WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:15.240 He'll be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for 2 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:19.359 July twenty second, twenty twenty four. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.640 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 4 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:27.399 with me Jeff Grabb. Today, a new game update references the next PlayStation, 5 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:30.559 and a dad who has been dead in a volcano for the last five 6 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.840 years is back in Tech and eight. But first, please join me and 7 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:38.119 welcoming today's co host the Game Mess Mornings. It's Mike Minati. Everybody, 8 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:43.240 Mike, how are you doing? What's wrong with us? Okay, look, 9 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.600 I think we should get into what's wrong with us? We definitely should. 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:52.960 But what's wrong with Nintendo? That's a good question. Uh Okay. 11 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:58.039 So I was like doing stuff around the house and then Mike was still streaming 12 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.799 and he had started streaming Nintendo World Championships last night, and I think I 13 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:04.680 got on and started streaming at around one am it is when I started, 14 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:10.760 and then ended up doing about a four hour stream, so we were up 15 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:14.079 to like we streamed till like five in the morning, which is win the 16 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.480 event, the first weekly event in Nintendo World Championships ended. We were trying 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.120 to, you know, get our best times in the in that moment, 18 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.519 Yeah, I ha to maximize our time exactly, So it was all it 19 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:29.040 was a good use of our time. Personally, I think we we're smart, 20 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.840 responsible people. There is no leaderboard for all the events, like cumulative, 21 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:38.920 Like, what the hell is wrong? What's what's again? It's like, 22 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.519 I guess they never said there would be. I guess I know, 23 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:49.319 right, Why wouldn't it work that way? It's such a good idea, 24 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.719 like like if this is such a good like format for this sort of thing, 25 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:59.200 if they would just do a couple of small things like obviously we've been 26 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.879 talking about leader bore it's a lot for like every little event ghost stay, 27 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.000 it would be great. But I'm at the very least I'm like, oh 28 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.400 man, okay, no, well have this weekly event and you try to 29 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.000 sit the best time on these five events, and then there will be of 30 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.560 course, there'll be leaderboards for all all those five events. Actually I wasn't 31 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.960 even sure if that would be the case, but that is what you do 32 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:20.039 get for the global and the year you were born. And then I was 33 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.400 like, okay, and then we'll get, you know, just for all 34 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.599 five events the time put together, and that'll be like your real ranking, 35 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:34.120 like in the actual Nintendo World Champions, right. That is just completely there's 36 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.599 nothing even referencing something like that. So I was just like, oh my 37 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.159 god, all right, whatever, I still had a really good time, 38 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:46.039 but the game could be better with just so many tiny changes. It's weird 39 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:46.680 because it's like, I guess the next one's like, well, I guess 40 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.800 I don't really have to worry about my time on each of them. It's 41 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.919 like I could really just focus on one, which I don't know. That 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.919 feels good. But what was your highest rank? By the way, I 43 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:05.080 think I got six teenth on mush Zoom. Wow. Really okay, damn, 44 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:08.439 that's so pretty amazing. Yeah, that was That one's hard to because 45 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:12.159 you know, you could do that quick start thing, but the quick start 46 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.280 thing is hard to pull off. You have to do that and then immediately 47 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.319 do one of the hardest like little platforming things to actually get that three point 48 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.639 five six in the first place, So I could see why. I'm like 49 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.919 only fifteen people in the world were able to pull that off and get a 50 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.120 faster time than I had three point six six, so like tenth of a 51 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.719 second more than you, and I was not in the top one hundred for 52 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.439 that one. He's okay, Yeah, I bet there's quite a few people 53 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.120 tied for three point five six. That must be kind of what's happening there. 54 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.199 And then for my birth year, which again that's there's the two leader 55 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.080 boards global and then the year you were born, first year ones, I 56 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:52.000 do better in those. Yeah, I got two first places on that, 57 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:58.240 so really yes, which ones? Mush zoom? And then I think evasion 58 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.960 is key I got a first. Yeah, I was trying to do better 59 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:03.719 if Evasion's keys the only one I wasn't in the top one thousand. I 60 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.520 was trying to improve on that one. I literally right out of time. 61 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:12.680 I got kicked out. So Zelda Fortunately the Zelda one, I was just 62 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.039 out of the top one thousand. I think it was eleven hundred or something 63 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:16.240 like that. So yeah, yeah, that one I worked to get a 64 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.680 little bit better, was I wasn't. I wasn't in the top one hundred, 65 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.639 and that one still my best one was ninety four in the Metroid one. 66 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.399 But like in the leaderboard, I can't because I'm ninety four and it 67 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.279 shows me like the four above and below me, so I can literally see 68 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:36.199 you on on at number ninety one. So even my best one is ruined 69 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:41.360 because I see your stupid name with your stupid pickle icon. Yeah, let's 70 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:45.519 go pickle. You can't even like scroll the global leaderboard either, right, 71 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.199 so you can't like go and look and see who else is on there. 72 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.079 Like we couldn't go searching for Dan's name if we wanted to. No, 73 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.160 Like what the one thing you can do is you can watch the replay data 74 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.240 of everybody who got first place in the five events. So that's I think 75 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.240 it's kind of funny to see, like, oh that's what they were doing. 76 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.600 Oh right, So there's that. You know, I still had a 77 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.360 lot of fun doing it, and it is still you know, I feel 78 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.920 good, like oh wow, you know, because you know this met trade 79 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.279 one right make ninety four. It tells me forty three thousand, two hundred 80 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.160 and thirty people did it. I'm in the top zero point three percent. 81 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.800 Well good, all right, good, yep, that's yeah, I gamed. 82 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.959 Yep, we definitely, we definitely gamed. There's no one that can 83 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.879 deny that. Yeah. It's a little frustrating though. It's like they have 84 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.839 the ability to share ghost data like, of course they do. I think 85 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.360 I think here's the thing about this game, and we'll move on this second. 86 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:38.000 Everybody happen Monday. We're going to get into the gaming news here pretty 87 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.360 soon. Don't worry. Not like there's a ton happening again. It's a 88 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:44.279 slow time of year. Uh. They I think they have the ability to 89 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.879 do all the things we're asking for in this game. I think they have 90 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:50.600 these features in the game and decided for whatever reason to turn them off or 91 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:55.879 not include them or hide them so like leader like per event leader boards. 92 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.600 I'm sure we're in there at one time and they just were like, Okay, 93 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.199 that doesn't serve our with this game whatever, to make it a party 94 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.480 game, to make it feel like some other kind of event. And then 95 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:08.720 the ghost data, same thing. I think they have the ability to share 96 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.120 that. Clearly they do, and they're just like, no, we don't 97 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:14.480 want people like obsessing over that. And I'm like, let me obsess. 98 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.000 That's it. I'm gonna do it anyhow, Just let me do it in 99 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:23.519 the game. 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Hello YouTube. 107 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.639 All right, we have a lot to get into, so let's start the 108 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:59.120 Morning Mess with no Man SKYPS five Pro upgrade data mind and visual improvements revealed. 109 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.560 There's a PS five Pro upgrade within the data here. We'll get into 110 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:08.439 that. This is from solal a one at Twisted Vauxel who writes Hello Games 111 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:12.879 nomanns. Sky has received a significant update recently, and a data mine of 112 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.480 the update files has revealed specifications for a potential PS five Pro upgrade. The 113 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:21.040 leaked specifications were found in the upgrade files released by Hello Games. This patch 114 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:27.279 includes a customized graphics preset for new hardware cod named Trinity in the update files. 