Adventist Radio London. Inspiration for the song, Well, welcome to Talking Point
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it's talking Point, it's talking Point conversations. You need to have good evening,
good evening, good evening, and welcome to Talking Point. I hope
you've all had a blessed sabbath, and yes, thank you for joining us,
so it's going to be a good one today. I think that's going
on in chuckling. Um, my name's Angela, um, another co host
on Talking Point, and I'm joined as usual with Zenia. Good evening,
everyone, Welcome to Talking Point. Um, yeah, it's all happening.
Keep us in your prayers today. Yes, anyway, both in studio today,
which is good. UM, so yes, let's yes, hopefully it'll
go to plan and then on Zoom we've got other hosts Pedro, Hey,
dear Pedro. Good evening, everybody, welcome to Talking Points. Had a
good sabbath yea. And then as part of our program today, we've got
some other guests on us today because we're talking about a trip that we went
or went on a few weeks ago doing a bit of a review, and
we traveled. Sometimes we like to do talking points on the road, talking
point live from different places. So a couple of weeks ago, end of
April, we took talking Point on the road to Paris, France. We
Um, my friend is not great, but I will say bone sure,
bonsa bat. It's as much as I know, I understand it more than
I speak it. But hey, let's we'll do what we can. But
joining us, so we traveled with Pastor Ray Patrick, who is out and
about today. I think he's in Clapton bats he today. Um so,
But with us who traveled was Tara, Tara Pedro's wife, heyding par Tara,
I'm okay, how you guys doing. We're good, We're good.
And also her partner in crime Josephine, who you all should know from the
Breakfast Show and um he hears you the Press show on a Wednesday. Josephine
us partner in Christ partner Christ. Yes, don't you can imagine? Just
for the last is here. We had a really good weekend. Um the
team that went out, So we're going to be sharing a bit about our
experiences of our time in France and just kind of how it was for us
in terms of being part of a little bit part of a campaign, the
worship experience, and just being somewhere where we don't speak the language. Fully.
Yeah, I think we all spoke very little, very little, but
we're able to kind of be part of that service and experience anyway. So
and I think that for me was my opener. I mean, praise worship
music, you know, it's it's universal, and we were able to just
be part of it. And even though we couldn't understand all of it,
um you know, the spirit word, the spirit moved and we were truly
truly blessed. So yes, so it's worshiping any language, as it were.
So as there's always as we're starting, let's um enter ask God to
be with us for our program today. So let's pray, Father God.
I want to thank you for blessers with another sabbath, Dear Lord, and
want to thank you for the opportunity that we have on this platform to share
your word and share our experiences and hopefully somebody will be inspired and will be
blessed. I pray that you keep us all safe and help us to have
an enjoyable program. And yes, thank you Lord for being so amazing.
That's my prayer. Amen. Amen, Amen. So how is everybody?
Let's start off with how everybody's week has been. I know we always do
this, and I've had a few people tell me, come on, your
week's must be quite exciting, must quite interesting. So let's start with you,
Pejo, how's your week been? Fast? I know, right,
I felt like the bank holiday was Monday, was chilling at home, I
got the rest a little bit, and then next thing I know, it's
Friday. I'm like, wow, where did the week go? He was
just fast, very busy week. Traveled it coast to coast this week.
Stars in North Wales one day, the next day I was in holl Wow.
Yeah, that's about it. Just working, you know, just spending
time with the kids and the wife this weekend and just enjoying the week.
But definitely we went fast. Yeah, we're already nearly midway through the year,
that's true. Yeah, that's almost six months and yeah June six Yeah,
and I think having about I think having the back holidays as well.
I think that's just making it's making it feel like it's shorter because you know,
you kind of have a day off after the Sunday, and I guess,
you know, I think it was we had the two bank holidays back
to the back. Yeah, and for me it was even longer. I
mean it was even longer because the kids. The kids were out of school
the week. You guys went to friends, so I stayed behind, so
I got the worship on YouTube if you guys, but um, yeah,
we're having the kids home would made the weekend even longer. It just felt
weird because they wasn't in school for a couple of days, um during that
week, so I think, and then the next week we had the day
off. So it's just made the weeks go so fast. And yeah,
I didn't enjoy it at all. Well, back to normal for another couple
of weeks, although we do have another one. Yeah, in a couple
of weeks. Been spoiled that May day? What is that? It's not
sure? Actually, good question, good question that's come at to you.
No, Bermuda has the same thing on the twenty fourth. They call it
the twenty fourth of May, the independence or something? Is it my dependence?
We'll look at what I can't remember another last thing we had was the
coronation. Yeah one, right, all right, yeah, but I'm not
sure what the end of the month is. I think it's just yeah,
I think it's just another spring back holiday. I think it is that what
it's called. Yeah, whatever it's called, I'll take it, thank you
very much. Yeah, well spring, I think he's starting to i'd say
spring a sprung nearly. Yesterday was cold, Yeah, it was, it
was what happened. It's getting better. So is your week? Um?
My week was good. I I met with some friends. A friend of
mine came from Montserrat when from and had been years since I'd seen her,
and she managed to arrange for a number of us to meet up and it
was a really good night out. She'd been across the country catching up with
folks Manchester, Birmingham and just bringing some of our old school friends together.
In fact, she started a chat um and I'm normally not one for group
chap to be fair, and I was like, oh, not another one
of them. But I think the message I took away from from it was
that we really need to get together. A lot of us haven't seen each
other for years and we're sort of up the road. We've discovered, you
know, who's not sort of two or three stops away on the train,
et cetera. And we thought, you know, it takes someone to come
from all the way, um, you know, to sort of bring us
together. And I think we need to maybe do better at that. And
a lot of us, I think, are at that same place. We
don't take the time that we need to, whether it has been COVID or
whatever the case might be. But it's important to make time to see each
other because life is extremely short. In fact, that was the message she
wanted to drill home. She can't be meeting up with us over funerals every
time. There needs to be an occasion where we meet each other just because
And I think that's the message that we took away from that. We had
a really good time. So yeah, yeah, that's a long story,
but true, that's true. And as you said, actually because I went
to another funeral this week actually m so my Yeah, just a shout out
to Joshua Clark and his family. His mom sadly passed away. It's lovely
service. But again, and there's a lot of people that came, and
again it was a lot of people that you haven't seen for a really,
really long time. I mean it was a great turnout. You know,
she would have loved the service. But you know, again, so many
people that you think, oh, I haven't seen you for now because of
COVID. We're talking two three years, you know, so definitely have to
make the effort on that one. But again, like your Pejo, my
week sped past. It feels like we've got those sort of days off.
It goes quick, and I think because I'm working from home sometimes it doesn't
feel Also, not working from home, working remotely, sometimes it doesn't almost
feel like you're you are working, but you're kind of not working. That
makes sense. It's not like your usual work going into the office. And
because there was a train strike on Friday, the day that would have normally
gone his office, I didn't. So yeah, So if anybody who was
trying to get some from A to B today because I know there's another strike,
I hope your journeys weren't too traumatic. But again, the week flew
past, but you know, thankful that we're here for another sabbath. I'm
trying to think of anything else that happened. Maybe nothink exciting. I don't
think I felt tired bleft for the weekends. So you know, all good,
all good. So Joseph and Natara, how about yourselves. I had
a good week. You know, I just looked like future Thad like you
said, it's just it's just the blessing to be alive. It is true.
