We're gonna go around. What I want to do is first us just talk
about the film that we picked, because this is another rule we started a
couple of years ago because there was times where it's like, oh, I
would have really liked to nominate this, but no one saw it. All
of us get one film to pick throughout the whole year to say, hey,
this is my film I would like you all to watch to know,
you know, whether it's this category any others I would like to talk about
it. So I'm gonna start with you, mister Muss, because this one
that movie talked about a lot. So what was your submission? And I
imagine most of our submissions that will be you would be saying, hey,
I would nominate this for Best Picture. So that's what I'm staring there.
So what was your submission? And we give some general thoughts because I feel
like all our submissions we've either talked about little or not all cast wise.
So fortunately, I mean, you know, going into this, until very
recently, I didn't really have one, whereas I feel like the last couple
of years since we've imp implemented this rule, I've had one that I really
want you guys to see I think my pick last year was r R and
I'm really glad I got you guys to watch that one, because I,
yeah, we just wouldn't have really talked about otherwise. And I originally for
this year, I picked Bo's Afray and that was kind of just like,
I need Taylor and Kirkland to watch this. It's like a bit of a
torturist thing to make someone watch because that movie is so weird and very long.
But then I saw a lot of move called Poor Things. I decided
I'm gonna switch my pick. So these guys hadn't watched well, I assume
you didn't watch Bo's Afraid yet, Travis. Of course we did the review,
you've seen it, and I switched my pick to Poor Things, which
I don't I going into this. I usually have like a number one that
I'm fighting for. I don't really know what my number one is this year,
but I fucking love that movie. It is so weird, it is
bizarre, like visually it's fantastic. The music is great, performances, you
get some like we love Willem Dafoe here and this is like a prime William
dufo roll Em. The Stone is obviously just top like top tier here.
So absolutely, Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a movie from this
director or like the style of it. It's just in every category, I
feel like it kind of has something to uh praise. So yeah, I
really loved Poor Things. And I don't know how what any of you guys
think of it yet because we haven't talked about it all. We've kind of
been silent. Time you guys saw it all together, you all know how
each other feel. I'm sure it was us three and two other guys in
the back, that's who we saw. It was a theater of five,
and we had the majority and crowd, Yes, it was a good crowd.
But yeah, I was excited you put that in there because it was
it was almost like because Dale said that and like like that I was bitching
about for weeks that we didn't get any and it's funny said that you were
going to see it anyway. Yeah, this was mostly the theater issue,
right, So I'm happy you'd put it in because I already will get to
my pick. I already use my pick. And that's one where it's like
I agreed that for several categories, I have this one. I pretty I
pretty much loved it. I need a second watch to see if I can
give it a full five star or a ten star in the Geek first round
because there were a few plot issues that didn't connect me with me where I
went. Oh, like, I thought it was a bit of a jump,
but it's also a very weird movie and the characters act very differently,
so it's not my same world. It's just that I needed a bit more
time with it. But I'm not gonna spoil everything. But like I have
an acting scene like visuals, we do visuals score for sure, score is
just fantastic. They can Uh yeah, I'll say more of my thoughts when
we go dacting. But yeah, it was kind of it was better than
I thought it was gonna because I just wanted to see it. But his
other work. For me, what happens is he's done killing him Sacred Deer,
the Favorite and the Lobster. What happens for not so much of the
Favorite. The Favorite I just didn't enjoy. Like. I liked it,
but it was fine. His stuff usually is always very weird, but it
kind of loses me near the end. I think sometimes it loses it's touch
with humanity where I think this one did a good job of not that.
So if this is obviously when you put up and imagining, you're putting as
like a nomination, right for Best project or Best Film? Yeah, for
many categories it'll be Yeah, so if we're just talking about best So I
personally for Dylan's, but I I I'm backing four things for a contender right
now. So okay, I gotta know Taylor Field, would you would you
also back it? I gotta look at what I when I rded it.
I think I would based on it because I can't rememberotiating. Yeah, it
just can tenders. But I was surprised by his letterbox ring because I did
in a tourists and say this is not a Taylor Field movie, which he
did admit there were some things that were not for him, yes of course.
Yeah, well that's where I thought I might I might be able to
pulld Taylor in on that. Yeah, which there were things some that Taylor
said were not for him. But I was surprised that you at least gave
it a positive review, so I would back this. Okay, there you
go. Check. I gave it a three and a half five. Okay,
I think that's good for Taylor. These are that's not a Taylor movie
in my opinion, which that's why I'll bring up my pick. So I
had picked saltburn which, of course I am people's champion right now, I'm
back for most people unless you're us Clagent. Uh you know the Patroons,
the Discorders, the salt Burners. I'm here fighting. This is the one
I put up because obviously all we talked about was the trailer. It was
a movie that really blew up over winter because of Amazon and stuff I will
talk about more than Town Honkles. I'm like, well I didn't do a
proper review. Well it's like, well, well I did a mini one.
But also like if you look at the box office that made like ten
bucks, Like the movie didn't pop off until like Amazon and everyone's like have
you seen this movie? It became a very and it was like I think
before Spider it was like it's like across by Verse in this where it's like
it was like the fastest the letter box for like log for million, like
it's cool to see it take off. And for me, yeah, we
talked about on the trailer where it was just visually, I want to see
it and when I recommend it was because it just kind of has everything.
I definitely understand why there might be sun devices sniff. I don't understand Clay
and Taylor or maybe they're on the negative side of it. But this is
kind of similar to Poor Things, where it's like, I don't know if
it's a score, but it's like Guardians where it's like that soundtrack is banger.
I got in multiple acting categories, but overall the movie is just it's
just a great time. It is a version of different movies we've seen before,
but I think Emeral Finnl's styles just it's just banging and it just brings
something new to it. And I love the ratio. I love how that
movie is just it feels like warm, pink and gold and I love it.
It's just a luscious movie. So I got mainlying stop up, but
that was my pick this year. Everyone saw it also for the Discord and
Gie versus. You probably know that, but that's the one that I'd be
throwing up right now. Is Saltburn, Well, I think you're getting me
in Kirklands votes. I will back it. I don't have to check my
letterbox score for that. I don't wanted to watch this movie, and I
watched it when she was, you know, at her parents placed over the
holidays because I didn't really want to wait, I really wanted to see it.
Watching it second time definitely, I mean it was already super high,
but it elevated it somehow. So it's definitely an easy nom for me.
So I want Taylor to watch a second time. You know, I know
you say I'll never watch this again, but the second time there's a few
different things where it's like, you know, but that look on his face,
the negotiables, that's not that's a non negotiable I will I will say
after watching Kirkland's movie, I did. I did bump up my score on
Saltburn. Actually I actually changed wow, like but it still woul't have been
a back for you, Taylor. I'm guessing I'll put it this way,
like I think I failed Saltburn, but I put it in like a positive.
No, you put it. You gave it the full two and a
half, you gave it the path, you gave it the path. Oh
I bumped it up further than that. Okay, then, but the original
score just because even then things, Yeah, I was surprised quick mass No.
Five or five. But okay, so we got that one as a
contender, and Kirkland, you know, Taylor alluded to it. So what
movie did you make us watch? And I'm guessing you're putting up there I
didn't make you well, I guess I did. We did, right.
