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Well we'll figure it out. No,

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Alright, someday, I mean,
you know, you'll walk in here.

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It might be I might somebody.
I'm gonna throw you guys off. I'm

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just gonna start saying my name is
Jason. I think I'm fun. I

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think or you're gonna answer to Jason. We're gonna go Jason. Yeah,

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I'm gonna tell Jason and tell you
guys say his name. So, all

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right, what do you got?
So? I think, most enjoyably and

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least surprisingly, the Cardinals get blown
out and by the Chief. So in

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my opinion, like you can't really
use the preseason that's indicator for how it

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teams need to be, except for
this team. So I like it's it's

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just you know, it's just like
worms my you know, the way I

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actually pre preseason games is Usually they
don't mean anything unless you get completely blown

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up by somebody. You just look
in it and that's what they get it.

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Yeah, and in that sense,
I think it does mean something.

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So there's there's a certain amount of
boxes that need to be checked to actually

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take away a message from a preseason
game, and they checked every single box,

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which is a bad thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just a

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few years ago they were halfway decent. They were sucking three years, not

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halfway decent. It was just two
seasons and they started off seven. Yeah,

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and then then they fell apart.
But they looked they only saw pieces

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of it. They looked really bad
yesterday or not get it. They're not

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playing with Kyler Murray, you know. But Mcboy's gonna start the season is

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the is the Yeah, I'm not
sure Murray wouldn't make any difference. It

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was really bad, all right.
And then Martinez J. Would you like

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to share this one? I would
because kind of hits close to home.

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Danny. Danny Martin is a long
time PA announcer at Arizona Softball. He

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was been in their sports information director
for a lot of years, moved over

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to the marketing in department. A
couple of years ago. Happens to be

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my godson. So I've known him
for a while. Great, great kid

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worked well, I shouldn't call hm
a kid anyways, in his mid thirties.

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Anyways, today he was named mid
thirties. No, he'll be thirty

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four. And really the reason I
know that Danny Martinez was born on the

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morning of the game, remember the
Pacific game where Hammersmid blew out his knee

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October eighty nine. And he was
born at like two o'clock in the morning

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on that morning. I know that
because we were sleeping on the couch at

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at TMC waiting for him to be
born. My life nine. But anyways,

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Wildcat his entire life. Uh.
He started working as an intern.

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Uh he's been working there full time
since he got out of school. He'll

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be I think he'll be a life
for it at at McHale in a in

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a really good way. But now
the director of Operations, which is basically

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an administrative right hand man to to
Caitlyn Low just kind of runs all the

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administrative stuff, travel all those kinds
of things. So he's got as got

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a job on the softball staff and
Arizona and again a really really good guy,

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hard worker, just got married last
year. Yeah, so these guys

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aren't getting they are I mean,
so you know what I got, and

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not be specifically because of this higher
she's already hired a couple two or three

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people right in her new staff.
Right, they're gonna be I think they're

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gonna be okay eventually. Yeah,
you know, it's been a last year

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was a kind of struggle. But
I think they're gonna get there. It's

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a hard transition from a leegend,
right that pitching, if think get better

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pitching. Yeah, that's all you
got to do, Okay, Okay,

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sure, all right, all right? And then the preseason eight people the

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All Americans was released. Jacob Cowey
may the second team, second team APE.

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I think I think it's I would
say it's accurate. I don't don't

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think it's surprising. Well, there's
just some guys in the PAC twelve.

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Who are is it the PAC twelve? Still? It is for this year?

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Right? Everything started school? Who
are you know who are really good

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singer on there? No? Probably
I didn't check it. I didn't see

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that, but you know what it
makes the Mikes, the the loss of

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him. Uh. We talked about
this a little on Saturday, right and

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Jay where they lost singer. But
but they're okay, yeah, they got

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guys. They still got guys.
They got a bunch of guys, and

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I think no, one hundred percent
believe that. You know, they're gonna

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they've got enough guys pretty at that
position, looking you don't want to lose

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a Dorian Singer. But you know, in Arizona's case, you know they

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got uh, you know, they
got they got guys who can who can

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you know, fit right in And
that's what they did. I'm looking at

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the U, I'm trying to get
the first team here. I'm not seeing

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it. But you know, they
just they just had the ability to recover

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from that one. Uh you know
in uh, you know, they went

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and got the kid from Colorado who
you know, is he is good to

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the Ryan Singer? We don't know, but he certainly was pretty darn good,

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good enough that a lot of people
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into the TRASF report. All right, and then Jonathan Taylor was given permission

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to seek a trade by the Colts
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That was strange, Like the whole
the whole thing right, Well, I

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mean he's he's he's young, Like
what is he twenty five? Yeah?

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Yeah, and and and you know
then they come, you know, he

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wanted he you know, he just
wants to get an extension on his contract.

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They tell him you're not worth the
crap because you're running back, We're

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not going to give it to you. And then he says, okay,

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then I can. Then I want
to be traded, and they said,

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well, we're not gonna trade you
either, and then like okay, so

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now they are they going to t
he's twenty four, and it was it

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was two years ago when he was
twenty two, he had you know,

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one of the most like explosive seasons
in receume. Besides like Derrick Henry was

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right, it was you know that
was up there. If if like I

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don't understand what they would lose for
trying to like not not trying to train

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him, but they won't give him
ex sension. So it's like all you

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do is you'd either like you don't
have him upset and and just like want

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to you know, sit out,
or you'd have him play with a terrorli

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attitude, which I could totally see
that and look in these running backs are

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they're kind of they're in a bad
spot, right they you know, they

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got a beverage, right, they
got zero leverage. They got to get

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their money so that they can because
they know that they're gonna be out of

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the league in a few years.
And you know, there's still worth something.

