WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:13.000 Good afternoon. You're listening to Gambling with an Edge. Now here are your 2 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:18.719 host Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin. Good afternoon, welcome to Gambling with an 3 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:23.679 Edge. I'm Bob Danswer and I'm Richard Munchkin. And today is our last 4 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:29.199 day as far as we own now, we're not. This is our last 5 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:36.560 show, and it's possible we'll have sessions in the future. Kind of spurred 6 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.799 at random. Um, there's no plans to do that now, and who 7 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.920 knows what the future will bring. It's been a nice run, we've enjoyed 8 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:49.159 it, and we're gonna get down to your questions. Um. First ones 9 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:54.960 were we just got the day we're keeping this show, And it came from 10 00:00:54.960 --> 00:01:00.159 Colin Jones, who is a Black Tank apprenticeship good friend of the good friend 11 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.239 of Richard. To me, what is something you have learned from a guest 12 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:14.400 while hosting Gambling with an itche for me, I think it would be Captain 13 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:21.159 Jack telling us about the sign up bonuses that were happening in Arizona and other 14 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:26.599 places for in the sports book. And when you live in Las Vegas, 15 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:34.200 the border Arizona border is not that far away, and so I was able 16 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:40.280 to travel to Arizona and get down all kinds of bets. It was a 17 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:45.519 lot harder than I thought it was it would be. It's not there's there's 18 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.439 a learning curve to dealing with the fine casinos and funding them and stuff like 19 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.239 that, and so it was not falling off a log that I thought it 20 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:59.400 would be in. It took several trips. It's just never easy. And 21 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:07.280 later I did it flying to Denver to take advantage of the Colorado bonuses and 22 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:15.199 with a different set of beginner problems that I had to deal with and got 23 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.800 some of them solved and not solved. Overall, it was a highly profitable 24 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:27.280 play. But that's one example of something I learned a while hosting Gambling with 25 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.039 an Edge. Richard, did you learn something that you implemented, Well, 26 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:37.520 it didn't come really from one guest. It just came from our guests in 27 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:45.039 general, which was the idea that every single game can be beat under the 28 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.240 right conditions. And one of the things I'm proudest of is that we have 29 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:55.879 had people on this show talking about beating every game you can imagine. And 30 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:06.080 the person that really drove that home for me was Mohan Sevastova, who we 31 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:10.000 had on twice, who was a guy who figured out a way to beat 32 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:15.879 scratch off lottery tickets, and just a month ago we had mister Dapion, 33 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:23.520 who you know, years later made enormous amounts of money playing the lottery. 34 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.800 And so when Mohan was on, I was like, if you can beat 35 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.639 the lottery, you can beat anything. And that is true. You can 36 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:37.599 beat anything. Now, not all the time and not every casino, but 37 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.919 under the right conditions, everything can be beat. And so that that's what 38 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:49.319 was really driven home. Yeah, I agree with that. And if if 39 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:57.560 you haven't read it yet, Mohan wrote a short story about scrabble that won 40 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.280 some awards. He's Canadian and won someone words. So his last name is 41 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:12.199 impossible, it's shrivastavas r Iva Stava. But if you look at Shrivastava scrabble 42 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.840 you'll find it. It is well worth spending the five minutes to read this 43 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:20.480 short story. It is delightful. Or you could actually if you just search 44 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:26.079 for the episode wherever you get Gambling with an Edge. I'm pretty sure that 45 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.519 the link to the article is in the show notes for the episode. He's 46 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:35.959 on one of the two episodes he's on, all right, So we weren't 47 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:40.480 planning to have it recommended for today. But that's the one I wasn't planning 48 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:46.959 on giving, all right. So how about an ap play that you missed 49 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.839 out on that you wish could have executed. Why don't you go first? 50 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.600 Because you asked me this just before we went on the air, and I 51 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.279 came up with one, and then now I've already forgotten what it was. 52 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:06.240 All I have several. One was from a period of time Caesar's Palace in 53 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:15.240 Las Vega installed one hundred dollars three coin full Pay Duce is Wild. Now 54 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:21.319 full Pay Duce is Wild is a one hundred points seven six percent game plus 55 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:26.319 the normal slot club benefits, and in this would be three hundred dollars a 56 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:34.519 hand. And so it was gone before I ever heard about it. People 57 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:41.000 shared the machine amongst themselves, like you can have it for four hours and 58 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.800 then I get it back, or whatever they did, and it was long 59 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:51.959 gone. Somebody had the nerve to be dealt in royal and for I guess 60 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.160 I'd be two hundred and forty thousand dollars. And that was the straw that 61 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:03.560 broke the camel's back. So so I just one. I actually I actually 62 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:11.399 have two. So the first one is back in the early eighties when when 63 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:18.759 I retired the first time. It was the heyday of computer blackjack, and 64 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:23.720 I had moved to LA and was busy trying to break into the film business. 65 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:31.360 And my teammates two different teams started playing with blackjack computer and made seven 66 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:36.720 figures. And I was, you know, busy trying to be an actor. 67 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:46.519 So that that's one, and another one is in the late nineties. 