1 00:00:07,879 --> 00:00:13,039 Good morning, Mother, sphere? Good morning, Mother, Comonic sphere of 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:19,079 the Fund. Welcome to our podcast. Good morning, Mother, in which 3 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:26,199 you already know that we want to accompany you with themes, challenges, projects, 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,120 people that help us to face the upbringing, childhood, education, motherhood, 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,960 fatherhood always in a better way and in which, moreover, have a 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,640 very special place books, children and youth books, books of upbringing, education, 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,399 all the books in general we like and, of course, we very 8 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:53,000 much like the authors, the authors. We always have room to talk to 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,200 them, whenever we can, because then, there are agendas and there are 10 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,479 agendas, as is the case today. You' re going to forgive me, 11 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:08,200 but I' m a little affected because I have with me virtually, 12 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,480 because I have a spectacular establishment. I am very excited in this interview to 13 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:17,159 be able to greet people with whom we have already spoken here, in this 14 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:19,319 podcast, to whom I read, to whom I admire and that I know 15 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,760 that you from the other side, because you will also produce with your ears 16 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:27,599 you, you and your creatures, because you have. I don' t 17 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:33,159 know how many millions of fans, of readers, of readers adding them all, 18 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:38,640 and that we still lack an author at this point, impressive the plant 19 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,280 I have today, so I' m going to say hello. I don 20 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,120 ' t even know what order to start, but I' m going to 21 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,480 do it in order of image. Begoña now Roberta Santiago Fernando López, Welcome 22 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:53,640 Hi Gran. Thank you very much, thank you very much, thank you 23 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,239 very much. For inviting us what emotion? Thank you for making us a 24 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,040 hole in your agendas if you already speak to any of you, always because 25 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:09,759 you are very prolific authors and authors and you are always with very complicated agendas, 26 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,639 because on top of that you gather everyone, or almost everyone at least, 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,439 because this is a miracle. And why has this happened, because evidently, 28 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:28,960 you have new book Love and Hate that have published sm you do not 29 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:35,479 have doing very bad. From my point of view, it may not be 30 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:42,560 that I have a copy by hand I well, a copy of this Love 31 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,199 and Heite, which is now we will develop a little more what it is, 32 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,319 which consists of this which, suddenly, one day to me came to 33 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:58,319 email and I said what happened Roberto Santiago, Begoña, Oro, Nando López 34 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,719 and Belengo p and that has still been able to join us to the conversation 35 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,599 technical questions, sure, but that we hope to be able to talk to 36 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:10,240 her. These four super- author authors, authors of children' s and 37 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:17,479 young people' s literature, have also joined together and have given us the 38 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:23,599 first congratulations for being able to find the four to write together. Thank you 39 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,039 so much. Not where we' re going. That makes us see it 40 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:34,439 ' s called someone Begoña to see if it' s Belen or Pek who 41 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:40,400 isn' t. I was waiting, too. No, no, because 42 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:46,120 it makes us so much fun to be able to get together to talk about 43 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:50,439 Amory Heate and everything you want. Of course, the first good thing. 44 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:55,039 I will include in the notes of the program the presentations of each one of 45 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,719 you, because if I have to detail exactly all your books, all your 46 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,639 creatures for children, for younger, for adults, all your creations, because 47 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:13,039 it is that we would leave the space for this podcast to present you well 48 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:18,120 enough, but all those who do not follow know you already and that is 49 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,759 why you allow me to give you the space totally to talk about the work. 50 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:28,680 If it' s all right with you, I' m well known 51 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:34,399 and your work presents you all, but how does this love and haete come 52 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,639 up that just came out, which is like a magic thing. I think 53 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:46,639 it' s miraculous, because yes, I' ll start if I want 54 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:53,199 Mory Hate. Of course to see this in literature is unusual. I always 55 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:56,120 say it in music that, besides, this is a very musical novel, 56 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,240 very musical. In music it is more common for them to come together in 57 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,240 singers to do songs together or to do concerts together. It' s unusual 58 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:12,759 in literature. We haven' t invented it from there It' s not 59 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:15,279 like we' ve invented anything, but it' s a little weirder. 60 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,519 This then arises in various ways. First, because we met the four authors, 61 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,879 we knew each other before, because embarking on a co- writing adventure 62 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:30,360 with someone you don' t know about at all, I think none of 63 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,040 us would have done it, then we all knew each other, we all 64 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,839 read each other. I think we' re all going. I, of 65 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:42,839 course, admire and love Begoña anando and Bethlehem a lot. And that' 66 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,279 s good, because in this case, I threw the first stone, but 67 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,000 for a reason, because I have summered my whole life in Vendor and when 68 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:51,360 I saw that the Comertor Fest started, that I inherited the mythical festival, 69 00:05:51,680 --> 00:06:00,680 from the song of Venders, and I saw also anando on social networks comment 70 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,720 on the first edition that I loved, because I said listen and this madness, 71 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,560 why not do something literary with this and join us. And well, 72 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:13,759 I threw that first stone and it was berta to mark the editor of sm 73 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:19,199 who organized us, who brought us together and who created us a wonderful vehicle 74 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:27,439 to be able among the four to create this love and hei. You went 75 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:33,360 a week there Avendor, not two weeks. You' ve got two weeks. 76 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Okay because I say if you have written the book Tell Me, how 77 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,199 has the writing process been and how have you been distributed? Because the novel 78 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,839 talks with the voices of four characters mainly, although there are some more, 79 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,839 but four characters tell me, how you have distributed to the characters, because 80 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,399 I have been reading the whole novel, thinking who has written such. I 81 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,839 love that not so much and it has come to a conclusion. Yeah, 82 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:14,079 I' m not giving it up. I love the game everyone who thinks 83 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,160 about it, because it' s true that I' ve played a lot 84 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,680 of that to see who was behind it so cool. Well, I can 85 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:29,639 actually leave. The first one said with the characters on top, because we 86 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:31,759 didn' t organize ourselves unless well it would have depended on me, this 87 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:35,439 would never have been. I need you to organize me and I think that 88 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:41,839 in general it happens a little to all of us and then we organized Berta 89 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,879 our editor and less bad, and then he gave us the duties, he 90 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:55,399 imposed us the shifts, he gave us the dates and created the obligation to 91 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:59,439 fulfill them, because if not then, before coming to the comer Fest of 92 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:03,560 the previous edition, not this year we met, we met first and we 93 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:09,120 decided that each one would create a different character. And then we thought. 