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What's the best thing about Leo's Everything? The 36 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,960 president of Leo's Bakery and Delhi. So I guess Patrick, My question for 37 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,240 you to begin with would be how does it all begin for you? Well, 38 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,039 forback, you want to go, well far back, like what did 39 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,719 your parents do? So, my father owned a bakery. Okay, my 40 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,400 grandfather owned a bakery, and here in Rochester. Here in Rochester, okay. 41 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,479 My grandfather's bakery was called ran Dc Bakery was on SiO Street downtown. 42 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:19,400 Yea, my father's bakery was called rand Cora Bakery was on Central Park then 43 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,159 in Webster. So did your grandfather owned the bakery? He was in? 44 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,199 He did, he did, and he but your dad went and started his 45 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,240 dueling bakery. Not exactly, it was my dad. It wasn't his dad 46 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,680 though, was my mom's Okay, I got you. Okay. My dad 47 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:37,960 was in the business then with with his father in law and then my two 48 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,520 uncles who were by Grandpa's brothers, and my father decided to open a bigger 49 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,479 bakery because Grandpa's bakery was small, right, so they opened the bigger ones. 50 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,000 So then Grandpa came along with him he did, okay, yeah, 51 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,560 yeah, and so did he sell his He? I don't all yeah, 52 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,400 probably, or maybe just closed it and moved in. So growing up around 53 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:02,319 that, yeah, did you learn early on all about I mean, I 54 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:05,680 look at all the things that are inside Leo's. I did, and it's 55 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,560 very unique, right, I mean from Connoli's to the Half Moon Cookies to 56 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:15,680 everything that's and a lot. Although when I grew up in that whole bakery 57 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 business, my father's, my grandfather's, it was bread and rolls, was 58 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:24,480 never sweets, and it was never sweets very little. Oh So then after 59 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,839 a bunch of years went by, I got out and I worked for Tops, 60 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:30,079 okay, and I was bakery specialist for them. I was in charge 61 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,000 of all their bakeries. I learned a lot of it there was did the 62 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,040 family still have the bakery at that point when you were working for Tops? 63 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:40,560 Or did that? So you want to hear the whole nasty story. My 64 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,720 father and my two uncles got in an argument. It's going way back. 65 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:46,360 So they got along great for many years and they had a really successful business. 66 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,759 But years went by and they just kind of had a falling out, 67 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,160 and so my father left the business. So then I left the business. 68 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,959 Was got worked there without him. So once he did, I did. 69 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,399 I went to work for Tops. So what happens if I'm getting too personal, 70 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:05,959 but what happens in within the family structure. I would assume that everybody 71 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 worked together. You're in everybody's daily lives. Yes, you know, if 72 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,000 you ever leave a job, you really missed the people you worked with, 73 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,680 if you you know, because they become more like family than a coworker, 74 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:20,079 and it was family for you. So the cousins and it was a little 75 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:24,319 difficult. Was it really a while? Yes? It was actually people get 76 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,839 together or no no, no, no, not for a while. But 77 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:30,480 you know, as years went by, I think things got fixed up. 78 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:33,759 And the whole business was closed though by then, okay, it was all 79 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,639 done. Yeah, once my father left, kind of it all fell apart 80 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,120 pretty much really, so he was sort of the lynchpan that kept it all 81 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,160 together in my opinion, and you too, but probably you as well. 82 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,920 I was pretty young. I was just in my early mid twenties. Yeah. 83 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,480 Yeah, that's difficult when family doesn't talk. I remember my parents having 84 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:59,560 a twenty fifth or thirty fifth wedding anniversary for one of the one of my 85 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:03,639 grandparents, and there were two uncles that hadn't talked probably in twenty years, 86 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:08,120 and they began talking and they couldn't remember why or what, you know, 87 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,800 what I'm saying, like, what happens with that? And then there was 88 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,079 a period of time I mean going uh, you know, a little personal. 89 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,480 But again, I was seven and my parents decided that they wanted to 90 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:24,519 get more out of church, and they felt like they weren't getting enough out 91 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:28,040 of the Catholic Church. Now I come from a very Irish Catholic family, 92 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:36,040 so they switched to Protestantism, and my grandfather would not talk to my mom 93 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,560 wow for a year. So that's her dad, her dad. Because it 94 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,120 was Northern Ireland, Southern Ireland, and then my grandmother, like I would 95 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,839 still go down to visit stuff and they never shut us out, but he 96 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,519 just wouldn't speak. And my grandmother used to corner me and asked me what 97 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,879 I was learning in church and wasn't properly. But it's one of those things 98 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,480 with family dynamics, it can be tough. And I got I think even 99 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,800 working together is pretty tough. Tough. Yeah, yeah, sure, but 100 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:08,360 they did it successfully for a number of years. You go to tops yep, 101 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:14,000 and I was there about four years, okay, and I decided to 102 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,959 open my own business. Yeah, yeah, what gave you that crazy idea? 103 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Because because that's how I am. Well as you'll hear. But you 104 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:24,759 saw your family. I did, Yeah, I did. So I found 105 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,879 a bakery. It was for rent. Actually I had no money, it 106 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,759 was yeah, it was for rent. It was pretty cheap. I was 107 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,519 back in nineteen eighty or whatever. Okay, so I rented it. It 108 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,560 was it was actually either rent or sale. I think fifteen thousand to buy 109 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,839 it or five thousand to rent it. Okay. Said to the guy, 110 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,720 Well how long does the rent last? So as long as you want, 111 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,120 I said, worry, Well, then I'll pay five thousand. Idin't have 112 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,920 any money anyway. So I rented it for several years and I so the 113 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,319 five thousand was the rent for for as long as not every year. What 114 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:55,959 No, but there was still rent per month, you know. I got 115 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,360 to rent the rent space. I rented basically the equipment. The equipment I 116 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:01,839 got you. Yeah, so I was in there for quite a while. 117 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:03,600 That was in East Rochester where of course we ended up again. Now, 118 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:07,079 but in the old part of town. What were you baking? Was it 119 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,839 just? It wasn't just rolls and bread? No, that was because I 120 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:13,439 took over what they had already. They had a bakery and a meat market. 