115 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.600 The codename aligns with the rumored internal name for the PS five Pro. 116 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.480 The first images for the Trinity graphics preset, while the second one is for 117 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:38.240 the PS five and there's images in the story that reference this. Based on 118 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.759 the graphics preset, the visual improvements for Nomad Sky do not seem to be 119 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.920 substantial. The dynamic resolution scaling setting has been increased from point six to point 120 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:53.199 eight, indicating a higher average resolution. And that's like one would be full 121 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.360 four K, point eight would be you know, eighty percent of four K, 122 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.800 like eighty percent of the pixels of four K and six sixty percent, 123 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.399 so you're gonna get twenty percent more pixels. Image should be a little sharper, 124 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.519 and then of course there's always the upscaling techniques that they use to fill 125 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.000 in the rest, and then this Some of the graphics details have also been 126 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:16.040 upgraded from high to ultra, but these changes are minor. They do not 127 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.959 appear to be significant enhancements to visual quality. Now, this could be like 128 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.519 placeholder stuff from Hello Games, right, they could be testing things, but 129 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.920 they're like, we will dial this in later, and this could just be 130 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.560 like sitting there for now, like, oh, we know this works, 131 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.279 and let's see what else we can get away with. But we're not gonna 132 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.000 worry about that until we get this very important update out, I would assume 133 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.759 something like that is happening. Sure, I'm not like too worried about the 134 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.320 like literal specs of that mode with More interesting here is the fact that there 135 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:52.759 is a preset for an unannounced pro version of the PlayStation five. Yeah, 136 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.919 exactly, And it's you know, I don't think that the lack of spectacular 137 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.960 improvements here is indicative of what the PS five pro is capable of. Now 138 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.000 we've heard before it's gonna be about forty forty five percent more powerful than the 139 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.000 PS five when all is said and done, and the thing still seems like 140 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.279 it's coming out later this year, you know, I've that's the room that's 141 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.919 been the rumor for a long time. I've for like a couple of new 142 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.559 rumors where it's like, oh no, they're like spooling up the marketing, 143 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:24.679 like they are getting ready to shoot commercials and things like that. So to 144 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.919 me, that says, still this holiday, where are you at with a 145 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:33.200 PS five pro? Like overall, I think my excitement or appetite for a 146 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.080 PS five pro when this first, when this thing was first getting rumored, 147 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.679 was like, Okay, I don't think I need that, And in this 148 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.039 moment, I think it's like lower than that. I'm like even less, 149 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.759 I feel less of a need for that thing than I've ever felt before. 150 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.200 I'm I'm pretty happy with the PS five. How are you feeling? Yeah, 151 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.519 I mean, you know, as some of the truths of it is 152 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.679 that at this point, I'm playing a lot of games on PC. Unless 153 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.759 it is, you know, a big Playsation exclusive, then yeah, I'll 154 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.279 play that in PlayStation. And let's be honest, like this year, that 155 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:11.480 happens like two three times, right the whole calendar year. That's like, 156 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.120 oh, I really need to like invest so much so that you know, 157 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.679 the few games I am gonna end up playing on my PlayStation are going to 158 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.200 like better, not if the pro came out and it was like we are 159 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:26.399 really catching up and it's going to run amazingly well, and you know, 160 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.240 you're you're gonna be you know, happy playing a lot more games on your 161 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:31.799 console. Again, I don't know, but it's like, you know, 162 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.559 like the one game I'm excited to play on my PlayStation this year is Astrobot, 163 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.440 and I already played that on a base PlayStation five at Summer Game Fest 164 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.759 and it seemed like that one at least was looking about as good as I 165 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:48.759 needed to. Like, what's what's the showcase game for this thing going to 166 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:54.039 be? Maybe they're going to explain how Astrobot will look even way more impressive 167 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:56.720 on this thing. That. Don't get me wrong in all this, Jeff, 168 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.279 I'm a sicko. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna buy it too. 169 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.000 Yeah, yeah, but I guess I am really curious to see how they 170 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.679 position it and how much better things are going to look. You know, 171 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.759 is it a matter of some of these games from the past that I wasn't 172 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:18.240 super happy with the performance of, like Jedi Survivor, like Final Fantasy sixteen, 173 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.600 Like, are those going to suddenly work way better on this thing? 174 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.000 That's kind of the big question for me. Yeah. I think there's a 175 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.799 chance that we get like some sight improvements for a lot of those games, 176 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:35.480 nothing major, but like going from thirty to sixty frames per second would be 177 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.720 huge for a lot of those. So I hope that is that this is 178 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.960 what this is all about at the end of the day, I just don't 179 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.639 know if that is what like the marketing will like ride on. Is that 180 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.600 Hey, now those games that were thirty or sixty again we're back there, 181 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.559 or if they will try some nonsense like eight K or something along those lines, 182 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.919 because you know, no one has AKT and even if you do, 183 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.080 who cares gotta help not you don't, You won't see a difference. It's 184 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.840 just not You're just not going to see it between four K and ak so 185 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.240 Abstragon Zongma two gonna look on a placeship vi pro is my question exactly. 186 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.480 Yes, either way, when do you think we hear about this? Obviously 187 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.039 we are in the dregs of summer right now, we are still deep into 188 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.759 July. Uh do you think we get it by August? I think I'm 189 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.519 kind of like leaning towards September, with like a November release or something like 190 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.320 that. I don't know. Yeah, I mean again, it's weird because 191 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.919 like what game is positioned with it? Because Astrobot comes out in September, 192 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.600 right, and like that's basically their biggest game this fall at least you know, 193 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.039 exclusive, So you would imagine and be like, hey, like before 194 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.440 you you know, buy this this game, like you should know, well, 195 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.720 you get excited about the next PlayStation, but again, it's not gonna 196 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.759 there's no way to post come out September. That seems real early, so 197 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.919 maybe not. I don't know, well, if you can really use Lego 198 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.720 Horizon as the show piece for this kind of thing, So I don't know, 199 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.000 it's weird because look, new hardware, you would have thought that maybe 200 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.720 the time to announce that would have been yesterday. In some ways, I 201 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:18.759 guess it doesn't really matter as long as it does come out in November and 202 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.159 it's already for Christmas time. In all of that stuff, you certainly want 203 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.840 it before some of the big third party things. I mean, funnily enough, 204 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.000 I guess one of those would be Call of Duty, right, Yeah, 205 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.240 maybe you want to make sure all the Call of Duty people know like, 206 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.240 hey, you can make Call of Duty look better than ever, Like, 207 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.559 oh, I don't know if you are hearing weird school yard rumors about 208 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.399 Call of Duty being more of an Xbox thing, but it's going to look 209 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.440 better on PlayStation than it does on any Xbox. Maybe that's kind of the 210 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.440 low key pitch on that thing. There's other big third party things like yeah, 211 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.519 there's Assassin's Creed Shadows coming out and other things like that, so maybe 212 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.279 that's going to be the pitch is a lot this third party stuff going to 213 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.559 look much better on here than the Xbox. Although I don't know how much 214 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.279 more marketing they need to do to convince people that they should have a PlayStation 215 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.759 instead of an Xbox. It seems like they've been winning that battle, right. 