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Don't you always want to be the
best you can be. The Frankie Boyer

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Show it's more than a lifestyle show. It's a show about living in today's

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world. I think something is happening. Frankie enthusiastically brings an amazing eclectic mix

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to the airwaves. That one of
the reasons she's earned legions of loyal fans

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is very simple. When you listen
to The Frankie Boyer Show, you just

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never know what's going to happen.
So listen for yourself. Here is Frankie

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Boyer and welcome. This is such
an important segment. This is Frankie Boyer.

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Joining us today is Danny Quintana.
He is the president and founder of

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the Global High Sea High Seas Marine
Preserve, which is a non non profit

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education organization dedicated to educating people on
ocean wildlife issues. He's the author of

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several books, most recently Space and
Ocean Exploration as the Alternative to World War

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Three and Why the Earth Is Still
the Center of the Universe. He's a

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graduate of the University of Utah and
Political Science and Utah's College of Law,

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as a member of the Mars Society
and as Always and it's been too many

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years, but you have spent decades, decades talking about the ocean, Danny,

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and it's such a pleasure and a
welcome. Welcome to the program.

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Thank you for having me on,
Frankie. It's good to be back.

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And Hie to all of you people
out there. Always listen to Frankie because

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you've got great advice for you.
You're so sweet, Danny. We know

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that we know that the state of
the ocean is in serious, serious condition.

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But how bad is it? Well, right now, as we speak,

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half of all of the wildlife and
the oceans has been slaughtered. Ninety

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percent of the predator fish, that's
the large fish, the huge bluefin tuna,

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the big, big predators have been
slaughtered. It's like going to the

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serengetti and there's no lions or hyenas
or leopards because they've all been killed.

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The Asians are killing two hundred thousand
sharks each day for sharks and soup.

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And then you talk about the garbage. It's being dumped into the oceans over

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ten million tons a year. I
mean, they're a mess, and we've

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got to clean it up, and
we need to turn it around. And

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we have an idea on how to
do this. So my question to you

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is when we see one of the
a species going through trauma and there have

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a hard time reproducing, you know, we protect them. Who's protecting these

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big fish in the ocean, is
anyone? Well, that is the heart

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of the problem. You hit it
right on the nail in the High Seas,

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which is the area of past two
hundred miles, because within the first

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two hundred miles, nations have what's
called the exclusive Economic gym zone, and

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out in the High Seas it's the
wild wild West. There's literally no law

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enforcement. So it's basically what's called
the tragedy of the commons. It's the

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race to catch the last fish.
The fish belong to everyone, then it

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belongs to no one. So you
get fishermen out there that are over fishing,

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and you get the mess that we
have. So what we're proposing is

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amand what's called the Law of the
Seas tree and create a global High Seas

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Marine Preserved where we protect all of
the wildlife forever. So one hundred percent

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of the oceans would be protected.
Now, Frankie, that's important because the

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oceans cover seventy percent of the planet, so when we go through with this

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idea, basically, we will solve
the majority of our environmental problems because fixing

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the problems on land doesn't matter.
Of just getting people to change their diet.

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You'll just eat healthy and you have
a healthy planet. Not so easy

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for people to do not so healthy
and not so easy for people to do

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it all. You know, Danny, this is such a hotbed because explain

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to us this is such a big
conversation in Sylvia or Earl from Noah.

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I spoke with her a decade ago, a decade ago, and she is

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wonderful. Oh my god, isn't
she She's such a delightful human being.

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And she was saying back then how
concerned she was, and she said,

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I don't think people realize that if
there is not a healthy ocean, that

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we will not survive. So the
state of the ocean is critical for humans

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to survive. And that message has
been lost. Annie. Well, it

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doesn't get publicity. The mass media, the Big five don't pay attention to

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something like that. Because when you're
standing on the beach, and most Americans

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live within fifty miles of the ocean, you look out there on the ocean

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and everything looks pristine and fine,
but you can't see what's going on under

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the waves. Half of all our
oxygen comes from the ocean, and the

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majority of life on Earth, the
majority of species are in the ocean,

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and we're discovering new species every day
down deep. So it's something that all

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of us have a shared interest in
protecting, which is why I'm optimistic that

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we can do it. And we
can do it. It's a matter of

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just changing international law, and we
can use our navy. That's why I

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wrote my new book Space and Nocan
Exploration, the Alternative to World War Three.

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We can use the world's navies for
enforcement, so that gives the Navy

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a new basically contract, a new
mission. We can give the armies of

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the world cleaning up all of the
damage that we've done with our landfills and

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with our rivers being polluted and all
the rest, and with the aerospace contractors.