So yeah, so we thankful, so so we could be. She's
just trying to be there. Yeah, my week was good. I moved
out from New Bold earlier on in the week, so it's my first week
back at work for a while. So I slept more than ever. As
soon as I got home, I just fell asleep. Yeah, yeah,
it was a good week. I remember the end and I we were talking
about how we need maybe three or four days or just absolutely nothing. I'm
jealous. I mean there's something to be said about and that's probably another another
show. I think, UM talking about health and a lot more health.
But sleep is sleep is a powerful thing. We need it and I definitely
enough or whatever. I don't don't start on radio exactly exactly, UM,
so we're going to be talking about, as we said, talking about um
our trip to Paris. UM Pastor Bray was out there, UM doing a
campaign with the church in and they called okay um some of the paris um
and it was kind of a I think it became a bit of a cumbination
of lots of church coming together. Yeah, they'd invite him over. The
theme was get up and shine or left twice Abriel well done. Yeah.
Every time I spoke to somebody though, I just couldn't get it together.
So I'm just like, yeah, when you hear my clips, you'll be
like, he'll hear me say that. I don't speak French very well.
But it was on from a week April, and you know, from what
we could see what we heard, they had great turn out. It was
yeah, packs every evening. They had some great singers, some great praise
and worship teams. Um. So yeah, it was a yeah, it
was a really from what I could see from a little bit that we call
it was definitely its success um. And we'll talk a little bit about a
bit more about how much of a success it was in that respect, but
we're gonna go for a bit of music. Um. We did a lot
of this throughout the weekend, so I'm we're playing cat Franklin, I smile.
We did lots of smiles, lots of laughter, um and on a
day where actually it turned out quite sunny in the end of this afternoon.
So hopefully this will bring a bit of sunshine, So Kirk Franklin, I
smile depression. Today's there was a sunshine, nothing but clouds, and it
starck in my heart and it feels like a cold light. Today's I do
day rama losight. There was a love and the joy that you can tell
me sor right. Mostly case ain't sail from heaven. I hain't a shower
when I think I much better I'm gonna be when this is over. Even
though I have seen I sile, I do gus working so sire, even
though I beat it b what you do, I smile, come on and
smile, so I give it down show would hate to see again down.
God people yell so much when you smile, so sile. Never ding gonna
be put. But it's do for me today. Most days a lot day,
but there is no sunshine, nothing but clouds, and it stuck in
my heart and it feels like a cold night. It ain't easy, but
to days tell me where my loose lights. Whereas I love y'all dams the
love and the joy that you promised me telling me is all right. The
truth is almost even I'm power that I can't explain. Holy goes power y'all
from head like a showering him. Now know we hurt, y'all, but
you do come home even though I see us smiley guys working so I time.
Either though I beat a more skilled stile, it's down show. Would
hate to see a game down because people kill us so much that school.
Who Why can't you just smile? Whatever you're in right now? Smile you
just shi and my people says say mustand when and while you're waiting yea,
and while you're praying to look in the mirror, always remember this, amstand
when you go almost but it goes power, y'all, hang down for hardships,
difficulty doors. This is what I do. Dollar see us. But
that feels good. It's like it's all things are working. Still. I
know it's hard. Right now. We hate to see you because you're a
winner. Must you look better? Jealous? When New Orleans, Cleveland,
when Detroit must feelers Jersey? Hell, All the people say it's a must,
he said, just to want you to be happy, Then you gotta
have something that had a there. I want you to have Detroit Kirk Franklin.
I smile. I love that song. Actually um used to be my
theme song for another show in another time, another place. Yeah, we
won't go into that just yet. I know, I know, I know.
Back to talking point on Adventist Radio London and just to let you know
that you can get involved, actually just saying that you're being blessed you're listening.
It's a studio at Adventist Radio Dot London or Texas on eight triple to
eight Hope Space. And then your message and the shout out to the church
in lor Um. Sorry, I'm not gonna get shout out to the church
in France. I did send a message to let them know that we were
going to be sharing our experience and our interviews with them, so if they
have a moment to log in, so if they are there, and I
just want to say good afternoon to them, and yeah, possibly they can
shout us up as well. It was really good to be with them in
France. Right. So, Josephine, I'm gonna put you on the spot.
We're talking about our experience traveling to France. What we sort of gathered
from the program. Thank you to Pastorway for inviting us. Really had a
good time and we're looking forward to the next trip. Just so you know.
But tell me a little bit about your experience you had you been to
France before, Is this your first time, and how did you sort of
feel going along as part of the ministry team. Yeah, I've been to
France before, but when I was quite young, so it felt different going
as an adult. Okay, But one thing, I it's about the church
and how it's working, guys. I found everyone was very diligent in the
role they played. So whoever it was from singing, like leading worship out
or organization or even like taking us around to the translation during race sermons.
I just found everyone like took it like as an act of worship, like
took it very seriously. Because sometimes you can go to places and it'd be
like either it's it's performative and everyone just wants to look the best for looking
the best sake, or it's very like chore like and everyone just wants to
get over and done with as quickly as possible. But there's definitely a different
dynamic when everyone just takes on their role as an act of worship and I
mentioned it the score about I can't remember her name, the translator's name for
Karen, Karen Lod. Yeah, yeah, I just thought I've never seen
a translator like her. I just watched to put everything in it. It
was like it was her own terms. Yeah exactly. So it didn't it
didn't stunt like what was being shared. It just allowed everything to run smoothly.
Um. And then I was so appreciated the anointing service. Um.
I noticed something that a lot of Adventists are a bit uncertain when it comes
to anointing with oil. Um, but I think it was made clear.
You know, the power is not in the object or the oil itself,
but it's in Christ. It's just um, like I guess symbolism for it
what Christ is doing. And we saw so many mantain moves. You're gonna
come up to an interview soon that you guys did. Where he Um,
the leader of the choir, was saying, you know, he was healed
after he Um got an annointed that day after the anointing service, so that
day his voice was so much better by then. And that's just one of
many testimony that comes out of just letting God and work in the moment,
allowing the Holy Spirit to work. So yeah, it was beautiful to see.
Yeah it was. And in fact, I remember Pastor Ray speaking about
demonic forces and all that, and there was so much of that that was
broken and yokes that were broken amongst that service. So you know what,
we've just got to let God do his thing, not put boundaries, not
put our own take on it, but just let God move and let him
work. And as you said, it's biblical that we use anointing oil,
and Pastor was clear and expressing that it's biblical. It's not the oil,
but but it's um Christ and the Spirit moving, allowing the Spirit, and
well, you know, and as you said, the amount of people that
kind of embrace that as well and came forwards, it's really powerful to watch.
Yes, other young people as well. You know, I don't realize
this was a youth campaign, um and actually see how many young people were
moved, Yeah, that way, and people didn't want to be missed.
There were people, you know, pushing past, pushing through to make sure
that they got the anointing. And you know, you don't often see that.
Sometimes we become complacent because we you know, we're adventures for so long,
we've done it one way or the other for so long that we don't
realize. And there was a hunger there that was just so apparent on it
and it was good to see. It was good to see. Thank you,
Josephine. Um. So are you saying that you've been to Paris before?
We want to talk about I mean it was, it was ministry was,
but it was also fun. And we went on a tour very early
on. And were you impressed with what you saw of Paris or or what
I appreciated it for what it was in Paris? Yeah, do you know
what to be fun? I'm not really a city city person like that,
so um, but I appreciate. I think next time, for sure,
definitely go and see the Eiffel Tower at nighttime. Yes, I don't know
if there's any South londonness that listening. But in Crystal Palace we've got a
little tower that we say is the Eiffel Tower of London. So I don't
know if maybe I have took it for granted similarity, I'm not sure.
