys. 958 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:17.480 Yeah. I played Yards Rising, which is that Metroid vanea from Way Forward 959 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.760 based on the Yards Revenge Atari game from way back in the way back, 960 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.119 and it had a better showing when I was playing it than it did in 961 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.920 that Nintendo direct. It still looks a little bit like made on a budget 962 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.760 in terms of visuals, but I thought it was It's got solid gameplay, 963 01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:39.599 and I really like the hacking mini game. Is you just playing Yards like 964 01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:44.159 you're just playing the old game, and they add complexity on that late like 965 01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:45.920 as you go through the game. That was pretty interesting. I'm like, 966 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:51.920 I thought that was clever. What is this for a person who's not eighty 967 01:00:52.000 --> 01:01:00.159 five? Yeah. Howard Scott Warshaw also made Yards for and it's like it's 968 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:05.400 probably one of the better Atari twenty six hundred games in terms of having a 969 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:10.079 lot to do, having complexity and depth. But the real reason I remember 970 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.719 it is because on G four every commercial break early on they'd have I'm Howard 971 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.239 Scott Warshaw. I made one with the worst game of all time in ET 972 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.599 and one of the best games all time, Yards Revenge. Howard. It's 973 01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.079 not that beloved, but it was cool. It's a good game. So 974 01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:27.400 apparently Way Forward went to Atari and was like, hey, he wants to 975 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.119 help. They're like pictures on a game pick anything, and they picked Yars 976 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.119 and like, hey, we'll make that into a metro vana. It is 977 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.119 you basically are getting these abilities. You could slot them into your little Yards 978 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.880 bug like thing that like is a menu option where it's like you're slotting in 979 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.800 these abilities like a puzzle, and that's determines how many different kinds of abilities 980 01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.920 you can have at any one time. And these things to use up your 981 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.039 a sort of currency. So if you're gonna do like the big double jump, 982 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.360 that uses up a little bit of the currency, and then to get 983 01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.800 that back you just need to do certain things in combat to make sure you're 984 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.440 like pairying at the right time. So it kind of encourages a little bit 985 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:07.440 more engagement with the systems than a standard Metroid being yet, but I was 986 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.519 pretty happy with it. Now we've got Marlin is there? So is this 987 01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:16.599 the first Yards game since that Toyota won on Xbox three? That's but yeah, 988 01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.840 very close. Yeah, I'm sorry, yes, yeah, Wow, 989 01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:22.880 you're should be really embarrassed. Okay, you're not knowledge man, that's true, 990 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:28.000 that's true. Claimed to be the knowledge man here Jeff, how did 991 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:30.119 it like just feel though, because, like as we pointed out, when 992 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:35.639 it first got revealed, they looked extremely stiff. Yes, it feels good 993 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.159 enough, like it's not Metro Dread, but it's not like it doesn't play 994 01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:43.440 so stiff that it's like, oh this stinks. No, it feels like 995 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.599 a pretty decent way forward game. Like I, you know, I think 996 01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:47.920 people give up. People have a pretty good idea of how those feel, 997 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.719 like Shante. It feels like Shante, which is good. Is fine. 998 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.119 Yeah, last thing I have on the list here, and if anyone else 999 01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.719 has anything else they want to shout out a shout out and pop off before 1000 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.320 we're doing they can. But Tails of the Shire Nikki was with you. 1001 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:08.000 Yeah, I watched John Warren who was on the couch over at vgb's I 1002 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:14.639 watched it over his shoulder and Bailey also played. It looked really cute, 1003 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.280 like I don't really think I have very much to say about it. They 1004 01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:21.960 were very That team seemed unbelievably proud of the video game that they had made, 1005 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:28.280 and fining Yes it's a hobbit cozy farming sim animal crossing light right. 