121 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,360 So these guys were meat guys, and they had a baker and he 122 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:18,839 got sick, and they said, hey, instead of closing the baker, 123 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,120 why don't we see if somebody'll just take it over. Who knows how to 124 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,000 bake? So that was me, okay, And I stepped in there and 125 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,639 I did a lot of their recipes that they already had and some that I 126 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,279 had, and got it going pretty good. Yeah, we actually took over 127 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,240 the note. There was an empty store next to that, so we doubled 128 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,759 the size of it within a few years. And then I got antsy and 129 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,399 my dad was getting a little sicker, and he, by this time had 130 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:45,159 a very small little pastry shop, so I took that over. So then 131 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,320 I had two bakeries. Wow. Then and about two years later I thought 132 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,519 I'd like to have my own building. So I said, would you guys 133 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:54,080 sell me this building? And they said, no, we don't want to 134 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,639 sell it. So I bought a building in Webster and opened a third bakery. 135 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,519 So you had three bakries. You continued to end. You took over 136 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,159 your dad's pastry shop, but your dad had just been making brett. Where 137 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,720 did the training come from? Now? I grew up downstate near the Culinary 138 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:15,480 Institute the CIA. We used to go in there with a teacher and sometimes 139 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:18,600 we would sit in the back. He knew some of the other one of 140 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,080 the professors there, so we would sit in the back and sometimes desserts would 141 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,919 come back and they were barely touched. So we realized, and they're so 142 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,159 good. So where does the training come? Because pastry is quite the Yeah, 143 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,000 I mean, that's quite the undertaking. Because like I had a neighbor 144 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,000 who was a French chef. His name was Charles Vurione. Charles ran one 145 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,799 of the ten best restaurants in the United States at one point and then had 146 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,320 a cookbook and he was the private chef to Orson Wells. When he moved 147 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,200 in, we all thought he was kind of full of garbage. And my 148 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 mother brought over Irish soda bread and he called her up and said, I'd 149 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:56,639 love to work on the recipe with you, and then sent over his cookbook, 150 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,639 which just showed you like, there's a lot of you know, a 151 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:03,320 lot that goes into pastries. There is, I don't know, it just 152 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:07,080 kind of comes in. You learn things, you get recipes, you follow 153 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,000 them, you do what you think is right, and before you know it, 154 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,720 you have a whole line of pastries and baked goods and customers. Yeah 155 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,440 it's all good. So you're doing three different locations at that point, I 156 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,600 am. Yeah. My wife's helping me. Um. My kids were pretty 157 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,600 young at the time, so they helped a little, but not really to 158 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,639 count on a baker's day start at what time? For me? I always 159 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,480 had a donutmaker, Okay, a donutmaker would come in usually at three am, 160 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,080 three am, although there was a time in my life that I was 161 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,480 the donutmaker. When you can't find someone you own the business, you got 162 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,320 to do it. But right. So I would come in at six, 163 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:46,519 six o'clock in the morning, and then when when what a baker's day end? 164 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:52,200 A baker or an owner of an owner of baker. You know, 165 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,840 for a lot of years I worked a lot of hours sometimes, you know, 166 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,039 if you come in at six, you go home at six. Yeah. 167 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,960 Um. When I bought Leo's, I worked for an entire year straight 168 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,559 without a day off, many many, many hours trying to get it right. 169 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,000 So over the years I've worked a lot. Ye you love it? 170 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:09,240 Ah, Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. I mean, 171 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:13,840 I'm guy, can see it. You look very vibrant. Thank you, 172 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,919 like like you know what I'm saying, Like you've got energy. And because 173 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,960 that's a lot. With the three plus you have kids at the time you're 174 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,799 married, that's a that's a lot. Yes, So I decided that's a 175 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:28,799 lot and I sold them, okay, all three of them. Well I 176 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,519 did, and I said, I'm I'm not going to be in the bakery 177 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:37,279 business anymore. I'm try something different. So the company that sold the businesses 178 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,919 for me said, so what are you going to do now? And I'm 179 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,200 like I'm not sure. They go, why don't you come work for us? 180 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,639 You could sell businesses. I'm like, well, I don't have it. 181 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,039 I don't have any training in that, and you don't need any training. 182 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Okay, what do you do? We'll train you. So I sold 183 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,960 businesses for about about a year. It was fun, yeah, and showing 184 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,519 what kind of businesses, anything that came our way. You know. He 185 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:01,000 would run ads that we would. I think there once was a hobby shop. 186 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Yeah, there was a couple of gas stations. So someone's looking to 187 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,000 sell their business, yep. Instead of them having to go find the leads, 188 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,600 you guys would do it. It would be almost like a real estentially, 189 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:13,519 yeah, like real estate, except not and there was if there was 190 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,759 real estate involved, there was a realtor that would be right. So this 191 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,559 was just strictly the business, right Yeah. Yeah, And I've said the 192 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,879 story before, but I was doing pretty good. I was like salesman of 193 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,840 the month a couple of times for getting listings, and but I never made 194 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:31,600 any money. I told the owner like yeah, he said, yeah, 195 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:33,960 but you're a salesman of the month. I said, yeah, but I 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,639 mean, you don't get any money for being forgetting to be the salesman of 197 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,799 the month. You sold something, and we sold very few things. But 198 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:46,279 anyway, a bakery came along, so I had to buy it. So 199 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,440 I bought it. It was a small little cookie shop, okay. And 200 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,759 I think at the time my son was in his twenties or nineteen or twenty, 201 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:54,879 and I thought maybe he would like to get in it with me, 202 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,799 and that didn't really happen. So my wife and I ran a little cookie 203 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:01,919 shop for okay, a couple of years until I got frustrated with it. 204 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:09,159 Was your wife a baker as well. She is incredible. She she can 205 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,919 do anything. She still works with me today. Okay. Now she does 206 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,639 all the accounting, but she decorates wedding cakes, any cakes. It's quite 207 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:20,919 the open now, just gonna jump in ahead. When we walked through. 