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Adventist Radio London. Inspiration for the
song. We welcome the Talking Point with

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Ray Sen You, Pedro Angeler discussing
the hot topics and answering your questions Saturday's

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five to seven pm on Adventist Radio
London. It's talking Point. It's talking

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Point. It's talking Point, it's
talking Point, real conversations. You need

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to have good evening, good evening, good evening. It feels like it's

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been a while since I've been sat
in this seat. It feels like it's

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been a while since we've had a
live program. But I'm sure that you've

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missed us. We certainly missed you, and we're looking forward to the discussion

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this afternoon. You're listening to Talking
Point here on Adventist Radio London and we'll

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be with you for the next couple
of hours. Right as always, I

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have got my trusted co host on
zoom, Angela and Pedro is away at

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the moment. He is supporting his
wife who's doing a concert. And if

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you've got the particulars, then I
encourage you to pop across if you can.

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I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time
there as well. But it's just

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us for today. Angie, and
we've got a guest coming on a little

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bit later as well. But how
have you been. It's been a while,

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so let's say hello and let listeners
know how you've been. Welcome to

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talking. Thank you so much for
us, and I'll say it has actually

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seen you. It did much much
longer than that, so good to see

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you. Good to see you in
Hey, how have I been? Interestingly,

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as we're talking about a topic,
sorry for today, I have been

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that person. It's a really really
stressful week for various reasons. You know,

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life happens, and you know things, you get into situations and what

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happens. So it's been a really
stressful, tiring, I have to admit,

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but praise God we're here, this
has gone very weekend. Always thankful

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for Sabbath. And interestingly, the
song that we reopened with that has came

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on before by the Class Sisters less
than highly favored, it really reminds me

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of that kind of saying that we're
too blessed to do stressed now, whilst

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that's not entirely strictly true in that
respect, because you know, unfortunately we

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live in a simple world and stressful
time is potentially going to come but we

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know that somebody has got our back, and we are indeed blessed and highly

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favored, got God's grace and mercy
and just keeps us and all I can

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say, I've got to this point
for out the week, and can I

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say it's any good? Yes,
but you know, and I say that's

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it's been stressful. There's been some
good. Bit it's been a very up

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and down week, but you know, generally I'm good and yeah, yeah,

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lesson highly favored, so definitely.
Well, we're talking a little bit

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about I guess I've given a I've
given away a bit of a clue about

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what I saw. Nothing wrong with
that. In fact, the topic is

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what got stress, what stress got
to do with it was Stress Awareness Month,

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so we're sort of finishing off about
that and looking at how we can

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manage our stress. So yeah,
so we're sure we're going to be sharing

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some of our thoughts. I have
favorite texts and music and things that we

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can do. So yeah, that's
been me. I'm quite glad for today

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has actually been quite nice and otherwise. So I'm saying spring is in the

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air a little bit because I was
working up by the thunder and lightning this

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week boy, and the torrential rain
so and I know we are in no

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way over here in the UK.
We don't know half those extreme weather's in

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like in some countries. But the
way I felt the rumbles and saw the

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lightning, I was like, oh, thankfully, I think place, I

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think where I lived in London.
Then there was a power I wasn't there.

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So I have no idea whether my
coy was effective, but yeah,

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yeah, yeah, that was that
was scary for some I think sunshine.

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So I'm happy for that. I
think. I am good. I am

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good. Are you hearing me?
Okay? I think so, yeah,

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Okay, I I'm good. I'm
good. You've said a lot there in

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terms of I feel very much the
same. It's been a you say it's

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been a stressful week, but it's
been I feel like a stressful start to

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the year. And that's how life
is, isn't It's it's a lot of

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ups and downs and you just have
to ride the wave, as it were.

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But but God, that's my final
answer. That's sometimes my status on

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my What's app But God, full
stop, that's where that's where the buck

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stops. And I am grateful for
life for him bringing me through and here

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we are another Sabbath day. I
hope everyone had a wonderful day of rest

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of restoration. And yeah, we
we just give God, thanks, We

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give God thanks. Stress affects everyone. I mean, if you don't feel

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you need the program today, I
encourage you to just look back on the

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podcast. If possible, there will
be a moment a time in your life

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where you'll need to maybe pull this
one back up, because stress just it

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has a way of just showing up
often when you least expect it. And

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there is a way to manage stress. And first and foremost it is our

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relationship with God and our trust in
Him that often gets us through. So

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yeah, the sun. You talk
about spring, I felt like spring came

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and then it went, and then
it, I don't know, sprung and

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un sprung and sprung again. I
really can't keep up. They always say

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April showers, so kind of you
know, in that respect, that's kind

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of what's happening. And I was
often met with it rains, but it

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was cold. Did you feel I
feel like it's been on season probably cold

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a few days there where I thought, right, we're right back to winter.

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Get your coats out. Indeed,
cardigans and sweaters again and just be

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like, Okay, a few days
I've been completely caught out. You fund

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pretty good checking the weather reports and
the temperature, and like, okay,

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I'm one blaring and carrying. And
then there's a few days but I'm like,

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oh, you know, goodness,
I remember watching a TikTok and I'm

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not sure who shared it or TikTok
or Instagram or whatever it is. These

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days with this gentleman, it's just
like the four or five seasons. There's

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five seasons in one day. So
he's gone out with this jacket and then

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the sun comes out, he's put
his jacket back on. It's raining and

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it's hail, and it's wind and
it's and people who do not live in

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the UK cannot relate obviously. Reason
you watch experience, please come over,

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you know, great place to be, lots to do, all seasons in

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one day. Yes, yeah,
so yeah, here we are here,

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we are, indeed. But yeah, the topic for today is what's stress

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got to do with it? And
of course you're encouraged to get involved if

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you've got stress tips that you want
to share, or we're talking about scriptures,

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we're talking about songs, we're talking
about stress management and if you've got

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a trick or two that you want
to share with us, please do so.

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It's text on eight triple to eight
space hope and then your message,

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or you can WhatsApp us now oh
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eight nine eight, or you can
email its studio at Adventist Radio dot London

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and let us know how you manage
stress or what are the indicators for you

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that you're dealing with stress and what
does your body say? What what happens

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for you that makes you sort of
go right, I need to take a

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step back. Whatever you'd like to
share, we'd love to hear from you.

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It's far too quiet every time we
come on. We encourage you to

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get involved because we'd really love to
hear from you and it makes to show

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much more interesting, much more interactive
if you contribute. So we're looking forward

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to hearing from you on that sense. Let's pray and then let's get into

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We'll take a song and then we'll
get into the conversation. Today, dearnly

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father, we thank you for your
goodness, We thank you for your mercy

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and for your grace. Be with
every aspect of the program today, with

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the technology, be with our listeners, be with our guest, and be

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with us as a talking point team. May everyone be blessed in Jesus' name.

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Amen and amen. Right, what
shall we here? Now? Let's

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take this selection by Vanessa bell Armstrong. Today, let's go. He's a

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good day. Decides smile happy,
it's a good day. Decile theday,

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It's a good day. Decile and
happy. He's a good day. Design

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No, listen, let me talk
to you. I'm just slf woringabout with

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your face. You know, the
brown you were needs to be replaced.

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You need some joy, you need
some love in your space. Hear me

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when I said today it's good,
take the stile and the happy here today,

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it's good. Take style, no
reason. It's gonna take you the

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sile and the happy. Yeah days. Good take sile, no love,

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no worry. Know what you say, all the good that you do do

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you real alive, that's coming back
to you. No, you matter and

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you can't be replaced even a say
your side. It's good. Take the

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stile and be happy today. Good
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hoday, He's a good day.
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it's gonna be a it's got chip. Stop pouring. Stop, it's gonna

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be all day. Stop pouring out, praying, it's gonna be a ding.

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I'm pouring out what it's going to
be? Your head all told me

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it's gonna be a light he said
to be. It's gotta be a being

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going out to be the chota.
Smile and be happy today. Yes,

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this is a good day to spy, have a ready for real. It's

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a good day to smile and be
happy. You need to do. It's

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a good day to file no wormy, let's go today. It's a good

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day to si A smile happy today. It's a good day to file the

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love me. Monday is a good
day to smile and be happy. It's

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a good day to file the love
me. Listen, let me talk to

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you. Find yourself, Riena,
by what you think? You know?

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The brown you were needs to be
replaced. You need some joy, You

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need some love in your space.
Hear me when I say today, you

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nay good happy today? Good day? Si no reason no good happy?

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Yeah, hadday, good day?
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all the good that you do,
do you realize that's coming back to you.

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No, you matter and you can't
be refrained, can wait a shay

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yourself beside. He's a good thing, Chile, be happy to day a

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good danger. Don't believe today today
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he's a good Day's fine coach.
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be yours. Got chet, stop
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Dak, stop pouring out pray.
You know it's gonna be your light,

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trading what it's going to be your
hand to me, it's right, happy,

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Yes, good day, every day
you need to do, It's good

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day. No worried today amazing.
I'm really really loving that song. I'm

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introduced to me by our guest Vanessa
Armstrong with today and I remind her that

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we just need to be happy.
Whatever we're facing, God's got all back.

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And I think that's what we touched
on a bit earlier and she we

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don't face our tomorrow's alone, so
we can face them with a smile.

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Right. So the topic what stress
got to do with it? And before

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we even go on, we had
Alison o Wuku on and she did a

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presentation or series with us breaking down
strongholds, and to close out Stress Awareness

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Month, we did a recap of
her the part I think was part two

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where she spoke about worry, fear, and anxiety. So much of what

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we say today may come as a
reminder, maybe stuff that you already know

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and that won't hurt because, like
I said, if you don't need it

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in your toolbox today, you certainly
will at some point. We all do

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face stress at various levels, and
we handle it differently also, but she

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sort of gives us a really good
deep dive into that stronghold that we've face,

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which is worry, fear, anxiety, which is very closely related.

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And she spoke, she shared nuggets
and so forth. I mean, we

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were taking notes, scribbing down a
few of those things that we probably have

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on sticky somewhere about the house,
but she sort of broke it down for

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us. And we closed out last
week with a recap of that program,

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and Allison will be back. It's
a good time to share that information now.

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Allison will be back because we didn't
quite finish the series. There were

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some other topics that we thought were
heavy enough to hold off on sharing them,

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so she will be back to finish
the Breaking Down Stronghold series with us,

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and also she's doing something next week
or in the next few weeks and

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she we wanted to share a little
bit about that too. Yeah, this

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is actually next week, so herself
and another another bad fairly recently Belnard Allen

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are presenting a I guess the workshop
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called forty six Times and More.
Now stress will come to us in many

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different forms, but this is called
six and forty six Times and More,

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and it's based on and it's kind
of inspired by the image of Diane Abbott.