I was a strong recommendation. I would have never watched this movie a few
and that's nothing against it, but that's why it's a making right. That
was a big reason why I actually wanted to nominate this. I mean,
first of all, I recommended that everybody watch The Boy and the Heron by
Studio GHIBBLI. I would say Ghibli, but I'm finally just it means that
that's the proper way to say it. I give my whole life from you
nerds, I know, so did I. And then someone's like, well,
actually, but anyway, nonetheless from the great and powerful director Heyo Miyazaki.
And he's the one that's directed like all of the big major studio uh
catching up already Studio Ghibli movies, and those are like by far some of
my favorite movies of all time, like especially being an anime fan, they
just they just touched on so many different elements, the animation, just attention
to detail that they have in all of their projects are just so topped here
and we have not covered any Studio Ghibli movies on the podcast. So this
was like my one big opportunity. Plus the movie is just such a banger,
and he actually came out of retirement just to like do this one project.
I feel like it will be one of those things that he'll wait a
few years and be like, ah, I'm ready to do another one.
But he already said that. He said because they asked him, he said
this was the last one. And then after they did all like the festivals,
he's like, I think I might do another. Yeah. So it's
like, yeah, he's already retracted the like there, which is fine.
He's great. I hope turn to you that's the same thing. Yeah,
don't don't retire, Like it doesn't matter if you make some man movies,
you know, make some more bad movies like yeah, but yeah, no,
I I absolutely love this film so much. I'm definitely pitching it for
Movie of the Year. And yeah, no, I this one like just
because it is animated, and I think at least Dylan saw the Japanese version,
right so I saw Japanese as well because I had to go to a
later one. I went to a later one, so yeah, it was
just Japanese with English subtitles. I do want to watch the English one because
there's bail in there in Patterson. I did do so many YouTube of Pattison
me too, Yes, so fucking good. He's the only one who were
like, yeah, like Dave Bautista's Depautista. You know these voice is so
different, and then you know, show us to Florence p who's playing like
an old lady and then also a young lady. You're in the YouTube like
on YouTube. So I wish I saw that version. But yeah, the
showtimes, I think I think I thought that you at least looked that up
though, because I had them like in some different categories and like not everyone
who has seen this version, so I don't know about that, but that'll
that'll make sorry Taylor Taylor, you saw the what Taylor saw the dub version.
I believe the English dub. Yeah there you go. Yeah, I
want you want to know, don't you. I watched the English or no,
I will watch the English one because but I watched enough clips like Dylan
Patch because I know he might come up and even based on that he could
be a contender, because yeah, some good stuff there. But yeah,
Taya, would you would you back this? And if so, why are
why not? I wouldn't back it. I think that the uh, the
voice acting was definitely it was definitely great. But the I wasn't totally absorbed
into the Alice in Wonderland kind of vibe of the story that it had.
I just wasn't. I didn't find it engaging. I wasn't connecting with really
the characters. It was not a movie for me. This is a message
that I got from Taylor Field while he was at the theater. Oh no,
the movie is still playing when you got the message. He just said,
no, he just said this hit. Yeah he was. I think
he said this hair and movie is not for me. Oh was after I
thought, I thought you were still in the theater when you messaged me.
But that was ten minutes in. This one's for me. Yeah, and
he must be talking about that movie, not the other hair. Yeah,
Stia's no back, Dylan, are you a back? I'm sorry, Kirkling,
I don't. I. Oh, there's the thing. So I was
I was out for dinner with some friends and who are also big Ghibli fans.
We were talking to They haven't seen it, but I was talking about
this movie, and you know, one thing with all these Ghibli movies,
and I'm sorry, I'm saying, goobly, I don't care. I know,
I transitioned already. Is there always? You know, is some maybe
some deeper mean, but it's like very abstract and it's very hard to parse.
And I feel like often I'm still able to get something and have my
interpretation in terms of what it means and all that. I just couldn't.
I couldn't find any of that with this movie. So the last twenty five
percent of it was just such spaghetti and it didn't really it didn't. It
didn't like land in any way. It just kind of faded out, Like
obviously it's beautiful. I think music is fantastic. I really like some of
the characters. I wish I got to see that English version as well for
some of those performances, But just on the story perspective, I it just
didn't do much for me, unfortunately, So I don't know if I can
back you, especially if you're not you don't have a passion of the room
I mean, if Travis loves it, then I think I'd be okay to
back and I hear your pitch on why it could be a contender, but
that's that's kind of where I'm at. I think this is gonna be your
Green Knight Kirkling that happened to be a couple of years ago. So I
so, I guess I have no experience. I think for me where and
I actually would have backed it as a contender, but I don't think I
would have got it to the full five. I think I do have it
in other categories that I would say yes for this or yes for this,
But I think it's just because when I look at what I have in my
top ten, it's just a five where it would make it. I think
for me, i'm their verse man other verse. I just disagree with what
Dylan said, not in the personally. I just mean, like the third
act work for me. I don't mean like you're wrong, I mean like
for me, what happened was I was actually loving the movie for the first
act and I really like how concluded. I had some issues with some relationships,
but still I was happy to concluded. It was the middle portion of
me at bost when he got on that fucking boat with that lady. I
felt like I could chop twenty five minutes away from this movie and to be
much more succinct and better. And no, I'm saying it like I think
I'm like out on a letter box. I hadn't did in the review because
I didn't want to spot for this. I'm somewhere between I at three point
five and a four, So I did like a lot of the stuff I
saw. That's why I will watch the English version again. But I'm gonna
watch with the girls because I'd like to get their opinions when they're this agency,
because I wasn't exposed to any of this stuff at that age. I'd
like to see and like it's tough because I go like, oh, do
you want to get into this? And then I always look at the rest
of his movies like, oh, this just doesn't look like Tras movies.
But I still enjoyed some aspects. But I really liked the beginning of this
kid who was just like this shit heel but he's just trying to deal with
the you know, mynersports. But I think they show this in the trail,
like the death of his moment, just the fact that he'll like take
a rock and can cuss himself just to like not go to school. Like
there's tons of aspects. That's where I for me, the middle portion,
I think we lost a little bit of that journey where the end gets us
back to certain characters that have to do with him and overcoming his grief.
For the middle it was like a fun adventure and there's some visual stuff,
but story wise, that's where it kind of lost me. So that's where
I was. So I think I would have backed as a good tender,
But I don't know if I could have gone the full Monty. But I
think because I think Kirkland could make a big case for me if I was
like, yeah, do that, I mean, I'll give an attempt here.
Personally, for me, I felt like this movie more so than other
Hyo Miyazaki films, Like I felt like the message was actually more straightforward than
some of the other ones, Like there weren't so much just left for interpretation,
like something like just to compare to one of the other films like Princess
Mononoke, that is such a complicated film where every single individual and party in
that film actually like they're not morally wrong really, like everybody has like a
case for like who could be or like you could back their their side and
like what they're doing, and this one it just feels like a kid that,
yeah, lost his mother in the war and now he's just like trying
to either escape that. And I think I think when they go down like
the Alice in Wonderland, compared to what Taylor brought up like that route,
it's it's like him almost escaping into like this fantasy world or deal with the
realism of like he actually doesn't have a mom anymore, and life goes on,
Like you got to push forward. You can't be so just angry at
the world around you because of that reason, Like you can't just not go
to school and like progress in your life because of this reason. And I
think that the movie just is such a good job at like symbolizing that with
just the way that the art style kind of goes along with the story,
like before he goes to the tower and like it really gets crazy. The
whole movie has like these really gray tones and it's just like very not colorful,
whereas that's the complete opposite when he actually goes like into this fantasy world.