208 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,679 That is quite the operation you have there. You have some really talented people 209 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,919 that we today you do so much talent, it's incredible. But in the 210 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:31,200 beginning it's just you and your wife, right wow, right, And I 211 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,759 think we hired a guy that makes the domnuts and stuff like that, so 212 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:35,679 she never got sick. Of each other you can get We did, Yeah, 213 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,159 of course we did. What do you think for normal people? My 214 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,799 wife always says that when you work together, it's like dog years. So 215 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,360 that's actually been married fifty three years. That's very funny, so time seven. 216 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,879 That's a good sense of humor your wife has. She doesn't know. 217 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:52,840 She says that, but not in a nice way. Well not only, 218 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,720 but I kind of think like it must have. There had to be days 219 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:01,639 like when one of you wasn't there you sort of felt wall because you're together 220 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,000 so much. Or no, no, we were together a lot. Yeah, 221 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:05,039 yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think that's kind of 222 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:07,440 nice. And it's nice. Yeah, Like I said, we still do 223 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,799 it today, and it's a lot easier. We don't you know, world 224 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:13,679 people now we don't kill ourselves. We Okay, it works part time. 225 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,759 I guess I work full time, but I also take some winters off. 226 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:20,000 I go down to Florida and stuff. So it's not as hard as it 227 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,279 used to be. But when you're running this little little one the cookie shop, 228 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,279 yeah yeah, that's all you and so you are you getting up at 229 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,039 three o'clock in the morning or no, it wasn't like that because it wasn't 230 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:33,840 don't. Yeah, cookies, Yeah, exactly right, because don't let's have 231 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:35,919 like a ten hour shelf like or whatever. Cookies last maybe a week, 232 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,240 so you could make them during the day and deliver them the next day. 233 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,919 So okay, So we did that just for a few years. We sold 234 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,440 it, and I had a midlife crisis. Does what does that mean? 235 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Yeah? Yeah, I mean we all have an idea that pops in our 236 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,639 head when we hear those words. But is there what kind of sports car 237 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:56,440 came into No, it wasn't a sports car. It was boat, honey, 238 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:00,480 Nope. My daughter was still living home. She was I think a 239 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:05,200 senior. I think we're gonna move to Hawaii. Wow? Wait, and 240 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,279 we did? You did? You did? Wow? Three years? Holy 241 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:13,639 cow? I know the craziest thing in the world. Okay, so you 242 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,840 can I kind of interlude here a little bit. I hope you don't mind. 243 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:24,000 I'm very curious as to how that conversation goes, because I'm assuming your 244 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,679 wife is probably a Rochastarian. She is with her family here. We know 245 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,840 you. We heard your story, right, your grandfather and father at bakery, 246 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:37,159 So you've got roots here. You're gonna get up and go, I 247 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,799 mean really to the other side of the world, six thousand miles had you 248 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:48,080 gone to Hawaii prior. So this conversation didn't just happen instantly, as you 249 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:50,879 might guess, So it evolved over about a two year period of time. 250 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,799 Maybe someday we'll move to Hawaii. And I had an employee actually that worked 251 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,759 for me, and he found a bakery for sale in Hawaii. Because I 252 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,320 used to tell him all the time, it's so nice that I go on 253 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,360 a vacation during the during the winter and go to the Caribbean or whatever and 254 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:11,720 say, man, Joe, it's it's great to to be and what if 255 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:12,720 we had a bakery somewhere like that, you get out of work and you 256 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:15,879 go to the beach instead of you or you're freezing and stuff. So after 257 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:18,840 I had sold my business, he found a bakery for sale in Hawaii. 258 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,159 This is kind of what got me all like fired up for it. So 259 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:26,080 he called the guy. Because I wasn't really going to do this, but 260 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,399 he called the guy and he's a you know, he's in his twenties, 261 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,360 so he could do whatever he wanted. And the guy said, yeah, 262 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:36,039 yeah, I have I have my baker's for sale and this and that, 263 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,120 and but if you want to come here and work until I sell it, 264 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,000 you're welcome to come here and work. So he did. He went and 265 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,759 worked there, and then he started, yes, he did, and he 266 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,240 started calling me like once a month. This is before cell phones, and 267 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,240 and he'd say, Pat's great here the weather or the thing, that you 268 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:52,919 should come here. The bakery still for sale. Bakery still for sale. 269 00:16:53,879 --> 00:17:00,200 So one day we went and visited. And so you we have talked about 270 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,440 moving to Hawaii, yes, but had never stepped foot in the state of 271 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Hawaii. Never. Okay, I know, no, I like this. 272 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:08,559 It's like me with the Maldives. I want to go. I wouldn't live 273 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,279 there, but I want to go. Yeah, okay, yeah. So 274 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,359 anyway, so I think it was maybe a year after that that we decided, 275 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,039 yes, we're going to do this. What's some encouragement for my daughter, 276 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,599 who was, like I said, nineteen, she thought it'd be awesome 277 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,160 to live in Hawaii. Let's do it that And so she was coming, 278 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,039 my wife was coming, and we moved to Hawaii. My son was already 279 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:30,119 off to college, so he wasn't a part of it. When you moved 280 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,839 to Hawaii. Are you buying all new when you get there? Yeah? 281 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,319 Okay, yeah, but you take you got to take family heirlooms and things. 282 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Yeah, we did. Actually, I mean there's gotta be some like 283 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:44,440 pictures now that you say it. We took, we got, we were 284 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,160 waiting. We actually brought our car, okay, then on a boat brought 285 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,680 it over. We brought some furnishings, we brought dishes, photos, stuff 286 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,880 like that. Yeah. Yeah, and we rented a place for a little 287 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,240 while. Then we found and bought a house where what island Maui, Mauie. 