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Life tremendous. Right after this,
we will be talking Boston Bruins, introducing

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our special guest today one of the
top people in the media on the Boston

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Bruins, Fluto shinn't Azawa of The
Athletic. How you doing today, Fludo,

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I'm great, Jesse, thanks for
having me. So great to have

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you to talk about the Bruins.
Tell you what we said it last year.

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The Bruins pushed in their chips.
With a dominant team in twenty two

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to twenty three, there would have
been plenty of reasons to think the team

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could have fallen off significantly, and
while the overall record dropped out of the

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stratosphere and just into the sort of
the top of the league, they remained

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one of the best teams in the
NHL. They threw Toronto into disarray once

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again after a game seven winning Round
one of the playoffs, fell again to

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the future champs in Round two,
the Florida Panthers. That is, for

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the second year. It wasn't an
upset this time, at least not by

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records, and frankly, maybe it
never was. Florida was a heck of

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a team last year as well.
We'll talk about the goalies later, who

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had a lot to do with this, but that amazing tandem is now broken.

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Up, and they made some other
offseason upgrades from this year to the

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coming one. Is Boston likely foot
out to stay near the top of the

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East, And is the contention window
for this team still open? Still open?

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Yep. I think we'll see the
goalie that state make a progression in

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his development. I think they're more
satisfyed with the defense now. It's a

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big investment in Nikida's a door off
well. I think that's critical, just

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because they needed somebody on that left
side to slot in behind Hampus, Linholm

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and the whole defense. I think
they're hoping, and I think they're projecting

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that the defense will be better.
Historically that's always been a strength. You

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look at the number as there really
wasn't. That was an average defensive time

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team, which is unusual for the
Bruins. Last year, the goalten was

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excellent and it allowed them to go
over some of their defensive deficiencies. So

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I would expect the defense to be
better. And then you still have some

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primarily one chain Puiller up front with
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carry the day. Martian is still
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then Linnholm, Elias Linholm. That's
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had to be done just because that's
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the playoffs. We saw they had
trouble five on five scoring, so he

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should help, I'm playing with Posternak
should help, and then that puts everybody

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else in their proper spots. So
by the top of the East, no,

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but they'll be right there. Let's
get into that David Posternak, because

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he had a pretty phenomenal season.
He was eighth in hard voting, fifth

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in points per game and total points. He outscored the next highest ruin,

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who is Brad Marshan, by forty
three points. Forty three points is a

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pretty good season for a regular NHLer, and he bested one of the better

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players by quite a lot. He
was the eighth best forward in our league.

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Are tidy scoring settings. Looking at
reasons why this might not continue,

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he had a slight increase in his
time on ice. His PDO was a

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little high, so was his IPP. But I don't think any of these

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are outrageous, and he's had some
of these numbers be similarly high in the

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past. I think the biggest thing
miss Pasternak is what you can alluded to

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to, talent around him isn't what
it used to be. There's an influx

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of new players. So, Fluida, what do you think will we continue

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to see over one hundred point pace
pastronok this season? Oh yeah, slam

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dunk. Sure. You look at
the numbers these last two seasons, over

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one hundred points, and it was
a different David this past year. He

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wasn't as primary a goal scorer.
I'm sure he would have liked to have

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that number be higher, But I
think some of that was a lot of

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that was opposition knowing that, Okay, there's nobody else that's such a primary

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threat, so let's put best checkers, best defenseman all up against David Pasternak.

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And he had to change his game
where he was more of a playmaker

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and control the puck. You saw
the assist numbers go up, goal numbers

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go down. I think career high
and assists. He can do everything.

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And he's still he's ninety six,
so he's twenty eight years old right there.

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He had some growing issues during the
regular season. You would expect that

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with the full offseason those would settle
down and he should be good to go

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in termans of health and then he'll
be playing the design and of course these

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lines will change, but the design
at the start is to play with win

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Holme, and that might be that
primarily is to tease out more offense five

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win home rather than the other way
around. But David's so good at anything

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he wants to do that it's going
to be whether he's scoring, whether he's

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possessing the puck, He'll be right
there. Top ten. Let's talk about

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Lindholm because that really is the wild
card coming into next season, huge addition

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for them. He fits with the
win now situation because he's twenty nine year

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old. He is scheduled to fill
that C one role for the team.

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It sounds like you're saying with Pasternak, Bruins are committed pretty significantly for a

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contract to him seven point seventy five
million for several years to come here.

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After being a prized Trey target last
year, he didn't produce a lot when

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he went from Calgary to Vancouver,
fell quickly out of the power play.

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His production just wasn't great last year, dipped below half a point per game

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one point five shots, even with
a high shooting percentage last year. Is

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this a case where Boston just needed
to go after the highest available or the

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best available center that was out on
the market, which is always a sparse

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market. Or is there some reason
that Boston's looking at Lindholm and believing they

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could really get this guy to have
a bounce back year and be a strong

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impact player both I think now,
is he twenty one twenty two Linholm in

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Calgary where he was with Hubert,
like I mean Kachuck and Goodreau, No,

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probably not. That was a point
per game player and full Marx to

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the linemates. Those are two terrific
linemates to be carrying the day offensively.

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Where Lindholme and we are familiar with
his game, he's not that traditional number

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one center who's driving the bus,
not a McDavid, not a Barkop that

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type of center. Will he be
that type of presence? No, But

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I think they're certainly projecting that there's
more there than when he landed in Vancouver.