94 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,480 And well, at that meeting we were already dancing, too, because I 95 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:18,360 want to be a mom, I want to be an artist, I want 96 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,040 to be an artist, I want to be a public. Well, we 97 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,160 already had a first set in common there and then everyone, in their little 98 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,000 house, thought who wanted to be in this novel. Knowing is not the 99 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:35,159 only thing that we knew was going to happen at Apendorfest and that we had 100 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,679 to go to Comeror Fest to live it, to feel it, to inform 101 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,320 us and really if on that trip, I believe that this book could not 102 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,200 have existed either, but everyone left thinking. I' m going to look 103 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,559 at this festival from the eyes of my character giving yes, it' s 104 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,440 not that he' s kidding me he' s summed it up phenomenal. 105 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,799 It was exactly like that. I don' t really like the fact that 106 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,879 we went with the character put on and it' s true to be able 107 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:07,240 to look at it from many angles, also because each of the four had 108 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:11,080 the idea of looking at it from that place, also so that the good 109 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:15,279 novel was as rich as possible, because in the end we see it from 110 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,919 characters who, like erico as ras are going to live the festival, characters 111 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 who are very protagonists in the festival, like Alegra or characters who are part 112 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:26,600 of the festival, but they don' t have that leading role as nil 113 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,000 no and that also made it especially beautiful, because in the end, then 114 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,000 in the writing process and something that I have enjoyed very much the four of 115 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,000 us and that we had a lot of fun is that the things that we 116 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,320 had invent were mixed with that we had lived with. And there are a 117 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,240 lot of details of the novel that when you read it and relay it you 118 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,120 say clearly this was this moment that happened that we were here in the square 119 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:46,960 or we were at the hotel, we were talking about it. There are 120 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,279 many winks to that beautiful week that we share and indeed, there were two. 121 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,480 They were the first week we went to write the novel and the second 122 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,159 week we didn' t introduce it. The whole process has been a very 123 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,679 beautiful circle. And then something that' s good, because we' ve 124 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,159 also done and that I think also makes the novel special and different, is 125 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:09,200 that it' s true that everyone went with a character, but of course, 126 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:13,879 in writing, the process was very open. I wrote, rewritten, 127 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,120 changed, corrected and then, in the end, well, because here it 128 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,000 is a very, very collective novel, in four voices, of four characters, 129 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,519 but everyone written from everything and everyone has written about everything. There are 130 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,399 even characters, because of course, in theory there were four voices, in 131 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,440 reality there are many more, there are podcasts and, suddenly, because we 132 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,919 have Selene' s voice or we have the voice of characters who were not 133 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,960 in that quartet and were being born and that everyone was incorporating and adding and 134 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,360 the orchestra was growing. So the truth is, it' s been a 135 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,519 trip, because I think not every delivery every week. I think we had 136 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,480 a week if I remember correctly or at least it happened so quickly that what 137 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:58,600 we already looked forward to the delivery of the previous person, because it was 138 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,080 to see what Roberto wrote, to see what to say all the len to 139 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,639 see what begoña stocco, because you didn' t know at what point the 140 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,159 book came to you, and that had a part to distribute reading and not 141 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,320 just writing, I mean, it was like creating while you were being surprised. 142 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,080 The truth is, it' s been a process. I believe that 143 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,360 only, sincerely of those we have lived, at least in my case I 144 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:24,679 have not seen anything like it. The cast of characters as it has been. 145 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:28,200 You' re not going to tell or you' re going to leave 146 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,000 it in the mystery. Well, like you said, I' m all 147 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 good and, as you explained, very good begoña. Everyone chose a character 148 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:41,039 that well, why I have no idea myself I don' t know why 149 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,480 I made up the character I made up. Honestly, I think it was 150 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:52,200 an impulse and I guess the urge to count from somewhere. Well, I 151 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:54,200 don' t think there' s a problem with telling it. I mean, 152 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,840 I, for example, made myself up, it' s not that 153 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,720 it doesn' t matter. I made up the character of Erick, who 154 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:03,039 is the one who starts the story, who, well, touched me or 155 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:09,279 assigned me to see the story start. And well, it seemed interesting to 156 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,600 me that he was a kid who goes as a spectator and goes somehow to 157 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:20,759 see as a fan his great idol to Selene in this case, that he 158 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:24,679 is none of the quartet and that then, because he passes the perispecial that 159 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:31,320 happens to him about the process. It' s very interesting what I was 160 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,320 saying, wishing that everyone would write from the point of view of the character 161 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,399 I had chosen. But then we all rewritten what the others had written. 162 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,399 And then there' s one very important thing that' s clear. Here 163 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,159 we are four totally different authors, each one has his way of writing and 164 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,960 here we go blind, that is, it was an absolute faith. I 165 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,399 believe in history and above all in others, in fellow travelers, that is, 166 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:58,200 we do not know what is going to happen, because we had no 167 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,720 idea. We hadn' t worked out a plan, a plot, a 168 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,960 ladder. We weren' t discovering the story as we wrote it if it 169 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,879 caused it. Well, I think a lot of vertigo to us and I 170 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,879 hope that to the readers what provokes them above all, because it is what 171 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:15,559 happened to us, the desire to know what is going to happen in the 172 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,879 next chapter. And nothing if you want to count. Well, Belen, 173 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:24,720 who' s not here, chose the character of Rash He' s already 174 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,960 narrowing down the miste, which is this other spectator. Let' s say 175 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,799 that Erick iras, as Fernando said, because they are the two who go 176 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:37,639 as spectators, as fan in quotation marks, although rare is not fan of 177 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,480 anything at all. And, well, I don' t know if you 178 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,159 guys want to. The Ministry' s narrowed down. Evidently, Begoña and 179 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:50,000 I are betting on the world. Mom, I want to be an artist. 