68 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:54.279 It was the heyday of banking the games in California, and I got involved 69 00:06:54.399 --> 00:07:00.199 just a little bit, but again I was doing other things, and you 70 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.680 know, my friends who got all the way into banking in California again, 71 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:10.399 you know, made seven figures. And so those are those are two of 72 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:14.439 the ones that I wish I hadn't missed out on. And I have another 73 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:18.680 one that I hadn't missed out on. Ticket in ticket out is relatively new 74 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:24.959 phenomenon from the mid nineties on, I guess. But it used to be 75 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:29.519 when you would get a jackpot, which would be and when the machine locks 76 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:38.040 up, the casino will give you will put five coins in to start your 77 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:43.439 next hand. Now, if you're playing dollar video poker on a four thousand 78 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:47.360 dollars jackpot chappens every forty thousand hands you get an extra five dollars, or 79 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:53.279 in some games aces with a kicker you get an extra five dollars. That 80 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:58.120 is no big deal. But then Sunset Station installed one hundred dollars machines. 81 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:03.120 This requires five hundred dollars to play. And every time you get three of 82 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:09.399 a kind or hire it's a w TWD. And so instead of getting fifteen 83 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:15.839 hundred dollars for the WTG WTG, they would give you the fifteen hundred and 84 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:20.160 then give you five coins for the next one to make to turn it into 85 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.920 a two thousand dollars jackpot. Wow, the pay schedule was dreadful, but 86 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:31.840 it doesn't matter. This was a I don't know about one hundred eighty percent 87 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.840 game on a five hundred dollars a hand game. So the players who just 88 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.679 figured this out, none of them could afford five hundred dollars. They just 89 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:54.679 uh, but they been when it's a partnership, it's impossible to lose. 90 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:00.600 But of course they the casino only put up with that for an nine hands 91 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:07.159 and hold the plug on it, and and during those nine hands they did 92 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:15.320 lose, So I wouldn't feel bad about missing that one just because you know 93 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.840 that's not gonna last. I mean, no matter how dumb the casino is, 94 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.200 they're going to figure that one out pretty quick. Yep. So did 95 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.120 you have another one that you were going to mention? You said you had 96 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:35.320 two. I mentioned of both the banking in California and the computer play in 97 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.840 that case, Collins. Third question is what is our favorite? Wow, 98 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.559 I can't believe I'm doing this moment as an ap. And for me, 99 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:50.919 that was in the late nineties playing video poker. There were huge promotions. 100 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:56.320 Every weekend. They had ninety six Jacks, which is ninety nine and a 101 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.919 half percent with a six seventh slot club, generous comps, big promotions, 102 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.519 and so just going and playing ninety six Jacks are better, which is probably 103 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:16.679 the easiest video poker game ever to play perfectly. This was like several years 104 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:22.360 in a row for three or four hundred thousand dollars per person if you're playing 105 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:28.720 this full time, and it's just it would beat us well and give us 106 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.960 comp tickets, and it's just like, you know, I just think we 107 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.240 could be working and this was just a moment that we knew it wouldn't last, 108 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:41.360 and of course it didn't, but that was my wow, I can't 109 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.480 believe I'm getting to do this moment. Well, I have two again. 110 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:56.320 One of them was initially meeting Ed Thorpe at the Blackjack ball and having him 111 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:03.320 tell me he enjoyed my book and and and having him show up year after 112 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.080 year. You know, that was just really cool for me. Um. 113 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.799 But the other, the other one was a play that I really can't go 114 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.399 into the details of the play, but it was a play that involved there 115 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:26.559 were three other Hall of Fame members on the table with me on a play 116 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:35.519 that lasted twenty four hours and um was the largest table win of my career, 117 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:43.360 so um and and it was a play where a guy betting most of 118 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.039 the money was about as famous as you could get in the blackjack world, 119 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:56.559 and and the casino had absolutely no clue what was going on, none at 120 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:05.919 all. And and four months later invited him back, even after he we 121 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.159 decided he had to give up, he had to cash out the money because 122 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.120 we just thought it would be too weird for a guy to walk out the 123 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:20.960 door with that much in chips. Um and so he gave up id CTRD, 124 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.440 gave his real name, and four months later we were like, you 125 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:30.559 know, they never barn you, maybe we can go back. And he's 126 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:35.480 like it's not possible, like there's just no way, and but we said, 127 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.320 well, hey, call him on the phone and say you're thinking about 128 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.879 coming back, and see what they say. And they said, yeah, 129 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.759 come on, you know, we'll get your room and blah blah blah. 130 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.200 And we're like, oh my god. And we went back and within the 131 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.159 within the first hour, they came and shut the play down and said, 132 00:12:52.320 --> 00:13:00.919 uh, look, we googled you and again had no idea what was going 133 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.080 on, and because the game Wilson Blackjack that I think had a lot to 134 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.559 do with it, but yeah, it was maybe my favorite play of all 135 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:15.200 time. Yeah. Actually I haven't heard that story even offline, so I 136 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.399 would. I know, maybe the rest of you want more details on and 137 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.240 I know I certainly do, but it sounds like we're not going to get 138 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:28.000 him. All right. That's fun, Richard. I know you've mentioned enjoying 139 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.559 Ken Euston's