Hello, and welcome back to Raised by Giants. I'm writer e Lee.
Welcome everyone in the chat. We are live, and wow, do we
have an amazing show for you guys here today for the two hundredth episode special.
And I just got the notification on YouTube yesterday that for my three year
anniversary. So we're on three years and it's a two hundredth episode. I'm
really looking forward to it. And I couldn't couldn't have done this without the
help from some of the people that's on this panel here today, and we
have the best round table on the internet the Internet has ever seen. Right
once again, So introducing first with Ladies First, of course, she's an
author, teacher, publisher, consultant, neuropathic physician, and researcher of consciousness.
You can find her work on her YouTube channel, Penny Kelly Penny Welcome
back to the show. It's good to see you here. Hi everybody out
there, and Hi all you guys, it's good to be with you again.
Thanks for being here. I really appreciate it. Up next, he's
a renowned filmmaker, author, scholar, writer, director, considered to be
a modern day Indiana Jones for his worldwide quest to find clues to mankind spiritual
destiny via ancient societies and artifacts. He's been featured on the History Channel and
has produced original content for guy A TV and is also my writer and producer
of our upcoming documentary jfk X. And it's probably the most famous person I've
ever hung out with. Jay Widner, Welcome back to the show. Thanks
for coming on. Yeah, congrats on. Yeah, thanks brother, I
appreciate that, thanks for being here. Next up, we have a gentleman
that I've really looked up to for a really long time. He has helped
me with a lot in the beginning. When I first started my show,
he brought me on his channel without even asking you who I was. He's
a philosopher, researcher, educator, spiritual teacher, and visionary on a call
in esoteric studies and many other topics he dives into on his YouTube channel.
Wayne Steiger, Welcome back to the show. It's good to see you,
my friend, honor my friend, and congrats man on the two hundred.
I see about another I don't know two thousand coming for you, but yeah,
and honored to be amongst such brilliant minds here. Thank you two thousand
oh, oh, my gosh, I don't know if I can handle this.
You're gonna be a lot of hears coming. And last, but definitely
not least, you know him, you love him. He's the creator of
adapt twenty thirty channel on YouTube. He discusses energetic changes on Earth as a
sun repiece of four hundred year cycle of low activity, affecting global crop production,
the economy, and everyone on the planet as society reset. So David
Dubain get to see my friend. Thanks for stopping in. How's it going?
Yeah, thanks for having me. And again, if you're going to
go for the two thousandth episode, that gives us thirty years, and I
really pray that we are all here in thirty years after these changes we're about
to experience. I'm an optimist pleasure for everybody to make it through this.
Truly it would, Yeah, it would be really wild. And well,
this crazy panel of amazing researchers and content producers doesn't break the internet here today.
I don't know what. Well, but it's been a little over a
year since we were all last together, and a lot has transpired. To
stay the least, we're a little a little bit of a halfway through the
year here, halfway through twenty twenty three. So I want to pose a
question to each of you. What should we be looking forward to happen in
the second half of twenty twenty three here? And I want to get everyone's
thoughts on this, But Penny, I want to start with you. Let's
let's jump to you first, so you can kind of set the tone for
our discussion here. What do you see happening for the rest of twenty twenty
three? More of the same or or what's going on there? I'm going
to say more of the same and a little bit more difficult, maybe a
lot more difficult. I see. This is something that I keep seeing again
and again. There's some kind of change in Washington, DC. It's big,
it's messy, and it's not and there's another change next year. So
that's the first thing. Another thing that I see is, I guess i'll
call it financial chaos and a deepening, big deepening of the anger that I'm
seeing, hearing and actually experiencing in a lot of people. Well, their
fuse is so short. It's like you don't create any sparks. So that's
uh that really concerns me. I see problems with health, We'll just say
with big health challenges, big health problems, and food, there's no there's
not enough food. There's not enough of anything, and people are trying to
keep food on the shelf, and a lot of people, a lot of
people are growing food. I think I just saw statistics where it was we
typically had thirty five percent of the population in the US growing food. Now
it's up to seventy five to eighty five percent. People are knowing something.
Maybe that's David's fault or David's accomplishment, David David influencing people to do the
right thing. Brother. Yeah, so that's it in a nutshell. I
mean, we can talk about those, but I'm really interested in what the
other guys are seeing. Jay, What do you see happening for the rest
of twenty twenty three? Well, try to be as careful as I can.
Here. I hear that we're going to be running out of pharmaceuticals here.
There's been a slowdown from China. We don't have factories anymore. And
there's a lot of evidence that even now they're putting placebos in because they can't
replace the drug. And that's going to break out here soon. And then
the pharmaceutical companies are going to have to come clean and say we haven't got
any of this stuff. It's going to be mostly painkillers horrmones. So anyone
who's taking hormones on a daily basis is going to be in sin serious trouble
as they as they go backwards. And it's kind of a quiet crisis right
now, but it's brewing and getting stronger. Wayne, what do you see
happening rust of twenty twenty three? I think my backgrounds in payment, so
um you know here, I guess it will be on Saturday, the Federal
Reserve will start going to what they call the system FED. Now it's the
first step that now leads to the collapse of the greenback, and it is
going to be the backup currency. Biden has already signed the executive orders for
such and I think for the American consumer it's it's going to be a real
wake up call. So and I think that within that it can it can
go a number of different ways. And finally, I think that here in
the United States is what we saw in Moscow over the weekend. I think
there's going to be a big shake up in our government. I think it's
going to really rock the three tenets of what our government is about. And
who knows what twenty four is going to be. Like, David, what
do you see happening in my friend? It depends on how each of those
events that everybody spoke about already gets or they wanted to amplify. So remember
that whom goatone get eruption last year ten percent moisture added to the atmosphere.
If you look at the depletion in the ozone down in the southern hemisphere,
it's orders of magnitude less or i should say, decrease than it normally is
even it's not even really, it's just very very beginning of the cusp of
the season, of the ozone whole season. Generally, the what you consider
the ozone hohole maximum would be somewhere in October or late September, early October,
where we're already getting near those numbers now if you trace back through the
last prior years. So the runaway ozone depletion event will be a global cascading
event that will be used push and pull in conjunction with all of these other
things. In addition to like penning what you said with the food to explain
away the crop losses, to explain away hyperinflation, and it'll be pushed in
and pulled out and reinserted and blended in with other events to get the maximum
fear out of it. Unfortunately, but you already see where it's going.
Do you think that we have to worry about natural disasters or manufactured natural disasters
because we know that they have the ability to create storms. They can pretty
much control the weather however they want, Dave, do you think that we
have to worry about that at any point at the end of this year?
Most technologies could be used to amplify events in case the human domain gets out
of control. And when I say that, you know there's cause react solution
effect if the human does not obey and the directive of where it's supposed to
be pushed with the stimulus, if humanity awakes up for a better point and
starts to go the other direction, like whoa uncontrollable thought that amplification and extremes
in whatever it would be forest fires, volcanic eruption, twisting of weather,
and the jet streams of cloud cells, in addition to the moisture that's in
the atmosphere and where everything's already cavitating and tweaking along twenty south and twenty north
anyway, I think there'll be that blend. If humanity can't be controlled,
it'll be put through extremes to get people to stop thinking about and fear for
their lives. And then you know you're going to swing the pendulum this way
to survival, and then they'll pull you back in the middle of the narrative.
I keep seeing this again and again. When humanity starts to think for
itself, something other, much larger rolls in on top to deflect or distract.
Is a better way, I guess, can I interject in this writer
to that perfect Yes, we are this generation of humanity which we're all part
of. It's established. We are now witnessing the magnetic excursion of our poles.
I mean the south pole is now almost to the Indian Ocean. The
north magnetic pole will be in Russia. I mean it's accelerating its movement.
