WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.639 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:11.119 fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio WIP just Surgery. 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:20.320 I on the Ball, boy, it's me right that Mike. For Steve 4 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:24.800 to say something, he's not here. Welcome back behind the Ball on Fox 5 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.960 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jay Gonzalez normally in the side Jair over there, 6 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:32.759 but Steve is out today and the Sammy's running things and ID know, Sam, 7 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:34.799 I don't put that on you. You didn't cue me to say something, 8 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.799 So welcome back. We've got Sammy here with breaking news. This is 9 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:47.079 Eye on the Ball, breaking news, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. That's new, 10 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.799 that's new. That's see. That's I'm off a little bit. Okay, 11 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.320 well yeah, okay. So we talked a little bit about Yukon, 12 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:58.640 the number one team in the country on the road at Creighton and they got 13 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.359 thumped Creting eighty five, Yukon sixty six. Some other top twenty five teams 14 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:07.120 were in action last night. Tennessee took care of business on the road against 15 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.599 Missouri. It was a little it was a little ugly, but again we 16 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.040 they're on the road. You win that game. Interesting thing there that the 17 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.319 new ad her kid plays from Missouri Way. That's why the press conference was 18 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.760 at nine o'clock in the morning. She could watch the game. So she 19 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.439 so, her kid was he was here, oh so, and and her 20 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.400 husband was here. So then they all flew back to get him there in 21 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.239 time for the game. Oh wow, he's a player the team. I 22 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.239 don't know if he plays or anything, but he's on the team. He's 23 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.200 on the team. So Tennessee squeaked one out. Baylor the eleventh, the 24 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.680 rank team in the country on the road at BUYU lost lost, seventy eight 25 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.959 seventy one. San Diego State nineteen threan team in the country on the road. 26 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:52.000 Utah State lost lost. Texas Tech took care of business by one point 27 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.760 at home against TCU, good game. And then San Francisco at Saint Mary. 28 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.640 Saint Mary's one of the hottest teams in the country. Actually they're first 29 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:05.200 in the WCC, which has been ran by Gonzaga the last however many years. 30 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.719 They squeaked it out without their leading score at home seventy to sixty six. 31 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:14.560 So an interesting night in college basketball last night and tonight. Some more 32 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.159 top twenty five teams on the road. Illinois, Duke, Florida, Dayton, 33 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:23.560 Kentucky, Colorado State all in the top twenty five on the road tonight. 34 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.680 So we'll see, you know, I'm gonna parlay just all the road, 35 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.639 the home team, all the home town in that one. I'm gonna 36 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:30.800 go. I'm gonna go big. I'm gonna go big on that. It's 37 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.879 tough because I don't know even this. This was a little bit later, 38 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:38.000 but some of these teams are kind of heavily favored on the road, right, 39 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.240 And so Illinois seven and a half, Duke seven and a half, 40 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.840 you have Dayton three and a half, and Kentucky six and a half, 41 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:52.599 all on the road, all favorites. It doesn't make a ton of sense, 42 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:54.599 but I guess Vegas knows way more than us. They do. They 43 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.879 do, and I've always thought that. But you know, again, as 44 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:00.400 you said, if we've learned nothing now, so we've learned the winning on 45 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:06.199 the road, particularly this year, is really damn hard, no matter who 46 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.520 you are and who you're playing. And I wrote it down, it's like 47 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.800 in theory, if you're so good, if you're one of the top twenty 48 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.520 five teams in the country. Sure, you should be able to go on 49 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:19.520 the road against a quote inferior team and come out with a win, but 50 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.280 that just hasn't necessarily been the case this year. Right It's you look at 51 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.439 Kansas's track record on the road and it's it's not good. And Kansas is 52 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.479 one of the best teams in the country. And Purdue on the road at 53 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:35.120 Ohio State just fired their coach. Dogfight, they lose, and they lose. 54 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.520 You come last night, it's it that was ugly. Did you see 55 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.680 Danny Hurley walking off the walking off the court, he turned it off. 56 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.439 He said something bad to a fan. He said something like all he didn't 57 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.759 say I'll kick your ass, but he said I'll knock your head off or 58 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.840 something like that. And he said something like that to a fan on the 59 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.560 way out. It runs in the Hurley blood. What can you say. 60 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.280 They are passionate about the players, their teams, and sometimes yeah, you 61 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.680 know, you just go yeah, okay, you know. And look, 62 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:11.479 I sit there at the Arizona games and I see I see Bobby Hurley and 63 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.479 he's uh, oh, he said, I will knock you out, you 64 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.519 know. And the stuff that our fans say to Bobby Hurley, and I'm 65 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.240 like, I wouldn't have. I got to respect him for the fact that 66 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.040 he just doesn't go up into the seats and wail on somebody, and in 67 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.000 fact, I know he has to hear it because they're right there, and 68 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.120 he just doesn't react to it. And you gotta have some respect for that. 69 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.199 No matter what you think of Bobby Hurley, what you think is a 70 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:40.959 crybaby where you hate the way he acts on the on the on the sidelines. 71 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.879 You know, you just don't like him because he went to Duke. 72 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.360 I mean, whatever the reason is, you certainly have to respect that. 73 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.920 When coaches come on, you know, come here like that and the fans 74 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:54.279 are on him, and look, I'm gonna say too, with the fans, 75 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.439 nobody cusses at him. Yeah, you know, they don't call him, 76 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.000 you know, no f bomb, but they chop at him all day 77 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.319 long, and they chop at them all day long, and it's it's you 78 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:05.680 know, packing, packing, pecking, packing, and to not react to 79 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.519 some of that stuff, you got to have a lot of respect for these 80 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.480 guys. I have a I have a question for you, who's more not 81 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:17.839 crazier or whatever, who's more animated Mick Cronan or Bobby Hurley. Bobby Hurley 82 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:24.160 is more animated, the arms flailing and and and stomping on the Mick Cronan 83 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.120 more serious, is serious and grouchy as all hell. Okay, you know, 84 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.240 Hurley gets upset. He's coaching his guys. He's flailing his arms, 85 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:38.360 he argues calls. You know there there were a couple of calls that I 86 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.319 and he rightly argued and then we're like, what the hell? There was 87 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:46.199 one where Ku Kyle Boswell goes into the lane and he slips. It was 88 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.439 a travel. It was clearly a travel, and they didn't call the travel 89 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.560 and he lost his mind over that. Three trips up and down the court. 