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Hello, and welcome to the Dynasty
Dude Podcast. I am your host,

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Corey Evans. Thank you for listening
to this week's show. It is titled

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Rookie Wall or a Bust. I
have five rookies to discuss with a Dynasty

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long term perspective in mine. I
will preface I had come up with a

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creative episode title, but I don't
think any rookie in the NFL today is

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a bust, not even Quentin Johnston
with his drop issues we've seen over the

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past few weeks. It's far too
early to write off someone that has the

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pedigree or draft capital that we were
intrigued by only a short few months ago.

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We are now eleven weeks into the
twenty twenty three campaign, which is

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a solid but not large enough setle
size of data to truly determine the career

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arc of any rookie, prospect or
now player in the NFL, So keep

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that in mind. Even though some
could be labeled a bust, I'm not

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quite there yet. Before I get
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Rookie wall or a bust up?
First is Bryce Young, who I think

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many will label in that bust category, and I caution you to do so.

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A lot of factors that are working
against him. He's only twenty two

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first overall pick out of Alabama.
Size was the one caveat to his upside

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as a pro at five ten two
oh four some website tad and listened at

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one to ninety four post NFL draft. For the most part, though,

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it sounds like he is right around
a two hundred pound range, give or

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take a fee lbs in either direction. So far, Bryce completing sixty two

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point one percent of his passes for
five point three yards per attempt, both

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of which are well blow his college
norms. The accuracy is puzzling, but

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the yards per attempt downfield are downright
Dreadfield's one of the worst numbers I've seen

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out of a starting quarterback in quite
some time. He missed Week three with

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an injury, otherwise has been available
for Carolina with inconsistent performances bryce one or

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fewer passing touchdowns and eight contests.
He's had three passing touchdowns only once.

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That was in Week five at Detroit, representing one of his best showings of

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the season. Young is making some
outright bad decisions. If you watch a

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film or any Carolina game, you
know what I mean. The footwork in

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the pocket at times appears stuggish as
he drops back to pass go through progressions.

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Conversely, factors as I alluded to, such as timid play calling with

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either Frank Reich or Thomas Brown,
below average supporting cast of weapons. Adam

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Thielen is a volume hawk, sure, but wrong side of thirty is not

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what he used to be in his
elite prime as in Minnesota. If he's

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your facto number one, that's a
problem, not to mention mediocre to subpar

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offensive line support, and we saw
it on full display a meek eleven against

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Dallas, where Young was sacked left
and right. That's all working against Bryce

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succeeding as a rookie to this point. Carolina is not. And I want

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to stress this's the same fantasy friendly
environment like Houston is CJ. Stroud,

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or even Indianapolis was for Anthony Richardson
before injury. Young has a lot less

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to work with in order to produce. If you were to insert Young in

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those schemes with Houston or Indianapolis,
I promise you would look a lot better

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than what we've seen in Carolina.
That is part of the value assessment conversation

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for any rookie quarterback. And I've
had Bryce Young as QB one up until

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my latest quarterback ranking show over on
Patreon, where that is now CJ.

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Stroud among those three, I still
like Young more than Richardson long term because

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I don't know if ar can change
his mindset of being a running, mobile

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quarterback. That's not going to work, as we saw in twenty twenty three

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before he was injured out for the
year, because you take enough hits,

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especially to a throwing shoulder, you're
not gonna be able to last in the

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NFL. Let's go back to Bryce
Young. Passing volume has not been an

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issue. The Panthers are routinely facing
negative gamescript and he has hit or eclipsed

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thirty one PAS attempt at eight different
games. Therefore, process over results is

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if you're trotting Young in your lineup
out there, you're hoping for volume,

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and he's your quarterback two in a
super flex league. Unfortunately, the results

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have not been in line with the
rational thinking of said pass volume equating to

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production. From a fantasy point of
view, his season high in yards passing

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checks in at two forty seven,
season low checks in at one to twenty

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three. That accounts for an unpredictable
floor and near non existent ceiling, particularly

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in one quarterback league. Now,
Brece Young sure off to a bat star

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as a pro, but as I
mentioned earlier on this show, it's far

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too soon to label hammer anyone a
bust, especially a former Heisman Trophy winner

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coming out of Nick Saban's Alabama regime, which is usually transferable to the NFL.