Everything is super super bright and popping. You have the parakeets later on
that are just all colors, and like it's just it's higher than life.
And he even has that conversation later on when it's like you could just like
this could be you, you could be running this whole place, but you
know, obviously, well spoilers, I guess he makes a decision that maybe
isn't exactly in line with that one character. And I just thought it was
such a great like round, full circle moment by the end of it,
with some of the characters that have been bouncing in from the beginning and then
kind of back into the end. And I just you know, comparing that
with the art style and the soundtrack, there's this like really kind of creepy
tone that they have throughout the entire film. I don't even know like if
you'd call that an instrument or just these like orchestral chants going on. They
anytime those were going on, I had like goosebumps. And for me,
yeah, it was just I was eating up all of those elements. But
I can definitely understand where, like Travis you mentioned, like the middle portion,
you're just kind of getting lost because I think even as a Ghibli enjoyer
myself, like even in that section, it's just like, hey, what
are we doing here, Like I'm down for the ride. Especially that character
on the boat like that that was Florence Pugh. So just having her like
finally enter the movie, I was like, Okay, I've been waiting for
this as soon as I knew that she was on the casting bill. So
I think that this movie gets dark at times, but it still does that
just masterful bouncing act that Ghibli has where it doesn't go too dark where it's
like scary, like kids can't watch it like it. It kind of teeters
along those lines, and especially like when when you meet the parakeets, like
those are like villains after our hero, but like you hear like George Dave
Batista's voice on the and like it's just it's so goofy and it's kind of
hard to take it too seriously, but at the same time, like it
is a good villain there. So I guess, you know, obviously I
have my own biases for sure coming into it. I think going into the
movie, I knew it was going to be at least like a four out
of five five out of five. I think I was just so so hyped
for it. But yeah, that would probably be my pitch at the end
of the day. There, I'm just yeah, I'll back it. I'm
banging it for now. You all right? So he's making all right,
Taylor, what movie did you make your own watch? I made everyone watch
Granit a well. I've I accepted that this was not gonna win Best Picture,
and obviously some of these characters in this are castings. We're not gonna
win in their respective categories either, But I really wanted you guys to watch
it because I thought there was a chance they would have an effect on you
guys like it had on me, or in the sense that it was just
completely It caught me off guard. I thought this movie was going to be
just a real cheeseball adaptation of a video game, like oh very basically,
yeah, this guy plays real games. We're gonna make him a race car
driver. But for me, I was not expecting to get a lot more
passionate for a main character. David Harbor was fantastic. I will totally agree
that Lando Bloom was there just for paycheck. You don't know what the fuck
Orlando Blue is doing in this movie. I saw it in Circular Discord.
I describe it as a guy when you watch SNL and you know guy or
gal and they are always looking at the que cards like they're not prepared.
There's something is off about him in this movie where he's there is acting and
not acting at the same time. It's like he just this, my line's
okay, great, and he walks. It's just it's something I'm fascinated and
I want him to do this in like an Ari Astro movie or something like.
I wanted to bring this bad acting to something really crazy. I thought
he was good. I thought he was I don't know. I don't know
where this is coming from. I think the writing for the character pretty boring,
like there isn't much to chew on there. But I thought he was
fine. I uh surprised me that you guys are so negative on him.
I mean, even back to The Lord of Learning's Red Show, we were
like, we talked about we had a whole discussion on that, like is
Orlando Bloom a good actor? That was a whole like mini segment. Yeah,
but I think this settled the debate for me. I agree. I
feel like now he doesn't have that hotkey factor like he used to back in
the Will Turner days, back in the Legless Days. So it's it's just
like, definitely the writing does not help him by any means. But I
think also going into it, I didn't really know what his character was,
Like, I thought he was a lot more on the racing side of it,
not so much just like being a marketing guy. And we just didn't
really get a lot of positive moments between him and like our protagonists. So
it's just but then he's a complete shit bag too, That's the thing.
They just like exactly. There feels like even though this movie is two hours
and fourteen minutes, it feels like there is ten minutes missing with him.
But didn't didn't need that though, I don't need that bonus edition with those
more Orlando scenes. But yeah, there were just many different things that were
happening that were just curveballs the story that I wasn't expecting, whether it be
certain accidents, deaths, all that kind of stuff, and just like,
wow, I appreciated how intense those fallout moments got and the bounce back from
that. I think I've become more of a sucker for that kind of storyline,
whether it's like Air, whether it's Tetris, those kind of like those
bait I do like when they I wasn't expecting it, obviously, though this
is very much flamboyantly Hollywood eyes for the cinema, But just the fact that
it had certain things based on a true story, I thought that was very
cool and so I'm I definitely appreciate how this movie did things. So it
was a surprise, Yeah, dyl On you back. And then so I
going into this movie, I had like incredibly low expectations, didn't care about
it at all, was not gonna watch it, but it was Taylor's picks.
I'm like, Okay, of course I'll check this out. Worse,
I was pleasant and surprised. I enjoyed the movie. I in the trailers,
man, there's no character I hated more of this year than who David
Harbor is in this movie. But by the end of it, I was
like, that's that was a good character, and like he actually nailed the
role. And I just I still hate the whole like gamer element that he's
really ragging on in it. But by the end of it, I was
really really into it. I thought there's some good scenes. I think the
movie is like too long. It easily could have cut a good chunk out
of there and it would have helped for the pacing. But for me also
like because I was watching the movie and Mudds was in the background and she
was like, is this based on true story? I'm like, oh,
no, it's not. And then when it like has that section at the
end it's showing the real guy that like that hit hard for me. I
was like, my god, this was actually real. I don't toward extent,
but that hit for me in a big way. I don't know if
there was that thing at the start of the movie and I just missed it
where it says based on a true story. If there was, I totally
missed it. So I was pleasant in this prize. I thought it was
a solid movie and there's some really really good scenes or really well aheaded it
really well done. It's not gonna be and you're not gonna get my backing
for it, but it was way better than I expected. It's just my
expectations were so low that it you know, it's still not in that top
echelon. So they I will say, Taylor, I'm glad you made me
watch this one. I'm glad I watched it. That's that's a W in
my book. So right, without the knoms, I'll call the opposite because
I'm not I'm not glad you made me watch this is I when I got
it on vodcause we can write stuff off. So I'm I'm watching here and
I pause it a moment, I say, two fourteen. I could not
believe it this I know Kirkland has a similar review. This felt like a
fid lower the rings asque, like there's multi times I pause my I still
have an hour fifteen to go, Like it felt like so much happened and
so little happened at the same time. And I've said this before, right,
it's tough where it's just like I feel like it'd be like if I
recommended all you guys because I didn't do our Iron Claw, but if it's
like, oh, you guys gotta watch those wrestling documentaries, and I'm like,
I don't like cars, I don't like car racing, I don't care
about cars. So it's like, this is not the audience for me.
So already Taylor was on uphill battle and I think for me, it's just
kind of a movie you've seen multiple times, of course, not the whole
like the gamer aspect, which I agree with Dylan. It's like the same
reason why I don't like The Big Bang there. I hate just certain ways
of just like the gamers and this and that and blah blah, like it
just it. I don't know, it's not not my cup of tea.
