1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,759 God exists and no matter how bad it gets, it will all be used 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:08,519 for his purposes in the end. I can do my part, but unless 3 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:13,720 the country wants to wake up from this insanity, it will commit suicide. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:23,960 And it's going to be interesting to see how Americans were welcome to another edition 5 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:29,000 of the Chicks on the Right podcast today. Look at who we go? 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Oh my gosh, I love him? He is so great? He is 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,240 is he really? Is it really him? Or you guys, just oh 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,159 my god? How did you get him? How did we get here? 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Just a couple of a couple of Glenn back, Oh my god. I 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,399 mean you barely need introduction, but just to get it out of it way 11 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,679 for the for the losers out there who don't know who this is, for 12 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:06,239 the lucky ones, really for the lucky ones. He is a syndicated radio 13 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:11,040 host, CEO and founder of Mercury Radio Arts, the parent company The Blaze. 14 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,680 He is host of the Glenn Beck TV program. He is the author 15 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,000 of six New York Times best selling books, the latest which we now have 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:25,680 a copy of. What is it? Ten my god? I could wow, 17 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,840 We've got okay apology. But this is the latest. This is the 18 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:36,359 latest it's called Chasing Embers. Tell us all about it, because we haven't 19 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:38,640 had a chance yet to read it. We just got them. Oh so 20 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:41,640 I could tell you anything, Yeah, you can tell us anything. Believe 21 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:45,760 it. Actually, let me tell you why, how the premise came, 22 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,480 and then why I wrote it. This book started. I write stories in 23 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:55,519 my head all the time, and and this one has been in my head 24 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,599 since about two thousand, I don't know, six or seven. And I 25 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 was reading Karl Marx, and if you've ever read Carl Marx, you're like, 26 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,319 this doesn't make any sense. How does anyone believe this? And it's 27 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,120 just all against human nature and everything else. And I thought, what is 28 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:19,039 the draw to him? And in America and the West, I think it's 29 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,199 because you know, he's the rebel, he's the radical, he's the one 30 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,520 against the system man. And I thought, you read him, and then 31 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,400 you read Jefferson or Adams or you know, any of them, and there 32 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:38,039 is such a difference, and it's so clear when you're reading these guys. 33 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:43,960 And I thought, what is it going to take before Jefferson is a revolutionary 34 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:47,599 again? And not the stuff shirt, you know what I mean? And 35 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,080 I thought, you know, I think he's I think it's going to take 36 00:02:52,719 --> 00:03:00,360 the loss of those and making them very unpopular to radicalize them again and have 37 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,479 you know, kids reading it when it's absolutely not supposed to be read. 38 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:09,560 That's no, you don't do that. That's when they'll start discovering these guys 39 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:15,400 again. And so that led me to a series of thoughts of you know, 40 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,759 how do we preserve that for that generation and what could happen? And 41 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,840 so I came up with this dystopian world where a public private partnership has put 42 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:35,000 together these the cities, and everybody lives in these cities and it's all going 43 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 to be great. It's all of the WEF stuff, the World Economic Forum 44 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:45,400 stuff, except it failed. And so these are failing cities. But it's 45 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:52,639 very very dystopian. And the parents who would be you know us now or 46 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,960 the next generation that lived at these times, anyone who just didn't buy into 47 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:05,000 the whole WEF thing, they're kind of liquidated. And so there's a group 48 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,879 of people that have tried to preserve what they could remember and write it down 49 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:19,959 because all books have been banned now and history meets names meets West. Yeah, 50 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:26,120 yeah, it is kind of and and nineteen eighty four as well. 51 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:32,480 And and so these what's left are these kids with memories of their you know, 52 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:39,360 rebellious parents who are just trying to keep record in their mind and then 53 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:43,160 write it down and smuggle it out to the cities, to these rebels that 54 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,480 you don't know much about at first, that are the public enemy number one. 55 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,800 And all they you find out, all they're trying to do is reproduce 56 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:59,680 a library. They're trying to collect all of the history that's now forbidden and 57 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:05,040 tea to their kids in an oral fashion. And so the book takes place 58 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:14,399 in this place called Topos. It's a it's a dystopian kind of I don't 59 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:18,959 know. I always think of it as almost like Ebcot, where nothing's real, 60 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,079 and it's just very dystopian. But these kids, one of them remembers 61 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:31,600 their mom and dad being taken and liquidated, and she wants to be part 62 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:35,680 