216 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.639 Maybe there is like like some lingering concerns about Call of Duty. You're 217 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:18.320 right there, like because when you start seeing called doing, you know, 218 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.039 Call of Duty looks great on everything. It's just that that game's always run 219 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.720 well. Is that really going to make a difference. But you're right there, 220 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.039 could just be a perception thing like, hey, no, you should 221 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.679 get the new PS five Pro and that's coming out right alongside Call of Duty. 222 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.279 You should associate those two things and you should stick with PlayStation, reinvest 223 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.559 in PlayStation, don't go over to Xbox. Not that I think that's some 224 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.320 great concern for Sony, but maybe that is part of what is informing their 225 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.399 strategy here. And again, I think the whole reason you do this is 226 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.600 because you know you sold so many PlayStation fives, and you know one way 227 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.519 to sell more PlayStation fives is you got to make a new skew because you 228 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.519 have to get the sick gos like us, it will just buy a new 229 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.679 one to get in and then maybe they're going to give their old PlayStation five 230 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.080 to a friend, a family member, and now that's somebody else in the 231 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.360 ecosystem who is at least buying games. Yeah, you know, it's funny 232 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.320 how in the start of the generation, I was like, I don't think 233 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:15.919 they need to do that anymore, and then as we kind of got into 234 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.799 I don't want to say a stall, they've been selling plastation fives, but 235 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.759 they clearly haven't been selling as many as they would maybe once or there's been 236 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.960 something right, and that's largely tied to, you know, a very slow 237 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.559 software release calendar for them this year. So here's at least something you can 238 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.279 do to drum up some excitement. I am one. I am curious if 239 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.399 this extends the generation all that much like we got uh with the with the 240 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.360 PlayStation four pro, where it seems like we got at least another year out 241 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.639 of that cycle then we would have otherwise, I mean, how many more 242 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.360 years do you think we have of PlayStation fives and Xbox series right now? 243 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.440 As we're getting close to what is it going to be when do these things 244 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.039 come out twenty twenty? They came out in twenty twenty. Yeah, so 245 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.799 god four, they at least feel like four year old consoles to you. 246 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.360 No, now, they don't ever feel like four year old consoles to me. 247 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.360 I guess they're starting to feel a little bit older in my mind when 248 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.480 I think about them, but they are. They're four year old consoles. 249 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.360 I don't think that means the original Xbox, Yes, got replaced by the 250 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.919 three sixty after four years. Yes, it was done by now basically, 251 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:29.039 yeah, I think that when I look at, like how much longer these 252 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.799 things have. It varies between Xbox and PlayStation, but somewhere between twenty twenty 253 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.919 six and twenty twenty eight, I think. I think we get replacements for 254 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.559 both by around twenty twenty eight. So that means the pro has to come 255 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.679 out this year because you can't have like, well, I guess you can. 256 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.879 They did the Xbox Series X or Xbox one X over at Microsoft, 257 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.240 where it's like there was two years of the one X before they got replaced. 258 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.559 I suppose the sickos don't really care. They're happy to buy a new 259 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.759 thing, maybe every couple of years, but still I think. I think 260 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.559 in PlayStation's eyes, they were like, let's get it out this year, 261 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.960 and then in twenty twenty eight we'll have something new to attack to replace it 262 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:08.160 will have a nice long generation to make a lot of money from the PS 263 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.119 five, and then we'll start things fresh then and then Microsoft might try something 264 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:18.039 different in twenty twenty six. So yeah, it's it's it's strange. Last 265 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:21.079 thing about PS five pro, Mike, what do you think the price is 266 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:27.480 going to be? Yeah? Uh, five hundred dollars? Yeah, I 267 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:34.559 mean you don't think it'll be more than the PS five because I meant to 268 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:37.000 say, how much is a PlayStation five or nine? Is five hundred dollars? 269 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.759 Five hundred? Yeah? Right, So it's like would there be a 270 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:42.839 nice drop on the PS five because I don't know. I mean, it 271 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:48.279 partly is like that's what you should that's how it used to it should be, 272 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.640 But yeah, you're right, maybe not a six hundred dollars console seems 273 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.160 wild to me, Like I still hear the words five hundred and ninety nine 274 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:03.640 or US retail dollars right from that E three, the PlayStation three. So 275 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.759 I don't know, there's a part that thinks that just seems wild. But 276 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.960 you know, they might just be positioning this as the real premium thing, 277 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.480 and you know they might do weird things. Gosh, I saw somebody in 278 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.480 chat say like, are they gonna plaster AI over this thing? And man, 279 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.759 if it is just using upscaling, I could see them, because maybe 280 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.119 they're gonna position upscaling as a bigger deal here. I mean they could be 281 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.680 the PlayStation five AI or something like that, or at least the words AI 282 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:34.000 is gonna be on that box. So that's some way they can make it 283 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:40.680 seem like it's some expensive super futuristic thing. Yeah, I mean somewhere between 284 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.640 five hundred and six or dollars. It'd be bizarre feels even more than that. 285 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:48.880 Yes, I don't think it'll be much more than that. I think 286 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:53.480 probably six hundred now, although I'm not like dead set, it will definitely 287 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:57.279 be more than the PS five like a year ago. If it came out 288 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:02.960 in that timeframe, definitely it would have been a lot more. But as 289 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.279 we are slowly coming out of inflation hyperinflation, I should say, it is 290 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:14.119 starting to feel like companies that are obviously raising prices on devices and continue to 291 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.000 try to take profits are looking more and more out of touch, and maybe 292 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.559 there's a chance that Sony feels that pressure and tries to avoid it. But 293 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.400 usually my default here is companies will get away with whatever they can get away 294 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.480 with. And I bet Sony still feels like they can get away with charging 295 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.640 six hundred dollars or more for a PS five pro, especially when they knew 296 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.920 who the audience is after the PS four Pro, when they saw who actually 297 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.839 showed up to buy that thing. They know it's the sickos, and they 298 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.960 know that the siccos will probably pay a little bit more than everyone else. 299 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.599 All right, Yeah, but I mean you can, you know, always 300 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.119 price yourself out. Yes, three DS had that problem way back when, 301 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.799 and they had the course correct. As soon as they did find reasonable price, 302 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:56.799 I was like, Okay, nope, this is selling just fine. 303 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.359 It really was just overpriced. I wonder if maybe they're a little scared to 304 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:06.160 go six hundred and five point fifty is maybe more of a happy medium here 305 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:10.359 between the original price and a higher price. I don't be, cause you 306 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:11.680 know, there are a lot of things these days that it turns out they 307 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.319 are being overpriced. You know, we're seeing the even something as Mondana's fast 308 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:22.039 food restaurants finally lowering their prices a bit. All these people canceling their their 309 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.720 tours? What to are the world tours because tickets are way too expensive? 310 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.359 The Iron Metroid World Tour. Cool? Sure, by the way, that's 311 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.440 right, Yeah, thank you. So, I don't know. I wonder 312 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.640 if they're a little scared to go to six hundred, but you might be 313 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.480 right. They might know this is for the sick goes. They're going to 314 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.599 be willing to spend it. I'm going to be curious to see what the 315 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.880 marketing push for that is and like what the side by sides are actually going 316 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:53.559 to look like, because it's always been diminishing returns and you imagine that would 317 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.079 be doubly true for just you know, a mid console refresh like this. 318 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.400 It I said, last question was the price question, But I should I 319 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:06.319 want to ask this now? Uh, you fucking liar, I'm a liar, 320 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.880 And yeah, you just have to deal with it. Is there any 321 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.119 chance it's not called the PS five PRO? Do you think there's could be 322 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:18.319 called something else the PS five AI. Yeah, there's a chance. I 323 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.759 think it'd be kind of wild to not just go with the PlayStation five pro 324 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:26.880 for great sense. Everybody knows what that means, and that is so difficult 325 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.279 with these things. Uh. And the reason I asked is, and this 326 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.599 is, hey, this is meaningless. It'll go like running with this. 327 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.359 But when I heard some of those rumors about, oh, the marketing spinning 328 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:38.599 up one of the things that like a code name for on the marketing side, 329 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:44.279 because clearly the internal code name is Trinity was PlayStation six point zero. 330 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:48.319 So listen, I think that's just marketers. I think that's them not fully 331 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.960 understanding what they're dealing with. That would be wild if they try to position 332 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.200 this as the PlayStation six yeah, or even if like what if they did 333 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.039 call likes PlayStation six point h like, that would be we I don't think 334 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.319 they're doing that, everybody. Let's be very clear. I don't think that's 335 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.559 what this is. I mean, this is just you just say something to 336 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.440 the marketing team and they're like, well, okay, it's the next PlayStation, 337 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.839 so six pline, now let's go. I don't know ooh, I've 338 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:22.119 worried. Yeah, I mean, I don't think Sony's gonna suddenly start like 339 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:27.440 trying to shake up the way console generations work. It's been working too well 340 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.720 for them, So I just don't think that's very likely something that would be 341 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.880 wild to cannibalize maybe your next system or kind of throw people off like that, 342 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.680 just to get a little bit more juice out of this one. It 343 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.680 would sell better, right, Yeah, it would sell better if you called 344 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:51.200 it the PlayStation six. And I can understand that temptation, but it's it's 345 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.240 a very It's a different thing if you're saying, after four years, hey 346 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.920 give us six hundred dollars for the next real PlayStation. I mean that's wild. 347 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:03.160 And I get it to some extent because when the PlayStation six comes out, 348 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.440 how different isn't going to feel from one of those mid gen refreshes. 