Uh. And yeah, I know they do some events, but for me,
it just kind of comes out of nowhere. Even like the comeback story
to like what the tragy is, I don't really feel like it's earned.
I think, oh, you just need something for this character to overcome because
everything's going well. And maybe that part happened in the true story. It
just was the it's weird. It was the pacing of that. Where again
the stuff that takes a while, it's not so much the story stuff.
I guess it is the racing. And I don't think there was any scenes
that stood out. I think David Harbor was good. I was happy to
see Farley in there from Saltburn because I didn't know that because when I saw
all the trailers for Grantarismal, this guy was nobody, and then now he's
like, oh, that's cool. So he's in Bo's Afraid to right a
minute, Yeah, and I have seen bous right since I was like,
I looked up as I'm like, na, this guy is having a good
year. And he was in something else too, so h yeah, not
my cup of tea. And even if it was not a couping in tea,
I don't think he did anything that would warrant maybe if it was a
very weaker year. But I can't. I can't back Grandarismo. Yeah,
I'll jump on that train like this one I was gonna watch like no matter
what. I did. Actually like the trailer, I think all of as
you guys have already said, like the gamer things like oh, you're just
a gamer, you don't belong out here like that just out of shape and
you got like some guy fucking by sah, he's like he's in better shape
than I. But like I felt like all of those little like snippets were
also pulled from the trailer. And I had seen that trailer like quite a
few times from just going to the movies, and it was just before movies
I was seen, so having those in the movie like it just really it
was expired by the time that I had even seen it in there. I
thought David Harbor was was pretty good. I think he's just when he is
in that type of category of this, like somewhat asshole, but then he
turns around and being like really nice. That's just that's a David Harbor thing.
So Harbor yeah, and like yeah, exactly, like like he does
that really well. So I thought that was good. I already kind of
talked about Orlando Bloom. I thought the lead was quite good. It helps
that, of course, like I'm coming off Seltburn, so I had already
kind of I actually didn't notice who like that that was Farley until about halfway
through the film, And I don't remember if you guys were talking about in
the discord or something, but it definitely just kind of slipped my mind.
I'm like, why does he look so familiar but different at the same time.
It's just because that Farley hair is so much larger than the hair that
he has in this film. But yeah, I know, I thought.
What kind of doom me though, was the fact that I was actually quite
hype to see this and I just think this is quite middle of the road.
Yeah, I guess what would you call it? Underdog story there you
go, and like the real life stuff that is interesting. I do like
these types of like racing, especially like the event film type ones where they're
going to like just tracks and stuff that I would at least recognize being a
you know, big f one fan. So I thought leading into like the
Lamon's race that was getting really exciting. It was reminding me of like Ford
versus Ferrari. But yeah, it just a lot of the dialogue between certain
characters I think just kind of fell flat for me, and a lot of
it just yeah, I think we could have cut not a lot of this
film, but like twenty minutes maybe and just closer to that two hour mark.
I was also really hoping for more of the father son dynamic. Yes
I never know the actor's name, but yeah, so we were talking about
him. We were talking about him in Rebel Moon and how he always kind
of plays this similar type character of this like badass just gladiator who can like
not necessarily gladiator, but just a badass type character. And here he's like
so different from that. He's he's very vulnerable at moments, he gets really
emotional with his son, and I just felt like we didn't get enough of
those scenes, so I was kind of looking forward to that, and the
fact that we didn't get, in my opinion, enough of that, it
just kind of brought my enjoyment down a little. I agree, he kind
of disappears for a while, you know, Yeah, I do too,
Yeah, yeah, I feel like he goes away, like there's a middle
portion where I wanted some more between the two, or even more him and
his wife together, and just feels like Jamon Hunts wasn't available that day,
so he missed like his second act. You know. It was funny too,
because his his wife in the film, that's Ginger Spice. If you
didn't recognize, I didn't old Spice girl. The only reason why I knew
that is because she's married to Christian Horner, who's one of the team leads
in F one. So like, right away, I'm like, why the
hell is she in this? That's so weird. She's not even like an
actress for it, Like I don't think she's been in anything, so I
guess just the racing ties than this. But yeah, right away, I'm
like, that just stands out there. You go, Sorry, Hitler,
It's all good. I expected it, all right, Tay, We'll let
you you start the next round robin because you know you you one put away.
So what would be your next contender to throw out there for best film
of the year, Best film? Uh, Maddie's gonna love this, Oppenheimer,
it's gotta be in there. I'll back it. I'll back it,
I'll pack it. Were you big openhemer fan tailor? I felt like you,
it's my number one. Okay, Wow, it just took you a
while to see it. He showed his cards. He showed his cards.
Nothing grand to take down. He's like, I don't care. Yeah,
now we know what to leveraged Taylor on if we want to get a pick
in there. I don't know if I'm negotiable negotiable? All right, Dyaling,
what's your next let's contend that I'll bring this up. I think this
was the front runner for the first few months. It was like, I
think the first like big movie of the year. I'm gonna go with John
Wick Chapter four, absolutely big back Taylor audio. Remember oh yeah, that
thing go that. It's a nice little backup finger for it. You guys
didn't record any of this, t all right, Kirkland, what's what's next
up for you? Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go freaky. Let's
get Evil Dead Rise in there. Any Evil Dead Rise fans? Yeah,
back of that, back up. I was gonna say, for anyone who's
never listened before, we don't normally take thirty minutes to talk about more because
that was just because of our our nominee picks. But yeah, because like
the majority of these now are ones that we've had reviews for on the feeds
for right, So that's why that that's kind of our you know, make
goods. So all right, I want to I wanna because I feel like
this is a big still knows what I'm going. I want to because I
feel like, for the disc whatever, I think this is a big elf
in the room because I want to see where it goes. Uh, Barbie,
I want to throw Barbie. I'm backing definitely. I'm not backing.
Okay, remember that later, Alplaheimer, remember that later. That's surprising to
you though, I mean, like I actively don't like the movie. I
know you didn't. I thought still there's still but he I feel like you
just backed you back Saltburn, which is a lower score than Barbie. Yeah,
that's where those letter box. So I feel like I'm I have the
right, but that's fine. I would throw it out there, but I'm
trying to use my letterbox against me. No, I'm just saying that's why
he doesn't even understand it. Yeah, I thought, like, you need
more than two people, and you didn't. You didn't have it. So
they're like, I think there's there's parts of that that I would vote for
in other categories, not best Film. I have a couple of categories for
sure, just production, songs, acting, but that's fine. Physically killed
me for those songs. Just no cret of fans here, I guess no
women fans. Look, they're all giving us films that are directed by I
hate that movie, all right, Taylor round, I'm gonna sneak in across
the Spider verse. I'll back it. That's a big one to type,
so someone else can go while I do that. What else did I get
here? Uh? Dylan? Did you see Godzilla Minus one? I can't
rememd it not. It was the last one on my list, and since
it was only in theaters, I just didn't have time. Unfortunately, Okay,
I would back it. Well, are you putting it up there or
not. Yeah, it cloud, I just guess, I guess Taylor will
I was kind of hoping that was gonna be Taylor's pick, so he would
have added a force still the seed in time. But back up, Oh,
you're being very coy there, we got grand Tarismo, Dylan, Are
you ready to do a submission? I mean we also do for anyone who
doesn't know, we do the MCU Golden Geeks where we just specifically talk about
MCU, but guardans the Galaxy Volume three. I think it deserves to be
here too. I back that. Yeah, I'll back up for now.
