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This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're
listening to k I Am six forty,

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the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show on demand
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You have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walls Show.

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Well, if you're new to my
show, let me tell you this.

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I have a PhD in clinical psychology, but I'm not a therapist.

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I'm a psychology professor, and I
am obsessed with the science of love and

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all are very important interpersonal relationships.
On today's show, cognitive biases doesn't sound

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sexy, does it? Until I
say the rest that mess up our love

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lives. Yeah, there are tricks
that our brains naturally play on us that

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make us make those bad decisions in
love. Also some of the most common

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relationship mistakes that people make. I
put together this list and I am convinced

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that if you just change these few
things, you can have a happy relationship.

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Plus, I'll be taking your calls
and answering your relationship questions from social

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media. Also, later in the
show, I have a very special guest,

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an eye surgeon who can change the
color of your eyes. You won't

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believe this but before we get there, I have been in Los Angeles media

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for I'm embarrassed to say thirty years. You may know me because I used

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to anchor at KCOP that then became
UPN in the early nineties. Left there,

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I was over at Extra. I
hosted at least fifty different cable half

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hours as cable was bursting and going
on. In twenty twelve was doctor Phil

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picked me to be on The Doctors. I've been around media for a long

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time, covering entertainment, covering once
I you know, I got a midlife

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PhD, come back to media with
a little bit of knowledge, and one

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of the people I knew as a
colleague for a good thirty years was KTLA's

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entertainment reporter Sam Rubin. And you
know, if you've been listening to any

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media in the last forty eight hours, you know that our heart goes out

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to Sam's family because he passed away
on Friday morning. It was so distressful

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for me because he wasn't much older
than me, because he was a solid

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fixture that was just always there.
I spent a lot of time with Sam

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recently because in the last few years, I've also been a love correspondent for

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the Today Show in Australia. In
Australia nine Network, as they call it,

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Sam is their entertainment reporter. I'm
their psychological experts. So they would

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have me weigh in and a few
times a month we would meet in a

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green room in Hollywood and he would
do a segment before me, and then

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I would do a segment, and
then he had to wait another hour for

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his next segment. So we always
had time to sit in the green room

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in the afternoon and just talk about
life. He talked about raising his kids.

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Sometimes he had some of his young
adult teen kids with him. I

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had mine there sometimes, and he
knew a little bit about everything, and

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he was probably the most positive,
jovial, happy person that I knew.

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But the thing I'm mad about for
me is how much I just took people

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like Sam Rubin for granted. They
were just always there. They were a

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consistent fixture in my life, have
been. They were just somebody in the

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business you saw regularly. They were
a good friend, and Sam was special.

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And the reason why he was on
air for more than thirty years in

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Los Angeles is because he never lost
his Midwest attitude. He was always kind

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to every celebrity, didn't have a
bad word. He wasn't a deep gossiper.

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But here's something you didn't know about
Sam. His work ethic was beyond

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I was in awe. First of
all, he lived in the Pacific Palisades.

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I just I'm only telling you this. You can picture the freeways.

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And he would get drive early in
the morning to do the KTLA Morning Shoe

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Show by six am, and so
he drives all across it, does his

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segments there, then drives back to
the Palisades, churns out a few blogs,

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makes some other videos for other clients, comes back for the afternoon show,

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and then afterwards would go to red
carpets like two three times a week

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at events. And I said to
him one day, Sam, are you

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ever going to wind down? And
he said, no, I got two

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kids still heading to college. I'm
never going to stop. And I love

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it. I love it, he
said. Here's a clip of Sam retrospectively

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looking at what he thought his career
was going to be, like, I

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was just how I'm meant to live. Could I do backup for you guys?

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I think he got no work to
do. Brun I love Sam Rubens

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so much. Sam's the great.
Sam is the most talented entertainment reporter and

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anchor I've ever met. I've kind
of always wanted to do this. So

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when I first got in the morning
News, oh, I was like,

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I can't believe I'm sitting here,
and I hope I can sit here for

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a long time. Kermit. What
I thought was very magnanimous of you,

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But I certainly liked using the word
magnanimous. Yes, look at you.

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You thank you. Somebody with your
little glasses, I see it. I'll

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say this isn't without vanity, but
it probably is. I thought, oh

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my gosh, you know everybody's going
to watch. Everybody's gonna see me.