Yeah, yeah, Paris, Um, the Eiffel Tower at night is it's
different, it's a different. Um it's different the Crystal Palace. Yeah,
different for sure, for sure. And I think we said that we'll always
got well, we want to go back and maybe taking more of it and
do a bit more because it was kind of a whistle stop before they stood
me coming back again place. Yeah, there is lovely aflutely thank you guys
are wonderful people. Oh goodness. And you did some of the programs from
there as well. I mean we shared a room and I know when you
sort of kind of cornered off to do the Breakfast Show, what was the
experience doing it from from Paris? It actually worked out really nicely. I
don't know, my network works better in France than it doesn't. You've redeemed
yourself. I've got a big qualm with three and how they operate. But
this guy's gonna get inach other. Well, No, it worked out well.
I don't know. There's something about being in a different country. Um,
It's like the air's different, the temperature was better at the time.
Um, so yeah, I just felt a bit more peaceful, felt the
love in the air. Did you get a lot of the French um listeners
tuning in? Did they sort of at some point even so now they are
tuning into the great they're speaking. They type in French, so I have
to hand it over to Ray to pronounce it, but I cannot really good
for the life of me. Yea, that's good and actually, Josephine,
I mean. One of the things one that's also a little bit more about
us later is the fact that actually we don't necessarily speak the language. And
I was quite surprised in some ways that a lot of people, I'm sure
they speak English, but they didn't really speak English. Um. And I
think sometimes as pretty English people, we go where you travel around the world
and we expect people to speak English, like yeah, and over there,
and when I gather they're very everybody's very proud of other language, and they
they speak French languish. I didn't mind that not being necessarily known the language
in that respect. Um, it was a it was a pickle. But
I found like often when you speak another language sometimes there's like a level of
like nerves if it doesn't sound fluid. But a lot of them did speak
it, okay. I just had like picked them up and be like,
no, your your English is like thousand times better than my French. We
were able to hold combo. Also, what worked really well was that the
songs, even though they were spoke song in French, a lot of the
songs I was familiar with, so there was enough room in during worship for
it not to be impacted because I would sing along in English and that worked
out okay. Actually, so that was nice. And I shout out to
all the translators, all the people who sort of spoke English and our behalf
and tried to let us know what was going on. Yeah, that helped
as well. Yeah, and I didn't find that actually necessarily a problem because
you initially you might say, okay, that might be quite off putting because
you're trying to you're trying to concentrate on several things. It's like real multitasking
if the language world is aware. But actually it was fine. Yeah,
I really enjoyed it. And I mean I've said it before and i'd say
it again. I'm moving to France. That's that's it. That's it.
I'm gone. So we might be talking part from party. Yes, yes,
the conversation in any language, that's it. Um, thank you,
Josephine. I'm gonna come across to Tara, who was also along your roommate
actually Um and was part of the trip and Tara as you ministered in the
song or at the event. What was your take on being part of the
program. What was your take on the worship service itself? Well, the
worship service itself was really enjoyable. I was able to, like Josephine said,
um, listen to the songs and connect with the songs because I knew
them in the English obviously some of the songs, and they started off in
French and end some in English, or started in English and French. So
I kind of like that, so it kind of gave me an idea where
it was going. Um. I liked that I was able to connect with
one of the worship leaders. I can't remember her name right now, but
she was really kind and she tried to speak English to me, and as
I was speaking to her, She's like, you're speaking too fast, so
I had to actually slope myself down, you know, to her to understand
me. And you know, so in either way she spoke English and she
spoke very very slowly. But the way her spirit was and the way you
were connected in that way, I really liked that because even now she messaged
me and stuff like that to stay hi, And I just I just liked
the connection that I was able to have and how kind of people was.
They were so willing to just you know, talk to us, show us
around, and you know all of those things. Some people are not that
way, and some people look at you different when you speak different than them,
or you know, just anything like that. And I just like the
fact that they were so open to that. Yeah, they were very welcome,
very well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very good. Um,
Patrow, I'm gonna loop you in here because wait, you gotta ask what
did think about friends? Oh, I'm coming back to that. But I
wanted to know because Tara and then you sort of made a little bit of
a sacrifice and coming You've left the kids behind, and I know you enjoyed
the break kinda. I mean, when a mother leaves, when the mother
leaves their child, it's always you know, you leave a little bit of
a heart behind. Um. But but she did anyway, and we were
happy to have her. We enjoyed having her, and we didn't miss you
at all, petro Um. But I wanted to know what what what the
atmosphere was from your end in terms of being there with the kids taking that
role while Tara was out doing ministry and did you connect with the program from
from where you were over YouTube? Uh? Yeah, well I actually,
well I was gonna go and then I said, you know what, Tara
has been with the kids for so long because she's there mom, And I
was like, oh, this give her a chance to actually get away and
just visit a different country, um by himself, well with a few ladies.
So my thought Postles was like, you know, it's the old woman
anyway, so I'll be out of place. So I was like, you
know what, not that i'll be out of place, but you know what
I mean, Like, you know, I know the room. You know,
I don't want to share a room past the Patrick. You know,
not that I don't like him, I just don't want to share room.
So you know, so I was like, you probably here about this.
Somebody's gonna tell him, but he'll say the same thing game to you.
He'll say the same thing. But you know, um, I just thought
it'd be good because I was thinking about this as talking point. Family.
We're a family, you know, we all see each other all the time.
You met my wife on zoom, but you never really met her in
person. So I just felt would be good for you guys to connect with
the wife and get to know him and she get to know you because I'm
always talking to you guys, but always every week we talk, you know
and stuff. So I just wanted to, I like to include my wife
in my business, if that makes sense. So I was like a way
for me to include my wife into the into the family so that she can
you know, better understand you know, us as a as a group,
you know, not just me, but the whole group. You know,
the dynamic of the group. It was. But connecting do YouTube, it
was cool. Um, just like she said, like Thomas said, Um,
I could follow. But I found myself maybe it was like a lag,
but I found myself like singing, like singing in my head the song
that they were singing. But I was noticing that even though they're playing the
beat, because they're singing in French. It was kind of throwing me off.
So like you know, if they say blood and I say blood,
then you know in Christ, like I was a little behind or throw me
off because I'm hearing them sing French. But I mean I'm still able to
connect because I'm like you said that the lady that did them interpretation for pastor
rest. Yeah. She she was great because like if he if he said
it with if he said it a certain way, she said it the exact
same way in French. She didn't like and I'm saying that's all. That's
that's the best part, because you know, he'll you know, he likes
a shout, so he'd be like and she would say raw too, so
you know, it kind of put with what he was saying. You know,
like it just made a difference because you don't want him to have be
a zuber. And then she's just like, yeah, flat or flat because
it's away from what he's saying. And then they had and then I found
it. They had a really good chemistry because like even though you can understand
French, sometimes she'll say thing He's like that that's not what I said.
She'd be like, what okay, that she'd trying to remember because she can't
remember because to say the French. At that moment, she was trying to
figure out how to say it, so she should say the different way.