million dollar Blackjack, something he said I take issue with as well 140 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.720 as I blew Colin Jones. Colin haven't mentioned playing early on with the seventy 141 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:43.360 percent risk of ruin? What can Euston said in the chapter on determination of 142 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.279 betting strategy, if we are winning players, chances of tapping out are never 143 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.480 more than one opportunity. I've often skeptically thought of that comment. Sitting short 144 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:00.840 stacked at the table, Richard, Well, I don't quite understand that one 145 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.559 out of two, I mean, fifty percent chance of tapping out. That 146 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:09.080 sounds absurd, Like, uh, you're of course you're going to tap out 147 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.440 if you do that. So I'm not sure what Ken meant. I remember 148 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:20.919 back in the eighties Ken calling my partner Daryl and saying, Hey, I 149 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:24.919 got these guys to put up some money from bankroll. How should I bet 150 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:31.120 it? And Daryl was like should I say to him? Like, why 151 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.200 don't you look in one of your books? Ken? So Ken Houston was 152 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:41.120 not the best guy to talk about bankroll management. But I don't know what 153 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:48.759 he's referring to, but yeah, so yeah, and it seems oh oh. 154 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:54.279 And as to Colin, Colin says like he didn't know what he was 155 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.320 doing. He obviously was playing with way too high a risk of ruin and 156 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.399 he didn't learn about that. Until much later in his career. So that's 157 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.039 that's what that's about. Yeah, and that's certainly true for me in video 158 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:13.159 poker on I didn't how to calculate risk of ruin early on. But there's 159 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:18.879 also seems to be a difference between a tapping up session wise and bank roll 160 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.080 wise. And so I'm thinking you never are going to bring your entire bank 161 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:31.480 roll to the table and risking that, although tapping out for individual session that 162 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:37.559 happens all the time where you have you know, four hundred or five hundred 163 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.279 bets with you out of whatever your bank roll is and lose that in an 164 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.279 individual session. All right. Next question, Bob, I met you many 165 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.159 years ago Bargota for a class and a copy of your books. Will you 166 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.879 be continuing with your Tuesday blog on Las Vegas Advisor? Answers Yes, I 167 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:03.200 continued. I planned to continue that blog indefinitely. Stopping the podcast has nothing 168 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.080 to do with changing my whole life for getting out of gambling completely or getting 169 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.879 out of writing. I'd like to find a way to I teach again. 170 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:18.320 I can find a casino that is interested in having me and has games that 171 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:23.919 are teachable. Next question, what is a penalty? For using ninety six 172 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:29.879 backs or better to play ten seven double bonus. And I haven't calculated this 173 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.000 recently, but I think it's about a half percent, taking the game from 174 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:41.480 one hundred point one seven to ninety nine point six approximately, probably more because 175 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.559 if somebody isn't talent enough or dedicated enough to learn ten seven double bonus, 176 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:52.759 that person probably doesn't know ninety six jacks or better perfectly anyway, all right, 177 00:16:52.840 --> 00:17:00.519 Next question is a sports betting about odds boosters that is promotional that some 178 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:06.079 sports book may offer. These bets mostly have plus EV. What do you 179 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.680 think about them? They could be a marketing tactic by the sports book to 180 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:15.960 get you to take on more variants. And a lot of sports books offer 181 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:22.440 small bonus bets every day they want to keep you coming back to their site. 182 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.720 Most of these are plus EV, so if you want to go to 183 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.319 their site, there are players who will go to all the sites in their 184 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:38.160 jurisdiction every day and make these small bets. And that is definitely positive EV. 185 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:45.400 And you can start out your day with fifty or one hundred, two 186 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.720 hundred dollars EV and then go on and do what you normally do. So, 187 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.720 yeah, if if I can recognize a good bet. I would. 188 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:59.880 I would definitely take this unless starting your day with a couple hundred dollars ev 189 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:06.640 isn't enough to be worth your time, which could be if if you're Richard 190 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:11.640 and talking about this game with four Hall of Famers on the table, stopping 191 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:18.960 to pick up two hundred dollars, it was way way too much so for 192 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.759 Richard, if you talk about it. How much whole carding did you do 193 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:27.240 in your career as a blackjack or other games? If you did hole carding, 194 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.799 did someone training what to look forward? You figure out and scout games 195 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:36.000 for yourself? Where'd you learn the correct strategy for playing against a known hole 196 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:41.960 part? So yes, I played quite a bit of hold cards in the 197 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:52.279 beginning. No nobody trained me in the beginning. It was finding dealers where 198 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.759 it was obvious, which there were so many hand dealt games in Las Vegas 199 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:02.440 back then that you know, there were just hundreds and hundreds of games to 200 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.640 look at, and the majority of the games were not what we used to 201 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:14.160 call front loaders or third basers with a handout game, but first basers because 202 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.920 the dealers used to peak under tens, so someone at first base could see 203 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:23.480 what the whole card was onto the ten. So I played much more of 204 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:30.640 that than I did. You know, Flashers, Yes, Blackjack and other 205 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.359 games. When other games got invented, that was a big boom for a 206 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:40.480 lot of people because many of the new games there were edges to be had. 207 