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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
the Fire Escape Cast. I am Michael

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Rowayne Mahardy, your host is always
here with Dan Reiker. Yes, Hello,

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that's me Mary Cash. Are we
doing middle names? Is that what

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your thing was? Yeah? Do
you guys know my middle name? We

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talked about this, Rowayne, We
we've definitely covered this. Yeah, I

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don't remember it, but yes,
so you've told me at some point the

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middle name you would never expect someone
Sometimes it sneaks out. What would you

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think my middle name would be?
Starts than our? No, that is

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my middle name. I'm saying,
what would you think it would be if

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that was Wayne is? Yeah,
it's my mom's maiden name. Sturgil,

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Michael Sturgil, Mahardy, Shit,
no, I want that to be um.

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I was thinking would also start with
with an M because that would be

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cool. So like Michael May Magoo, Michael Magoo, Mahardy, Mikey Magoo,

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Yeah, Mikey too, Magoose Mahardy
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this a guess? I know Dan's
you do. We've we've we've actually talked

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about this entire thing on this We
show you are an old podcast word for

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word someday just went from like May
twenty twenty one, word for word,

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just like slot in different game name. We're losing material. It doesn't Maybe

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we should shut this down this episode
until we forget is it. Well,

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let me double check in that while
you guys keep talking the beginning of the

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end. My middle name is Elizabeth, Elizabeth Lizbeth and okay, most of

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the time my family would call me
Mary Beth because it sounds nicer. So

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it's episode forty nine. Sorry,
I did it again. Okay, Well,

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we got it. We got a
big We got a big extravaganza for

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fifty weeks planned that we get now
we know. Guess we've got Yeah,

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it's gonna be eight hours long.
We don't. I don't think we realized

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it was fifty coming in now we
do. Well, we frantically planned for

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it. We did our one year
was that last year? We like did

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a big hullabaloo for it. I
think we should plan another hullabaloo in the

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future. I am game for hullabaloo
anytime. Yeah, well we have.

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We'll do Game of the Year in
person next year, barring any crazy tornado

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that stops us from doing it.
Speaking of crazy tornado, we're not having

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tornadoes, but it did just crazy
like downpour snow for the last day,

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which is insane because it's late February
and it's been warm. Although in Portland

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we call that our February fake out
or it seems like summer is here and

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we've actually made it. But psych
usually we get second winner. But our

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second winner came really hard because it's
actually there's at least two feet of snow,

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which is nuts. It's rare up
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once every few years. Oh wow, we didn't get ship here. Really.

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I don't know if New Yorker is
the same or Hobo. We were

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like sweeting of it, yeah yeah, but I mean like in general this

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Oneter we didn't get shit. Oh
no, No, we got that one

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like Arctic front that made things freezing, but not much snow. Yeah.

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I'd rather get snow any day than
the cold. I do prefer snow than

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rain, and it is our rainy
season, so I agree with you.

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But it makes driving kind of ree
sky. But you know, I don't

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drive that much, so it's really
not that big of a deal. And

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we have a liquor store one block
from the house, so it's kind of

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nice to be like, you know, just just scooting my feets across the

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sidewalk ever so delicately to get to
the liquor store and stock up and get

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home. That's the solution, is
just never driving. I found that to

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be. It makes life a lot
easier for you. Yeah. Yeah,

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I mean we don't. We don't
drive much at all. Well, I

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guess it is. It depends for
mom not really gets fast food while he's

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playing video games live. Yeah,
I don't like I travel, Like I

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got travel coming up and stuff like
that, but like an average week,

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I'm not going anywhere. I'm here
twenty four seven. Pretty Oh yeah,

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that's what she was saying. Things
come to you mainly, but no also

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to have like items explain how the
aready. Not the case. Oh I

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see, Socially, things don't go
to you. No, no one's up

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here. I see what you mean. I took Mary was saying, like,

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you don't have to drive for work
too and from every day. Oh

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yeah, everything's in this room.
Everything I do is in this room.

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That's where I live. Yeah,
I don't. I haven't left the apartment

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much this week, which has been
nice because it's been shitty weather. It's

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nice weekend, though, I find
it, Like, how often do you

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go into the office these days?
Average once a week? Okay, that's

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a good cadence office. Yeah,
I would like that starts me when I

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go in like every usually going on
Wednesdays now, and it's a good hump

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day. Like all right, I
got over the beginning. Energize me for

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the home stretch to the weekend.
I'm not working for the weekend. I

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like Polygon, but weekends are still
nice. I'm only say this because I'm

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only saying this because like two of
my bosses listening to this fire Skate Chelsea

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Chris, if you're listening, I
love working for Polygon. I hate weekends.

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Yeah, he wishes he could work
on the weekends all the time.

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No, Polygon actually like actively brates
me when I don't take time off.

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It's not probably healthy. It is
healthy, um, mainly not the time

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off. I love being berated.
I'm such a little what's the word sub

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dude dominate me all day. Yeah, once a week I'm in the office.

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It's nice. It energizes me.
I miss it because like you look

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like you know our friendship and then
like all the friendships you know, like

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look at you know, Tim and
Hands and these guys have been friends with

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program. That's the thing. It
was all forged in, like the ability

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to like, oh okay, like, hey, you guys want to go

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get some lunch today, or this
new game came out. Let's all okay,

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we don't want to spoil it,
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We'll talk about this game for a
while. Water cooler talk, gossip,

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mutual hatred of somebody. Oh yeah, there was a lot of that

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going on. Yeah, I hate
most people, so that comes up a

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lot. Most of my friendships were
forged in dis Oh yeah, like this

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motherfucker. Well we all hate this
motherfucker. Okay, what's all hang out?

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We all agree? Uh yeah,
I think that that is true.

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I've lost that. I mean,
luckily, I've had so many wonderful friendships

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from those days that I can maintain
that. I feel pretty fulfilled. I

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don't feel like I need more friendships. In fact, just the other day,

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that's someone who like you know,
reached out of nowhere and was like,

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hey, we should like catch up. And I thought to myself,

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I'm all good, not because they're
not interesting or that I don't like you,

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it's nothing like that. I'm all
like I'm tapped on. I don't

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want any more social interactions. I
don't want to add to my calendar.

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H no, thank you. And
that's kind of a weird thing to think

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about, but I decided I didn't
want any more friends. Yeah, because

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at a certain point it can get
annoying if like enough people are getting a

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hold of you or texting you or
something like that. Like there's there's a

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sweet spot. I think you don't
want to be just like total Herman,

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not talking anyone, but you also
don't want to be like talking and good

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in text like all day, Like
I don't see people in person often anymore.

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But between like this is huge for
me. I love doing this with

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you guys, and then with Giant
Bomb everyone there is awesome, and then

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just the streams I do like I
feel like the social quota is being filled,

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plus just living with Bonk, and
like I it probably sounds sadder than

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it is because I don't feel like
depressed about it, but I mean,

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I really don't leave the house,
but I'm still talking to people all the

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fucking time all weeks, so it's
like, I don't know, I'd rather

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be around people i'd like to,
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like Hanson having a party in the
backyard where he's he's showing the rock on

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a projector screen. Everyone just sitting
aroun the backyard drinking beer. It's like,

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God, damn, I wish I
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used to a minute in Minnesota.
But you know, I'm not hurting too

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bad here. I think if it
wasn't for fire Escape, I agree,

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I would be more proactive about keeping
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But with fire Escape Plus, it's
funny. I've been thinking about this a

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lot. With like wedding guests,
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people I just that them. They
and I are bad at keeping up with

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each other, but I still love
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There are other people It's like,
we don't keep up. Is that because

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we're bad at keeping up or because
we don't need to They I don't need,

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No, they don't need to be
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So I've been thinking about that a
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like the same eight friends, I
consistently keep up with another thing is

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also that many of them keep up
through multiplayer games. I really don't play

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online games with most people, Like
games are mostly a solitary thing for me.

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So like all text I'll be talking
to Jake and then he'll be like,

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yeah, Pete was saying the other
night. I was like, I

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doesn't Pete catch up with me?
He's like, oh, no, we

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were playing like Rocket League or something
like. Yeah. See, I don't

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do that anymore. That's why I
don't. So then I have to catch

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up with them separately, which I
enjoy doing. But it is a very

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smaller and smaller group of people,
and the older I get. I don't

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know if it's an age thing or
just a comfort thing. I just don't,

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you know, Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't remember what

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age I was when I stopped like
feeling the need to keep up with everyone.

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But it was a while ago.
I just have not have friends for

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a while. Do you have any
friends that even if you're not looking at

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your phone, you can tell who
it is just by the cadence of the

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texting, like the vibrations. Yes, I don't accustom one. I mean

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just like, oh, this is
how this person texts. I have a

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person who always talks in threes,
and so if I get three buzzes in

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a row, I can almost instinctively
know who it is because they tend to

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tell me stories, not just like
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text. Um. I like when
somebody starts with like a you won't believe

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this shit, sure, and then
that's what happened. And so it's like

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these three buzzes of like story um. So I can tell when it's somebody

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like that. Um. Whereas like
I'm pretty close with my parents and they

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will very clearly like text me once
and just be like, haven't heard from

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you in like a few days,
and it's just like, I know that's

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my parents. I know it is. I can tell when it's just a

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one solitary buzz. The one I
can always tell is Boniello, because I

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don't know, this is just how
the kids today text. But it's not

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just one text. He'll have a
thought and he has to break it up

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into six different texts. He was
like, Dan, so send h.

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Yeah. It's always when I'm like
we were hurrying a bunch of shit,

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or like I've got both the dogs
on a leash and I'm like carrying something

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in from like the driveway or something, and I just like rampramm Bram's goddamn

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Boniellow. He's got a thought.
He's concentrating on something real deep. Here

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have the thought he broke into six
or six to eight things. It's the

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staccato rhythm. Yeah, I don't
I'm ship. My internet's unstable. As

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we're talking about communicating, can you
hear me? All right? Yeah,

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you're going I'm sick of this shit. Um yeah, I usually just send

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one. Mary knows it's me because
she gets a text and then looks over

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at her window and I'm standing there
staring into her house. Yeah. Yeah,

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so that's more of a just like
a it's more of a note that

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just kind of placed, you know, on the rain in the in the

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window. Yeah. I send her
like a gift with like a cross hairs

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on her face drawing radicals. Pin. He sends me a mat pin of

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my own house. I am here, this is Mike's location and pin drop.

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Oh my god, that's really good. I'm gonna do that. We

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should drive out for a Game of
the Year when we go to Portland.

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Well you, I mean let me
you should drive and I'll sit in the

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car, but we should drive the
whole cross country. Yeah, such an

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adventure. I went to Boston once
with Mike and he drove and it was

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nice. Yeah, it's the same
thing. Road road drip. No,

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it's not that's that would be fun
both the way. It's fine. We

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would hit Indiana and I'd be done
with you going from here. We reached

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like, I don't know, we
reached the Midwest and I can't take much

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more. How delay is this pretty
much to the Midwest? I could drive.

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I could do like never Aska,
Kansas type driving. I think you

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could do some simple flat drive in
um I drove when I'm moved from Ohio

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to San Francisco. I did that
trip via car and I loved it.

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I loved every minute of it.
It was really cool and I learned a

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lot about American landscapes that drew through
a lot of cool stuff. I did

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that from Minnesota to San Francisco.
I did, uh, did you do

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it like a three day thing?
Like? How long did it take you?

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From Ohio? I think I stretched
it because I wanted to see a

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couple of things. I wanted to
see the Grand Canyon, which checked me

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out of the way by Lake half
a day. Also, I wanted to

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see it, so I only drove
three hours that day so that I could

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enjoy the Grand Canyon for the rest
of the day. And I wanted to

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see the one the highway that goes
up across up the California Coast. Oh,

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the like Pacific Rim. What the
fuck is it called the Great American

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whatever? The Great American Rim?
Is that it? No? Um,

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I don't know what it's called.
Pacific Coast Highway is. Yeah, I

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think it's called That's why I said, and so, like I just came

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back. No, no, I
know, you just came back. I

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just said that, Mike. Uh
And if so, I wished the wause

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further than I needed to so that
I could go up the one UM on

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my way to San Francisco. And
that took an extra full day. So

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I think it ended up being five
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That is super fun though, because
like it's also like a transition period

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in your life where you get this
new job, you're moving to a new

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city. Like I did the same
thing. I did, not, Oh

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you okay, I drove on a
hope and a prayer and a contract for

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three Yeah. Yeah, boy,
I cannot fucking imagine that. That's stupid.

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I did three days from Minnesota and
I stopped and I spend a night

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in Deadwood. Um, because I
like the show a lot, so I

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went there and I gambled Kevin Costner's
casino. That's a cool idea. Yeah,

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that was fun. And it's like
the Black Forest, Black Black Hills,

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Black four or something or other.
Drove through Mount Rushmore, saw that

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for the first time, stayed in
Renoe. No. I stayed in Salt

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Lake City, which was boring.
Um, but that was just but it's

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still pretty. Yeah. Well the
stuff like the salt lakes, well,

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yeah, salt Lake City, there's
a salt lake. That stuff looked really

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pretty. And then going through the
bad Lands and everything through and then I

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stayed in Reno and then when San
Francisco from there. But the thing I

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used to be able to do that
shit I used to. I drove from

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Minnesota in New Orleans and or Minnesota
to San Francisco, Like I can do

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it. I should. I like
that for you. I think it was

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now it's crazy to think about.
It's like three years ago. I drove

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from Portland to um Colorado because I
wanted to see Denver and I wanted to

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see Colorado Springs and do a road
trip out there. And I just thought,

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oh, we'll just drive it.
I want to say, it's eighteen

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hours, so whether or not that's
a two day like rough two rough full

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days or three days days or on
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did it, I just was feeling
crazy. I so the way there was

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all planned with three like Airbnb stops, so I knew how far to go,

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right. I knew I was going
to drive seven hours and then stop

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in you know, Boisy or whatever, and then on the way home and

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have nothing books. And I thought, when I'm tired, I will pull

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over into some motel and I will
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didn't really want to pull over.
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a more hour. By the time
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sixteen. It was like three hours
left. It was so close, and

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so I just kind of like tuned
it all the way there. Oh my

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god, that would just kind of
shit. I mean, driving that tired

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I was not a good driver at
the end. I will admit that mentioned

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Airbnb and remind me. So,
my dad's sixtieth birthday is coming up in

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a few months, and so you
know, I want to do something special

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with him, and it's always been
a lifelong goal is to see a game

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at Fenway Park and Boston Red Sox
game. And so it's like, well,

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shit, I can get up there
pretty easily, and you know we're

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gonna spend it together anyway, So
I'm gonna take a train up there,

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and you know, it's his birthday. So I was like booking the hotel

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and and all that. I was
just setting up the whole trip and everything,

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and you know, I'm I got
the tickets and all that stuff.

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But we're gonna split the hotel.
And I was like, all right,

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so I'll find something downtown, something
so we can walk, we don't have

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to uber everywhere or whatever. And
he's like, all right, well,

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um, find a hotel that's less
than one hundred and fifty dollars a night

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maximum. And I was like,
that's hard to do. I'm not that's

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downtown Boston is not gonna have a
sure it is. I mean like I've

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never stayed in a hotel that's more
than seventy dollars a night. Dad,

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I don't know if this is the
seventy shit hauling murdered exactly because Okay,

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for my fucking wedding, Mike,
you remember this, he was everyone stayed

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at that hotel in Jersey. We
add the block of rooms and stuff like

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that. He wanted to save like
twenty bucks, so we stayed at this

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fucking highwayside shit ass motel that was
like far away, and he was like

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texting me from He's like, this
feels legitimately dangerous. Thin I'm gonna get

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stabbed in the parking lot. And
then he has to take like a thirty

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dollars uber to get to the thing, which immediately negates anything he's saving.

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But he just refuses to like stay
where anyone's staying or spent more than seventy

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dollars a night. It's like,
I don't know how you expect this to

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work at all. Though. Yeah, if you talked to Jake about Pax

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East a couple a few years ago, he that was when we drove to

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Paxis Believe no, they might have
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he was with someone who was saying
that they knew Boston super well. And

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then is this somebody that that's spent
some time in New York Yeah, okay,

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then New Yorker okay, And they
were saying like, oh, yeah,

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no, I know, I know
city, I know exactly where we're

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going. And then they went like
an hour outside of the city to like

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twenty three forty five Handover Street instead
of Handover EV. And they get there

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and Jake, Jake nicest dude ever, is like, dude, what the

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fuck are we doing here? That
might I'm trying to think if that was

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the year when you and I drove
there, because you and I drove there,

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that would have been twenty nineteen.
Maybe I think this was before that.

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Yeah, yeah, that was twenty
nine. That was like near the

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end of my first Giant Bomb run
where you you and I win. Okay,

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so they are separate trips. But
yeah, I don't know where you

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would find a hotel for seventy dollars
in downtown Boston. Absolutely not. Well,

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just the logic of like you can
bring up the fact they're like,

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okay, yes, dad, I
can maybe find a super shitty dangerous hotel

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that is forty five minutes away from
Finnway Park or something. But and he's

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like, well, it's fine.
It's just like it's like the weird principle

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of like can you just lie and
say, um, like morally, can

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you just can you just come to
terms with it and be like I found

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one, give me seventy five dollars
and then just cover the other two hundred

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and just you know, just eat
it. If it got to that.

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It definitely that was what I was
going to do. But eventually he's like,

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no, I'll do it, but
I'm not happy about this. Like

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the cheapest hotel in Boss He's like, hmm, I don't approve of this.

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I wouldn't personally feel comfortable staying in
a hotel like that because like it

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can get pretty risky in just the
areas outside of your room, and I

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don't know that every Game Informer hotel
for my safety, we had such shitty

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like at one point they for Game
Informer, the whole staff they set up

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like really far from the convention center
and it's like bad part of town.

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There was black mold in the bathrooms, there were cockroaches in the rooms,

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and there were people. We all
we always had to share rooms, like

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whenever we traveled with game informers,
so we'd always have a roommate that we

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had to stay with, and it
was it was the only time where we

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just had to be like, Okay, this is not this is not healthy

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for us to be like covering the
show for a week and this extremely dangerous

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circumstances, like there's literal black mold
and we had like send pictures and stuff.

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Oh my god, that shit sucked. There's so much like cost savings

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associated with that. I've been at
Twitch long enough to know that originally when

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we started, room sharing was also
required, and that's no longer the case.

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But if people had to, like, you know, like there was

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a there was a whole like stink
raised about it because it was just like

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I don't want to share a room. And there was this um one kind

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of iconic person who stork at Twitch
that was a bit of a bit of

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a partier. That's what he did. He would go out and he would

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hang out with creators and then he
would come back at like four or five

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in the morning and then like slink
into the rooms. Whoever had to like

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room with this person was like,
oh, so unfair. I got the

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party guy, and so we'd all
like just be like, don't give me

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the party guy because I don't want
to deal with it. And I was

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lucky because they wouldn't put a boy
with a girl so I could get away

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with it. So I would always
either yeah, I would always have like

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a normal roommate. But it's just
this one. You know, it's like

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a wild card because if you if
you got this person as your roommate,

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you knew you were in trouble.
Like he was going to come in at

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weird hours of the night, he
was going to ask you for weird stuff,

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or like come in and you know, start eating a cheeseburger and put

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on TV without thinking about you.
You know, just like stuff like that.

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Certain roommates you walk in and they
might have invited other people into the

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room for certain things and not locked
the door. That stuff has happened,

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for sure. Yeah, Jesus Christ, I'm but yeah, I don't know

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if this is more of a thing
company like in terms of companies these days,

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but the room sharing I hear about
less. I remember back in CBS

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Interactive, like me and Benny like
room together for two weeks during a Game

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of the Year, you know time. I hope Benny doesn't hate me.

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At the end of like two weeks
of like being in this tiny hotel room

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together, you've probably learned a lot
about you. But I feel like,

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yeah, I remember having a lot
of good heart darts with the Gunny.

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I like talking about our families and
our uprings and stuff. And actually we

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didn't have a lot of really heart
to heart time. There was a couple

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of girls at Twitch when we would
room together that I remember being kind of

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it was like the one time where
I was like, this is really cool

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and we would watch Golden Girls as
we all like zend out to go to

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sleep, and someone would always bring
a weed pen, no matter how dangerous

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it was, so it's just like
this, like this like sacred bond or

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it was like, well, I
have a weed pen and we're gonna we're

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gonna watch Golden Girls and we'll just
do that for the next three hours and

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we'll wake up at five in the
morning. It was a Pax West years

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ago. I think Bonk and I
just kind of started dating and she came

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out there and at one point I
was taking an appointment somewhere, and she

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was back in the hotel, like
she was like laying in bed, and

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they had checked some dude in to
the same room, like they didn't realize

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we were in there, and so
they're like, here's your keys or there

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in your room is whatever, and
so Bonk was just laying in bed and

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like another covers and then some dude
just walks in the room and she's like,

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uh, like what the fuck?
And so what I heard about this,

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I got ahold of the like the
management and stuff like that. I

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was like, this is not acceptable
at all. What the fuck? I

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mean, they're so lucky she wasn't
like getting changed or like in a compromising

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position. I would have freaked.
I would have called the police. Yeah,

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it was. I gave us a
bunch of like credit for anything in

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the hotel, and so it's like
we had like a day left or something,

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and so we just had to spend
this credit. So she had never

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played Link to the Past, and
I think I brought like a Super Nintendo

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Mini or something. So we just
got beer played she was playing Link to

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the Past, and I had like
eighty dollars worth the credit, and I

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just bought I spent it all on
Buffalo Wing room service, like a giant

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fucking box. We're just sitting in
bed, playing links with the past,

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eating a million Buffalo wings, and
drinking beer. Because some dude walked in

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on her. It's the best way
you could make up for it. Possibly.

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I think one of the worst stories
I ever heard um wash Day nine,

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who's a streamer and like a friend
from twitch and he's a host,

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and he was on a show and
he came back and they thought that they

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got confused and they thought he had
checked out, and all his stuff was

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there, and they like cleaned it
up and removed all his stuff, and

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he had like they just like put
it in like some of it they threw

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away and some of they put in
storage. And he had like cash on

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the counter and the cleaners thought it
was for them because they thought he had

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left, and so they took it
and it was just this huge like kurfuffle

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or it was just like, you
can't just assume these things. If his

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entire luggage is here, something's wrong. And they just like I've never heard

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of all their ship. Guess they
got kidnapped or something. They basically were

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like, well, I guess he
left everything. Jesus Christ, I remember

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that. Do you guys remember that
E three We're Giant Bomb had all their

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stuff stolen from from the studio the
E three like it was a skid row

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blaze, but all the cameras,
everything at storm. Everybody was on the

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show floor and somebody just came by
and just cleaned them out, all these

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expensive ass cameras and everything. That's
like supers sad to hear. I remember

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like right as I started working at
game Spot, IGN got robbed under a

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bridge. No, people on a
shoot under a bridge in San Francisco got

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like held up. I do not
think it was like guns. I think

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it was serious intimidation where they were
like the Miller wasn't there. Miller would

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have kick their asses. He's a
wrestler. Hell yeah, dude, Miller.

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You think Miller's flexing everyone into the
fucking bay. You think Miller's never

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never been in a bridge fight,
Get out of here. Miller lives for

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bridge fights. I think Greg Miller
could easily kick my ass. That's a

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really good question. You know they're
talking about all those creator clashes. Do

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you think he would fight Miller in
a creator clash? What are what are

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the rules of a creator clash.
It's a boxing match. It's legit,

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like you have there's a there's a
person who watches what are they called judicators,

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and you wear boxing gloves and it's
traditional boxing rules, so you can't

407
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.359
like, I don't think you put
people in a chokehold or anything. It's

408
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.039
just straight boxing, hunting and after
I think five rooms rounds. Uh,

409
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:22.160
it's either a knockout or it's by
decision of judges. I don't think I

410
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.920
could beat Miller. I'm trying to
think of of people we know and people

411
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.599
in gaming that I think I could
handily beat as someone who's never been in

412
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.880
a fight in my life. Uh, let's see the short Hanson Ben Hanson,

413
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.480
I could. I think I could
beat up Ben Hanson. Um Let

414
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.680
Ben Hanson in a fight. Would
be like a praying mantis with no arms.

415
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.839
It's like Woody from toy Store,
just like flailing around. Yeah that's

416
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:53.039
good too, yeah yeah yeah,
with a huge stick and it can't get

417
00:27:53.039 --> 00:28:00.839
through a doorway. Ben, they're
calling you a dog with a stick in

418
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.960
your mouth trying to get through a
doorway. I can't think of any other

419
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.480
like big games media folks that I
think I could handily beating them, but

420
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:14.039
definitely not Mike, not you Mary, Like, no way, I think

421
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.119
that in a fight doesn't mean well, I don't know. I think I

422
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.200
would take my ass. Well,
you have longer reach than I do,

423
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:23.559
your arms are longer. Yeah,
but everything hurts. Yeah, I'd go

424
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.920
for the belly. I'd try and
take you down from below padding there.

425
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.279
That's the worst place you can up. Just give me some much there and

426
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.640
they're old shatter, I just like
start throwing pez at you and you can't

427
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.279
help it but catch them and then
you're like, ohh, I'll I quit.

428
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:42.920
That's good. Just throwing laffy taffy's
on the floor, whoa piece of

429
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.440
candy? And then I just bop
you on the head worked pretty well.

430
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.440
Yeah. I feel like I would
just roadrunner you, you know, like

431
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.680
I'd have like all this like stuff
in a box and then i'd be behind

432
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.880
it with a rope and when you
get under their pullet, I wouldn't suspect

433
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.839
it at all. I'd just like
fresh, freshly made hot pocket. Oh

434
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:06.440
nice kind of fight scheduled with Mary, I would just kill her the night

435
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:12.119
before like sleep Oh yeah, okay, make it easy. Yeah, did

436
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.519
not stipulate that I can't kill you
while you sleep. No, I don't

437
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.000
know if my couchs a win for
the fight. If you kill her before

438
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.160
the fight all weekend, that burnies
her and bring her to the fight and

439
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.039
then just throw her on the scale. Just let her hit me a few

440
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.359
times with her dead limbs. She
got me. She's so strong, elaborate

441
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:37.880
system of levers and pulleys. Its
operating the mute at the same time you're

442
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.039
boxing. It's weird. Every time
his right arm moves, her left arm

443
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.720
moves, it's crazy. They're so
in tune. Also, every time you

444
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:52.200
like put on a special song,
I just kind of get back ups.

445
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.119
I bet Drew Scanlon would kick ass. What don't you think Drew Scanlon could

446
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:02.759
kick ass? Oh? Absolutely?
That man is a force. He eats

447
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.799
really well, he exercises, He
takes care of himself. I don't think

448
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.119
that I am familiar with his punching
skills, but I know that he bikes

449
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:17.839
across the United States. Yeah,
for charity. So I would suspect he's

450
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:23.200
very strong um and would would out
would out box most of us quietly and

451
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.279
efficiently. He's not a mean person
or a violent person. I think he

452
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.519
would just just very as nicely as
you can, just beat the shit out

453
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.400
of you. It would have to
be for charity. I just don't think

454
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.759
he has it in him. I
don't think he would kill for anything else

455
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.240
besides good. Well, well,
anytime you get in the ring about boxing,

456
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.839
you could kill the other person,
not accident. I've seen a Million

457
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:56.039
Dollar Baby. Isn't the same movie. Both finish each other's sandwiches, But

458
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.799
like I fucking assumed it was Million
Dollar Baby. I've not seen that.