90 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.000 He's still you on at the rift about that being a travel. That's 91 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.839 what Bobby Hurley does. Mick Cronan says things that you go, wow, 92 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.800 you shouldn't be able to say that to a referee, right he called He 93 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:08.000 called the you saw it. You can read his lips. He called the 94 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.839 referee in m effort in the in the in the Utah game the other night. 95 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.519 You don't do that. He can't. You know, I'm crazy. 96 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:19.839 I want to tee him up when I see that. So when you say 97 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:25.079 animated, you know, Bobby is more demonstrative, you know, animated Mick 98 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:31.959 Crount is just giant steaming turn. Yeah. Fair, Okay, Okay, 99 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.319 that's that's that's what I was That's what I was thinking. The answer. 100 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.560 Yeah, I just I just want to make sure. So that's your college 101 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:42.439 basketball breaking news. Just a little bit golf breaking news. Charlie Woods, 102 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.279 son of Tiger Woods, has entered a pre qualifier for the Cognizant Open in 103 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.839 here in Palm Beach, Florida. So he's fifteen years old, say fifteen, 104 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.959 fifteen years old. Well, he's trying to beat his dad, who 105 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.360 played in a PJ Term Tour event at sixteen, right, yep, sixteen. 106 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:00.000 So we'll see. That's that's something to keep rye on in the golf, 107 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.040 in the golf for how much have you seen him play? You know, 108 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.879 I mean a dec amount I see damn good. I mean have you 109 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.720 seen the side by side yes, Em and Tiger. Yes, it is. 110 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.199 It is unbelievable. It's uncanny. It's it is. It's two peas 111 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.399 in in a pod and he has a great swing. So we'll see, 112 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:23.240 that's something to keep Ryan in the NFL post Super Bowl World, justin Field's 113 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.959 unfollowed the Bears on social media and quote, he just wants it to be 114 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.360 over. In terms of the Caleb Williams the draft, right, who are 115 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.480 they gonna trade? What are they gonna do? And honestly, I don't 116 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:38.240 really blame him. I mean, they drafted him with a top ten pick. 117 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.800 He was supposed to be their guy, and he hasn't played like a 118 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:46.959 top ten pick. But he's shown some signs, right and so and why 119 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.519 hasn't he? Right? How much of it is the people that are you 120 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.279 know, the guys that they've got him surrounded with and stuff like that. 121 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:55.920 You know, I mean, you know why is Brock Purtty so damn good? 122 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.120 Well, Brock Purtty so damn good because he's pretty good. But he's 123 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.240 got guys sure, right, you know, so I can I can understand 124 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.480 the frustration. We're gonna have to get Patrick Finley on. He covers that 125 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.399 he covers the Bears for the sometimes he's a buddy of ours, and get 126 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.160 engage that conversation with him, you know what what he thinks might happen. 127 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.319 But you know, it's it's a it's a soap opera when it when it 128 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:20.120 comes to that kind of stuff, you know, back back to when you 129 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:26.560 when when when uh, the Packers you know, drafted Jordan Love and pissed 130 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.600 off Aaron Rodgers. Their relationship was never the same, you know, to 131 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.879 the point where he's left. So you know, so we'll see, Yeah, 132 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.960 we'll see. And then the last thing show, hey, Otani came 133 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.799 out saying he wants to get at least fifty preseason at bats, spring training 134 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.320 at bats? Is that a lot? I don't know. I mean spring 135 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.279 training A lot of guys just try and get some reps in, stay healthy. 136 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.200 I don't know if fifty is a lot, Like he played three innings 137 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.519 back twice, and are you gonna are you gonna go down and see him? 138 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:58.159 Well, we thought about it, we looked into it. We couldn't 139 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:03.320 find any weekend games where the tickets weren't already like a hundred bucks, So 140 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.200 we may just wait and go see him in you know, regular season. 141 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.240 I'd love to. I'd love to go catch the spring training game, but 142 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.399 between doing the show, I can only go on weekends. Yeah, exactly 143 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.320 right, And and we've we looked into tickets for those and it's not working. 144 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:22.240 Yeah, no, I don't blame. He's someone where you want to 145 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.559 see you like I do. Well, I saw him with the Angels a 146 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.080 couple of years ago, and I was really upset with him because he batted 147 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.960 four times and hit like a lame ground ball single up the middle, and 148 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.600 that was it. I wanted to hear the sound, right, the sound 149 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.960 of of you know, him hit a rocket. You know, I was 150 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.440 a little pissed. You'll believe me, You'll hear. I've been to Dodger 151 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.879 Stadium one time in my life, and uh, I think Cody Bellinger hit 152 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:52.039 like a third inning home run and you would think the World Series they just 153 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.720 won. It gets loud. So no, he's yeah, I can hardly 154 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.840 wait, and we're we're already planning a probably a July trip up there to 155 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.919 catch a couple of games and see you see what that what it's all about. 156 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:05.879 But yeah, I did, Like I said, I did see him 157 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.720 that one time, and I was really disappointed in him. There you go, 158 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.519 But at the time I didn't think he was I don't know he's gonna 159 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.840 be a Dodger or so I'm not disappointed anymore. I'm ready. It's gonna 160 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:20.639 be fun. You know, I watch I literally I watch probably at least 161 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.759 a piece of probably seventy five percent of the Dodger games. You know, 162 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:26.879 we buy the MLB package, and so I'm sitting at home, I get 163 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.960 home from the show whatever, if it's on, I put it on and 164 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.679 do my work, and so I watch a lot of that stuff. So 165 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.960 it's gonna be fun to be able to watch him, you know, in 166 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.360 those games every day. Gotcha, I can't wait? All right, are 167 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.399 you ready for this? I'm gonna do my NBA second half storylines in under 168 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.519 three minutes. Okay, let's go, right. The New Orleans Pelicans can 169 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.519 point can point zion get them to an NBA finals? Who's nos? Luka 170 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.440 Don Fitch and the new look Dallas Mavericks. Will they get out of the 171 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:01.159 playing game? The Los Angeles Lakers Golden State Warriors currently ninth and tenth. 