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I mean, you still need a
Jonathan Taylor on your team. Like

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think of a think of a position
where the more you produce, the less

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your value exactly. Like it's it's
like it's just used against you. It's

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oh, you're now you're gonna be
more beat up next season. Yeah,

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I don't know. I mean,
yeah, this is what this Michigan self

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imposes a three game band for Harbaugh. Yeah, that's interesting after saying they're

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gonna wait like for four you know
the four, right, the four games

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that they were gonna get. Yeah, so and again you or I could

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coach Michigan in those first three games. He's gonna be sitting at home having

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a beer, hanging out, watching
the game, relaxing, and then he'll

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come out and you know he'll coach, but you know, what are you

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gonna do again? It was one
of those situations where the they'll call it

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the misleading, I'll call it.
The line was worse than the crime,

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right, I mean, he you
know, they did some stuff they got

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caught. Instead of owning up to
it, he tried to mislead the NC

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double A and they said that's not
gonna fly. And now he's in trouble.

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I bet you they still give him
the other game though, I bitually

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he gets one more, you know, to the NBA or whatever, it's

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gonna give him the Yeah. Yeah, So did you see following the Women's

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World Cup there was like some some
little cliff very thing they went viral where

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the Spain Spain's like football federation president
or something kiss one of the players in

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the lifts like just after that,
like just a picture. Yeah. I

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saw it. Red about it that
he did it. I don't feel like,

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first of all, I don't know
what their entire relationship is, but

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I people were upset about it,
that's all you kind of really Yeah,

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well, let me say this.
I don't know why people were upset about

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it, because one, it doesn't
involve them, although I'm Boddy's saying something

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wrong, but he did apologize yesterday
or today that it happened because he was

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kind of caught up in the emotion
of the whole thing right the end.

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I mean, I'm kind of like
he was kissing his daughters. Yeah,

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just kind of like, you know, did happened and it just happened.

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I don't know. People have every
kind of complain about a lot of different

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things, and and maybe there's just
for complaining about this, But there was

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no untowardly that's what he said.
You know, there was nothing there.

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He was just excited that they just
won. He wasn't like hitting on her.

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No, No, it's just you
don't kind of excite. Yeah,

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you see it all the time.
No, no, you don't see it

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all the time. But it's a
celebration of what you don't see it.

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A profit got people fired up,
sure, sure, but you see celebrations

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and in in it just kind of
things that happened. If there's a word,

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I can't remember what. I don't
know why. I don't know why

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I'm thinking of this, but I
am been promptu. I remember when Willie

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Twatma got here. And I don't
know if you ever noticed, but like

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on uh, you know, senior
day or and stuff like that. You

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know, when his when his parents
were on the field, his dad would

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give him a kiss on the lips. I never noticed, you know,

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because you know, you go up, you give him a heart or whatever,

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and even if it's your mom,
you know, kiss on the jor

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whatever. But that it was kind
of like that's what their family does.

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Sure, And there was nothing wrong
with that. Sure, But he and

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you know, his dad would kiss
him on the lips and you know,

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you know, like when he was
being honored and that kind of stuff.

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I thought that was really interesting to
see. Or or at the end of

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a game, if his dad was
on the field and go out, you

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know he will he would go because
his dad, and that would gi him

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hugging and kiss on the lips.
And I thought, some people that's how

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you do think. Sure well,
I kind of joked about this sub I

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don't know over the weekends. And
you know how old Mary people talk.

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They yell at each other, that's
how they communicate. There's no nothing bad

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about it. It's just how the
communicant. It's just the way. It

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is. Something young young and then
some people do it and they wind up

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single. Yes, yes, do
you think we should keep in mind that,

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like obviously a big thing. It's
it's the culture is completely different.

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Yeah, that's a great point,
A great point one percent. I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't say, like obviously,
you know it's normal, especially on

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that type of till I was just
kissing on this. But it's like,

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let's say he wasn't. You know, you caught up in emotions. You

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kind of what comes out is kind
of the stuff you've kind of been that's

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like engraved in right, What are
you sure by rays know? A great

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great point, great point. No
learned something I did learn something I didn't.

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I mean honestly, I kind of
just like thought of that. No,

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No, but it's it's great.
Cultures have different ways of doing this,

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all right. Going back to the
preseason All America team, because I

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wanted to circle back to this because
because if you recall, uh, what's

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his name? I don't know,
Jacob Cowing. He was second team All

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pac twelve all right, preseason all
right? He second team All America all

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right, the first team, first
team All American receivers, three of them,

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two of them from a house state, Marvin Harrison Junior and a Mecca

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Bucca and then uh Rome o'dunzi or
o'dunze. I guess the kid from Washington

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was one of the first team All
Pac twelve guys and then second team All

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America Xavier Worthy from Texas, Malik
Neighbors from LSU, and Jacob Cowing from

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Arizona. So nobody else from the
Pac twelve. So Jacob Cohen, basically

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corner of the AP, is one
of the top two receivers in the league

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and he got second team All Pack
twelve. From the guys here, but

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as you might expect, Caleb Williams, the Guisman Trophy guy. First team

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quarterback Blake Quorum from Michigan, Quinshawn
Judkins from Mississippi or the running backs.