459
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.279
Well, it's a very good film, but I've spoiled it for you now.

460
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.000
I heard about the spoiler. I
know about the dying. Yeah,

461
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.839
it's kind of the main thing.
But that that got spoiled all over the

462
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:17.079
place when it first came out.
That was immediate, it was, I

463
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.559
think so. And that was even
like that was like early two thousands,

464
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.240
right, That wasn't like full on
social media spoilership everywhere, Like I remember

465
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.599
that getting spoiled pretty quick. Oh
that's a shame. It's pretty good.

466
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.640
I saw a movie, um that
I don't know if we we've discussed,

467
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.160
but I wanted to bring it up
in case you haven't, which was the

468
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.519
Banshees of inn Is Sharon. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.

469
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.920
I okay, brand was awesome.
It's the it's like the spiritual sequel

470
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.640
to U in Bruges. Okay,
different. This is the Irish thing,

471
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:53.160
right, Brendan Gleeson. Right,
It's filled with Irish humor, like the

472
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:57.039
kind of humor were like a lot
of regular people will watch this and be

473
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.480
like, this isn't funny, it's
really sad. And I was laughing the

474
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.960
whole time. Also before people sending
corrections, I fucked up. It's Martin

475
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.880
McDonough's a director. Kenneth Brana did
Belfast. Martin mcdonah didn't bruision this.

476
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:20.480
Okay. What's the name is the
banshees of Initiarin Initiaran? It looks like

477
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.839
almost okay, isn't that an anime? Any any Yosha is a different thing

478
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.359
different, it's any Yosha's pretty good
though I've heard that people. It's really

479
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.200
good. It's like filled with delightful
banter about people who don't get along and

480
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.039
how they deal with it when you
don't like someone in whether or not you

481
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.400
tell them and stuff. And I
think that's it's just a really good commentary

482
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.039
on like how you deal with social
situations, and some people are like,

483
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.240
I just hide when I see this
person. And some people are like,

484
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.720
I hate your guts, I hate
your face, I hate when you fucking

485
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.440
talk to me. I don't want
everyone to know. I feel like I

486
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.240
like that Brendan Gleason guy and things
I've seen him in. Let's check that

487
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.839
out. I think he hosted Esnell
around the time that came out. It

488
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:13.039
took me a while to connect Brendan
Gleason as being Dominall Gleason's dad. Dominall

489
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.839
Gleason is the redhead from X Machina
Star Wars, the new Star Wars movie.

490
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.720
That's his? Okay, mad Eye
Moody is Dominall Gleason's dad, or

491
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.279
is the guy from X Mochina's dad? Dude? You mentioned X mochin now

492
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.759
we okay? Have you guys seen
Annihilation? Alex Garland? Are you fucking

493
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.200
with me? I feel like I
know you've seen it? Yeah, my

494
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:38.319
top three movies at all time?
I don't think so. So we came

495
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.480
out it was Natalie Portman, It's
Alex Garland, Tessa Thompson, great Cast,

496
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:45.200
Bonk, and I saw in the
theaters when it came out, and

497
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.119
we were both like, yeah,
that was good, that was well made,

498
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.519
that was you know. I think
we both like, you know,

499
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.559
four stars on letter box, four
out of five, you know, like

500
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.960
we liked it for sure, but
we just decided to watch it again at

501
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.880
just I got the four K and
like, let's check it out, and

502
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.599
holy shit, if it's not like
both of us, I think upon second

503
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.640
viewing, I don't know why it
hit us both so much harder, but

504
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.719
we're both like, yeah, that's
like five stars. That is like one

505
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:10.440
of the best sci fi movies we've
ever fucking seen. I have seen this.

506
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.840
It's based off of a book.
Yeah, yeah, Jeff vander Meer's

507
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.000
Southern Reach trilogy. It's so good. It reminded me almost like two thousand

508
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.599
and one of Space out of Sea. Yeah. Skobrick or Tarkovsky, the

509
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.760
Russian director who did Stalker. Annihilation
is large. Southern Reach trilogy is largely

510
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.360
based off or inspired by Stalker.
It's about people going into this like Thermo

511
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.960
nuclear zone in Russia, where like
the laws of physics of stop working.

512
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.599
Oh cool, Okay, yeah,
I think Bonk mentioned that. Yeah,

513
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.320
I think the reason we didn't watch
that because Bonk brought it up, was

514
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.519
I thought, isn't there some boring
game about Stalker or it's called Stalker.

515
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.440
There was the PC nineties shooter,
but there remain it's very soviet. Is

516
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.599
that the same thing? Yeah,
They're Stalker is yeah, loosely based off

517
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.800
of the movie Stalker, which is
based off the book Roadside Nick. Yeah,

518
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.840
okay, yeah, because I was
just picturing like Metro twenty twenty three.

519
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.440
I just find that whole setting and
like unbelievably boring, just that like

520
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.679
that type of future apocalypse which is
like, oh, we wear a gas

521
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.760
mask and it's snowy, Like I
think that's super boring. Um, but

522
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.920
fucking Annihilation just the all the sound
and music in the last like thirty minutes

523
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.360
in particular, and everything about that
concept and Oscar Isaac's fucking creepy in it

524
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:28.039
and weird and we we were blown
up. I've been thinking about it since

525
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.480
we watched it like a week ago, like that's it's one of my favorite

526
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.480
movies. Now. It's so fun. Oh yeah, it's incredible, Like

527
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.559
it doesn't it doesn't feel the need
to explain each and everything in the plot

528
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.599
half the time you come away from
the movie like more confused than last time.

529
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.480
It's incredible. Also, the soundtrack
is like half those weird Ethereal alien

530
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.559
noises and half Crosby stills in Nash. Yeah it's weird clash. Yeah,

531
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.920
it's awesome. Yeah, we read
that Originally, the like the guys financing

532
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.840
it or whatever, they saw the
first cut and they were like, Oh,

533
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.519
this is too intellectual, this is
too complex. We need you to

534
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.320
like basically make it more palatable to
the masses or whatever. And they had

535
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.960
final cut. The director and the
producer didn't, so they were able to

536
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.320
say like, nah, fuck,
you were keeping it this way, Like

537
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.320
what that's such a ballsy thing because
you know, like it could hurt the

538
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.639
box office, but also it's going
to give it such a longer tail and

539
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.320
probably be seeing as a classic if
they're confident enough in being as good as

540
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.119
it is, which I don't know
why it hits so much harder this time.

541
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.039
Like have you ever had that where
you see a movie that you've seen

542
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.159
before and it's just like you liked
it way more than the first time.

543
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:37.599
Yes, I felt that way with
Apocalypse now. Yes, I remember my

544
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.280
dad loved Apocalypse Now. I was
like, you have to see this movie,

545
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.639
Mary, It's gonna change your life. And I watched it and I

546
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.800
was like, this movie's weird.
Everyone's crazy, they're mad, it's war,

547
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.320
it's really stressful, and I don't
like it. And then I think

548
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.320
at some point, probably like way
later in life in college, I was

549
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.719
like, I'm gonna watch this again
with my friends, and I was like,

550
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.840
this movie's genius. It's brilliant horror, but it's not. It's not

551
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.480
intending to me, But then it
is, And that's a huge commentary about

552
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.320
the whole thing, the psychological stuff
that's going on the whole time. I

553
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.800
actually now I think Apocalypse Now is
one of my favorite films of all time.

554
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.559
But I had no appreciation for it
when I first saw it because I

555
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.920
just didn't understand why it was so
so upsetting to watch it. Turns out

556
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.159
I love watching upsetting films Now.
I wonder if it's just like an age

557
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.280
thing, because like, yeah,
I watched Pocalypse Now for the first time

558
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.480
in high school when I was just
trying to, you know, a young

559
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.559
film doors like I gotta take in
all the classics, and I watched,

560
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.960
oh, this is a you know, Copple, I gotta watch this.

561
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.159
And I don't know if I was
just distracted or just didn't have enough,

562
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.679
Like it's not life experience because it's
not like between high school and now.

563
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.440
I've like been in Nam like,
so I don't know why. I like,

564
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.599
you know, you really don't appreciate
war films unless you've been to Nam.

565
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:52.920
But Block and I watched that a
few years ago. I was like,

566
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.280
oh, this might be the best
movie we've ever seen ever, Like,

567
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.519
m is it just age? Like
anyway? Is it like Bruce Springsteen

568
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.039
where you here like as a kid
and you're like this is Boringston and then

569
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.320
you get older and like, oh, this is this is some real shit

570
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:08.159
here, this is great, this
is some real shit like what I think?

571
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.639
No, I think it's just like
the like with age, you start

572
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.400
seeing more and more and you see
shitty movies and you see good movies and

573
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.360
you realize like what's just homage and
what's cliche and what's not? And then

574
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.880
Apocalypse now, in my opinion,
is very much its own thing. It's

575
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.679
original, I don't I mean,
obviously it's everything's iterative, But I don't

576
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.239
know Apocalypse. I find I had
the same thing. I watched it when

577
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.920
I was maybe twenty. I was
like, ah, I don't get why.

578
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:42.559
That's like, this dude tortured this
this machine had a heart attack.

579
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.320
Yeah, like most people on the
boat are so bummed out. Im was

580
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.760
fine. It worked out all right, right from my understand got through it.

581
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:57.280
I don't know. I'll look into
that more. But no black movies,

582
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.000
fucking ever. It's just pure psychological
horror in the horrors of war and

583
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.199
man, and like, oh my
god, it's awesome. Have you seen

584
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.559
Heart of Darkness? The Francis Ford
Coppola's wife Sophia the documentary. Yeah,

585
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.360
yeah, we watched the documentary.
Yeah yeah, I like that a lot.

586
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.360
Wait, Sophia is his daughter,
right, Sophia's the daughter from Godfather

587
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.239
three. I forget his wife's name, and then Nicholas Gage is the nephew,

588
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.039
and then his wife did the documentary. But the documentary, he's like,

589
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.679
oh my god, everybody who made
that movie almost died of like just

590
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.440
high blood pressure by the end.
Here he's making a new one now,

591
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.800
and it's like, so I'm hearing
that, it's like a hell shoot again.

592
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.119
And I guess just the thing with
him is like the more hell the

593
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.679
actual shoot is in the making of
it. It turns out those are like

594
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.320
the all time classics, and so
I guess it's just a shit show.

595
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.920
Right now, there's a shining megal
Yeah, yeah, shining totally. Megalopolis

596
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.320
is what this one's called. I
don't really know what it's about. Necessarily,

597
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.320
I remember looking at the cast and
be like, oh, that's interesting.

598
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.199
Um, it's a David Cronenberg did
the original Megalopolis? Is that the

599
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.679
same thing? Oh? I don't
know, No, wait, Cronenberg did,

600
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.880
Uh the Robert Pattinson movie. Was
that megalop Us? I don't know,

601
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:06.360
I might be confusing him. Let
me google it. I do want

602
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.400
to see is in the guy that
did Parasites' new movie? Right? They

603
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.239
put out a teaser of like it's
like, yeah, Bong Juno, Yeah,

604
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.960
it's like a sci fi movie with
Robert Pattinson and Bong Juno. Like

605
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:20.320
that sounds awesome. That does sound
good. I'm thinking of Cosmopolis. Sorry,

606
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.519
Nagolopolis is not, okay, same
thing whatsoever. Yeah, I'm glad

607
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.679
you like Annihilation now, I fucking
adore that. But it's it might it's

608
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.400
top three legitimately for me. So
I remember I have seen it and I

609
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.880
did it like it. So because
of this conversation, I'm going to watch

610
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.360
it again because I would recommend it. Yeah, I thought it was too

611
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.960
obtuse, and I thought that it
was trying to be smarter than it was

612
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.000
because it wasn't explaining anything, which
is something movies do, and they're like,

613
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.920
we don't know what's going you know. It's kind of the inception problem,

614
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.199
where like inceptions like who knows how
it works? Guys, just enjoy

615
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.639
the ride, and when you think
about it, you're like, wait a

616
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.079
second, you didn't explain and shit, like you have to like work this

617
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.559
out. Well. I remember feeling
that when I left Annihilation the first time.

618
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.000
It's saying like, well, that
was obviously extremely well made, but

619
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.719
I don't know what the fuck happened
in that movie and then and it's not

620
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.880
that I remembered it or anything,
because I don't forget things immediately. This

621
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.440
is basically the first time I saw
it again. But I just wasn't confused

622
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.800
this time. I don't know why. I was just like, oh,

623
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.719
I understand what's going on here.
I understand what's going on in the shimmer

624
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.800
and like the end made sense to
me and everything. It all just kind

625
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.320
of clicked this time. So I
definitely recommend a second watch on it.

626
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.280
Got the fucking just the blend of
this weird like Last of Us style wilderness

627
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.280
overriding everything. Can you still hear
me? I gotta I'll figure this out

628
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.280
on the break, my internet coming
in and out. Yeah, but like

629
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:49.360
the blend of that kind of Last
of Us wilderness overtaking civilization meets sci fi

630
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.920
meets horror meets like this military investigation
thing. It blends these like four genres

631
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.079
in such an incredible way. And
then also all of a sudden, you

632
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:04.119
it's one jump cut and then Natalie
Portman's like, how long have we been

633
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.159
in the Shimmer? They're like like
a month and a half. She's it

634
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.360
makes you so unsettled, it's incredible. Yeah, Well, just the idea

635
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.159
of like just this isn't a big
spoiler or anything, but just like the

636
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:20.559
idea of DNA and like cells just
all kind of mixing from plants and peoples.

637
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.400
Yeah, all within this thing.
It's just like, oh my,

638
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.800
it's fucking tear. Like the Bearer
thing is one of the creepiest fucking things.

639
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.719
I've ever seen in a movie like, oh man, it's so good.

640
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.280
All Right, the next time we
record, I will have watched Annihilation

641
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.360
a second time, and I will
let you know if I like it now.

642
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.679
Yes, I remember not hating it. I remember not liking it.

643
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.280
That was my immediate reaction. I'd
be very curious because yeah, Bonk and

644
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.760
I both had like major levels up
in our appreciation of it. Wow,

645
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.760
would you say it's as big of
a shift as it was from like some

646
00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:01.920
of your giant video game mood shifts
like a death stranding, Yeah, like

647
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:08.239
a death stranding mood shift. Death
stranding I like a lot. I really

648
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.880
appreciate death stranding. I definitely don't
like death stranding the way I like like

649
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.199
a Metal Gear or anything. Because
like death stranding, for as much as

650
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.079
I did grow to enjoy the gameplay
of it, that story is still total

651
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.519
horseshit. I'm glad it's horseshit.
It's Kajima ask Kajima, which is always

652
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.159
at least interesting to me. But
it's not a well told story. I

653
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.079
don't think it's a particularly good one. Whereas like Metal Gear, I think

654
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:31.719
the gameplay was good, the story
was good, it was ridiculous and horseship,

655
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:35.400
but it all kind of like made
sense in some fucking weird ass metal

656
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.719
gear way. So that's to say
that I don't Maybe I do love DEAs

657
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.440
Stranding, but it's not like an
all time favorite for me. Versus Annihilation

658
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.760
went from like that was a good
movie to oh, that might be one

659
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.840
of the best movies I've seen.
So there's something about that structure. A

660
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.960
movie like Apocalypse Now and Annihilation and
two thousand and one all have the same

661
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.679
general structure of this team of explorers, or at least like, maybe not

662
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.679
in two thousand and one as much, but like going into this unknown zone,

663
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.280
Stalker is one of my favorite movies. There's something very compelling about that

664
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.320
that allows the filmmakers to not have
to explain everything, because like, half

665
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.840
to the mystery and intensity of watching
it is not knowing what the fuck kind

666
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.360
of like laws of physics and chemistry
and biology you're going to be going on

667
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.079
in there. Yeah, well,
Apocalypse Now it's more just like going into

668
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:30.119
insanity as like this stand in for
the Vietnam War. But yeah, I

669
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.960
like that kind of movie a lot. All right, do you guys want

670
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.639
to talk about video games? Oh
sure. Yeah. But first Dan,

671
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.719
Mary, I've been telling both of
you how much I've loved wine in the

672
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.800
last decade now ish, and I've
been trying to get you guys into it.

673
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.880
Dan, you've been coming around.
Mary, you are slowly coming around.

674
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.239
It hasn't completely worked, but I
have good news. I have something

675
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.440
that might help even more. It's
called First Leaf, and we've been trying

676
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.440
it out. Dan, what do
you think about First Leaf? I love

677
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.239
it as I have been loving my
wine experimentation for the last few months.

678
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.039
But when I go to the store, I don't know what the hell I'm

679
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.000
looking for. I don't know what's
good, I don't know what's bad.

680
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.199
That it's very intimidating. So firstly, through their site, you basically say

681
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.280
like, oh yeah, I like
the taste of almonds, Oh I like

682
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.880
this, I like citrusy things.
I don't like this, And then the

683
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.280
algorithm or whatever magic wine magic they're
doing there, sends you a bunch of

684
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.280
wines in the mail. And I'm
having the second of the bottles here tonight

685
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.280
and loving it. So this is
something I can't wait to keep getting boxes

686
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.320
up in the mail. Yeah,
Mary, you got some Rose's and whites.

687
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.880
They just basically say, like,
do you like oak, oaky kind

688
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.519
of stuff? Do you like earthy? Do you like mineral? Do you

689
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.280
like citrus? And you've got a
bunch of Rose's. How's it been going

690
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.079
so far? That's right, I'm
that bitch. I like rose and I

691
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:47.039
think it's fun that the online markets
do not judge. These are nice wines.

692
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.199
These are not like wines that I
would probably accidentally pick in a supermarket

693
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.000
because I don't know any better.
These are more curated for me, and

694
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.400
I've enjoyed everything I've gotten so far, so I'm actually feel like I'm growing

695
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.360
a little bit with my taste.
I might be catching up to Dan's level

696
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.199
of wine not knowledge. Yeah,
well we have flashcards now too. I

697
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.719
know the one I'm drinking now has
notes of plum fig and violet. Because

698
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.760
of these andy flashcards here, I'm
learning. Yeah, and you get first

699
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every month, or you could double it

700
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each, and you just basically give a

701
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thumbs up or thumbs down to every
wine each month and that will help them

702
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curate your next month. And you
also get discounts if you rate each of

703
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your wines every month, so there's
a lot of incentives. I absolutely adore

704
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it as someone who knows wine fairly
well. Just the hobbyists Somalia, I

705
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would say, intimately yeah, And
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706
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713
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for being able to spell that properly. We don't have any games to talk

714
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:23.199
about this week. I'm a bit
worried. No, February has been dead.

715
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:29.840
February has been shit games. I
haven't touched that I really want to

716
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.800
at this point. There's totally sounds
twenty five games in my backlog. I

717
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.679
don't We've talked about this briefly,
I think on a previous episode but I

718
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.280
don't get bothered by my backlog anymore. Games come and go and they pass

719
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.320
me, and I'm like, I'm
fine. I don't need to fucking play

720
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.639
Metal Hell Singer much more like I
don't need to touch Cadence of High Rule

721
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.960
past what I've already done. I'm
just naming Rhythm games. I don't really

722
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:57.440
like him. But um, lately
I've really been feeling it because I'm you

723
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.599
know, Polygon and Giant Bomb and
Twitch, like you see these games or

724
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.000
you're helping cover them, and I'm
getting really backed up and all of them

725
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:09.239
sound awesome, uh something that we
can't talk about yet. But PSBR two,

726
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.960
God, yeah, that's the thing. It's like I've been so bogged

727
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.199
down with the last few weeks.
You know, we'll talk about it,

728
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.039
but like A Dragon and PSBR two, I've covered both of those for Giant

729
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.000
Bombs, so I've been like,
do you neck deep in that stuff for

730
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.760
the last few weeks. And it's
like a fucking Metroid Prime remaster came out.

731
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.920
That's a fucking incredible game, one
of my favorites ever, and I

732
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.840
have not touched it yet, and
it's like that's insane to me, Like

733
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.039
I hope by the time Zelda comes
out that I've kind of cleared cleared the

734
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.159
path a little bit, because hopefully
it's a little less crazy the next few

735
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.880
months. But it's so we're recording
this on Wednesday the twenty second, so

736
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.000
literally in like an hour, Sons
of the Forest goes live, the sequel

737
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:52.480
to the Forest from fifteen sixteen,
that Survival Games survival thing. Yeah.

738
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.840
Yeah, Jake, who's listening,
is probably already been Actually he's probably played

739
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.800
a lot of it by this point
when he's editing this, but he,

740
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.239
he and Matt Paget, a bunch
of people like GameSpot played a lot of

741
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.840
it, so I know they're excited
about the sequel, Destiny Lightfall. I

742
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.639
don't play Destiny anymore, but that's
going to be a long tail game.

743
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.000
Kurbal Space Program two is officially out. Now. I was never a Kurbal

744
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:20.480
person, but I know, like
Vinny Caravella is an obsessive So there's still

745
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:25.119
a lot of like long tail games
going up to Resival four remake. What

746
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.400
else is in March Skull and Bones
got delayed once again coming out. Yeah,

747
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:37.599
it's going to suck, probably,
but yeah, so Dan, we

748
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.039
might as well. Start with PSVR
two. You and I both have covered

749
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.559
it for work you talked about in
the Bomb cast. If you want to

750
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.039
go here, Dan, do that
on Giant Bomb. You can go listen

751
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.760
to that. I wrote the review
for Polygon. Go read that, and

752
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:53.639
it was weird because a week ago
during the pre release period, when I

753
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.800
was getting ready to put the review
up, I'm like, this thing is

754
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.920
super It's literally behind me. I
did not do that for this. It's

755
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.679
just where I'm getting it out of
the way. It's super comfortable. A

756
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.119
lot of good quality of life stuff. The Metal Quest two I really like,

757
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.719
Dan. I know you found it
a bit uncomfortable for longer periods,

758
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.079
but like I mean, all VR, it's not just the Metic Quest.

759
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:16.679
The thing with the Metic Quest I
don't love is like the weird velcro,

760
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.280
like it's just kind of hard to
make it comfortable, you know. So

761
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.000
once you get the hang of the
PSVR two, it's easier to like tighten

762
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:28.239
the back, like loosen the front. It's got that great rubber light bloders

763
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.920
and yeah, it's crazy even with
glasses, like I got big glasses,

764
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.480
and it's like super comfortable. Like
it's the most comfortable with that I've ever

765
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.920
seen. It's like a tale as
old as time. It's like, it's

766
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.039
a great headset. Plus it's got
okay, it's got the power of the

767
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.079
PS five. That's like it's elevator
pitch. You've got the PS five backing

768
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.800
these PlayStation games. Horizon Call of
the Mountain as like the show piece.

769
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.559
During the pre release period, I
was like, it looked good, but

770
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.199
man, it just felt like a
proof of concept for VR that could have

771
00:50:54.239 --> 00:51:01.280
come out in twenty fifteen. Literally, the twenty second the headset came out

772
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.559
for the public, I played Resuval
Village in VR. I played No Man

773
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.800
Sky in VR, I played Grand
Turis Most seven in VR, and literally,

774
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.320
as I mentioned in my initial review, I'm like, hey, my

775
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.880
opinion on this whole thing could change
in a week. Right now. It

776
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.840
needs games desperately, all of a
sudden launch day. I still think it's

777
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:24.000
really fucking expensive. It's five nine
ninety nine. Yes, if a previous

778
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.079
headset has not changed your mind,
I don't think this thing is going to.

779
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.599
But if you've been interested in VR, if you've been keeping up with

780
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.519
the iterations, this is definitely,
in my opinion, the best one.

781
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:39.239
Holy shit, playing Resival Village in
VR. I mean it's kind of exactly

782
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:43.960
what you think it is, but
also a bit more. It's fucking horrifying.

783
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.199
That first trek through the woods after
the truck crash, when you get

784
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:52.400
to that, Oh my god.
There's something about that series, or at

785
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:53.800
least the you know, post six, you know, like that once we've

786
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:58.000
got on the first person ethan verse
or whatever. Yeah, that it lends

787
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.119
itself so fucking well to VR.
I mean, his first person that's probably

788
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:06.480
a big part of it. But
Villa or a Biohazards seven was easily my

789
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.880
favorite VR experience ever, you know, leading up like Horror works so well

790
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.679
in VR, and that game in
particular because it's a real last game.

791
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.239
It's a full game. It doesn't
feel like a gimmick. It doesn't feel

792
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.079
like I'm actually surprised to hear that
you were super down on Horizon. As

793
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:22.920
much as I don't like the like
Bass Horizon games, I was actually pretty

794
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.559
impressed with the VR one. But
it's still it does feel very VR game.

795
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.119
It feels like there is some openness
to it, but it's still very

796
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.519
gimmicky and kind of unrails and stuff
like that Versus Village and Resonable seven,

797
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.599
which are full ass games in VR
and incredibly effective in ways that like I

798
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:43.639
didn't jump scares, didn't get me
in the resonaval games before I tried the

799
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.000
VR versions, and like I played
maybe forty five minutes a village today.

800
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.400
You know I got to the first
Like there's the part where you're going through

801
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.480
the snow and everything, and it's
basically the village from our four where you

802
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.679
just survive a certain amount of time. Yeah, and it's so fucking intense.

803
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.599
Guys just shooting flaming arrows and stuff
from the roofs, and you know

804
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.559
the AMMO situation, Like it's even
more frantic when you're reaching down to like

805
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:06.280
trying to load the gun and like
cock the gun, popping the magazine out,

806
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.920
putting it in, cocking the gun
or the Yeah. So if you

807
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:14.760
played Resival four VR in Quest two, you kind of know each They went

808
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.960
all in on giving the different guns
unique reload animation. The Red nine you

809
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.360
actually flick it like Leon does,
which is incredible. Yeah. Yeah,

810
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.760
it's I encourage Mary to buy that
and upgrade that weapon as soon as you

811
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.719
could when we played. But um, the fucking sniper rifle. You do

812
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.840
the whole bolt action, pull the
shotgun, you have to load each individual

813
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.519
shell. So like they're very much
doing that half life Alex thing where it's

814
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:42.400
like reloading a gun is no longer
something you could take for granted when these

815
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.559
seventeen werewolves and this giant hammer wielding
guy are chasing you through this village and

816
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:55.239
oh man, I'm halfway debating,
like actually playing through speaking realistically, like

817
00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:00.559
halfway through that game. I do
not I'm good with horror. You both

818
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.119
know I love horror. You both
know I played a lot of horror video

819
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:08.400
games. I can I enjoy the
scares. I genuinely don't know if I

820
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:14.679
could handle the house, the second
area, you know what I'm talking about.