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.720 So what was the rest of the question, I think? Or did 208 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.839 I answer all of it? Yes? I played it. Yes, I 209 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:51.079 played multiple games. No one taught me. Oh, where did I get 210 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:56.200 the strategy? Originally there was a strategy in Ken Euston's book. I think 211 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.400 it was million dollar Blackjack. There was a whole card strategy chart. You 212 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.920 know now the you know, the gold standard is Exhibit CIA by James grow 213 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.960 All. Right, now, question for me, says Bob. You've stated 214 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.920 on the show that card pulling, at least the type where you pull the 215 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:17.640 card between the deal and the drawing video poker isn't a thing anymore since machines 216 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.240 will retain the card's information through the draw. But do you ever or did 217 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.279 you ever employ other types of card pulling, such as removing the card before 218 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:32.720 the deal when you have a lot of multiplayers in ultimate act? And my 219 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:38.039 answer is I card pulled very rarely, simply because I'm a well known player 220 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:42.799 and at least in video poker, in every casino that allows me to play, 221 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:47.599 I assume there are some management people who think it's a bad idea for 222 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.880 them to let me play, so I try very hard not to give them 223 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.839 a reason to kick me out. I can never know when a camera is 224 00:20:52.880 --> 00:21:00.000 looking at me or being reviewed even after I leave, so I always act 225 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.480 as I'm being watched. I have ever done it? Yes? Do I 226 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:11.839 do it very often? No, in in slots. There's a lot of 227 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:21.119 really easy ways to do this on some games that you can generate huge losses 228 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:32.759 basically almost invisibly. But Dicky Krim mentioned a few of these uh month or 229 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:37.000 so ago. But um, but video poker, no, I'm not. 230 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.079 I'm not a card poler. Okay. I've been a regular listener for Gambling 231 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:44.480 with an Edge podcast last few years and I really appreciate all the time and 232 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:47.559 effort. Thank you very much. As you wrap up the show, could 233 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:52.160 you please recommend any other podcasts, blogs, forums, or other media resources 234 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:57.400 that come closest to providing the type of high quality current information and news about 235 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:02.519 advantaged place for which Gambling With and edges. No, this can include both 236 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:06.160 freed or paid resources. I don't mind paying for access to information. I 237 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:11.200 also listened to Risk of Ruins, Tens and Aces, the black Jack Apprentship 238 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:17.200 podcasts all are great, but they all release episodes much less frequently in gambling 239 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:21.799 with an edge. Okay, so what are the best podcasts? It depends 240 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:26.240 on your game. Sports betting has a number of good podcasts. I think 241 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:33.400 you know Captain Jack. I think Spanky Rufus has some of his own in 242 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:40.559 addition to the ones he does with Captain Jack. There are poker podcasts, 243 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.599 a number of them. I'm not up to date on the best ones. 244 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:51.240 Is that's not my game? The Richard, do you have anything to recommend 245 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.559 in that area? Well, if you covered, you covered the bulk of 246 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.799 it. I would also add m guy Rob Pizzole, who we had on 247 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.599 the show, has a podcast called Circles Off, which he's a really good 248 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:12.039 interviewer. It's a it's a sports betting podcast, but I found it engaging, 249 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.160 even though I'm not a sports better. And the other one that I 250 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:22.079 would recommend, which isn't really a how to show but a very entertaining show, 251 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.000 is called Gamblers and it's on The Ringer, which is, you know, 252 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.519 an offshoot of ESPN of some sort, so he doesn't do that many 253 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.039 episodes. He has like a season. It's run by David Hill, who's 254 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:40.359 been on the show, and he'll do like eight episodes and then you know 255 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:44.960 it'll be gone for a few months or whatever. So um, I would 256 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:49.960 add those those two to the mix. Yeah, and Richards also recommended like 257 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:56.759 the Freakonomics podcast and a few other podcasts which are not directly related to gambling 258 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.759 usually, but he's commanded them, and I assume he's still does. Oh 259 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.079 yeah, absolutely, yeah. I have lots of other podcasts I could recommend, 260 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:11.839 but that aren't gambling related. Okay, what is the biggest life lesson 261 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:17.480 that you've learned while gambling? Not so much gambling, but life lessons. 262 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:22.359 So my advice on that is to take care of yourself healthwise and LifeWise. 263 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:29.680 Stop smoking, manage your weight, exercise lots of water. Being vaccinated is 264 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:34.160 a smart thing to do, whatever your politics. Maintain relationships with other humans, 265 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.559 even if you're a solo road warrior. Findet zoomed that interests you. 266 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:48.119 I participate in a Toastsbaster group out of Iowa. They still have it on 267 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:52.759 Zoom. They started. They've been around forever, but they started Zoom podcasts 268 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:59.279 they're still doing them. So I've never met any of the people personally, 269 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:07.119 although I know one from another podcast. But I now I'm kind of in 270 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.519 relationship with fifteen people who are interesting who I've ever met, but I certainly 271 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.880 know what they look like and what their life's all about. Having an interest 272 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:23.200 in other people, it's probably important consider volunteering. Branch out. Don't be 273 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:32.599 the one trick pony, either in gambling or in life Richard. So life 274 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:38.200 lessons from the show or from gambling, The two that stick out or three 275 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:45.200 