288 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,519 Yeah okay, yeah, that looks it was interesting. So how is 289 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:10,680 this living there? Because we always see is the touristy stuff, right, 290 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,359 but when it's your everyday life. Yeah. So what we did was we 291 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,559 opened the bakery there. You did. We did because I mean I still 292 00:18:17,599 --> 00:18:19,359 had to work. I was only forty three, I think forty two, 293 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:25,000 okay. Yeah, So I'm looking to take over a business, and I'm 294 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,319 looking for square footage and property and stuff. And it's like I wanted like 295 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,079 two thousand square feet. I figured small but nice sized, little bakery, 296 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,559 and I started looking at go that's how much it cost for two thousand square 297 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,000 feet, Like, whoa, that's way more than I would have thought. 298 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,000 So I ended up with six hundred square feet. Tiny little thing. But 299 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:45,119 um, we did get the bakery open and we ran it for three years 300 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:51,160 and I sold it and came back. Now, when it comes to what 301 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:56,279 was being made there, because I would assume that there's some differences in terms 302 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,079 of just cultural tastes and things, right, So basically what we did was, 303 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,640 Okay, it's not a blueberry muffin anymore, it's a pineapple macadamia nut 304 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,160 muffin or stuff like that, kind of put a Hawaiian flare on it. 305 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,119 Yeah, And we also put ads out and we said where we were from, 306 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000 and you would get a lot of people come and go, oh, 307 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:15,680 you're from Rochester, are you? Oh, I know, who are you? 308 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:19,880 And a lot of people surprisingly from men and yeah shop there, and 309 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,039 then you know, to come to a little bakery kind of coffee shop, 310 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,640 and a thing was compared to staying at the hotel. Prices were so high 311 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,920 in the hotel and they can come to the little bakery. That's one of 312 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,680 the things I've always heard about WHI how the cost of living is so expensive, 313 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,920 just like milk, for example, is what five dollars a gallon? 314 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:40,960 I had heard or something. I just heard it was nine back then. 315 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,960 But yeah, yeah, everything's expensive, right, you know, but I 316 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,680 remember I always said, flowers the exact same price, except for it's a 317 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,160 it's a twenty five pound bag instead of a fifty for the same It was 318 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,119 like double, right, but you charge more too, so it didn't it 319 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,599 all balanced out for us being the owners of the business. Yeah, and 320 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,039 what was this time like? Like living there right where it's your every day 321 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,799 is different than visiting. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. Actually I 322 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,279 liked it a lot. Okay, got a little homesick. I guess it 323 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:17,039 went home once a year in the winter, okay, summer, yeah, 324 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:22,359 I guess one summer. So yeah, well you're far away, right and 325 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,599 then I mean you're talking holidays and things away from family where it would just 326 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,400 be you. Yeah, we'd have to be in the ocean on Christmas Day. 327 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:33,279 Horrible sucks, but we do remember doing that. Well. It was 328 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,200 always weird. I remember being down in the Caribbean around Christmas time, and 329 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,039 it's very strange because it's a little further east some of the islands, so 330 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:47,759 that it gets darker earlier, but it's warm, and in my mind, 331 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:52,279 warm means longer days because I grew up in you know, the Northeast, 332 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:55,279 and so when you're down there, it was very strange. But that had 333 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:00,119 to be just even. It was just strange to see Christmas lights and m 334 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,720 trees. I just did not jive in my head. But this was your 335 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,240 life for three years. Yeah, and then and then what made you? 336 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:14,240 What brought you back? To his family? So my son's wife had a 337 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,119 baby. Okay, all right, they lived in New Paul's gotta be close 338 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,359 to the grandkid, especially, my wife said, and I'm like, yeah, 339 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,279 yeah, yeah, we do. So we came back and I think 340 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:26,519 within three or four months they moved to Seattle. Like, okay, we 341 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,559 could have stayed. We're closer in Seattle, I know, don't that's like 342 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,640 that's just crazy, wow, I know. And they're still there to the 343 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,119 stay has been there I think twenty Seattle, yeah, because Seattle's just a 344 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:41,000 was it like a three or four hour flight from Hawaiian maybe a little more 345 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:45,839 maybe five five hours probably like California. Yeah, okay, so it's what 346 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:52,279 is it twelve hours or nine hours from Chicago to Mayah. That's uh yeah, 347 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,039 that's a little episode. Uh you come back and then when you when 348 00:21:56,079 --> 00:22:02,119 you come back, you obviously sell the business in Hawaii and you come back 349 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,079 here and come back here and thought, now what, I got to buy 350 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,440 another bakery, and I think my fifth or six or something one, yeah, 351 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,640 and I started looking around and found Leos for sale and I did. 352 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,680 I bought it at the end of nineteen ninety six, so okay years, 353 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,039 yeah, a long time ago. And it wasn't what it is today at 354 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:30,480 all. It was in a rough part of the city basically and very small, 355 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,400 I said earlier when I started. When I bought it, I had 356 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,279 to work every single day trying to get things right. It was just it 357 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,680 was a rack. I mean, the employees didn't care about it. It 358 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,119 was just a lot of work, like a lot of fixing this and that. 359 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,319 And so I did it for a year and got it fixed up and 360 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,200 running fairly smoothly. But then within I guess about eight years, we moved 361 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,680 to where we are now in East rot That's when things now. I told 362 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,359 somebody that you were coming in and they said to me, the best cold 363 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,680 cuts I have ever had or from Leos and I said, well, boar's 364 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,119 head. Now I had worked your son lived in New Palls. I don't 365 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,400 know if you had ever gone to visit, but I worked in a place 366 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,960 called Adams ferrick Or Farms, which was in Poughkeepsie, not far from New 367 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Palls, and they were all boars head. I worked in the Delhi and 368 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,240 that was always the best kind of cold cuts you could get, always the 369 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,519 Long Island, I think, right the company, I believe they are, 370 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,119 Yes, yeah, yeah, so that's all they said to the best tasting 371 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,720 cold cuts ever. They go cut perfectly, it's thin cut. This is 372 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,799 because when we first so I have I have, I have a lot of 373 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,799 really good help right now. I mean I don't do this by myself. 