821
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:20.119
The baby, the fetus thing.
Yeah, oh fuck that that was

822
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:24.199
on a TV screen. That's one
of the scariest moments in resonable history.

823
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:31.840
And I cannot imagine. I couldn't
imagine regular regular style being in that closet

824
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.000
or I was in a locker.
I think looking at the at the baby,

825
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.400
I do not think that I could
handle that VR. I remember vividly

826
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.880
was it seven var was so scary
going to the basement with all the like

827
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.119
mold dudes and everybody, oh the
mold uh scene And actual think we actually

828
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.599
have this recorded on game Spot because
this was like years ago, right,

829
00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:04.039
and we recorded going down into the
mold with like two shotgun shells and like

830
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.159
six bullets. You know, it's
not enough to take care of these guys.

831
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.159
And the build up to that scene, you know I'm talking about.

832
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:16.079
You go into the room, there's
um, there's a hole in the room

833
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.760
and you have to get down on
all fours and crawl into the hole and

834
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:24.400
you see a shrine and then when
you turn around to leave the hole,

835
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:31.480
there's like a girl's legs outside of
the hole's like she saw you. She

836
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.639
like runs away, and you're just
like, I'm never coming out of this

837
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.840
hole. I'm gonna die in this
hole. You don't want to leave the

838
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:43.679
hole now because everything outside of the
hole is danger. You leave the hole

839
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.760
and as you know it, as
you leave the hole, like the room

840
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.920
is like fucked. And I think
the I think the mold is like literally

841
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.440
outside of the door. So the
second you open the door, he's like

842
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.679
waiting for you, like ready to
get and it's just like the build up

843
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.360
the tenseness. Well, so no
horror. Oh that's the thing with like

844
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.119
call them mountain and obviously it's very
different genres. I'd say call them Outain

845
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:15.199
is like this climbing sim adventure first
person get like gallery shooter. Um,

846
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:20.039
whereas, yeah, Dan, you
mentioned it, like village is very much

847
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:27.320
a long form video game, ass
survival horror video game. So I think

848
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.519
the fact that I am in this
village and I can see this church up

849
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:35.880
here where I need to go.
I'm already sweating thinking about House Beneviento as

850
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.440
I just googled, I forgot the
name. Um, I haven't seen Lady

851
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:44.039
D yet. All the screenshots for
the press assets are like here's Lady D

852
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.440
and VR and she's like towering above
you. Now I'm excited to see that,

853
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:52.639
not from the horny perspective, just
from like like Scout, from a

854
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:57.320
sexual perspective. Now all, I'm
not even a little hard. I don't

855
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.239
even care about boners. I was
just intry stid it through the science.

856
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:06.400
No, I was thinking we could
measure it and my boner for science,

857
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.920
not have for boners. I have
not jaded three times to Lady D today

858
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:19.800
already. Have you guys tried Blue
Chow. No, I'm first. It's

859
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.440
amazing how they turn like mundane things
that like would not make you bad an

860
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.239
eye and like, like, let's
say, in Village, there's a part

861
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.440
early on where you get knocked into
kind of like a crawl space and there's

862
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:31.199
a lot of bodies down there,
and like, okay, sure, a

863
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:34.760
creepy bunch of bodies and stuff.
There's a part where you walk up to

864
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.599
one and you hit X and like
you lift up a guy's head and it's

865
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:38.559
like, oh oh and dead guy. Whatever is it going to do a

866
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:43.079
jump scare or whatever? I guess
not. I don't think twice about that

867
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.079
when I'm playing on my TV,
but when you're in VR and you are

868
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.280
like confronted with it, and I
did that today. I hit X on

869
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.360
the guy's head and it pulled it
up and your face to face, and

870
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.280
suddenly the idea of like if this
motherfucker opens his eyes and the yells at

871
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.320
me, I'm gonna shit bricks,
like it is so much more effective way.

872
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:01.880
And Mike, I'm the same way
where it's like I don't know if

873
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.360
I'm gonna beat it necessarily, but
I just kind of want to try it

874
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.960
out so I could talk about it
tonight and now I'm like, fuck,

875
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.039
that was really good, and like
it changes the gun play. It's not

876
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.719
a lazy port. It's not a
like, well we got a first person

877
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.840
game, will make it so the
VR controls the camera or whatever, like

878
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.719
the gun stuff. Like it all
super works, which excites me very much

879
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.119
about Resume before remake if it's a
similar situation. Oh yeah. The tutorial

880
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.079
for Resume of Village VR is like, you're in this military bunker, presumably

881
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:35.280
training for like the BSAA, like
Chris Redfield who comes in with his team

882
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.079
at the end of Village spoiler alert, you're presumably doing that because it's all

883
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.119
military. And you get to the
final room in the in the tutorial and

884
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.559
it's like, go turn the power
on across the garage and the pitch dark.

885
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.960
But like even even your flashlight you
have to open your jacket kind of

886
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.559
like the Resume four merchant and grab
your flashlight and then turn it on.

887
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.159
Yeah, going across that room like
this already fucking sucks in the best way.

888
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.159
I hate this, Like something's going
to jump out. It's so smart

889
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.079
and how it does because like you
know, it's such a cool VR thing

890
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.360
to like open up your jacket and
grab the flashlight. But also it realizes

891
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.559
that, like, well, you
don't necessarily want to be holding that the

892
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.440
entire time, so if you let
go once you've turned the flashlight on,

893
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:15.480
it just acts like your head where
you're looking has the flashlight things, so

894
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.199
you don't constantly have to do that. It's and then it's so smart.

895
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.239
I feel like they one thousand percent
realize that people like Village just as much

896
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:28.199
as an action game as a horror
game, because they're like, hey,

897
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.159
go try to pistol out the fire
and range. You're like, okay,

898
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.840
pop the magazine out with circle,
grab with on my left hip for a

899
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.360
new magazine, pop it in cock
it aim. Once you bring your left

900
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.079
hand up, it aligns the radical
and I was like, wait, I'm

901
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.800
seeing two guns. Something's fucked up. Then it closed. Oh that was

902
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.639
fucking super cool. The e PSVR
two has eye tracking. It can tell

903
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.039
what your eyes are doing. I
did not think Village was implementing that until

904
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:57.320
I brought the gun up. If
you were just holding the gun with two

905
00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:00.880
hands, you see two guns.
Beca has like a blurred gun because it's

906
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.119
it knows that what two of your
eyes are open. If you close your

907
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.760
eye to aim, you see one
gun and it lines up with a radical

908
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.119
didn't realize that. Yeah, So
then they're like, go try the shotgun.

909
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.159
I'm like, okay, this will
be the same control as like nope,

910
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.480
you got a load each shell individually, and then I go to shoot

911
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.039
it didn't work. It's like oh
right, I was like, oh man,

912
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:22.719
they know like shotgun is. So
it's so satisfying and recent Resoneval games

913
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:24.440
anyway, and when you were like
holding it with with your hands and blasting

914
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.559
things, it feels so fucking good. Plus the knife, which the knife.

915
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.440
If you're using the knife and resonaval, you're in a bad way and

916
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.519
it sucks. You feel ineffective and
everything. But here it's on like this

917
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.239
sheath on your forearm. Yeah,
and so like when it comes time to

918
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.320
the knife, you're like, yeah, it feels awesome. It's like they're

919
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:47.760
like, let's make a Rambo simulation
meets horror game. And also you can

920
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:53.039
punch through windows. Give you like
do this with your hand. Yeah,

921
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.920
if you hold both R one and
R two or L two and R L

922
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.760
one, you can punch and then
you hold up up your wrists like this.

923
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.480
Yeah, you know, if you're
not watching the video, you'd literally

924
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:07.559
just make like I don't know,
like you just hold up your fists in

925
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.559
front of you to block you're doing, and that's how you block and then

926
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:16.079
you punch. Oh man, they
did not half ass the ship. The

927
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:22.480
idea of like physically needing to hold
up your hands to protect yourself as UM,

928
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.199
if you're so visceral and like stressful, the idea that I would I

929
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:31.880
would physically hold up my hands.
I remember even like when when VR was

930
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.679
just kind of get going and it
wasn't very good, but we were all

931
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.039
giving it that saving grace because it's
interesting and you want it to work.

932
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.360
UM and playing some like really half
assed, uh scary VR demos that you

933
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:49.320
don't have like yeah, they'd have
like little things like pop out at you

934
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.880
as all like shock value. But
it worked because you feel so vulnerable in

935
01:01:54.079 --> 01:02:00.400
VR. UM Horror and VR are
just the peanut butter and chocolate of of

936
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.559
games. It's just like so ridiculous. It's meant to be UM, but

937
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.760
definitely not for the faint of heart. And when I say faint of heart,

938
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:08.880
I also mean, like people who
have like hard conditions. I think

939
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:14.559
you can genuinely totally die playing this
from scaring your I was going to mention,

940
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.440
as far as I could find,
there was no teleport movement option.

941
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.639
So if you get motion sickness in
VR, I don't think Village is going

942
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:28.280
to be doing you any favors.
Unfortunately, I don't. Luckily, it's

943
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.920
got the snap stuff. It's got
the like yeah yeah, but moving around

944
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:37.159
yeah, which is unfortunate. Like
Russ frushtick. He and I got the

945
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.360
polygon units initially for PSVR, and
he was saying, like, dude,

946
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.800
I want to play more. That
seemed great, but I'm just getting violently

947
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.679
nauseous immediately. You can't do it. I'm like, oh that sucks,

948
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.119
because I mean, yes, I'm
not done talking about Village on the show.

949
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:57.400
Probably next week. I think I'll
have played a lot more. But

950
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.519
gee, Grant Raise Most seven.
I'm not a racing game correction. I

951
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:07.599
love arcade Racers, but I'm not
a simulation racing boat with that, but

952
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:13.079
same thing. Just to like update
the review and check out some great PS

953
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.400
five games with the VR updates,
I'm like, I'll played Grants most seven

954
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:20.159
nothing full games, full real ass
games. He's aren't gimmicks, These aren't

955
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.440
short little demos. These are like
grand TRESM seven is a full ass racing

956
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.800
game. Again called them Outain is
good looking, it's great looking, but

957
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.320
god, Grants seven. You're in
the you're in the driver's seat. I

958
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:36.360
did a race at night when it
was raining, and the light the way

959
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:40.920
the light like refracted through the droplets
on the windshield. Uh, I acted

960
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:46.920
actually looked up in my rear view, got literally blinded by headlights behind me

961
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:54.000
in a way that just would not
have happened in outside of VR. It's

962
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.559
a completely different experience to the point
where, like you know, Grants Were

963
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:00.880
seven's been out for a while,
I never really like I loved GRANGERSMO three,

964
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.440
but I haven't really thought about it
since. Now I'm like, fuck,

965
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.440
I have an Xbox Wheel, do
I need to get a fucking PlayStation

966
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:13.519
wheel? Just because like a wheel
with VR looking this good like that sounds

967
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.119
like a fucking awesome. So I
think now all of a sudden, I'm

968
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:20.719
super interested in GT seven because racing
him. Also, you're not necessarily going

969
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:24.920
to do you don't have to do
a two hour session if VR is a

970
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.679
lot for you, which it gets
uncomfortable for me. But if I do

971
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:30.800
a few races be done in a
half hour, that sounds like a good

972
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:34.920
time to me. So yeah,
I will say about GT seven car pervs

973
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:39.800
need to settle down with the car
stuff. The there you go. It's

974
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.719
like the fucking intro video. Did
you watch that, Mike? I had

975
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:45.719
already watched it when I played on
PS five, so I skipped it.

976
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:51.599
It's fucking like ten minutes long,
and it's like Da Vinci and Alexander Graham,

977
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:56.960
Bell and Elvis and sock hops and
cars. It's like yeah, So

978
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.840
it's like you can't just show the
history of the last one hundred years of

979
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:02.280
humanity and be like, well,
yeah, cars were the big thing.

980
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.920
It's like they're cool that they go
for room and take you to the grocery

981
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.280
store. But we don't need to
like whack off all over him. Is

982
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:15.559
it Sauci the current creator? Uh? It looks up super quick. Yeah,

983
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:24.360
polyphonya cousin Ori Yamouchi. So I
actually always took him as kind of

984
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:30.960
the Kojima of racing games, Like
he knows it's melodramatic and dumb and grandiose,

985
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:34.280
but he goes for it, which
Ali Welsh Polygon wrote a really good

986
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:39.039
view of Grandtisms seven from last year. It would have been March twenty twenty

987
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:43.719
two if memory serves uh, And
I think he's saying like yeah, like

988
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.239
Yamouchie just knows what he's doing with
that. Like sure, if if you

989
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:49.760
come in blind, it's gonna be
like, oh my god, what are

990
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:54.880
you doing? But like I think
it's self aware. Okay, yeah,

991
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:58.760
yeah, it helps. As someone
who has not played grants most since was

992
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.360
a Spec three on PS two six
three, I played a bit of four,

993
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.360
but a Speck was the one I
played the ship out of that game,

994
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.199
So that was my That was my
our only PS two game. That

995
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:10.239
was our PS two bundle game when
we got the PS two for Christmas with

996
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.840
my family, so we played a
lot of that. I heard a lot

997
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.719
of ninety nine left balloons kickstart my
heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

998
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:19.760
that game's great. Yeah. It's
the fact that like I suddenly want to

999
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:26.000
like play through a Grand Charismo game
is very telling, like they and that's

1000
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:28.360
the key, right, look at
the things that we're raving about versus the

1001
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.440
things we were lukewarm or not into
the things we're lukewarm or not into.

1002
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:33.880
Were things that are kind of like
gimmicky VR things or you know, Mike,

1003
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:36.039
you've seen a little more down on
Horizon than I was, which is

1004
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:41.199
very much a VR game. You
put it on the right, full relast

1005
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:45.599
game, Resonable Village, Resonable seven
before it, and Grand Turismo seven add

1006
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:48.840
something substantial to it, you know, yeah, yeah, And I mean

1007
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:54.199
even No Man Sky. I saw
two planets today. The first one you're

1008
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.360
very much they're showing you how to
scavenge and craft a few things to get

1009
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.679
off planet to get to the next
one that I want to replay just because

1010
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:05.360
holy shit, No Man Sky has
done so much renovation since the last time

1011
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:10.239
I played it in twenty nineteen,
and now I'm just I want to play

1012
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.639
No Man Sky. I want to
play Granturisma seven, I want to play

1013
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:16.239
Resume Village in VR because none of
them are half assing it, Like I'm

1014
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.199
saying, yeah, the same way
with No Man Sky. I haven't played

1015
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.199
it since launch, and I remember
I kind of liked it at launch back

1016
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:25.480
when like everyone was like man and
there wasn't a lot going on there.

1017
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.239
So like now there's what five years
of shit they've added to it and now

1018
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:30.639
it's in VR like that, like, oh dude, love it about You

1019
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.480
can like role play, you can
fully roleplay as a pirate or a smuggler

1020
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:39.960
or like you get these other missions. It's like rock Star levels of side

1021
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:44.960
stuff you can do as a like
as a pirate um. You could build

1022
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.079
a base on this planet. You
can log this planet and go keep a

1023
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:51.119
home there. You can go to
this intergalactic space station and trade with other

1024
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:57.519
people. It's like it's one of
the biggest post release updates of a game.

1025
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:01.239
Like the entire studio is just dedicated
towards making content. I think it's

1026
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:05.679
a huge victory for that team.
They should be very proud. Also,

1027
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:10.639
the community really rallied behind them too. After like a Rocky start, I

1028
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:15.039
think everybody has really gotten their money's
worth in that game if you've continued to

1029
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.159
play it. Well. I feel
like Rocky is underselling it because, like

1030
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.680
I remember being really bummed out because
I know Hello Games is a small team,

1031
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.760
and I really like Joe Danger,
and I remember working with the Hello

1032
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.079
Games team several times when I was
covering Joe Danger a Game Informer, and

1033
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.079
I was like man, what a
just humble, awesome group of folks.

1034
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.079
They're they're they're all awesome, and
then like the no Man Sky thing happened

1035
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:38.640
and it's like, oh man,
they are getting the full brunt of Internet

1036
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.800
pissed off Breddit shit. Now,
oh you lied to us, like you

1037
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:45.760
under deliver. Yeah, I know
a lot of the messaging, Like I

1038
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:47.119
don't know the whole story, but
like I know there was some like messaging

1039
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:50.359
that wasn't clear or whatever, but
like the Internet was like they were like

1040
01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:54.159
bomb threats and shit, you know, like it was. It was as

1041
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.359
ugly as that shit gets basically,
and then for them to have like again,

1042
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.920
I've played it since launched, but
from all accounts that I've heard,

1043
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.239
they have turned that thing around.
They have stuck by it, and Mary

1044
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.760
you mentioning that the community is like
come around on it, Like that's what

1045
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:12.720
a rare good story in terms of
this stuff of like toxic Internet shit and

1046
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.119
expectations from developers, and seems like
everyone got to a good spot. I

1047
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:17.960
mean unless again, I've been following
it, but it sounds like it's been

1048
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.840
positive. No, I mean it's
positive. Now, I wouldn't say it's

1049
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:28.039
a positive story because gamers are just
the worst sometimes. Yeah, and man,

1050
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:30.399
we just didn't have the whole bomb
threat part that'd be the better.

1051
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:34.520
Should never have gotten to that low. But I'm really happy to see that

1052
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:39.840
the game deb's always believed in their
vision and continue to work on it,

1053
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.319
and they just needed a little bit
more time. And I think that that

1054
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.680
is true of so many games.
We say this all the time, but

1055
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:51.640
every game that releases is a miracle. So it is so difficult to create

1056
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.960
again construct a game and release it
out into the world. We should be

1057
01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.520
so thankful any time a game comes
out, and if it's your cup of

1058
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.199
tea, that's super understandable and you
can go find something else that is.

1059
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:08.239
But to be like just straight up
angry about it is so ridiculous and I

1060
01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.800
just don't specially a lot of patience
for it, especially because like anyone on

1061
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.399
the outside doesn't know what the reasonings
are for something like maybe like and I

1062
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.399
don't know either, you know,
we just cover games and stuff like that.

1063
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:21.720
We we don't know, like maybe
Hello Games wanted to do a certain

1064
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:26.199
thing but then because of budget stuff
or something that declined from a you know,

1065
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.640
Sony or something. We don't fucking
know. So I just hate saying

1066
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.640
like I've just seen so much in
both video games and wrestling where these like

1067
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:36.119
obsessive fandoms are so convinced of something
like this happened because of this, and

1068
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.920
they are just wrong almost one hundred
percent of the time. And so it

1069
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.520
just bumps me on so much that
like imagine like a development team that like

1070
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.239
had the best intentions and everything,
and then it's like, well, we

1071
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:49.520
can't talk about what really happened here, but people are fucking wrong with what

1072
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:53.199
you think here. Like that's just
such a shitty position to be in,

1073
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.640
you know. Yeah, yeah,
So I never thought Pete like VR would

1074
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.920
be the thing to bring me back
to check up on this five years of

1075
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:05.880
progress that no Man Sky has made. But immediately, and I've heard anecdotal

1076
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:11.159
things like I have one friend who's
got like seven houses across his galaxy.

1077
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:15.800
He's got like eight ships in his
garage like that he like made some of

1078
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.439
them himself, Like, like god, that sounds awesome. He's like,

1079
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.640
yeah, Now, I just like
role play as a smuggler with a few

1080
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:25.199
friends, like other people role play
as like pirates and stuff like this sounds

1081
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:30.680
awesome, Like like he was one
of those people who had initially helped Kickstar

1082
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:36.960
Star Citizen, and that is like, no, I mean parts of it

1083
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:43.239
piecemeal. That is like, I
don't know, I don't want to accuse

1084
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:49.119
like Chris Roberts of anything, but
like that strikes me as the what people

1085
01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:55.279
were accusing No man Sky of What
else are we playing right now? Dan?

1086
01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:00.319
What are you playing? Resident of
five? We talk about Resident people

1087
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:05.439
full Here's the thing. I'm playing
through it with my sister. My sister

1088
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:09.560
has the most fucked up, fucking
opinions about Resonaval ever, Kayla. I

1089
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:14.640
know you're like her order sucks.
It's it's objectively just insane and weird and

1090
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:19.039
shitty. It's weird, weird.
It's not contrary, I know, but

1091
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:25.279
it's so bad that she means it
and she understands that, like what she

1092
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:29.720
says one and two she hates and
that Resonval to remake is the worst because

1093
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.000
it's stressful. It's like, I
know, I've I've complained about this a

1094
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:35.920
million times. Yeah, completely door
dashing right now and listening to this and

1095
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:41.680
laughing. But god damn it,
we're finally to the point now that she's

1096
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.600
done her weird ass order through the
series that we're at the co op ones

1097
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:51.000
now, so we're at five and
six, and I don't fucking understand how

1098
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:55.079
much shit resoneval five gets and people
act like it's not a fun game,

1099
01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:59.800
like especially co op. I've never
played the game solo when it came out,

1100
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:01.359
played it with a roommate, and
this is my second time playing through

1101
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:04.920
it, and I'm playing with Kayla, and it is a dumb ass fun

1102
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:09.199
co op game. It is,
I guess I can understand, like if

1103
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:12.359
you're a purist, if you're like
ten, control Resonable one and two,

1104
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.640
you know, like a survival horror. Like it is not that this is

1105
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.840
a dumb ass co op action game, but it is such a fun one

1106
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.039
and it has things that like it
has a lot of those feelings that resume

1107
01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.880
be Forehead, the foehead, the
village. You know, Five's got the

1108
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:28.720
part where you know that the guy's
running around with the axe thing and there's

1109
01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:31.039
the barrels and the electric stuff.
Like it feels similar. But with a

1110
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:34.560
friend. Yeah, it's not scary. I'm not necessarily getting scared. It's

1111
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.720
it's intense, But Resoname before wasn't
even that scary, and that's like,

1112
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.159
you know, everyone loves that game. I just I guess I don't understand

1113
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.560
why everyone shits on Resumeable five so
much because we are having a fucking blast

1114
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.760
playing it. Well, I think
that I just want to clarify that playing

1115
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:57.000
almost anything with another person that you
like is fun, So the bar is

1116
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.760
really low when you can enjoy a
world old. I have played some really

1117
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.760
shitty games with my friends. There's
this one where it's like, you're basically

1118
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.359
just like playing pub g but in
an Ikea, and it is a total

1119
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.399
mess. But because I'm joking about
being in an Ikea with my friends and

1120
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.479
they are funny, we're having a
good time. Is that game really fucking

1121
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:23.720
good? No, you can't rely
on the fact that you're playing with your

1122
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:28.119
very entertaining, very funny sister and
be like, actually, Resident Evil five

1123
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:32.079
is good. No, that's not
true. What's happening is is that you're

1124
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.760
really funny, really charming sister is
making up for the fact that game is

1125
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:42.720
fucking stupidly weird, and it actually
like probably brings up a lot of what

1126
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.039
makes her so fun. It's stupid, it's irreverent, it's ridiculous. It

1127
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:49.279
doesn't make sense. She gets to
have fun with it. It's probably actually

1128
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:51.680
bringing out the best in both of
you. Maybe it's not a bad game.

1129
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:55.760
Is this why Tim Terry thinks that
Resideval six is one of the best

1130
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:58.640
games of all time and beat it
like twelve times. It's fun with the

1131
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.560
right people. But were a lot
of games. This is like my issue

1132
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:04.560
with a lot of games that are
co op and everyone's like, is this

1133
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:09.119
game genius? And it's like,
I don't know, maybe not, But

1134
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.159
like you have to consider the fact
that as soon as you add other humans

1135
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.880
into the mix that you like,
that game already has so much going for

1136
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.600
it. Because you're playing with people
you like, you're already having a good

1137
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:23.560
time. That's not across the board
though. Because me and Brian bore my

1138
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.439
old roommate game for one of my
best friends just went to San Antonio with

1139
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:29.720
him. We bought Resonaval six.
We're both Resonaval fans, and we're like,

1140
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:30.680
we're gonna do this co op together. You're gonna come into my place,

1141
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:33.199
We're gonna play on the same screen. We're gonna we're gonna do this.

1142
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.279
We both bought it. We had
like one three hour sitting with it,

1143
01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:40.279
and we were like, this shit
sucks, and we turned it in

1144
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.079
and never played it again. Maybe
you guys aren't really as good of friends

1145
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:46.680
as you think you are. Wait, maybe you're not. Maybe she's not

1146
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.840
like the person you thought I was, and you guys are actually both lame,

1147
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.680
and it made you self discover that
about yourselves, And it's kind of

1148
01:15:55.720 --> 01:16:00.239
a better gamer in Apocalypse Now you
like became self where in the middle of

1149
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:05.079
it what a monster you are,
and then reconciling that was like, no,

1150
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:10.000
it's the game that's wrong, not
me. It's the game that's wrong.

1151
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.359
I'm selling it. I never thought
of it that way. How funny.

1152
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:15.760
So you're saying every game is better
in co op Mary, because Resival

1153
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:20.840
five tests in our friendship maybe more
than anything. Yeah, we stopped,

1154
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:27.039
we almost stopped being doing the show
and being buds and everything. It's pretty

1155
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:33.119
crazy. There was definitely is available. Everyone will know what we're talking.

1156
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:38.600
You can see exactly what I went
home that night, questioning what the next

1157
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:41.479
morning would bring. At work,
I'm like, are we going to be

1158
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.640
good then tomorrow? Like we both
got legitimately pissed. I was mad,

1159
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:50.039
but like I have a boss fight. You're when you're in the swamp doing

1160
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.640
the boat between the islands, and
then they're like the drawbridge puzzles with the

1161
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.119
spikes. That's where we're at right
now. We're like at the part where

1162
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:59.399
you gotta get all the different parts
to the door. And Yeah, I

1163
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:01.119
don't know. It was I mean, you are you in Kayless streaming it?

1164
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:04.359
Yeah. I was gonna say,
maybe it's because it was this like

1165
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:08.880
weekly show that Mary and I.
It was just it was after hours.