And the thing that when we talk about weather and we talk about crops,
we talk about everything else, is that we never talk about what magnetism,
electro magnetic pools of our whole, of our magnetosphere, how that upsets everything
weather is concerned. I mean, if you're potentially talking no one is witnessing
something like this. I mean you're talking potentially an upheaval and the human and
they go on with that. Continue that thought of the magnetic hemispheres of the
brain in the human as well being effected by that same polarity change. Good
point. I think it's the cause of the mental illness increase lately. Is
the magnetic pole excursion. I think it's causing the wiring somehow is getting scrambled,
especially people who don't you know, aren't conscious of what they're doing,
and don't meditate and try to get themselves somewhat sedated. If they let themselves
get out of control, which they are now doing, they actually go completely
out of control. Now, is that a cause for the anger we're seeing
in people? I mean, the brutality and the nuts it's crazy. Yeah.
I think it's magnetic fields interfering with the brain function. It would go
even further than that. The consciousness is frequency, Okay, so the frequency
that your brain operates that determines a kind of response you can have and the
kind of perception that you that your brain will allow. But the big factor
in that big factor is nutrition. Without nutrition, you can't maintain frequencies.
That's why we eat, because food is frequency, and there's a lot of
waste that gets produced just to be able to extract a few frequencies by tuning.
But without food, and without good food, we're going down. We
have been going down for a long time, and I think that we're headed
into a crisis. And all the pressures that we were all just mentioning talking
about add to that. When you're under stressed, your nutritional banks or supply
in the body are used up at four times their normal rate, and if
you're not replacing at four times you're normal, then your perception becomes entirely skewed.
Depression, anger, of irritation. You keep pressing that button, it
goes Eventually. There's only two things that the brain is capable of, and
that's pain and pleasure. Everything is a version of those two things. And
if you start pressing that pain button, which they've done a lot of research
with that kind of thing, down the road very quickly, actually not down
the road, you end up with rage, and following that is temporary insanity,
and temporary insanity is a protective stage for consciousness so that the human intemporary
insanity doesn't know that he hurts someone. We are geared love not hurt one
another, so we're headed in a really difficult direction. I agree absolutely in
it almost seems like it's an inhuman type of control structure that's happening, but
not inhuman in the way that people think that it actually is. I don't
think that it's an actual extraterrestrial race that is controlling us or the Earth.
I think that it's a consciousness that is possibly in control and they're able to
transfer. This might sound a little woo woo, but it's just what I've
been really thinking about here recently. It's a consciousness that's been transferred into a
human like shell, like an avatar. In order for that consciousness to walk
around in our reality here, they wouldn't be able to just come here from
a different planet and be physical beings and walk around here. They would have
to have some kind of dull body avatar that looks very similar to us.
And that's where the whole thought and the idea and the concept comes from.
With you know, people seeing that they're already amongst us, they're already here,
well, they probably are but they look exactly like us. They're they're
the same entity, they just have a different conscious level. Me and David
were talking about this, uh yesterday. What's your guys thoughts on that?
Wow, Well, let me say one thing and then I want to hear
what the other guys say. There are many There is at least three or
four dozen different races of people here with us already. They're all over the
cosmos there. We're not the only ones. So let's just say that we
agree on that to start with, and then I think the bigger thing that
really is important is consciousness is catchy. When you have frequencies that come into
contact with one another, they either harmonized, they get into constructive interference or
destructive interference, or they end up in what's called they produce binaural frequencies,
and those frequencies then interact and produce trinaural and quad neural and quinaural. It's
we don't understand yet consciousness, or most people do not understand how it works.
So if you have a bad apple, everybody in that family is going
to be similar, have similar responses and attitudes, etc. Consciousness is we
copy, That's how we learn. We copy. So there are people here
that are really destructive. It's not just ets. We're all from somewhere else,
but there's a whole slew of good people here working their bunds off,
trying to get us to wake up and responsibility and step into our own power.
So, David, what do you think about this issue? Do you
think that we are being controlled by an extraterrestrial race like a lot of people
seem to believe that we are, or is it something different? Is it
a consciousness, because it's hard to believe that for some people that it's just
human beings doing this to human beings, you know. So we'll step back
into frequency for a second here, and with the changes in the frequency that
are happening on the Sun and truly across our solar system, I'm wondering what
that frequency resonance is. It changes and our perception changes in the brain that
things that were not in our visual field of view suddenly become visible. And
this is why the programming of get ready for these things that are not really
of either sex or being programmed into us because the field of you, we
might suddenly start to see something one days, it's always here. The frequencies
are layered in, but we're just not tuned into that one. And suddenly,
boom, we start to see these entities that we're always here, but
we just weren't in tune with them, but suddenly we are. So how
do you explain that to the masses that you're gonna start to see something that's
not it's sort of similar to what you did. It is, it's not,
it is. I mean, I really think there's a lot of things
that are going to go through visually and auditorially, so what you're going to
start to hear things also, So this frequency is moving through and these changes
in our sun, the magnetic field on our planet are changing. I think
what we hear, literally what we hear and what we see are also going
to change from what was considered established norms through the last say, fifty one
hundred, one hundred and fifty years until now. I think we're going to
come into some rapid changes with the magnetic field, and at the same time,
there's going to be rapid changes in what we see here and observe around
us. So explain that to the global populace without haunting a panic. No,
that's absolutely exactly right. You can take infrared pictures of these entities that
are in the sky around us, and I frequently do, and there are
there are literally trillions of entities that are invisible to us all around us all
the time. You live at the bottom of a sea of a plasma which
is extends outward even past the orbit of the Moon and h and it contains
all these millions, trillions of entities who you know, some notice us,
some don't care about us, and some notice us in a bad way.
And we got to be careful of that too. So I look at it
more of a dimensional plane, um and that people mistake encounters with these invisible
entities, so sometimes you can see them as aliens and all this other stuff.
Wayne, what do you think about the this UFO and extraterrestrial narrative that's
going around right now? I mean, this is going to play a role
in the coming years, possibly even play a role in the twenty twenty four
presidential election. How what's your thoughts on Because it's a threatened narrative, right,
it's a controlled opposition, uh CIA, threatened narrative that they're trying to
play on humanity. So what's your thoughts on that? I think what I'm
focused in you know, what I teach on my channel we you know,
I teach basically about you know, demons, angels, these these unseen beings
that have controlled our consciousness for thousands of years. I mean, that's what
the Bible is written about. It's not written about physical man as much as
it's written about these unseen beings having influence in control upon us. So in
one aspect of it, we're very well versed in that perception of alien life.
What's an angel, what's a demon? But what I think we're seeing
today is that, because I come out of fifty years of Christianity, is
that we're seeing a collapse of a belief system. And if there is such
a disclosure, then it's going to challenge that perception because there's a lot of
people, and I speak of here in America that truly believe we're in the
tribulation. I mean that that's kind of the the underlying theme in the churches
is that what we're witnessing is Daniel his prophecy of the seventy weeks come to
pass. So it's it's really where cognitive distance becomes into play, because there's
going to be some people who just can't handle this. And I think that
that's where you see this complete shutdown. Jay. We've been keeping a really
close eye on the CIA Pentagon disclosure narrative, more specifically the threat narrative.
And there's this new guy, Krish, I think his name's Krish. That's
a new whistleblower that seems to just regurgitate and repeat what everyone's been seeing for
years now, just repackage. What do you think is the end goal with
this CIA RAN disclosure because it's it's never what it seems to be. Well,
I think that it's I think we have to understand that they've gone too
far the elite, and they can't go back now because if they go back
or they let go of power, there will be a complete examination of what
they were doing and they will all go to jail. So they can't relet
power. They're not going to relet power. And I think this is a
psyop um done. I can't prove that. It's just my opinion. I
think this is a psyop to throw us off. That guy browed whatever he
is. I'm sorry, man, he used really u loose language. He
was never specific about anything, and um, I didn't buy anything that he
said, I thought, I thought he himself was a psi op and um,
and so I think that you know, they're they're they're planning to raise
the anti and he wanted. And so what they have is eighteen poker tables
going and each one they're going to choose to play at is their next game.