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Yes, that they made offers with
Calgary when he was available, first

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available, and he ended up at
Vancouver and it just didn't work out for

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them via trade. So yes,
they do seem more there. You'll have

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way more opportunity way more than he
did in Vancouver. Met Yes, that

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was partly his because of his his
fault, like he didn't the way he

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played, he probably didn't deserve to
be prime time opportunity. But still there's

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no Pederson in Boston. There's no
JT. Miller in Boston, like by

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default even and this is not taking
away from Charlie Coyle or Pavlozaka, but

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they're not. They're in that mold
of Lindholm where he's not that let push

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pace, pushing center. He's going
to get opportunities with pastchak top line,

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why any of even strength first power
play there is there's an opening there in

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the bumper Chace Verseronzo spot Zaka was
okay there, but he was a left

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shot, so that changed the design
of the power play where it was it

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was Paschnok who's controlling a lot of
pucks. And I think they do that

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right shot there with Linholm's experience on
the power play, so you look,

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you add those things up. Okay, maybe not point per game player,

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but yeah, there's gonna be plenty
of chances for him to score five on

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five play and he have the killing
penalties too. Yeah, they're gonna be

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looking for a bang for the buck. They pay big, but yeah,

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they're looking to squeeze out a lot
from them on bosst to doing business,

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all right, Brad Marshaan the captain. I asked you on this show last

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year if he would be a point
per game guy. You said, no,

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he's not gonna be point per game, but he'll get close sixty seven

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points in eighty two games. I'd
say you hit that one right on the

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spot, Fluido. He played almost
all season with Charlie Coyle generally was split

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apart from Posterknock at five on five. After the first couple of months,

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he had one and a half hits
a game, two and a half shots

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played nineteen minutes a game. Very
respectable for a thirty five year old with

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a lot of mileage on a famously
not gigantic body that has gone through some

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pretty serious injury over the year.
He keeps himself in great shape. Now

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Marshan is on an expiring deal,
but he's got that seat for the first

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year. Do you expect a similar
performance to last year for Marshawn? And

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can I assume he's not going anywhere
but sticking around in Boston? For twenty

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twenty five and beyond in terms of
expected performance, so much of his health

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because of the age thirty six years
old, and like you mentioned, style

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of play, and also I suspect
he will not be with Posternok full time

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at five on five that he's probably
going to be with Coyle on the second

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line. So there's that you're just
not going to get as much scoring when

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you're not with Bosternack. But you
look at in terms of some of the

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variables, Yes, contract year,
he wants to stay. The feeling he's

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mutual they would like him, and
I'm sure he would like to retire as

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a Brown. That was so meaningful
for Patrice Bergeron and David Crachie. I'm

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sure Brad. That's right up there
in terms of career goals for Brad,

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and Bruns are happy with him as
captain, So there's that. There's also

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the Olympic thing. He was so
bummed that the whole was that they were

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supposed to go to China and that
fell through in twenty twenty two. He

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that is a huge career goal for
Brad to make Canada. That's a tough

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ask. He's already made that.
Whatever foreign Nations whatever roster as are as

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part of the six first Canadians.
Now that's probably because Don Sweeney is managing

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that team that he has some influence
there, But that's he's going to want

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to make that team so badly that
he's going to do everything within himself to

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push an open team Canada's eyes.
So he turned that team that with the

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contract year. Those are two huge
things for Brad. So now is he

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going to stand up physically, Who
knows, but those would be in his

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favor in terms of motivation. Let's
turn to a couple of the slightly more

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depth guys who had a more prominent
role recently, and that's Charlie Coyle and

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Pablo Zaka. As you mentioned,
with Elas Linholm coming in, that kind

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of pushes these guys down the line
up a little bit, probably more appropriately

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than where they have slaughtered in the
past. Both of these guys had similar

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point pass Coyle was sixty and Zaka
was sixty two. They both played just

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over eighteen minutes time on ice,
with Zaka playing nearly a minute more on

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the power play, which kind of
explains why he had four more power play

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points tended Zach Coyle Fluto. How
do you think the deployment shifts for Coil

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and Zaka this season and who do
you think it's more points between the two?

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I would say Zaka just because he's
a little bit more offensive minded than

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Charlie and they're both a very good
defensive but I think Jim Montgomery really leads

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on Charlie for those diesel draws,
endgame situations. That's a lot of calorie

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burning which Charlie and those kinds of
situations that are not left for offense.

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So I would say if you're asking
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little bit towards Zaka. Both had
career years, so that would be my

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guess. But there's also the question
of we're probably going to see Zaka left

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wing rather than center, so we'll
see how does that influence his production.

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Maybe that takes away a little bit
of the defensive responsibilities for Zacca and he

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can focus more on offense, So
there's that. I would expect he'd be

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playing with Linholm Imposterumark, so that
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see a little bit of drop off
there, but he's still within that rank.

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He's twenty ninety seven, so he's
twenty seven years old, still right

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there within the prime. So I
think they're expecting similar, maybe a little

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bit more than last year from Zaka
Coyle. He's older, he's two thos

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he's in ninety two, so he's
thirty two and plays a lot of hard

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minutes. Probably not going to be
first, power play, second line,

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but yes, more appropriately slotted.
Maybe he faces a little less tough competition,

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but maybe his point total goes down. I don't know the same or

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down, just give it because of
the age. But he's not measured on

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points in terms of value for the
Bruins, but I would probably guess his

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total goes down a little. Juxtaposing
two kind of different players also on the

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forward core, Morgan Geeky Matthew Portraw
Portrait was one of the stories of the

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early season. Really had a strong
start with shipped off at the last minute

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to World to Team Canada and the
World Juniors before he ended his season early

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due to injury. On the other
hand, Morgan Geeky kind of plays that

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steady role in the middle six.
He's venturing hockey middle age at twenty five,

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about a half point per game type
player. What do you think of

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these two coming into next year?
Who do you expect maybe to have a

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stronger performance. Probably Geeky because of
age and we don't know how Potra is

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recovering from shoulder surgery. He's been
skating, he's been working out. They

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had a development camp scrimmage. He
didn't play in that, just because they

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thought by risk any kind of injury
or setback, there's a question mark there.

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Is he going to be bully strengthened
for camp and maybe they see best

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fit? Why not send him to
the American League. That's certainly a possibility

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of Matt. At the start of
the year. He wasn't eligible to play

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in the American League because of the
age last year as a nineteen year old.