1166
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.000
Maybe it was because it was work
that it was just more likely to frustrate

1167
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.199
us. But I guess if you
guys are streaming it, then it's not

1168
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:18.039
completely different. But like, I
don't know, two in the morning on

1169
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.960
a Friday and we're drunk, Like
it doesn't feel like work. Yeah,

1170
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.439
I don't know. Maybe we just
had seen too much. I I think

1171
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:28.079
it felt like work. I think
it was just like it's coop, you

1172
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:30.479
rely on each other. If you
feel like you can't trust the other person,

1173
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:34.039
it does start to get a little
bitter. I was like, legit

1174
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:39.359
trying to do a good job,
and if we start messing with each other

1175
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:43.560
too much, it can get spicy. But I think like you have to

1176
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:47.319
work together there. Some of my
like darkest Resident Evil days are with Mike,

1177
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:50.159
but it doesn't mean I always blamed
him. I had a really rough

1178
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:55.840
time in Resideval three, but I
always like appreciated Mike. I just was

1179
01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.199
broken sometimes. And in Resideval five, I had the ability to say that

1180
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.479
was your fault, you stupid bitch, and that really upsets Mike and it

1181
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:11.319
causes a chain reaction where Mike no
longer appreciates me and thinks it's my fault

1182
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.600
for the reason we didn't beat the
boss, and then our friendship is at

1183
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:18.920
risk. Oh, I'm thinking of
something completely different. You're talking about the

1184
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:25.039
boss fight against Oz. So it's
funny. It's funny your memory of like

1185
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.760
when we're fucking pissed at each other, because in the scene we're talking about,

1186
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:30.600
I actually was having a really good
time and was just messing with you

1187
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:33.239
and just like dropping the draw bage
on him on purpose, and he actually

1188
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:39.199
got mad at me. My memory
is a put the controller and refused to

1189
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.760
play, and let you know,
Mike literally stopped playing in the middle of

1190
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.600
a boss fight to spite me and
to kill us. I know, thank

1191
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:53.079
you. I forgot what was her
name? Oswel you suck? That was?

1192
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:58.159
Do anything as bad as Kayla?
Who I saw the rocket incidents the

1193
01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.640
thing. She fucking gets the rocket
and I'm like, hell, yeah,

1194
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:02.880
you got a rocket, okay,
and now be careful. She's like,

1195
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.319
should I shoot it? Like noble
games? You like, get like one

1196
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:10.520
fucking rocket and it kills if she
just shoots it into the fucking lake.

1197
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:14.439
But I think I think it's a
really funny clip and people should watch it.

1198
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:16.880
I think I see a lot of
myself in her, which is when

1199
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:21.560
someone when someone gives me something and
looks me in the eye and says,

1200
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:28.479
whatever you do, don't run backwards
with this in your hand. My instinct

1201
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.000
is to look at you in the
eye and run backwards with the thing in

1202
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.279
my hands. If you say,
whatever you do, don't just shoot it.

1203
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.960
She's instinctively she's going to be like, WHOA, what a lull?

1204
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:43.640
This will be? What a gas? I'm gonna shoot it into the dingdong.

1205
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.359
She knows what she's doing it,
and I think she's winning. I

1206
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:50.119
don't know how the fuck we progress
through any game we play, because I

1207
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:54.560
think we're both just like we lean
into the chaos, but somehow it works.

1208
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:59.840
She's obviously fucking with you and winning
victoriously. I'm super proud of her,

1209
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.000
and you know, she'll probably get
through it anyway. She'll suffer here

1210
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:05.239
because she doesn't have the best weapon, but she did it all just to

1211
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:09.119
fuck with you for that one moment, and I think that's worth it.

1212
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:13.880
You almost always have too much ammo. After the last boss fight and residual

1213
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:15.760
games, she'll be, Yeah,
you've been holding out of this thing forever,

1214
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:20.960
and then yeah, yeah, I
don't think there's some game code,

1215
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:25.640
Veronica you could run out and find
I did no I I Me and Bianca

1216
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.239
both had the same experience of the
Tyrant fight in the plane, like we

1217
01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:30.279
didn't have the ship that you need
or whatever, and like you can't just

1218
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:31.880
go back to a safe room room. Mary got close, but I think

1219
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:36.680
she had like two extra Magnum rounds
that saved her. Oh yeah, Magnum

1220
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:41.600
was like such a godsend in that
game. I can't believe we got back

1221
01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:45.319
to Resident Evil somehow. What else
are we playing? What are you playing?

1222
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:55.119
Um? I am playing Returnal on
PC, and yeah one, I

1223
01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:00.439
love Returnal. I'm so glad you
have returned her Returnal. You think it

1224
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:03.960
would be some weird fever dream,
but I can't tell you how glorious it

1225
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.960
is. The first time I ever
played Returnal, I think I played it.

1226
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:11.239
This is gonna reveal a little bit
about myself, but like I think,

1227
01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:15.439
it took me two weeks of playing
pretty hardcore before I can get past

1228
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:19.840
the first area. I didn't understand, didn't understand the mechanics I was.

1229
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.079
It was really rough for me to
get through that first boss. Um.

1230
01:21:24.319 --> 01:21:27.319
I got there to the first boss
lots of times and died and I just

1231
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:30.720
could not get to area two.
I picked up this game and it was

1232
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:35.680
like a kid on a bike.
That's like, but I'm drunk and like,

1233
01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:41.359
you know, not fully coherent.
I knew the mechanics, but I

1234
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:49.680
was still barely getting through. Listen, my metaphors are golden. I'm saying,

1235
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:55.079
like I knew what to do.
I was back, but I couldn't

1236
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.479
remember all the pieces. Um,
I didn't have my sword because I'm playing

1237
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:01.119
it again from scratch. Playing that
game without without a play is so mean.

1238
01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:06.039
I couldn't. There was just like, oh, you even get the

1239
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:10.680
ability your phase, the ability for
you to like warp from place to place.

1240
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.920
That's earned. So the first time
I get to one a warp,

1241
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:15.560
it's just like, you don't have
the skill yet. And I was like,

1242
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:19.479
I don't have the skill to use
a bubble. I didn't know that

1243
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:25.520
before. It's just a bubble,
just put me through. But all these

1244
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:29.079
things you have to um, you
have to like earn through the game by

1245
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.279
playing it again and again and again. So by playing it, I think,

1246
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.479
I want to say, like two
hours in, I had done the

1247
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:40.039
house and I had gotten through to
the first boss and beat it. And

1248
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:45.000
it felt so good to get to
that boss and beat I don't know what

1249
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:49.239
the boss identifies as, but to
beat that boss on the first try,

1250
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:54.399
and it was it's a very difficult
boss, even that first that first dude,

1251
01:22:55.479 --> 01:23:00.319
I was really excited to see that
amount of progression of myself, really

1252
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.720
proud to like see that in about
two hours I could get back to something

1253
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:06.079
that took me weeks to do the
first time I played that game. It's

1254
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:12.800
still so gorgeous. The audio is. I mean, it's just a dream.

1255
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.840
That audio deserves to win every award. It's just an incredible game on

1256
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.520
PC. You get to play through
it all again on the Steam deck,

1257
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.319
you can play it. I had
to reduce the quality a lot. I

1258
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:28.239
had to reduce the frame right.
I think it's worth it because it's a

1259
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:32.720
tiny little screen. I wasn't like
I can't see all the you know,

1260
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.119
reflections in the pond. It's like, who cares, man, It's a

1261
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:40.079
very tiny screen. And it's really
cool to be able to play it on

1262
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:44.359
the go. I do think it's
a battery eater, just because it's a

1263
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.840
heavy game, so I wasn't able
to play. But the fact that you

1264
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:51.000
can play Returnal like in your car
while your dog is at the vet.

1265
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:56.319
My dog is going through physical therapy
right now. So cool while you're driving,

1266
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.680
Yeah, it's awesome while you're driving. Do not play return while you

1267
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:03.680
drop. You will die in the
game, possibly in real life. There's

1268
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:08.239
no way you could beat the boss
while driving. That's not a challenge,

1269
01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.079
don't. This is really like I
got the code for it, but I

1270
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.239
haven't played it yet. And just
because there's been a lot of shit going

1271
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:15.439
on, but like, I want
to go to this so bad. I

1272
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:19.239
want to go the met but Return
just here. I have not held the

1273
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:24.920
control or playing Returnal for a couple
of years now. I remember fucking loving

1274
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.840
thing from the moment I started moving
around in that game. I remember thinking,

1275
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:30.439
like, I'm going to fucking love
this. It feels it feels so

1276
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.840
good, and it has some extras
things that I didn't play the first time

1277
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.319
we played it. I don't know
if you guys did. It has co

1278
01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:41.520
op or like the ability to play
with other people. That's fucking crazy.

1279
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:45.199
And then it has the ability to
play I don't know what this is,

1280
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.239
but it says like play old like
worlds or old lives. I don't know

1281
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:53.319
what that means either. Maybe you
can jump into an old life that you

1282
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:57.760
died at before. I don't know. I don't know because I haven't been

1283
01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:03.800
able to do it. And then
I think I didn't really know this because

1284
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:06.960
I don't remember playing this when we
played it. But you run across old

1285
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.079
bodies of your like dead self,
and then you can try and beat the

1286
01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:15.039
thing that killed your dead body.
Right. All this stuff was like I

1287
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:19.000
had no memory of that sounds familiar. That was in the original, I

1288
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:23.439
believe, so apparently it was like
all broken and they took it out or

1289
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:28.960
something like that. I don't I
didn't know that so playing it again,

1290
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:35.520
I was kind of like relearning it. It felt like it felt like reading

1291
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:40.680
a book that I had read ten
years ago and being like, I remember

1292
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:45.359
this chapter. I got so excited
when I saw an enemy that I remembered

1293
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:49.760
very vividly getting to the second area. I've only been able to get to

1294
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:54.800
level two in my time so far. But getting to level two and having

1295
01:25:54.840 --> 01:26:00.319
those cubes skycubes come after you,
and you being like I was so strong

1296
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.640
in L one, but in L
two, these cubes they'll get you.

1297
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:10.079
Oh, they can kicks ass.
The fact that you mentioned this, Mary,

1298
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:14.880
but like the Returnal was one of
the early, like true PS five

1299
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:19.159
exclusives. The fact that you can
steam de Yeah, the fact that you

1300
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:24.600
can play on a steam deck is
nuts. It's it is nuts. Morales

1301
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.279
is on there too, But again, like Returnal was up like straight up

1302
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:34.439
PS five s. I will reiterate
that the PS five version is so superior

1303
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:38.960
to the steam deck version, but
the fact that I can play Returnal on

1304
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:44.800
a steam deck is a modern marvel. It is just incredible that we have

1305
01:26:44.920 --> 01:26:48.880
come this far as a society and
as a people. But you will not

1306
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:54.119
get the quality that you expect a
Returnal on a Steam deck, but I

1307
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:58.520
was able to sufficiently play it.
There definitely is a game that like I

1308
01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:01.079
want to turn the lights off.
I want to, you know, turn

1309
01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:03.720
on this round sound. I just
wanted to like turn off anything, and

1310
01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.479
phone's on silent, Like I just
want to sink into this fucking thing.

1311
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:11.880
Such an atmosphereic game, Such a
sinker. I think it's a great game,

1312
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:15.760
and coming back to it has been
a joy. So I'm delighted to

1313
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:18.800
say that it is on PC.
It plays fabulously on PC. If you

1314
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.159
played it before and you want to
have an excuse to play it again,

1315
01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:28.000
good news you have it. If
you've never played it before. Hullo Return

1316
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:30.680
underrated, I under talked about.
I feel like people don't talk about that

1317
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:35.239
game. What a hidden Gem returns? That's so good and it's it's back,

1318
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:40.399
baby. What else was even like
up for a Game of the year

1319
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:42.520
that year? What was even?
Because I feel like we we came to

1320
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.880
this pretty easy. Even it would
not like I remember Hades was like we

1321
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:48.119
literally didn't talk about it, but
like what else would have been that year?

1322
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:54.119
Twenty one? Oh no, I'm
trying to remember, No, no,

1323
01:27:54.199 --> 01:28:00.439
no, twenty twenty would have been
Hades right now? Fuck two thousand,

1324
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:02.479
Yeah, twenty twenty was Haydes because
two thousand nineteen was out of Wilds,

1325
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.399
none of that. But for us, we did the one before fire

1326
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:10.279
Skip was a podcast, We did
the twenty twenty Game of the Year,

1327
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.239
and then we did twenty twenty one. So we've done three of these now,

1328
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.600
so it's Hayden's internal. What was
our one this last year? Game

1329
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:23.159
of the year? Last year was
what was it? Oh god, I'm

1330
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.920
blanking, yeah, what what one
game of the year last year year?

1331
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.319
Oh? Elden Ring, elden Ring. Oh yeah, yeah, and we

1332
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:38.000
discussed it. Yeah we did.
Yeah, so elden Ring, Hades and

1333
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.640
Returnal. Okay, that covers all
the bases, right, we've done right,

1334
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:46.359
So twenty twenty one was like death
loop. Um everyone remember it takes

1335
01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:57.640
two. I don't think we would
that was returned. Yeah, one would

1336
01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.399
have been return Twenty twenty was Hayes. Twenty nineteen would have and um outer

1337
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:09.399
Wild's uh securo we didn't do twenty
nineteen, correct, I'm just thinking what

1338
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:15.039
else did? What else were we
talking about with Returnal? Oh you don't

1339
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.760
have a website? Would even look
this up. Go look at polygons like

1340
01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:26.319
Top fifty to jog my memory.
I want to see ours escape the game

1341
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:30.640
of the year. Here's our twenty
twenty two. Oh Final Fantasy seven remake,

1342
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:41.000
Halo and Hitman three, h so, Metroid Dread. Half Live Alex

1343
01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:44.359
got number two on our Games of
the Year on twenty twenty oh. Me

1344
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.760
and Mary were pushing Oh, I
fucking loved Half Life or I was obsessed

1345
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.680
with that game. That was one
of the ones that to me was a

1346
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:56.399
was a VR seller. It was
the only reason I would play VR was

1347
01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:59.199
to play that Half Life game.
I very much want to play that.

1348
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:01.920
Store Wilder a Weird Year twenty twenty. Yeah, I want to rate our

1349
01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:08.039
twenty twenty number ten, Ghosts of
Sushima, number nine, Desperadoes three.

1350
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:12.359
I don't know if that's actually a
game. Yeah, Tony Hawks pro Skater

1351
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.880
one plus two, Number seven is
Super Meaga Baseball three, Hell Yeah,

1352
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:19.039
number six, Kentucky Route zero,
number five, Astros Play Room, Hell

1353
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:23.600
Yeah, number four, Last of
Us Part two three, Ori and The

1354
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:28.239
Will of the Wisps two, Half
Live Alex and one Haities Do Maternal was

1355
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:32.079
there. I'm just looking at the
games that came out that year. Yeah.

1356
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:36.239
See if I find our twenty twenty
one, what a rabbit hole.

1357
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:42.680
Yeah. I I love our picks
for Games of the Year, I think,

1358
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.119
and I stand by them, like
absolutely the ones we picked should have

1359
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:48.159
won. Oh here, okay,
wait, well, Kentucky Root zero was

1360
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:53.279
the one that was going up against
Haiti Era was trying. I was trying

1361
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:58.359
to get it higher that year,
and I miserably failed it. Just it's

1362
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:02.359
a hard sell for this, oh
one. If you were on Intellectuals,

1363
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:09.279
it could have been higher. But
I got our twenty twenty one. Here's

1364
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:13.880
here's our top ten. Number ten
is Death's Door. Number nine is Wilder

1365
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.600
Myth Nice. Number eight is Hitman
three Nice. Yeah We're seven is Halo

1366
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:26.520
Infinite. Number six is Chickory.
Number five resident Evil Village. OI reaction

1367
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:31.800
to Chickery is I helped you get
it, unbelievably over the fact that I

1368
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:35.760
got Game of the Year by any
fucking outlet is insane, dude, little

1369
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:39.840
indie bullshit game. There's eight million
of those games. It's what gave it,

1370
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.319
What gave a game? Who gave
a Game of the year. Fucking

1371
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.359
Giant Bomb and mid Max both gave
a Game of the Year, by my

1372
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:48.520
understanding, you watch someone play it
for fifteen minutes and you just didn't buy

1373
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:51.000
it, played half the game and
I was like, yeah, I guess

1374
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:57.600
that's cute whatever, Like let's just
cancer. Yes, indie games out there.

1375
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:00.199
It's another one of those. That's
why it's solvated, because it's better.

1376
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:04.439
You fucking like a million ass the
same ass games too. You're like

1377
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:09.000
a guy. You're like a game
with a guy just delivering shit's so boring.

1378
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:15.640
Wait yeah, wait what else?
Continue from Chickory. Number five is

1379
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:19.000
residentaval Village. I want to box
you right now. You'll kill me?

1380
01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:23.760
Do you do? You want to
murder on your hands? Jesus? From

1381
01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:30.760
Times is Nuts two Great Game.
Number three is Metroid Drid Greater. Yeah,

1382
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:35.920
yep. Two is Inscription Deserving it
deserving? Oh, inscription, What

1383
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:41.760
a beautiful game. That's a good
year. Because I don't think I disagree

1384
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.039
with the games. I don't disagree
with the number. I'm like so happy

1385
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:47.960
with that entire list. I will
say I had a lot of victories that

1386
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:50.479
year, Like I had a lot
of ones where like I argued a game

1387
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:55.359
to get up to the number it
deserved multiple times that year. I'm looking

1388
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:57.600
back at these and I feel like
there's not a lot of damn games that

1389
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.520
I've gotten up there. Like it
looks like I got Astro up to five,

1390
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:02.880
which is great, but you guys
got a bunch of your fucking shit

1391
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:05.560
up here, Like, I gotta
I gotta fight harder now, you're probably

1392
01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:09.960
like fighting for games from like nineteen
Dickty two that you were like. I

1393
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.439
played this a lot with my sister
and we were like, Okay, who

1394
01:33:13.479 --> 01:33:15.680
cares it didn't come out this year? She shot a rocket into a lake.

1395
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.720
Yeah, okay. Fast forward to
Game of the Year twenty twenty three.

1396
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:27.680
I think that Resident Evil five original
should be on this list. Literally

1397
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.960
was talking to Bok about this like
last night, saying that, like,

1398
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:33.319
this is i'm my punch out speed
running thing. Is clearly this midlife crisis

1399
01:33:33.399 --> 01:33:39.600
deal. Okay, some guys fucking
buy corvettes and have affairs. I'm just

1400
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:43.399
getting way too deep into a game
I loved when I was eight. It's

1401
01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:46.880
my midlife Christ all things consider,
that's probably a healthy midlife crisis. Yeah,

1402
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:50.960
yeah, I have no problem with
the Shark isn't barfing lightning. I

1403
01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:56.800
don't want to play this game.
That's that's a video game. That game

1404
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:01.479
was fun. Um But Dan,
well, no, I'll save Mike Tyson

1405
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.039
for the end. Mary, you
mentioned what else are you playing? Did

1406
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.760
you mention in Kulinati? How you
say it? Are you playing? I

1407
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.159
am not going to pronounce this correct. It's so funny that you said that.

1408
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:16.479
I've been calling it ink Illuminati,
which I think is wrong. It

1409
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:21.720
is let me, I want to
make sure do it do it justice in

1410
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:31.039
Kulinati. It's okay, it's inc
based, So Inculinati. Sure that also

1411
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:35.720
works with ink Illuminati because I think
it works on many levels. But it's

1412
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:40.680
wrong and I know that it's wrong. Okay. So it's medieval manuscripts once

1413
01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:44.479
again. So it looks like pentiment
at a glance. It does, and

1414
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:50.199
it's like darkest dungeon style turn base
turn party fighting, and it looks awesome

1415
01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:57.119
and it is pretty diabolical. You
are. There's some really interesting rules.

1416
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:04.039
I am playing against AI and the
idea is that I am drawing characters with

1417
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:10.399
a physical hand like i'd actually Oh, there's um, there's videos of real

1418
01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:14.960
people in this game, which I
love when games is it like yeah,

1419
01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:17.319
duck a muck on the DS where
you're drawing Daffy Duck and you see the

1420
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:26.640
hand shows a human hand come on
the screen and draw the characters that you

1421
01:35:26.840 --> 01:35:31.479
create. Yeah, you're picking your
your characters, and so I pick like

1422
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.680
the first thing you pick typically that
they're starting with as a dog. Um,

1423
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:41.079
the dog has swords. The dog
can you know, cut, but

1424
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:45.359
it can also be hurt. Um. And then you'll fight other creatures or

1425
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:48.720
characters. So the opposite will be
like maybe a bunny and they'll have a

1426
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:53.000
bow and arrow. And so the
first thing that happens is you're drawing your

1427
01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:58.960
dog and the enemy is drawing their
bunny, and the bunny gets an arrow

1428
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:03.039
and shoots her dog. And it's
pretty hard to watch your dog take damage.

1429
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:08.680
I saw a lot of dogs die, right, Oh, they die,

1430
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:13.319
and it is pretty brutal. I
do. Actually, I would like

1431
01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:16.119
to preface this that there is like
it's not horrible violence, but you are

1432
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:21.800
killing cats, bunnies, donkeys,
dogs, I mean they're all dying,

1433
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:26.000
so you do have to like be
okay with that. Um. It has

1434
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:29.319
a lot of brevity to it.
The donkey, like one of his moves

1435
01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:34.840
is a fart, and it um
debuffs other characters makes them blind, probably

1436
01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:40.479
because like the poop juice or something. So there's like a whole world of

1437
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.800
like jokes that are happening here.
But at the end of the day,

1438
01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:46.359
you're trying to clear the board and
be victorious, and you can do this

1439
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:50.239
in so many strange ways. There's
like totally different rules than any other term

1440
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:55.439
base I've ever played before. You
create your characters. They're fighting, but

1441
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:58.920
at the end of each turn,
you the hand also get a move,

1442
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:03.600
and you can move characters, and
you can push characters and they push to

1443
01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:09.520
the next available spot. So in
one of these turns, I had my

1444
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:18.680
character next to the edge, but
I was safe, and the AI had

1445
01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:24.399
their character push me off the ledge
and I died And I had like eighteen

1446
01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:27.720
HP. I had all this health, but because I didn't have anything behind

1447
01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:30.199
me, I got pushed right off
the edge of the earth. I guess

1448
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:35.760
it's like the book page and I
died. So it's pretty grueling to find

1449
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:40.359
out like how you can win and
lose. It also has very cute kind

1450
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:45.439
of jokes inside of it. Everything
that's happening is being transcribed in the book.

1451
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:47.399
So as I shoot somebody, as
they push me off the ledge.

1452
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.600
You will see text appear in the
background of the game written to say,

1453
01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:59.159
you know, Julius pushes you know, young Gilt off the edge to his

1454
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:05.399
demise, and so it's it's literally
being kept forever, all of these choices

1455
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:09.920
that I'm making, and it's being
written as if it's history, which is

1456
01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:15.119
pretty fun. Some of the characters, one of the cats, it has

1457
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:18.399
like a pope hat and if you
attack it, you become like a heretic

1458
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:23.479
or maybe like a demon, and
now you take more damage because you attacked

1459
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.720
a pope. You're not supposed to
attack a pope. So there's like all

1460
01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:31.680
these like fun rules that you're learning
while you're playing, of debuffs and buffs,

1461
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:35.760
who you should be attacking and why
to try and get through the world.

1462
01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:40.279
But I find the most fun part
is the hand because I get to

1463
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:44.039
decide whether or not I'm going to
buff a character, push a character.

1464
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:45.760
I can push anybody on the map
like left or right, which is really

1465
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:49.960
interesting, so I can move their
characters around that will benefit me. And

1466
01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:55.720
I can flick people, which gives
them damage. Obviously, it's kind of

1467
01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:59.159
like the little flick of God.
I can just like give someone five damage

1468
01:38:59.159 --> 01:39:01.960
if I don't like so lots of
choices in this game. I would say

1469
01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:06.199
this is very difficult for me because
it's so strategy based. My little brain

1470
01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:11.239
starts to melt. I played this
and literally set out loud. I think

1471
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:15.960
Mike would love this game, and
I think you should play this because it

1472
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:20.159
is It is such a strategy person's
dream, especially for someone who enjoys like

1473
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:25.880
a bit of a bit of lightheartedness
and cheekiness. It's it doesn't take itself

1474
01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:29.159
too seriously, but you do have
to think. I died multiple times,

1475
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:33.800
uh, you know, not fully
planning my path accordingly, and I was

1476
01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:38.359
killed I think three times in an
hour, and I lost my entire save.

1477
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:45.359
You have you have you heard of
the tabletop game called Root Root.

1478
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:50.399
Uh, it's like this. It's
like Civilization but violent in one woods,

1479
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:56.479
in one forest, and they're like
the foxes are fighting, the skunks are

1480
01:39:56.560 --> 01:40:03.880
fighting, the deer et c.
Someone described in Kulinati as Darkest Dungeon combined

1481
01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:10.039
with Pentiment visuals combined with Root.
I was like, those are three games

1482
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:12.560
I'm obsessed with. So I feel
like I would love this. I just

1483
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:15.000
have not gotten around to it.
It's also on game Pass if I'm not

1484
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:17.159
mistake, it is on game Pass. It's why I played it, because,

1485
01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:19.479
um I typically you should have bought
it. You should have bought it.

1486
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:25.119
I look for a game Pass before
I buy a game on Steam now,

1487
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.399
so I just check game pass first. My instinct on Monday's when I

1488
01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:32.000
stream is check game pass. If
there's nothing on game pass that really vibes

1489
01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:36.479
with you, buy something on Steam. That's my current system. But I

1490
01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:43.319
check game pass first so that I
don't kish it. You've changed. I

1491
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:45.199
just don't want to waste any more
money. Do you know how many games

1492
01:40:45.239 --> 01:40:47.920
I would bought on game Pass?
There was like eight last year. I'm

1493
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:51.800
we have to make a category for
it. Yes, it's horrid anyway,

1494
01:40:53.079 --> 01:41:00.720
fame has changed, Mary, I
think you should play Incaluminati Inclumla in column

1495
01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:05.720
atom Onowitz in Calumny. Listen here, mister Scarlet brow Let's let's you're here,

1496
01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:12.760
mister skip Hopodopolis. We got a
InCom I want to play it.

1497
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:18.479
I literally have a tab open in
my my vox Media Chrome page. Whatever

1498
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:23.880
you want to say. This game
is difficult for me to get into.

1499
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:29.359
It's hard because I'm not a turn
based strategy person. But I really like

1500
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:33.239
it. I'll try it um and
won't ramble too long in case my internet

1501
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:38.720
does start being dumb again. Did
you guys play Octopath Traveler one? Yeah?

1502
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:43.640
I liked it me too. Um. I know people criticize the story.

1503
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:46.119
I was like, what what why
are you going to these kind of

1504
01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:48.920
games for story? And the combat
was good, it was snappy, everything

1505
01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:54.640
looks great. Bomb put like two
hundred hours into it did like super duper

1506
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:58.399
super Final Boss ending or whatever,
like that game's awesome. The people that

1507
01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:00.840
say it sucks, okay, whatever
their own, But like, if you're

1508
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:02.840
gonna say it sucks, because if
it's scripting and it's story, and like,

1509
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:08.399
if you're going to s story anyway, you got amnesia and there's an

1510
01:42:08.439 --> 01:42:11.119
evil in the land, whatever,
it's like going to a picnic and being

1511
01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:15.239
pissed when the ants show up,
like whatever. So Octopath Traveler too.