He's like, that's not what I said it and looking at okay, fine,
So then she'll sit there trying to figure out how to say it in
French, and then she'll say it in French. So I thought they had
a really good mystry throughout the whole program, which made, you know,
made people laugh and it just kind of, you know, kind of put
a little bit of laughter in the in the seriousness of what he was trying
to do. What he was doing. Um, And like, like you
said, the singing was good. I listened to the concert even I couldn't
understand where they were saying. But I didn't listen to the concert. Um,
but it was it was it was like you said, it was just
great because you the beat were just letting you to know, Okay, they're
singing rich a small word or the singing Jonathan Nelson or that singing you know,
you know what. Yeah. And then when they played for Tara,
they had just practiced the day before, and I thought they really didn't I
really thought they did a good job. But see, but then it was
a different job. Well you never practice on side, Okay, Well they
just said that they'll play right. But see, it was still a little
bit of a difference because when Tara was singing um, I think she told
him to go up, but he didn't understand it, so he didn't go
up and he stayed, which is fine. You know that. I was
like, let's try this again, and he still because he couldn't understand he
was playing, you know. So I thought that was funny, but I
you know, it was it was just great because it was it was like
you said, even though I wasn't there, I could feel the love.
I could feel like you said, like Josephix said, I could feel how
everything had its place. Everything was like boom, you know, everything was
like in a timely manner. And they all was like they you see that
they was very um spiritual in a sense of they really wanted to minister.
Yeah. Yeah, you know everybody was trying to minister. It wasn't about
them. Yeah, praise God. Yeah that was clear. I mean God
requires excellence and you saw that and everything that they did and everything they tried
to accomplish. Yeah, and it was really really effective. Um, so
we thank God for that. So, Tara, you didn't feel like you
left a bit of your heart behind. Petrol seems to think that this was
all easy for you. You know, you all the time. I love
Yeah, I don't like being away from my children anyway, you know what
I mean. I love getting around my kids and and me. I always
I have separation anxiety, so I know they had a little bit of that
themselves. And um, but I wanted the kids to connect with their father
because I'm always here, I'm always around his own I do not connect in
a way, you know what I'm saying, Ladies connecting a way of talking
to him because they come and just speak to me about anything, you know
what I'm saying. And we just got that that type of relationship, not
saying they don't have that with him. But it's different with mommy than it
is with daddy, you know what I mean. You're not going to be
the same with parents, you know what, You're there most of the time.
Yeah, so I kind of wanted that. Um but it same like
it went well and um but I talked to the kids while I was away,
let them know Mommy is okay, you know, and everything like that.
But I think the next trip I going, I do want to take
my children with me if possible mcause trip. Okay, the next trip is
me and Peter, he said. The kids plenty of trips, Oh my
goodness, social work because you could be hard head, you know, but
this is why I am different, because like she said, we're different.
I'm though, I'm more of there, like the straightforward boom with tars,
more like the smoothed over you know all sweetie, it's okay, and I'm
just like Noah. So Tara, Um, what was what was Paris like
for you? Was that your first time? What? It was my first
time? And I enjoyed traveling there with Josephine. Um. I I had
a bit of anxiety traveling on the train and stuff like that because I've never
really just done before, you know, coming from America. You had a
car and you traveled in your car, and I never just did the train
thing. So once I once I you know, got to who I need
to be, and you know, just learning and paying attention made me focus
more what you did. I think I needed the experience and once I was
able to, you know, get there, and it just it was good
to have a travel buddy um with you that you know, help calm you
down while you was going through the whole process of getting there to France.
But it was good. Yeah, Josephine was your room. We we we
kind of shared a joint room. Yeah. Yeah, um, but it
was really it was really good to kind of have a girl's trip, which
is what it kind of ended up. I didn't enjoy coming, which you
guys. I really feel like I know you guys on a different level than
I did before, which I really love that. I you know, it
was comfortable talking to you guys. It was no awkwardness, which I love.
And I was just able to be myself. I was just you know,
and it's good to be able to be yourself when you're around people.
You don't think, you don't have to pretend to enjoy yourself. So that
really was good. And so yeah, I enjoyed there and singing there as
well, me singing and standing up there singing, and the way people was
responding to me singing, I was like, wow, Like the Holy Spirit
was definitely in the place, you know, And I was emotional through some
of the service, watching the fifteen souls you know, give themselves to Jesus
and wanted to get baptized. You know. That was amazing. You know,
it's just it's just good to see that people love Jesus and they want
Jesus in their lives. And I just loved the whole aroma of the place.
It was just really good. And we just want to highlight that you
you sang in English, but the whole chat sort of connected with you,
and they knew the song and it was just it was just and yeah,
and I think because of who you are and they knew the song. I
wanted to sing something that I haven't been Prince a lot give me a song
this thing, and he gave me that song, and I wanted to sing
something that they made know relate to And when I sing because of who you
are, it just felt so good. You know. I wanted to do
more and I'm hoping the opportunity will come again, but I'm just yeah,
I'm sure. Well, I mean I saw them sort of gravitate to you
after you sang, and everyone wanted to meet you and greet you. And
I'm like, whoa, that's that's that's that's all right girl. Yeah.
A lot of the people that's in the music department came up to me in
one of my Instagram and you know, one of the and they doing,
they following, they sim me messages. They very active people, you know,
so I really like that. Man. Well, I was gonna bring
us into so Tara you sang because of who you are. We're gonna play
that now. Okay. Yeah, it's a great song. It's one of
my favorite songs. Whoever has done this and yeah it speaks to him.
It's a great choice and a great song that you that you sung. Um,
so we've got Vicky because of who you are. When we come back,
we will take a few of our recorded interviews. Um, okay,
present those some of as I said, some of the I'll come to parts
in France are listening in Paris and we spoke to them at when we were
there, and we'll be presenting some of those interviews when we get back.
I sha along, fank you jeess, thank you Lord. I love you
Lord, because you are a gift, your glory because of fool. You
are a gift you praise. Because of fool you are. I will leave
my eyes. I'm saying, Lord, I worshippl because of fool you are.
The Lord. I worshiping because of who you are. Because you are,
I give you Lord, because of fool you are again you brain,
because of fool you are, I will my eyes insane the Lord. I
worshiping because of who you are. The Lord, I worshiping because of fool
you are. You see jehol p Jehol and Niecy like you. You're my
prince of peace. And I watched just become shust become because you are lucking
your glory because of fool you are. I give you prayer because of fool
you are. I will live my voice and say, Lord, I worshiping
because of food you are all I worshiping because of fool you are. You
see your home, my provider's your home, and thee sing to read your
horsha. You're my prince a piece of yesh mong and I rushhapper should be
because of who you are. An amazing song and Tara's versions of that was
was great too. You can see them on YouTube. You need to go
to the Adventist Church Adventist Lawn Adventiste l O G N E S. They
have a their YouTube channel there and the services are there. It's get up
and Shine left TWI April, so definitely do check them out again throughout that
week from what we can see even that sort of short weekend we were there,
the music was great. They had a selection of different praise and worship
leaders, different praise teams very different styles as well, which was really really
good to see a real mixture. So definitely was blessed from a music perspective,
and definitely kind of got you into spirit of worship, which I really
which I really enjoyed, and which is the day that actually was a prayer
day. They just really focused on prayer. Some day they did the anointing
I remember now I can't even remember, but yeah, I really, Yeah,
it was a real blessing from that one. So as we've spoke a
little bit about Joseph and Tire's experiences, we're not going to go Zenia and
I kind of took a bit of time to go around and speak to some
people. It was a little bit of a challenge because, as we said,
language, sadly, I really wish I had paid more attention at school
when I was learning French, although I realized I spoke a lot more but
um and sometimes people over there didn't necessary think their English was so great,
although as Josephine said earlier, their Inji was probably better than our French.
Maybe. So we did managed to speak to some of the young people around.