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Now he's twenty. He can go
down. Maybe they think, hey,

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why don't you settle in and really
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I could absolutely be a scenario.
Those are not NHL points being scored

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by Matt at the start of the
season now, in terms of pure offensive

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ceiling. Absolutely that's probably you're looking
at Potro over Geeky in terms of a

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fully fulfilled NHL center just because he
has more skill, He's more offensive minded

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than Geeky. So down the road, I would expect Matt to have more

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off and output. But right now, Geeky is older, stronger, more

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experience. Again, another player that
might be shifted to the wing rather than

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the center. It depends if Matt
makes a team, maybe Geeky starts right

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wing. If Matt is in the
American League, maybe Morgan is your third

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line center rather than second line right
wing. So it depends upon where he's

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placed. But I would expect Geeky
to have more of an output right now

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this upcoming season than Patrick. All
right, let's move over to the blue

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line, and of course we're going
to start with Charlie McAvoy. And despite

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the bruined success, McAvoy had the
lowest point pace last season of any of

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the past three that he's played.
He plays big minutes, and I know

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that his value is certainly more all
around than it is point production. His

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very valuable plays both sides of the
ice, very reliable and fantasy. He

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only rates out as an eighteenth best
defender, partially due to his slightly regress

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scoring, though he continues to provide
solid production in the perferal categories and power

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play points. So, Fluido,
what do you think about McAvoy. Will

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he be closer to a fifty or
sixty plus point defender this upcoming season.

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I would expect him to score more
than he did last year. That was

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I'm not going to say bad here, just because of how heavily he was

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used and how he did everything.
But I think that the organization is I

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don't know about disappointment, but it's
an average year for Charlie and he needs

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to be great, so I would
expect more output from him, but he's

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just not within it's just not his
game to be. Adam Fox, Cal

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mccarr, those types of offensively focused
right, shut Dez just because it's a

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big part of his game is defending, laying, hard checking, and when

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we see him, I would expect
he'd be on the first part play because

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he's probably still the best option up
there at the point. But that's again,

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that's not his strength. He just
doesn't run a power play with as

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much dynamic presence as some of these
other these Hughes Fox mccarr, Like we

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just saw Kevin Shatticker be a slightly
better option as a point guy last year,

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just because it's just not his game. It'll be better with Charlie,

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but just just not a top tier
scorer. And that's fine from the Bruins

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perspective, as long as he's playing
big, check down minutes and taking care

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of the defensive responsibilities. But just
and it will be better than last year.

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He had at time struggled. His
partner Matt Grizzick, really had a

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bad year and he's not here anymore, so the numbers will go up.

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He might play with a door off. That's certainly an option, so you

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would think in theory that would allow
Charlie to take a little bit more risk

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offensively, knowing that he has a
bigger guy cleaning things up in the defensive

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end. So it'll be better,
but not dynamic better. Hampus Lindholm is

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the second one on the list when
you're talking about centers who can put up

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some offense. He, however,
last year, didn't put up a ton

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of offense, only four primary points
in the thirty regular season playoff games,

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following a stretch he missed due to
lower body injury in February. In March,

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to be fair, only eleven primary
points and nineteen secondary assists. If

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you put together the whole season,
he was getting a lot of those A

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two's, primarily Brandon Carlo's partner on
the second pairing, and when you look

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at the wit or without you if
Brandon Carlo was out there without Hampus Lindholm,

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the stats don't necessarily look great.
So maybe that's some of the impact

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going on here. What are the
expectations for this steady bet Hampus Lindholm and

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could they include a little bit more
offense this year? Flew up? Yeah,

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they have to because he had a
bad year last year, especially when

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you compare it to two years ago, because a lot of his offense came

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when mcilvoy was unveiled. Blood started
to see that he's coming back from the

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shoulder surgery, and Hampus really did
carry the day both ways. So you

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see it there. What happened?
Why did the offense go go dormant?

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So it was significantly last year.
Part of it his injury. He did

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have any injury, but that wasn't
like he was fully healthy for the first

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half of the year. So what's
going on there? Yeah, that's a

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red flag. Now, some of
it might be the age he's thirty and

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he's a big guy. He's six
four and he's thick, so that is

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oh at that age he's getting bigger. Is the foot speed slowing down?

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Is he going to have to adjust
his training and his conditioning and his nutrition

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to try and get a little bit
more fast twitch in there. Yeah?

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Yeah, I think there is some
concern there. It depends do we see

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Hampus a little bit lighter or a
little bit quicker then maybe yes. Then

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you can say, Okay, there's
perhaps an upswing there, or are you

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going to acknowledge if the team is
going to acknowledge Okay, this is just

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the faith that he's entering. He's
going to be more of a defensive defenseman.

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That's fine. But I think for
his contract eight times six and a

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half and there's a lot of term
left on his deal, I think they're

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not paying him to be Brandon Carlow
at four point one. It's just being

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a shutdown defender. Like you pay
that much for him, you need some

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points. He's not gonna be first
power play, that's gonna be Charlie.

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He might not even be second power
play. So there's there's something doesn't align

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right. So it's I think there's
gonna be a big question mark heading into

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the season, and maybe those questions
will be answered early by Himpus and we'll

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see. We'll see one way or
another which way the careertory and responsibility is

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going. But I think there's some
breath holding there. It's really hard to

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project, like you would think it
would be better, just because this past

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year was pretty bad in terms of
where he's been bred to two years ago.

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But this is not a twenty seven
year old went home. This is

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a little bit more high mileage.
So it's hard to say from my perspective

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expect with the Dora off there,
and I'm expecting more from Charlie, I

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think there is a room there for
improvements, but significantly more room. I

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don't see that for him. Yeah, and you've mentioned Zadora of a couple

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of times, usually not the guy
who shows up on the statue quite the

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same way. But do you expect
he or anybody else on this decoor to

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get a big role or make a
big impact for us next year. Yeah,

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Historically in terms of his his production, that's just not who he is,

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right, It's a door of here, get plenty of minutes five on

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five PK. We won't see him
on the power If you see him on

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the power play, there's a problem. But Mason LORI, there is somebody

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that is intriguing in terms of offense, because that is absolutely Mason's game.