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She's a UK politician, black woman, standing four to six times in

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Parliament to contribute to the debate that
was happening on racism, and she basically

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was being bypassed like nobody was hearing
what she had to say. They were

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talking about racism. The gentleman called
Frank Hester. We said some let's not

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even go into what he said.
That's said some things about her and her

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position as a black woman in public
life. So that's what it's been inspired

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by. And it says that often
many mellanated women are triggered but directly triggered

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by the circulation of Hester's hateful words
and reminded of the way that they often

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carry as part of their identity work. The coverage of her sitting and standing

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and be ignored being feeling invisible,
sitting and standing with a determination to have

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a voice definitely provoked an important viewing
of black African Caribbean African descended women in

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our contemporary times. So they said, some of us were reminded of the

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importance of having a faith that has
for generations given us as women an ability

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to helicopter a bathroom stand in spite
of the micro and macro aggressive, racist

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or sexiest reality is that often many
women face. So this event is really

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an opportunity for women and men to
come together to contribute to the conversations that

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are happening about committed to supporting a
sisterhood and you know the process of healing,

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because many people are dealing with stuff
like this on a day to day

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basis and sometimes don't really have a
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often try to silence them. So
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learning and healing. So you're invited
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the radio website if we can as
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maybe eleventh at seven point thirty,
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more. Also, I mean we
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of having very different perspectives on the
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seven one four eight and the pass
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one four eight and the passcode again
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to pass the information along to you
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and that's what we wanted to share. And again it may very well

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be a recap for you. But
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awareness, as we close out Stress
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at those issues again because, as
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What might stress me may not stress
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be how you cope. But there
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I feel sit with everyone, now, Angie, if I'm going to put

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you on the spot, as I
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mind is stress? How would you
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of diferent descriptions. But I would
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put on you. I'm just trying
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well, in a layman's terms,
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life. Yes, So you know, it's often a feeling of emotional or

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physical tension. It could come from
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feel frustrated, angery're nervous, it's
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demand. Interesting, And I remember
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there's also kind of a positive aspect
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it's the kind of stress that can
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of So for instance, I used
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not so much now. Because I
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I'm too world for all of that. It feels like now, but that

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when the car is kind of going
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almost fear and your body is under
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even know what's going to happen.
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I'm going to get to the top
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of factor on that. Or it
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of if you were going to sit
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adrenaline to kind of keep you going. So there's a level of stress that

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be happening, so you get out
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and that kind of where it can
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into that dynamic flight, flight or
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our body's way of responding to change
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always, as you've said, something
to be concerned about. That there's good

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levels of stress and anticipation of something
to be alert, to be aware you're

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crossing the road. You don't want
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to be alert or where that there
are potential dangers there, but you know

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you don't. You cross the road
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then there might be a level a
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so yeah, there's there are levels
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on what the issue of the matter
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it's a it's a normal human reaction
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we've been designed in that way to
be able to do things, to

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respond to things, to keep us
say to us respond appropriately to whatever comes

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at us, and we need that, you know. I think, you

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know, I kind because I kind
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those kinds of functions, I wonder
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you know, if you didn't.
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to a certain level, because if
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we're gonna be talking a lot back
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it, you know, And I
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going to be in your own self
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part right through to getting professional help
if you need it. It's becoming to

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a point where you can't face this, you can't you know, you can't

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deal with it yourself, and it's
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a needed, a needed response that

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we all will have and we need. Really, Yes, and stress is

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if I remember it being broken down. I mean it could be in response

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to pressures at work. I recently
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had resigned, and I didn't know
what I didn't know let's put it that

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way. When she left and I
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were so many things that she'd done. Perhaps I don't think it was intentionally,

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I i she didn't just she didn't
share, she didn't teach, or

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she didn't pass it on simple things. But once I was there on my

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own, I realized, oh my
goodness, I don't know how to do

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that actually, or a question would
come and like I've never f that one.

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I don't know how to respond to
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about it. And it was a
very stressful time. And those are some

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of the things that you may be
dealing with. Or maybe the job is

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stressful full stop. You know,
it's a high pressure, a demanding job,

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and it takes its toll on you
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can respond like that or can live
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are just too stressful. I think
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environments. But some people thrive in
that. So again that's the difference between

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how people react and respond. Stresses
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whether you may be expecting a baby, or there's something that you're buying

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a house or moving home. Those
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big issue at the moment, and
there's not so much talk about the

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the isis at the moment. But
money, money is a huge stressor for

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so many people. And you know
it's a matter of budgeting or perhaps you're

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in a significant amount of debt,
or maybe there are things that you'd like

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to get but you just don't have
the resources to do so. So yes,

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money, money can be a significant
stressor. And health is another one.

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There's a saying that you spend your
youth chasing wealth and your your later

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days chasing health because we don't quite
get that balance right. But health is

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another significant stressor in people's lives,
whether you are facing ability or a health

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crisis or a challenge, or maybe
it's just trying to maintain good health.

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And sometimes we don't get the balance
right there as well. You know,

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we put so much pressure on ourselves. You know, if you miss an

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exercise date or the gym one day
or whatever it might be because of how

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you've you've prioritized that that might be
an issue for you and you felt well

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Okay, I've missed a trick,
or if you're dieting and you decided to

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have candy that afternoon or a burger. Some people get really really wound up

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over stuff like that. So yeah, that could be an issue as well.

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And relationships another big stressor living with
people and you know, you and

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I exchange notes on our moms and
the dynamics there. It can be.

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gear up supporting even love relationships, marriages,

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parents, a ya yai. That
could be very stressful. And one

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thing that really jumped out in the
midst of COVID. You know, health

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and money and all that were key
factors. But loneliness, Yes, and

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we did we did a program.
We did a program with our elderly and

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that that very much came up.
That's a program that you do at your

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church, so where we're honing in
on our elderly and our aged community and

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the fact that loneliness really impacted them
or even just people who just didn't get

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a chance to go out or people
didn't check on them because we were all

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stuck in doors. I don't know
if anybody remembers that time. Goodness,

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it seems so very long ago,
but almost surreal, like it didn't happen.

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But yes, there was a COVID
pandemic about and it really it really

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highlighted that issue of loneliness and which
was a very stressful time for so many.

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So these are some of the issues
that people face. Unfortunately, you

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can be facing many. It's not
just one. You know, you could

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be a money challenge, a health
challenge, and a relationship challenge all in

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one bag. In fact, I
often say that life was compartmentalized, you

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know, and there are times when
I feel there's never a moment where everything

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is working correctly. I don't know
if anyone else feels like that, but

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there's always a compartment that's not quite
right. You know, nothing's nothing.

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There's never a time in my life
when everything's working everything. You know,

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we're cooking on old burners. It's
never like that when when I get something

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fixed in one compartment, then here
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life is for me, and I
know we've always spoken about that anti but

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life just always seems to have an
element of stress to it. And I

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think literally you said it because sometimes
I think when things are going to well,

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I'm almost and this is yes,
me too suspicious of that? Yes,

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like okay, this is almost Sometimes
say somethings are too good to be

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true? There is you know,
sometimes do I I think? Am I

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talking that into into existence as it
were? Because you know, so a

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man thinking, so is he that
kind of concept? But sometimes I'm like,

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I'm not sure I shouldn't really think
like that. But you know,

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you know, for honesty and transparency
there. You know, the reality is

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sometimes so many things are always happening
that you just think, you know,

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when you get a break from all
of that, you have to wonder what's

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going on? Yeah, you know, you know, as people are incredibly

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resilient, you know, and I
think that's one thing despite sometimes the stress

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that we do face, we do
have that ability to be able to cope.

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And again, coping can be on
so many different ways and so many

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different levels. But you know,
sometimes we get so used to it that

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when things aren't stressful, dare I
say that? You know, we almost

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don't know what to do with ourselves
kind of things. So yeah, so

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it always feels like sometimes you can't
have it both ways, you can't deal

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with it both ways. So yeah, but I mean need us to say,

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and I'm kind of having a look
at some statistics, you know,

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and out of some of the studies
that you you know, you're, you're

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I've been looking at, you know, at least you'd say, seventy five

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percent of the population in many studies
have felt stressed, so stressed that they

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were unable to cope or to face
what's going on. And then the kind

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of effects that will happen, you
know from that. In this study was

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saying four to six reporter that they
ate too much or they drunk unhealthily.

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00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.320
Twenty nine percent they started drinking or
increased their drink. Lem seen many Christians

408
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:30.039
surdrink alcohol, but for many of
those do that do that increased? Try

409
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.679
to jump in here and say many
Christians don't drink alcohol openly? Is that

410
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:40.400
what you say? I mean something
like this as well. You know,

411
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.800
I can imagine as well during the
COVID time when you kind of lock down,

412
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:50.440
people were turned to certain things to
be able to go on, you

413
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:55.239
know, alcohol, smoking, drugs, what have you, you know,

414
00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.440
eating, eating excessively with those kind
of things, I'm sure could have arted.

415
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:04.440
So yeah, I mean, as
I say that, obviously, then

416
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.599
the stress can then lead to having
psychological effects as well. This is a

417
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.519
mental health foundation of study which was
in their two I was looking at a

418
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.119
twenty eighteen study, which is a
few years ago and obviously was before COVID,

419
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.119
so I can imagine actually some of
their figures would have been much higher

420
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.639
now. But fifty one percent of
adults who felt stress reported that they then

421
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:30.440
felt depressed and reported feeling anxious.
Sixty percent of those people who would express

422
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:37.880
that they'd experienced stress in their lives
self harmed double that said they had suicidal

423
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.960
thoughts or feelings. And then as
you mentioned, loneliness is definitely a factor

424
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.559
as well with that. So you
know the effects of stress can have some

425
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.239
really serious implications and amplications. And
as you said, you know, stress

426
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.199
can come from all sides for all
different things, and as you said,

427
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.199
it's how we deal with it that's
going to make it more difference. Just

428
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.760
as you said there, I mean, it's almost a vicious cycle, isn't

429
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.800
it, Because you're stressing about something
and there's a consequence to that. So

430
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:14.079
you're talking there about maybe overeating,
but then you're you're stressing about the overeating,

431
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.159
So the cycle continues, doesn't it, and like you said, there

432
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.960
is there are ways to self self
help, but there are times when it's

433
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.639
beyond you and and there is a
need to get interventional get professional professional help.