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And maybe two weeks in I realized
nobody's watching. My mother would watch for

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one hour a day, and her
great review was, you know, one

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hour day, it's all I can
take. You know, I figured this

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was not going well. Sam's self
deprecating humor. We were all watching you,

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Sam, we were all learning from
you, and our heart goes out

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to your family this week. So
what does this mean to us? When

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we lose a pear? A little
piece of all of us die because all

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of our relationships, whether they're friendships, whether they're work colleagues, they are

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a piece of our identity. And
when we lose somebody, and especially if

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it's somebody close to you, you
actually a piece of yourself dies that you

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have to find a way to rebuild
that within yourself. It happens to also

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be Mother's Day, and there are
many people out there who have lost their

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mother. I lost my mother when
I was thirty. Kayla lost her mother

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when she was young. It's a
time of sadness. I just want to

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say, because I'm going to say
it live on air. And I'm feeling

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very melancholy today. Melanchocky Is that
a word? No, that's called melanchochy.

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Gotcha, gotcha. I'm feeling very
melancholy because my nest is almost empty.

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I got one about to fly.
She's got little baby wings and about

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to take off. She was sending
me pictures of apartments. Today I got

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another living all the way across the
pond in Paris. And in the last

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how long have you been with me? Kayla? Two years? Three years?

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Oh, three years? My producer, Kayla Austin has been my adoptive

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daughter, of course, and she's
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Her when I was really young.
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no, no, I wanted to
say that, ye think. Yeah,

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okay, literally could have been my
daughter and I would have been even an

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older mom having her, and so
so Kayla has assumed the position, if

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you will, so on air,
I just want to say, Kayla,

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thank you for being my surrogate replacement
daughter during this. No one's going anywhere,

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right, this is not an ending
or goodbye. I just want to

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say that it is Mother's Day and
Kayla brought me some lovely Mother's Day gifts

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and I'm just so grateful to you. I love you deep. Happy Mother's

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Day. I'm gonna light that candle. I'm a little massage. She was

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really generous, so sweet, so
so sweet. All right, let's get

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off all the sad and melancholy folks. So I hope you had a great

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time with your mom today and you
at least picked up a phone and called

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her. All right, let's talk
about the cognitive biases that can really mess

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up our love lives, tricks our
brains play on us. When we come

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back. You are listening to the
Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six

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Walsh on demand from KFI AM six
forty. KFI AM six forty you have

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Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This
is the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show. You

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know. I'm a psychology professor and
one of the courses I teach is plainal

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Introduction to Psychology, and the very
beginning of the semester I teach a section

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on cognitive biases. I basically teach
people that their brain plays tricks on them,

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their perceptions don't always give them the
truth. A cognitive bias, as

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the deaf as is defined, is
a deviation from rational judgment. This is

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where people create their own realities based
on their set of perceptions. And remember,

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how we perceive things is often based
on our experiences in life or from

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before, but with human beings in
general, there are also certain tricks that

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the brain plays because it just needs
to take shortcuts. There's too much information

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coming at us at all the time, so our brain gets overwhelmed, decision

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making gets hard, and so we
rely on these cognitive biases, these shortcuts.

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So I want to go through some
of them. But this summer.

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I want to pertain them specifically to
our love lives and why sometimes our brains

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trick us and people will often say
to me, well, you know,

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I've just got a bad picker,
and I'm like, well, do you

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have a bad picker or did you
have a nat viru cognitive bias? Let's

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talk about him. The first one
I want to talk about is called the

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anchoring bias. Anchoring, and that
means we rely, We over rely on

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the first piece of information we find
out about somebody and we use it as

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a baseline for comparison of everybody else. So, for instance, let's say

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in your dating life, you have
been dating people that are pretty unhappy,

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angry, or maybe somebody who has
an avoidant attachment style and who is afraid

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of intimacy. So it doesn't take
much when you meet a new person for

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them to give you a smile,
a wink, a laugh, make a

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joke, seem very friendly, and
you're going to be like, that's what

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I want. I want that happy
kind of person. And now you've anchored

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it. You're over using this without
investigating and getting more information. If you

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find yourself saying things like, well, compared to what's out there, he

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or she is really a catch.
Right. The problem is this person might

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be just incrementally better, but you
don't have enough information because you've anchored it

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into your first depression. That's called
the anchoring bias. Oh here's another one

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that we do way too much.
It's called the in group bias. It

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basically says that our brain prefers people
who are like us. What could go

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wrong with that? Right, Well, that's how racism happens on dating apps.