374 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,440 I have some tremendous people. But Sam Deperna, one of our one of 375 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,920 my GM basically knew the Delhi business and stuff. So that's how I kind 376 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,720 of got started with it. And I said, I, you know, 377 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:49,200 we talked about different cold cuts to carry, and we decided, you know, 378 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,200 let's try the boar's head. And I had this guy tell me, 379 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Pat, you're never going to sell boar's head. It's so expensive. People 380 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,240 don't want to pay for it, and I said, well, we're going 381 00:23:57,319 --> 00:24:00,240 to try it. If not, we can't sell it, does it really 382 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440 matter because we're gonna put it on the subs and stuff like that. And 383 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,920 he's like, you're gonna put boards had on the subs. I go, 384 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,079 yeah, goes, that's a waste of money. Nobody's gonna even know. 385 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Time you put mayonnaise and mustard whatever, nobody's gonna even know. Man, 386 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,640 oh man, we do a lot of boards. Well I think you can 387 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,279 tell, well, you can tell yeah, I mean I I always thought 388 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,240 that myself. But but the guy that told me that was a deli owner 389 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,599 and subsher. Don't waste your money on it. It worked that way. 390 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:29,039 He's talking out of it. So when you start Leos and you moved to 391 00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:33,920 the East Rochester location, this is nineteen ninety six. Now Leos is you've 392 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,279 got the whole Delhi will sit down cafe, the prepared foods, what's the 393 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,680 gradual growth and as we said at the beginning, the watermark specialty foods. 394 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,599 When does that come in? Yeah? Good, because you get yeah, 395 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,519 here's the one I'm picking up. You don't sit idle long, No, 396 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,680 I don't. And you know my wife but you don't see him like a 397 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,680 guy who's like, you know, I mean, you just seem like this 398 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,279 is your every day, this is we're gonna do it. There's no there's 399 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:04,799 no can't in you, right right, I mean, I mean, I'm 400 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960 as I'm I'm hearing you. You sold by We're going to Hawaii. Yeah, 401 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,480 there's no can't. Who goes to Hawaii? Who says we're just moving? 402 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:15,000 Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that's amazing, that's a 403 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,279 I think it's a wonderful quality. It's a successful one. And you and 404 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,599 happy, positive, always looking at the positive. I'll make this work, 405 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,759 I'll you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, So you ask about watermarks. 406 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,519 So what happened when I bought Leo's took. I worked that year straight 407 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,319 trying to get it right. And then the building had the bakery on one 408 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:38,200 side, and the other side of the building was a whole bunch of stuff, 409 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000 like junk like stuff that they left like, oh there's an old motor, 410 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,559 there's an old showcase, just push it back there. Oh there's some 411 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,279 old tires from the truck. Oh push it back there. And this half 412 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,559 of the building was just full of junk. And I said now that the 413 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,400 bakery was settled, I said, in the afternoon, after I get my 414 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,119 work done, I'm gonna gold and start cleaning it up. So, little 415 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,880 by little by little I did. I went over there and cleaned it all 416 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,799 up and the dumpster and threw all the junk out and swept it out. 417 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:04,920 And I looked at it and I said, this looks really good. I 418 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,200 could put a business in here. It's empty space. What would I do 419 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,640 at the space? So I started looking for a business to put in my 420 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,400 empty space, and I found Watermark Foods for sale and I bought it and 421 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,640 brought it in there. So you know there's business schools, right, there's 422 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480 people. Yeah, Well, I mean you know Saint John Fisher has a 423 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:29,079 business department. I went to Fisher for communications, and I'm not convinced that 424 00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:33,160 that is needed necessarily. I guess if you're going to be a CEO of 425 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680 some big company, they prefer to have somebody that maybe has some say. 426 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,440 But isn't it the best teacher experience in my opinion? Yes, for sure. 427 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,880 I mean I went to a year and a half at McCay, no 428 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,119 good education. I did go to McQuaid, which was probably good for me. 429 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,920 Yes, cut me on the street. McQuaid. I sent one of 430 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,960 my boys there. I was overly impressed, very impressed, and I thought 431 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,400 it was wonderful and I think the connections that you make there are wonderful. 432 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,319 It's a real I mean, I think there's some people may think, oh, 433 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,440 my quaite, but I think it's a real asset to the area. 434 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Myself. I do too, just totally. But I find that really interesting 435 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,319 that you just I'll put a business in here. Yes, well it was 436 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,640 empty space, no, no, but a business is you know, it 437 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,400 could get a little scary. There's license this and one of the profit of 438 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,400 loss and how do I you know, yeah, I don't think of all 439 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,000 those. Well, no, that's one. I think that's great because sometimes 440 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,079 if you do whatever your expectation is or worries, that's what comes. I'm 441 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,920 a big believer in you know, your brain's a magnet. Yeah, we're 442 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,440 thinking it's going to bring it and so far you're proving it. Yes. 443 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,160 Yeah, And I thought, you know, it was a food distribution company. 444 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,559 Basically they bought and sold food. And I still watchee I could they're 445 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,319 buying and selling food, They're going to these restaurants they could I could throw 446 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,480 my pies on there or whatever. So I'll just it'll kind of work together. 