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What I recommend in my new book
is have all of the nations space

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programs combine into a giant space program
to explore the Inner's holar system, because

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that's such a massive endeavor of Frankie
that we really can't do it alone.

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I know there's efforts now for China, Russia, Japan, European Union and

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ourselves and India to go to the
moon, but to really explore the Solar

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system, mind the asteroid belt,
to build colonies on Mars and so on.

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It's going to take a combined human
effort and it will demilitarize the planet.

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But getting back down to Earth and
the practical matters that we need to

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do here, and let's be practical
for a minute. If we get other

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nations to adopt our marine laws and
we have the best marine laws and the

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best enforcement in the world, then
everybody wins because if you want good seafood,

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and I would encourage people to really
support American fishermen because we do it

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right. Our fishermen do it right. Just stink seafood from your own country

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here in the US. When you
buy seafood from Alaska, you're getting clean

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seafood that's been inspected, that has
been very carefully regulated. I mean,

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the regulation that goes up there is
amazing. One of my interns of Dash

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Robinson, was just stuck there and
he brought me back this incredible salmon steak

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the bilet that is just terrific.
So you want to eat seafood, eat

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seafood, but make sure it's only
from your own country. There's no reason

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to be importing seafood all the way
from Chile or New Zealand and all these

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other places. And and Danny,
there's there's so much misinformation because some of

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the fish that are being used are
not even they're not even at the age

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to mature to even have babies,
because they're being killed before they have babies.

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And one example is that very fatty
fish. And we gave it,

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we gave it a name. What
are we calling it? It's really an

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ugly tooth fish. And they renamed
it Baths so that it could sell.

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Yeah, so we gave it a
pretty name. Absolutely right. You know

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what's the real name of that fish? And it takes twenty it takes twenty

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years for that fish to have babies
something like that. It's outrageous. You're

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thinking of orange rough edge. Yeah, that one of them. It takes

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a long time. But and they
change the name so that it would not

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be so ugly for people, and
they marketed and because it's a fat fish,

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it's so fatty you can freeze it
forever. And it is still taste

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good. And that's part of the
problem. That's part of the bigger picture.

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If we want to save the wildlife
and the oceans, quit eating that.

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God and now, with microplastics and
all the toxins that are in the

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oceans, it's not necessarily the best
choice. The diet in the developed world

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has caused horrendous health problems. I
mean, think about this, Frankie.

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Seventy percent of Americans are overweight,
uh, fifty percent or obese, and

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forty percent are now morbid the ob
And I was looking to the study the

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other day. A friend of mine
showed me forty percent of the applicants for

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the armed forces cannot pass the physical
It's true, that's true. I've heard

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this, Danny. We have to
take a quick break. There's I can't

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believe how quickly this segment went.
Let's take a quick break. Recap.

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Will be back in a moment.
Give us the best website and how people

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can get your new book so important
to support and Amazon wonderful say it again

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saving oceans dot org. Oceans dot
org is our website. My name Danny

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Kintana, and on Amazon and you'll
see the book wonderful, a real visionary

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and champion. We'll be back in
just a moment with Danny. I'm Frankie

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Boyer. Stay tuned, we are
back. He is truly Danny Quintana.

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When did Saving Oceans dot org?
When was this? Tell us how this

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became your passion in life. Well, I like to write, and i'd

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like to do research, and I've
been studying about nuclear weapons since I was

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eight years old, and I was
trying to think of a way that we

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could demilitarize the American economy. So
I wrote the first book on this,

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this which is Space and Ocean Exploration, The Alternative to the Military Industrial Complex.

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And as I was doing the research, I think all of you out

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there in regual Land has at one
time or another had an epiphany where something

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just grabs you and says, I've
got to do something about this. So

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it's four in the morning and I'm
doing the research and it's half the wildlife

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and the oceans has gone. I
go what. And then I do more

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research and ninety percent of the large
predator fish are gone. What? And

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then we're killing two hundred thousand sharks
each day, and it's like, oh

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my gosh, We've got to do
something about this, and I got this

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etiphany that well, let's change the
law. Let's create a global High season

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Marine Preserve and protect all of the
oceans, and let's give the aerospace contractors

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exploration of space and the Navy contractors
exploration of the oceans. So that's how

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the Global High Season Marine Preserve was
created. And that was about eight years

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ago. And I got a really
nice letter from President Obama, Frankie,

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but you know, he didn't follow
any of my advice. So I mean,

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they did create one of the largest
marine protected areas. But yes,

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by the way, so you also, I just want to mention to everybody

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that you also continue to practice law
with his passion as well, and that