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Right. If we immediately gravitate towards
people like us, sometimes it works.

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I remember meeting these two women friends. Actually one of was a women

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friend, and she introduced me to
an old time friend from a long time

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ago, and I said, how
did you two meet? And they said,

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well, we were at UCLA together. And I walked up to her

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and said, you look just like
me. Let's be friends. And you

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know, maybe they had enough other
things in common that it all worked out

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fine. That's the in group bias. But for many of us, we

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need to get out of our group. We need to look further into people

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who are different in some way,
because that may be where we find our

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mate. Oh. Oh, here's
a big cognitive bias that happens all the

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time, especially with online dating.
It's called the bandwagon effect. Sometimes it's

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called herd mentality group think, and
basically the bandwagon effect says this, somebody

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is more likely to go along with
a belief that many other if many others

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hold the same belief, So lots
of If you think lots of other people

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hold this belief, you're gonna believe
it. You know, they've actually done

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studies in labs where they've put a
bunch of people in a room and only

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one was part of the experiment.
The others were confederates, says they call

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them. They were playing along actors, and they asked them to solve a

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basic math problem. And the person
who was being experimented on knew the correct

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answer and said it, but there
were all these other people in the room

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who said, no, that's not
the right answer. No, no,

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the answer is this, And eventually
the person with the rational thought would actually

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go along with the ones who were
saying the wrong answer because of herd mentality

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or group think. Now, how
does this impact your dating life? I

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know what you do. As soon
as you find somebody online that you like

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on a dating app, you go
check out their social media and you try

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to figure out how many followers they
have, and you think, well,

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they have tons of followers, they
must be great, they must be really

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popular. Maybe they just know how
to trick the algorithm. Just want to

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say that, really, just because
somebody's popular online doesn't mean that they're a

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good person otherwise. All right,
here's one that happens all the time.

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Uh huh, the confirmation bias.
That means when you pay more attention to

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information that reinforces something you already believe
and ignoring all the bad news, ignoring

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all evidence to the con right.
So people who are anti vaxxers, for

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instance, would go down a rabbit
hole of I heard there was this one

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guy who lost his erection, I
heard there's one person who got sick,

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right, And so all they do
is look for confirmation that vaccines are bad

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instead of looking at the data that
says, yeah, small percentage of people

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might have had side effects, but
the vast majority of the millions of people

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didn't. They didn't get COVID exactly. So confirmation bias in dating I call

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falling in love with hope, where
you find ways to rationalize and forgive all

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the negative qualities in somebody because you
believe that in their heart they're really a

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good person. Right. So that's
why I always tell people when they first

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start dating somebody to not be looking
for ways that the person's perfect for them.

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That's a confirmation bias. Be looking
for ways that the person's not right

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for them. Right. Then there's
the big one, the sunk cost bias.

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You know what that is. Well, when it comes to investments in

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money, I say, that's when
we throw good money after bad money.

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It's when, okay, let me
say this. So you go through your

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closet, you're cleaning it out right, and there's some shoes and they are

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definitely out of fashion, but they
were designer shoes and you spent so much

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money on them, and you love
them. They're so comfortable, so you

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don't give them to good will.
You just keep them there sitting on your

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shelf because you paid so much money
for them. Right. In the same

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way, we stay in bad relationships
because we've invested time, or because we've

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invested money, or because we've just
invested. Right. Most people who go

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through a divorce or a breakup,
the most common thing I hear is,

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wow, I should have done it
earlier, I didn't know how great it

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was on the other side, right, So the sunk cost bias makes us

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stay in relationships that are bad for
us. Speaking of relationships, if you're

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in one, I want you to
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to talk about the most common relationship
mistakes that people make. And this comes

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from my own experience and a little
bit of science and research, but honestly,

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I want you to have a healthy, happy relationship. So don't make

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these mistakes. I'll talk about them
when we come back. You're listening to

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the Doctor Wendy Walls Show. I'd
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you want to come over to Instagram
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studio, you're welcome to. By
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makeup day. I'm I'm just here. But the reason why I'm on Instagram

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the most common relationship myths, not
miss mistakes, those common relationship mistakes according

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to me, and some from science
that I think people make. And after

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this segment, I'm going to be
taking your calls if you have relationship calls.