that stick out to me are learned to look at life in terms of expected 276 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:52.480 value, like really understand what expected value is and apply that to other things 277 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:59.640 in your life. Another one is, man, I cannot say this enough 278 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.599 time, sort of stressed enough. Your success is going to be determined by 279 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:11.799 your network and how hard you work. It's just then your network is so 280 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:17.960 incredibly important. And as I mentioned on the last Mailbag show, one of 281 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:23.279 the greatest benefits of this show to me was it expanded my network so much 282 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:30.160 by meeting people I never would have met otherwise, so and it just makes 283 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:37.480 me anyway happier because I have more people that I interact with in interesting, 284 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.680 in creative ways. So those are the two to jump out at me. 285 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:49.680 Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Now, Richard likes people more than 286 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.799 I like people, and so it is easier for he has been so much 287 00:26:53.839 --> 00:27:00.440 more successful at networking than I ever have. But I do believe believe that 288 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:07.480 my life works better when there's at least some other human interaction, and both 289 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:15.119 on a professional and a personal level or another Yeah, I'm sorry, go 290 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:22.880 ahead, finish your thought. No, go ahead. I also would add 291 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.599 I'm a big fan of quitting, So when things are not working, quit 292 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:34.119 So I think people get stuck in ruts where they feel like I can't quit. 293 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:40.119 I've got a mortgage or I I for whatever reason. But if you're 294 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:44.240 not happy doing what you're doing, then just stop and do something else. 295 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.960 You won't starve, You'll find another job or whatever it is. But life 296 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.759 is too short to hate. I really like the Anti Duke book on called 297 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:59.200 Quitting or Quit about some guidelines of when it does make sense to quit and 298 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:04.200 when it doesn't, and having a good quitting strategy makes a lot of sense, 299 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.880 all right. Next question. About a year ago, I met some 300 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.599 fellowayps who used to play black deck, but they told me they started building 301 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:17.359 players cards for free play. They started getting me into it, but it 302 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.480 soon turned me into working for them, where I would gather all their free 303 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.559 play for them off of multiple cards. They assured me it wasn't illegal, 304 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.519 but after seeing all the money it was producing and made me feel pretty uncomfortable, 305 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.920 I recently told him I wasn't going to be doing this anymore, but 306 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.519 I kind of figured that activity. A lot of people are doing this and 307 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.839 wanted to know from you guys if this kind of activity was legal or not, 308 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.079 or had any sage advice as to how to proceed would leave my conscious 309 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:52.160 feeling better. Now. I do play on my wife's card where it's allowed 310 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.039 or where I have not typically been told not to do it, which has 311 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.680 happened in a few places, But in general playing on somebody else's card, 312 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.640 especially several other person's cards, I believe it's fraud. There are a lot 313 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.039 of listeners to this podcast who do it. I'm not a fan. This 314 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.680 is an AP move, but it is also, in my opinion, cheating. 315 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:23.000 I would just add that it may be illegal in some places and not 316 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:30.599 others. But even if it is not illegal, I know quite a number 317 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.240 of people who have been arrested for it, and some charged for it, 318 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:38.559 and some who had to plead guilty to some charges for it. So it 319 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.319 is it is something you have to realize there is risk involved, and they're 320 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.480 giving you the risky part, right, You're the one going in with the 321 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:56.400 multiple cards to pick up the money. So yeah, I would definitely not 322 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:02.759 be doing it for somebody else unless they're I mean, even if they were 323 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.240 paying me a lot a big chunk of the of the money. Often you 324 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.759 know they're paying people ten percent or twenty percent to go pick up the free 325 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.319 play. You know. I think it's I think it's crazy. All right. 326 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:21.599 What do you both predict for the future of AP Richard, Well, 327 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:26.559 I've said this on the air a number of times. I predict that ten 328 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:33.480 years from now there may be no live casino games anymore. That it'll all 329 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:44.400 be machines, and it will be impossible to play anonymously because places they're already 330 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.839 restaurants and things like that that will not accept cash. It's eventually it'll be 331 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.799 casinos that won't accept cash. It'll be some something on your phone or some 332 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.400 device that hasn't been invented yet where you will get your money into play through 333 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.839 that device, and because of that, they will have all your information. 334 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:14.319 So for the vast majority of people, AP will be dead. But sharp 335 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:19.039 aps are always going to find ways to beat games. I at least I 336 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:26.200 believe that even if you can't be anonymous, and even if there's no cash, 337 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.880 sharp players are going to find a way to beat games. Yeah, 338 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.039 it's a mindset. I mean it's yeah. It might not be card counting, 339 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.000 it might not be video poker. Who knows what it'll be. I 340 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:47.599 mean, nobody thought they'd be out playing slots full time twenty years ago. 341 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.440 But that's a thing, right, So things change and you adapt or die, 342 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.880 all right, Does anyone still earning in black jack with automatic shuffle machines 343 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.720 Richard, Well, most of the people making money in blackjack aren't playing. 