And so this is now their alien game that they're playing. Not saying
there isn't aliens or anything like that, I'm just saying that this thing reeks
of a MK Ultra style. Jay, I agree. I mean, we
know the Air Force has been running him Ultra programs for a really long time,
and the Project Blue Beam stuff was actually an MK Ultra subproject subliminally put
the holographic image directly into the subjects head. Now, David, I'm not
sure if you've been, uh, I'm sure you actually have been paying attention
to the UFO narratives. But it's basically been co opted by the CIA,
and they hire intermediaries to give them give the public information to them, you
know, to disseminate them information that they're giving to the public, and they
get to basically be a whistleblower, even though they just regurgitating other other people's
information, And now they can pretty much classify any anomalies in the sky as
UFOs. Right, unidentified objects. Foreign satellites can now be UFOs. Weather
balloons are now UFOs. Space trash can be UFOs. I mean you can
throw a trash can up into the air and take a super blurry photo of
it and it's a UFO. Right. So where do you think that they're
heading with all of this talk, in this ramping up of UFOs and extraterrestrials.
David, free energy. I wouldn't say free energy. It's fuel lists
generators and magnetic motors. To unveil that technology without telling everybody. Oh,
by the way, we put those patents in the closet from the eighteen eighties
and the eighteen nineties really worked on it, when Warden Cliff Tower was around,
and Marconi got into the wireless technologies as well, and doctor Brown with
the anti gravitics in the nineteen sixties. Sorry we kept that from you.
That was from military application. But because as Wayne had referenced, tier,
we are going to flip over to the FED now. But at the same
time, there's a new overnight interest rate called so for SFR that's also going
to be the new benchmark rates between what was the Liebor, which is a
London interbank overnight lending rate. But between that there's about two one hundreds of
a percent of difference on those somewhere around seven quadrillion dollars in derivative contracts.
So to reset an entire system A, they don't match B. They want
to take everybody to universe of basic income. And the only way they're going
to do that after the planet gets completely bankrupt and reset is bring out free
energy, and that way you could still have the things that you would need
in your home. But they're not going to come out and say, by
the way, we shelved all this for one hundred plus years, and we
made you go mind rare earth mentals and put up these junkie solar panels,
when we could have had something half the side of this desk in your home
that could have run that from the nineteen tens and we would have never had
to put a copper cable above our heads. Which when you also talked about
the inhabitation of a consciousness in that, I'm wondering if there was super connected
in the rollout of everything, But I really think it's not going to be
soft dist closure about yeah, there's other beings out there in the skies.
It's going to be about trying to bring that tech that we've developed over the
last one hundred and twenty years into the home without having too many questions asked,
and get everybody on this universal basic income and you will be behoving to
those generators or those ones who are manufacturing it if your social credit score is
good enough. And you can see how this whole twisted world is moving forward
here. And I think that's really what it's about. It's not about saying
that there's somebody from Martians are coming back or whatnot. And Wayne, you
raise your hands. I saw you with it, so what are you going
to go at? No? I mean it this seems like a simulation.
I mean, because it comes to one end, and that is total control
of us required reading in high school George Orwell nineteen eighty four. Who'd ever
thought that we'd actually see it and we did it to ourselves. I think
that's what this internet is about. I mean, I was, you know,
termed sixty eight this last week. I was one of those guys that
helped develop this thing called the Internet. We didn't back in the nineties,
we didn't know what it could do. And now here nearly twenty five years,
I look back and I think, my god, what do we create
here? What do we unleash? And if it wasn't us, then consciousness
is energy. Energy is never going to go wasted. Then that means someone
is either cultivating this or using this for a purpose. And it just seems
like anywhere you look today it's just more bad news and it seems to be
pushing us towards you know, I go back to Daegel dot com when Degle
is out there. You know, are we about on the precipice of something
that's going to really impact humanity in twenty twenty four, because if you go
by Deegle the United States, we'll see nearly a two hundred million reduction in
population. GDP will be down seventy one percent. Is this what all these
shortages are about? Is this this merely a precursor of something that they have
to have in place when this thing is finally unlatched. I don't know,
there's brilliant minds here. I'd be in a word, yes, that's what's
going on. And it's all perfectly triangulated to happen exactly in the sequence that
they want. And there are I don't know about you guys, but there's
a lot of people in my community that are dying in the last month,
five or six months. It's really increased. And it's not just disease.
It's all sorts of weird accidents and strange things and why did you do that?
You know, and and and also increase in mental illness. So I
think that that is all coupled together with like you know, the food shortages
and then the prescription drug shortages, which I believe is going to really drive
the mental problem to skyrocket. When the when, the when the drug stock
so um, you know, it's time to go local, and time to
take care of your family in your community and probably stay close to home.
This is antidoteal to that. Jay, My wife works in the hospice industry.
It's exploding. And here's the frightening statistic. A they're having a difficult
time finding the type of drugs that help many people when they die, particularly
in hospice, it's it's usually got a disease that's ravaging their body, can't
get the pain medication. The other thing that they're seeing is the reduction in
age for the need for hospice services. So there is something taking place.
Um, no one wants to address it. I don't think anyone would know
how to begin to address it. But it's happening, you know. Just
as a side, I highly suggested everybody start growing poppies. You don't need
to do anything to them. You just make tea out of them, and
there that's an excellent pain killer. It's totally legal to grow poppies, and
it's totally legal to crush them up at the end of the year and make
tea out of them, and it will be the pain killer of the future.
All I'm saying. Yeah. Wild lettuce as well, that's the one
you really want to know. That's an old chair keep pain killer. A
lot of people understand wild lettuce. Again, it's legal, it doesn't really
give you like a high, and it's non addictive. It's just a pain
sedative. Wild lettuce. You can grow it anywhere. I'll guarantee you're going
to find it somewhere growing in a field near you. Let me let me
point out something that has never really been pointed out. I'm really good friends
with a medical investigator, and she said to me that the hospitals and the
doctors stopped giving out painkillers at which was about seven years ago now, at
the same exact time that the fountain all began flooding in So that was an
interesting statistic. I hadn't really thought about it. Wow, you know one
of the things that I avoided saying, but I'm going to bring it up.
One of the things I see repeatedly is that there's some kind of flood
flooding, big flooding, not over the whole US like the solar flash would
indicate, but some sort of like area flooding. I cannot see where that
is. I don't know why it doesn't become clear what's under that water,
but it's there's a lot of stuff floating in it, and it looks like
it's on a coastline, so it's and it looks like it's in the US.
I think. I think you writer said, are we looking at some
sort of natural disaster? And I think we are. And maybe it's volcanoes,
maybe it's earthquakes or something. Something really really difficult is coming our way.
On top of what I think is looks like civil war next year across
the whole US. Yeah, that's why they that's why they don't care about
the debt or anything like that, because they believe. The elites believe,
and I can show you exact evidence that there's some kind of disaster coming.
They believe it's a solar disaster and they're prepping for it. But they've been
doing it ever since nineteen fifty seven. Eight. They put together the Geophysical
Year, and they've sent people out all over the Earth to do measurements and
everything. And they came back and Nasha was created the next year, and
the deep underground basis would begun the next year, and you can just see
the traces of the whole thing. And they discovered that there was a periodic
solar disaster that causes massive fires, and it's periodic every twelve thousand years.
