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London Calling, London Calling. There's
pictures of a hand aby my neck and

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that is the security saying that he
knew that if I, if I totally

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hit the floor, you become not
a human anymore. It's not like someone

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punching in the phase if you're a
body on the floor. The police agreed,

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every police officer I've talked to agreed
in New Zealand that I was lucky

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to be alive. Welcome to London
calling with me James dulling Part and my

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very good friend mister Toby Young.
I've got nothing to tell you this week.

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I've just been I've been having this
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desert of meaninglessness because I was so
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to die in the hunting season that
I wasn't really expecting this lease of life

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or this or this void as I
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which is when it all kicks off
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going to be alive then. So
you're now so devoted to hunting. It's

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become such a central part of your
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has ended when the hunting season ends
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Well, it's what it has to
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everyone goes to hell in the manner
of their choosing. And it's about adrenaline,

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really, isn't it. Adrenaline and
camaraderie. I have no social life

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really outside the hunting field, and
I'm not really interested in talking to people

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not on a horse, frankly,
and I missed the adrenaline bars. It's

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just it's just like, I mean, you get this from war correspondence,

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don't you, when when they come
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missed the miss the bars. You
know, do you think you might be

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suffering from PTSD? Curiously, one
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is paranoia, So maybe one of
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these paranoid conspiracy theories is actually just
a symptom of the PTS that the post

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raumatic stress disorder you suffer in virtue
of riding. Yeah, that would be

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that's really that's really insightful. Well
done, mate, I'm so impressed the

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way that you marrige a segue from
hunting into I don't want to believe in

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conspiracy theories because they are too scary
in the cias probably not too nice.

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One times, listen, I wrote
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you, which I thought was quite
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Bill Gates has been pulling the strings
behind the scenes because he has this depopulation

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agenda, and I just wanted to
get your reaction to it. It's quite

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it's it's not particularly mean spirited,
and it's by a blogger called Eugypius who

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we republish, you know, just
the guy who's into nar He wants to

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go so far, but no further
because it's too scary, Like like a

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lot of you people. I think
he's I think he sits somewhere between Team

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Chains and Team Tobia, but probably
closer to Team Toby than Team James.

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Certainly on the role of Bill Gates. So this was what he said.

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He said, I would observe that
theories of Gates and the vaccines must be

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brought into alignment with several basic facts. Vaccination rates across Africa and the Third

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World are truly dismal. Gates himself
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inability to stop transmission, and the
Earth's population has continued to increase since the

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pandemic began, undaunted by all public
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depopulation via the mass administration of pharmaceuticals, we can take some solace in the

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boundless idiocy of our shadowy overlords.
What do you say to about James,

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I mean, if it is Bill
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going very well. I don't think
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course, the powers that be,
the Cabal, the prevator class, whatever,

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I mean, They're going to have
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contact with the enemy. So the
fact that he wasn't a or to get

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such traction in Africa, despite having
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the bumping off of people like President
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the fact that the funny died of
COVID. Oh yeah, yeah, right,

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but he died of COVID, of
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fact that they couldn't persuade people in
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people still live in remote villages in
Africa. And also Africans have bitter

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experience of Bill Gates's vaccination programs would
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if they save any lives at all. So I don't think that Africa's reluctance

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to get death jabs is a prima
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is not trying to depopulate the world
is that these are non secretaries. Well,

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one of the reasons more vaccines weren't
available in developing countries was because they

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were diverted. Vaccines intended for developing
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wanted a hog what they believed were
these very effective vaccines for themselves. There's

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something in them WhatsApp exchanges in the
Lockdown files and which Matt Hancockie believers is

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seen to try to divert some vaccines
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So it's not the reluctance of you
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vaccine that has retarded the vaccine in
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the error vaccines in Africa. I
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something that that that in these possibly
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anyway, But supposing they're true,
supposing they are accurate, well, you're

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just saying that the lucky Africans dodged
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that they would hog that they would
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to Africa. But it doesn't it
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case, Africans all across the continent
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death shots. I don't think they
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fact that people like Hancock, who
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puppets of the w EF, and
people like Bill Gates, why are they

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trying to divert vaccines intended for the
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your object is to depopulate the world, surely you'd start in developing really really

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obsessed with this. This is your
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that either Ridge is Bill Gates are
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and if he doesn't, or if
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as I said before, no plans
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they are going to be cock ups
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like you to say, oh,
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and there's nothing nothing planned about it. It means none of the stuff means

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anything. It's just there's just your
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actually rather sinister and horrible. Just
just just on the telegraph being brought and

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paid for. I mean, if
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and Martin called up occasionally sometimes published
Menism and Alison Pearson podcast people people who

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were prepared to operate within the terms
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not people like me. I think
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of course, you do. Was
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the other They certainly did give a
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skeptical about vaccinating child like Molly Kingsley
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And this is in your your Champion
example ever since because you love it,

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because it proves what the Telegraph was
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on. I don't think so.
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necessarily more critical than they were accepting, but it does prove that they weren't

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bought and paper, which you said
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are interested in this debate about the
veracity of the lockdown files or whether it

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was part of what you still believe
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now the conspiracy. Now they're conspiring
to persuade us. It wasn't a conspiracy.