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you play wheelchair tennis and and you
still are a prolific author. Well,

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I like using the proceeds from my
law practice and our books to deliver wheelchairs

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to other countries and to fund our
nonprofits. So we have our nonprofit to

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funds ten interns with University of Hawaii, and then we have a couple other

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interns over there, and then we
have some with University of Utah, with

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Texas A and M. And if
any of you out there are are interested

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in an internship. You know,
we ask your college professors to give you

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college credit. So just reach out
to me and you can reach me through

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Savy Notions dot org. The book
can be purchased on Amazon. And my

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last name is Qui n t a
Na. So if you look up Danny

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Quintana and then Space and Notion Exploration
the Alternative to World War Three, because

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we have to stop this drift towards
another war. It's senseless. It's got

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to stop. You know, a
Putin made a giant mistake, and so

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did the United States. There is
no alternative to peace. The problems facing

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the planet are so intertwined that whether
we like each other or not, and

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we don't have to like each other, but we must work together. People

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out there in radio land, we
must work together. And working together,

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human problems always have a human solution. They just do. Yes, yes,

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we have to. We just have
to give us some examples of what

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we as consumers can do. Who
do you want us to support? Who

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do you want us not to support? Well, what I would recommend to

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all of you out there is support
your local fishermen here from the United States.

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They need to be paid better.
Their jobs are extremely dangerous, and

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they're competing with foreign companies that are
not playing by the same set of rules.

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These foreign companies get tax subsidized and
they dump their seafood on our market.

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And the other thing is is when
you buy seafood from another country,

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there's no guarantee whatsoever that what you're
buying is actually what's on the label.

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I would not rest command buying shrimp
from Southeast Asia. Only four percent of

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the seafood that's imported into the United
States is inspected. So and you know,

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look at your food choice of try
to go with a more vegetarian diet,

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stay away from beef, chicken,
and park because industrial farming is a

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disaster for the planet. And just
eat less, eat ride and exercise and

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that's the best thing you can do
for the environment. And that's the best

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thing you can do for the oceans. And do simple things like buy a

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tumbler. Do not buy plastic water
containers at all, you know, anyway

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from single use plastic items. I
mean, I think, honest to God,

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Frankie, I think that plastic is
the existential threat to humanity into the

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planet. I mean, climate change
is a problem. And obviously, what's

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the big problem. What's happening is
the birds are eating the plastic and the

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fish are the fish are eating them. I mean, the plastic is everywhere.

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I stopped eating fish a long time
ago because I'm concerned about the plastic

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and I just don't I don't want
to eat it. But for man,

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the mercurys and the toxins and all
of it, it's just a bloody mess.

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It's just a bloody mess, Danny. And no one is talking,

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not many are talking about it.
And Sylvia Earl was absolutely spot on when

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she said if we do not if
we do not take control of the ocean,

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oceans and understand that if we do
not keep them clean, there will

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not be an Earth. There will
not be an earth, there will not

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be a planet Earth, there will
not be mankind. And that that's a

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radical, huge hama that she made, and it's worse today than when she

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made it. Well, she's right. But the thing is is I'm optimistic.

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Maybe it's because I have this beautiful
granddaughter. It's a year old.

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But we can turn around. We
can turn it around by changing the diet.

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And you know, don't count on
your congressman, or your senator or

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your politicians to help. You want
to see who's going to help. Look

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in the mirror. That's who's going
to help. And you have control over

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this. Ladies and gentlemen. You
have control because you control the purse stream.

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If you don't buy their garbage,
they can't sell it. Every time

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you go into a grocery store or
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your purchase, it's probably going to
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throw anything away because we're all on
the same planet. So what we have

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to do is change the economic model, and that starts with you, ladies

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and gentlemen. So please buy our
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our nonprofit and just eat right,
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and be kind to each other.
We don't have to like each other.

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But I don't believe, Frank,
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have enemies. I don't think Russia
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There are people over there on the
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about their daily lives like we are, and I think we all need to

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just work together clean up the mess
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every crisis as an opportunity. It's
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planet can create millions of jobs because
it's labor intensive. Absolutely, Danny.