Yeah, there's actually more than that. There's a six thousand year event every
six thousand. There's another one every three thousand, there's another one every twenty
five hundred, but the big one is every twelve. So we're due because
the countdown is here. I know, you know, I've do this thing
called the Language of Energy, and it's similar to its symbolism basically, and
I understand the green energy and the language of the birds and the language of
energy is the same thing. And I keep looking at Okay, what does
that tell us about what's coming? And basically it says you don't know anything
about what goes on in a natural system. We have wasted our time with
all kinds of entertainment and silly stuff that doesn't really do anything, instead of
developing consciousness and understanding how do we get off the planet or get inside?
And do we want to get inside if the continents are roaming around the surface,
ramming around? Oh so, yeah, you know. I used to
be heavily into Nabiru, the whole you know, you know, ninth planet,
the thing coming around. And I do a lot of meditation and did
it, you know, ten years ago. And I was meditating one day
and it dawned on me that if any of this is true, you know,
the whole planet coming in and destruction of the Earth, we're still talking
the death of billions of people here. And I often wonder how to consciousness
absorbed that much death in such a small constricted time. Um, it has
to have reverberation as above, so below below so above. Um. I
was talking on my channel this this morning that if if you follow that there
there there must be an upheaval already taking place in the heavens. Oh well,
when I was writing my book of Monument to the End of Time,
one thing that we kept looking into mythologies about eschatology, and one thing we
kept coming up against was that somehow, if you're alive at the end of
the world, that was a good thing, and it was there. There
was an Irish quote, may you be alive at the end of the world,
um, a Celtic phrase, and all over in India and North American
Indians, we kept finding this idea that the apocalypse was the mass death of
everybody. But it was somehow this incredible spiritual of that. And it's unclear
as to what that really means. I'm just telling you what I discover.
You know, looking at mythology a mass ascension event and after death ascension.
Well, no, it's like an alchemical experiment. There has to be enough
of souls for this thing to work, and they're willing to blow everything on
getting enough things here for it to happen. And um, they're perfectly kind
of obvious in their writings that that's what they're doing. They're trying to make
a new human, and that's what they're saying. They're perfectly clear about what
their intentions are. I did perfect no, no, no, no.
I was just saying that five years ago I did a video that Earth was
being terriformed. Yeah, yep, And they got the new tenant. It's
ready to move in and we ain't on the lease. And that's a perfect
segue into the next thing that I wanted to talk about, because that is
Ai and this right. Could I stop you for a second before I jump
in there, Go ahead, David. The research and study that I've been
doing shows that speaking of these longer time cycles, if we go back to
seventy nine a d gas giants form, what is perceived from Earth is a
perfect square in the sky with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
Yeah, the Earth will pass through this where the Sun will be on one
side of us in this second magnetic field of interlooping of the gas giants will
We're going to pass through that. That will occur in October of twenty twenty
four. The actual dates October twenty third, twenty twenty four. Nobody can
really explain what this will do to us as a human again, we'll come
back to that frequency and a brain function. Don't know what's going to happen
to the top two miles of the crust, but apport according to you know,
those who follow global equifaction events and things called mud floods or you know,
reset you can back into Tartaria would be a good example. A lot
of lost history, especially across China, things buried. But as we swing
through this dual magnetic field, there's going to be some repercussion and then you
know the scariest thing. Okay, that's set a and we're going to come
through that dual magnetic field, squeaking right through the middle of it. But
as we pass out of that, coming in to say April, somewhere around
the April of twenty twenty five, as we come in front of the sun,
we're the only thing in front of the Sun. All of the gas
giants are behind us, the Sun's behind us. Everything's pulling whatever space debris
straight into the face of our planet until we come backed around to the safety
behind the sun once again. So between what would be liquil faction events and
magnetic field disturbances. We don't know what's going to happen with the ionosphere or
some kind of electrical conduit between the Sun, Earth and then our crust.
Could that be disrupted. There's a lot of unknowns that would be happening at
this time, but electrical ferocity is one guaranteed thing to increase, like the
electrical storms when you heard in the past people would run through for their lives
when they saw it gathering on the horizon. I think we're going to be
at that point again. When you even see a storm system coming in,
you're going to batten down the hatches and trying to get into the basement.
I'm glad you brought that up because one of the mysteries of the Cross of
hen Day, which I wrote two books about, is the exploding sun panel
has four square around it. A four looked like flames or like planets on
fire. And we've always wondered what the significance of the square for the four
different objects around the exploding sun were, And I think that that what may
be the signal that that's when the time is Yeah, there's not going to
be a complete nullification of the magnetic field, and either of those will be
a transference of it. So they got the potentiality from one body to another
body and a magnetic field. Remember, these are going to be looping toroid
fields, so nothing's going to be linear shooting across space. It's going to
be a looping field. And from the projections that are the two looping fields
come in and they overloop on themselves and something called the block wall, and
we're gonna apparently pass through that, and when it goes in, we're going
to get into a zero magnetic field state on our planet for a anywhere between
seconds minutes, not even an hour. It's going to be just seconds to
minutes. As a slooping field comes over and interloops on itself, we're going
to pass straight through that and we'll be out of it as quickly as we're
into it. But it's going to be a significant event. Now, what
will happen with our poles? What will happen again with our magnetic fields in
our brains? What's gonna happen? Yeah, with our minds? I mean
the human cosmic rays already improven drives us nuts. It's why we can't do
space travel. Well, wait a minute, and that's um let me say
something about October twenty third, twenty twenty four. Okay, so Kundalaney,
when you have a full blown Kundalaney event, what that is in the body
is it's an electromagnetic event that moves up through you and it's roaring you.
I mean, it's like a jet engine. It's like standing under Niagara falls.
It is it's a force that allows you to momentarily because it only takes
a few seconds. Just like you were saying, David, you have an
opportunity at that point to be completely rewired. Your entire brain and your entire
body. Your chemistry, your hormones, all of your neurotransmitters, everything gets
rewired in that moment, unless you're in a bad mood, in which case
you degenerate instead of take a step up. So I think, personally,
the possibility that we move through that looping whatever it is those two toroids,
or we get a shot directly from the Sun or all of those cosmic rays
come in, you have to be ready up here mentally to reprogram yourself at
a higher level, and you have the own pot to do it at that
moment. So I think we should be talking about how do we get to
that place where we're sassy enough to say, you know, this is what
I'm doing, this is how I am, this is what I'm becoming.
And you just keep holding that until when that energy hits you know it.
You do know it because it increases your heart rate. I think my heart
rate would go up to somewhere around two hundred beats a minute. Back then
your blood pressure, the heat in the body. You know, parts of
the body could melt off. They have in the past, not for me,
but for others. An arm or a leg, or the person bursts
into flame. It's called idiopathic. They don't know where it comes from.
While it comes from, you have a you have a massive charge moving through
the body and at short circuits and start the fire, so you burn up
from the inside out. But if you're ready, or if you're in this
place of great love, that's the magic key to being able to take that
energy and revamp yourself and move from third dimensional being to fourth or fifth or
even sixth. It's a real bifurcation of the species it is. I ask
you, do you think that the changing magnetic field is associated with this coming
square of the large gas giants? Figured it might be what's causing it.
I think that adds to it a square symbolically, that is ther Firth stability.
Your first area where that you can step into and count on the energy
is circulating in a particular way. If you're directing those energies, yeah you
can, but tryang all. The pyramid is the other one that allows you
to route energy. But I think we live in boxes for a reason.