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Readers were interested in that question.
We'll have an opportunity to hear me

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interview. Isabelle Oakshot, who released
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the Emmanuel Center. I'm taking a
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We've organized a live event at the
Emmanual Center on June the third, doors

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open at seven from ten from eight
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interviewing Isabel on stage about the Lockdown
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readings of some of the more sensational
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Cummings and Boris Johnson. That this
is my minor Isabel's idea. But tickets

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will go on sale on April the
eighth, and we'll put up a link

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to how people can register to be
notified when the tickets go on sale at

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the bottom of the podcast page on
Ricochet. But I'm just I've just been

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in the process of organizing is setting
it up, getting some flyers done,

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and trying to emulate your own successes
in various respects. James. I've been

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told by one of your collaborators that
it's better to announce when tickets go on

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sale rather than put tickets on sale
immediately, to build up some anticipation and

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a bit of excitement and hubbub about
the forthcoming event anyway, James, I'm

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you are clearly a marketing genius,
given that you sold out the Emmanual Center

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within a couple of weeks and sold
nine hundred seats. So you may have

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an opportunity to crow about lack of
ticket sales to minor Isabell's event in due

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course. But tickets are. Tickets
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and it's going to take place on
June third at the Emmanual Center. I

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wouldn't experience any chardon freud or if
you sold no tickets terms. I wish

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you well. Yeah, I mean, it's tough making a living in this

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kind of it is, so good
luck. Should we hear from one of

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Last week I went on a little
mini break with Caroline. We went

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to Marbaya for two nights and it
was at the invitation of the owner of

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the British International School of Marbaya.
He wanted me to talk to Euar eleven's

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and six formers about free speech,
and he put us up at this very

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nice hotel on the beach and we
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who lives in Gibraltar. I hadn't
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about a forty five minute drive from
Marbaa. But yeah, I had

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a really nice time. It was
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you know, particularly as we've had
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so it was it was a lovely
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nice to get away. And you
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Spain anymore. So problem and you
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from Gibraltar, because I mean,
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dark places on earth, isn't it. Gibraltar from the Seychelles I think are

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about the worst. Yes, we
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I think the spike in infections in
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of the most vaccinated regions of the
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vaccine did not prevent you from infecting
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you know, was it called vaccine
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the then First Minister of Gibraltar in
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lee skeptics or was it then was
the lockdown skeptics is finest hours. Yeah,

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um, well, I'm that's one
of the things I've been trying to

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do. I've been trying to plan
a holiday, um, and I mean

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it's hard because, apart from really
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one is going to be have before
one ever gets oft by the evil Cabal

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or prevented from traveling by the by
their master plan, which is I mean,

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it's very clear um that if you
look look at the fires document,

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I think it's called that there are
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by twenty thirty and stoppers traveling.
That is, that is the game plan,

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and it's the same all over the
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quite difficult to explain to one's one's um

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normally friends when they say, oh, well there's always you know, we

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can always go next year or the
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able to? I'm not sure you
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like that, that that you're making
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imagining that you have less control over
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was interesting piece actually by Jonathan Hite, whose next book is going to be

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about the negative impact of social media
and smartphones on jen Z and it's I

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guess the kind of data point that
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Z so susceptible to mental illness?
Why is there this mental health crisis amongst

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kind of young people, particularly young
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or The Codding of the American Mind, in which they kind of explored this

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a little bit. But it's going
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his next book. And he co
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a depressive episode at one point and
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of it because he did a course
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insight, Jonathan Heights hypothesis is that
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people who are suffering from unusual levels
of depression is because they are being exposed

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to the opposite what he calls reverse
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platforms that they frequent. So CBT
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and the third is you aren't as
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you're imagining. You can control aspects
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can be within your grasp. And
universities obviously and insofar as they've been captured

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by the woke cult and most social
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which is why women, he thinks, suffered from more mental ill health than

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young men in the same demographic.
They teach them to catastrophize, whether about

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the environment, about their future,
about the pandemic. One of the reasons

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that young people believe that the government
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that was the extraordinary finding in a
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think the government should have been much
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asunder an even more constrained form of
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more so than older demographics, curiously, even though they were more adversely affected

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by and less at risk from the
virus. So they catastrophize. They've been

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taught to catastrophized by universities and social
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you know, they're taught to prioritize
their lived experience or whatever that is,

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over evidence and data. And they
also imagine that they are the mercy of

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these forces beyond their control, whether
it be white supremacy or the patriarchy.

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They believe that they walk past a
statue of a slaver or a colonialist like

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cecil roads, it's going to traumatize
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of evil eye like impact, it's
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All kind of nonsense. But they've
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why they're suffering from depression. And
sometimes when I hear you talk, it

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sounds like you've kind of brought into
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catastrophize, you engage in emotional reasoning, and you imagine that all these dark

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forces, these satanic forces that are
beyond your control, are kind of,

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you know, affecting you. You're
at the mercy of them. Do you

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sometimes think that that could be You've
looked at CBT as a possible cure for

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you while you're busy diagnosing my accurate
concerns about the future as as mental illness.

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I was just I was just looking
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Org. Uk fires is a collaboration
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Nottingham Bath and Imperial College London.
We are funded by the Engineering and Physical

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Sciences Research Council, which is the
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research in the UK. So this
is is an organization which is producing research

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sort of sort of blue sky thinking
for government policy to deal with with net

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zero. Are you saying that this
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Professor Julian Allwood, delivering on the
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fifty Did I just conjure this up
from my depressed imagination? Did I just

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imagine that they have produced this document
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all the major most of the major
airports in the UK will be closed down.

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You say that it's only my negative
thinking, which is which is which

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is getting in the way of my
traveling. But surely a more likely thing

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to get in the way of my
traveling is if I cannot catch a plane

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anymore because all the all the airports
are being airplanes as being grounded and all

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the airports closed. You seem to
be at odds with reality, odds with

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evidence. It's all very well waving
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mental illness. And by the way, here's here's a book that I've heard

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of by Jonathan Height, But it
doesn't actually address the key issue of there

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is a plan for a great reset. There is a plan called for net

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zero. It is embedded in UK
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around the world. And I think
to bury your head in the sand and

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go, oh, actually, you're
just crazy. It's not really addressing the

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issue. Well, I did think
you're crazy for imagining that there is a

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net zero agenda. And there are
various climate activists, sometimes in key positions

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important institutions, who have a kind
of net zero agenda under the government itself

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tops and in the government. To
an activist, all the government are on

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board with this. Well, I
don't. I don't think no, I

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don't think that's a paranoid fantasy.
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for net zero is partly fueled by
the catastrophizing which people who sign up to

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these various utopian agendas have been engaging
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sense that the closure of Britain's airports
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is inevitable because some people are arguing
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example I think of imagining that we
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not talking about activists were funded as
well by the government. But let me

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give you an example of why I
think you're being too pessimistic, too fatalistic

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about the closure of airports. Did
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referendum in the city of Berlin in
Germany yesterday and they were asked to vote

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on whether to bring forward the date
at which the city of Berlin becomes carbon

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neutral. And I think the the
the current date is something like twenty forty

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six, and they were they were
voting whether to bring it forward massively accelerated,

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so I think within the next ten
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at the ballot box. Um so
doesn't look like Berlin Airport will be closing,

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at least not before twenty forty six. So you know, of course,

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of course there are there are people
out there with an agenda to close

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airports, and that may impede your
ability to travel, but it's not inevitable.