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Absolutely, Danny. Where are the
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for for fish and wildlife? Right
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my gosh, I'm going to have
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gonna say it has to be Southeast
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I talking. We just said it
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It goes so quickly, and I'm
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website and the book and all of
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The website to support our nonprofit is
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stop this drift to a world war
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you, ladies and gentlemen. It
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She is. Oh, thank you
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We'll be back in just a moment. Frankie Boyer, stay tuned and

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welcome back. It is Frankie Boyer, and it is a real pleasure to

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welcome to the program someone who's been
involved in theater for her practically her whole

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life. Gail Pap is with us
today, and Gail, you have had

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the most extraordinary career. You have
a new memoir, and the new memoir

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is all about New York City's public
theater and your husband, Joe Joe Pap

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and the book is very it's this
new memoir and it's very revealing about what

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you went through. Welcome to the
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lovely to be here. But you
grew up in a home with theater everywhere,

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correct, it's a sort of I
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generations of actors in it, mostly
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of them that I didn't know as
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not in the theater. They were
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I felt I wanted to keep my
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but I wasn't an actor myself,
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of it, and finally ended up
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does free Shakespeare in New York City
in Central Park. It was a conscious

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sort of course, correction and desire
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related, I would say to the
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The new book. By the way, the new memoir is called Public

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Private, My life with Joe Papp
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When did it? When did it
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Public Theater was opened in nineteen sixty
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stages, and our first production was
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Oh my Gosh, and it would
that's right, it started exactly wild

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time, Oh my gosh. It
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seven. That's amazing, absolutely amazing, Gail. You were the developer of

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new plays and musicals and you did
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I mean it goes on and on
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was quite amazing. We opened with
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very, very small. We had
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shakespereence after park and nothing new,
so we had no background and doing new

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plays, but along a new musical
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a day, So we sort of
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who had started as enterprise, had
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idea of doing free Shakespeare making it
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so he started in the mid fifties. I came on board in the

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mid sixties, which was the start
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preceded by the Free Shakespeare Organization.
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that time. There were only about
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was for me it was a marvelous
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in terms of Shakespeare and then working
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Gail, how how did you meet
Joe And was it love at first

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sight? No, I can't call
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desperately seeking work, and I thought, well, I wanted to continue in

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the theater. So I'll write to
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and see if anybody has a job. This is really strange and desperate kind

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of thing for person to do.
I really just wanted to be in a

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theater, and I didn't really know
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way. But anyway, I set
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individually a little portable because this is
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it was a labor and I sent
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in a one room apartment above a
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and all of a sudden, the
fabulous what a neighborhood. Oh my

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gosh, what a neighborhood. Yeah, So the phone rang on this small

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apartment kitchen at wall. I answered
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other end of city. He was
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They might have an opening for summer
tamps work. It's Tipperary, So I

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thought I need a job. So
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was then a suite of rooms in
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public theater of any kind at that
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a personnel manager, and so I
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hotel. And I've been told that
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and Central Park was Joe pap And
but I hadn't met him yet because he

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was directing a play and he was
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April nineteen sixty five, and one
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and he walked past my desk.
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was or what I was doing here. There was a suppers champ, you

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know, but he said good morning. I said good morning. Then one

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day, when he was passing by
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sudden. Story would what I would
call a nano second, and he said,

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I'd wore my hair down. I
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my head, but I wore my
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said, oh, he said,
the Juliet look. You should always wear

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it that way. Then he strode
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first personal exchange that I had with
him. So I just wanted to give

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a I just want to give a
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because yeah, he really as a
producer and director and the founder the

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New York Shakespearean Shakespearean Festival, and
but he won more than two hundred stage,

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film and television awards. He was
called the most important force in the

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English speaking theater in the twentieth century. He was also an outspoken champion of

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human rights in the First Amendment.
He really and truly produced and over six

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hundred plays and musicals by nineteen ninety
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And your workale in public theater include
The Normal Heart, Larry Kramer's Tony Award

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winning play about the AIDS crisis,
for which he won the Humanity Human Rights

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Campaign Arts and Communications Award. And
also you have been involved with the Mystery

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of Edwin Drew. Is that correct? Yes? Right? Yeah? And

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you guys got married in what year, nineteen seventy six, nineteen thirty six,

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with an interesting aspect of this theater
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City at least it was founded by
somebody from a humble background, without any

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money or any major back backers or
donors. Bill came from a an impoverished

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background. Actually he born in Brooklyn. His parents were immigrants from Poland and

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Lithuania. Uh. He had no
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in his own uh god given entity, which was fascinating. I am so

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thrilled that you have been with us
today. We're out of time, but

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okay, it's a pleasure to thank
you. Thank you so much. No,

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it's our pleasure. It's absolutely our
pleasure. Gail Public Private My life

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with Joe Pop at the Public Theater. It's available wherever books are sold.