I think we're moving to the sphere for a reason. But I think we
have this massive opportunity coming at us to use those energies and that all of
those things together are a factor. I don't think anything can be different or
it won't work. So I hope that makes sense. Yeah, Jay,
if you lector or anybody, I put the images of the twenty twenty four
alignment in the chat box, so feel free to look at that, and
also a penny a dovetail on that you know, Aquarius is the only if
you look at the star maps from the fifteen and sixteen hundreds, Aquarius is
the only one that shows the actual Brooklyn current flow out to one of the
eyes of Pisces and one of the fishing Pisces. The other twelve zodiactors,
nothing coming out, but it is so clean that the pouring out of the
water Bearer showing some sort of Brooklyn current that flows directly from the star system
itself in Aquarius somewhere the seed point. The Chinese put the seed point of
human consciousness up in the in the Big Dipper. That's why they cult of
the Big Dipper is such a big thing. They still worship that in the
Emperor's Mandate of the heavens. But that pouring out, that Brooklyn current goes
right into Pisces and is interesting how we are exiting out of you know,
these different symbols that you see through. What are we exiting out of the
fish? Was the Jesus Christ with the fish the era of the birth of
Christ coming through and then you know, exiting out into the water bearer.
But how do those two connected and why is it so symbolic right now that
we're in this I think the water bearer that's the really water. It's more
of an energy flow. And want to know they couldn't explain it what the
water tipping out, but I think flows of energies or what that was exactly.
Yeah, if you if you read some of the ancient work they talk
about the great Ocean and talking about the ocean of space. It's full of
the energy, currents and waves, just like on the regular ocean. So
that's um it's misunderstood. It's not about water. It's about the pouring out.
The aquarius is the pouring out of massive amounts of currents and waves of
frequency onto whatever the humanity that exists at the time. So, Dave,
do you think that this alignment could cause a Brooklyn current to go between the
Sun and these gas giants. Yeah, something like this, there's going to
be a transference of magnetism. Now you notice that looks like the top of
the cabala. Also if you were to strip and just have the top of
the cabala. So I believe that's the beginning of the cycle marking. Now
you have to spin through the rest and find the bottom segment of it.
We're coming with the square on the bottom with the triangle that you know points
downward on that, and then that would be the completion of the cycle.
I said, it's not just you've got You've got the sun at chippereth Um,
and that's exactly where the sun is the Tree of life yeah. Right,
you've got the tree of life right there, and I worked the bottom
completion of it. I haven't really gone out and spun out in the diagrams
that far. I'm too busy growing my vegetables right now for you. No,
that's no joke. Like I want to see through this event. I
want to see the plasma displays in the skies. My whole goal is to
stay alive through this so I can witness it. I know I'm married there,
growing my own food and working my butt off to really put things together
and help other people. I don't want to be the only one here.
So you get a great tan and a good workout. Yeah, that's true.
The bottom of the cabala would technically be earth, right, That's that's
the foundation stone, is his Earth, so so that's where we sit on
the line. It's there so you can see that there could be something significant
happened in the last time. Just for fyi, the last time that this
same alignment occurred was seventy nine a D and it was one degree of arc
off. So it's not exactly the same as seventy D. It's one degree
arc difference than it was then. So if you're looking at arc minutes through
the heavens, there three hundred and sixty degree minutes one minute back, So
three hundred and sixty cycles back would bring us back to seventy nine. But
we're talking what three hundred and sixty thousand years or produx No, it would
be seven hundred and twenty thousand years through one loop of that. Wow.
Well, this is the first time I have heard of anyone talking about the
fact of the Earth and transition in the center of this where the Sun will
be in a neutral state of magnetism. Um, yeah, that that's significant.
I mean you've got the consciousness of Ever, how many souls will be
on this planet at that time? I mean, wow, that's significant.
Like to get more into this, Yeah, Well, then what happens to
the people that don't have souls, that are that are inorganic beings? Which
ones are are no longer going to be here? That inorganic ones are going
to be destroyed or the organic ones are going to be destroyed? Well,
what's the soul? How do you define what's of soul? Consciousness? Consciousness?
Right, So everything that exists, every form, is made of consciousness.
It's inherent, it's it's it's the intent within the signature of your frequencies
is the signature of your consciousness. And how do you get a consciousness though
you would have to be an organic being. I don't believe that everyone has
a consciousness. I don't believe that everyone has ay what you would call a
soul, not a person, a human consciousness that fits what years is twenty
twenty three in the United States of America. There are other forms of consciousness,
lots of them, stones, plants, animals, planets, just the
air, fire water, all those are forms of consciousness and they can be
communicated with. So to say that that's an inorganic being, you know,
I think that those kinds of definitions are i'll say old science, where science
is catching up but has a long way to go, a long way.
They don't understand the connections, they don't understand the natural world. We really
have a lot to learn. Say it nicely, We have a lot to
learn, and I think that's exciting. I'm very excited about the future.
I absolutely believe any of that, you know, plants and trees and everything
that's organic has a consciousness. I just think that it's plausible that there are
people that are walking around that does not have a consciousness. No, if
they're conscious, it's just not the kind of consciousness that we have. Okay.
Even a robot has consciousness, but that would be a synthetic consciousness,
no real organic consciousness. It well, okay, so we can talk about
levels of consciousness and consciousness signatures. It doesn't have the you know, the
signature of a writer le or a Wayne. Computers will never have consciousness.
Never a I will never have consciousness. You need to have a body to
have consciousness. We'll see that, won't. I mean, I'm a program
grammer, forty years of programming. I know how computers work, the ones
ins, and they're ever going to figure anything out beyond whatever you program them
to figure out. Never extrapolate into consciousness realities. It's not going to happen.
And that's why I'm not worried about AI becoming conscious. I'm worried about
bad people using AI can reasons. Yeah, what consciousness is frequency and that
machine, that computer has some frequency in it, any frequencies. A computer
has probably six seven hundred different things with different frequencies going, chips and passadors
and all this makes up a computer. Love giving off. That's why you
got to be careful around a computer because you're getting exprommenting weird frequencies. I
know, yeah, mine crashes regularly. But I think we have to expand
our definition of consciousness. Are we talking about human consciousness? Hang on here,
I forgot to turn my phone off. Or are we talking about some
other kind of consciousness? There's only one kind consciousness? And when when the
consciousness is in a dog's dog consciousness is when it's in a cat, it's
cat consciousness. When it's in a human, it's human consciousness. And that's
where instincts come from. It's why the cat knows what to do without ever
having a parent around to teach it, and um and so. Consciousness is
this multifaceted thing that's different within each organism. That's why you have to have
a body to be conscious. Well, if you're going to have human consciousness,
you have to have a human body. Yeah, okay, I agree
with that. What do you think about this concept? Do you think that
every human on the planet how's a consciousness? I don't think that the same
soul or originate and little anecdote to this, you know f Paul Wilson,
who I think is brilliant science fiction writer in his book Night World, the
thing that hit the Earth was was basically, there is a consciousness, but
it's not how we perceive it. There's two great consciousness. And because there
was a really bad dude about ready to take and Jay I say, you
shake your head. If you read the book Night World, yeah, it's
I recommend it. Tell your whole audience writer, you really should read that
book Night World. Then you're gonna get hooked into the repairman Jack. But
my point is this whole discussion for the last hour is that this is it
seems like we're being herded down into a funnel that represents death for us,
death for a lot of people. And I don't know in my spirit that's
wrong. There's there's something, there's a purpose. Are we about to be
sacrificed? Is this what we're talking about? The sacrificed of the of galactic
proportion? If not, then this is insane. Yeah, it's a it's
a a ritual sacrifice, that's what's going on. And it's by a group
of people who have a follow a spiritual dogment, one that you and I
probably don't agree with, but it's there, and um, you know the
older again, and the more I look into it, the more I realize
that there there is an extremely nefarious force loose on this planet and um,
and it seeks to control our very soul and um, I don't know,
don't know what else to say. I mean, it's I looked looked at
it very closely, and that's my only conclusion. And it really doesn't care
about life either, by the way it likes death. It is a death
cult, as Alex Jones calls it, and I think that that is exactly
right. It's a cult that worships death, thank you. Right. Alex
Jones has been to write about a lot of stuff, and he was most
recently right about the frogs, which is crazy. Everyone one of him for
the frogs, but he was right about the frogs. Things are crazy.