1512
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:18.680
I've played two hours, so not
much. I'll keep it brief. I'm

1513
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:25.680
already liking it a bunch from what
I have talked to other people about at

1514
01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:30.399
Polygon who played more of it.
It really embraces the each different character is

1515
01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:35.680
kind of a different genre. So
I picked I started with Oswald. His

1516
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:41.800
whole genre at the beginning is a
prison break from this wintry wilderness, and

1517
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:45.479
then his is a whole revenge tale
because he was wrongfully accused of killing his

1518
01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:49.239
wife. I'm like, all right, awesome, I want that's like the

1519
01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:54.159
genre fiction I want. He's a
may age I start. He's got a

1520
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:58.000
muzzle on him in the prison so
he can't cast spells. Awesome. My

1521
01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:02.680
other coworker started with I forget like
the samurai stand in there's like a warrior

1522
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.920
print story in the desert. I'm
like, okay, awesome. So they're

1523
01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:11.720
basically just doing these different, like
entirely different JRPG genres, Like there's of

1524
01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:16.680
course the character with amnesia who's like
this whatever, like traveling the world to

1525
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.000
help people out. So which I'm
not to interrupt too much, but Live

1526
01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:23.439
Alive. It's interesting because like,
yes, yes, I noticed that with

1527
01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:27.239
Octopath and now knowing Live Alive I
didn't even know existed, but like that

1528
01:43:27.399 --> 01:43:30.279
was way older and having played the
Switch one, and it's like, oh

1529
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.840
shit, that concept of like here's
a bunch of different like genres piece meal

1530
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:35.880
that you can play like, which
is around for a while. It's exactly

1531
01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:40.239
what I wanted out of Octopath too. It's like, I want different,

1532
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:46.760
like a short story collection where like
the progression and equipment and inventory is shared

1533
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:50.279
and you're meeting new people and recruiting
a party. So so far, I'm

1534
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:54.960
loving. It's only two hours in, but I'm already doing like a like

1535
01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:59.479
puzzle solving I'm doing. I'm meeting
a bunch of people in this prison.

1536
01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:01.960
I'm getting ready to or I've broken
out at this point. It's great so

1537
01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:04.680
far, I want to keep playing
that. I'm playing on PS five.

1538
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:09.000
I kind of wish I had it
on Switch. But oh, I guess

1539
01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:12.039
I assumed it was like a Nintendo
first party thing. Is it? It's

1540
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.800
some place oxypath Traveler one was this
is on? This was on PS five

1541
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:19.119
Day one? Oh okay, who
so who makes? Is this like a

1542
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:21.960
third party thing? I just assumed
this was like a Nintendo thing. Uh

1543
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:29.159
No, Square Square Enix published.
What the hell's the name of the developer?

1544
01:44:29.720 --> 01:44:34.960
Then? Uh it starts with an
A? I believe Yeah, I

1545
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:39.279
just thought it was straight up Nintendo. I'm playing on PS five. It's

1546
01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:41.920
gorgeous. Um, I mean,
the PS five is not gonna like make

1547
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:45.439
this kind of graphical style saying that
much more. But MBR. But MBR

1548
01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:49.720
it's amazing. I wish it was
in VR. It's a choir is the

1549
01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:54.800
developer. Um but yeah, Square
Enix published. I want to keep playing

1550
01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:59.399
it. I same thing with like
the Bravely Default games. I'm not going

1551
01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:02.439
to these games the story. I'm
enjoying the long form grind and JRPG just

1552
01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:10.520
like kind of mellow upgrading these eight
different playable characters. Yeah, that was

1553
01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:13.680
my takeaway from Octopath. Is that
snappy as combat? Like I thought that

1554
01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:16.119
Brake system. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's like what Bravely Default

1555
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:21.600
kind of wanted to be with their
Bravely Default system. Um So I'm enjoying

1556
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:26.800
it. Lets well, I'm gonna
keep want to check that out. I'm

1557
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.880
about I've gotten two characters now I'm
going I started the far northeast on the

1558
01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:36.279
Snowy Island in a prison. I
went down southeast. It's it's a ring

1559
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:40.600
world again, so you collect people
as you're going. Sure, I've got

1560
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:44.560
two people. It's more of the
first game. People who dislike the story

1561
01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:47.159
of the first game are liking this
more from anecdotally what I've seen. But

1562
01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:51.880
yeah, I'm gonna keep playing it, right, I will check it out.

1563
01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:57.720
Yeah, Dan, I really really
really really want to play Like a

1564
01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:01.479
Dragon Nichian, but I have knocked
out the time. Oh it's really fucking

1565
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:08.439
good. Have you played they Aakaza? I've played Like a Dragon and sorry

1566
01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:10.760
I played. I know it's confusing, I played yet for those listening,

1567
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:14.159
I played Yako's a cull in Like
a Dragon, the turn based one from

1568
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:19.399
two years ago three and I started
Kiwami but then got sidetracked. Kiwami was

1569
01:46:19.399 --> 01:46:25.359
the remake of one. Well there's
Kiwami one and two, which a remix

1570
01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:27.800
one. I'm sorry I played.
Yak was A Zero, which was the

1571
01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:30.520
prequel. That's the one I played
all the way through. So that's the

1572
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:31.560
only Yaka is the game I've played
all the way through. But leg a

1573
01:46:31.680 --> 01:46:39.000
Dragon is eighteen sixties Japan Samurai era
kind of shit. Yeah, And my

1574
01:46:39.119 --> 01:46:42.000
main warrior was that it just wasn't
going to be goofy like yeah, because

1575
01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:45.159
A Zero was. But it's goofy
as shit. It is. There is

1576
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:48.720
there's a certain type of I don't
know how to describe it, like metal

1577
01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:53.399
gear is the only thing that has
really perfectly nailed it for me your words,

1578
01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:58.039
Like the main stuff is the most
deadly serious nukes and genetics and all

1579
01:46:58.079 --> 01:46:59.840
this stuff. It's just like the
end of the world, is it?

1580
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:01.760
And but then also like I'm whacking
off in a locker, you know,

1581
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:10.880
like like and the President. It's
like it's just the huge spectrum of like

1582
01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:14.960
the most serious shit to the dumbest
shit possible. And Yaka is one hundred

1583
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.800
percent that, Like I am way
invested in the story of yaks or like

1584
01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:24.760
a dragonation. And I'm also just
every fucking dumbass thing. Like I just

1585
01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:27.720
walk around the city and everybody that
comes up to me, I'm like,

1586
01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:29.600
yeah, tell me your whole deal. I want to I want to get

1587
01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:32.680
involved with whatever this weird side story
is. And that is so opposite of

1588
01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.239
how I usually deal with games.
I don't want to read textboxes, I

1589
01:47:35.319 --> 01:47:39.159
don't want to you know, hear
story stuff or whatever. With this game,

1590
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:43.039
it's all just so well done and
the tone is so right that like

1591
01:47:43.399 --> 01:47:46.880
the serious stuff is dramatic and awesome, and then this stupid stuff is so

1592
01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:50.680
weird and stupid that I can't help
but love every second of it. It's

1593
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:55.159
like there's it feels old. I
mean this game was a PS four launch

1594
01:47:55.319 --> 01:48:00.880
title. It was this game was
on PS three fourteen, it was twenty

1595
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:04.720
No. Eleven, no No twenty
fourteen. Yeah, because twent thousand and

1596
01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:11.720
fourteen was the was this Yeah,
twenty fourteen was PS four and Xbox One.

1597
01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:15.039
I think yeah, And uh so, I mean it feels old the

1598
01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:16.159
way that like all the Yakusi games, it all just kind of feels like

1599
01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:19.119
kind of jankie, like people like
talk to you all wooden and walk away

1600
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:23.640
the same way and everything like it
doesn't feel like a modern like like the

1601
01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.600
combat things like now we're in combat
time and it's like the combat is not

1602
01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:30.199
amazing or anything. It's hilarious that
you're just fucking shooting dudes in the face.

1603
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:33.359
Now. Yeah, you can do
a katana and a gun wild Dancer

1604
01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:36.159
mode. Yes, there's different modes
and wild Dancers the one. Yeah,

1605
01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:42.039
there's sword in one hand gun another. Yeah, there's strictly sword. There's

1606
01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:46.159
the brawler, which is your fists, just a gun, strictly guns,

1607
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:50.319
strictly sword, brawler just fists,
and then a wild Dancer. I kind

1608
01:48:50.359 --> 01:48:56.159
of like the idea of just the
gun running hilarious because there are some where

1609
01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:58.319
it's like if you're powered up enough
and you're just walking through a part of

1610
01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:00.520
town and all these like dorks,
like just these drunk assholes that Joe like,

1611
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:02.880
we're gonna fight. She was like, okay, great, the fight

1612
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:11.079
starts are just fucking dead. Brawler
is fun too because you can like pick

1613
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.520
them up and just throw them into
the river and ship like you just fuck

1614
01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:16.279
dudes up constantly in this game.
Um, dude, it's it's really good.

1615
01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:18.600
I'm and that's part of the reason
I haven't got to play a lot

1616
01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:24.479
of stuff recently is because I'm forty
hours into Like a dragonation and that's great.

1617
01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:29.039
Yeah, it's long, but I'm
super into it. It's the Yakisa

1618
01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:33.880
series is such a joy, and
I've only think I've played the Like a

1619
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:38.000
Dragon and I fell in love with
the idea of like all the different ways

1620
01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:41.000
you get to play. Um,
obviously you can play the game, but

1621
01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:46.199
you can also just like run around
and like get crane machines and deliver pizzas

1622
01:49:46.439 --> 01:49:50.520
and help out the local weirdos.
Um, there's like a dude who was

1623
01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:58.399
in his underwear that always was into
some kind of mister yes who could forget

1624
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:03.760
mister Levito, And I think like
those types of interactions made that game made

1625
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:11.399
the hours blow by, because it
wasn't me trying to achieve things and getting

1626
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:15.720
through the game. It was just
there was always something really exciting happening that

1627
01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:18.600
I had to investigate because it was
You're never board, you never board.

1628
01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:25.439
I'm busy saying what the fuck is
going on? Mary? This might speak

1629
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:28.399
to you because like it does have
all the little like random side things like

1630
01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:30.039
oh, not claw machines, but
you know, like that type of like

1631
01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.039
just a femeral just like oh,
I'm gonna do this thing very briefly or

1632
01:50:33.079 --> 01:50:36.680
whatever. But then there's a full
ass fucking star Do. There's a star

1633
01:50:36.760 --> 01:50:40.880
Do in this game. You get
a fucking farm and you get to like

1634
01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:45.039
there's a resident evil fucking uh at
tache Case system where you're like deciding like

1635
01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:47.880
I'm going to plant my dicons here
or my sweet potatoes here, my onions

1636
01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:50.840
here, and then like you're running
a business out of your fucking house where

1637
01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:56.199
people are ordering spinach and shit and
you're growing spinach and you're upgrading dog houses

1638
01:50:56.239 --> 01:51:01.119
and befriending dogs in the city,
and that is absolutely same game. Yes,

1639
01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:04.479
it's fucking awesome. It is.
And then like all these mini games

1640
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:08.439
to like cooks are like, oh, this guy wants this like specially prepared

1641
01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:12.479
pickled cabbage or whatever. I gotta
do this fucking mini game where it's like

1642
01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:17.800
it's pickled cabbage. It's it's so
fucking weird and fun. And in terms

1643
01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:20.840
of just never being bored, it's
like, if anything, it's just it's

1644
01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:26.520
so much game that I'm almost like, goddamn, I need to mainline this

1645
01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:29.840
story so I can play other games. But I want to do all this

1646
01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:31.800
other shit because yeah, you don't
want to you don't want to run through

1647
01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:36.199
it because it's so ridiculous and it's
kind of such a joy. You do

1648
01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:41.359
need to like enjoy that experience.
And I think if you only mainline the

1649
01:51:41.399 --> 01:51:45.079
story, you kind of miss the
joy that's in that world. Like what

1650
01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:48.239
kind of makes it so special is
is how stupid it is. Yeah,

1651
01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:50.760
you gotta find that time to like, you know, I've probably spent a

1652
01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:56.439
couple hours fishing, and there's a
fucking dope in the city who has been

1653
01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.319
fishing professionally for five years but never
caught a single fish, but his wife

1654
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:02.319
every day thinks that he's like going
out and like catching fish for the family.

1655
01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:04.680
But he's like, hey, dude, like I don't know how to

1656
01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:08.800
fish, and my wife thinks I've
been fishing professionally for five years. Can

1657
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:13.680
you, like, do you have
a fish you can give me? I

1658
01:52:13.760 --> 01:52:18.239
know? Um, what's his name? The tennis instructor who sucks and Jerry

1659
01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:23.600
has to pretend to lose to him
because he owes him because he owes him.

1660
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:29.119
Yeah, putty, I'm end of
season sixty. That's where I'm at

1661
01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:30.680
right now. The face Pan episode
is the last one I watch. Yes,

1662
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:36.359
We're the travel feels like an army's
night. Uh yeah, no,

1663
01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:42.520
Um, what is a Ryuga Gotoku
Studio? Yeah? I feel like they

1664
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:46.760
make Rock Star games in miniature in
a really good way, like these side

1665
01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:51.920
activities that still feel like that slice
of life that factors into the overall gameplay

1666
01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:56.840
loop rather than just feeling like this
ancillary thing that you could waste time with.

1667
01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:00.479
Yeah. I I talked about this
in the BombCast with My favorite character

1668
01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:01.920
in the game is fucking junk Boy. You guys know about junk Boy.

1669
01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:09.720
No, Boy's my favorite? Just
boy is this idiot kid? Oh he's

1670
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:12.560
that idiot. He'says, I think
he's on hard times, but he's got

1671
01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:15.600
all these friends who have toys and
he doesn't have any toys, and so

1672
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:17.039
he's like mister mister, Like every
time you see him, he's like,

1673
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:20.000
can you give me something that I
can turn into a toy. I need

1674
01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:23.800
to bring something to my friends to
show him I have a toy and you

1675
01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:26.560
can it literally opens your inventory and
it's like, what do you want to

1676
01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:28.880
give the junk boy? And it's
like, do I want to give him

1677
01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.199
this literal scrap of paper or a
bent screw or I'll just hand him a

1678
01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:35.720
fish or a carrot, like you
can just give him anything. And he's

1679
01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:40.199
like, this is the best fucking
ever. I love this. My friends

1680
01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:42.960
are gonna be so impressed. And
he runs up and next time you see

1681
01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:47.920
him, he's like, my friends
saw that carrot kicked ass so great because

1682
01:53:47.920 --> 01:53:50.119
I know whatever I give him,
it's like I need to clear out my

1683
01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:54.800
inventory anyway, and he's gonna love
this shit. I got it. That's

1684
01:53:54.840 --> 01:53:58.920
like number one on my backlog after
a Metroid Primarymaster. I think I'd like

1685
01:53:59.039 --> 01:54:01.000
a dragon is there? It's on
my Xbox one. Ready. I want

1686
01:54:01.039 --> 01:54:03.960
to talk about Metroid Primary Master.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1687
01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:09.119
yeah. I've been playing Matred Primary
Master. Have you both played it before

1688
01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:13.439
when it came out? And then
I also played through it all again like

1689
01:54:13.479 --> 01:54:15.720
two years ago, so it's pretty
fresh to my memory. I streamed it

1690
01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:18.479
all like two years ago, so
like it's very fresh in my head.

1691
01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.760
I've played it twice, finished it
once. I did not finish it until

1692
01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:26.239
I got the trilogy collection on we
on GameCube. I never finished. I

1693
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:30.960
got to like the underwater ship and
got annoyed. Yeah, there can be

1694
01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:33.720
some weird backtracking stuff. How are
you liking it? There's definitely some weird

1695
01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:39.520
backtracking stuff, and I do think
you have to like prepare yourself mentally.

1696
01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:44.279
I think I was surprised. I
think some people will listen to this story

1697
01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:46.119
and be like, well, that's
your fault. But like I beat the

1698
01:54:46.239 --> 01:54:51.479
boss, like the very first,
very original beginning bitch Boss, the ones

1699
01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:56.960
in the tubes with the sliding glass
doors. Right after that, there's a

1700
01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:59.560
timer that counts down to five minutes
and you got to get your ass out

1701
01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:02.399
of there. Well, I was
like probably taking my time and I wasn't

1702
01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:09.000
thinking properly. I didn't make it
out in the five minutes that is a

1703
01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:14.439
long timer. So for me to
not get out and it starts me back

1704
01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.680
out before the boss, I was
like, get the fuck out of here.

1705
01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:23.079
I have to redo this stupid glass
boss that I can do. Another

1706
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:27.920
five minutes to get out of here
can kind of suck you out, like

1707
01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:30.159
sucks out a little bit of the
joy of this game. But like,

1708
01:55:30.439 --> 01:55:33.279
once you get into the good parts, it is a joy to play.

1709
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.520
I will say, like for it
being what do they call it, like

1710
01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:42.520
the quality of life is higher and
they've like like pleased it. They haven't

1711
01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:45.840
done that for like saves, like
you're still skunked for like, if you

1712
01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:48.000
make a mistake, it's going to
be like when was the last time you

1713
01:55:48.079 --> 01:55:56.199
saved, you stupid bitch go o? Or is just like you okay yeah,

1714
01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:59.239
because there's like this specific rooms and
stuff you can go to and Sara's

1715
01:55:59.279 --> 01:56:01.760
auto saves for certain periods of time. And again, I think some people

1716
01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:05.319
will listen to this and be like
it's fine, like you're being a baby,

1717
01:56:05.479 --> 01:56:10.199
but I just didn't, Like I
do not like beating a boss and

1718
01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:13.239
playing five minutes and dying and then
being like do it again. It's just

1719
01:56:13.319 --> 01:56:15.600
like, why didn't it save after
that boss? Like, why are you

1720
01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:20.600
being such jerks to me? But
it's still a fantastic game. It's just

1721
01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:25.920
I think i'd compare that to Dread, and I would rather play Dread.

1722
01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:30.239
I feel like I know the thing
that's gonna blow me away is the first

1723
01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:32.520
time I put hands on it,
and like the dual analog sticks is because

1724
01:56:32.520 --> 01:56:36.000
I'm so used to like and I
love the controls of the first one.

1725
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:40.199
I know it's like dated now and
everything, so it's not doing analog stick,

1726
01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:43.119
but I thought that fucking lock on
everything that worked great. The platform

1727
01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:45.199
is great, but I know it's
going to feel so different playing that game

1728
01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.760
with two analog sticks, and I
can't wait. Like the idea of just

1729
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:54.880
like that being a playing game sounds
awesome to me. Yeah, we're flying

1730
01:56:55.920 --> 01:57:00.039
to or we have already flown down
to South Carolina, uh as of this

1731
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:02.840
recording, and I think that's gonna
be my playing game. It's either that

1732
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:10.119
or something on steam Deck, maybe
checking out wilder Man's updates. South Carolina.

1733
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:15.880
Where the where the bourbon flow,
the molasses, where the birds burb

1734
01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:23.359
glasses, where the bourbon flows like
the salmon of molasses. Whether where the

1735
01:57:23.399 --> 01:57:29.359
bourbon flows like the salmon of of
Capistrana, both having strokes. South Carolina

1736
01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:36.600
an ambulance. South Carolina. Where
where Los Angeles resides, where the gate

1737
01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:43.119
is all coming catch you off?
You don't have enough molasses. This is

1738
01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:50.479
true South Carolina, Asia of the
East Coast, the South Carolina. No

1739
01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:56.359
planes, go, get your train, get down. What Yeah? Um

1740
01:57:56.840 --> 01:58:00.640
so I might play Metroid Primary Master
on the flight if I can. Yeah,

1741
01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:04.479
coming up Metor It sounds good.
He said, you didn't do voices

1742
01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:09.479
anymore. I don't. I feel
it's been long enough now. I'm like,

1743
01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:13.399
maybe you can bring the voices back. No, I think you can

1744
01:58:13.479 --> 01:58:20.119
do it. No, No,
that's our Carolina. Okay some people.

1745
01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:24.319
Some people call it pergatar. Some
people call it heaven. Some people call

1746
01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:31.239
it hell. I call it.
I call it the Scandinavia, some Scandinavia

1747
01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:34.880
of molasses. I call it.
I call it molasses. I call it

1748
01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:46.319
the tributary of the molasses river weather
weather where we bleed. Bourbon seems unhealthy,

1749
01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:51.720
And the bourbon and the gadas and
the gates arise out of the tides

1750
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:57.479
on Myrtle Beach, and it's all
you can do to just and it's all

1751
01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:04.520
you can do to just to just
bleebir. It's so like it means a

1752
01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:09.399
lot to me because when I was
growing up, we didn't have a beach

1753
01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:11.399
in Ohio. If you want to
go to a beach, you had to

1754
01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:16.520
go to drive to Myrtle Beach in
Carolina. And that is such a ship

1755
01:59:16.600 --> 01:59:21.960
whole beach. It's just filled with
like really drunk people in southern party and

1756
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:26.520
it's the closest I've ever like had
to a beach. And it's just like

1757
01:59:26.720 --> 01:59:30.960
my memory of like going to Carolina
and just being like, oh, these

1758
01:59:30.039 --> 01:59:34.479
people are wasted and I am eight
years old and I would like to pick

1759
01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:39.640
up clams and I can't. I
feel like I didn't see the ocean until

1760
01:59:39.680 --> 01:59:43.479
I was like twenty something. Can
you get further from the ocean from the

1761
01:59:43.560 --> 01:59:46.119
beach and Kansas, No, I
don't think you can. Yeah, we're

1762
01:59:46.159 --> 01:59:50.960
going or we have China, I
guess. Right now, we're in North

1763
01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:56.119
Myrtle Beach, which apparently is the
less touristy part. I've never been to

1764
01:59:56.319 --> 02:00:03.960
any of it, So we'll see
North Carolina. That's nice. I couldn't

1765
02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:12.840
believe it. North Carolina. The
Russia of the East Coast. All right,

1766
02:00:12.880 --> 02:00:15.760
what else have you been playing?
Um? I won't go too deep

1767
02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:18.439
into it because I wrote a review. If you want to go read on

1768
02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:23.520
Polygon Company, So go into it
for a p length because I want to

1769
02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:26.199
talk about the next thing. You're
talking on? What is the next thing?

1770
02:00:26.239 --> 02:00:29.880
Oh? Okay, gotcha? Um
Mary, this is probably not super

1771
02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:31.439
up your ally, so I won't
Oh great, I'm so glad that he

1772
02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:38.239
is gone. Um. Have you
heard of Company of Heroes? Is it

1773
02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:41.560
war? It sounds like a war
thing. Yeah, so two thousand and

1774
02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:45.439
six Band of Brothers, Company of
Heroes, Groups of Boys? No,

1775
02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:48.920
so company Here's literally derives its name
from a quote from Band of Brothers.

1776
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:53.439
Oh good, so good. Yeah, you could have just played it off

1777
02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:57.600
like you knew. Um. Two
thousand and six, Relic Entertainment released it.

1778
02:00:57.680 --> 02:01:01.119
It was like one of the best
real time strategy games because it specifically

1779
02:01:01.239 --> 02:01:06.560
honed in and figured out ways to
make the path finding work with small squads.

1780
02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:11.760
So like in Command and Conquer,
are you just humoring me? No,

1781
02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:15.960
I'm listening, okay, Because it
is in Command and Conquer StarCraft Warcraft,

1782
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:18.920
you're actually commanding individual units to go
to a spot. This was a

1783
02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:23.079
squad that would actually take cover where
you sent them. Okay, that was

1784
02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:28.159
kind of revolutionary for the time.
Two comes along, I forget what year

1785
02:01:28.720 --> 02:01:32.720
two fourteen, maybe a while after, and that introduced like weather effects.

1786
02:01:33.119 --> 02:01:42.439
Three comes out yesterday or the twenty
second of February, and it is going

1787
02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:47.800
to the Mediterranean theater in World War
two. But crucially they added a campaign

1788
02:01:48.399 --> 02:01:59.880
map overworld strategy layer like Civilization or
Total War. You're actually looking at Italy

1789
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:04.560
from this god's eye, bird's eye
view, this godlike perspective, ordering your

1790
02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:08.800
armies around. When your armies clash
with other ones, then you jump into

1791
02:02:08.840 --> 02:02:14.680
the real time battles. So again
they're borrowing this page from the Total War

1792
02:02:14.800 --> 02:02:21.159
playbook. And additionally, you can
also midway through the action just straight up

1793
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:26.399
pause it. It's called the tactical
pause. Give orders to each of your

1794
02:02:26.439 --> 02:02:30.359
squads, your tanks, your anti
tank guns, your artillery squads. Give

1795
02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:35.079
orders in that tactical pause. Press
it again and they'll kind of disperse and

1796
02:02:35.840 --> 02:02:41.840
enact those orders as this wave like
Rainbow sixth style. So it's actually one

1797
02:02:41.880 --> 02:02:44.640
of the more it's the most approachable
game in the series in my opinion,

1798
02:02:44.680 --> 02:02:49.319
because it's not reliant on that fucking
StarCraft too tight to be like your APMs

1799
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:53.319
have to be on point. You
can actually take a moment and breathe and

1800
02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:57.600
think about what you need for your
troops. The graphics are pretty good.

1801
02:02:57.680 --> 02:03:02.119
Has this come a long way since
you're start into this series? Yeah,

1802
02:03:02.239 --> 02:03:06.000
in two thousand and six. The
first game looked good for the time,

1803
02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:12.520
but definitely has you know, not
aged super well, but this game looks

1804
02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:16.319
great. There's the North African campaign, which is the more traditional mission by

1805
02:03:16.399 --> 02:03:21.479
mission real time strategy. The British
forces are fighting Irwin Rommel, the Desert

1806
02:03:21.560 --> 02:03:28.840
Fox, the German famous German armored
commander. But then yeah, the Italian

1807
02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:31.960
campaign. The way that they use
that, you're just basically you can take

1808
02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:39.399
an airfield in Italy, so then
that unlocks more air strike capabilities in your

1809
02:03:39.479 --> 02:03:44.079
next battle, provided it's near that
airfield. But then you can send an

1810
02:03:44.119 --> 02:03:46.640
airborne company up to this next port
city, which will allow you to call

1811
02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:51.319
in more troops from your destroyers off
the coast, while you send this Indian

1812
02:03:51.479 --> 02:03:59.079
artillery company to just bombard the ship
out of this major crossroads city. So

1813
02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:03.359
it's not perfect whatsoever. A lot
of rough edges in this campaign. If

1814
02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:08.920
you're into Total War or Grand Strategy
games or four X games or anything that

1815
02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:15.000
Paradox has been publishing, then you
might find this Italian campaign lacking the AI,

1816
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:18.000
is super passive. They're not really
going to go out of their way

1817
02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:20.760
to fuck with you or attack you. They're just basically waiting for you to

1818
02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:29.279
come into range and then triggering these
borderline scripted missions. But the freedom with

1819
02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:31.720
which you can move armies around and
kind of decide which order you want to

1820
02:04:31.760 --> 02:04:33.840
do shit, and whether you want
to go up the East coast and link

1821
02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:36.359
up with the British invasion for us, or you want to just keep going

1822
02:04:36.439 --> 02:04:42.159
doing your own thing, going up
the west toward Naples and taking more ports

1823
02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:45.000
to bring people in. I like
it a whole bunch, and the tactical

1824
02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:49.880
pause makes it pretty easy if you're
like a veteran real time strategy player.