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The second team quarterback was Drake May
from North Carolina, Raheem Sanders from Arkansas,

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Braylon Allen from Wisconsin. Of the
running backs, Uh, let's see,

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im trying to see, trying to
see the Pac twelve guys that are

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in there. Travis Hunter, kid
from Colorado is the h is an all

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purpose player on the first team,
which you know when you think about Colorado,

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they're not very good, but yet
they have a preseason first Team All

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American on their team. Good for
them. And Stanford's kicker Joshua Carty the

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first team All America. But you
know, again, it's it's all,

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it's all relative, and it's all
kind of okay. So what but USC's

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got some guys on the first team
defense. What else do I see a

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bunch of a bunch of a house
steak guys. Well, you mentioned USC.

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The a d R was going to
USC, right, Jen got con

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got named us? How is that? How was that fly going into I've

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got got it. I got a
friend who uh, you know, went

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to Washington. I'm on a chat
with him all the time and I said,

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is that a you know, good
thing or bad thing? And he's

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like not sure. You know,
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she got Washington into the Big ten, so if it was gonna all

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that. So, you know,
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of just one of those things where
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we'll find somebody else, right right, No, congrats with her. I'm

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staying in the conference, which is
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from one program sort of but not
but you know, but you know you're

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gonna be gone next to It's like
when I've and good Kim here from Washington

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State. Uh, it's like a
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So I apologize, who's run on
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that one, but jump to a
better horse because he knows that this is

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a better order, right, Yeah? Does that make sense? Yeah,

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no, it doesn make sense.
So I mean, either way, she's

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in the big ten, right,
and she's on the team that caused all

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of this, so you know,
so that's yeah, I mean you just

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go with it. All right,
Let's take our second, our last,

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you. Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez
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the phone. We have Justin Spears
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the radio shows. Somebody yeah,
yeah, hey, you know, hey,

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justin. I just want to I
wanted to get this out because it's

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kind of a disclaimer. Okay,
I don't you saw that. You know,

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I made some brownies for Jason,
you know, because we talked about

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that on the shows his last day
that we didn't do anything for him,

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and he said he love brownies.
I made him some brownies and I brought

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him to the scrimmage, thinking,
you know, he'll pass them around.

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Boy, he hoarded those things.
I mean he protected them to the end.

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I mean he still had them under
his arm and nobody was touching his

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brownies. I thought, you know, you'd get one, I'd get one,

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Steve would get one. You just
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I mean to be honest. So
you that's a veteran move right there,

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because he knows that, you know
what. You know, Eventually,

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I'm gonna you know, it's gonna
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I'm gonna be you know, getting
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You know, I want to be
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brownies as possible. So I get
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it, bro, And you're spot
on. You know why too. He's

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a student exactly. You imation everything. He was clutching those things tight all

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the way to the very end.
So so you're still kind of in the

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groove of being the beat guy.
What do you see? Uh? So

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far, I see a lot of
size up front on both the offense and

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the defensive line. But as we
all know, one of the biggest storylines

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of training camp is the number of
new bodies that they have on defense,

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specifically the front six right, because
you know, I mean, typically it's

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the front seven defenders, right,
but Johnny Nansen utilizes a four two five

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defense. In this case, we're
gonna use front six defenders. And I

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was actually looking at the updated weight
in Arizona's roster right now, and I

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added up all the weights of the
new defensive linemen through the trans reportals,

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and just from five guys, we're
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twenty something pounds. I don't know
what the exact number is, but it

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comes out to I believe two hundred
and ninety seven pounds per players. So

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I think that's one thousand, four
hundred and twenty five. So think about

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that two hundred ninety seven average bringing
in and these guys are shuttling in and

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out, and John and Anson said
after the scrimmage on Saturday that he wants

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to use anywhere from eight to nine
defensive linemen in the game because on average,

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you're playing about eighty five to ninety
snaps on defense, so you want

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to make sure that you have as
many fresh legs and big bodies in there

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as possible. And they're doing that. I mean every five or six plays,

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we're talking about you know, four
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in and out of the game.
Now, how is that going to work?

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You know, on week to week
basis, depending on the opponent you

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have. I mean, hey,
some offenses play at a faster tempo,

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so are you going to have time
to you know, get guys in and

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now that's going to be something that
you know, we should definitely look forward

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to. But you know the amount
of size that they have a front,

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And also, I think the secondary
has really been the most improved group out

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of anyone in training camp because you
know, we all knew about uh Ephesians,

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Price Sock and Takario Davis. You
know, those guys are expected to

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be Arizona's two starting corners. But
then you have these other two guys coming

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in and jay Avian Celestine, this
you know, kind of young guy out

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of Miami and they putting him out
there. And I've seen him make plays

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defending Jacob Cowing in the slot and
also being on the outside on T Mac

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and T Max got about six inches
on him. So it doesn't matter what

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body type you put this guy on. Celestine is going to cover. And

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then another guy who's really immerged in
training camp. And to be honest with

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you, guys, I actually think
he might start against any of you here

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coming up. And that's doing whyat
this sixth year guy who last played at

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cal Poly. Johnny and Anson said, this guy's like a like a sponge