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He's going to push the pace,
he's going to take risks. They see

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him as possible PP two quarterback.
The question with Mason is he's still young,

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he's still learning that defensive side.
But if he's relatively sheltered starting five

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one five a third parent guy with
Andrew peak like, maybe maybe he's not

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asked to really be shutdown guy on
defense, and I think they'd be okay

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with that, just because he's still
growing that part of his game and maybe

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that will never be part of his
game. But that's a six to four

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guy, warmer forward who didn't change
the defense till till high school. There's

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absolutely offense there. Yeah, I
keep my eye on that guy because Okay,

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that's not a player that everybody is
aware of, but there is.

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There's certainly offense. He's there.
It's there with Mason. He's not afraid

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to push the offensive pace creativity.
He's gonna be up there taking risks.

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Yeah, that's one to keep your
eye on. That's a great call up

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and excited about him for a while, and he definitely looked good at times

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in his limited action this season.
Let's switch over to the goalies, fludo.

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We of course have to talk a
little bit about some of the movement,

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but looking at last year, Boston
Netminers were ranked fourteenth and expected goals

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against p sixty, but we're actually
ranked fifth in actual goals. Obviously a

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big part of that was Linis Omark, who's no longer with the team.

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So we're not going to hit it, so we're not going to discuss that.

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Of course, we do need to
mention Jeremy Swainman. At the time

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of this recording, he has an
sternline RFA negotiations. I imagine he's going

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to get signed. Boston has eight
point six million in cap space and it's

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I think it's safe to assume Swayman
takes a good chunk of that. He

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had twenty almost twenty three goals tave
above expected last season one point two two

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Delta Fenwick. He was just awesome
and obviously a really big part of their

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playoff run and coming to the team
Corpus solo, he was really not great

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in Ottawa and that experiment who was
which is already over. He's really struggled

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for different parts of his career.
Stretches here and there have been decent overall.

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I've long been pretty skeptical of his
actual value, but Boston has shown

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that they can make just about anyone
look pretty decent in goals, so it's

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possible that he could really look pretty
decently. But what do you think the

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breakdown is going to be between these
two? I imagine Swayman is the man

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getting the majority of the starts.
Do we see like sixty forty or or

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maybe he gets up to three quarters
of the starts? How many starts do

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you think Swaymen and Corpusolo get and
do you think they'll still put up really

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good numbers? I would expect fifty
five to sixty starts for Jeremy. It's

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going to be clear cut that he's
the number one, Like some of the

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numbers that he's put up so far
through on his career, your season playoffs,

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there's not many goalies in his company
in terms of age twenty five goalies,

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like, he's a very select group, so you would think and based

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on that, I think athleticism,
competitiveness, hockey fence like, everything is

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there for Jeremy. But I'm going
to say that a and who knows how

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big you can't It's impossible to say, but I'm going to pay A big

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part of his success was because of
the goalpending rotation that he had, not

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just he could take the breath,
so to speak, in terms of not

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having to play every other game.
That's so huge for a goalie mentally,

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perhaps even more than physically, to
know that, hey, the guy next

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to me is going to be just
as good, if not better. He's

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gonna win the Besida two years ago. So I think that was baked in

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a huge part of Jeremy's results.
Knowing that he doesn't have to take every

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start, he has to be on
every time he plays, Otherwise Lena's is

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gonna He's gonna get the net,
and it's gonna be his net. I

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would not be surprised to see a
dip in Jeremy's way just because of that

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pressure of having to be the guy. He's never had to be the guy,

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although we saw in the playoffs and
he was outstanding, the best player,

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no discussion, hands down on the
team, and so we've seen that,

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but he can have a Donalds.
So you don't know how is he

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going to react to that, How
is he going to react to the eventual

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huge deal that he was going to
get. Those are variables you just don't

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know. In terms of workload,
yes you can, you can absolutely work

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him in as fifty five sixty,
But in terms of say a percentage above

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expected all that, I wouldn't be
surprised to see all those numbers go down.

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In terms of CORPUSALO, I know
the bruin within the goaltending community.

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I think there are a lot of
people who know their stuff on goalies think

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that this is a good environment for
Jonnas to rebound just because Okay, he'll

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be playing with fam, no pressure
to be the guy, a better team,

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not significantly better defensively than Ottawa,
but better overall, ruins, better

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culture, an expectation of winning versus
Ottawa and the Golden Coach. Well,

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you just look at what Bob Essence
has done with Swimon all Mark Rask Colock.

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It's a huge lift and it's been
significant in terms of the work he's

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done, so I would expect their
recovery there. But also there's no guarantee

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that in camp that Corpuslo gets assigned. They're pretty big on this kid,

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Brandon Bassi coming up from the American
League, who will need waivers to be

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assigned. So that's a factor there
versus Corpusolo at let's cap hit not three

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million a year, nobody's gonna you
would think nobody's gonna claim that and take

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that on through waivers at the start
of the season. That's a factor too.

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If if Corpusselo shows up and he's
off in camp and the other guy

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is on't think they hesitate to send
us down and make Bussy their number two.

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So there's some questions there too with
the golds In So overall, I

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would not be surprised to see the
goldsending worse off this coming season, just

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because that tandem was so good,
so long, so reliable, so consistent.

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There's big change there. In my
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the New York Times site, so
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the Athletic it's a promotion Fludo Sinzawa, thank you so much for coming on

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and talking Boston Bruins. You got
it, guys, My pleasure, Will

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that's good fired Pans, Oh my
goodness. We grab now it's your weekly

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goalie talk. But Kat Silverman,
Kat's Instincts. Time for another edition of

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Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman and m
gol mag we're talking Bruins prospects. That

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means we're talking Brandon Boosey. That's
right, six foot five, undrafted now

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twenty six years old. He's definitely
at the top of their pipeline, it

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would seem right now. Second straight
HL season, which was quite good.

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Last year. You talked about how
he surprised you with how good he was,

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though part of it was maybe based
on the system that he has there.

