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Hey, folks, welcome to the
end of day two e three, twenty

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eleven. Here at the Giant Barnhouse. Let's give a great big round applause.

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Excellence, excellent. Stop clapping the
microphone, Eric Pope, I said,

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I said that round of applause,
not round of Mike applause, much

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better. Let's let's take you around
the room, introduce you to who we

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have on the couch for for the
opening hour. Here, mister Bradley Shoemaker.

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Hi, holdo laptop in hand.
You're gonna be cruising through the chat

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for a little bit. So if
you're watching this live joan bomb dot com

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slash chat questions to me, questions
to Bradley, Mister Eric Poe from Harmonics.

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Alright, hello is here. Hi, I'm here, guys. I

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made it Justin McElroy from Joystick and
my brother, my brother and me.

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Hi everybody, Sorry, I'm not
skinning here. We've got Mike Wilford and

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Dan Teesdale on on either ends of
this couch here from Twisted Pixel and making

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a beautiful sandwich out of mister John
Drake from Harmonics. How's it going,

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Johnny and and Mike Dan? Thank
you guys. So much for for making

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some time to come out and hang
out our Crumby house. So I actually

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want to talk to you guys first
off, because kind of big surprising news

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out of E three yesterday was the
shift for a Gun Stringer from an XBLA

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title to a full blown Connect retail
title. He talked us a little bit

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about like what, like how that
came to be and like what that you

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know, what what started that process? Yeah, it was kind of cool.

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We just you know, we were
shoot shooting for the March April time

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frame and releasing the what we thought
it was gonna be, like the first

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XPLA Connect game, and then Microsoft
had like an executive retreat, like Bomber

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was there and like Don Mattrick and
Phil Spencer all these guys went out and

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we're just checking out stuff, and
Stuart Platt, my producer over at Microsoft,

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went over and demoed the game for
them, and I guess they were

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looking at it and thought that it
was as good or better than some of

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the stuff they had coming out,
you know, and the the time frame

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that we were looking at like September, so like like better than Dance Central

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two. They're like like, this
is what we're riding on this holiday.

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Oh man, we need like a
like a game, no, like a

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game video game like yeah, yeah, yeah, so so we we had

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some theories around the house of of
you know, it was it was just

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a matter of we can't compress all
of this FMV to fit it into the

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two gig limitation for for for an
XPLA game. But it's opened the door

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for us to add so much more
FMV in now, so, so I

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mean, yeah, I guess that's
the question. Y know, what does

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this due to the to the scope
of the game for you guys? Actually,

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the scope's increased a little. We
added like an extra play to the

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game that wouldn't have made it in
otherwise. But you know, we pushed

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really hard on Microsoft, like we
want the extra time just to polish and

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make the game better because we feel
like we haven't really had ever been able

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to do that on a project before. Just take our time to polish a

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game as much as we can.
So excellent. So, I mean kind

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of the big question making that shift
then is you know, what is this

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due to price point for you guys? Yeah, I don't think we're supposed

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to be talking about that yet.
And go ahead, go ahead. We

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have we have your PR person right
off camera here. You'll give you that

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all right thumbs up from PR.
So just go ahead. And actually,

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yeah, I think it's still influx
a little bit. So I can't say,

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but there's we're making sure that on
our end, we're doing whatever we

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can, like make sure that there's
enough content there to make it worthwhile.

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So we're doing some some cool things, you know, to make sure that

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it's gonna be worthwhile. It's not
gonna be just like a fifteen dollars xpla

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game being charged like fifty bucks.
It's not gonna happen. It's eight dollar.

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It comes on a really big cart. It's like, well, you

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know, we had to spend more
on the sixty four make a big cart,

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so you know, throw a little
extra in there. Also, it's

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a Halo game now seven part series. Who saw that your trilogy starting to

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before? So, so how's your
show going so far? Good? It's

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really good. We have like four
demo stations you know that we're using for

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like playing the game for people,
but there's only three of us from Twist

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Pixels. What's kind of crazy trying
to cover four stations. But uh yeah,

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other than the insanity, it's really
good. I think the line today

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for gun stringers like over an hour
and a half for people just play the

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game's awesome. That's manly because I'm
just really slow at double wing and I

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still break some leaf people hanging around, But you do get to sit,

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give your mos I was thinking,
like, I'm never gonna make a game

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way the unique selling point isn't you
don't you get to sit because it makes

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it for the most easiest E three
ye that you're like, oh, let

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me just show off sittings like in
this game exactly. Oh man, during

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E three, sitting is at such
a damn premium. And anytime you have

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that opportunity whatever, like going into
the backs of booths and it's like,

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Okay, we're gonna demo this game, and we have like this special room

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off to the side. We're gonna
go in and then I'm gonna stand there

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in front of the TV. I'm
like, just let's drag that TV over

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here, because there's a couch on
the other side of this room. But

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you're gonna make me stand here.
But in their defense, how many times

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have you gone into a dark room
and sat down and fall asleep. That's

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also like that's the danger of all
the theater stuff. It's like it was

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like you've been running around the floor. It's like, okay, we're gonna

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take in the back room, turn
all the lights off. It's super air

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conditioned, and it's like the game
could be the most interesting thing in the

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world, and you're just like,
all right, I canna sit and watch

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and you're just gone, just just
fall away. But that doesn't happen.

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That's not a problem for you.
John Drake showing off Dan Central two.

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No, you can't sit down.
We don't what how my line's been?

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Yeah, you have then always I
memorize them all. They're great, like

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an hour and a half, Like
I like this, we don't. I

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mean it's a quicker I think it's
a quicker experience. I actually watched some

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of the gun Stringer demos today and
we were with up in the retail experience.

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So I want to talk about this. I didn't get your way I

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was making I want to talk about
this, this retail experience thing, this

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weird shadow e three that exists.
So there's two shadowy threes. Yes,

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yeah, there's the financial one financially
through everyone's like showing a two and a

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half second trailer. I mean,
like give me twenty million dollars to like

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make this game to publishers. And
that's the Business E three. Well there's

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that. There's also like the weird
Investor E three, but that's imaginary because

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none of them know what's going they're
just making it up. How much are

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they paying you to say that it
doesn't exist? But okay, so then

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there's three shadowy threes. I mean
there's three shadowy threes. Is E three

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itself become a shadowy three? That's
a real question. But so I would

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say there's the biz deav, the
BIZ three, the Investory three, and

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then the Sales E three and the
SALESZ three I think is probably the worst

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E three. Okay, So but
although we have a cool room, so

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we're actually we're both in the Microsoft
Retailer, which is actually really nice.

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But they basically create like a mini
store experience. It's like a it's like

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a small best Buy with like all
Microsoft products and branding and any like floor

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demonstration gap. So we have like
a dance Central two one with like a

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light up floor and there's like an
end cap while you're seeing the end of

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a bunch of shells with the gun
stringing it with some gunstringer branding, and

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it's like it's cool in summerspects you
things like, oh, the retailer is

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going to come in and see there's
this cool stuff. I want to put

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that on my shells and buy a
bunch of units. And that's what it's

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supposed to be like that, and
we're supposed to be there to be like

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show them the game, get them
excited, but they don't give a shit.

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They come in there like I don't
know about that color, and I

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think that we let herself. At
one point, like there was Gears of

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Three stand up on top of all
the consoles, the demo consoles, and

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the guys from an unnamed retailer from
the South, Uh, yeah, I

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want to get a good look at
this. And he just walked up and

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took it off the top and like
ripped this child down the floor. I

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was like, it's not that tall. I was like, it was taller

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when it was on top of he
moved it. Perspective Fay tell people also

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don't get that the connect is a
camera. So if you want in front

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of it repeatedly, it sort of
fucks things up. So this is what

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we did today. So they were
I was watching them give a demo because

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the folks who came through, who
we were all waiting for it to the

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end of the day, and then
they sort of blow us off. Actually,

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like only stopped and watched Gunstringer out
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sports was there. We were there, and they walked all the way around.

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I guess they sort of like got
stuck, and like two of them

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were really excited about gunstring and the
rest of them were all sort of like

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watching him like We're like, this
is something. And one woman who was

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interested in it at first, got
distracted by like a phone call and then

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like just forgot that there was a
game going on and kept walking in between

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him and the camera. She stopped
in the middle of his demo and just

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like stared at her phone and looked
up. I guess that she left and

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he was like I started about it. Then she came back through and broke

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it again and it was awful.
Yeah, it was so that Shadowy three

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number three, shadow e three three, Shadowy Shadowy three Shadow three three.

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I'm turning my gaze over to Eric
Pope. What do you do during the

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three? So I usually handle the
talent that shows up at E three and

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glad hand. Does that mean wait, wait, wait, hold on,

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by talent, do you mean like
I'm just gonna I'm gonna pluck a name

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out of the air here, like
sugar Knight. Yes, okay, well

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that was a pretty good yes.
Yes, show me your Sugar Night's story

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right like hours, like within the
past few hours, five hours, thirty

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three hours ago. I'm a Sugar
Knight? Is that? Is that how

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he introduced? He said, my
name Sugar Night Squad. So here's how

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it went. Actually, Sugar Night
Instein and the huge and European giant black

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Man. So we're at our stage, our other community manager, Aaron Traitz,

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and I are just standing there and
uh, this very very large man

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shows up and I say to Aaron, who is this Sugar Night looking motherfucker?

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And He's like, I don't know, fucking guy. And then all

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of our dancers who work in house
there are choreographers, we brought them out

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here. They go, hey,
pup, I'm gonna dance for Sugar Night

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and now watch yeah right, I
know right. So I'm like okay,

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so I sort of sidled over to
this gigantic man. I'm like, oh,

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hey, how are you doing.
He's like, hey, how are

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you? And he's like soft spoken, very nice, very and then like

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he's talking to me, he's like, oh, what's the what's the deal

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with this game? He actually asked
me, so, what's the deal?

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They dance and for people in front
of him dancing, and there's two screens

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behind with people dance and it's called
dance. Same. Shouldn't I ask you

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a question? You shut the You're
not gonna give him any sash there.

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He's gonna hang off the Balcony's exactly. I've rather to mention. This entire

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scene was me hanging off of balcony. I don't know what does it look

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like to you? Essential? So
they do their dance and he's asked me

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questions like yeah, we're based in
Boston. These are all choreographers, and

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he thought it was actually really cool, which was neat. And then he's

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like what's your what's your name?
Man? Like, Oh, I'm Eric.

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He's like, oh cool. I'm
shuged and they shook my hand.

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I know that you're shug but you're
shaking. It was awesome. I swear

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to God. And I don't know
why this is the thing, but when

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he shook my hand, it felt
like fire. I God, it was

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burning hot. I would face to
face with the devil and he didn't murder

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me. Spoilers. Uh yeah.
Turned to Aaron and he's like, I

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think yeah. So I gave him
a card, told him I could hook

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him up with the game and asked
him please not to murder me. That's

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true. I swear it again.
And this is and this has been the

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beginning of a sugar night to remember. Yeah. This this followed immediately after

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I went to we did we did
this fun on on Jeff Keely's TV show

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The Jig, And we went there
and the guys from we know some the

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guys were Spikes, used to work
in MTV. And so we're in the

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green room waiting. We're waiting to
do an interview and demo the games,

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last thing we're doing other day,
and we're super sex to be done and

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they just come in there like get
out of the green room and we're like,

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uh what uh and get up.
We used to get out of the

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green right now, find a seat
and just go just get out. I

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don't go and I was like,
what are we gonna die? What's everything?

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And I walked past Jeff. He
just comes up station. Jeff goes,

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oh, yeah, has T Pain
here? I was like, nope,

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if you're actually asking me, like, that's a stupid question. I

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don't know why would be here?
That a code name, He's like,

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not Tea Paint's coming and depains is
like Saunders in with eighteen people. Sure

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proceeds to go on camera and talk
about like I don't know what. He's

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like, yeah, I thought up
and I don't know. He's like he

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has headphones. Yeah, headphones.
I don't know. He was on TV

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like during the Big Headphone b E
three things like yeah, here we've got

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T Paint talking bad headphones. Yeah, And it was weird. And then

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at the end of it they're like, Jeff Kealey, you know, wonderful

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networking Maven that he is, Yeah, hey, you want They're gonna play

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Dan Central, They're gonna play a
song you want? You want to you

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want to dance with them? And
we knew the answers now, but do

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you want to dansw with them?
When I get out there and he's like,

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oh, I saw you doing and
someone's like, oh, I'm playing

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Nicki minajh mass of tacos. That's
all sucks a sorry we don't have your

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Miami Dolphins themes. Something you don't
know that's is that coming up soon?

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Or yeah? Yeah confirmed different eras
you just look at it straight in the

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eye, say well, you have
comparatively cold hands, so he probably does

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have like dead cold days. Yeah, oh, brand shoemaker, how's the

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chat doing? I had I had
to close my browser. I'm sorry,

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A really bad time for you to
ask that. It's really bad time for

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you to be on the couch right
now. You're killing me here justin McElroy,

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Hey, how you doing? I'm
so tired. But it was an

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excellent day two of E three for
us. I had a lot of fun,

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saw a lot of cool shit.
What have you seen today at the

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show? That is of note.
I saw the new Sherlock Holmes game.

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Yeah we hold on, let's let's
let's pump the brakes on this for a

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second, so as opposed to the
old Sherlock Holmes game. Yeah, check

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this apparently Sherlock Homes six guy looked
me dead in the eye, I said,

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And this is, of course,
this is my generic Eastern European accent.

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I'm not sure this is already Comes
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them since two thousand and one homes
Sex. So this guy he tells Sherlock

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Holmes, and it's the first one
they're sort of making specifically for consoles.

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Jack the fifth Sholock Comes five s
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it, Shift the e is a
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sixty. It was sort of a
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with console gammers in mind, because
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first five games, and the audience
was Dwindlings Comes six from you only played

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at the curves. So this guy
he's talking to me about, I'm already

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like having a complete panic attack realizing
been making shock Homes games for a decade.

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The game actually looks kind of neat. I mean, it looks comparable

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with Moost console games in an adventure
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dialogue, wheels and hunting for clues
and stuff. But this guy starts talking

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about about the plot of Sherlock Holmes
and he says, so what you're coming

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to discover is Sherlock Holmes uh is
a very exactly very dark. He's very

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he gets gets dirty with these interrogations. He's doing weird things, doing crimes

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until up until the point where he's
he's killed. He killed somebody, and

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then he, uh, if you're
gonna play this game, turn your radio

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down for the next like two minutes
and Sherlock those gets want to kill somebody

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and his friend, doctor Watson has
to raise firearms against him and he shoots

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Sherlock Holmes and kills him. Oh
my god. Then you finished the game

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with John Watson. He says he
first ten minutes of No, this is

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about ten hours there. How batter
to tell me all the ship that and

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like if they just fu what do
you do with shraw Homes seven? That

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is exactly what I said, How
do you make Seawan Home seven? And

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he says that you will have to
wait and see. I like, what

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do you think about it? If
he told me about that before, I

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would have been like, hey,
yeah, fuck you. I'm on the

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edge of my sad. I can'tnot
wait until this game goes out. I

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have to find out Sky. Yeah. I say that only because finding rolling

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homes. What the consoles are consoles? This coming sixteen and mabps three.

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He wouldn't tell me that, but
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I feel bad. We've now ruined
this. We've we've introduced it to an

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entire audience. This series has existed
for a decade, and they've ruined the

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entire thing. These these highs and
lows, just these swings are too hard,

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man, I can't. And the
worst part about it was I was

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in there with two finished dudes who
were looking at non the long but he

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knew they were, like, yes, yes, I played. I played

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five like a half dozen times.
Sure, I had to get the really

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good ending, so you know,
finished. People don't make a game where

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the hero doesn't die two thirds of
later. It's a trope at this boy's

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like barrels and wait, what was
this barrels and c puzzles. Sorry,

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I'm kind of breaked out. I
just got out there five understand. You're

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right, You're right, So wait, hold on. That was supposed to

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be your finish accents. What No, I don't finish. I wouldn't be

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able to distinguish between Okay, yeah, you're thinking he was generically Eastern European

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Middle Eastern. I thought you said
no, that sounded Middle Eastern. Wo

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No, that's the racist No,
yeah, racism, car I guess.

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Sorry, I'm on the field to
Eric Foe except five yard penalty. That

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accent was Middle Eastern. I'm sorry, yeah, no, wait what what

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what publisher? Like? What short
fucking straw did you pull that? It

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was like, yeah, okay,
justin you gotta go and check out the

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it was. It was Focused Home
Interactive was the publisher and the developers.

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I guess Charlott Homes. I'm guessing. The other thing I saw there was

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actually really cool. It was called
Rotastic and it is a it's coming to

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XBLA PSN i've never heard of before, coming to XBLA in September. Sort

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of a action puzzle game. I
guess where you there's a single screen and

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there's a bunch of pegs, and
your character has a grappling hook and as

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you're falling, if he's within range
of grappling hook, you press a.

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He shoots it out and starts spinning
around the thing and there are he can

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you know, let's go at the
right moment, use the inertia to go

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to the next peg, and he
catches trying to collect gems to get points.

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So it's kind of like Star Drone. Yeah, it's it's a move

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game, and it's it's all like
the kind of you know, you get

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like like the rotational momentum that you're
flying off and trying to like aim towards

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other past bonus points for doing certain
maneuvers, like if you can pull off

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a figure eight, you'll get bonus
points. Fat It's got a like trap

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ups in different puzzles and stuff like
like you as you spin you generate a

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shield that can protect you from traps. So there's also this element of trying

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to get on and build up your
shield before the trout comes. And there's

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also a up to four player online
or couch co op where four people are

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swinging around doing this and if you
connect to the same peg as your buddy,

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but with a tighter the shorter rope, then as you spin around,

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you'll cut his rope and just send
him flying. So it's madness basically four

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people spinning around, cutting each other's
ropes and and getting gems. It's it

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looks great. Sounds like Eric his
rope cut by Chug Night earlier much pretty

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much just put his hands on the
rope and it just sens a player.

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Yea. His other hand was covered
in Biggie smells blood. That was really

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bad. Uh, Pope, you
anything else fun today? Meeting the devil.

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So the micro saw booth is crazy. They have really weird people milling

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about. There's a storage closet where
we keep our crap, and we were

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dropping our crap off and in the
room directly next to the storage closet was

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Hulk hogan Ya sitting in a waiting
room by himself, like cold dead eyes

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like wait, he wasn't wearing sunglasses. No, it was so scared and

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his hot dog colored skin and just
like a broken man. Yeah, and

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and his murder or son was with
him. So I've seen two murderers and

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two days. This is actually how
Pope greeted me after the like we closed

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a little boost down and went up
to the VIP area. Pope comes to

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me, guess what I saw two
murderous today? Yeah. I don't usually

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see that many murders that you know
of right the dance Central. So that's

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always always the weird thing, Like
when you walk into booths during E three,

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like you know, just you random
like oh randomly see weird ass celebrities,

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and I have to imagine that that's
that happens more often and and in

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a weirder context for you guys demoing
the games of you know, especially with

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you Gunstringer and and Dan Central two
of just random ass people and anyone other

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than than te Pain that you ran
into today, John Draca. Today it

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was pretty mellow because I was in
that retail room, which is like,

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you know, the the limbo between
society and hell where I was trapped for

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a couple of hours. But the
this makes been pretty Spielberg was walking around,

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the Spieler was walking around. I
heard all the buzz about the Spielberger,

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the Spielburglar. I don't know,
it hasn't been that talent filled up

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any three. I mean, like
but also looking at the press commences,

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like other than Kobe Bryant, like, was there anyone who was super now

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everyone kind of everyone kind of said
like no, we're not gonna, you

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know, do that. And then
immediately Kobe Bryant and until Kobe Bryant count

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and was super awkward iced Tea right, but like iced to being in a

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Gears three thing is like it's like
he's in MVV being Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, that's what from ye really
wait really he was playing Batman today.

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It was Douggie Doug there too.
I saw Greg Grunberg in the back of

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the two K booth just like similar. But yeah, Zachary Levi, that's

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right, that's right. He don't
like drink. When his entrege knocked my

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drink when I was eating lunch,
we saw House once my drink up.

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We saw we saw Snoop Dogg playing
rage. Well, that was my theory

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as to why Sugar was there.
He's still trying to murder Snoop. He's

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just been tailing him for fifteen years. There's a whole U Star, like

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the U Stars, a plot to
Don't you want to explain a lot about

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this. The Snoop dog involvement in
U Star is the weirdest fucking thing,

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know what I mean? I know, I know some of that money Snoop

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dog will be involved in anything.
Some of the folks MeTV Games have made

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their way over into that project,
and it seems like a similar Okay,

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good teams, good people, good
people like him a lot, no hard

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doing great. The best MTV people
I have ever met were from MTV so

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that sounds like sarcasm down I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna call you on this

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one. Totally not sarcastic. Actually, some people live a couple of people

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here there the impenetrable accent of sarcastic. What's going on? Four years of

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that, Bratt Shoemaker, sir,
have we gotten back into the chat?

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We figured this shit out? Yes? Uh, friend of the site buzz

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Click wants you and Justin to do
an Australian accent off officiate. So it

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seems like, oh man, I
don't know. I'm kind of freaked out.

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He demanded on the being demanded on
the spoil. It's to be an

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Are you trying to get me to
leave you cold? Just like tell me

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to leave you leave? You'd have
been deported on it. I've always saw

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Dan as one of the more disappointing
Australian accents. It's just it's not it's

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not the accent. Has anyone else
noticed, like Peter Moore's English accent really

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fading away, like he's just barely
still got a whole less for a couple

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of years, Like I've I've got
this weird mix of like busting plus Australia

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plus English plus whatever. Now you're
in Texas and that's not just gonna get

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really weird. Yeah, people just
have no idea where I'm from. Let's

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hear it. Let's hear it.
I already didn't mind. You should get

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another one. Oh boy, Yes
it's hard. I just did my Australian

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accent. Australia's in Eastern Europe,
right, it's put this ship on Bobby

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good Deals. They go and welcome
out. I think that they. I

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was asked to do that because my
my accents are always uh not, maybe

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not the highest quality. Little my
Eastern European and Michael Caine, let's make

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love Michael Kane. Let's hear your
Michael Caine shit. He said that's your

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wanting good accent. Let's hear it. It's gonna be so good. I

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don't have a good Michael Kine.
I just picked him out. He's not

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gonna do it. He should not
grows a beard. That's what he does.

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He doesn't talk to you. He
grows a giant as a Hayes beard.

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Brad can kick me. More questions. Somebody asked a question. Nobody's

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asking questions, Okay, yelling each
other and ask this podcast is born,

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we're all gonna talk to each other. I learned something about Spielberg because he

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was you know, playing uh playing
some gun stringer with his son Max,

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and and Max really dug it.
So he came out and you know,

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Phil Spencer introduced me to Max and
he was just telling us about the game.

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It was really nice, really cool. We gave him a couple of

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Miss blush Man beta codes and then
they went off and just kind of weird

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though, you know, talking to
Max and then his dad just comes over

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and it's just you know, getting
in on the conversation, like, you

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know, cool, awesome, Bielberg's
there, but be completely casual. Yeah

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whatever, Yeah, I'll talk to
you also about my game. I want

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to play Miss blosier Man too,
give you a beta code. How's the

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big going. It's going good.
I just started Monday, so we have

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like a crap load of emails we
have to go through, but right,

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but so far, so good.
It's always fun, like just going in

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looking at your like email count during
E three and it's like, yeah,

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numbers getting really big. I can't
have no time to look at that right

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now. Ask me like illustrative question. I literally said back, like laughing,

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Hey, do you think this infust
should be this budget code? I

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was like, I'm not answering this
question. Are you serious? But up

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for forty hours? But I would
respond to sass you. Yeah, I

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even know which code I want you
to use, but fuck you. I've

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said this at two o'clock, but
it probably will go out till seven because

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the WiFi on the floor is fucked. There's WiFi on the floor, now,

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you know what I mean, not
Wi Fi whatever the other thing is

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service Michael King three G. I
would actually like I would love to know

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what Spielberg thinks about Connect Guys.
Someone's at the door. Guys, someone's

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at the door. Do see who
it is. I love this reveal.

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It's sure come on in, please
let us up. Welcome her, sucker.

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We don't have roof forre you on
the couch just yet, but if

405
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.720
you'll you'll come on over here and
take a seat, please. Awesome.

406
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.039
Yeah, Derail, I'm sorry,
you know he uh he. I didn't

407
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.960
hear anything from Spielberg himself, but
you know, his son Max was super

408
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.640
into it. But then when I
was walking out, ran into Tim Schaeffer

409
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.440
told him the story, and Tim
was like, you know, apparently,

410
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.119
when you're Spielberg, whenever you have
a question about a video game, you

411
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.519
just call the developers directly. So
he was telling me how like when Max

412
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.559
was eight, apparently Spielberg calls Tim
Schaeffer and he's like hello. He's like,

413
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.079
yeah, this is Steven Spielberg.
My son is stuck in one of

414
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.920
your games. I'd like you to
talk to him, and he hands the

415
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.799
phone to Max. Yeah, and
uh, but I guess ever since then

416
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.880
they've kind of stayed in touch.
So that's crazy they need to join forces.

417
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.680
Yeah, but yeah, like when
the Noority Report and like that's that's

418
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.680
the go to when when someone needs
a quick sound bite about what connect is.

419
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.640
Oh, it's like Minority Report.
So I would actually love to hear

420
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.640
what he thinks about this technology,
sort of getting closer to this crazy movie.

421
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:56.000
We can get him on the horn. You whatever game journals have questions

422
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.920
about Steven spielberg movies, you just
call him off. I was gonna be

423
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.200
a wikipedium. I'd always call Steven
Spielberg and said, I've been looking at

424
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.720
the Sherlotte Holmes game for a couple
of months. I've seen it anywhere in

425
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:14.920
your travels with Shyla Booth. God
damn it. Oh you're stuck now you

426
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:21.359
have to let Sherlock die. That's
it seems like a failure stag the game's

427
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:22.720
names after but he has to die. That I said that you wouldn't even

428
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.160
include like the fact, like you
just would let me on the it would

429
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.000
be on the press sheet, like
whatever you do, don't mention the party.

430
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.160
Yeah, it's on the second page. So just know when you turn

431
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.039
the second page you're gonna have this
big and don't mention that your reviews.

432
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.039
Like that's how much game has left
after that, though, I don't know.

433
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.000
But get ready for the Visceral Girl
of playing its wonder and John Watson

434
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:51.079
for hours he said, actually about
fifteen, so about half and half classic

435
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:59.039
character and half his chubby. But
I can't I can't wait for the new

436
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.240
shot this movie. Robert Eddy Jr. Just Takes a bullet to the face

437
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:07.160
of the first four minutes. I
would like a good Jude log game.

438
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.480
His face is really hard to model
that they're probably very sharp. Yeah,

439
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.160
because something like Watson's got to die
in Chevin, right, It's the only

440
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:20.200
thing about it's just a free screen. We don't know where to go from

441
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.319
here. It's just done. Justin. What else have you seen today?

442
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:31.720
Then? Save the only game you've
talked about flushed everything out of your mind.

443
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:36.680
I went and saw the BioShock Infinite
demo, yeah, which, yeah,

444
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.200
I went and got managed to sit
it on that as well. Uh,

445
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:45.359
it's it's dense. There's so much
shit going on in that demo and

446
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.400
it's like a maybe ten minutes a
game. Pay Yeah, it's someone someone

447
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:55.480
is playing that game would have everyone
else barrows hat he's wearing a name for

448
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.680
some reason. Everyone you wouldn't know. I mean, like if I was

449
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.960
a developer making a first person shooter
and then I saw that demo, I'd

450
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.839
be pretty I'd be pretty freaked out. It's pretty crazy. There's yeah,

451
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:13.559
there's there's I mean there's even just
like the basic idea of all right,

452
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.720
you're in Columbia's this it's this you
know, turn of the century flying city,

453
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.240
like just that very notion, and
then all of the like just how

454
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.640
much of the aesthetics are thought through
for like every tiny fucking detail to fit

455
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:32.640
this this weird, fantastical setting that
they've established, and all this character stuff,

456
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.079
like your character that you're playing as, book A DeWitt is like there's

457
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.119
a ton of dialogue for him and
for Elizabeth, this girl that he's trying

458
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.920
to protect, and they they you
know, they had someone come up and

459
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.839
and talk briefly about the game,
kind of give you a little bit of

460
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.200
set up about what's going on in
case you hadn't seen anything else about BioShock

461
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.119
and fit It before. But then
like after that, like there's these crazy

462
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.720
powers that are being used by Booker
and by Elizabeth, and there's the sky

463
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:02.960
Rail stuff happening, and they're these
fighting factions inside of of of Columbia,

464
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.400
and it's just it's it's bananas,
huh. And like one of the like

465
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.920
we were talking outside a little bit
justin beforehand and kind of kind of one

466
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.760
of the the crazy things that that's
that's hard to parse out of that that

467
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.320
that demo is you know, there
are things happening you can't really tell like

468
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.119
what's triggering it, like diet Like
you kind of like are looking over to

469
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.559
the side and you see something and
then dialogue kind of just starts happening.

470
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.800
Those game durn those things you could
like shut off in your head. But

471
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.280
that's what you see and you think, WHOA, how are they I didn't

472
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.760
see a button prompt for that?
How do they like they'll look at them?

473
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.440
Well, you're thinking about, like
how do I play this game?

474
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.280
Is like like, once I actually
get my hands on this game, what

475
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.320
is this experience actually going to be
like? And you know, when they're

476
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.760
flying around this like they're in the
middle of a fight, and then this

477
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.440
zeppelin shows up. There's like a
you know, just a ground fight with

478
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.199
a bunch of guys shooting you know, machine guns and r pgs and shit

479
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.880
at you, and it's zeppelin comes
flying up over the horizon and Burgers like,

480
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.920
all right, give me a second, I'll be right back, hops

481
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.880
up, jumps on one of these
these these sky rails, and just fucking

482
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.480
flies off as you do, right
right, like not even explaining what this

483
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.960
whole sky rail system is about.
It's like just jumps on and there's other

484
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.800
dudes flying along all these skyrails like
towards him and alongside of him, on

485
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.159
on like parallel rails. And then
but then there's like big contained like shipping

486
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.280
containers on some of them, so
he's gotta like jump off and and I'm

487
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.119
just like, I don't know how
you like, how you would know like

488
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.360
where the fuck you're supposed to be
going in any of this it's's it seems

489
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:28.840
like so detailed that when the guy
playing the demo finished, he would have

490
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.440
just set the control down raise it
stands up with the air, Like,

491
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:36.760
did anyone see that? Everything?
I just I'll thank god I was filming

492
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.000
perfect perfect run. Yeah, I
mean it sounds like a lot like the

493
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.960
like the biostruck they did, like
for the first time, they're already three

494
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.079
Like that whole thing had like a
lot of similar things, where oh,

495
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:52.960
Dan Ryker from shows, show us
this classy shirt that you have wrapped around

496
00:35:52.000 --> 00:36:00.519
your neck. Fuck that ship?
So what about the one? What about

497
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.519
your room job shirt that you brought
go get a room job from Alex and

498
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.840
co. Very good, very good. A little bit. One thing I

499
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.039
haven't seen yet that I really want
to see as gun stream, especially because

500
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.639
I am it's I want to take
this opportunity to bully Pulpa as it were,

501
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:22.559
to request a full FMV get like
a completely FMV game. I'm probably

502
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.199
the only one trap I've been.
Yeah, we've been. We've been hassling

503
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.079
people uh actually over double fine.
We've been hassling them for a while,

504
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:36.559
but uh yeah, we want a
new Night Trapp And I'm about two titles

505
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.079
short of having every Sega c d
FMV game in my collection. It's the

506
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.440
only video games are really like Mark
game, what Markey Mark? I only

507
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.800
got two of them. I got
I got Wrapped, and then I got

508
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:53.400
the one I got to play Right
Vibrations. But yeah, I'm not bullishit.

509
00:36:53.519 --> 00:37:00.840
Yeah, that's Seth Green is in
that game. Well, like he's

510
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:06.320
like randomly like there's like a group
of like middlehead kind of stoner kids in

511
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.519
the middle of that game, and
he's just sitting there with his early nineties

512
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.280
super floppy. There are a lot
of red hair. There are a lot

513
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.599
of logical constructs in Market Mark game, the Markey Mark game that really don't

514
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:17.360
add up. There's a sea where
weightlifters are like, hey, have you

515
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.679
heard the new market Mark? And
he's like, well, no, I

516
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.880
haven't. I'm working out right now
are you doing? Why are you talking

517
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.960
to me about Marky Mark? Why
would you bring that up right now?

518
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.039
You're supposed to be spotting me,
asshole. Weight listeners in the nineties love

519
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:37.079
Markey mark that dude was jacked and
now too, just from then today,

520
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:44.280
it's it's what they like to lift
to please please always in that I've never

521
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.440
liked with you in the middle of
making your efforts gone, I have no

522
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.119
idea, I never pay I'm remembering
other panel. You're like, why I'm

523
00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:04.000
having this panel, I'm the book
of talking to Jesus. But then you

524
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.000
also bail on it halfway through.
You're just like like, oh, I

525
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:15.320
don't know if this reference is working. Actually I got a great Michael Kidd.

526
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:22.880
Someone take this microphone that's shore called
stars all fake. By the way,

527
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:35.480
this fall man, you steal that
cover, So I mean he twisted

528
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.199
picture. You guys kind of have
in a way brought FMB back into vogue

529
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.400
like no one was touching it at
all, and then you guys said,

530
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.320
yeah, fuck explosion, man,
we are gonna have insane amounts of of

531
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.960
FMB in this game. It's just
like, yeah, I mean it just

532
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.639
started out just like you know,
we had a camera and you know,

533
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.440
it's just we actually didn't have time
or money to make a proper ending,

534
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.880
so we just grabbed a camera and
went into the backyard. That that it

535
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.280
ended up working out smashly. Would
you entertain the idea of doing a a

536
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:17.760
full blown FMB game. I can
guarantee you five stars. Today journalism that's

537
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.719
racist, I don't know. I
don't know what that means. What's what's

538
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:31.880
I hope that's right. I hope
yellow journalism't bean something to be fair,

539
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:37.320
its websites and podcasts. That barely
counts doing things. But no, seriously,

540
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:43.719
would you consider doing We would consider
it. And uh, you know,

541
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.280
I think there's gonna be some cool
stuff in Gunstringer. It's not obviously

542
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:51.000
a full motion video entirely game,
but there's actual game play in there as

543
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.119
well, So yes, but yes, key, there's some cool stuff in

544
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.880
there that we haven't shown yet that
I think you will be a fan of.

545
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.400
Just thanks, thanks. Secondary question, would you cast Mark Hammel in

546
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:07.519
that game? Now we have to
say his name, he'll show up.

547
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.840
Expect to check. Actually, if
you say his name two more times,

548
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:19.800
he's gonna appear here, so be
careful. Would you read he's just gonna

549
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.480
talk about Corvette Summer all night?
Any Mark Camil movie, you guys?

550
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:36.239
No, Corvette Summer an obscure ass
star wars there, that's it. I

551
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.719
was thinking Joker from Batman animated series, but that would also would also work.

552
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.159
He'll he'll do that voice before you
ask him. You have to ask

553
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.000
nice, you say, Mark,
you the fucking Joker? Why are you

554
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:51.440
threatening? I'm hanging out with night
want to make him dance for her?

555
00:40:52.000 --> 00:41:00.360
Michael k right now, he's at
it. First I took her any then

556
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.360
Wing Commander. Then I guess any
other FMV series you'd like to take on?

557
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.639
Dan? I mean, Night Trap
is the one that keeps coming up.

558
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.639
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah,
that's that's the brass ring the FMB

559
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.880
game. You gotta you gotta go
all the way if you're gonna go full

560
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.159
FMB. I think it has to
be it has to be full Night Trap.

561
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:28.559
What was the one that starred Christopher
Walking? Anybody just check the chat,

562
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.639
like under the Killing Moon or something
like that's the text. Yeah,

563
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:44.440
Tex, it's like one word like
stalker, chunker bone, creepy face,

564
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:55.880
Ze Star Wars. That's the one, right, yes, Well, so

565
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:02.599
who would you cast in the Dana
Plato role Mashy rest in Peace? I

566
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.800
think we have to go Josh like
achief, creative officer. Okay, enough,

567
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.199
can you get him on the horn
here. Can we start? Can

568
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.559
we start working out the details here? I mean we can. We'll talk

569
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.119
to Sega, We'll get them in
here, We'll get them on board a

570
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:21.559
party right now. I just want
to get this right. Yeah, yeah,

571
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.719
weird, weird. This is sho
number two. We're recording this biz

572
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.199
Dead meeting for posterity, so that
when you try and back out, we

573
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.840
could say no, you said,
enough money in our wallets right now?

574
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.719
Maybe we have a camera, we
can just go. We have two cameras

575
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.039
here. We have a root to
have a root full of people that are

576
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.400
as good of actors as anyone that
was actually in the start looking on that

577
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:50.239
script. Why are you laughing essterically
at the chat bro? That makes me

578
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:58.840
nervous. Game. See what we
got here? We got Sherlock Holmes versus

579
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.159
Jack the Ripper five. You know, I've actually I've heard of that and

580
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.840
I find that it's good. Meta
score of seventy three. Yeah, a

581
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.519
super giants U. Greg Kasavin actually
a big fan of one of these Sharock

582
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.400
Holmes games, but he loves he
loves like these those really intense, very

583
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.199
hardcore in punishing, uh like that
style of adventure game which I understand those

584
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.119
games are Can I entrust you in
Sharlock Holmes The Mystery of the Mummy?

585
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.400
So do this? Do these get
supernatural? At some point the Scooby Doo

586
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.599
s that it is possible that Sharock
Holmes will come back from the dead.

587
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:39.360
For Sharlock Holmes seven, he is
we can hope Sharlock Holmes Nemesis. Most

588
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:44.559
of these are pretty dumb. The
Mystery of the Sharoc Homes runs around,

589
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:52.039
he shoots rockets out of his arm. Oh, the Mystery of the Persian

590
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.360
Carpet. You can get You can
get all of these fine games. The

591
00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:00.119
Mystery of the Odd Shirt Stain fifty
four dollars ninety nine cents. We'll get

592
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.880
you every Sherlock Holmes game on Steam
you can have. You can have five

593
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.159
Sherlock Holmes games for for the same
price they'll probably charge for one new Sherlock

594
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.239
Holmes game. I could say he's
some time to tell you how the series

595
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:19.239
ended, all right, Well,
other than doing some really excellent research on

596
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.920
Sherlock Holmes, is the chat brought
you any sort of questions? I think

597
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.679
the guy's name was Tirax. Wants
to know why Justin was embarrassed to tell

598
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.719
Peter mala knew what his favorite game
was. Oh yeah, he I don't.

599
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.480
He asked Waits to sit the stage
here. I'm going to I'm gonna

600
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.320
go. I'm there to see uh
Fable the Journey. Yes, And the

601
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.840
first thing he says is, oh, alright, first thing I won't to

602
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:53.039
say is it's not on raylswa.
That's your Michael Caine. Yeah, I'm

603
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.119
gonna say it's not on rails.
And he writes on the wall. I'm

604
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.119
gonna write up here it's not on
rails. And then I'm gonna uh monk

605
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.079
each time I say it's not on
rails, and then I want you just

606
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.760
sign it at the end. I'm
not sitting, so it's not like a

607
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:12.199
white board, just like tagging up
the walls. Just Peter Malu so yeah,

608
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.000
yeah, just just Pete putting up
his feeding, so he says.

609
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:22.320
So he goes. So he goes
to the demo. And there are parts

610
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.239
where when you get out of the
thing, out of your horse and carrots,

611
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.039
like you can sort of steer the
horse and carriage. When you get

612
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.639
out of your horse and carriage,
the movement of your character is not decided

613
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:37.880
on by you and you occasionally could
choose a path one way or the other.

614
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.719
And I honestly, at the end
of the demo, he said,

615
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:45.039
so one more time, it's not
on rails. Everyone agrees and saw it

616
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.159
up here and I leave the demo
and I look at Nick Chester from the

617
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.039
structor he was there, and I
said, is that full fucking with us?

618
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.599
Or does he not know what on
rails? It's a mono rail game.

619
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:02.320
There's yeah. So it's like waking
him rails. Pete like you made

620
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.800
this like it's on rail, Like, I get what did you refuse?

621
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.199
Did he say? Did he like
press the issue of like you're gonna sign

622
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.800
this thing? And you're like,
no, I can't threatening people with a

623
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:16.320
sharp because they leave his de Yeah, sign them ball signed away. Yeah.

624
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.719
The one the one time that I
didn't meet Peter Moland and he was

625
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.320
he was very nice, nice,
but I could also see it just turn

626
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.480
on. There's a definite reality distortion
field going. By the end of it

627
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.280
was like yeah, okay, until
I left the room that I was wait

628
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:37.719
a minute, that he must be
right. I guess he's in charge.

629
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.920
So in the middle of the demo, he he looks and he says,

630
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.400
so he's gonna illustrate point. So
what's your favorite game? And I panic

631
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.159
because Peter Malan hes asked what my
favorite goals? And I told him the

632
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.119
truth, which is oblivion. And
like I realized, like I just told

633
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.719
the guy made fabily is my favorite
game a bad bee. It's not like

634
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.000
he looked at me like, oh, it's kind of shitty answer, Like,

635
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.320
oh, well, you're right.
I should have called something like fun

636
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.079
or creative for not like a game
that came out in the past five minutes

637
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:15.119
my eight halloo wait whatever the new
call that last vorite? I love social

638
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:21.679
Twitter Twitter, But yeah, that's
why I was embarrassed. I wish I'd

639
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.000
just wish I'd lied of all the
time to tell the trip and not make

640
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.440
something else. Take that's a weird
thing to ask it a demo for a

641
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:37.039
new t Yeah, he was trying. Oh my god, this is like

642
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.000
a Serial Killer movie where I'm like
realizing at the end all the ships.

643
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.960
He was using that to illustrate the
point that this game is an emotional experience

644
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:51.960
because you whip your horse. What
does he try? I messed up.

645
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:58.639
We don't say weird. Yeah,
yeah, that's why he wants you to

646
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.000
whip your horse and why it's finger
horses out walking because he wants you to

647
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.880
have an emotional experience the game you're
whipping a horse, like what is he

648
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.480
talking about? Should be just like
should make it go faster? Or or

649
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.599
is there a part where you get
off the horse and you just start whipping

650
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:20.199
the shut you take out your anger? Why is petermono? I just want

651
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.159
you to fuck up animals and every
game bad about it? Have you seen

652
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:28.199
a Peter Mullan you two, it's
like a parody Twitter feed of Peterman.

653
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.239
Everything you've just said is like one
hundred and twenty percimes crazy if anything,

654
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.960
that fucking Twitter feed is. That's
the problem with that account is it's too

655
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:44.440
plausible. Most of them account Peter
Bond. He says between like Newton and

656
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:51.000
three when he's conscious. That laugh
ended abruptly. I don't know what to

657
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.119
talk about now? What did you
ask him what his favorite game was?

658
00:48:53.519 --> 00:49:00.000
Yeah? No, I'm just dumb. Turned the tables on him, Pete,

659
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:10.960
what about yours? I would love
I would love to hear Purevald would

660
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.320
go on about night. I'm sure
he could have some insane things to say

661
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.760
about night Trap. Let's let's get
back to E three and talk about shit

662
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.920
you saw we'd left off with with
BioShock Infinite, which looks looks amazing.

663
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:31.119
Were there any any any clues given
as to the ties to the greater BioShock

664
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.920
story? No, no, no, there, this is this is it's

665
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.360
it's definitely its own thing, like
the Ken Lavian has talk kind of extensively

666
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.599
about, like like you could you
could go the cynical route and be like,

667
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.719
Okay, you know they call it
BioShock because money, and I'm sure,

668
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.119
I'm sure that's a factor, Like
you can't deny that, like you

669
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.400
know, you know what that BioShock
name is. But you know, he's

670
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.639
kind of gone on and there's you
know, that's another cat with some some

671
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.119
pretty good realities of stores, and
he can he can talk his way around

672
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.920
some shit. The most surprising thing
about it for me was it by the

673
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.480
end the demo, because that was
a big question in my mind before.

674
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.800
By the end of the demo,
I didn't really care, Like that was

675
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.840
the world the world that I saw
for fifteen minutes in that demo. That's

676
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.280
I was way more invested in that
than I am about trying to get any

677
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.599
kind of connection to Rapture because it's
really well realized, like it's really it's

678
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.559
it's great. Yeah, the details
insane. Did they ever say like is

679
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.039
this a sequel that he's intending to
finish off or any kind of like this

680
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.039
is the second? Does he have
an idea for a third? Has he

681
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.480
ever said? I don't. I
don't know if if that's I don't.

682
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.440
I don't get the sense that's how
I don't know what the process is at

683
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.559
irrational, But it sounds like there's
just a lot of like you know,

684
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.880
throwing sheet on the wall and and
kind of just iterate, iterate, iterate,

685
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.920
and and because you know they were
they were talking about you know,

686
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:50.039
story stuff for both the original Boutshocking
and for Infinite uh, where a lot

687
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.400
of like the thematic things kind of
came in really late in the process that

688
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:58.559
that wasn't like they didn't start from
like okay, you know, weird Randy

689
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.519
and city like that is not the
very beginning of this game is like that

690
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.719
like nineteen forties German. Uh,
it was like in a band Nazi Island.

691
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:13.639
Yeah, they leaked like I think
didn't like there was they actually had

692
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.400
like the design document for the real
Ye, well, they put out a

693
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.119
bunch of that stuff. I mean
the little sisters were giants slugs initially,

694
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.199
Yeah, until they didn't realize they
need to give you a reason to care

695
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.480
about them, right, so you
can whip them. Saw those today?