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We've seen that at sowy positions,
both offensively and defensively. I remain

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confident about his ability to process information
downfield, offer plus accuracy, and own

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or display that innate playmaking ability.
It could take time, sophomore leap,

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third year until Bryce Young is what
we thought he was going to be,

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or at least three quarters of that
ceiling. That being said, he is

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very difficult to trust rest of season
in a one quarterback super flex two quarterback

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format no matter what it is.
He's more of a bet on future upside

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as the Panthers add more talent to
its offensive depth chart. Like I said,

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You're not going to win football games
with Adam Fielder's wide receiver one or

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Terres Marshall. This is Channault,
DJ Shark, Tommy Tremble, Hayden Hurst,

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Miles Sanders, Truba Hubbard. You
get the picture. Bryce Young does

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not have a lot of top tier
supporting cast members like TJ. Stroud does

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with Tank Dell or Nico Collins,
Dalton Schultz, Devin Singleteer. You get

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the picture. That's the point I
want to get. Context is everything,

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and at this point, Bryce Young
is in a bad fantasy environment. Does

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I mean he's a bust? He's
hit a rookie wall, that's for sure.

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Zay Flowers, He's twenty three,
twenty second overall pick out of Boston

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College. Some undoubtedly question his side
at five nine two out of school.

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To this point, Zay's smaller stature
has not proven to be an issue.

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Instead, it's been a lack of
consistency sending from viowel usage and fewer big

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plays than were known or accustomed to
being associated with Flowers and a set of

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tools on the football field, at
least at the collegiate level. And there's

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Week twelve at Baltimore, a fifty
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on seventy two targets, seven rushes
nineteen yards. The Deebo Samuel Rowl was

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a bit overstated. We haven't seeing
that sort of Versaly usage yet. If

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Flowers had a few more receiving touchdowns
on his rookie resume this year, the

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narrative surrounding his outlook would be far
more optimistic. That is, for sure,

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one touchdown on fifth three catches and
seventy two targets means he's been a

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bit unlucky with find the end zone. With various injuries to a shot bateman

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Odell Beckham, throughout most of this
year, Zay has essentially operated as Baltimore's

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wide receiver one as results volume has
been up for distribution behind Mark Andrews private

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injury running backs Gus Edwards, Keeta
Mitchell, Justice Hill. Early on in

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the campaign was JK. Dobbins,
which means we should not be surprised with

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this per game target totals so far
being ten, five, ten, four,

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eleven, eight, six, seven, one, six and four.

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Those numbers should climb even more with
Mark Andrews presumably out for the rest of

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the season or at least until the
postseason after the fibula and ankle injuries sustained

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in Week eleven, devastating blow to
the Ravens offense and fantasy alike. Save

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Flowers has yet to clear seventy eight
yards receiving in a single game to date.

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That came in Week one. Fortunately, he's been serviceable enough from a

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county sets perspective, with at least
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seventy eight yards being the top or
peak and his value has been disappointing to

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say the least. Nonetheless, what
Say is able to do with the ball

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in his hands after the catchpoint with
speed and agility is special. Remain patient

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with him as a wide receiver three, with long term wide receiver two upside

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even a wide receiver one season in
fantasy cannot be ruled out if he develops

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into the Ravens top pass catcher over
time. Given the body frame once again

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five nine two, I'm not sold
that the Ravens won't add an impact free

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agent or select another wide out first
round, second round and a loaded twenty

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one for a crop next year,
making Zay more of a number two.

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Thanks true number one. But if
he is, and him and Lamar on

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the same page, and they iron
this offense out being led by Todd Monkin,

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then the sky is truly to limit. He is not as talented as

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a Deebo Samuels for comparisons out of
bust in college four ze, but they're

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receiving and at the constability upside surely
exists. He is not a bust.

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However, no denying that at times
Zave Flowers has hit the perceived rookie wall.

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How about Rochean Johnson, not like
chatters surrounding him in don Ce Circles

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lately twenty two years old, fourth
rounder out of Texas similar to his time

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in college behind b John Robinson,
Rochean playing second fiddle, even third fiddle

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to both Cleveland Herbert and Deontay Foreman
in twenty twenty three as a rookie.