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This trade with Olmark and Corporasolo probably
limits his opportunity a bit, but

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overall he's, you know, got
he's there and he's got some opportunity potentially

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depending on if there's an injury or
something. Looking at the hockey prospecting,

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he has trended down. His comp
here is Alex Staylock, which I know

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we have a soft spot for.
But what do your instincts tell us about

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Brandon Bouzy and what kind of upside
do you think he has. I love

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the Brandon Boosey's comp is Alex Staylock
because when it comes to st they play

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so differently brand and Bussy is huge
and a little slow, and Alex Staylock

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is obviously the world's most exciting goaltender
you can't trust. So we'll see where

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Boston really has plans for him.
I think that even though the Bruins traded

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Olmark for Corpusolo, I don't necessarily
think that that blocks the pipeline. I

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think there's a chance that and it's
not how I personally would manage my cap,

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but I think there's a chance that
if Corpusolo is just not getting it

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done and Brendan Bussey is continuing to
play with honestly this solid performances he put

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up last year, there's a chance
that those two get swapped in the system

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and corpus Solo's contract gets not buried
in the AHL because they can't bury that

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much money. But I do think
that there's a chance that he ends up

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playing a ton of HL if Boozy
looks like the better goaltender, because they're

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at a point in that team's trajectory
where they can't really afford to be just

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throwing it all out and opting for
rebuild, especially during the peak of Swayman's

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during the peak of Swaymen's career arc
here, So I think that this is

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a better goaltender situation for Boosy if
he is hoping to get NHL action.

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I think that Ollmark and Swaymen together, even though both have had some injury

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issues here and there, that wasn't
a situation where either one of them was

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going to get buried in the AHL. They were both too good, so

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really the only opportunity he had for
games was if one of them was injured

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and the other one really needed rest. Now I think there's a chance that

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he almost gets added in as almost
like a three goaltender tandem for the year,

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where if Corpusol is not performing well, they bring up Boosey, they

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scratch Corpusolo for games. If Swaymen
gets injured during the year, which he

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has proven to do here and there, I think that if Woozy gets called

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up, he is the primary starter
at that point. So I think we're

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going to see more NHL opportunity for
him now. I just he is growing

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on me. He just still makes
me a little nervous because he's slow.

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I think he's got good positioning.
I think he's got pretty good reads.

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He's just he's a little slow,
and I don't know what he'll look like

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in games where the Bruins defense breaks
down, because unfortunately their team is aging

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a little bit. It's transitioning,
and I think that they aren't a They're

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like the twenty fourteen to fifteen LA
Kings. They're a team that has some

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defensive breakdowns in there, and I'm
curious to see what he does with that.

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So I do think we're going to
see him at the NHL level though,

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and I think it's going to be
this year. I just don't know

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for how many games it's going to
be. I love it. I have

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long argued that Unice Corpselo is an
HL caliber goalie, so I agree with

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that assessment. Be fun to see
Boosy in there. And for all of

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those listening at home, I almost
made Kat spit her coffee outrybut that Let's

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move on to the next guy.
Mike Dprow, that now twenty five year

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old is no longer a top prospect, I would say, but he has

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rehabbed his career a bit. He
after playing in the primarily in the ECCHL

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last season, he played entirely in
the HL this past season and it was

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really good. His round numbers were
better than Boosy's and fewer games. And

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last year we talked about how best
case for dpro was maybe Jack Campbell outcome

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at the peak and interesting looking at
the two of them, thirty games played

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for Dpro, forty one for Boosy
pretty similar actually, although the both the

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say percent and GA slightly better for
Dpetro interesting, His hockey prospecting is pretty

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low. His only real legit comp
is Colin Delia. So, Kat,

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what can you tell us anyone who
has shares with Dphro? What do you

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think we should do? Should we
keep holding? Is there a path to

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at least like a timeshare goalie in
the NHL here or what are we thinking?

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Man? Jack Campbell, calling Deally
and Mikey d Pietro. That's like

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the holy trinity of goaltenders who I
would maybe go to war for. I

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think that Colin Deely is an interesting
comp because that's like Mikey di Pietro a

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goaltender who from a technical perspective looked
really good, did all the work as

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a prospect, really embrace the grind. At the AHL level, you saw

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tangible, noticeable improvement. You saw
him get brought up to the NHL level

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too early behind a team that knew
they were going to lose and through them

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out there's a meat shield, and
then didn't give him a chance to recover

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and lick his wounds and reinforce his
good habits at the AHL level. Interspersed

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00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:47,800
throughout Mikey di Pietro is a goaltenders
had a few too many injuries throughout his

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history for me to be super confident
at this point. He is undersized.

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His technique is stellar. For a
while there it got really rough technique wise,

504
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and I don't want to put all
the blame on Vancouver and Vancouver connects.

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Fans don't come at me, please, but I do think that he

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was not putting a necessarily a huge
position to succeed there, and Thatcher Demco

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obviously was that's their bread and butter. So when it seemed like DiPietro was

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struggling, that became their sacrifice and
they were like, all right, this

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is not working, we're gonna we're
gonna move on and try something else.

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So it's nice seeing his game getting
rehabbed in a much more low stakes Boston

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system. He's got really solid positioning
for a guy who is undersized. He's

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not afraid to challenge when he needs
to. He reads really well, he

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tracks the puck. Wally's good at
rebounds. We have seen all of those

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accolades I'm giving him go out the
window when he's going through a tough spell.