1006 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.679 They were amped to talk about their game and everyone always is. But they 1007 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:37.880 were really proud of the thing that they had made and excited to show it 1008 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.199 off. And I think that, like their love for the source material really 1009 01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:46.280 came through in in every bit of the presentation. There's a bunch of foot 1010 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.960 options if you're if you care about that and the character creator, they were 1011 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.599 very proud of the fact that you can have your own little Hobbit house or 1012 01:03:54.639 --> 01:04:00.559 whatever the fuck they're called. I won't be saying that you can have your 1013 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:05.719 little Hobbit house. Mcgrouper now, so he knows the I like holes line, 1014 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:13.239 I like holes line. He knows it. That's good man. But 1015 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:18.960 the thing that they were very proud of and wanted, like really, we're 1016 01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.679 trying to drive home is that they were like, they had the opportunity and 1017 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:27.679 considered making it grid based when you were putting stuff down like Animal Crossing, 1018 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.599 and then they were like, but that's not how any of the houses and 1019 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:34.159 those movies are in this story. Looks that's kind of shit everywhere. So 1020 01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:40.000 you can really just like put stuff anywhere, like you just drop anything anywhere 1021 01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:45.679 when you're customizing those spaces. And I'm really excited to see what like inevitably 1022 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.320 on TikTok right after this game comes out. I think like there's going to 1023 01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:57.000 be an explosion of of house tours and sorry, whole Tours, and I 1024 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.559 think there will be I think, I'm I'm I'm excited for I'm excited for 1025 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.920 this. What does Whole Tours dot Com go to right now? Question? 1026 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:14.679 I leave that one to you. Yeah, nothing, can someone grab that? 1027 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.599 Yeah, if we can get Whole tours dot Com, that'd be great. 1028 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:21.159 Jan Uh, we we should wrap up real quick before we do that. 1029 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.039 Sean, you were at home. You saw stuff that we might not 1030 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:29.000 have seen. Anything stick out to you that you are wondering about. Oh, 1031 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.239 that was a good question, Jeff. I have been like dabbling in 1032 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:40.559 a whole bunch of demos, a variety of different events. I'm trying to 1033 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:44.599 keep track of where everything came from. Uh, Anton Blast got demo is 1034 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.920 part of something. Times are like, thank you for knowing our game when 1035 01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.559 it when it got when it got shown it like a director or whatever. 1036 01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.559 I'm like, yeah, Anton Blast rules, that's the Warrior where looking game? 1037 01:05:55.280 --> 01:06:00.519 Yes? Yeah right, yeah? Did you watch Soka? We may 1038 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.039 have all been busy during that, but I actually said it was a bad 1039 01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.000 show. It was a lot of stuff that was already known, right, 1040 01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:09.280 It was basically, yeah, a lot of stuff that was already known, 1041 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:15.239 a lot of people doing weird you be soft talking. I didn't. I 1042 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.400 didn't like the vibe of it at all. Yeah, just generally speaking. 1043 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:21.519 Two of the things that did stand out to me that we haven't talked about 1044 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.039 it at all yet, and you know they you guys have kind of talked 1045 01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:29.559 about them all right, But in the Xbox Show, I thought frag punk 1046 01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:32.559 looked really interesting. Oh yeah, yeah, that looks sick as hell. 1047 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:36.159 Yeah, Like I was thinking to myself, Okay, this like one minute 1048 01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:41.760 trailer of just the sickest thing you can imagine. That is how you show 1049 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.119 off a hero shooter in twenty twenty four, not what everyone else is doing 1050 01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:48.599 with like Concorde and everything like that. No, just show me I can 1051 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:53.360 flip the level upside down and turn on big head mode. Okay, see, 1052 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.760 yeah, we'll see you next year or whatever. Yeah that was sick, 1053 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.199 and yeah the Artistyle is getting everything. That trailer I think looked really 1054 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:03.199 cool. That one gonna be fun. And then Doom. I love Doom, 1055 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:08.880 and that was just an incredible true minor state is the Xbox like Get 1056 