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of information. He's like almost like
a coach out there. You tell him

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one thing and he's not a rep
guy. He just goes out there and

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just does it. And he's really
ascended in camp last week, had a

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couple of picks during the team period
and then and then he got the start

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in the scrimmage. Does that mean
he's gonna start against any of you will

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find out. But the fact that
you have these guys ascending and now we

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have cornerback controversy, which I didn't
think was a thing. And then you

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have all these safeties that are competing
for those two spots at free safety and

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strong safety, so many bodies that
you can utilize and Arizona, I mean,

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they might use Genesis Smith, true
freshman who's the biggest out of all

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them, or they can rely on
the guys you know that they have coming

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back, like a Gunner Maldonado and
Isaiah Taylor. But you know, last

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year Arizona used a Dollar Package defense, which is very defensive back heavy,

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and I think no matter who gets
the start at safeties at both those spots,

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I don't think they're going to hurt
anyone's feelings because I really feel like

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all the dvs that they have right
now, all those guys are getting the

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reps, and at safety they're going
to be getting a significant amount of playing

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time because Johnny Nansen is going to
be using that Dollar package, which was

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very useful last year, and I
think it will be the case this year.

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You know, one of the things
that Steve and I were talking about

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a little bit ago is that,
well they've gotten bigger. Have they caught

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up? Right? Because they were
really undersized for a couple of years and

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have been for a while and have
been historically. But are have they caught

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up sizewise to the PAC twelve or
are they still are? They still got

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a ways to go. I think
they're taught up to other teams in the

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PAC twelve. But you know those
other teams of PAC twelve, they've been

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added for so many years. They
know exactly what they're good at and what

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their blueprint should be. Utah,
they have so much depths on both sides

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of the ball up front, and
year in and year out, those guys

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are always going to have just big
bodies. I mean USC that just kind

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of comes to the territory because they're
in southern California and they're the big school.

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So you know, getting three hundred
pounders isn't really a big deal to

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USC and Stanford, even though we
all know that they're going to be the

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dormat of the Pack twelve year in
and year out. You know, that's

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that's the team that always has the
still get good guys on both offensive defensive

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line. But I think Arizona has
taught up now. Good news is they

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have some versatility. Like I said, you know they if they get into

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a situation where you know they're playing
up against a really good run team,

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they can use all those big bodies
to plug in and play the gaps and

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and be the day Bears. As
Johnny Nanson calls, he wants the defensive

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tackles to be dancing bears. He
wants them to be big, but also

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light on their feet and make plays. If they get into a situation where

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they're playing against the smouse Mouth running
team, they can use those big bodies.

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But if they get into kind of
a shootout passing contest, that's when

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that dollar package is going to come
into play. And I think you know

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just teams right off the bat,
but I think you know where that dollar

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packs to be very useful against is
Washington and USC. But then one thing

405
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.920
about USC is that they also have
good running backs that just seem to come

406
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.720
out of nowhere every time they play
against Arizona. So the Wildcats need to

407
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.799
be on their p's and hues and
they play against the Trojan and no doubt,

408
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.680
So call me surprise, not surprise. What do you think about the

409
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.240
linebacker spots. I think you may
have asked the question Saturday, but justin

410
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.680
Floe is battling that with I don't
even know how to pronounce the next guy.

411
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.720
But are you are you surprised by
that? Justin Floe is kind of

412
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.480
that guy you think you can play
and do very well. But your thoughts,

413
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.960
Yeah, I think that it's not
what I expected, to be honest

414
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.839
with you, because in spring they
decided to kind of toy around with the

415
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.160
lineups and they bring in this Daniel
high Moolley guy who's a transfer from Washington.

416
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.680
Now, mind you, when he
was in high school, he was

417
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.359
also a highly rated recruit. He
was a four star guy. He wasn't

418
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.319
like Justin Flow all American number one
rated inside linebacker type of hype, but

419
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:33.240
he was still a very highly recruited
guy. Things didn't work out in Washington.

420
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.279
He kind of got into a little
off the field scuffle at at a

421
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.480
nearby bar in Washington, and things
just didn't work out with the Huskies,

422
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:47.640
and so he goes into the trans
reportal and in Arizona brings him in and

423
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.359
I thought, okay, well,
Justin Flows the guy next to Jacob Bonnet,

424
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.119
that's how it's going to be.
And then the second week of spring

425
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.960
ball, all of a sudden,
you see Daniel High Moolley started and getting

426
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.599
a lot of love, and Justin
Floe kind of got out the rotation a

427
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.240
little bit. We all started to
wonder, oh man, what's going on

428
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.839
with Justin Flow. He's already,
you know, two weeks into this and

429
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.240
he's already out of the starting lineup, Like is he really that big of

430
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.319
a bus? And then Justin Floe
came in kind of late spring and really

431
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:18.160
started to make plays and was making
plays in the spring game too, and

432
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:19.880
got back into that rotation. So
I figured, you know, it was

433
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:25.880
Johnny Nthon just saying, all right, we have this great linebacker, this

434
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.519
guy who is amazing, but maybe
we don't need to dial it back a

435
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.079
little bit, and allowed him to
take those mental reps. But then once

436
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.640
he got back in the rotation,
I'm like, okay, things are settled.