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And is there a website you want
to promote as well? Or is that

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just to find the book? Sure? Sure, you can go to my

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name Gail pap at C A I, L P A PPS and Peter uh

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dot com. It takes you to
my website and there's a lot of stuff

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there that might be of interest.
Thank you so much, Gail, so

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appreciate it. Thank you. Take
a quick breaking. Okay, right back,

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it's Frankie Boy, stay tuned,
byebye, and welcome back. Joining

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us now is multi award winning author
Eddie Chugulate and he is Creek and Cherokee.

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He is a Creek and Cherokee Indian. You grew up in Oklahoma,

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you now live in in Minneapolis,
and your new memoir is out. It's

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called This Indian Kid, a Native
American memoir getting rave reviews. By the

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way rave rave reviews. This book
is absolutely an honest book about how you

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grew up shuffled between different households.
It was an impoverished lifestyle. But despite

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the challenges that you faced, you
say that there was so much love and

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bountiful lessons from your your Creek and
Cherokee heritage. Eddie. Yeah, tell

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me a little bit about this life
that you've had and why you wanted to

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write this this new memoir. Yeah. I wrote a collection of stories for

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adults called Shy and Madonna, And
in writing those, I encovered, you

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know, some experiences from childhood that
didn't really fit into the adult story that

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it brought back a lot of memories. So I start keeping a notebook have

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these stories that didn't make it concerning
childhood. And I showed one of them

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to my agent and he really liked
it and said, do you know,

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do I have any more for you
know, like a book plan that you

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think there's a book there and that's
how all that started. Ah, nice,

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very nice. You grew up in
Oklahoma in the seventies. Your parents

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were divorced. You say it was
a racially mixed environment. Yes, in

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Miscogee, I my hometown. Yep, a lot more racially diverse than a

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lot of town. You went to
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Yeah, two in the first grade. Oh my gosh, Oh my god.

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I had forgotten that. I I
thought I went to that my klea

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elementary, but I ran away from
school. I thought that was my only

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school, and my mom sent me
a box of pictures and report cards,

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and I found the other report cards
from another first dragon. So even in

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first aright, I didn't finish the
whole school. Wow, you became very

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good friends. Your best friend was
was black and that impacted your friendship.

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Yeah, Lonnie, she uh.
He brought down the road from us,

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and since we were so close,
we wrote the same bus to school,

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men to school gather and played the
same baseball team. But we've kept in

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contact over the years, even up
until this day. He was the one

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my uncle. I have a throat
there beginning called the word. Yeah,

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yeah, ye, people I never
really saw again after that he passed away.

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That that's my time. He was
already passed away, so sad,

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not someone that I saw on every
day. Basis, what do you want

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readers to take away and listeners from
your your memoir? I guess for kids

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it's uh, well, first of
all, to stay in school because you

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never know who what route you'll take, you know who you're gonna meet or

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who I have an influence on your
life. And also too, they get

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because your parents are grandparents are racist, doesn't mean that you have to be

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a rap that matter among people who
will be influential in your life. They

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can be white, Black, Ingian, Native Asian, whatever, So race

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doesn't matter when someone's trying to help
you out, and you you want this

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story to be heard because you say
that your story can be any one story

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today, right, And it's also
the show that Native Americans are more varied

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than just people on reservations that go
to the casino and play bingo. Mhm,

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yes, you know and small count
America. I guess. Yeah.

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You've won so many awards, so
many writing awards, and you began as

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a journalist at age sixteen, while
still in high school. Right, that

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came because of I decided to go
out for baseball. And when I made

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the team, my coach was a
sports writer, former sportswriter who taught journalism,

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so he had me in his class
and he saw that I had a

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knack for it, and he turned
me over to the local daily paper and

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that's how I started. That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. And You've won a

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Penno Henry Prize and was selected by
so many. You won a Wallace Stegner

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Creative Writing Fellowship at Stanford, You've
earned a master's degree at the University of

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Valua Writing Writer's Workshop, and you
still absolutely love, love, love writing.

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But you know you've done everything.
You've picked pecans, you've moved furniture,

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you've worked as a day laborer,
you received food stamps, you sold

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your your plasma. You've done it
all, Eddie, and I think you

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give us a lot of hope.
And I thank you so much for being

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with us. This Indian Kid is
his new book. It's a Native American

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memoir. And Eddie, we see
Eddie chucolate. Thank you so much for

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being with us, and thank all
of you. This has been another edition

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of the Frankie Boyer Show. Thanks
for listening. Make it a great day

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everybody, and as always, smile
to smile through you off dude and stole

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smile And maybe tomorrow you'll see the
sun come rocking through or you I've got

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face with gladness, find between subsets
WoT maybe ever sow here and it just

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smiled. He food are fears and
start smile, and maybe tomorrow you'll see

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the light as still worth while if
you tomorrow and some more