180 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,399 So I went to the dance, which is something I was excited about 181 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,759 and I really wanted. My character was Neill and Begoña, who reveals yours, 182 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:07,080 because you will imagine mine is happy and look. I recovered for this 183 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,559 interview. This is the little book that I took to the first meeting we 184 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:18,159 had, where you gave us that anando compass that you made us. And 185 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:20,639 of course I signed up here. But and I already signed up here candidate, 186 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,039 because I already thought singer, but look, I realize. I mean, 187 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,480 I read it today because I chose to be a good singer. She 188 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,960 ' s been studying piano since she was little. Her mother is a music 189 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:39,720 teacher and she lives the music in a very intense way. It' s 190 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,799 her only channel of true expression of what she is, because she' s 191 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:48,120 so much more than you can see. But when he sings when he acts, 192 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,879 when he composes, it' s all he can be. And actually, 193 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:54,639 I chose this to put poetry here so I could write poetry that then 194 00:14:56,159 --> 00:15:01,039 we all wrote poetry because we all wrote songs and we all did this work. 195 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:05,039 I mean, it was a little what I was saying about why we 196 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 also have other characters that aren' t these four, but I know any 197 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,600 One Smith, the mother of pleading with other people. Selene that it was 198 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:18,120 a bit like saxophone pasamel that has slugs I don' t care why you 199 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,200 know because we all wanted to play the instrument that the other had had a 200 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,080 moment ago in hand and that has been very churro this so and then the 201 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,600 surprise that Roberto said before also, that I think it is double, because, 202 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:31,879 on the one hand, you never know what will happen, because we 203 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,759 didn' t know about us, I mean really yes, that it is 204 00:15:35,759 --> 00:15:39,799 a novel where the turns are powerful, because it is written from four imaginations 205 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,600 that go in four directions and at the same time find a common place, 206 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,000 that I think that it has been very magical. But there' s also 207 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,919 a formal surprise, because you don' t know what you' re going 208 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,720 to find, who' s going to talk, how he' s going 209 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,000 to talk, so are the shifts. Yesterday he directed us in a way 210 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,240 that avoid monotony and then in our own shifts, because suddenly you said, 211 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,399 because we were something, the character and now I write something else. No. 212 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:04,720 And now an interview, or a jury appears, or the thought of 213 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:08,720 a secondary character appears, that is, it' s a novel that I 214 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:12,639 think is very surprising and traps a lot because you never know what' s 215 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,399 behind it, from the form and from the content, that that doesn' 216 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:18,279 t usually happen. And here it does happen when we passed that saxophone, 217 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,879 in my case with Nila, what happened to me and if I checked that 218 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,879 notebook that I also have it out there, but it' s kept with 219 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,279 all the notebooks of every book that I thought of as a dancer, because 220 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:34,080 I really wanted to. The dance seems to me a character like very lumen 221 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,159 of positive and to me, for example, it changed a lot the journey 222 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,159 that we made has come that for me it was fundamental, for everyone, 223 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:47,000 because we learned a lot, because it led me to a topic that I 224 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:52,360 did not expect to treat so much that it is the sexualization that there is 225 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,879 of the body in these festivals that complex struggle. Well, there' s 226 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:57,000 a series of themes, a little darker than I honestly hadn' t seen 227 00:16:57,039 --> 00:17:00,879 until once there I said opens up another life. And the trip also enriched 228 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 us a lot, because suddenly, what was a seita became something much more 229 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,839 interesting than to talk about And it' s other, quite powerful ones that 230 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,359 appear in the novel. Each person is not the first trip. He changed 231 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,720 everything, lit up the whole novel. It is impossible to have written this 232 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,119 novel without those days we spent there, which treated us very well. On 233 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,359 the other hand, we opened the festival, we saw rehearsals, of course, 234 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:30,680 we were in the finals, of course, we were in the penile 235 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,920 disco well, we tried to live a little bit of the festival from within 236 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,400 and that of course, that lit up all year, because it has been 237 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,000 a year of work of the novel. From that point of view of being 238 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:48,720 in there, I really talked about issues. I find it very interesting how 239 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:53,519 the themes have been emerging, as history has been emerging alone as it was 240 00:17:53,640 --> 00:18:00,799 passing from hand to hand all these topics that are appearing very important entity, 241 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,799 precisely from the audience to which you address in this strip fourteen, seventeen, 242 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,680 sixteen, which is fair. That' s where identity is being defined, 243 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,920 who I am looking for, drugs, success, social media, how you 244 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,960 ' ve been tackling it, and if there' s ever been anything you 245 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,839 ' ve said, that' s where I' m not going or getting 246 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:33,000 in. I think we' ve been very free in that sense, just 247 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,599 like with history. We haven' t agreed. Let' s talk about 248 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:41,319 this. No. I believe that the one that history itself has led us 249 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:45,720 to speak effectively about issues good for me, as I am very maniac, 250 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,279 there are things. The title, for example, I think it marks a 251 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 lot of Lovey Heid. The title was released by Begoña. The title is 252 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:59,680 released by Begoña. He gave me a soponcio because I said clearly that we 253 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,480 ' re going to talk about that too, about how this kind of festivals 254 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:07,119 and this kind of networks the important thing. How Yes, love is very 255 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,400 present, but the hete does not tell you and how. That marks absolutely 256 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,799 everything. And I think that theme, which from the title is already present, 257 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:19,519 conveys everything and then effectively, is that it is a clear age, 258 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:25,680 it is a border age that are always the most interesting ages of the border 259 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,599 ages, where you finish forming your identity as a person, where you change, 260 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,480 change, where everything goes wrong and suddenly the other way around, when 261 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,680 you fall in love, you fall in love more than anything in the world. 