349 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.440 It's going to play all your PlayStation five games, right, you know, 350 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.319 so much of that's just going to depend on arbitrary things they decide, like 351 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.160 changing the UI, like changing the way the controller looks and things like that, 352 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.920 Like are going to do that with this? No, I assume that 353 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.240 it's going to, you know, just use the PlayStation five controllers. I 354 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.960 assume it's going to be the same exact operating system and things like that. 355 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.359 You're going to you're going to have the six in there in any way, 356 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:38.519 shape or form. Expectations are a difference. Yeah, that would be a 357 00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:41.400 wild idea. It would be It would probably be a blunder based on what 358 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.400 this thing's actually going to be and the disappointment that would follow. So, 359 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.519 yeah, you're right, and it's not you. That's probably almost certainly not 360 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.079 what that is. Referencing you. Good way to make a lot more PC 361 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.279 gamers in the world, Yeah, a little bit, all right. Next 362 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.359 story, e A Sports College Football twenty five sold two point to million one 363 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:04.119 hundred dollars copies with early access. This is from one hundred dollar copies of 364 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:10.480 hundred dollar copies. This is from Sophie McAvoy at Games Industry dopiz. EA 365 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.839 Sports College Football twenty five sold over two million copies of its Premium edition, 366 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.799 which offered access to the game three days ahead of launch. The publisher announced 367 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.519 on Friday that two point two million players had gained early access to the game. 368 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.839 As noted by IgM, the only way to gain access was to buy 369 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.519 the Dux Edition on console, which retailed at one hundred dollars compared to the 370 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:36.200 seventy dollars standard edition. I would take maybe some potential issue with this because 371 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:41.079 you could play the ten hour demo and so get access to it by having 372 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:44.440 EA Play, and that you get that by having Game Pass Ultimate. So 373 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.640 still, I bet lots of people did buy this game, but I think 374 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:53.160 there's probably a significant portion that that actually did gain access to it through other 375 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:57.079 means. In addition to the two point two million players in early access, 376 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.519 the game also saw six hundred thousand people. Oh no, they have really 377 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.039 literally the next paragraph. In addition to two point two million players in early 378 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:08.200 access, the game also saw six hundred thousand people play the game early through 379 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.759 subscription service EA Play. So there you go, two point eight million people 380 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.240 actually playing the game not reading the story. Wow, now I read up 381 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:18.599 until that paragraph, and I'm like, okay, I got the story. 382 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:26.160 Let's go. According to Soana Circanna analyst Matt Piscitela, EA Sports College Football 383 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.119 was at number three in the US for daily active users on Xbox Series X 384 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:36.799 and S and number four on PS five. Yeah, that's really crazy. 385 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:41.240 That's a huge, huge number. That's we knew there was pent up demand, 386 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.119 but this really shows it. Do you have any thoughts on it? 387 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:45.000 And then I guess we can. I kind of want to talk about the 388 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.519 early accesstuff because it's still a hot topic with some people. No, you 389 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.440 know, this isn't really my thing, Jeff. I've never been a big 390 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.839 fan of the more realistic sports games. I can get into m WIB the 391 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.640 show every once in a while just because I like baseball, you know, 392 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.200 more than any other sport. I'm happy to see a hit, right, 393 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:06.759 which is kind of a wild thing, because normally I don't have to be 394 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:11.279 like I'm worried that there aren't enough hits. See something new like this come 395 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.599 out and make a lot of money is just good for the video game industry, 396 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.799 I hope. Yep. And then the game is selling a time at 397 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.480 one hundred dollars a piece. Yeah, that's wild. I mean, obviously, 398 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:32.000 this method of early access and paying to get the game a few days 399 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.440 early is here to stay. Right. How do you feel about it? 400 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:40.759 Because I personally, I'm not bothered by it. I'll just wait if I 401 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.279 don't want to pay that money, and then I'll get it later. Now 402 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.119 that's said, I know we're on a slippery slope a little bit, and 403 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.319 that this signals to the companies that people are willing to pay more money. 404 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.400 So maybe this could lead to price increases and that that I'm not happy about. 405 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.079 But I just don't mind this necessarily. How do you feel about it 406 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.640 now? You know it's a bit more monetizing the sick because it's something we've 407 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:07.160 seen in lots and lots of other things. You know, mms have been 408 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:12.759 giving early access to people who you know, it's either usually get these more 409 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.279 expensive addition or at least pre order right right, something like that. Now, 410 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.160 again, if it's just a matter of, hey, you could pay 411 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.680 you know more to get in early, I'm not going to feel a whole 412 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.559 lot of pressure there, unless it's like, you know, something I'm really 413 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.759 excited about and there's other things in that more expensive version that I would want 414 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.200 anyways, or it's again, it's such a big deal to me that I 415 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.960 don't mind splurging a little bit. I'm not going to be upset that some 416 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.160 people are playing a game three days early earlier than me. I can wait, 417 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:48.000 I could do something else. I could kill more time playing old Nintendo 418 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.200 games, right, But you're right, like it is. I hope people 419 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.880 aren't like, like, wow, look how happy everybody is to spend one 420 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.920 hundred dollars on a video game. We should maybe just make that the standard. 421 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.680 That could be a disaster. I hope that's not what people are thinking. 422 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.559 Yeah. I think what's what they're really thinking is there's like malleyability in 423 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:15.000 how they can price different parts of the market right where it's there are people 424 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.400 willing to pay one hundred dollars, and they know that there are millions of 425 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.480 people out there willing to pay twenty dollars and they'll get to them eventually, 426 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.599 And then I think that's that's probably the right way to do this, where 427 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:30.319 it's like pay let's put a nerd tax on something and let them, you 428 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.960 know, the huge nerds for college football show up and pay extra money, 429 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:38.119 and they could sort of subsidize these games for everyone else that's going to stay 430 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:44.640 to the seventy dollars price tag. I know it's maybe a very optimistic way 431 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.839 of looking at it, but I do think that's part of what's happening here 432 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.519 is that these companies are like, look, we can charge this segment more. 433 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.480 Let's do it, and then the normal price could say the normal price 434 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:57.039 for even longer because we are finding ways to make more money from these games 435 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:03.960 in other ways. Alright, let's see here, Let's take a quick break. 436 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.880 When we get back, plenty more headlines to get into right after this. 437 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.960 All right, we are right back into it with Concord gets surprisingly low 438 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.640 Steam numbers during open beta. This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor. 439 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.440 Sony struck gold earlier this year with the launch of Hell Divers two, a 440 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.319 game that proved incredibly popular both on PC and PS five. While the player 441 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.559 based for Hell Divers two might have fallen off substantially, there are still plenty 442 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.160 of players logging on in any given day. It seemed like that this PC 443 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.880 and PS five strategy will be Sony's new normal for its live service efforts. 