So we're going to play some of the interviews that we did various different
lengths vary people that we spoke to. So yeah, the one I'm about
to play is with Naomi, Danielle, Louise and Francois. Francois was very
instrumental in getting us from point A to point B. And I'm saying good
afternoon, good evening to you. I'm sure he is listening, and yeah,
he was just helping me more so to interpret, but I sort of
looked him into the conversation. It's seventeen minutes long, but and it's an
unedited version of M so we'll see how we go. But this is the
interview that we've had Radio London that we're broadcasting from France and speaking to some
of the young people who have been involved in the program or the series or
evangelistic meeting Get A Much Shine. I've got four wonderful young people with me
and we're going to talk about how it's been and how it's culminated in about
sixteen souls been baptized this afternoon. Welcome to Adventist Ready in London. Guys,
thank you. Oh I'm the foul right now, only I'm going to
start with you. Sorry, As I explained, I just want to find
out a little bit about you, and I want you to tell me how
you've come to Adventist. I'm sorry to get a shine and what you think
of the program? Is that? Okay, it's okay, understand, yes,
yes, yes, well, yes, okay. So Nami tell me
first of all, telling me, if you don't mind, tell me how
old you are or the age range, and then tell me a listen a
bit more about you. So I maybe are you twining you won the years
old? Where you could you get the basket? She knows the program because
she's okay, do you normally come to programs like this? Or putting on
the spot, that's what I um? Do you normally come to programs like
this? Or were you encouraged by friends? Are you recollared to judge what
it is? But as as ristoob she she comes tributary to judge is a
musical program and she invited some friends to the program. Oh wonderful. Do
you know any of the people who got baptized today? Yes? Let me,
yes, she knows, Oh wonderful, good, good, Right,
So tell me how did you think the program went this week? How did
you find it? But saw it was really interesting. Yeah, okay.
Did you enjoy pastoray preaching? Was it different to what you're used to application?
Yes, well you look she already knows that. And it was year
ago, years ago. Okay, so he has come to France, yes,
yes, so is that why he was invited back. Did you like
the program last time? Yes? Okay, so she liked the program,
so she's uh, she was here. I'm glad to see him come back
for this program. Okay, I'm gonna come back to you, but I
want you to tell me when I come back, what was your favorite night,
what was your your what you took away from from the week. I'm
gonna come back to you, and I'm gonna go on to Louis first.
Okay, twelve. I shouldn't want to put me up all you. Yes,
okay, Louise, tell me now a little bit about you. Looking
um at how you came to be part of of this event's understand h uh.
She she's twenty, she remembered. She's a member of the church.
She say what she says. She's she's a member of the Direction of the
Youth direction and and she's responsible of the Drens, the children's children's apartment.
Okay, because I as I was coming downstairs with Frans one who will come
on shortly, I saw you start with and I remember or recognize that when
the thanks were being given today that you were one of the people in the
front. Because she don't make your physical for the living most details subdued.
Okay, she's she's she's packed off the direction. But in this program she's
expensible of the very people. I guess that's it. You were in charge
of the welcoming a very good job. I feel welcome and thank you.
Okay, gives you someone thank you? Right, so you've you've made me.
Now ask this question. How long have you been in charge of the
children's department and how old are the children that needs take care of? Lets
you don't know it's it's been one year. And how do you find you?
Um? What? What? Because I'm trying to understand if the children
in France are the saying as children they do they give you any trouble?
What? What kind of what kind of things do you do? What kind
of things do they want to know about God? Because you know every slid
listen to you, don't ask you some God originally make is really they are
obedient. Oh good, good, so they love like a angela. The
lady who is also a part of adventisting loan. She's in charge of the
children ministries in London as well, so she may be good to talk talk
an exchange. Um understand, yes, So tell me then, what did
you think of the program, especially that you were part of, um the
organization and the execution of the program. What did you think? Okay,
yes, yes? And did you did you know Pastor Ray as well?
Did you hear him or see him? Okay, what do you say because
I say something, m What did you think about him and and his his
way of preaching? Because that's good preaching. Capt right, two words,
UM, wonderful. I'm glad because I realized that, um, this was
gained towards our young people, and he has a love for the young people
and it comes across in his in his preaching. So you know, I'm
really really glad that that you thought that it was good. And hopefully he
can come back because I want, and I know he wants as well,
that it keeps going, you know, not for it to die now that
he's not gonna not here. Okay, yeah, yeah, so I would
I know he would want it to get stronger, and the youth ministry and
what he started in to continue. Yeah. Um, what I then want
to ask is how would you want to see it continue? How what has
come out of this week that you'd want to see continues to continue? Okay?
Us people? What there's a lot of a lot more young people here
now, y all right, I'm gonna pause that. Alilian come back to
you know me and ask you what did you take away? Whether it's from
a night or from the experience? What did you what did you take your
favorite night, your favorite message? I don't misty into us when on this
day? When itesday? Night? Okay, okay? Well what was what
was it? If you don't even remember the night? What? What?
What do you remember about? It was a testimony of the pastor or pastor
yes okay, okay, calling of when you're in prison? Yeah it was
in prison, okay okay. And he talked about how he and when how
God has him into to go out of the yea okay, all right,
a gentleman, I'm going to turn to you. Um. They've been my
my, my very good interpreters, but I think I need to bring you
into the conversation as well, Um, and you can tell me a little
bit about yourself and what you took away from UM the program. I'm not
going to take you any much longer because I can hear that's a very good
concert is on its way upstairs. So I'm gonna let you go, But
tell me Um first, Danielle, what you felt about the overall program and
atmosphere. I felt really good. And for me, it's not the way
of preaching off Bob. Sorry, I I don't how can certain friends see
if you can you see the parent Leon you're doing trying to I'm trying to
get Lemon. You're doing what we are. We are not used to be
like that. His way of creating. Yeah, because it's exciting. It
captivates to young people. Yeah, it's captivated. And he trying to joke
to him prem Okay, okay, what what was the one message that stays
with you towards the message of us? Well, he was talking about the
close of you have to wear to be invincible. You want to shout me,
I feel like I might not get you one listen. I don't want
to listen. He was talking about the close you have to be to be
invincible and to get away from from evil, from the devil, and he
talked about my favorite, my favorite came to okay okay, and I feel
really in the message because he was talking about and then oh yes that basketball
player one of the favorite. Wow, he was doing some Okay. It's
an example the way I led Alan has place, please, and he turned
that that event to our our daily lives and he's saying that he Alan has
and is like in the life is like Jesus for us because if we put
Jesus on the playground of our lives, it will be you will be your
Daniel you know some Yeah, every time, thank you know I understood that
life appreciating that as well. Thanks for you have anything to add before?
I like um for you guys. Well it was the preach about about Samson
Sam. I mean like the speech um um. I really enjoyed two um.
Then the device the you he gives he gives us uh young people.
Um. I enjoyed the vibe like his energy like very very you can feel
his um his love for for young people like like you you say. And
also also I like um the fact he talked about his life, about his
life. Yeah, his testimony. You you can see um as he had
some trouble, but God has been there for for you. I think that
that helped him to connect to the young people, connecting people for me.