696
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:32.800
I saw yesterday. I saw twenty
eleven Game of the Year Skyrim five amazing.

697
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:45.679
Yeah, I mean, goodbye John
Drake and say hello to Patrick Klapick.

698
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:55.960
Hey, Patrick, Right a special
guys, do your zach levi Yo

699
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:04.280
named it. I'm on, Chuck, get off that k I have a

700
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:08.079
camera. Let me knock over your
drink. What do I get? A

701
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:15.559
free rock band? So many free
rock bands? Yeah, I'm sure you're

702
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.079
saying something no, no sky Rim. So what does that demo consist of?

703
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.199
I actually haven't seen hide your hair? You uh go into a sort

704
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.280
of are there swords? The sword? There are many swords in fact that

705
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.199
the most seemed to be sort of
the main thrust of it was how many

706
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.599
different things he could do. It
was there was sword in one hand and

707
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.760
sword another. There was fire on
one hand, fire the other. He

708
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.400
did a fire in both hands and
then fuse them together to shoot fire.

709
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.960
Out. So you made he combined
fire with fire and you need fire.

710
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:57.119
Yeah, I get like, like
sugar Night level so created the devil in

711
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:04.760
his hands. The whole game world
just melts the China syndrome. If he

712
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:12.000
drops that, fire just burns through
the world. It looks. It looks,

713
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.840
I mean, it's the one looks
Okay. I don't know. I

714
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.559
can't typify it in any way that's
gonna make it sound especially different from any

715
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.880
other oubliving game. I just know, like when pornography is designed to please

716
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:30.000
my particular I don't try to criticize
it too much. I just drink it

717
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:40.000
down. Pornography high. That's the
one really cool moment that you walk out

718
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:45.239
of the dungeon after you solve this
puzzle and you, uh, you come

719
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:51.840
across a giant and he is hurting
a pack of wooly mammoth. And as

720
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:59.280
I'm describing this too, I'm erasing
times I've had sex in the past with

721
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.840
the giants, hacking the giants.
He just picks a fight. He's like

722
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:08.400
this giant. Howard is like you
know, this giant and the woman with

723
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:12.719
will not uh, they won't.
They won't screw with you unless you screw

724
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.880
with them. So it just pulls
out a club and just just beating,

725
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.920
and he has to make it emotional. You know. The fight gets to

726
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.360
where he's he's close to death,
and then all of a sudden, out

727
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.679
of this guy swoops a dragon that
picks up the giant and flings him twenty

728
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.559
feet. It was great and well, I don't know if if no,

729
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.519
if I mean it was probably scripted. It it seemed like a focused demo,

730
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.920
but it was like the given the
other games, if it does has

731
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:45.559
made you could imagine the possible,
the possibility that would happen unscripted seems pretty

732
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.719
It's plausible. Looks really good.
Yeah, I mean, like the best

733
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.599
coming gonna I can give it to
that game is that I hate fantasy,

734
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:58.119
Like I don't really care for dragons, but that game looks like absolutely incredible.

735
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.639
Item the item the image in your
face so much better. You can

736
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.199
get in to look at all the
items, and there's actually a couple of

737
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.159
the puzzle we saw. There was
a uh, it was sort of a

738
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.880
key. It was a golden claw
that was a key to this puzzle,

739
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.840
and you start the puzzle with the
key, and it turns out that there's

740
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.119
like rotating disk after line up symbols
whatever. But it turns out the answer

741
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.320
to the puzzle is actually on the
item itself. So you have to go

742
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.360
in your inventory and you're actually like
looking at rotating in three days, three

743
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.440
D space, and that's all the
items, even stupid ones like pieces of

744
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.960
salmon, and there's salmon and grilled
salmon, and you can grill the salmon.

745
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:36.320
This sounds like some shin Moo level
of Detailzuki is an associate producer,

746
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.480
so there's quick time events. Then
in Skyrim, No, I wish I

747
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.480
would still still still be pretty good. How much of the jins from Oblivion

748
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.480
is still in there? It's a
new engine, right it is. They're

749
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:55.440
they're off a game over Australians.
That's such a I can say it's slower

750
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:02.519
for you if you want little lower
I'm maybe left after it looks better.

751
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.320
I still wouldn't. I mean,
the fact that they are generating so much

752
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.320
at one time. I mean,
the draw distance is silly. You can

753
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.519
see at the top of huge bounds
that you can clip. The fact that

754
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.719
they're sort of generating so much of
that one time shows I mean, it's

755
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:22.079
it's not of the level of detail
that you'd see and you know, a

756
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.519
much tighter sort of experience. But
it definitely looks better than than oblivion does.

757
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.039
Faces still don't look like great.
They still look a little mouse,

758
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.960
you're a little but at least but
at least the interactions with the characters are

759
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.039
like less weird and zoomed out,
more like when you're talking to somebody.

760
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.000
It's not like, yeah, it's
kind of like you just go up.

761
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:50.559
They kind of come into frame,
but it's not really awkward. Yeah,

762
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.519
it looks like a little more cinematic, not like a weird talking head as.

763
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.079
I also love there's this there's a
throwaway moment. I don't know if

764
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.519
it's in all the demos, but
Todd Howard is walking through and uh,

765
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.719
he's talking about how you can interact
with the different you know, villages you

766
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:06.760
can go through and you know in
small like small ways like just hack everyone

767
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.159
to death if you want to.
But I kind of like really like messed

768
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:13.880
up, like insidious ways. He's
like, so there's this guy who's like

769
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.679
hacking up some lumber and like that's
his job, and like this NPC is

770
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:21.639
programmed to like hack up the lumber
that's part of this village's economy. You

771
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.639
can just like light the lumber on
fire and destroy that village's economy. So

772
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.719
just plunge it into plunge it into
doom and like ruin that man's life,

773
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.320
not interact with him at all,
not kill him, Just burn the fire

774
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:37.519
and that man would go into poverty
and you've killed his family. What that

775
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:42.119
just that little bit like him chopping
up the lumber. It wasn't like a

776
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.400
can animation. He was taking pieces
of lumber, splitting them into law and

777
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:52.519
Fall would just be like, yeah, there wouldn't even be he's chopping invisible

778
00:57:52.559 --> 00:58:00.840
acts part of the Carapean ride.
He would just be saying acts my family.

779
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.360
Speaking of the Bethesda booth, Patrick, you and Bradley had an exciting

780
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:14.679
experience there. Today, Bradley's already
maybe like stress speaking of not being on

781
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:22.639
the stat awake during demos. Who
you almost supposed to during the one?

782
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:29.320
Wait we're talking about I'm glad I'm
not the only one that constantly mixes up

783
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.519
two K and Beth that I did
that in my brain earlier to day.

784
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:37.440
I managed to keep that internalized up
until this very moment. But yeah,

785
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:39.840
I know oh yes, oh oh
yeah, we didn't. We didn't see

786
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:45.559
any demos Bethesda, but you guys
got hoping to catch a dead demo that

787
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.719
you hadn't. We actually were just
trying to scrape some random interviews. Yeah,

788
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.000
I hadn't seen Pray two, and
I was like, he was gonna

789
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.119
see Pray two. I was gonna
try to do a skyrom interview. And

790
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.639
we get in there and like thirty
seconds later, the pr runs up and

791
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.960
they're just like, hey, you
want to go interview John Carmack was at

792
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:00.880
that moment, like Brad's face goes
white. I was just like, stark

793
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:07.719
white, I can't and He's like
I don't, I don't know, And

794
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.159
I was like, yes, we'll
interview him. I'll get you through this,

795
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.679
Brad, Dude, what I loved
about this? So I talked to

796
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.760
you about this and then, uh, we were in the two K booth

797
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.519
when we were maybe maybe the maybe
maybe this is why. But we were

798
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.840
in the two K booth when you
were telling me this, this story of

799
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:30.320
the John Carmack, Brad Brad Shoemaker
freak out, feeling a little flushed again

800
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:35.960
even just thinking about John Carmack.
So, I mean just so it's no

801
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.679
one clear no unclear terms. John
Krmack is your video game hero, Like

802
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.119
that's that's you mean one of them. Yeah, I mean the guys done

803
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.280
pretty cool stuff. But I can't
think of anyone that I would think that

804
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:51.840
you would hold in higher regard as
far as you know, game designers,

805
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:58.679
go programmers, I mean, or
yeah, our you know, rocket builders,

806
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.599
that any of these things. So
you were you were telling me about

807
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:05.840
this, and and you were you
were, you know, describing Brad's moments

808
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:09.679
and and Brad, I'm like,
I don't know, yeah, I knew

809
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.880
we needed to do it. Yeah, And I was like, you know

810
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.559
I can. I was like,
dude, like but do you want to

811
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.360
do it? And he was like, oh, maybe we could do it

812
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.280
together. And I was like okay, Like I can ask the first question.

813
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:23.400
And when you feel comfortable, Brad, you know, you could just

814
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:28.199
jump on into that interview. And
but we ended up sitting down. Like

815
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.800
the thing it's great about Carmack is
that like it's not really an interview.

816
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.599
You just like mention a topic and
he just talks for fifteen minutes, so

817
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:37.800
it's really the it's really you're just
there to listen to him. We only

818
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:42.000
got three questions in right a lot
of time, and like each answer was

819
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.920
like five minutes long, and he
answered eight other questions that you didn't ask

820
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.559
and then the same period of time. But I'm excited to see this this

821
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.800
video interview that we have with with
Carmack up on the side at some point.

822
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.440
But what a look about this the
story specifically, so you describing Brad's

823
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.400
reaction. And then uh, I
met Vinnie at the two K booth a

824
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.280
little bit later when we picked up
some some interviews and that's when we went

825
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:06.760
and saw the Botshock Infinite and then
he was telling his side of the story

826
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.960
and he started like telling like your
reaction to Brad and you you and I

827
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.360
realized every like I watched this chain
of command of Giant Bomb staff members doing

828
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:23.719
impressions of each other in this moment
of Vinny trying to talk like Patrick and

829
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:28.480
Patrick trying to talk like Brad.
And all I need now is is it

830
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:32.239
Brad can do a decent Vinny,
and we can just bring it completely Kine.

831
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:42.480
We can't be any worse than yours. So wow, weird that it

832
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.440
came out. It came out more
mean than I. That was intentional.

833
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:52.519
If I chuckled along, it would
have help like that just sad face.

834
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.599
You're right, My Michael Kaine's no
good. My Michael Kaine is actually more

835
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:05.320
of a personality impression Michael Caine would
act, and they giving the scenario fantastic.

836
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.599
Yeah, we should take a break. We're an hour in here.

837
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:13.519
We're gonna trade out some some personalities, get some some more guests rotating Justin

838
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:21.000
mclroy from Justin from Justin from Justin
Stick. Let's Joysten with a queue,

839
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:37.599
Eric Quote from harmonic stick dot Com, Mike Wilford and Dan Teesdale from Twisted

840
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.119
Pixel. Thank you guys for thanks
for coming through. Uh. We're gonna

841
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.519
take a quick break. We gonna
have some more guests in here for our

842
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.440
Day three three, twenty eleven wrap
up. Stay tuned if you're watching this

843
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:51.239
live, if you're just listening to
the podcast, you'll hear this in like

844
01:02:51.280 --> 01:03:25.440
a second, So stick around.
Hey, folks, Welcome back to uh,

845
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:30.679
part two of our Day three three, twenty eleven wrap up. We've

846
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.440
switched out the counts is a little
bit here. We've now got a monster

847
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:37.119
crew in the house. They number
us, Yeah, no, but by

848
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.679
a large large margin. I don't
think we could kick them out if we

849
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:45.320
wanted to, and I don't want
to just yet, Yeah, just yet.

850
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.760
Jeff Gerstman's here, Alex Navarro is
here. Dan Reicherd from Game Informer

851
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:54.679
is here. Genova Chen is here. H This guy Patrick Kleppick is here.

852
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:59.880
Thanks for blanking on my name.
And well, I didn't want to

853
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:01.840
call you Pat, all right,
I could call me Zach, call you

854
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.679
tricky, alright. I really want
I really want that to say. I

855
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:10.880
really want that to stick as a
nickname. And then Adrian's here as well.

856
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:20.400
Adrian, come on in, take
a seat. Did you bring hot

857
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.320
dogs? The same thing I said? Ron came in, and Eric Pope

858
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.639
is here as well. Still he
still here, still here, warm in

859
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:39.519
the couch, doing it, doing
it well. I want to talk to

860
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:44.599
Dan Reichert first and foremost about pranks. We're getting right into that already,

861
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.360
we're going straight for it. I
want to I want to get it out

862
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.039
of the way here. It's just
as quickly as I can. And so

863
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:53.320
this is I did not want to
put this on the internet at all.

864
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:56.519
And if this gets out, I'm
probably going to be murdered in Minneolis on

865
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.280
the internet right now, So good
luck, so great, I'm doing this

866
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.840
right, yeah, yes, nailing
it all right. So so I mean

867
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.960
it's for a little little you know, preface here, Dad record is it's

868
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.440
maybe known for a passion for pranks, a jokester. There's a video that

869
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:15.119
you made that has like one hundred
thousand views or something of the day like

870
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:20.679
two good yeah, okay, so
we're talking about the new one, the

871
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.199
new one. Let's talk about the
new the most recent Dan Record pranks just

872
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:29.360
literally happened on Saturday. And honestly, I think I'm going to get murdered

873
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.280
for this one. And now that
we're putting this on the internet. So

874
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:35.440
basically, okay, you're familiar with
okay, Cupid, Yeah, dating site,

875
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.559
dating site? Yeah? Was I
single once? Yes? All right,

876
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.199
so this is a repeat of a
prank. I didn't call it back

877
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.679
then. I did it with Facebook. But anyway, we use the same

878
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.039
fictional girl we made up. Me
and a couple of friends made this problem.

879
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:56.639
Was her name, Heather Patton.
It's her name and good collection and

880
01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.840
I saw Patton and Heather sounds I
got a high rol name. So we

881
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:03.360
made this profile. George C.
Scott, that's right. You really wanted

882
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.760
to pull from from a hot girl
named It's such about right now, the

883
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:15.000
idea of girls named George though,
yeah, yeah, you know, okay.

884
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:17.880
Anyway, so we used the same
pictures we used for the Facebook prank.

885
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.559
Yeah, we went on MySpace like
five years ago, just generic hot

886
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:26.400
girl internet photos, you know,
the mirror pictures, the duck face thing

887
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.920
and everything, right, and we
use these pictures for this fake girl,

888
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:35.599
And we manufactured this profile to be
just the most generic, stupid, like

889
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.679
the only reason somebody would message this
girl is to fuck her basically, Okay,

890
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.760
So it's like, you know,
it's just general like her favorite shows

891
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.159
were Glee and Gray's Anatomy and a
bunch of dumb inspirational quotes and all this

892
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:50.960
shit, and like, you know, but we wanted to misattributed inspirational quotes

893
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:58.440
like where they that's the extra layer
right there on that. But we wanted

894
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.519
to make her seem easy, but
not too overtly slutty, because then I

895
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.000
would make it too obvious it was
a prank. So like she talked to

896
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.599
her she like boys live, but
we didn't put that she was interested in

897
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.239
casual sex. She just wanted dating, but like if you dig a little

898
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.320
deeper, and she seems like an
easy girl. So anyway, I mean,

899
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:18.840
what's behind this? Just fucking the
people? I like it. But

900
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:23.559
anyway, so we made this on
like Wednesday, and within a day we

901
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:28.039
had like two hundred and fifty messages
from like total like douche bag guys like

902
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.880
you know, shirtless dudes posing in
front of motorcycles and like forty year old

903
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:38.000
dudes named like his name was like
over my knee and like the first message,

904
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:42.599
yeah, the first message was all
caps, nice curves. It was

905
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.679
like, wow, you're obviously like
these are the guys on I don't know

906
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.679
with the nice guys. So anyway, I had like these templates basically that

907
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:53.360
I would say like, oh hey, no, sorry my phone broke so

908
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:55.519
I can't get ahold of me or
whatever. We're like, oh no,

909
01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:59.480
you seem cute, blah blah blah
whatever. This is still going so much

910
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:04.119
more, so much more, okay, okay, going, but details elaborate.

911
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:08.960
I do these elaborately. So anyway, I told all these guys that

912
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.800
their profile seemed interesting, you know, they look cute or whatever. And

913
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.679
my friend Abo was helping me out
with like doing the responses, and we

914
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:18.279
said, hey, how about we
meet on We have this pedestrian bridge across

915
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.119
the river in Minneapolis called stone Arts
Bridge, And I said, how about

916
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:25.520
we meet in the middle of stone
Arts Bridge on Saturday at three o'clock and

917
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:30.079
wear a blue shirt. And so
myself and two other Game and former editors

918
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:39.720
temptarian Ben Reeves, we wait,
wait, implicate your and everything. That's

919
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:45.199
good. That's the only one getting
murdered over a flash mob. Yeah,

920
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.399
accidental one, but yeah, so
yeah, basically we went undercover. We

921
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.920
wore a blue shirt and we went
to the bridge and sure enough we had

922
01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:57.920
our astmate is about twenty five guys
in blue shirts. But here's the great

923
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:00.439
thing, Like we said, the
middle of the bridge, So like the

924
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:02.560
first guy that got they're kind of
estimated what the middle was and kind of

925
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:05.640
set up shop there and he's laying
in there looking at the river and stuff.

926
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:09.399
And then like all these other guys
come in blue shirts and this is

927
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.760
the heartbreaking. One was the guy
that had two vitamin waters, one for

928
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.000
the lady. But anyway, they
posted off like five feet apart. There's

929
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:21.399
like six dudes, like, dude, dude, dude, all in blue

930
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:25.039
shirts just tanking. They're looking at
the river, and no one's getting this.

931
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:29.000
No one's just like, no one's
seeing like oh wait, there's there's

932
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:30.319
or even just the idea of like, fuck, there's another guy in blue

933
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:32.960
shirts? But am I? Yeah? And I can't get ahold of her

934
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.439
because she doesn't have a phone because
she dropped it old. She's not drunken

935
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.680
dancing? What's her the template?
What is that? Yeah? That's nice

936
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:42.279
touch. But so anyway, one
of the guys figured it out. I

937
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:48.439
think we found this year's sociopath,
right, someone else some of the guy's

938
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:54.279
paced, but Pope is his name, lady gentleman. So basically one of

939
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:57.479
the guys. After a while,
I was looking at all the other guys

940
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.680
and he said, hey, are
all you guys? Is here to me?

941
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.119
To chick too? And like the
five other dudes just kind of looked

942
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.640
at him and didn't respond at all. And he goes, I'm just saying,

943
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:13.880
there's a lot of dudes by themselves
and blue shirts on this bridge.

944
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.600
There are a few responses. A
couple of them laughed and they got their

945
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:24.159
joke and everything. One dude like
just sprinted off the bridge at lodge like

946
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:30.640
Trapan too, and then one dude
screwing what a bitch? And I went

947
01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.920
home and I checked the okay Cuban
messages and some of the guys were still

948
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:35.439
like that was a good prank.
That was really good Heather, So like,

949
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:39.960
when are we getting our first real
day? Really? Dude? Like

950
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:44.680
you were clearly pranked? So were
you do like a part two? Are

951
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:46.399
you gonna see how many guys you
can get to come back for something?

952
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.119
Oh? I'm sorry, I was
no, no, no, I just

953
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:51.920
well, some muscle head, shirtless
douche bag is gonna kill me after I

954
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.800
say it on the internet. But
watching none of them were watching this,

955
01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.600
you know, okay, cup it
right now for someone else stuff meet up

956
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:01.920
with a bread. They got one
window doing that. It was like,

957
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:09.800
I'm looking for insightful but funny video
games while they're working out to marky Mark

958
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.680
make my video. So follow up
question for you, Dan, Yes,

959
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:23.439
how much time would you say?
Just kind of ballpark here? Uh,

960
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:27.520
you're on the clock game and former
time do you spend working on pranks?

961
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:30.640
That's that's free time, that's that's
just that's my me time. I Uh,

962
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:38.840
that sounds believable. Walking by.
So what you're saying is you have

963
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:42.600
a lot of me time. I
do like a lot of me time much,

964
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.920
Okay, and that's what I copious
amounts. All right, Yes,

965
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:50.199
well Danna record, thanks for coming
and spending some time on the couch.

966
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:56.079
Now. That was all I wanted, was the one anecdote. No,

967
01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:59.359
I want to I want to talk
to one of our special guests here tonight.

968
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:01.920
You know, a chant and creator
of Journey. Uh, sir,

969
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:05.560
Uh? What has your E three
been like with this game? It's been

970
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:11.199
getting a lot of really kind of
positive word of mouth so far. Oh

971
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:15.760
yeah, it is very very incouraging. But I actually want to continue that

972
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:23.520
prak topic. Yeah, yeah we
can. Would you have like prank aspirations

973
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:29.239
prank? Oh? Really? Yeah? Would you? Were you were discussion.

974
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:32.680
You're wearing a blue shirt right now. You you can say that,

975
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:39.800
but I think it's it's very inspiring. But you know, it's not sorry

976
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.760
for me, But I was on
the standing side, which similar to okay,

977
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.800
cubit and uh, I get to
know a girl, well, she's

978
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:51.199
like way older than me. Act, she's probably over thirty five or someth

979
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:56.439
it. Uh, And so we
met, you know, and you know,

980
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:06.520
not attractive at all, right,
So that's just once that's not that's

981
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:12.920
the cushier runs out. That's another
back. And then the second time I

982
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:17.359
was on the side, was some
undergirl contact with me, and she looks

983
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:24.560
very attractive, right, and believable
generic photos right the duck face or whatever.

984
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:30.560
And in the end we decide to
meet, right, and and we

985
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:35.239
even caught each other a little bit. But I so when eventually meet the

986
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:43.439
second girl, I realized that's the
first girl boy. So, so I

987
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.560
was kind of amazed, why she
want to do that to me? So

988
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:53.439
the girl that the unattractive girl you
already dated went out with one time came

989
01:13:53.479 --> 01:14:01.039
back with a different profile again,
Yes, and so I did. Yeah,

990
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:04.319
So she didn't tell me that she's
the first goal. I couldn't tell,

991
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:06.720
you know, from a line.
You just can't tell, right,

992
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.520
But why I called her, I
was like, this kind of sounds familiar,

993
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:15.720
right, But I was not sure. I was still hoping that this

994
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:18.920
is actually an attractive go the same
number in your phone, like, well

995
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:23.960
the first time, I don't.
I didn't take her number, so I

996
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:28.359
couldn't tell, you know, whether
it's not worry. Yeah, So I

997
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:30.520
just thought that was that was really
good. She really got me. I

998
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.920
was like, what I saw?
I that was her purpose or not?

999
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.479
It doesn't sounds like so much like
a Franks, which is a crazy person.

1000
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:42.239
Yeah, it's somewhat crazy, but
I think that was a story,

1001
01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.920
you know, it's it's especially like
when I see her, I was like,

1002
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:50.640
what did I just do? And
so this inspired you to create journey,

1003
01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.479
have a personal journey that or game
journey that reflected your your your personal

1004
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.880
one. Uh, I guess it's
somewhat related. I'm just so happy we

1005
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.079
got, you know, a chance
to say the word duck face like that

1006
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:13.359
is an achievement in itself. So
yeah, a journey is is very unique.

1007
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:18.600
I think even right now, I
couldn't tell how whether the game is

1008
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.079
truly good, you know, like
when you walk on something for a long

1009
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:27.600
time. It's almost two and a
half years now, I just couldn't tell

1010
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.439
anymore. I just really need to
hear from other people's opinion, you know,

1011
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.000
and it's good to hear that people
like it so far. But I

1012
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:40.199
also feel like, yeah, if
if journalists play the game and they really

1013
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:43.119
hate it, they're not gonna tell
me, you know, they're just gonna

1014
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:45.640
lie, Oh that was cool.
And then it's just it's pretty. Yeah,

1015
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:51.079
it's pretty. Yeah, it's beautiful. You get reactions, it's interesting.

1016
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.560
Are you Are you able to like
at this point, having you know,

1017
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.680
shown h several different games to two
writers that like, can you kind

1018
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:04.359
of tell when they're when they're kind
of bullshitting you? Well? Sometimes I

1019
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:10.279
couldn't tell because people will say I
feel intrigued. Oh no, no,

1020
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:15.960
no, that's them bullshitting. In
Striguing and interesting are the worst words you

1021
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.920
can get from a yeah. And
but the other times I always see this

1022
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:24.600
guy hands shaking. He couldn't even
speak. That's why I feel like,

1023
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:34.960
well, that seems like it's walking
with his hands. Yeah, so it's

1024
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:40.600
it's kind of weird. I don't
really trust what they tell me directly.

1025
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.359
But it's also like I couldn't tell
what's the real feedback until maybe after you

1026
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:48.439
see when you start seeing people writing
about it and that sort of stuff removed

1027
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:51.600
from yeah, well, I'd love
to hear your feedback from you guys,

1028
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:57.119
because my personal feeling on this,
I'm just talking to Vinny something about this

1029
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.880
this earlier day. I think,
uh, just the like when you when

1030
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.880
you like go and see a game
and you you play it and they give

1031
01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:08.800
you the demo or whatever, and
then they do this, so what do

1032
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.079
you think, like the like the
immediate, like all right, give me

1033
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.199
your feedback about the game, because
I need something. I need to hear

1034
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:17.720
something because in so many cases,
it is like you're saying you've been so

1035
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:21.199
close to this game for so long, like you have lost any perspective on

1036
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.399
this game, and like I don't
I can't tell if this is fun,

1037
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.680
if this is any good, if
this is you know, meaningful at all.

1038
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:30.319
But I feel like, you know, for myself, like like point

1039
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.800
one, it's it's really difficult to
you know, encapsulate, like, Okay,

1040
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.000
these are my opinions. This is
you know, what I got out

1041
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:40.159
of this experience, and you know, let me share that with you.

1042
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.520
And it's, you know, it's
hard to tell, like if your you

1043
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.680
know, gut immediate reaction is is
even like a true one. And then

1044
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.880
and then also you don't if you
don't have a relationship with the developer,

1045
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:51.279
like like and if I see Janova's
games, I know, I feel like

1046
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:54.520
I can be a little more honest
about my impression about them. But if

1047
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.960
you're just not every developer is gonna
take like if if you're like, yeah,

1048
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.920
actually that was a pretty poor demo. You're short, you showed a

1049
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.399
kind of generic combat sequence, and
your weapons are kind of uninspired. I'm

1050
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:08.880
not I'm not sure that's necessarily the
feedback they're looking for on demo number forty

1051
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:11.840
seven of day three of E three, Right, you know what I mean?

1052
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.720
Like it it's I think it's tough
because unless you have a relationship with

1053
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.800
that designer where they you can kind
of speak your mind on that. And

1054
01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:21.880
also sometimes it's in the middle of
a room with like thirty other people,

1055
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:25.399
like are you going to be the
guy that the guy that like, you

1056
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:27.960
know, after everyone like gets some
claps at the end of it, you're

1057
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:31.960
like, I don't know, all
right, Yeah, I had a couple

1058
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.560
of demos today where, you know, so I went through kind of the

1059
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:40.199
full mass Effect three loop today of
they had their their theater demo where they

1060
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:43.119
showed the stuff in the press conference, but then additional stuff on top of

1061
01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:45.359
that, and then I wouldn't played
it, and uh, you know the

1062
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:53.000
that was I just grabbed a bug
straight out of the air and I was

1063
01:18:53.039 --> 01:19:00.439
handed Oh that was brutal. All
right, that's mass Efect three basically support.

1064
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.560
Yeah, and you know when I
got to the end of it,

1065
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.600
there's like a there's a closet in
the a booth where a guy is just

1066
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:10.520
in there in the dark and he
can't speak out loud because it's kind of

1067
01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:14.159
connected to the mass Efect theater and
he'll be heard if he's if he speaks

1068
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.479
at full volume. And he's just
back there waiting for ten people to come

1069
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.319
play Mass Effect three. So I
was one of those people, which is

1070
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:25.119
pretty awesome. Uh. I get
in there and the guys like, so,

1071
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:28.479
I mean, what would you think
of the the demo? And I

1072
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:30.279
was able the demo from four,
and I was like, well, at

1073
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:34.840
this point we had headsets on that
we're amplifying our speech, so whisper and

1074
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:38.720
the heart for each other. And
I was like, I'm glad to finally

1075
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.880
get this full demo because everything you've
shown up to now, like you've been

1076
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.399
talking in a good game, but
all you keep showing is shooting, and

1077
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:46.159
I'm like, what the fuck,
This isn't a shooter. What's going on?

1078
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.479
And so I was able to at
least say like in that case,

1079
01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:54.079
it was you know, like I
have finally seen the thing that lets me

1080
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:57.560
know that you are making a full
product and not just you know, focusing

1081
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.359
on on one half over the other
and stuff like that. And then it

1082
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:02.520
was like need for speed, like
they you know, immediately after finishing that

1083
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.600
demo, there was a situation of
a guy going to sweet the well.

1084
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:13.239
I think when you go to cut
scene while you're driving, like basically in

1085
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.000
that game, it goes from the
end the car to out of car stuff,

1086
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.159
but something always happens when you're in
the car to lead to you being

1087
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:23.199
out of the car, like that
you get t boned at one point,

1088
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.640
you know, and car rolls over
whatever. But before that stuff happens,

1089
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:31.199
they take control away from you.
So you're steering a car and all of

1090
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:34.399
a sudden it just stop like stops
responding like what the fuck is going?

1091
01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:38.159
And then you realize like, oh, I'm watching a cut scene now.

1092
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:41.720
And then they don't clue you into
that transition very well. So I just

1093
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.960
stra told that dude. He's like, oh, I have to apologize to

1094
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.600
you during that because I was there
with you when you're doing that, and

1095
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:55.359
he looked at me first, and
I did this because I was like,

1096
01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:00.680
I'm not saying anything about this,
I would act, I should say I

1097
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:03.840
would prefer that. Uh. First
of all, I mean, anyone who

1098
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:06.479
asked me, what do you think? Do I think about a game?

1099
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.039
I'm going to criticize the hellut of
it, you know, just like I'm

1100
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.960
criticized odd by games. And some
people couldn't take it, but I think

1101
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:20.800
that most of the time they will. And uh, yesterday when I go

1102
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:27.760
home, I checked game trailers.
I saw Jeff Katy interview Reggie. That

1103
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:30.680
was awesome. You know, I
actually see more of that. You know,

1104
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.399
why should a journalist being played?
Is that part of the professionalism?

1105
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:41.199
You know? I think it's you
know, you well, it's it's hard

1106
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:44.479
to say Tuesday, you know,
and that's it's get outside of journalism,

1107
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:45.880
just in any line. It's hard
to say to someone's face like I don't

1108
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:47.840
think this thing that you've spent the
last two and a half years on is

1109
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.319
any good, and especially when it's
not done, especially when yeah, when

1110
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:55.159
it's not done, you don't really
know for sure. So it's it's it's

1111
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:58.880
hard when when you're asked for for
general feedback on something like like do you

1112
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.600
like it? And after you've played
it for like four minutes or something like

1113
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.319
that, you most of the time, I don't know yet, I think

1114
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:08.319
it works better. Like I know
when when I played a Journey a couple

1115
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:11.279
of weeks ago, when we were
talking about how they're kind of still working

1116
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.359
out how the camera mechanic is going
to work. You know right now that

1117
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.800
the diversion I had played it was
you tilt the camera using the six acts

1118
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:19.279
and stuff, and you're used to
doing that in games of his, you

1119
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:21.720
know, it's used in Flower.
It makes a lot of sense. But

1120
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.680
when your first instinct is to,
you know, use the right analog stick

1121
01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:29.239
and now you know, to give
a general feedback aver after just having finished

1122
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:31.640
his demo, that's difficult because I'm
still processing what I'm gonna do. But

1123
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:34.960
asked specifically, well what did you
think about the camera controls? I was

1124
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:38.840
able to come up with a much
more articulate description of what, you know,

1125
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.239
how how they were. I think
it's that general, like what do

1126
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.319
you think of the game. But
if they were to ask like, so,

1127
01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:45.600
what do you think of our you
know, in need for speed,

1128
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.640
like getting out of the car sequences, like you might have a better you

1129
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.479
know, a better opportunity to actually
validly critique that, But at the same

1130
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:55.399
time it could be really hard.
I would think for a developer to ask

1131
01:22:55.479 --> 01:23:00.520
for specific feedback about certain systems,
because in some cases they're probably worried that

1132
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.880
calling attention to that is just want
to get them dinged in rite ups after

1133
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.720
the facts by the way they develop
a minute, it's I wouldn't saw a

1134
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:14.960
game today with with someone who is
I wouldn't saw like I get went into

1135
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:19.840
demo theater to see a game with
someone who is tangentially related to that product,

1136
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:25.039
and after the fact that this person
was was like, there's one thing

1137
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:28.279
that I saw that's made me super
crazy, and I'm not going to tell

1138
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:31.479
you what it is because it's just
like, this was one thing that like,

1139
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.359
but I don't want to point it
out to you because I know I

1140
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.680
don't want to spoil your views on
this game that way, Like all right,

1141
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:42.479
whatever. It's so I imagine that
you know, the fear of opening

1142
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:46.800
up that door and and you know, kind of creating this this all goo

1143
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:48.880
thing. I'm like, oh,
well, you know, the camera controls

1144
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.840
horrible, you know, like like
you don't want every ride up to say

1145
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:57.319
that i'd imagine either. I think
it was a little bit special because you

1146
01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:01.000
know, Patrick was here playing the
game, isolated him almost the same as

1147
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:06.000
a playtest, and we gotta playtest
feedback, you know, just like that.

1148
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:11.159
Right. It's also different because you
know, for instance, you know,

1149
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:14.680
you're the creative head you know,
of that game, Like he can

1150
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.720
tell you something and you can actually
affect that change the game if you want

1151
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.680
to. Most of the people who
are running demos at E three are like

1152
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:26.399
you know, random artists and programmers
and producers that are just were sort of

1153
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:29.159
like you know, thrown into the
mix. Yeah, yeah, John draclay

1154
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:35.279
Is likes like John Drake running down. I don't think the dancing's funky enough,

1155
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:41.479
Like what're you gonna do? Runching
would just get thrown into like demos

1156
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:44.840
that I you know, we would
work on, and it's like those people

1157
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:47.239
can't do anything. So like when
they're asking, you know, for like,

1158
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.159
you know, what do you think
of the game, if you tell

1159
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.600
them something specifically, they're like,
yeah, I don't, I don't work

1160
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:54.760
on that. I don't I don't
know, I don't know how to fix

1161
01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.159
that. Okay, thanks. And
also especially if you're talking to PR people.

1162
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:00.560
They don't want to know anything specific. They just want to know if

1163
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:01.760
you liked it or not so they
can go back to their boss and be

1164
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:04.119
like, yeah, this journalists really
liked it, and this journalist said this

1165
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:09.399
about this. Like I saw people
a checklists that had like six word like

1166
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:14.239
you know, basic GISTs of what
every journalist told them about those games.

1167
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.560
Some companies take that to extremes,
like you know, as you're they're asking

1168
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:20.399
you to fill out cards, yeah
we really yeah, Patrick will well,

1169
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.439
well yeah, yeah, there's there's
definitely that. But I mean, like

1170
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:26.600
even like Patrick and I were at
a meeting not too long ago where every

1171
01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:30.800
time we asked a question or said
anything, like someone was furiously taking notes

1172
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:34.039
about what we were asking we were
asking. I was in I was in

1173
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:39.800
an interview today where I sat down
and there was a there was a recorder

1174
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:42.479
there, and I was like,
oh, you know, the last person

1175
01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:44.560
must have forgotten this. Y're like, oh, no, that's ours.

1176
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.560
I was like all right. I
was like, I guess I'll just set

1177
01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:50.199
mine here, yeah, next to
it. Can you send me a copy

1178
01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:57.560
that'd be yea MP three, transcribe
it later. Yeah, So there are

1179
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.000
a lot of different ways that developers
collect feedback from us, and we're doing

1180
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.760
this stuff and you know, and
in our our prior job, we kind

1181
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:09.079
of had a blanket policy of no
feedback, uh, you know, with

1182
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.279
the thought being like, we don't
make games. We don't know how to

1183
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:15.800
make games, so why should we
tell you how to make them. That's

1184
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.119
that's kind of not our job,
and we, well, we don't.

1185
01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:20.800
We don't want to open the door
too. We don't want to become playtesters.

1186
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:26.640
Well there's that, But you run
into the situation where and I've worked

1187
01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:30.720
with someone that that did this very
blatantly and it was disgusting, where you

1188
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.600
make a bunch of suggestions to a
developer, they don't take them, and

1189
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.439
then you get on a rampage like
that games bullshit because they didn't take my

1190
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.840
advice, Like I don't ever want
to be in in like I don't know

1191
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:43.880
how to make games. I don't
ever want to be in that position.

1192
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.680
Or the flip side of like they
take your suggestions and they're horrible, and

1193
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:49.640
you're like, oh, you're like, yeah, I don't like this game,

1194
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:55.119
but we did the thing that you
said in the game. You know,

1195
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:58.199
Yeah, it's it's but yeah,
I think it's less the form,

1196
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:00.119
you know, for it's less the
the playtest, the but it's it's more

1197
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:04.479
of the like I I've never gone
through the game development process, so I

1198
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:09.279
don't know like if the feedback that
I'm going to give you is going to

1199
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:14.399
be meaningful at all at all,
like if it's gonna have net net positive

1200
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:16.720
effect here, So you know it's
right, Yeah, you know, I

1201
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:23.079
really feedback counts. But sometimes you
might become the part of the minority,

1202
01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:28.960
sure, the vocal minority. Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean I

1203
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.479
don't know. I like, so
you want your general preferences, you want

1204
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.399
developers just come up or journalists come
to you and say, like, you

1205
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:36.760
know, this is seriously what I
think about your game. Yeah, this

1206
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:41.640
is how I so actually today there
are journalists who see the game. There's

1207
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:45.359
also other developers and the Sony boost
come to play the game, and the

1208
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:48.680
developers will have you, oh,
this this thing, this part this texture

1209
01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:53.920
is missing. Yeah, and that's
not really what you're well, that's that's

1210
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.720
still very useful just to hear.
You know, there would be people say,

1211
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:02.239
you know, I I wish this
waterful looks has a little bit more

1212
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:06.720
shadow on it. And actually I
care about those things because I have to

1213
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:13.479
fix them. So I like those
things. I mean, do you find

1214
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.720
that you get different? I mean
that those are some pretty you know,

1215
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:19.800
like specific things, like you know, textures are wafiling different. Dude,

1216
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.840
the articulations you get from developers,
how how much does that differ from what

1217
01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:28.079
you get when when sort of writers
see the game and talk to you about

1218
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:38.760
it. Writers are almost never coming
on those little flaws. And I think

1219
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:42.439
writers mostly have questions, Yeah,
you know, how is this going to

1220
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:46.239
be? Yeah? Really, so
like I actually have to ask you the

1221
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:51.840
question to collect feedback because you know
edieah, and it is some say I

1222
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:58.600
I am not quite sure about.
And I've collected a lot of normal testers

1223
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.800
feedback. I want to I want
to hear the more you know, uh

1224
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:08.119
literate gamers opinions. So I think
you guys are perfect person to ask for.

1225
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:15.000
Yeah, I'm trying to collect a
sample because internally we are debating a

1226
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:16.760
lot because certain people think, no, we have to do it this way.

1227
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:21.079
Other people think the other way.
And this is the first time,

1228
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:26.239
well I feel like my guts through
actually is not necessarily to the most right

1229
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:30.159
one. So I want to hear
more opinions well, and I know,

1230
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:32.159
for for myself, whenever I see
like the minor perfections or you know,

1231
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:35.399
it's like, oh, the you
know, frame rate's bad, texture pop

1232
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:41.039
in, you know, camera strolls
aren't aren't very good. You're seeing these

1233
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:43.960
games in this incomplete state, and
you always hear that you know, this

1234
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:48.680
the this process, like you know, all the parts don't really come together

1235
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:53.600
until kind of like the very last
moment. It's kind of like like,

1236
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.159
Okay, the idea is there and
in yeah, you get the gist of

1237
01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.920
it, but all of those those
little kind of you know, qua bugs

1238
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.840
basically just like you have to take
some sort of you know, when you're

1239
01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:03.359
seeing it, you have to take
that leap of faith. You have to

1240
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:09.439
assume if I saw that, that
the person who's running this demo definitely fucking

1241
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.359
saw it, because they have run
this down in the demo one hundred times

1242
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.479
over the past three days. So
you know, it's it's it doesn't seem

1243
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.399
it doesn't seem fair to like come
and say, like, you know,

1244
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.760
it's, yeah, the texture is
not there, What's what's going on with

1245
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:25.680
that? And at that point too, I think the play for a lot

1246
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:28.560
of games, the play testing process
hasn't even begune yet at E three.

1247
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.159
So for the developers who are staffing
these booths, a lot of the time

1248
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:35.680
they are actually pretty invested in seeing
this is actually maybe their first time seeing

1249
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:40.520
people that aren't QA playing the game
out in the wild. So I think

1250
01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:43.199
a lot of times, if like
the John drinks in the world, don't

1251
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:47.600
want to hear about it. But
if it's the dev's staffing, n you

1252
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:51.159
don't give a shit about your games, It isn't to Kanye West and day

1253
01:30:51.239 --> 01:31:00.640
Central two, what the fuck we
journed into drinking more cookes? As someone

1254
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:04.000
who makes you know, arguably fairly
non standard games, you know, games

1255
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:08.119
that are like can him sometimes be
a little bit perplexing maybe to someone who

1256
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:12.279
you know just plays a lot of
first person shooters or something. I'm honestly

1257
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.000
curiously, maybe this isn't something you
have like story memory banks, but like,

1258
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:17.920
what's the weirdest question you've ever gotten
from someone about like one of your

1259
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:26.039
games? Oh, I got someone
stalking me, not stalking about stalking me

1260
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:34.039
on into that telling me how flow
is. I think it was like askul

1261
01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:43.880
Unsund ethically unstically unsound. Yeah,
because I did not follow the two evolutions

1262
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.800
something about that, and I'm all
to put true path of evolution, yeah,

1263
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:51.319
something like that. And he was
saying this is this is a wrong

1264
01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:57.439
message to spreads. And I tried
to argue with him at least like over

1265
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.640
twenty emails, and it gets pretty
intense. Was it like a religious thing?

1266
01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:04.840
I don't know. I mean,
it's it's just like I care about

1267
01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:08.399
my games, and so if he
really don't like it, I need to

1268
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:11.399
defend for it a little bit.
But then it actually just feeled a file

1269
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:15.239
and eventually people have to tell me
this guy's crazy. You have to stopped

1270
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:23.800
at the point that you're at email
twenty like right. But by the way,

1271
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:28.880
that person was Dan Ryker, just
because he told me he walks at

1272
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:32.840
the alley as, oh, all
right, so you fly into Pasadena there,

1273
01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:41.439
John Wayne from here on outs.
But then from journalists and writers,

1274
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:47.479
no, I mean it was I
feel pretty I guess honored, just the

1275
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:51.119
fact that everybody seems to be a
very polite and smart, you know,

1276
01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:58.439
like y'all got it, you know
what we're trying to do here. The

1277
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:01.960
most pissed off questions I have,
is we dammling journey journey? And they

1278
01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:08.640
will say so howl, the game
is gonna be how many times can replay

1279
01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:13.000
this game? How many tophy do
you have? And that's that's why I

1280
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:17.239
started lose my I'll tell you,
you know. But just just inside here.

1281
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.000
That means that they have run out
of questions to ask you, but

1282
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:25.159
still feel like, oh shit,
I still have to come up with something.

1283
01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.279
I said, what's your what's your
price point? When are you coming

1284
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:31.359
out the price point? How are
the competitive multiplayer modes? Yeah? Yeah,

1285
01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:33.880
it's like that's when when you when
you've reached that point, you're how

1286
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:39.319
do you shoot your You're you're paying, you're panicking, You're ah, just

1287
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.880
what is the multiplayer like? You
know? So, actually today I don't

1288
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:47.279
know if this is the right thing
to say. I hope he's not listening.

1289
01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:51.720
Well, don't name names, Okay. I was talking to well Off,

1290
01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:58.800
the creative director from a very big, uh open word game you know

1291
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:09.600
it down Yeah, lots of action
and fighting, right and you know yeah,

1292
01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:13.520
and and he saw it. You
know, I'm just really glad that

1293
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.600
games like this has been still being
made today. And he just said,

1294
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.520
you guys would continue do what you're
doing. I said, you know,

1295
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:26.560
you're the creative director. You could
you could do say it's like this as

1296
01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:29.680
well, right, why don't you
make something like this? And he was

1297
01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:35.399
like, well, he was basically
saying, Journey is machine gun lists,

1298
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.840
machine gun lists, right, Yeah, and he's like machine gunless. But

1299
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:46.800
I couldn't make a game without machine
guning it because the higher up decide it

1300
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:53.039
has to be there. So I
was trying to figure out a way to

1301
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:57.760
help him out a little bit.
Just maybe you can restore the water setting

1302
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.880
a little bit, so machine is
impossible, you know, I like,

1303
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:11.279
but I just feel like, why
can't you make Blockbuster without my showing I

1304
01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:15.600
was like, well, you canna
use swords, but it's the same as

1305
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:19.039
right, And there was there was
there was definitely like I think the whoa

1306
01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:25.800
cell phone? Uh? There there
was definitely like a general uh like gun

1307
01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:29.439
fatigue. I think this e three
by the time we got around too uh

1308
01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:32.520
ub Sauce press conference of like,
I've seen a lot of these games.