344 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:15.160 I think you mean continuous shuffling machines. Automatic shuffling machines are just machines that 345 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.079 shuffle the cards for you, but they still deal them out of a shoe 346 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.640 with a cut card and deal, you know, four decks out of six 347 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:30.400 or whatever are but continuous shuffling machines, then card counting is mostly dead in 348 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:35.119 that situation. That doesn't mean that the game of blackjack can't be beat, 349 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.519 but it is mostly dead for card counters if all they have is continuous shuffling 350 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.119 machines, like some of the countries in Europe. But they still might have 351 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:51.079 whole carding possibilities on these games or promotions or something. Well yeah, but 352 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.240 not in Europe because they don't take a whole card. But there might be 353 00:32:53.279 --> 00:33:00.480 other ways to beat the game. Yeah, all right, what is your 354 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:07.839 favorite casino game of all time? Well, I mean, I'm I'm just 355 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.319 tempted to say blackjack, just because that's where I spent the most amount of 356 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.759 my time. Yeah, well, you're still debated. Yeah, let me 357 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.839 let me try my answer. For me, even though I play a lot 358 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:25.079 of slots these days, video poker has been the my meat potatoes for almost 359 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:34.799 thirty years, and for me, in video poker my favorite. I enjoy 360 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:39.599 induces while and quick quads more than other video poker games, but I always 361 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:47.640 ranked favorite in terms of expected dollars per hour, and for me for an 362 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:53.440 extended period of time, that was always at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas 363 00:33:53.519 --> 00:34:01.359 during my Million Dollars run twenty some years ago, where they were given away 364 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.599 the store and didn't realize that. I just kept playing and playing and playing, 365 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:13.920 and that was definitely something that was really favorite for me. Yeah, 366 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.800 what's your largest failure in a casino? Did we have this question before? 367 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.239 I thought we answered it? Maybe not, maybe I just read it. 368 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:28.599 But anyway, if I've told the story before, forgive me. But in 369 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:36.079 nineteen eighty five, there used to be a magazine called Gambling Times. It 370 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:45.480 was a monthly magazine and I would read it religiously. And I saw a 371 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.559 little ad in the back of the magazine that said they were opening a new 372 00:34:51.639 --> 00:35:00.480 casino in Aruba and they were going to have single deck. And I immediately 373 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.360 called my friend Daryl, and I said, Hey, we need to go 374 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.360 to a Ruba. And so I had found two games. One was in 375 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.119 Through a Sow where they had an early surrender, and then there was this 376 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.960 game. So we went to Curius Out first. We got stuck right away 377 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:22.280 with the early surrender, and so we ended up there extending our trip and 378 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.000 we didn't have a lot of time left, so we finally flew over to 379 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.480 a Ruba and we get to a Ruba and we asked them where's the new 380 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.079 casino, and they send us to a place and we go there and there's 381 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:38.400 no single deck, and so we go scout all the other casinos on the 382 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:45.360 island and it's not there. It was all a false alarm. So we 383 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.880 lost this money and we head back to Vegas and I later found out that 384 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.440 there was a casino that we missed somehow. It was not right on the 385 00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.920 beach and we did not find it. And the guy who did find it 386 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.239 was able to win three hundred thousand dollars on that game before they kicked him 387 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.880 out, and those are nineteen eighty five dollars. And so that was my 388 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.920 biggest failure, the fact that we did not find that game, knowing that 389 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:22.159 we were going there specifically to look for that game. All Right, what 390 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.519 is the single best piece of gambling advice you could give to an up and 391 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.599 coming gambler. Well, I think we just kind of covered that a couple 392 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:37.840 of questions ago. But the best piece of advice is think about things in 393 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.559 terms of expected value, and your success will be determined by your network and 394 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:50.239 how hard you were. Yeah, I'm thinking the person who sent this question 395 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:57.320 is wants to know how to get rich without doing any work, and I 396 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.320 don't know how to do that. Yeah, good luck with that, all 397 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.239 right, Where you're going to have our last commercial break and we have poor 398 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.519 questions before we wait, you know what, wait just a second, I 399 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:16.840 have one more piece of advice. Conventional wisdom is maybe conventional, but it's 400 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:23.320 not wisdom. I think there is money to be made in areas where people 401 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:28.719 say, oh, well, you can't do this, and and sometimes those 402 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:34.280 are the areas you need to go really investigate because you won't have competition if 403 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.239 you find a way to do what everybody tells you you can't do. So 404 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:45.119 just you know a couple examples or one example of that is it used to 405 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:50.440 be, you know, when six to five came out, people were just 406 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.239 like, oh, this is horrible, the death of blackjack, and you 407 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.360 know, nobody should ever play six to five. And there were a lot 408 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.800 of players who made lots of money playing six to five because they didn't listen 409 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:09.039 to the conventional wisdom. Another example was every time somebody brought up computers on 410 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.960 the old BJ twenty one, Stanford Wong and a whole list of guys would 411 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:21.079 immediately say that's illegal, you'll go to jail. Well, it was illegal 412 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:27.400 in Nevada, that didn't mean it was illegal everywhere. And so again, 413 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.480 you know, people who did not listen to the conventional wisdom were able to 414 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.679 play with computers and places where it was still legal. So just one more 415 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.000 piece of advice, and ploppies, those options are not available to ploppies. 