But Dave, how do you think that AI is going to play a role
in our future? I mean, we already have AI chats, AI rendered
photos, AI rendered videos. I feel like it's really going to blur the
lines between reality and fantasy, as if it already hasn't blurred the lines enough
already. So should we be afraid of AI? Dave? If you look
at it the way that it's supposed to be taken to make everything as fake
as it can be. So then they'll need to be human validators to sit
next to you to say, yes, I'm a human validated as a human,
and I saw this person, David, as a human make the content,
so it's approved by me as a human validator, that David made the
content as a human, and this is validated as a human made piece of
content. This is the direction it's going to need to go, because it's
not going to take much longer, you know, even by when we talk
October of twenty twenty four here, it'll be so good the deep fakes that
you won't even know what's happening, as you know, comets and oars and
said comments, but bullides and meteorites come rolling in. What's the news?
What's real? What's fake? Did Ellwood hit over in Paris? So something
hit here? Well you even know because the newscasters will look real. I
mean they did that fake thing with the pentagod getting hit like a couple of
weeks ago and a drop stock market in Asia when it was still nighttime here.
I really still have Biden's tape by the way, Yeah, where he
stuck his hand right through the blue screen. That stuff. The freak was
that about? Through the microphone. It made a piece of content. That's
where it's going. Disruption everywhere in terms of business, and we just being
disrupted at the same time. I'm sorry, Penny, I just last thought
here. I can't believe that AI is rolling out at the same time to
disrupt everything that we know in the human domain. At the same time everything's
being disrupted in the climate domain and the magnetic field domain. And it's all
overlapping on top of this series of complete disruptions, a scatter pattern and interference
pattern, just to keep everybody distracted from roots really going on, because we
could all say no and the death cault would stop. Now, this is
like being at the Roulette wheel and it keeps on hitting double zero. Yeah,
you're going wait a minute. You know, it's been fifty seven times.
It's been double zero, you know. I think that's what all those
consciousnesses are here to do, is to come together and become a force to
make something happen that we decide. And that's why they're trying to make sure
that there's not too many of us around because consciousness his power as we as
we figure out everything, which is what we're all doing, they throw interference
patterns at us in a constant way, and that's what's going on. That's
when I think that the uh, the disclosure alien thing is it's just another
interference pattern to stop us one more time from because they're really afraid of us
all realizing what's going on at the same moment. And they they think they're
prepared for it, but I don't think they are. And so we have
to be ready to defend our turf, but not attack anyone. We have
to, um, you know, find ways, like like Davis said about
free energy, we need to we need to create our own forms of energy
because what they're giving us is not going to work. So they're creating a
gigantic thing of chaos to stop us from having our consciousness fully awakened. We
can I ask a qu question on that, what would be more destructive a
nuclear war, nuclear exchange, or two ais going to war with each other?
Like what would the repercussions be of two ais going to war with each
other? And what destruction they could wreak across humanity here versus actually simply dropping
a thermonuclear warhead on somewhere. Which one would be more destructive? Oh,
conflicting AI by far? Yeah, that's gonna say they need the nuke would
be the merciful. I can get it over in a flash, you know.
Yeah, that's gonna prevent one AI from starting a war with another AI.
What of course they're gonna they're gonna have superiority thing where you know you
got that fact wrong, and now only you got that fact wrong, and
you can start an argument and ask for sure going to happen. I mean,
I did the GTP with barred Google's artificial AI, and I gotta tell
you, I was somewhat amazed at its perception of spirituality. It has a
pretty good handle on this concept of what we term as humans as God.
Yeah, at what point does it start out thinking us? Yeah, but
it's just going through literature and picking it up dingo. That's exactly what it's
done. It's not really coming up with any concepts. I got in an
argument with chat GPT about the moon landing. I asked how they could take
pictures on the moon without fogging the film and they said, well, Kodak
altered the film, and I said, no, they didn't. I brought
out the statement from Kodak they they didn't alter the film, and we got
in a serious argument went on for like three hours, and finally at the
end it concluded a kid, you not that perhaps the spokesperson for Kodak did
not understand what the word altered means. That's where I was like, Wow,
weseltled its way out of it. Well, it's really funny how this
really progressed because a lot of people in the community. We're talking about,
Oh, I'll never let AI run the show, I'll never do anything with
AI, and then it seems like overnight it became a thing and everyone's using
it. Everyone's using chat, GPT, everyone's using these AI generated images and
these AI generated videos. So it really shows not very much backbone from us
as a human species. There you got, Alexa, You don't have to
worry about it. From my Hollywood friends that were less than a year away
from you being able to sit down at your computer and Okay, I want
the lead actor look sort of like Tom Cruise and John Wayne. I want
the lead woman to look a little bit Joan Crawford, and then pretty soon
you've got I want this to be the plot and it will generate an entire
two hour movie for you. And they say that there's a company called Navidia,
which is one year away from this. I've invested in Navidia voice to
video. It's called Yeah. Well, and I know this is maybe it's
tied to it. But you think about Sophia. She's been granted citizenship into
a country that's Ai, And you know, this all looks like it's to
diminish humankind because now they've got artificial robots that is your perfect mate. You
don't have to interact with another human. I mean that's a terrible mistake because
we come here to get together with one another in order to learn, in
order to be challenged, in order to make a core change. I mean
that's really what it's all about here. So that really what it's about stopping
is the core change right there by introducing the robotics into the human ingom.
But you got a younger generation, well, Wright or your generation is more
adaptive to having an artificial mate as opposed to actually because that's what they do
already. Everything is online, yeah yeah, And then that whenever this technology
is just being released to the public, how long have they secretly been using
the technology all along, because it seems like every time that anything is released
for public use, they've already been using it for years and years and years
beforehand. So then that makes you rethink everything that you've seen. Well,
I wrote, they already created a full length movie like Jay was talking about
that they're going to be able to do and next year have they already done
that in the past? How much of the music have they artificial? We
created It's called nine one one. That was what was one of their their
test things where they created fake things going on and everybody thought it was real.
It was just a movie, and and they've been doing it for a
long time, so we're yeah, they just repeated that with the whole Brigageine
Revolved in Russia. That was all fake, the dog wagon, the tail.
It's like, I've seen this before. You remember that this whole thing
started in Elizabethan, England, um after when the Fire of London burned down
everything, and then the people that settled that area they saw the Shakespearean plays
and they realized that drama and plays and all that could be used on the
world stage, and so they started the East India Trading Company and went out
and used theater to conquer all those countries that they conquered, India and China
and all the rest, and the people never knew it, they didn't know
what was going on. But that's how all this started. And today it's
all the way to manifest to the point where we don't know what's real anymore.
I agree, Yeah, absolutely so, Penny, you were just talking
about a civil war that you've seen, this's going to happen in twenty twenty
four. Does this revolve around the twenty twenty four election? What have you
seen? This's going to happen there? And is this going to be wrapped
up in with the civil war and this being a part of the twenty twenty
four election, that's part of it. Um. It's a combination of things
financial crisis, food crisis, and UM and the governmental crisis and that that
whole crisis seems to be. It's like we're the last ones to get on
board with the civil war. Um, but we finally do that. It's
already happening other places and UM, and I've thought, no, we're we're
going to be able to figure it out. We're we're going to be able
to get through without the war. But I don't, I'm not. I
don't think so it looks like we're headed right toward it. Um, and
we have I don't know what the two presidential changes are in there between now
and twenty twenty five. UM, that's to me, that's a wild card.
But I see that again and again. It's like what happened there?
Something funky, something that people were just so shocked. Um, we've gotten
to a point where we are barely able to respond coherently and to think our
way through with any kind of critical thinking, and all of a sudden,
it just poof, it explodes and people are fighting, um in mostly in
the cities. So those of you, like you know, growing your own
food out in the boonies probably gonna have people come and by saying you gonna
get some food. But there's a lot of uproar in twenty twenty four and
that extends into twenty twenty five and that break up up the US. Can
you describe the food shortages because if they come out here to get the food,
they're going to get a lot of minerals in terms from our from our
vegetables. Look get look at minerals chart there. I'll describe that food shortage
for them. I'm just curious, you know, you're you're tuned into that.