262 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,599 In short, it is an age from the literal point of view, 263 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:44,839 it is wonderful, of course, both the characters and the readers to whom 264 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:51,640 they address themselves by adding something to it that totally according to what Roberto says 265 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:53,640 And then that something that I believe joined us also to the four and I 266 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,480 don' t know how you see it too gona me, is that I 267 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,519 don' t think it is called authors who write from a topic, that 268 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:07,000 is, that we write since we want to tell, that the book excited, 269 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:08,559 that the book Atrape, that is, what you want is for the 270 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,640 story to come to you, because then the topics will come to you. 271 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:12,960 I mean, there' s no pedagogical proposal behind Amory Hate, but because 272 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:17,920 I think that in our books, if there' s some kind of message, 273 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:21,960 it' s born of history, that is, we don' t 274 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,599 underestimate the reader even when we write for children that there' s begoña and 275 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,640 Roberto has a lot more travel or for teenagers than I think it' s 276 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,160 key for these stories to reach them on all topics. Just like we talked 277 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,559 a lot about the argument, that is, our meal conversations were really fun 278 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,839 because we were fighting the argument and it was and where it goes and what 279 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:38,079 happens and who has the gun and where do we throw the gun? And 280 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,680 now that we do with a life gun it was and it wasn' t 281 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,640 about the issues. It was, so let' s talk about friendship and 282 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,240 not about it. That comes from history naturally, because, indeed, at 283 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,000 those ages, if our characters are seventeen eighteen years old, as they are 284 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,279 not going to worry about friendship, identity, who I am, what I 285 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,720 do with my life as a relationship with my parents, what weighed my mother, 286 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,559 or how great my mother, or that in the end, I think 287 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,279 that in that we have sought an enormous naturality. And then, on the 288 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,160 part of our editor, Berta and de sm I think we have been given 289 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,759 an absolute margin of freedom. At no time have we been asked not to 290 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:14,920 deal with certain issues. The other way around this novel gets into a lot 291 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:18,480 of puddles on purpose, because it' s also a novel that wants to 292 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:21,279 talk about a reality and you can' t talk about that reality without counting 293 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,720 its shadows. I don' t know how you see it begoña, but 294 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:26,920 we also came out of some puddles, memories guys. Yeah, sure, 295 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,319 yeah, yeah. I was remembering now it is true that we have had 296 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:34,400 total freedom, but I believe that another thing that I want to believe characterizes 297 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,200 us is that we have quite a sense of responsibility. I mean, just 298 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:47,079 like we don' t love teaching and we run away from it, but 299 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:52,720 we do know that what the things we tell come and we are responsible for 300 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,279 them and what a head can do for our readers, our readers, and 301 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:00,680 I remember you remind us at the beginning of a bathroom scene. Happened in 302 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,759 one way and we said we can' t approach this so quickly, because 303 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,000 to tell this we would have to develop it differently and tell the best. 304 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:14,839 And let' s do it another way. But it' s true that 305 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,160 we don' t have one issue either, one topic we' re going 306 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 to talk about this, this, this and the other. And what I 307 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,880 was saying is true that it is history that brings us to the issues. 308 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,559 In my case, I am a writer much more of characters than of stories. 309 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,720 Then it' s the characters who bring me to the subjects. I 310 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,079 mean, I was clear, for example, that from my character, that 311 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,839 she' s a girl who' s suddenly seen herself in a successful situation 312 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,119 at a very early age, I had to talk about loneliness, because there, 313 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,920 besides, that imbalance between who you are when you' re surrounded by 314 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,720 people and who it is when you get to your room, even if your 315 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:56,279 cell phone is burning with notifications, then I loved it. A few more 316 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,279 things. I liked this project is that, being a writer who is guided 317 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,880 by the characters and that I have always felt eye, I am not good 318 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,839 at the subject of making stories. I mean, here I freaked out with 319 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,880 my colleagues because it was like but what I' m so given. But 320 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,000 I mean, and I feel like I' ve learned a lot and now 321 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,960 I write better stories. Thank you, thanks to Nando, to Roberto Abelén, 322 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:22,599 because of course it was also that, you had a little responsibility. 323 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:29,880 Well, first, let your first readers be these people. It' s 324 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,839 a wonderful pressure and as they' ve played you before, because they' 325 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,519 ve left the chapter when they' ve passed it to you in a moment 326 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:41,559 you say, but you' re telling me, that is, now what 327 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,480 I' m going to do, because you have to say, then try 328 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,839 to come back. That' s why I think we' ve created a 329 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,839 story like a very fast- paced one, because we too have this obligation 330 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:53,720 not to do a damn thing, but yes, not to challenge ourselves. 331 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,119 And yes and then the themes were emerging from the story and we were rising 332 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,200 from the characters. And it' s true that I think it' s 333 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,079 a story with many twists, very fast, but we' ve gone a 334 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,119 lot deeper, a lot deeper on many big issues. Yeah, so it 335 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:18,920 looks like you' re looking at the deck and you' re saying aventuritas, 336 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,559 but I think we' ve gotten into some interesting depths. Totally. 337 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,839 I am thinking about the issue of mothers, for example, the different types 338 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:36,160 of mothers. How each motherhood is described and what the theme of fundamental, 339 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,559 fundamental friendship means to each of them, which I, as a reader, 340 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:48,880 also wanted to see the authors there. I don' t mean, I 341 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:52,960 mean, these are already linked to each other. And then one very important 342 00:24:53,079 --> 00:25:00,240 thing is the environment and this theme that you have chosen this excuse for the 343 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:07,720 festival. You were not afraid to put it with the coming Orfest, knowing 344 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:15,920 how you know and above all in nando that you live it precisely that love 345 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:23,960 and heite that produces that burning passion that is lived and how it could affect 346 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,119 that from the readers, that how they were going to take this novel, 347 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,720 because I believe that that was one of the motivations or the encouraging ones. 348 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,319 Not that mcdoum the excuse became a character. We have not said in any 349 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,480 interview that the coming to the rest is a character more and more than he 350 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:42,799 talks about how those passions are not exacerbated at