1309
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:36.880
They're all very brown and and and
and and just sort of said it's it's

1310
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.800
not that these games are going to
be bad, right, I want to

1311
01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:43.439
enjoy them when the come out,
but this many of them, it seems

1312
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:45.840
like it's kind of like just an
easy way to make like a big blockbuster

1313
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:48.720
game is you you know, you
slap a gun on it, and it's

1314
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:54.319
it's it's an understandable gaming trope that
is cheaper to build upon, and then

1315
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:56.800
you build the spectacle around it,
and that's where the money goes into.

1316
01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:00.359
And it's just can't isn't there like
another way? Like there's got well?

1317
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:02.359
I think the depressing part about that
is that you know, all these all

1318
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:05.319
these guys working on these games think
they have a shot. You know,

1319
01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:09.520
they're thinking they think that, like, you know, this this modern military

1320
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.159
shooter that we're making, this is
gonna be the one that that overthrows everything,

1321
01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:15.840
you know, and it's like a
world of warcraft. It's like you

1322
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:19.199
just right, you just keep keep
throwing something different and it'll topple the king.

1323
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.479
When that's not the way. That's
not the way that even modern warfare

1324
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:28.159
became. There were probably some people
at some point somewhere along the development of

1325
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:32.680
home Front that thought, we're doing
it, guys, we have it,

1326
01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:35.840
we got it in the bag.
Call of Duty's debt. Actually, I

1327
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:39.680
was just talking to Patrick, I
was back, what's up with all the

1328
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:44.520
invasion towards New York this year?
There? Yeah, I think that,

1329
01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:46.319
you know, it's it's all,
it's all, you know, directly in

1330
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:50.640
response to modern warfare too, where
it's like they got this huge response from

1331
01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:54.520
from people with like all right,
we're gonna you know, take the action

1332
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:57.439
to us soil and it's gonna be
this white the White House, and you're

1333
01:36:57.479 --> 01:36:59.800
gonna see these places that you know, but it's gonna be this you know,

1334
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.119
chaotic sort of setting, this crazy
thing that's happening there, and every

1335
01:37:03.159 --> 01:37:05.199
like, yeah, we can do
that too. I don't want to be

1336
01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:09.119
the one to say it. I'll
say it anyway. The South Park thing

1337
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.760
was right, we're now ten years
removed from nine to eleven, so it's

1338
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.560
okay to blow up New York again. Like that's actually okay now because we're

1339
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:16.840
now that ten year are pasted it, so it's like, okay, you

1340
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:20.680
know it's a longer a sensitive issue. It's just fine, so everyone do

1341
01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:27.359
it. Just so it's like everyone, no, no one thing you guys

1342
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:31.600
would talk about gun fatigue. I
also have DND fatigue. I also have

1343
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:39.960
physics game playphatic. I just recently
realized that like ninety nine percent of the

1344
01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:44.840
game today, when it's a platformer
or a shooter or a puzzle game,

1345
01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:50.079
they are all physics gameplay. And
I was thinking, Man, the early

1346
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:55.279
games like chess and all these other
things, they're not really about physics.

1347
01:37:55.279 --> 01:38:00.479
But today all the major games about
physics. But what if you could add

1348
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:06.359
physics to chess? I mean they
did that right? Actually yeah, I

1349
01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:11.359
just in general I have a little
bit of physics fatigue. So you want

1350
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:16.760
to stop physics, Well, go
back in time and stop Half Life two

1351
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:21.000
from being released. Just fixed this. It was it was those crates puzzles

1352
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:25.000
and started a lot of the crates
on this end of the seesaw, Like

1353
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:28.399
they're really hard to get there because
this is a physics engine and they don't

1354
01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.479
just snap to the spot where they're
supposed to be. Well, So,

1355
01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:33.159
for instance, like, what's something? Is there anything at E three that

1356
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:36.560
you've seen so far this year that
like actually felt like it was something,

1357
01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:43.439
uh that you were excited? I
think I GDC on an Indie game festival

1358
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:47.199
as a game cut maquette. It's
very similar to Porto. It lets you

1359
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:50.640
to see the word in a different
perspective. This is the forty game.

1360
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:55.119
No, It's like you're in this
tiny little room. There's a miniature stuff.

1361
01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:59.039
You can kind of move a right, and the tail water is changing,

1362
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:01.199
and that really it makes me to
look at the word differently. And

1363
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:05.720
I saw that was intellectually stimulating for
me, you know, like I really

1364
01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:13.760
want to try it out, and
uh, this is three. Let's see,

1365
01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:24.479
this is surprisingly I'm actually quite excited
for the tumb Raider really because you

1366
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:29.600
know, when when I played games, my most impressive game is always the

1367
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:33.199
very first in its genre that's done
very well. Like right now, if

1368
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:38.960
I'm thinking about horror game, I'm
thinking about the first Resident Evil when the

1369
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.680
dog jumps out. Yeah, I
was my heart beat so fast I clear

1370
01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:51.800
the entire clip and I didn't get
the dog A yeah, that's that's what

1371
01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:56.920
I remember. What I noticed is
that, Yeah, the first time I

1372
01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:00.920
had a very strong emotional response from
a game, that game stays with me

1373
01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:03.439
with my entire life. You know, if I trying to remember what would

1374
01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:09.439
the game, I remember coming to
Concorde. That's the first rest time stretched

1375
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:13.800
with all the FMV and that really
makes me feel like, you know,

1376
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:19.199
I'm there. So when I saw
all our crafts, and this is very

1377
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:23.920
different. You know, she's not
that, you know, expert whatever,

1378
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:29.119
be skiller or whatever, but now
she's a survivor and the sense of survival

1379
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:35.119
is there, at least in the
pre rendered promote promotion videos and in the

1380
01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:40.840
game play video. It looks also
pretty good. So I feel like I

1381
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:45.479
have never played a game, well
I've I'm really struggling trying to survive.

1382
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.960
I don't remember. And I think
if this game can pull it off,

1383
01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:53.880
and so far it looks good,
I think it will be a memorable experience.

1384
01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:59.079
I actually got to play that.
That opening sequences that they were showing

1385
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:03.479
today, or the opening sequence that
they showed at the Microsoft Press conference.

1386
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.600
I got to play that today.
Uh, and it's I mean, you

1387
01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:09.640
know it is that. It's you
know, it's a lot of quick time

1388
01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:12.960
events that you're you're kind of moving
forward through it. It's not you know,

1389
01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:16.439
necessarily highly interactive. There's like the
one puzzle where there's the thing you

1390
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.159
have to lift up and set the
things on fire and you know, kind

1391
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:23.560
of clear the pathage. It's it's
all just about like you're trying to escape

1392
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:27.680
from this place. But it is
all about how it's presented. It is

1393
01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.640
about, you know, the the
tension that they're trying to create with the

1394
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.399
way the camera moves, and you
know this kind of claustrophobic feel and and

1395
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:38.399
her disorientation, and you know,
it's it's it is a lot about the

1396
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:43.640
production values. What I like is
the Mortal Kombat stuff on herself. So

1397
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.520
she falls downald and she has to
pull a bullet out right, those stuff

1398
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:51.399
self Mortal Kombat. Yeah, that
really cool. You know, I can

1399
01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:56.520
feel the pain there. That's that's
amazing. But at the same time,

1400
01:41:56.600 --> 01:42:00.880
I'm also kind of disturbed by a
lot of moaning. I mentioned that it

1401
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:08.680
was really porn. It wasn't important. It was watching I drink it.

1402
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:15.640
But John Drake is just off camera
making really loud gestures. But I say,

1403
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:17.760
authentic to the originally. Well,
one of the things we talked about

1404
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:20.800
this a little bit last night in
regard that demo, I think some people

1405
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:25.600
are at least a little bit uncomfortable
with the notion of you know, women

1406
01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.119
in peril. You know, it's
something that's always portrayed in movies and in

1407
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:31.239
fiction, is like, you know, women in peril have to be rescued.

1408
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:33.279
You know, we don't like seeing
it. We don't want to see

1409
01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:38.119
it. So when you have someone
like Laura Croft, who has previously been

1410
01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:43.960
kind of a preternatural badass, like
writhing on the ground, like pulling out

1411
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:46.279
her rib and like, you know, just like screaming in pain, you're

1412
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:50.600
just like, this is really uncomfortable
because just culturally, that's not something we're

1413
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:56.319
you know, used to seeing opening
games. Yeah, they seriously beat the

1414
01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:58.479
ship up, the fuck her up
real bad. It's it's it's you know,

1415
01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:01.840
they don't That's that's why I think
it's something I haven't seen before,

1416
01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:05.319
and that's why I think there's a
potential will be amazed at the game.

1417
01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:10.600
I really hope they can put it
together. So do people not feel the

1418
01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:14.520
same way about like Nathan Drake at
the beginning of Uncharted two where he shot

1419
01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:15.720
me he's hanging up a train everything, it's just this, Well, no,

1420
01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:19.640
because we're a customed to that,
and because you know he's gonna get

1421
01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:21.399
out of it, and they kind
of play that. We see it with

1422
01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:26.279
a woman. They're up for comedy
in a sense too. I think like

1423
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:38.600
Nathan Drake's kind of lighthearted nature he's
chuckling while he's dangling. Yeah, very

1424
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:43.039
much. The jump, scaling you
with a bullet hole in you, hanging

1425
01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:46.319
up the train record anything. Let's
let's get some some E three highlights from

1426
01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:51.199
you. Anything that you've seen from
the show so far that I feel like

1427
01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:56.000
I'm the only one that's just that's
huge champion for this game. But Twist

1428
01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.479
the Metal was a huge part of
my youth. Yeah, Twist Metal two

1429
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:01.000
is like one of my favorite games. You should have come out last night

1430
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:04.039
when David Jaffie, he was sitting
in your very spots, oh Man,

1431
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:08.439
for hours. David jaffe sat there, guys, great, yeah, because

1432
01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:11.800
it was precious commodity. We should
we should manufacture more. He was.

1433
01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:16.039
He was awesome in here last night. Twist Metal two is It's one of

1434
01:44:16.079 --> 01:44:18.840
my favorit games of all time.
And Black is fantastic. And now the

1435
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:23.640
guys that eats player are doing this
again and I got to play it yesterday

1436
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:27.840
and it plays like a dream.
I mean, it's fantastic. It's they've

1437
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:30.840
got these giant, you know,
large scale boss battles that you never really

1438
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:33.760
saw in the series that usually had
the like minion mid boss battle and he

1439
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:38.439
had a warrock or Dark too,
Like, I like, I've been wanting

1440
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:42.479
a full scale twisted Metal to come
back since Black Like head On was great,

1441
01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:45.800
it was a great PSP launch title, right, the extent of the

1442
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.680
edition was great, But I mean, I want a full on online twisted

1443
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.720
Metal, and we're finally getting that, and I could not be more excited.

1444
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.199
So so let me ask you a
question about this. What do you

1445
01:44:56.239 --> 01:45:00.000
think about the viability of you know, a car combat game in twenty eleven,

1446
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:01.640
Like, this is a genre that
a bunch is has you know,

1447
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:05.279
fallen out of favor, Uh,
you know, has they They just haven't

1448
01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:12.359
been making them, especially specifically in
that very traditional kind of twisted metal format,

1449
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:15.279
a really long time. And I
just have to wonder, Like I

1450
01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:17.720
see that game, and and you
know, I'm not trying to question the

1451
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:21.720
development abilities of of of the team, but I wonder, like, you

1452
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:25.039
know, it's like they're gonna put
this time into this. They've been working

1453
01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:27.840
on this for a while now,
Like when they put this out, like,

1454
01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:31.399
is there going to be enough people
that go like that have that that

1455
01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:34.560
feeling for for twisted metal? They're
gonna be like, Yes, twistmels Back

1456
01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:39.880
and I want this or or has
just time moved on? You know,

1457
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:43.359
even at its peak, that genre
was never It wasn't called duty like I

1458
01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:45.920
mean Twisted Metal was like I mean, for it's time, nothing really was

1459
01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:48.920
there. The first when I bought
my PlayStation, the first game I got

1460
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:57.840
was Twisted number one. Yeah,
so it was loaded. I did not

1461
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:00.600
after playing loaded. I didn't but
know that there were there were knockoffs of

1462
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:04.039
Twist of Metal, your Eights and
that sort of stuff of the of the

1463
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:10.119
World, and there's Star Wars one
around that time. It was a little

1464
01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:12.680
different. It was never wooded though, like I mean, you had Twist

1465
01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:15.880
Metal, you eight, I mean, how many others w w E crush

1466
01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:23.239
Out there was? There was one
where you were underwater and sub critical death.

1467
01:46:24.079 --> 01:46:26.760
There was. There was the Star
Wars one. Oh my god,

1468
01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.920
yeah there was a Star Wars.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1469
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:36.840
push back here. Yes it was
flooded battle. How many people bought Rogue

1470
01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.520
Trip? How many people bought home
Front? I mean, you know,

1471
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:47.359
just because you know six Yeah,
guy from th HQ FU. By the

1472
01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:51.159
way, I have some people from
Chaos coming in tomorrow, so sorry about

1473
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:58.039
that. So actually, because it's
a David Jaffic game, I have not

1474
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:04.800
played Twist about it unfortunately. And
uh I overheard someone mentioned when David Jeffrey

1475
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:09.840
was directing the first of God of
War, it was related to his life

1476
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:15.840
at that time. So there's a
lot of rage and anger in the game.

1477
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:20.199
And I'm wondering, Man, yeah, I'm wondering if there's there's a

1478
01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:26.720
similar vibe in Twist and Metal Compared
Metal. I mean, it's just kind

1479
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:29.359
of laid up for like comic silliness
for the most part. I mean,

1480
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.840
like Black was probably the darkest to
guy for sure. Like Black, some

1481
01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:34.720
of those stories and cuts and stuff
were super duper dark. But I mean

1482
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:38.720
it's just it's a silly series.
I mean, you're shooting a statue of

1483
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.439
Liberty and she turns into a background
and a bikini. Like I mean,

1484
01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:45.800
like they clearly don't take it super
seriously. So once again we're blowing up

1485
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:48.640
New York, is what you're saying. Wait, wait this this new one.

1486
01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:53.720
You shoot that statue of it that
was Metal, but like with Black,

1487
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:57.119
it got a little more serious,
and this one feels a little more

1488
01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:00.399
like Two than Black. It's I
think it's gonna be teen and it's it's

1489
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:04.960
it's not super dark. It feels
like to a very silly arcade, like

1490
01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:09.000
ma'am. And it's kind of like
you know what they did with Warhawk.

1491
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:13.119
You know, it's pickup based arcade
gameplay. You know, everyone starts in

1492
01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:15.840
the same level. You pick up
weapons, and can you still tap out

1493
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:19.880
like button combos to shoot freeze and
stuff? Oh my god, I totally

1494
01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:24.199
forgot about that left right up for
freeze. I haven't roll, but now

1495
01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:27.800
it's all one tap, so instead
of doing right left down to shoot your

1496
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:30.880
fire missile behind you, it's down, okay, which I don't know why

1497
01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:32.680
they just did the first place.
This should just give you the option to

1498
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:35.840
still do the reasse. You didn't
have an analog stick on some of that

1499
01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:39.479
stuff, and you were using this
thing you steered with to do it exactly.

1500
01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:41.479
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
so now it's like, you want

1501
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:43.560
to lay mine, you hit left. If you want to do the freeze

1502
01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:45.039
thing, which is now an MP, you hit out. So is that

1503
01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:47.279
literally the only game you like for
me? Three? So no, no,

1504
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:49.800
no, no, no, every
everything looks great, like I'm charted.

1505
01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:54.119
I'm super thrilled about Yeah, I
saw that today as well. You

1506
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:58.359
know, I actually played a Skyward
Sword for a while and it's which thing.

1507
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:01.199
Some of that motion BLUs stuff is
pret good. Like every enemy encounter

1508
01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:04.439
is kind of like a miniature puzzle. Like there's the Skultolas the dank from

1509
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:08.039
the ceiling and you got to cut
them down, but then like they've got

1510
01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:11.920
this shelled back and you have to
like use the motion plus to basically put

1511
01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:15.159
your controller down and like flip them
up, flip over, and you gotta

1512
01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:18.640
stab. Like every enemy kind of
has that motion control stuff that actually works,

1513
01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:23.600
though it doesn't seem super gimmicky,
but otherwise it's still You're you're finding

1514
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.800
keys and fighting bosses. Is that
do you think that's you know, differentiating

1515
01:49:26.840 --> 01:49:30.039
stuff enough from you know, is
it still a dam Zela game. It's

1516
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:33.319
a dam zel the game. Everyone? Do you get a boomerang? I

1517
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:40.840
have not seen the boomerang yet?
Were you do you get a super boomerang?

1518
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:46.119
A Tornado boomerang? Yeah? What
they had that Twilight Princess. Yeah,

1519
01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:49.359
No, it was good and like
I'm a huge Zella fan, and

1520
01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:55.560
it did enough different to get me
excited about it, Like cool Twilight Princess,

1521
01:49:55.560 --> 01:49:58.760
Like the wolf thing didn't really do
it for me, and you know,

1522
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:01.439
the implementation of the the Wee stuff
was pretty ear Yeah, so that

1523
01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:05.000
game felt like it was for me. That game felt like they had reached

1524
01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:12.239
like very close to the end of
the number of times they could just remake

1525
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:15.600
that that exact blue print with I
don't know how you're wolfing. Yeah,

1526
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:23.079
they'll be like nine dungeons. Yeah, So like even even Skyward Stard to

1527
01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:27.760
some extent, like it's it's hard
for me to accept it at face value,

1528
01:50:27.880 --> 01:50:29.880
Like it's one of those things.
I'm gonna wait until this is done

1529
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:31.520
and we'll seek well, Like I
like when I was seeing the demos,

1530
01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:35.279
I was kind of getting a little
interested, but only because I skipped Twilight

1531
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:39.279
Princess, So like I've kind of
forgotten the formula a little bit enough that

1532
01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:41.680
like, yeah, I guess I'll
play in one of the I'll play Okreen

1533
01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:44.279
at time again with like a new
skin on. And it's it's weird to

1534
01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:45.560
say because it's, you know,
it is still this kind of like new

1535
01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:49.079
thing, and I think the seat
was really different, but like Dark Siders,

1536
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:53.439
Yeah, like out Zelda Zella for
me in a lot of ways,

1537
01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:55.520
like you know, it's like seeing
the stuff that you guys have been doing

1538
01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:59.560
about Dark Siders too, It's just
like, oh yeah, yeah. But

1539
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:04.319
it's like even with you know,
wind Waker, like gamers at least at

1540
01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:11.680
first, like completely rejected that game
the last every time Nintendo tried to be

1541
01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:15.840
progressive like about it, like you
know, Luigi's Mansion, like people,

1542
01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.399
people immediately go, no, I
know, luis Mansion two is great.

1543
01:51:18.479 --> 01:51:24.000
Let me finish my point some meek
silent, but but you know that I

1544
01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.199
think, like Reggie actually made a
point about that, like in the press

1545
01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:30.600
conference, like we try to do
something different, you ding us for doing

1546
01:51:30.640 --> 01:51:33.239
something different because you want because you
wanted the same. Then we do the

1547
01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:36.159
same, and you ding us for
doing something different. How are we supposed

1548
01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:42.039
to win? That should come up? We discovered that you guys are real

1549
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:48.119
assholes. Cross is always greener on
the other side. Yeah, I just

1550
01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:51.680
I can't blame you for getting into
the kind of nostalgia thing this year,

1551
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:55.279
because I honestly, like, one
of my favorite games of the show is

1552
01:51:55.359 --> 01:52:00.000
Luigi's Mansion two. I really was
so seriously that game is so much better

1553
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:02.720
than it has any right to be. Uh, you know, I mean

1554
01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:09.560
it's I'm sorry, it's the fuck
Jesus Christ. Someone disagrees with me.

1555
01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:14.199
Apparently it was a ghost. Stop
Adam, just stop. You're not turning

1556
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:17.600
the gas back over there? Grab
assing over there? Would you too much?

1557
01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:21.279
Grab ass? I played a bunch
of three DS games today, and

1558
01:52:21.439 --> 01:52:24.279
you know, most of them are
three DS games. Yeah, hey,

1559
01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:27.680
checked out's Mario Kart, but it's
on a three DS. But that was

1560
01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:30.520
the one game I actually played where
it was like the three D actually did

1561
01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:33.880
something for me because it's all on
kind of a fixed camera perspective and the

1562
01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:38.720
way they have the depth with you
know, the way with Luigi run around

1563
01:52:38.800 --> 01:52:42.960
like catching ghosts and stuff. It
actually looks really really fucking good excellent,

1564
01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:45.479
and it's fun. I mean it's
it's like a did you like we just

1565
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.039
managing at all? Yeah? Well, I mean it's it's that's like a

1566
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:57.279
crowd like, yeah, that's me
going. So that's over there is a

1567
01:52:57.319 --> 01:53:00.560
weird, weird game to me,
because I know, I remember, you

1568
01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:01.960
know, that's a GameCube launch game. I remember, you know, getting

1569
01:53:01.960 --> 01:53:05.479
it with my GameCube, playing it, enjoying it well enough. But it

1570
01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:11.159
was a fairly simple game and uh
and and one that at the time,

1571
01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:13.680
you know a lot of people were
kind of like, you know, it's

1572
01:53:13.720 --> 01:53:15.880
it's okay, Like there was a
lot of like, yeah, it was.

1573
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:21.359
It was more because they were pissed
because there wasn't a Mario like every

1574
01:53:21.399 --> 01:53:24.880
time it to try to say,
hey, let's do something different, like

1575
01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:28.600
unless they shove it down your throat. But so so what their legacy bites

1576
01:53:28.720 --> 01:53:30.039
bites them in there. So I
found it really weird that when they said,

1577
01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:32.439
and we're doing Luigi's Mansion two and
everyone's like, fuck, yeah,

1578
01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:35.399
Luis Mansion two. I love Luisa. I'm like, that's really not the

1579
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:39.840
response I remember hearing when that game
came out, Like, I enjoyed it

1580
01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:45.800
well enough. It wasn't was not
one of my all time favorites, but

1581
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:47.960
you know, kind of something unique
and it had a great art style.

1582
01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:51.760
Yeah, and it had a unique
thing to it, but well and also

1583
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:56.600
Luigi in that game was adorable,
Like he was just like so freaked out

1584
01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.239
the whole damn game and it was
awesome. I love that, And that's

1585
01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.079
why I actually like Luigi in general. Is there a Mario button in Luigi's

1586
01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:05.279
Mansion too? Not in the demo? I saw. I don't know,

1587
01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:11.119
but like I'm not gonna sell the
game as more than it is. It's

1588
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:14.000
like Luigi's Mansion. It's a fairly
simple game. You're running around, you

1589
01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.199
are catching ghosts, you are collecting
coins. You know, they're finding keys

1590
01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:19.359
and stuff. It's a damn mansion
and there are ghosts, but it is

1591
01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:23.640
fun. There's like eight mansions the
sun. Yeah, it's fun. It's

1592
01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:28.560
one to call Luigi's Mansions. Was
that the first game that really gave Luigi

1593
01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:31.800
personality? Because you know, no, but I mean you get a voice

1594
01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:34.439
in other games, well, like
the Mario and Luigi, like the d

1595
01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:38.880
S Harpugs or the Game Boy Advanced
ones. He's hilarious because everyone's like shitting

1596
01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:43.079
on him the whole time, right, but like he's ineffect the Japanese version

1597
01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:45.960
of Super Mario Brothers too, you
could jump higher, done person all personality

1598
01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:51.520
need We're all started. Mario is
missing. That was it, That's where

1599
01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:56.039
it began. No, No,
I think that's that's a valid point.

1600
01:54:56.119 --> 01:54:59.800
So of question, when's the last
time Nintendo started a new IP was a

1601
01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:04.039
new character? Oh wow? Pickman? Oh oh. Miameto does claim that

1602
01:55:05.039 --> 01:55:09.600
the we Fit balance board is a
new character, and that well, it's

1603
01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:14.800
what's the island and we sports resort
that's a character too. Oh? Also,

1604
01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:19.000
your mean no money is the new
character. Pickman is probably the last.

1605
01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:23.159
If they go and make a follow
up to if they like go with

1606
01:55:23.159 --> 01:55:27.199
Sega and make like another fighter's Mega
mix and then you play as the balance

1607
01:55:27.239 --> 01:55:30.359
board in a fighting game, then
they can call it a character. If

1608
01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:32.840
if an Island is on one side
of that fight, it's like, here's

1609
01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:39.399
this girl from Fighting Vipers and an
Island go, then they can follow island

1610
01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:44.119
character. But Island versus the balance
board? Who wins? Yeah? Oh,

1611
01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:48.439
you can stand on both of them. I don't know, Ryan,

1612
01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:51.319
I've got one for you. Okay, the way we started talking on Twitter?

1613
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:56.880
Yeah wa Luigi. Yeah, he's
the worst thing in there. He's

1614
01:55:57.039 --> 01:56:06.880
absolutely abortion. Luigi game is an
abortive travesty because anyone with amazing no mansions

1615
01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:14.239
world. Listen, Dan, if
you're appreciating him ironically, I'm going to

1616
01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:17.920
give you a pass. But Wall
Luigi is the laziest ship Nintendo has every

1617
01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:23.520
day. It's awesome. Is that? Okay? With Warrio it made sense

1618
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:26.680
because he turned them upside down.
So I actually so after I took you

1619
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:31.399
to on this one, sucking dud
dude started talking about how like in Japanese

1620
01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:36.399
the wa is a play on words, and so when you say wa Luigi,

1621
01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:41.600
it's like dark, like there's there's
this whole turn it upside down,

1622
01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:47.319
but yeah, you his hat is
an upside down game would be a Tetris

1623
01:56:47.359 --> 01:56:51.880
game because you're just turning it ELL's
upside down future upside now called raw Luigi.

1624
01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:56.119
You know whatever what I'm saying is
it. Wall Luigi's game would be

1625
01:56:56.199 --> 01:56:59.720
fucking suicide fuel because no one wouldn't
play that, and it's the worst thing.

1626
01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:01.520
I would be first in line at
the midnight and you would be the

1627
01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:06.119
first person hanging yourself an hour later, well finished Wallouigi's game. Guesses nothing

1628
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:14.399
left? It's Mario Tennis. The
first time I played Mario Tennis on sixty

1629
01:57:14.479 --> 01:57:16.319
four, I seriously went through the
characters like screen They're like, who's this

1630
01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:18.800
purple guy over here? And I
went over and I saw his name was

1631
01:57:18.840 --> 01:57:25.720
Wallouigi. I was like, what
really like? Mario donn sixty four was

1632
01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:27.880
that it? I'm the first one, was the first one, And have

1633
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:30.640
you seen the intro for Mario Power
Tennis on game Cube. Yeah, it's

1634
01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:32.479
amazing. It's like twenty five minutes
long. It goes on for a while.

1635
01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:38.039
It's ridiculous. It's Wrio and Walluigi. Oh, it's it's the best.

1636
01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:41.439
He needs the game he needs.
So so here's my question, like

1637
01:57:41.479 --> 01:57:43.800
are they brothers? Like what's to
tell me more about wall Luigi? Like

1638
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:47.079
is there any sort of backstory?
Have you any Wallouiji fan fiction slash fiction?

1639
01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:58.560
Yeah, but it's Mario Wallouigi.
Uh, I don't know, it's

1640
01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:02.399
Mario Mario. We've never heard it's
Warrior Warrio Mariomo. I just want to

1641
01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:05.439
know, Like the movie's not Cannon, I think, yeah, yeah,

1642
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:13.079
yeah Moto. So actually, today
I had a talk with u Ario.

1643
01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:16.279
She's a producer from Kill Games.
She was demonstrating side score next to us,

1644
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.279
so I was asking her. You
know, last time I talked to

1645
01:58:20.479 --> 01:58:27.039
Squirrel Nix, I was very surprised
to find out that the male and female

1646
01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:32.159
distribution on people who play Final Fantasy
is very close to fifty fifty in Japan.

1647
01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:39.439
But I don't think that's the case
here right, So I was just

1648
01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:45.399
thinking, man, how many women
actually know the Mario franchise? I mean

1649
01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:48.680
I think it's so ubiquitous at this
point that I think everyone just kind of

1650
01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:51.640
is aware of it. But you
know, you're talking about in terms of

1651
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:58.600
playing it. But what about warrior. I haven't gotten many ladies thoughts.

1652
01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:01.039
Yeah, you what you should do? You should make it okay cupid profile.

1653
01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:04.199
Let's say you know what I love
it is? Wall Luigi, like,

1654
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:09.840
do some aspirational quotes, like you
know, I have a dream Dan.

1655
01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:12.279
I'm gonna throw down the gauntlet here. The next time you go on

1656
01:59:12.359 --> 01:59:15.159
a date, I want you to
just talk all about I didn't alter.

1657
01:59:16.279 --> 01:59:18.920
Just just no, no, no, no no no no no no no.

1658
01:59:19.079 --> 01:59:21.439
I'm saying, when you're on the
date, just say, guys,

1659
01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:29.000
Starfie s yeah, yeah, Starf's
awesome. Is now I got the one

1660
01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:34.039
here Starfi Larfy's legendary survey. I
guess a start, this is a good

1661
01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:41.239
starfes good. I guess that's post. I guess that's post big ye,

1662
01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:56.199
I guess I'm sayin that's title which
one? I say Akarina time? Wait?

1663
01:59:56.279 --> 01:59:59.279
What what's the what's the thing?
Though? Everyone says I say Akarina

1664
01:59:59.359 --> 02:00:01.279
wrong and EPI do you guys say
at pona, I say a pona,

1665
02:00:01.359 --> 02:00:09.600
I say. Everyone says it's Okarina
time. Well, he says, Okarina,

1666
02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:12.680
that's regional. You do that.
Yeah, it's a Midwest thing,

1667
02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.720
except you're from the Midwest, so
I don't really matter that you like Walluigi.

1668
02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:20.720
Let's not va man like one of
those fat head stickers on my wall.

1669
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:25.960
I just wallow. All right,
Well you we're gonna wrap up this

1670
02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:30.680
section here, Dan Dan reicherd any
any closing thoughts here for your your time

1671
02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:34.000
on the couch, I'm having a
good time, fantastic coming and you can

1672
02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:36.520
stay and hanging for a bit,
but we're gonna take another break and we're

1673
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:40.239
gonna rotate some new folks through.
Do you know, thank you so much

1674
02:00:40.239 --> 02:00:43.039
for your time than people having me
here. It was it was a real

1675
02:00:43.079 --> 02:00:46.279
pleasure meeting you and having you here
and talking to you some folks on the

1676
02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:49.840
live stream. We're gonna take another
quick break, bring in some new dudes,

1677
02:00:49.960 --> 02:01:27.479
so stick on a new dud and
we'll be back momentarily and welcome back

1678
02:01:27.600 --> 02:01:34.119
to part three of our Day three
three, twenty eleven live wrap up featuring

1679
02:01:34.479 --> 02:01:42.840
some hot beat boxing. Canadian beatboxing
the deadliest form of beatboxing, but love

1680
02:01:42.960 --> 02:01:46.920
beatboxing. I am too tired now
to even introduce everyone here on the couches.

1681
02:01:46.920 --> 02:01:50.079
We've got a full fresh cruise,
so everyonelet's let's just run down the

1682
02:01:50.159 --> 02:01:55.199
line here and and everyone introduce yourselves
and say where you're from. Please,

1683
02:01:56.399 --> 02:02:00.880
Yeah, you have to pick who's
gonna start start? You are you Swedish

1684
02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:06.640
Founderson? You know I'm actually with
Overkilled Software. I'm just a dude,

1685
02:02:06.720 --> 02:02:10.880
man, just a dude. And
next to you, even dude to your

1686
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:15.520
dude Lang from the Mighty Mighty Iron
going. Do you guys have changed your

1687
02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:24.439
name then you've added mighty mighty very
good Krakava formerly of the band known as

1688
02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:30.920
Microsoft Chris Charlie Microsoft, currently of
the band Microsoft. Stuff's being thrown around

1689
02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:36.079
over here on this couch. Uh, my name is Jump vignaka Whippo Didney

1690
02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:43.399
over here. We got Adam boys
over for coming to go beefy media.

1691
02:02:45.439 --> 02:02:51.199
You guys, you guys make awful
beef jerky. Yeah. Sultan Satan contains

1692
02:02:51.279 --> 02:02:56.359
beef from one or more of the
following sources. Argentina, Australia, Brazil,

1693
02:02:56.479 --> 02:03:00.640
Canada, New Zealand States. Yeah, it's basically version dunger rolls is

1694
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:06.279
what it is closer to dirt than
dirt. Basically. Anyway, I'm Simon

1695
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:11.680
Simon Vicklin and I'm with old On
over killed. Yeah, I don't know

1696
02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:15.359
that guy. I don't know when
disavowing you all, just Simon Thicklin,

1697
02:03:15.720 --> 02:03:20.159
gentlemen, thank you guys for coming
in here to not least of all John

1698
02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:26.279
Viniaki, who has had a terrifying
journey. I got married, man few

1699
02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:32.239
weeks. That was That was the
Holy cow? Say about the part I

1700
02:03:32.319 --> 02:03:39.039
almost died, the part where you
almost died that was married? Can't we

1701
02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:42.359
talk about that? Are we?
Are you comfortable enough to talk about your

1702
02:03:42.399 --> 02:03:45.399
death experience. I'm comfortable enough to
talk about it. But the gig basically

1703
02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:50.119
is this. I just wanted to
say I got the cute pancreatitis from mute

1704
02:03:50.640 --> 02:03:57.840
acute. Okay, anyway, so
long story short, though, I think

1705
02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:00.199
what's actually the most important thing I
want to say about this, if I

1706
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:02.760
even had the chance thank you very
much, is thanks to everyone you know,

1707
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:06.439
Ryan, Jeff, all the guys
at giant Bomb, the entire community.

1708
02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:12.159
You guys have been super awesome.
All the tweets and forum posts and

1709
02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:15.319
messages from everyone. I just as
sick as a dog as I was.

1710
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:18.039
To get all that stuff meant the
world to me and helped me recover even

1711
02:04:18.119 --> 02:04:21.039
quicker. So thanks to Giant Bomb
community, thanks to all you guys.

1712
02:04:21.439 --> 02:04:24.880
It was. It was so crazy. It was such a crazy thing though,

1713
02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:27.960
because you were you were just coming
off so you just got married,

1714
02:04:28.039 --> 02:04:30.880
literally had just gotten married. I
had gone off to the Bahamas for your

1715
02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:34.800
honeymoon, and it was like everything
went off without it. So so i'd

1716
02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:38.319
actually been at your house. I
was staying. I was crashing at your

1717
02:04:38.359 --> 02:04:41.239
place, like the weekend before you
got married, that's true, and I

1718
02:04:41.359 --> 02:04:45.439
was. I was there in your
living room watching you like rehearse your your

1719
02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:48.479
first dance for the weld, which
should not go exactly as plan. It

1720
02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:54.039
was still fantastic, but it was
to his wife, it was like thirty

1721
02:04:54.079 --> 02:04:59.399
five percent accuracy. It was like
that's what she told me to like sixty

1722
02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:01.640
drinks. They're like, now,
dude, the opening dance a dirty dancing.

1723
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:08.720
I'm like, it was a pretty
Yeah, it was a wreck anyway

1724
02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:13.000
E three. But but there was, but there was we're not changing the

1725
02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:16.079
subject yet, but they're like it
was it was a big fucking deal like

1726
02:05:16.199 --> 02:05:18.800
that, Like you guys put on
a huge god damn production. I was

1727
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:23.359
just thinking like, yeah, this
is we spent six fucking grand and dancing

1728
02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:29.000
lessons? What whoa were worth?
Every must have been way more, Johnny

1729
02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:30.600
like how much? No, I
just I just want to tell you how

1730
02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:38.000
much money I flushed down the toilet
and I hear it, Jo you see

1731
02:05:38.039 --> 02:05:41.640
it right there. It's it's like
investment. Wow. And I'm like,

1732
02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.960
well, we had a great we
had a great time learning how to dance

1733
02:05:45.239 --> 02:05:47.840
out of yourself. I almost feel
like we have to give Adrian mike so

1734
02:05:47.960 --> 02:05:50.199
she can respond to this stuff like
you having a mic and her being in

1735
02:05:50.279 --> 02:05:54.159
the room that when she's drinking.
It's not fair, kid, I'm just

1736
02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:59.119
kidding. I'm just right, But
I was. I was thinking, like,

1737
02:05:59.279 --> 02:06:01.600
you know, it was like a
fucking choir, like all this crazy

1738
02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:04.720
shit happening at the wedding and then
you you go off to the Bahamas for

1739
02:06:04.760 --> 02:06:08.800
your for your honeymoon. I was
thinking like, okay, it's it's obviously

1740
02:06:08.920 --> 02:06:12.239
bad news. That's this is the
pancreatis happened. Yeah. It was like

1741
02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:15.680
like, god, this could have
happened like a like a few days sooner,

1742
02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:19.439
and just how many more crazy things. This would have completely fucked up

1743
02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:23.239
what you're saying. A lot of
money got spent on this, this whole

1744
02:06:23.319 --> 02:06:27.239
giant productions. Yeah, we had
Mario and Princess peach cake toppers too,

1745
02:06:27.600 --> 02:06:31.439
Yes, in those. Actually we
got him on Etsy really cheap. Someone

1746
02:06:31.600 --> 02:06:38.840
custom made them, honey eighteen bucks. So that's where that's that's where the

1747
02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:41.640
difference was made up. It was
that that was gonna be like six grand.

1748
02:06:41.800 --> 02:06:44.199
But then you're like, well we
were able to. It made me

1749
02:06:44.239 --> 02:06:45.880
feel so dumb about saying that.
It was just I should have just said

1750
02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:50.239
there was a lot of money for
the dancing lessons, and yeah, Arthur

1751
02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:54.920
Murray dance studios there. It is. Actually, it's so funny. This

1752
02:06:55.079 --> 02:06:58.159
is okay. So now I sorry
to tie this in, to tie this

1753
02:06:58.319 --> 02:07:02.079
into video games. Right. It's
a bunch of dudes from Respawn that dance

1754
02:07:02.319 --> 02:07:05.399
at the same dance studio that I
dance at Sherman Oaks. You heard it

1755
02:07:05.479 --> 02:07:08.800
here first, I sweet, yeah, So I'm like sitting there, we

1756
02:07:08.840 --> 02:07:13.560
walk in there, there's a bunch
of dudes wearing PlayStation and and Respawn shirts,

1757
02:07:13.600 --> 02:07:15.720
and I'm like, oh, what's
this? And so I asked my

1758
02:07:15.840 --> 02:07:17.640
dance instructor, like, oh yeah, I guess you know, something happened

1759
02:07:17.680 --> 02:07:21.720
with their company. They like made
the biggest like shooting game ever, and

1760
02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:26.199
then they got in trouble and so
they all left and formed their own company.

1761
02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:36.199
And now they expressed themselves through damceutic
Like, is it a company mandated

1762
02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:40.279
thing? You know? I haven't
asked yet. Okay, maybe we'll see

1763
02:07:40.359 --> 02:07:43.279
like a dance dance game from respond. Well, no, it's a sci

1764
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:48.800
fi shooter, so okay, connect
right, you must have forced that down

1765
02:07:48.840 --> 02:07:56.159
their throat spoilery. I'm sorry,
sorry, that's now, you know,

1766
02:07:56.319 --> 02:07:58.359
like that, I can see him
plotting right now. It's like, I'm

1767
02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:01.479
gonna get you been here. I
don't think I don't think that's really you

1768
02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:07.119
are. No Microsoft, you know
that, right, Charlie. You want

1769
02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:09.840
to you want to explain to both
I guess Johnny and the audience because apparently

1770
02:08:09.920 --> 02:08:13.159
he needs it as well, what
it is that you do at Microsoft.

1771
02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:18.600
So I'm the portfolio director for xp
LA for Microsoft Game Studios, so that

1772
02:08:18.680 --> 02:08:24.279
cons worldwide. So specifically that means
that you're you're you're finding games to uh

1773
02:08:24.800 --> 02:08:30.319
to publish under the Microsoft Game Studio's
banner. Exactly, the curator of the

1774
02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:33.760
xp LA Museum of Wonderful Content.
So does that include like is that is

1775
02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:41.239
that like finding like outside independent developers
or like kind of like growing stuff internally

1776
02:08:41.439 --> 02:08:46.439
or mostly external and so literally scouring
the globe to find the best developers to

1777
02:08:46.560 --> 02:08:52.199
make cool games for XPLA. Are
you doing indo stuff or just other publishers

1778
02:08:52.239 --> 02:08:56.439
and stuff like? That's it?
Are you doing indie stuff too? Everybody?

1779
02:08:56.680 --> 02:09:00.600
Okay, not like Xbox Live indie
games, but indie developers in terms

1780
02:09:00.640 --> 02:09:03.000
of you know, small developers making
cool stuff cool? Did you find space

1781
02:09:03.079 --> 02:09:09.000
draft as before my time? That
also, by the way, it sounds

1782
02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:13.039
like the coolest job in the game
industry. It's really fun. I used

1783
02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:22.720
to be a developer and uh develop
quotes there, you know, I was.

1784
02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:26.279
I did a lot of shit in
a developer. From your press guys,

1785
02:09:26.760 --> 02:09:30.399
I was a press guy. Yeah, I was a press guy,

1786
02:09:30.520 --> 02:09:33.600
and then I was a developer.
Designer, producer is to have everything.

1787
02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:37.800
And so you'd always hang out with
developers at shows and they're obviously super cool,

1788
02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:39.439
and then you would pitch to publishers
who are very nice as well,

1789
02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:48.239
but not as good as Microsoft and
uh and but you just hear about all

1790
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.079
these cool games I called, man, I hope you get to make that

1791
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.640
game. I hope you get to
make that game. You had nothing you

1792
02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:54.479
could do. You just had to
try and make your own cool games.

1793
02:09:54.479 --> 02:09:56.840
And now that I'm on the other
side, on the publishing side, I

1794
02:09:56.880 --> 02:10:00.119
get to meet with all these cool
developers in like serious meetings and take come

1795
02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:01.960
out to lunch and dinner and it's
fun, and then kill their dreams.

1796
02:10:05.159 --> 02:10:09.479
We don't care. We don't happen. We don't get to say yes every

1797
02:10:09.520 --> 02:10:11.960
time. But when we see something
awesome, when we get to say yes,

1798
02:10:11.079 --> 02:10:15.880
and you help these guys realize their
dreams and get rich and famous and

1799
02:10:15.920 --> 02:10:18.479
do awesome stuff, and it's kind
of sweet. I love it. I'm

1800
02:10:18.520 --> 02:10:22.840
so glad, Simon, despite your
anger, we're we're able to find a

1801
02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:26.199
great deal and buying a commentary on
with Capcolm who we did that deal with.

1802
02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:33.640
So yeah, well that in there, I'll kind of you were playing

1803
02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:41.399
a former yeah, former job game, Jerky. It's the saltiest It's great.

1804
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:43.359
No, it's not, it's terrible. So, Johnny, have you

1805
02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:48.399
have you managed in your compromised form? Have you managed to hit E three

1806
02:10:48.479 --> 02:10:52.159
at all. I just I can't. I can no, no, I

1807
02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:54.319
can't I keep I give it.
Like a transformer that can't build into the

1808
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:58.760
Robot four, I can't always in
the track. Can he transformed? Is

1809
02:10:58.800 --> 02:11:03.880
that's I haven't seen that I'll have
seen is drunk Johnny V. So that's

1810
02:11:03.920 --> 02:11:07.000
and that's a standard form as far
as like Brian. When he came over,

1811
02:11:07.039 --> 02:11:09.319
I was like, why is there
so much Gatorade in your house?

1812
02:11:09.399 --> 02:11:15.479
I'm like a competitive drinking. It
wasn't because I'm working out a lot or

1813
02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:22.920
training for a marathon. It's because
because I desperately dehydrated every morning that I

1814
02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:28.960
wake up and on whatever. On
that weekend, we needed that gator that

1815
02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:33.199
worked out. That was a lot
of amicich. That was clutch too.

1816
02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:37.600
Have you have you been to three? What have you seen? What do

1817
02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:39.920
you like out there? What have
I seen? What have I likes?

1818
02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:46.000
It's interesting the no one thing that
I saw. It blew my mind.

1819
02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:48.720
This is non video game related.
Sorry, everybody. There's a castle with

1820
02:11:48.920 --> 02:11:54.680
girls in short shorts and foxtails and
you can go in and jump in into

1821
02:11:54.159 --> 02:11:58.239
has anyone's seen that? We were
there? We were there. Yeah,

1822
02:11:58.720 --> 02:12:01.479
I don't know where it was,
but I saw it. We were talking

1823
02:12:01.479 --> 02:12:03.880
about this yes yesterday, I forgot. I forget what booth it in,

1824
02:12:05.000 --> 02:12:07.239
but literally, like, you go
in there, you are supposed to chase

1825
02:12:07.399 --> 02:12:13.279
the girls and pluck the tails off
of them. That's the game. You

1826
02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.000
know. The line was empty.
And then they turned us like what's wrong

1827
02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:18.039
with you can't come in here and
bounce with us? And we're like,

1828
02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.760
oh man, because that's what I
want to be doing. If I'm too

1829
02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:26.039
embarrassed to go into that, I
want you to insult me. That's what's

1830
02:12:26.079 --> 02:12:28.920
gonna get me horny. For you
to have to bounce. You can just

1831
02:12:28.039 --> 02:12:31.039
lay there. One guy just laid
there. We bounced around him for like

1832
02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:37.000
ten minutes. Oh my god.
That's that's like that's like strip club harassment.