434
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.840
But you've highlighted there in the study
the things that you can look out

435
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:40.320
for as you as you've listed them
there the consequences or the the indicators that

436
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:46.840
you may be stressed, and you've
rightly said overeating or oversleeping or not sleeping

437
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.719
enough or not eating enough. Those
are some of the things that people can

438
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.880
Yeah, I mean your physical often
stress can player and your physical symptoms that

439
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.360
can be kind of a really clear, kind of a bit of a clear

440
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.360
indicator that something is going wrong.
Right if you start to be, you

441
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:08.239
know, frequently getting headaches, or
you feel really fatigued and exhausted, if

442
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.360
there are changes in your appetite,
how you're eating increase or not eating much,

443
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.679
you're having difficulty sleeping, or your
sleep pattern will seem to be all

444
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.920
over the place, that can indicate
that you are suffering from stress. And

445
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.440
what's often that you see is it's
kind of like a it's a progressive thing.

446
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.960
If you've got quite if you've got
like what you mentioned about work,

447
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.840
you've got quite a high pressure,
stressful job. You know, you go

448
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.800
to work, do your job as
things going on, and you know you're

449
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.719
managing, you're dealing with it.
But if you then don't get a good

450
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.199
night's sleep, you then you know, a few hours, you get up,

451
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.599
you get ready, you go to
work. Your body is slowly but

452
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.719
surely getting more and more fatigued,
more and more stressed and sle whatever happens,

453
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.800
you know, that then can lead
to emotional changes as well. So

454
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.480
you might have mood swings, or
you might be more irritable, or just

455
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.159
completely feel feeling very overwhelmed and not
showing. You know, sometimes if you're

456
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.719
struggling to make decisions about things and
you you can't do something, and if

457
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:12.079
you can't, if you notice that
you can't assally do things that you never

458
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.480
had any problem before, or you
might think, actually, I don't feel

459
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.400
like doing anything. I don't feel
motivated as well to stay at home.

460
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.599
I don't want to hang out with
my friends or go to events and activities.

461
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.519
You know, those are the kind
of things that can start to become

462
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:30.639
quite apparent, you know, increase
sensitivity talk about work. You may not

463
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.360
do something too in the way that
you like to you get really criticized for

464
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.719
it, but you're very sensitive to
that now, you know, and suddenly

465
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.079
it feels like it's the end of
the world to work. You know,

466
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:47.000
you might then start being very teary, emotional and feel quite hopeless and helpless

467
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:53.039
in situations. So you know these
things, and again, sometimes these things

468
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.840
might come out of the blue,
I don't really know what's going on,

469
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.079
and other times you just think,
you know, you can see it a

470
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.239
direct result of something, you know, the situation. So yeah, so

471
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.920
physical science are definitely can be a
good indicator. And often in the working

472
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:16.400
environment, I'm sure many people have
heard of that b word burnout when it

473
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.639
gets too much that you're just like, okay, I really can't be cope

474
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.840
with that. You know, you
may feel that, and it's just in

475
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.519
terms of you start to do things
in a very different way. That's definitely

476
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.840
shown that you're not coping quite as
well as you hoping you would like to.

477
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.960
And again, all those things again
can put strain on your into personal

478
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.960
relationships. You mentioned some of those
things going to cause stresses, but whatever

479
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.199
you're dealing with just can kind of
parle on that. Yes, you know,

480
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.119
you don't know how to kind of
connect with people in the same way

481
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:51.639
you did, or you withdraw from
people, or you get into conflicts,

482
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.000
or things just escalate. You know, something that may not have bothered you

483
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:58.880
before suddenly becomes a really big thing. So there's a lot of different and

484
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.199
this is the way which you keep
people can be impacted as well. So

485
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:06.559
yeah, stress can. Yeah,
it can be the causer of many things,

486
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.000
you know. And I remember doing
a presentation actually and calling it stress

487
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:15.840
is stressful because it really is.
Because whilst there are some positive aspects,

488
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:20.960
yeah, you get into the dignitigrity
of the wall, it's stressful in itself,

489
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.239
you know, and what comes with
that. So it can definitely be

490
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.519
a bit of a never ending cycle. As if you're going mind the circles

491
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.800
was one thing will have but derect
effectively as from something else as well.

492
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.960
Yeah, and when I thought of
the idea of what stress got to do

493
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.559
with it, I am personally.
I remember going to the doctors and we

494
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.639
did a barrage of tests. You
know, you do your blood tests,

495
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.480
your your this and that and the
other, and when it comes it came

496
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.280
back the doctor said, but you're
healthier than I am. You know,

497
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.000
all the indicators are fine, you
know, Praise God. I mean,

498
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.480
there's nothing too high or too low, et cetera, et cetera. But

499
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.159
why am I feeling like this?
Why? Why am you know? My

500
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.400
heart part to take? Or you
know, I've got dizzy spells or whatever

501
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.280
whatever it might be. And a
lot of times it's the stress when you've

502
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.079
got these symptoms and you can't quite
put your hand on what or your finger

503
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.360
on what it might what might be
the cause. A lot of times it's

504
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.440
stress. And it's often defined as
the silent killer because it has such effects

505
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.239
on your body and an impact on
your body, and quite frankly, you

506
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:29.880
don't realize that that is what's causing
whatever you're dealing with. And like you

507
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.760
said, it can have far reaching
impact. You know, if you're feeling

508
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.719
dizzy or tired, or you've got
heart palpitations, or you know you muscle

509
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.559
problems and all that back problems,
all of those things could be a consequence

510
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.280
of stress. So, like you
said, it can have far reaching effects.

511
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:52.079
It has impacts beyond even what you
think It might. Impacts your relationships,

512
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.719
it impacts your lifestyle, your livelihood, So it really is something that

513
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.679
you've got to look out for,
and you've got to know yourself, because

514
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.679
when you're talking about it then and
I'm thinking, well, what is And

515
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.639
I pitched that to our listeners and
I'm hoping that someone will eventually chime in.

516
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:13.199
But what stresses you? It's good
to be aware of what your stresses

517
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.320
are. And we're going to be
coming on shortly to stress management. But

518
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:21.920
first you need to know what stresses
you, what happens to you when when

519
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.079
you are stressed, and watch what
other things to look out for to know

520
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:29.320
what. Okay, I'm getting very
irritable these days, and I know it's

521
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:32.239
time for a break, you know, or yeah, I just said,

522
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.920
that's a good example of that.
I remember, you know, I used

523
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.320
to you know, I used to
be commuting all the time, traveling on

524
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.800
public transport in London. You know, London is a busy city during rush

525
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.000
hour, you know, you're pack
jam packed, lots of people getting on

526
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.760
the train, getting on the bus, getting on the tube. And I

527
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.880
got to a point where I realized
I was finding that whole process of commuting

528
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:58.320
really stressful. I could feel just
not wanting to be within the crowds of

529
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.280
people. I didn't want to be
crushed in a tube train squash up against

530
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.840
people. I found that really really
overwhelming and just you know, and then

531
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.760
obviously people the way they respond and
they talk. You know, I'd find

532
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.639
myself getting to work either feeling really
angry, definitely very irritable and just really

533
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.880
hot and bothered. I just remember
thinking I don't like this, and I

534
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.360
actually, if I remember right if
I yeah, I actually changed my work

535
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:28.480
active. I was seeing the main
bulk of the rushed out rush shine,

536
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:31.800
so I'd actually coming into work and
started working a little bit later, so

537
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.400
you know, and also changing different
forms of it as well. I was

538
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.559
just like i'd lother get the bus, which is not without its stress as

539
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.320
well, but it just wasn't going
to be quite as packed a dissy.

540
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.599
So it got to some point where, you know, and I remember,

541
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.599
I don't know where that's necessary to
do an age or experiences or what have

542
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.639
you, but I was like,
I don't want to do that. You

543
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.320
know. Now that I'm living outside
of London, it's a longer commute but

544
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.760
a very different type of journey.
But as I come into London, I

545
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.480
think, oh, I've got to
get on the tree I'm going to get

546
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.079
on the tube or what have you. I can feel the effects of that.

547
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.280
Your heart starts to raise. So
just think, oh, I've got

548
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.039
to brace myself for what possibly may
come. So yeah, definitely kind of

549
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.719
being aware of your own triggers as
it were, or things that you know

550
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.079
are going to impact you. And
then it's once you have identified for those

551
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.920
things, is then what can you
do to mitigate that and to minimize it

552
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.440
because you may not be able to
get rid of it fully, you know,

553
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.719
I have to commute into work.
It is what it is. But

554
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.360
what can I do? You know, And I had, you know,

555
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.159
adopted some kind of strategy to kind
of help me, you know, mitigate

556
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.199
for that, because I just I
recognized that I didn't want to get to

557
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:45.679
work stress before being started, you
know. So so that's a really good

558
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:51.280
point, you know there knowing and
just said knowing yourself right about it.

559
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.039
I think this is a good point
for a break. And I'm going to

560
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.519
actually throw in a couple of songs
and then when we're back, we're going

561
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.079
to talk about stress management. And
I am going to introduce our guest who's

562
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.760
been patiently waiting in the wings very
patiently, and I'll ask him to maybe

563
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.400
give a little bit about what we've
been discussing so far, but also to

564
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.800
talk about his real reason for being
here. So do stay tuned and we'll

565
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:20.000
get into that very shortly. Our
songs I've got lined up is I Smile,

566
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.079
Kirk Franklin, and I'm I'm talking
about stress busting anthems here. Some

567
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.039
big tunes just get you in the
right mood. Whenever I hear them,

568
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.320
it just really puts a smile on
my face and you know, pep in

569
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.039
my step, as it were.
And We've compiled a few songs, so

570
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.519
I'm going to share a few with
you now and then we'll share a few

571
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:43.119
later. So it's Kirk Franklin,
I Smile, and Kirk Franklin. Kirk

572
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:45.239
Franklin has to be on that playlist. If you're talking about stress busting,

573
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.400
it really has to be. It
has to be Kirk Franklin. I'm sure

574
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:58.039
he's got a few of them,
like so many I think, you know,

575
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.880
I think he's a great artist and
incredibly talented. But also when I

576
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.119
was thinking about this, he's got
you know, big songs, both high

577
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.719
energy and really kind of really uplifting
but also some really deeply reflective songs as

578
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.639
well. So I think you know, in terms of you know, wherever

579
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.599
you are, we're talking about how
you can manage your stress, and music

580
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.519
is a great way to help with
that. You know. Kurt's got some

581
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.599
reference. It definitely would be on
your planet, whatever side you go to.