172 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.399 Will they or will they not? Be? Playoff teams? Not playing teams? 173 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.879 Playoff teams? The Phoenix Suns my home. Can the Big three A 174 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.039 stay healthy be lead them to an NBA finals? The Clippers, I have 175 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.240 one word, It's health. The Denver Nuggets have the best player in the 176 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.519 World. Will Jolkic win his third MVP? Oklahoma City Thunder the youngest current 177 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.559 current competitive team. Can the youth get them to an NBA Finals? The 178 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:33.200 Minnesota Timberwolves, Rudy Gobert, Klar Anthony Towns. Will it work in the 179 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.759 playoffs? We may never know? The Boston Celtics the best record in the 180 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:41.480 NBA. Can they get over their playoff woes? The Cleveland Cavaliers are currently 181 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:46.399 twenty one and three in their last twenty four games. They can they stay 182 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.519 as hot as they have been? The Milwaukee Bucks Doc Rivers is three and 183 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:56.000 seven in his first ten games, and Jiannis does not seem to be extremely 184 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:01.279 happy about that. Three more teams, The New York Knicks Madison Square Garden 185 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.120 is begging, begging for an NBA Finals appearance. I can't imagine what that 186 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.360 would look like. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Joel Embiid, was the 187 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.320 front runner of the MVP, is hurt. Can he get back and be 188 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.759 as healthy as he was before to lead them on a playoff run? And, 189 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.639 last, but not least, the Miami Heat, the team that seems 190 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.080 to just waddle their way into the playoffs every year. Can they do it 191 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.120 one more time. Wow, Steve, I did Wow, j I did 192 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:30.200 that in a minute fifteen seconds. That was awesome. That was a rundown. 193 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.480 I feel like I've learned so much about the NBA in just the last 194 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.519 couple of minutes. How many how many games have those three guys played together 195 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:43.639 for the Suns since it's you know, this season, so bial just the 196 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.960 last game kind of tweaked the same thing, but they they have played I 197 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.480 want to say, twenty two games. I know in their first eighteen games 198 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:56.440 they were thirteen and five, so the sample size is beginning to get a 199 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.559 little higher. And all the all the immediate results are really dang good. 200 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.840 Yeah, they have a five man lineup. They're starting five that is in 201 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.240 the top three in offensive and defensive efficiency. So I like where they're at. 202 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.639 Just need to be healthy, and I don't know if I don't know 203 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:20.200 if my sanity is ready for the NBA playoffs. It's what I care about. 204 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.879 It's one of the things I care about most really. Okay, wow, 205 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:28.279 okay, all right, Well, look, you know, as somebody 206 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.519 you know who's lived down here all you know, all my life, I'm 207 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.799 aware of the Suns. I don't live or die with the Suns. But 208 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.840 when they're good, and when they're you know, when I see him in 209 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:39.639 the playoffs and I'm pulling for them to get you know, I wanted to 210 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.159 win an NBA championship. I mean I really wanted back when Barkley was there, 211 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.159 I really wanted to see them win one, you know, and then 212 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.039 when Kurt took over his GM and stuff like that. But I root for 213 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.440 him. But I learned a lot more from you just now than I've known 214 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.919 about them all season long. But you know, good luck to them. 215 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.960 Hopefully they can get something done. All right, We're gona take our new 216 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.840 break. Craig Everson, the head foot basketball coach at the Gregory School, 217 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.159 small school one A, won a state championship over the weekend, his third, 218 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.360 the school's fifth. We're going talk to him about winning that title again 219 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.360 and what it means to him, what it means to the school, and 220 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.919 what it means to you know, one A basketball. It's small school basketball. 221 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.279 But you know, I want to saw them play and they were pretty 222 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.159 damn good. They looked like a state championship team. So we'll talk to 223 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:30.720 Craig about that as we start wandering through state champions in the high school high 224 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.440 school playoffs, so stick around. The Windows Depot is more than a Windows 225 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.120 store. 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I've got Sammy the interron 293 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.319 here running things, and now on the on the on the phone, we've 294 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.839 got Craig Eberson, the head basketball coach at the Gregory School, one A 295 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.000 school one A state basketball champions. Craig, you know, I know it's 296 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.720 your third time, but it still has to sound really dang good to hear 297 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:47.720 that got a great ring to it. Thanks for having me on. I 298 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:52.079 appreciate it. We appreciate you being here. You know. When i've you 299 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.680 know, I continue to follow. You know, my kids all went to 300 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.960 the Gregory School, saying Gregory back in the day following my son was on 301 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:02.720 the basketball team got to state semi finals. I've always kind of paid attention 302 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.400 when I heard that you guys were going into the state tournament. You were 303 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.720 in terms of your I don't know how you how you phrased this, but 304 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:12.960 you guys were eighteen and oh in the games that you count for, you 305 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.119 know, towards your rankings, undefeated. I had to see what this looked 306 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:18.920 like. And I went to saw your first round game and I was, 307 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.359 you know, really impressed. And I'll just tell you what I thought I 308 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.680 saw was just more than the you know, the offense here, the relentless 309 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.759 defense that you guys played. Was that sort of where you were hanging your 310 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.279 hat or how