I'm trying to see if your picture, if our pictures kind of snapped
together, because I'm focused on the food mainly. Yeah, there's two things
that there's no fresh food. There's some stored food. People do grow things,
but it's it looked like there's a shortage of real I'm going to say
nutrition. I think in terms of nutrition, and so are we getting the
nutrition that we need. There's no corn, so a lot of the process
stuff or the very limited the prices have gone up to some ridiculous, ridiculous
level. There's a very big shortage of wheat, and there seems to be
no hardly any meat at all, and so all of that, those are
the big few things. The fresh is coming from the local and it's limited,
and then the corn, the wheat, and the meat. That's what's
not there. Well, that's happening right now. We production is at one
hundred year loan in the United States, and the corn crop got wiped out
because of drought and cold temperatures so far up around the Great legs or corns
spiked some dollars that's the amount that it jumped up after the corner, after
the USDA came out with the crop forecasting just last week is astounding and shook
markets. Okay, we got rained for the first time in like two months,
just the last two days, so three days. So what are you
seeing in terms of food? There was no coffee. That was a big
deal. So what do you here? You know, I live on in
a farming community and I live near the Amish, and almost I don't know.
I almost don't know anybody who doesn't grow their own food or have animals
and things like. But the sheeps are getting a little out of control out
here, you know, they're starting to the cheaper. I mean, it's
a lot of work. And the bigger your animals get, or the larger
your animals get, I'm just happy to have turkey and geese and chickens,
you know. But you know, if you can have something substantial on a
meat source, it's a lot of extra work, you know, and run
to produce food. It's a full time thing. Yeah, we have a
farm. I have a farm. We grow food for market. Go to
the Kalamazoo Farmers Market. What we've noticed a few years ago six seven years
ago it was jammed, and then we had a medical issue, and now
hardly anybody is willing to go out to market. And when they do,
they treat it like it's like it's a Sunday morning brunch. They're buying the
donuts and the coffee and you know, stuff like that. They're not looking
at seriously at the nutrition and they wind her around and there's not as many.
And we live in the fruit belt. This is second only to San
Fernando Valley and it's going to be skimpy this year, very skimpy, a
lot of destruction. My grapes are doing beautifully. That's it. David.
How do you think that this UM presidential twenty twenty four presidential election is going
to shape up? And is it going to make a difference who becomes president
if anyone becomes president. Yeah, the natural cataclysms coming in and this ozone
depletion event and the food shortages, I mean it's a unique party system anyway.
I mean, if you can't see that or haven't seen that, I
mean this illusion of choice say or choice be that things will change. And
since I've been alive, and I'm sure everybody here it's always been that same
direction, always that everything continues to move wherever that like you say that the
moneyed families of the world want it to move in the direction there's never the
illusion is all there for see. You know, it's great when the illusion
works, But that's social contract has been broken in this last probably three years.
And now with going into a depression, and I'm talking to financial depression,
the supply chains and our complex systems are delivery have completely broken down.
The amount of food factory fires is now over one thousand, six hundred here
in America, which makes no sense. Used to have like two or three
per year that would burn down statistically over fifty years, and now there's one
thousand six hundred in this last two years. Opportunity for jobs and then with
the introduction of AI wiping everybody's opportunities out, like, the social construct is
completely shattered. The illusion, the belief, and the illusion. I could
believe some of the violence is coming from that because nobody believes that their life
can be improved. That it's all that's person. That person. Now,
I got everybody pointing fingers, that's the reason their lives are bad. Instead
of looking at the central banking, the switch over to systems from the libor
system into so for you know that two one hundred percent of one percent at
six hundred plus quad drillion dollars equals national economies of the entire planet for years
on end. Where does that money get made up? They're not going to
lose money. The banks aren't going to lose my central banks aren't going to
lose money. These aristocratic families aren't going to take the loss. You me,
the taxpayers are going to get milked for every cent to make up that
difference on the changeover of systems. So when you start to see it cascading
downward, you know it's going to be whoever's going to decide to run in
this madness is going to have quite a few things to pretend with. But
I really look at it as you know, will it be AI generated candidates
or will it be real? And you know, like you said, pushing
your hand through blue screens, you see backdrops where there's suddenly a swing in
the backdrop behind the White House, Like what are they even there? Or
is this all completely a giant stage play in a set that we're supposed to
believe the illusions we're supposed to believe that there's powers, are supposed to believe
that these people could come out and confiscate this or confiscate that, But really
they've already run to their underground safe space because they know what's inbound twenty twenty
four. I don't know about I'll stop. I don't know about you guys,
but I have a little bit of faith. And Robert Kennedy j H
Way, I know that you're really on the political um area here. What
do you think about Robert Kennedy Junior now running for president. He's a real
threat. He's a smart guy, and he's got he's got motivation on his
side. He has a vendetta to settle and uh, you know, but
I don't think it's ever going to be there. I mean, if there
is a twenty twenty four, um wow, it's I don't see how there
can be without it being postponed or canceled due to a national emergency. And
that is one of the contingencies when I worked with the FED that we looked
at, because you know, the movement of money, whether it's digital or
hard currency, still has to go on. There's going to be some sort
of commerce. Government has continuity of government. So yeah, I mean the
political contexts that I still in contact with, they're worried. And we've mentioned
it here. We're running up the deficit. It can't be paid back.
No, everyone knows in Washington it's never going to get paid back. So
if it's never going to get paid back, what's going to replace it?
Well, the thing about digital currency is that you know it's digital. You
know, let's get real into this. I think that there is going to
be part of this digital rollout, there will be some sort of countermeasure for
the consumer, because credit cards and all that system has to be completely redone.
I think that we're really looking at some sort of a digital ID.
They're already talking about it. Jay, Sorry, Wayne, go ahead.
No, I'll be one of those who won't take it. And the only
reason if you're not going to take it, you're going to have to.
Then they're immediately going to know that if you didn't take it, most likely
you're a prepper. I mean, it's already an executive order that Clinton signed,
I mean, excuse me, it was Clinton. Yeah, that you
really can't have more than three days worth of food legally, okay, And
so if you refuse the digital mark. They're going to know that you most
likely have something that you're falling back on. Anyway, I'll leave it up
for there. You could really write a playscript on this one, Jay Jay
with us just making this film about the Kennedy family essentially. How do you
feel about RFK Junior running for president? You think that's going to make a
difference. You think that you will get the nomination? No, No,
he won't get the nomination. But it is interesting that we have two candidates
that sound like Alex Jones. I think that's really interesting. By Trump and
RFK. Trump won't be allowed to be in either. They're not going to
allow that be over his literally over his dead body. I'm not going to
allow it. Like I said, they can't go back. They can't go
back now, they've gone too far. That's what the alien thing is.
I want to want to keep keep the facade going and keep it going until
they do their event, and I think their event is get out of Dodge
as soon as things start getting hairy, you know, So I think that
that's what's going on. I don't think there's going to be anything. If
there is an election, it'll be all fake and nothing will change. And
the one thing we have to come to grips with is that we're watching theater
and that's all we're watching. There's really nothing of substance there. My old
friend Jordan axwell all you said, it's not the election, it's the selection,
and I think that's what it is. So wow, Jay, Can
I ask a question about how good is the AI right now? Like,
really, how many people in positions of power are actually in the offices that
they say they are because after COVID everything's been closed down. You can't go
here, you can't enter the office building, you have to make an appointment
online, you have to chat with you know, on zoom or something like.