582
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.000
So he's got coming some upbeat ones
for this one. So yeah,

583
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.320
all right, So it's Kirk Franklin. I smile, Kirk Franklin again,

584
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.000
wanted through victory and Mary Mary.
I don't know if you remember that one,

585
00:48:34.079 --> 00:49:00.639
but shackles, Yes, depression,
there was no sunshine and it started

586
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:08.079
in my heart and it feels like
a cold night today's I know that where

587
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:15.639
Amo, where is the love and
the joy that you pounds me? Tell

588
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:21.960
me? So ay, be honest
with you. I most leave. I'm

589
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:30.480
p candy splay fell from heaven,
take a shower when I think, come

590
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.960
much better. I'm gonna leave when
this is over. Even though I see

591
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:42.840
I start, I know that it
is working. So even though I'm beautiful,

592
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:52.039
what you do? I smile?
Come on, smile South should hate

593
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.800
to sing again? Now, God's
people you know so much shell wave your

594
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:02.719
smile so sod every day gonna be
perfect, but it's still from me today.

595
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:13.280
Don't have come on today but there
is no sunshine, nothing but clouds

596
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.599
and it still having a heart and
it feels like a cold night. It

597
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:23.800
ain't easy, but today's you tell
me wherever about Lucy? Where is I

598
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.440
love y'all? Love Joman that you
promised me tell me is all right?

599
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:38.599
The truth is almost steve power and
can't stay. It goes power with y'all

600
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:46.880
from a shower. I know we
would hurt child, but still come home

601
00:50:47.119 --> 00:51:01.119
even though I see you feel God
is working so skill so much. Something

602
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:12.440
down so I hate to see it
again cause people kill so much. Let's

603
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:31.400
whoa Can you just smile? Whatever
you're in right now? Smile? Can

604
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:44.639
you just SMI and the people say
you so much? You know so much?

605
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:52.440
You want so much? Say you
want so much? And why you're

606
00:51:52.480 --> 00:52:02.320
waiting you so yeah? And why
you praying? Look at mirror, always

607
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:15.280
remember the stand why you must almost
but it goes power. You'll turn out

608
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:27.760
harshas difficulties. Here's does this is
what I do? This whateverels good.

609
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:39.760
It's like tell us all things are
working still Sluija. I know it's hard

610
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:52.960
right now because you're a winner.
Still look better tell us New Orleans,

611
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:09.480
come, Cleveland, Detroit. It's
so much Dealers, Jersey, Hellen.

612
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:19.320
All the people say so much.
See, I just don't want you to

613
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.400
be happy. I think you gotta
have something help there. I want you

614
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:29.360
to have joy because can't nobody take
that from you. I'll see you smiling.

615
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:37.039
Hey, y'all one too free,
get up? We got big no

616
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:44.199
aping they grow heavy, you know
they won't prosper Nah. Yeah, trust

617
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.519
I'm doing good. I'll say even
bad. All I'm doing good. Should

618
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:53.199
be up pretty far. I'm really
good. All the time you say God

619
00:53:53.280 --> 00:54:01.639
is good, you go back down
down downtem basa falling down down down,

620
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:09.599
the calling down. He's waiting on
you. So what you're gonna do?

621
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.239
You know what to pray? Get
up? We got says no, it's

622
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:22.480
and make pro y you know prospa
na. This is quite how to pray.

623
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:31.039
Get up. We got it to
a no and now like prossa now

624
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:42.159
stoeging. I see the world changing. No joy easy, I getting bea

625
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:50.599
down you down down, don't forget
a thing. He's drove fasa falling down

626
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:57.800
down down your pay anything new.
Jerry calls your waiting on down. He's

627
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.559
weighing on you. He's waiting and
on you with vlument through. Now it's

628
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:10.360
on you so much you don't do
come on to free. We got there

629
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:20.519
so they pro you know, I
lout project now sorry too Gray. We

630
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:37.320
got the tip and now protect no
churches that you can cry shadow up.

631
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:46.480
You're note sound cred thing. Seele
take some of me. That's a party

632
00:55:46.559 --> 00:56:00.280
to name see namesatory namesatory. Hey
yo want to great we got but wish

633
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:17.440
the women sen that happen. You
are too worried. Ye see I'm hand

634
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:27.920
so no, dont the gifts and
all the people say. See the reason

635
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.440
why you're doing good is because what's
ahead of you, it's redly than all

636
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:35.760
the things that were behind you.
See you gotta understand. You gotta understand

637
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.599
that everything was already a danger or
you've got this for you to do good.

638
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.159
See if your eyes have not seen
it is I'm not hurt. You

639
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:45.599
neither happened God master for playing for
a chief. I mean that's you love

640
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.400
it. Girls, you got a
child, my brother. You don't understand

641
00:56:50.440 --> 00:57:36.639
the all things to work? Yeah, shown No, I don't mind that's

642
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:47.159
great. No, I didn't know
what you want to do. Yeah,

643
00:57:52.679 --> 00:58:00.679
film what you don't do the con
them mine. I just can't seem to

644
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:07.079
find a reason to believe that I
can pray free, because you see,

645
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:12.960
I don't go along like a hope
it's gone. But I never lift my

646
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:22.440
hands. I under say that I
should raise to clear my name. Just

647
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:38.079
go praising, Just go praising.
Fine, everything that could go wrong or

648
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:43.960
went wrong at one time, so
much pressure fell on me. I thought

649
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.559
I was gonna mama. I thought, I know you want to see if

650
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:52.480
I will hold on through the trials, that I need you to lift this.

651
00:58:52.320 --> 00:59:21.039
But I can't take it by any
found every kind of word God broken

652
00:59:29.000 --> 01:00:43.559
gam Well The Talking Point with Ray
Senor Changeler discussing the hot topics and answering

653
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:49.159
your questions, Saturdays, five to
seven pm on Adventist Radio London. It's

654
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:53.079
talking Point. It's talking point.
It's talking point, it's talking point.

655
01:00:53.880 --> 01:01:02.440
Conversations you need to have. It's
talking point, real conversations. Now we

656
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:12.000
need that voice. Now you need
to hear. I tried to try it.

657
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.599
And good evening to Petro if he
is in fact listening. Yes,

658
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:23.000
wherever you are good night to you. Right, So we're talking stress.

659
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:27.840
The topic in fact is what stress
got to do with it, And we've

660
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.800
come to the conclusion everything and it
just kind of mingles in every aspect of

661
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:37.239
your life. And we really have
to keep a really keen eye on stress

662
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:43.119
our stressors or triggers and just make
sure to manage them as best as we

663
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.280
can. And that's where we are
at the moment. We are talking stress

664
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:52.159
management, and very very quickly we're
going to talk about a few of the

665
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:58.400
self help and listen, you can
go online and be careful of dr Google.

666
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.480
Let me first say that, because
you might end up down the rabbit

667
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:07.559
hole. But if you've got reliable
sources like the NHS website. Mind has

668
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:12.320
a lot of information on their Mental
Health Awareness UK, So try to get

669
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:16.000
to reliable sources and once you are
online, there is a plethora of information

670
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:21.320
on stress, what it is,
what causes it, how do you manage.

671
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:28.519
Just be aware. Information is key. Knowledge is power. And when

672
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.039
we are talking about and stress management, we're talking about and the things that

673
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.880
you can do, Angie, you
can jump in with a few as well,

674
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:45.480
getting outdoors that especially well when if
on the off chance that the weather

675
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:53.280
is good, get outside and get
active. I mean you hear that every

676
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:58.119
every time, and it's not just
in terms of stress. It has wonderful

677
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.679
effects in all that's bits of life, exercise, getting active, getting outdoors,

678
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:07.880
gardening. I mean I only have
a patio, but getting my hands

679
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.599
dirty and you know, seeing the
flowers and the colors of spring really brings

680
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:16.719
me really good vibes. So get
outside. You may have a plot,

681
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.519
or you may have a garden,
or you may have the space to get

682
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.760
dirty and get you know, planting. Do that because it's really really good

683
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:32.519
for you. Another thing that you
could do is read, reading, particularly

684
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.039
reading the Word, reading the Bible. There's lots of scripture and we're going

685
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:40.079
to get into that as well.
That you know, promises that reassure us

686
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:45.159
of God's goodness, of his greatness. He's in control and we need to

687
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:52.199
be able to trust trust in him. CBT is one of them. What's

688
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:59.159
cognitive behavior behavioral therapy, And it's
just about changing the way you think and

689
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:02.159
how you process and a lot of
well, I can't say a lot,

690
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:09.719
but most of how we deal with
stress and how we think of stress has

691
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:15.559
to deal with maybe our experiences our
past. We talk about trauma. So

692
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.960
maybe if you change your thinking and
you mentioned that before, Angie as a

693
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:27.119
man thinks, so changing your thinking
could be half the battle. How you

694
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:31.320
process what you're dealing with and how
you think about what you're dealing with could

695
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:39.320
change how you react to it.
And also we're talking about meditation, reflecting,

696
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:45.920
praying, that's paramount some people.
I remember looking at a quote that

697
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:50.079
says, through life, some people
think of prayer as their spear tire,

698
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:57.880
as opposed to their steering wheel.
There is a need to put prayer first.

699
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.440
It isn't the last resort, you
know, when all has fallen apart,

700
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:03.719
when you can't do anything, when
you're at rock bottom, that's when

701
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.320
you start looking up and looking to
God. It should be the first,

702
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:13.360
our first point of call, a
port of call, praying. For some

703
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.960
it's meditation. But for us as
Christians, we understand that we're spending time

704
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.800
in the Word and spending time in
prayer and spending time connecting with God.

705
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:27.519
Have you got any others that you
can think of? I mean, as

706
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.840
you mentioned about the beginning with you're
saying that you know, don't trust.

707
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.559
There is there is a lot of
stuff online. There's some really good,

708
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.519
kind of really good resources. But
if you don't really know where to start

709
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:40.079
and you're having challenges, go to
your GP, go to your doctors and

710
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:45.159
have a talk to them about about
something. And the key thing there is

711
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.079
talking as well, because actually talking
to trusted people, friends, family,

712
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:56.480
colleagues really faster pasts your GP in
terms of you know, make sure you're

713
01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:00.840
checking yourself out there's no other medical
concerns as well, or even contacting a

714
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:05.440
helpline, you know, and helpline
like say like the Samaritans one of the

715
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:12.159
trained listeners and you know they're there
to kind of listen. You've talked about

716
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.079
loneliness or talk about some of these
things. Sometimes you haven't got people to

717
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.599
connect with, or you feel that
you're isolating yourself on people, you know,

718
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.280
that could be a good way of
doing that. But actually having that

719
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:26.960
kind of social trying to keep your
social connections right can be really can be

720
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:31.239
a really good way to manage your
stress. Can I just jump in and

721
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.480
share some information again, if you've
got your phone to hand, and it's

722
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:41.320
also very much available online. Samaritans
is one one six, one two three.