Yeah, it's a very coy a year so far, and this is very
coy. Ye you're the KOI Lunar New Year. Oh boy, Like I
don't think I have any more that I even feel like all the ones I
feel it, Yeah, like all the ones I feel like I would throw
out would just be that I know right away when we get to the like
the bottom go yeah, I get the rid of that. So it's just
like I don't because I know Kirkling, I'll fill this out because I don't
know what Dylan liked, and I don't think it doesn't matter. I would
have thrown out bottoms, but dyn't just start on letterbox. I didn't know.
You didn't give me a rating, so I didn't know what. We've
never had a comedy in this best film category, and we're not going to
love that movie. Kurricle is not Back. And then I didn't see it,
So you didn't like it? K not funny of you? No,
Like I think there was definitely aspects that were funny. It's the actual directal
directorials, directoral direction direction. Guess just kind of like I think I caught
me off guard and for some reason that didn't push me in the right direction.
I was just kind of like, what is going on here? And
very kooky and sometimes I really like that, but this time not so much.
I don't know. Maybe on another viewing, I'll see it higher.
But that's a fantastic movie that was in my top ten this year. Fantastic.
Everyone go see it's on Amazon Prime. Oh yeah, I gave the
movie a perfect score. I that's a Travis that's like similar to me,
like Barbie Zoolander. I love when a movie finds a tone, they lock
into it and they just ride with that the whole time. I love Senate,
I love aoing out because I'm watching the Bear so lots of Yeah,
that was a great time for me. I was surprised. I really liked
the end, the beginning, the middle, yeah yeah, the football that
oh man so like the humor with the football dudes like that. That never
worked for me. I was just from like the get go with that one
guy. I forget his name, but yeah, yeah, but yeah,
that's it for me. All the other ones, Like I said, I
would just I would downvote, just kind of right away, like, I
just don't think there's anything that is the caliber of what we already have.
But I'm willing to hear pitches. I mean, I have a bunch more
to show it out Indiana Jones and DIALD Destiny Indiana Jones fans in the House
fan Jones I am, but not to these films comparative. Okay, we'll
try and take my turn. I have a bunch more here. But who
else has got stuff? I guess KIRKLM. Taylor, do you guys have
more? Like I do have a couple, but they're kind of in that
realm that Travis was leaning out that I feel like they're very not strong to
make it through. But I'll pitch them Teenage MUTANTNINSH Turtles, Mutant Mayhow I'm
backing it. I'm not a team into you guys, So I don't know
if it would have had my vote. Vision No, I won't back it
closer than I thought it would, So I'm happy with that. I always
slide in Mario, bros Here, you absolutely not, absolutely not no k
the quality you didn't do Barbie. I'm happy Kirklan is not doing Mario.
That's just like Mario, let Barbie go. Okay, that's gonna Dylan,
and I promise you at one point tonight, Tayo's gonna need my vote,
and I'm gonna be like you remember Barbie. And that's no. Mario is
just a fucking like it's an advertisement movie, Okay, It's just like it's
YouTube clips put together the stream together for an hour and a half. There's
no story, Barbie, and like Hasbro or Mattel whatever, there's a story
there about womanhood. And even Hasbro learns a lesson. Mario learns nothing,
Peach learns nothing. They just beat bat learn nothing. Mario's gone, Mario's
gone. Next one I might there's a chance I get Taylor and kirkl On
in this one. I know what you're doing. Yeah, total, yeah,
Yeah, Honestly, the more I see that movie, I like it
more. It gets better. Every time I would have backed it. I
don't know. I was excluded. That's okay, No, not at all.
I gave you like a four out of file letter box could be higher.
Okay, no one has a chance. Then, interesting, let's see
Taylor. You got any more over there? Ah? I mean I throw
Tetris out, but I feel like that's never gotten around to it. Unfortunately,
so I started it, never finished it. Yeah, did you see
Travis? Yeah, it was fine. I wouldn't put it. It's like
a same thing. Gave it like a four or five, but not nowhere
near this seschelon. It's just like a well acted directed by the Numbers biopic
or something. This this one kind of surprised me. I actually quite enjoyed
it, and I never planned to see it, but I actually quite liked
to talk to me, I'm a great one. Great is the best film
for me. That's what I'm going are we we're still doing the horror kind
or that we talked about, right, we have a super horror category.
Okay, I forgot that. I'll take that back then, that's fine,
it's fine you both. Yeah, it wasn't in both. It was not
even before we had the horror category. It wasn't quite in that. Tay,
where were you on it? Uh? Talk to me, I'd not
seen it, okay, so that it doesn't matter. Yeah, okay,
okay, fair enough. I think you like it, Taylor. It's good
right now. I think I think it is on Netflix. Now there's another
one come out. I gotta get around there. Watching this very last shot
is primo great stuff, man, Definitely, we're making a last shot category.
Yeah, what about my saw boys here? Saw ten? No?
I love Tolbyn, but I'd back it. I'd back that. No,
we need not applicable for me. Okay. I don't know if there's any
other ones I have that are actually gonna go anywhere, but I'll shout them
out. Which did anyone see Asteroid City? No? No? I never
did. No one saw it? Hey maybe if if I maybe I thought
you guys had seen it. It weren't vibing it as much. But I
really loved that movie. It was super fun. Also Past Lives. I
mean, this is like kind of like an Oscar, very oscary sort of
movie. I think Travis has seen it. Maybe my favorite movie the year
honestly was Wow. Yeah, great movie. Yeah yeah, shout out to
fair Play. That movie was also way more fun. I thought it would
be fun, but it was even more fun than I expected. Somehow what's
her name there, she's going to be a big star or whatever in another
category. Yeah, and then my last one here, I don't think any
of you guys have seen this Wonka. I fucking loved Wonka on Ironically,
I think I gave it a five out of five on the letterbox. Fantastic
And Taylor, you never you never followed through with our bet, with our
promise to each other. We got more Christmases to record on. Yeah,
I'll get back to you next week because I think mean the kids will see
it net weeks because it's on vod now. But yeah, I've heard good
things. But yeah, I just didn't get around me away made me cry.
Would that have been your pick? The music was good? Visually,
it's just super fun, great characters, everything is just a masterpiece. Would
that have been your pick? Before? Poor things? You think? I
don't know. I just don't know if it would have hit as well.
Like I try and pick one that I think is gonna really deliver on a
lot of categories, and I I could see Travis, I could see you
being a walka hater. I will recommend Dylan. I don't know if you've
seen have you seen any of the Paddington movies? I have not same director.
You should, and I hear it's very similar to Tone. I've never
seen the Paddington movies, so I don't know. I have no I'm not
really in one lane or other than the director. It's that's been the category
big. I gotta see them, so I'd highly recommend because most people that
love that we were like they are padd it in stand so I don't let
the just the animated bear turn you off. Give it a chance. I
think I'm okay. Then I think the only one, the one that I
was going to shout out that I would it was my pick before Saltburn came
out, was Sanctuary. That's the Martin quality one. I really liked that
one. I was going to fight for Best Actress, but I had to
go Saltburn and stuff, which sucks. I feel like everyone would have eventually
watched Saltburn because it became such a meme. But you know, hmm,
that's hows the card. I don't see Sanctuary. I did watch it.
I don't like that much. I'm sorry. Oh man. I thought I
would have because I'm a big quality head, and based on everything you said
about it, maybe she's fantastic, But I think the story just didn't do
it for me the end. But oh man, all right, that's it.