of the crowd, you know, she's given the opportunity, for some reason 63 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:42,199 by the higher ups to become one of the rebel hunters, if you will, 64 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:46,839 to just mix in with your friends and find out who's sharing things that 65 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,839 you know they shouldn't be sharing. And she's given these kind of these tokens 66 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:59,839 that she can just drop on somebody and it will alert the government this is 67 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,120 a problem child. And then they're just taken away and she starts to get 68 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,759 wrapped up into Look at the power I have. You know, I think 69 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:13,600 everything that I thought I knew was a lie. Meanwhile, another kid, 70 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:20,319 a boy, a teenager, teenage boy, he escapes the city and he 71 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,560 doesn't know what he's looking for, but he goes in and he actually finds 72 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:30,399 these rebels and he's torn on whether to report them or not. And he's 73 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:33,519 just a really screwed up kid, and you find out why in the book. 74 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:42,480 But he's now learning that these aren't really rebels, and all the way 75 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:46,600 through. You know, when MICHAELA and I put this together, we did 76 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:54,199 a lot of research with teens and we told them stories, not like a 77 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:59,680 history feature does, just told them stories about things of history, because we 78 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,680 wanted to include those stories, the important ones in the book. So they're 79 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,759 discovering this history, not taught like a regular history book. To try to 80 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,360 get the reader to go, oh wow, I didn't know that is that 81 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:19,000 true? And look it up and follow that trail nice And so we did 82 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,560 a deal where we would tell a bunch of you know, twelve to eighteen 83 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,639 year old's stories and then we tell them what do you think of this? 84 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:36,319 What discuss And we found some fascinating views on things, and so we incorporated 85 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:44,399 that to try to tap into their mindset on how they connect to different stories 86 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:47,680 of history. And so many of the elements that you just described we've seen 87 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:53,480 over the past several years, like the snitching and the things you know, 88 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:57,560 like looking in looking at your telling on your neighbors, you know, not 89 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,720 suppressing information like that. Yeah, changing information. History is being changed now 90 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:13,519 in real time cheap cheap fakes times. Right now. We are we are, 91 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:18,759 we are. And so it takes the technology that we're now working, 92 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:26,360 you know on, and it takes the all the dystopian things they all run 93 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:31,199 exactly the same, and it's running exactly like what we're seeing. And then 94 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:35,879 take the actual US I mean w e F World Economic Forum plans for cities 95 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,240 and everything else, and takes and plays it out and you know, obviously 96 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:50,039 it fails, but it's still in slaves and has turned people really into slaves 97 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:54,000 and morons. They don't know what's real and what's not anymore. Yeah, 98 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,559 it's do you do the audio for the like, do you do it for 99 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,639 kindle or I'm not a kind about for audible? Do you do the reading 100 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,720 of it? We have been going back and forth on this. I haven't 101 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,320 had time to record an audiobook yet. We've been going back and forth whether 102 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,240 we should have somebody else read it or me, and I've got about that. 103 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,120 I'm I can't wait to read it, but I'd rather listen to it 104 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,720 like in the car or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tell 105 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:30,639 you it is. I think it is the perfect way in for parents that 106 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:33,919 don't know how to teach history, don't want to lecture their kids, and 107 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,000 their kids roll their eyes when they're this is a book they can discover and 108 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:46,440 it's it's really good, and it's an adventure. It's got danger and you 109 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,519 know, all kinds of stuff in it that is yeah, that I think 110 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,200 you really like. And it's a it's actually a six book series, but 111 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,320 we we got to make sure this one works because the stories that you have, 112 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:03,519 the way this whole thing comes about is so great, so great. 113 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,840 I love it. It sounds amazing, you know. I was telling miriamt 114 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,399 Of was selling mock that I rewatched your twenty ten speech, your keynote speech 115 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:20,600 at SEAPAC and how you wrote progressivism on the board and you talked about how 116 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,080 progressivism was a cancer and you called out some people like Soros and Barack Obama 117 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,600 and I'm just you know, and then listening to this the synopsis of the 118 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:33,080 book you just wrote and everything that is wrapped up in it, and just 119 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,639 I don't know the fact that we just talked about living in Orwellian times and 120 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:43,440 I like, progressive. Do you feel like the cancer has spread? Do 121 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,840 you think that do you have do you think it's inoperable at this point? 