1833
02:12:37.199 --> 02:12:39.079
That's that's like, it's like a
whoever, it's a it's got to

1834
02:12:39.119 --> 02:12:46.079
be a former Midway marketing guy that
I'm like, this is never this a

1835
02:12:46.159 --> 02:12:52.439
Disney but this is all they see
ship like that, and you're just like

1836
02:12:52.640 --> 02:13:01.239
her fucking damn. It's just we
have no idea. Nobody sails and a

1837
02:13:01.319 --> 02:13:05.720
bunch of yeah so fouls of concepts. I wanted by there today and some

1838
02:13:05.920 --> 02:13:07.319
dudes get ready to go in.
This chick's holding with this one sheet of

1839
02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:09.840
a waiver. She's like, you
have to agree this waiver before you get

1840
02:13:09.880 --> 02:13:11.840
in. And that guy's like,
I just want to go joke with the

1841
02:13:11.920 --> 02:13:18.760
pretty ladies. We should a foxtail
just claim that it's for calls duty.

1842
02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:26.399
So software foxtails dot com up bounce
stuff. So any actual games that you

1843
02:13:26.479 --> 02:13:31.000
saw that you like? Okay,
thanks Brian, I'm trying to get back

1844
02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:37.720
on so John. Anyway, I've
seen the I've seen the uncharted Okay,

1845
02:13:37.399 --> 02:13:43.640
that looks that looks really good.
I've also seen the things in the Nintendo

1846
02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:48.880
where's this excent cod frones? Those
also look very nice. What does ice

1847
02:13:48.920 --> 02:13:52.920
Tea think of those games? Did
you see the Microsoft press conference when ice

1848
02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:56.800
te screwed up his lines? So
here's the here's the thing. He had

1849
02:13:56.840 --> 02:13:58.680
no lines? Oh did they were? They were like on the telepropter,

1850
02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:01.760
there were no lines for him there. He just decided, Yeah, I'm

1851
02:14:01.760 --> 02:14:05.439
gonna I'm getting my old rock band
back together. We're gonna do a cuttam

1852
02:14:05.520 --> 02:14:11.479
track bath on everyone favorite game mode. It's called horror mode, I mean

1853
02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:16.159
pod pod mode. But he did
that. I was like, oh man,

1854
02:14:16.439 --> 02:14:20.960
anyway, some other games I've seen, yes, so Gears of Ward.

1855
02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:28.960
Gears of War looks hot and Charlotte
looks hot. I am no offense.

1856
02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:31.640
But the Journey thing everyone's really in
love with. I don't see it

1857
02:14:31.760 --> 02:14:35.920
yet. Wasn't he just on the
show. I know, I just don't

1858
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:37.520
know. I didn't talk to him
about that. Guys, I know everyone's

1859
02:14:37.520 --> 02:14:43.319
like cool him say, it's really
fucking brown, but I haven't said anything

1860
02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:46.720
yet about it. Actually just did, Okay, I don't like it.

1861
02:14:46.840 --> 02:14:50.520
He's outside. I'm just I'm not
sold on it yet. I don't see

1862
02:14:50.520 --> 02:14:52.960
it. I don't like it.
Is it brown? It's a very brown

1863
02:14:52.039 --> 02:14:56.199
game? Oh? Okay, done? It's next yet? I guess right,

1864
02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:00.520
Oh, I'll tell you what they're
gonna say, fifty million units.

1865
02:15:00.560 --> 02:15:03.560
Then. My favorite game i've seen
the show though so far is Saints Ro

1866
02:15:03.680 --> 02:15:07.960
the Third. I mean, I
am like, I am the biggest Saints

1867
02:15:07.039 --> 02:15:11.359
RO fan. And tell John Drake
off camera is shaking his head violently,

1868
02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:13.640
you don't like that game? No, No, it's it's just that that

1869
02:15:13.800 --> 02:15:18.039
is the most John Vignaki possible choice. Yeah, Saints Ro the Third,

1870
02:15:18.119 --> 02:15:22.039
that's my jams. Well of course
it is. John, I'm thinking crazier

1871
02:15:22.119 --> 02:15:26.039
and crazier. It's like I saw
the Crab director and he's like, why

1872
02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.920
walk up and beat people with a
billy club when you can use a dildo?

1873
02:15:30.039 --> 02:15:33.640
And I'm like, exactly, It's
like you're inside my mind. It's

1874
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:37.920
like these guys are so brilliant.
So anyway, yeah, I'm really excited

1875
02:15:37.920 --> 02:15:41.479
about that. Well, John's like, why walk up and just play a

1876
02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:50.079
game when you could dance it with
jazz hands, finger tracking paint pictures.

1877
02:15:52.479 --> 02:15:56.000
Here we go, all right,
move on, Adam, We're moving on,

1878
02:15:56.119 --> 02:15:58.560
Adams. What are you? What
are you doing it? What are

1879
02:15:58.600 --> 02:16:01.880
you doing? Eddie? Three man
working working it? So you're you're part,

1880
02:16:01.920 --> 02:16:05.279
You're part You're part of that.
You're part of that shadowy three that

1881
02:16:05.319 --> 02:16:11.199
we were discussing earlier, the shadowy
three where you're in the upper levels and

1882
02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:16.520
the lower levels in the Kencha Hall. Yeah there, Hall's parking lot is

1883
02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:22.439
like rumble chairs still sit in them. Not not in Kencha Hall. People

1884
02:16:22.439 --> 02:16:24.319
aren't selling them. Ketch Hall is
literally a parking lot. Convinced me to

1885
02:16:24.359 --> 02:16:28.880
put one in there. Yeah,
then that's then you should probably cancel that

1886
02:16:28.960 --> 02:16:35.319
check as quickly as possible today.
Yeah, right off, Yeah, those

1887
02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:39.280
offs bizz. So have you been
have you been actually to the show?

1888
02:16:39.879 --> 02:16:41.680
I did a half lap, yeah, where I sweated to the oldies,

1889
02:16:43.319 --> 02:16:48.239
walked through the Microsoft literally saw Misflosian
man the from Dust. Yeah that was

1890
02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:54.239
the game. Yeah. I saw
Street Footer three third Strike over there by

1891
02:16:54.319 --> 02:16:58.440
day blank and yeah. Then it
walked over to the West Hall and walked

1892
02:16:58.479 --> 02:17:05.520
in literally and saw paid the heist
and then when it and saw a bunch

1893
02:17:05.520 --> 02:17:09.000
of stuff street Fighter Cross Techen.
So, Craig, it's cross. It's

1894
02:17:09.040 --> 02:17:15.120
not Cross ten, it's not X
was a ten game. We're sitting there

1895
02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:18.319
with Craig and he's like going through
twitter feed. It's like, what is

1896
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:24.360
Like Craig worked at Capcom for years
of years and years be it helps twitter

1897
02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:28.840
feed. He's like, what is
this street Fighter ten tech in game people

1898
02:17:28.879 --> 02:17:31.719
are talking about and it's like I
just laded by us off and then it's

1899
02:17:31.719 --> 02:17:35.079
like, motherfucker, it's not ten. Take another guess. He's like,

1900
02:17:35.920 --> 02:17:41.040
but why would care about X Techen? And it's like, that's closer,

1901
02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:45.440
that's still about I may or may
not have had eighty eight beer at that

1902
02:17:45.520 --> 02:17:54.280
point, may or may not have
had eighty eight Christmas when you sell an

1903
02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:56.959
X Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's Swedish man. I'm gonna take

1904
02:17:56.959 --> 02:18:01.520
a pass. Yeah yeah, I'm
just not a tech and guy. Neither

1905
02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:07.399
is anyone else in the world.
It's got Japan. Japan said it people

1906
02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:11.159
anyway, So yeah, business meetings, it sounds very boring E three.

1907
02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:13.479
I always want to go out to
the show floor and and do some laps

1908
02:18:13.520 --> 02:18:16.799
and get really sweaty around people that
elbow me and try to steal the control

1909
02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:20.920
over my hand. Yeah. Unfortunately, I'm in business meetings trying to make

1910
02:18:20.959 --> 02:18:22.920
bitness happen. The most fun is
is not just getting like this, like

1911
02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:28.120
this distribution Neil we made with beef
I Media beef jerky natural style. It's

1912
02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:33.479
not natural, it's natural styles.
It's got eric thorbite in it. It's

1913
02:18:33.600 --> 02:18:35.559
as if it was natural. Yeah
almost so, No, I mean and

1914
02:18:35.680 --> 02:18:41.559
again, I mean it's been busy
in a good way. But better than

1915
02:18:41.600 --> 02:18:43.600
getting sweaty on the chauflour at E
three is is going getting sweating on the

1916
02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.479
chaufourt E three and then going and
playing a demo of a game where you

1917
02:18:46.520 --> 02:18:52.399
have to wear headphones, and I
just I feel bad every time because I

1918
02:18:52.559 --> 02:18:54.319
you know a fair amount of head
sweat happening here just on the sides,

1919
02:18:54.600 --> 02:18:58.840
and I'd love to give it to
this nice slender lady behind me, and

1920
02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:01.159
it's just dripping with you' And I
just look at them and I already know

1921
02:19:01.280 --> 02:19:03.559
like, okay, these have touched
a million other gross heads as well.

1922
02:19:05.440 --> 02:19:07.559
But now I'm gonna put them on, and I'm gonna step it up and

1923
02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:09.520
notch here and put these things on. I'm gonna stand there at this this

1924
02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:13.559
this station and you know, focus
on this game and know that just you

1925
02:19:13.600 --> 02:19:18.719
know, there's sweat pouring down my
head into it absorbing into these these headphones.

1926
02:19:18.719 --> 02:19:22.319
I'm like, just they should just
throw these out effort like not obviously

1927
02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:26.120
after the show on airplanes, surely
they can do it for two days of

1928
02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:28.520
being on the three floor. They
should just they should just toss them out.

1929
02:19:28.600 --> 02:19:31.600
Are clearly they have to toss them
out after the show is over.

1930
02:19:31.639 --> 02:19:33.520
But I'm like, after I'm done, I put them back down, and

1931
02:19:33.600 --> 02:19:35.639
I'm and there's like, especially if
there's someone standing behind me and you're just

1932
02:19:35.760 --> 02:19:39.159
handing it to them with the head
no, no, no, I when

1933
02:19:39.159 --> 02:19:43.159
I put DNA when there is someone
standing behind me, I literally will take

1934
02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:46.159
them off and just set them down, no eye contact, and it's like

1935
02:19:48.799 --> 02:19:54.719
and just walk away, like when
you leave a urinal, right swear it

1936
02:19:54.799 --> 02:20:01.159
and piss all over the floor.
It's you know, you're well, you

1937
02:20:01.239 --> 02:20:05.280
don't go and you know what I'm
saying, right, not really know when

1938
02:20:05.360 --> 02:20:09.440
you get done going to bath,
you don't look around people, look down

1939
02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:11.680
and walk out. Yeah, I'm
not gonna look behind me at the dude

1940
02:20:11.719 --> 02:20:18.440
that's up negar all right, good
luck taking I'm also I'm also not ruining

1941
02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:26.399
urinals every time that I use,
like like alright, anyway, anyway,

1942
02:20:28.520 --> 02:20:33.399
Simon, Simon, Simon, I
haven't seen anything that was good or just

1943
02:20:33.639 --> 02:20:39.200
sciming. Yeah, i haven't seen
anything at all whatsoever because I'm been out

1944
02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:41.479
of rearm you went into a cave
and then came out to know. But

1945
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:45.879
this year's Secene three, I've been
at our booth and I've been I've been

1946
02:20:46.040 --> 02:20:52.399
demoing the game for you know,
each and every person passing through. Any

1947
02:20:52.440 --> 02:20:56.760
team that is wearing full out suit
zoot suits, headed toe, the entire

1948
02:20:56.840 --> 02:21:00.920
Sweetish team, Impress. We're next
to the capcom with so I've seen all

1949
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:05.719
the trailers from the Capcome that's what
I've like the outside of the Nintendo Fortress.

1950
02:21:07.399 --> 02:21:11.799
Yeah, Craft you've seen one of
the Capcom trailers. I like the

1951
02:21:11.879 --> 02:21:16.120
one for Street Fight three the best
because he does music. I just want

1952
02:21:16.120 --> 02:21:18.559
to say, it's it's honor having
Simon Vicklin here in the house because the

1953
02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:20.600
soundtrack too, Byron Commander Rearmed is
just one of my favorite things. Just

1954
02:21:22.000 --> 02:21:26.280
fucking ever age he did the Third
Strike soundtrack for Davila when everyone gets here.

1955
02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:28.159
What he did with the remixed themes
for every character and everything with the

1956
02:21:28.200 --> 02:21:31.760
main theme, it's incredibly did a
great job. It's gonna go himself awesome,

1957
02:21:31.799 --> 02:21:35.959
awesome. Uh, don't forget they
actually directed Bionic Commando Rearmed too,

1958
02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:39.680
absolutely, and you know, also
not saying Bionic Commando re too, but

1959
02:21:39.840 --> 02:21:48.159
beyond the Commando with that one too
as well. Yeah, exactly. So,

1960
02:21:48.440 --> 02:21:52.600
so Simon, tell me about your
damn game. I actually don't know

1961
02:21:52.760 --> 02:21:58.719
a single thing about what you guys
are working on right now. Pitch Final

1962
02:21:58.760 --> 02:22:03.000
Fat to see Square. We just
set down a couple of guys and went

1963
02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:05.680
like, okay, let's make the
games we want to make, and just

1964
02:22:05.879 --> 02:22:11.360
like don't care about anything. Else. So we play a lot of comporative

1965
02:22:11.479 --> 02:22:15.559
games and we like higst movies.
So we made the highest comporative game.

1966
02:22:16.079 --> 02:22:22.879
Yeah, and we spent like eighteen
months in development under the radar as as

1967
02:22:22.959 --> 02:22:26.040
much as we could, Like,
we didn't tell Adam anything, so it

1968
02:22:26.159 --> 02:22:31.879
didn't spread. That's that's a good
that's a good way to keep ye.

1969
02:22:33.239 --> 02:22:35.680
Hey, do they ever told me? It was? Like no, In

1970
02:22:35.840 --> 02:22:39.000
order to increase productivity, we cut
off internet for the whole time off.

1971
02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:43.479
Yeah, we actually did. That's
without internet and then off goes. It's

1972
02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:46.600
increased our prodoritive. We've got fifty
five percent. I'm like, get metrics

1973
02:22:46.639 --> 02:22:50.040
for that. Nobody's googling stupid shit, so that's my metric. I'm like,

1974
02:22:50.559 --> 02:22:54.399
yeah, actually, and that includes
myself. So yeah, I usually

1975
02:22:54.399 --> 02:22:58.719
google stupid ship right now I'm not
so yeah, I'm like twice you were.

1976
02:23:00.159 --> 02:23:05.239
That's well you should do. You
use your mind that you don't need

1977
02:23:05.399 --> 02:23:11.959
Google. Google is like new.
Like you like an EMP grenade that goes

1978
02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:16.440
off every morning at eight am and
then dissipates a six pm. You know,

1979
02:23:16.520 --> 02:23:18.799
there's just a cable in the wall. Just pull it out, simple,

1980
02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:22.719
just pull it out. I should
try that sound sounds like yeah,

1981
02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:26.239
it sounds like common. Yes,
yeah, So who you guys publishing with

1982
02:23:26.719 --> 02:23:31.840
uh, Sony Online. It's not
it's not as much a publishing thing as

1983
02:23:31.879 --> 02:23:33.840
a you know, partnership distribution deals. Okay, okay, because because I

1984
02:23:33.920 --> 02:23:37.399
was gonna ask, you know,
uh, you guys are doing a heist

1985
02:23:37.479 --> 02:23:45.399
game. Sony Online spent I don't
say, five years with the agency another

1986
02:23:45.600 --> 02:23:48.280
kind of you know, not not
a hisht game. But yeah, there's

1987
02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:50.959
a kind of maybe a similar tone
there with with that game and that you

1988
02:23:52.000 --> 02:23:56.000
know an MMO so also completely fucking
unrelated, but you know, that was

1989
02:23:56.040 --> 02:23:58.879
one that just dragged on and on
and on. But if it's not if,

1990
02:24:00.159 --> 02:24:01.639
if it's if it's a different kind
of situation where you guys are just

1991
02:24:01.840 --> 02:24:07.159
you know, have a publishing partnership. Well you know we're gonna release this

1992
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:09.959
year, so it's just yeah,
you guys have done the work. You

1993
02:24:09.000 --> 02:24:13.799
actually have unlike the agency, you
actually have a game. We pretty much

1994
02:24:13.840 --> 02:24:16.079
had a game when we when we
when we showed it to Sony Yeah yeah,

1995
02:24:16.159 --> 02:24:18.360
yeah, okay, we sorry,
we were you know on the debate

1996
02:24:18.479 --> 02:24:22.600
front, everyone with their own cash
and just just made the game we want

1997
02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:26.079
to make what I mean after you
know, after the fantastic news about Squoreen

1998
02:24:26.159 --> 02:24:30.719
Nicks. If I'm a publisher,
I'm thinking, what better partner to work

1999
02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:33.600
with than a group that will not
throw me under the bus at the first

2000
02:24:35.239 --> 02:24:37.719
What can you talk? I'm sure? What are you talking about? The

2001
02:24:37.760 --> 02:24:41.840
bus? What? Yeah? Oh? Can you talk about the article talked

2002
02:24:41.840 --> 02:24:48.079
about? You know, I would
appreciate if, if, if, like

2003
02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:56.680
the media outlets won't use like like
babel fish to translate ship. There was

2004
02:24:56.760 --> 02:25:00.799
a major media outlet so recently.
I don't if you guys read, but

2005
02:25:01.079 --> 02:25:03.840
bone Off didn't interview with often blog
it which is a big, huge like

2006
02:25:05.079 --> 02:25:11.040
US Weekly of Sweden and you can't
pronounce that for ships, but it's like

2007
02:25:11.159 --> 02:25:16.479
fog bus. Yeah yeah, we
just virch but yeah, anyway, whatever.

2008
02:25:16.840 --> 02:25:20.200
But they had used Google Translate translate
the article, and then they whole

2009
02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:24.600
wrote a whole entire article where the
poll quotes were Google translated and said both

2010
02:25:24.639 --> 02:25:28.360
said this, yeah Google translate.
I was like in Swinglish like it was

2011
02:25:28.600 --> 02:25:39.799
translated. It's like translating the Swedish
chef, you know the best parts.

2012
02:25:39.079 --> 02:25:43.000
Yeah. The email address and phone
numbers have not changed as they worked at

2013
02:25:43.040 --> 02:25:46.280
green. I mean, surely you
could actually reach out for thirty seconds to

2014
02:25:46.319 --> 02:25:50.239
get some real quotes, yeah,
or find like a Swedish guy, which

2015
02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:54.000
I mean there's some out there.
I heard there's Swedish. Yeah yeah,

2016
02:25:54.079 --> 02:25:56.840
and they could actually translate for you. But and then a lot of other

2017
02:25:56.879 --> 02:26:00.520
people, then other bad press outlets
started saying that, well, if you

2018
02:26:00.639 --> 02:26:03.399
make three terrible games, you deserve
to go under. Oh yeah, maybe

2019
02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:07.799
that's the reason. Yeah. Yeah, So so set the set the story

2020
02:26:07.879 --> 02:26:11.000
straight here, you yeah, you
were miss misquoted. What's what's the what

2021
02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:16.120
was the actual gist of this this
interview as a you know, we started

2022
02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:18.639
a new company now and we sort
of want to just go from that,

2023
02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:22.040
so you know, I can I
can tell you as much as you know.

2024
02:26:22.239 --> 02:26:26.399
We we we had a contract going
with Square and uh it didn't turn

2025
02:26:26.479 --> 02:26:31.440
out that well and uh, you
know we we uh apparently had to use

2026
02:26:31.520 --> 02:26:35.879
our fax machine a lot, so
and we didn't have a fax machine about

2027
02:26:35.879 --> 02:26:43.040
facing the code. Yeah, so
so yeah, in the future, facts

2028
02:26:43.600 --> 02:26:46.120
and use that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a fact machine. Key to

2029
02:26:46.239 --> 02:26:52.639
game development. Zeros are one zero
about how far in development were you guys?

2030
02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:56.319
I won't say money wise, but
like time wise, how much time

2031
02:26:56.360 --> 02:27:00.799
did you put in the game?
We put about what was that like five

2032
02:27:01.120 --> 02:27:09.680
or nine nine? Yeah, nine
months, as I recall, it was

2033
02:27:09.760 --> 02:27:11.319
nine months. Yeah, but I'm
not sure. Well, you know,

2034
02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:13.799
it was the time of my life
where I spent most of the time in

2035
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:18.719
meetings guys, you know, and
I'm playable yet at that point it was

2036
02:27:20.639 --> 02:27:24.159
it was a very confused situation.
I wouldn't call it first playable. What

2037
02:27:24.280 --> 02:27:28.639
we tried to do is we tried
sandbox the whole game, do it quite

2038
02:27:28.680 --> 02:27:33.000
differently this time, instead of like
having to do internal demos and stumb So

2039
02:27:33.200 --> 02:27:35.840
yeah, yeah, it sort of
it went along fairly fine, but then

2040
02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:39.920
you know, stuff, the stuff
happened. But at the same time,

2041
02:27:39.000 --> 02:27:43.600
you know, the Japanese economy was
really bad, and you know, it

2042
02:27:43.719 --> 02:27:48.840
turned out like it did so well. I would have liked makeing finalizing that

2043
02:27:48.879 --> 02:27:52.559
game, because I think the concept
was fucking awesome. Was there anything anything

2044
02:27:52.680 --> 02:28:00.520
from that game that you brought into
your No, probably not, probably banks

2045
02:28:00.559 --> 02:28:05.719
stealing Chuka bos Chocober writing high Skame. No, no, you're trying to

2046
02:28:05.799 --> 02:28:09.120
steal did you did you like Chris
Charlie have a shot at did you show

2047
02:28:09.120 --> 02:28:13.319
it to Chris, No, I
didn't know what. Why why because Microsoft

2048
02:28:13.360 --> 02:28:18.440
has the rights of choker bos maybe
that's step one. Well, the general

2049
02:28:18.479 --> 02:28:22.000
opinion about Microsoft right now is it
is it's really hard to sign if you're

2050
02:28:22.000 --> 02:28:26.319
not hooked to a publisher, in
my opinion. So that's I guess that's

2051
02:28:26.360 --> 02:28:30.559
one of the reasons why we didn't
go for Microsoft first. Yeah, that's

2052
02:28:30.559 --> 02:28:37.000
about it. But yeah, so
pushback on that stuff, all right,

2053
02:28:37.079 --> 02:28:41.159
we're signing stuff, yeah, yeah, apparently so, yeah, that's cool.

2054
02:28:41.600 --> 02:28:43.239
That's why I asked about the indy
stuff before. Yeah, it's great

2055
02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:48.479
question stuff. But I mean all
the MGS stuff is independent. I mean

2056
02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:52.799
they don't sign stuff that has a
publisher already. No, No, I

2057
02:28:52.879 --> 02:28:58.520
love that. Meetings I have is
apparently ship So yeah, I'm battling for

2058
02:28:58.040 --> 02:29:03.799
Hey, so Charlie Twist and pixels. So Gunstringer is going to be retail.

2059
02:29:03.479 --> 02:29:07.600
Any any like insight you can give
us and how that happened because that

2060
02:29:07.639 --> 02:29:09.399
comes out of your group then right, Yes, it's done by the XBLA

2061
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.319
group, but we decided to make
it a box. That's really cool.

2062
02:29:15.000 --> 02:29:18.879
I mean I think that's like the
first time like an NEXTBLA developer has had

2063
02:29:20.680 --> 02:29:24.159
a game right that actually came out
as a retail Is there any other developers

2064
02:29:24.200 --> 02:29:26.360
have been out there? I mean
it's the first game we've developed. I

2065
02:29:26.399 --> 02:29:28.280
mean, we've done compilations of games
you know, come out, but it's

2066
02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:31.520
the first game we've developed that we
ended up putting in a box. But

2067
02:29:31.680 --> 02:29:35.159
like, I mean, I think
any of our games, like, I

2068
02:29:35.360 --> 02:29:39.319
think it's bull to say like,
oh, it's retail quality or XBLA quality.

2069
02:29:39.399 --> 02:29:43.959
Like all the games we do,
we try and make awesome console games.

2070
02:29:43.479 --> 02:29:48.479
It's mostly just a scale and the
size of the game and gun Stringer.

2071
02:29:48.680 --> 02:29:50.600
As it was coming through, it
was like, you know what,

2072
02:29:50.680 --> 02:29:54.920
this is actually pretty big scales a
pretty big game. It's almost bigger than

2073
02:29:54.000 --> 02:29:58.399
the allowable limit for an XBLA game. You know, there's a size limit,

2074
02:29:58.520 --> 02:30:01.440
and so what's what's the size?
Name it? Right now? It's

2075
02:30:01.479 --> 02:30:03.559
two gigs. I don't know if
it's public, but it's two gigs.

2076
02:30:05.399 --> 02:30:13.879
He's looking off camera, So yeah, it was right. It was bouncing

2077
02:30:13.959 --> 02:30:18.559
up against that limit, and so
we kind of saw an opportunity to try

2078
02:30:18.600 --> 02:30:20.559
it and see what happened, and
so it's pretty sweet. I don't know

2079
02:30:20.559 --> 02:30:24.000
if everybody's got a chance to play
it. But I you know everyone I've

2080
02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:26.360
talked to you that's that's seen it
and played it. It has a lot

2081
02:30:26.399 --> 02:30:28.319
of great things to say. I
have not had the opportunity to touch on

2082
02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:31.559
myself yet, but I I love
I love the twisted pixels. The sensibility

2083
02:30:31.840 --> 02:30:35.239
is always just ridiculous in a really
awesome way. I love that, you

2084
02:30:35.280 --> 02:30:39.719
know we had we had you know, Dan Mike here earlier. And I

2085
02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:43.719
love their use of FMV nonsense is
always fucking fantastic. They tell the story

2086
02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:46.040
how they came up with the main
character. No, no, no,

2087
02:30:46.159 --> 02:30:48.239
I mean I think it's been out
there, but I'll tell you. So

2088
02:30:48.319 --> 02:30:52.760
they we're getting, we're getting positive
nods off screen that you can tell this.

2089
02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:58.840
So they were a meeting with the
business development person for XBLA and they

2090
02:30:58.840 --> 02:31:01.719
were lunch and they were saying,
had his vision for doing like, uh,

2091
02:31:01.719 --> 02:31:05.719
this game like a Western theme game
and it's kind of like a theater

2092
02:31:05.879 --> 02:31:07.159
and marionette and stuff like that.
And she was like, oh, it

2093
02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:11.079
sounds great. What's the main character? And they're like and she's like,

2094
02:31:11.120 --> 02:31:11.639
hold on a second, I had
to go. I had to go to

2095
02:31:11.719 --> 02:31:16.040
the restroom. So she got up
and left, and I guess they didn't

2096
02:31:16.079 --> 02:31:18.280
have a main character. So they're
sitting in a Mexican restaurant, the Matador,

2097
02:31:18.399 --> 02:31:24.319
in in Redmond, and they're looking
around, going like she's gonna come

2098
02:31:24.319 --> 02:31:28.680
back. It's like character. Anybody's
ever worked at a developer has been in

2099
02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:31.479
a pitch like this where you start
to go down the road and the publisher

2100
02:31:31.520 --> 02:31:35.000
asking a question you don't have an
answer, and you're just like, please

2101
02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:39.319
go to the bathroom. Yeah,
let's go to the bathroom. To your

2102
02:31:39.360 --> 02:31:43.520
cell phone ringing, I think you
need to go and and your BlackBerry Smart

2103
02:31:43.559 --> 02:31:46.520
please. One of the one of
the Twisted Pixel guys is looking around the

2104
02:31:46.559 --> 02:31:50.639
Matador and there's a stained glass skeleton
above the bar because it's like a tequila

2105
02:31:50.719 --> 02:31:52.680
bar, like wearing a cowboy hat. And she came back and like it's

2106
02:31:52.719 --> 02:32:01.959
a skeleton and she's like that sounds
awesome. It's a gun swing or swan

2107
02:32:03.399 --> 02:32:07.000
or I mean that's how great games
get made, right, Like, I

2108
02:32:07.040 --> 02:32:11.639
mean, that's how they get made, That's how they get conceived, just

2109
02:32:11.799 --> 02:32:16.159
and just random ass pitch meetings when
you don't have an answer. My imagination

2110
02:32:16.200 --> 02:32:24.200
should up going off of where that
could have ended like it's about it.

2111
02:32:24.479 --> 02:32:30.399
It's a fork. It's just a
very nice looking fork. You're a nervous

2112
02:32:30.440 --> 02:32:35.040
developer trying to give a pitch.
It turns out you're a girl going to

2113
02:32:35.120 --> 02:32:39.000
the bathroom. So they're not having
the launch party there at the Matador.

2114
02:32:39.440 --> 02:32:43.680
Yes, bring it back full circle. I dig it, David Lang,

2115
02:32:45.159 --> 02:32:46.319
Sir, that's going man, it's
going great. How you doing? I

2116
02:32:46.360 --> 02:32:50.440
am excellent. This has been an
awesome E three having all these all these

2117
02:32:50.479 --> 02:32:54.200
people come through the house like this
and getting to talk to dev's and underhanded

2118
02:32:56.040 --> 02:33:00.399
and underhanded shenanigans, at least for
tonight. That's that's what tonight's been about.

2119
02:33:01.799 --> 02:33:07.000
Nights nonsense would be no, No, let's talk about Dave Lang had

2120
02:33:07.159 --> 02:33:09.639
finally has a game announcement. He's
been in business for like seventeen years.

2121
02:33:11.079 --> 02:33:13.479
Thank Christ. I have no idea
why what game would take down? Wait?

2122
02:33:13.559 --> 02:33:16.959
What about deal with me today?
So he's doing all the time I

2123
02:33:18.000 --> 02:33:20.719
want I think he's doing Street Fire
ten. I want to pump the brakes

2124
02:33:20.760 --> 02:33:28.399
here because I love Street Fire ten
right ten cross ten Dash three. I

2125
02:33:28.520 --> 02:33:31.959
love Adams. I love Adams willingness
to throw absolutely everyone under the bus.

2126
02:33:33.719 --> 02:33:39.799
But no one has has tossed any
barbs. Adam's way of that he can't

2127
02:33:41.440 --> 02:33:46.399
best game or just or just the
ship, that he can't talk about that

2128
02:33:46.479 --> 02:33:54.319
everyone knows that he can't talk about
scream on Turkey. That's all we do,

2129
02:33:54.920 --> 02:33:58.840
all right. So Lang, you've
got you've got three third Strike coming,

2130
02:34:00.040 --> 02:34:03.040
Yeah, street Fighter three third Strike
xp LPs N. Yeah, it's

2131
02:34:03.280 --> 02:34:07.280
h announced the ship AUP. It'll
be summer this year. Super excited about

2132
02:34:07.319 --> 02:34:11.239
it. Sounds like yeah, yeah, it really sounds really comporable with this

2133
02:34:11.239 --> 02:34:13.799
stuff al right, Like, hey, it's gonna be Arcade perfect GP code

2134
02:34:15.440 --> 02:34:22.280
like Blake, that's what. That's
what. Mostly the music will be incredible.

2135
02:34:22.319 --> 02:34:26.280
How music? Don't tell me that
there to plug the music in the

2136
02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:30.200
trailer. Huh. I didn't make
the trailer, dude, Yeah, I

2137
02:34:30.280 --> 02:34:33.520
didn't. I have no creative control, Oh, wind Mine, you didn't.

2138
02:34:33.520 --> 02:34:37.319
There isn't an achievement in it for
like win five matches online because you

2139
02:34:37.399 --> 02:34:39.120
know, the only people that canet
dalla, they're like the most fucking hardcore

2140
02:34:39.200 --> 02:34:43.360
Street fireplayers. So we've got your
asks. We don't like those achievements.

2141
02:34:43.399 --> 02:34:46.120
We do have challenges in the game
that are like very dynamic with like over

2142
02:34:46.159 --> 02:34:48.879
one hundred of those kind of things, and please don't play a bunch of

2143
02:34:48.920 --> 02:34:50.799
games. There's some of those fro
online. They are, but it's like

2144
02:34:50.920 --> 02:34:54.559
that stuff is just a those super
super hard ones are very small percentage of

2145
02:34:54.600 --> 02:34:58.920
them. So but yeah, and
you know if you don't get them,

2146
02:34:58.040 --> 02:35:01.799
it's not like you're missing out on
who's your favorite character? Is that the

2147
02:35:01.879 --> 02:35:09.000
guy who's just wearing let's yeah,
only got a charge movie guy right here

2148
02:35:09.079 --> 02:35:15.000
with the characters, his name was
Urine. I wrecked him. Maybe he

2149
02:35:15.079 --> 02:35:20.920
wears cakes? Yeah, the cakes. Yeah, that sounds about right for

2150
02:35:20.920 --> 02:35:24.159
a Street Fighter third Strike character design, because that shit kind of went off

2151
02:35:24.200 --> 02:35:28.440
the rails at a certain point.
Those are very different characters than the world

2152
02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:31.079
I'd like two or even four,
right, well even even like from the

2153
02:35:31.200 --> 02:35:35.079
first Street Fighter three where it's like, okay, we're making a departure from

2154
02:35:35.120 --> 02:35:39.920
you know, the what you expect
from Street Fighter two characters. It's like

2155
02:35:39.000 --> 02:35:43.520
I could play basketball or something.
Yeah, Sean, he's taught. You

2156
02:35:43.600 --> 02:35:48.319
do his taught and he throws a
basketball issue. It's a bit from three.

2157
02:35:48.920 --> 02:35:52.719
So so are you guys messing with
the I mean, so you know,

2158
02:35:52.840 --> 02:35:56.200
Simon providing some some remixed music for
you guys messing with the classics at

2159
02:35:56.239 --> 02:36:00.360
all. I mean Street Fight three
is still the best, like two D

2160
02:36:00.479 --> 02:36:03.559
fighter looking up all time and like
art's just incredible. If we would have

2161
02:36:03.639 --> 02:36:05.879
touched that, it would have taken
just four more years to get that thing

2162
02:36:05.920 --> 02:36:07.920
done. Food up. That's a
lot of frames. Yeah, so we

2163
02:36:07.040 --> 02:36:11.239
did, we did, we did. You know, we did all the

2164
02:36:11.719 --> 02:36:15.520
UI stuff, all the elements there, we got some new UI R it's

2165
02:36:15.680 --> 02:36:18.200
you know, uh, some prefaous
arts contributed to. But like the end

2166
02:36:18.239 --> 02:36:20.920
game stuff, it's just it's there. It's raw. It's perfect as it

2167
02:36:22.040 --> 02:36:24.639
is in my opinion, and like
it would taken forever to mess with an

2168
02:36:24.639 --> 02:36:26.559
old bod marginally better, So why
do it? Like three Fighter ten's amazing,

2169
02:36:26.760 --> 02:36:33.879
beautiful, love it. It's amazing
Free Fighter ten tracker machine also that

2170
02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:37.879
you were a little character. Love
it half blue like good smell and everything

2171
02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:43.479
good good. Ever, you have
a second game kicking around the show as

2172
02:36:43.520 --> 02:36:50.239
well. We were going to and
I got pulled anyway, Dave, what

2173
02:36:50.399 --> 02:36:52.280
is it? Anyway? Just tell
us, you know, I'd love to,

2174
02:36:52.520 --> 02:36:58.559
but do I know what it is? Fighter eleven? Yeah? So

2175
02:36:58.159 --> 02:37:03.479
eleven? They basically What happened was
our publishing parter went to U went to

2176
02:37:03.559 --> 02:37:05.120
the platform holder and they're like,
hey, we're gonna have this on the

2177
02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:07.079
floor. We're gonna do this press
release because you proved like, oh,

2178
02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:09.639
you can't fucking talk about that yet. And it's like, well, what

2179
02:37:09.719 --> 02:37:13.200
do you know? We have it
on the show floor. Pull up from

2180
02:37:13.200 --> 02:37:16.200
the show floor right now. So
it sucks because we're tiny studio. There's

2181
02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:18.280
like twenty two of us right,
there's not a lot of people, and

2182
02:37:18.360 --> 02:37:20.440
getting like one build ready for E
three is almost impossible. It's so freaking

2183
02:37:20.479 --> 02:37:24.120
hard. Yeah, and we got
two things right for you three and then

2184
02:37:24.159 --> 02:37:26.399
not to have one of them shown
just because of something like that was really

2185
02:37:26.959 --> 02:37:30.079
maddening. Let's say, in a
word, are you going under? Oh,

2186
02:37:30.840 --> 02:37:45.360
desperately clean, send money, desperate
phones nine cents. God, we're

2187
02:37:45.399 --> 02:37:50.520
doing your Snoot updates coming, a
Snoot update is coming. We're working on

2188
02:37:50.559 --> 02:37:52.719
Snoot HD. It's gonna be awesome
if you're paying attention. You know we

2189
02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:58.120
did Snoot HD three months ago.
Ryan, No, this stopped getting this

2190
02:37:58.479 --> 02:38:03.719
this journal I stop getting this,
stop getting stop getting the Snood newsletter letters.

2191
02:38:03.799 --> 02:38:09.799
So the Snood letters, Snoot push
updates. It's so hot in here.

2192
02:38:13.159 --> 02:38:18.559
You're sweating three thousand times, which
is first guys. I'm like trying

2193
02:38:18.639 --> 02:38:22.159
not to die. I've been drinking
all this water. I'm pretty hydrated.

2194
02:38:24.879 --> 02:38:28.000
Just tell me when it's correct.
Turn. Where's my wife? Your wife

2195
02:38:28.079 --> 02:38:33.360
left? Your wife as fish,
she's making your insurance? Is still boy?

2196
02:38:33.680 --> 02:38:39.360
My wife? That's what I'm looking
for. I need some of you

2197
02:38:39.600 --> 02:38:41.920
might remember this. You wait,
Adam, I'm holding it up for you.

2198
02:38:43.360 --> 02:38:45.399
Nobody can see it. You got
to hold it up to the camera.

2199
02:38:45.520 --> 02:38:48.600
Dude, This, of course,
is this play at all. Can

2200
02:38:48.639 --> 02:38:52.159
you see this? This is the
reward down go down down down down down

2201
02:38:52.159 --> 02:38:58.920
down down down down good up up
up good after Ryan had lost the bet

2202
02:38:58.040 --> 02:39:03.959
last year. Yeah, this this
is actually the fruits of the the Grand

2203
02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:11.079
Turismo wager that was that was done
in this very house last year where where

2204
02:39:11.120 --> 02:39:16.040
they last E three They had announced
the date for for Grand Charisma five and

2205
02:39:16.639 --> 02:39:24.719
who whoa I thought you weren't so
so he had so down down down Yeah,

2206
02:39:24.760 --> 02:39:28.000
way to executive produced at John Drake. Yeah that's exactly right. Yeah,

2207
02:39:28.040 --> 02:39:37.319
give hi a couple of down down
it drop it. Don't don't put

2208
02:39:37.360 --> 02:39:45.319
any black and anyway, So there
was a wager cold what the fuck there

2209
02:39:45.399 --> 02:39:48.159
was? There was a wager that
I knew that GT five would not still

2210
02:39:48.200 --> 02:39:52.559
make its it's released dating you you
got, you got raped on that beat,

2211
02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:58.239
you got horrifically destroyed. I should
have won that goddamn bet they announced

2212
02:39:58.719 --> 02:40:01.680
at the time, I like your
chances, they like at E three they

2213
02:40:01.719 --> 02:40:05.159
had announced the date. It was
five months, four months from that point,

2214
02:40:05.639 --> 02:40:07.920
and I'm like, there's yeah,
They're made a huge bet, Ryan.

2215
02:40:07.959 --> 02:40:11.319
And then when it had happened and
in the date past, you were

2216
02:40:11.360 --> 02:40:16.920
like dark, Like Johnny was like
on a sweter, like did I win?

2217
02:40:16.040 --> 02:40:20.680
Do I get anything? What happens? What's because I had to go.

2218
02:40:20.120 --> 02:40:24.840
I had to fucking go. And
then like contact the artists that because

2219
02:40:24.040 --> 02:40:28.040
so so the deal was that was
that if I hadn't make t shirts on

2220
02:40:28.120 --> 02:40:31.760
a whim, but haven't forbid making
him a towel, Come on, we

2221
02:40:31.399 --> 02:40:33.399
make it, we make it look
like, we make it look like,

2222
02:40:33.879 --> 02:40:37.040
we make it look like we do
it on a whim. It actually takes

2223
02:40:37.079 --> 02:40:39.440
a really long fucking time. But
to admit that you were wrong, but

2224
02:40:41.399 --> 02:40:45.079
it took a while to get the
art together and then to also decide on

2225
02:40:45.159 --> 02:40:48.479
the delivery mechanism. So I had
the art actually several months before I got

2226
02:40:48.520 --> 02:40:52.159
this to Johnny, because I was
like, Okay, I've got the pieces,

2227
02:40:52.520 --> 02:40:54.680
Like do I just send him a
fucking gift? Like that's not very

2228
02:40:56.159 --> 02:40:58.840
that's not a very exciting way to
kind of finish off this bet. And

2229
02:40:58.959 --> 02:41:03.680
so is I actually think Jeff had
mentioned, you know, like Walmart,

2230
02:41:03.799 --> 02:41:09.479
you can print giant fucking poster sized
versions of images, like like like super

2231
02:41:09.559 --> 02:41:11.920
cheap, like super cheap, you
can you can you know, print like

2232
02:41:11.040 --> 02:41:15.280
giant poster sized version of these images. So this is actually the nice one.

2233
02:41:15.360 --> 02:41:20.239
The other one is of Johnny shirtless
with my initials shaved into his chest

2234
02:41:20.000 --> 02:41:22.280
because that was the other That was
the other half. That's on a plate.

2235
02:41:22.639 --> 02:41:28.079
I'm Johnny's house. Remember it's actually
on my desk at work. Oh

2236
02:41:28.200 --> 02:41:30.639
nice. So people come in they're
like, what's that And there's like this

2237
02:41:30.840 --> 02:41:35.000
agro It looks like King of Sas
you know. It's it's if you go

2238
02:41:35.159 --> 02:41:39.360
to the John Vignaki page on Giant
Bomb, you can which is full of

2239
02:41:39.440 --> 02:41:43.760
the most ridiculous trivia fects. Someone
wrote like a bathe in vodka and eat

2240
02:41:43.879 --> 02:41:48.440
babies and like, I don't know, it's fucking Brad that approves all that,

2241
02:41:48.680 --> 02:41:52.559
right, No, no, no, that's that's no imember. I

2242
02:41:52.639 --> 02:41:58.040
remember saying I've seen some crazy ship
come through on your trip, and that

2243
02:41:58.079 --> 02:42:00.920
says he just looks at well he
also goes in elites all the crazy shit

2244
02:42:00.959 --> 02:42:03.479
that gets added to his page.
So, uh, all of our pages

2245
02:42:03.520 --> 02:42:09.079
have complete nonsense on them. Also, all of your pages have complete nonsense

2246
02:42:09.319 --> 02:42:11.799
on them because because you all,
because you all add it to each other's

2247
02:42:11.840 --> 02:42:18.680
fucking pages. We do. We
killed Builder last year after dicey chess models.

2248
02:42:18.879 --> 02:42:22.280
He discovered it. He's like,
he's skyping me. Yeah, he's

2249
02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:26.559
jelevisions in the same buildings. We
are the right down MIC builders them,

2250
02:42:26.639 --> 02:42:31.159
And so did you do little get
this year? You know he sciped me.

2251
02:42:31.239 --> 02:42:35.399
He's like, so, which one
of you assholes put out a chess

2252
02:42:35.440 --> 02:42:39.479
model on Joan Pop Like that one
might have been me. It's like it's

2253
02:42:39.520 --> 02:42:43.000
like, oh, I finally discovered
it, and then of course he edited

2254
02:42:43.040 --> 02:42:45.159
it out, so it's toy Vanilla. So naturally, what am I gonna

2255
02:42:45.159 --> 02:42:46.719
do? Want to get back my
mod? Tell tonight more new lies,

2256
02:42:48.079 --> 02:42:50.360
go back and improve the mic Builder
page some more. So I'm thinking though,

2257
02:42:50.559 --> 02:42:56.000
Ryan, yes, Johnny, and
maybe we should continue the tradition,

2258
02:42:56.200 --> 02:42:58.319
and do you want to You're you're
gonna give me another chance of shaving your

2259
02:42:58.399 --> 02:43:03.000
chest? Yeah, well, you
know, I feel like I missed the

2260
02:43:03.079 --> 02:43:07.959
last one. God damn it.
I still like Adrian didn't near my back

2261
02:43:07.000 --> 02:43:11.840
so I wouldn't be embarrassed on my
honeymoon. So it was sick sometimes I

2262
02:43:11.959 --> 02:43:15.000
was. I was. I was
there when the bottles and bottles and bottles

2263
02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:18.520
and bottles of Nair appeared at the
house. Yeah, She's like, oh,

2264
02:43:18.600 --> 02:43:22.680
it's so funny that Ryan would be
here for this. And she's like

2265
02:43:22.879 --> 02:43:28.120
dumped bags like like like yeah,
great, big grocery bag on the kitchen

2266
02:43:28.239 --> 02:43:33.040
table, just like uh like like
eight bottles of you know, cocoa butter

2267
02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:35.920
Nair just right there, and I'm
like, what the fuck is this?