that festival. It' s 351 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,240 good for any teenage mass phenomenon. Right now, in this edition, for 352 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:52,759 example, of operation triumph that coincided with the promotion of our novel. Well, 353 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,720 I remember that the program' s management had to issue a statement asking 354 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,200 that, please, the fandoms of the different singers that we talk about people 355 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:03,559 as young as they are not characters will not insult the rest and stop the 356 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,319 toxicity and families intervened. That is, we are in a moment where, 357 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,119 well, we have networks that can be used in many ways, viral phenomena 358 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,279 that arrive with a great draught and that adolescence touch you by a brutal intensity 359 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,759 and if in the adult world, this week has also happened with adult audience, 360 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,880 with Therack Race, again we have to ask people to please do not 361 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160 insult the winner, that is, we are in a moment where the herd 362 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:29,599 ate to love. So I think that, in my case, at least 363 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,160 will be an incentive of and when Roberto launched the proposal, to say that 364 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,039 it is wonderful to talk about this, because we are going to tell a 365 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,599 story that, besides, already has a framework that in itself is an interesting 366 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,559 topic and is an important reflection And how we manage all that and how difficult 367 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,640 it is to take you to those moments of loneliness that said begogne that is, 368 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,000 in the background it is a novel. The other day I read it 369 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,000 also before a meeting with young people and because now many ask you in those 370 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:56,960 meetings, even if you go to talk about another book. Sure, there 371 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,240 ' s a novel about the Fest Comer and you want to know about it. 372 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,880 And I realized that one topic that we' ve talked a lot about 373 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119 is mental health. That is, all the characters talk about how their mental 374 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,559 health is, what has influenced it sometimes class factors, as happens in a 375 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,160 thousand, factors of some social or school violence that have suffered, as we 376 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:21,400 discover little by little in eric factors of self- demand, how they can 377 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920 be in ras or in joy. I mean, it' s a novel 378 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,559 in which I think that the framework that it does is to empower us to 379 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,079 talk even more about these topics that do matter to us, but again, 380 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 from history it' s the character and I usually say that to the enormous 381 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,880 humility, always of the brilliant begogne. I pray, then, that we 382 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,079 have all learned a lot and I think it is something very nice that happens 383 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,279 in the book and whoever reads it carefully will notice it. It is that 384 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:49,319 we have spread in the four voices it is very noticeable how the characters are 385 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,559 contagion of friendship and the authors are contagion of friendship and of the way of 386 00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:56,759 writing. I mean, we' ve learned a lot. I' m 387 00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,119 very clear about that, too. I mean, no, we' re 388 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,640 not the same before we come. This is so, it' s an 389 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,160 incentive. I agree. By toasting a hundred percent fes comer get into that 390 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:17,920 puddle that is already from the start. It is a responsibility to say well, 391 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,880 because we are not going to deal with that apparent frivolity, but quite 392 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400 the opposite. Let' s go in, let' s scratch that there, 393 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,839 down there and let' s live this adventure and this friendship, but 394 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720 let' s also live all the toxic part that it has. Let' 395 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:34,359 s show her. And I think that' s what makes the novel, 396 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,759 because if, as Begoña says, it has a lot more depth and goes 397 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:45,240 further. I think we all share Begoña in that, that all that we 398 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,839 love most about writing stories are the characters, always not that it is the 399 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,359 creation of characters and that from there the story comes out. And then that 400 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,079 almost inevitably leads you to deal with certain issues and there is already the skill 401 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,880 and talent of each one. Or for the reader to ask himself questions, 402 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:08,680 I believe that after reading Morihei from the reader with a minimal interest that will 403 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,759 give him the reading. So many questions are asked, and I loved what 404 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:18,240 I said about mothers, which is clear we are here no mother waits and 405 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:23,319 that it is a subject that I am always passionate about. Evidently, the 406 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:27,079 family is what marks us all to begin with, for good and for bad, 407 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:32,559 and the mothers have a presence, at first more invisible, but then 408 00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:36,839 it is being much more visible in some case, especially and that it goes 409 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,799 to fabric, it does not go to fabric. Just as that pressure for 410 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:47,200 good or bad marks a great deal, no longer a child, but a 411 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:51,039 teenager or a young man, because if our characters are seventeen, eighteen years 412 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,319 old, some already the adult. Anyway, but there' s the mother 413 00:29:53,400 --> 00:30:02,839 figure there contributing or watching. According to everyone, luck is made because this 414 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,440 afternoon I' m going on a trip, I' m going to see 415 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:11,240 my mother and she just made me die. Hate ah already similar out there. 416 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,160 But, well, I' ll tell you as a teenage mother, 417 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,160 I' ll tell you what' s interesting. It' s interesting, 418 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,680 you have to read, you have to think and I don' t want 419 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:33,519 good of the four authors, just say that there are two authors who are 420 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,359 Begoña and Lein who of course are also mothers of teenagers or young people. 421 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,759 Let' s say and that we have had our children well, at least 422 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,519 I have my son, he' s been reading a day like us, 423 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:47,279 it' s that he told you how he loved it. That is to 424 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:52,640 say, as I see it when the next one comes, yes, in 425 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Spain help, we should not ask to help as author of Berta' s 426 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,559 sons, which also one of them, especially in ia we did very well. 427 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:03,920 Every time I said to you, I really dare to have my son 428 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,319 and total was like ah ok we go well. It' s just that, 429 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,759 besides, you' re very up- to- date, if I 430 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,279 don' t know if it' s also, apart from that well, 431 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:21,279 I understand that you' re very aware, very much in contact with your 432 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,559 audience and with that audience you' re writing, but that you can see 433 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:25,720 that effort to be there in that world that you' re addressing. And 434 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:30,920 I don' t want to fire you without talking about music, because I 435 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,319 think he' s one more protagonist of this book. How did you choose, 436 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 how did you take him, did you get carried away? That was 437 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,240 an improvised mix. Well, again, it' s been pretty improvised, 438 