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Well, if you're new to my show, let me tell you this.
I have a PhD in clinical psychology, but I'm not a therapist.
I'm a psychology professor, and I am obsessed with the science of love and
all are very important interpersonal relationships. On today's show, cognitive biases doesn't sound
sexy, does it? Until I say the rest that mess up our love
lives. Yeah, there are tricks that our brains naturally play on us that
make us make those bad decisions in love. Also some of the most common
relationship mistakes that people make. I put together this list and I am convinced
that if you just change these few things, you can have a happy relationship.
Plus, I'll be taking your calls and answering your relationship questions from social
media. Also, later in the show, I have a very special guest,
an eye surgeon who can change the color of your eyes. You won't
believe this but before we get there, I have been in Los Angeles media
for I'm embarrassed to say thirty years. You may know me because I used
to anchor at KCOP that then became UPN in the early nineties. Left there,
I was over at Extra. I hosted at least fifty different cable half
hours as cable was bursting and going on. In twenty twelve was doctor Phil
picked me to be on The Doctors. I've been around media for a long
time, covering entertainment, covering once I you know, I got a midlife
PhD, come back to media with a little bit of knowledge, and one
of the people I knew as a colleague for a good thirty years was KTLA's
entertainment reporter Sam Rubin. And you know, if you've been listening to any
media in the last forty eight hours, you know that our heart goes out
to Sam's family because he passed away on Friday morning. It was so distressful
for me because he wasn't much older than me, because he was a solid
fixture that was just always there. I spent a lot of time with Sam
recently because in the last few years, I've also been a love correspondent for
the Today Show in Australia. In Australia nine Network, as they call it,
Sam is their entertainment reporter. I'm their psychological experts. So they would
have me weigh in and a few times a month we would meet in a
green room in Hollywood and he would do a segment before me, and then
I would do a segment, and then he had to wait another hour for
his next segment. So we always had time to sit in the green room
in the afternoon and just talk about life. He talked about raising his kids.
Sometimes he had some of his young adult teen kids with him. I
had mine there sometimes, and he knew a little bit about everything, and
he was probably the most positive, jovial, happy person that I knew.
But the thing I'm mad about for me is how much I just took people
like Sam Rubin for granted. They were just always there. They were a
consistent fixture in my life, have been. They were just somebody in the
business you saw regularly. They were a good friend, and Sam was special.
And the reason why he was on air for more than thirty years in
Los Angeles is because he never lost his Midwest attitude. He was always kind
to every celebrity, didn't have a bad word. He wasn't a deep gossiper.
But here's something you didn't know about Sam. His work ethic was beyond
I was in awe. First of all, he lived in the Pacific Palisades.
I just I'm only telling you this. You can picture the freeways.
And he would get drive early in the morning to do the KTLA Morning Shoe
Show by six am, and so he drives all across it, does his
segments there, then drives back to the Palisades, churns out a few blogs,
makes some other videos for other clients, comes back for the afternoon show,
and then afterwards would go to red carpets like two three times a week
at events. And I said to him one day, Sam, are you
ever going to wind down? And he said, no, I got two
kids still heading to college. I'm never going to stop. And I love
it. I love it, he said. Here's a clip of Sam retrospectively
looking at what he thought his career was going to be, like, I
was just how I'm meant to live. Could I do backup for you guys?
I think he got no work to do. Brun I love Sam Rubens
so much. Sam's the great. Sam is the most talented entertainment reporter and
anchor I've ever met. I've kind of always wanted to do this. So
when I first got in the morning News, oh, I was like,
I can't believe I'm sitting here, and I hope I can sit here for
a long time. Kermit. What I thought was very magnanimous of you,
But I certainly liked using the word magnanimous. Yes, look at you.
You thank you. Somebody with your little glasses, I see it. I'll
say this isn't without vanity, but it probably is. I thought, oh
my gosh, you know everybody's going to watch. Everybody's gonna see me.