122 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,919 Like? Where do you see us now? Because I mean that was listen, 123 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,240 that's when we first started our site. It was right after that that 124 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:58,879 you gave that speech, and so I remember thinking, this is what we're 125 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:01,240 fighting for as chick on the right. And I look back on that and 126 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:05,919 I think, gosh, things have changed, and I don't know if necessarily 127 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:09,159 it's for the better, but they should have changed and everything. Yeah, 128 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:13,519 I mean, I know you guys well enough to know that you know that 129 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:18,919 you know, God exists and no matter how bad it gets, it will 130 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,480 all be used for his purposes in the end. So wherever we end up, 131 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,960 it's going to be. He's not surprised by any of this. And 132 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,080 you know, I hope we're not living in the times you know, foretold, 133 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,720 but we could be. Yeah, and we just have. All we 134 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,759 have to do is let me put it this way. When you started your 135 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:46,559 site, are you a better person and citizen today than you were back then? 136 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,200 Yes, sir, I love that question. Yes, Glenn, I 137 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,399 think so, I really do. I've lost, you know, friends and 138 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 family along the way, but I know myself better and I have better and 139 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:03,720 stronger and more robust relationships with people. Yes, I know who I am 140 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:07,639 and that. Yeah. And I know you're living. Yeah, you're actually 141 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,799 living life, no matter how tough it is and how many things. I 142 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:15,120 mean, there's a lot of things I wanted to do other than this. 143 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,559 I didn't. I never got into this business to do a serious talk show, 144 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,879 especially where I'm the doom and gloom guy. That is not what I 145 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:31,240 wanted to do or want to do. But I I have lived an amazing 146 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:39,320 life, and I'm better spiritually, and I'm better as a citizen. I'm 147 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,480 a better dad. I mean, it's just it all is used in the 148 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,279 end for his purposes. I love it well, and I was I was 149 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,120 going to ask you, you know, a piggybacking off of that, I 150 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:56,080 was going to ask you if you felt more cynical or optimistic about the country's 151 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,279 future. But it sounds like instead of either of those, you're just saying, 152 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,279 let go and let God. Yeah, you know what I mean, 153 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:11,159 And that's actually reassuring. Yeah. I immediately felt, well, I should 154 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,519 have done that earlier. The uh, the uh. You know, I've 155 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,960 gotten to a point to where, you know, I've always said on the 156 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,480 air that all I am is a reader of the signposts, and I'm just 157 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:28,039 saying, here's the mile marker, here's the time to the next exit. 158 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,960 But I've said, at some point we're we're out of exits and it's just 159 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,519 going to go over the cliff and that'll be an interesting ride, and we're 160 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,960 we're there to where there are exits. But only with God, only with 161 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,480 really disciplined people, people who have studied, know what they know, know 162 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,960 what's true, will anchor themselves in the Constitution and the Declaration and the Bill 163 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,360 of Rights and then just go through hell. But do what they have to 164 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:07,919 do, uh, to make sure those things are preserved in one form or 165 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,080 another. And you know, my I have a I have We've had some 166 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,360 bouts with suicide in my family from the beginning, and then I've had three 167 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:26,559 of my four children have serious spouts with them. Uh and uh. I 168 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,759 took one of my my children to a psychiatrist who I thought at first was 169 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,159 I heard he was the best, and I thought, when I hear when 170 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:39,279 I heard him, I was like, you're insane. And he said, 171 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:48,200 your son knows what you're afraid of, and he said you got to get 172 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,759 past that. He said, so what are you afraid of? My wife? 173 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:54,320 And I looked at him, went, I don't know that he's dead, 174 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,120 and they said. He said, okay, so let's play this out. 175 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:03,720 They commit suicide, what do you do? And we're just well, 176 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,639 we we mourn and uh huh and then what, well, we probably blame 177 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:11,759 it on each other for a while, you know, because we don't we 178 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:15,000 don't know how to deal with it. But then we get help and then 179 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,799 we get through it, and then we probably I don't know, write a 180 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,559 book about our son and suicide and and uh, and then we probably do 181 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,919 a tour and we try to help other people and he said, so you 182 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,879 make it. We were like, yeah, we of course we make it, 183 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,960 but we don't want that. And he's like, hm, you need 184 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,879 