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I think that's that's a good guy
for Boston to have in their system,

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because if he is a Colindelia or
a Jack Campbell being the best case,

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Colindilia being the worst, that's not
a bad guy to have in your

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system. That's almost like the Richard
Bachman role, the guy who can be

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00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:08,000
a really good mentor for your minor
leaguers. And then if you do need

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to call someone up and it seems
like Boosy is potentially going through a little

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bit of a rough patch or he's
injured, that's a guy that you can

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call up. He can handle NHL
games without getting completely lit up, and

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especially if it seems like his game
is returned to its peak form, that's

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someone who potentially could I would say
move ahead of Corpus Solo in my personal

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ranking for goaltenders in their system.
I just know that contract wise, obviously,

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he doesn't sit in a position where
they can be swapped in the depth

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chart. So I don't think he's
going to play a ton of games,

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but I do think that it'll be
fun seeing I'm hoping he gets a game

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or two at the NHL level this
year, just so he can play some

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good NHL games, because I think
he has it in him. Still,

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all right, sounds like you're saying
that's a bit of chance there. So

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thanks for giving us your instincts on
the Boston Bruins goalies. We'll be back

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00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:28,079
right after this digs the Dynasty Gig
Boston Ruins Edition. Victory is gonna be

534
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,920
a short one. The old Bruins. I remember, I'm old enough to

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00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,239
remember when you were the Bruins correspondent
for the Dabber Prospects, and I'm pretty

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00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,880
sure that our no brainer was still
the no brainer even back then, Victor,

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00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,880
tell us about the no brainer for
the Boston Bruins. Yeah, the

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00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,119
no brainer is baby in Lacel twenty
twenty one, twenty first overall pick five

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eleven and seventy six pounds. He
had a very strange development. If you

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all remember, he was in Sweden
and then he came over to the WHL,

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and then he was moving around a
little bit. But the last couple

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of years he was in the AHL. His first season there was very good

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00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:13,119
thirty seven points and fifty four games, and he up that fifty games and

544
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,320
for sorry, fifty points in fifty
six games, looking very strong in the

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AHL. Doing that sometimes isn't that
impressive if you're older, but he's still

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only twenty one, so that's very
good. He's a right shot, right

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00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:29,400
wing, by the way, and
his FHL player card looks pretty strong in

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terms of some of the categories,
like the assists. He looks like he's

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going to be a pretty good setup
man. His goals are a little bit

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lower. His shots are actually only
a sixtieth percentile. And I think one

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of the things about like Seal that
you can really see on this FHL player

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card is that he doesn't really do
much other than playmake His hits and blocks

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00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,079
are pretty much non existent, so
his bash is going to be low.

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He's going to be a points only
kind of guy, and then if you

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look at some of the other metrics
like play driving and stuff, it's actually

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pretty poor. You know, his
power play time, it looks really good.

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Some of his play driving is okay, but his transition game his pucks

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to the middle in high danger are
low, which kind of suggests that there

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may be a bit of an issue
in terms of translating that to the NHL.

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But we'll see what our FHL scout
says about that. Jesse, you

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darn right, and our man Grant
comes through with the Fabian le Cell report.

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He has this to say for skating, Lisel has a very quick first

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few steps, then as a bit
of a choppy stride to get up to

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full speed. Acceleration is above average, but overall speed just average. His

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first few steps allow him to create
space and tight areas as he's strong on

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his feet. Passing and handling above
average passing on both his forehand and backhand,

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00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,400
stick handles well in tight Passing and
handling the puck are what we'll get

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00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,760
him to the NHL. Shooting,
Wesall has an accurate wrist shot, but

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he's not going to overpower goalies at
the AHL or the NHL level with that

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shot. Iq above average vision with
the puck on his stick will find the

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open teammate with a nice pass.
His anticipation is slightly above average, as

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Lisel keeps his head on a swivel
when he's without the puck, and he

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gets in the way of the puck
quite often. He has very good poise

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with the puck in his own end
or in the offensive zone. For checking,

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that's the weakest part of Lisel's game, as he relies on his two

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line mates to do it. It
just isn't in his game and could hurt

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Lisel's ability to stay in the NHL
for any length of time. Defense,

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Lisel's got decent positioning in his own
end, but can cheat at times when

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leaving the zone. He'll need to
get pucks deep when entering the offensive zone

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00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,920
as he likes to carry the puck
in, which might not translate as well

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to the NHL. After two years
in the AHL, his defense is passable

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but certainly not a strength. So
the best asset is mentioned above. Passing

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00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:57,440
and handling the puck are Lisel's strengths. He has the ability to control the

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play in the other team's zone.
It could be an important and cog of

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any team's power play. He'll get
a chance on the power play in the

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NHL at some point. The biggest
concern the lack of physical engagement, non

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existent cycle game and he can forget
to move his feet. What's the top

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00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:17,039
tier outcome for Fabian le cell Well
Grant says, top six winger playing on

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the first unit of the power play, could be a tier three forward,

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but as Victor said, no bash
justification. He's got the passing a handley

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skills to work with better players when
he is skating and putting in an effort,

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but he's going to need to find
the right chemistry to reach his potential.

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What's the median outcome for Fabian le
Sell top ahl forward? No place

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in the NHL as a bottom six
forward because of obviously the lack of physicality.

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That's because that outcome would happen because
he needs to develop some better defensive

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00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:52,400
traits and perhaps a little more of
a physical cycling game to become a bottom

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six winger in the NHL. Could
be a boom er Bus top six forward.

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00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Stylistic comparable similar skating skill style to
Cody Hodgson and much the same pucking

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,159
only in passing abilities. Cody Hodgson, being the comp for our no brainer,

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votes poorly for this prospect system,
Victor. But our friend Mason Black,

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the NHL rankking, seals the deal. He sent out the poll Babanly

602
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:21,960
Sell versus Ridley Greeg of the Ottawa
Senators and when the people had spoken,

603
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,119
Greeg in a landslide one hundred and
ninety votes sixty three to thirty seven.

604
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Victor, are you going Greeg overly
Sell? I think this is a very

605
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,280
interesting debate. And obviously Greg is
an NHLer. He has ninety two games

606
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,840
under his belt, he's played,
they played mostly in the whole season this

607
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,599
season in the NHL, and he
looked really good. He looked really competent.