I don't want anybody to preach at me. I want people to talk to
me about where they've been through the journey here. Yes, lovely, well,
I know you get to tired, I'm sure very much. I remember,
and even when he's told you already, but I'm not going to happen
to Spadio London, especially if you want to get your English better. And
I'll let you know via email when we're going to be hearing these So right,
that was it. Again, thank you to the young people who took
the time out to speak to me. I mean midway to the interview,
she sort of your own and I know they were tired. I mean it
been along, it went a long couple of days, I'm sure, especially
being part of the organizing team. And I was really grateful. It was
a good it was a good chat, a good time and will definitely stay
connected to them. And she was mentioning about the children. Was really interesting
because I actually at one point I had a conversation with three children who were
helping clearing up. I kind of sort of said hello and like a little
bit of French, I said, what's yours, Saba, And then of
course they thought, oh, she can speak French and started labling up,
and I was like, ah, hold on a second. However, with
the help of Google Translate, I was able to kind of have a bit
of a conversation with them. I can't remember their names actually, but they
were like eleven, ten, eleven and twelve. But I kind of said,
you know, arts, had they've been coming to the meetings and said
yes, And I asked them what they took from the week and what they'd
learned, and bless them, they were typing it into my phone in Google
Translate, and they basically said, you know, they learned that you have
to believe in God, who is a strong God. They learned that God
can always do miracles and it's support to believe in him with a good time
times as well as the bad times. You know. So again, as
much as I don't speak their language, let's speak my language, we were
still able to kind of converse, have a conversation, and you know,
I was able to get something from them as well, which was really lovely.
Um, so I'm want to go now on to a couple of people
that I spoke to as well. Um, again, we were kind of
trying to poor people. This was a young lady called I don't even know
how I ends up speaking to her, I think, I just I don't
know how I did. Anyway, we'll hear. Her name was Selena.
Um, so let's hear what she had to say about the program. I'm
good, I'm good. What's your name? And tell me about you've been
here this week? Yes, I've been like Wednesday, entity emotional like there
was a power to the messages, to the worship, to the way of
his testimony, and there was so much little things that made me like cry.
And I was so happy to be here with my brothers and my father,
and I wish I could bring more people to this event. Okay,
so you had a really good week for what you've heard, How will you
get up and shine? I would get up and shine through sharing what I
have been tarted with here. And I would love to to the people to
know how much power and race we have here. Yeah, wonderful, Thank
you so much for and hopefully we'll Reinpariss again. We can week you again.
Thank you Selda, thank you Shine. Hi. So what's your name?
Hi? I'm weekends weekinds. And where are you from? I'm going
from Haiti, Haiti? Okay? How long have you lived in Paris?
In boys for years? For years? And what do you do? Um,
I'm in philosophy. I'm learning philosophy. So I'm meeking. I'm making
pH in philosophy PhD. And what do you hope to do after that?
After that? I would be a teacher. And then now I mean I
can be on analyst of the publicity. And so okay, you stay in
France. So would you like to travel? M I don't know exactly.
Maybe I will leave, maybe I will say. Okay, all right,
So how did you hear about this program? Get up and shine? Okay?
This program is in my church, so the young people as ask the
church to do it in that way. This is in that way. I
know the program. Okay? And did you come every night? Yeah?
I come every night and I'm so happy to come in nice. And I
was telling me about the program. What did you how did you find it?
I will I can explain the program because it's it's too heavy to understand
if you want to say ivy because it's something it's something that I can explain.
I don't have word to explain that. But it was a good experience,
a good experience, positive experience, positive experience, experience specifically specifically for
young people. Yeah, what was it different from what you've been to before?
Was it different or the same or um the difference the pastor with very
very spirit by Jesus. Okay. So what will you take away from this
week? From I know I will have one in your life and new life?
Okay. So the theme was lever twie real gets up and shine.
As you can see, my friend is not good. How will you get
up and shine? So get up in shine means wake up, Yeah,
wake up and follow Jesus okay, wake up and pray okay, wake up
and advise people okay, okay. So what advice would you give to anybody
listening? What advice would you give to our listeners for people who are listening
to Confluence? I hope that I hope they will put the advice in your
life okay, okay. In order to preach people okay, and to reach
other people okay. To change the world, we need to change the world.
Okay. So what is what is church like here in France? In
for some what can I say? They are good? But we need to
we need to do more program. You need to be more What can I
say? The more bright, more shine okay, okay, okay, and
be out there in your communities and meeting more people. Yeah, meet more
people. Yes, Um, back to the use before pass away. Um,
there was a little bit slow. Okay, I'll take after that.
They will more, they will, They haven't. I don't know what to
say that they are while to in the bold, in the length to to
explain people, so there'll be more eager to go out to shine more,
to be more on fire maybe yeah. Okay, So it's been a good
week for you. It's a very very good week for me, all right.
I passed all the week by praying a pre pre p and then so
I see, I see what prey can do, can do. And obviously
you witnessed thirteen people get baptized today, which is fantastic. Um. So
and how did that make you feel? Um? I feel better. I
was witness right now I feel powering my life. Okay. So I advise
any people too to chi the life with God cool. And you spent a
day with the Reggio London crew. So you took us sight seeing, it's
what it was a pleasure for me. Yes, it was good. But
this program to participate with the people will come from London. Yeah. It
took us around. We went on lots of trains okay, and we went
to see some of the sites. Yeah. The Eiffel Tower easy, lazy,
the museum, the the Parliament okay, yes, not too down church
from Back to the Years yes, which was sadly destroyed by a fire.
Yeah, and the Louver yes. So thank you for taking us around that
day. That was really very humpy. I've got this program cool. Well,
thank you so much for your time. It's been wonderful talking to you,
and thank you for taking a time out to support the program and for
taking your time out to support us as well. Thank you very much.
Thank you. As we were saying, it's that we were. The hospitality
was wonderful. It was so lovely to kind of, you know, have
people who you know, obviously if we don't speak the language, but they
were there to kind of step in for us. And Rickins was lovely to
take us out like we did. We did a very scenic tour as it
were lots of trains. We got to kind of, you know, see
things in a different way, and it was a bit of a whistle stop
tour. But he took out a day which was really lovely and couldn't have
been more helpful. So shout out to you, rickins Um, and next
time we're over there, would definitely have to kind of link up again.
Um, just gonna play a really little clip as well. As I was
saying throughout the week, there was loads of great music. I don't know
why. I was kind of filming and recording some bits as well, So
I'm going to play a little clip from one of the groups. I don't
remember their names actually, Um, but I think this is this is the
air that I breathe. As we were saying before, sometimes you would hear
the tune and for me, I've really struggled to then think I know that
song. What are the worlds of English? Like, suddenly I guess I
was in France, so I became a French person because that's all I was
thinking about English, but I didn't know the English words. So We're going
to play a little bit of this just to sort of here just some of
the yes. Some of the musicians will bring us back on that almost sits
in sea, sit see an please award shoe, shoe to toss yes to
the air that I breathe. Then at the end it's saying no, that
I'm desperate for you, I really want you, which brings us really lovely
into when we think about UM, this campaign and the combination of it.
We got to witness, Okay, we were quibbling about the number. I
think it was fifteen or maybe sixteen. Fifteen or sixteen UM got baptized on
that day. It was really amazing to see that UM and seven of more
people came up for kind of the appeals as well, after us as well,
but to sort of seem those young people dedicate, give their lives and
make that commitment to God after a week like this and it was, you
know, powerful week. We've heard so many sort of stories about that from
various people, but yeah, that's it was just amazing. So we're gonna
hear from one of the young ladies who got baptized. I got fifteen to
speak to her UM. So this was Louisa. This is from Bill Smith,
and she was baptized today. Congratulations. So just tell me a little
bit about yourself. So my name is Louisa. I have twenties old and
I choose to bath day get baize just bad days um Wednesday, Wednesday.
So have you been Were you coming all week to the meetings? No?
I heard about the meeting on social media and I love the Bridge of of
Busta. Yeah. Absolutely, okay, So had you so, Louisa,
have you been coming all week to the guests up and Shine program? No?