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To this point for the year,
his output stands at forty four rushes for

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about ninety seven one touchdown, four
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then nineteen grabs ninety one yards on
twenty three targets, which are below expectations.

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Since many assumed that Rochan could push
for everyone duties right out of camp

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preseason week one in Chicago, that
has not been the case. He has

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ideal size six feet two twenty five
coupled with fluid rushing ability, pass projecting

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chops that should keep on the field
eventually and reliable hands. Underrated at that

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as a receiver, it's only a
matter of time until Johnson is featured or

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earns a bit more work for the
Bears. Where at that time comes this

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season in the future, that's up
for debates. Since Foreman has been performing

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at a high level in Herbert's absence. Herbert returned this past weekend, have

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plenty of volume. He's the assume
starter when active and healthy. It does

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not help matters either that Chicago is
one of the worst teams in all football

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for game flow or efficiency purposes.
Until we see an increase in snaps or

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total touches. Rochans should be on
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I wouldn't be surprised on the flip
side if the Bears decide to ramp

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up Roashwan's workload a bit after the
week thirteen by as most coaches teams tend

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to do with rookies brought along slowly
out of the bye week. Suddenly here's

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your opportunity to prove your worth.
The issue with the running back of Roshan's

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caliber is he's a fourth round pick, so it doesn't have that Day one

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or early Day two draft capital that
would virtually guarantee him a roll right out

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of the gate. He's on the
RB four RB five radar if not offering

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some flex appeal or upside at some
stage of the season. There's hope that

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a sophomore leap is in the cards
for next year, since Khleil Herbert is

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a free agent in twenty twenty five. But Deontay Foreman hits you of market

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in twenty twenty four, and I'm
surprised the Bears and not recuperate some draft

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capital and cash out on Foreman at
the NFL's deadline, because there's no need

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for him on a team that's essentially
tanking for a top five pick in twenty

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twenty four. Right now, I
would be going to offer a twenty twenty

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four third Rookey draft pick. From
a don's perspective for ro Sean hoping on

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future dividends, you're not baking out
into twenty twenty three. But the talent

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does remind me of a more agile
AJ Dillon in terms of the size,

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speed, profile, leticism, things
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right back, rookie Waller bust might
go. Mayer twenty two years old.

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Check around selection out Notre Dame who
pre drafts you as arguably the most complete

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tight end prospect in the twenty twenty
class, despite Delta kin kid superior route

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running, receiving traits, even Sam
laport in that mix right now, in

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terms of pure value, we'd rank
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flip flop those two. But the
third option would be Michael Mayer. If

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you question ten people, I'm sure
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Don't think that's a mistake. But
I also think that Mayor has the same

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skill set or ceiling asking Kaid and
LAPORTA long term. Yes, he was

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quiet from Hes one to five with
Amy r three catches to show for until

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his Week six outburst or mini breakout
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versus New England. Since then,
Michael Mayer scored his first touchdown in Week

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ten, but otherwise it has been
kept at bay In terms of emerging and

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what's becoming a vanilla offense led by
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what I find most discouraging is that
Mayor hasn't caught more than five passes in

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a single game. Despite the Raiders
lack of playmakers outside of Devonte Adams,

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Josh Shakeups or even Jacobe Myers.
I am still all in on Mayor becoming

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a fixture at tight end for the
Las Vegas Raiders. As a franchise,

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they building block for the team.
As we all know, tight end production

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or development isn't linear, so what
Kinkaid does doesn't mean that Laporta will do

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or even Mayor. It takes time
to acclimate to the pro level, so

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patients is required. Even if the
lack of involvement is frustrating despite clear glimpses

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of top tier skills being out displayed
when targeted, the issue at hand is

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that Mayor's snap rate more to come
on that soon is not aligning with his

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on field production or box scores.
As a result, more of a tight

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end two for twenty twenty three could
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Undoubtedly, though, could become a
popular breakout candidate as a sophomore,

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assuming the Raiders address quarterback over the
offseason via fregency or the draft. So

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if you don't want to spend a
premium on King cad To Laporta or a

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Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, Hockinson, Pitts Goddard, anyone in that upper

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tier range, then pivot to Mayor. Pay what was usually a second round

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pick in any format and target him
now for a late second or maybe two

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thirds gets it done. There are
people panicking who have roster Michael Mayer and

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spent a late first, early midsecond
on him. Trust me, it happens

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every year at oppositions, and I
am sure that people are on the wrong

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side of that equation thinking that Mayor
is a bust. He's simply not.