608
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,119
Thirty point pace isn't anything too exciting, but he was getting sub fifteen

609
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,320
minutes time on ice, not much
power play time, and given some rather

610
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,119
difficult assignments. So you can understand
that. So in one way, you're

611
00:45:55,159 --> 00:46:00,599
talking about a for sure with what
seems like for sure competent NA versus somewhat

612
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,000
kind of knocking on the doorstep.
But I think in Likeceel, there's a

613
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,519
little bit of prospect fatigue here.
Twenty twenty one is when he was drafted,

614
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,519
people were really excited about him,
and then they weren't, and then

615
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:14,159
it's been up and down. I
think people are just impatient. They'll get

616
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,239
a little impatient and tired of waiting. But I think you need to keep

617
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,880
in mind that these two squads,
Boston and Ottawa, have been very different

618
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920
over the last several years. Boston
has been a very good team, a

619
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,920
competitive team, and didn't they even
win the President's Trophy one of those years.

620
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,840
I can't remember, but they seem
like they're a very good team and

621
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,519
they didn't have a lot of room
for someone likely Sel. I mean,

622
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,440
we've talked to Fluto the last several
years, and what's been difficult for these

623
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,920
young guys, good as they may
be, to enter the lineup. So

624
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,599
I think you have to keep that
in context. You can't just say,

625
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,159
oh, he's not good enough.
He was good enough, he would have

626
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,000
busted in. That's not entirely true
when you have a super competitive squad like

627
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:52,639
Boston has had, So I think
you really have to take that into context.

628
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,199
I think the upside for Lyceel is
still higher. I think what Grant

629
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,559
mentioned, they are top six power
play guy that I think could get in

630
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:04,880
that sixty to seventy point range.
I certainly think the floor is lower than

631
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880
what Greeg has right now, and
so that's obviously the concern. But I

632
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,960
think he really needed that second year
of the AHL. He was really good

633
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,519
in the first one, wasn't quite
ready at camp, there were some injuries

634
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:20,360
that he was dealing with, and
I think that he showed in this last

635
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,360
year that he's come a long way
in the AHL. So I think if

636
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,199
you're looking at upside, I would
definitely take Lecell. That's not what the

637
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,800
people voted. I think the people
are showing they're excited about Greg. They

638
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,960
like the floor and they think there's
a little bit more upside there. Personally,

639
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:39,320
I'm not there with Greg. I
think that he has shown what he

640
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,679
is. He's a really strong middle
six. Depends on if they play him

641
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:45,440
at center winger. I think he
can be a center, and if that's

642
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,159
the case, there's going to be
a little bit more two way responsibility.

643
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,519
But I think he could just end
up being more of like a forty five

644
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,960
to fifty five point guy, and
so that's not going to be as exciting

645
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:01,079
in fantasy. But he does offer
a pretty nice amount of prepherals, does

646
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:05,679
Greg Greeg. So I think that
it depends on what you want. If

647
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,960
you want that really strong preferal floor
with upside for more than Greg is the

648
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:12,079
easy answer because Lacel, as we
mentioned, doesn't do any of that.

649
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,119
But on the other hand, if
you want a little bit higher points upside,

650
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:19,320
then I think you go Lisel.
So it depends on what you want.

651
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,360
Looking at the hockey prospecting between these
two is clearly Greeg he has a

652
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,840
lot more star potential as he graduated
the Model. He's in the NHL now,

653
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,280
obviously, but looking at Lesel,
he's been pretty low and part of

654
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,679
that is because he was in the
j twenty and then he went to the

655
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,639
WHL, which is the lower equivalency
and even though he did well in the

656
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:44,119
AHL, it's not enough to overcome
Byron's math too. That kind of punishes

657
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:50,039
them for being in that lower equivalency
league. So anyways, Lisell one percent

658
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:52,239
chance of being a star as he
graduates the Model fifty one percent chance of

659
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,039
being in NHL. Er. He
has a lot of replacement level guys.

660
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,639
There are some really high end guys
that do look likely. Sell in the

661
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:04,119
model are more like outliers like Milan
Hayduk, JT. Miller, Jeff Carter

662
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,440
looks similar. There's still some hope, but it seems a little bit more

663
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,920
far fetched at this point. I
still personally believe that Lisel can get there.

664
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:14,039
I think it depends on how they
use him. I think there's some

665
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,880
openings, more openings this year that
he could step into, and there's a

666
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,800
little bit less kind of expectation there. I'm hoping for it. We'll see

667
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,960
his j fresh card hasn't match just
four percent chance of being in NHLer,

668
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,239
thirty eight percent chance of being a
star, four percent chance of being a

669
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,559
star, thirty percent chance of being
in NHL, or it's quite a bit

670
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:34,159
more pessimistic. But yeah, I
think if you, if you're been holding

671
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,599
Lisel this whole time, they might
as well hold a little bit longer unless

672
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,519
someone is a little bit more convinced
that you are, that he can be

673
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:45,719
that top notch player. And if
someone is frustrated with Lisel and you can

674
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,960
get him for a song in pretty
good value than I would because this could

675
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,639
finally be the moment Jesse finally,
Yeah, this system it did not.

676
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,519
We only did two and we didn't
even give the second prospect the dignity of

677
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,320
being the need to know Victor.
We skip right to keep your eye on

678
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:07,679
who is it? Yeah, this
is a guy that was just drafted Dean

679
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,159
Laturno twenty twenty four, twenty fifth
overall pick. A little bit surprised he

680
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:15,039
went that early, although not terribly
surprised, because the six foot seven,

681
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:20,239
two hundred and fourteen pound kid is
just massive, skates really well for his

682
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,000
size, and he's just really big
right shot center. Played in high school,

683
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:29,320
which is always a bit awkward to
figure out how he's going to translate.

684
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,599
He was just dominating kids. They're
almost three points per game in that

685
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,880
system, and the next year he's
going to make the massive jump to Boston

686
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,239
College, so it's going to be
really interesting to see how he handles that.

687
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,760
But in terms of raw potential,
he has a ton. We'll hear

688
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,119
a little bit more of about the
Scotting report, but before that, looking

689
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:52,440
at his FHL card, we don't
have a whole lot of data and information,

690
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,199
as you might imagine from his high
school days, but he did play

691
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:59,800
a couple of USHL games. He
didn't have any points, but he did

692
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,559
looked a little bit like the pace
was challenging for him in those couple of

693
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,800
games, but it was just two
so it's hard to say too much.