437
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.480
Justin flows back in the mix.
And then training camp starts. You

438
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.519
got Justin Flow out there with Jakomanus
looking like, okay, everything's going according

439
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.400
to plan. And then this Daniel
High movie guy just comes out of nowhere.

440
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.880
And he's been so consistent all practice. We've seen him consistently get in

441
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.759
the backfield and get TFLs put pressure
on the quarterback when need and I think

442
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.920
that this guy is the real do
And honestly, this is a good problem

443
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.759
for Arizona. You know, if
you have this player the caliber of Justin

444
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.599
Floe and we're questioning if if he
should start or not, that is a

445
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:14.680
really good problem for Arizona. So
I really don't know who's going to start,

446
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.279
Johnny Manson says the middle linebacker spots
neck and neck. I honestly,

447
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.559
I could not tell you. But
I think maybe if I were just to

448
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.440
be a betting man and just take
a guess that, I think Justin Flow

449
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:33.400
will start against any you and maybe
they'll kind of allow him to maybe lose

450
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.119
the job a little bit, because
I feel like Justin Flow has a lot

451
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.160
more to lose than a guy like
Daniel him Mooley at this point. Yeah,

452
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:41.559
no, and you know, and
that and that's the thing we've been

453
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.000
talking about, not so much that
how much better their guys are, although

454
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.359
you know, everybody gets better or
allegedly gets better, you know, you're

455
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.920
as as you grow along, but
that there's more guys who are better.

456
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.839
As as you said, in this
situation, they got two guys who they're

457
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.359
going to be comfortable with playing.
You know, I think the same thing

458
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.240
at quarterback. We're talking a little
bit to go about you know, we

459
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.599
were talking about North Fafied and I'm
like, what do you think about North

460
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.920
Feed? And I said, I'm
comfortable if that guy has to play.

461
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.240
And you know, if if Delora
gets hurt and then you got you think

462
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.559
that you think of the four running
backs that they got that they're going to

463
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.119
roll out there, you'd be happy
with any one of those guys as a

464
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.519
starter. So I think that I
think that seems to me to be the

465
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.759
huge difference in year three, that
it's not just that they're better, but

466
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:29.400
that there's more of them. Yes, and and that's a great problem to

467
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.440
have of your program. Now you
have depth. And it's crazy to think

468
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:38.079
that we're talking about this when just
two years ago, guys we were asking,

469
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.720
man, does Arizona have any depth? Whatsoever? Can mean? Can

470
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.519
they win one game in the Pac
twelve? We all know that they're going

471
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.319
to be able to get by any
you and then come to find out that

472
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.279
they didn't get by any We were
wondering if we were wondering if there is

473
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:59.440
even a quarterback on campus. Yes, I mean, and not only did

474
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.000
lose any but they lost an EU
which was down to their third string quarterback.

475
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.279
It was a true freshman. It
was just it was just all bad

476
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.039
for Arizona that season, in that
particular night. But you know, we

477
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:15.200
were asking ourselves, then, holy
crap, Kevin, someone gutted the program

478
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:21.839
so much. Will Jet fish,
even if he puts together the great efforts,

479
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:29.359
will he be able to kind of
restore the roster and add stuff in

480
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:35.359
the cupboards And in just two years, Jet and his staff have been able

481
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.559
to do that, right, Yeah, no question. I started today's show

482
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.880
with kind of the story I wrote
over the weekend. I'm not sure if

483
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.279
we've asked you how how many wins
you think to having him? But but

484
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.440
I think it's not going to be
the offense. It's going to be how

485
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.039
good the defense is that they'll determine
that. Well. That was also the

486
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:59.160
case last year, right because Arizona's
offense put up thirty one point per game.

487
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.960
They had the sixth best passing offense
in college football. I mean,

488
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:08.680
they had probably had the biggest differential
in splash plays from the twenty twenty one

489
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.839
season. The twenty twenty two,
Like it was all good offensively for Arizona,

490
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:20.079
but defensively, I mean the Wildcats
got worn down by Mississippi State.

491
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.160
Yeah, I know that wasn't Jadon
Dolor's best game and threw a few picks,

492
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:28.359
but I think Mississippi State, in
their experience, I think eventually just

493
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.200
wore down Arizona late in that game. I mean, you saw Utah.

494
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.799
They were just completely on the whole
another level that game last season. So

495
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:38.519
I mean, but outside of that, you know, there were you know,

496
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.920
games that were Arizona. I mean, they were right there and if

497
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.599
they had just stopped a run or
put together a better defensive game plan,

498
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.759
then they probably would have won.
You know that That col game is the

499
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.440
one that always sticks out to me
because if they if Arizona had just stopped

500
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:58.400
the run and got off the fields
and helped out their offense, and Arizona

501
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.400
would have won that game. And
Arizona is winning six games and go to

502
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.160
a bowl game, which is a
pretty miraculous turnaround considering they went one to

503
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.199
eleven the season prior. But I
don't think Arizona fans are complaining, Yes,

504
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.000
there could have been you know a
lot of things that went differently last

505
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.920
year, a lot of what if
moments that maybe could have had a better

506
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:21.079
season for Arizona. But you ask
any Arizona football fan, they'll tell you

507
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:27.039
they will take last season every day
of the weekend twice on Sunday because they

508
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.119
beat Arizona State and they weren't the
laughing stock of the Pac twelve. And

509
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.159
if you're not going to make a
bowl game, as long as you win

510
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.840
that last game, you're okay in
Arizona fans eyes all right? Justin?