We got our contenders, then, I think. So I thought the
listen would be bigger this year, but the last we have. The listen
we have. Okay, So we have for the contenders, poor thing Saltburn,
the boy in the hair in Oppenheimer, John Wick, Chapter four,
Eviled Rye, Spider Man Across the Spider Verse, Got'sill minus one, Guardian
Galaxy Volume three, Dungeons, Dragon's Honor among Thieves. So it's usual.
Yeah, it's a variety of list Yeah, so as usual. Do you
want to start locking or start dropping? Drop a lock at fool? Well,
I'll start with a question I have for you guys, spoiler for John
Wick. For anyone has that's seen that yet, be careful here. So
I love that movie, and I still do. But when we got confirmation
afterwards that he's not actually dead. That really hurts the movie for me and
makes it a lot less impactful. So there's not I don't think it's confirmation
yet. I think it's still just a back and forth. No, it's
like a Lion's Gates says there's gonna be a John Wick five, but I
think director and Keanu always like, oh, you never know what the story
could be. So I mean that just the flates it a bit, but
it is still very, very solid. So I'm not saying abouts the cut
or a lock at the moment. I just I mean, you've now you've
inflated me a bit because I thought that was like a confirmed thing. So
yeah, no, it's not confirmed confirmed. I think for me, for
the it it's tough because maybe I'm wrong. If it gets in the five,
I don't see it winning. So I don't think i'd have an issue.
I think I would have an issue if it gone in the five to
one and then years later they did John Wick five. I think what the
quality is now. I still would even if he was alive. I think
it would maybe hurt it a bit, but I still think i'd be comfortable
with it being a potential five as far as this list that I'm looking at,
I think that's one that is up there for me in the in the
top five phenomenees, that's one that for just everything you know, that doesn't
really have any acting noms, but just the scale that like I said,
there's not many like epic actions and I don't mean like epicroy, but just
mean like a huge scope and epic. That movie's beautiful to score. So
I think for me that's still in the five even if you were alive.
I don't think it. I don't know if it would win, but it's
still strong enough as a base that it floats it up. It definitely checks
a bunch of boxes, like even in different categories for me that I like,
not necessarily like best actor acting, but just the characters in it are
just so memorable, and I think there's so many aspects of that film that
do stand out, especially if that is like the end of his story,
like it just it felt like such a great conclusion. And yeah, so
that one is quite high for me right now. Okay, Okay, well,
my I guess my other question is I've not seen Godzilla. Do you
guys think that's a top fiver because I think it'd be helpful for me if
you guys made that decision. Now very potentially, I have to see what's
on there. But it's yeah, it's it's it's in my top ten overall,
and yeah it's it's quite a good film. See, I would say
it's a key for me. I want to respond back to you, tail
Dan, because we said all your names there together, so you go,
because I want to get the vibe room. Where are you going across the
Spider verse? Okay, we don't know your thoughts at all on the podcast.
I was very disappointed in that movie. I saw that letterbox guys like,
oh we got a conversation, let me down, And that breaks my
heart in a way because I love Spiderman and I love that first movie so
much, and I know you guys love this movie. I know I feel
like Kirklen and Taylor for like most of the year, even like that's my
movie the year. I wish I could be there with you. But yeah,
it really didn't work for me. I guess quickly to what to say
about I mean, one, I don't really feel like it has a conclusion
that's satisfying. It is like a Part one Part two situation, So that's
fair enough. I felt like twenty ninety nine was like a pretty weak villain
for me. I didn't really like the supporting cast. I didn't feel like
they were really with Miles at any point. That didn't really work. And
I think that's supposed to be what part two is about. But instead I
watched this like almost three hour long movie where they weren't really driving together.
I don't know, there was just none of it. Nothing was really that
great for me. There was just a bunch of mediocrity in it. I
don't know, but I'm not even like passionately hate or something. It just
I was just a letdown. Yeah, okay, so just because I'm gonna
counter this one, not the movie, I'm gonna counter for another suggestion because
when I'm look at this list, so far my theme and I could be
wrong. That's what I'm gonna ask about this movie next. I feel like
a lot of these movies I see three people walking but not four, Like,
I don't think there's too many on here that are like a four across
the board. So I want to ask Kirkland, where are you on Oppenheimer
and your ranking because I remember I don't think you were the same as Across
the Spider Verse with Dylan, but I remember when we did a review,
you were a lot more down on it than me and Dylan. So I
wasn't sure what time if it has gone any other way. Again, again,
it's not like, oh, I'm asking to lock Oppenheim right now.
I'm just saying, because that's another one where like I feel like I know
okay, So like Across Spider versus Dilan's out on that saltburn, I feel
like tears out on that. There's movies where I go with Oppenheimer. I
just don't know where you are at it currently since the summer. Funny enough,
I don't know what it is. Actually I do know what it is
because I recently went through the the Nolan trilogy for Batman, and just seeing
Killian Murphy in there, it just made me think about this movie, like
Oppenheimer, and and there's aspects of it that I really liked that I like
even more now that I kind of stew on it, and there's there is
things that I didn't like about it, which again like it's not really fair
to show the movie on this, but I had like expectations on certain elements
that just weren't even talked about. But it's like a historical drama like it,
Like I don't know why I had these expectations in my mind, but
I definitely did so well. There's altso people that have that, like even
Crystal and Saw with Spike leaving. So you didn't like show this, this
and this, and he goes, oh, I went this around stuff.
I just the way you were. I like when you said, now,
at first of me, it sounds like because you watched The Dark Night it
was so great, Like, oh Man Oppenheimer is really good. Yeah,
the bombs and those just really pair level way yeah. No, but like
this this is one that actually the more I stew on it, like I
do like it more and more. And even from when I first saw it,
like I just knew the quality of what the film was, like I
was able to recognize at least the performances and just the scale, like the
scale of all these moving pieces when they have like the like the town that
they make to just get get this project going, and like so many big
names in this and I feel like they all pretty much have moments to shine,
like on their own so I definitely think this is a really top tier
quality film. Is a top five though just my personal rating it, it
wasn't in my like I think I maybe had it at ten on my my
twenty twenty three list, but it was it was pretty close. Yeah,
I'm looking at right now, it was close with the TMNT. I was
almost putting TM and T above that. So for that reason, I feel
like, I don't know, maybe maybe I'm not super strong and locking it
right now, especially just looking at like the other ones on this list right
now, that's just what I want to check because I feel like that was
the only one I see on here that would be like a potential maybe lock.
But if you're like, if it's still in debate territory, that's fine
to leave it, I'll counter you with what I think is a guaranteed lock.
I don't know, maybe not, but I thought Poor Things was like
gonna be an absolute lock, just with how crazy elements are in there that
I feel like kind of hit our barometer, especially like the Willhem de Fons
of it. I think it has visuals that are just on another level,
and of course the performances are just phenomenal. Obviously I'm a stone being the
big front runner there. Taylor, you want to sprawn onto that counter.
Is that an absolute lock for you? It's not an absolute lock for them.