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,440 but of course, a novel that happens at a music festival, because music 439 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,839 had to be the protagonist. I think they are very bold all because we 440 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,119 not only bring known songs to the novel, but we have written song. 441 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,519 We' ve all written songs that appear in the novel. There are many 442 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:05,039 songs in this so much novel. The music is very present and I want 443 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,319 to believe. I want to believe that the novel itself has a musicality and 444 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,799 a sonority, as you should always have a good novel, but in this 445 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,680 case more if you can make it yes, at least it sounds to me. 446 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:17,720 It rings a bell. It' s a novel that sounds. And 447 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:27,519 if there' s going to be a second part in Eurovision, this is 448 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,279 to defend a clear contrast to how it travels flavor, go your way is 449 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,759 the first novel. But well, you know if it sounds like they' 450 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680 re not who we read, too. In fact, okay, so I 451 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:44,079 drop it there is that it' s next. Who knows. Who knows. 452 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:49,039 Imagine When we were last in Vendor, we said it there. Imagine, 453 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:55,799 imagine why not Spain wins Eurovision this year. Bets say no. But 454 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,880 it doesn' t matter. Imagine what the Eurovision Festival brings to Spain. 455 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,119 Imagine they' re bringing him to Comenor. Well, sure, we' 456 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,599 d have to be here that someone who gives them the invitation from here and 457 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,319 put on music our novel songs. We also have here a candidacy for the 458 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:20,160 Coming One. Faith that then comes to urovision. I mean, this can 459 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:24,000 be very interactive. There' s music and a lot of things we have 460 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,359 to leave open. Okay, yeah, a list of Spotify composers who cheer 461 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,799 up on the songs. We left it there. We left it there, 462 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,039 but we want more. That' s mostly congratulations to the four of us, 463 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,960 because it' s really a very original experience, very funny, you 464 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,319 read it right away. I think it also goes, against such a media 465 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:52,720 background, it will bring a lot of readers, of readers also that it 466 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,839 is always good not to enrich and increase the number of readers, already immense. 467 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Friends. So congratulations to the four or the three in this case, 468 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,840 because Bethlehem has not been able to join. But a thousand thanks for your 469 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,800 time here with love Anheite, let' s all four of us. So 470 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,039 then we take out the posita. There it is. Thank you so much, 471 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880 Begoña, Roberto Onando. Thank you and I' m sure I' 472 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,639 ll talk to you another time. I' m convinced a hug for everyone. 473 00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,079 Thank you so much, Monica, thank you very much. And since 474 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:38,559 we didn' t want to leave without including the fourth voice of this love 475 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,480 and Hete, we waited a little bit. We have resorted to the magic 476 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:49,440 of podcasting and have Bethlehem do Fegui with us. Good morning, Bethlehem, 477 00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,480 how are you? Good morning, very well, very happy to be here 478 00:34:52,480 --> 00:35:00,000 already. We couldn' t have you with your partners, but not two 479 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,079 of us. I said a lot to chat with you that you are also 480 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,800 the only one of the four with whom we hadn' t had the luxury 481 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:12,039 to talk here on good morning, mothers, so wait so I especially wanted 482 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:17,880 to chat with you and meet you and tell us about your participation in this 483 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:25,360 original work, so fun and that already your fellow co- authors told us 484 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719 about the adventure that you had been writing this book. Tell us a little 485 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,639 bit Belem what the first thing happened to you, how this project comes to 486 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:36,480 you. Yeah, well, I got it right. I went to see 487 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:40,960 it is in a beautiful play by Roberto Santiago and at the exit there was 488 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:49,519 like a small cocktail. That' s good for the premiere and there editor 489 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Berta proposed it to me. I knew they couldn' t imagine what it 490 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,280 was going to be, but the company was already so good and the project 491 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,239 so interesting that I said yes and nothing. I was thinking that whenever they 492 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:13,239 ask us about this, we always talk about how well we really have had 493 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,119 it and about the friendship that has arisen between us, but that to me 494 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:24,039 as what is being put more inside me is also the characters, not that 495 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:31,840 it is like this feeling that your character is better, because other people have 496 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,760 written dialogues of that character, they have put him to do things that you 497 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,320 did not expect and the other way around that you could be part of a 498 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,360 little bit of another character, that it was precious that I had created it 499 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,800 to another person. And that' s all of a sudden I' m 500 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,920 going to walk and I' m going to say but if these are privileges, 501 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,800 that this isn' t, this hasn' t happened to me in 502 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,239 life, not like characters, and it' s also what I think people 503 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,039 who read it can find, not like suddenly there' s going to be 504 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,960 characters that are actually more like people, because people also do a lot of 505 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,679 people, they don' t just make us one. In addition, I 506 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:19,360 find this very interesting because in the eyes of the reader we are always clear 507 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:27,320 who has written what we are reading and we are influenced by the author and 508 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,400 in this case, at least I, before talking to you, did not 509 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:38,079 know what I would have written. Everyone then also has something interesting, clear 510 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,639 and really yes without knowing it, because not only because there have been many 511 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,639 corrections and where we have each touched chapters of others, we have not touched 512 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,800 our own, but because, especially to the extent that suddenly an author or 513 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,960 an author puts your character to do something that you had not even crossed your 514 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,639 head and you, then you continue with the idea that the other person has 515 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,199 introduced, with that action, you are no longer writing it, even if 516 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,079 you are writing it, because you are continuing an adventure that another person has 517 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:19,880 begun. So it' s really true that it' s written to eight 518 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,920 humans. It' s not every chapter, every person, but and that 519 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,440 does seem to me to be a nice one from the outside, not seeing 520 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,639 as there are four lives there working together, and that' s what comes 521 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,440 to you, that you can' t imagine. This is what he wants 522 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:39,440 to convey to me. I don' t know who' s not all 523 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,800 intertwined. Of course, it seems to me that it is a new experience 524 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,920 and different to perhaps other more conventional readings, so to call it and that 525 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:58,639 it has its special incentive beyond the fact that you are four that already congress 526 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:07,039 there are reading audiences each will arrive each for each author, each author. 