444 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.319 But it seems that lightning hasn't struck twice. Concord, Firewalk Studio and Sony's 445 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.880 team based hero shooter has failed to drum up an audience on Steam. By 446 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.079 the looks of things, over the course of an open beta weekend, where 447 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.519 one would expect people to be interested enough to give it a go, Concord 448 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.240 only managed to peak current player count of twenty three hundred eighty eight as per 449 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.160 Steam Database. It's worth noting that the game is also available on the Epic 450 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.039 Game Store, and there are likely plenty of people who enjoyed the game on 451 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:12.759 PlayStation, but these numbers are still not very encouraging. Yeah, I think 452 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.960 not very encouraging. It is probably the right way to put it. I 453 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:21.240 don't think again that this is not the the a death sentence for this game 454 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.559 at this moment. Like I think the launch really still can be something very 455 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:29.039 different depending on a lot of factors. But this is not going to be 456 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:30.839 the kind of thing where it's like, all right, now we know that 457 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.480 this game is going to be a hit. It feels like it's a long 458 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.240 way from turning into a hit at this point, right, Yeah, I 459 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.440 mean, because again, this is going to be, you know, a 460 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.720 game with a price tag forty bucks, hey, sixty bucks for the Digital 461 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.319 Bucks edition to guess you three days of early access there it is again. 462 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:53.240 So I think it's worrying that when the game was free for a few days, 463 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.640 and even after a period of time where you know, people could play 464 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.839 it also online, maybe you know fewer people at this was just the open 465 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:07.039 beta available to everybody, and if there's a lack of interest in that, 466 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.359 I think that's concerning, especially again when the full release is going to have 467 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:17.079 a forty dollars price tag to get into it. I mean, I'm not 468 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.480 I'm not feeling super confident about, you know, the prospects for this game, 469 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.519 and you know, sid so much of that. Man, the first 470 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.400 impressions are important with these kind of things, Jeff. And again, I 471 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.839 know you can't way second guess these things. I'm not sure what exactly the 472 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.000 thinking was with that very story specific trailer. You kind of said it before. 473 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.440 It's like, Wow, this is a PlayStation game, So that's what 474 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.599 people kind of expect with these things. Maybe I don't really know that's what 475 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.039 they expect with this kind of game, with these things. I did actually 476 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.920 I played the open beta, right, So yeah, I spent a few 477 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.119 hours with this thing. And you know, I'm somebody who's really like overwatching 478 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.920 other kind of hero based or class based shooters before. Yeah, I was 479 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.839 having fun. I mean, I was enjoying it. I like that the 480 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.880 time to kill is a bit longer in this one, so it makes it 481 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:13.400 feel a little bit more that Halo Slash Destiny flavor as opposed to being a 482 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.839 pure Overwatch kind of clone. And there was, you know, a mode 483 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.839 that was basically the counter strike mode and kind of doing counter strike stuff with 484 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.839 these hero characters. That was kind of fun to me. And you know, 485 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.400 there's a lot of characters, so you find a few of them that 486 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.519 click with you a bit, right, you know, have said all that, 487 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:35.000 like, none of these characters are as immediately appealing or interesting as you 488 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.720 know, what Overwatch can do. You know, I also played some of 489 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.960 our Watch too, because they have a new character in that Juno. I 490 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.279 just like, looking at you, I'm like, this character looks so cool. 491 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:51.759 It's like an eighty sci fi anime like Space Girl. That's awesome. 492 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.720 And you know, it's just so much it's just so much more visually appealing 493 00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:00.599 and interesting off the bat than this kind of more like you know, like 494 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.920 these people have realistic faces Jeff right, I think that's the best way to 495 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.000 put it. There's a realism here that I think is not really a good 496 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.240 fits. And you know, the Guards of the Galaxy thing that can maybe 497 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.359 be overstated that one character, the big guy, is just so drax that 498 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.000 it's kind of insulted. H right, yep, Oh, this is the 499 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.240 big guy who like kind of talks a little stiff, and like, you 500 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:28.039 know, worries about honor, things like oh god, this is just a 501 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.440 drax. So you know, it's kind of wild to me that so much 502 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.960 of what they're positioning with this game is like the storyline the characters, when 503 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:39.599 it seems to be the weakest component. Yep, it's I don't envy there 504 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.319 the position they're in. I think trying to make like a game and go 505 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:49.519 like, okay, let's make characters disappealing as Blizzard makes them is very, 506 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.640 very challenging, Like they just that was an uphill battle from the beginning, 507 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.440 and I don't like hate the roster and I even kind of like mentioned this 508 00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.759 some of our camera where we were I was won over a little bit by 509 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.960 some the story elements that they that they had in the videos, but not 510 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.880 to the point where I'm like now super excited to go play the game. 511 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.239 I was more like, oh, wow, this is better than I expected. 512 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.719 And I think that is kind of still where Concord mostly is. For 513 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.400 me. It's either oh, this is fine or that's better than I expected. 514 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.000 It's just I think I had pretty low expectations, so it's not reaching 515 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.840 to the point where it is sort of having this poll that is taking me 516 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:29.239 away from anything else that I'm interested in playing right now. So yeah, 517 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.679 I feel like it's it's not like done, but I think that they are 518 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.800 going to have to like really figure out some marketing for this game. They're 519 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.760 going to have to really figure out how to how to get people interested, 520 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.519 and it might they might have to make the game sort of free with like 521 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.239 PlayStation Plus or something like that to get make sure that there is a certain 522 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.760 number of people playing. But you know, we saw you know, an 523 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.239 open beta and barely anyone touching it. It's it's rough out there, and 524 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.679 what do you think this says for the rest of Sony's like a live service 525 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.400 apar Coach going forward? Like this is the one that they didn't cancel, 526 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.320 right They had several other projects that they're like, well, we're not going 527 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.960 to do that factions thing from Naughty Dog anymore. I feel like factions from 528 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.800 Naughty Dog, regardless of what like the cost of monetization or like the micro 529 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.360 transactions was going to be for the team, because that was the concern is 530 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.199 we have so much content, we'd have to make this thing to keep it 531 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.199 going long term. I feel like you put that thing out for forty dollars 532 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.360 with you know, a few updates every once in a while, and that 533 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.639 does way better than this. But maybe I'm just fantasy booking. Yeah, 534 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:36.519 there's so many questions about that still of factions because you're right, like, 535 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.039 man, there's nothing the salvage there. There's no product to release and make 536 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:46.800 some money from the Last of Us arguably Sony's most important franchise. So that's 537 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.920 that is wild in a lot of ways. But gosh, you're right, 538 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.719 it is such an upward battle and Sony's it's you know, when you're doing 539 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.320 ten or whatever hover it was online multiplayer projects, you're like, okay, 540 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.000 you're casting a wide net. I guess that's the idea. But it's like, 541 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.639 okay, you're lucky to get one hit or two. And they seemed 542 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.960 to get really lucky with hell Divers too. That's you can do way better 543 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.800 than anybody would have expected. It's like, okay, great, how many 544 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.760 problems did that solve? Was like, you know, PlayStation is suddenly super 545 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.039 more secure now than it ever was, and it's kind of like, no, 546 00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.719 like already we're talking about player numbers falling down for that a bit. 547 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.719 It's kind of like, well, what's it a Fortnite hit. Well, 548 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.079 okay, yeah, of course not is that the expectation, because god, 549 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.719 Concord can never be that. I should be careful what I say because now 550 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.519 you watch somehow it will be. But you know, good for it if 551 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.599 it can be, you know, like, yeah, okay, how many 552 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.159 more Hell Divers two size hits do you need to get for PlayStation to suddenly 553 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.119 be like, okay, great, this is actually making up for all the 554 00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:00.880 money we used to make by just being able to release more games. I 555 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.000 don't know, And again, like when's the next next one after Concord? 