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It's not it's not inevitable. You
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people other conservative government that you repeatedly
brown nose and support because you want them

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to be your friends. And I'm
saying that you should cut loose from these

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people because they are not they're not
conservatives, they don't represent your interests.

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Why do you why do you give
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in any way? Then it's already
well saying, oh, there's a few

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activist groups out there that are floating
these crazy ideas. This is embedded in

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government policies, just like fifteen minutes
cities are embedded in government policies, just

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like this transition from petrol driven cars, which they're about to to make.

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You know, you can't buy them, buy them anymore. That this transition

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to electric cars, which we don't
have enough electric points to charge. All

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these measures are actually a policy of
this government which you repeatedly support, and

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you see very much and too criticize. I don't get it that all these

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people, everyone at cabinet level,
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not just Greta Thumberg and her crazes. Well, you mentioned fifteen minutes cities.

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I don't think the government is promoting
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cities have been promoted by local authorities. But Richie Sunas actually said that there

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may be a case for government intervention
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traffic calming measures which run popular with
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for. And I don't think that, you know, the emergence of fifteen

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minute cities is inevitable. I think
there's been quite an encouraging pushback against the

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fifteen minutes city plan, certainly in
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of the country. So I don't
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Nor do I think it's inevitable that
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twenty thirty, and I don't think
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So I think you have a tendency
to catastrophize and imagine these things are just

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inevitable if you haven't ready to sort
of wonderful thing that's sort of gone viral

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on social media of Sandy Adams addressing
addressing I think Blastonbury Town Council and explaining,

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explaining to these people who are kind
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of these wonderful cities where they can
people can walk to all the shops they

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need within fifteen minutes and will be
no more congestions. And she explains to

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them that no fifteen minutes cities is
a top down plan which has been planned

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since at least the Rio Earth Summit
in nineteen ninety two. It's it's part

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of a long term agenda by the
people I call the predator class whatever whatever

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you want, the powers that be, the cabal that they want to keep

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us penned into these like prison cells. I mean in Bath that the different

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districts are literally called cells. And
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resistance, but the game plan all
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is top down stuff. This has
been planned at a superun national level,

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and unless people wake up to the
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this is not what people want,
and it's not going to be something

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that people people are going to enjoy
or benefit from, then these things will

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go ahead in the same way that
HS two went ahead, regardless of what

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you remember, how many reports came
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It wasn't going to make any difference
to Britain's transport infrastructure other than you

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do shortening the journey from Birmingham to
London by maybe twenty minutes. But there

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was no desire or need for it, and yet HS two went ahead because

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because the governing class was just following
orders in the same way you've reported on

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the very interesting Maybe we'll talk about
this in the next section. The Global

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Warning Policy Foundation has produced this very
damnage report, one of several ists produced

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over the years into wind turbines by
an Oxford physic business physics professor. Anyway,

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so a proper hard science so he
probably has an idea of what's real

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and what's not real. Damning about
wind turbines, but maybe we should talk

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about that after the after the next
ad, let's do that. So it's

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my turn, let's do applied for
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Boston. Yes. So this is an

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excellent piece of research published by the
Global Warming Policy Foundation on the absolute idiocy

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of imagining that our energy needs currently
provided by oil and gas, can be

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replaced by wind turbines. And he
makes, he makes, he makes a

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variety of very effective points. One
is that the wind speed has to essentially

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be within this kind of Cinderella like
Goldilocks like window, and if it's above

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or if it's below, then they
don't generate any thing like as much electricity

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as we need, and if it's
above then they burn out and don't work

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and have to be switched off.
That's one point. Another point is that

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the batteries we'd need to create in
order to store the power when the wind

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is blowing so we could then use
it when the wind stops blowing is just

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absolutely enormous. It would be,
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something like the gross national product of
the United States spent on just batteries alone.

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And the area which these batteries would
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serve this purpose it is kind of, you know, hundreds of square miles.

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So lots of really good points about
Like I read my favorite bit from

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that because because I've got in front
of me, it is, if the

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wind speed is ten meters per second, about twenty miles an hour, the

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power is six hundred watts per square
meter one hundred percent efficiency. That means

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to deliver the same power. As
Hinckley points c that's the nuclear nuclear power

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station by wind would require five point
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That should be quite unacceptable to those
who care about birds and to other

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environmentalists. But the performance of wind
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look at the simple simple formula shows, Because the power carried by the wind

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depends on the third power of the
wind speed, if the wind drops to

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half speed, the power available drops
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in other words, these turbines have
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Otherwise if if it drops a bit, the actual energy produced decreases exponentially,

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so almost worse. If the wind
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eight times, and as a result
the turbine has to be turned off for

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its own protection. So yeah,
if it's slightly too as you said,

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slightly too windy or not windy enough, that these blades, these these bat

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chomping bird slicing eco crucifixes ceased to
be any good at all. It's outrageous.

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But so my point, which which
I never feel you push far enough,

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But it's true. It's that we've
had this this has been common knowledge

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to anyone who's looked into wind turbines
for the last what a couple of decades.

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I've been writing about it the Late
Christopher book. I used to write

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about it all the time. What
effect has this had on government policy is

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zero? I mean less than zero. They go through with this stuff like

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they went through with HS two,
like they're going through with net zero,

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like they're going through with the with
the war on petrol cars, like they're

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going through with this electric car thing
that they do not care anymore what we

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think. They carry on regardless that
the democratic process is broken. These are

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not answerable to the people. Well, um, I agree that there does

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seem to be an unnerving degree of
cross party consensus about the pursuit of replacing

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oil and gas with so called renewables, and a blind spot about the role

404
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,840
that nuclear power could play, which
is, after all, a renewable.