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Snap rights indicates becoming a full time
player for the Raiders offense. Since we

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eight of ninety one percent, eighty
eight percent, eighty eight percent and eighty

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percent more often talent win's out and
trusting the process in terms of draft capital,

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college production or pedigree means a lot. And I'm only to bank that

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mayor will pan out and so may
shape or form. The usage is simply

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not on par with Kinkaid or the
Porter for comparison's sake, going apples to

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apples for rookie prospects in twenty twenty
three. Last, but not least,

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how about Kendre Miller. He's only
twenty one third rounder out of TCU youth

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immediately stands out jumps off the page
when discussing Miller as he could be in

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line for opportunities and as soon as
twenty twenty four or not far after.

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As Alvial Kamara and Jamal Williams age
on with their contracts, they're both UFAs

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and twenty twenty six. That means
unrestrict the free agents, but both have

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outs or possible outs in their contracts. Beforehand, Expecting ken Dre to contribute

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much as a rookie was far fetched. Outside of when Kamara was suspended.

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Miller did not debut himself because of
injuries until week three, and as filled

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they changed a pace roll with stat
lines of twenty eight carries for eighty three

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yards only three yards per carry,
and nine catches for one hundred and eleven

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yards on ten targets prior to start
of this upcoming Week twelve with a total

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three miss contest due to injury and
now out of the Week eleven by There's

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a chance that Miller's healed up could
see additional reps as regular season unfolds.

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That versatility and explosiveness as a rusher
that we saw a TCU and really made

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him a prominent prospect have not disappeared. It's a matter of being available on

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the field, and I think the
way in for Miller from our perspective,

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to carve out works value is usurping
Jamal Williams. Williams has been ineffective in

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twenty twenty three with two point nine
yards for clip on forty five carries,

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compared to his dominant twenty twenty two
season with the Lions, where he went

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off for a two sixty two ten
sixty six seventeen rushing effort that jow Williams

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seems to have come and gone,
or at least a situation of how he

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was utilizing Detroit compared New Orleans is
night and day different. Once again,

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though Hendre Miller was and still is
a bet on future dividends as Kamara is

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eventually going to be scaled back or
phased out like most A twenty eight running

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backs. The key is to invest
in Miller before that time comes. You

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could benefit from his obvious potential a
feature running back in the NFL. I'm

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not promising he's going to main healthy
because even at TCU he missed a lot

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of pre draft events due to his
meniscus or knee injury. So dating back

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to the college levels, even in
those concerns, and that's my main issue

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with Miller is the lack of their
ability, which keeps his doney stock in

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my opinion. In more, in
the second round rookie draft pick range's opposed

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to a first rounder, and given
how loaded the twenty twenty four crop is,

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we're talking one quarterback. I'd say
Kendry Miller mid second, late second

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in a best case scenario in terms
of requiring him, but in super flex,

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I would not be shocked if you
send out a twenty four to third

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for Miller. Someone took that pick
because they think Miller's quote unquote a bust

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because of his discourage. You start
as a rookie, it takes time.

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And I want to stress this,
emphasize it, and make it crystal clear

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that not all prospect development is linear. There are so many different ways that

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a quarterback, running back, wide
receiver, tenant can emerge. So yes,

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all five names I discussed have all
hit the rookie walls at some point

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in twenty twenty three. Do I
think they're bust? No? Are there

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some trending in a bus direction.
Could be, but it's far too small

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of a sample size. Or use
six thermometer to freak out, panic and

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sell for pennies and a dollar.
That's not where we're at as a sophomore.

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If the struggs continue, then there's
a conversation to be had. Hope

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you all enjoyed this week's episode,
a quick recap of the five rookie wall

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or a bust player I described,
Bryce Young, Zay Flowers, Roshawn Johnson,

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Michael Mayer, and KeAndre Miller.
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