556 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.119 Is a few things cooking, but you know there's no last of us, 557 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.599 which again, and that's wild to me. It you know, you see 558 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.199 why it's sounded like a good strategy, and maybe it still is. You 559 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.519 know, I don't see the numbers, but you know, you know, 560 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:20.119 we got a Health Divers too, and now we're getting a Concord and maybe 561 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.559 not anything else for a while. And it just doesn't seem like Concord is 562 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:28.119 going to be pulling a ton of weight. Yeah, I agree. Ebo 563 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.199 happened over the weekend, and it was it was a great event. I 564 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.239 watched some of all of the events, but especially you paid attention to Street 565 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.960 Writers three, and I was happy with that because there was some great moments 566 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.039 in there, some really excellent moments in fact, but there were some news 567 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.079 out of there. I just got a couple of stories, Mike. If 568 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:45.960 there's anything else you want to call out, feel free. But Tech and 569 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.599 eight is bringing back Heihachi and adding a new story chapter. This is from 570 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.199 some upstart called timor Hussein, a game spot. Van dy Namco has announced 571 00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.480 Hayachi Mishima as the next DLC character for Tech and eight and revealed that, 572 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.679 for the first time in the series's history, a new chapter in the story 573 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.360 mode will be added to the game. The extra story content will delve deeper 574 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.039 into the ongoing feud between the Mishima and Cosma families. The announcement was final. 575 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.039 We're going to talk about that. I know it's been overlooked for far 576 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.159 too long. The announcement was made during EVO twenty twenty four, at which 577 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.639 Tech and eight was a major attraction for players wanting to compete in high level 578 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.960 battles and viewers who want to see the best of the best duke it out 579 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.199 in a fighting game. Heyachi is a fan favorite character and one of the 580 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:34.159 main antagonists of the of the Techan series. His arrival follows Eddie Gordo at 581 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:40.199 DLC character that is already available, and Lydia Sebska Sobiska, who will be 582 00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.239 un President Yes, who will be available widely from July twenty fifth. Heyachi 583 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.800 is expected to be available in fall twenty twenty four. Yeah, hey, 584 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.400 you know, we kind of knew this was going to happen eventually, but 585 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.920 I don't know how well, what's the grunts? I don't know, am 586 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:00.159 I fuddy that he about to say it? I did this a little bit 587 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.639 when they did the Bison also, I you know, fighting games always do 588 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.519 this. They always kill off the bad guy because well, you know, 589 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.800 you got to kill bad guys at the end of the things, and they're 590 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.760 like, uh shit, the new Ones, how people were probably going to 591 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.320 play as that guy because you know, he's a popular character, so you 592 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.280 got to bring him back from the dead by either just saying, oh, 593 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.960 he survived anyways, or yeah, but I mean is more important than the 594 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:30.719 sanctity of death in the tech In universe. But but you know, we 595 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.960 have Raino. They made a whole new character that basically kind of had that 596 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.559 move set and everybody liked that character. Anyways, and again you get one 597 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.119 new character, you know, three or four months, it's like, okay, 598 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.960 great, one of these slatches for another Mishima style character. Look, 599 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.800 I don't know. I'm a little bit of a fuddy duddy about this kind 600 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:53.440 of thing and about in general, characters coming back to death constantly in media. 601 00:39:53.679 --> 00:40:00.159 It's just kind of one of my pet peeves, you know, hey, 602 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.079 like just because again where everyone's in on the joke. It's funny having 603 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.480 heradas little things saying that he's dead for sure at the end of it whatever, 604 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.199 But it's like, oh god, we really just can't ever, ever, 605 00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.079 ever move on from anything. But then I get's a very popular character, 606 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.880 he's like one of the most iconic Techning characters. Well then don't kill 607 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.199 him, and then don't kill him if you know you can't actually kill him. 608 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:27.480 So yeah, I'm a little fuddy duddy about this. And then the 609 00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.639 other aspect of it is, you know, I'm glad we're getting more story 610 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.519 mode content. But one of my few complaints with the tech Any story mode, 611 00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.280 which I thought was excellent, is that it is entirely about the Mishimas, 612 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:43.079 so it focuses very heavily on a few specific characters and then other people 613 00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.320 that are maybe more interested in seeing stuff from we don't get so, you 614 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.239 know, I guess, Hey, of course the story mode is going to 615 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.800 be about Mishima's again, and at least it seems like Jen necessarily isn't super 616 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.480 involved with it, and it's gonna be about what Hayachi is up to and 617 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.360 why he's alive and all this stuff. That's fine, But you know, 618 00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.159 if you told me like this one's going, you know, the next deal 619 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.519 C is going to really focus more on Nina, right, I'd be kind 620 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:12.320 of interested in that. But you know, presumably we're all going to see 621 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.719 what's going off Raina and kind of what she was up to was the cliffhanger 622 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.480 from the last story mode. So that's fine, it'll be interesting, but 623 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.840 I don't know. How do you feel about it, Jeff? Yeah, 624 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.559 I mean I feel the same way as you do about the story where it's 625 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.960 like I wish they were expanding, Well, who knows how they're actually maybe 626 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.280 they do expand the story, and hey, Hachi is just sort of the 627 00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.400 the tarp they put over to get people interested, and maybe they'll do some 628 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.559 interesting stuff with that. But like on its face, suggesting that this is 629 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.280 going to be more about the same battle that we've been dealing with is a 630 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.840 little disappointing, I think. But I'm glad, Hey, Hachi's back. 631 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.599 I wanted them to come back. I don't care about any of the same 632 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.639 stuff that I am. Not a fuddy Nora Duddy about this. It's like, 633 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.599 yeah, no, you should bring back that character. That's very cool. 634 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.400 I think that is excellent. He throws dudes in volcanoes. He should 635 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.480 be alive instead of dead. That's my opinion. They don't kill him, 636 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:15.639 don't. It's hard to kill people too. It doesn't bother me. S 637 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.000 and K is bringing S and K versus Capcom SVC Chaos to PC, Switch 638 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.760 and PS four. It's from Andy Robinson at BGC. S and K has 639 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:30.639 re released its classic fighting crossover S and K versus Capcom SVC Chos for pcvs 640 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:36.360 THEM, with Switch and PS four versions arriving tomorrow as in today, July 641 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.079 twenty second. SVC Chaos was originally released in arcades in two thousand and three 642 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.880 with PS two and Xbox Sports A riding layer. Later The title was never 643 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.800 previously released for PC or Nintendo platforms. The game features a roster of thirty 644 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.599 six characters across various series from S and K mainly King of Fighters and Capcom 645 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:59.559 mainly Street Fighter. This version includes new rollback, net code and tournament modes, 646 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.239 as well as a hip box viewer and a gallery mode featuring eighty nine 647 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.079 pieces of artwork like key art, character portraits, and more. That's cool. 648 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:13.199 I'm glad Ebo's getting shadow drops. That's always a fun time. I'm 649 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.960 I'm like probably just gonna grab this and have it and maybe play it a 650 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.840 little bit. I'm not like planning to dive into it in any major way. 651 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.639 You got any love for SVC Chaos. I never really played much of 652 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:29.639 it, actually, because the game's reputation isn't great, right, So this 653 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.679 is this one came out after Capcom's to cap converss S and K games, 654 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.559 Right, this is different, and this is different. So through casual fans 655 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.119 like, well, I thought the cap converse isn't kick No, this is 656 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.639 not that. This is S and K's game, right, And this was, 657 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.599 yeah, the one S and K made, and you know it was 658 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.639 still like running I think on Neogo hardware, which at this point was very 659 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.599 very old, so it didn't really look as good as CAP Converses and K. 660 00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.519 I also kind of had a strangely our prisonation. In