405
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:27,880
But I don't think that means that
we just have to resign ourselves to the

406
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:32,440
net zero climate alarmist agenda. I
think, you know, let's let's try

407
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,159
and organize, let's try and have
a referendum about net zero, James,

408
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Let's try and persuade the public that
it's not in their interests to immiserate themselves

409
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,599
to pursue this pointless goal, given
that now other countries around the world,

410
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,039
or very few other countries around the
world, including India and China and Brazil,

411
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,599
will be pursuing it, and given
the fact that the link between carbon

412
00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,400
emissions and global warming, to my
mind, at any rate, has yet

413
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to be definitively proved. So I
think, I think there is I think

414
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:09,800
we can. We can fight back. We're fighting back. But I think

415
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,920
you'll, I think you'll. I
think I think we agree about the undesirability

416
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:22,599
of this agenda and the lack of
any robust science behind you know, wind

417
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:27,079
power and other renewables. But what
we disagree about is whether it can be

418
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,920
stopped. I think it can,
but you, you, I think,

419
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,920
are too despairing because the system is
broken. There was no there was no

420
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:42,320
recourse for for the majority who just
actually want to be able to get around

421
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,199
the country drive their cars, who
just want to be able to heat their

422
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:53,559
homes using traditional, cheap, reliable
fossil fuels rather than back chomping, birth

423
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,039
silizing eco purisi bits is it.
It's not an option on the table because

424
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:06,119
the uniparty has decided that karstarma is
rishisnak is is that is the new Hamsa

425
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:12,119
Yusuf. The news talk about that
case in charge of Scotland now in replacing

426
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:19,239
the previous nutcase cranky woman. Yeah
but but actually surely that that that's all

427
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,000
to the good. We should be
celebrating Humsa Yusuf's triumph because there couldn't be

428
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:30,880
a kind of worse exponent of the
separatist cause in Scotland. Nothing, nothing

429
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,920
could be better for Unionism than hums
A Yusuf becoming the leader of the SMP,

430
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:40,599
particularly as there's now likely to be
a legal challenge over the electoral the

431
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,239
integrity of the leadership election, given
that he was always the continuity candidate,

432
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:51,760
and we've now discovered that actually more
of the same might not be a good

433
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719
thing for the SMP because they have
thirty thousand fewer members than was originally claimed

434
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,800
by the now resigned CEO of the
party, also happens to be Nicholas Durgeons

435
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,239
at the beginning of this electoral contest, So you can see there could be

436
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,800
a successful legal challenge and that will
mean having to rerun the leadership contest.

437
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,320
The SMP is now going to be
in turmoil for you know, many months

438
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,559
to come. So this is just
fantastic news. I think it's always could,

439
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,519
may might. Rashi Soon Act says
there may be a case for possibly

440
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,880
consider ring action at some future date, or there could possibly be in the

441
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,599
future some legal action which might delay
the inevitable for a few months. You

442
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:36,199
know, I'm not buying it.
Well, I think better Humsa than the

443
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,119
other two candidates, both of which
I think would have been better. He's

444
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:46,440
just I think Nicholas Sturgeon, although
not as good as Alex Salmond at his

445
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,199
peak, not as skillful a politician, not as good a communicator, nevertheless,

446
00:37:52,599 --> 00:38:00,519
is pretty good. But there's now
been a really significant decline. I

447
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:05,119
think if you compare homes are us
off to Nicholas Urgeon And it's partly the

448
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,639
consequence of running Scotland like a one
party state. You know, um Stalin

449
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,800
is now dead and in order to
preserve his authority, Stalin didn't cultivate any

450
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,840
successes. There isn't any bench strength
in the SMP, just as a very

451
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,039
little in the Labor Party, but
it's particularly apparent in the SMP. They're

452
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:32,800
they're they're they're fishing in a very
shallow talent pool. And I don't think

453
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,639
the party is going to survive.
I think there'll be various splits. And

454
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,760
there's already there are already two separatist
parties in Scotland. I'm sure there'll be

455
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,440
a third one soon. And you
know, it looks like the Separatist cause

456
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,559
is just in its death throws,
which is surely if you're a unionist,

457
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:52,039
a good thing. You're trying to
settle the point of presidency between Allows and

458
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,679
the Free Terms. They're all the
same that they're all they're all used as

459
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,840
they're all these sort of bad actors
who are there to distract us with their

460
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,559
with the despicabled lantics. And that's
it. And no, I mean I

461
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,639
don't. I don't pay attention to
this stuff anymore. It's just a distraction.

462
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:15,119
Okay. Um did you see the
mobbing of Kelly J. Keene in

463
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,559
New Zealand. I don't know if
you saw some of that, which is

464
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:22,920
pretty disturbing. Posy Parker, Yeah, also known as um um uh is

465
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,440
it um? Yeah? Oh god, no I said it a second ago

466
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:34,079
and that slipped out of my moment
anyway, Yes, yes, so it

467
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:38,079
was. It was. It was
yeah, and someone emptied a tomato ketchup

468
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:44,679
bottle over her head and had her
security. Had she not had private security,

469
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:50,440
she might well have been killed,
if not badly injured by by this

470
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,039
particular group of protesters. I mean, they were unbelievably violent, um and

471
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:01,199
um ferrell. And she was immediate
kind of whisked from the scene by the

472
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,239
police and taken to the airport and
put on a plane and sent home.

473
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,880
But I think I thought it was
in some ways a very revealing moment the

474
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:17,159
kind of the woke authoritarians claim to
be, you know, the nice people,

475
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,280
the compassionate people, the people on
the side of inclusion and making people

476
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:30,559
feel safe and accept it. But
beneath that veneer of sweetness there is this

477
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:38,880
brutal, kind of almost fascistic,
authoritarian intolerance of anyone who challenges their dogma.