And maybe two weeks in I realized nobody's watching. My mother would watch for
one hour a day, and her great review was, you know, one
hour day, it's all I can take. You know, I figured this
was not going well. Sam's self deprecating humor. We were all watching you,
Sam, we were all learning from you, and our heart goes out
to your family this week. So what does this mean to us? When
we lose a pear? A little piece of all of us die because all
of our relationships, whether they're friendships, whether they're work colleagues, they are
a piece of our identity. And when we lose somebody, and especially if
it's somebody close to you, you actually a piece of yourself dies that you
have to find a way to rebuild that within yourself. It happens to also
be Mother's Day, and there are many people out there who have lost their
mother. I lost my mother when I was thirty. Kayla lost her mother
when she was young. It's a time of sadness. I just want to
say, because I'm going to say it live on air. And I'm feeling
very melancholy today. Melanchocky Is that a word? No, that's called melanchochy.
Gotcha, gotcha. I'm feeling very melancholy because my nest is almost empty.
I got one about to fly. She's got little baby wings and about
to take off. She was sending me pictures of apartments. Today I got
another living all the way across the pond in Paris. And in the last
how long have you been with me? Kayla? Two years? Three years?
Oh, three years? My producer, Kayla Austin has been my adoptive
daughter, of course, and she's too old to actually be my daughter.
Her when I was really young. Actually, no, no, I'm not
no, no, I wanted to say that, ye think. Yeah,
okay, literally could have been my daughter and I would have been even an
older mom having her, and so so Kayla has assumed the position, if
you will, so on air, I just want to say, Kayla,
thank you for being my surrogate replacement daughter during this. No one's going anywhere,
right, this is not an ending or goodbye. I just want to
say that it is Mother's Day and Kayla brought me some lovely Mother's Day gifts
and I'm just so grateful to you. I love you deep. Happy Mother's
Day. I'm gonna light that candle. I'm a little massage. She was
really generous, so sweet, so so sweet. All right, let's get
off all the sad and melancholy folks. So I hope you had a great
time with your mom today and you at least picked up a phone and called
her. All right, let's talk about the cognitive biases that can really mess
up our love lives, tricks our brains play on us. When we come
back. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six
forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy
Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty. KFI AM six forty you have
Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show. You
know. I'm a psychology professor and one of the courses I teach is plainal
Introduction to Psychology, and the very beginning of the semester I teach a section
on cognitive biases. I basically teach people that their brain plays tricks on them,
their perceptions don't always give them the truth. A cognitive bias, as
the deaf as is defined, is a deviation from rational judgment. This is
where people create their own realities based on their set of perceptions. And remember,
how we perceive things is often based on our experiences in life or from
before, but with human beings in general, there are also certain tricks that
the brain plays because it just needs to take shortcuts. There's too much information
coming at us at all the time, so our brain gets overwhelmed, decision
making gets hard, and so we rely on these cognitive biases, these shortcuts.
So I want to go through some of them. But this summer.
I want to pertain them specifically to our love lives and why sometimes our brains
trick us and people will often say to me, well, you know,
I've just got a bad picker, and I'm like, well, do you
have a bad picker or did you have a nat viru cognitive bias? Let's
talk about him. The first one I want to talk about is called the
anchoring bias. Anchoring, and that means we rely, We over rely on
the first piece of information we find out about somebody and we use it as
a baseline for comparison of everybody else. So, for instance, let's say
in your dating life, you have been dating people that are pretty unhappy,
angry, or maybe somebody who has an avoidant attachment style and who is afraid
of intimacy. So it doesn't take much when you meet a new person for
them to give you a smile, a wink, a laugh, make a
joke, seem very friendly, and you're going to be like, that's what
I want. I want that happy kind of person. And now you've anchored
it. You're over using this without investigating and getting more information. If you
find yourself saying things like, well, compared to what's out there, he
or she is really a catch. Right. The problem is this person might
be just incrementally better, but you don't have enough information because you've anchored it
into your first depression. That's called the anchoring bias. Oh here's another one
that we do way too much. It's called the in group bias. It
basically says that our brain prefers people who are like us. What could go
wrong with that? Right, Well, that's how racism happens on dating apps.
Right. If we immediately gravitate towards people like us, sometimes it works.