general, the 661 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.800 game was just kind of criticized for the sort of vibe of it being a 662 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.400 little bit weird. I bet still plays really well, and seeing the kind 663 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:15.119 of S and K version of Capcom characters is pretty fun, So I am 664 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.639 excited to go and play this. Cap con Versus S and K two is 665 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.760 the one that I really want. But you know, seeing them do this 666 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.719 does give me hope it happens. There's a part of me it's like, 667 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.239 oh, we're just really this by itself and not doing a collection with this 668 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.679 and the two Conversuses S and K games. Maybe that's difficult because again you 669 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:38.000 have two different developers and publishers involved with those games, so you couldn't really 670 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:43.760 easily put this one together with the Cap con Versus and K games. I 671 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.920 don't know, but I am glad that this is still getting that release and 672 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.119 it is getting things like rollback net code, right, you know, because 673 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:52.880 like otherwise, if you wanted to play this game, you are depending on 674 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:59.039 emulation. I don't think there ever was a release for it outside of it 675 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.639 coming out to you know, Xbox at PS two in two thousand and three 676 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.760 and two thousand and four. So yeah, great, let's get these fighting 677 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:13.400 games out on modern platforms because you know, even a lesser pixel based fighting 678 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.000 game from back then. Uh, they don't get a lot of those anymore. 679 00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.679 So there's still something very novel and interesting about them. Yep. I 680 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.880 would. I would just rather have it than not have it. This is 681 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.760 so I feel. I think it's great from that perspective. And like I 682 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.639 said, I'll just you know, add it on the Steam account or something 683 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.800 like that and play it for a little bit and just to see what it 684 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.920 looks like. Mostly yeah, zero in this game as the secret character. 685 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.639 Oh never mind, man, throw your trash. Wow, okay, damn 686 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.360 ship and then bring it back to life. Yeah, you're right, all 687 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.440 right, you're right. My bad. Now you're interested in a piece of 688 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.960 shit? Yeah, all right. Listen, they did something interesting in the 689 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:52.400 character. They killed them and brought them back. They've never done that before. 690 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.639 Uh. Capcom's dream is to make more Marvel crossover games. This is 691 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.760 from Virginia Glaze at Dexterdo and All Times Games journalist's name. Shuhei Matsumoto, 692 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.599 producer of Street Fighter six in the Marvel versus Capcom Fighting game Code Collection, 693 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.760 spoke with Dexerdo in an exclusive interview where he shed some light on the future 694 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.360 of the NVC series. Basically just said we want to do more, and 695 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.079 we've been hearing them kind of like suggest this recently. I was like, 696 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.679 hey, yeah, this is definitely something we're looking at Capcom. You know, 697 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.559 someone in chat said that SVC Chaos came out at S and K's lowest 698 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.360 point. We're right now at Capcom's highest point. And them just like talking 699 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:35.760 like, man, maybe we want to do some more crossover games. Has 700 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.199 me like super excited that this is something that is going to happen and probably 701 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.440 be amazing. Are you getting your hopes out? Mike? Oh yeah, 702 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:46.679 absolutely? Got mean. Okay, so they want to do it. Who 703 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.239 doesn't want to do that with Capcom right now? Like if I'm a Sega 704 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.679 or something, I would have been on the phone yesterday. This is SVC. 705 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.920 There we go, We'll get another new SVC. We see three Sega 706 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.239 versus Capcom Like yeah, hey, you want to make that game, And 707 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.639 like put all our characters in it, and you know, like give us 708 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.480 some money and raise their profile. Sure. Absolutely. It's also great because 709 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.719 it gives Capcom a way of putting a lot of it's Dawn street Fighter fighting 710 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.039 game characters. Because you know, it's like, I want to get a 711 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.960 new Dark Suckers, a new rival School's, a new Powerstone. Are those 712 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.079 things going to happen? Eh? Probably not, or at least they're way 713 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.880 less likely than you know, just the next Street Fighter. But in a 714 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.119 versus game, you can just throw all of those characters in there, you 715 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.679 know. You know, for a while, I was just like, just 716 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.000 do some just do a Capcom versus Capcom. Even right these days, it 717 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:43.800 seems like another mar versus Capcom is super likely, and frankly, another Capcom 718 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:51.119 versus S and K seems super plausible with Terry and My coming to street Fighter 719 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.960 six. We also got another teaser trailer of Terry and street Fighter six during 720 00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.440 EVO and that looks great. But yeah, like we should be getting way 721 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:02.639 more of these games. There's so many possibilities. I do think we're not 722 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.519 going to get anything else until at least those two first. I mean, 723 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.119 I have no idea why you don't do a Marvel versus capcom for whatever they 724 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.159 want, ken you do, yes, right, that's the one you do, 725 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.719 and you probably also do with Cap versus S and K. But there 726 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.880 are so many possibilities out there, you know. I mean that day one 727 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.039 instead of versus a Tatsunoko, I still don't even know what that is. 728 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.000 Uh So come on, Yeah, there's there's a lot of ways to have 729 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.039 fun with this concept that they should be doing more with there for sure. 730 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.519 Yeah, Tetsunako is Tetsunoko is not ultraman, but I always confuse it with 731 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.280 ultraman, I think is how it goes. So yeah, I don't know 732 00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:43.679 either. Give me writer of to you cowards your pieces of shit. Tails 733 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.400 of Zilia remastered switch release spoted online. I think it might be coming to 734 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.400 other things as well, but this is from Nintendo Life, Liam Dolan Bandy 735 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.599 Namco could be gearing up for a remaster of the twenty eleven fantasy role playing 736 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.199 game Tales of Zilia. According to a new Room or doing the rounds online, 737 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:04.199 some reddit use have supposedly discovered possible retailer leaks, with Switch, PlayStation 738 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:09.079 and Xbox listings surfacing on three European websites owned by the same company for a 739 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:15.280 remastered version of Zilia. It seems these products product listings are also registered to 740 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.679 bandy Namco, and there's some artwork included. Tales of Zilia was originally released 741 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.079 on the PlayStation three and was followed by a sequel in twenty twelve, which 742 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:28.119 was also exclusively available on the same platform. Bandy Namco has previously released Tales 743 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:32.280 of Aspiria Definitive Edition and Tales of Simfonia Remastered for the Switch, and online 744 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.320 listing for Tales of Zilia two popped up in twenty eight team for the PlayStation 745 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.679 four, but to this day, the sequel remains exclusive to PS three. 746 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.639 Are you getting your hopes up for this one? Mike? Someone who I 747 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.760 know is You're like the one person I know who's played these Tales games recently. 748 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.800 Yeah. No, I like Tales quite a bit. Nearly is one 749 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.760 that I've never really jumped into. I think, just because there's some awareness 750 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:58.480 to me about there being two of them. You don't usually get direct sequels 751 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.000 in this franchise. Uh, And it would be weird to me if the 752 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.440 games should come out and they die and stay dead. Yeah. My God, 753 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.119 you know, if you're going to release these games, I kind of 754 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:14.159 hope you give me both of them at this point, but it would not 755 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.760 be shocking. They have been remastering a lot of the Tales games. You 756 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:22.599 got the very good Vesperia remaster and then the terrible Symphonia remaster. Uh. 757 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:27.599 You know, the Stefonia thing was a weird situation there with them, you 758 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.239 know, not having the source code of the better gamecub version, so point 759 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.880 to them, they have to release the bad, thirty fps lame PS two 760 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.559 version. I guess that's how it works. I don't know. I guess 761 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:43.559 I'm a little We're we're getting this before Tales of the Abyss, which is 762 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:49.440 a beloved entry that came out sort of in between Symphonia and Vesperia. You 763 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.280 know that had a three D sport back in the day, so maybe in 764 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.760 their minds like, oh no, we already did something with that one not 765 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.559 too long ago, even though I think what most people really want is to 766 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.159 be able to play it on mod or home contals are at least on the 767 00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:06.519 switch. But no, like Zelie is going to happen sooner or later. 