447 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,039 And it actually worked together even better than I expected, because I didn't 448 00:27:56,039 --> 00:28:02,359 realize that now I can buy my ingredients as a distributor instead of yeah, 449 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,160 sure, actually buying, and I can buy and sell sugar and flour and 450 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,200 shortening to other bakeries and we do today. Okay, so but I could 451 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,279 get it at a discount to use for myself. So it worked out really 452 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,119 better than I thought. Yeah, and that's growing a ton too. That's 453 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,960 where does the inspiration come from for some of these things. Let's say you 454 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240 walk in, and maybe that sounds like a silly question, but you walk 455 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:29,960 in, you clean out your garage, there's tires, there's motors. You 456 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,559 clean it out, and then say, I could put a business in here. 457 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,559 Yes, okay, some people may say, forgive me, pat, 458 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,599 but it's crazy right that that would be almost crazy, like you've got all 459 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,880 this over here, why would you want to? But people do say that, 460 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,240 well, yeah, but but you've found a way. You just explained 461 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,559 it beautifully. I get you know, my ingredients and wholesale, and I 462 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:53,839 can take care of things that I can also sell my pies to that. 463 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,400 So to me, yeah, but that's you know, did you talk to 464 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,079 people about this before you did it? No good because they'll try to talk 465 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:08,119 you out. Yes, I'm so, I'm so much. And I don't 466 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,480 think that people mean to I don't think they're trying to be mean. No. 467 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,160 I think they're trying to give you, from their perspective, what they 468 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,839 believe is the best advice. But a lot of times if you if you 469 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,559 listen to it, I'll always think back in my head, I go when 470 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,440 Jesus healed that guy and he said, go forth and tell nobody, because 471 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,599 once you come in and go, my leprosy is gone, it's coming back. 472 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,839 And then you start to put the doubt in your mind. Yes, 473 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,440 you know, that's how I think. And I man, I find that 474 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,839 fascinating that you did that. I really do. I think that's super super 475 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,799 impressive. Thank you. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I just 476 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,400 sometimes I just try not to think it out that much. Yeah, but 477 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,119 don't think too hard. Well, it's it's funny. I hesitates to say 478 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,079 this, but I have a thirteen year old son. He does not live 479 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,279 with me. He lives with his mom out of state called me today, 480 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,880 wanted to see the smoke in the sky. The he had been seen it 481 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,759 on the news. So when he went out and faced time and showed him 482 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,920 some stuff. And then we're talking and I said to him, his grandmother's 483 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,920 gonna have surgery and I'm gonna go down. And he said to me, 484 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:12,240 um, what if it doesn't work out the surgery? And I said, 485 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,440 I don't think that way, right, I don't think that way. And 486 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,039 I said and I and I said, but you know what, maybe people 487 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,519 who do are a little better prepared. I just always think of the best 488 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,359 possible outcome. What's the best possible outcome? And when you said that, 489 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,599 now I thought, yeah, I don't really think that way. If I'm 490 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,680 in, I'm gonna if I'm jumping in, I'm jumping in, yes, 491 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,200 right, yes, and then and it's gonna work and that and that's it. 492 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,759 And as you did with when with Leo's when it started, you were 493 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,039 all in. I mean it was hard. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm 494 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:48,039 sure. And then on top of that, so you're running businesses, but 495 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:55,440 you're also managing the business with employees, and that's not an easy thing. 496 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,799 Hiring firing, figuring things out, trying to teach some are the ways of 497 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,440 the business, that this is how we do it here. And yeah, 498 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,519 I guess you ever stopped to think about what you do? I think it's 499 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,680 just a passion. Yeah, just clearly. Yeah, if you bake at 500 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720 home time, does your wife no? Okay, no, she can't have 501 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:21,319 gluten or dairy or anything anymore, so okay. Yeah, but yeah, 502 00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,440 I don't know. I sometimes I think I had helped from up above, 503 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,200 like father or my grandpa. Who knows they're watching me and they're saying, 504 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,240 Pat, you need a little help here. This isn't I don't know, 505 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:34,240 somebody's guiding me. Who? Yeah, Like who do you owe? Who 506 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,880 taught you the most? I guess would be the question father, your dad? 507 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640 By far? Yeah, because my grandpa passed away. I told the 508 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,119 story before he passed away at the workbench making bread. I was eleven years 509 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:49,000 old, and uh, grandpa was working and yeah, I remember my mom 510 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,880 picked me up at um I was at swim lessons and my brother and I 511 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,440 and she picked me up, picked us up and said Grandpa passed away. 512 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,920 And I'm like, wow, I remember forty sad you know, sure, 513 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:04,920 absolutely so that. But I always say, you know, did he teach 514 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,240 us that this is how hard we work? We work? My father always 515 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,000 worked hard too. Yeah. It was never a day off for him. 516 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,960 He worked every day. I remember when I first got married, my wife 517 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,839 said to me, uh, what day do you get off? And I 518 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,359 said, I don't. I don't think I get a day off. She's 519 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,640 like, shouldn't you have a day off? So I asked my father, 520 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,920 go, Dad, kath he thinks I should have a day off? And 521 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,759 he said day off. I said, yeah, He's just like, well, 522 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,240 well maybe Saturday. Okay, that's what it worked out? It did? 523 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:38,000 Yeah, yeah, did he gave it? Yeah? But was there 524 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:42,839 ever did you ever wish you had to? I mean, clearly it's the 525 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Saturday. But did your dad ever feel like he was missing out but not 526 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,559 having a day off or was this sort of what kept him alive and kept 527 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,279 your dad had? Um? He worked, like I said, tons and 528 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,920 tons of tons, and my uncle's as well. And they built a new 529 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,920 building in Webster and put a brand new, state of the art bake. 530 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400 This is back in the eighties, and they said, once we get this 531 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,079 up and running, because we've been working so hard we're all going to take 532 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:07,480 a month off. Okay, each of us going to take a month to 533 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,920 whatever we want. So my dad was first, and my my mom and 534 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,039 dad. I was older now, I was in my twenties, so I 535 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,200 was married and gone. But my younger sister and brother and my parents drove 536 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,119 to California, and so about a week or they were going to be gone 537 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,119 for the month, and about a week or so end, my mother calls 538 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,160 up, if you had her dad's Blue Cross card there? Why? Oh, 539 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,160 well, he got hurt. What do you mean he got hurt? 540 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,359 Well, what happened? Well, he heard and he had a heart attack. 