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Reminder to everybody, I have a
PhD in clinical psychology. I'm a

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psychology professor, not a therapist,
but I am obsessed with the science of

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love. I've written three books on
relationships. I did my dissertation on attachment

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theory. I think about the science
of love a lot, all right,

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in my opinion, here are the
most common mistakes that people make in relationships.

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First of all, having gender role
expectations that are not discussed. Right.

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So, if you have an idea
that men are supposed to do something

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or women are supposed to do something, and you haven't decided to tell your

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mate that you have this feeling,
then you're going to run in clashes all

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the time, and you're gonna wonder
why now I happen to have a relationship

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that, in some areas has some
traditional gender roles and some not, Like,

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for instance, I have an internal
idea I'm sorry to say this.

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The men should take out the trash. It's just me, okay, And

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I happen to have a boyfriend who
takes out the trash. It's never come

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up whether it's his job or not. He just does it. On the

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other hand, here's the good thing. I love, love, love to

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cook. Love it not because I'm
a girl. There are lots of great

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male chefs out there. I just
love to cook. And here's the wonderful

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thing. He happens to love to
do dishes. Literally, after a meal,

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I take my glass of wine,
I go sit over, look at

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the Telly, read a little New
York Times wait for him to finish the

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dishes. I don't even offer to
help. But anyway, if you don't

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talk about these things, then you're
gonna wonder why you're erupting over little things.

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All right, here's another big mistake
that a lot of people make in

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their relationships. They don't resolve their
childhood issues on their own first, and

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instead blame their partner for quote unquote
triggering them. As if your partner did

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something to you to trigger you.
Now, I want to remind you,

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if we're going to go with the
metaphor of the trigger. You're holding the

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gun and you pull the trigger.
Okay, it's up to you to resolve

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your childhood issues so that you won't
go off. You won't metaphorically press that

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trigger, right, it won't feel
hurtful. It's your job to take care

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of your stuff and not blame your
partner for triggering you, whatever that means.

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Here's another mistake people make in relationships. They fall so deeply in love

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or they get so enmashed or com
a cocoon that never separates, that they

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don't get enough social support. In
other words, they don't have enough of

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a life outside of the relationship.
Now, I'm not saying you should have

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a kind of life that threatens your
relationship, hanging out with people who might

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be potential, you know, romantic
partners for you. But you should bring

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something back to the table, something
interesting. You know. My favorite thing

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is at the end of a work
day, my boyfriend will say to me,

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oh, get this, and then
I know he's about to embark on

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a really great story of something that
happened in the day. Get this,

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he says. When I hear the
get this, up comes the story,

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right, and that brings new energy
into our relationship. I come home from

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KFI Radio and I say, get
this. You know what Kayla said today,

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right, producer, Kayla, you
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Did you know that? That makes
me very happy? So grow yourself as

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an individual, not in a way
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way that brings stuff into the relationship. All right, here's a big,

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one, big mistake people make.
They spend a lot of time on this

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in their relationship, trying to change
somebody else. Guess what, you can't

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change anybody else. You should spend
time learning to accept them, or at

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least tolerate them. Also, you
need to work on changing your reaction to

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them. Okay, here's an example
from my life. Tiny thing. You

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know, they say it's the little
things that break people up, right,

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They get irritated. They say that
the way they roll the toothpaste, how

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they bang their razor on the sink
and leave the hairs, whatever, the

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little stuff, right, that pile
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So in our case, my boyfriend
loves drawers. I don't know why

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he loves drawers. I like shelves. My closet has shelves in it.

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He likes dressers with drawers, okay, but he never closes all the drawers

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fully. In fact, in any
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six of them are open in different
amounts, and in chair two inches there,

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a quarter inch there. Drives me
crazy. Drives me crazy. So

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I could nag him and try to
get him to change his behavior so I

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will be happier, or I could
change my reaction to it. And here's

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what I decided to do. About
a year ago. I adopted this.

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I said, those drawers are a
great opportunity for me to get in shape,

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because if I do a very deep
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knee to get the bottom drawer closed. If I stretch high to the sky

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and turn around and do a pirouette, I can use my back heel to

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do an arabesque and close the top
drawer. And every time I close a

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drawer, I say the words I
love you, Julio, I love you

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Julio, I love you Julio,
and he laughs. He could be in

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the other room and he hears me, and he knows I'm getting a workout

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closing his drawers, and I'm grateful
that he left me a workout that's what

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I am. Right. You see
you change you reframe it your attitude instead

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of trying to change somebody. Oh
here's a big one. I'm not going

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to share a story about this one, but just saying. People get into

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long term relationships and one of the
biggest mistakes they make is they think their

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sexual desire should be effortless. It
should just happen, it should just come.