I remember meeting these two women friends. Actually one of was a women
friend, and she introduced me to an old time friend from a long time
ago, and I said, how did you two meet? And they said,
well, we were at UCLA together. And I walked up to her
and said, you look just like me. Let's be friends. And you
know, maybe they had enough other things in common that it all worked out
fine. That's the in group bias. But for many of us, we
need to get out of our group. We need to look further into people
who are different in some way, because that may be where we find our
mate. Oh. Oh, here's a big cognitive bias that happens all the
time, especially with online dating. It's called the bandwagon effect. Sometimes it's
called herd mentality group think, and basically the bandwagon effect says this, somebody
is more likely to go along with a belief that many other if many others
hold the same belief, So lots of If you think lots of other people
hold this belief, you're gonna believe it. You know, they've actually done
studies in labs where they've put a bunch of people in a room and only
one was part of the experiment. The others were confederates, says they call
them. They were playing along actors, and they asked them to solve a
basic math problem. And the person who was being experimented on knew the correct
answer and said it, but there were all these other people in the room
who said, no, that's not the right answer. No, no,
the answer is this, And eventually the person with the rational thought would actually
go along with the ones who were saying the wrong answer because of herd mentality
or group think. Now, how does this impact your dating life? I
know what you do. As soon as you find somebody online that you like
on a dating app, you go check out their social media and you try
to figure out how many followers they have, and you think, well,
they have tons of followers, they must be great, they must be really
popular. Maybe they just know how to trick the algorithm. Just want to
say that, really, just because somebody's popular online doesn't mean that they're a
good person otherwise. All right, here's one that happens all the time.
Uh huh, the confirmation bias. That means when you pay more attention to
information that reinforces something you already believe and ignoring all the bad news, ignoring
all evidence to the con right. So people who are anti vaxxers, for
instance, would go down a rabbit hole of I heard there was this one
guy who lost his erection, I heard there's one person who got sick,
right, And so all they do is look for confirmation that vaccines are bad
instead of looking at the data that says, yeah, small percentage of people
might have had side effects, but the vast majority of the millions of people
didn't. They didn't get COVID exactly. So confirmation bias in dating I call
falling in love with hope, where you find ways to rationalize and forgive all
the negative qualities in somebody because you believe that in their heart they're really a
good person. Right. So that's why I always tell people when they first
start dating somebody to not be looking for ways that the person's perfect for them.
That's a confirmation bias. Be looking for ways that the person's not right
for them. Right. Then there's the big one, the sunk cost bias.
You know what that is. Well, when it comes to investments in
money, I say, that's when we throw good money after bad money.
It's when, okay, let me say this. So you go through your
closet, you're cleaning it out right, and there's some shoes and they are
definitely out of fashion, but they were designer shoes and you spent so much
money on them, and you love them. They're so comfortable, so you
don't give them to good will. You just keep them there sitting on your
shelf because you paid so much money for them. Right. In the same
way, we stay in bad relationships because we've invested time, or because we've
invested money, or because we've just invested. Right. Most people who go
through a divorce or a breakup, the most common thing I hear is,
wow, I should have done it earlier, I didn't know how great it
was on the other side, right, So the sunk cost bias makes us
stay in relationships that are bad for us. Speaking of relationships, if you're
in one, I want you to listen up because coming back, I want
to talk about the most common relationship mistakes that people make. And this comes
from my own experience and a little bit of science and research, but honestly,
I want you to have a healthy, happy relationship. So don't make
these mistakes. I'll talk about them when we come back. You're listening to
the Doctor Wendy Walls Show and KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on
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six forty KFI and six you have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is
the Doctor Wendy Walls Show. I'd like to welcome my Instagram audience. If
you want to come over to Instagram and see what we're doing here in the
studio, you're welcome to. By the way, I'm in a casual no
makeup day. I'm I'm just here. But the reason why I'm on Instagram
as well as on KFI. Right now is because I want to talk about
the most common relationship myths, not miss mistakes, those common relationship mistakes according
to me, and some from science that I think people make. And after
this segment, I'm going to be taking your calls if you have relationship calls.