I heard about the program on Tuesday and then I choose to come on
Wednesday, and then I love the bridge and that's really spurned me. So
I choose the bout get baptized. Okay. Is that something you'd considered before
as you thought about it before? Yeah, a lot of time, but
I don't hear the call, and this time I heard it. So that's
why I get up and I decided to shine. And what made the difference
for you this week? So you said that you'd like to hear Pastor Way
preaching. What was different about it's time? It's like he can understand young
people because some of ACA or people not really understand us. Sometime the judges
and in his fridge. He said that we don't have to be perfect to
get baptized, and that's why I choose it, because I need to be
with Jesus and then follow him and um, try to be perfect. Okay,
and how do you got back ties today? How do you feel today?
I feel really great, fantastic, I feel white, I feel shiny.
So the thing this week was get up and shine. Um leve April
left left Abriel. See my friend is not that good? Um, So
for you, how will you get up and shine? Now? Going forward?
Get up and shine. I really want to talk about the church to
people. I really want to be more confident with Jesus, learn more about
about the Bible, and then preach for some people. Okay. So if
you hadn't eat any advice to give to other young people, what would you
tell them? It's not today to get up for Jesus. He loves you
and always even then you go down, you can just wait to you and
don't turn your back to Jesus. He's amazing toast. Thanks well, thank
you, Louisa. Congratulations again and all the best of your walk with the
Lord. He's got you just stay close to him. So thank you,
very much. Thank you, You're welcome. She was so lovely and you
know, somebody who was just so excited. I love when she sort of
said, you know, she felt white, shiny and new. It's just
amazing. And you know, that was just kind of you know, one
person, and I know, seeing the faces and the faces of families and
friends around them just so excited. Um, so it was. It was
really lovely, really, so it was really love to see that and to
witness that. I was even having a lot of in preparation for today going
back some of the YouTube videos and was kind of watching a few bits sin
thinking wow, yeah, I remember I was sitting next to Pastor Cary and
at one point we had to break out the partissue. Yes, you know,
it was just so emotional to witness to see the emotion on everyone's faces
as well. Moms were crying over their daughters, sisters were crying over their
siblings. It was just full of energy and the spirit was moving to the
point, as you said, there was an alter call after the baptism,
and so many souls wanted to be some of the young kids. I think
we caught up in the moment as well, and they were all standing around
the pool and the makeshift pool that was just a blow up pool in the
middle of that. I mean, it was just it was just perfect.
It ended perfectly, and I know, you know, Heaven celebrated over one
moreover how many they were, But it was just such a powerful experience.
And I'm wondering if I Josephee or Tyro would want to sort of chime in
on that and what they sort of felt on that. On that evening during
the occasion, as we watched several souls dip and come up with you,
I really enjoyed watching the people getting baptized and giving ourselves over to Jesus.
And I think I shared a to tear when the young boy got into the
water, because most times you don't see young people giving themselves to Jesus Christ.
And I think that's so important for us to teach our children about Jesus.
God give us responsibility as parents to um, you know, teach our
children about Him. And you know how many children can be lost if they
not taught about him. And it was just so good to see not just
young but old as well. Yes, And I like Pastor Rate said it
time and time again, you know, it's it's coming as you are.
I mean, the sort of Bible studies will come, the change will come,
all of that will happen over time. But it is making that decision
there and then because we don't know what tomorrow holes. Yeah, and it's
making that decision there and then as young as they are to give their lives
to down and we have to honor that if the pandemic was to teach us
anything that you could just you know, tomorrow is not promised exactly and do
you never know what's around the corner, because that was something we would never
have foreseen as it were. So yeah, yeah, powerful Josephine, do
you have anything to add to that? What was it for you? Like
for you? I think she's muted Josephine there and she was on the road
driving, um, so maybe she's saw a blast connection. Sorry, yes,
I can loud and clear. One. Two. I was saying that,
I was saying, jumping on your point that I did that they truly
came as they were. Yes, we saw people from different backgrounds, different
genders, um, different ages, different races, different styles, fashion styles,
whatever it was they ever gave their life over to him or pledged to
give their life over to him, and I thought it was really beautiful to
see. But because sometimes we really do get caught up in we have to
have done this six week, six months of studying, or we have to
be a certain age. But I wish I could remember the age of the
youngest person that decided to give their life price. But it was like a
primary school kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And it just
reflects you know, um, you know, sometimes we hear that as a
teacher, I hear that their parents are a bit nervous to let their children
get back tied, um, because they think they're too young. But young
people know what they're doing, they know what they're talking about. They just
soak up information so quickly, and so if they want to soak up the
word of God, you just there's nothing, Um what is there to lose
from getting baptized? Right, it's nothing else before they came to chat Man
and from that yeah yeah yeah. And I am now thinking this is an
idea for another show. I mean, we really have to delve into this
because it's such a debatable topic. Um, and you know, not every
preacher feels that way, and you know, not every church feel that feels
that way. But um, I think we're all here in agreement that it
is when the spirit moves, you know, we just have to follow,
you have to capture that moment. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely, I
think that'd be a good thing. Because our children were baptized young and yeah
he had just recently as well, isn't it, And then had the young
man that was baptized, he was young in the church. And I just
think that you know that that or they need to be a certain ages is
just something that is a tradition that we need to not really use or break
as saying yeah, yeah, and it's it's a journey for all of us,
whether we're nine then or you know, forty nine fifty nine, you
know, it's a journey for us all. So um, we just give
God thanks and for the work that was done there. And I really truly
hope that the momentum is you know, kept, because that for me is
very important sometimes that the evangelist comes in and lights the fire, as I
said, and then it weigh in spot we really want to play the church,
but in fact for what we could see the leaders. Actually, you
know, we're very because I remember that the two passes at the end as
a youth pass if I remember rightly, you know, again from what I
can for what I gather from I'm from the translation was you know that they
are welcoming with open arms. You know that they're to support them, you
know, and the work will continue. So like you said, let's hope
that definitely does. Um, you've got one last clip. Yes, yeah,
So this is from a guy called Ben. He was one of the
young people. Now, this program was put together by the young people.
Um, and I remember rightly. I think this is probably one of the
first things they've done. So let's hear this was. I caught him at
the end after after the concert, and I'm sure he was promising me he's
gonna speak to me. I was like, okay, when you're ready,
I know who's busy tied you up and finishing. So let's hear what his
thoughts were at the end of it, Ben. And Ben is one of
the team that's put our program together. So Ben, tell me a little
bit about yourself. Hello, I am Ben in now and the leader of
Frightender on the s D Laren. Okay, so, but I also understand
you're part of the team that put this program I was gonna say in French,
leave, Oh no, let's not. My French is terrible. Get
up and shine. That's right, let's why are yeah? So you were
part of the team. Yes, Um, what tell me a little bit
about the thing? Why get up and shine? We we choose get up
and shy because you think, UM, it's important for young people to put
Jesus in UH in their life because we live in the moment um where we
found we see many many young people UM don't love to go in the church
and leave the church. And for us it's really important to UH young we
is in the in the in the church, UM to have this encouragement to
UH to put Jesus in your life. And for that we we choose a
get up and shy. Okay, So how has the week been for you?
I think it's the best week and I live in my life really because
we it's the first time we organize this program in the in the church,
and for us it was really important to have in an impact in the in
the Federation feder first and all the young people in um our friends because many
friends come here many benediction benediction in UH. He loved this and it's a
great way to to show um that Jesus can be U be great and we
can have a great woman in the in the Church of Oh Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that's good. Um, so I can see I only came from
Thursday. It wasn't as a Friday, but from what I understand from Pastor
Rey, it was packed out every night, so you had a lot of
people coming, had a lot of people watching online. What has been the
feedback? What have people said to you about the program? Every day?