to tell him now you're not afraid of it. That's his decision. You're 185 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:43,919 not afraid of it. And we were like, uh, wow, no, 186 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:50,519 I don't think so. Yeah. It was terrifying, and so he 187 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:54,200 brought my son in and we sat down and he said, let's just play 188 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:00,480 this out. You're dead, what happens to you? Well? Nothing, 189 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:03,799 I'm dead, okay, And then we talked about religious stuff and then he 190 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,559 said, what do you think happens with your parents? He said, I 191 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:14,399 don't know, And so we started talking and went through the whole thing and 192 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:21,799 said, there's nothing we can do. This is your choice. This will 193 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,559 always be your choice. We can tell you we love you, we can 194 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,039 tell you all these things, we can help you in any way, but 195 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:36,679 unless you're willing to live, there's nothing we can do. And so we're 196 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,279 just not going to live in that fear anymore. Yeah, and when you 197 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,679 have problems, we're not going to take them on as our problems. We 198 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,799 will help you, but then we will we'll end our little time together with 199 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,399 it's going to be interesting to see you work that all out that way. 200 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,759 It's not ownership on us, it's on you. And it changed him, 201 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,880 it really, I mean, it was remarkable. And I'm not suggesting that 202 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:10,680 anybody else does that because it was terrifying. Yeah, but it worked with 203 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:15,319 us, and we've decided that that's the best way to look at everything in 204 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:21,079 life. You know, the country might be suicidal, might be I can't 205 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,799 stop that. I can do my part, but unless the country wants to 206 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,440 wake up from this insanity, it will commit suicide. And Andy, it's 207 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,440 going to be interesting to see how Americans work this out. Yeah, you 208 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,480 know, that's this is one of the reasons that I really that I that 209 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:44,079 I love you is because you're because you're vulnerable. You like, you're not 210 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,599 screamy. There are a lot of screamy people out there and doing what we 211 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,559 do, there are a lot of not I mean, and there's a I 212 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:52,200 guess there's always feel like I'm a screaming well, I mean, there's this 213 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,680 there's a space you have more of a like a gentle, like a cerebral 214 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,680 gentle way about you. And is that do you find that to be difficult, 215 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,880 like to be vulnerable and to share personal stuff, because we just kind 216 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,680 of started in the past couple of years doing more of that. That's because 217 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,440 it's hard to put yourself out there and to share personal stuff. Because so 218 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:22,680 I have a really interesting I can't relate and tell you because I didn't start 219 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:29,480 doing that. I started in radio when I was thirteen, so and I 220 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:33,720 worked all the time. So my best friend was this the microphone. Yeah, 221 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:38,599 and I could say anything into it and it won't reject me. The 222 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:47,200 audience might, but it won't. And so I've I, you know, 223 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:56,720 always talked about personal things. But what happened in nineteen ninety five probably was 224 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:03,559 I was doing Top forty morning radio and I was I just I couldn't play 225 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:08,000 Britney Spears one more second, and I just, I mean time, I 226 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,440 got to the point to where I would say, yeah, yeah, just 227 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,440 one more time. I got to the point to where this is this is 228 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:21,880 how I would DJ the records say there's another super super classic from What's Her 229 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,759 Face? And all of the songs were that because I just didn't care, 230 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,160 and I didn't care if anybody fired me, and I couldn't do it anymore. 231 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:36,240 But we were talking about something and on the air, and it was 232 00:19:36,319 --> 00:19:41,160 an event of something. It might have been the Clinton scandal or something, 233 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:47,119 and a caller said, what do you know your mister goody two shoes? 234 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Because I was known at the time as clean cut, you know, all 235 00:19:49,759 --> 00:19:53,640 American blah blah blah. That was the image that had been created. But 236 00:19:53,720 --> 00:20:02,799 I was a raging alcoholic for most of it and and just not a good 237 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:07,759 guy, just not a good guy. And I said, they said, 238 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,359 what do you know you're mister goody two shoes? And I said, you 239 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,559 know, let me tell you something. And the whole room stopped. Everybody's 240 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:18,119 like, oh, dear God, what is he going to say? Here 241 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,559 we go? And I said, you don't know me, nobody knows me. 242 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,799 Let me tell you about me. And I was actually, in a 243 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:33,160 way, I think, trying to end my radio career. But the opposite 244 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:38,000 happened. People started coming up to me and saying, I cannot believe you 245 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:41,559 said what you said about yourself. And then they look around and go, 246 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,519 