1825
02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:56.000
I will warn people to play out
on a higher difficulty, but it's great.

1826
02:04:56.159 --> 02:04:59.840
I like it a lot. Like
we talked about this with Hitman three.

1827
02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:06.000
Basically anything image and Form did and
now Image and Form is called thunderful.

1828
02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:12.560
I believe the Steam World devs.
I really really am a sucker for

1829
02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:15.880
devs that just like, no matter
how short, how much of a shore

1830
02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:20.439
bet a game could be, they
experiment. Regardless, Hitman three did that

1831
02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:25.079
three games into the series. It
kept being weird with Berlin with its final

1832
02:05:25.159 --> 02:05:30.159
mission and whatnot. Company Heroes three
could have just like they've already perfected their

1833
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:33.600
formula, they could have released The
third game sold pretty well within the strategy

1834
02:05:33.600 --> 02:05:40.479
community on the PC community, but
they added two huge editions and I think

1835
02:05:41.159 --> 02:05:45.399
they both work well. I think
the campaign map needs some work, but

1836
02:05:46.039 --> 02:05:48.680
I respect the shit out of it
and it's fun. I played the hell

1837
02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:57.159
out of it. Yeah, it's
good strategy games. They're they're so hot

1838
02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:00.319
right now. They're so hot right
now. Real time strategies. Death was

1839
02:06:00.399 --> 02:06:10.039
greatly exaggerated, just like Disco.
We just played Commoner again. Riddler two

1840
02:06:10.199 --> 02:06:12.960
is one of my favorite. I
played that world well. We talked about

1841
02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:15.479
that World War one game that the
Petroglyph folks are making. Oh yeah,

1842
02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:19.239
yeah, yeah, um yeah,
but Dan, you want to talk about

1843
02:06:19.239 --> 02:06:30.640
the packet Yeah, thoughts super cool. Um, obviously I'm only using cartridges

1844
02:06:30.680 --> 02:06:33.399
that I already own. But oh
no, you got top of the open

1845
02:06:33.479 --> 02:06:38.000
FPGA. Yeah, I mean you're
you're you're using backups of cartridges you already

1846
02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:41.439
own, using backups of cars as
I already own. It took me a

1847
02:06:41.600 --> 02:06:45.000
while, not a while, Like
it's pretty streamline compared to other stuff I've

1848
02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:50.000
used, like the odin pro is
fairly complex. I don't necessarily know how

1849
02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:55.880
to work with dolphin emulation kind of
stuff. Is it Dolphin No and Dolphins

1850
02:06:55.920 --> 02:07:00.439
GameCube? Yeah, yeah, Dolphin
emulation relator. So Dolphin was the like

1851
02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:05.479
working title of game Cubans that's like
the main emulator or a GameCube. It's

1852
02:07:05.520 --> 02:07:12.319
great. Um, but man,
yeah, the the pocket is it's great.

1853
02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:16.039
I've been playing the minished cap Um. I'm using it primarily right now

1854
02:07:16.159 --> 02:07:19.279
for just Gameboy, game Boy Color, game Boy Advanced, Zelda games.

1855
02:07:20.079 --> 02:07:28.079
UMM Ages on there Oracle of Ages
is fantastic. Yeah, um, Seasons

1856
02:07:28.159 --> 02:07:30.520
was fine. It was more combat
focus, but Ages has that like not

1857
02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:35.720
a time loop mechanic whatsoever, but
like time travel. Um. I like

1858
02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:42.680
that game a lot. But UM, I have not super dabbled in any

1859
02:07:42.760 --> 02:07:48.239
of the like filters like my couh. Chris Grant my boss is get sending

1860
02:07:48.279 --> 02:07:51.600
me some stuff like on how to
use certain filters and whether they work with

1861
02:07:51.760 --> 02:07:55.800
this system or that, or Hey, your boss's name's rhyme? Did they

1862
02:07:55.840 --> 02:07:59.880
realize that Chris Grant, Chris Plant, Yeah, Hardy and Mike McWord,

1863
02:08:00.399 --> 02:08:05.439
Oh wow, that we got Nicole
Clark. Is that part of the hiring

1864
02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:09.800
process there? Yeah, basically when
you get someone with an actually unique name.

1865
02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.399
Sorry, chat, you have a
name similar to theirs, you got

1866
02:08:13.479 --> 02:08:16.239
a good shot because we got to
fill out the twins in the sure,

1867
02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:22.119
of course, trying to think of
anybody because we have a symmatric Bill He's

1868
02:08:22.159 --> 02:08:28.479
great. That's a joke for like
forty people. That's good. Well Cross

1869
02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:31.039
not non insulting the size of Patrick
Gill's audience. I'm just saying the crossover

1870
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:37.359
between fire still is such a dumb
joke. Um any who, Hey,

1871
02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:45.279
help you play ninety four? Pelsey
Smark is also great? Y Um Claddy

1872
02:08:45.720 --> 02:08:52.439
Flyers though, Claddy Flyers, Yeah, it's not. Hey, Donkey Kong

1873
02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:56.000
ninety four minds supposed to be delivered
any day I bought it. Have you

1874
02:08:56.079 --> 02:09:01.199
played it? Mike, Donkey Kong
ninety four? Yes? Do you know

1875
02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:03.800
what it is? Nope? Okay, Mary, do you know? No?

1876
02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:07.039
All right? You know the Donkey
Kong right, I know, the

1877
02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.439
Donkey Kong to jump in the barrels, the old the jump in the barrels,

1878
02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:15.960
the three to four levels. It's
a classic. Of course, Mike,

1879
02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:18.079
if you got an analog pocket,
this is the ultimate analog pocket game.

1880
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:22.119
As much as I would like to
stream this game, I specifically save

1881
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:28.039
it for being drunk at like airport
lounges and playing this while drinking wine and

1882
02:09:28.119 --> 02:09:31.079
it's the best time of your life. It's a good time. It's starts

1883
02:09:31.199 --> 02:09:35.439
with just the Donkey Kong business that
you know and love, and then it

1884
02:09:35.560 --> 02:09:41.000
just goes fucking nuts and introduces a
bunch of like Mario bullshit that like before

1885
02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:43.680
Mario sixty four and stuff. It's
introducing like things that Mario can do later

1886
02:09:45.039 --> 02:09:48.039
in this fucking nineteen ninety four game
Boy game, stuff that you don't see

1887
02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:52.039
until way way later. Game Boy
game is introducing stuff that Mario sixty four

1888
02:09:52.239 --> 02:09:56.359
did and beyond, like just different, like like you know the thing where

1889
02:09:56.399 --> 02:10:00.159
in Mario sixty four where you like, you know, you change direction one

1890
02:10:00.199 --> 02:10:01.600
eight and jump, you do that
weird like kind of side flipping that started

1891
02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:05.600
in Donkey Kong ninety four. You're
playing as Mario and like there's a bunch

1892
02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:07.479
of you can walk on your fucking
hands, you can do all sorts of

1893
02:10:07.520 --> 02:10:09.600
weird hit you grab a hammer,
you can flip it up, climb ladder,

1894
02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:13.119
grab the hammer again. Like it's
it's crazy how much shit this game

1895
02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:18.039
does for nineteen ninety four and I
didn't. This is not some nostalgia thing

1896
02:10:18.119 --> 02:10:20.279
that I played when I was fucking
two years old. This is I did

1897
02:10:20.319 --> 02:10:24.760
not play this until it was on
the three DS virtual console, and I

1898
02:10:24.880 --> 02:10:28.119
had such an appreciation for it.
And now you play it on the analog

1899
02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:31.800
pocket screen looking Christmas hell, Save
States and all that. It is the

1900
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:37.319
ultimate analog pocket game. Please play
Donkey Kong ninety four and report your thoughts.

1901
02:10:37.439 --> 02:10:39.680
It is so fucking good. All
right, I'll look into it.

1902
02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:45.359
I probably have it, yeah,
I've got yeah, yeah yeah, it's

1903
02:10:45.399 --> 02:10:48.399
in my shoe box. Yeah yeah
yeah yeah. And I'm not even a

1904
02:10:48.479 --> 02:10:50.600
huge like like I like Donkey Kong, like I respect Donkey Kong, like

1905
02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:54.920
Dun Kong Junior and three and all
that, but like this one is like

1906
02:10:56.359 --> 02:11:00.319
important and cool and way ahead of
its time. All right, what's up

1907
02:11:00.319 --> 02:11:03.560
my alley, I'll check it out. I think you'll like it. Um,

1908
02:11:03.479 --> 02:11:09.000
Dan, you have a dual Sense
edge. Now, yes, very

1909
02:11:09.079 --> 02:11:11.920
briefly, I'll tell you about that. Sony sent the duel Sense edge over

1910
02:11:13.119 --> 02:11:16.159
along with the PSBR and uh,
look, I like the weight. I'm

1911
02:11:16.159 --> 02:11:18.680
a big pro controller guy. I
like the weight. I like my controllers

1912
02:11:18.680 --> 02:11:22.079
to feel heavy and you know,
nice, and it's got that. I

1913
02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:26.880
will say. The main thing I
love about this thing the nubs on the

1914
02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:31.680
back because the Elite controllers, I
typically with mine, I'll take the paddles

1915
02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:33.640
off a lot of them because it's
just like there's just a lot and they'll

1916
02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:37.720
fall off and it's just sometimes you
set it down and it's like, oh

1917
02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:39.600
fuck, it's just holding in the
A button or something like that. Um,

1918
02:11:39.880 --> 02:11:43.960
I love the Elite controller, but
it's just a lot of paddle business

1919
02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:45.760
going on in the back there.
Are you a fan of the nubs,

1920
02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:48.439
Dan? Well? Yeah, and
they have paddles like you can you can

1921
02:11:48.520 --> 02:11:52.239
choose to do paddles. It comes
with paddles, but then it also comes

1922
02:11:52.279 --> 02:11:54.640
to these little ass nubs which I'm
holding one at. You barely even see

1923
02:11:54.640 --> 02:11:58.600
it if you're watching the Patreon video. It's a nub. They're like half

1924
02:11:58.840 --> 02:12:01.159
of a PS three dome analog.
That's a great way to put it,

1925
02:12:01.279 --> 02:12:05.880
yeah, but grippier, Yeah,
and I click it easy. That's why

1926
02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:09.439
I used to switch between your your
profiles, because like right under the analog

1927
02:12:09.479 --> 02:12:11.119
sticks, you can just be like, okay, I'm playing Fortnite, so

1928
02:12:11.199 --> 02:12:15.439
boom boom boom, I'm now now
the nubs mean, this is Mark enemies

1929
02:12:15.439 --> 02:12:18.319
in Fortnite, and this is like
open chests or whatever you know, I

1930
02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:22.600
have. I have my profiles set
to dead space, woe, long Fallen,

1931
02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:28.840
Dinas or whatever and uh war frame
just different anal, different stick,

1932
02:12:28.920 --> 02:12:31.920
sensitivities, button layouts, et cetera. Well, and I think being able

1933
02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:35.800
to see what you're switching to on
screen is big because like you can do

1934
02:12:35.920 --> 02:12:37.199
that with the Elite. You can
hit the button and switch between like the

1935
02:12:37.279 --> 02:12:41.439
three of the lights will light up, but you don't see it on screen

1936
02:12:41.520 --> 02:12:43.000
really, so it's so nice to
see it, like, oh, I

1937
02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:46.479
named that profile Fortnite. I know
I'm switching to Fortnite. Okay, this

1938
02:12:46.640 --> 02:12:50.800
is Mark, this is whatever.
It feels great, Um, I don't.

1939
02:12:50.079 --> 02:12:54.159
I think it's weird that there's like
two different buttons underneath the analog sticks

1940
02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:56.119
for the functions because like, I
feel like there could be a more efficient

1941
02:12:56.279 --> 02:13:01.239
use of those rather than like two
things for switch profiles. That seems a

1942
02:13:01.279 --> 02:13:03.720
little weird. I wish you could
like customize. Maybe there is a way,

1943
02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:05.640
but I haven't seen a way to. Like, Okay, I wish

1944
02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:09.359
the one end of the right analog
stick I could customize to be its own

1945
02:13:09.399 --> 02:13:11.800
button. As far as I've seen, there's not a way to do that,

1946
02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.640
but I haven't found one. I
think I just took it as like

1947
02:13:15.560 --> 02:13:18.640
certain games, you'd never want to
take your thumb off the right analog stick,

1948
02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:22.760
so you'd be more likely to use
the left nub other games, vice

1949
02:13:22.880 --> 02:13:24.880
versa. So you need right now
for it if you're going like deep Esports

1950
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.600
level, like I could see how
maybe that's useful, but yeah, or

1951
02:13:28.760 --> 02:13:33.000
like oh shit, I'm fighting a
boss and elden Ring and I'm still in

1952
02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:37.520
my dead Space settings. Oh I
use it for elden Ring on the inventory

1953
02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:39.680
or the dodge in the inventory.
And then yeah, Dodgin sprint, so

1954
02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:43.319
like be I put on this and
it's just like that help I did for

1955
02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:48.800
WOA long. Okay, so like
game do that and then the controller the

1956
02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:50.720
trigger throw stuff is great, you
know, the Elite has that as well,

1957
02:13:50.840 --> 02:13:56.039
so overall it just feels great.
It's an improvement for sure. Um

1958
02:13:56.079 --> 02:14:01.039
it's the battery life thing is a
bummer, Like it's like less than two

1959
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:05.680
hours. Like the duals. The
dual shock was dual sense. What's what's

1960
02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:09.439
the dual sense? Okay, the
dual sense is already pretty bad. This

1961
02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:13.960
one you have to recharge a lot
more. But it's a good controller.

1962
02:14:13.279 --> 02:14:16.920
Yeah, I've been doing good Bye
a bit. Love the nubs. I

1963
02:14:18.039 --> 02:14:26.640
love those nubs. You what's the
what's the update on Mike Tyson? I'm

1964
02:14:26.680 --> 02:14:31.760
in the dark period now of my
quest. It is uh first of all,

1965
02:14:31.880 --> 02:14:35.039
I've dropped since last time. I
was fifty four last time, I

1966
02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:41.800
am now fifty five because this motherfucker
Jordan Jones is now forty six. Fucking

1967
02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:46.079
incredible. If it's like this fucker
what m kish one? Could that be

1968
02:14:46.119 --> 02:14:50.880
amazing? Five days ago, Jordan
Jones set a time of twenty minutes eight

1969
02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:54.800
seconds, and uh so it was
pushing back to fifty five. So I

1970
02:14:54.880 --> 02:14:58.000
got some work to do, and
all I've been doing for the last week

1971
02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:03.600
for at least an hour more realistically
two plus hours a day. Last night

1972
02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:05.960
I was going until like after two
in the morning, Tyson, over and

1973
02:15:07.159 --> 02:15:11.079
over and over trying to get that
round one tko hardest thing I've ever done

1974
02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:13.479
in the video game. I've gotten
so close so many times. I know

1975
02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:16.079
it's possible. Once I do it, breaks it open, I can possibly

1976
02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:22.159
get into the part of the leaderboards. But I've tried him thousands of times

1977
02:15:22.239 --> 02:15:26.279
now and I cannot take him down
round one. That's the main thing.

1978
02:15:26.479 --> 02:15:30.600
That's the thing that's hold me back, so still at it every single day.

1979
02:15:30.760 --> 02:15:33.560
The leaderboard is not really moving.
I'm actually I'm I've got like a

1980
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:37.079
fucking twenty page script I've written in
the last couple of nights of I want

1981
02:15:37.079 --> 02:15:37.960
to do like a one oh one
for like, Hey, if you want

1982
02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:41.439
to get into speed running, Tyson, here are starter things. This is

1983
02:15:41.479 --> 02:15:45.920
not going to get you, like
I realize I'm number fifty five in the

1984
02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:48.039
world, Like, who wants to
listen to the number fifty five in the

1985
02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:50.880
world say how to start this thing? But I'm not trying to get you

1986
02:15:50.000 --> 02:15:52.880
to like number one. I'm trying
to get you to like, if you

1987
02:15:52.960 --> 02:15:56.680
want to get into this which is
very, very rewarding, here are some

1988
02:15:56.880 --> 02:16:00.600
like here's a solid foundation that you
can look to the where you can look

1989
02:16:00.600 --> 02:16:03.479
to the people that are way better
than me and build upon that. But

1990
02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:05.760
I want to give you like a
one video where I can like teach you

1991
02:16:05.840 --> 02:16:09.199
all the basic strategies and everything.
So I've been working on that editing that

1992
02:16:09.479 --> 02:16:13.319
the last few nights. I hope
to have that up and I want to

1993
02:16:13.560 --> 02:16:15.600
beat them round one before I put
that video up. Do you want to

1994
02:16:15.600 --> 02:16:18.800
be able to have that fucking clip? Do you know what you need to

1995
02:16:18.399 --> 02:16:22.960
do differently to not ties in round
one? Well? No, it's it's

1996
02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:26.199
it's it's pure execution. Like the
thing is, there are a lot of

1997
02:16:26.239 --> 02:16:30.039
these fights that are so complicated and
so many that there's flow charts, there's

1998
02:16:30.079 --> 02:16:33.479
all sorts of crazy fucking things that
you can you can analyze and you can

1999
02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:37.319
manipulate the RNG and all that stuff. Tyson is not that. Tyson is

2000
02:16:37.719 --> 02:16:41.040
pure execution. There are two phases
to it, and the round one is

2001
02:16:41.280 --> 02:16:45.719
three minutes long. The first half
of it is the uppercuts and you just

2002
02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:50.200
got a one two punch and I've
literally this is how fucking that I'm getting

2003
02:16:50.200 --> 02:16:54.360
with this stuff. Now, I'm
watching clips of tool assist a speed runs,

2004
02:16:54.399 --> 02:16:56.520
which means it's literally perfect, and
I'm trying to like memory, I'm

2005
02:16:56.559 --> 02:17:03.040
closing my eyes and trying to memorize
the pacing one two, one two,

2006
02:17:03.200 --> 02:17:05.399
and I'm trying to do it so
much that when I'm playing, I can

2007
02:17:05.440 --> 02:17:09.360
automatically do that. I literally want
to fucking get an MP three of like

2008
02:17:09.440 --> 02:17:15.280
a metronome with just that fucking timing. I want to sleep with headphones on

2009
02:17:15.680 --> 02:17:18.239
just to burn it into my fucking
brain so I know the timing when I'm

2010
02:17:18.280 --> 02:17:22.680
playing. I wanted to become an
automatic reflex, but it's so fucking hard.

2011
02:17:22.799 --> 02:17:26.719
For the first minute and a half, you have to one two,

2012
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:30.399
one frame beyond, and he's gonna
block it one frame early. You're not

2013
02:17:30.440 --> 02:17:33.399
getting the damage, and then you
gotta do a bunch of perfect shit afterwards

2014
02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:35.760
if you want to do it.
It's just I've been so fucking close so

2015
02:17:35.840 --> 02:17:39.559
many times, and I know I
can do it, and it is like,

2016
02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:43.120
literally my hand I was laying on
the couch before this podcast, laying

2017
02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:46.040
on the couch with two ice gloves, two gloves that have been sitting and

2018
02:17:46.120 --> 02:17:50.959
a fucking freezer that you put on
your hands, and they're painfully cold and

2019
02:17:50.040 --> 02:17:54.040
I just lay there. I'm fucking
in physical therapy now. I moved from

2020
02:17:54.040 --> 02:17:56.559
my back because my back is feeling
all right now. For I'm like,

2021
02:17:56.639 --> 02:17:58.200
literally, just work on my four
arms and hands. That's all they're doing

2022
02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:03.479
three times a week is working on
my fucking hurting hands and forearms. Because

2023
02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:09.360
I'm doing this so far from your
gaming from Tyson, It's just insane.

2024
02:18:09.920 --> 02:18:13.840
I've been fighting this motherfucker for thirty
something years and I'm still working on it.

2025
02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:20.280
It's like creator Flash, Oh,
don't you do that car, Mike.

2026
02:18:20.399 --> 02:18:24.760
You gotta get you in your lamb
though barrels clean, fine, honey

2027
02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:33.559
Spinney. It was queen only pranks, kind of booan Queen Old Pecan eat

2028
02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:41.280
honey Boo boo boo bath goose cap
booo in dejected weird. I'm getting kind

2029
02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:46.479
of hyped up here, you know, I'm getting I'm making myself. Yeah,

2030
02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:50.200
everyone's excited. I'm gonna drive around
tonight and think about my life,

2031
02:18:50.920 --> 02:18:56.000
think about Tyson. Yeah. So
that's my update is that I just have

2032
02:18:56.120 --> 02:18:58.639
a long ways to go. I
know I've got it in me to get

2033
02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:03.559
much higher than I am on the
Leader Awards. But what are you saying?

2034
02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:07.760
Good fellows like that was the bad
time, the salad days, the

2035
02:19:07.959 --> 02:19:13.920
salad days, salads when you're setting
new Pepe's all the time because you suck

2036
02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:16.760
and you got room to improve on. Now I got most other fights in

2037
02:19:16.799 --> 02:19:20.280
a pretty good spot. It's just
fucking Tyson. Wait, how do you

2038
02:19:20.479 --> 02:19:24.799
do you have like save states to
can't start runs? Right? But do

2039
02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:28.959
you have save states to start out? To practice against Tyson? So when

2040
02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:33.079
I practice, I saved state at
the start screen because if I beat him,

2041
02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:35.840
I want to be able to submit
because like very few people have been

2042
02:19:35.879 --> 02:19:37.920
able to beat Tyson round one,
and so I would like to at least

2043
02:19:37.959 --> 02:19:41.520
like there's a separate leaderboard for people
who have done that, and I would

2044
02:19:41.559 --> 02:19:43.879
like to if I do it,
get on that. So I can't save

2045
02:19:43.959 --> 02:19:46.520
state at the beginning of the fight. If I want to get on that,

2046
02:19:46.600 --> 02:19:48.959
you have to start from the title
screen, right. But you said,

2047
02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:52.200
like all you've been doing lately is
practice against Tyson. So you're typing

2048
02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:56.760
a code. There's the code,
Okay, that's free, so yeah,

2049
02:19:56.799 --> 02:19:58.239
but it takes a while. You
can load it up. You have very

2050
02:19:58.399 --> 02:20:01.520
very watched the thing and then I've
seen this thousands of times. You got

2051
02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:03.520
away from the dance down to the
ring or whatever. I wish I could

2052
02:20:03.520 --> 02:20:07.639
say, stay right to when Mario
says fight, But yeah, you gotta

2053
02:20:07.639 --> 02:20:09.399
go to the whole ring of role
Jesus. I mean, it's a lot,

2054
02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:13.120
man, It's a big part of
my fucking day every day. And

2055
02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:18.760
blood born bosses where I had,
like I probably fought them, all right,

2056
02:20:18.760 --> 02:20:22.959
I did the thing in a bloodborn
What boss was it? I forget

2057
02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:28.840
or no securo. I was trying
to beat that boss in the first fight.

2058
02:20:28.040 --> 02:20:31.079
You're technically not supposed to. You're
supposed to. It's an early boss

2059
02:20:31.079 --> 02:20:33.559
fight. You're supposed to be right. Yeah, yeah, I think I

2060
02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:39.479
fought him two hundred times. That's
nowhere near what it sounds like. You

2061
02:20:39.559 --> 02:20:43.840
what you're doing. It's a lot. It's a whole lot to kill you.

2062
02:20:43.399 --> 02:20:46.159
It feels good, though, it
honestly feels good as much as it's

2063
02:20:46.200 --> 02:20:50.000
like you you feel so defeated some
nights going to bed where it's like you

2064
02:20:50.079 --> 02:20:52.559
just want to stay up, but
like you're you're literally falling asleep in the

2065
02:20:52.639 --> 02:20:56.000
chair. It's a I now it's
gonna be worth it. It's I can

2066
02:20:56.040 --> 02:21:01.360
feel myself getting better every time.
But God damn it. It is far

2067
02:21:01.600 --> 02:21:03.959
and beyond the hardest thing I've ever
done. To be a game. Yeah,

2068
02:21:03.959 --> 02:21:07.280
I'd be definite right three and every
difficulty several times, I fucking like

2069
02:21:07.559 --> 02:21:09.879
beat a bunch of rum or.
Now i'd be blood Borne Eldon Ring,

2070
02:21:09.920 --> 02:21:11.159
not a bunch of them. But
like I've played a lot of hard games,

2071
02:21:11.319 --> 02:21:16.079
this is so far beyond any of
that. It's so much more demanding.

2072
02:21:16.559 --> 02:21:20.559
I'm really proud of you, Dan, you sound really addicted in a

2073
02:21:20.680 --> 02:21:24.600
good way. I think I feel
like I'm kind of like destroying my you

2074
02:21:24.680 --> 02:21:30.440
know. Yeah, I'm motivated,
so happy for you. Thank you.

2075
02:21:31.319 --> 02:21:41.280
I'm thriving your obsession, complete addiction. Do you guys want to do some

2076
02:21:41.680 --> 02:21:46.200
electronic mails? Yeah? Do it
okay? As always, you can write

2077
02:21:46.239 --> 02:21:48.799
into firescape cast at gmail dot com
for any questions, concerns, comments,

2078
02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:54.680
corrections. I read the corrections.
I don't care about them. They go

2079
02:21:54.760 --> 02:22:00.280
in one ear out the other in
one eye out my ass. No,

2080
02:22:00.360 --> 02:22:03.200
I'm just kidding. It's fine unless
I asked for corrections. As the Greeks

2081
02:22:03.239 --> 02:22:11.639
say, in my eye out my
ass's the old ancient Hammarabi code. Um

2082
02:22:13.600 --> 02:22:16.479
Fire skate cast at gmail dot com. You can write in Dan before we

2083
02:22:16.520 --> 02:22:22.319
get into emails. Tell them what
they can do on Spotify. Go to

2084
02:22:22.440 --> 02:22:26.680
the Spotify it's the big audio app, and that's where everyone listens to their

2085
02:22:26.760 --> 02:22:30.360
music and their podcast everything. You
give us the five stars there. Look,

2086
02:22:30.559 --> 02:22:31.159
that's a good way. Like,
if you don't want to give us

2087
02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:33.360
money, that's fine. You don't
want to do anything, that fine,

2088
02:22:33.360 --> 02:22:35.559
don't give us the five stars.
If you look, you don't want to

2089
02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:37.159
click a couple of things. But
if you want to click a couple of

2090
02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:39.440
things, you're taking a shit.
You got a couple of moments. Give

2091
02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:41.879
us the five stars. It helps
us out and doesn't cost you damn cent.

2092
02:22:43.280 --> 02:22:46.600
If you're shitting, you better be
hitting five stars. That is Mary.