511
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:47.760
How many wins trying to get me
in trouble? Are am? We won't

512
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:53.360
ask you which one, just how
many? So I will say that their

513
00:34:53.480 --> 00:35:04.840
floor is six wins? Wow,
that's the what are you see? It's

514
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.199
one of those like you know,
parking structures where where you're walking kind of

515
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:13.159
like that you're not you're not at
the league court. It's already flooded a

516
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:20.159
day. So I'm gonna go the
floor. It's six wins ceiling, eight

517
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:27.519
wins? Wow? What makes you
say that? Justin? Because the Pack

518
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.119
twelve is so wacky this year that
anything can happen, like no joke.

519
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.599
I seriously think the Pac twelve is
going to be so upside down. This

520
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:43.199
year, it's gonna be the type
of season where USC is undefeated and they're

521
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.519
gonna lose the Arizona at home at
the Coliseum. Like, I think it's

522
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.320
going to be that kind of wild
this year. It's the last year,

523
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.280
it's the last dance of the conference, a lot of really good teams from

524
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.320
top to bottom. Anyone can be
beat on any given day. So that's

525
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.360
why that's why I'm saying six day
wins just because I think Arizona is gonna

526
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.360
win maybe a game or two that
they shouldn't, but they also might drop

527
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.960
a game that they also shouldn't with
the league, With the league the way

528
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.119
it is, you know, people
are talking about that this is their best

529
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.880
chance to get into the playoff.
But I mean somebody's got to run the

530
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.280
table or come close to running the
table. And you know, as you

531
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.360
say weekend a week out, it's
gonna be hard. You think Arizona can

532
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:27.840
beat USC, but you know they
can lose to Colorado. I mean,

533
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.320
yeah, are they going to cannibalize
themselves? What do you see? Yeah?

534
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.079
I think it's going to be another
one of those years where we're just

535
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.119
gonna be like, man, the
Pac twelve is so good, but you

536
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.039
know, the best team has you
know, two different losses, and it's

537
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.000
going to be kind of on the
outside looking in when it comes to just

538
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:53.000
be a p picture. Unfortunately that's
the case. But you know, if

539
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.559
I'm you know, choosing a dark
horse team to you know, maybe put

540
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.440
put together a run in the Pac
twelve. The Organ State I love,

541
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.559
I love what Jonathan Smith is doing. They have a quarterback now and dju

542
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.159
they run the hell out of the
football. They played good defense. Jim

543
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.320
Halcheck, former Arizon offensive line coach, in my opinion, is one of

544
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.320
the best assistants in the country.
So you look out for those Organ State

545
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.559
Beavers up there in Corvallace. In
a year where the pack swave is gonna

546
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.760
get whacky, it would be so
on brand for Organ State. The school

547
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.920
is getting left behind in all this, well, that would be a story

548
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.519
given the finger to everybody. Hey, you know what, as I see

549
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.119
your six s eight and you gotta
go. But your six is kind of

550
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.840
like a smart, smart, little
clever thing because because they could very easily

551
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.800
would say we talked about this right, six wins, Okay, that's good,

552
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.280
but the sea but the bottom.
That's a good, nice little little

553
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.199
throw there. I like your little
number. I like your little number.

554
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:57.840
You're throwing the dark right where you
need to throw the dark exactly exactly what

555
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.719
You're a stage, nice forty year
old talk right there. Thanks, Thanks,

556
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.840
justin. Thanks, we'll see you
around. Thank you guys any time.

557
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.599
No, I think so, because
you know to me you're gonna say

558
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:14.559
four, I'm gonna say four as
a as a floor. Four. I

559
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.360
think the floor is five, okay, floors four? Okay, four,

560
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.400
five, four, five, six, you know five, six, Okay,

561
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.920
it's not a bad. We looked
at each other, like what,

562
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.920
but you know it's probably right.
Yeah, get six, man, just

563
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.920
get six. Just get the six
and get into a ball game. Okay,

564
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.960
that'll be good enough for me.
Okay, that'll be good enough for

565
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.639
me after what we went there.
All right, let's take our break.

566
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I mean, I Heart Radio WAP. This is I on the Ball

626
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with Steve on Fox Sports fifty.
Hey, welcome back to the ball here

627
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.000
Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve. He's Jake uh Noah with us today.

628
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.119
They look at you, say Noah. Noah was justin, I'm not

629
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.239
sure what to make of your cap? No, you got it, you

630
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.119
know, I'm a I'm a I
don't like. I don't like the you

631
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.679
know, variation of the Dodger cap. It's the it's the All Star game

632
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:31.199
edition, the All Star game edition. Yeah, all Star game. The

633
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.960
Dodgers on the team wear that cap
with the yellow logo and the gray lit

634
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.400
the great thing, and then the
game. I don't think they did.

635
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.599
I don't think I wouldn't noticed.
Maybe, but I mean I get it.

636
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.559
It's a it's an All Star game
cap. And then it's like Rams

637
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.199
colors too, so it's sick what
Rams colors? You know, yell and

638
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:53.639
blue. That's why they didn't win
the World Series left that's bought that for

639
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.119
that. For the Dodger fans out
there, it's it's the blue cap.

640
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.559
It's got the Dodger lo. The
LA logo on the cap is yellow and

641
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.159
then the bill is gray. I'm
not sure what to make of that.