723
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.840
There's also Shout It's geared more to
our young people. And it's a

724
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:48.920
text line which is eight five two
five eight. That's eight five two five

725
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:54.519
eight. And of course Cornerstone,
which is our very own Christian counseling service.

726
01:06:54.880 --> 01:07:00.000
It's all three hundred one three three
two four nine to five. And

727
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.639
another thing actually, maybe just as
I was thinking about the song that we

728
01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:10.000
just paid Kurt Franklin about smiling.
Having smiling and having a good laugh can

729
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:13.199
be a great way to you know, relieve some of your stress. Now

730
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.239
it may not solve the problem about
what's happening, but laughter is definitely a

731
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.280
good form of exercise. You know, some of these activities that you may

732
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:26.599
do. What you're aiming to do
is bring some joy into your into your

733
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:29.800
being with what you're doing. It
will hopefull you. Really you want to

734
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.719
do things like going to release those
I often call them happy hormones things mean

735
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:40.840
serotonin, Yeah, to kind of
lift your lift, to give you a

736
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.599
lift and a bit of a boost. So all the things you mentioned,

737
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:47.280
you know, getting some sunshine,
getting outside, smiling, you know,

738
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.199
happy things that we're going to make
you laugh, whatever that could be.

739
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:56.320
It's funny because of YouTube or there's
comedy shows or you know, good healthy

740
01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:00.960
things or call it somebody who know
is gonna out for love as well,

741
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.440
doing some really good breathing exercises as
well, just really into you know,

742
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:09.679
we breathe. You know, God
has given us life, so we are

743
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:12.679
breathing. But some actually real deep
breathing. If you are feeling a moment

744
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.239
of stress, one way to kind
of calm things down, and there's different

745
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.520
basically take the way in which you're
breathing. In terms of breathing in.

746
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:23.479
You may hold it for a certain
time and then a really deep breath out

747
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.239
and do that for a few minutes. I can definitely help to kind of

748
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:33.439
reduce that feeling of overwhelm, especially
in the moment as well. And I

749
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:38.560
wanted to I think end and I'm
going to preempt in case you were going

750
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:45.319
to go there in terms of art
and music music, but I was going

751
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.880
to go into the idea of creative
arts, and I say, I said,

752
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:53.840
I must say creative arts. Then
doing something that kind of is a

753
01:08:53.920 --> 01:09:02.319
creative way to express yourself. So
about writing, journal journaling, crafting,

754
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:08.560
knitting, sewing, all of those
kind of creative things, there's a good

755
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:12.600
way to kind of you know,
you're utilizing your hands, your cognitive skills.

756
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.560
You're doing that as well. Often
with some of these things you might

757
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.159
have a finished product at the end, so that can actually make you feel

758
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:23.000
quite good, especially if you're learning
something new and you know, something like

759
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:28.600
crochet knitting, you you can make
something for yourself or somebody else, you

760
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.279
know, so there is a real
sense of achievement when you have done that,

761
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:38.119
especially for the first time. Music
art, all of those things can

762
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.600
be very creative, and there's lots
of different ways in which you can do

763
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.960
that as well. Something like coloring, there's a great way to really stress

764
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:49.600
if it helps you just to focus
momentarily. Colors, you know, all

765
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:54.680
of those things can be good for
you as well. Things like sense and

766
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.439
aromatherapy can be really good as well. So fragrance, utilizing fragrances, essential

767
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.199
oils. You know, you might
have a burner or a scented candle.

768
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:08.039
All of those kind of things can
help to relieve stress as well. You're

769
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:13.279
creating a sort of a different environment
and feelings are sort of warmth and you

770
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:18.800
know, a calming effect. I
shall plug the eucalyptus and the lavender right

771
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:25.239
here. Yes, amazing and you'll
have to find what works for you.

772
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.279
But yes, definitely it's amazing.
But I think you know, the key

773
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.359
thing is to kind of try something, find the things that work for you.

774
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:35.880
We're giving you suggestions here. It's
not saying to do everything we possibly

775
01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:40.359
can't, but one of two things. And I have to when I sometimes

776
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:44.239
when I know I'm talking to my
students about sort of self care and you

777
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.239
know, finding things that will help
you leave it your stress. One of

778
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.399
the key things I often mentioned is
about how you think about how you manage

779
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:56.199
your time. So, oh,
yes, your time management skills can tell

780
01:10:56.279 --> 01:11:00.960
me really helpful, whether that's kind
of splitting a huge task into smaller chunks

781
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.399
or giving yourself about how much time
you can do things. Plan ahead,

782
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:08.439
so if you know you've got like
a big thing coming up, think about

783
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.239
what you can do to prepare for
that as well. You know a bit

784
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.640
of planning can be really helpful.
Just a kind of perspective on stuff.

785
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.319
You know you're to do, lists
and what have you. Before we talk

786
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:24.039
a bit more about the arts,
and it's going back a little bit about

787
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:30.560
the positive thinking. Sometimes we can
feed ourselves really negative messages, but people

788
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:35.279
are getting stressful and challenging, and
sometimes it's about reframing that that could be

789
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:40.000
focusing on some of God's promises,
and there are so many bubble texts that

790
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:43.800
will remind you just how good,
how good God is, what He's got

791
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:51.479
in store for you. The plans
like Jeremiah nine eleven, you know,

792
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:55.680
plans not to see your halves as
a good thing, and we want to

793
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:58.319
we want to end with some of
that because I think that would be a

794
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:02.439
very good final word. Part of
that can be, you know, thinking

795
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.119
about what you're grateful for, other
things that you have achieved and done,

796
01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:11.000
so you know, creating your own
sort of daily gratitude list is a great

797
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:13.760
way to kind of help to release
from your stress because it can kind of

798
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:16.760
remind you that maybe not all things
are that bad. Yes, you know,

799
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:21.279
and okay, it's on different levels, but it's definitely something to try.

800
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:27.640
But definitely creativity can be a great
way to manage stress. And that's

801
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:30.560
where I think we're going to go
to the next time that Indeed, indeed,

802
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:36.399
Alan Glenn Allen is in the house. Mister Allan, how are you.

803
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.720
It's a good point to introduce you
to our listeners. We have been

804
01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:45.319
alluding to having a guest, and
it's now eighteen minutes past eight and them

805
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.199
like half past six, and they're
like, where is this guess that they've

806
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.880
been talking about. It's it's good
to have you. Thank you very much

807
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:55.439
for taking the time out to be
a part of the conversation. Thank you

808
01:12:55.560 --> 01:13:00.239
for having me. It's been an
interesting topic to listen to. It's not

809
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.439
easy with the word stress when it
comes to mind, everyone kind of goes,

810
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:10.359
you know, But in life,
we just have to use the things

811
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:15.720
that the tools that we have been
given and we can be able to move

812
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.640
forward. Yes, absolutely, I
am. I was going to ask you,

813
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.560
I mean, you don't look like
a man that's been stressed before women,

814
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.479
but of course I'm sure. I
mean, when we spoke offline,

815
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:33.479
you said it was a really busy
day for you. We kind of just

816
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:36.039
touch base on what we wanted to
discuss today, and you said that you

817
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:41.119
had so many balls struggling. And
that's often the case with us in this

818
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:45.479
modern day way of living, that
we do have so many things going on.

819
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:47.479
We do, like Angie, we
talk about it all the time.

820
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:50.960
I don't even know. Sometimes I
listen to you, Angie I'm tired because

821
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:55.239
just hearing what you've got to do
on a daily basis, or what you've

822
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:57.800
got to do just on a sabbath
or whatever it might be. So we

823
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:03.000
really do spread out ourselves very thin. And you've just talked talked about time

824
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:09.640
management as one of the issues.
We've really got to manage your time better.

825
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:13.920
But it just goes to say that
we we live very busy lives.

826
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.840
And speaking of which, tell us
a little bit about yourself and what do

827
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:25.039
you do on a day to day
basis? So how can I bring it

828
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:29.439
down? I am Can I correct
you a little bit? So it's not

829
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:38.920
Glenn Allen's Gleberg Allan gl But who
am? I? Married? Man?

830
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:45.960
One wife? Okay, that's good. So one is enough, you know,

831
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:58.319
keep your balance already. But I
have Do you have kids? I

832
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:02.319
have children, girls, one boy. Wow. So you're talking about busy

833
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:06.079
NonStop, you know, And what
do you do? What do you do

834
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:11.800
for a living? Living? And
I'm a cater I'm a chef okay,

835
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:16.760
my first love, passion, That's
what drives me most everything. Pay the

836
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:21.960
bills as well, pay the bills, that's catering, and then do events

837
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:30.199
and different things. Do you have
a restaurant or you work for you just

838
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:35.760
prepare and in the making man,
in the process. That's the plan of

839
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:41.960
the long term, go having my
own own base on restaurant. But for

840
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:46.640
now it's catering and just catering and
doing events, events and what types of

841
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:53.119
food. I mean, you're Caribbean
man, some good and all the rest

842
01:15:53.119 --> 01:16:00.680
of what is I was when I
studied there was international cops you do in

843
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:05.840
your English Italian. But then I
went and worked in the city and then

844
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:09.720
I said, okay, it's time
to me to go back to my roots.

845
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:13.439
And I went to study, well
not study, because I grew up

846
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.479
in it. So you know,
the food, the culture, and that's

847
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.760
why I've been doing things with Caribbean
food. And where do you hail from

848
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:31.000
at so our listeners will know beautiful
island of monster Rat. So you know

849
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:36.720
I'm from been here a little boy, a young man growing up so here

850
01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:44.199
noway, excellent, we're both from
ans Rat. So so forgive me if

851
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:48.439
you've just put a smile on my
face. And it's really good to see

852
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:51.479
you. It's been been a while, and I hope everyone as well.

853
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:58.000
The reason we've sort of brought you
in on this. This conversation is we're

854
01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:01.079
talking stress management, and I she
has sort of shared a lot of really

855
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:05.439
good tips as to how we can
self manage. And a little later we'll

856
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:11.680
talk some more about what we can
do and where we can go if we

857
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:16.079
need more professional or more assistance,
more help, more support. But the

858
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:24.039
two things that stuck out for me
here was how art and music can be

859
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:29.840
such a critical part of that self
care, that self help mode that we

860
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:36.000
can use to destress debunk. And
when I saw you shared a flyer with

861
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:40.840
me many moons ago about a paint
and praise event that you were doing,

862
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.159
and in fact you're having another event
shortly, and I thought this was a

863
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:47.840
good time to bring you on and
you can share a little bit of backstory,

864
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:53.399
but also share about the event that
you're having. Is it Monday?