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.039 Together whatever, didn't have a lot of these games to play obviously dooms alway, 1057 01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.960 Yeah, they were not playing out and they had like Stalker two was 1058 01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:16.480 on the SUF show floor and I didn't play that. We'll be fineing there 1059 01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:23.199 later this year. It looked crazy impressive, It looked very pretty Xbox Xbox 1060 01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.599 had a really good show this. Oh yeah, I think everyone knows that 1061 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:28.960 what I was talking about, but I just felt that worth it was worth 1062 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.679 saying again new Mirror's Edge there. It's called Perfect Darkness something, but very 1063 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:36.880 excited. I'm I'm a little down on Perfect Dark just because I think it 1064 01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:43.159 looks slightly generic sci fi. I have great news for you. Perfect Dark 1065 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:48.559 is no perfect dark and wacky and wild sci fi. I think they are 1066 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.880 setting it up for like the Turn. I think they're setting up with the 1067 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:56.320 Prestige. Yes, exactly. This was just like the initial reveal trailer to 1068 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.960 just like make it clear to people who don't know, Hey, this is 1069 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:04.440 our James Bond styles spy game hit manything because's an now is that I think 1070 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.079 they were saying up for that, and then at least hopefully there will be 1071 01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:13.920 weird aliens in that game. Yeah, and I need forget about that guy 1072 01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.840 trailer. Honestly, if you had told me that this was like another futuristic 1073 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:23.319 Call of Duty or it was kill Zone or something like that, there were 1074 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:25.760 moments where I was like that, yeah, I could see that, So 1075 01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:28.359 that was a little worrying. But yeah, once they got into like the 1076 01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:30.199 parkour stuff and some of the art things that they showed, I was like, 1077 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.079 Okay, this is looking a little bit better, and I hope they 1078 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.680 just keep going down that path with this one something it looked like like the 1079 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:41.399 far sight vision, you know, like looking through doors and stuff like detective 1080 01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:44.640 vision. Yeah. I think they just get creative stuff. It'll go a 1081 01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:49.800 long way exactly. And Parker, yeah, we really should play Perfect Dark 1082 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:56.359 zero. We should get four people. The multiplayer is actually kind of okay. 1083 01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.680 Drew Scanlon for an Extra Life a few years ago and it was not 1084 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:04.520 great. You don't have okay, listen, no great? Yeah? Uh, 1085 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:09.760 me and Manati will be all right there. Someone telling me a Golden 1086 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:13.119 id Old demo is that? Okay? That's important. I'm so fucking excited 1087 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:16.520 because I just randomly started playing the last Golden Idol I didn't even know sequel 1088 01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.840 was coming out, and how there's a new one coming And I looked at 1089 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.520 the trailer and it's like seventies Detective Ship and I'm like, oh, I'm 1090 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:25.239 extremely in on this now. I'm very excited. Also, there's a game 1091 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:30.319 in the Steam Next Festival called Pinball Spire, which looks like Betray Vane. 1092 01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:35.199 Yet I think we're gonna say, yeah, I got to try that Island 1093 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:39.880 is express what I'm thinking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I played 1094 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:44.560 it for like twenty minutes before bed night or something, and I thought the 1095 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:49.239 pinball physics feel a little weird. It's an interesting are important to pinball typically? 1096 01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:55.119 All right, we should wrap this up. We got Black Club happening 1097 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.800 in a little bit. We'll take we'll take a little of a break before 1098 01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.760 we get to that era late coming in. Yes, but thank you all 1099 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.159 for talking with me about video games. We will have more coverage from Summer 1100 01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:08.399 Game Fest because there's still stuff embargoed. We'll probably just talk about those on 1101 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.600 bombcasts going forward. But thank you for watching, thank you for listening to 1102 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.640 everybody. Until next time, have a good one, to take care of 1103 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:14.960 yourself, and goodbye.