478
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:42,559
And I thought, yea, the
more often, I mean, well

479
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,320
done for Kelly j Keen for exposing
it, and the more often that can

480
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,960
happen, I think, the the
sooner the kind of woke cults will begin

481
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,320
to recede. But I think that
that is that is the woke cults.

482
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,960
Achilles heel. A lot of people
are attracted to it because they think it's

483
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:02,719
it's um, it's nice. It's
all about making people feel included, about

484
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:12,239
helping disadvantaged minorities, about creating a
more diverse, healthier, more respectful society.

485
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,400
And yet when they see its exponents
engaging in this kind of brutal,

486
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,840
iron fisted censorship, the veil is
whisked aside and they realize it's it's it's

487
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:30,199
a horrible maoist cult, which,
you know, which has very little going

488
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,800
for it. So I thought that
was a great coup on her part,

489
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,840
even though it must have been very
unpleasant to trigger that kind of reaction.

490
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,239
But I think it'll make it it'll
make it harder for the trans rights activists

491
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:51,039
to advance their agenda. Yeah,
I don't know whether this exactly has come

492
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:57,320
from, because I don't really understand
for people of our generation, it's quite

493
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:07,440
difficult to comprehend why a chap would
decide that he wants to be a well,

494
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,760
first of all, that he wants
to be a woman, probably not

495
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,239
not the extent of actually having a
sex change, but just kind of passing

496
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,599
as a woman, because a lot
of them look like blokes. Still don't

497
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:22,519
think blokes interesses, and not only
that, but would then want to get

498
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:28,559
into vicious cat fights, dog fights, depending on what gender they decide they

499
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:34,679
are with women who are actual women, and they get violent. I don't

500
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,039
understand what the mentality of these people
are, and I think that the culture

501
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:44,920
that's encouraged them is repellent. And
by the culture, I mean organizations like

502
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,840
the BBC. I mean in the
days when I used to do mainstream media

503
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,039
stuff, I certainly went on at
least one BBC program where it was me

504
00:42:54,039 --> 00:43:00,960
with some pretty man who was actually
addressed looking like a girl, you know,

505
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:06,199
I mean quite quite nice looking girl, because a lot you know,

506
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,880
these are some of these these men
are um. They have the sort of

507
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:15,639
androgynous looks which which would previously made
them a very good, good gay man.

508
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:20,920
Um and and now they're they've got
this sort of feminine charm and that

509
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,599
the youth on their side. Um
And but these are presented as something more

510
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:30,039
than that, as as as figureheads
for what a sort of new way of

511
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,440
looking at the world, as a
brave, brave movement. They've taken the

512
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,480
great courage to decide that they are, in fact the girl and to go

513
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,760
around a girl, I don't think
it requires much courage. And I don't

514
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,519
understand why they've been promoted, because
it's not like when I when I drive

515
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:51,239
shopping, it's not like everyone look
around me is thinking if only there were

516
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
more transgender people around, if any
we gave them more attention that there there

517
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,239
there are a fraction of a fraction
of a minority in the country, and

518
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,199
yet they've been picked up and to
be something they're not, it's it's it's

519
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:09,639
weird. Yeah, well that In
the most recent UK no I think census

520
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,840
in England and Wales, people were
asked for the first time whether they identified

521
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:22,440
as a gender, which was at
odds with their birth gender, and and

522
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,559
it turned out that only north point
five percent of the population does. But

523
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,880
if he drilled down into the data, some of those were, you know,

524
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,960
the equivalent of sport ballot papers.
It was more like north point four

525
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,519
percent. So no point two percent
trans women, north point two percent trans

526
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:49,199
men. So it's extraordinary. How
you know, politics in Britain, in

527
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,000
America, across the anglosphere has been
poleaxed by this question. You know,

528
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,559
what is a woman? Should trans
women be able to compete? With biological

529
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:02,039
women in women's sport, and should
they be able to enter women's changing rooms,

530
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:06,599
should they be housed in women's prisons. I mean, the political class

531
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,280
has been wrestling with these questions for
something like five years now, and we're

532
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,440
talking about, you know, for
the most part, because it's mainly about

533
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:17,400
trans women, not about trans men, zero point two percent of the population.

534
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,159
I don't know if I mentioned this
before, James, but I wrote

535
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,079
a spectator piece about this and said
that given how successful, you know,

536
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:30,159
the trans lobbyists have been, you
know, every toilet in every institution in

537
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:37,039
the United Kingdom now has essentially been
changed at enormous expense to the taxpayer to

538
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,679
accommodate trans women, even though they
are zero point two percent of the population.

539
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,960
What about men who suffer from shy
bladder syndrome, They surely are a

540
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,119
much higher percentage. The means are
men who can't we if they fear that

541
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,840
other men are overlooking them when they've
got their todgers out much much must be

542
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,840
a much higher percentage of the population
than trans women, and yet they've been

543
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,719
ignored for you know, for millennia. But along come this, this energetic

544
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:10,239
lobby group and suddenly everything changes,
politics is disrupted like it has been by

545
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,400
no other issue in the same sort
of time period. I mean, it's

546
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,639
extraordinary. I suggested in the Spectator
that, you know, they should hire

547
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:22,440
out their services as lobbyists to other
people, other tiny minorities who've been complaining

548
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:28,039
that society hasn't accommodated them. Isn't
isn't isn't making enough of an allowance for

549
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,360
them, like dyslexics, for instance, you know, why not change every

550
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,559
road sign? I mean, the
number of dyslexics must be huge compared to

551
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,880
the number of you know, trans
people. So it is, it is

552
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,840
extraordinary how effective they've been. But
if you look at the activists in New

553
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Zealand, in some of the video
footage, for the most part, the

554
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:52,960
people attacking Kelly J. Keane weren't
trans women. They were big, hulking,

555
00:46:53,079 --> 00:47:01,239
great male allies of the LGBTQ plus
Q community, and and and so

556
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,079
it's sort of like, well,
why why why are they doing that?