but let me tell your brother. I've been there. Yeah, I know 247 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:52,720 what you're talking about. And we were all hiding from our darkest selves when 248 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,680 we're all struggling with the same basic things. Yeah. And so if you're 249 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,240 if you're willing to take if you're willing to be completely honest and say, 250 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:04,880 yep, this is who I am. Like it or not. There's parts 251 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:11,200 of me I really don't like, but that's who I am. And your 252 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:21,200 audience understands you. They know, generally speaking, when you're telling the truth, 253 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,799 you know, because they'll they'll find all these inconsistencies and be like, 254 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:30,200 wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. And as long 255 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,079 as you've done your homework on yourself and you know who you are, you 256 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:36,920 guys know this. You know who you are, you know what you believe, 257 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,880 and you're not so strident that somebody couldn't come, you know, on 258 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,480 and say, you know, I got to challenge you on that, I 259 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:53,079 think you're wrong. If you're willing to listen, and if they make a 260 00:21:53,079 --> 00:22:00,119 good point that you can't diffuse after thinking and researching and everything else, and 261 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,759 you should come back on the air and go, you know what, I 262 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:06,240 was wrong about that absolutely, and here's my thing. And you've done that. 263 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:11,839 Yeah, I've done that a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 264 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:15,839 And you've you've you know, you've talked very very openly about your struggles with 265 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:21,200 alcoholism, drug use, and and just illness in general. So how are 266 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:25,119 you like today? How are you? I'm good. I'm probably better than 267 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,240 i've been in well, better than I was even when I saw you guys. 268 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:33,799 Really really, I'm probably better than I've been in five years. That 269 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:38,640 that's great. I had a just a turning point. You know. There 270 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:44,559 are times when you just get You're just like I just I just want a 271 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:49,960 bag of Oreole cookies with women. That's about one thing. You're speaking our 272 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:53,799 language. Yeah, I mean, it's like there's just times that you just 273 00:22:53,839 --> 00:23:00,920 need a bag of Oreole cross and uh and yeah, yeah, I eat 274 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:07,799 them by the bag, the bag. But the bag. Why do they 275 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,880 have to make like pumpkin flavored ones now, like they have all different flavor 276 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,559 Why do you have to do that? Why? That's that's the problem with 277 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:19,720 America. We have too much choices. When I was a kid, we 278 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,519 were happy with one Areo cookie, one flavor, and we liked that was 279 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:33,400 seventy. Yeah. One of the things that we loved so much about coming 280 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:38,640 to see you at the Blaze Studios is the museum and all the artifacts, 281 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,279 the historical artifacts that you've collected. What how did that start and like, 282 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,799 what would you say is your most prized item in the whole way about the 283 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:55,680 museum? My god, I don't think I can answer the most prized because 284 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:06,079 it's so fast. Now it started in two thousand. Uh, well, 285 00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,640 it actually started with my kids. My kids. I hated history when I 286 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,759 was growing up, hated it. Really. I cannot believe that, because 287 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:18,240 it's all I cannot believe that. Oh, did you like history a little? 288 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,400 Yeah? You know, I memorized the names and the dates and where 289 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,160 the battle was. Really, that's my fourteen year old, Like my fourteen 290 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,960 year old daughter, she loves it. That's like her favorite subject. It's 291 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,839 crazy. But yeah, so I'm surprised that you didn't. You're so ol. 292 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Yeah. No, I hate it like ye, well, because I 293 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,920 learned to love it because I learned. You know, the word history has 294 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,240 the word story in it. Yeah. Yeah, why aren't we focusing on 295 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,079 the story of history? And if you do that, then you know, 296 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,519 forget about the dates. It was seventeen ninety one, No, it was 297 00:24:55,559 --> 00:25:00,640 seventeen ninety two. Okay, nerd, you know, nerd, argument stop, 298 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,440 I don't I don't need, I don't care. What was the argument 299 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:08,240 about which side one. What did they do with it? What did the 300 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:14,079 losers do? Walking away? You know what happened? Why were they Why 301 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,480 did this come up? That's all a human story. And when you focus 302 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,519 on the human story, it's so much better. I could tell you. 303 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,200 You know, they tried to teach us George Washington chop down the cherry tree, 304 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,119 and he couldn't tell a lie, and he had wooden teeth. None 305 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,400 of those things are true. Let me tell you two stories. First, 306 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,920 he didn't have wooden teeth. By the time he was president, he lost 307 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:45,640 his last tooth. His teeth were rotting out of his face. He had 308 