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No, you have to work at
it, you have to schedule it,

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plan it, make novelty happen,
all kinds of stuff you have to

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do. Right. Oh, and
I want to end with two that are

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really really, really really important,
thinking it's your partner's job to make you

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happy. I just want to tell
you right now it is nobody's job but

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yours to make you happy. In
fact, happy people have happy relationships.

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So it's incumbent on you to figure
out what you need and not be dependent

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on somebody else to make you happy. Oh. I just want to throw

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in, also, your partner's not
a mind reader. If you find yourself

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ever saying they should know really tell
them, communicate better. And I will

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end with this. The biggest mistake
people make in long term relationships is they

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wait too long to go to couple's
therapy. They wait until they're broken up

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and then they go to a therapist
for her or his anointment. That it's

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okay to break up. You should
go when the little squeaks and wheels in

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the machine are happening, it's getting
a little creaky. That's when you go

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for a tune up. You don't
wait till the end. All right,

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when we come back, I am
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KFI. That's one eight hundred five two

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zero one five three four. Here's
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You don't have to use your real
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know this is very intimate things.
I get it, but give us a

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call. I'm happy to answer your
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You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on
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forty do you have Doctor Wendy Walsh
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Walsh Show and this is the time
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and answer your social media questions.
I still have Instagram on board. Somebody

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just asked me on Instagram. By
the way, the number is one eight

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hundred five two zero one KFI.
That's one eight hundred five two zero one

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five three four someone on Instagram just
ask me. If you broke up with

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somebody and then you get back together, what are your chances for success?

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And the chances are great if you
don't enter the same relationship you were in

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before and others. It could be
with the same person but different kind of

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relationship. So going to couple's therapy
is really important so you can learn new

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relationship skills. So figure out what
went wrong? Right? All right?

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Producer Kayla, who do we have
on the line. We have Bree with

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the question, Brie. Hello,
Brie, It's Doctor Wendy by Doctor Wendy.

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What's your question? Like I listened
to you like every week. My

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question My question is about it's a
relationship but not a love relationship. Well,

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I love my sister, yes,
and uh so long story short,

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my mom passed away and I took
it really hard, and afterwards I made

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some very poor choices and it resulted
in my sister having to adopt my daughter.

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Long story short, And this was
almost two years ago. Oh it's

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just two years. This is so
new. Yeah. And how old is

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your daughter that your sister adopted?
Four? Honey? Honey? And I

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she excuse me, sorry, take
your time. And I've turned my life

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around since then, mm hmm.
And she she can't move forward from the

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past and forgive me and has taken
all communications. Oh my daughter, Oh

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no, no, no, oh, dad, I just don't know how

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to how to move forward. I
know, okay with her and everything.

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So that I have it clear,
your mom passed away, and two years

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ago, your sister adopted your two
year old at the time, right,

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because of some bad life choices,
some you know, response to your mom's

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death. May I ask, Bree, how old you are? I'm thirty

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three, thirty three and you have
a four year old out there who you're

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not allowed to see or talk to. Now I can, legally, but

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my sister just doesn't think it's a
good idea. Oh wait, you can't

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legally. Yeah, it's they've just
made it up to her my sister.

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Okay, so it sounds like you
need a lawyer, Bree, I think

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you need two things. Okay.
You need a therapist to help you through

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this emotional time guaranteed, and even
if you don't have money, there are

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ways to get affordable therapists. I
always tell people this. The Affordable Care

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Act means that your health insurance has
to pay for some. Also, every

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college and university that has graduate school
has all kinds of PhDs there who will

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give you therapy for sometimes free or
very little. So you need to have

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a therapist, that's first thing.
And then when you get emotionally a little

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more sound and you're feeling stronger,
I would highly suggest that you work with

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an a turn to make sure that
you have your legal rights as bio mom

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because your daughter, in my opinion, this is just my opinion. Now,

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I'm just a mom and a human
being, but your daughter should know

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both her mothers, her mother and
her aunt. And the more adults who

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care about a child, the better
outcomes for kids. This we know.

