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New Eastern Europe podcasts. Bella Russians
took to the streets in response to the

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rict's presidential election on August ninth,
twenty twenty. The authorities said that Alexander

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Lukashenka received the support of more than
eighty percent of voters, which clearly contradicted

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the scale of social mobilization and sentiment. The authority's reaction was to use force.

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Officially, three people were killed in
the first days. A thousand were

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arrested, many of them were brutally
beaten and tortured. Hello Belarus, my

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name is Vlad I'm twenty two years
old. I work in construction. I'd

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participated in the protests many times.
In the events of August from the ninth

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until the thirteenth, I was beaten
by so called law enforcement officers. On

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October the eleventh, I was at
Pushkinskaya metro station. Nine vehicles water cannons

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with colored water entered our whoop.
We started to run away to the neighborhood

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courtyards. I was beaten by amon. I was shot at from fifteen meters.

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Another boy who was trying to take
the girl away, was also shot

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at. We ran to the staircase. There was a huge crowd. They

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beat everyone live ammunition was fired.
The shot shards hit my face as well

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as in the groin area of the
torso. I managed to escape through the

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courtyards and a friend took me to
the hospital to the emergency rooms. I

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was quickly operated on. The pellet
was taken out and I got three stitches.

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I had a broken note and concussions. I was one of the first

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to go to hospital. There was
also a girl with a broken head.

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Later they brought very injured people.
I remember a boy with an almost knocked

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out eye and a broken spine,
I think. But the battered men were

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not assisted by the militia. They
were watching over everyone. I asked the

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doctors not to write nonsense that I
was shot with a pneumatic gun, but

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they could not do anything because policemen
were standing nearby. Thank you very much

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to the doctors. They support us
to the fullest and are against all his

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brutality. I had to leave the
country and fearing for my safety, I

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left for Warsaws. I was just
afraid for my health. My name is

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Anton Saifulio and I'm an assistant professor
at the University of Warsaw Center for East

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European studies. Absolute the repressions of
Belarussians did not come as a surprise in

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a red degree. They were surprised
by the absolute and total insolence of the

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authorities, which after breaking the social
contract so unwritten that we somehow care for

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you, We give it a minimum, that is access to medicine, access

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to education. It is relatively calm, We let the IT sector develop,

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for example, that is, young
people coming to Minsk could abstract about the

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political situation and as it were,
live in the European capital, so there

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was a kind of apparent robe of
stability. After the pandemic happened, the

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coronavirus pandemic came, then that contract
was broken. The authorities totally ignored the

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issue of the epidemic and arrogantly approached
the issue of the pandemic, and then

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societies began to show solidarity and help
each other. This was superimposed on the

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election campaign. It combined with the
emergence of new political forces, new faces,

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which gained some trust during these dynamic
events of the summer, and this

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figure of eighty three percent surprised with
its insolence, because all summer you could

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see how much support, for example
Barbarika and later at Tihanalskaya herself. The

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United Opposition candidates had huge support,
and this insolence really surprised people. They

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went out onto the street on August
ninth, and they did not expect that

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they would encounter such a wave of
repression, because it usually looked like this

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in two thousand and six. Somehow, this so called tenth town survived a

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little over a week after Maidan.
It was quite a fashionable phenomenon. Then.

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Two thousand and ten two thousand and
fifteen are literally a few days of

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such gentle pacification of the conflict,
which did not lead to such a scale,

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and of course all over the country, which is important, the first

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three days of the whole country took
to the streets. Over the first three

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days, the whole country took to
the streets, not only in large cities

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but also smaller ones. Leader Malediechna
Labin Gina Salijorsk. It clearly surprised the

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authorities, which expected that this old
scenario would work, that they would beat

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everyone up and in two or three
days it would be over. The participant

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in the protest in Minsk was afraid
of his safety and thereful, he asked

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for anonymity. I am an actor
and teacher. We learned a lot about

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people's behavior and how to influence them. I still cannot understand knowing a lot

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about the Nazis, Hitler, the
psyche of such people, about Auschwitz.

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I just cannot find an answer to
the question why people are so cool.