2268
02:43:37.280 --> 02:43:39.280
So so at first I was like, Okay, this is this is Adrian

2269
02:43:39.399 --> 02:43:43.639
fucking with Johnny. And then if
found no, Johnny NAAR's his back on

2270
02:43:43.719 --> 02:43:48.879
a semi regular basis. Like I
thought it was like, Oh, she's

2271
02:43:48.879 --> 02:43:50.760
gonna make him do this thing this
one time, and and you know what,

2272
02:43:52.000 --> 02:43:54.559
I thought it was gonna be like
a shock to Johnny of like,

2273
02:43:54.920 --> 02:43:56.280
oh, I'm not gonna do that, but you were just like yeah,

2274
02:43:56.319 --> 02:44:05.479
okay, I guess one were some
up. I guess anyway, So the

2275
02:44:05.600 --> 02:44:07.360
bets, let's see what do you
haven't? Did you have anything in mine?

2276
02:44:07.520 --> 02:44:11.760
You have one in mind, but
I don't. Uh So the bet

2277
02:44:11.840 --> 02:44:18.040
would be whether or not Star Wars
the Old Republic launches this year. Oh,

2278
02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:22.440
I think we both know the answers. No, I was open.

2279
02:44:22.600 --> 02:44:24.040
We're gonna be like, you know
what, I'll go for it. Let's

2280
02:44:24.040 --> 02:44:30.719
just some you Okay, but that's
that's not coming out until like Holiday twelve.

2281
02:44:31.520 --> 02:44:35.040
That's that's too long, that's too
we go. What gets rated higher?

2282
02:44:35.719 --> 02:44:39.120
Modern Warfare three or Battlefield three?
Do you guys have different opinions on

2283
02:44:39.159 --> 02:44:43.879
it? Yeah, so I'm curious. I'm actually really curious about because Battlefield

2284
02:44:43.920 --> 02:44:48.479
three has like a really strange amount
of positive buzz for it, and I'm

2285
02:44:48.600 --> 02:44:52.600
like really confused because there's so many
people in there like'll they'll do totally the

2286
02:44:52.879 --> 02:44:58.120
rock mar Warfare three and I'm like
no, I well, I'm just I'm

2287
02:44:58.200 --> 02:45:01.000
confused because it's like Battlefield's been around
and they've made absolutely great games. But

2288
02:45:01.079 --> 02:45:05.360
like modern warfare has been you know, the the you know, defact people

2289
02:45:05.360 --> 02:45:09.680
want to see modern warfare get taken
down, like it's it's become too successful

2290
02:45:09.680 --> 02:45:15.120
and it's become associated with uh you
know, there's just the bro mentality that

2291
02:45:15.280 --> 02:45:18.200
it has become associated with modern warfare. You know, just the the enthusiast

2292
02:45:18.239 --> 02:45:22.120
crowd fucking hates that shit, all
right, So what side would you pick

2293
02:45:22.200 --> 02:45:28.360
then? I mean, I played
Battlefield three multiplayer yesterday and it's fucking sharp

2294
02:45:28.399 --> 02:45:30.959
as hell, Like I really enjoyed
what I saw, and you know,

2295
02:45:31.000 --> 02:45:33.159
it's it's still that game is still
definitely Battlefield, like, make no mistake

2296
02:45:33.200 --> 02:45:37.520
about it, like everything that previous
games have been. Like we played a

2297
02:45:37.600 --> 02:45:41.280
rushed mode map which was you know, a mode from from Bad Company.

2298
02:45:41.840 --> 02:45:45.200
Uh, and you know they're they're
all the classes. They've tweaked the classes

2299
02:45:45.239 --> 02:45:48.600
some, but you know it's class
based. There are vehicles. The map

2300
02:45:48.639 --> 02:45:52.319
they showed had like just one that
could downplaying the vehicles for this stuff,

2301
02:45:52.319 --> 02:45:54.200
because you know that shit's going to
get really complicated at some point when you

2302
02:45:54.280 --> 02:45:58.120
get into the vehicle stuff. But
it it handles nicely, it looks good,

2303
02:45:58.200 --> 02:46:01.360
it sounds great. Uh Like it
has a lot of stuff going for

2304
02:46:01.520 --> 02:46:05.239
it. But I mean, Mono
Warfare is gonna crush it as far as

2305
02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:09.159
sales go. Uh, let's just
do it. Let's just do a plus

2306
02:46:09.280 --> 02:46:18.120
minus for painted backgrounds in Halo four
skyboxes plus. I don't you know what.

2307
02:46:18.200 --> 02:46:20.959
I don't want to I don't want
to force it. I don't want

2308
02:46:20.000 --> 02:46:22.840
to make it, make it up
just for the sake of it. We

2309
02:46:22.920 --> 02:46:26.159
will when the time is right,
Johnny. We will find the next wager.

2310
02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:28.360
But it was a good one,
though I would I would have picked

2311
02:46:28.399 --> 02:46:31.920
Modern Warfare three. Uh, just
for for money. You won't play money,

2312
02:46:31.959 --> 02:46:33.120
No, no, no, no
no, I mean as far as

2313
02:46:33.200 --> 02:46:43.079
like, as far as ratings for
the insurance bill, I don't. I

2314
02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:50.200
don't make Disney money. I can't. I can't anymore, none of tonight.

2315
02:46:52.840 --> 02:46:54.840
No, don't take If you're not
comfortable, we can move on to

2316
02:46:54.879 --> 02:46:58.159
something else. Yeah, let's talk
about three DS games. Finally, something

2317
02:46:58.239 --> 02:47:00.760
to do with this thing at all. Okay, we got through everyone.

2318
02:47:00.799 --> 02:47:03.360
We're about to get a craig and
his craig send me a text message and

2319
02:47:03.520 --> 02:47:07.159
not to talk about anything he's doing. Did you get correct, Craig.

2320
02:47:07.280 --> 02:47:11.319
Nothing I'm doing I'm being myster What
did you think of three being very mysterious?

2321
02:47:13.559 --> 02:47:15.719
I actually think people are just counting
the wee You a little bit.

2322
02:47:15.840 --> 02:47:18.920
I'm not just saying that because it
pays our bills right now. My wife

2323
02:47:18.959 --> 02:47:28.760
who we're sitting in ten sostra today
star earlier today it was that Starfie and

2324
02:47:28.760 --> 02:47:37.120
telling you ance that I literally day
sitting the upload button for YouTube videos.

2325
02:47:37.280 --> 02:47:41.440
So it's amazing. Uh. We
all the lot of us from from John

2326
02:47:41.479 --> 02:47:45.920
Bomb went and played with the Wei
You today. I got to have hands

2327
02:47:45.959 --> 02:47:48.319
on time with all the demos.
Patrick and Jeff played with it the first

2328
02:47:48.399 --> 02:47:54.159
day, right after the programs We're
doing your job and and and and it

2329
02:47:54.479 --> 02:47:56.719
looks really good, like I think
that stuff. And I've actually heard a

2330
02:47:56.760 --> 02:48:00.840
lot of really like everyone that has
actually touched it. So I mean that's

2331
02:48:00.879 --> 02:48:03.079
the difference is I think if you're
hearing like negative stuff, it's from people

2332
02:48:03.120 --> 02:48:05.840
who don't know what they're talking about
because they haven't actually played. They say

2333
02:48:05.879 --> 02:48:09.399
if it's gonna be able to support
it to cool controllers or just one so

2334
02:48:09.520 --> 02:48:15.959
they they they're they haven't I don't
know, so they're not committing like so

2335
02:48:16.159 --> 02:48:20.200
so Ubisoft had an event tonight where
they were talking about like their their we

2336
02:48:20.399 --> 02:48:24.680
use stuff, and they made it
sound like that Platforms is still extremely fluid

2337
02:48:24.799 --> 02:48:26.959
as far as what is actually in
that box, what it will actually be

2338
02:48:28.000 --> 02:48:31.760
able to do, you know,
graphically, like technically, like it's it

2339
02:48:31.159 --> 02:48:35.920
makes sense because during that press conference
they did not talk about that fucking box

2340
02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:37.840
at all. They barely showed it. You know, if you're gonna launch

2341
02:48:37.879 --> 02:48:41.319
a new console and you're gonna,
you know, debut it, you're gonna

2342
02:48:41.319 --> 02:48:43.680
have a montage and your press conference
where you're spinning that fucking thing around and

2343
02:48:43.680 --> 02:48:46.440
you're showing all the sides. But
like, you know, it's Nintendo is

2344
02:48:46.440 --> 02:48:50.639
not. They never like harp on
the technical end of stuff, so like

2345
02:48:50.760 --> 02:48:54.239
that's not their style, but they
still they never harp on the technical side.

2346
02:48:54.360 --> 02:48:58.559
But but they still they still will
show you the thing. But they

2347
02:48:58.639 --> 02:49:03.120
were concentrating entirely on the controller because
that's the thing that seems to be finalized

2348
02:49:03.120 --> 02:49:07.680
at this point. I actually is
it? Is it nice? Yeah?

2349
02:49:07.840 --> 02:49:11.040
It feels really good in your hands. It's it's it's light. Uh,

2350
02:49:11.239 --> 02:49:15.200
it's it feels how's this it's this
screen like iPad quality? What is it

2351
02:49:15.319 --> 02:49:20.280
like? No, it looks multitch. It's it's it's not it's it's not

2352
02:49:20.559 --> 02:49:24.559
their deep research. We're on a
podcast. Let's find on more in though,

2353
02:49:24.079 --> 02:49:35.360
maybe you should sign them for Xbox
You figuring out guys a plumber jumping

2354
02:49:35.399 --> 02:49:39.559
over pipes. This is bullshit.
I don't know if this is going to

2355
02:49:39.639 --> 02:49:48.680
resonate with this stress excuse. I've
only seen the trailer for for the We

2356
02:49:48.879 --> 02:49:52.239
You, but to me it looked
like a piece of Fisher Price. But

2357
02:49:52.399 --> 02:49:56.440
isn't it doesn't kind of all Nintendo
heart Room. Yeah, I mean it's

2358
02:49:56.520 --> 02:50:00.719
kind of their Their style is it's
it's really clunky, and there's a there's

2359
02:50:00.760 --> 02:50:03.719
a toy quality to kind of all
their stuff. But like it. It

2360
02:50:03.879 --> 02:50:05.200
feels good in your hands. You
can hold it with one hand, and

2361
02:50:05.319 --> 02:50:07.920
because you know, there's a there's
a stylists in there, there's stuff where

2362
02:50:09.000 --> 02:50:11.360
you're you're drawing on it, and
when you're holding it with one hand and

2363
02:50:11.440 --> 02:50:15.040
using the stylist, like, it's
not so heavy that it's uncomfortable. It's

2364
02:50:15.079 --> 02:50:18.879
not even sivable that you could hold
that one handed and be using the touchscreen

2365
02:50:18.079 --> 02:50:24.000
and for extended periods of time.
We was like, we're gonna go super

2366
02:50:24.120 --> 02:50:26.520
minimalistic. We're like, we want
to take it as far away from the

2367
02:50:26.559 --> 02:50:30.959
controller as possible, And now they're
like, we want more controller, bigger

2368
02:50:31.040 --> 02:50:33.159
in your hand hands. Well,
I mean I feel like that just means

2369
02:50:33.280 --> 02:50:37.479
they learned that, you know,
they can't separate themselves from the rest of

2370
02:50:37.520 --> 02:50:41.840
the market that much when dealing with
if they want to have third party support,

2371
02:50:41.959 --> 02:50:46.239
they can't require the third parties to
make everything from scratch. Every single

2372
02:50:46.280 --> 02:50:48.360
time I have I have a different
take. I think that they're trying to

2373
02:50:48.440 --> 02:50:54.280
look for They realize they can't fight
on a technical standpoint, but they can

2374
02:50:54.520 --> 02:50:56.920
they can fight on the way that
you interact with something. Sure, So

2375
02:50:56.959 --> 02:50:58.799
if you look at like we you
right, it seems like they're trying to

2376
02:50:58.840 --> 02:51:01.879
hit like the collaboration angle, right, how do you get a family to

2377
02:51:01.920 --> 02:51:05.319
play a game together? And so
to me, they're just looking for different

2378
02:51:05.360 --> 02:51:11.959
near actions and now they're looking for
other ways for people to play play games

2379
02:51:11.000 --> 02:51:13.239
with one another, right eight way. I kind of see it, and

2380
02:51:13.239 --> 02:51:16.479
I think it's pretty interesting. I
think it's awesome. I am so excited

2381
02:51:16.559 --> 02:51:18.799
about it. Yeah, you're tweeting
all about it. Yeah, I am

2382
02:51:18.920 --> 02:51:24.239
so excited about And when they showed
that like they did that montage of although

2383
02:51:24.399 --> 02:51:28.680
Reggie admitted it was like three sixteenps
three footage, but of like some more

2384
02:51:28.680 --> 02:51:31.120
of the core games coming to we. That made me so excited because it's

2385
02:51:31.120 --> 02:51:35.559
like I grew up as a Nintendo, you know, fanboy. That's that's

2386
02:51:35.799 --> 02:51:39.040
was the console that I played.
And I'm now very much a Microsoft and

2387
02:51:39.239 --> 02:51:45.799
I'm I'm excited though, to go
back to Nintendo and and play those games

2388
02:51:45.840 --> 02:51:48.159
and fall in love with all those
things all over again. What kind of

2389
02:51:48.399 --> 02:51:52.959
the one thing that that blew my
mind when I actually uh picked up the

2390
02:51:52.040 --> 02:51:56.120
trolles. So you see, you
all you saw the stuff they were showing

2391
02:51:56.200 --> 02:51:58.840
to the press conference there. Okay, little side note right in the corners

2392
02:51:58.879 --> 02:52:05.440
we have all simon making fun of
these consoles. When you guys are working

2393
02:52:05.559 --> 02:52:18.520
for Sony Online Entertainment, people not
play your game whatsoever. But so you

2394
02:52:18.520 --> 02:52:20.680
guys, you guys saw during the
press conference there was the shield pose thing

2395
02:52:20.760 --> 02:52:24.799
where it was the the like hold
it up and it was kind of this

2396
02:52:24.879 --> 02:52:28.000
this rhythmic thing. The thing that
that blew my mind when I actually picked

2397
02:52:28.079 --> 02:52:31.440
up the controller for that that demo, so like when you hold it up

2398
02:52:31.639 --> 02:52:37.159
like the system fucking knows and it
changed it actually, like on the on

2399
02:52:37.319 --> 02:52:41.040
the large screen, it zooms out
and then puts the focus on the screen

2400
02:52:41.120 --> 02:52:43.959
on the controller. But what was
crazy was like, Okay, now you're

2401
02:52:43.959 --> 02:52:46.479
gonna you know, look up and
you're gonna see Okay, there's the moon

2402
02:52:46.600 --> 02:52:48.799
up in the sky, and you
know some some arrow is gonna come from

2403
02:52:48.799 --> 02:52:52.639
there. You look down, there's
straight ahead, there's there's a ship there.

2404
02:52:52.799 --> 02:52:54.520
You turn kind of to the right. Okay, here's another ship.

2405
02:52:54.559 --> 02:52:56.879
You turn kind to the left,
there's another ship there. But if you

2406
02:52:56.000 --> 02:53:00.799
keep turning, you can actually turn
completely fucking three six six, Like there's

2407
02:53:00.799 --> 02:53:03.159
an entire world that they have.
I mean it's you know, built around

2408
02:53:03.200 --> 02:53:07.360
flat too deep fucking textures. It's
not like that's it's a crazy technical thing

2409
02:53:07.399 --> 02:53:11.280
that they built. But the notion
that like when you're when you're moving around

2410
02:53:11.280 --> 02:53:13.280
like this, like no, there's
there's this whole kind of virtual space all

2411
02:53:13.319 --> 02:53:16.520
around you that you know they're they're
so I guess they're all they have to

2412
02:53:16.559 --> 02:53:22.559
sell now is a spinning couch?
Well, I mean it is wich pripher

2413
02:53:22.680 --> 02:53:28.239
comes damn it. I love the
Swedes. Well you know that's that's wheel.

2414
02:53:28.399 --> 02:53:37.760
Yeah, guys, Nintendo definitely be
gone on perphers. Yeah yeah,

2415
02:53:37.799 --> 02:53:41.959
So they can make a big build
a big Fisher Prize couch that spin around

2416
02:53:43.000 --> 02:53:46.319
me, Big Fisher Price, My
ten's gonna be so amazing for the record,

2417
02:53:46.680 --> 02:53:52.520
for the record Nintendos the spinning roundhouse
kick amazing. But I mean,

2418
02:53:52.559 --> 02:53:56.079
if I don't know, what would
you expect from a new Nintendo console.

2419
02:53:56.079 --> 02:54:00.760
They're they're not just gonna go bleeding
edge fucking tech on everything and say like

2420
02:54:00.840 --> 02:54:03.079
here's here's a dual shock, like
that's not Nintendo's style. And then there

2421
02:54:03.079 --> 02:54:07.319
they're gonna they're gonna go and throw
some crazy shit out there. And you

2422
02:54:07.360 --> 02:54:11.680
know, they're they're not showing games
today. They're showing uh tech demos.

2423
02:54:11.680 --> 02:54:13.719
They're showing like proof concept, like
here's an idea, here's a crazy thing

2424
02:54:13.799 --> 02:54:16.600
that you could do with this.
And I don't know, like maybe someone

2425
02:54:16.760 --> 02:54:20.520
you know, like that's that's as
far as they have have you know,

2426
02:54:20.639 --> 02:54:24.360
gotten at least, you know,
for for showing externally with that system.

2427
02:54:24.440 --> 02:54:28.680
So it's you know, to to
to say it's gonna be genius or a

2428
02:54:28.719 --> 02:54:33.159
complete piece of shit. At this
point, it's it's far far here everything

2429
02:54:33.879 --> 02:54:35.079
every time, and everything comes out. We're like, this is the most

2430
02:54:35.200 --> 02:54:39.399
terrible Wait a minute, it's sold
ten million, that's what. That's what

2431
02:54:39.600 --> 02:54:43.920
everyone said about Connect. Everyone said
that about Connect. And I was like,

2432
02:54:45.639 --> 02:54:48.520
I've I've I've stopped, you know, pre guessing after the DS because

2433
02:54:48.520 --> 02:54:52.079
when I saw that, I'm like, it's gonna be what two screens out

2434
02:54:52.079 --> 02:54:58.719
of your fucking minds. And then
and because you're un interacting path that they

2435
02:54:58.760 --> 02:55:01.559
sit in their bathroom with, that's
every fucking one. That's I mean,

2436
02:55:01.639 --> 02:55:03.040
that's you know, at the time, it was the PSP DS thing,

2437
02:55:03.079 --> 02:55:05.920
and everyone's like, you know,
all in on PSP clearly, look at

2438
02:55:05.959 --> 02:55:09.399
the screen, look at the tech
like it's got the PlayStation name movies that

2439
02:55:09.479 --> 02:55:11.840
takes three hours top alow, it's
it's it's you know, we didn't know

2440
02:55:11.920 --> 02:55:16.159
that beforehand, but you look at
it and you're like, yeah, PSP

2441
02:55:16.360 --> 02:55:18.440
clearly. And then they both hit
the market and you're like, oh,

2442
02:55:18.559 --> 02:55:22.159
then DS runs away with it,
and you know, PSP kind of languishes.

2443
02:55:22.239 --> 02:55:24.719
So after that moment, I'm like, Okay, I clearly can't.

2444
02:55:24.000 --> 02:55:26.360
I do not understand the market place. I can't. Yeah, everything will

2445
02:55:26.399 --> 02:55:31.360
do awesome. Amazingly and no one
and no no more importantly, charlote,

2446
02:55:31.360 --> 02:55:35.479
probably he can probably being it?
Will it were Xbox, Xbox being Nintendo

2447
02:55:35.600 --> 02:55:41.120
DS? Will this work? Chris? I really enjoyed the Microsoft press conference

2448
02:55:43.000 --> 02:55:48.719
too. I did too. I
did too. I think it's awesome that,

2449
02:55:48.760 --> 02:55:52.600
you know, Being needs to be
integrated into NXC in order to find

2450
02:55:52.680 --> 02:55:56.479
DLC, right, and all the
other stuff that's in there, saying to

2451
02:55:56.559 --> 02:56:03.280
the NXC, to the DLC,
NC the DLC. Now, I thought

2452
02:56:03.319 --> 02:56:05.520
I was hold on, hold on, I want to I want to compare

2453
02:56:05.680 --> 02:56:15.600
Swedish and Canadian beating, which rich
is truly the deadliest formation. Oh yeah,

2454
02:56:15.799 --> 02:56:18.040
you're building together here, absolutely,
keep going then, I don't mean

2455
02:56:18.079 --> 02:56:28.079
to interrupt. All right, Johnny
freestyle the n XC. Understand it's me

2456
02:56:28.680 --> 02:56:33.319
Johnny V. Can't find DLC.
Need a search engine to optimize to find

2457
02:56:33.360 --> 02:56:39.639
it for me? Real quick?
Let me think about this Microsoft press conference

2458
02:56:39.719 --> 02:56:43.079
was to ship. Everyone was saying, Sony's with better. I think they're

2459
02:56:43.079 --> 02:56:56.000
crazy. I'm hot, I'm wearing
a sweaters all right, Brown Couch drop

2460
02:56:56.079 --> 02:57:11.760
a beat better? Righterentiles brod couch
coach, this is about pas bro coach.

2461
02:57:11.959 --> 02:57:16.280
How many minutes comes with that.
Yeah, it's like it sounds like

2462
02:57:16.920 --> 02:57:18.200
the names, so it's actually funny. One. Well, I mean,

2463
02:57:18.520 --> 02:57:22.440
let's let's just let's clear the table. We talked about this repeally previous nights

2464
02:57:22.479 --> 02:57:26.040
like fuck names, Like names don't
matter anymore, Like we are in a

2465
02:57:26.120 --> 02:57:28.239
post names world as far as products
go, Like it's yeah, we you

2466
02:57:28.479 --> 02:57:35.600
a name, name, a pretty
awful name. What's the name of the

2467
02:57:35.719 --> 02:57:45.239
next Nintendo console going to be?
Like them they got I know you you

2468
02:57:46.079 --> 02:57:50.959
over there? Or because three nights
Ago was a Nintendo by the way,

2469
02:57:50.040 --> 02:57:52.920
in this house, yeah, three
nights Ago was Nintendo's the new name.

2470
02:57:54.000 --> 02:57:56.879
Well that was that was the rumor
kicking around. It was a game Game

2471
02:57:56.920 --> 02:58:01.159
Informer and which press Guy's actual believe
that. I mean, we we millions

2472
02:58:01.239 --> 02:58:05.440
making a wee brand and they're gonna
we're just gonna call it attend. We

2473
02:58:05.520 --> 02:58:13.120
had hoped. We had hoped,
because that's such a crazy fucking move to

2474
02:58:13.319 --> 02:58:15.479
to just say, all right,
it's just called the name of the company,

2475
02:58:16.879 --> 02:58:18.799
oh yeah whatever, which everyone calls
it anyway. Well, I mean

2476
02:58:18.879 --> 02:58:22.559
you would think, like an album
from any group, like, wouldn't it

2477
02:58:22.600 --> 02:58:24.639
be like, isn't it wouldn't it
be cool? If they just go back

2478
02:58:24.680 --> 02:58:26.559
to when you were a kid,
you called you're you're not playing video games,

2479
02:58:26.559 --> 02:58:30.840
You're playing fucking Nintendo, and just
like, let's let's tap back into

2480
02:58:30.879 --> 02:58:33.399
that and it's like, let's go
play some fucking Nintendo. Let's play some

2481
02:58:33.479 --> 02:58:37.000
street butter toy story called Ralph.
I mean, you're not going to do

2482
02:58:37.120 --> 02:58:41.000
that anymore, right, I mean
the sticking, sticking, sticking with the

2483
02:58:41.159 --> 02:58:45.360
name I got after the fact,
because they are keeping a lot of that

2484
02:58:45.440 --> 02:58:48.600
same functionality. I'm like, okay, marketing sense, Yeah, that's still

2485
02:58:48.639 --> 02:58:52.719
make that still carries. But also
there's there's elements of the wee still in

2486
02:58:52.799 --> 02:58:56.639
that system. They're supporting that stuff. So it's like, Okay, this

2487
02:58:56.840 --> 02:58:58.959
is this is an extension, this
is kind of you know, the next

2488
02:58:58.000 --> 02:59:01.120
step for that, So keep the
name. I get it, but I

2489
02:59:01.399 --> 02:59:05.200
don't know. I don't I don't
care about I don't care about how bad

2490
02:59:05.239 --> 02:59:07.200
the names are because because I don't, I don't think either are particularly good.

2491
02:59:07.440 --> 02:59:11.319
But you know what a week for
now, we'll all be saying Vita

2492
02:59:11.399 --> 02:59:13.239
and we will forget about it.
Well, we all said connect after saying

2493
02:59:13.280 --> 02:59:16.440
you know, Natal for a fucking
year, So I like Natal better.

2494
02:59:16.600 --> 02:59:20.760
But next I didn't think it was
that bad. They pay an agency a

2495
02:59:20.840 --> 02:59:22.280
ton of money to come up with
those names. I mean, that's the

2496
02:59:22.319 --> 02:59:28.840
thing, because we actually everyone there's
a project that that I'm working on.

2497
02:59:28.879 --> 02:59:31.559
They're like, we're going to get
the same company named WE and Connect to

2498
02:59:31.639 --> 02:59:35.040
come up with the name for the
new game we're working on. I'm like,

2499
02:59:35.360 --> 02:59:39.360
great, what's this thing? My
favorite my favorite story about this,

2500
02:59:39.479 --> 02:59:46.280
about Dizzy, my favorite story,
my favorite story about this. I was

2501
02:59:46.319 --> 02:59:50.239
talking to one of the guys that
Vicarious Visions before Marvel Versus Capcom two came

2502
02:59:50.280 --> 02:59:52.639
out, And when they first announced
that game, it was called Marl Versus

2503
02:59:52.680 --> 02:59:56.559
Capcom two Fusion, which had to
do with with like the gameplay systems they

2504
02:59:56.600 --> 03:00:00.680
had in place, whatever, and
and so I was talking so this this

2505
03:00:01.000 --> 03:00:03.479
was the first time they were showing
it as just Marvel versus Capcom Too.

2506
03:00:03.319 --> 03:00:07.440
And I'm sorry, no, Marvel
Ultimate Alliance. Fuck, Marvel Ultimate Alliance

2507
03:00:07.479 --> 03:00:13.479
is what I meant, Marvel My
point, my Marvel Ultimate Alliance too.

2508
03:00:13.959 --> 03:00:16.920
What's being called Marvel Ltimate Alliance two
fusion. So you're making it so much

2509
03:00:16.959 --> 03:00:22.840
faster, Adam, it's your fault. Oh wait, I thought you said,

2510
03:00:24.879 --> 03:00:26.600
so, so I was asking,
I was talking to one of the

2511
03:00:26.639 --> 03:00:28.120
guys that my cars fusions, like, so, you know what what happened

2512
03:00:28.159 --> 03:00:30.639
with the name. They said,
well, so you know, we were

2513
03:00:30.680 --> 03:00:33.680
calling it this, and then we
hired this company, paid them, you

2514
03:00:33.760 --> 03:00:37.680
know, tens of thousands of dollars
to do research and help us figure out,

2515
03:00:37.680 --> 03:00:39.920
you know, what is it that
we should call this name. And

2516
03:00:39.120 --> 03:00:41.760
they came back and said, yeah, we really think you should call this

2517
03:00:41.840 --> 03:00:46.600
game Marvel Ultimate Alliance too. Give
us our money. I was just like,

2518
03:00:46.040 --> 03:00:50.040
what a fucking scam this is.
Of course they're going to call the

2519
03:00:50.120 --> 03:00:54.920
chequal this game Marvel Ultimate Alliance too, but but no, you have to

2520
03:00:54.959 --> 03:00:58.840
pay someone a shitload of money to
figure that out, apparently to confirm exactly

2521
03:00:58.959 --> 03:01:01.520
I thought you said Marvel Ultima Online
first. That would have been cool,

2522
03:01:01.680 --> 03:01:07.680
like Marvel Ultimate Yeah, yeah,
yeah, go play as Wolfine, go

2523
03:01:07.799 --> 03:01:15.399
kill Lord British and yeah, it
flips into asymmetric like you can get the

2524
03:01:15.680 --> 03:01:20.360
you know, click ships, pitch
to pitch to semn all right feature on

2525
03:01:20.440 --> 03:01:24.159
the box. We're gonna, we're
gonna, we're gonna wrap up this this

2526
03:01:24.280 --> 03:01:28.479
segment here. I've had enough of
you sick assholes unless you have anything else

2527
03:01:28.680 --> 03:01:31.879
insightful to say, John Vianaki,
I don't think we can talk anything else

2528
03:01:31.959 --> 03:01:35.079
insightful to say, Hey, Dave, you have anything incightful to say?

2529
03:01:35.680 --> 03:01:41.159
Never, Okay, I have.
I'm actually uh so, the one thing

2530
03:01:41.159 --> 03:01:45.360
I'll say is this. For Easter, I bought myself three DS and I

2531
03:01:45.520 --> 03:01:52.719
texted Jeff and I was like,
you should the traditional self Easter presence when

2532
03:01:52.719 --> 03:01:58.639
you're a Catholic for Easter after Jesus
did persons. I'm gonna buy myself a

2533
03:01:58.680 --> 03:02:05.719
little just such an asshole, so
what Yeah, so I texted Jeff.

2534
03:02:07.399 --> 03:02:09.600
Nothing. I texted Jeff and I
was like, Hey, what games should

2535
03:02:09.600 --> 03:02:13.440
I get? And he's like,
He's like, writes back dot dot dot.

2536
03:02:16.079 --> 03:02:18.760
I'm like, no, Like,
hey, what games should I get

2537
03:02:18.799 --> 03:02:22.200
me? He's like, there's really
no games. Yeah. And so seeing

2538
03:02:22.399 --> 03:02:26.040
all the games that are coming to
three DS has actually made me really excited.

2539
03:02:26.159 --> 03:02:28.479
I'm excited to see the level of
support. I know, like earlier

2540
03:02:28.520 --> 03:02:31.559
you guys are talking about Luigi's mansion. That one not so much for me.

2541
03:02:31.760 --> 03:02:37.479
But the Super Mario, the new
Mario three DS looks cool. Star

2542
03:02:37.600 --> 03:02:41.959
Fox I wish was like, I
wish it was more new content rather than

2543
03:02:41.000 --> 03:02:46.319
a rehash of sixteen. Yeah.
But the Mario Kart looks awesome. I'm

2544
03:02:46.319 --> 03:02:52.639
super excited about that. Does anyone
have anything else to say? What's that?

2545
03:02:52.120 --> 03:02:54.799
Any new advanced Wars? They have
nothing they have announced so far.

2546
03:02:56.799 --> 03:03:03.479
They kind of sucked that up with
the last one they did for DS H.

2547
03:03:03.680 --> 03:03:07.520
I don't know if if they said
anything about Layton yet. No.

2548
03:03:07.559 --> 03:03:09.280
I didn't hear anything about that.
But oh no they did. They did

2549
03:03:09.360 --> 03:03:11.760
say that they're they're doing something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they definitely

2550
03:03:11.760 --> 03:03:16.399
said they're doing something. What's that? Yeah, there's to my you know

2551
03:03:16.440 --> 03:03:18.280
what. When I went to the
Nintendo booth, I went straight up to

2552
03:03:18.440 --> 03:03:22.159
the we U space plate all that
stuff and then bailed. So I didn't

2553
03:03:22.159 --> 03:03:24.799
see any of the three DS stuff. So what's that you got? Cuts?

2554
03:03:26.440 --> 03:03:28.719
No, No, they have like
an upstairs area where you can just

2555
03:03:28.159 --> 03:03:33.399
go up there if it's yeah,
yeah, no, it's don't have don't

2556
03:03:33.440 --> 03:03:35.559
have to worry. No, it's
it's high dude. Actually, you know

2557
03:03:35.600 --> 03:03:39.319
what, Jumping lines feels awful?
Like I hate that because you see,

2558
03:03:39.440 --> 03:03:41.799
like at the Nintendo booth, especially
where there's dudes that are there for like

2559
03:03:41.959 --> 03:03:46.879
the entire day standing in line.
No my favorite. As we were rolling

2560
03:03:46.879 --> 03:03:50.639
through the Nintendo today with John and
he's like, there's a lot of Nintendo

2561
03:03:50.719 --> 03:03:56.000
girls up in this booth. Are
they all have bleach blonde hair? The

2562
03:03:56.440 --> 03:04:01.000
Nintendo shirts in the Nintendo booth.
I know, guys noticed that they all

2563
03:04:01.000 --> 03:04:05.280
have the same hair color. It
was kind of fembody. I thought it.

2564
03:04:05.600 --> 03:04:09.520
I guess we're calling new system Nintendo. Then us be brain reck ended.

2565
03:04:09.600 --> 03:04:13.159
Brian all right, gentlemen, thank
you so much for your time.

2566
03:04:13.879 --> 03:04:22.120
Dave La, Chris Charli, Simon
Vicklin, Adam Boyez and of course John

2567
03:04:22.239 --> 03:04:26.959
vinc We're gonna take another break.
We're gonna reset here and maybe get some

2568
03:04:26.040 --> 03:04:31.879
Giant Bomb guys on the couch here
for our our final segment here end of

2569
03:04:31.079 --> 03:04:37.680
day two here three twenty eleven.
We'll right back try and not to die.

2570
03:04:41.479 --> 03:05:20.600
Were alive, all right, and
we are back now here at the

2571
03:05:20.639 --> 03:05:24.879
Giant Bomb House e three twenty eleven, Day two in the books, our

2572
03:05:24.959 --> 03:05:30.840
final hour here tonight we have Jeff
Gerssman back on the couch. I don't

2573
03:05:30.879 --> 03:05:33.159
think you can call it day two
in the books while we're still doing this

2574
03:05:35.319 --> 03:05:39.120
unless you unless you're just referring to
it being after midnight. Now day two

2575
03:05:39.200 --> 03:05:43.000
is over, begin it's now it's
now day three. Here, it's twelve,

2576
03:05:46.719 --> 03:05:54.280
getting more. I thought you were
lying over in Twitter. I was

2577
03:05:54.360 --> 03:06:01.440
really oping you were lying, don't
great, rest of the house say,

2578
03:06:01.600 --> 03:06:07.959
say what's up? He's so tall, even when he's sitting still so tall.

2579
03:06:09.079 --> 03:06:16.879
There's another body here you Hello,
everybody? Great? Are you doing

2580
03:06:18.319 --> 03:06:20.559
doing? Great? Man? Fantastic? You guys got a nice set up

2581
03:06:20.600 --> 03:06:26.280
here? Yeah, now like two
nights here? Double fine, Cach,

2582
03:06:26.360 --> 03:06:30.000
I know we're ruining the whole thing. Huh. Are you here to correct

2583
03:06:30.079 --> 03:06:33.680
the statements made by the trench team
last time? I didn't hear any of

2584
03:06:33.719 --> 03:06:37.319
them, so I'll make them all
again. Okay, fantastic characters chrests here

2585
03:06:37.360 --> 03:06:41.280
for mythic Carys High. Hello,
how you doing? I'm good? From

2586
03:06:41.280 --> 03:06:45.120
the East coasts. Yeah, Alex
Davarro back on the couch, also out

2587
03:06:45.120 --> 03:06:46.639
from the East coast. Also from
the East coast. That's that's accurate,

2588
03:06:46.680 --> 03:06:52.879
Patrick, that's totally correct. Yeah, it's a bottle of wine that someone

2589
03:06:52.000 --> 03:06:56.520
came by the house and dropped off. Pretty pretty empt. He's a fan.

2590
03:06:56.680 --> 03:07:00.239
The Giant bomb fan is a bottle
of one. No, no,

2591
03:07:00.440 --> 03:07:03.120
that bottle of wine. There's literally
there's literally a bottle of the bottle of

2592
03:07:03.120 --> 03:07:07.600
wine sitting right next to the camera
open. And just what I liked is

2593
03:07:07.639 --> 03:07:09.239
that someone took it out like they
were planning on, like like we had

2594
03:07:09.319 --> 03:07:11.239
ran out of beer, and so
I was like, all right's break out

2595
03:07:11.280 --> 03:07:16.760
the chardonnay. It's time to do
this for real. As the escalation rides

2596
03:07:16.840 --> 03:07:20.680
beer, wine, heroin. Those
are the only three steps. That's it

2597
03:07:22.040 --> 03:07:24.559
as far as I know. Uh, Logan, you want to introduce yourself

2598
03:07:24.600 --> 03:07:28.799
to the folks at home here?
Sure, my name is Logan, honeym

2599
03:07:28.879 --> 03:07:33.040
my work with super Giant Games.
I am the narrator of Bastion is and

2600
03:07:35.479 --> 03:07:43.000
next next to him doing Twitter,
next da sorry, next to him doing

2601
03:07:43.600 --> 03:07:50.280
that hardcore confirmation cricket. Soft name
is also pronounced ron Perlman. I can't

2602
03:07:50.280 --> 03:07:56.399
believe you can. I get a
ward never changes from me real quick?

2603
03:07:56.559 --> 03:08:03.559
Why boy never came? That was
a likeness is startling. It's weird.

2604
03:08:03.840 --> 03:08:07.479
I saw him on the street in
New York recently and I wanted to go

2605
03:08:07.639 --> 03:08:13.319
and go like, reach up and
bast you man, how's your Michael Caine

2606
03:08:15.159 --> 03:08:16.920
Michael Kin. They were never here
for that joke. But that's not a

2607
03:08:16.959 --> 03:08:22.239
bad Michael. The last one we
heard that joke was seven hours ago.

2608
03:08:24.360 --> 03:08:31.159
Joke. I want to congratulate you
guys. We have most of if not

2609
03:08:31.280 --> 03:08:35.680
the entire Super Giant team here in
the house, and I wanted to congratulate

2610
03:08:35.920 --> 03:08:39.639
congratulate you guys on the air for
for getting into the summer of Arcade.

2611
03:08:39.719 --> 03:08:50.479
Thanks a big deal. Yeah,
congratulations, guys, Can I have a

2612
03:08:50.559 --> 03:08:56.239
different couch? That's my right showed
up. Oh that's what the tall one,

2613
03:08:58.120 --> 03:09:01.159
he's a monster. Then you guys
get pushed out of shirt. You're

2614
03:09:01.159 --> 03:09:07.120
all dead. Sea Trench is ready
to go slide right in there. But

2615
03:09:07.559 --> 03:09:11.440
well, I wanted to congratulate Deli
Fining on getting through sert with trench.

2616
03:09:13.840 --> 03:09:28.040
Yeah a while ago. Oh Jesus, Jonathan blowback all these problems here today.

2617
03:09:30.239 --> 03:09:33.280
That's that's the whole plan. So
how has the show been for you

2618
03:09:33.360 --> 03:09:37.280
guys? You're you're in the war
both you're also obviously since you're partisan k

2619
03:09:37.360 --> 03:09:39.840
you're also in the Microsoft booth as
well. Yeah, it's it's really good.

2620
03:09:39.920 --> 03:09:43.799
We're we're some of it's kind of
shocking that like we can get any

2621
03:09:43.879 --> 03:09:48.520
kind of attention at a show like
this with like Battlefield three and like Batman

2622
03:09:48.760 --> 03:09:52.000
Arkham City like right next to us. But it's I guess it's a different

2623
03:09:52.159 --> 03:09:56.399
enough for something where people are taking
notice a bunch of Australians coming by today

2624
03:09:56.399 --> 03:10:00.399
and whatnot who haven't seen the game
before. So it's pretty cool. So

2625
03:10:00.600 --> 03:10:03.200
so obviously a lot of people seeing
this game for the first time at the

2626
03:10:03.239 --> 03:10:07.399
show here, Uh like, how
how is that experience being kind of seeing

2627
03:10:07.680 --> 03:10:11.920
a lot like just a volume of
people's first reaction to this title. It's

2628
03:10:11.159 --> 03:10:15.399
it's really great though. We we've
we've sort of had that before it like

2629
03:10:15.479 --> 03:10:18.559
packs and stuff like that, so
we've we've shown we've shown this portion of

2630
03:10:18.600 --> 03:10:24.680
the game before, so it part
of it is like we we're we're pretty

2631
03:10:24.760 --> 03:10:26.639
confident in this in this part,
like we know where people are gonna laugh

2632
03:10:26.680 --> 03:10:30.520
and stuff like that, and it's
like, yeah, got them. So

2633
03:10:31.280 --> 03:10:35.559
that that part is really satisfying to
see people like responding, well, you

2634
03:10:35.639 --> 03:10:39.799
know at the stuff that we tried
to kind of try to nail those particular

2635
03:10:39.920 --> 03:10:43.200
moments. So there have been demos
that you've done where you where people just

2636
03:10:43.360 --> 03:10:45.360
clearly didn't get it and they were
just like, all right, you guys

2637
03:10:45.680 --> 03:10:48.920
whatever. And there's there's some no, yeah, they're they're there are people

2638
03:10:48.959 --> 03:10:52.239
who are like some people are way
more kind of expressive than a motive about

2639
03:10:52.239 --> 03:10:56.600
it than others. Some people are
like they'll kind of rush through it seemed

2640
03:10:56.600 --> 03:10:58.079
like really pissed off. They'll die
a bunch of times where like this guy

2641
03:10:58.200 --> 03:11:01.959
fucking hated it, and then and
then they'll be like that was awesome.

2642
03:11:03.200 --> 03:11:07.200
A lot of people that are like
surprisingly you know, because our demos on

2643
03:11:07.319 --> 03:11:09.840
the long side, I guess,
yeah, a lot of people are surprisingly

2644
03:11:09.879 --> 03:11:11.959
courteous. They stopped short, just
like, no, I want to let

2645
03:11:11.159 --> 03:11:16.879
these people buying me. It's not
really sing to Not And I like from

2646
03:11:16.040 --> 03:11:20.120
hearing him say from Minecraft, and
I was playing and I just got in

2647
03:11:20.159 --> 03:11:22.280
my hands on it, and I
like, I'm in and in, and

2648
03:11:22.360 --> 03:11:24.000
then I hear him say, well, do you want to see the game,

2649
03:11:24.079 --> 03:11:28.239
And I'm like, oh shit,
it's not I better I mean with

2650
03:11:28.360 --> 03:11:31.479
that, but of course I am
buying it anyway, so we don't need

2651
03:11:31.520 --> 03:11:39.440
to sell me on it. But
oh no, yeah no Not said it

2652
03:11:39.559 --> 03:11:43.120
was the best game he played yesterday. Is like publicly throw that out there

2653
03:11:43.200 --> 03:11:46.760
to his like legions of to his
army of minions. So we're like,

2654
03:11:46.879 --> 03:11:54.360
oh damn, that was inside of
Minecraft. Yeah that is fine, fine

2655
03:11:54.440 --> 03:11:56.879
by me if they could start those
Minecraft mods right now for all I care.

2656
03:11:58.440 --> 03:12:01.079
Yeah. So, so in short, yeah, it's it's it's really

2657
03:12:01.159 --> 03:12:05.680
cool. So so you've you've shown
this section before at packs. Was was

2658
03:12:05.719 --> 03:12:11.120
there anything that you that from that
showing that that you guys took and and

2659
03:12:11.520 --> 03:12:16.639
kind of incorporated or maybe made some
tweaks based on that reaction? There's only

2660
03:12:16.840 --> 03:12:24.159
one thing I can think of.
Oh besides that, a mirror off camera

2661
03:12:24.639 --> 03:12:28.399
said, we we rerecorded everything.
Yeah, so we we polished a ton

2662
03:12:28.479 --> 03:12:33.239
of stuff. We rerecorded all the
intro lines because like the the intro lines

2663
03:12:33.319 --> 03:12:35.559
at the beginning of the game,
where it was some of the first stuff

2664
03:12:35.559 --> 03:12:39.959
that we recorded. And now after
the whole story is done, Logan and

2665
03:12:41.079 --> 03:12:43.719
Darren went back and like kind of
redid the whole intro to get it to

2666
03:12:43.840 --> 03:12:48.239
fit the the overall tone of the
voice performance and also like sort of carry

2667
03:12:48.319 --> 03:12:52.440
the weight of the narrator knowing what
is behind those those words at the beginning

2668
03:12:52.479 --> 03:12:56.680
and whatnot. It was surprisingly tough. Uh, well, you could speak

2669
03:12:56.719 --> 03:13:01.440
to it to nail down again.
But we're we're really happy with where it

2670
03:13:01.639 --> 03:13:05.280
ended up. But there there was
also one little moment that we added the

2671
03:13:05.319 --> 03:13:09.920
summer summersaulting like crazy. But yeah, we added another little like gag moment

2672
03:13:11.000 --> 03:13:13.000
to the intro that people are responding
to really well, or like if you

2673
03:13:13.200 --> 03:13:16.079
if you you know the game is
full of little things where like if you

2674
03:13:16.159 --> 03:13:20.639
goof around, it'll kind of notice
and say something about it, and people

2675
03:13:20.760 --> 03:13:24.760
like people just flip out. Was
that in the build that was the thing

2676
03:13:24.879 --> 03:13:30.159
before the show the Yes, because
I heard it at that point and yeah,

2677
03:13:30.799 --> 03:13:33.559
maybe I didn't sault like crazy the
other times. Yeah, yeah,

2678
03:13:33.600 --> 03:13:37.440
summersaulting like crazy is a is a
new moment, yeah, that we added.