did you how did this team develop into the team it became, 311 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:41.400 Yeah, this one, It's really been a number of years in the 312 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:47.440 making. A lot of our kids came through up through the middle school ranks, 313 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.119 and we've had, you know, we've had some decent talents, but 314 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:57.640 the senior group was a was a group that really really really hung their hat 315 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:03.480 on defense, and you know, had been for several years and we just 316 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.160 couldn't quite get our scoring up to par until you know, the last last 317 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.680 year or two we've started to emerge a little bit. So we've we've been 318 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.319 a defensive team for several years here, and we knew we were going to 319 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:21.799 be a strong defensive team and and then we added enough offense to kind of 320 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.759 put us over the top this year. Explain to me you talk about, 321 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:30.200 you know, several years of putting this team together, and you go to 322 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.000 middle school. You know, we know the Saint Gregor, the Gregory School 323 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:34.599 has always had you know, middle school program and all that kinds. When 324 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.480 do you start seeing these kids and you know, both at the school and 325 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.519 and do you get them, you know, do you get them outside summer 326 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:47.599 camps things like that. So five of my kids, uh were in fifth 327 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.119 grade, and that was my very first year at just at the end of 328 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.920 the fifth grade season, and so I started training them that summer in summer 329 00:21:55.960 --> 00:22:00.640 camps and and you know, fall training and et cetera. So I kind 330 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.119 of try to train year round, especially for the kids in our school. 331 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.799 And so I was lucky to have five of them, you know, stay 332 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.079 with us through high school. We got another couple of them in eighth grade. 333 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:18.440 So I think about, you know, eight of our fourteen were you 334 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.839 know, with us since middle school in some pacy or another. And then 335 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.400 of course, you know, kids at the end of eighth grade decide which 336 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.319 high school is to go to. And we were fortunate enough to get a 337 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.319 couple of you know, really nice ball players that came in and and that 338 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.359 that had some good skill and then you know, just kind of had to 339 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.720 integrate them into our way. Well let's talk about then, your way is, 340 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.200 you know, you build it in for you know, for quite a 341 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.240 you know, quite a period of time, and so what does that mean 342 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.680 to a player And how do you instill that how do you get them to 343 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.240 say this is the way we're going to do things. Yeah, at the 344 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.680 core, the core of it really is, you know, I'm from the 345 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.039 I graduated from Wisconsin. I'm a big ten guy, and I kind of 346 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.319 say, if we can play a big ten defense in West Coast offense, 347 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:14.079 I'll be pretty thrilled. And so the defense is a must. And we've 348 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.920 played symbol of Man de Man and this year we really had you know, 349 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.200 probably eight six or eight guards who could on ball defend. That was you 350 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.759 know, it's difficult we've had in all my years. And so what you 351 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.319 saw that night was right. We we just kind of pressure the ball and 352 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.720 and so you know, it's a lot of ball pressure. It's a lot 353 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.960 of you know, team five guys stop the ball from scoring. Uh. 354 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:44.000 And then the second piece of it for me is you know, really developing 355 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.920 the kids into skilled basketball players. So we don't we don't run a lot 356 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.799 of sets, we don't run a lot of patterned offense. It's I try 357 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:56.920 to teach these kids how to play basketball and and build their skills. And 358 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.960 so it's a lot of skilled building from fifth grade on. It's a lot 359 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:04.440 of layups, finishing at the rim, euro step, you know, rondo 360 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:08.680 catch and shoot, you know, get to the middle, fine guys be 361 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.920 able to knock down shots. It's a lot of skilled building over a lot 362 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.079 of time. And we were lucky enough to have a group of kids who 363 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.599 just really worked there both us. So I don't I don't really know your 364 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.559 background, but you came you said you're from Wisconsin. You came here from 365 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:29.039 where and you coached where else. Yeah, my whole career, I've been 366 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.519 in a business professional and I was looking to go into a second career after 367 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:41.400 my kids got out of high school. And so I did coach in Wisconsin 368 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:47.759 three years as a as an assistant to a JV team, and I coached 369 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:52.240 a lot of au travel ball. I was affiliated with a club program up 370 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.680 up in Wisconsin that you know, was fortunate enough to we put probably one 371 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:02.200 hundred kids into different universe these at different levels Division one, two, and 372 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.680 three and you know, kind of train them year round and help them get 373 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:11.240 into school colleges to play ball. So I've seen a lot of high caliber 374 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:17.160 ball players and kind of know the target on how how to you know, 375 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.880 build them into you know, elite players. And so that's what what we 376 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.640 try to do here. And I took I took our basketball academy philosophy and 377 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:27.680 I brought it down here into the Gregory School. Sounds great, So what 378 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.519 do you what do you think is the biggest challenge when it comes to you 379 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.559 know, coaching one A one A kids. I mean, I mean there's 380 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.240 still talented players or just at a small school, is what has been my 381 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.079 thought all along. But you know, you still have to put together a 382 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.839 team. You've got fewer players to you know, to choose from what what 383 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.160 where do you think all of those things, Uh, how do you think 384 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.000 all those things work towards, you know, putting together a team like you 385 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:56.519 put together. Yeah, it was you know, typically in my first few 386 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.359 years, we never really had a rotation that could go much more below six 387 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.599 or seven, you know, and because of you know, the depth isn't 388 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:10.680 there at a small school, and you know, we're we're lucky to have 389 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.720 good ball players, let alone how many of them we can get. But 390 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.559 this year, you know, it was just a it was kind of a 391 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:23.599 perfect storm of of my senior group having done so much work to become good 392 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:30.920 ball players, and then an influx of younger kids who really already could play. 393 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:34.759 And and you know, in some ways, our seniors provided all a 394 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:40.000 lot of the defense and the roles, and our our younger, our underclassmen 395 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.720 did most of the bulk of the scoring. Talking to Craig Eaverson, head 396 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.920 coach of the Gregory School Hawks, one a state champions this last weekend talking 397 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.279 about your season is okay at some point in the season, maybe it was 398 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.480 before the season, you know, the way you're you know, you're saying 399 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.559 you everything was coming together. You know, did you go into the season 400 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:03.759 thinking not not its state championship or bust, but we should get there. 