642
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.280
It's like, I don't even like, you know, their their City Connect

643
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:15.199
uniforms, so they got the blue
lid with the black bill on the cap.

644
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.199
I'm like, I just feel like
the Dodger cap like the Yankee cap

645
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.280
is pure. It can't be.
You can't do something different with it.

646
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:30.840
That sucks. It's a good answer, it's a good answer. All right.

647
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.119
We'll just leave it at that.
If anybody wants to call we hell

648
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.239
about nine minutes we went over with
Justin is a good time? Five two

649
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.159
o four one, six, seventy
four forty give us a call. Or

650
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.519
we're gonna do some things on Friday. Maybe go out of the box.

651
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.039
Maybe you get your your your predictions
on a lot of different things. That's

652
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:50.239
what we're gonna do. Right Wait, you know where where our Friday Football

653
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.320
pick, Our fab five Friday picks
are gonna kick in, not this Friday,

654
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.519
but the following Friday. We should
change the NATO not so fab the

655
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:04.400
f never mind of five never mind
anyways, but we're gonna start those picks

656
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.920
a week from Friday with the first
big weekend of college football. We know

657
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.440
there's some games this weekend, uh, there's a handful of games, but

658
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.000
the first big weekend of games uh
is the following week. So we'll post

659
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:22.119
those on on on our social media. Just remind everybody, I did beat

660
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.719
Steve last year in the season long
contest, So he has to pay my

661
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.599
entry into the football pool that we're
in together. So I got that going

662
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.440
for me. I don't know what. We haven't decided what the wager is

663
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.079
for this year. We're going to
just do that again. All right,

664
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.519
we'll do that again. It will
never happen again for the for those of

665
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:44.000
you who don't know, it's worth
sixty bucks. So Steve's got to pay

666
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.760
my entry. Well, yeah,
until I won the first year, you

667
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.840
did, you did, and you
killed me the first year, and then

668
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.199
we tied, tied, right,
and then we tied the second year.

669
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.000
So I was terrible that first year. I was very good. What are

670
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.079
you talking about? Oh yeah,
well you want you want to finished second

671
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.360
in the pools? But anyway to
another five ten years. Yeah, But

672
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:05.320
on Friday, on Friday, Steve
and I are going to go through our

673
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.079
over unders on all of the PAC
twelve teams over under wine. When when

674
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:16.519
when Justin talked about the league being
what it is, uptopsy turvy blah blah

675
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:21.119
blah, I don't know, I
don't know. I think the teams it's

676
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:22.440
going to be the same. Well, it's always like this, Steve,

677
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.360
you know, it's always like that. Where Yeah, USC may be the

678
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.920
best team in the league, but
they can get beat by a lot of

679
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.519
sure. Sure, and they basically
do because that's what's crushed through UH in

680
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.079
the past. I mean, really, how many teams in the SEC can

681
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.440
beat Georgia two? Maybe? Yeah, maybe maybe two? You know,

682
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.000
same thing with Alabama, you know, and Alabama is one of the two,

683
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.320
right and Alabama on the other side, maybe two, maybe LSU,

684
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.079
you know, but nobody else is
beating those guys. Arizona can beat USC,

685
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.320
you know, Uh, Oregon State
really can beat USC. I mean,

686
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.519
there's a bunch of teams that can
beat the top of the you know,

687
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.639
the top of the league. And
that's been always that's always seemed to

688
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:06.960
have been the case in what pack
by saying that? And I think I

689
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.639
saw something earlier today about wins and
losses, and I think maybe it was

690
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.480
on my post. I can't remember. Give me the win percentage against USC,

691
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:19.239
the wincent it's low. Yeah,
well that's why I ask it's low.

692
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.039
But but they've beaten them at times
when you least expect. I'm asking

693
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.239
for percent, your honor, I
want to answer, look it up.

694
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.239
No, no, no, no, give me a win percent I think

695
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.480
it is. I bet you it's
about I bet you it's under thirty.

696
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.840
Yeah, okay, that's fair.
Yeah, that's fair. I mean there

697
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.639
was a time. I mean,
I think it's Arizona beat him for the

698
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.239
first time in nineteen eighty one,
and that when they were number one.

699
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:45.840
Even over the years since then,
they played them used it has won most

700
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:46.679
of those games. Yeah, yeah, no, but they've played them tough.

701
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:50.519
I'll give you that. Because you
think they're never gonna beat him in

702
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.400
the place, play close, They
close, and they beat him in Arizona

703
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:58.039
beat him in ninety three. I
don't think they even played him in ninety

704
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.679
eight. They beat him in ninety
because I remember they beat both USC and

705
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:07.360
UCLA on the road in ninety Uh. You know, There's been a few

706
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.880
other times, but it's been you
know, not that many. Okay,

707
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.079
So there's that no Washington because people
I think I think I think that's also

708
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:21.239
very lopsided as well. That's gonna
be about thirty five percent. I'm gonna

709
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.760
put that over thirty because Washington went
through a tough, a tough stretch you

710
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.039
know, about four or five years
there that I think Arizona handled him pretty

711
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.119
well. So about forty percent.
I have a chance to be. No,

712
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:34.800
I don't think. I don't think
it's forty three percent. I'm gonna

713
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.480
say, I'm gonna say mid thirty. Okay, and then here and here

714
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.760
you go with Oregon, a team
that they that they used to be it

715
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:45.280
all the time, but more you
know, let's let's you know recently,

716
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.119
is that like a fifty I bet
you Arizona is in the forties. I'm

717
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.480
looking I'm I'm calling it the media
guy right now, so I can look

718
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.119
this out because I think that.
But I'm talking about the chances of winning

719
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.239
this year, winning this year,
or the chance of winning this year.