Reminder to everybody, I have a PhD in clinical psychology. I'm a
psychology professor, not a therapist, but I am obsessed with the science of
love. I've written three books on relationships. I did my dissertation on attachment
theory. I think about the science of love a lot, all right,
in my opinion, here are the most common mistakes that people make in relationships.
First of all, having gender role expectations that are not discussed. Right.
So, if you have an idea that men are supposed to do something
or women are supposed to do something, and you haven't decided to tell your
mate that you have this feeling, then you're going to run in clashes all
the time, and you're gonna wonder why now I happen to have a relationship
that, in some areas has some traditional gender roles and some not, Like,
for instance, I have an internal idea I'm sorry to say this.
The men should take out the trash. It's just me, okay, And
I happen to have a boyfriend who takes out the trash. It's never come
up whether it's his job or not. He just does it. On the
other hand, here's the good thing. I love, love, love to
cook. Love it not because I'm a girl. There are lots of great
male chefs out there. I just love to cook. And here's the wonderful
thing. He happens to love to do dishes. Literally, after a meal,
I take my glass of wine, I go sit over, look at
the Telly, read a little New York Times wait for him to finish the
dishes. I don't even offer to help. But anyway, if you don't
talk about these things, then you're gonna wonder why you're erupting over little things.
All right, here's another big mistake that a lot of people make in
their relationships. They don't resolve their childhood issues on their own first, and
instead blame their partner for quote unquote triggering them. As if your partner did
something to you to trigger you. Now, I want to remind you,
if we're going to go with the metaphor of the trigger. You're holding the
gun and you pull the trigger. Okay, it's up to you to resolve
your childhood issues so that you won't go off. You won't metaphorically press that
trigger, right, it won't feel hurtful. It's your job to take care
of your stuff and not blame your partner for triggering you, whatever that means.
Here's another mistake people make in relationships. They fall so deeply in love
or they get so enmashed or com a cocoon that never separates, that they
don't get enough social support. In other words, they don't have enough of
a life outside of the relationship. Now, I'm not saying you should have
a kind of life that threatens your relationship, hanging out with people who might
be potential, you know, romantic partners for you. But you should bring
something back to the table, something interesting. You know. My favorite thing
is at the end of a work day, my boyfriend will say to me,
oh, get this, and then I know he's about to embark on
a really great story of something that happened in the day. Get this,
he says. When I hear the get this, up comes the story,
right, and that brings new energy into our relationship. I come home from
KFI Radio and I say, get this. You know what Kayla said today,
right, producer, Kayla, you actually come home with us sometimes.
Did you know that? That makes me very happy? So grow yourself as
an individual, not in a way that threatens the relationship, but in a
way that brings stuff into the relationship. All right, here's a big,
one, big mistake people make. They spend a lot of time on this
in their relationship, trying to change somebody else. Guess what, you can't
change anybody else. You should spend time learning to accept them, or at
least tolerate them. Also, you need to work on changing your reaction to
them. Okay, here's an example from my life. Tiny thing. You
know, they say it's the little things that break people up, right,
They get irritated. They say that the way they roll the toothpaste, how
they bang their razor on the sink and leave the hairs, whatever, the
little stuff, right, that pile up and then you have a big war.
So in our case, my boyfriend loves drawers. I don't know why
he loves drawers. I like shelves. My closet has shelves in it.
He likes dressers with drawers, okay, but he never closes all the drawers
fully. In fact, in any given dresser that may have six drawers,
six of them are open in different amounts, and in chair two inches there,
a quarter inch there. Drives me crazy. Drives me crazy. So
I could nag him and try to get him to change his behavior so I
will be happier, or I could change my reaction to it. And here's
what I decided to do. About a year ago. I adopted this.
I said, those drawers are a great opportunity for me to get in shape,
because if I do a very deep sumou squat, I can use my
knee to get the bottom drawer closed. If I stretch high to the sky
and turn around and do a pirouette, I can use my back heel to
do an arabesque and close the top drawer. And every time I close a
drawer, I say the words I love you, Julio, I love you
Julio, I love you Julio, and he laughs. He could be in
the other room and he hears me, and he knows I'm getting a workout
closing his drawers, and I'm grateful that he left me a workout that's what
I am. Right. You see you change you reframe it your attitude instead
of trying to change somebody. Oh here's a big one. I'm not going
to share a story about this one, but just saying. People get into
long term relationships and one of the biggest mistakes they make is they think their
sexual desire should be effortless. It should just happen, it should just come.