2093
02:22:46.680 --> 02:22:48.239
That was so concise and so much
better than what I said. You

2094
02:22:48.360 --> 02:22:52.040
gotta start throwing a marry like,
yeah, she's better, Mary. Where

2095
02:22:52.079 --> 02:22:56.719
can they go if they want to
give us four stars? They can go

2096
02:22:56.879 --> 02:22:58.799
to some other podcasts. I don't
know. You name one I don't know.

2097
02:23:00.040 --> 02:23:03.120
To us, it's just different names. Typically, oh right, we

2098
02:23:03.399 --> 02:23:05.360
go by many names. We go
by the Besties, we go by the

2099
02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:13.000
resties, we go by kind of
Funny dot Com. We go by Minas.

2100
02:23:15.879 --> 02:23:20.000
Oh all of our friends basically that
are us just shit on all of

2101
02:23:20.040 --> 02:23:22.479
our closed personal friends. I love
what every time Mike asks me to lie

2102
02:23:22.559 --> 02:23:28.079
and I just like absolutely melt.
You know what's Lucy's new podcast? Go

2103
02:23:30.280 --> 02:23:35.399
to her? What a jerk that
Lucy? We love her? Go give

2104
02:23:35.440 --> 02:23:39.879
her less if you don't like us. It was literally just while I was

2105
02:23:39.959 --> 02:23:41.280
being texting, Greg Miller read how
he did a really good job on a

2106
02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:46.760
recent thing. What guy? No, he did a ratings reveal thing and

2107
02:23:46.920 --> 02:23:50.760
he did a very good jobs as
a superstar. He's doing excellent work.

2108
02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:56.799
I saw him fall on a PlayStation
VR box and it was so real.

2109
02:23:56.079 --> 02:24:01.959
I couldn't believe it. I should
see this same. It's it's very real.

2110
02:24:01.440 --> 02:24:07.639
It feels Authenticue Mary, do you
want to read the first email from

2111
02:24:07.719 --> 02:24:22.000
Tom from Wales? Um? Yeah, yeah, I'm prepared. Hi,

2112
02:24:22.159 --> 02:24:31.600
Fire Escape love the podcast. I've
been listening and laughing last he didn't write

2113
02:24:31.680 --> 02:24:37.239
that. I'm sorry. I've been
drinking this bottle of wine. You guys

2114
02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:43.319
know I don't drink a lot of
wine like oh Man, wine drunk is

2115
02:24:43.360 --> 02:24:50.280
good. That's that first leaf.
It's been listening and laughing since episode number

2116
02:24:50.360 --> 02:24:54.520
one, So thanks for all you
do, smiley face. The other day,

2117
02:24:54.559 --> 02:24:58.840
I was watching the most recent Resident
Evil film, Welcome to Raccoons,

2118
02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:03.680
and I couldn't help but notice that
the actor who plays Chris Bardfield, who

2119
02:25:03.799 --> 02:25:09.760
is Robbie Amel, bears a striking
resemblance to a certain Mike Mahardy. Oh,

2120
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:16.840
let's google. Hopefully you guys agree
with me. Oh yeah. After

2121
02:25:16.000 --> 02:25:20.239
I noticed this, I started to
imagine what would be like if Mike was

2122
02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:24.319
actually playing Chris in the movie.
There's probably been a lot of corny one

2123
02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:28.879
liners like did you check his pulse
and take that you dick. For the

2124
02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:33.159
record, I would one percent watch
that. I would too, I absolutely

2125
02:25:33.239 --> 02:25:39.120
would watch that. I didn't realiz
see Stephen Mill's brother. Okay, we're

2126
02:25:39.120 --> 02:25:41.000
going down a rabbit hole here.
Oh, this guy does kind of look

2127
02:25:41.040 --> 02:25:45.120
like Mikey. I would say,
I can see it. This guy has

2128
02:25:45.159 --> 02:25:48.639
like darker hair, but he's got
your chiseled chin. But anyway, so

2129
02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:54.920
I'm gonna be Toma. So my
question to you all is, if you

2130
02:25:54.040 --> 02:25:58.879
had to pick one video game character
to play in a film or TV adaptation

2131
02:26:00.040 --> 02:26:03.959
in who would it be? M
Why doesn't necessarily have to be someone you

2132
02:26:03.079 --> 02:26:09.040
look like just someone you think you
could bring to life on screen. Many

2133
02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:11.639
thinks and best wishes, Tom from
Wales's UK. That's a very cool question.

2134
02:26:11.840 --> 02:26:16.760
I like that question is. Yeah, this is an obvious one and

2135
02:26:16.840 --> 02:26:18.799
it's an easy one. But I
would have a lot of fun playing Wallowigi.

2136
02:26:20.680 --> 02:26:24.360
Like I don't look like him,
but just the idea of just chaos

2137
02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:30.159
for chaos sake and nothing else deeper
than that is like I relate to Wallauigi

2138
02:26:30.280 --> 02:26:35.040
and I would like to play him. Yes, I don't know who i'd

2139
02:26:35.159 --> 02:26:43.079
want to play. Mary. You've
probably heard you look like Alloy. Oh

2140
02:26:43.639 --> 02:26:46.920
I've never thought about that. That's
cool. Um, I appreciate you saying

2141
02:26:46.959 --> 02:26:50.360
that, because I think she's pretty
hot. But I think, um,

2142
02:26:50.840 --> 02:26:58.559
that's not why we are discussing this. I think it's I think I think

2143
02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:03.799
no, I can go. I
wouldn't want to be her because that sounds

2144
02:27:03.799 --> 02:27:07.120
like a really tough life where I'm
like constantly battling like animatronic animals and like

2145
02:27:07.360 --> 02:27:11.760
dealing with like people's problems. Who's
like, oh, we don't have enough

2146
02:27:11.879 --> 02:27:13.159
like water, and it's like,
well, you should have thought that before

2147
02:27:13.200 --> 02:27:18.840
it became peasants. I think that
I would like to be Cat from Gravity

2148
02:27:18.959 --> 02:27:24.760
Rush, because oh, that is
such a cool skill to be able to

2149
02:27:24.879 --> 02:27:30.879
alter my gravity and go upside down
and constantly like change gravity to be able

2150
02:27:30.920 --> 02:27:35.159
to go to really interesting locations.
I also think Kat is like a character

2151
02:27:35.239 --> 02:27:39.319
I really identify with because she's got
like unbelievable skills. But at the end

2152
02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:43.319
of the day, her goal is
like, I would like my house that

2153
02:27:43.639 --> 02:27:48.200
is in the sewer to look nice, and I would like it to have,

2154
02:27:48.719 --> 02:27:52.200
you know, a lamp by my
bed to say very often, that's

2155
02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:56.079
my goal, which is like I
don't need these lofty dreams, but it'd

2156
02:27:56.079 --> 02:28:00.159
be really nice if my sewer house
had like a matching bedset. You know.

2157
02:28:00.239 --> 02:28:03.360
That sounds nice and that's something I
can achieve. Also I can go

2158
02:28:03.440 --> 02:28:05.920
upside down. Does she have like
pets and stuff? She does? She

2159
02:28:05.959 --> 02:28:11.360
has a cat. I just feel
very connected to Cat in many ways.

2160
02:28:11.399 --> 02:28:16.200
I actually Um dressed as Cat one
of the halloweens. I like to do

2161
02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:20.399
that. M I like to try
to like Um, you know, cause

2162
02:28:20.479 --> 02:28:24.159
plays like people that I feel like
are really I like identify with and enjoy.

2163
02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:28.280
But that game is really cool.
For anyone who's ever played Gravity Rush,

2164
02:28:28.360 --> 02:28:31.719
it's super fun to be able to
alter gravity so that you can get

2165
02:28:31.000 --> 02:28:35.760
into like really weird nooks and crannies. There's lots of stuff that you can

2166
02:28:35.840 --> 02:28:39.760
collect in all the different places and
hidden gems which I enjoy, like finding

2167
02:28:39.799 --> 02:28:43.079
the secrets in the space. But
it's a very you know, she's just

2168
02:28:43.200 --> 02:28:48.559
in a very endearing character because she's
not super she's not super smart. She's

2169
02:28:48.600 --> 02:28:52.799
just a kind person that's doing her
best, and she's like kind of dirt

2170
02:28:52.879 --> 02:28:56.559
poor and like trying to get by, and so her goal is like to

2171
02:28:56.680 --> 02:28:58.719
have a house with a bed,
you know, like that's her goal.

2172
02:29:00.000 --> 02:29:03.440
And I just find her very endearing. So I would be her, and

2173
02:29:03.600 --> 02:29:07.120
I would Um, I would probably
rock that character. And I would really

2174
02:29:07.239 --> 02:29:11.840
enjoy being strung up to a bunch
of wires and going upside down a lot

2175
02:29:13.280 --> 02:29:18.319
underrated game. I think absolutely,
Mike, you've had time, and I

2176
02:29:18.399 --> 02:29:22.920
feel like you've been noodling. I
can tell your noodle face because you have

2177
02:29:22.000 --> 02:29:24.879
these six squinny eyes and you touch
your beard, which is such a thinking

2178
02:29:24.959 --> 02:29:35.239
man's thing to do. Um,
what character would you be? Count Noctilus

2179
02:29:35.000 --> 02:29:46.840
from Warhammer Specific He's a he's a
pirate zombie undead captain and he rides around

2180
02:29:46.000 --> 02:29:52.280
this bipedal mech with cannons for arms
that's made out of the wrecked hull of

2181
02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:58.879
a ship's flotsam and jetsam and uh. He his whole thing in Warhammers,

2182
02:29:58.879 --> 02:30:01.920
Like he doesn't care about the war
is going on. He's just going around

2183
02:30:01.959 --> 02:30:05.920
trying to cause chaos along the coastlines
and be a pirate and search for treasure.

2184
02:30:05.840 --> 02:30:09.399
I just really enjoy playing him in
Total War Warhammer three because he's not

2185
02:30:09.559 --> 02:30:15.079
really concerned with the affairs of men
and elves and dwarves and demons. He's

2186
02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:20.959
just more he's just more into being
a rack on tour on the high on

2187
02:30:22.040 --> 02:30:28.760
the high seas. But my real
answer is Travis touchdown from No More Heroes.

2188
02:30:30.440 --> 02:30:33.479
I think I could pull off.
I think I could do it though.

2189
02:30:35.600 --> 02:30:39.760
Yeah, I could see that it'd
be good. Yeah, Pseudo would

2190
02:30:39.760 --> 02:30:43.200
be into it. Pudo wants me
to play him, he wishes I would

2191
02:30:43.200 --> 02:30:46.000
play him. I feel like there's
a lot of characters I couldn't pull off,

2192
02:30:46.159 --> 02:30:54.799
but it would be fun to play
um Tiny Tina or something like that.

2193
02:30:54.959 --> 02:30:56.319
Like I don't think I could like
carry the weight of that, but

2194
02:30:56.440 --> 02:31:03.399
that would be really fun. I'd
be so much to have to like that

2195
02:31:03.680 --> 02:31:09.319
energy. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
be able to do it. Everyone,

2196
02:31:09.520 --> 02:31:13.360
like the critics would eat me alive
and be like, what a bad actress

2197
02:31:13.559 --> 02:31:18.399
that was? Holy shit, she
did not deserve that role. Um.

2198
02:31:18.600 --> 02:31:22.600
I would never be able to convey
it. I'm just saying I would have

2199
02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:26.120
a good time on set, just
saying I would. I would be like

2200
02:31:26.920 --> 02:31:31.600
excited to come to work every day. I would ruin it though. I

2201
02:31:31.760 --> 02:31:35.799
just realized, I think this is
very non specific, but I would have

2202
02:31:35.040 --> 02:31:39.879
so much fucking fun if they were
like, hey, we're making far Cry

2203
02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:43.680
seven and I'm going to be the
villain. Yeah, Like, not based

2204
02:31:43.719 --> 02:31:46.479
on anyone. I just just let
me just be a fucking maniac and just

2205
02:31:46.680 --> 02:31:50.639
fucking chew up scenery. You have
to pick a villain. There's so many

2206
02:31:50.680 --> 02:31:54.319
far Cry villains, which Varkry villain
like, I would want to like be

2207
02:31:54.600 --> 02:32:01.440
like, no, I'd want to
be my own thing. What's the one

2208
02:32:01.920 --> 02:32:05.079
that? Uh? Is it?
The one with the like weird cult,

2209
02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:09.239
the Jared letter Joseph. Yeah,
I guess this looks alone. I would

2210
02:32:09.319 --> 02:32:16.559
fit in with five way more than
could be far Chry seven's villain. I'm

2211
02:32:16.600 --> 02:32:20.840
available, folks. I want to
put me in a game available. Ye,

2212
02:32:22.520 --> 02:32:28.200
but far Cry seven is like coming
out, like don't they have his

2213
02:32:28.319 --> 02:32:31.079
face or whatever? And he's been
announced. That's what I saw was guys

2214
02:32:31.120 --> 02:32:37.040
from Breaking Bed. Oh, I
don't know what they announced you. I

2215
02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:41.840
thought they showed a face. There's
time for me to get hired. There's

2216
02:32:41.879 --> 02:32:46.680
still time for Dan to be I've
been in games. I can show you're

2217
02:32:46.680 --> 02:32:50.639
real. I've been in Rockstar games. I'm in Soccer Bunch games. Put

2218
02:32:50.680 --> 02:32:54.200
me in the game. I think
you could be good in punch Out,

2219
02:32:56.920 --> 02:33:01.920
the Hot News series punch Out.
You could be um the first guy.

2220
02:33:01.719 --> 02:33:05.079
Oh good, Yeah, it'd be
Gabby Jay's son who just gets knocked out

2221
02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:09.280
and concussed immediately. Well, it
depends on who you play against. Maybe

2222
02:33:09.319 --> 02:33:13.479
you beat the shit out of him. Nah, Noah, the first guy

2223
02:33:13.600 --> 02:33:18.040
is just gonna get his brains beat
in. Your job is just to get

2224
02:33:18.079 --> 02:33:22.319
the ship beating Nut's glass. Joe. That's Gabby Jane. That's their job.

2225
02:33:22.639 --> 02:33:28.000
They're fucking Berry Horwitz. They're just
getting their asses kicked. That's a

2226
02:33:28.079 --> 02:33:35.000
good gig. No, just another
Tuesday. Punch me in the face.

2227
02:33:35.159 --> 02:33:39.200
You can cuss for a hot dog
and a handshake, can cuss for a

2228
02:33:39.319 --> 02:33:45.959
hand a hand dog and a shake
job, Dan, do you want to

2229
02:33:45.959 --> 02:33:48.639
read this one from a mark?
Sure, it's the way. It's the

2230
02:33:48.760 --> 02:33:52.399
most annoying thing because my internet's being
a dick again, So I can only

2231
02:33:52.479 --> 02:33:58.200
cut in with like the weirdest comments
ever to try to transition. Hey,

2232
02:33:58.280 --> 02:34:01.200
we heard that. So meanwhile,
Jakes listening to this be like Mike hasn't

2233
02:34:01.239 --> 02:34:05.159
talked for like the longest I've ever
heard him not talk before. Oh,

2234
02:34:05.200 --> 02:34:09.959
because he's getting crystal clear, Like, yeah, he doesn't. I'm whispering

2235
02:34:11.040 --> 02:34:13.000
to him. It's sorry, Dan, it's high folks, it's the it's

2236
02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:18.079
this long one. It's it's more
of a prompt for like different foods that

2237
02:34:18.159 --> 02:34:20.799
they eat in Taiwan. That he
was because I had had a comment last

2238
02:34:20.840 --> 02:34:28.360
time about the weirdest place the audience
listens to us on Mondays. So that's

2239
02:34:28.360 --> 02:34:33.360
a response. Oh I remember that. Okay, high folks. On the

2240
02:34:33.440 --> 02:34:37.120
last fire Escape cast, you joked
about where we the audience listened to the

2241
02:34:37.200 --> 02:34:39.799
bod. Here are some pictures I
took at the moment I was listening to

2242
02:34:39.920 --> 02:34:48.239
the discussion. Yeah, pictures I
live in Taipei, Taiwan, and often

2243
02:34:48.319 --> 02:34:52.079
finished work around ten pm too unwind, I went for a late night walk

2244
02:34:52.159 --> 02:35:00.479
to chen k Shik Memorial Hall and
was that shank Kai Shik Shanghai Shik Memorial

2245
02:35:00.559 --> 02:35:03.760
Hall and listen to the fire Escape
Cast. Just want to thank you all

2246
02:35:03.799 --> 02:35:07.680
for the fun podcast that, despite
its insanity, can be quite therapeutic and

2247
02:35:07.840 --> 02:35:11.079
helps relieve the stress of the day. To give you something to respond to,

2248
02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:13.639
here are some interesting Taiwanese foods.
Which do you think you would like?

2249
02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:16.399
Let's give a yea, you're an
a to each of these. We

2250
02:35:16.479 --> 02:35:22.680
got tofu. Maybe it is fermented
tofu that smells like sewage good start.

2251
02:35:22.079 --> 02:35:26.520
Locals say it smells bad but tastes
good. I disagree. I'm gonna nix

2252
02:35:26.600 --> 02:35:28.719
that. That's a name for me. Yeah, I don't like tofu to

2253
02:35:28.799 --> 02:35:33.159
begin with. Just don't smell like
shit if I'm gonna eat you. I

2254
02:35:33.399 --> 02:35:39.239
really do like to try weird foods. Um the fact that it apparently tastes

2255
02:35:39.319 --> 02:35:43.760
and smells like shit. It's not
helpful, But I like tofu, so

2256
02:35:43.000 --> 02:35:46.600
I would put this on the Maybe
tofu is good, Okay, I'm going

2257
02:35:46.680 --> 02:35:50.559
to also absorbs what it's next to
and if it just like is next to

2258
02:35:50.600 --> 02:35:52.920
a bunch of shit that smells like
shit, it's shit, it might absorb

2259
02:35:54.040 --> 02:35:56.079
that shit. Yeah, I don't
want that shit tofu al right. Next

2260
02:35:56.159 --> 02:36:01.600
up is tea eggs, hard boiled
eggs that are stewed in tea, which

2261
02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:03.360
is absorbed into the egg. I'm
going to nag because I still don't really

2262
02:36:03.440 --> 02:36:07.040
understand hard boiled eggs. So now
I love eggs. This is such a

2263
02:36:07.159 --> 02:36:11.120
yes for me. I love soft
boiled eggs so much. And I don't

2264
02:36:11.159 --> 02:36:16.120
know if I'm overthinking this, but
like, like, eggs that are marinated

2265
02:36:16.200 --> 02:36:20.120
in miso are such a wind for
me. Oh my god, They're so

2266
02:36:20.440 --> 02:36:24.120
salty and flavorful and I want to
make them on my own. And this

2267
02:36:24.360 --> 02:36:28.639
is a yes, yes, yes, and Dan, you're missing out.

2268
02:36:28.760 --> 02:36:35.200
Eggs are like great, They're just
little balls of flavor bud like you can

2269
02:36:35.280 --> 02:36:39.000
put bacteria and fetuses, but they
don't, but they soak in the flavor

2270
02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:46.479
of whatever you put around them,
like tofu. I like tofu. These

2271
02:36:46.559 --> 02:36:52.360
sound good tea eggs. I'd try
for sure. Century eggs eggs that are

2272
02:36:52.479 --> 02:36:56.319
buried in clay for months until they
turn black and gelatinous. No, no

2273
02:36:56.520 --> 02:37:03.639
for me, I don't think I
would. I'll try anything. I don't

2274
02:37:03.680 --> 02:37:09.680
think i'd like those, Okay,
who jao bing pork buns, crispy buns

2275
02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:13.799
filled with pork, green onion,
and black pepper. Yeah, yeah,

2276
02:37:16.120 --> 02:37:20.000
oh yeah, every day. Yes, all sounds amazing. That makes me

2277
02:37:20.079 --> 02:37:24.840
want dim sums so bad. That
sounds great. Bab one, a ball

2278
02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:26.879
of jelly with pork and veggies in
the middle, man, I just don't

2279
02:37:26.879 --> 02:37:31.360
want the jelly part, the pork
and veggies maybe, but no, no

2280
02:37:31.520 --> 02:37:35.920
for me. We'll try it.
We'll go for it like jello with veggies

2281
02:37:35.920 --> 02:37:39.520
and pork in it. Sure,
that sounds good for me, for my

2282
02:37:39.600 --> 02:37:43.280
American palette, but I'll try it. I think, you know, some

2283
02:37:43.479 --> 02:37:48.920
of it is a bit riskier.
Jelly specifically can be risky. But I

2284
02:37:48.040 --> 02:37:52.799
think it's it sounds Everything else in
there is like up my alley. It's

2285
02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:58.920
gonna be fine. Speaking of up
our alleys, sweet potato balls bits of

2286
02:37:58.040 --> 02:38:03.399
sweet potatoes that are fried until they
get filled with air and become crunchy.

2287
02:38:03.799 --> 02:38:07.319
Sign me up. I'll be there
with them. Give me them sweet potato

2288
02:38:07.399 --> 02:38:09.239
balls. Let's go to town.
I would eat a bunch of them and

2289
02:38:09.360 --> 02:38:16.680
then liquefy them and inject them into
my arms. Oh, we got an

2290
02:38:16.920 --> 02:38:22.280
MS paint drawing of the scrow to
eyeballs. Oh I'd like to see that,

2291
02:38:22.399 --> 02:38:26.760
please you don't want to. Part
of this podcast is me immediately fucking

2292
02:38:26.840 --> 02:38:28.760
men in black light thing in my
face every time I'm done. I have

2293
02:38:28.959 --> 02:38:33.000
no idea what you're talking about with
eyes, and this one sound is stuck

2294
02:38:33.079 --> 02:38:41.879
with me. Yeah, I'm gonna
say no to the sweet potato. I

2295
02:38:41.920 --> 02:38:46.600
don't like sweet potatoes. Ranch.
I know of the very few things in

2296
02:38:46.680 --> 02:38:50.319
the world that I just don't like. I don't want my potatoes to be

2297
02:38:50.399 --> 02:38:52.399
sweet. I want them to be
savory. It bothers me nothing to you.

2298
02:38:52.559 --> 02:38:54.840
I know, I know the amount
of people that don't like sweet potatoes.

2299
02:38:56.360 --> 02:38:58.000
I don't like them. I gotta
be in the mood for him.

2300
02:38:58.040 --> 02:39:01.680
I gotta be in the mood sweet. Like everybody's always like you'd like my

2301
02:39:01.799 --> 02:39:05.239
sweet potatoes, and I'm like,
no, I fucking don't. I don't

2302
02:39:05.319 --> 02:39:07.719
like sweet potatoes. I don't care
how you make them. I don't care

2303
02:39:07.719 --> 02:39:11.239
if you make them with brown sugar
or honey, or you know, like

2304
02:39:13.200 --> 02:39:16.559
marshmallows and brown sugar. All that
stuff is weird to me. I want

2305
02:39:16.600 --> 02:39:22.120
my fry savory. When you got
here late one night, I feel bad,

2306
02:39:22.200 --> 02:39:28.000
now you would I made Mary a
blt and then gave her sweet potato

2307
02:39:28.040 --> 02:39:31.040
fries on the side when she got
here at like two am after a flight.

2308
02:39:31.079 --> 02:39:35.799
I feel bad now, yeah,
yeah, that was a situation.

2309
02:39:37.159 --> 02:39:41.680
I will eat them. They won't
make me sick. It's just like every

2310
02:39:41.760 --> 02:39:46.479
time, Like if a restaurant is
like, hey, we for your burger,

2311
02:39:46.559 --> 02:39:48.159
we have potato, we have fries, and we have sweet potato fries

2312
02:39:48.399 --> 02:39:54.079
without a beet, I will go
fries because there's no there's no way I

2313
02:39:54.120 --> 02:39:56.200
would want sweet potato fries. Well, can I eat sweet potato fries?

2314
02:39:56.239 --> 02:40:01.840
Of course, like they won't hurt
me, but like they're a waffle form

2315
02:40:01.639 --> 02:40:07.520
I love, but waffle sweet potato
fries are still sweet potatoes. It's still

2316
02:40:07.559 --> 02:40:16.639
the problem. That was com That
was Kyle from Boston in Taiwan. Okay,

2317
02:40:16.920 --> 02:40:22.360
cool, all right, I'm gonna
read this one. Hey, Mitch,

2318
02:40:22.520 --> 02:40:26.479
you permanent marker sniffing baby. I
was wondering if you guys have ever

2319
02:40:26.600 --> 02:40:31.360
liked a game soundtracks so much that
you have purchased it on another medium.

2320
02:40:31.600 --> 02:40:35.000
I recently bought the Eastward soundtrack on
vinyl because it's one of the best video

2321
02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:39.840
game soundtracks I've ever heard, and
it doesn't get enough love. Keep crushing

2322
02:40:39.879 --> 02:40:45.760
it, Keep pino flowing. John
from Kansas City. Um, yes,

2323
02:40:46.200 --> 02:40:52.079
I absolutely adore the Red Dead two
soundtrack, which it's Daniel Lenois, so

2324
02:40:52.200 --> 02:40:58.319
like he's done, like he's won
Grammys and shit, so it's not super

2325
02:40:58.399 --> 02:41:05.360
surprising. But wow, Grammys,
that's so legit. I like, your

2326
02:41:05.920 --> 02:41:18.520
Grammys are garbage. So he can't
defend himself. Yeah, what a dumb

2327
02:41:18.959 --> 02:41:26.079
love the Grammys. Grammys. Mike
is stewing. Mike, please explain yourself.

2328
02:41:26.079 --> 02:41:31.239
I don't think you're frozen anymore.
Am I back? It's not like

2329
02:41:31.319 --> 02:41:39.760
shit, but yeah, Kentucky Root
zero Sounds, hyper Light Drifter, Outer

2330
02:41:39.920 --> 02:41:45.440
Wilds, Outer Wilds. I bought
Wild. I have the vinyl for Outer

2331
02:41:45.479 --> 02:41:50.479
Worlds in my closet here. I
don't have a record player, but I

2332
02:41:50.600 --> 02:41:52.959
have the Outer wild soundtrack. That's
how much I liked it. Send it

2333
02:41:52.479 --> 02:41:58.280
obviously you can't listen to it.
Just send that my way. But the

2334
02:41:58.559 --> 02:42:01.920
Outer Wild is the number one.
I don't think I've ever bought a video

2335
02:42:01.959 --> 02:42:07.600
game soundtrack. I likes to hear
that. Yeah, I've had individual tracks

2336
02:42:07.639 --> 02:42:13.120
I've like downloaded on Napster back in
the day, Like so you've stolen music.

2337
02:42:13.600 --> 02:42:15.920
Yeah, it's like, well,
it's like, oh, I'm making

2338
02:42:15.959 --> 02:42:18.239
a sketch and I want to use
the middle Year Solid Alert music or whatever

2339
02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:24.520
like I'll do. But no,
I don't ever bought a video game soundtrack.

2340
02:42:24.680 --> 02:42:28.159
Now, let me get my Spotify. My Spotify is funny because you

2341
02:42:28.200 --> 02:42:31.799
know how like everybody gets their Spotify
and wrapped and it'll be like you listened

2342
02:42:33.000 --> 02:42:39.440
to Oh, I don't know,
I spice a lot this last year.