557
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,840
Why are they kind of viciously attacking
you know, a single, lone women's

558
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,679
rights campaigner. And it's hard to
suppress the suspicion that actually it's just an

559
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,039
excuse to attack a woman. You
know that they can indulge their kind of

560
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:28,719
most primitive, misogynistic, sadistic impulses
and physically assault a woman in public and

561
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,840
tell themselves at the same time that
they're being virtuous by doing that, they're

562
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,440
performing a useful public service, and
often do it certainly without the interference of

563
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,400
the authorities, if not the blessing
of the authorities. If we saw the

564
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,159
same thing on a similar on a
smaller scale happening in Hyde Park yesterday.

565
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,800
So there was a pro women's rights
protest and it was mobbed by trans rights

566
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,400
allies, trans rights activists and their
allies. But it's the allies, these

567
00:47:55,079 --> 00:48:00,400
vicious unpleasant you know, black masked
men, the people who've been tearing up

568
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,400
cities in France over the past couple
of weeks, over Macron's railroading, through

569
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,440
of the rise in the retirement age
from sixty two to sixty four. It's

570
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:21,159
it's these really unpleasant for the most
part, left wing young men who any

571
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:27,159
excuse to just break things, set
fire to things and attack women. Yes,

572
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,360
um, do you think we should
do another ad before we then let's

573
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:37,639
do another Okay, if you're responsible
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your mortgage. So, James,
have you seen anything, Well I have,

590
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Yeah, I've seen the new the
first episode of Succession. Oh you

591
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,920
have it. I I'm really jealous. So I wanted to watch that yesterday.

592
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:08,679
I thought that in America the debut
was Sunday, but in the UK,

593
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,079
of course, we have to wait
twenty four hours unless you're somebody special,

594
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,079
in which case, so you got
it on DVD or something. I

595
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,840
got it, well, I got
the modern equivalent of DBD, where you

596
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,760
have to go through this incredibly tedious
process to get through the Warner Brothers system.

597
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:30,159
And it took me. It took
me forty five minutes just to pass

598
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:35,079
all the tests to get and then
I couldn't work out how to get the

599
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:38,800
sound properly on my going through the
TV rather than my computer. Well I

600
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,280
did later on, But the point
is that for the first half I was

601
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,159
listening, I was I could barely
hear the dialogue. And you know,

602
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:50,760
we all go death at this age, and you know how important dialogue is

603
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:53,079
on the Succession. I mean,
it's it's it's the thing that makes it

604
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:58,199
so good. Could you not put
the subtitles up. I wouldn't. I

605
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,280
wouldn't have known how to do that. I didn't think I had that option.

606
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,840
But I agree wherever possible I watched
with subtitles me too, And I

607
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,199
think I used to kind of be
slightly hesitant about turning on the subtitles for

608
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,320
fear that it was like, you
know, giving into old age, and

609
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,360
we ought to strain and try and
hear what the characters are saying and not

610
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,239
just kind of take the easy road. But actually, I don't think it's

611
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,440
a generational thing. Even my kids
prefer to watch things now with subtitles totally,

612
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:24,559
I think. And also I think
in the case with Jesse Armstrong,

613
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,599
we have a duty to not missed
any bit of DNA because it is.

614
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,800
It is. Actors these days are
much less better at articulating, aren't there

615
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,239
than than they were because they probably
haven't had the stage training, they haven't

616
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:45,559
been to the RSC and been taught
by whatever her name was, m and

617
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:53,079
Cicily Cicily. Yeah, anyway,
so they mumble anywhere and the joy about

618
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:59,199
succession because I mean, the thing
that one would hate succession session to be

619
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:05,920
is a thing about who inherits a
media empire. But it's not really about

620
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,599
that at all. It's just about
how rich people live, how very very

621
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,840
rich people live, how they get
in and out of helicopters, how they

622
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,760
travel live awhere by private jet,
the sort of thing they get up to

623
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,280
in their private lives, how messed
up they are, which is which is

624
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,440
great? That the business aspect,
you think about it, If if what's

625
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,159
it called Logan Roy, If Logan
Roy were really this titan of of of

626
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:43,239
of media and entertainment that the series
pretends he is, mum, the organization

627
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,840
will be going from strength and strength. But but but actually it's it should

628
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,320
have closed down in season one because
he's just a sort of blustering bully.

629
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,119
His kids are all absolutely useless.
And when it when it gets sort of

630
00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:05,079
gets farmed out to somebody like the
Matthew mcfaddian character Tom Tom Warms. Have

631
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:08,599
you pronounced it surname or Greggy?
Yeah. The idea that that branches of

632
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:14,800
this supposedly world beating company are being
run by the likes of Greg and Tom

633
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,320
is just absurd. But I love
that about it. It's not really about

634
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,239
business. It's about snappy dialog and
helicopters. Yeah, I mean, I

635
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,159
absolutely love it too, and I
agree, you know, you don't want

636
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:32,679
to miss a word of the writing
because it's so good. But one of

637
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,719
the reasons it's I think I think
the reason people like it isn't why they

638
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,480
or the reason they think they like
it isn't the real reason they like it.

639
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:45,519
I think the reason they think they
like it is because they style themselves

640
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:52,920
radical critics of you know, late
stage capitalism and the neoliberal globalist agenda,

641
00:53:53,280 --> 00:54:00,239
and they like this kind of waspish, acidic portrait of our kind of media

642
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,239
overlords. But actually the real reason
they like it, I think, is

643
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:12,079
not because it kind of they think
it's going to ferment revolution. They like

644
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:19,119
it because they can kind of reassure
themselves that these unbelievably rich and privileged people

645
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,280
are actually really unhappy, and that
being this powerful, this successful, this

646
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:31,360
rich, having this kind of access
to power and celebrities is actually just a

647
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,800
recipe for lifelong misery. And I
think it's sort of a source of comfort.

648
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,519
It comforts the afflicted by making them
feel that they're better off, you

649
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:46,079
know, not being part of that
ghastly corrupt three ring circus. So it's

650
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:50,760
I think there is a slight disconnect
between why people think they like it and

651
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
why they applaud it, and what
the real reason it appeals to them so

652
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:58,480
much. I don't know. I
don't get that that vibal fit. I

653
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:04,599
mean, obviously they're all deeply messed
up and repellent, but it's not I

654
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,880
don't really feel that it's selling us
the message that, look, you can

655
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,840
be you can have all the money
in the world and still be unhappy.