416 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:50.639 I'm assuming ploppies mean you know nothing about advantage gambling, and what Richard's talking 417 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:57.320 about is pretty sharp players looking for new ways on top of the old ways. 418 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.239 But they're really well versed in the old ways, so it may not 419 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:07.760 be thing. 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I probably was eighteen 458 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:31.880 or nineteen years old and with my first real girlfriend, and we both were 459 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.760 Sunday school teachers at the local Methodist church, and so they took all so 460 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.079 we kind of chap broke a group of kids who went to a carnival and 461 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.679 they had a fire a gun and hit a target and if you can knock 462 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.559 go the target, you get a free teddy bear. So Gretchen Toby she'd 463 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.639 like a teddy bear. So it didn't look that hard. So I went 464 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.360 and went up there, and they showed me how easy it was, and 465 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.400 they just like tipped it with a long stick and fell right over, And 466 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:14.559 then they put it back up there again and had me shoot, and even 467 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.079 if I bet again, they would let me use the stick to push it 468 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:23.079 over. And of course it didn't work because but I noticed the thing I 469 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:31.639 had to tip over had it it was lopsided, and if the the fat 470 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:37.920 side, then when you tip the top it just falls over and but doesn't 471 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.079 fall off the shelf. And if you if the fat side is behind, 472 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:46.800 then when you tip the top it actually falls into the hole. So um, 473 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.159 but I noticed that it had a I noticed the spot, and when 474 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.000 they did it to show me how easy it was, the spot wasn't there. 475 00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:00.400 And when I had to do what the spot was there. So after 476 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.639 I had the stick to they just allowed me to push it over if I 477 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.199 paid for the bet. Then I said, you need to turn it around 478 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:15.440 because you're cheating, and if you turn it around, I'll tell everybody how 479 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:21.119 are you cheating them? So they turned it around and let me push it 480 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.639 over with the thing and I got Gretchen a Teddy Bear. So um, 481 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.760 I have no idea where that teddy Bear is today. I suspect it is 482 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:37.400 long gone, but I have not seen Gretchen for sixty years and Teddy Bear 483 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.199 either. All Right, you said that the worst thing you can do with 484 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.800 the promotional match wager is to get on Roulette and have one person place their 485 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.400 match bet on red and the other place at the same wager on black, 486 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.679 and then split the wind if the wind happens. It took I took my 487 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:59.159 friends to be acclaim and using Southwest promotion that has been mentioned on the show. 488 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.960 Thank you very much, and my buddy who rare. Hambles took the 489 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.800 advice from the group DGEN to use the strategy attempt to talk both out of 490 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:13.280 it, and alluded to the show saying they're better off placing it on number 491 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.480 or numbers. The DGEN said, but this is a sure thing. Um 492 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.000 well it hit green, so I felt validated. Can you explain this again 493 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.559 so I can share with them? Or in what episode can I find this 494 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:32.159 information? Oh, we don't want to spend their last episode talking about math. 495 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:39.320 Uh yeah, I don't. I don't remember what episode it was in. 496 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:44.599 But you know, people like that, I think you're better off not 497 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:50.519 even trying to or or you know, a better thing is whatever they think 498 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.719 they're guaranteed to win, offer them that amount of money to buy the coupon 499 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.519 from them, and then better the right way and earn the extra EV. 500 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:06.199 Yeah, and you know, one one thing about EV is you can lose 501 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:13.199 on this particular If you're really concerned about winning this particular time, then yeah, 502 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.840 taking the guarantee is worth something. But if you're in this game for 503 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:23.159 a length of time, winning this particular time is not so important. It's 504 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:29.760 how you do over over the year, over your lifetime that matters. Also, 505 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.760 by the way, most places will not allow you to bet those coupons 506 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.480 on a single number, so it may not have even been an option. 507 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:44.559 Yeah, And when when I play at the d with my those coupons, 508 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:50.159 I use it on the it's the gambling pass line, just the craps pass 509 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:58.159 line, and it's resolved fairly quickly. I win my forty nine percent of 510 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:04.480 the time that are supposed to and it works out fine. And so they 511 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.360 can you can have a lot of these coupons all at once. You get 512 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:14.320 two every two every time you show your pet. In addition to Southwest, 513 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:20.519 they also will accept boarding passes from Spirit Airlines, and so you can do 514 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.960 it every time you come to Vegas. As long as you flew on one 515 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:27.519 of those airlines, you get two of these twenty five dollars match play cupons. 516 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.719 So if there's two of you, that's four coupons for all right. 