401 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:12.599 Yeah? Probably right right as spring started, in the first day we completed 402 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:18.240 from last year, we all thought we had a pretty good chance to be 403 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:25.519 a very good team. And I would say we all kind of thought there 404 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.000 would before teams that could could win it all, with North Valley being the 405 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.559 favorite still they had won it last year, and then Babo and Desert Christian 406 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.519 were better than us to start the year. They definitely were. They were 407 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.960 they were, you know, ranked ahead of us last year, and they 408 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:47.319 returned all their great players. So we probably went into the season thinking we 409 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.880 were fourth. There's a lot of you know, people who said we were 410 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.799 five, six, seven because they didn't know much about us. But we 411 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.799 felt like we'd be a top four team. And then it was about us 412 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:03.160 to see how much better we could get every day and see if we couldn't 413 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.359 overtake those three teams. Well and and well, first of all back when 414 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.640 I was you know, you know at the you know, my kids were 415 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.119 at the school Desert Christian was a two A team and so they've dropped back 416 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.279 down to one A. That that surprised me when I saw that on the 417 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.880 schedule. And Bob Kaev you just you know, Barbara Kave, you always 418 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.759 came in with, you know, eight guys who could shoot from three and 419 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.519 that is that still who they are, Yep, that's who they are. 420 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.599 Yeah, And I saw what but I saw you I saw a lot of 421 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.160 guys throwing it from three, uh, you know in the game that I 422 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.640 saw and then you know, we saw that that I think Jackson Dickinson hit 423 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:45.920 a three pointer that was basically the game winner for you guys. Tell me 424 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.559 a little bit about the offense that you put together with these guys. Yeah, 425 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:57.359 so we we have some nice eyes on the team, three kids like 426 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.319 six four six, five, six five, So we really had to pay 427 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.200 more attention to using kind of a high low. I watched a lot of 428 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:11.319 Tommy Lloyd stuff last year because they do a great job of the high low. 429 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.559 We don't run exactly their offense, but we have a little different spacing. 430 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.640 We run a Villanova offense. But we can run high low out of 431 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.720 that, and so it's a lot of attack the basket, attack the middle 432 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:33.599 through either dribble penetration or post touches. We had great post play this year, 433 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:40.160 and we actually started out the season shooting really poorly for probably twenty games 434 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.359 and just couldn't figure out how to knock down the outside shots. And we've 435 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.880 really worked on it. For example, we were shooting twenty three percent from 436 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:55.240 three point range halfway through the season, and I think we shot forty the 437 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.839 rest of the way. So it was a real blessing for us to kind 438 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:02.240 of add to the offense, a real change. Okay, so you probably 439 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.200 know I'm going to ask this, but you know, three state championships. 440 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.599 Rather than ask you which was your favor, I'm gonna ask you how were 441 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.880 the those three state championship teams the same and different? You know, what 442 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.359 similarities did they have? And then where were they where were they really different? 443 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:23.119 Yeah, So the only thing that matters about three is just the the 444 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.519 group of young men each of those three years that got to experience the this 445 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.839 this success and and you know, have kind of a lifelong memory. That's 446 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.720 really what's the most important, and so we don't really talk a lot about 447 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.759 any of the other ones. You know, we're just happy to have this 448 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.680 group be able to experience the you know, coming up on top and be 449 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:55.920 the best. If I had to compare, the first team was ultra talented, 450 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.000 and we we had to figure out how to be a team that was 451 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.680 more ulter talented than us, and we were able to do so. But 452 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.519 it's kind of just between the two of us that year. The second team 453 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:15.359 was was you know, maybe even though at the beginning of the year we 454 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.240 couldn't figure out how to score without Addison Moore, and then we kind of 455 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.000 came together and we ended up being as good, if not better than the 456 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:30.079 first team. And this year it's very similar to the first year's team, 457 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:36.160 I would say, because they just kind of broke through and we didn't know 458 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:41.039 whether it was very uncertain whether we could do it or not, and so 459 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.920 it was you know, the boys just did a fantastic job of taking it 460 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.519 over the top. Yeah, well, Craig, we do appreciate the time. 461 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.720 Congratulations. It's awesome to see you know, obviously, you know we're 462 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.799 here. We love to see the Tucson teams win these things because it's we 463 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.480 know, you guys put in a lot of hard work, you know, 464 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.000 and whether your one, A six, A five, a whatever, we 465 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.799 know everybody has to work hard. So congratulations to you, Congratulations to the 466 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.640 school, and congratulations to your guys. Like you said, they're gonna have 467 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:13.759 a lifetime memory with this, and it's a it's awesome that you can help 468 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.279 them help them get to that. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, 469 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.559 thank you, all right, Greg thanks a whole bunch. Okay, Craig 470 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.960 Averson, head coach at the Gregory School. One A state championships and boys 471 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:29.160 basketball. Very cool, Sammy, you were in you were a high school 472 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.720 athlete. I was. I was a high school basketball player, and we 473 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:36.799 never we never got one of those. We lost in the state semifinals to 474 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.079 a team we beat our second game of the season. It was heart wrenching. 475 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.160 We would have gone on to play Pinnacle and Nicomannon, Jordan Maynes, 476 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:51.200 Spencer Ratler, those guys in the and who we had beaten earlier in the 477 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:55.359 season. So we lost two games that year, one two team in Washington 478 00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.759 and state semifinal game to Mountain Point. I remember it like it was yesterday. 479 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.079 So it's it's really cool that those guys want to stay championship, something 480 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.319 that sadly never got to do. But yeah, yeah, no, you 481 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.880 know I can imagine. Yeah, you know, I mean I got my 482 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.240 kids were all went to the Gregory School and they were all you know, 483 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.359 two of my kids were three sport athletes. One was a two sport athlete. 484 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.680 You know, they got to final fours, you know in volleyball, 485 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.839 basketball, we got to one in baseball, and you know, your your 486 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:31.119 heartbreaks sucks. Man. There's literally like to this day, there's it's I 487 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.519 still remember every game, like every season ending loss, Yeah, going home, 488 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.480 not going to practice the next day, going to school, seeing the 489 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:44.759 guys that you went through a season with your coaches. And then I mean, 490 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.960 as a senior, it's the worst you can It's done. You go. 491 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.359 You have the rest of your year as going to class whatever it may 492 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.640 be. But then you're off to college if you and then as a freshman 493 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.400 sophomore, junior, it's like you get back to work. It's like to 494 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.079 those kids, I want to state championship. As a freshman sophomore junior, 495 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.359 it's like all you want to do is do to do it. Again, 496 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.840 so right, it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's very cool. And 497 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.360 look, you know I just again as an advocate of you know, play 498 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.599 all the sports, right, you know, and at at the Gramary School, 499 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.960 you know, we had to have those athletes play all the sports. 500 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.920 You know, you had to play three sports because you only had X number 501 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.320 of athletes. You needed them all and you know, the specializing was just 502 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.280 not in the in the cards over there, you know at that time. 503 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.480 You know, during my son's years, the best basketball player was also our 504 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.519 best baseball player. And he was the best soccer player. Yeah, and 505 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.840 and and you he ended up getting a college you know, college scholarship to 506 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.880 go play college basketball. And you know, you see that thing, and 507 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.320 you just see again over and over just if you're a good athlete, you're 508 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.079 a good athlete, and all those sports they help in their other respectives. 509 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.599 Right, if you're a good football player, you have that edge competitiveness to 510 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.920 go play basketball, right, and and it just goes, it goes through 511 00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.760 all the sports. So the more you play, the more more fun you 512 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:01.159 have. You and then you go off and do a radio show. It 513 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:05.760 a couple of old guys, so fun still having a good time. All 514 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.000 right, we're gonna take our last break. We'll be back. We'll love 515 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.800 to take take some calls. Five to two zero four one six seventy four 516 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.800 to forty. 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Steve Rivera and Jacon 561 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:30.840 Salez they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson Sports dig Chef Fox Sports 562 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.280 fourteen to fifty, streaming live on the iHeartRadio wam falcing back time in the 563 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.639 balling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jacob Zaliz, my partner in crime 564 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:45.280 normally is gone today Steve Rivera's He's up in Phoenix working on a media project 565 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.320 related to the NCAA tournament, and we'll probably have some discussion to that at 566 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.480 some point when it's all cooked up and ready to go. I've got Sammy 567 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:58.280 the intern here running things and adding to the conversation, doing a great job 568 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.800 of it. So Samuel, you know, uh, we were talking. 569 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.480 I think, uh, you know earlier in the earlier in the show where 570 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.679 you use the word under the radar for Arizona, who is ranked fourth in 571 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.920 the country. So I don't know how under the radar they are, but 572 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.719 I kind of agree with you in that. You know, they lost a 573 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.880 couple of games and people just kind of, as you said, forgot about 574 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.159 them a little bit, and and they're creeping back up in the in the 575 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.079 rankings. You know, they had the sweep at the at the Mountain Schools 576 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:28.400 and now they're they're fourth in the country. But they're not you know, 577 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.840 a. Yukon was looking like unbeatable until last night. So we were talking 578 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.000 about who would you pick ahead of them to win the national championship. Yeah, 579 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.519 there's some of it. Was thinking about a little bit, and then 580 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:46.440 I went into went into some numbers on it. I think the only team 581 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.920 that I could see winning a national championship before Arizona is still Purdue. I'm 582 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.199 still on the Purdue wagon. I think they have the best player in the 583 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.519 country. Zach e Ed is probably the most unstopped player in college basketball. 584 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.880 And they have really good guards. And I know that lost against Ohio State, 585 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.639 they didn't look as good as they are, but you saw how good 586 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:14.079 they can be in the game against Arizona. Yeah, and that's a team 587 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.360 that's the only team right now that if I were filling out my bracket I 588 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:22.639 would pick before U of A to win the national champion. Wow. Interesting? 589 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.280 Okay, Well, the odds makers have even today after that horrible loss 590 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.239 by Yukon last night, They've got Yukon with the favorite at plus five hundreds 591 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.400 or five to one, followed by Purdue at seven fifty or seven and a 592 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.760 half to one, Houston at eight fifty, and then Arizona at twelve. 