694
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,199
But what we do know about him
is that in those couple of games he

695
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,360
did shoot and hit a ton So
there's a potential for a massive amount of

696
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,519
bash from Dean Laturno and that's pretty
exciting considering there may be some significant points

697
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:22,239
as well. But let's hear a
little bit more about what makes him tick

698
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:28,280
from our FHL scout. Here's what
our scout Tony has to say about Laturno.

699
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,800
He is a decent skater, needs
work, but very raw. His

700
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:37,639
base is an asset. Passing and
handling average to below average okay for his

701
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:43,360
stage in development, though shooting as
everything probably needs some work, but does

702
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,159
a good job picking an open spot
on the rush getting his shot away off

703
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:52,320
a pass IQ in line with his
young age, Tony's Sister's a lack of

704
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,960
confidence and maybe a lack of poise
for checking. Tony did see some for

705
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,280
checking, but seemed like the lack
of confidence kept him from one need to

706
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,760
be caught up ice defense A little
bit is embodied players off the puck,

707
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,239
which you'd expect with his size difference
against his peers. So potential is the

708
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,039
best asset. He's got a lot
of it. Size would be the most

709
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:17,400
noticeable thing. The difference between the
two games that Tony scouted is he seems

710
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,280
to be learning, not making as
many mistakes in the second one. Be

711
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,199
interesting to see how college goes for
him. And the biggest concern the size

712
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:31,880
instead of the ability top tier outcome
a Tier two middle six player. Tony

713
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,280
just doesn't think he's going to be
a top line player. Not enough skill

714
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,039
to get the amount of goals and
assists that he would need. But the

715
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:43,480
bash could be great his median outcome
maybe a matt Rempy type fourth liner.

716
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,360
Ooh that would like That would be
nice. Boston would love that. Too

717
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,599
early to tell, needs lots of
work, needs to be given time to

718
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:53,559
do so. Stylistic comparables Jordan Greenway, Kevin Hayes, Adam Lowry, a

719
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:59,280
couple different options from Tony here.
Final thoughts so rearly in his career,

720
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,119
he could be a pack Kleine or
you can end up a mat Renpy.

721
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,800
He's going to be interesting to watch
and our friend Mason Black the NHL ranking

722
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:14,880
sent out the poll on Dean Laturno
versus Alex Turcott, and Laturno did take

723
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,760
out Turcott in this pool fifty four
to forty six percent. Turcott a post

724
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,039
hype sleeper, one would hope,
but maybe not so much that Deanlaturno over

725
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:28,480
Turcott. Is that how you would
rank a victor? It depends on,

726
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,960
like you said, do you want
the post hype sleeper, the guy who

727
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:36,000
was drafted in twenty nineteen and has
taken what feels like to some an eternity

728
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:38,599
to get to this point where he
may have some NHL relevance, And I

729
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:40,960
do think there's some hope here at
the end of the tunnel. It does

730
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,320
seem like Turcott has turned his career
around a little bit. He's had a

731
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,199
lot of injuries and other setbacks,
but he did look really good in the

732
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:52,320
AHL last season, played some NHL
games. So he's the guy who you've

733
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,920
waited forever for and maybe finally ready. Or you could pick the guy who

734
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,440
you may also need to wait an
eternity for and may end up in a

735
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,800
similar situation. That's the calculus we
talk about the funnel Jesse. People that

736
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,519
are further down the funnel, you
have more idea of the range of outcomes.

737
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:13,159
That's where Turcott is. Laturno is
just a really raw piece of clay

738
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:16,000
that is completely unsculpted. So you
could get to that point where he's this

739
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,000
amazing, beautiful statue, where you
could just get to the point where he's

740
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,960
basically a taller version of Alex Turcott
in four or five years. So I

741
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:28,280
get it. I probably would take
Laturno too, because right now there's so

742
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,760
much more raw potential and it's pretty
exciting. I also understand where if you

743
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,599
were a team that was a little
bit more in a competitive window, you

744
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,079
might just want Turcott right now because
he's someone who could contribute to your team

745
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:45,039
pretty soon, and so that's appealing. But yeah, I like the upside

746
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,639
and the raw potential of dein Laturno. Who'll be really interesting to see how

747
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:53,480
he fares at be at ABC next
year. And the part of the reason

748
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:58,199
he made that commitment was because Will
Smith decided to sign in the NHL if

749
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:00,480
he was going to If he wasn't, then he was probablyrobably going to be

750
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:05,760
in the USHL, So that gives
him some opportunity at BC and it should

751
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,000
be really good for him. Looking
at the Hockey Prospecting between these two,

752
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:15,239
you can see that Turcott was had
massive potential early on his career, but

753
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,519
then he graduated the model at twenty
six percent chance of being a star,

754
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:22,559
still fairly high there, and still
fairly high chance of being a NHLer.

755
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,079
Laturner, on the other hand,
just seven percent chance of being a star,

756
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,199
twenty four percent chance of being an
NHL or who knows. There's still

757
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:32,480
a lot of questions there. Looking
at Laturno's comps as hilarious, and they're

758
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,559
mostly all just busts or replacement level
guys. I did pick out one that

759
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,719
I think might be similar, and
that's Mike Rupp. Mike Rupp was listed

760
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,840
as a bust, but he's he
was also a really big dude, sixty

761
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,559
five two thirty. He was also
picked in the first round and he had

762
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,960
I wouldn't it's listed as a bust
here on Hockey Prospecting, but he had

763
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,920
a pretty decent career and he ended
up having some relevance here and there,

764
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,199
But for the most part, in
terms of fantasy, he certainly wasn't what

765
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:05,000
we thought it would be. So
that's all that we have on the Boston

766
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:07,199
dig. Yes, the system is
a bit light. They got a couple

767
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:10,840
of reinforcements this year, but they're
a really good team, so they shouldn't

768
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,519
be too worried about the prospect pool, although they really do need to work

769
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:16,440
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