865
01:17:53.520 --> 01:18:00.560
Monday? Monday will be the next
next event events putting on. So tell

866
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.800
us a little bit about art and
worship. We're art of worship. It's

867
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:08.279
combining. In my head, it's
combining art with worship. That's what it

868
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:11.960
says on the tin. But tell
me how how did this come about?

869
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.840
Have you always loved art? I
know you love you talking about being a

870
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:19.119
chef and loving the kitchen. But
where does this stem from? Where does

871
01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:24.439
this stem from? Well, two
thousand, I've always wanted to do events,

872
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:28.680
so that's been my field being a
Christian. For one, there's always

873
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.840
been a thing of where can we
go, what can we do I hear

874
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.680
that, you know, to be
stressed or find somewhere that I feel safe

875
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:42.079
and I feel I can be myself. So that's one of the things.

876
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:45.119
That's a key thing. I mean, I feel like you should say that

877
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:53.680
again, Yes, definitely. But
Art of Worship was born in two thousand,

878
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:59.159
twenty twenty and that was COVID,
Yes, COVID, So the first

879
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:02.520
one was put out, unfortunately had
to shut it down because COVID K.

880
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:10.079
Then it kind of went quiet,
nothing was going on, and just I

881
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.439
think the first one was last year
that I did twenty twenty three. So

882
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:17.159
it's just something I'd say. It
was just a space that I was creating

883
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:27.279
for like minded people who just wanted
somewhere to go to be comfortable with who

884
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:33.119
you are, celebrating Christ, celebrating
whatever you're going for, just to be

885
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:40.000
at So that's why it came about. Kind of why art, what why

886
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:45.119
you know, it's a place where
you can escape. It's whatever you want

887
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:49.880
in that picture is where you want
to be. So that's one of the

888
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:55.039
things that I wanted to put out
there. Yes, I do. We

889
01:19:55.159 --> 01:20:00.079
sometimes have themes, and the last
one we did was amazing, Like I

890
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:04.399
put a theme out there and the
things that people put onto their canvases.

891
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:10.439
You how do you get that out
of this? Drawing from what I said

892
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:14.000
and someone else did this, and
you think, okay, so we all

893
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:15.880
come in along the same journey.
We may see the same things, but

894
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.159
how we do deal with it is
different. But at least we got to

895
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:26.039
express that feeling that we had inside
of us, you know. So it

896
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:29.039
was really nice. Good. Well, can I ask what the theme was?

897
01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:33.680
You remember so many of us are
walking a lung of the journey and

898
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:39.000
we don't really know there's a song
through God size, isn't there. Maybe

899
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:41.800
I'm I'll see if I can find
it, But yes, I think I've

900
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:48.880
heard it. It's just it's like
to three people come out. It was

901
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:54.880
did The feedback was wonderful. Everyone
was like, you know, I've been

902
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:58.600
looking for something like this where I
can just go and just kind of at

903
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:01.880
least a distress and really relax and
feel just chilled, you know, And

904
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:08.359
that was really an amazing feeling.
I had to see it fulfilled. And

905
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:12.479
so there's an art element, and
you're talking about people having campus and just

906
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:18.039
expressing themselves and and that's an important
part of distressing. But there's a worship

907
01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:23.000
element. So you've got a Christian
background, are you? S d A.

908
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:31.439
My church is Edmonton, so shadow
Edminton seventy Adventors. You know,

909
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.079
I've been I grew up in the
church and I've stayed in the church,

910
01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:39.079
and I love the church. I
couldn't see no other way. Pray for

911
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:43.720
me personally. It keeps you grounded
to something because you know, you just

912
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:49.479
it's a crazy world so much to
draw you far away and then you kind

913
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:58.359
of thing why, But yeah,
it's just trying to be the best perversion

914
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:00.680
of yourself to be a Christian.
So how do you introduce the worship?

915
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:04.119
But what do you have? Bad? Do you have people singing? How

916
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:11.960
do I have a righte guest artists? We will have have life DJ there

917
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:17.000
that's spending some nice, very good
music we have I'm already interested. We

918
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:21.000
have a sing along moment, we
have our pastor Mike moment where the last

919
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:26.880
one was, hey, don't judge
a book by its cover, guys,

920
01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:31.720
because some of the people that was
singing, you wouldn't think, how did

921
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.239
you do that? You know what
I mean? So it was amazing.

922
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:39.359
It was really good. The music. We had a prayer session, you

923
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:46.000
know, literally in the moment happened. And it's not just for seven Adventus.

924
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:50.680
It was open. It was open
doors to everyone who is a believer

925
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:55.720
of God, and that's all I
wanted to see a room full of that

926
01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.119
and it was it was good.
Wow, that's amazing. And do you

927
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:09.720
have a question or anything to add
I was gonna say, it's interesting as

928
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.800
you said that you when we were
talking about creative you know, utilizing creativity

929
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.239
as well, and the idea that
people can come and kind of utilize that

930
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:20.039
space to express themselves. Were we
a lot of people when they came.

931
01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:24.119
Were they kind of people that were
interested in asks or were they people who

932
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:27.560
did never necessarily were done anything like
that before this was the first time.

933
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.720
What was the kind of says the
range of people who were there, and

934
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:36.840
you know, from theatritically inclined or
from the feedback that I got it was

935
01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:43.880
all around them. So you had
people that just wanted some food and to

936
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:47.119
chill, people that just came.
Let's they wanted some bospel music. They

937
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:51.159
came, they didn't want So there
was two tickets to form of tickets that

938
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:56.319
you can come and just paint or
you can just come and worship people.

939
01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:59.800
So we had people that was just
they say, they came in and they

940
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:02.279
did it's on the table to listen
to gospel music. And it was like,

941
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:05.720
do you sure you don't want to
do nothing? No. When I

942
01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:09.039
did it, I didn't think like, oh, you look kind of weird.

943
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:12.359
But it was beautiful. It was
wonderful because they came and it took

944
01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:15.279
part, so it was every bit
of a bottle. Some people came,

945
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:19.560
some real artists showed up. That
was like, okay, I think this

946
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:24.319
is not your level, but you
were amazing and everyone was inspired by it.

947
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:30.840
Everyone. But it was all one
environment of just putting out your feelings

948
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.359
onto your campus. And do you
did you just to feedback on that question,

949
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.239
did you have a range of ages
as well? So do you get

950
01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:43.560
most of young people or For me, I don't know, I was a

951
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:47.279
bit selfish. I kind of went
for my age group. You know,

952
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.520
I wanted to get young people.
So it was the age group was from

953
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:56.640
twenty one up, so because you
know many a time, that's the that's

954
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.920
the area where now you want to
go and find other things to do.

955
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.359
So I was just thinking, what
could we draw these young people to do.

956
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:09.439
And it was it was a mixed
room. I had fifty plus,

957
01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:12.439
I had twenty plus. You know, it was a mix. It was

958
01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.640
really good. So it was not
I didn't It was not just aimed at

959
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:21.600
one particular age or one youthful.
You would just come and have a good

960
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:27.479
time, wow, and this worship
and let's do something while we're worshiping instead

961
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:30.920
of you know what does it?
Love? Sorry, I love the idea

962
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.159
that it was quite intergenerational as well, because I think there's something to be

963
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:39.880
said about making those connections, Yes, enridging the gap. Yeah, I

964
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:43.479
can come together, be inspired of
each other, learn from each other,

965
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:46.279
and enjoyed spending time with each other
as well. You know we're talking about

966
01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:50.920
connections, family, church, all
those things. So yeah, I love

967
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:55.840
that. And art and music does
that? Isn't it that they they are

968
01:25:55.880 --> 01:26:00.079
great connectors, you know, any
any culture, any age, any religion.

969
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:05.119
You know, there's there's a h
a combining or bringing together that ye

970
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:12.560
art and music does a music is
It didn't even go there yet, but

971
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:18.920
yeah, you know, music doesn't
how old you are, how your age

972
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:25.000
is. Because I had some people
were dancing, like literally putting the chair

973
01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:28.760
aside and they were dancing. And
these were not young people. These are

974
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:32.199
not old people, but these were
the people enjoying theirselves. And I was

975
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.840
just like, okay, you know, the DJ was, you know,

976
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:38.720
if you read in the room,
we had our worship session, and I

977
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.760
said, we had we had a
prayer board that kind of was born in

978
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:45.920
the moment, and I was when
I did it, I was like,

979
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.000
okay, I don't know how it's
gonna go. But by the time the

980
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:55.760
board reached the end of back to
me, I was before yeah, And

981
01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:59.199
you know, we said a prayer
over it, and I just hope and

982
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:02.760
pray that whatever they put on there, that God answered their prayers because they

983
01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:06.239
were earnest and honest in that they
could have said, no, I'm not

984
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:11.039
sure, because you know, when
no one really asks what religion you are,

985
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:15.560
all they need to know is your
follow of Christ. And that was

986
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:18.319
one of the things that I was
really watching that environment for and I was

987
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:24.520
so proud. They say, I
follow God. So it was good.

988
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:31.000
It's really good that a good event, tell me, because we've we've touched

989
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.960
on it a little bit, but
not in full. You're saying that there's

990
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:39.720
good food to be had at the
event as well. Well. Is the

991
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:43.960
food part of it is a blessing
because you're lucky to have to hat wear

992
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:50.760
two hats. I'm an entertainer and
I feed the people, so that's covered

993
01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:55.960
by by myself, which is Emo
Spice. That's my other company name.

994
01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:01.520
But so if you are looking cateristic, you know, and you'll be blessed.

995
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:08.239
But they were, Yeah, it
was covered. We have vegans with

996
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:12.479
the vegetarian, you know, we
cover for the meat and the chick.

997
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:15.760
You know. We did it all
and it was it went down well.

998
01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:21.199
It was all good. Feedback from
maybe one with what happened that day fabulous.

999
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:29.000
I want to ask another question as
well, in terms of help and

1000
01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:33.399
support, because you're one man sat
in front of me, and it sounds

1001
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:41.520
like you are operating as a team
of twenty. What who do you my

1002
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:45.119
team? What you know? Who
do you thank at the end of the

1003
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:50.279
day. Thank my family, my
family, you know, they've had my

1004
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:57.560
back from this moment of entering the
world of events. So my family,

1005
01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:01.680
my wife for one, she's been
amazing. And I'd probably drive a crazy

1006
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:06.560
doing that, like always thinking of
ideas, but I have to say,

1007
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:13.039
you've redeemed yourself. But yeah,
you know, we pushed it, we

1008
01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.520
pulled, we pulled together, and
we get it done. When I call,

1009
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:18.880
get it when they feed the phone
call coming, they know what time

1010
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:23.319
it is and they just jump up
and they support me all the way through.