720
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.400
I think Arizona has got about a
twenty five percent chance to beat USC Okay,

721
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.960
yeah, I think that's right.
Yeah, probably about a thirty five

722
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.280
percent chance to be I'm gonna put
that at forty because that game is gonna

723
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.440
be here, okay, Okay.
I think I think if Washington comes in

724
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.719
without their guard up, okay,
and it's early in the season, so

725
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.280
they they'll have their guard up,
but they're Washington. They're the team that

726
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.159
you thought right would win the league. But I think coming here is gonna

727
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.039
be hard, and I think Arizona
can beat them. I don't. I'm

728
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:29.760
gonna put that about forty What game
is that it's it's it's the fifth game

729
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.039
of the year, fifth game of
the year. So you're assuming that there's

730
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:35.119
gonna be a crowd, there's gonna
be some five Arizona will be at a

731
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.519
minum three and one. Okay,
okay, okay, there should be so,

732
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.639
but you're assuming that this is gonna
be a home court, home field

733
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:45.039
advantage. Yeah. When was the
last time that happened? I don't know,

734
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.320
but you understand my point, right, right? So I think that

735
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.000
I believe that, uh, you
know, Washington maybe a forty percent chance

736
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.800
of winning that game. Okay,
No, they don't play Oregon, right,

737
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.039
which is great for them, and
then they go to Washington State.

738
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:06.519
Okays, State came down here beat
the Dolora pretty soundly. A Dolora had

739
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.239
there's probably worst game of his career. That's fifty fifty games. Really,

740
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:13.079
even though the game's up there,
would you are you a little biased?

741
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.360
A little biased? I think Arizona
is better than Washington State, Okay,

742
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.519
okay, I just think Arizona is
better than Washington State. I just think

743
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.719
that it's gonna be tough for them
to go up there and win. It's

744
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.639
hard to win. And Washington right
and always been, yeah, always husband.

745
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.760
Okay, I mean that's just I
mean, that's just so give me

746
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.800
the fifty fifty games UCLA fifty fifty
game again. That game's here, Okay.

747
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:45.480
I think Oregon State is like at
I'm gonna say that's that's close.

748
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.639
That's close because it's here. Oregon. Oregon right now is respected as a

749
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:55.519
top twenty teen. They are.
They are. I think I'm never gonna

750
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.039
persuade you the other way, but
but I think that I think you're not

751
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:06.639
you're not giving the other team enough
enough whatever. I don't because it's gonna

752
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.119
be a good league. They're They're
good for a reasons. And I'm not

753
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:13.679
dismissing Arizona because they're gonna better know
that. We know that it's gonna be

754
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.119
tough. It's gonna be tough.
No, it's gonna be a hard league.

755
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.360
Wait, you know, weekend and
week out. I mean, look,

756
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.360
I think Arizona by that time,
by the time they play them,

757
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.119
I could see Arizona going up and
lives in Colorado right when I think Colorado

758
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.519
is probably only gonna win three or
four games, but you gotta go up

759
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.920
there and you gotta play. So
okay, here's the here's just for the

760
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:44.679
record purposes. Arizona is eleven twenty
five and one against Washington. They are

761
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:51.599
seventeen eighteen, twenty seven and two
against UCLA. They're eight and thirty eight

762
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:58.199
against USC. You know, but
you know, again, there's eight of

763
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.199
them, and you just never know
when they can jump up and bite.

764
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:04.199
I'm having beat at USC is twenty
twelve, so that that'll tell you that.

765
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.880
But they play they play him tough
all the time. I mean,

766
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.039
remember that game last year that was
a hard game for you. It was

767
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.159
that n LA that was a hard
game for USC to win. Arizona was

768
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.320
in it to the very end.
Yeah, you know. Yeah, So

769
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.760
I just think that, you know, there's a lot of games in there

770
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.679
that we're gonna walk into the state. I mean, you think you know

771
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.280
what's gonna happen, but you don't
know what's gonna happen. And there's gonna

772
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.639
be a whole bunch of those.
Yeah, a whole bunch of those.

773
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.239
Okay, Okay, we'll see and
I look forward to that tomorrow. We

774
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.800
should have a nice show the rest
of the week. It's kind of season

775
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:43.639
for us now right, and we're
in season, so we hope to get

776
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.119
some great guests some time to guests
actually talking football. Yeah, games and

777
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.159
you get players and you get happy
and giddy. Let's see if you can

778
00:52:52.199 --> 00:53:00.119
get more accurate. I should talk. You're paid from anthy I beat your

779
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:01.480
butt last year. I should.
It came down to the last game,

780
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.239
though, it was it was it
was all right, let's get the heck

781
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:07.159
out of here. We're gonna come
back. We'll see you tomorrow. Be

782
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:12.719
sure follow the podcast, catch us
uh whenever you can, and we'll be

783
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.920
back tomorrow and give us a call. Five two zero four one six seventy

784
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:15.840
four forty see you tomorrow.