656
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,840
I think it it makes a very
attractive case for being fantastically rich, that

657
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:23,320
the life they lead is amazing,
the locations are sumptuous that you don't you

658
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,639
don't watch Succession and thinking, oh, I'm so much happier with my impoverished

659
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,719
life. So I'm not sure.
I quite quite by the thesis that they're

660
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:38,199
they're messed up independently of their of
their their helicopters and mansions, and I

661
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,559
think I think I think part of
their being messed up is is they're all

662
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:47,519
scrabbling for kind of a slice of
the pie and to fill Logan Roy's shoes

663
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:52,320
when he eventually shuffles off his mortal
core. That's one of the slightly implausible

664
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880
things about the series is like,
you know, you could see the premise

665
00:55:55,119 --> 00:56:00,159
of the show in the title is
Who's going to succeed Logan Roy? And

666
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,679
he was sort of dying and about
to kick his clogs in season one,

667
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,719
and and because it was so successful, they've decided to kind of extend his

668
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,239
life. Definitely, he's made a
complete recovery by the looks of it,

669
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,480
hasn't he. I don't know.
I haven't watched the whole of Verse.

670
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,639
You're right, I mean, I
think episode one, season one, he

671
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
was on his last legs, and
his legs he has an episode and you

672
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,119
think, well, is he going
to survive the night? And probably Jesse

673
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,760
Armstrong when he had the first series
commission, was by no means certain there

674
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,559
was going to be another one.
Yeah, so, but this happens with

675
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:39,280
all this series, doesn't doesn't it? If they can squeeze out another three?

676
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Yeah, I was slightly when Brian
Cox is getting on a bit,

677
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,280
I was slightly worried that the actor
might die before they killed off the character,

678
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,800
and then they'd be going to pick
up. Well, he's killed himself

679
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,960
now I think he's I think he's
designed. He doesn't want to do anymore.

680
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,119
This is the last season, isn't
it? Yea? It is?

681
00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Which is which is really sad because
I don't think it really mattered the um

682
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,880
the story arc about whether or not
who gets to inherit the company, because

683
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,119
it's not about that, it's about
the parties. You think about all the

684
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:15,039
memorable, the really memorable moments of
succession apart from the dialogue that any scene

685
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:20,480
involving Greg and Tom, who are
the real stars because it's just common because

686
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:24,800
I don't think Jesse Armstrong's really interested
in in big business really what he likes

687
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,199
is there's a great scene I don't
want to spoil it for you too much,

688
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:38,039
but where Greg Greg shags somepathy that
he's brought along to Logan Roy's party

689
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:45,400
and then and then he is advised
by by Tom that he needs to fess

690
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:51,119
up to Logan because it would have
been recorded on security camera. Is it's

691
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:55,559
just just ridiculous but really really funny. So that those scenes, and then

692
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,400
there are the set pieces, and
I still think the best set piece was

693
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,639
the the Mother the Harriet Water at
Eastern Or Castle party when Greg is trying

694
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,320
sorry, Um Kendall is trying to
score some drugs and he goes off with

695
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,360
one of the way to and it
ends up inadvertently drowning this guy. But

696
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,039
the whole it's so well done.
All that or the boar, Yeah,

697
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,960
I love it. I think it's
I think it's one of the best things

698
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,480
I've ever seen on TV. It's
up there with I think it's a top

699
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:30,199
top top six shows of all time. Um. So I had a rather

700
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:36,159
less happy experience. I watched I've
watched the first two episodes of the Night

701
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Is It the the Oh God,
I think it's called The Night Watchman,

702
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:46,079
um, but that can't be right. That now doesn't sound right. It's

703
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,880
it's a new a new series.
No, it's a new series on Netflix

704
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,559
and it's called the It's I think
it's called The Night Manager, um,

705
00:58:54,639 --> 00:59:00,320
and it's I know it was it. It's got the same name as I

706
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,920
think it's got the same name as
the Lacari series. But it's actually about

707
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:10,239
a kind of low level FBI agent
who picks up the phone when he's kind

708
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:16,199
of manning the phone in this kind
of operations emergency center, and he's contacted

709
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:21,239
by this young woman in distress and
he has to go and kind of rescue

710
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,679
her. And in the course of
rescuing her kind of stumbles across this kind

711
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:30,400
of conspiracy involving the FBI, the
Secret Service, the President, and I

712
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,519
thought it sounded, I like those
kind of paranoid, you know, three

713
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:40,519
Days of the Condall style conspiracy thrillers, and so I kind of leapt on

714
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:45,400
it. But it's quite it's it's
it's quite kind of low brow, and

715
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,519
it's at the lower end of that
kind of conspiracy thriller spectrum. I think

716
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,119
White Rabbit, Sorry, rabbit Hole
sounds more promising. And if you've seen

717
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:59,679
any trailers Rabbit Now, is that
on Netflix as well? No, that's

718
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:01,480
on Paramount Plus, and I think
it's tipped me over the edge. Your

719
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:07,320
praise of the Tulsa King plus the
fact that you can get all the series

720
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:13,199
of Yellowstone as well as the two
prequels on Paramount Plus and now Rabbit Hole

721
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,920
as well, I think has made
me think I'm going to subscribe to yet

722
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,239
another streaming service. But I don't
know whether to subscribe to UK Paramount Plus

723
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,280
or US Paramount Plus, and I
don't even know if there's any difference between

724
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,599
them, but I can I can
subscribe to either one because of my setup.

725
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:34,840
Here. I think that when when
the accountants unravel my estate, they're

726
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,440
going to find that the reason I
went bankrupt is because of all these TV

727
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,239
sets I've signed up to and then
forgotten about, and they've been on Direct

728
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Deva ever since, because I'm certainly
signed up to Paramount plus I think I'm

729
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,960
signed up to Disney Apple TV.
Or do I pay for that? Probably?