2679
03:13:37.520 --> 03:13:41.079
So the game is game seems to
be funnier than I thought it was.

2680
03:13:41.440 --> 03:13:46.120
And Boone played yesterday afternoon. He
laughed at every single Yeah. Boone's

2681
03:13:46.120 --> 03:13:50.040
reaction was awesome. Like three hours
to get through the whole thing. I

2682
03:13:50.159 --> 03:13:54.399
just could not stop savoring it.
He was just trying to uppercut people.

2683
03:13:54.040 --> 03:13:56.719
It doesn't work, so to kick
him out, make him for the Australians.

2684
03:13:58.440 --> 03:14:01.719
See, I think he's just looking
at that for ideas for the next

2685
03:14:01.760 --> 03:14:07.760
game is exactly out. Yeah,
I was trying to get this guy in

2686
03:14:07.879 --> 03:14:11.440
the next time it's available, I
bet. Yeah, dudes put me in

2687
03:14:11.520 --> 03:14:16.000
a motion capture suit. Yeah all
right, So so I know you guys

2688
03:14:16.040 --> 03:14:20.520
have been content locked for a while, but was there anything from this showing

2689
03:14:20.719 --> 03:14:26.000
like it I have to imagine at
a certain point that it's hard to stop

2690
03:14:26.159 --> 03:14:30.159
developing. Yeah, Like, was
there were there any moments during this this

2691
03:14:30.319 --> 03:14:33.879
show or like you were you were
watching people playing or thinking like like there's

2692
03:14:33.959 --> 03:14:37.079
this there's this one thing, or
there's like not not yeah, not so

2693
03:14:37.239 --> 03:14:41.879
much to tell you now that the
game is done, Yeah, exactly,

2694
03:14:41.000 --> 03:14:46.799
Yeah, fair enough, it's yeah, there there's no no I mean,

2695
03:14:46.920 --> 03:14:50.520
especially for this opening part. It's
been played sure, it's been played through

2696
03:14:50.600 --> 03:14:56.239
like hundreds of times, so we
were pretty sure we've seen most of what

2697
03:14:56.360 --> 03:15:01.079
can happen there. And and yeah, some people have like better playthroughs than

2698
03:15:01.399 --> 03:15:05.959
others, depending on like how they
uh make certain things happen whatnot. But

2699
03:15:05.399 --> 03:15:09.879
it seems to hold up. You
know, you haven't like you haven't everything.

2700
03:15:11.440 --> 03:15:15.440
Yeah, absolutely, you know,
so we're aware of that for sure.

2701
03:15:15.680 --> 03:15:20.000
Yeah, it's like it's like we
but basically to the extent that we

2702
03:15:20.280 --> 03:15:24.559
humanly can play it and test it
ourselves. We've seen everything, and then

2703
03:15:24.840 --> 03:15:26.600
when we release it out in the
wild, there's going to be all kinds

2704
03:15:26.639 --> 03:15:30.879
of horrible shit that we never possibly
imagine. So we're aware of that,

2705
03:15:31.040 --> 03:15:33.920
but like we can't find it ourselves
at this point no matter how much we

2706
03:15:33.079 --> 03:15:37.760
play. So well, very cool. So so you said, ed Boone,

2707
03:15:37.840 --> 03:15:41.239
not any any other kind of surprise, folks, Yeah, we we

2708
03:15:41.360 --> 03:15:45.399
had. Yeah, the Scott Porter, one of the actors on Friday Night

2709
03:15:45.520 --> 03:16:01.120
Lights was st Yeah, Jason Street, it's really so he can't play Once

2710
03:16:01.200 --> 03:16:05.079
upon a Monster. Fortunate we had
jj Abrams today, did you Okay?

2711
03:16:05.639 --> 03:16:13.239
That beats up all right, arcade, but those are all pretty good.

2712
03:16:13.319 --> 03:16:16.719
But I have to I think I
think our city might have had the best

2713
03:16:16.760 --> 03:16:20.959
celebrity to say apparently Dwayne Wade was
Yeah, it was. It was Dwayne

2714
03:16:20.000 --> 03:16:24.959
Wayne like from from a different world, like showed up and started playing Arkham

2715
03:16:24.040 --> 03:16:30.079
City. I thought he was dead. No, Dwayne Wayne from a different

2716
03:16:30.120 --> 03:16:37.719
world to sitcom player. I wasn't
gonna have to choke a bit. That's

2717
03:16:37.760 --> 03:16:46.719
way Brady man. You were dude, Hell come, you guys didn't get

2718
03:16:46.760 --> 03:16:50.799
ice Tea while he's in town.
Don't think I didn't fucking try. I'm

2719
03:16:50.879 --> 03:16:54.040
sorry, don't think I haven't been
trying. Sorry, I opened up,

2720
03:16:54.959 --> 03:16:58.639
reached out to ye, mister t
mister t Wa, No, I've reached

2721
03:17:00.159 --> 03:17:03.159
I've reached out to Ice on repeated
occasions. When I when I saw that

2722
03:17:03.200 --> 03:17:05.280
he was gonna be in town,
was like, he's like replied, he's

2723
03:17:05.319 --> 03:17:07.559
giving you the time of day on
I've talked to him. I called it,

2724
03:17:07.799 --> 03:17:09.760
called me on the phone. He
had his phone number. Yeah,

2725
03:17:09.799 --> 03:17:11.559
I could. I could call him
right now. That would be really bad

2726
03:17:11.760 --> 03:17:16.000
busy with him. Maybe he's filming
SVU or I'm just I'm I don't know.

2727
03:17:18.840 --> 03:17:22.319
Now. It's nerve racking. Every
time it's like all right, kind

2728
03:17:22.319 --> 03:17:24.760
of gotta like ant myself up,
like all right, I'm gonna email Ice

2729
03:17:24.840 --> 03:17:26.639
Tea and like what am I gonna
like how do I open this this email?

2730
03:17:26.959 --> 03:17:31.239
Mister I, Yeah, it's almost
you right at the end, like

2731
03:17:31.440 --> 03:17:37.840
take care, sig, I look
forward to your proms reply. Yes,

2732
03:17:37.399 --> 03:17:41.040
no, it always starts with Ice
comma and then go from there. But

2733
03:17:41.879 --> 03:17:45.639
no, unfortunately, no Ice,
no Ice Tea. Yeah, we still

2734
03:17:45.639 --> 03:17:48.440
have one more day to go.
Anything ever, know, maybe he'll just

2735
03:17:48.559 --> 03:17:52.920
walk through this door like everyone else
has so far past three nights, to

2736
03:17:54.040 --> 03:17:56.520
just get Cliffy B to show up
and then he'll be her ticket in.

2737
03:17:56.399 --> 03:17:58.120
Yeah, I guess, yeah,
I thought that would that would be a

2738
03:17:58.239 --> 03:18:03.719
good a good time hold for sure, greg Rice, you've been a stone's

2739
03:18:03.799 --> 03:18:07.399
throw from these fellas for for at
least a portion of this show. Dem

2740
03:18:07.639 --> 03:18:09.639
right next to us, demoing Sesame
Street Once Upon a Monster, which I

2741
03:18:09.760 --> 03:18:13.600
had the pleasure of of walking through
the booth and and game to see you

2742
03:18:13.760 --> 03:18:18.479
do the guy the large monster movements
as the large monster that you are.

2743
03:18:18.680 --> 03:18:26.879
I didn't see enough. Yeah,
well I'm also demoly entrenched and okay,

2744
03:18:26.920 --> 03:18:30.079
so you're splitting your time between them. Yes, that's that's got to be

2745
03:18:30.120 --> 03:18:33.319
a hard swing. Well, yeah
it is. And demo a Connect game

2746
03:18:33.440 --> 03:18:37.440
is way harder than demoing a standard
game. It's exhausting. Yeah, the

2747
03:18:37.760 --> 03:18:46.120
central guys, this guy yea Connect. Actually we swapped today. We swapped

2748
03:18:46.159 --> 03:18:50.120
and I was dancing and he was
monstering today for a little bit. While

2749
03:18:50.680 --> 03:18:52.920
it's great, it's just put you
on a loop, just like all the

2750
03:18:52.079 --> 03:18:54.680
all the guys demo Connect games,
just like all right and Ring the bell

2751
03:18:54.760 --> 03:18:58.639
and everybody moves one day for the
right. It's a good idea. So

2752
03:18:58.920 --> 03:19:01.719
once upon a monster, Like,
that's an interesting game to show at at

2753
03:19:01.719 --> 03:19:05.040
an event like E three, because
you know it's it's let's call it a

2754
03:19:05.079 --> 03:19:07.680
family game, let's call it a
kid's game, but it's it is not

2755
03:19:09.000 --> 03:19:13.920
like a game aimed for the kind
of the industry professionals that are coming through

2756
03:19:13.600 --> 03:19:16.000
E three. Well, so what
is what has the response been? Like?

2757
03:19:16.239 --> 03:19:20.200
You, you know you're you're at
least in theory, you have to

2758
03:19:20.239 --> 03:19:28.120
be seventeen to get into three.
I know you and I are prove positive

2759
03:19:28.200 --> 03:19:31.079
that all I'm saying there are signs. Yeah, and I saw I saw

2760
03:19:31.159 --> 03:19:35.799
Marcus Beier posted a photo of someone
who had this fucking toddler with him at

2761
03:19:35.840 --> 03:19:39.920
E three with something like that's so
awful thing to do to everyone at E

2762
03:19:39.959 --> 03:19:45.360
three and also to your goddamn toddler. But so like considering the audience,

2763
03:19:45.879 --> 03:19:48.479
like, how has the reaction been
like showing this game off to grown as

2764
03:19:48.559 --> 03:19:52.879
adults. Yeah, no, it's
been very positive. I mean a lot

2765
03:19:52.920 --> 03:19:54.600
of people have kids, right,
and they want something to play with their

2766
03:19:54.680 --> 03:19:58.920
kids and not be annoyed by and
that's kind of what we're trying to do.

2767
03:20:00.000 --> 03:20:01.280
Who is like makes something it'll be
simple that kids can pick up.

2768
03:20:01.319 --> 03:20:05.000
But like, if they play it
like twenty times in a row, you're

2769
03:20:05.040 --> 03:20:09.040
not gonna get sick of the annoying
voices and the music. That's that's the

2770
03:20:09.280 --> 03:20:11.840
That's the thing you have to consider, is that it is going to just

2771
03:20:11.920 --> 03:20:18.719
get played over and over and over
again. Ideally. Yeah, but ideally

2772
03:20:18.719 --> 03:20:20.000
they'll buy a new copy every time
they go to play. Oh, yeah,

2773
03:20:20.079 --> 03:20:28.440
it only plays once, you have
to yeahs created new technology or yeah,

2774
03:20:28.440 --> 03:20:31.000
they've just bought the old Divic's technology. You rate it into their discs.

2775
03:20:31.000 --> 03:20:33.360
When you beat the game, it's
like a little secret message pops up

2776
03:20:33.399 --> 03:20:37.200
very quickly that says, hey,
kids, take the disc out and scratch

2777
03:20:37.239 --> 03:20:43.959
it up, put on it to
free the monster. Yeah. Another Now,

2778
03:20:45.000 --> 03:20:48.479
there's obviously tons of competition amongst you
know, like the various shooters and

2779
03:20:48.520 --> 03:20:50.879
action games. One either are you
out there like you know, trying to

2780
03:20:50.920 --> 03:20:54.319
kneecap the kids game competition like are
you walking up the happy feet and like

2781
03:20:54.479 --> 03:21:01.280
kicking their screen over like Shakneyland people. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, there's

2782
03:21:01.280 --> 03:21:03.799
a lot of competition out there.
Yeah, you gotta do whatever you can.

2783
03:21:03.000 --> 03:21:07.159
So did you do the J.
J Abrams demo? I didn't know

2784
03:21:07.360 --> 03:21:09.120
I missed it, but yeah,
he came by. I was gonna be

2785
03:21:09.120 --> 03:21:13.200
pissed you didn't call me. Well, I was pissed. And the people

2786
03:21:13.239 --> 03:21:16.719
who did it didn't really you know, they're not lost fans and not like

2787
03:21:16.799 --> 03:21:18.000
Patrick and I, well, I
just I even just mentioned like we were

2788
03:21:18.040 --> 03:21:22.520
walking around the hall the first day
and J James walked by two minutes into

2789
03:21:22.520 --> 03:21:24.760
the show. Yeah, and I
just kind of like turned to Patrick.

2790
03:21:26.079 --> 03:21:28.680
J James was walked by, and
Patrick became unfucking glued. He's like,

2791
03:21:28.840 --> 03:21:35.159
what's where? Oh? Manent to
the show? He remade. I was

2792
03:21:35.200 --> 03:21:39.559
like, I don't care, mother, you saw JJ Abrams but i't even

2793
03:21:39.799 --> 03:21:45.959
stim peeling his closed off. But
this show, like I had J.

2794
03:21:46.120 --> 03:21:48.840
J Abrams, you know, Brad
had John Carmack, Like, well that

2795
03:21:48.959 --> 03:21:52.079
was that was the thing that the
comment you made to me about the John

2796
03:21:52.159 --> 03:21:56.719
Carmack thing is that obviously Brad kind
of freaked out about about the John car

2797
03:21:56.840 --> 03:21:58.479
thing. And he said, but
that would be the same thing as if

2798
03:21:58.559 --> 03:22:01.399
like I had to go and interview
JJ Abrams, Like I wouldn't be able

2799
03:22:01.479 --> 03:22:11.120
to form words or sentence. Yeah, well it's it's it's good to hear

2800
03:22:11.200 --> 03:22:16.120
that the reaction has been been strong
to your game and to both of your

2801
03:22:16.120 --> 03:22:20.959
games. That's that's that's also good
games for sure. We are brothers doing

2802
03:22:20.000 --> 03:22:24.440
it. Hey, carry Hi,
what are you doing at the show?

2803
03:22:26.680 --> 03:22:30.120
To be fair, I'm a tourist
slash like having a couple of meetings and

2804
03:22:30.159 --> 03:22:33.159
stuff. Okay, you know,
like all the business folks come out and

2805
03:22:33.319 --> 03:22:35.959
you go and talk to people,
and it's a good time to catch up

2806
03:22:35.000 --> 03:22:39.760
with friends and things, certainly and
hassling all my reviewer friends and being like

2807
03:22:39.920 --> 03:22:41.000
just give me a hog really quick, and you gotta go right stuff.

2808
03:22:41.040 --> 03:22:45.479
So well, thanks for making time
to come out and hang out the house

2809
03:22:45.639 --> 03:22:52.799
tonight. Almost your your busy bizdev
schedule, that's weird. Almost all your

2810
03:22:52.840 --> 03:23:01.520
power points can make whatever rich a
last night talking about scrums. So at

2811
03:23:01.600 --> 03:23:03.879
some point, I don't know when
it happened. At some point I realized

2812
03:23:03.879 --> 03:23:07.440
it became the man and was like, oh my god, I'm the man.

2813
03:23:07.600 --> 03:23:11.520
This is horrible, but it's been
kind of exciting and fun and the

2814
03:23:11.559 --> 03:23:15.200
man I always knew you would become. I think literally everyone in the chat

2815
03:23:15.280 --> 03:23:18.399
for a second there, I thought
you said I became a man. That's

2816
03:23:18.920 --> 03:23:22.200
okay, How can I get into
that? We talked about that before the

2817
03:23:22.239 --> 03:23:26.799
podcast. Carrie. You have you
have you been had time to kick around

2818
03:23:26.799 --> 03:23:31.479
the floor at all? Have you
seen anything? Yeah, so I admit

2819
03:23:31.600 --> 03:23:33.200
to waiting an embarrassed will be a
long time to see the we you.

2820
03:23:33.559 --> 03:23:37.639
Yeah, what was your total clock
in time? Uh? See, two

2821
03:23:37.680 --> 03:23:43.920
and a half three hours and so
what time? Yeah, it was the

2822
03:23:43.959 --> 03:23:46.840
first day at twelve o'clock. Did
the like nerd of you know, the

2823
03:23:46.920 --> 03:23:52.840
nerds stampede over the the nerd heard
and kind of made a little like slick

2824
03:23:52.920 --> 03:23:54.159
turn into the line, maybe a
little bit earlier than I should have,

2825
03:23:54.319 --> 03:23:58.520
and ended up being like much farther
up the line, and got about twenty

2826
03:23:58.559 --> 03:24:01.239
minutes in. I was twelve twenty
and then teno guy walks by and goes,

2827
03:24:01.319 --> 03:24:05.559
the line is shut for the day. They had filled out six hours

2828
03:24:05.639 --> 03:24:09.879
in the first twenty minutes and they
went and it's done. So it was

2829
03:24:09.920 --> 03:24:13.559
a painful weight just because of that
screeching bird in Nintendo booth. But it

2830
03:24:13.639 --> 03:24:18.520
is like show us a little too
loud. Did you sit down on the

2831
03:24:18.600 --> 03:24:24.840
line, No, is that like
sitting I'm I guess people sitting on the

2832
03:24:24.920 --> 03:24:30.760
floor like going through the stuff in
the bag that they got while waiting in

2833
03:24:30.840 --> 03:24:33.879
this line, what's your problem?
D Oh, I'm sorry. I love

2834
03:24:37.360 --> 03:24:45.920
professional Yeah. Yeah. So I
walked up and got the want to play

2835
03:24:45.920 --> 03:24:48.520
the Pirate Game and realized like,
strategically I had made an error because I

2836
03:24:48.600 --> 03:24:50.920
had chose the one that was I
me enough that I chose, but I

2837
03:24:52.040 --> 03:24:54.840
was the one on the edge of
all of the WEIU where people could come

2838
03:24:54.879 --> 03:24:58.200
and stand and watch, and got
is putting that Pirate Game and there's that

2839
03:24:58.319 --> 03:25:01.399
awesome like freestyle dance, but it
the end where you're supposed to like really

2840
03:25:01.479 --> 03:25:05.280
get into it. And twenty seconds
before that part and the guy's egging me

2841
03:25:05.360 --> 03:25:07.639
on like you're gonna You're gonna like
do it a lot, right, I'm

2842
03:25:07.639 --> 03:25:11.319
like, yeah, I'm a problem
whatever. Like twenty seconds with the end,

2843
03:25:11.399 --> 03:25:13.920
like camera crew shows up and it's
like, faw man, I'm like,

2844
03:25:13.079 --> 03:25:18.639
oh come on. So I My
theory is it's some like Romanian television

2845
03:25:18.639 --> 03:25:24.479
station is going to have like looping
footage of me being like Giant Bomb will

2846
03:25:24.520 --> 03:25:26.639
have footage of me doing that.
Because I also had a camera crew in

2847
03:25:26.719 --> 03:25:30.520
my face during that demo. Yeah, but that's yours. That was our

2848
03:25:31.600 --> 03:25:33.479
Yeah, it was that was more
on purpose. You're not going to be

2849
03:25:33.559 --> 03:25:39.319
in Poland? Uh not? You
don't know drive on Poland have chosen Romania.

2850
03:25:39.479 --> 03:25:43.959
By the way, Poland, what
was the deal with that? It's

2851
03:25:43.959 --> 03:25:48.760
a bootleg ass giant bomb website.
That's bookmark that say, that's the one

2852
03:25:48.760 --> 03:25:52.440
I read now. Yeah, they
had a brick review like two months before

2853
03:25:52.440 --> 03:25:54.479
it was done. Yeah, and
you know what, I looked at the

2854
03:25:54.520 --> 03:25:58.040
score and with like, there's no
way that game will be that bad and

2855
03:26:01.280 --> 03:26:05.200
game bombed? Are you scooping everyone? My favorite part about that site,

2856
03:26:05.719 --> 03:26:09.879
you know, so like you know
it was it was our design on this

2857
03:26:09.040 --> 03:26:13.360
other site. We don't design anymore. I don't design anymore. We we

2858
03:26:13.879 --> 03:26:18.360
changed, but keep ahead of these
sail that one too. I was blown

2859
03:26:18.399 --> 03:26:20.079
away that, like all of the
elements that they would choose to crib.

2860
03:26:20.479 --> 03:26:24.520
But then like, no, but
we have our own entirely independent editorial voice

2861
03:26:24.559 --> 03:26:28.520
and we're reviewing these games and have
our own articles like that that blew my

2862
03:26:28.559 --> 03:26:31.719
mind. But the fact that they
like on the reviews page, they have

2863
03:26:33.000 --> 03:26:37.520
their own like like little like kind
of cartoony versions of the reviewers, like

2864
03:26:37.600 --> 03:26:39.600
they they they didn't steal those parts, Like, well, we're gonna,

2865
03:26:39.680 --> 03:26:43.200
you know, have our own guys, and so we'll make these these little

2866
03:26:43.239 --> 03:26:46.479
cartoony images of our dues like that's
fucking your guys are insane, God damn

2867
03:26:46.520 --> 03:26:50.040
you game. We were actually kicking
around the idea for a while of like

2868
03:26:50.159 --> 03:26:54.000
I wanted to very quickly produce a
bunch of game because this We discovered the

2869
03:26:54.040 --> 03:26:58.799
site during the Amazon data center catastrophe
that took our site down for like three

2870
03:26:58.879 --> 03:27:03.760
day and and so that was when
this this this showed up, and I

2871
03:27:03.840 --> 03:27:05.360
was thinking, like, you know, we can't run a site right now,

2872
03:27:05.520 --> 03:27:09.239
so let's focus all of our efforts
on making T shirts out of the

2873
03:27:09.319 --> 03:27:13.879
game bomb dot ru. It's like
they're, you know, they're using our

2874
03:27:13.920 --> 03:27:16.719
ship. Let's go ahead and just
use their logo and make sure. So

2875
03:27:16.719 --> 03:27:20.360
I actually had our had our guy
going like talk talk to talk to the

2876
03:27:20.399 --> 03:27:22.959
company that makes you know, does
all our fulfilment and makes the T shirts.

2877
03:27:22.159 --> 03:27:26.000
I'm like, let's let's let's price
this out. How much it's gonna

2878
03:27:26.040 --> 03:27:28.079
cause us to do this? Can
we make these game bomb shirts? Can

2879
03:27:28.079 --> 03:27:31.000
we make it like the worst shirts, like the lowest quality boot legs,

2880
03:27:31.360 --> 03:27:35.879
like thet Yeah she should have been
like it should have been like yeah yeah,

2881
03:27:35.920 --> 03:27:41.239
like and then like black Bart Simpson
on the back like saying like just

2882
03:27:41.879 --> 03:27:50.440
do it. Yeah, yeah,
it's just Simpson smoking a blunt that it's

2883
03:27:50.440 --> 03:27:54.120
the O. J. Simpson pose. Were's breaking the bat over his knee,

2884
03:27:54.159 --> 03:28:01.239
but it's more Simpson. But then
shirts like this is why I put

2885
03:28:01.280 --> 03:28:07.399
this out here, because then it
came back that there were there were too

2886
03:28:07.440 --> 03:28:11.399
many colors in the design and it
would have like cost us an obscene amount

2887
03:28:11.399 --> 03:28:15.479
of money to actually make these shirts. And it's like not going to go

2888
03:28:15.559 --> 03:28:18.319
into the idea of like, well
let's you know, lower the colors or

2889
03:28:18.760 --> 03:28:20.959
whatever. It's like, all right, just when we spend too much money

2890
03:28:20.040 --> 03:28:24.200
on our stupid jokes, they're our
stupid jokes, right. Well, I

2891
03:28:24.239 --> 03:28:28.120
thought that was a pretty good,
pretty good stupid joke. But so what

2892
03:28:28.200 --> 03:28:31.440
did you think of the we you? What was your your impression? So

2893
03:28:31.680 --> 03:28:35.120
I thought it felt a lot better
than it looked like it was going to

2894
03:28:35.200 --> 03:28:37.600
feel. That was my first initial
reaction was like, oh God, that

2895
03:28:37.760 --> 03:28:41.600
can't feel good. And then I
noticed when when I started talking to the

2896
03:28:41.680 --> 03:28:45.680
Nintendo reps that they were very quick
to go see, it's like a tablet,

2897
03:28:45.799 --> 03:28:46.879
right, like a tablet like your
iPhone. Right, It's just like

2898
03:28:48.079 --> 03:28:50.280
the same ergonomic like your iPhone.
And I realized that was kind of the

2899
03:28:50.360 --> 03:28:56.079
angle that they were going for.
It felt good. I will probably buy

2900
03:28:56.120 --> 03:29:03.120
it because I'm buy everything. But
I think we were just spirit were standard.

2901
03:29:03.959 --> 03:29:07.600
We were chatting earlier, blind consumer
just putting shoving in front of me,

2902
03:29:11.159 --> 03:29:15.479
hold it up right here on Amazon. This is you know, this

2903
03:29:16.520 --> 03:29:18.600
a reason to ride it off on
my taxes club. That's exactly like.

2904
03:29:20.200 --> 03:29:22.719
So we were chatting earlier and it's
like, don't sleep on Nintendo, right

2905
03:29:22.719 --> 03:29:24.959
because how many of us. The
ds came out and we were like what

2906
03:29:24.200 --> 03:29:26.959
is this? And like eight months
goes by with the only awesome game was

2907
03:29:28.000 --> 03:29:30.399
Medios and we're like Medios is great, but I don't know. And then

2908
03:29:30.600 --> 03:29:33.120
a sudden like like ten games came
out that we're awesome, and we're like,

2909
03:29:33.239 --> 03:29:37.040
oh right, So it's like wait
for nintended to come out with the

2910
03:29:37.239 --> 03:29:39.799
game that will make us all buy
it, and we'll buy it. That's

2911
03:29:39.840 --> 03:29:46.520
my thought. All right, thank
you, thank you for the mic so

2912
03:29:46.719 --> 03:29:52.319
thank you for reminding me of Medios
and existed. It was awesome. It

2913
03:29:52.440 --> 03:29:54.760
was awesome. It was awesome.
It is awesome. It was you could

2914
03:29:54.760 --> 03:29:58.040
just know no, I just shake
my head along. But then you were

2915
03:29:58.079 --> 03:30:01.559
the dick that was scribbling and when
you could just play the game normal,

2916
03:30:01.200 --> 03:30:07.399
but it was it was the game. If if just scribbling is literally as

2917
03:30:07.479 --> 03:30:11.479
good as actually thinking and playing the
games, well then because anytime you get

2918
03:30:11.479 --> 03:30:15.360
into a pitch like you can play
it normally and then like oh wait shit,

2919
03:30:15.479 --> 03:30:16.959
well then I'll just scribble and then
I'll get through, you're just cheating

2920
03:30:18.040 --> 03:30:22.000
yourself at that point. Yeah,
she's to be intellectually honest, Ryan.

2921
03:30:22.280 --> 03:30:26.079
So she's saying, it's it's I'm
playing that game in ethically. Yeah,

2922
03:30:28.600 --> 03:30:35.040
if the great anything else that that
you managed to get any hands on time

2923
03:30:35.040 --> 03:30:37.520
with or see during the show,
and it needs to be that person.

2924
03:30:37.680 --> 03:30:41.159
But I know I spent some time
in the A booth obviously, and Mass

2925
03:30:41.200 --> 03:30:46.840
Effect three was just in Battlefield three
was just and so I'm really proud of

2926
03:30:46.360 --> 03:30:50.000
all of the WA's. You're an
employee, you can go back and see

2927
03:30:50.040 --> 03:30:52.079
all the cool VIP shits. Yeah, I mean, I try not to

2928
03:30:52.159 --> 03:30:56.280
abuse it like I went in some
lines, like I was walking around a

2929
03:30:56.360 --> 03:31:00.239
bunch and then she was standing in
that mass Efect three line for like two

2930
03:31:00.280 --> 03:31:03.479
hours. Like two hours we talk
about was hilarious because I didn't have to

2931
03:31:03.559 --> 03:31:07.479
wait in that line. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like we're

2932
03:31:07.520 --> 03:31:09.719
not part of BioWare, which is
amazing because we get to do all this,

2933
03:31:09.879 --> 03:31:13.479
like like we get to go see
them and hang out with them,

2934
03:31:13.559 --> 03:31:15.879
and they like, you know,
the games that we're working on now working

2935
03:31:16.000 --> 03:31:18.479
some some different stuff, and they're
like, you know, you're part of

2936
03:31:18.520 --> 03:31:20.399
BioWare, and like Rang Greg come
out and talk to us, and we

2937
03:31:20.520 --> 03:31:24.559
get to connect with all of the
studios and stuff, and I really value

2938
03:31:24.639 --> 03:31:26.479
that. And the same thing goes
with EA. We have a lot of

2939
03:31:26.520 --> 03:31:30.520
connections to THEA. But like I
don't want to abuse the fact that I

2940
03:31:30.680 --> 03:31:33.680
work there to like get in front
of legitimate press who's going to write about

2941
03:31:33.719 --> 03:31:35.520
the game. I feel like I'm
doing them a disservice, makes sense,

2942
03:31:37.399 --> 03:31:43.760
I'm not right about this. Well, let's let's talk about the game,

2943
03:31:43.840 --> 03:31:46.639
Jeff. Let's talk about some of
the stuff that you saw at E three

2944
03:31:46.719 --> 03:31:50.840
today. Yeah, so I don't
did we talk about some of the Okay,

2945
03:31:50.879 --> 03:31:54.120
yeah, we haven't talked about anything
here on the game, I know,

2946
03:31:54.040 --> 03:31:58.760
so yeah, yeah, I went
around saw a few different things.

2947
03:32:00.239 --> 03:32:03.040
Yeah, today was the day that
I went to and played mass EFFCT three

2948
03:32:03.520 --> 03:32:09.360
and saw the theater demo, and
uh, you know, up until this

2949
03:32:09.479 --> 03:32:11.600
point, up until today, you
know that they would they were talking a

2950
03:32:11.719 --> 03:32:15.079
very good game. You know,
Casey Hudson's like saying a lot of really

2951
03:32:15.120 --> 03:32:16.520
cool stuff, and you know,
I asked him a bunch of questions a

2952
03:32:16.600 --> 03:32:18.559
couple of weeks ago. You know, it's like, okay, so was

2953
03:32:18.600 --> 03:32:22.159
mining back and you know, like
like kind of specific stuff and got really

2954
03:32:22.200 --> 03:32:24.239
excited about it. And then we
got to that press conference that they just

2955
03:32:24.319 --> 03:32:31.600
showed like rail Shooter Man. That's
but the theater demo, they showed that

2956
03:32:31.719 --> 03:32:37.360
stuff. They showed some more of
the the kind of Jennifage style sequence that

2957
03:32:37.440 --> 03:32:41.040
they were showing with the female Krogan
and that source stuff. And they got

2958
03:32:41.079 --> 03:32:45.360
into the menus a little bit and
and showed the squad menu, showed like

2959
03:32:45.680 --> 03:32:48.559
Shepherd's Powers, like there's it is
a deeper tree of powers than you've had

2960
03:32:48.639 --> 03:32:52.799
before, kind of went to the
weapon customization bench and showed how that stuff

2961
03:32:52.799 --> 03:32:56.280
works. You know, you'll be
kind of like buffing your weapons by attaching

2962
03:32:56.399 --> 03:33:00.440
things to them. So so folks
have definitely taken issue with the way you

2963
03:33:00.479 --> 03:33:03.920
know, menu layouts and stuff.
There's there's been maybe a little labyrinthine elements

2964
03:33:03.959 --> 03:33:07.000
to it before. Have they like
streamlined that stuff is it's it's a different

2965
03:33:07.040 --> 03:33:13.840
color. Okay, great, Remember
it was kind of it was red before

2966
03:33:13.040 --> 03:33:18.680
and that's I couldn't tell you what
color saying is it's still awesome. Yeah,

2967
03:33:18.920 --> 03:33:24.879
I mean, okay, so people
remember Ratchet and Clank and then the

2968
03:33:24.920 --> 03:33:28.000
second Ratchet and Clank when all they
change with the color of the interface.

2969
03:33:28.200 --> 03:33:31.920
Yes, got it? Uh no, No, it's it's it's uh there.

2970
03:33:31.959 --> 03:33:39.760
There definitely seemed like there are some
really cool things going on in the

2971
03:33:39.799 --> 03:33:41.639
game. They also showed a sequence
which they said like we're showing the sequence

2972
03:33:41.680 --> 03:33:45.200
here at the show and we're never
gonna show it again until you play the

2973
03:33:45.280 --> 03:33:48.879
game for real. And it was
sort of an early game stuff where Shepherd

2974
03:33:48.959 --> 03:33:52.479
is leaving Earth because the Reapers have
come and fucked it all up. So

2975
03:33:52.559 --> 03:33:54.559
you get to see a lot of
seeing, you know, stuff of buildings

2976
03:33:54.639 --> 03:34:01.760
falling, these gigantic reapers just tearing
things apart, and you along with Anderson

2977
03:34:01.520 --> 03:34:07.280
just booking through this ripped up area, you know, and and trying to

2978
03:34:07.479 --> 03:34:11.040
basically call for help getting attacked and
and some some cool early game stuff and

2979
03:34:11.559 --> 03:34:15.399
basically being like saved by the Normandy
at the last minute. And you know

2980
03:34:15.520 --> 03:34:18.959
that the moment that ship comes in, he's like fucking yeah, god damn

2981
03:34:20.200 --> 03:34:22.360
yeah. Like by the end of
it, I was like, oh right,

2982
03:34:22.559 --> 03:34:24.680
it's fucking mass effect and I fucking
love god damn mass Effect. So

2983
03:34:24.959 --> 03:34:30.520
it's it's it's so they found yet
another kind of porny way to introduce the

2984
03:34:30.639 --> 03:34:35.159
Normandy. It's not it is not
porny because mass Effect too, when they

2985
03:34:35.520 --> 03:34:39.600
when they introduce you to the Normandy
too, it is porny. Yeah,

2986
03:34:39.959 --> 03:34:43.159
it's slow, and they're just like
just like handing over the ship. It's

2987
03:34:43.239 --> 03:34:50.120
like turgid links. Look at that
is waly metal. You want to check

2988
03:34:50.159 --> 03:34:56.079
out this Normandy music swells and they're
yeah, I mean they throw everything behind

2989
03:34:56.239 --> 03:35:03.680
that moment they they the touching sequence. No, I mean I think a

2990
03:35:03.760 --> 03:35:07.760
different thing happens for femish. I
think it's more like there's it comes in

2991
03:35:07.959 --> 03:35:11.840
with flowers and chocolate and then it
tells you that it loves you, and

2992
03:35:13.639 --> 03:35:18.600
then yeah it's but I mean they
fintishize that ship to a great degree in

2993
03:35:18.760 --> 03:35:22.399
in all of those games, and
so you spend all the time there.

2994
03:35:22.799 --> 03:35:24.399
What you're you're kind of like,
you're gonna say something, what's up?

2995
03:35:24.479 --> 03:35:37.479
Carry This is news to me?
Okay, I've it was sexy. Yeah,

2996
03:35:37.559 --> 03:35:41.360
and you know it comes down the
entry. You know, they open

2997
03:35:41.479 --> 03:35:45.200
up so Shepherd can can run and
jump on and Ashley's they're covering it and

2998
03:35:45.239 --> 03:35:48.360
stuff, and she's looking good and
listens like yeah, so it's cool man

2999
03:35:48.520 --> 03:35:52.840
like the Leaving Earth, and you
know, Anderson stays behind. He's like,

3000
03:35:52.959 --> 03:35:56.159
you know, these people need a
leader. He's actually in your squad

3001
03:35:56.239 --> 03:35:58.520
for a little bit. Is his
head is at the bottom of the screen.

3002
03:35:58.600 --> 03:36:05.040
You're like, yeah, David,
Yeah, finally finally we pay at

3003
03:36:05.079 --> 03:36:09.120
the end of like they had a
completely diffin Yeah, so I maybe a

3004
03:36:09.200 --> 03:36:18.840
little same thing, same thy those
are not mutually exclusive at all, Yeah,

3005
03:36:18.399 --> 03:36:22.239
but you actually got to play it. Yeah. So then so then

3006
03:36:22.280 --> 03:36:24.840
after that, so you know,
they got a room that seats maybe like

3007
03:36:26.000 --> 03:36:28.079
twelve or something like that, but
they're packing about like maybe twenty people in

3008
03:36:28.159 --> 03:36:31.760
there or something on the floor.
I was standing up in the back for

3009
03:36:31.840 --> 03:36:35.639
mine. Yeah, kind of cram
between this guys really close to Casey had.

3010
03:36:35.680 --> 03:36:39.559
It made me realize, like every
time I smell really bad bo I

3011
03:36:39.639 --> 03:36:43.840
get really worried. They're like,
man, do I like you know,

3012
03:36:43.840 --> 03:36:46.799
because you don't smell yourself right,
And I'm like do I do? I

3013
03:36:46.959 --> 03:36:48.639
stay? Okay, so good,
thank you? Did you get did you

3014
03:36:48.680 --> 03:36:52.399
get voice play play with voice?
No? No, they weren't doing that.

3015
03:36:52.000 --> 03:36:54.760
I got to do that. Really, it's pretty rad. Okay.

3016
03:36:56.319 --> 03:36:58.719
They had a backstage for the press
conference in the SME Street was in that

3017
03:37:00.479 --> 03:37:05.000
and it seems cool. I mean
everything's optional, right, so I'll probably

3018
03:37:05.040 --> 03:37:09.000
still play the game normally, but
then I'll use it for like the conversation

3019
03:37:09.120 --> 03:37:13.479
system and I mean, you just
read the phrase, and I just want

3020
03:37:13.520 --> 03:37:15.799
to be able to like walk into
a spot on the ship or you know,

3021
03:37:16.040 --> 03:37:18.239
on on one of the planets or
something, and just walk up and

3022
03:37:18.440 --> 03:37:24.399
Rex and haven't just go Shepherd.
That's if that if that's what if that's

3023
03:37:24.440 --> 03:37:26.280
what they do, And if I
can just sit there and just say Rex

3024
03:37:26.639 --> 03:37:31.040
over it over again and just do
that, then your playtime will double.

3025
03:37:31.319 --> 03:37:35.600
Yeah, you just sit there for
entire day. Just rex. I think

3026
03:37:35.600 --> 03:37:39.799
we've got a feature set for Bastion
too, right. Narrator, Yes,

3027
03:37:39.840 --> 03:37:43.280
no, it's you actually just play
the role of the narrator and the game

3028
03:37:43.319 --> 03:37:52.840
plays out and you have to say, what's happening? I'm sorry. So

3029
03:37:52.000 --> 03:37:54.639
after after seeing that, then I
went and played it this It was a

3030
03:37:54.719 --> 03:38:00.319
really uh weird So they're not letting
a lot of people play it the show.

3031
03:38:00.360 --> 03:38:03.319
It's kind of like a Judge's va
whatever then you want to call it,

3032
03:38:05.639 --> 03:38:09.440
so I plitted it out whatever.
You know. They made some changes

3033
03:38:09.479 --> 03:38:13.200
to the controls to accommodate the additional
abilities that Shepherd has. So you know,

3034
03:38:13.239 --> 03:38:16.239
you tap the left bumper to to
throw grenades, tap ripe up or

3035
03:38:16.280 --> 03:38:18.520
fur concussive shot, and if you
hold down the melee button that's how you

3036
03:38:18.600 --> 03:38:22.719
do those omniblade kills. But other
than that, you know, it plays

3037
03:38:22.760 --> 03:38:26.040
like mass effect. But it was
funny, like this room like that.

3038
03:38:26.200 --> 03:38:31.120
I kind of basically went into what's
basically mass to a closet in the EA

3039
03:38:31.239 --> 03:38:35.319
booth and there's a dude in there
with a Kiosk three sixty and it's like

3040
03:38:35.760 --> 03:38:39.520
it's almost attached to the theater.
So when I was in there, it's

3041
03:38:39.520 --> 03:38:41.319
like, we have to be really
quiet in here because if we talk,

3042
03:38:41.360 --> 03:38:43.879
they'll be able to hear us in
here, because it's like the back wall

3043
03:38:43.920 --> 03:38:46.000
the theater where I was standing basic
on the other side of that is where

3044
03:38:46.040 --> 03:38:50.639
this this little closet is, And
we had like headsets or whatever and headphones

3045
03:38:50.639 --> 03:38:52.520
so we could talk to each other
while we were playing it. I just

3046
03:38:52.600 --> 03:38:56.639
kind of quickly played through some of
the same gameplay that they've been showing,

3047
03:38:56.719 --> 03:38:58.920
you know, the where you're you
know, stealth killing dudes and and all

3048
03:39:00.079 --> 03:39:05.399
that stuff from the Silarian homeworld,
but it's all all combat scenario stuff or

3049
03:39:05.639 --> 03:39:07.840
in the gameplay thing. Yeah,
I mean we're talking like this was eight

3050
03:39:07.920 --> 03:39:11.639
minutes or something like that. It
wasn't. It was not a long thing.

3051
03:39:11.760 --> 03:39:13.639
And it's literally one of those things
like, well, to be considered

3052
03:39:13.680 --> 03:39:16.479
for a game of the show by
the game's critics Awards, it has to

3053
03:39:16.520 --> 03:39:20.760
be playable. So but this was
this was playable as a video game,

3054
03:39:20.840 --> 03:39:24.360
Like when I played BioShock Infinite,
it was to hold this controller for a

3055
03:39:24.399 --> 03:39:28.680
minute and look around this room and
okay, you can you see that it

3056
03:39:28.799 --> 03:39:33.120
is interactive played. It qualifies.
So this is already a game obviously,

3057
03:39:33.360 --> 03:39:39.079
which you know, I thank god. Yeah, yeah, be a little

3058
03:39:39.079 --> 03:39:41.840
worried if at this point, well
there was one and you know, obviously

3059
03:39:41.920 --> 03:39:43.399
this doesn't reflect on the final quality
the game, and it just speaks to

3060
03:39:43.520 --> 03:39:46.639
how they were building that demo.
There's one guy who is like AI is

3061
03:39:46.639 --> 03:39:50.479
completely turned off because it's the part
in the demo where they want to show

3062
03:39:50.479 --> 03:39:54.200
you this the reach over stealth kills. So like when you're taking cover and

3063
03:39:54.200 --> 03:39:56.159
there's a guy standing out there side
of cover, you can drag him over

3064
03:39:56.200 --> 03:39:58.399
and kill them. So like that
guy is just dead, like standing there,

3065
03:39:58.440 --> 03:40:01.399
does not move. You can walk
up do whatever to them, but

3066
03:40:01.600 --> 03:40:07.200
you know you have you have to
whatever the monster thing, Yeah exactly if

3067
03:40:07.239 --> 03:40:11.360
I didn't do that to them,
and yeah, yeah, so you know

3068
03:40:11.559 --> 03:40:13.120
it it plays, it plays like
mass effect. But you know, the

3069
03:40:13.399 --> 03:40:18.680
stuff that that they're showing in that
theater definitely backs up a lot of the

3070
03:40:18.799 --> 03:40:22.079
things that they've been saying about the
game and then saying about kind of the

3071
03:40:22.200 --> 03:40:26.639
the RPG elements and and how that
game is going to actually go, which

3072
03:40:28.680 --> 03:40:31.680
definitely, you know, like coming
out of EA press conference and seeing that

3073
03:40:31.719 --> 03:40:33.440
sequence, it's like, Wow,
this is a really cool like action sequence.

3074
03:40:33.479 --> 03:40:37.399
And obviously the action is getting better, like the cover mechanics have improved,

3075
03:40:37.079 --> 03:40:41.879
but that's not necessarily the main thing
I'm looking for at a mass effect.

3076
03:40:41.000 --> 03:40:45.559
So no, no renegade opportunities.
No, that stuff interrupts will return.

3077
03:40:45.840 --> 03:40:48.520
They did say so the that that
will still happen. I think that,

3078
03:40:48.760 --> 03:40:52.159
you know, what what they needed
to do. And it's you know,

3079
03:40:52.440 --> 03:40:54.959
it's a weird thing to even like
criticize, but I think in like

3080
03:40:56.159 --> 03:40:58.479
a trailer or something like they some
some of the stuff they put out for

3081
03:40:58.520 --> 03:41:01.719
that game, where it's just been
all action, they should have just cut

3082
03:41:01.799 --> 03:41:05.440
it more like a movie trailer and
then intercut the action with Shepherd kissing a

3083
03:41:05.520 --> 03:41:11.959
lady or you know, like like
like so much, you know, like

3084
03:41:11.239 --> 03:41:16.840
just some kind of some kind of
drama in there, incut with like the

3085
03:41:16.959 --> 03:41:22.719
fucking of ship up. Yeah,
this cut away from the heavy rock guitars

3086
03:41:22.760 --> 03:41:24.920
for a little bit. Yeah,
give you some some dramatic. Yeah,

3087
03:41:24.920 --> 03:41:30.239
I think, you know, like
the dramatic like that was the whole Oh

3088
03:41:30.399 --> 03:41:33.760
come on, it was the ship
flying, not what what are he's talking

3089
03:41:33.760 --> 03:41:39.079
about? The trailer stuff like more
to the public, like because all like

3090
03:41:39.840 --> 03:41:43.879
between two press conferences they've shown like
you know, connect support stuff and an

3091
03:41:43.959 --> 03:41:48.479
on rail's shooter sequence, Like that's
those those that's not fucking mass effect three,

3092
03:41:48.760 --> 03:41:52.159
but that is kind of you know
what, it's an on rail shooter

3093
03:41:52.239 --> 03:41:56.559
sequence that came literally after you know, every single thing I've seen for Modern

3094
03:41:56.600 --> 03:42:01.159
Warfare three has been rail shooter sequences, three of them, three different sequences

3095
03:42:01.200 --> 03:42:03.399
throughout the game. So you get
to that point where we're like, what

3096
03:42:03.639 --> 03:42:09.040
why are like now Fable is a
rail shooter. All games are rail shooters

3097
03:42:09.079 --> 03:42:11.959
and or quick time events. That's
all we have left anymore, Like quick

3098
03:42:11.959 --> 03:42:16.559
time events are now in Final Fantasy
thirteen two. Uh like need for speed.