527 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,119 And besides, and this is what I wanted to ask you, about the 528 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,920 subject matter, about that context as concrete as it is the Fan Fest, 529 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,880 that maybe, I don' t know you in your case how you caught 530 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:30,679 it and knew it, if you didn' t know it, if you 531 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,000 were Eurofan or TeV already out of generation, because in my case the truth 532 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,559 that caught me quite far away, I mean it was the first thing I 533 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:42,840 told Berta they didn' t know very well this, I mean, I 534 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,480 would have to go and told me, of course, that he and I 535 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,719 was even more impressed. And I didn' t know him. It hardly 536 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,800 happened that in this edition if I had enough links through my children, because 537 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,719 one of the singers to Lice Wonder, because I had been in the same 538 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,119 school as my oldest son and well, and then they got together many coincidences 539 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:17,880 that made me stay even closer to that edition. But it was like a 540 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,440 dive to get you into a world that you know how it is. And 541 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:27,039 besides, well, I think that' s also good that there were looks 542 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,320 of people who were from authors who were really close to the festival for different 543 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,840 reasons. Roberto for Vendor, I swim for Europan maybe, then I sing 544 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,840 for the music. But it is also good that there is a loss of 545 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,960 extraterrestrial, because also so is the life that suddenly someone lands in a space 546 00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:55,480 that is not their own and they let themselves become able look at this question 547 00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,440 is not told to your companions, but what it feels like that you have 548 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:13,519 contributed your belengo pegi to all this shared script that you have made memoremia really, 549 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:21,519 honestly I could not answer you, because it is that already from the 550 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,320 beginning they asked us how it will be our character and each one we said 551 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,239 so, it will be more or less. So a few minimal traits to 552 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,760 make it clear who started writing and who still had that data. But all 553 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,239 of a sudden there was my character saying and doing things that seemed great to 554 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,719 me and that I knew I wouldn' t have been able to imagine them. 555 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:51,239 Not then do I think I don' t know what we' ve 556 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,519 got, it' s just that it' s been a symbiosis or, 557 00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:57,480 whatever it' s called, very beautiful. It gives me a thing to 558 00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,480 say, but it does. Not then I don' t know, I 559 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:07,039 don' t think I' ve contributed anything unique, but we' ve 560 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,920 all been intertwined. That may have to be asked the rest of the truth 561 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,679 and asked among the four what the others have contributed. I find it an 562 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:23,400 interesting exercise because in the end, with styles, in the end styles so 563 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,599 particular each, but at the same time sharing a common audience. Well, 564 00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:32,119 then, it' s curious to see what is there about You, what 565 00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,440 is there about others and more, in your cases, what this book has 566 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:45,480 meant to you, this step in your career, your professional career. Well, 567 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:50,920 then, on the one hand, a gift, because let' s 568 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:54,880 say I' m the veteran of the group and that by age and that 569 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,599 at this age I can keep doing new things and get into those environments. 570 00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:04,239 Well, it' s actually one of the reasons I write. No, 571 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,920 because you' re always there. When you write, you' re always 572 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,920 looking. No, you can' t be even more shy or less shy, 573 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,960 more introspective, whatever. You need to open up outside to attend to 574 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,639 the reality that you then use in your books. Then it' s like 575 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,239 I can go on like this and then it' s gone. What else 576 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,280 did you ask me? Yes, I have meant to you basically yes, 577 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,159 yes, such an original and so different work. What does it mean, 578 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,679 you who are accustomed to normal or at most, to collaborate with illustrators or 579 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:52,880 two other people, but both a team as complete as a sort of superhero 580 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:59,239 avengers yes, yes, of course, I know the other thing. This 581 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:04,719 is clear, because, for example, in my novels there is action in 582 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:12,239 another way. No, and here I saw a lot of passion because things 583 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:19,079 happened and that stimulated me because it was like saying good. And what happens 584 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:25,639 when things happen that aren' t imaginable, but that can happen or the 585 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:34,440 other way around, don' t see, I don' t know, 586 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440 for me even even small shapes of the style, you don' t know, 587 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,119 it' s like suddenly you open up your field of work. And 588 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:45,559 because not only do you see that there are other ways of writing, that 589 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,800 you only see how much you read, but those ways are entering into your 590 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,079 writing. And somehow we also needed the book Good that for that we had 591 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:59,519 the berdad figure, which has been magnificent, but we also had to make 592 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,920 ourselves. We could go out for little ones, because we were aware of 593 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,679 the unity of history and that' s adapting. I think it' s 594 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:16,119 a really good way to know how you end up being a better writer when 595 00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:21,760 you get rid of your own ego in some way, and the Book This 596 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,679 has helped us all and everyone to that and I can imagine it because besides, 597 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:34,760 you all add up to an intentional amount of publications and that suddenly the 598 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:42,239 four of the most read authors and the most read authors in children' s 599 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,639 and young people' s audiences put their names together. It has to be 600 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:57,320 an exercise to see how these tremendous egos are integrated, not because you have 601 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,599 them, but because in the end you are accustomed to having your style and 602 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,719 that is the one that people demand from you clearly and that to describe in 603 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,519 general is a very lonely task. So, that' s what I have 604 00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,480 more film experience. But I' ve done some script too. And so 605 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:20,719 when you do a script it' s very strange the first time you suddenly 606 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,559 see that you fill is a tool and that twisting it isn' t throwing 607 00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,800 or I don' t know what, but you' re already thinking because 608 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,480 you say well, it' s a script. I give them this and 609 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:36,440 even if I don' t want them to do such a thing, but 610 00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,519 they need it to work and because the film is everyone' s, but 611 00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:40,159 in a black it' s the opposite. As a matter of fact, 612 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,599 I' ve done so many. I always