730
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,360
I don't know. Probably do if
you watch Slow Horses and I never

731
01:00:54,519 --> 01:01:00,480
remember to claim my expenses from the
spectator, who would probably completely tight ask

732
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:04,280
anywhere about about paying out for this
stuff even though they should. Um,

733
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:09,280
but yeah, it's it's expensive.
But if we've got the excuse that we've

734
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,599
got culture Corner and I'm a TV
critic, so I have to watch this

735
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:16,280
stuff, quite a good excuse.
Yeah. The rabbit Hole looks quite promising,

736
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,320
doesn't it. It's a it's another
paranoid conspiracy for I like the title.

737
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,239
It could be about me, couldn't
it. It could be? Yeah,

738
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,559
And but I think I think it. I think it's probably closer to

739
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:32,159
Team James than Team Toby recent events. Judging from the trailer Keith of Sutherland's

740
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,840
in it Charles Dance, it looks
it looks looks pretty highbrowd, well not

741
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,000
high brow, but it looks looks
to be of higher quality, bigger budget,

742
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,920
better writing than The Night Manager.
Yeah, I think I think I'm

743
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,119
going to watch that. That's next
on my list. Okay, well,

744
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,280
that's the only new thing I've watched
I think since we last spoke. I've

745
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:58,000
just started listening to I've finished Sharp's
Waterloo and have started listening to Royal Flash,

746
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,119
which is the second in the Flashman
novels by George McDonald Fraser. And

747
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,360
it's very good. It's very funny. He's a very good writer, George

748
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,280
McDonald Fraser, he is um sorry. Can I ask you a question about

749
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:17,079
Trollop? Yes? Did you listen
to the first in the Palliser series?

750
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,360
Yes? I did? Can you
can you forgive her? Yes? Do

751
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,960
you share my irritation with I think
the hunting scenes are fantastic. I think

752
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:37,599
that his portrait of the pursuit of
money and the class system is matchless.

753
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:44,400
But his central characters are just diet. You're not rooting for any of them.

754
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,519
I mean that stupid girl, what's
he called? Alice? She's a

755
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:58,840
pain and George Vavason, he's a
pain. Um, the mister Pallas or

756
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,639
whatever his name is, he's a
ball. The flighty girl, the heiress

757
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:07,960
he marries him, she's just a
bit of a dipstick. Um, I'm

758
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,199
not rooting for any of these people. I don't really care about them.

759
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Yeah, I think he's well,
I think I think he was a pretty

760
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:23,119
fearful snob and you do need,
I think, to share his snobbish fascination

761
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:30,400
with the kind of most glamorous,
richest, aristocratic, kind of class of

762
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:34,280
his era. But I love all
that. It's just the character. It's

763
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,519
just the characters, Like what's her
motivation? That? Why? Why should

764
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:45,559
we care about this girl who can't
make up her mind whether to marry this

765
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,719
boring man in Cambridge with with a
nice house and a nice garden, or

766
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,800
whether to marry this kind of tosser
with a scar across his face. He

767
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,840
doesn't who doesn't really love He just
wants some money for his his stupid political

768
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:02,800
career. Well, I mean,
what kind of heroine is that? Give

769
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:10,320
me give me Lizzie Bennett any day? Or she was too too passive and

770
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:16,119
just kind of the plaything of the
combination of of of sort of passivity,

771
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:25,440
high mindedness, indecision. Just I
couldn't recognize her as a as a as

772
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,360
a human type, or certainly not
a type that I wanted to spend in

773
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:34,000
time with. That's that's interesting.
I don't recall being particularly irritated by the

774
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:38,800
central characters. I do remember the
hunting scene, and I think his depiction

775
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,840
of it was only one the English
class system or the hunting scenes. But

776
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:49,119
but yeah, I mean I thought
I thought the Heiress was kind of quite

777
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,400
sympathetic. She is a bit flighty, and she makes some terrible errors of

778
01:04:54,519 --> 01:05:00,719
judgment. She's initially dazzled, isn't
she by this kind of good looking young

779
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,679
swain. He turns out to be
a complete loser and less impress I mean,

780
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:10,400
always the kind of running theme in
fact, of all Trollops novels.

781
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:15,199
I mean, they always have this
kind of uh they're essentially romantic comedies,

782
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:17,079
aren't they. And it's all about, you know, whether the woman will

783
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:20,280
choose the right man over the wrong
man, in the same way that Jane

784
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,920
Austen's novels are about the same thing. Um. But but you know,

785
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,920
it's always about not being dazzled by
the you know, exterior, not judging

786
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,719
a book by its cover, but
but kind of being able to see that

787
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:41,400
the kind of duller quarter is is
the more honorable, more worthy partner than

788
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,400
the kind of dazzling young blade.
But that that's sort of I mean,

789
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,679
I quite like this is sort of
you know, it's it's one of the

790
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,880
kind of five great plots, but
I quite like it. I'm always kind

791
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,599
of sucked in, and I'm always
kind of willing the female character to kind

792
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:58,400
of choose the nice man and not
run off with the bad one. And

793
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,679
when when when my wife first read
War War in Peace as as a young

794
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:10,079
woman, she just skipped as a
teenager, she skipped past all the war

795
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:14,360
pits because she's probably been boring,
although she later she did appreciate the later

796
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,559
on when she reread the book.
But I feel I feel a bit like

797
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:19,480
that with Trollop, that I just
want to read the hunting scenes and the

798
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,960
kind of the ball scenes maybe and
just skip past the romance which is just

799
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:30,400
tedious. But I remember that the
next one in the series, which is

800
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,480
about I think the central character is
an Irish politician, and there's I remember

801
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:42,320
there's even more hunting in number two
in the Palliser series. So you've got

802
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,480
that to look forward to. James, that's good. I should I should

803
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,599
probably go now because it's my largest
approach in only two it's in Project before

804
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:51,360
I go. So okay, all
right, well good, good to talk

805
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to you as always, and next
week I would have seen episode one of

806
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Successions as well. Give me your
unique take. Well okay, okay,

807
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cool right apply then it's London Poling. Ricochet join the conversation