3099
03:42:16.719 --> 03:42:18.000
The thing they thought to add was
what if we put in some quick

3100
03:42:18.040 --> 03:42:24.639
time events in between the driving?
So it's scary sometimes tomb Raider, although

3101
03:42:24.639 --> 03:42:26.360
Passion Rider games have had this as
well. So sure whatever, sure,

3102
03:42:26.920 --> 03:42:31.559
uh so so feeling the mass efectory
from from what you saw you played,

3103
03:42:31.719 --> 03:42:37.520
Yet when saw the Kingdoms of Omalo
reckoning demo, which was different stuff than

3104
03:42:37.920 --> 03:42:43.200
what I saw a couple of weeks
ago, I think that game is looking

3105
03:42:43.239 --> 03:42:48.639
really cool. I hope it comes
together, it's pretty neat. And then

3106
03:42:48.719 --> 03:42:50.319
I'm just trying to think, like
through the day in order. Uh.

3107
03:42:50.440 --> 03:42:54.639
And then I met coal Train today. Yeah, that was really exciting,

3108
03:42:56.360 --> 03:43:05.159
like the actor. Yeah, yeah, a thrash ball star like. I

3109
03:43:05.239 --> 03:43:07.879
walked up to him and I was
like, you're my favorite. He's like,

3110
03:43:09.079 --> 03:43:15.120
damn, I'm your favorite. I
had met him like Gears of Gears

3111
03:43:15.120 --> 03:43:16.719
of War two at E three.
He was at the party for that,

3112
03:43:16.920 --> 03:43:20.520
and I thought you were gonna say
I met him years of war ago?

3113
03:43:22.840 --> 03:43:26.600
What is going on that? I
wish I would have had. God,

3114
03:43:26.639 --> 03:43:28.280
that would have been a good one. I didn't come up with that.

3115
03:43:28.319 --> 03:43:30.920
I thought that he had come up
with that. That's that. Don't don't

3116
03:43:30.920 --> 03:43:33.200
pin that on me. No you
did, But you did come up with

3117
03:43:33.319 --> 03:43:37.479
that. Pin that on I'll take
it. I'll take it gladly, happily

3118
03:43:37.840 --> 03:43:41.559
hanging right there. Someone take it. It's low hanging fruit for sure.

3119
03:43:41.840 --> 03:43:46.520
But yeah, No, he is
a very effusive character in real life.

3120
03:43:46.840 --> 03:43:52.799
Excellent, what's your king? War
needs for speed? I also I went

3121
03:43:52.840 --> 03:43:58.520
and saw and we talked about that
earlier when when Genova was here just about

3122
03:43:58.520 --> 03:44:03.040
the right, didn't we Yeah?
Yes, the cut scenes that they need

3123
03:44:03.120 --> 03:44:09.040
to they need to do the this
is now like letterboxed, so you know

3124
03:44:09.200 --> 03:44:11.159
that you were no longer driving the
car. Yeah, that's so. Then

3125
03:44:11.159 --> 03:44:16.159
I'm not saying they're going that's that's
it seems like an easy, like an

3126
03:44:16.200 --> 03:44:18.680
easy beat. I bet that they
will. I bet they'll do exactly that.

3127
03:44:18.959 --> 03:44:22.239
Yeah, you know, or or
you know, they need some kind

3128
03:44:22.280 --> 03:44:26.760
of indicator to say like that that
that that mechanic that that trick has literally

3129
03:44:26.840 --> 03:44:30.360
been used in past Black Box need
for speed games when it's like all right,

3130
03:44:30.399 --> 03:44:33.040
we're going into cut scene now at
the end of this chase, and

3131
03:44:33.479 --> 03:44:37.879
right and there you go. Uh
Warner Brothers, Yeah, we went to

3132
03:44:37.920 --> 03:44:41.200
Warner Brothers. Saw the Batman demo. I played Batman a little while ago,

3133
03:44:43.079 --> 03:44:48.799
and the troversial stuff like is really
cool, like basically playing like that

3134
03:44:48.920 --> 03:44:52.799
Super Mario World Cape, but with
Batman and his cape of you know,

3135
03:44:52.000 --> 03:44:54.920
you go into a dive and pull
out of it to kind of glide around

3136
03:44:54.920 --> 03:45:00.159
the city. And uh, you
know, I wonder if it's at some

3137
03:45:00.239 --> 03:45:03.159
point, like Batman, if that
game starts to get too complicated, because

3138
03:45:03.200 --> 03:45:05.680
like Batman could already do a whole
lot of stuff, and now they're like

3139
03:45:05.920 --> 03:45:11.959
loading like double takedowns where you double
tapped the button and uh and a lot

3140
03:45:13.000 --> 03:45:15.840
of other stuff like I wonder if
it will get too complicated for that controller

3141
03:45:15.959 --> 03:45:22.319
for some people, for for like
the soft minded Hey Greg, ye,

3142
03:45:22.959 --> 03:45:26.719
no, Greg? Yeah two?
Greg's right next time, I'm sorry,

3143
03:45:26.840 --> 03:45:33.799
that's okay. Uh. So Arkhama
City looking good. Yeah, And they

3144
03:45:33.879 --> 03:45:39.719
have another theater demo where they revealed
the penguin, who looks pretty terrifying.

3145
03:45:39.920 --> 03:45:46.440
Yeah is what he is. I
mean, you always do something kind of

3146
03:45:46.479 --> 03:45:48.719
messed up from the monocle looks all
crazy. I don't know. I don't

3147
03:45:48.719 --> 03:45:52.360
know if it's an implant or like
Joey looked at it and said, like,

3148
03:45:52.399 --> 03:45:56.120
do you have a like a bottom
of a coke bottle? Like Snucket

3149
03:45:56.200 --> 03:45:58.959
his monocle for a monocle, And
it's a weird looking monocle. I don't

3150
03:46:00.079 --> 03:46:03.799
know. That seems in line with
kind of the crazy ass character designs they

3151
03:46:03.840 --> 03:46:07.399
did first. And they made him
like a little bit like I mean,

3152
03:46:07.440 --> 03:46:11.840
he's British and like he has a
slightly like almost Cockney kind of accent.

3153
03:46:11.040 --> 03:46:16.520
He didn't really go wow, wow, it's definitely not but it's definitely not

3154
03:46:16.600 --> 03:46:20.000
Burgess Meredith. Well, yeah,
yeah, and they showed they showed some

3155
03:46:20.040 --> 03:46:24.479
of the some of the some of
the Catwoman gameplay, which you know,

3156
03:46:24.639 --> 03:46:28.639
she has basically like different stealth mechanics
than Batman does. She clings the ceilings

3157
03:46:28.680 --> 03:46:31.920
and crawl around and drop down for
stealth kills, and she's got a whip.

3158
03:46:31.000 --> 03:46:35.239
She got a whip that she used
to swing around the city with a

3159
03:46:35.280 --> 03:46:39.680
whip. So you got a time
that stuff and he'll say good or too

3160
03:46:39.799 --> 03:46:41.959
late. So it's kind of kind
of ris me, kind of just a

3161
03:46:43.079 --> 03:46:46.280
timing base to so like, how
different did you get to play? No,

3162
03:46:46.319 --> 03:46:48.440
I didn't get to play the cat
Woman stuff. That's just part of

3163
03:46:48.479 --> 03:46:54.159
their theater demo. Actually just reminded
me of that whole of the Wee You.

3164
03:46:54.520 --> 03:46:56.600
I kept looking at it, kept
going look at the TV, and

3165
03:46:56.639 --> 03:46:58.799
I'd be like, oh god,
it kept like yelling at me when you

3166
03:46:58.879 --> 03:47:01.879
look at the thing and go look
at the t I was. I was.

3167
03:47:01.159 --> 03:47:07.559
So I played that same the Pirates
the Shield pose a demo and and

3168
03:47:07.639 --> 03:47:09.959
that thing is just can we agree
that is it? That is a Rhythm

3169
03:47:11.040 --> 03:47:15.719
Heaven mini game. Yeah, absolutely, like like the look of it,

3170
03:47:15.920 --> 03:47:20.680
the style of the actual gameplay absolutely, but I don't know like how I

3171
03:47:20.799 --> 03:47:24.879
needed to move and use that things, like you know, there's someone there

3172
03:47:24.879 --> 03:47:28.120
explaining it to you constantly, but
I didn't have like like Peter, I'm

3173
03:47:28.120 --> 03:47:31.159
like, okay, yeah, I
figured it like this is this seems pretty

3174
03:47:31.200 --> 03:47:33.719
intuitive. I'm getting this, but
then like like you know, put it

3175
03:47:33.760 --> 03:47:37.760
down and watch the person behind me
just struggling constantly with like like moving it

3176
03:47:37.879 --> 03:47:41.559
down and then like looking down at
it, and then it's yeah, it

3177
03:47:41.639 --> 03:47:43.440
is shouting like no, look at
the team like oh wait, yeah.

3178
03:47:43.680 --> 03:47:46.239
I kind of figured out like no, I should just my eyeline should stay

3179
03:47:46.280 --> 03:47:50.079
up and then I'll move the thing
into my eyeline. It was me,

3180
03:47:50.440 --> 03:47:54.040
I think. Also also the guy
had zero rhythm too, so there was

3181
03:47:54.280 --> 03:47:58.760
a lot of Unfortunately there's no way
to just like right click on stuff and

3182
03:47:58.799 --> 03:48:05.520
fight it automatically on that system.
So yeah, oh's because it's no it's

3183
03:48:05.520 --> 03:48:07.079
no multi touch, so you can't
know. Oh that's true. No,

3184
03:48:07.280 --> 03:48:11.879
no right clicking a Fels from from
Warner Brothers. I mean we've got two

3185
03:48:11.399 --> 03:48:20.920
warder. We skipped a lot of
the craft that was chaff Man. Yeah

3186
03:48:20.040 --> 03:48:24.799
no, yeah, we uh.
We spoke with Ed Boone really quickly.

3187
03:48:24.239 --> 03:48:26.280
I haven't seen him with the show
yet. It seems like he's doing really

3188
03:48:26.319 --> 03:48:28.879
well. He's getting around and playing
games now that they don't you know,

3189
03:48:30.200 --> 03:48:31.879
now that the game's out, like
we so we interviewed him about what he

3190
03:48:31.920 --> 03:48:37.200
thinks about Street Fighter Cross Tech and
I don't want to spoil it. It's

3191
03:48:37.200 --> 03:48:39.079
really cool. I wouldn't played it
with Seth and it's like, yeah,

3192
03:48:39.159 --> 03:48:41.840
it's yeah, but I won't spoil
the rest of the interview. Yeah,

3193
03:48:41.920 --> 03:48:46.600
yeah, let's give people a reason
to watch that video. Right, are

3194
03:48:46.840 --> 03:48:50.399
nineteen Ed Boone in interview? Yeah? I think we were starting to do

3195
03:48:50.479 --> 03:48:52.440
the numbers, and I think he
might. He might be the person that

3196
03:48:52.479 --> 03:48:56.959
we have most interviewed the most.
I wouldn't be surprised over time is gonna

3197
03:48:56.959 --> 03:49:01.120
get Well, you know what Consultan, I bet it's John Drake. Yeah,

3198
03:49:01.600 --> 03:49:05.840
yeah, it might be. It
might be because literally every time there

3199
03:49:05.959 --> 03:49:09.200
was a game, it's like,
yeah, we're gonna go and interview John

3200
03:49:09.319 --> 03:49:11.559
Drake. Oh no, no,
no, no, I'm not saying like

3201
03:49:11.639 --> 03:49:16.040
the number of times we've talked about
the last time we interviewed Ed Boone,

3202
03:49:16.680 --> 03:49:20.680
he was actually just interviewing them Jeff
and Brad while they were playing Mortal Kombat.

3203
03:49:20.760 --> 03:49:26.239
It just it. It devolved rapidly. But so they're showing off Scarlett

3204
03:49:26.280 --> 03:49:30.200
on the floor, Yeah, which
is sounds like it's coming momentarily. Yeah,

3205
03:49:30.360 --> 03:49:33.120
first deal see character days away from
the sound of it, along with

3206
03:49:33.159 --> 03:49:37.159
a patch that'll fix some of the
stuff that's been going on in that game

3207
03:49:37.879 --> 03:49:41.000
with the online and making some balance
changes that they they I guess they can't

3208
03:49:41.000 --> 03:49:45.159
necessarily fix in their hot fixes,
like they can actually change the balance on

3209
03:49:45.200 --> 03:49:50.399
the game without pushing a full patch, but there's some stuff that they actually

3210
03:49:50.440 --> 03:49:52.799
need to patch to fix, so
they they're the patch is done on PS

3211
03:49:52.879 --> 03:49:56.200
three from the sounds of it,
three sixties is waiting clear and they'll they'll

3212
03:49:56.200 --> 03:50:01.559
push them out simultaneously pretty soon here
I guess along with Scarlett or right around

3213
03:50:01.600 --> 03:50:03.239
the time of Scarlett, but he
said ken she is after that, after

3214
03:50:03.280 --> 03:50:07.639
Scarlett, and they're looking to the
four characters planned and they're looking to kind

3215
03:50:07.639 --> 03:50:11.520
of hit him one every two weeks
if they can do it. So that's

3216
03:50:11.680 --> 03:50:16.440
that's pretty cool to hear. Have
they talked anything about price point for for

3217
03:50:16.600 --> 03:50:18.559
the characters, No, they have
not. The costume pack is out that

3218
03:50:18.639 --> 03:50:26.680
came out Tuesday, so classic Scorpion
don't need Alex anymore. Did you check

3219
03:50:26.719 --> 03:50:28.399
in with Hector? Did you get
to see him? Yeah, talked to

3220
03:50:28.399 --> 03:50:33.239
Hector real briefly. He reminded me
that they which I didn't notice that the

3221
03:50:33.600 --> 03:50:39.680
Sony press conference, but they basically
confirmed MK for Vita. That thing so

3222
03:50:39.799 --> 03:50:43.799
awesome. So they are they are
looking into doing that, you know,

3223
03:50:43.959 --> 03:50:46.879
like they're doing some DLC stuff.
But you know, we're not too far

3224
03:50:46.959 --> 03:50:50.000
off from those dudes having to start
thinking about kind of you know, their

3225
03:50:50.120 --> 03:50:52.920
their next move. I think that
they have already started thinking about it.

3226
03:50:54.000 --> 03:50:56.920
I saw, you know, some
some Twitter messages about design docs and that

3227
03:50:56.000 --> 03:51:00.120
sort of stuff, so clearly they
you know, they got ideas. So

3228
03:51:00.360 --> 03:51:05.200
we'll see what's next from them.
I my guests would be a Mortal Kombat

3229
03:51:05.280 --> 03:51:09.559
themed non fighting game, I think
if I had to guess pattern, right,

3230
03:51:09.840 --> 03:51:13.840
Yeah, that's the pattern. But
they typically don't develop the non fighting

3231
03:51:13.879 --> 03:51:16.280
games themselves, so I wonder if
this would be the case where they would

3232
03:51:18.479 --> 03:51:20.319
get on that, you know,
maybe maybe like Resurrect Fire and Ice,

3233
03:51:20.360 --> 03:51:26.639
which was going to be the Scorpions
subzero game, like Shallon Monks basically Special

3234
03:51:26.680 --> 03:51:31.719
Forces reboot. Yeah, finally that
that bring back the Jack's game. No

3235
03:51:33.000 --> 03:51:37.239
you see anything else that at Warner
there or No, that was that was

3236
03:51:37.280 --> 03:51:39.280
mostly what we stuck to. You
know, some of that stuff is stuff

3237
03:51:39.280 --> 03:51:41.239
that I'd seen previously, like a
Gotham City imposters, which the first person

3238
03:51:41.319 --> 03:51:45.040
shooter set in the Batman universe,
but you're playing as a bunch of fake

3239
03:51:45.159 --> 03:51:48.440
Batman's and jokers. I love.
So I just kind of ran through the

3240
03:51:48.520 --> 03:51:50.920
booth and saw that stuff brief briefly
and mostly just focusing on all the like

3241
03:51:52.079 --> 03:51:54.520
character art and stuff that they have
around that section. I love the look

3242
03:51:54.600 --> 03:51:58.120
of all of their fake Batman's and
jokers. Yeah, so I want to

3243
03:51:58.120 --> 03:52:01.440
see the trailer they put and see
if it's the trailer they showed us,

3244
03:52:01.479 --> 03:52:05.399
because it was a very cartoonish,
stylized look that is not reflected in the

3245
03:52:05.440 --> 03:52:09.239
game at all, And there was
a trailer on the show floor that looked

3246
03:52:09.280 --> 03:52:13.600
more like in game footage, not
reflective at all, Like it's it looks

3247
03:52:13.639 --> 03:52:18.000
like a shooter, doesn't doesn't look
that great. Yeah, it's you know,

3248
03:52:18.079 --> 03:52:20.079
it's first person shooter with some interesting
gear that kind of helps you set

3249
03:52:20.120 --> 03:52:26.159
it apart. You know, they're
Basically they've put things in the level that

3250
03:52:26.200 --> 03:52:28.360
if you have the right gear you
can utilize like there are ramps and if

3251
03:52:28.399 --> 03:52:33.440
you are equipped with roller skates,
the minute you touch a ramp us take

3252
03:52:33.719 --> 03:52:35.159
they should have one clip where like
you could like have a grappling Yeah,

3253
03:52:35.479 --> 03:52:39.680
the grapple gun level, as far
as I'm concerned, is is the best

3254
03:52:39.719 --> 03:52:41.760
gadget from from the gadgets that they
have shown so far, because you can

3255
03:52:41.760 --> 03:52:45.440
just hook up to stuff, get
on rooftops and shoot dudes. Done.

3256
03:52:46.719 --> 03:52:50.120
But yeah, it's it's a it's
a cool idea. You know that they're

3257
03:52:50.120 --> 03:52:58.600
gonna have that same kind of like
persistence of unlocking different gear options and customization

3258
03:52:58.680 --> 03:53:01.639
stuff as you go. Yeah,
it's a downloadle shooter. And you know,

3259
03:53:01.719 --> 03:53:05.120
some of those have been kind of
interesting, but it seems like none

3260
03:53:05.120 --> 03:53:09.239
of them have really, like the
competitive shooters have really found a long term

3261
03:53:09.280 --> 03:53:13.079
audience that I can think of.
So is he when I'm still playing Breach?

3262
03:53:15.200 --> 03:53:16.799
Like, no, right, why
did I combat today? Yeah?

3263
03:53:16.840 --> 03:53:20.159
Yeah? Yeah right? But that's
I mean, I'm specifically a competitive shooter,

3264
03:53:20.319 --> 03:53:24.920
like like trying to trying to say
like, hey, let's not spend

3265
03:53:24.959 --> 03:53:28.399
the millions of dollars to make a
Call of Duty quality campaign and just try

3266
03:53:28.440 --> 03:53:31.639
and focus on like that half of
that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

3267
03:53:31.120 --> 03:53:35.680
Monday Night Combat was like a different
thing. Yeah, anything else you

3268
03:53:35.680 --> 03:53:41.879
saw today, Jeff, that's pretty
much the scheduled run for the Yeah,

3269
03:53:43.079 --> 03:53:48.000
that's that's you know, that's the
big stuff for sure. All right,

3270
03:53:48.399 --> 03:53:52.159
Alex varn I turned my gaze to
you, Thank God, because I'm about

3271
03:53:52.159 --> 03:53:54.319
to fall asleep. What did you
see today, Alex? Why did you

3272
03:53:54.360 --> 03:53:56.280
see today? That saw some games? What games? Did you say?

3273
03:53:56.799 --> 03:54:01.520
Get him in the face to him
stuff today? I got my hand don't

3274
03:54:03.520 --> 03:54:07.799
no, actually that can't didn't really
help anything at all. I actually got

3275
03:54:07.879 --> 03:54:11.840
my hands finally on both the WEU
and Vita hardware for the first time.

3276
03:54:11.959 --> 03:54:15.479
So that's right. Yeah, we
went to Sony and saw Vita stuff.

3277
03:54:15.719 --> 03:54:18.479
Well here I'll tackle that. Okay, we went to the Sony and saw

3278
03:54:18.559 --> 03:54:24.559
Vita stuff. Uh, moving on, handled I saw sound Shapes for the

3279
03:54:24.600 --> 03:54:28.200
first time after everyone's been raving about
that game. That game is really cool.

3280
03:54:28.719 --> 03:54:33.200
I really just doesn't need to be
on Vita. Yeah, exactly that

3281
03:54:33.760 --> 03:54:41.280
and I phone yeah or not,
not to take anything away, but is

3282
03:54:41.319 --> 03:54:43.280
that gonna be is that gonna be
like the Luminez or something for the system

3283
03:54:43.319 --> 03:54:46.000
where it's like seem it's like,
yeah, you can play this this game

3284
03:54:46.079 --> 03:54:52.120
literally on anything, but it's on
the system. So this level, the

3285
03:54:52.280 --> 03:54:56.280
Level Creator, it really benefits from
the touch screen. It really really does.

3286
03:54:56.719 --> 03:54:58.079
And they showed a little bit of
that, like some of the stretching

3287
03:54:58.120 --> 03:55:01.079
you do with like the back touching, like the way you stretching with the

3288
03:55:01.120 --> 03:55:05.680
backtouching, Jesus Christ, the way
the way you move stuff around in the

3289
03:55:05.760 --> 03:55:09.239
level, like it's it's very actually
pretty intuitive in neat and the levels I

3290
03:55:09.280 --> 03:55:11.719
saw it look fucking phenomenal. So
I'm really looking forward to that game,

3291
03:55:13.200 --> 03:55:16.440
like just even feeling like holding the
veto for the first time like that,

3292
03:55:16.079 --> 03:55:20.159
I get it. I get now
why that system like has some appeal,

3293
03:55:20.280 --> 03:55:22.120
Like it feels really good. I'm
the one thing I want to say,

3294
03:55:22.120 --> 03:55:26.319
though, I played that, what
is it Little Deviance? Let's say a

3295
03:55:26.360 --> 03:55:31.479
Little Rascals. That's clearly not correct
there. They should make it more that

3296
03:55:31.559 --> 03:55:41.719
game play is Robert Blake Little Rascals
license developing that game is cool, but

3297
03:55:41.920 --> 03:55:46.680
I'm for serious any game that makes
you have to turn around three sixty like

3298
03:55:46.760 --> 03:55:50.600
when you're playing background in the camp
light with the camera stuff like a stuff.

3299
03:55:50.879 --> 03:55:54.600
Yeah, Little Deviance basically has face
raiders in it, yeah, but

3300
03:55:54.760 --> 03:55:58.959
without faces. If I'm playing on
a bus, yeah, I can't do

3301
03:55:58.440 --> 03:56:03.920
this, Like this is not going
to happen ever, So that that is

3302
03:56:03.079 --> 03:56:05.639
useless to me. Well, I
mean, Little Little Deviance is like a

3303
03:56:05.680 --> 03:56:09.120
basically a minigame collection and like thirty
different things. So it's it's just the

3304
03:56:09.200 --> 03:56:11.159
one that that does that. But
I know, I'm just saying, like

3305
03:56:11.280 --> 03:56:15.120
that is a thing that should just
die now. No one should ever do

3306
03:56:15.280 --> 03:56:18.040
that. I don't I don't know
the the I can't play it on a

3307
03:56:18.200 --> 03:56:20.719
bus like that qualifier. It doesn't
really what you do on a play either.

3308
03:56:20.799 --> 03:56:24.120
I can't do that sitting down anywhere, spin in your chair at the

3309
03:56:24.239 --> 03:56:28.120
office, or in your office at
your home. There's you, there's So

3310
03:56:28.280 --> 03:56:33.200
that one situation is the one thing
I do that never do either of those

3311
03:56:33.360 --> 03:56:35.559
things. I mean, I'm saying
it's one thing. It's the one thing.

3312
03:56:35.639 --> 03:56:39.120
I don't like the rest. I
like the technology. I liked a

3313
03:56:39.159 --> 03:56:41.280
lot of the touch stuff, you
know that game, Like a lot of

3314
03:56:41.319 --> 03:56:43.319
those games seem really fun, so
I thought it was cool I'm saying that

3315
03:56:43.559 --> 03:56:48.360
attitude wouldn't have gotten us bock tie. And where would we be without bock

3316
03:56:48.440 --> 03:56:52.440
tie? What if they shipped back
tie instead of a sun sensor? It

3317
03:56:52.520 --> 03:56:58.120
was just you know, something more
reasonable, like a sitting sensor, like

3318
03:56:58.840 --> 03:57:03.000
or you on. You can only
access this dungeon if you're on a bus.

3319
03:57:03.680 --> 03:57:07.559
Dude, I would play that game
spinning in an office chair. Access

3320
03:57:07.600 --> 03:57:13.159
the dirty thirty eight dungeon. Get
some epic fucking loops. You're stifling design

3321
03:57:13.239 --> 03:57:18.600
creativity. Yeah, I'm good at
that, but but buck tie. That

3322
03:57:18.760 --> 03:57:20.120
that was the deepest irony of all
Right, you need to be in the

3323
03:57:20.200 --> 03:57:26.159
sun, but you can't see this
screen in the sun because of the reflective

3324
03:57:26.200 --> 03:57:31.440
surface, Like the sun's too bright? Man, what come on out of

3325
03:57:31.680 --> 03:57:35.120
sun? I also saw that we
you Yeah, I saw that. I

3326
03:57:35.200 --> 03:57:39.920
played that for the first time.
I really like the hardware a lot.

3327
03:57:39.000 --> 03:57:43.120
I think it's it's really really cool. Unfortunately, the only demos I really

3328
03:57:43.120 --> 03:57:46.280
got to my hands on were the
damn Bird demo, which is not really

3329
03:57:46.319 --> 03:57:50.120
that interesting. But I did get
to play Chase Me, which is awesome.

3330
03:57:50.440 --> 03:57:54.399
That that that is super super fun. It is the best, I

3331
03:57:54.479 --> 03:58:00.000
think the most like best that's the
demonstration of the pac Man versus with Yeah.

3332
03:58:00.040 --> 03:58:05.879
Yeah, wait no, that's the
Metroidy's battle that's Battle Me. Okay,

3333
03:58:05.959 --> 03:58:09.000
Chase Me. Good, But I
played. I played Battle Me and

3334
03:58:09.719 --> 03:58:15.920
awkward controls playing well. It's just
it's it's kind of the like re learning

3335
03:58:16.079 --> 03:58:18.479
all of your first person shooter controls
kind of on the flight, and I'm

3336
03:58:18.479 --> 03:58:20.959
like, I'm like, I know
I could get good at this because when

3337
03:58:22.000 --> 03:58:24.520
you're playing on the ground, it's
easy to just whip ass on the guy

3338
03:58:24.600 --> 03:58:28.680
and the right of the stick.
It's like left right and then and then

3339
03:58:28.760 --> 03:58:35.600
say it's like up down, and
then you're then you're rusting using the like

3340
03:58:35.840 --> 03:58:37.879
something. You realize it was designed
by someone who either has never played or

3341
03:58:37.959 --> 03:58:45.440
hates ye take a shooter, And
I was like, oh, I mean,

3342
03:58:45.479 --> 03:58:46.280
it's just kind of one of those
like, yeah, you have to

3343
03:58:46.360 --> 03:58:50.399
retrain your brain and you can't do
that. Yeah, exactly, so Chase

3344
03:58:50.440 --> 03:58:52.879
me. But Chase Me is really
really cool. I actually end up playing

3345
03:58:52.920 --> 03:58:56.239
that with a Well and Norm from
Tested who are here for the day.

3346
03:58:58.040 --> 03:59:01.600
Uh now yeah gone, Now day
is over. That day we'll never see

3347
03:59:01.639 --> 03:59:05.159
them again. Actually, it isn't
that day anymore. At all until we

3348
03:59:05.239 --> 03:59:07.399
go to sleep. Yeah, but
yeah, I mean it's you know,

3349
03:59:07.440 --> 03:59:11.879
it's no sleeping, no day three
of E three. Awesome. Yeah,

3350
03:59:13.120 --> 03:59:16.600
think about it. We could be
at E three forever. Man. No,

3351
03:59:16.360 --> 03:59:20.639
in this house. There are four
players. We have this place for

3352
03:59:20.680 --> 03:59:26.760
a month. We could just keep
going. There's four players, four we

3353
03:59:26.959 --> 03:59:31.120
remote, and then one player is
the the chase e you know on the

3354
03:59:31.319 --> 03:59:35.399
on the on the big gass controller
and you know his stuff is only on

3355
03:59:35.520 --> 03:59:37.920
the screen on the on the controllers
on the New Nintendo Experience, on the

3356
03:59:37.959 --> 03:59:43.120
Newintendo Experience. Uh, And so
he runs around and you're trying to chase

3357
03:59:43.200 --> 03:59:43.959
him, but you can only kind
of see him in the periphery in the

3358
03:59:45.000 --> 03:59:46.120
back, and everyone has to like
shout out that I see him over there,

3359
03:59:46.200 --> 03:59:48.719
he's in green or he's over there
in the yellow zone. Go get

3360
03:59:48.799 --> 03:59:52.040
him. And it's literally find him
and then dive on him. It's just

3361
03:59:52.120 --> 03:59:56.399
like a dog piling mini game.
And it's kind of awesome. Do you

3362
03:59:56.520 --> 04:00:01.000
need three we use and three game
boysps and three game we need four remotes

3363
04:00:01.159 --> 04:00:05.559
and one one we you control.
We're just twelve linking. It's five players,

3364
04:00:05.680 --> 04:00:09.959
five five players. Yeah, I
guess it makes sense because you do

3365
04:00:11.079 --> 04:00:13.399
the full four food screen. Yeah. Also we caught Norm every time.

3366
04:00:15.920 --> 04:00:18.920
Nor, I'm not very good at
hiding. No, no, did you

3367
04:00:18.959 --> 04:00:20.440
ever get did you ever get to
play that part or were you know?

3368
04:00:20.719 --> 04:00:24.040
Norm was the one I only got
to do the we remote stuff, But

3369
04:00:24.120 --> 04:00:26.479
it was more fun to chase Normal. Even honest, I feel I should

3370
04:00:26.479 --> 04:00:31.239
come clean on my time with Chase
Me, where I caught Patrick pretty easily

3371
04:00:31.280 --> 04:00:33.680
twice. Yeah, it's because you
And also yeah you were dick. You

3372
04:00:33.840 --> 04:00:39.520
just sat so in Chase Me.
You like, eventually the the the person

3373
04:00:39.559 --> 04:00:43.479
who's running a running away being chased
is trying to be goaded into going to

3374
04:00:43.520 --> 04:00:46.680
the center to grab a star.
So Jeff just didn't move. He just

3375
04:00:46.840 --> 04:00:50.000
can't mind the star. I didn't
even process that, so like I'm not

3376
04:00:50.120 --> 04:00:52.879
I'm running from the other three and
I'm like going to get the star,

3377
04:00:54.040 --> 04:00:56.120
going to the star offs I'm like, I'm like, he's like, gotcha.

3378
04:00:58.680 --> 04:01:01.760
So You're right that I'm a dick, But that's not why I'm standing

3379
04:01:01.840 --> 04:01:03.479
right next to you, and I
got to look over your screen the whole

3380
04:01:03.520 --> 04:01:09.600
time. I saw people doing that
multiple times, Like Will kept looking at

3381
04:01:09.680 --> 04:01:13.639
Norm screen like I was trying to
do it to Scooter, but he was

3382
04:01:13.040 --> 04:01:16.319
tilted a little further away. So
I thought about it, like it would

3383
04:01:16.319 --> 04:01:20.239
it be really obvious if I backed
up here a little bit? Like yeah,

3384
04:01:20.360 --> 04:01:24.440
probably? Okay, nobody plays games
with future. Uh glad you to

3385
04:01:24.520 --> 04:01:30.120
make your dick after the fact.
Yeah, for several days. Was good

3386
04:01:30.159 --> 04:01:33.719
at that game, man, I
just I wasn't good. Everyone. I'm

3387
04:01:33.760 --> 04:01:37.159
the greatest Chase Me player on the
internet. It's awesome three DS stuff.

3388
04:01:37.479 --> 04:01:39.559
You know. I talked about Luigi's
Mansion a bunch already, so I'm not

3389
04:01:39.600 --> 04:01:43.959
going to rehash that too much.
Played Mario Kart, played a kidd Choris

3390
04:01:43.120 --> 04:01:48.680
multiplayer, which was not good at
all. I did see Uncharted though,

3391
04:01:48.799 --> 04:01:52.360
and I went to had that demo. So what was that demo about?

3392
04:01:52.360 --> 04:01:54.079
What was the airplane stuff? Right? Well, so okay, they started

3393
04:01:54.120 --> 04:01:58.479
with the boat level like again,
they went through that whole thing. Uh,

3394
04:01:58.959 --> 04:02:01.120
there's an interview that's going up on
the site pretty soon. I did

3395
04:02:01.200 --> 04:02:03.680
with a couple of the Naughty Dog
guys. But the one one of the

3396
04:02:03.719 --> 04:02:05.200
cool things that came out of that
was they explained that like in that boat

3397
04:02:05.319 --> 04:02:11.959
level, it's not like all pre
rendered like the water is moving time.

3398
04:02:11.479 --> 04:02:16.200
And then we talked about this and
then they can just turn that whole box

3399
04:02:16.280 --> 04:02:20.520
upside And then one of the programmers
from Naughty Dog here I knew Cowboy was

3400
04:02:20.600 --> 04:02:24.639
here speaking in depth about the the
technolo, the technology behind that, and

3401
04:02:24.680 --> 04:02:28.879
they were they were Everyone I talked
to was very excited to talk about that

3402
04:02:28.000 --> 04:02:33.239
too. It's apparently insanely complicated,
but it sounded like it absolutely and uh

3403
04:02:33.399 --> 04:02:35.760
but though so, then they moved
on to the cargo plane level, which

3404
04:02:35.799 --> 04:02:39.520
is like the thing you saw the
little stinger of in the trailer of like

3405
04:02:39.680 --> 04:02:41.920
Nathan and Drake hanging out of the
plane. Well the crates like about to

3406
04:02:41.959 --> 04:02:45.879
crash down on him. Yeah,
So there's a whole sequence leading up to

3407
04:02:45.959 --> 04:02:48.200
that where he's like, you know, trying to get onto this plane and

3408
04:02:48.479 --> 04:02:52.079
like he's like leaving across rooftops,
you know, killing dudes, like punching

3409
04:02:52.159 --> 04:02:56.000
dude, stabbing dudes whatever. Uh. And then you know Elina comes up

3410
04:02:56.040 --> 04:03:00.959
in a jeep and like she's like
trying to like drive him up to the

3411
04:03:01.120 --> 04:03:03.719
like the wheel well of the plane. Well, it's about to take off,

3412
04:03:03.840 --> 04:03:05.959
so you have to like kind of
lean in and like jump onto the

3413
04:03:07.360 --> 04:03:09.680
landing gear. So this is like
not a bunch of cut scenes like this

3414
04:03:09.799 --> 04:03:11.959
is all. This is all in
real time. This is all happening,

3415
04:03:11.000 --> 04:03:13.719
and the best part is that almost
none of it is quick time events.

3416
04:03:15.520 --> 04:03:18.639
Like it's like there are there are
parts where you need to move, and

3417
04:03:18.639 --> 04:03:20.680
there are parts that like, yes, there are some button press here and

3418
04:03:20.680 --> 04:03:22.959
there, but like when you're just
run across the rooftops, yeah, you

3419
04:03:22.120 --> 04:03:26.600
just like you hit the attack button
or the melee button or whatever and you

3420
04:03:26.719 --> 04:03:28.639
just jump on that motherfucker. There's
none of that like you know, press

3421
04:03:28.799 --> 04:03:33.479
X press triangle. I mean,
you're still just pressing a pressing triangle.

3422
04:03:33.520 --> 04:03:35.719
They're just not But with button hits, it's just like you know, you're

3423
04:03:35.799 --> 04:03:39.799
you're moving with like a real flow
to it. It's not just like all

3424
04:03:39.879 --> 04:03:41.959
it doesn't feel as like, you
know, kind of did machiney as it

3425
04:03:43.000 --> 04:03:46.559
would otherwise. And once you get
on the plane, it's actually what's really

3426
04:03:46.639 --> 04:03:50.479
cool is that eventually you get into
a combat sequence with like some big ass

3427
04:03:50.520 --> 04:03:54.399
soldier dude, and it's like very
Temple of Doom, where like Indiana Jones

3428
04:03:54.479 --> 04:03:58.399
is punching the big dude and he's
just not registering any of those hits,

3429
04:03:58.479 --> 04:04:01.680
So it's like pretty brutal fight.
And again no like button pop ups or

3430
04:04:01.680 --> 04:04:05.639
anything, and but there's no real
hud either, so they're just like decking

3431
04:04:05.680 --> 04:04:09.479
each other, like headbutting, you
know, running around and it just like

3432
04:04:09.680 --> 04:04:13.879
it all feels like it's just flowing
in combat, and it's one of the

3433
04:04:13.079 --> 04:04:18.719
coolest looking fights I've seen, like
in any game ever. And it eventually

3434
04:04:18.840 --> 04:04:22.479
morphs into that scene where like Cargo
is flying out of the plane and Drake

3435
04:04:22.600 --> 04:04:26.440
is about to you know, fly
the fuck out, and it's it was

3436
04:04:26.600 --> 04:04:33.239
really cool. I gotta say,
Yeah, it's that's that that level they

3437
04:04:33.280 --> 04:04:37.920
were only showing in the in the
scripted demo, so but they were playing

3438
04:04:37.959 --> 04:04:41.159
it and they were shown it as
cool, awesome. Yeah, and the

3439
04:04:41.239 --> 04:04:43.760
three D in that game, I'm
echoing your sentiment, the three D in

3440
04:04:43.799 --> 04:04:46.760
that game is actually legitimately awesome.
Yeah. Yeah, no again, and

3441
04:04:46.799 --> 04:04:48.959
Cowboys said the same thing of like
it that that's like what we saw when

3442
04:04:50.000 --> 04:04:52.479
they kind of did that stuff sold
us like internally we were kind of three

3443
04:04:52.559 --> 04:04:54.520
D I'm like, oh, wait, no, this this could be really

3444
04:04:54.559 --> 04:04:58.040
really cool. Yeah, when you
figure out like a way to do it,

3445
04:04:58.079 --> 04:05:00.319
so it's not just a bunch of
dumb three D moments, and like

3446
04:05:00.360 --> 04:05:03.319
you can actually add some death perception
to the levels and actually like find a

3447
04:05:03.360 --> 04:05:05.559
way to make it work. Like
it looks cool. Yeah, excellent.

3448
04:05:05.799 --> 04:05:09.319
Anything else that was that was the
bulk of it. You know. I

3449
04:05:09.360 --> 04:05:13.760
saw some some sony stuff here and
there. Saw a pixel junk side scroller,

3450
04:05:13.639 --> 04:05:16.200
which would be really cool. That
game looks really cool. Yeah.

3451
04:05:18.200 --> 04:05:24.680
Saw Papo and Yo the new PSN
game. It's it's a first time developer.

3452
04:05:24.840 --> 04:05:30.920
It's the game that is a loose
metaphor for addiction and abuse. One

3453
04:05:30.959 --> 04:05:33.440
of the frogs, the monster eats
the frogs, and he's addictating frogs.

3454
04:05:33.479 --> 04:05:37.959
He turns into a monster when he
a monster monster when he eats the frogs.

3455
04:05:37.680 --> 04:05:41.600
Have no idea what you're talking I
did this. This is all the

3456
04:05:41.680 --> 04:05:45.399
thing. Yeah, they started talking
about this a little bit before the show.

3457
04:05:45.639 --> 04:05:48.520
Yeah, so basically the developer straight
up came out and said, like,

3458
04:05:48.600 --> 04:05:52.600
this game is more or less a
metaphor for my childhood. Like it's

3459
04:05:52.680 --> 04:05:56.719
like about his it's mostly about his
like abusive alcoholic father, and like,

3460
04:05:56.280 --> 04:06:00.159
but you play as this kid who
has like these imaginary best friends, and

3461
04:06:00.239 --> 04:06:03.079
one of them is this like big
honking monster, a guy that one of

3462
04:06:03.079 --> 04:06:05.680
those types of guys that like his
licking frogs to see if they're psychedelic.

3463
04:06:05.760 --> 04:06:09.120
And that's wait, who which one? The developer? No, like the

3464
04:06:09.159 --> 04:06:11.959
guy's dad. I don't know.
I don't think so. I don't think

3465
04:06:11.000 --> 04:06:16.639
he was actually looking from those frogs. It was like he was. But

3466
04:06:18.000 --> 04:06:20.760
it's tough, man, Yeah,
you're your best friend is this big pink

3467
04:06:20.879 --> 04:06:24.000
like dinosaur monster friend and he's cool, but like he's also horribly adicted to

3468
04:06:24.000 --> 04:06:26.319
eating frogs and he turns into a
psychotic beast when he does that. So,

3469
04:06:26.920 --> 04:06:31.319
but it's also a puzzle platformer.
That's the best part. So I'm

3470
04:06:31.319 --> 04:06:33.799
gonna guess that it's But the way
it's actually presented the game is very kind

3471
04:06:33.840 --> 04:06:37.879
of lightened, cartoony, and it's
very he's straight up. Compared it to

3472
04:06:37.959 --> 04:06:41.079
Finding Nemo, it was like,
you know, straight if you think long

3473
04:06:41.159 --> 04:06:43.680
and hard about the store, like
the first like ten fifteen minutes of Finding

3474
04:06:43.719 --> 04:06:46.680
Nemo, that store is kind of
fucked up. Like he loses a parent,

3475
04:06:46.799 --> 04:06:48.520
he loses his family. Everything is
just messed up. Yeah, and

3476
04:06:48.879 --> 04:06:52.000
ever, just sit down, man
and think about for his ten and fifteen

3477
04:06:52.000 --> 04:06:58.680
minutes. Well I have now,
but it's it's all very whimsical. It's

3478
04:06:58.719 --> 04:07:01.520
robe you're like child like storybook ish, and you know, it's just that

3479
04:07:01.719 --> 04:07:07.680
he's using personal experience to kind of
create this game, and it's he described

3480
04:07:07.680 --> 04:07:09.159
it as a very therapeutic experience.
So but I mean, out of the

3481
04:07:09.200 --> 04:07:11.879
game looked really cool. Actually,
it's like I got some knee puzzle mechanics

3482
04:07:11.920 --> 04:07:16.399
to it. It seems very very
like it was fun what I played of

3483
04:07:16.440 --> 04:07:18.639
it. So it's as game.
It is a PSN game, it's part

3484
04:07:18.680 --> 04:07:24.479
of the pub thing like that stuff. So cool. Uh. There's also

3485
04:07:24.639 --> 04:07:28.159
so we went and played Vida stuff
and a lot of it was stuff that

3486
04:07:28.799 --> 04:07:31.479
somebody I had seen the first party
stuff but not the third party stuff.

3487
04:07:31.040 --> 04:07:35.600
Uh. And and some of that
was pretty interesting. Saw like blas Blue

3488
04:07:35.680 --> 04:07:37.879
running on it and two D looks
great on that screen. Did you play

3489
04:07:37.920 --> 04:07:43.920
the Ridge Razor interactive screen stated it's
ships hot. It's fucking because it wouldn't

3490
04:07:46.479 --> 04:07:50.719
if there wasn't something. Yeah,
And if you touched the back you can

3491
04:07:50.799 --> 04:07:58.680
slow down game. And then if
you pressed ellen R and makes the camera

3492
04:07:58.360 --> 04:08:01.000
angle change. The guy I was
like, hold it down, So I

3493
04:08:01.120 --> 04:08:07.319
held it down and it changed real
fast. But the thing about that is

3494
04:08:09.120 --> 04:08:16.200
the carman like all that get around
deporting all those tracks that you played a

3495
04:08:16.239 --> 04:08:22.040
million times. But until then,
check out those structures awesome. Because I

3496
04:08:22.079 --> 04:08:24.399
want to bound back up and saying
because I don't know if they this is

3497
04:08:24.399 --> 04:08:28.520
how they showed it at the Sony
with the Sony press conference. Like so

3498
04:08:28.799 --> 04:08:33.360
you go to the stations and like
it's really loud and like you know,

3499
04:08:33.440 --> 04:08:35.680
part of the things, like the
audio and all these games is is really

3500
04:08:35.760 --> 04:08:39.399
great and it kind of so then
you when you got the headphones on,

3501
04:08:39.559 --> 04:08:41.879
you can't hear the developer trying to
talk to you explain it to you.

3502
04:08:41.280 --> 04:08:45.280
So the Ridge Racer one, the
guy had microphones attached to it. So

3503
04:08:45.280 --> 04:08:48.239
it's just the same thing. So
it's like all these other games where the

3504
04:08:48.239 --> 04:08:52.000
sounds really important and like there's interactive
games like this one. It's Ridge Racer.

3505
04:08:52.040 --> 04:08:54.280
It's just like a tech demo,
like with just a model and the

3506
04:08:54.360 --> 04:08:58.000
guy's like fucking walking you through and
he's like, I just want to make

3507
04:08:58.040 --> 04:09:00.920
sure I could like give you a
taste of the bridge race your experience.