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,319 for a while a metal contraption in his mouth that looks like something that Steve 309 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Martin would have been installing in Little Shop of Horrors. Okay, it was 310 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,640 horrific, Okay. And the reason why I his painting, the paintings of 311 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,160 him always kind of mouth kind of like this, is because he was trying 312 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,160 to hide. He was so embarrassed by his teeth. And so when he 313 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:17,319 became president, he just he was so embarrassed by himself that he wanted to 314 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,319 he wanted to do something. So he went for the latest thing, which 315 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:30,160 was drilling holes in your gums and then implanting teeth in there in hopes that 316 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:38,880 they would grow good God right, no anesthesia, nothing, nothing. And 317 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:45,200 so it takes this guy who wooden teeth. What does that say anything about 318 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,799 it? That's not even true. Why this takes a guy who is a 319 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,400 giant among men and humbles him. He's embarrassed by his own looks, and 320 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,920 because he believes the president should look a certain way way and be distinguished, 321 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,519 he goes through that. Now that's a much that's a much better story than 322 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,200 wooden tea. Yes, it is. Never tells, yeah, never tells 323 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:18,880 a lie. Let me just let me tell you the story of Gosh, 324 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,680 I'm thinking about so many of them. Let me tell you a story. 325 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:29,960 I was with the head of the American Museum of the Smithsonian, and I 326 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:37,160 was looking for specifically things about George Washington that were negative because I can find 327 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,279 I can tell you that before Abraham Lincoln, you know, his mom raised 328 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,799 him. He was terrified of his father, but he really because his father 329 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,759 was like you will believe in Jesus. As he's beating him. He falls 330 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,920 away from the church and he goes dark, and there's a period of Abraham 331 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Lincoln's life where he's with prostitutes and everything that you've never heard about Abraham Lincoln. 332 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,960 Okay, but then he finds himself and he finds God. Okay. 333 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,960 I can find that stuff on anybody. I cannot find that stuff on George 334 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,440 Washington. So I'm going to the Smithsonian to meet with the American the head 335 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,319 of the curator of the American Museum. And I said, I'm desperately trying 336 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,960 to find something on Washington. That's bad because I believe that you have to 337 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,480 understand the story, understand the story of America. You have to understand the 338 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:38,240 Tuskegee experiments, and you have to understand the true meaning of the Declaration of 339 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:42,759 Independence. Okay, all men are created equal. You have to understand both 340 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:48,200 sides. If you're surprised by the bad things all of a sudden, America 341 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,559 has no credibility. Okay, because wait a minute, I didn't know about 342 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,559 that. What else are they hiding? Yeah, So what are you hiding 343 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,640 about George Washington? He said, Oh, I have something, he said, 344 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,960 but we've only on one thing. And I said, what is it? 345 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:03,839 He said, comarrehit, I'll show you. And so he took me 346 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,799 back into the archives and he pulls out all these drawers and there's just these 347 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,759 little thin drawers and he pull one out and he'd be like, oh, 348 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,680 there's George Washington's you know, baptismal gown, and you know, here's this, 349 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,880 and here's that. And I'm like okay. And he pulls out a 350 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,599 deal and it's a newspaper and he says, this is the worst thing I 351 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:30,319 can find on George Washington. And it's an editorial right before his uh second 352 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:37,920 election. Okay, somebody writes in that George Washington is a monster. And 353 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:44,279 this person must know because the editorials written by his mother. Okay, his 354 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,720 mother was this. Yeah, his mother was this giant pain in the ass 355 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:56,119 where she was just like because she was just she was a nightmare. And 356 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,759 she always like, oh, George, you cannot leave me, you can't 357 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,359 go away. You know, all these stories of him just acquiescing yes, 358 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,640 mother, dear, Yes, mother dear. Oh so she wants him back 359 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,000 at Mount Vernon and so she writes this editorial and says, you have no 360 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:18,799 idea. You cannot elect this man again. He's the most extravagant man you 361 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,599 have ever met. And you'd be horrified if you knew the details, just 362 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:29,920 the details, this is it? Just the details on how much this man 363 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:37,920 spends on ice cream every month alone should disqualify him. Oh my gosh. 364 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:51,920 And now we have Nancy footstep that brilliant brilliants. Okay, so I have 365 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:56,720 to know your favorite interview of allSome besides us, besides interviewing with us, 366 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,000 obviously, because I did enjoy were I know, were the pinnacle of your 367 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:07,359 