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The most frightening and incomprehensible for me
is that people who say that they are

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only following orders are laughing when they
torment others. Where does so much hate

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in these people come from? I
cannot understand it when I imagine someone detained

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in custody his peers, but from
the Special Services rape them with a truncheon.

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Where can such things appear in their
heads? Where did these sick ideas

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come from? I do not know
what the reasons are for these bastards.

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Do they later jerk off after returning
home? Is it exciting? Is it

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clear? It is clear they are
mental perverts. I would never have thought

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of that. To understand me or
that girl Christina, who tortured inhumanely detained

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boys herself. I understand that there
are some political reasons. The person who

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is ill with power wants to keep
this power, and there are those who

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follow orders without thinking. They just
catch everyone. They want to intimidate people.

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But another matter is this absolute violence
and brutal rape, some perverted violence.

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It's good that fuck me. The
detainees were not quartered and eaten in

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these torture rooms. Joseph Barrel,
head of the European Union's diplomacy in the

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European Parliament, drew attention to their
level of violence against demonstrators Belarus. Unfortunately,

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the situation on the ground in Belarus
has not improved. It has been

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continues to be a brutal crackdown against
citizens, journalists and against members of the

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Coordination Council itself. The interior ministers
recently authorized to use lethal force. Leath

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of force and the increasing levels of
violence against protesters are extremely worrying. However,

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the use of violence could not come
as a surprise. Alexander Lukashenko's regime

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reacted this way in the past,
and now the authorities were also preparing to

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suppress protests. Moreover, some of
the resources came from the West. Scenarios.

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Undoubtedly, the scenario was assumed if
it was the main scenario, that

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is, for the previous terms,
the scenario was used and ended successfully for

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the authorities. It has never been
so brutal. The brutality resulted mainly from

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surprise, and here in quotation marks
the demonstrators themselves are to blame the protest

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itself, which was decentralized earlier,
for example in twenty fifteen, twenty ten,

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two thousand and six. It was
quite easy to detain, arrest,

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imprison the leaders, the evident leaders
of these protests, and in general the

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technical issue was simply, as they
say in Russian cleaning the square, simply

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disperse all the people and stop them, create an atmosphere of fear. Of

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course, this had the effect that
after a few days there were no protests.

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But now I was incredibly surprised by
the very nature of the back.

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You know, you had no more
Zikhanoskaya Babarika, and they all sit in

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prison. People go out alone,
do not go out to the square,

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go out in their yards, in
their neighborhood and their small towns. And

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of course the authorities are not prepared
first of all such a scenario that you

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will have to devote all your attention
to the whole country, not Mi Minsk.

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And the second thing is actually the
stubbornness of people who were beaten shot,

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had stunt grenades thrown at them,
and they did not get scared anyway.

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And the fact that the government assumed
such a scenario approves that in the

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summer a new government was appointed by
Lukashenka, and most of the ministers had

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military experience. Even the Minister of
Sport was a former soldier. It is

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said that there was no election campaign
for Lukashenka. There was an election campaign

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for Lukashenka. He visited various military
units, watched the exercises of for example,

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the same on the internal truths.
So they were appropriate preparations. The

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cars we see now, the huge
shields they put on, I suspect they

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have been preparations for several years because
the authorities that ruling camp assumed that there

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could be a larger scale of protests, especially in twenty twenty, that it

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would be a difficult election, and
they were properly prepared. Where does it

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come from, Well, some of
them certainly come from Russia. There is

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no one here trying to hide anything
as if this is a normal issue in

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Belarusian realities. As it turned out, the stone grenades came from the Czech

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Republic. At least some of the
batches. The rubber bullets also partly came

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from Poland. In the first days
of the protests, Schakowsky showed made in

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Poland. It is written that some
of the equipment comes from abroad, which

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imposed sanctions that de facto blocked similar
types of transactions. Well, it caused

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some surprise. While the issue was
a bit muffled only one in the Czech

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Republic. Such inquiries were made to
the Czech government through the activity of the

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Belarusian diaspora. What is it,
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Republic. They got a reply that
the last batch was sold in two thousand

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and eleven. Before the sanctions,
Alexandra Lukashenko's regime prepared the ground for repression

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by using various methods of dehumanization or
deligitimization of the opposition, demonization, dehumanization,

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marginalization of the opposition. This is
hard work that the authorities have been

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doing for the last twenty to twenty
five years of its existence, generally from

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the very beginning. Since the two
thousand and one elections and in particular the

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two thousand and six elections, there
have been an especially important moment since the

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two thousand and one elections and in
particular the two thousand and six elections.