3508
04:09:01.000 --> 04:09:03.959
Let's get the sounds and the shapes
and like what do you think you're gonna

3509
04:09:03.000 --> 04:09:05.399
get out of Ridge Racer in my
man, I'm like, yeah, seem

3510
04:09:05.520 --> 04:09:11.159
like tracks I've gotten from Like so
like that aspect of it is fucking insane,

3511
04:09:11.280 --> 04:09:13.719
Like this shouldn't even have anything to
do with Ridge Racer. From what

3512
04:09:13.799 --> 04:09:18.760
it is. It's like a cool
sound like music editing toy where they've got

3513
04:09:18.799 --> 04:09:20.600
this track and you're basically remixing it, so like, yeah, it changes

3514
04:09:20.639 --> 04:09:24.760
the video, but actually when you're
touching the screen it is like cut off

3515
04:09:24.799 --> 04:09:28.760
and resonant snobs on the music,
so you're holding it down and going.

3516
04:09:28.200 --> 04:09:33.159
And also it's got wobble based all. Finally, it was more of a

3517
04:09:35.920 --> 04:09:48.200
wabble basin dance all the announced tracks, its camera change and then you and

3518
04:09:48.200 --> 04:09:52.040
then when you hold down to the
shoulder button starts to but like I wasn't

3519
04:09:52.040 --> 04:09:56.280
even paying attention to the video of
it. I was like I was fucking

3520
04:09:56.440 --> 04:09:58.440
feeling it, man, and you
hold it down, it starts like re

3521
04:09:58.639 --> 04:10:05.600
repeat, eating the current part of
the track. Yeah, it's but I

3522
04:10:05.680 --> 04:10:07.600
think I did this for like a
minute. The guy's like, go as

3523
04:10:07.680 --> 04:10:11.639
long as you want. I'm like
I'm done eventually stopping it. But well

3524
04:10:11.680 --> 04:10:15.399
so when I go. Now when
I saw it was no bad, so

3525
04:10:15.479 --> 04:10:16.959
I'm like still kind of doing it. I'm like, at what point is

3526
04:10:18.000 --> 04:10:20.799
it appropriate that I am like,
I am bored with your demo when I

3527
04:10:20.879 --> 04:10:22.000
when I played it, it was
like a minute and a half long,

3528
04:10:22.040 --> 04:10:26.680
and then it went back to the
title screen kept going when I went up

3529
04:10:26.719 --> 04:10:31.280
to something like that camera like they
did it first, So I went there

3530
04:10:31.319 --> 04:10:35.200
was one whole loop of the guy
who's like the sound design, like the

3531
04:10:35.319 --> 04:10:39.079
music guy for Ridge Racer doing it
and showing me like okay, and he's

3532
04:10:39.120 --> 04:10:41.120
doing it, you know, in
time with the music and stuff like that,

3533
04:10:41.200 --> 04:10:43.000
and making his own little remix of
this track. I was like cool,

3534
04:10:43.360 --> 04:10:46.200
and it's like now you try and
I was like okay, yeah,

3535
04:10:46.600 --> 04:10:50.120
I did it, and he was
like cool sound yeah good google. Yeah.

3536
04:10:50.920 --> 04:10:54.799
Like so because I, you know, have some rhythm, so it

3537
04:10:54.920 --> 04:11:01.360
was I was able to work the
blabla bla on time with the music.

3538
04:11:01.479 --> 04:11:03.879
And I suspect that a lot of
people were just up there going like I

3539
04:11:03.920 --> 04:11:07.079
don't, like, all right,
whatever, how do I drift? Where

3540
04:11:07.079 --> 04:11:13.520
do I do I drift? Yeah? So it's it's fucking weird because it's

3541
04:11:13.520 --> 04:11:16.559
just it's you know, why is
it there? Like if you the placard

3542
04:11:16.600 --> 04:11:20.120
on the station just says ridge Racer
working title, and I'm like, oh

3543
04:11:20.159 --> 04:11:22.360
awesome, okay, ridge racer totally. And you get up there and it

3544
04:11:22.399 --> 04:11:24.520
says, you know, a ridge
racer, but this say is like interactive

3545
04:11:24.639 --> 04:11:28.840
Trailers Sound Experience and yeah, like
they're saying like, we just want to

3546
04:11:28.879 --> 04:11:31.840
give you a taste of what you
can expect from the next Ridgard And if

3547
04:11:31.879 --> 04:11:33.159
that's what I can expect from the
next ridge Racer, It'll be the fucking

3548
04:11:33.159 --> 04:11:39.879
greatest ridge racer. Oh, because
it's not a fucking ridge rac you know,

3549
04:11:39.120 --> 04:11:48.440
this ridge racer is unbounded? Did
and also, uh, mister ink

3550
04:11:48.600 --> 04:11:52.280
Jet, now hold on, now, this is the point I brought up

3551
04:11:52.319 --> 04:11:56.680
to the publisher. I was like, is a isn't in jet a trademarked

3552
04:11:56.840 --> 04:12:01.879
thing, like by somebody like HP
somebody like ink jet is is like a

3553
04:12:01.000 --> 04:12:05.920
trademark owned by someone who makes printers, but not mister Inkjet. No.

3554
04:12:05.360 --> 04:12:09.319
And he was responsible, was,
yeah, they should we brought him look

3555
04:12:09.360 --> 04:12:15.360
into that. He was a Sony
guy. But the games by a Q

3556
04:12:15.520 --> 04:12:20.879
Interactive, so I don't know that
was an a Q guy. Yeah,

3557
04:12:20.079 --> 04:12:24.120
Okay, So they should look into
that. Maybe they spell it with a

3558
04:12:24.200 --> 04:12:31.120
Q. Maybe it's very Q jets
done two teeth? What dog's copyright law

3559
04:12:31.239 --> 04:12:35.959
like a motherfucker. So this game
is all rear touch. Yeah, keep

3560
04:12:37.040 --> 04:12:41.479
going. Uh and his pigs got
a paper doll? All right? You

3561
04:12:41.520 --> 04:12:43.760
know what I'm saying. Show me
on the doll where you re touchet.

3562
04:12:43.879 --> 04:12:48.440
Yeah. So you have this paper
doll, right, and you can use

3563
04:12:48.479 --> 04:12:52.239
a camera to take a picture of
a body O A right, and that

3564
04:12:52.360 --> 04:12:54.639
body will get mapped on that paper
doll. Now, Patrick, I'm looking

3565
04:12:54.680 --> 04:13:07.840
over here. What do you actually
do in WHOA? I just learned to

3566
04:13:07.920 --> 04:13:11.239
cycle? To me, I'm sorry, we're working title. He touched the

3567
04:13:11.280 --> 04:13:18.479
back with four fingers, one for
each limb on the mistery ink jets and

3568
04:13:18.799 --> 04:13:24.479
uh, he's basically falling man and
you're working his limbs to catch paper.

3569
04:13:26.120 --> 04:13:31.639
What there's a rope around mister Inkjet
and he's being lowered, and there are

3570
04:13:31.799 --> 04:13:35.680
bombs falling out of the sky and
you need to avoid those by bringing your

3571
04:13:35.760 --> 04:13:39.440
limbs in or moving them out of
the way of the explosive, but making

3572
04:13:39.440 --> 04:13:41.959
sure you're reaching out to get the
papers. Mister ink Jet is fucked.

3573
04:13:43.120 --> 04:13:46.959
Can you can ask a quick question, why why would you call this game?

3574
04:13:46.079 --> 04:13:52.559
Mister what about? Because if we
seen because when you said when you

3575
04:13:52.559 --> 04:13:54.280
said it was okay, mister Inkjet, I thought, like, okay,

3576
04:13:54.280 --> 04:13:58.680
it would be like a crazy little
squid or something. But no, he's

3577
04:13:58.719 --> 04:14:01.680
a paper He's a paper pet.
Actually yeah, yeah, squim would make

3578
04:14:01.719 --> 04:14:07.520
more sense. So they have made
a different mini games using the mister ink

3579
04:14:07.639 --> 04:14:15.000
Jet character for the Mystery Jet family
of products sponsored by HP so so in

3580
04:14:15.079 --> 04:14:18.600
another one of those, he is
just falling and there are other paper doll

3581
04:14:18.719 --> 04:14:22.600
men falling, but they weren't suits
and you got to punch them. All

3582
04:14:22.639 --> 04:14:26.040
right, Patrick, I'm actually now
legitimately turning. There was a third one,

3583
04:14:26.079 --> 04:14:31.680
but I forget what it was,
Patrick, What did you do today?

3584
04:14:31.920 --> 04:14:35.600
We saw x Calm? We did? We did see x Calm,

3585
04:14:35.680 --> 04:14:41.559
which nineteen sixties mass effect. They've
they've gone They hadn't shown they've gone dark

3586
04:14:41.639 --> 04:14:45.440
for a full year after last three
when everyone tore them a new asshole over

3587
04:14:45.520 --> 04:14:50.239
what they were showing for x Calm. Then I didn't that game looked cool

3588
04:14:50.319 --> 04:14:54.319
last year last it was unless they
tore them a new asshole. As much

3589
04:14:54.360 --> 04:14:56.840
as like when you ask, like
so what's the structure of their game.

3590
04:14:56.879 --> 04:15:01.680
They're like, I know, they
were the they were legitimately honest, like,

3591
04:15:01.120 --> 04:15:03.840
this is all we've got and we're
kind of figuring out the rest or

3592
04:15:03.840 --> 04:15:07.200
the next year. And I mean
it didn't seem like like they had necessarily

3593
04:15:07.559 --> 04:15:13.200
like fundamentally retooled anything like from what
that was shown last year. So this

3594
04:15:13.319 --> 04:15:16.719
year it's it's it's more of just
like, okay, yeah, you know

3595
04:15:16.879 --> 04:15:18.959
the enemies stuff that it was actually
a game. The enemy like a pitch

3596
04:15:20.120 --> 04:15:24.239
video like that, are like well
and so so in in the theater demo,

3597
04:15:24.399 --> 04:15:26.760
they when they were showing X Calm, they were like, you know,

3598
04:15:26.879 --> 04:15:31.239
yeah, we were fresh off of
BioShock too. Uh so you know

3599
04:15:31.319 --> 04:15:33.040
there was that that was that was
kind of where our heads were. So

3600
04:15:33.159 --> 04:15:35.239
when we started working on x Calm, you know, there was some shit

3601
04:15:35.319 --> 04:15:39.239
in there that was, you know, too bioshocky, and you know,

3602
04:15:39.319 --> 04:15:43.799
so they changed some of that stuff. They changed the look of some of

3603
04:15:43.879 --> 04:15:46.159
the enemies because you know, they
say, yeah, the enemies a little

3604
04:15:46.159 --> 04:15:50.239
too much like splicers, and some
of the abilities a little too much le

3605
04:15:50.280 --> 04:15:52.600
Tonics or whatever, and a harvest
add about of these aliens think about it,

3606
04:15:52.680 --> 04:15:56.200
but you know they've they've kind of
it seems like they are you know,

3607
04:15:56.319 --> 04:16:02.399
going to to lengths to kind of
incorporate and kind of or you know,

3608
04:16:02.680 --> 04:16:06.000
interpolate some of the ideas from the
old ex commute because this is still

3609
04:16:06.000 --> 04:16:07.840
the first person shooter, yes,
first one shooter, but it's also squad

3610
04:16:07.840 --> 04:16:11.159
based and there's also RPG mechanics with
the with the squad stuff. They seem

3611
04:16:11.239 --> 04:16:15.159
like, you know, they're Morgan
Gray, they created Vector over two.

3612
04:16:15.200 --> 04:16:18.120
Cameron was up there kind of you
know, talking about it, and you

3613
04:16:18.159 --> 04:16:19.000
know, he's very honest about like, look, we looked at what a

3614
04:16:19.079 --> 04:16:22.520
sort of the base elements of like
what makes the next comedy and fun?

3615
04:16:22.840 --> 04:16:26.319
But also like that game doesn't sell
anymore, so how can we take the

3616
04:16:26.680 --> 04:16:30.760
sort of fun the elements of people
liked about that and modernize them for for

3617
04:16:30.840 --> 04:16:33.719
an audience and you know the Yeah, but even in this demo, like

3618
04:16:34.079 --> 04:16:37.520
Morgan Gray was very honest about like
stuff they haven't figured out yet, Like

3619
04:16:37.559 --> 04:16:42.360
they have these squad characters that you
you level up and you you you sort

3620
04:16:42.399 --> 04:16:45.239
of customize for yourself. But you
know, someone asked like, well do

3621
04:16:45.319 --> 04:16:48.520
they die? And he's like,
I don't know. That seems kind of

3622
04:16:48.559 --> 04:16:52.879
harsh, and so I got a
couple of different guys, completely different demo,

3623
04:16:52.000 --> 04:16:56.040
I mean, not complete really,
but but they were saying like because

3624
04:16:56.280 --> 04:16:59.040
afterwards there was a little Q and
A in the theater, yeah, and

3625
04:17:00.440 --> 04:17:03.479
talking about the you know the other
agents that are in your squad, and

3626
04:17:03.520 --> 04:17:07.440
they're like, yeah, basically you
know, they don't they will go into

3627
04:17:07.440 --> 04:17:11.360
a penalty box if they die too
many times. But so even the people

3628
04:17:11.440 --> 04:17:15.360
on the game don't know. Yeah, that's how much influx that shit is

3629
04:17:15.440 --> 04:17:17.559
apparently. Yeah, I mean it
sounds like a lot of this stuff is

3630
04:17:17.600 --> 04:17:21.120
up in the air. But the
sort of the sort of base gameplay of

3631
04:17:21.239 --> 04:17:23.799
Again, my comparison is nineteen sixties
The Best Fight, because it's the best

3632
04:17:23.840 --> 04:17:26.639
way to describe the base mechanics.
But I love I love the idea that

3633
04:17:27.399 --> 04:17:30.360
you know they're taking the X kind
thing of like you're doing like all the

3634
04:17:30.479 --> 04:17:33.680
R and D, so like you'll
collect during alien technology, but you have

3635
04:17:33.760 --> 04:17:37.840
the choice of you have to make
a conscious choice during combat, Like you'll

3636
04:17:37.840 --> 04:17:40.520
see a turret and you should just
take it out. It'll make your whole

3637
04:17:40.520 --> 04:17:42.159
combat sequence easier. But if you
don't take it out, then you go

3638
04:17:42.319 --> 04:17:45.239
behind it and then collect it.
Then you can take that back for R

3639
04:17:45.319 --> 04:17:49.200
and D. You also have the
option of during combat to take that turret

3640
04:17:49.239 --> 04:17:55.600
and redeploy it as a player friendly
structure, and you can do that even

3641
04:17:55.680 --> 04:18:00.520
with like some of the crazy giant
enemies you'll you'll find during the just kind

3642
04:18:00.520 --> 04:18:03.280
of a risk reward over whether you
want to take that back for like a

3643
04:18:03.719 --> 04:18:06.319
big weapon you want to research,
or you just want to like take out

3644
04:18:06.639 --> 04:18:08.399
take out a room. Either way, they are like definitely like a big

3645
04:18:08.479 --> 04:18:12.360
part of that game, part of
the experience seems to be like really incentivizing

3646
04:18:12.639 --> 04:18:17.440
trying to capture as much of that
alien technology. And our new was huge

3647
04:18:17.479 --> 04:18:19.920
and next kind of like that was
a massive part of that game. So

3648
04:18:21.040 --> 04:18:22.920
they're they're definitely bringing a flavor of
that into into the new one. And

3649
04:18:23.399 --> 04:18:26.000
like the styles got like you know, Super Eights coming out this week and

3650
04:18:26.120 --> 04:18:30.159
had the same sort of vibe of
like you know, like you know,

3651
04:18:30.879 --> 04:18:33.479
coming off of nineteen fifties America when
everything was like perfect and like communism is

3652
04:18:33.520 --> 04:18:37.799
coming in. They're sort of using
that to sort of bring in the aliens

3653
04:18:37.840 --> 04:18:40.680
that have kind of like become sleeper
agents and it was like it was in

3654
04:18:40.840 --> 04:18:45.200
on all cylinders for like shit,
I like, and I'm just I'm really

3655
04:18:45.280 --> 04:18:47.440
looking forward to that, you know, they get they kind of got a

3656
04:18:47.440 --> 04:18:49.440
bad rap in BioShock two because it
was called BioShock with a two on it.

3657
04:18:49.600 --> 04:18:52.760
And I'm excited to see what those
guys do kind of with their with

3658
04:18:52.840 --> 04:18:56.479
their own thing, because I think
there's a lot of talented guys over there

3659
04:18:56.559 --> 04:18:59.680
that had some strong ideas, but
it's kind of tough to follow up.

3660
04:18:59.760 --> 04:19:02.840
KEN mean sure, sure, and
I mean yeah to be and it's tough

3661
04:19:02.879 --> 04:19:06.959
to compete with, you know,
the legacy of of x Calm and people's

3662
04:19:07.000 --> 04:19:10.079
fondness for that too. It's you
know, it took on the dash Man

3663
04:19:12.040 --> 04:19:17.319
com. They're just like a studio
of unenviable positions, aren't they Like they

3664
04:19:17.399 --> 04:19:21.000
just are constantly throw us to these
situations of I don't want to have to

3665
04:19:21.120 --> 04:19:23.040
do this. They seem to be
taking like with Essa's approach they did with

3666
04:19:23.120 --> 04:19:25.840
Fall, it was like, you
know, you know, you know,

3667
04:19:26.319 --> 04:19:30.239
honor what was there and acknowledge the
legacy, but you know, we're gonna

3668
04:19:30.280 --> 04:19:33.200
make a good game, Like we're
not going to worry about doing that to

3669
04:19:33.239 --> 04:19:36.159
the point that it harms our design, and I think as long as it's

3670
04:19:36.159 --> 04:19:38.120
a good game, you know,
they can have their x com fans like

3671
04:19:38.200 --> 04:19:41.159
what's the what's the fall at one
with no mutants alone? Yeah, and

3672
04:19:41.159 --> 04:19:45.680
there like like eternally with they're just
like just don't read that site, like

3673
04:19:45.840 --> 04:19:48.159
we tried, and like it's just
not worth it anymore. And there there

3674
04:19:48.200 --> 04:19:52.680
are elements in Bash two that were
that were really great, I mean regardless

3675
04:19:52.719 --> 04:19:56.000
of you know, how it figured
into the mythology or whatever. But we

3676
04:19:56.120 --> 04:20:06.399
also saw darkness too. Yeah yeah, yeah, not so much. I

3677
04:20:06.479 --> 04:20:11.360
mean I recently played through the original
Okay Darkness and street Fighter in it.

3678
04:20:12.920 --> 04:20:17.200
Tiba movies are all in there,
like on the endgame TVs and sit there

3679
04:20:17.200 --> 04:20:19.040
and watch like a two hour you
can you can watch all yeah, yeah

3680
04:20:19.079 --> 04:20:22.200
you can. And like there was
no one on Twitter that likes said like

3681
04:20:22.600 --> 04:20:23.920
I just wanted to challenge that game
and see if I actually could do this.

3682
04:20:25.000 --> 04:20:26.440
So I sat there for two hours
and I watched like one of the

3683
04:20:26.520 --> 04:20:30.680
TVs and you can actually walk it
all through. Yeah. I don't know,

3684
04:20:30.079 --> 04:20:33.879
uh, like it didn't have like
the flavor I liked of I guess

3685
04:20:33.879 --> 04:20:37.559
we didn't get any of the real
story stuff that the demo was very like,

3686
04:20:37.760 --> 04:20:41.399
hey, our combat is good now, which it wasn't in the Darkness

3687
04:20:41.000 --> 04:20:44.879
understandably that they would want to show
that off. But this was different than

3688
04:20:44.920 --> 04:20:48.239
what they're showing the packs, right, I don't want to see the packs.

3689
04:20:48.319 --> 04:20:51.719
Oh all right, I never have
seen that game. It was a

3690
04:20:51.760 --> 04:20:56.319
lot like showing new Darkness powers that
shoot. The shooting is enjoyable and fun,

3691
04:20:56.600 --> 04:20:59.280
and so what they're showing of packs
was like a restaurant scene where you're

3692
04:20:59.280 --> 04:21:03.719
getting led to this in a circus. Okay, okay, carnival they were

3693
04:21:04.319 --> 04:21:08.520
they referenced that that scene where you
know hit or you know, an attempted

3694
04:21:08.559 --> 04:21:12.159
to hit on Jackie and like that's
where the darkenst powers. Actually no,

3695
04:21:12.239 --> 04:21:17.040
that was an interview, never mind, but yes, yes, that that

3696
04:21:17.120 --> 04:21:18.719
scene. Okay, that scene was
referenced a different scene. But yeah,

3697
04:21:18.760 --> 04:21:22.079
this was just like run through a
carnival area and they're these you know,

3698
04:21:22.239 --> 04:21:26.399
Brotherhood agents that are trying to take
you out with lights and kind of showing

3699
04:21:26.440 --> 04:21:32.639
off some of the the light mechanics
stuff, which whenever basically, whenever there's

3700
04:21:32.680 --> 04:21:36.520
bright lights, you can't use the
Darkness stepify the guy with like a light

3701
04:21:36.639 --> 04:21:40.000
say, yeah, I guess.
The story stuff and sort of the interactive

3702
04:21:40.000 --> 04:21:44.920
first person sequences in the commitment to
first person and narrative was my very part

3703
04:21:44.959 --> 04:21:47.319
of the Darkness. So, you
know, the combat wasn't that great,

3704
04:21:47.399 --> 04:21:49.239
That's not what I was looking to
see. If they could, you can

3705
04:21:49.280 --> 04:21:52.120
make it. It was really really
obvious how a Darkness sequ would have better

3706
04:21:52.200 --> 04:21:56.079
combat. I was curious to see
what they're gonna do with the other stuff.

3707
04:21:56.000 --> 04:21:59.440
It's been made by what digital extremes, right, so I'm kind of

3708
04:21:59.440 --> 04:22:03.920
already ended on a weird, you
know, twisty cliffhanger. I'll be curious

3709
04:22:03.920 --> 04:22:06.680
to see where they go with that. What did you guys think of the

3710
04:22:06.760 --> 04:22:10.920
directional control you have over like the
wiping? We didn't really get into it.

3711
04:22:11.000 --> 04:22:15.840
This was in a theater, judge, No really yeah, okay,

3712
04:22:17.200 --> 04:22:18.920
yeah, I know. This was
just in the theater and they kind of

3713
04:22:18.000 --> 04:22:22.680
ran through this. I said that
several times today. Yeah. See,

3714
04:22:22.799 --> 04:22:26.639
now you get it. Now that
you've pretended to be a judge for an

3715
04:22:26.680 --> 04:22:30.760
appointment more fun because see how guys, I got to do the armaissance where

3716
04:22:30.799 --> 04:22:36.399
I was not a judge. It
just pretending to be got even better.

3717
04:22:36.639 --> 04:22:37.719
So every time you go to one
of those appointments, do you just like

3718
04:22:37.840 --> 04:22:45.000
yelling I am the law? Uh? Speaking of which, I went to

3719
04:22:45.479 --> 04:22:55.360
the Square Nix booth and saw a
Hitman and also quickly played through the the

3720
04:22:55.479 --> 04:22:57.840
tomb Raiders sequence, the demo stuff
that they showed during the press conference,

3721
04:22:57.920 --> 04:23:03.120
which you know, I played it, and it is a game. I'm

3722
04:23:03.159 --> 04:23:06.079
not sure that there's a lot for
me to say about what it's like to

3723
04:23:06.120 --> 04:23:08.040
play that game, because it's you
know, it's that you've played it,

3724
04:23:08.319 --> 04:23:12.520
played it. Do you understand my
hesitance about it? Certainly? And and

3725
04:23:14.079 --> 04:23:18.159
if I hadn't seen kind of the
other part of it along with that like

3726
04:23:18.239 --> 04:23:19.959
that, I would have been like, it's like when does this become a

3727
04:23:21.000 --> 04:23:22.760
tumbrator game or you know, kind
of a game really? I mean I

3728
04:23:22.760 --> 04:23:25.559
saw saw that the other part,
and I think it was it was worried,

3729
04:23:25.719 --> 04:23:27.639
like when they started talking percentages and
saying game is gonna so it's like

3730
04:23:27.680 --> 04:23:33.479
half the game is gonna be like
half a game then, but then but

3731
04:23:33.520 --> 04:23:37.120
then the other section they showed was
you know, big wide open environment,

3732
04:23:37.159 --> 04:23:40.440
so I'm like, you know whatever, but the Hitman, you know,

3733
04:23:40.520 --> 04:23:44.719
iowed back to that since Blood Money, and that was actually the only Hitman

3734
04:23:44.840 --> 04:23:48.120
game that I had played, and
I actually fucking love blood Money is awesome

3735
04:23:48.000 --> 04:23:52.280
and what I love about Blood Money, And you know, there's a bunch

3736
04:23:52.280 --> 04:23:56.360
of iocats there that so they actually
played through and this this was a sequence

3737
04:23:56.399 --> 04:23:57.760
that you saw. Yeah, this
is a sequence where you're disguised is a

3738
04:23:57.799 --> 04:24:02.319
cop at one point and you come
on a hippie who has bong and you

3739
04:24:02.360 --> 04:24:03.319
grabbed the bong and then it hit
another cop in the face with it.

3740
04:24:03.520 --> 04:24:08.280
Yeah, this happens. I've seen
it confirmed demo. End that is,

3741
04:24:08.360 --> 04:24:11.479
it is pretty close to the end
of the demo, yap like you you

3742
04:24:11.760 --> 04:24:15.319
fuck up these two cops and then
walk out into a train station completely anonymous

3743
04:24:15.319 --> 04:24:18.559
and pull you know, it does
the pull back so so like and you

3744
04:24:18.639 --> 04:24:22.319
know, Io's giant crowd tech at
at you know, hitting on all cylinders

3745
04:24:22.360 --> 04:24:26.840
in that sequence kind of as he's
walking out into just this gigantic fucking crowd

3746
04:24:26.920 --> 04:24:32.200
of people, which which looked pretty
cool and walking past like tons of cops,

3747
04:24:32.319 --> 04:24:33.920
Yeah, dressed up like a cop. We were like, hey,

3748
04:24:33.079 --> 04:24:37.239
I thought they transferred to So so
it's it's kind of like there's they're not

3749
04:24:37.360 --> 04:24:41.479
talking very specifically about story stuff,
but like, at this point, there's

3750
04:24:41.520 --> 04:24:44.879
a man hunt for age and forty
seven and you're in Chicago, right,

3751
04:24:44.920 --> 04:24:48.000
You're in Chicago library. It's about
time there are kind of after it.

3752
04:24:48.079 --> 04:24:49.440
It's like, hey, this guy's
been murdering people for a really long time.

3753
04:24:49.440 --> 04:24:52.799
We should maybe do something about that. Nobody's incognito the whole time.

3754
04:24:53.319 --> 04:24:56.559
So so someone's been murder It was
a mailman and then it was a cop.

3755
04:24:56.760 --> 04:25:02.200
You heard it was all you think
someone would at some point look at

3756
04:25:02.200 --> 04:25:04.559
the back of his head go hey, why does that cop have a barcode

3757
04:25:04.600 --> 04:25:10.840
on the back of his fucking head? Why isn't killing that guy? So

3758
04:25:10.959 --> 04:25:15.760
but you're this beat up a library
and it has a lot of kind of

3759
04:25:15.799 --> 04:25:18.239
the you know, they showed a
lot of kind of shooting sequences in that,

3760
04:25:18.319 --> 04:25:22.719
and I get that when you show
a game at E three, you

3761
04:25:22.840 --> 04:25:25.920
show some gun play, because if
you just showed that that game the way

3762
04:25:26.000 --> 04:25:30.479
that I whenever I get like,
my best playthrough of a Hitman mission is

3763
04:25:30.559 --> 04:25:34.600
when I don't shoot anyone, and
I am never even like directly pulling the

3764
04:25:34.680 --> 04:25:40.719
trigger whenever someone dies, I'm just
standing nearby and can then just completely like

3765
04:25:40.879 --> 04:25:44.760
calmly walk out of the scenario and
just you know, drop him in a

3766
04:25:44.840 --> 04:25:48.520
shark pit. Basically. Yeah.
Yeah, Like I loved that about about

3767
04:25:48.559 --> 04:25:51.000
Blood Money. It was it was
my absolute favorite thing about that game.

3768
04:25:51.079 --> 04:25:52.799
So so when they were showing all
the shooting stuff, it's like, you

3769
04:25:52.840 --> 04:25:56.360
know, it's cover based shooter for
that stuff. I'm like, okay that

3770
04:25:56.040 --> 04:25:59.200
it has that stuff, and I
get it. And it seems like they're

3771
04:25:59.239 --> 04:26:03.319
being a lot more forgiving than you
know, past hit Man games. You

3772
04:26:03.920 --> 04:26:07.840
can't get shot very much, and
he seems a lot more resilient. But

3773
04:26:07.879 --> 04:26:11.639
again, they were also you know, E three demosope, whatever, but

3774
04:26:11.799 --> 04:26:15.239
they've they've introduced so so it had
a lot of the same beats that you

3775
04:26:15.319 --> 04:26:19.399
expect from from Hitman. Still of
like you're you're in hiding near groups of

3776
04:26:19.479 --> 04:26:23.399
characters and there's just tons of dialogue, and that dialogue is you know,

3777
04:26:23.559 --> 04:26:26.840
just your eaves dropping on this dialogue
and it's really informing you, like you're

3778
04:26:27.040 --> 04:26:30.719
getting to know like, Okay,
there's this kind of young rookie cop and

3779
04:26:30.760 --> 04:26:33.719
he's been part of the squad,
and there's this asshole captain that's giving him

3780
04:26:33.719 --> 04:26:36.360
a hard time about uh, you
know, not being able to keep the

3781
04:26:36.479 --> 04:26:38.760
lights on in this place, and
you start kind of finding the threads,

3782
04:26:38.879 --> 04:26:41.879
like they leave you these weird you
know, kind of breadcrumb trails of like,

3783
04:26:42.000 --> 04:26:47.000
Okay, here's how here's here's a
potential path to explore to figure out

3784
04:26:47.040 --> 04:26:51.319
a way to take out these guys
without anyone noticing or you know, you're

3785
04:26:51.319 --> 04:26:53.280
getting getting through this stuff real,
real slickly. But they've also added this

3786
04:26:53.360 --> 04:26:56.440
mechanic that's like some sort of like
kind of assassin's vision or something. I

3787
04:26:56.479 --> 04:27:00.040
can't remember what they called it.
It maybe called a detective vision, but

3788
04:27:00.120 --> 04:27:03.399
it's so it's it's not it's not
just you see you see dudes through walls,

3789
04:27:03.440 --> 04:27:07.120
but then they are detective mission.
You see dudes through walls. But

3790
04:27:07.200 --> 04:27:11.239
then there's also like you also see
and and it's it's a thing you have

3791
04:27:11.319 --> 04:27:14.520
to like charge up. You have
to do stealth, You have to do

3792
04:27:14.639 --> 04:27:19.000
like stealth takeouts of some enemies to
charge this ability up. But it actually

3793
04:27:19.040 --> 04:27:23.799
gives you you actually see like a
kind of short term path intuition, intuition

3794
04:27:23.879 --> 04:27:29.319
assassins into something, yeah, something
like that, but you actually see a

3795
04:27:29.360 --> 04:27:30.959
small path on the ground kind of
like this is where this guy is going

3796
04:27:32.000 --> 04:27:34.559
to go, so you know,
get out of that way so you can

3797
04:27:34.600 --> 04:27:37.920
come up behind him. And it's
not even like a long path like you

3798
04:27:37.040 --> 04:27:41.440
see like his next maybe five steps, yeah, like that. So it's

3799
04:27:41.440 --> 04:27:42.879
it's something it's something that's useful for
someone that's very near by, but when

3800
04:27:42.879 --> 04:27:45.239
you're not in stealth, and like
if you're in in costume, you can

3801
04:27:45.319 --> 04:27:49.319
also use this when you're getting near
a guy, uh to to actually kind

3802
04:27:49.360 --> 04:27:53.399
of go so like do like a
little incognito move, so like you're walking

3803
04:27:53.440 --> 04:27:56.639
past a guy. Oh. Actually
this was this was the part that I

3804
04:27:56.760 --> 04:27:59.840
really liked. I thought this was
fucking cool four Hitman game, and this

3805
04:28:00.079 --> 04:28:03.280
is this like makes the stealth stuff
so much easier to deal with. There's

3806
04:28:03.319 --> 04:28:07.920
kind of a it's it's not always
visible, but there's this central hut element

3807
04:28:07.959 --> 04:28:11.239
that appears kind of when there's an
enemy, like when when you're in disguise,

3808
04:28:11.280 --> 04:28:14.360
like dressed up as a cop,
take cop out, take his clothes,

3809
04:28:15.319 --> 04:28:18.440
and like when you're kind of walking
past guys when they're starting to become

3810
04:28:18.479 --> 04:28:22.399
suspicious, like this kind of like
it's it's like it's in the middle,

3811
04:28:22.440 --> 04:28:26.000
it's it's kind of this ring shape
area basically, and it starts off it's

3812
04:28:26.079 --> 04:28:27.440
kind of like there's just a little
line on the side, and as they

3813
04:28:27.520 --> 04:28:30.319
become more suspicious and you're closing to
break and cover, it actually starts coming

3814
04:28:30.399 --> 04:28:34.760
to a point. So you actually
have this great kind of graphical feature to

3815
04:28:34.920 --> 04:28:37.399
know, like because he used to
be like, I don't know how long

3816
04:28:37.760 --> 04:28:41.760
and how close I can actually get
to these guys before covers busted and I'm

3817
04:28:41.799 --> 04:28:44.559
fucked, And you know, in
a Hitman game, usually when you're covers

3818
04:28:44.600 --> 04:28:47.520
busted, you are fucked. So
to be able to have this like,

3819
04:28:47.600 --> 04:28:49.239
okay, I know that when this
actually comes to a point, that's when

3820
04:28:49.280 --> 04:28:52.840
I need to That's that's when this
is all going to go bad. So

3821
04:28:52.280 --> 04:28:56.120
being able to kind of use that
to manage you know, where you're going

3822
04:28:56.319 --> 04:28:59.680
and how you're you're pathing, I
thought was a really cool touch. But

3823
04:29:00.200 --> 04:29:03.639
uh, there's there's also the thing
where like when you're walking by a guy

3824
04:29:03.799 --> 04:29:07.680
that that point starts happening, you
can use that same ability and he'll do

3825
04:29:07.760 --> 04:29:08.760
a thing where he'll kind of like
put his hand up and kind of like

3826
04:29:08.920 --> 04:29:11.959
move the hat a little bit to
the side and kind of like you know,

3827
04:29:11.079 --> 04:29:15.239
kind of caller up, kind of
shoulder up some to just like and

3828
04:29:15.479 --> 04:29:18.000
you can use that to then to
know, reduce that and shrink that down.

3829
04:29:18.079 --> 04:29:21.559
And I thought that was a nice
cool touch. But you know,

3830
04:29:21.719 --> 04:29:25.000
other than kind of these these these
things that they've added and the uh,

3831
04:29:25.360 --> 04:29:29.559
the you know, just overall production
and quality of it definitely felt like hit

3832
04:29:29.600 --> 04:29:32.760
Man game, which I thought was
was really good. And in traditional Hitman,

3833
04:29:33.360 --> 04:29:37.840
you know, kind of in my
way of playing hit Man, I

3834
04:29:37.959 --> 04:29:41.559
like to talk about how I love
to do these super clean kills. But

3835
04:29:41.719 --> 04:29:44.760
then like I go and pick up
the game after watching this demo happen,

3836
04:29:45.280 --> 04:29:48.000
and I'm like, all right,
I'm gonna try and do this as stealthy

3837
04:29:48.040 --> 04:29:51.319
as I can. Literally, like
three minutes in and I'm dead from all

3838
04:29:51.360 --> 04:29:55.079
of the bullet holes from all of
the cops. So, uh, that's

3839
04:29:55.120 --> 04:29:57.479
not a game that is particularly fun
to play in front of people. And

3840
04:29:57.520 --> 04:30:00.840
there were like three Iodo in the
room watching me and you know, kind

3841
04:30:00.840 --> 04:30:03.120
of trying to guide me. So
I appreciate that at the same time,

3842
04:30:03.239 --> 04:30:07.120
like I don't. I don't want
people to see me playing hit Man.

3843
04:30:07.200 --> 04:30:11.159
It's this is something that's is this
your secret change? Playing it. It's

3844
04:30:11.200 --> 04:30:14.520
like peek, you can't do it
in front of people. It's it's it's

3845
04:30:14.719 --> 04:30:18.840
uh, you can't put that on
the back of the box. Knowing the

3846
04:30:19.079 --> 04:30:22.920
knowing the IO guys, I you
know, wouldn't wouldn't put it past them.

3847
04:30:22.000 --> 04:30:26.920
But enough so at one point,
Vineyard hang out in the back of

3848
04:30:27.000 --> 04:30:33.360
the booth and uh uh talking to
the IO guys and and uh, I

3849
04:30:33.440 --> 04:30:37.200
can't remember how it came up.
Oh no, so I was. I

3850
04:30:37.280 --> 04:30:40.719
was telling them specifically the love you
know, just walking straight out, you

3851
04:30:40.760 --> 04:30:44.239
know, totally clean and no dirt
on the hands, and says like,

3852
04:30:44.280 --> 04:30:45.799
oh, you know, it's better
than going out in a body bag.

3853
04:30:45.840 --> 04:30:48.440
And he said, oh, you
know, actually that would be kind of

3854
04:30:48.479 --> 04:30:52.639
cool to have a sequence where you
actually get into a body bag and you

3855
04:30:52.719 --> 04:30:55.680
know, have you know someone dragged
you out, like you know, someone

3856
04:30:55.719 --> 04:30:57.280
else unknowingly dragged you out of that. And that's kind of the end of

3857
04:30:57.280 --> 04:31:00.440
the sequence. And then I can't
remember who it was, but one of

3858
04:31:00.479 --> 04:31:04.600
these guys there had been on the
Hitman series since the very beginnings. Vinny

3859
04:31:04.680 --> 04:31:10.920
said that this guy like turns and
looks at him and just daggers, and

3860
04:31:11.079 --> 04:31:14.799
he actually says that Vinnie says,
I hate you now, and and Vinnie's

3861
04:31:14.879 --> 04:31:17.799
kind of like didn't know how to
respond, wasn't sure exactly what was going

3862
04:31:17.879 --> 04:31:21.920
on, but it seemed like they
What he then said is like, I

3863
04:31:21.959 --> 04:31:25.319
can't believe we've made all these hit
Man games and we've never actually had that

3864
04:31:25.479 --> 04:31:29.200
sequence, Like how did? I
think It seemed like he was pissed that

3865
04:31:29.879 --> 04:31:32.120
that Vinnie had just kind of off
the off the top of the head,

3866
04:31:32.200 --> 04:31:33.360
just said, oh, here's this
cool idea that maybe you guys, you

3867
04:31:33.399 --> 04:31:37.600
know, that would be kind of
whatever, and they're like, fucking that

3868
04:31:37.600 --> 04:31:41.239
that is the worst because because they
were saying like, yeah, it's actually

3869
04:31:41.440 --> 04:31:45.280
really goddamn hard to come up with
all of these different ways for you to

3870
04:31:45.600 --> 04:31:48.639
sneak through these scenarios like ya,
dude, dress up like a milk man

3871
04:31:48.680 --> 04:31:55.680
and you drive out. So so
I think I think it was either one

3872
04:31:55.680 --> 04:31:57.200
of the two things. Either he
was like, well, generally pissed that

3873
04:31:57.239 --> 04:32:02.879
this guy just came in and did
that that's already in this game, and

3874
04:32:02.959 --> 04:32:04.920
he's like, fuck, this guy
already knows one of the things, and

3875
04:32:04.959 --> 04:32:07.399
now he's gonna seet in the game. He's gonna think that we ripped that

3876
04:32:07.520 --> 04:32:11.239
off from him from this mentioned.
So, so when you look when you

3877
04:32:11.280 --> 04:32:15.040
see the body bags in the New
Hitman game, think of any Caravella,

3878
04:32:15.280 --> 04:32:19.079
Think of any Caravella. I'm sorry, Patrick, I took you over there.

3879
04:32:22.040 --> 04:32:26.200
It's cool you do change of cameras. I think that that I may

3880
04:32:26.280 --> 04:32:32.680
be partially responsible for if it actually
goes through one of the achievements and street

3881
04:32:32.719 --> 04:32:37.879
fight across technually talk about that now. Okay, So a couple of weeks

3882
04:32:37.920 --> 04:32:41.479
ago when they had all their pre
show events and stuff like that, you

3883
04:32:41.559 --> 04:32:44.000
know, the Capcom had one and
they had that game, played played a

3884
04:32:44.040 --> 04:32:47.280
lot of it, and they had
the characters that they unveiled here like Sigot

3885
04:32:47.680 --> 04:32:51.479
and Julia and stuff like that.
And Bob is in that game as well.

3886
04:32:51.600 --> 04:32:55.280
From tech right, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm playing with with

3887
04:32:56.239 --> 04:33:03.200
with jose With from Electric Run.
Yeah reviews on the Run, I believe

3888
04:33:03.719 --> 04:33:17.400
and uh and uh yeah and what
ye so and and we both we both

3889
04:33:17.479 --> 04:33:21.279
kind of came to the realization that
you can, you know, with the

3890
04:33:21.319 --> 04:33:23.240
way the versus screen is built,
if you pick Segott and then Bob,

3891
04:33:23.319 --> 04:33:30.720
it's just straight up says Bob Saggett
on that screen and yo, we're playing

3892
04:33:30.759 --> 04:33:36.279
this Bob sag It over here and
like set it up, taking a picture

3893
04:33:36.319 --> 04:33:37.919
of it, and someone did I
forget what it was? Like I said,

3894
04:33:37.959 --> 04:33:40.840
of taking a picture, I haven't
put it up on Twitter, and

3895
04:33:40.919 --> 04:33:47.720
then realizing that Segott and I've been
announced yet and immediately but too late at

3896
04:33:47.759 --> 04:33:51.400
that point, too late at that
point, answer that that's where that screen

3897
04:33:51.560 --> 04:33:57.279
came from. Yeah, in a
street fighter a game, right, yeah,

3898
04:33:59.000 --> 04:34:00.400
and it's like you to name it, you've gotta having achieve it called

3899
04:34:00.439 --> 04:34:06.479
full house where you beat the game
with Bob and Sigott or or Bob Sagett

3900
04:34:06.560 --> 04:34:10.720
versus Bob Saget in there and and
just just call a full house and go.

3901
04:34:11.119 --> 04:34:14.959
So if that's and is there a
way they can put up the Jesse

3902
04:34:15.119 --> 04:34:18.840
in that game? Maybe maybe he
was in the previous tech and game,

3903
04:34:18.919 --> 04:34:22.119
right, Yeah, yeah, Patrick, is there anything else you wanted to

3904
04:34:22.560 --> 04:34:26.520
bring up from today's travails? It's
too am all right, James came,

3905
04:34:27.240 --> 04:34:32.319
we're shutting it down. Then no
word, no, no, no,

3906
04:34:32.520 --> 04:34:36.439
stop talking, and that's what and
then like another the door opens and like

3907
04:34:36.599 --> 04:34:49.360
nine people walk in. That is
keep going. J j Abrams Night comes

3908
04:34:49.400 --> 04:34:56.319
through night. Hey guys, we
heard you. Guys. We're doing a

3909
04:34:56.360 --> 04:35:00.919
podcast. We run a connect.
Come take a seat, brother, you

3910
04:35:02.000 --> 04:35:07.880
gotta see that. You gotta see
that, Normandy brother. All right,

3911
04:35:07.959 --> 04:35:12.880
we're ending this thing. It's gone
on far too long. Logan and Greg.

3912
04:35:14.000 --> 04:35:15.759
Thank you guys for for Logan Greg
and Greg. Thank you guys for

3913
04:35:17.040 --> 04:35:21.200
coming in and sitting here, as
well as the rest of the the Super

3914
04:35:21.279 --> 04:35:26.439
Giant team. And uh, Eric
Pope and John Drake for yawning their way

3915
04:35:26.520 --> 04:35:33.000
through the evening like a couple of
champs. Turn on that guess. Thanks

3916
04:35:33.680 --> 04:35:40.279
to see you. Pleasure is always
miss you too, uh and uh with

3917
04:35:40.479 --> 04:35:45.159
that weird We're gonna say goodbye from
Prepared at the bomb House. Tomorrow is

3918
04:35:45.159 --> 04:35:51.200
the last day of E three.
Tomorrow is the last day of E three.

3919
04:35:51.319 --> 04:35:59.439
Oh yeah, all right now we're
all we're all gonna leave here because

3920
04:35:59.439 --> 04:36:03.439
it's your hot Oh no, I
have to stay here. Those beers.

3921
04:36:07.240 --> 04:36:12.080
I opened all of these one ship
and like maybe another one of these the

3922
04:36:12.200 --> 04:36:19.520
Duke of Beer. Thanks for everyone
watching us here. I'd like thank Vinnie

3923
04:36:19.560 --> 04:36:23.880
for for running the first half and
Drew Scanlon for man on the boards back

3924
04:36:23.959 --> 04:36:27.919
there for the second half. Guys, are champions? Uh yeah, one

3925
04:36:27.959 --> 04:36:32.000
more day of E three will be
back with our final day wrap up tomorrow.

3926
04:36:32.040 --> 04:36:32.560
We'll see you then