That's why. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was like, I know
Taylor passed it, but I didn't get the vibe of like, you know,
this is an automatic lock for him. So Travers, Are you a
lock on Poor Things? Oh? Wow? I think so. I don't
like to review. I don't want to be like tam my number one movies
up on our because then you know there's certain because there's certain things on here
I'm not a lock for and I don't want to beyond. So I could
be persuaded into a lock, but it's it's on the higher end. I'll
say Poor Things for sure. I loved the movie, So okay, let's
go the other run. Is there anyones on here that are like, like,
okay, I'll see don't for Spider Verse, I know US three or
are Heart? Is there any other movies that are like a Kick or go
ahead of Kirk with the Boy and the heron. Obviously that's my boy,
but like Taylor is never going to back that, and I I had to
really spill my guests just to get you two on board. So we need
to let that heron go. I think we need to let the heron go.
I'm glad it at least made an appearance on here. It's yeah talking
about studio Ghibli, So that's fantastic. Then you get rid of it.
I wouldn't vote to get rid of it yet. But if you three at
the blow are there, so you don't got to get rid of it yet,
Kirkland. But that's okay. I just you know, it's still gonna
be a long night. I'm just saying, you know, but all right,
Yeah, I guess I'm throwing away my negotiating chips movie. Yeah.
I wasn't voting to it yet that case next, so I think it was
it was going to happen. Uh are you guys? Top five level and
Evil Dead Rise? I think I was the lowest on the movie on the
review. I don't think it's really really good. It just for me,
it's definitely not the best film contender. Where are you guys out on that
one? It could be for out of what I'm seeing here, there's ones
that I had put it above. Yeah, there are other ones that I
would put above it. What's the lower back right now? What are some
of these one of these low balls here? I know you guys like it,
and I know I'm just gonna go into like the what was said before,
But like I do like Dungeons and Dragons, but I just think that
all these not maybe not all, but majory This list on a filmmaking level
is like I think, to me, there's movies on here that are enjoyable
of like a good favorite movie, and then there's also they're the exact same
movies like Assault, Burnaport, things Offenheim that just from a filmmaking level are
fantastic. You know, I think Dungeons Dragons is a good time, but
like I don't think it's like a better time than Guardians, which is that's
what it's like riffing off of right, It's like a medieval Guardian. So
that's my thing where I still like the movie, but it's out of this
list. That is for sure my bottom for uh favoritism. And also just
like filmmaking wise, m hmmm, one is that my lower end just just
looking at some of these big dogs in there. I I love that film,
but you know, you bring up some good points. So just filmmaking,
Taylor, what's your bottom bottom of the stack right now? The bottom
of the stack. It's one of those top two. I'm sure it's definitely
the second one. Like Evil Dead is there at the bottom. It's in
the bottom stack. It's not at the very I was surprised. I feel
like I said, going Dale asked that you said it was in the top
stack. So he's all over the place right now. You get a look
at his letter box. Oh, it's actually bottom. Because I know what
my I know what my five are. We all know what our five are,
but that we don't get our five. I'm already down a five.
I didn't you make it, I'd i'd probably say Spider Verse boot What that
is not track with what you had said on like the review and everything.
That's crazy, like you you'd boot Spider Verse before Salt Burn and poor things
for you? M hm, that makes no sense. You gave Spider Verse
a ten out of ten. Those other those other projects, I need them
to be here for a little bit longer. I don't like. Yeah,
he's just trying to keep that. You guys got fuel for you if you
want your stuff to get up. Spider Versus an easy, easy kick at
this point. I'm not ready just throwing a few guys up there if you
want. Okay, what is five here? Definitely not saying goodbye to Spider
Man right now. So because it goes down to it, I could do
evil dead, Yeah I would. I should go at this point, like
we have a horror category, so I'm not as committed to fight for it
here. Yeah, but like still things can rise above, you know,
but if you're at the bottom, you're at the bottom, and Taylor and
Dylan's there's no way to make it five at this point if we're all I
don't think so now, so you could kick it now, so see your
rise goodbye? Sorry Bobs, what about I mean? I'm happy to lock
poor things are Saltburn just once again throwing some chips on the table here.
I like for the people the patron Saltburn is a lock. You know.
There's a lot of numbers, Like when you go to our letterbox you look
at the GV fans Other than CLA, there's a lot of five stars there.
Like, yes, definitely, I feel like I have to I got
my Jacob alert. You don't have to candle for my birthday, so I'm
happy with that that movie. I just can't believe how much it's like blown
up in the sense of like, if I recommend this movie to someone and
they've already seen it, I love just hearing their takes or their reactions on
it. Some people just love it. Some people are like, I cannot
believe I watched that X y Z. Scenes, you know, just completely
blew their mind or disgusted them. And it's just such a good conversational type
movie to have, and I'm so glad I saw it for that reason.
Came out the third last week of December, and it still to me is
like the most talked about movie, which I think is pretty impressive to very
impressive, especially since it made ten bucks at the box box. It was
just me It's what people were there, freebies. I feel like, if
someone really like loves that movie and I'm able to talk to him about it,
I just bond like so much with them. They maybe we don't have
much in common, but if they just if they're salt Burner, salt Burner,
you know, they stand out in the crowd. Okay, saltburn has
been locked. There you go, patrons. Heay, I was just scared
about that patron vote. What's gonna happen there? He's so frightened. I
know Saltburn's gone it. Well, I just because with this and when I
look at it, all depends on the voting, right, Because I'll say
this, like last year, I had the Batman vote number one, and
I still went for everything over all once for my final vote. But like
a lot of our patrons, I look at their letter of box list,
Saltburn is number one, So it has to be last year for what Batman
cat? Yeah, because it came down to Batman everything over we all once?
Yeah. Yeah, well it's two years ago, but it was on
the last Sorry. Sorry, that's insane to me. It feels so long
ago. Now we need that one right now. Okay, I feel like
I've given you guys a lot. I'm gonna be honest. I need to
work with me here. I'm like, I'm I'm not really ready to lock
more until I see Dungeons and Dragons go and then I'm ready to lock one.
But I'm not comfortable with that being a top five. Still, what's
your number one right now? I mean, I I would be happy to
lock poor things right now, or I think honestly, I think I'm okay
to lock John Wick. Maybe I'm on that another option I could consider right
now. I'm on that caravan with you. I I also love Oppenheimer.
I don't know. For some reason, I don't feel like the fire burning
inside made a fight for it. But it's fantastic. Like if someone made
a pitch right now, I'd probably lock it. That's It's kind of how
I'm feeling. But uh, I gotta pitch. I gotta pitch because Taylor,
it's your number one movie, right yeah, and I got I got
passion in my it finally took down Tetris and is the movie the year for
your end? Yes? Okay, Okay, Dylan, this is gonna I
don't know if he saw what I are you reading? I got hope feeding
Ducks. I got deep and heavy here, So this is gonna is gonna
hit hit the Do you want me to close my eyes or no? No?
No, no, you keep your eyes open. Closure eyes, ship,
I'm gonna cal That's that. Stair's letterbox review. Seldom does a film
really cause impact? Seldom the man who watches fifty the man who watches fifteen
new movies a year, seldom does a fill goddamn and entertainment over messaging a
lackluster excuse for cashing on people's cinematic cravings makes me happy that individuals like Nolan
sheoose powerful meetings and or instruments. I will be a minor major, but
factored in nonetheless to his films. This film needs a heavy heart. While
not one hundred percent of so historically accurate, it establishes a rather unfortunate but
familiar paradigm and humanity, one that will always weigh me down upon every time
I rewatched this incredible film. The cast list is fantastic, the intensity is
cautionary, and the unfolding narrative serves as are reminder to humankind for years to
come and hopeful, jen hopefully generations to come regarding the depravity of humanity.