768 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.639 So yeah, I'm happy to see them do this. Yeah, the Tales 769 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:15.519 of Games I always thought looked pretty, yeah, pretty and interesting as someone 770 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.880 who was not super in RPGs, but was paying attention during to all the 771 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.039 games Race or GameCube because not that there was a million of those. So 772 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.320 like when Tales of was that Simfonia came out on GameCube? That's simpolt, 773 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.440 Yeah, Savoni, it was the GameCube one that was the first one I 774 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.679 played, because it was like, you know, if you didn't have a 775 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.360 lot of RPGs, an original one. So the fact that that came out 776 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.960 and it was good, it seemed like that's when a lot of people discovered 777 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.280 the series exactly. So I was like paying attention at that time and then 778 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.760 realizing over time like oh, there's all these other Tales of Games and they're 779 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.559 part of the same series. Yeah, this will probably happen, as you 780 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.320 said, because they've been doing this and they're probably looking for another one to 781 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.000 do next, and this is probably the next one in line. If you're 782 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.760 interested in the series, do do look into that Tales of Asparia Definite Edition 783 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.079 that's on everything. It's great on Switch. I like that game a lot. 784 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:05.760 Yep, all right, that does it for the news I have some 785 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.880 poll questions that we need to get through and ask here in a second, 786 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:13.400 let me get that set up. See, Uh, did you see that 787 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.599 but as the union thing? Oh yeah, I did mean to put that 788 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.639 in there. Yes, that as the unionized uh, basically across the board, 789 00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.719 right right. Yeah, it's not just QA testers or anything like that. 790 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.880 It's like it's it's all of it's uh, it's workers. So it 791 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.760 seemed substantial and uh, you know it's a big one, but I think 792 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.519 it's first time that's happened at least a Microsoft t xbox game studio or anything 793 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.480 like that. Right. Microsoft is previously said that they would they would uh 794 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:45.880 recognize unions going forward, so they that should be good news for them. 795 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:51.800 Uh, that's really really cool. That is that feels like a sea change. 796 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.880 That feels like it has officially like come if the one of the biggest 797 00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:00.440 studios in the world that has made some of the biggest games in world, 798 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.800 and it's has no like there's no evidence of them slowing down anytime soon. 799 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.119 They're working on Elder Scroll six. Uh to me, that says, okay, 800 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.199 if they can do it, any studio can do it. And maybe 801 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.840 that's not true, but it's it's starting to feel that way, so very 802 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.199 exciting. All right, let's see here poll. Well, sorry, did 803 00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:22.679 you all see Lucy from cyberpunk Ed Runners is going to Guilty Year Stride? 804 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.000 Yeah? The other Oh you might bring that one up. That looked that 805 00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:28.159 looked pretty cool. Cool too. I'm not like super into that series, 806 00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.880 but that seems like a character that fits that game. Yeah, yeah, 807 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.800 yeah, exactly, it seems like a good fit. So that's smart. 808 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.079 You know, you know, that's a game that's kind of you know, 809 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.000 that's been out for a while now, so you cannot to have an interesting 810 00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:45.599 guest character to get you know, people assigned something like the super hardcore interested 811 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.119 in that, So that's smart. Yep, all right, pull question from 812 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.280 Friday. Have you made an in game purchase in the last year? Fifty 813 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.880 seven percent said yes, forty three percent said no. We do have a 814 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.639 new poll question. We will get to that here in a second. In 815 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.400 the meantime, Mike, why don't you tell people where they can find you 816 00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.840 on the internet, what you have going on and all that good stuff. 817 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.000 I'm a managing editor over at Gainstpeed, so please check us out over there. 818 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.440 Nineties Disney is my Disney Podcast. We did an episode talking about our 819 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:23.199 favorite transportation options in Disney theme parks and other theme parks, so that was 820 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.840 fun. Speaking of Disney, check out men Max. They posted a video 821 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.599 of me gallivanting around Disneyland, which is a fun time. The forty minute 822 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:35.880 version is free. There's a four hour version available just to their Patreon, 823 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.800 so check that out if you are so inclined. It was funny because you 824 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.039 were going back to Disneyland for like, have you been there very frequently in 825 00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.199 like the last couple of years, and you're like you had just done the 826 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.880 Hey, let's guide some idiots through this place and have a good time. 827 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.679 You're like, I'm looking forward to like maybe spending some time with myself. 828 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.760 And then there's this video where you're like you are once again guiding people around 829 00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.760 and I'm back, like, as soon as it got started, you were 830 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.159 like, no, this is fun. I'm sure there's a good time. 831 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.960 Thought that's actually it was an amazing time. I had a lot of fun, 832 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.159 and you know, there was like an hour where I'm the last person 833 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.800 standing, so I still had that just wandering around by myself time. Yep, 834 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.880 that's still seems very very cool. All right, Uh, let's see 835 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.320 your new pole question. Uh, I got it right here? Do you 836 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:22.199 feel? Alar is amazed about the story where when we went outside Rise Resistance 837 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:27.519 and Dan was like, is this shoot outside? Yep, backward? Did 838 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.760 you hear it? Did you see? Uh while you're gone? Did you 839 00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:35.320 see us having to tell Dan A Rinkert that the sun has No, you 840 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.440 can't see that. No, you'll kill him. You can't tell this one. 841 00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:43.639 Oh that's right, jes Janda doesn't know either. O. You guys 842 00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.400 missed that. Huh. Yeah, you started because he was like, oh, 843 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.719 if I had like a little bit of the sun in my room, 844 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.960 that wouldn't kill me, right, suddenly would a spoonful of the sun. 845 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:58.440 He's like, the Sun's just the lava, right, And we're like no 846 00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.519 that he kind of wouldn't believe us, and then he's like, I try 847 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.960 to explain that the sun's just always exploding. He's like, well, that 848 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.679 doesn't make any sense. It doesn't look like an explosion. I'm looking at 849 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:09.239 it right now. It's not exploding. Yeah, And I was like, 850 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.119 well, that's because of the gravity. And then he said the sun has 851 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.039 gravity, and then we just kind of got sad. Yeah, I got 852 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:24.199 real sad. I got bummed out. That one doesn't feel good like Chan's 853 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:27.639 going back on vacation. Yep, this is what I was worried about. 854 00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.400 All right, New Pole question, do you feel a need to upgrade to 855 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.679 the PS five Pro? We will just give me the PS six point zero 856 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.159 or the PlayStation six point zero. Sure, why not. We'll get the 857 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.880 results of that and discuss it on Games Morning is on Wednesday here on Giant 858 00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.239 Bomb. Speaking a Giant Bomb, it should be mostly a normal week in 859 00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.639 a lot of ways. I know Jan's got some some comic con stuff happening 860 00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:52.760 here here and there, but we'll have BombCast. We will have a Blake 861 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.280 Club, and I don't think there's any reason Blake Club wouldn't happen, So 862 00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.920 club expect, expect Blake Club. There could be a new Jeff Jeff's things 863 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.840 that voicemail dumb truck. If you didn't listen to that last voicemail dumb truck, 864 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:06.199 you should. It was a very good one. Everyone was on the 865 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.559 top of their game. We'll have UPF BCR all that kind of stuff. 866 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:14.119 Maybe a power Bomb cast in there, who knows. We'll figure it all 867 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.079 out. Let you all know, maybe some more ten Dye World Championship stuff. 868 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.159 Yes, now that we can kind of get all together and do something. 869 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.360 Yes, that sounds like a very good time. Now that way, 870 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:27.119 now we know how it all actually works for sure. Yep. All right, 871 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.159 let's see here we did the pull question. Mike, thank you so 872 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:31.599 much for hanging out with me today talk about video games, man, I 873 00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:36.320 really appreciate it, especially after staying up till five am with me. Yeah, 874 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.559 yep, great decisions were made all around. Yep. Absolutely, Uh. 875 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:44.159 You can always get more of mic over at games beat everybody check them 876 00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.079 out there. All right, I think that's going to do it for the 877 00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.000 show. Let's get out of here until next time. You're the best audience 878 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.480 in gaming. Have a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye. By ye