No, you have to work at it, you have to schedule it,
plan it, make novelty happen, all kinds of stuff you have to
do. Right. Oh, and I want to end with two that are
really really, really really important, thinking it's your partner's job to make you
happy. I just want to tell you right now it is nobody's job but
yours to make you happy. In fact, happy people have happy relationships.
So it's incumbent on you to figure out what you need and not be dependent
on somebody else to make you happy. Oh. I just want to throw
in, also, your partner's not a mind reader. If you find yourself
ever saying they should know really tell them, communicate better. And I will
end with this. The biggest mistake people make in long term relationships is they
wait too long to go to couple's therapy. They wait until they're broken up
and then they go to a therapist for her or his anointment. That it's
okay to break up. You should go when the little squeaks and wheels in
the machine are happening, it's getting a little creaky. That's when you go
for a tune up. You don't wait till the end. All right,
when we come back, I am taking your relationship questions. The number is
one eight hundred five two zero one KFI. That's one eight hundred five two
zero one five three four. Here's what's going to happen. Producer Kayla's going
to go to the phones. You get to say hello to her first.
You don't have to use your real name. You can be anonymous. I
know this is very intimate things. I get it, but give us a
call. I'm happy to answer your questions. The number is one eight hundred
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and answer your social media questions. I still have Instagram on board. Somebody
just asked me on Instagram. By the way, the number is one eight
hundred five two zero one KFI. That's one eight hundred five two zero one
five three four someone on Instagram just ask me. If you broke up with
somebody and then you get back together, what are your chances for success?
And the chances are great if you don't enter the same relationship you were in
before and others. It could be with the same person but different kind of
relationship. So going to couple's therapy is really important so you can learn new
relationship skills. So figure out what went wrong? Right? All right?
Producer Kayla, who do we have on the line. We have Bree with
the question, Brie. Hello, Brie, It's Doctor Wendy by Doctor Wendy.
What's your question? Like I listened to you like every week. My
question My question is about it's a relationship but not a love relationship. Well,
I love my sister, yes, and uh so long story short,
my mom passed away and I took it really hard, and afterwards I made
some very poor choices and it resulted in my sister having to adopt my daughter.
Long story short, And this was almost two years ago. Oh it's
just two years. This is so new. Yeah. And how old is
your daughter that your sister adopted? Four? Honey? Honey? And I
she excuse me, sorry, take your time. And I've turned my life
around since then, mm hmm. And she she can't move forward from the
past and forgive me and has taken all communications. Oh my daughter, Oh
no, no, no, oh, dad, I just don't know how
to how to move forward. I know, okay with her and everything.
So that I have it clear, your mom passed away, and two years
ago, your sister adopted your two year old at the time, right,
because of some bad life choices, some you know, response to your mom's
death. May I ask, Bree, how old you are? I'm thirty
three, thirty three and you have a four year old out there who you're
not allowed to see or talk to. Now I can, legally, but
my sister just doesn't think it's a good idea. Oh wait, you can't
legally. Yeah, it's they've just made it up to her my sister.
Okay, so it sounds like you need a lawyer, Bree, I think
you need two things. Okay. You need a therapist to help you through
this emotional time guaranteed, and even if you don't have money, there are
ways to get affordable therapists. I always tell people this. The Affordable Care
Act means that your health insurance has to pay for some. Also, every
college and university that has graduate school has all kinds of PhDs there who will
give you therapy for sometimes free or very little. So you need to have
a therapist, that's first thing. And then when you get emotionally a little
more sound and you're feeling stronger, I would highly suggest that you work with
an a turn to make sure that you have your legal rights as bio mom
because your daughter, in my opinion, this is just my opinion. Now,
I'm just a mom and a human being, but your daughter should know
both her mothers, her mother and her aunt. And the more adults who
care about a child, the better outcomes for kids. This we know.