We have many people who say congratulation because I think every message Pastory delivered every
night it was wonderful and people really liked that. And every song, every
moment it was, it was has been has been really perfect and people really
like that. And for us in the Friday first not it's a it's a
really big thing because many people come here after works and we we don't realize
this in other church in the in the Federation. Okay, for us,
it's great. So what's going to be next? After this? The next
it's time to sleep right and after Seriously, we try to organize many activities
for young people in the church because I think it's important to the young people
to have a great relationship with other young people and also the member of the
church, and and our relationship with Jesus Christ. And I think when we
do many activities we show the love of God in all in our life.
Yes, it's it's really really important for us to improve us. Okay,
So what would you so tell me a little bit about church in France.
This is my first time worshiping in a French church. What is it like
generally? So I can see you the the worship is not the same time,
okay, in it's very different. Okay, So here it's really an
exceptance because we we live a time who people need to to have this worship,
okay. And for us it's really important to have this great energy and
in the many church in in in France, we don't found this energy the
people is just and for us it's it's a great thing to to to do
that and to to show um other advances. Um, it's we can we
can put God with with with a great worship. Yes, so you've got
to try and bring that more more into your church. Finally, then how
would you say to encourage young people today? Okay? And the young people
who are in the church or any I mean in the church, in the
church and outside of church as well. Actually, I think for the people
who is in the church, it's really important to to be an influencer,
influencer for for Chot, we need to show UM the love of God in
our life. And it's really important because UH, with that, we're gonna
show our friends UM that Jesus can be can be a light in our life.
And for other people who don't know Jesus. I think, UM,
it's really important to UH to to search the truth because we live in the
in UM. I can explain that day yes times, yes, Yes,
it's really important to to to search that because we have a many prophecy realizes
right now. So it's it's important to to UH to be curious, curious
about the about the world, different religions and and and Jesus. Just so
Jesus. I think it's the best and going Jamie, I can give every
people cool Thank you, Benn. It's been fantastic talking to you, and
it seems like this week has been a real inspiration, had a big impact.
You had thirteen people get baptized, yes, so, which is amazing.
Indeed, indeed, and I just hope your work that you do within
your churches continues in the same way. Thank thank you so much. Thank
you again. He was was lovely and again the whole team that put this
together, they worked so hard and as Joe to being said about at the
beginning, they were really diligent with whether they did. Everything was really top
notch. I mean they did an amazing job, you know, whether it's
hosting, whether it was doing the quiz, it's given out prizes. Yeah,
definitely. And at the end of the day, the encouragement that he
gave to young people was to be curious, to search out. Now is
the time to be asking those questions, to find out, find out about
Jesus, and I think you get that relationship for yourself. And I hope
a program like that it's always you know, it sparks a fire. As
it were. I was asking the question, how are you going to get
up and shine? And everybody I spoke to was really saying they really want
to share with other people just how great God is. So you know,
from that, I definitely know I felt inspired from a little bit that I
saw. I was there just for the long weekend. I'm just seeing the
energy which were just really lovely. I'm just really inspired and came away thinking,
oh, I want to travel more. But I think just experiencing worshiping
a different place and being able to feel part of that was yeah, truly
amazing. So I love that. I think for me it was I was
there for the Saturday, the Sabbath service and passed to race spoke about power,
and he spoke about his dad making this motor bicycle for him and he
didn't have a light for the bicycle that you said, No, I'm getting
into day and just territory trying to say what he said, but he didn't
have a light for the bicycle. Apparently his dad did some wiring and whatnot,
unconnected the wire for the ball, but two the pedals, so in
essence, when he peddled, it generated the energy to get the light going.
You know. He spoke about humble beginnings and just having to make things
out of nothing, and that for him was a sermon because he spoke about
the light that we have to let shine and it is the power of God
that gets it going, and that for me was the essence of the program.
You know, the power of God working in us and through us,
and the young people who were on fire for him. You could see that
they were really eager, really yearning for him, for more of him.
And that is something that maybe we take for granted and we don't want to
We want to always have that path should that passion for him and that power
connecting to the Holy Spirit, and that for me is what I took away
from the program as well as passed thorate Um. Just so you know that
we want to be on the next plane with you, wherever you're going there,
we're on board to that. When he was peddeling with the bike,
he was peeling up hill, yes, and then when he got to the
top of the hill, he went he turned around and he went back down
the hill. He was using as a metaphor of that once we get to
the top, guy will be with us and it would be smooth sailing going
down down the hill, and that he didn't have to put that much power
into it to the bike to let the light shine, because the light was
already shining, because the body had his own power. Yeah, because it
was going down hill. Amen. I just want to add the rest of
that story, because he forgot it. No, I didn't forget it.
What else did you take I was listening listening because I said I was listening,
it wasn't listening. But that's exactly what I mean. What else did
you take away from it? Like you said, I think Um pastor age
is really um connected to the to the people, even though it's in a
different language, in a sense of just you know, showing people that God,
God is real and that God is Um. You know, got our
backs and He's here for us. We just have to you know, be
faithful and watch over lad him Um watch over us and be faithful and just
believe that God is there. And you know, if we do that Guy
will take us through the storms, He'll bring us through the fire, and
he'll bring us out on top on sins. Amen, Amen, Josephine Tya.
We've got a few more seconds perhaps, but um, we really want
to hear from you. What what did you take away? What's your final
one? Actually we didn't mention it before, but the idea of bringing culture
as part of the worship service. Ray made a real point of saying,
please sing some of your songs that you grew up singing. Yea, and
they had a bit more of a vibe. They had a bit more of
you know, what they are used to maybe for six days of the week
and not the seventh. Yes, but he's saying, don't neglect that part
of your worship, like they go hand in hand. And I think that
really added to the comfort of getting to know God during this series and the
authenticity because sometimes we put parts of ourselves to decide to have a quote unquote
worship session. But we need to be encouraged to bring all of ourselves,
culture backgrounds, well, our interests, all of that into our worships.
And I think that's what allowed it to be so dynamic and so effective.
Yes, the context there and a lot of the members were mostly Haiti,
so you know, yeah, yeah, Tara, I'm that note talking about
worshipping the songs. Well, what was m How was your takeaway? My
takeaway is to just, you know, keep God in your life, keep
God first, um, you know, because he's a present, he's there,
he's waiting, and all he wanted is for you to make time for
him. And I think through that the whole revival people that was there,
I hope that they I hope that they'll be able to experience God in a
different way, you know, and receive him and to better themselves for Jesus.
And then I'm petrol. Do you want to close us out with a
prayer? Okay? Having the following on, thank you for bringing us to
another Talking Point program. We hope that we have blessed anybody that's been listening
as we have been blessed during the show. We asked a lot now as
we go through this week, did you be with us and everything we do.
U shine your light to us that we may let other us know how
wonderful and great you are to listen to them. Ever, we want to
thank you Lord for opportunity that you gave Talking Point to go to France and
to minister and that the church will thrive and grow more with your love and
with your understanding and with um your blessing having your Father, that they will
be able to reach more people in France, and that we may be reach
people worldwide through YouTube. So we thank you Lord for your loving immersing,
your grace for that's appearing your holy name. Amen, Amen, Amen.
And speaking of creole and culture, we're gonna go out with nara Um featuring
Travis Green and until next time, it's been Sena Angela and Pa Joe and
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