In a total percentage of one percent of people that are in elected positions,
how many of them are really out in the public sphere. Are they
all down in these preparatory bunkers getting ready ahead of like you say, when
the wave comes, they're going to be scattered to the wind, with the
perception that they're still around guiding things, pressing buttons, marching orders, doing
this, doing that. I mean, what are we really witnessing? I
think it's I think that's where we're going. We're going to see all the
politicians are going to be ai generated. You're not going to see anywhere handshaking.
You really don't see it anywhere anyway, if you think about it.
We're doing this film on the Kennedy assassination. We have a whole bunch of
shops of Jackie and jack you know, shaking hands in Dallas and all that,
and you don't you don't see that anymore if you think about it.
You don't see the president going out and meeting tons of people and big crowds
or anything. I mean, you did with Trump, but I mean generally,
over the last twenty years or so, you've seen it's all become disengaged.
And that's on purpose, because they really are just doing a lot of
theater, and theater and the occult and intelligence. They're all kind of a
mixed up tail. And I think that's what we're seeing here is a mixture
of a theater, intelligence agencies, and um, some criminal elements all mixed
together manufacturing a reality that, um, we all fall for it. And
they want to make sure we never awaken to see that. That's what they
want more than anything else, is to make sure that we never see the
false reality that they are creating for us. Too bad, we see it.
Yep. Well, the downside is if this collapses, and I mean,
you know, no plan is perfect, no plan lasts forever, um
and I don't think that these people are are that bright um And when this
when this thing collapses, and listen, the only way that this scenario works
out is that it has to collapse. I mean, they're going One scenario
that I know personally that we went over when I worked with the FED was
that we went one where they suspended the constitution. Now, if you suspend
the constitution, then you know, people will find out why a flag,
an American flag has gold guild around it because then maritime law comes into place.
And with maritime law most people don't realize, but the foundation of maritime
law, it's martial law. Someone's going to have to trigger all this.
Yeah. So DC is a separate country from the rest of the country.
It is yeah, by maritime law, where the rest of the country is
run by the law of the land, the constitution. And so DC has
bought up land all across the west. Here in Colorado, over fifty of
Colorado is owned by DC, and the best land in the state, so
they have the money to pay off the debt because they'll just confiscate that land
and sell it, and believe me, it will go for a lot of
money. So I think we're probably more headed towards some kind of confiscation of
land to try to trigger a crisis, a constitutional crisis where the constitution is
outlawed, and then they begin the confiscation of the land to pay off the
debt. Because remember, if you live in Florida or Colorado or Tennessee or
wherever, you're not responsible for that debt. That's DC that's responsible for borrowing
that money. Colorado didn't borrow that money. Dragon Day all over. You
could split a hair on that too. I'm just wondering, you know,
with this new issuance of the digital dollar, that's not a US dollar.
It's something different. It's a different form of currency. It may have the
same name, but the digital aspect of it, the new issuance of it,
is completely separate from what we understand is Treasury issued or FED issued dollars
that we have in circulation on the greenback paper. That's completely different, in
separate. So how does that play into that debt that you just mentioned.
There. Well, I think that they're the DC wants to own the whole
country. That's what we're looking at here, and they don't want us to
have our individual lights, our ability to own land and all of that.
And so that's where we're headed. And we're coming to uh, coming to
this, and it's gonna we're all gonna have to decide what we're gonna do
about it. And um, like I said, don't come on the island.
I mean it. I wouldn't come to my part of the country.
You're sorry, the interstate man. That's all I gotta tell you. We
would literally in this where I live, we would form a barricade on because
there's only a couple of roads that go in and out north, south and
east west. They did it back when the medical emergency happened, oddly enough,
when there was uprising in the city to the east of us. And
I actually see that happen, I really do. I mean everybody year has
pal pals. Everybody. We have contingency plans where I live with it.
One way in, one way out. We've got you see, that's what
I'm talking about. There's the threat. That's the threat. And and David,
you know and pinny with you guys growing. I mean we're growing food
too, but uh it sounds like y'all have a good production going that that
could be easily come. That's why I tell people don't fly American flag over
your property, because basically, in the in a state of emergency, you've
just simply said, here's my house. Everything I have is yours. Yeah,
that does concern me. I have seen Michigan splitting right down the middle
from Macanad down to Jackson and and that's it. The east side goes with
the craziest and the west side is like, you know, you come on
our land will do the same thing you and Jay are talking about, you
know, boom. I mean, I feel like the rat, you know,
forget the cheese, getting me the hell out of the trap. Yeah,
you know, I see calls. I'm watching and hearing and reading calls
for people to stand up. All of a sudden, it's like this has
gone on long enough, and that typically starts about six months to a year
before, which he just did. Before this happens. Yeah, you know,
I noticed that too. It was about two months ago. I noticed
that there was kind of this common sense of Okay, I've had enough of
this nonsense. And it's like every all my friends and everybody were just Okay,
that's it, We're done. I'm not sure what triggered it, but
I definitely saw a wave hit of we are so done with this. Yep,
yeah, I want to leave it. The beaver come back. I
want to go live in that neighborhood, you know, black and white televant.
Oh so steam freighter h bring back the days. Right. We've talked
a little bit about the catalyst of this and what the catalyst is going to
be. A financial collapse, a uprising, a civil war, food shortages,
and in my thoughts and my ideas and logically and critically when I'm thinking
about it, I think that all those are really good ways to get people
in an uproar. Right. But whatever the event is, it has to
be blamed on the public. It has to be blamed on us. That's
the only way that they can get away with doing any of that is if
they're able to turn it around and make us the enemy, like, oh
look, look look what you guys have done. You guys have collapsed it.
You guys have caused this havoc, havoc and destruction. It's your fault.
That's why we can't react. That's we just can't. We can't react.
Yes, you have to follow the laws or something major property, but
we can't do anything to cause them to push the switch and cause a constitutional
crisis. You just can't. We have to completely. I would stay home,
to be honest. If stay home, it is probably a really good
idea. Right now, I think we should all just um. And this
is a message that I've gotten from my people is sit down and don't participate.
Don't go anywhere and don't spend any money, don't buy anything, don't
you know, get any gas, don't make their systems work. And I
keep waiting for some people to say that's a perfect non violent thing that we
could do, and it would be very effective. It would only take a
couple of days and they'd be all over for them. They if they want
to have a world that they can control people, and we don't want to
play in their world, well they need to find another world. We're not
in their Absolutely I agree with Wayne. Do you have any thoughts on this?
You know we really are reaching acrossroads in here. I tell people all
the time. The thing that I know that this is being planned is that
there's no counter message in the mainstream media of unity, peace love. I
mean I come from the Woodstock generation, you know, and in the midst
of the Vietnam War and Nixon and the whole upheaval of our government, we
had one thing going amongst ourselves, and that was, you know, we
had the love ends. We had we had this this thing called uh,
you know, rock and roll. But we as a as a culture,
we found that unity. There's no unity talk today. There's no talk of
hands across the country. You know what we did in the eighties with Michael
Jackson and all the entertainers. I mean, there's no message of hope.
And that's that's not natural. That's unbound. Something is causing that when you're
completely obliterating a potential way to unify people instead of finding ways to divide them.
Yep, it's what's going on. And I go on here, Um
yeah, I'm about to wrap it up. I guess David, I don't
know if something's going on with this computer. If he jumped off, I
knew he had to go soon. Uh, Penny, let people know where
they can find you online, my dear, thanks for coming on. Um.
Yeah, I'm on on YouTube, on Patreon Penny Kelly, just my
name www dot Penny Kelly dot com or Patreon slash Penny Kelly that you rumball.
I have books on Amazon. Um yeah, I teach classes all kinds
of stuff, So come on over. Awesome, thanks so much for coming
on, Penny. Jay, where can they find You? Online? Jawidener
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Man, this is cool stuff. Man, better than Oliver So there
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