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These were especially important moments because it
was the post Maidan elections, so Maidan

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two thousand and four. The Belarussian
authorities had tied to prepare because the signal

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was precise that this scenario would be
attempted in Belarus, and the two thousand

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and six elections were the elections when
the linguistic processes of the opposition began with

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renewed vigor. First of all,
playing with feelings of nostalgia, using profusely

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old language still so well. The
West is the enemy. The West wants

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to destroy us, deconstruct our reality
in order to use us. The Belarussian

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Democratic opposition wants to do this in
Belarus because they get money from the West.

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This is the initial easiest path that
has been open to power then discredit,

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but the public no longer believes it. For example, Babarica, Yes,

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the case of Babarica who took pencils
and did everything in the world.

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Another one that's having orgies in Turkey
and so on. So it's a discrediting

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of the leaders of a possible protest. It's devaluation. Definition of distinguishing specific

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classes or even I would say,
the layers of society. First of all

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generational ones. For instance, these
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They are prone to drug addiction or
alcoholism, and so on and so

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on, as we will see in
the frames after two thousand and six when

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they destroyed this tenth town. Then
in the TVs just syringes, bottles,

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glass and so on, and of
course demonization. During summer Lukashenka presented the

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full extent of the language that these
are prostitutes, drug addicts, the social

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elements of society in general. This
work is systematic until the Internet was developed,

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that is, until the Internet appeared
in most Belarussian homes and people in

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their fifties or sixties gained access to
the internet. It worked fine. Of

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course, at the time of digitization, the public did not believe it anymore.

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But evidently language, primarily building a
specific language, the language of the

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image of the opposition, has always
existed. Now it has failed because the

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indoctrination of the state services, especially
members of their special militia units on Mona,

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resulted in the yang Belarussians in the
uniform, not only facing the demonstrators

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but also using brutal violence against them. Few object for this also raises voices.

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Also after examining when their profiles on
social networks were still open, it

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was possible to find out from the
content that they write post comments under the

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photos that they believe it to some
extent. Later anonymous reports appeared in the

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telegram channels that most of the boys
from my part do not want to deal

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with it, but it will be
a punishment later, prisoner punishment. We

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can get ten years for not doing
this and that. So physical preparation,

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as we all see, is there
there is one great unknown when there is

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moral preparation. How ideological processing is
conducted. Although in the first days of

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the protest, unlimited violence was assumed, so through this unlimited violence it was

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necessary to suppress the protests at the
very beginning and close the case. However,

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the further strategies are that sometimes we
hit, sometimes we sometimes harder.

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Sometimes we do not touch women,
but later these women can also be hit.

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We throw rocket grenades and shoot pensioners
during their march. These are decisions

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of specific people, the same amon
man or person who stands in the ranks

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of the military and militia will not
make such decisions. Initially, regime officials

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often refrained from physically attacking women.
As a result, the Belarussians sometimes managed

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to free the arrested men. This
has changed over time. Women are now

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the target of physical attacks, but
also repression against their families, against their

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children. As underlined by Belarussian sociologist
Aleana did Yes, when we talk about

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detention and physical violence, this applies
to all women as well as men,

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but men are more likely to suffer
physical violence to be beaten. It's a

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fact that the repression of women is
more polished and psychological. Women are being

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bullied. Women are being bullied and
intimidated that they'll be stripped of parental rights,

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that the children will be taken away. It was the same with Tikhonovskaya.

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There was a moment when she was
threatened with having her children taken away,

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and at one point set Lana even
considered ending her campaign. Here,

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the authorities have drawn a line for
women, you're either an activist and politician,

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or you're a wife and mother.
The Special Militia Services OMON, however,

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would only be enough to suppress mass
protests on the national scale. The

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regime used the army for this purpose. Army. Yes, the role of

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the army is great. The entire
top brass was militarized. Lukashenko also understands

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the significance of this military elite,
which, for the most part, if

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we are talking about generals and the
highest military ranks, is still Soviet for

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perhaps to some extent post Soviet.
So we also assume some pro Russian sentiments.