1011
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.840
Wow. Appreciated of that. Thank
you very much to my family for

1012
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:30.560
that. Okay, good good stuff. All right, let's take another quick

1013
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:35.960
break, some more and some more
stress busters. Angie, I want you

1014
01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:40.800
to maybe share a little bit.
You had a story that we were you

1015
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:44.279
were sharing offline, and we can
share it with our listeners. The story

1016
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:48.399
behind this next track. It's Jordan
g Welch and it took the internet by

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01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:53.960
storm. There's a little clip that
was shared maybe a few weeks ago and

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01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.680
it just kind of resonated with so
many And that's the thing about music as

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01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.039
well, it just hits you a
little differently to ending on where you're at

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01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:04.640
and what your struggle may be,
and you spoke about that this week open.

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01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:09.479
Yeah, you know sometimes that many
people, you know, you're scrolling

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01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:13.680
through on social media and I do
come across that clip. But you know,

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because some of our listeners may know
this as well, I've you know,

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01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.079
put with my mum who is living
with those times at the moment,

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and a full time care as well
as holding down a full time job.

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01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:26.720
At the moment, I'm really struggling
with my work and I've got very behind

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01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.359
and just not in a great place
of all of that. So I've had

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01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:30.600
a really tough week this week trying
to sort of, you know, get

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01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:34.039
back on track and get to a
place where you know, ideally have Probably

1030
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:38.439
if I could give up work and
you're caring full time, I probably would,

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01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:41.640
But there's so many listen, there
are millions. I was looking at

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01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:45.840
the statistics, there are millions of
us out there unpaid cares. But yeah,

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01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:47.239
you know, I solute to hold
it down, and it's you know,

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01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:50.000
it's a struggle, and at the
moment, I'm really struggling. And

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01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:53.399
you know, I remember sort of
sitting, you know, I work from

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01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:56.680
home, and I remember sitting taking
a bit of a break and scrolling through

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01:30:56.680 --> 01:31:00.600
and I came across that clip,
but it was actually linked to a lady

1038
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:04.039
that I follow on social media who's
in a similar position, caring for her

1039
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:09.119
mom with Alzheimer's, and she was
it was basically a clip over where she

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01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:12.520
was offering some kind of support to
her mum. I think she was kind

1041
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.319
of rubbing her back and massaging her
hands, and it was just a really

1042
01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.399
poignant moment, that kind of thing, you know, which she might not

1043
01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:21.439
know, and her mother is much
more forign advance and say my mom is,

1044
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:25.760
but it was almost like, you
know, I don't necessarily know what's

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01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:29.800
going on because her mom is can't
communicate, but she knows that when she

1046
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.920
sings and when she's kind of you
know, after touch, because she was

1047
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:36.680
massaging her hands, it really made
a difference. And then hearing that song

1048
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:41.640
over it was just so poignant and
I just remember thinking, oh, my

1049
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.239
goodness, I know, despite whatever's
going on, there are other people who

1050
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:48.159
are in a similar situation. But
that piece of music and the words and

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01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:51.960
the way the ladies sung it,
which just almost brought me to tears because

1052
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:56.319
you put everything to perspective to say, you know what as much as things

1053
01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.119
are stressful, God is there and
he's saying to you know, open your

1054
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.560
eyes, open your heart, you
know, quite in the noise that's in

1055
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:06.720
your mind, and listen to me
because I'm here. So for me,

1056
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.319
that song has been on repeat all
week because it just made me stop for

1057
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:14.600
a moment because you know, you
get very panicked, you get very stressed,

1058
01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:18.199
and you feel overwhelmed, but you
know, God is saying to us,

1059
01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:21.479
you know, open your heart,
open your mind, open your eyes.

1060
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:26.000
You know, he wants us to
see him and when we do,

1061
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.319
he's right there and He's always there. We know that sometimes and sometimes we

1062
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.159
get his messages in strange ways.
So you know, thank you Jordan Jee.

1063
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:35.159
And then I kind of got into
a bit of a I'm listening to

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01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:39.359
loads of the stuff that she does. Is a great worship leader. She

1065
01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:43.479
brings people together to sing, and
just seeing all that was just really inspirational

1066
01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:47.199
in that moment. So yeah,
that's my full story behind us that sometimes

1067
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:50.720
it is about the uplifting, but
sometimes it is about quieting and a gentleman

1068
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:56.119
and the reflection, the moments of
reflection. So we've shifted the mood a

1069
01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.600
little bit. We had upbeat earlier, but now it's just moments of reflection.

1070
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:04.119
Uh. Can I call you Glenn? All right? You chose more

1071
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:09.039
than this, City Winans. Is
there a backstory to that or it's just

1072
01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:14.039
one of your favorites? I are
you thinking of the music more than this?

1073
01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:16.880
God is more than this? And
that's what I thought. I thought,

1074
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:21.039
there's nothing more better than this.
Hey man, That's that's enough.

1075
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:29.880
All right. Let's hear from Jordan
g Welch and City Winans. Hope Billy

1076
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:41.239
us from my heart, Lord Hopillius
and my heart. I want to shee.

1077
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:59.279
I want to see Hope Bius am
my heart, Lord, hoping us

1078
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:15.399
my heart. I wanna see.
I want to see silence the noise in

1079
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:26.279
my mind, Lord and hoping the
eyes of my heart. I wanna see.

1080
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:42.920
I want to see silence, the
noise in my mind, hoping the

1081
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:57.479
eyes of my heart. I wanna
see. I want to see. To

1082
01:34:57.680 --> 01:35:08.439
see you high and lifted it up, shining in the light of your glory.

1083
01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:20.119
Pour out Cha power and love as
we seen, Holy Holy Holy,

1084
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:33.680
to see you hide love dead,
shining in the light of your glory.

1085
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:47.439
Pour outch power and love as we
sing, Holy, Holy, Holy,

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01:35:50.840 --> 01:36:04.239
So hopingly to my heart, hopingly
as my heart. I want to see.

1087
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:26.840
I want to see hopingly eyes and
my heart lor hoping lead of my

1088
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:43.720
heart. I want to see.
I want to see. I want to

1089
01:36:43.800 --> 01:37:00.520
see. I want to see.
I need to eat. Oh all,

1090
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:16.359
I want to hear. I want
to know. I want to love you.

1091
01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:40.920
I want to see. I want
to see. So halleluyah, God

1092
01:37:41.279 --> 01:38:02.319
he loud, Halleluyah, oh Man, Halleua found the food read five okay

1093
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:48.439
to Hallellua fine is your glory hallea, oh hallelua. Fine. Till I

1094
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:59.640
reach my goal and I see your
face, I will forever about and worse

1095
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:15.279
till I hear it in my assignments
through I will forever bound any worship.

1096
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:31.199
I'll give you more more than this. I'll give it b more than this,

1097
01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:41.960
not just the little, not just
the power of me. So you

1098
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:50.840
a all tears and there's no more. Okay. I will forever bud anywhere

1099
01:39:51.439 --> 01:40:03.840
sat you till you quet this guy
and the daddle rocks. I will forever

1100
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:18.880
and worlds shall you said. I'll
give you an I'll give you a call

1101
01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:32.720
more than this, not just the
little, not just the car, not

1102
01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:48.000
just the not just the car and
everything. I will lay it down,

1103
01:40:48.720 --> 01:41:02.840
ay of my whole I've poured out
at all for Lor right here and now

1104
01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:28.359
a line easier read. I'm lay
down my line for how man or worn

1105
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:42.399
lor I here written. Now,
oh easy, I'll give you a ball

1106
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:57.359
or that miss. I'll give you
more than this. I'll just come down

1107
01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:10.079
now just go car, get you. I'll getting your ball more than listen.

1108
01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:26.520
I don't mean I'm getting you all. I'm just a lout. I'm

1109
01:42:26.840 --> 01:43:04.800
just a a hard chriss. Hold
lord you my life is old to word

1110
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:23.840
shoop you my hard crises or Lord
you are my life is too words my

1111
01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:38.880
cor so holy Lord, you love
my fans a cho ship lord, no

1112
01:43:39.760 --> 01:44:02.079
class, Lord you know fans to
ship you come. Everybody say that gives

1113
01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:25.800
a lad up words and ship time, way up, chill ship. Why

1114
01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:55.119
is some good boys h say holada
wall tell you what. I'll give you

1115
01:44:55.319 --> 01:45:10.560
a mo. I'll give you more
more than this. I trust a little,

1116
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:38.039
I trust uh me, but I'll
give you a m I'll trust a

1117
01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:46.479
little. Give it one more time
saying I'll give you. I'll give you

1118
01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:49.359
just not just come on and get
along right, Sorry about that. Just

1119
01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:57.520
working out some technical bits and pieces. I think we're live on our individual

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01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:00.000
Instagram accounts, so we're going to
work out how we can also be live

1121
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:04.680
on Adventist Radio. But for those
joining us, happy to see you,

1122
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:12.680
wonderful lovely guys, say something testing
testing, make sure that you're class good

1123
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:15.760
evening, good, good evening.
Yes, and thank you for joining us.

1124
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:21.800
We are live on We are live
on Live Redio London. Thank you

1125
01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:27.119
for joining our show. Talking points, Gosh, we're live everywhere and we

1126
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:30.279
have been Yes. So we've been
talking about stress today and how we can

1127
01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:34.600
manage our stress, and we've been
sharing some of our own tips and things

1128
01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:38.920
that we do. Have been sharing
music, which is a great way to

1129
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:43.560
release some stress, and then we
have segued nicely into talking a little bit

1130
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:47.520
about how creativity and the arts can
help leave it our stress, which is

1131
01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:54.359
where our guest with us today,
Glenn is sharing an event that he has

1132
01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:59.199
is putting on and has put on
before. So Glenn was, then you've

1133
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:02.760
got anything that's done that No,
because our time as usual is fast spent.

1134
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.359
Glenn tell us a little bit about
paint and praise, which is the

1135
01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:12.159
event you're having to on Monday.
Paint and Praise this Monday, start at

1136
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:16.880
eleven thirty, finish at four o'clock. You can go and purchase tickets.

1137
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:19.800
Still they're still an they are going
very fast. While I've been here,

1138
01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:27.039
God is moved and I've just seen
some tickets vider shifting. Hey, if

1139
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.640
you are interested, go on too, event, write and type, painting,

1140
01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:36.239
praise and the rest is up to
you. Look forward to seeing you

1141
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:41.479
all. Thanks for having me on
this radio station today with you a talking

1142
01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:44.840
point. I appreciate it all.
I know you're going to come back.