541 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,599 He didn't die, but he had a heart attack, you know, 542 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,640 just probably from going and going and going for I don't know twenty straight years 543 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920 and then getting time off and just did you ever does that kind of go 544 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,440 in your mind ever yourself? Well? No, no, you just don't 545 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,279 know. I don't think about it. Yeah, well I don't feel like 546 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,680 I have any issues. Help, No, you look great. I mean, 547 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,680 how was Hawaii then? Was that almost like a vacation? Would kind 548 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,799 of midlife crisis I call it? Well, but yeah, okay, but 549 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,320 did you feel like you were sort of a little more laid back there, 550 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,280 or I don't know what the Hawaii I look. I'll go from watching Magnum 551 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,840 Pi as a child and I, you know, maybe the old Hawaii five 552 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,440 oh shows. But the vibe always seemed to be a little a little slower, 553 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,159 a little more relaxed, little slower. Okay, yeah it was. 554 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:27,880 It was interesting to one thing that happened when I was trying to get the 555 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,039 license to to run the bakery. I was having trouble getting it because I 556 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,599 was a Howley. Have you ever heard the term where I was an outsider 557 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,960 the local. I wasn't a local guy. I wasn't Hawaiian, I wasn't 558 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Asian or whatever a lot of them were. And I'm trying to get my 559 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360 license and I can't. I can't. Every time I go down to the 560 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,039 town and they're wow, what blah blah. So one day this guy told 561 00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:51,599 me that there's somebody that you can talk to that could help you, and 562 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,239 I said, okay, and what's his name? That called him? He 563 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,800 goes meet me in the parking lot, So I go, all right. 564 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,519 So I met him in the parking lot as I don't can't remember where we 565 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,960 were, and he's in this white truck and pat, yeah you jowned whatever 566 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,000 his name wasn't He said, what are you trying to do? I said 567 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:07,039 him, trying to rent the space, but they won't give me a permit 568 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,320 to go in. I got the I'm already paying the lease and everything. 569 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,199 He says, give me five hundred bucks, I'll get your permit for you. 570 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,239 I'm like, all right, I'm here in the parking a lot. 571 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Don't know this guy. And five hundred bucks back in nineteen ninety six felt 572 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,880 like at least five thousand, you know, Yeah, sure, I's gonna 573 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,199 give this guy five hundred bucks. But I did, and the next day 574 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:30,199 I got my license. So it was different being in Hawaii. It wasn't 575 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,480 like here. Yeah. Yeah, So there's little things like that. Well 576 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,519 it sounds like things get done a little faster. Maybe what was taking a 577 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,679 while? So that guy got involved a lot of he was or how he 578 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,400 did it? What was the plan when when you bought leos? Was it 579 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960 to take it to where it is now? Or does that just happen along 580 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,760 the way and you go, boy, this would be a good idea, 581 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,559 and this would be a good idea, and yes, for sure, yeah 582 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,719 I am not a planner. Has there been anything that you tried that, 583 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,559 oh, yeah, that did not work? Yeah, a lot of things 584 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,760 like espresso we brought in a few different times and not Oh we could sell 585 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,719 fancy coffees and stuff and it never seemed to work. We brought it. 586 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,719 We made gelato for a while and with a dipping cabinet and all that. 587 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,920 It just didn't seem to work. If it doesn't work, we take it 588 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,880 out and try something different. Yeah, but nothing. Ever, what would 589 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,760 be the maybe the failure that taught you the most, if there is such 590 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,280 a thing, because I think I think we always learn from you know, 591 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:30,440 instead of seeing failure as the word failure. Nobody wants to fail, right, 592 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:32,440 But yet if you can look at it as okay, but I'm one 593 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,960 step closer to what I really want. I know this didn't work. Yeah, 594 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,280 but maybe this will work. Yeah, I don't know. I don't 595 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,360 have a good answer. Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't. I 596 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,480 don't know. I mean we certainly have failed sometimes. Did it teach me? 597 00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,920 Probably a little little lessons, maybe no big lessons, but just away 598 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,119 all these businesses and things and then selling them, and you know that that 599 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:58,599 alone is a successful is successful and stressful, I would assume, no, 600 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,159 not stressful. No do you you don't seem to have much stress at all. 601 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,079 No, No, What do you do as a hobby or for for 602 00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:12,039 pleasure? I wake that is one thing that I kind of I guess maybe 603 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,840 a minor regret I didn't have. I don't have a lot of hobbies. 604 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480 I've always worked, and but it's kind of hobby for me. Sure. 605 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:20,960 I mean today, in this day, the way I work today, I 606 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,880 mean I go in and I always cannot say, well, all right now, 607 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,760 I have a five different manager, store manager, warehouse manager, GM, 608 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,599 bakery manager, and I feel like and it just keeps growing and growing. 609 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:36,079 It's like a snowball rolling down the hill. And my job is just 610 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:37,599 to like push it this way and push it that way, just to keep 611 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,960 it round, just to keep everything right. I don't really have a job 612 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,920 function anymore where I have to bake or I don't. I don't have to 613 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,360 do anything when I walk in the door really other than deal with what comes 614 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,039 up. It's kind of nice, it's kind of nice, kind of nice. 615 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:55,360 Would you also could do any job any Taking back to a few years 616 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:01,280 ago when there were places like yours that may have had to close their doors 617 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,800 because of COVID. Yeah, and what went on there and you didn't No, 618 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,400 we actually, so we had our issues were Watermark Foods, which is 619 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,880 the food distribution side of it, really went down like eighty five. Okay, 620 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920 we laid off about thirty five people. We have I think about ninety 621 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,920 working for us. And because nothing was open, we have no one to 622 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,719 sell to the country clubs, the colleges, nothing was open to sell to. 623 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,719 But Leo's was able to stay open because we were essential. I guess. 