go back to the book as 613 00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:47,599 with the great happiness and well here no one will touch me anything and then 614 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:52,199 suddenly. But of course, when someone touches you it' s not like 615 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,239 in the cinema they suddenly take a scene from you, because there' s 616 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,760 no money to rent. I don' t know where it is and it 617 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,599 makes you angry, but it' s not like you' re being touched 618 00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,679 by people who respect and look at a lot. So it' s like 619 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,599 saying good how well I mean, I can keep learning and that' s 620 00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:15,159 really nice. We also talked to Begoña, for example, in the case 621 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:22,719 because she is also a mother like you your children have read told me that 622 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,239 precisely yours or your son do not know exactly, but that they had been 623 00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,199 participants in the review reading. What a feedback you' ve had for him. 624 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:39,159 Yeah, well, nothing. I' ve had a lot of fun 625 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,360 because the older one was quite Europan, especially what his friend was doing, 626 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,639 we' re pretty happy. I don' t know his name. And 627 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,440 then, because he was very interested and if he told me, he gave 628 00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,440 me ideas and we had a great time. And then the little girl said 629 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:05,440 that she was being sabotaged, that is, she was being painted by her 630 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,199 life because of course I was taking things that she had told me even four 631 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,480 years ago of unhappy loves or whatever it was and introduced them in some way, 632 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,559 evidently always filtered by the character. But she certainly said such a thing 633 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,320 I don' t know what you have to give me right. Nothing. 634 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,000 We' ve had a lot of laughs. Of course I didn' t 635 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:39,760 think when I read you how much when you want to address a young audience 636 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:46,199 so different from your generation, how much writing for them involves making concessions on 637 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:52,519 how you want to talk in style or on choosing expressions that you choose because 638 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:57,719 you know they' re coming or because you like them you know how much 639 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,719 you move there on that line. I' m doing this to you because 640 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,000 I know you' re gonna like it, but I' m not. 641 00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:08,599 I think that in general, we don' t do that, because what 642 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:15,360 you do when at least I do the work that I do mental, so 643 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:21,800 to say, yes, that' s trying to put me in the or 644 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,599 it' s something very difficult, which is trying to imagine what someone doesn 645 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:29,320 ' t know, not clear and there you do have to adapt, because 646 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,559 they don' t have to know things. I don' t mean cultured 647 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,679 things like I don' t know what, but it' s a good 648 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,360 thing it' s opening up in your head and opening up your life. 649 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,639 So if you haven' t lived a lot of things, there are things 650 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,800 you don' t have to know, and that' s a job that 651 00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:52,519 mostly cost me a lot the first time I wrote for this audience. But 652 00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,039 then once I was doing it, I mean it' s kind of something 653 00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:59,280 you' re having, and that' s it, but the other thing 654 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,000 isn' t, because besides, I think it all goes away very quickly, 655 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,840 so suddenly and you use an expression and tomorrow it' s super old 656 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,519 one, as they would say now and past until old one doesn' t 657 00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:15,800 understand. Then you don' t do it there. You do it like 658 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,760 when you write, because it has to do with the character' s tone. 659 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,079 He' s talking to you, but just like you build his way 660 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,280 of being, at least it' s my way. I think it' 661 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,639 s everyone' s that we' re not there like we' re looking. 662 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,280 I don' t know how to bend down to talk to a little 663 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,599 boy I mean, you talk to him from who you are, knowing that 664 00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:49,280 there are things he doesn' t know and that you need to explain them. 665 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:53,119 To conclude, projects that with your colleagues did not give us time, 666 00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:59,079 because of course, with the three and you are always writing, that you 667 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,599 have preparation, because you are always here things. It' s fantastic. 668 00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:07,679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That' s no, because now 669 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:13,719 I' m with a novel that I' m already going to be advanced, 670 00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,480 but then with the usual work of going from one side to the other, 671 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:24,480 from one institute to the other and I just published a book essays and 672 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,760 I don' t know, I don' t know what will become of 673 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,679 me in the future. So you know how not. No, no or 674 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,079 many long- term plans, but the truth would burn illusion that we were 675 00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:44,960 capable. I don' t know how to see this in pictures, not 676 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,039 this book. I don' t know. I have nothing concrete now, 677 00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:58,119 but it does seem to me that it would be a good culmination, for 678 00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:02,239 yes and indeed, we were saying that. He also needs a soundtrack, 679 00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:14,719 he needs to get those songs out. If that music comes out, we 680 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,880 need to hear it. Seeing it would be a wonder and beyond if we 681 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:29,519 put ourselves, because who knows how to travel to Eurovision. There are no 682 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,639 limits here. There are no limits, and the story there are the protagonists 683 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,199 invite to it, so here we ask you later, since it is what 684 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:45,360 they have to be very well, because Bethlehem, thank you so much for 685 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:52,480 your time to approach you this little while to be able to complete and listen 686 00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:59,679 to the four that made me very excited and nothing that there is much luck, 687 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,960 that we continue to see more of love Anheit, that it goes great 688 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:06,840 and that there are more things, then to buy everything that you say. 689 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:14,159 And well, thanks to you for your show and all friends. Now with 690 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,920 this interview we close this episode dedicated to Moranheit. We leave you the sights 691 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,320 of all the authors that clear, with all the works that each one has 692 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,440 we could be a complete program. So, we leave the videos of the 693 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,000 authors and the authors in our program notes and all the information about the book 694 00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:40,079 about Amorandhead published by sm that you can already make with him in all your 695 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:45,079 bookstores, especially those of neighborhood so that you can enjoy the adventures of these 696 00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:51,280 four protagonists of Eric cheers Mil and Ras and enjoy as much as their authors 697 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,519 have enjoyed, that that would be a small part already, because they have 698 00:53:54,519 --> 00:54:00,519 had a great time and that is what we are going to stay. Thank 699 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,880 you, a very strong hug and I' m sure we' ll speak 700 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:31,400 again a very big hug. Thank you, Grace,