I would absolutely recommend this film time and time again, and I'm ready to
lock it as long as like we don't have to worry about cur You were
check on undred percent me. I wrote that as soon as I finished watching
the movie, I just I felt it was channeled through you and the armchair
there. I'm ready to lock it if we kick one movie, but I'm
not I'm not locking it yet, oh, I said. If we if
you three agree with me and to kick dungeons, I'll lock Oppenheimer right now.
That's my pitch. If not, then I'm staying off Oppenheim or lock.
Let me let me let me ask you this, Kirkland, kirk do
you see a future where D and D is locked in top five is?
If not? If you do not, then I will agree with what Travis's
argument is or case. Kirkland said was worn near the bottom earlier. So
I donut. Yes, you don't see it, okay, then I would.
I would agree to remove it, to lock up and I right,
Oppenheimer's locked gravity remind me of like worm tongue with that type of speech.
You have you you wanna watch op and I'm again no, you have five
movies left, poor things. I'm happy with any of these. Godzilla and
Guardians volume three, so we need to we're gonna be locking three more of
those or two cuts however, you're gonna love it. I was gonna say,
I'm down to be bold and must all throw our stuff on the cuts
or the locks, whatever, because I'm happy with any of these combinations.
I have one I prefer there's two. I prefer to be in the top.
For me, it's like the top four I've wanted I can see,
and in the fifth slot, I'm it's a three way tie between them.
So I'm pretty lucy goosey here. I'm happy with these ones. I'll ask
this again now that we're deeper into this, but where we have with Godzilla?
Just once again, I haven't seen it, and I need I have
to put all my faith in you guys on this. That's fun. Damn
that's gonna be. If that's gonna be one of the five, then that
takes away a lot of my spots. You know, I really got to
think about that. I would I want it? Then not much I can
do about it, because I really I don't know how to like phrase this
without giving away too much. But like, where does it compare the bottom
three for Kirkleintech, because guys have seen Godzilla? Where does Godzill compare to
those two? For Spider Man and then Guardians? Oh, Godzilla Godzill versus
Spider Man and Guardians leaving poor things in John Wake out for now? Fuck,
I I think it's below all of them. I had my ranking would
be across it would be what's on the screen across Godzilla Guardians that'd be my
ranking, and what would you be on those three? I'm kind of split
between Godzilla, Guardians and then Spider Verse last. You can't split on the
and then Godzilla and Guardians. I feel like I would say I'm just gonna
say Godzilla number one, but I could be swayed for Guardians to pass it.
So us three dealing all the different number one so they can help you
out my theory. I was hoping one of us would be the other way.
Okay, so let's see. I'm down to lock john Wick chapter four.
I think we're all instinct there right, like who's out? Who else
is holding? Like? What else? Dylan are you holding on that you
need to be locked? First? I think it's poor things. I'm scared.
I'm scared of Godzilla sneaks in there and we do get quick. There's
only one more spot for Yeah, a good point and yep, that's very
getting tricky. Yep, god So I'll tell you that if we lot poor
things, I'll lock John Wick. Where are you going to lock on poor
things? Yeah? It's below Spider Man and John Wick right now? So
I'm like, I'm hesitant to lock it for that reason, because you know,
if we get poor things to John Wick, all of a sudden,
Across is on the chopping block, and that's just that's scary. Taylor Locke
sualtburn before Across. You know, you never know what's gonna happen. I
know you never know. That guy negotiable. I say, unless everyone has
a pitch, then we do a stand for a stand still, we start
throwing some names on some movies and do process by elimination. Scary, Okay,
I'll over how many names, how many movies? Well, do we
want to do the kicks or the fours? Well? How about Dylan's worried
about this? Is anyone's super passionate about Guardians being in the top five?
Here, it doesn't sound like it so far. No, I out of
what's left, that would be my next kick. Definitely, let's get rid
of that. That makes everyone happier, right, we all get like more
chances for our favorite things. We affirms my position on Godzilla. Okay,
so Guardians is kicked out, so that now we only need got to kick
one. Well, that makes a lot easier, doesn't it. Yeah,
Well maybe maybe he does. Oh fudge, that's a tough one. I
know exactly which one should just be dropped from this list, which is me
too. Me and Dylan know, Me and Dylan know. I don't think
you guys, I don't want to do Kirkland too dirty here. I feel
I'm starting to feel bad at some point. I'm just surprised. I don't
know what Taylor is getting at. Where. Why are you trying to keep
four things over across? And I'm not saying I want to get rid of
poor things. It just doesn't track. No, I guess he's saying he
liked I guess because Kirkland. He's saying he likes Godzilla more than Spinable.
So that's his way to try and get it in travels. I'll ask you
that then, like, where's your Godzilla and Spider Man comparison there? Because
like right now, we could just kick Godzilla because we wouldn't have to back
to here. Here's never who cut Barbie? Remember that that wasn't too long
ago. Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. I'm not
kidding because here's where I am. Here's where I am. I'm a lot,
I'm a lock, I'm a lock for Poor Things in John Wick.
Those are my two that I that I'm the strong song. It's Dana,
Spider Man and Godzilla. And Kirkland's absolutely right because this Barbie, I would
put my chips on Spider Verse and if we got to do a patron poll,
so be it. Because yeah, definitely I definitely forgot about that.
So yeah, spider Verse out of Godzilla. So my three I'll show my
cards is poor Is that what happened? Yes? Me and Kurklar are kicking
Godzilla. I'm gonna be hounce what I was googling? What just looking at
Oppenheimer on this list, like did I spell that right? It just looked
that's fair. Yeah, so you're look wrong for something doesn't make sense.
Oh that just happened, Taylor, It's gone just like it. So you
agreed to kicking Godzilla? Dylan? Yeah, I mean I haven't seen it,
so I want It's almost like you should. You don't want it.
You don't want to plant neutral and like send it for send Spider Man Godzilla
to the patrons. It was a vote too dangerously close to poor Things not
making it. But poor Things is locked, and if you want to you'll
be locked, could consent to Gonzilla. To the patrons, you could do
you vote, isn't gonna be honest? I don't. That would be okay
with me. Yeah, let's do that. Let's have the people decide,
because I don't think they've ever decided the best film way Taylor or Kirkland.
What are you? Is getting done dirty? Potentially? Yeah, in that,
I think Across will get it. I think Across will get it because
if that's another one that I'm always because I saw Dylan's letterbox, then I
would look at the letter because I'm a guy that I prefer Spider Verse one
to two. But when I see the letter box, I think everyone just
fucking loves that over one. So but yeah, there you go. So
the nominees are Saltburn, Oppenheimer, Poor Things, john Wick Chapter four,
and then on the bubble is Spider Man, Across Spider Verse and godzill minus
one. You have to be a patron any tier, any tier you get
to vote. You're going to vote. This is the most important one ever
because we've never had a tie for best Film. There's been other ones,
but so you are going to decide between Spider Man and Godzilla you'll do the
votes, so I'm very curious see how this goes. It's gonna be great.
I don't know how Taylor just pulled out a safety net and Godzilla there,
but he did it, so I respect that play. That's still nowhere
because it's a vote though, kirkl and I still got to get him back
for Barbie because it's not so later on I'm going to fuck him again.
I got my Oppenheimer in there, so we're safe.