517 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.760 And when I play, I'm also playing someone slots at the same time. 518 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:44.360 I'm not going in there just to collect the bonus. If I'm in there 519 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.920 and they and I have to go to booth to collect it, I make 520 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:52.519 sure they have play on my card on day, all right. Next question 521 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.920 I'm a new listener and very much enjoy your podcast. I played Black Teck 522 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.079 for years and have recently tried high local hard counting system and, being honest 523 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:06.519 with myself with my attention deficit disorder, I found the hours on end concentration 524 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:10.159 remark successfully implement the system is just too much for me. Instead, I'm 525 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:15.239 playing perfect basic strategy at the most busy table I can find while playing rated 526 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.199 with casino comps. I'm actually playing very close to break even and having fun 527 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.119 doing so. My question is is there any advice for lowering the house edge 528 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:30.239 further than what I'm already doing without using a professional card counting system. My 529 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.639 interested is being the smartest gambler I possibly can, given that card counting is 530 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.800 too tough for me. Well, I would say probably there were There are 531 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.800 things you could do. I assume you're playing double deck, which is going 532 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:49.239 to give you the lower house edge than the shoe games, and there are 533 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.599 some kind of combinations of cards that would give you a tiny amount, but 534 00:48:54.119 --> 00:49:01.800 better would be to try to fool them on your size of your bet and 535 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:07.639 the amount you're playing. So Comps City is a book we've talked about a 536 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.239 lot by Max Rubin, And the idea is your comps are based on your 537 00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:19.239 average bet and the amount of time you're playing. So if you can convince 538 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.559 them that you're betting more than you really are and that you're playing more longer 539 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:30.400 than you really are, that will lower the amount that you're giving to the 540 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:37.320 casino and EV but get you more in comps. So the ways to do 541 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.760 that are to bet more when the pit boss is over there filling out the 542 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:47.239 rating card and then lower your bets when he walks away, and taking frequent 543 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:54.320 bathroom breaks, doing things like getting to the table before they're going to change 544 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.639 the cards, because it always takes time for them to go through all the 545 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.159 decks and change the cards, and you're on the clock while that's happening. 546 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:09.119 So yeah, those are the things that can increase your comps and lower the 547 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:16.760 amount of EV you're giving the casino. Right, last question about video poker, 548 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.440 I've recently started practicing on my phone, and when trying to play quickly, 549 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.639 I occasionally hold a face car to throw away a low pair just by 550 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.039 accident, but it will make me feel better if they don't see an additional 551 00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.719 low card of the same value on the draw because I figured it wouldn't have 552 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.440 hit a three or four of a kind with that car. Is this the 553 00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.199 correct mentality or would the draw be different had I kept the pair? I 554 00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.039 figure out I'm wrong, But it does make me feel better about making a 555 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:51.719 mistake. Well, I'm glad it makes you feel better whatever. Whenever that 556 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:57.320 happens to me, I slow down. Usually such mistakes are made by playing 557 00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:01.280 too fast. These airs add up, which can mean the game you thought 558 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:08.320 you were playing with advantage you aren't. So whatever card you actually hit on 559 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:14.039 this practice on your phone, you have no bearing on anything. That's not 560 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.920 really a payoff window. And when you're playing, if you make this mistake 561 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:22.480 in a casino, it's the cards are still shuffling, and so the actual 562 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.840 cards that you get after holding the single high card are going to be different 563 00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.400 than the ones you you got if you if you held it a tick slower. 564 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:37.519 So basically, slow down and you'll be And so we're at the end. 565 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:43.400 Do you have any last words for our listeners, Richard, Just that 566 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:52.440 it's been a pleasure. I started August of twenty eleven, so twelve years 567 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:58.119 ago, almost twelve years, and it's just it's been great. I've learned 568 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.599 a lot, met a lot of great people. So yeah, I've really 569 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.559 really enjoyed my time doing this. Yeah, and I started six months before 570 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:14.559 that where Frank Niela was my co host for a while. And I've learned 571 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:21.719 a lot and I appreciate the I've become. I become less of a pariah. 572 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:29.039 Since I started this, I have historically had lots of bad um things 573 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:35.719 written about me in various blogs, various Internet forums. And since I started 574 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.079 the show and people have gotten to know me more. Um, a lot 575 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:47.599 of the questions still have gone away. The still on I'm not the I 576 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.159 don't have a lot of fans on blackjack discord. I understand that, and 577 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.800 they still trash me regularly, but um wait, they love you. They 578 00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:04.400 love sexualizes and video poker. Okay, shall we say that opinion is not 579 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:09.880 unanimous over there. But uh, but I've enjoyed it. I've grown a 580 00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:19.119 lot as a knowledge wise UM have now accepted as a wise senior citizen of 581 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:25.559 in the gambling world, which is um not a bad position to be in. 582 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.400 I continue to get invited to the Blackjack ball, for which I'm grateful. 583 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.840 I enjoy that, even though blackjack is not my game and getting to 584 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:45.880 know Richard better has been a plus, and I'm one of my goals is 585 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.679 to stay in touch with him even after we end this the good part of 586 00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.119 my network, well, thank you all our listeners for this. Thank you 587 00:53:54.239 --> 00:54:00.079 Richard. Go out and hit a royal flush everybody. Good day to