593 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.840 So they got one. Yeah, that's actually a good number. I like 594 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.400 it. It's not gonna get any It's not gonna get any higher unless we 595 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.760 lose tomorrow, right, we lose a crummy game at ASU, win the 596 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.440 Pac twelve tournament or something like. I don't see that number getting any higher, 597 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.639 even if we do have one loss left in US And like you said, 598 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.199 the teams, the teams ahead of them, I think it's really really 599 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.960 hard to repeat as Yukon. For Yukon, you have the pressure of you're 600 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.760 the defending national champion. There's a large target on your back. And to 601 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.599 be frank, they're a very good team, but they're they're not as good 602 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.519 as last year's team. They lost some really good players to the draft, 603 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.960 and that that number is really low. It's it's hard to repeat. And 604 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.480 in Houston's case, they lost Marcus Sasser, who's arguably their best player, 605 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.480 and they still they don't do it efficiently enough on the offensive end to meet 606 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.159 for for me to be like they can win the national championship. And Purdue, 607 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.880 similarly to the U of A, I guess in the last two years, 608 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:50.199 have not had good March Madness success. Right, They lost as a 609 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.320 sixteen seed last year. Okay, so you got the schedule. The Arizona 610 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:58.639 scheduled reads Washington State tomorrow. Obviously Washington on Saturday, and I think that 611 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.760 I think Lev made a good point of that. You know, they're going 612 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.199 to put a lot into this Washington State game. It's going to be a 613 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:08.199 quick turnaround, you know, the potential for coming out flat, you know, 614 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.280 could be high. Wednesday, they go to a s U you never 615 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.840 know. Then they come back the following Saturday against Oregon, and then they're 616 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.480 on the road for UCLA and USC pick a loss in there or two. 617 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.119 I think the the Oregon game at home, even though we don't lose at 618 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.679 home, and the U c l A game at u c l A, 619 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.440 they don't have a ton to play for. Cronin wants to win on his 620 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.800 home floor. I think that would be the one that I would circle and 621 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:42.079 be like, if we were to lose, it would be at UCLA. 622 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.159 At UCLA that you know, after what I've seen from them, and I 623 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.320 saw them lose that game to to Utah. That is a way less daunting 624 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.679 road trip than I thought, you know, going in even halfway through this 625 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.239 season. But you know, and then the UCLA game is Thursday night, 626 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.480 so that's not the last game. It's the it's the Thursday game. Then 627 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:07.760 they go to go to usc yes tomorrow, I mean, got it's at 628 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.920 home. But it's probably the best team left on that schedule. Well, 629 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.679 they're certainly the best team left on the schedule, no doubt about that. 630 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:19.159 And they already beat you, So you have the the team that's beaten them 631 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:24.679 before. I mean they beat us at home last year, Yes they did. 632 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.719 That was a weird team that was down as one of the weirdest teams 633 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.280 because there were so that team and there's so many times that they just looked 634 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:42.599 uninterested in in uh A a specific game, and that was one of them. 635 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.840 Yeahah, that night, that was one of them. They look like 636 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.159 they wanted to be anywhere but there. And it made no sense to me 637 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.800 because they were playing for so much. They were playing for a number one 638 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.239 seed through the whole through the whole season, and you know, they ended 639 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.159 up with A with a two. But it made no sense to me that 640 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.440 they that that it was a sort of a through the uniform on the on 641 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.000 the floor kind of game. And here here's my case for why U of 642 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.519 A's I mean, I think perdue. But if you were to pick U 643 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.360 of A to be the National Tighter contender, you would say, A. 644 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.440 They're eight deep, sometimes nine, right, they're starting five, all averages 645 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.599 double digits. They can all anybody on the floor at almost any given time, 646 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.519 can score sixth in offensive efficiency and seventeenth in defensive And if history tells 647 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.199 us, you want to be in the top twenty and both both to be 648 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.280 a National Tighter title contender. And the only team that has a lower number 649 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:40.039 is yukon their second offensive and twentieth and defensive. So that number is really 650 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.840 close. And as much as we love, as much as we're the number 651 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:49.719 one offense in the country score the most points, our defense is as not 652 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.679 as good as anybody's in the country, but we defend a lot better than 653 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.920 people give us credit for. They do and people do that because they see 654 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.960 the offense and think, well, you're you know, you're an offensive team. 655 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.800 They're not, you know, because the real one of the and I've 656 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.239 said this before, one of the reasons their offense is so good is because 657 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.880 their defense is so good. Their offense feeds off of that. You know, 658 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.400 they get out in transition. You know, Tommy talked about the importance 659 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:20.119 of finishing and being in transition and and you know, doing those things that 660 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.519 again, you know, when they when they go down on a basket basket 661 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.320 like, that's because they you know, they got a rebound where they got 662 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.079 to turnover and they made it, you know, and and they get down 663 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:35.199 the court and and that's why that offense seems so good. Yeah. So 664 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.920 often when you average nine steals a game, like U of A does, 665 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:45.000 that's going to lead to almost fifteen to eighteen just layups. And that's where 666 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.920 I mean the scoring number is high with all five starters average in double digits. 667 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.000 That's I would love to know another team in the country that has that 668 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.119 doing that. And then you have a guy like Jayden Bradley kJ or yeah 669 00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:01.760 kJ Lewis who come off the bench and are amazing they're both they're both part 670 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.880 of you a's best five man lineup, right, And we talked about the 671 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.760 stats Love and Jaden and he's he's one of the guys like Caleb that our 672 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.559 experienced guards, right, and you everybody knows every People don't realize that they 673 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:22.360 don't because he's knew here. Yeah, Caleb was an International Championship up twenty 674 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.360 points against Kansas. If you know college basketball, you know what happened. 