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And she wouldn't let me see her
today smaller, And I just don't know

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how to get how to talk to
my sisters. And have you been honest

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and vulnerable with your sister? Have
you let her know how painful this is?

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And what is her reaction? What
does she say? She either doesn't

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respond or she does respond. It's
just like you guys just texting. You're

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not talking. Oh she won't answer
the phone. Oh no, you to

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have a line of communication up.
You need to say and you need to

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talk to Does she live in your
city? No, but she's close.

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She's close. She's close enough that
you could set up a meeting. I

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think you need to set up a
meeting neral and a neutral place, and

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you need to let her know how
important this is and that you may take

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the next step, which is trying
to fight for your legal rights. But

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in the meantime, you know,
you know, try to tell her.

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I mean, if it's true that
you've changed and that you're not going to

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be a bad influence on your daughter, you're not going to hurt your daughter.

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And you're not even asking maybe even
to be alone with your daughter or

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take your daughter out somewhere. You're
just asking to check in with her and

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be able to see her and let
her know that she's loved and cared for

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and the other thing. I would
say, Brie, this is just me

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as a mom. If this were
I always put myself in somebody's shoes,

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And if this was me, I
would be writing a letter a day to

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my daughter and put it in a
shoebox. And someday, when she's a

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teenager and she's mad at her aunt, mom, you can get that shoe

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box to her and she can see
how hard you tried and what you did

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and the love you wanted to give
her. I think it's really important that

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you document your emotional feelings and give
it to your daughter. Brie. I'm

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sorry it's radio, and I wish
we had hours and hours. I want

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to give you a big hug.
But thank you for calling in. I

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appreciate it. Oh that's heartbreaking.
Okay, Producer, Kayla, who do

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we have an ex? We have
Ruth with a question. Okay, Hi,

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Ruth, it's doctor Wendy. I'm
so glad you're there, Doctor Wendy.

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Oh, I felt so bad for
that girl. Did you hear her?

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I did, and I called and
I'm like, that's so similar.

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But I'm the grandmother. I'm the
grandmother, and my daughter got arrested.

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Wait, the grandmother of the woman
who just called in or somebody else that

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would be that would be really weird. But no, Okay, similar situation.

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So you're a grandmother and sadly your
daughter got involved with the criminal justice

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system, right, so she's considered
a felon and they won't give her her

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children. They ended up divorcing her
husband, and and I thought, She's

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like, I would rather my children
be put up for adoption than go to

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my husband. And I'm like,
oh, hell no. So finally she's

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been very good since all of that
has happened, but she's iced me out,

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and so has he. And now
I have no contact. And how

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old are your grandkids? Ruth?
They they were newborn. Okay, now

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there's now there's ten. The young
it's ten. It's just ten years later.

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Okay, So now the oldest is
fifteen, thirteen and ten and so,

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and when is the last time you
were able to see them? I

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went to church today and one of
them was there, so I gave her

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a this is their thirteen year old
and I'd like tell your sister and your

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brother. I said hello, and
that I love them. But mom and

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dad don't want they're just okay,
So that's one child, my other my

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that's my number one child, my
number two childs He married a young lady

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with four children. I mean,
it's like, that was my prayer to

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God, God, please let me
find a man who will love me and

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my four children. But God answered
my prayer to my son, and then

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they had a child together and it
was going great until I introduced. I

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told my new daughter in law,
I said, look, if you come

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to this family, you got to
know that my daughter is a felon,

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and so you know, she understood
everything. But then when my daughter talked

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to her, Yeah, my new
daughter in law got turned against me.

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And so now they're like, oh, your helicopter grandmother and is too much.

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We don't want you in our life. Oh so now okay, So

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Ruth, okay, Ruth. I
know that this is a sad day for

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you because it's Mother's Day and you
got eight grandchildren that you were unable to

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reach out to. I definitely think
that you need to work through some of

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this stuff in therapy, and also
as my advice for Bree, write a

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letter to your grandchildren every day because
someday they're going to show up and they're

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going to say, where were you, and you can hand them the shoe

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box and say, here's my box
of tears. Here's what happened, Here's

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why I was unable to reach you, Here's why I will always be there

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for you if you reach out to
me, and I think documenting your feeling

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letting them know is the best thing
you can do. Oh, thank you

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for calling Ruth. All right,
when we come back, I'm going to

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head over to social media because I
see some of my dms are all about

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dating and hooking up and oh my, somebody has quite a moral question for

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me. You are listening to the
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