And she wouldn't let me see her today smaller, And I just don't know
how to get how to talk to my sisters. And have you been honest
and vulnerable with your sister? Have you let her know how painful this is?
And what is her reaction? What does she say? She either doesn't
respond or she does respond. It's just like you guys just texting. You're
not talking. Oh she won't answer the phone. Oh no, you to
have a line of communication up. You need to say and you need to
talk to Does she live in your city? No, but she's close.
She's close. She's close enough that you could set up a meeting. I
think you need to set up a meeting neral and a neutral place, and
you need to let her know how important this is and that you may take
the next step, which is trying to fight for your legal rights. But
in the meantime, you know, you know, try to tell her.
I mean, if it's true that you've changed and that you're not going to
be a bad influence on your daughter, you're not going to hurt your daughter.
And you're not even asking maybe even to be alone with your daughter or
take your daughter out somewhere. You're just asking to check in with her and
be able to see her and let her know that she's loved and cared for
and the other thing. I would say, Brie, this is just me
as a mom. If this were I always put myself in somebody's shoes,
And if this was me, I would be writing a letter a day to
my daughter and put it in a shoebox. And someday, when she's a
teenager and she's mad at her aunt, mom, you can get that shoe
box to her and she can see how hard you tried and what you did
and the love you wanted to give her. I think it's really important that
you document your emotional feelings and give it to your daughter. Brie. I'm
sorry it's radio, and I wish we had hours and hours. I want
to give you a big hug. But thank you for calling in. I
appreciate it. Oh that's heartbreaking. Okay, Producer, Kayla, who do
we have an ex? We have Ruth with a question. Okay, Hi,
Ruth, it's doctor Wendy. I'm so glad you're there, Doctor Wendy.
Oh, I felt so bad for that girl. Did you hear her?
I did, and I called and I'm like, that's so similar.
But I'm the grandmother. I'm the grandmother, and my daughter got arrested.
Wait, the grandmother of the woman who just called in or somebody else that
would be that would be really weird. But no, Okay, similar situation.
So you're a grandmother and sadly your daughter got involved with the criminal justice
system, right, so she's considered a felon and they won't give her her
children. They ended up divorcing her husband, and and I thought, She's
like, I would rather my children be put up for adoption than go to
my husband. And I'm like, oh, hell no. So finally she's
been very good since all of that has happened, but she's iced me out,
and so has he. And now I have no contact. And how
old are your grandkids? Ruth? They they were newborn. Okay, now
there's now there's ten. The young it's ten. It's just ten years later.
Okay, So now the oldest is fifteen, thirteen and ten and so,
and when is the last time you were able to see them? I
went to church today and one of them was there, so I gave her
a this is their thirteen year old and I'd like tell your sister and your
brother. I said hello, and that I love them. But mom and
dad don't want they're just okay, So that's one child, my other my
that's my number one child, my number two childs He married a young lady
with four children. I mean, it's like, that was my prayer to
God, God, please let me find a man who will love me and
my four children. But God answered my prayer to my son, and then
they had a child together and it was going great until I introduced. I
told my new daughter in law, I said, look, if you come
to this family, you got to know that my daughter is a felon,
and so you know, she understood everything. But then when my daughter talked
to her, Yeah, my new daughter in law got turned against me.
And so now they're like, oh, your helicopter grandmother and is too much.
We don't want you in our life. Oh so now okay, So
Ruth, okay, Ruth. I know that this is a sad day for
you because it's Mother's Day and you got eight grandchildren that you were unable to
reach out to. I definitely think that you need to work through some of
this stuff in therapy, and also as my advice for Bree, write a
letter to your grandchildren every day because someday they're going to show up and they're
going to say, where were you, and you can hand them the shoe
box and say, here's my box of tears. Here's what happened, Here's
why I was unable to reach you, Here's why I will always be there
for you if you reach out to me, and I think documenting your feeling
letting them know is the best thing you can do. Oh, thank you
for calling Ruth. All right, when we come back, I'm going to
head over to social media because I see some of my dms are all about
dating and hooking up and oh my, somebody has quite a moral question for
me. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six
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