624 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,719 Yeah, we couldn't have any seating in the cafe, but otherwise if 625 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,559 it was take take it, taken eat it, we could do that. 626 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840 So we really spiked up because so many places were closed. So Leo spiked 627 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,000 up a lot, and it didn't not enough to make up for all of 628 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,760 Watermark, but it was enough to keep us going and start bringing some people 629 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,199 back. And you know today were Leo's is busier than ever. Watermarks back 630 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,639 to normal, So it was it didn't hurt us at all. Yeah, 631 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,000 because the hospitality business, I mean certainly more restaurants and things got hurt pretty 632 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,440 badly and some of them did not recover and I think it's amazing. It's 633 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,320 it seems like when you when having walked through your i'll call it the plant 634 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:12,719 in the back sort of the it's a it's a very um there's a good 635 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920 vibe. I was going to say, a family vibe. And I don't 636 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,079 know if that that's the right thing, but I like it if you say 637 00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,639 that, if you feel that, because I like it that way, and 638 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:21,679 I think it is that way. I have a lot of people say that 639 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:27,679 whatever you got going on, that calm, positive demeanor seems to permeate that 640 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,760 business. It does. Like you notice the people who are working and the 641 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,199 young lady about a sub and the pleasant when we're in the back and they're 642 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,280 making the cakes, that people are chatting, and they seem happy, happy 643 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,360 to be there, which is I think a very important thing for I do 644 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,400 too. I think it is probably the most important. Yeah, really, 645 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:51,119 And of course not everybody's happy there. We have our moments, for sure, 646 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,480 we're human, Yeah, But in general, try to have that that 647 00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:59,480 happy atmosphere, that family atmosphere. Try to you know, people got to 648 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,760 work for eight hours. They want to come and be miserable or they want 649 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,719 to kind of enjoy it right, and I try to make like I'm enjoying 650 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,360 it, which I am anyway, and it just kind of goes trickles down. 651 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,760 One of the things that I know many people love is the two dollar 652 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,039 bread. I know that that's a big deal. You really sort a big 653 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,000 deal. Yes, I do, it's a big deal. What is the 654 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,760 what's the plan is there? I mean you seem like you've always kind of 655 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,360 got some idea. No, no, nothing, no, just keep going 656 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,159 yes, what the plan is? Never a plan? I never It's never 657 00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:35,679 in my head until it happened. So okay, Like even anything that we've 658 00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,800 done, people don't believe me. But it's not like I had ever planned 659 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,320 any of this. And and I've been asked over the years, hey, 660 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,199 did you ever think it would get this big or whatever? Maybe six or 661 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,360 eight years ago, maybe ten years agoys, I'd say yes, I did, 662 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,960 okay, but today I'm like, wow, no, I didn't. 663 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,840 It's it's huge. It's beyond anything I ever dreamed up. So I don't 664 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,800 know what would be next to you. If something comes in my head, 665 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,079 I might try it or why. I don't know. I'm an old man. 666 00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,559 What do you do when it comes to your to your wife obviously, 667 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,920 somebody who's been truly a partner and all this, which is something like we 668 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,719 hear that term a lot, my partner, my this, but this has 669 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,559 been somebody who's walked in lockstep. You said, let's go to Hawaii. 670 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,599 She said, okay, well whatever, she went right, right. But 671 00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:21,719 I mean all that stuff all the way through to you know, I'm sure 672 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400 when you first bought Leos and all that to have that is got to be 673 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,679 She's an awesome lady. Yeah, pretty awesome, right, I mean that 674 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,400 that makes it all work. It does. Yeah, it definitely makes a 675 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,320 difference for sure. What is the uh? And then, not to sound 676 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880 a little more bid, but what legacy would you like to leave? What 677 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:44,639 would the what would I like to leave? You know, I have a 678 00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:50,599 grandson who's ninetything. Okay, everything, No, but I mean in terms 679 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:53,239 of like when people think of of Leos and years, I mean, I 680 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:59,400 think it's a place where that reminds me your cafe where I would go with 681 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,519 my grandfather other for subs when I was a kid, And it's got that 682 00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,760 kind of vibe where you you're making memories for people. You may not even 683 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400 realize it, but there are people who I love my kid. I have 684 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,360 somebody in Webster saying to me, I go out to East Rochester because my 685 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,360 son loves the two dollar bread and whenever we're in there, we always get 686 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,239 a treat. That's what I was told. That's a memory. Yeah right, 687 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239 I mean I told you about the British cafe where I grew up. 688 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,079 It was the woman was from Britain and they used to have the half Moon 689 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:28,440 cookies. It's a memory. Yeah, you know those are That's really all 690 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,360 we have in life, the feeling, the memory. I think that's pretty 691 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,159 cool what you got. I think it's a little more than probably you're thinking 692 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:37,920 about on the day to day basis. But that's how people associate, right, 693 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400 I mean, when we break bread, what is it it's about. 694 00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:44,320 It's not so much about the food as it is the people and the people 695 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,159 were around and the loved ones. You really kind of bring all that together, 696 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,719 I guess we do. Yeah, that's a that's a good legacy there. 697 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,440 I think I'll take it. Yeah, I like it. That's pretty 698 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,199 good. That's pretty good. But I really thank you. And this is 699 00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:05,840 probably what's the best thing about Leo's everything. I mean, it's just it's 700 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,239 known. It's known so well in town. Like you hear it, you 701 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,440 hear the music, you know it, you know. Yeah, that's pretty 702 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,719 cool of itself. Leo's one on one Despatch Drive, East Rochester, you 703 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,719 can always call two four nine one thousand. That's five eight five two four 704 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:30,039 nine one thousand. I have been enjoying far too many of the mini almond 705 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:35,239 crescents and the meatball cookies. You gotta try the meatball cookies. I'm just 706 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000 saying the meatball cookies, man oh, man oh, and the prepared meals. 707 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,840 By the way, chicken French is. I hadn't really seen it till 708 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480 I moved here many many, many years ago, and it is one of 709 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,079 my absolute face too. I absolutely love it. Yeah, it's probably one 710 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,880 you grew up with, Yes, Chicken French. 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