1143
01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:48.439
I've already. I mean, I
shamelessly asked all our guests to be prepared

1144
01:48:48.520 --> 01:48:54.199
for a part two. But tell
us just just a little bit of the

1145
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:57.840
details. So Paint and Praise happens
where where? Where is the event actually

1146
01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:04.319
going to be physically house, It's
a church in Edmonton off Montaviue Road.

1147
01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:13.159
So doors open eleven thirty. It's
a day brunch. If it's a day

1148
01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:16.279
to relax, day to onwine,
leave the you know, somebody to come

1149
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:21.079
and distress yourself. Come and just
meet like minded people. I have conversations

1150
01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:26.079
with different people that you wouldn't have
because this space, I must say it's

1151
01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:30.560
open to all. So when the
people that come, it's all a blessing.

1152
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:34.079
Everyone has the story, everyone has
something that they can enhance learn from.

1153
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:39.560
Okay, and this is you come. You get food is included,

1154
01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:43.359
and you get your canvas and your
painting supplies. Yes, so yeah,

1155
01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:49.119
so you have There is two styles
of tickets, so I do have not

1156
01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:55.119
want to get no food. You
can just get your tickets and just come

1157
01:49:55.159 --> 01:50:00.279
and paint and enjoy the atmosphere and
the music. And if you do your

1158
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:04.479
food, it's a package to get
food, canvas, music and the environment.

1159
01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:08.319
All right, and please can you
collect me with the Gospel DJ.

1160
01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:13.600
I want to have a word please, no problem, No problem. I

1161
01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:18.680
will tell you who that in a
straight after this. Indeed, Glenn just

1162
01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:20.600
I mean, I know we spent
a little bit on the show, but

1163
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:24.600
for anybody who's been joining up Live, tell us a little bit about what's

1164
01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:28.800
been your inspiration as to why you've
put this, why you're putting this event

1165
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:35.159
on. So the whole reason for
this is just a space for Christian people

1166
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:42.359
to go. I you said most
places where to go it's either you know,

1167
01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:46.680
secular places environments where you're not going
to hear the music you want to

1168
01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:49.520
hear, or you just want to
stay in a certain mind. You go

1169
01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:53.720
to church, you leave church,
and then all of a sudden you hear

1170
01:50:53.800 --> 01:50:58.399
boom boom boom in your head.
How do how do you transition to just

1171
01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:03.000
stay in a certain space. So
instead of going and getting into a certain

1172
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:10.720
space, I create a space where
you can come and wear ships and here,

1173
01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:15.439
certain testimony. Here. Yeah,
just a space for people who just

1174
01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:20.560
wants to be in a Christian environment. So you're talking timony Christians. It's

1175
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:27.119
not just for Christians. It's just
it's a Christian based event. But anyone

1176
01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:32.199
can come, right We Christian followers
may go to other events. This is

1177
01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:38.000
open to everybody. If I try
my best to food, music, and

1178
01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:43.720
entertainment. So what else would anyone
want? It's there for you. It's

1179
01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:45.239
not just for you to be If
you know a follow up christ, it

1180
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:49.359
doesn't matter. You still can come
and be a part of this and you

1181
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:54.479
can be who you want to be. And that's it. Oh wow,

1182
01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:58.960
it sounds amazing, It sounds amazing. I'm really looking forward. If I

1183
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:02.239
can't be at this one coming Monday, I certainly will keep keep an air

1184
01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:05.479
out. How do people find out? How do people connect with you?

1185
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:10.720
So, if you're if you're listening
to us right now, I wanted to

1186
01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:12.680
take your phone. I know you
have your phone in your hand. Of

1187
01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:16.640
course I need to type in art
of Worship. Once you go into Instagram,

1188
01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:20.680
type art of Worship and you will
find more information there. If you

1189
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:25.920
want to contact me, I can
give you my number which is zero seven

1190
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:32.760
five. Sorry, go back five
one zero seven six one zero. I'll

1191
01:52:32.800 --> 01:52:38.279
say it again, zero seven five
one. Oh my goodness, apologies.

1192
01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:43.479
Tell you what? Tell you what? Give me your information. If anybody

1193
01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:45.760
wants to get in touch with you, they can come to us here at

1194
01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:48.800
Adventus Radio. Also they can DM
you. I love to say it,

1195
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:53.319
Oh my gosh. They can slip
into your DMS and get to you directly

1196
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:57.960
anyway. So once they're on Art
of Worship they'll be able to connect with

1197
01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:01.199
you there. And of course you
do catering, so I'm just plugging for

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01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:04.960
you. If anybody has an event
or anything like that that they'd like some

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01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:11.760
good, good home cooked Caribbean food, then they can also connect with you

1200
01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:15.039
there too. That a big conversation, you know, for the healthy eaters,

1201
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:20.119
I do meal preps. So if
you want your your whole weekly plan,

1202
01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:27.439
I do all of a dat everything
my barket and it's been a journey

1203
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:30.880
in events and trying to build myself
to be the person I want to be

1204
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:35.439
for Christ. Of course, dresses
and things come along the way it was

1205
01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:42.199
with their story. But you have
to find ways to tap into the resources

1206
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:44.960
are there? Do you listen to
the show? There's places you can go

1207
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:47.319
and get help and people to talk
to. Don't don't hold it in.

1208
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:54.479
Hey, you know very important type
circle who you can trust. And yeah,

1209
01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:59.640
I just to reiterate as our time
always always just flies by the last

1210
01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:05.199
minute. You if if these self
help tips and strategies we've shared with you,

1211
01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:10.319
maybe you've exhausted them all, maybe
you've tried and you feel that you

1212
01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:15.520
need more help than that. Please
tap into your GP go and have a

1213
01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:18.840
word. They'll be able to refer
you or signpost you. We also have

1214
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:28.399
our Christian Connection where you can zero
three sorry zero three three zero one three

1215
01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:31.119
three two four nine five connect with
someone who you can speak to. They're

1216
01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:36.600
a qualified therapist on board. Also
very easily you can pick up the phone

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one one six, one two three
for Samaritans, and you can also connect.

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There are several charities, et cetera
that provide support. If you are

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struggling, you feel your drowning,
and you know self help isn't quite working

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for you, then do not,
as Glenn said, struggle alone. And

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again there are events such like his
that you can go to and just meet

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like minded people, just unwind,
take your mind off the issues and struggles

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and just have a really good time. And you were running out of time,

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why don't you leave us with a
few scriptures and maybe a prayer to

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close? Well, there were so
many. I mean, we've talked again

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on many of our shows about how
God just gives us so many words of

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encouragements, messages of things that we
can do. It just remind us us

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how great He is. As I
thought of one ten says, so do

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not fear that I am with you. Do not be displayed, for I

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am your God, and I love
this one. This is all of my

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favorite texts. I will strengthen you, and I will help you. I

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will help you. I'll hold you
with my righteous right hands. I visualize

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God holding my hands, picking me
up, clutching me, holding me.

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When I'm feeling stressed and overwhelmed.
And in Philippines four, verse sixty seven,

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it says, do not be anxious
about anything, but in every situation,

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by prayer and petition and thanksgiving,
present your requests to God. He's

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saying, to tell him everything.
And the peace of God, which transcends

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all understand, will guard your hearts, on your minds in Christ Jesus.

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And then to remind you that you
know we are to turn to Him in

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times of trouble and stress, he
says, humble yourselves, therefore under God's

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mighty hands, that he may lift
you up in due time. Cast all

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your anxieties, your cares, your
worries, everything on him because He cares

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for you. And that's first Peter
five, verse six or seven. There

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are so many promises. I mean, I could be here for hours going

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through praise God. So want to
I want to encourage anybody who's listening,

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and thank you for joining us on
talking point today. Thank you Glenn for

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the work that you're doing and the
inspiration for the event that you're putting on.

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And just to remind anybody who there
is struggling, there is there are

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people to help you. God has
blessed people with gifts to be able to

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be great listeners, people who can
support you, people who can lift you

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up. So do reach out to
them if you feel but ultimately know that

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God is there with you. He
will bring you through those times of trouble

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and He will be able to encourage
and support you, and He loves and

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cares for you. And if you
don't know God and you're listening to this,

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you know, try him. He
can be a blessing to you.

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So I'm gonna thank you again for
joining us life. This is an exciting

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moment. Oh my goodness. So
you know, and you know, even

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things like this, you know sometimes
it can be stressful, but you know

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there is always a way, there's
always a solution, there's always ways to

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leave it stress. So I want
to encourage you as you go through the

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rest of this evening, think about
how you can get closer to people,

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met those connections and think about how
you can do those things. So leave

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it at your own stress. So
I'm going to close Talking Point show to

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today with the prayer and do John's
again next week from five till seven Adventist

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Radio London. Do get in contact
with us. We'd love to hear you

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and if you have a story that
you'd like to come on the show about

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something that you're doing to impact the
community, get in touch with us.

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Do you want to give us a
detail, I certainly can. It is

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studio at Adventist Radio dot London.
Or you can text eight triple to eight

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hope space and then your message,
or you can what's up on zero seven

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four five nine six four two eight
nine eight. Okay, let's pray,

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Father God. I want to thank
you so much for being such a wonderful

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God. I want to thank you
for being there for us no matter what,

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Dear Lord, and I pray that
the things that we've been talking about

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today will be a blessing, will
be an inspiration to those who have been

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listening. Dear Lord. We lead
a stressful often many of us lead a

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stressful life, Dear Lord, and
sometimes we never know what's going on.

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But as you said, you know
the plans that you have for us.

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You have plans for to prosper and
not to harm us, plans to give

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us hope for a future. We
sometimes don't know what's happening, Dear Lord,

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and there are so many those things
that around that sometimes make us waiver

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with our trusting you. But thank
you, Dear Lord, for the other

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promises that reminds us that you are
there for us and that we can put

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our full trust and hope in you. I thank you, Dear Lord,

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for those people who are there who
can support anybody who's going through troubling times,

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Dear Lord, and I'd encourage anyone
to reach out to them as well,

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to get the help that they need
and recognize that they don't have to

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struggle alone. I thank you for
everything you are doing for everybody in their

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lives, Dear Lord. I thank
Glenn for being with us today, and

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I pray that you bless his event
tomorrow, that that will be a witness

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to just how good you are and
how you can inspire people to make a

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difference themselves. I thank you God
everything. I ask the blessings for this

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new week that's coming up, and
I pray to Lord that you bless and

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keep everyone here. I thank you
for hearing and answering, because you are

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indeed and awesome God. This is
my prayer. Amen, Amen and amen,

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Thank you guys, and that yeah, luckily you're spilling into Saturday night

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praise, so that's all good.
That's with me, So I believe there

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was a show ahead. God bless
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