2343
02:42:39.680 --> 02:42:46.799
Well mine is always like Macinarium soundtrack
is your number one record again, And

2344
02:42:46.959 --> 02:42:50.879
it's like you've been that way for
five years because I always listen to the

2345
02:42:50.000 --> 02:42:54.239
goddamn Macinarium soundtrack because I think it's
I think it's one of the best soundtracks

2346
02:42:54.280 --> 02:42:58.280
that's ever made. It's very simple. I don't want to say it's like

2347
02:42:58.520 --> 02:43:03.360
life changing, it's does what it
set out to do very well. It

2348
02:43:03.600 --> 02:43:09.399
sounds amazing and to that point,
disaster Piece like Fez soundtrack is like very

2349
02:43:09.440 --> 02:43:15.159
phenomenal and absolutely worth listening to.
These are just like soundtracks that might not

2350
02:43:15.280 --> 02:43:18.360
be, like, they might not
have Grammys, but they are, Like

2351
02:43:18.600 --> 02:43:24.319
they're so extraordinary in what they set
out to accomplish, the world building and

2352
02:43:24.440 --> 02:43:28.440
like the environmental storytelling that the music
can give you. It will plant you

2353
02:43:28.600 --> 02:43:31.079
right back into that game. And
it is tremendous what they were able to

2354
02:43:31.120 --> 02:43:35.639
accomplish with those soundtracks. This is
biased, but I also think the Dust

2355
02:43:35.680 --> 02:43:39.200
Far soundtrack is one of the best
soundtracks I've ever listened to. My friend

2356
02:43:39.280 --> 02:43:43.840
obviously wrote it, but it's a
really really good soundtrack and I can listen

2357
02:43:43.920 --> 02:43:48.920
to that almost every day of the
week. And then for Christmas, my

2358
02:43:48.040 --> 02:43:52.680
friends bought me the Silent Hill soundtrack, which I thought was very thoughtful of

2359
02:43:52.760 --> 02:43:56.719
them. Does it have the dog
ending song, the barking one? It

2360
02:43:56.959 --> 02:44:03.440
has some really sad, stressful yeah, yeah, the one where the dog

2361
02:44:03.639 --> 02:44:07.079
is the that's my favorite pizza.
Yes, that's the fucking best. It's

2362
02:44:07.120 --> 02:44:13.600
a silent track in the yeah at
the end, okay secret. Yeah.

2363
02:44:13.799 --> 02:44:16.879
I can't believe you've never bought a
soundtrack. I buy so many soundtracks.

2364
02:44:16.040 --> 02:44:20.760
Um, like not all obviously,
but like, um, there's just so

2365
02:44:20.000 --> 02:44:24.079
many that are like really tremendous,
um that are worth listening to I'm Glad

2366
02:44:24.079 --> 02:44:28.639
you said hyper Light Drifter, Mike, I think that's a that's just such

2367
02:44:28.639 --> 02:44:31.479
a tremendous soundtrack. I mean,
it's a work of art. For me,

2368
02:44:31.600 --> 02:44:35.520
it's it's so contextual where it's like
when like when I'm running around Delphino

2369
02:44:35.600 --> 02:44:37.639
Plaza, I want to hear think, think, Think, think think like

2370
02:44:37.760 --> 02:44:41.760
I like, I love that music
and everything, But I'm the complete opposite

2371
02:44:41.799 --> 02:44:46.200
of Tim Terry, who anytime you
ever go in Tim Terry's car, he's

2372
02:44:46.280 --> 02:44:48.600
listening to some fucking not Sonic and
Knuckles track, you know, or something

2373
02:44:48.680 --> 02:44:54.319
like he's all day, every day
listening to some fucking Rocket Night track or

2374
02:44:54.399 --> 02:44:56.840
something. It's always Genesis for the
most part, but like that's his fucking

2375
02:44:58.079 --> 02:45:01.079
thing and he loves it, and
God bless him for word. But I

2376
02:45:01.520 --> 02:45:05.680
uh, I outside of a couple
of Metal Year tracks, I don't like

2377
02:45:05.799 --> 02:45:11.319
that I downloaded for like sketches I
was making in college. I don't think

2378
02:45:11.319 --> 02:45:13.639
I've ever gone out of my way
to listen to video game music outside of

2379
02:45:13.920 --> 02:45:18.360
the context. I don't against it. There's a lot of great fucking video

2380
02:45:18.399 --> 02:45:22.639
game music, but it's like I
want to experience it in the game,

2381
02:45:22.120 --> 02:45:26.159
I think, so I want to
just like cover. I have a couple

2382
02:45:26.280 --> 02:45:30.360
liked songs in my Spotify that I
think are worth mentioning. Um, Thomas

2383
02:45:30.520 --> 02:45:35.079
was alone ost is really good.
Um, it's extremely heartfelt and thoughtful.

2384
02:45:35.520 --> 02:45:39.399
Um. Outer Wild was already mentioned. Throw it down there anyway because I

2385
02:45:39.440 --> 02:45:45.879
did heart this. Um, this
is funny. Mario Rabid's Kingdom has really

2386
02:45:46.000 --> 02:45:52.200
good soundtracks with a full orchestra,
and it's just like yeah, a little,

2387
02:45:52.680 --> 02:46:07.319
a little, a little, it's
very very good. So, um,

2388
02:46:07.399 --> 02:46:09.440
I think that's worth it. Um. I have a couple on here

2389
02:46:09.799 --> 02:46:16.879
from Ico. Um Ico is uh
something that I like. Can typically if

2390
02:46:16.920 --> 02:46:22.399
I'm listening to music, I probably
will fall into Ico. It's really good.

2391
02:46:22.680 --> 02:46:28.120
Um. The track I have is
There's so many A Heel is the

2392
02:46:28.239 --> 02:46:30.840
one that I have that's really calming. Um, oh my gosh. If

2393
02:46:30.840 --> 02:46:37.760
you're interested in like calming music,
do uh dark Souls the safe space music.

2394
02:46:37.879 --> 02:46:41.440
Oh, if you listen to that, you will go to sleep.

2395
02:46:43.159 --> 02:46:46.959
It will put your ass to sleep. It's so comforting. Same thing with

2396
02:46:46.040 --> 02:46:52.799
resideval MICA's spot on, like there
there is music there they associate me with

2397
02:46:52.959 --> 02:46:56.760
like peace and serenity. Um,
you know, I'm talking about like in

2398
02:46:56.760 --> 02:47:01.639
the Dark Souls, like one where
it's like mun and it's like kind of

2399
02:47:01.760 --> 02:47:05.239
sad and dark, but it's also
like really soothing because you know you're in

2400
02:47:05.280 --> 02:47:09.920
a safe space. I love that
one. Um, the entire city of

2401
02:47:09.040 --> 02:47:16.120
Tears space in Hollow Night is like
extraordinary and very peaceful. I could go

2402
02:47:16.319 --> 02:47:20.760
on about game music. I think
basically, if I like listen to a

2403
02:47:20.840 --> 02:47:24.159
song and it sticks with me,
I will, um, I will like

2404
02:47:24.319 --> 02:47:26.479
follow them on Spotify. I should
make a Spotify playlist because I listened to

2405
02:47:26.520 --> 02:47:31.000
a lot of video game music and
be like, hey, I should.

2406
02:47:31.000 --> 02:47:35.319
Yeah. I feel very strongly about
video game music. I think it's uh.

2407
02:47:35.879 --> 02:47:39.520
I think it's something we don't talk
about enough, which is video game

2408
02:47:39.639 --> 02:47:43.440
music is of its own right deserving
of awards. We don't talk about video

2409
02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:46.840
game music enough. Um. I
don't feel like we discuss it. Like

2410
02:47:46.319 --> 02:47:52.600
I tried to make a Bangers Award
for our Word show. Yeah that's right.

2411
02:47:52.879 --> 02:47:58.760
Um. And I assume m Jeff
Keeley's Goaties does music. I think

2412
02:47:58.799 --> 02:48:03.440
they did. Um, they did
because they gave it to Elden Ring.

2413
02:48:03.559 --> 02:48:07.360
I'm pretty sure. But I think
like there's a lot of Christopher Judge's speech

2414
02:48:07.399 --> 02:48:13.360
erased it though, just kept talking. Yeah, shut up, my god.

2415
02:48:13.520 --> 02:48:18.479
But you know, I'm just standing
there for my kids. Anyway,

2416
02:48:22.159 --> 02:48:24.479
I'm gonna call it. I'll make
I'll make a playlist and I'll share it.

2417
02:48:24.719 --> 02:48:28.760
There's so much music that everyone should
listen to. I don't know why

2418
02:48:28.760 --> 02:48:33.280
I'm so like with movies, I'm
kind of the opposite, where like I

2419
02:48:33.399 --> 02:48:37.239
bought a bunch of movie soundtracks,
and like I've probably listened to music from

2420
02:48:37.280 --> 02:48:41.840
the Rocky soundtracks more than like goddamn
any band in the last twenty years.

2421
02:48:41.959 --> 02:48:45.600
You know, like the amount of
times I've listened to No Easy Way Out

2422
02:48:45.840 --> 02:48:50.159
or fucking World Depart or any of
the fucking You're just training montage music from

2423
02:48:50.239 --> 02:48:54.559
Rocky just constant, constant. But
like, I've just never felt the inclination

2424
02:48:54.719 --> 02:49:03.280
video game wise. But I guess
Rocky specifically cool Kentucky Root zero soundtracks incredible.

2425
02:49:03.799 --> 02:49:07.079
Oh that surprises. Yeah, I
guess I don't associate that with music

2426
02:49:07.159 --> 02:49:11.120
I always associated with writing. But
it does have good music. Yeah,

2427
02:49:11.159 --> 02:49:18.120
it's like folk bluegrass, but also
the other half is like ethereal kind of

2428
02:49:18.239 --> 02:49:22.479
synth wave. Um cool. My
internet is shitty, so do you want

2429
02:49:22.520 --> 02:49:26.840
to you want to lead us out
tonight? You can do it, Dan,

2430
02:49:28.399 --> 02:49:33.440
I believe you all right, Well, you can go to fire Escape

2431
02:49:33.559 --> 02:49:41.559
merch dot com probably, I think
that probably direct course or current situation by

2432
02:49:41.719 --> 02:49:46.879
shirts by hats. Do we have
ats? No, we have scratch that

2433
02:49:46.959 --> 02:49:52.479
we don't have ats. Buy shirts, buy shirts by mousepads, by mugs,

2434
02:49:52.600 --> 02:49:56.319
by mugs, those are good.
Uh, fire escape merch dot com.

2435
02:49:56.440 --> 02:50:01.040
And let me tell you we do
a patroon and Mary tell him about

2436
02:50:01.040 --> 02:50:05.479
the patreon. Oh, the patreons
probably where we put all the best goodies

2437
02:50:05.559 --> 02:50:07.319
and we put bonuses in there like
this. One time we did a road

2438
02:50:07.399 --> 02:50:11.639
trip in the car and Dan and
I got the truck to make the horn

2439
02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:16.600
noise, and we talked about stuff
that we don't share in the regular podcast.

2440
02:50:16.680 --> 02:50:20.120
So if you like that kind of
extra stuff, or if you like

2441
02:50:20.280 --> 02:50:22.440
add free or the video version.
The video version is pretty cool because you

2442
02:50:22.479 --> 02:50:26.000
can actually see what we're drinking right
now. For example, I'm drinking an

2443
02:50:26.200 --> 02:50:31.280
entire bottle of wine, which is
why I couldn't read one of the emails.

2444
02:50:31.360 --> 02:50:35.559
First leaf, what did I say? I think, yeah, first

2445
02:50:35.639 --> 02:50:37.440
leaf, I did, I am
I'm actually drinking a bottle from first leaf

2446
02:50:37.959 --> 02:50:41.399
because I don't drink a lot of
wine, so this is new for me.

2447
02:50:41.760 --> 02:50:45.040
Um, It's delicious. What are
you drinking, Dan, I'm on

2448
02:50:45.120 --> 02:50:46.879
my second I finished my bottle of
wine. I'm on my second bottle light

2449
02:50:46.959 --> 02:50:52.159
selter apple slices. I got a
cranberry apple. He listen the ad free

2450
02:50:52.239 --> 02:50:54.399
thing. That ain't no joke on
the pare you know a un people are

2451
02:50:54.440 --> 02:50:58.799
giant babies about fucking ads on podcasts. Out that podcast work and make money.

2452
02:51:00.040 --> 02:51:03.000
So if you're a big ass baby
that has a big ass problem with

2453
02:51:03.120 --> 02:51:07.920
hitting forward thirty seconds once or twice
a podcast, a few bucks are away,

2454
02:51:07.920 --> 02:51:09.319
we gotta Paytron. You don't have
to ever worry about that ever.

2455
02:51:09.440 --> 02:51:13.079
Again, that's how it goes.
Oh yeah, oh my god. Chrono

2456
02:51:13.120 --> 02:51:26.040
Trigger the original soundtracks, Dot Vote, Down Vote No podcast sponsored by Chrono

2457
02:51:26.079 --> 02:51:31.559
Trigger. I also love the Game
of the Year stuff. I wonder how

2458
02:51:31.600 --> 02:51:35.040
they funded it, but I also
hate ads. Doubt vote. I just

2459
02:51:35.120 --> 02:51:41.280
wish they didn't make money. I
had a really good conversation with someone this

2460
02:51:41.399 --> 02:51:45.840
weekend um who said something like capitalism, Um, and I was like,

2461
02:51:45.959 --> 02:51:50.520
yes, capitalism, capitalism is a
problem, but everyone also gets really upset

2462
02:51:50.639 --> 02:51:54.200
every time there's like an issue in
like games, media or like when our

2463
02:51:54.280 --> 02:52:00.360
friends are in trouble. So don't
forget about the ads because they help us

2464
02:52:00.479 --> 02:52:03.680
do what we do for a living. Turns out, folks gotta make money.

2465
02:52:03.159 --> 02:52:07.600
It turns out kind of how we
can't really change the greater scan things

2466
02:52:09.559 --> 02:52:13.760
work with us. Yes, we
do have a hat by the way,

2467
02:52:13.799 --> 02:52:16.680
Sorry, we do have. It's
a it's a beanie that says dorky Christmas

2468
02:52:16.799 --> 02:52:20.239
on it. I feel like we
should update that. There's a very specific

2469
02:52:20.319 --> 02:52:24.959
hat. Nothing. There's no way
that that's sold more than like one.

2470
02:52:26.920 --> 02:52:33.120
Can we see who bought the one? They get our staf probably that call

2471
02:52:33.200 --> 02:52:35.959
them out right now. Don't talk
to them, but like give us the

2472
02:52:37.000 --> 02:52:43.559
first name Jenny. Really no,
I don't know. You gotta give me

2473
02:52:43.639 --> 02:52:50.959
more from I need more time.
Um. Yeah, but it's been a

2474
02:52:52.000 --> 02:52:56.520
fun episode. Okay, we did
sell at Weather sold a hat. We

2475
02:52:56.600 --> 02:53:01.600
sold one. Really start to god
first name. It doesn't it's I'm not

2476
02:53:01.760 --> 02:53:07.360
doing that that. I wouldn't lie
my first name. Really, I think

2477
02:53:07.360 --> 02:53:11.639
it's shocking we actually did sell one. We you know how we've sold a

2478
02:53:11.680 --> 02:53:15.040
lot of dorky Christmas sweaters, which
I think is great. Yeah, I

2479
02:53:15.120 --> 02:53:18.159
saw that. Give the last number
of the hat buyers credit card. Never,

2480
02:53:18.520 --> 02:53:22.760
that doesn'tify anything, just the last
number. We just got what fifteen

2481
02:53:22.799 --> 02:53:28.479
others to figure out. Yeah,
that's not that's not doxin Um. There's

2482
02:53:28.520 --> 02:53:31.200
also been a lot of mugs.
Um. I would say the highest selling

2483
02:53:31.319 --> 02:53:39.799
item, which is surprising to me, is the mug that's good mouse pad.

2484
02:53:39.559 --> 02:53:43.840
I think it's because it's reasonably priced. We made sure that it wasn't

2485
02:53:43.920 --> 02:53:48.479
like a super expensive mug. It's
not like a pillar of what we do,

2486
02:53:48.639 --> 02:53:50.799
so we just made it affordable.
Yeah, I'm well, actually I

2487
02:53:52.120 --> 02:53:54.280
feel very strongly about that, which
is like, the things that are on

2488
02:53:54.479 --> 02:53:58.680
here are not here to make us
like profit. The things are on here

2489
02:53:58.719 --> 02:54:03.879
because because it's super cool to see
a fire escape logo in the wild,

2490
02:54:03.280 --> 02:54:07.959
Like that's the that's the thing that
makes it awesome. Um. And if

2491
02:54:09.040 --> 02:54:13.120
I when I see them, when
I especially when I see the ones about

2492
02:54:13.159 --> 02:54:18.799
the author in the wild, great
great joy. So I don't like the

2493
02:54:18.959 --> 02:54:24.319
prices like basically for like construction,
because I just want to see these things

2494
02:54:24.399 --> 02:54:26.760
exist in the world. Yeah,
we're not getting rich out this. We

2495
02:54:26.840 --> 02:54:31.079
just want to make fun of Mike. I just literally want to him to

2496
02:54:31.159 --> 02:54:37.680
be upset. Abject humiliation on my
part has gone into this podcast for its

2497
02:54:37.719 --> 02:54:39.799
success. So help us, help
you, Mike. If you could find

2498
02:54:39.879 --> 02:54:43.600
something half as potent as that for
me or Mary, you would have done

2499
02:54:43.600 --> 02:54:50.040
it six months ago. I look, everyone's gotten shit that's embarrassing from their

2500
02:54:50.079 --> 02:54:52.399
past and like, oh I was
a shitty rider, or this is a

2501
02:54:52.479 --> 02:54:56.879
dumb thing, or what a dumb
idea, But man, yours is just

2502
02:54:56.959 --> 02:55:01.719
so potent and concise and specific.
Oh the moment I saw it, I

2503
02:55:01.879 --> 02:55:05.520
just knew it was gold spilling on
odd screen. I've watched the clip several

2504
02:55:05.600 --> 02:55:11.479
times, and it's funny, like
watching emotions. Well, I immediately know

2505
02:55:11.719 --> 02:55:16.360
what you see through a video call, and I'm like, oh, holy

2506
02:55:16.680 --> 02:55:22.600
fuck, you can see my like
end trails, leave my ass off camera

2507
02:55:22.799 --> 02:55:28.079
show. Oh my god, that's
so vivid. Man, you did great

2508
02:55:28.079 --> 02:55:33.719
work. Thanks. I appreciate it. Um. Yeah, that's episode forty

2509
02:55:33.799 --> 02:55:37.319
nine. We'll be back with episode
fifty. We'll be back. This is

2510
02:55:37.399 --> 02:55:41.760
today's February twenty seventh, not a
leap year, doesn't matter. We'll be

2511
02:55:41.840 --> 02:55:46.760
back March thirteenth. Not quite the
eydes of March, but also almost what

2512
02:55:46.879 --> 02:55:50.840
are the IDEs? Did you mean
that as a pun? No? What

2513
02:55:50.959 --> 02:55:54.719
are the IDEs of March? March
fifteenth is the IDEs of March? Halfway

2514
02:55:54.760 --> 02:56:00.280
through the months when Caesar died,
supposedly or god assassinated right by many pel

2515
02:56:00.760 --> 02:56:03.040
Oh, I thought it was just
that's the way to go. Okay.

2516
02:56:03.239 --> 02:56:07.440
I thought it was brute way to
go, getting stabbed by all of your

2517
02:56:07.520 --> 02:56:13.600
friends, I mean friend. Also, he said, yeah, he was

2518
02:56:13.680 --> 02:56:16.079
a shoot nude. Right, he
wasn't like a like that's not like a

2519
02:56:16.799 --> 02:56:22.200
myth. Right, Caesar was a
guy who was Yeah, Okay, there

2520
02:56:22.319 --> 02:56:26.360
was several Caesars, many of them. Wait, like Saddam Hussein body doubles

2521
02:56:26.559 --> 02:56:33.040
or no Augustus Julius like it was
a family name. Oh? Okay?

2522
02:56:33.559 --> 02:56:37.159
The what is it? Is it? Our calendar was mainly based off Augustus,

2523
02:56:37.680 --> 02:56:41.680
Right, there's a whole month no
August something calendar. God, I

2524
02:56:41.920 --> 02:56:45.520
I gotta stop bringing this shit up
at the end of episodes. What I've

2525
02:56:45.520 --> 02:56:50.639
been drinking? No, because August
July July is named after Julius august Is

2526
02:56:50.639 --> 02:56:56.440
Augustus. Shit, how about March, March, Marchius, Marchius? What

2527
02:56:56.559 --> 02:57:03.920
the hell's the name of the calendar. Holy shit, I'm blanking the Fibrurion.

2528
02:57:03.479 --> 02:57:13.520
No, okay, I got the
Gregorian calendar. Sorry, it is

2529
02:57:13.600 --> 02:57:20.079
named for Pope Gregory the thirteenth,
the papal bull ter gravissimas in fifteen eighty

2530
02:57:20.120 --> 02:57:26.719
two, What is Happening? Classic
Gregory? Um, well cool, that

2531
02:57:26.799 --> 02:57:31.600
was episode forty nine. We'll be
back fifty hopefully I'll have caught up on

2532
02:57:31.680 --> 02:57:37.399
more of these. Well cool,
cool greg Pope Pope Greg Oh you know

2533
02:57:37.479 --> 02:57:39.360
what? Uh? That actually reminds
me. You guys will meet my friend

2534
02:57:39.920 --> 02:57:43.200
at wedding stuff. I steal all
my jokes from him. But you know

2535
02:57:43.239 --> 02:57:46.799
how a lot of people say,
like to say like absolutely yes to a

2536
02:57:46.879 --> 02:57:50.760
question. Someone will say does a
bear shit in the woods? Or is

2537
02:57:50.799 --> 02:57:54.799
the Pope Catholic? My friend in
high school started combining him and be like,

2538
02:57:56.319 --> 02:57:58.000
hey man, you want to go
to this party, and I'd be

2539
02:57:58.040 --> 02:58:01.000
like, does the Pope shit in
the woods? That he didn't come up

2540
02:58:01.000 --> 02:58:03.920
with that. That's a thing that's
definitely been said. No, he came

2541
02:58:03.000 --> 02:58:05.280
up with it. I heard that
a billion times. I have no idea

2542
02:58:05.280 --> 02:58:09.520
who you're talking. No, you
got it from him? No, Yeah,

2543
02:58:09.559 --> 02:58:11.680
that's the thing. A lot of
people. He saw that on some

2544
02:58:11.840 --> 02:58:16.079
like Anchorman deleted or something. No, you don't give him that much credit.

2545
02:58:16.280 --> 02:58:20.959
Yeah, you got it from him
at all. Yeah, I just

2546
02:58:22.079 --> 02:58:26.479
took it from something I heard that
in Kansas twenty years. Oh my god,

2547
02:58:26.520 --> 02:58:28.879
it made it all the way to
Kansas. That was ever thing.

2548
02:58:28.000 --> 02:58:31.479
That he didn't come up with it. That's crazy that he would have made

2549
02:58:31.520 --> 02:58:35.040
it. A person say it.
That's insane that it got all the way

2550
02:58:35.120 --> 02:58:43.120
from Syracuse, Kansas. Oh my
god, osmosis of jokes across the fight

2551
02:58:43.280 --> 02:58:46.840
fight at Mike's wedding, wedding,
wedding. Now he'll be at the bachelor

2552
02:58:46.920 --> 02:58:52.559
party too. I'll judicate. Let's
see some let's see it. Dan gets

2553
02:58:52.600 --> 02:58:58.440
pissed when people are funnier than him. No he doesn't, actually not at

2554
02:58:58.479 --> 02:59:01.799
all. Dan's us just enjoying when
people are funny than him around him.

2555
02:59:03.120 --> 02:59:07.959
I'm just enjoying most things typically good
way to be just a pleasant man.

2556
02:59:09.479 --> 02:59:13.799
Well that was episode forty nine.
Thanks everybody. We'll be back episode fifty

2557
02:59:13.879 --> 02:59:16.840
next week. That'll be excite.
Do we want to do anything special?

2558
02:59:16.000 --> 02:59:18.639
What do we want to do?
Anything? We got I'm gonna get free

2559
02:59:18.719 --> 02:59:26.760
snacks. Oh that's that sends some
audio. That's good. I'm sure that'll

2560
02:59:26.799 --> 02:59:28.680
sound awesome. And I want to
get the sharks. I want to get

2561
02:59:28.680 --> 02:59:31.079
the ones that have the white sharks
in them, well, the white bellies,

2562
02:59:31.120 --> 02:59:33.559
the blue sharks with the white bellies, the frogs, the lime green

2563
02:59:33.639 --> 02:59:41.680
frogs, frogs, classic gushers too, those are great. Those are amazing.

2564
02:59:41.760 --> 02:59:46.639
I'm telling me a new thing I
discovered recently, the trolley sour watermelon

2565
02:59:46.879 --> 02:59:52.479
sharks. I had five of them
before the podcast, and they are the

2566
02:59:52.600 --> 02:59:58.239
only sure. The density of these
sour watermelon sharks are unreal. I have

2567
02:59:58.360 --> 03:00:05.319
a high st standard for chewy sweet
candies. I want sour watermelon sharks.

2568
03:00:05.479 --> 03:00:09.399
They're dense as shit. I hate
your mouth and you're just getting into it,

2569
03:00:09.600 --> 03:00:11.760
all right, that's good. I
hate when I have a gummy thing

2570
03:00:11.799 --> 03:00:16.399
and it's super soft and my teeth
just connect right away. That's why I

2571
03:00:16.440 --> 03:00:18.479
put them there. I don't want
the Harry bow I don't want the Harry

2572
03:00:18.479 --> 03:00:22.760
bow bearers. Those are for those
are for scrubs. You can't just get

2573
03:00:22.000 --> 03:00:28.559
Baby's Classic. You have kee trains
in the freezer. Trolley sour watermelon sharks.

2574
03:00:28.600 --> 03:00:33.280
I'm telling all right, I'm on
the lookout. Okay, I bought

2575
03:00:33.319 --> 03:00:37.600
a twelve pack of bags on Amazon. Alright, sick, all right,

2576
03:00:37.639 --> 03:00:39.239
well everybody, thanks for joining.
You could have been anywhere in the world

2577
03:00:39.280 --> 03:00:43.520
Tonight Shows. Spend it with us. We will be back in two weeks

2578
03:00:45.280 --> 03:00:50.799
March thirteenth, to celebrate Caesar's death. We'll be hanging out here with let's

2579
03:00:50.840 --> 03:00:54.959
not get into this right now,
episode fifteen. We'll see you then,

2580
03:00:56.799 --> 03:01:18.360
bye bye mm hm. The US
style