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What, in turn, cannot be
said about the younger composition of officers

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who have already grown up in the
conditions of Belarus. Even a few cases

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also appeared on the internet when they
resigned from service. This protest began to

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unfold in August later when the Sunday
marches appeared and on Saturday, the so

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called internal troops became more involved.
Clearly Amon was not up to the task.

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There is also such data that it
is about one thousand, five hundred

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people, and obviously it has simply
not covered within the country, okay,

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in midsk but in the country it
will be quite difficult, and that's why

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soldiers of the internal troops were also
recruited. Therefore, the role of the

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army is large. The generals must
also have certain guarantees, because at some

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point it will also become clear that
they too could make the right decision,

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which would not be in line with
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or some top elite, understood perfectly
well that it was necessary to deal with

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the army first of all with a
militia and in order to keep the ranks,

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and so far it has been successful. Clashes in the streets are the

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most visible part of the confrontation with
the demonstrators. The Pularotian KGB, the

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Public Security Committee, is also active
in the background. The service, originating

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from the Soviet era, is responsible
for intelligence and counter intelligence, but also,

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and perhaps above all, for maintaining
control over its own society. Every

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large and small town in Belarus has
its own KGB branch, and of course

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the right job was done all the
time. Kidnappings of various kinds of persecution

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seemed to be a permanent element of
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On August ninth, however, there
was much more to this work. Watching

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hasty decisions like tzikanoskayas and expelling them
from the country on a quickly adopted strategy

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or taking all the members of the
coordinating council abroad simply expelling them. And

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it was callis Nikova who was surprised
by destroying her passport that she clearly managed

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her break this pattern a little.
A certain surprise existed and functioned in the

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sense that it was related that a
lot of work suddenly happened, but kidnappings

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arrests creating fictitious cases. This is
a plot that has always been occupied by

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the Belarussian KGB, but now there
is a much larger scale of it,

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and you do not have to forget
about your friends in Russia. Frequent visits,

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especially in August early September, of
FSB planes to Minsk. Recently,

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there was also a visit by Narishkin, the director of the Russian FSB,

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who was meeting with Lukashenka. It
can also be said that there is a

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plan with covert coordination by Russia's special
services. They are trying to clean the

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space locally with the local Belarussian KGB
zat. One of the methods of silently

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intimidating Belarussians is to deprive them of
their livelihood. What has been going on

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for the last twenty years is happening
in a nutshells. Economic repressions have always

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been there, now they are just
on a much larger scale. You can

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also guess that the system of employing
people was also done for it, that

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is so called contracts. Not like, for example, in Poland that after

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three years you get a contract for
an indefinite period, in Belarus you get

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a contract all the time with the
management's decision for a year, two or

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three. But all this time is
precisely defined so as not to extend the

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contract or to extend it. It
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pension system, but also to be
able to carry out the so called economic

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repressions. Belarussian society, however,
is allergic and material plane again here referring

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to the social contract that it has
concluded with society. We guarantee you jobs

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and develop peacefully, live staff families, take loans and live a normal life.

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After this contract was broken, after
the largest factories plants in Belarus woke

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up, it was of course remembered
that economic repression should be you to suppress

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this freedom movement to the prey beginning, including the union movement in workplaces and

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an example of this method is two
musicians members of the band Irdorat, who

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posted a short statement on social media. They became famous for street performances of

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the song Pyreman Changes by Victor Toy
and the Russian band Kino Alexandrovitchamoli. That

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stive Anger's dancecape. But it's changes. For changes, we have to enter

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Brasilvania. Yeah, wor d Due
to social activity, they were dismissed from

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Culture Center, where they had been
working for years. Is just that Irdorad

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has no home, But everything will
be fine. Could always wins. Despite

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the use of brute force, protesting
Belarus have not ceased. They change,

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The regime continues. They're also margyrs
readings, cyber partisans are fighting. The

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art of resistance is being born.
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