675 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.599 You don't happen after that, Kansas came back, they win the national championship. 676 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:34.079 But Caleb Love has been in the biggest games any college basketball player can 677 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:38.519 play in. And Jayden Bradley it wasn't a lot of minutes because the Alabama 678 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.639 guardroom last year was great, but he's been in a lot of high level 679 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.840 games too. So having those guys and even even Kylon we talked about minutes 680 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.679 played, He's played big minutes. Yeah, and those three got in LA 681 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.519 two ballow knows and keyshad was just in a national championship too. Like if 682 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.760 you're if you're defending this team, you give all those reasons. They've been 683 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:01.800 in huge games, right, Well, and then a question is going to 684 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.280 be crevous, right, you know, if you're in a situation Babo gets 685 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.239 in some foul trouble in a game or something like that. You know, 686 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:12.320 crevaus is a is a true freshman. How ready is he? You know 687 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.880 for this picture. He's he's been up and down, He's had some you 688 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.480 know, there been times you got, okay, he's getting it, and 689 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:21.440 then there's been other times you go, he's not getting it. We'll see 690 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:28.400 if we'll see how reluctant Tommy is too with his leash, because we've seen 691 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:32.280 a little bit that you can play at the five if if push come to 692 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.800 shove, if you think crevas isn't ready for the spot and Baba has three 693 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.840 first half rous you can go to key Shot at the five and play small 694 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.719 and kJ can play the four pla and then you have the two guards. 695 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:50.480 So he hasn't necessarily had that great luxury of last year when ballagun foul trouble, 696 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:52.840 Zoo would play the five. But he wasn't. He wasn't a five. 697 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.519 Five has that toughness to goa He wasn't even as much of a five 698 00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:02.039 as as key Shot is right, I agree, I mean the Azulis was 699 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:07.199 a four leaning towards a three three. But that's just how a skill set 700 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.679 was, right. He knows the best player. He would take some jumpers, 701 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.559 even though I love him, but he he was a gifted offensive player 702 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.159 that he wasn't he wasn't a five. Like you said, he's more three 703 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.960 leaning than than the five. So Tommy does have some of that at his 704 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:29.239 disposal of some coaching decisions that in the first round, if Krefus isn't ready 705 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.360 for a tight a tight game, and you can go to key Shot who's 706 00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:37.360 been Okay, I was just in a national championship, right, So there 707 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.639 there is some that's that's my defense for why Arizona there's only one team I 708 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.840 would pick ahead of them. Get convincing me to throw something down on him. 709 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.559 I still haven't. Well, one twelve hundred one twelve hundred plus twelve 710 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:57.480 hundred is is a good number. It's a great number. Okay, Okay, 711 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.079 you're let's let's say you've got like a real job and things or than 712 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.719 you know, you're you're professional and you dabble in some gambling, but you're 713 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.280 a ten, fifteen, twenty five, maybe even up to fifty dollars gambler. 714 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:13.880 Sure, how much would you put on Arizona? I mean I would 715 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.320 put one hundred bucks on him? Would you put fifty bucks on him? 716 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:20.280 So let's just let's just do it as this, Like if my unit normal 717 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.639 unit is ten and say that's what it is now. But if I were 718 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.440 if that were my profession, and say my normal unit was one hundred bucks, 719 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:30.920 I would put I think it's a two unit play. Like if you 720 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.159 put I'd put two hundred on it. Okay, you get put two hundred, 721 00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.400 you get almost twenty five hundred back. Right. I think that's a 722 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.800 good I think it's good, a good value. It's as good as a 723 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.400 value out of those four teams, I would say, Right, juve A 724 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.760 hasn't made a deep run in some time in a while, there's somewhat do 725 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:52.199 with a new coup quote unquote new coach. Maybe he breaks through and you 726 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:57.000 have you have the guys that are ready to do it. Yeah. So 727 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.639 I think and this isn't me being a huge airs on a fan. I 728 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.719 think guys and analysts should be talking more about this team's potential to be a 729 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.599 national champion, to get to the final four. Their plus two fifty, 730 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:14.000 that's not a great number. Right, No, it's not like I look, 731 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.559 when you look final four, you gotta you want to look more in 732 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:22.000 that plus five hundred or above range. So I'm assuming like Creighton's there, 733 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.320 Duke is there, five to fifty, Marquette is five fifty, Kansas is 734 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.480 four to fifty. Yeah, Kentucky's what's Auburn? Auburn is a four hundred 735 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.000 plus four hundred, yeah, plus four hundred, Yeah, you got you 736 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.440 kind of plus one ten. So basically an even money bet. Yukon, 737 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.719 Purdue, Houston, Arizona, Tennessee, North Carolina, Auburn, Alabama. 738 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:49.639 They're playing their finding. Kentucky's another team where they just they just went to 739 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.239 Auburn and gave it to them. Yeah. I think Cow's got those guys. 740 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.400 They're young, but they're they're really good. Yeah. Yeah, I 741 00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.679 mean this year we always say it, but this year, more than most, 742 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:05.840 seems like a year where you really don't know what's gonna IDEA you could 743 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.360 do three or four brackets and have three or four different champions. Yeah. 744 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.079 Last year was we kind of thought we knew what was going on, and 745 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.519 we have had four teams that wow, okay out of nowhere. So we'll 746 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.239 see all right, hey Sammy, nice job today, appreciate it. Thanks 747 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.039 to Craig Everson, Michael lev for joining us today. Steve will be back 748 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.519 tomorrow. We are going to have the beat writer for Washington State from the 749 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.159 Spokesman Review, Greg Woods, will join us. We can preview the game 750 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.079 and so be sure to come back tomorrow. We'll be talking some more Arizona 751 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.480 basketball, So see you tomorrow.