career besides us, I don't have fun very often. It's good. Who 368 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,599 would you say would be like the I guess the highlight when it comes to 369 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,319 interviewing somebody or somebody who was on your bucket list? You were like, 370 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,559 I can't believe I just interviewed this person, because I mean, I know 371 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,079 you're you, You're Glenn freaking back, you know, but but like, 372 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,960 who who would be like a person that you interviewed that you were like, 373 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,599 I cannot believe I just did that, or or just maybe not maybe not 374 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,119 somebody who's famous that you just really enjoyed interviews? I don't know, can 375 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:40,240 you? I don't know? I know you know, nyeah, I interviewed 376 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:45,720 a guy who was one hundred and six maybe oh my gosh, he remembers. 377 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:51,519 Yeah, he remembered Woodrow Wilson. Wow, he remembered. Oh my 378 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,640 gosh, he remembered. And he had perfect recollection. This guy I thought 379 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,519 was going to live to you know, one hundred and ten. How did 380 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,599 you meet him? And how did you how did that happen? He was 381 00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:07,079 I think he was a fan of the show. And he called in one 382 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,799 time and They're like, he's you know, he's and I'm like, he's 383 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,079 not that old. Come on and got him on the phone, and then 384 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,920 we brought him in and he was fascinating because he could remember where he was 385 00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,440 the stock market crash, he could remember where he was, uh, you 386 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,480 know, World War two beginning and the end. It was amazing. That 387 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:35,359 is amazing. Wow. The the other guy that I have I never interviewed, 388 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:42,960 but I became friends with. That was the first name that came to 389 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,240 mind, but not an interview is Billy Graham. Yeah. Billy Graham was 390 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:59,559 just it was such an honor to meet him, and I was He invited 391 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,720 me to his house for some reason, and I had been praying on something 392 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:07,359 and I had just said to one of the guys in my office, I 393 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,559 think I'm supposed to. I think I'm supposed to talk to Billy Graham And 394 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,079 they said, well, did you call him? Did you reach out to 395 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,440 him? And I'm like, yeah, Billy's not taking my phone calls right 396 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:27,160 now, called yeah, yeah, and uh. And that later that afternoon 397 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,160 he his office called and asked if I no, I swear to you saved. 398 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:37,039 Same day his office reached out and said that he would like to meet 399 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,759 with me and my family that following Sunday. So we had an hour to 400 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:49,200 go up and we ended up six hours up with him, and he was 401 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,160 the most remarkable man I've ever met. I remember, you know, he 402 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,680 asked me to share my testimony with him, and we were both crying, 403 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:04,480 and he was talking about how you know, we're all going to make mistakes, 404 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,759 We're all going to make mistakes. He's like, every mistake I made, 405 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:13,599 and I have made so many were because I wasn't listening. He said, 406 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000 every accomplishment does not belong to me, and he meant it, he 407 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:23,519 really meant it, and so humble. And he said, but I know 408 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:28,239 where I'm going, and he said I know who I serve, and he 409 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,400 said, I am not afraid of death. The whole dying part has me 410 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,480 a little worried, but I'm not afraid of day what happens after? Right? 411 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:45,079 Yeah, So is there someone go ahead? I'm sorry I'm saying. 412 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,280 I was just going to ask you if there's someone that you aspire to interview 413 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,400 that you haven't had a chance to talk with yet, or have you just 414 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,320 checked off your entire bucket list you want to talk to. There's so many. 415 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,039 I'm doud he's doing interviews. But for the longest time I wanted to 416 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:06,000 interview Clint Eastwood. I still would. I'd love to talk about him. 417 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,679 Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. I just I don't know why. 418 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,760 We've reached out and reached out and reached out. And and it's funny 419 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,920 because he was at CNN doing an interview when I was at CNN and one 420 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,760 of my producers was in the hallway when he was walking with a group of 421 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,719 producers and my picture was up on the wall, and he stopped and he 422 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:39,800 went that guy. I like that guy, and then just started walking away. 423 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Let's talk. Can we talk? Yeah? But and the and the 424 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,360 the current one is Elon Musk. I don't know why I can't get an 425 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880 interview with Elon Musk. But we've been in touch with each other back and 426 00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,320 forth, but we just never seemed to do not know, he's aware of 427 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,960 who I am, and that may be the problem. That may be the 428 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:08,400 problem. Glenn. It's always just such a treat. I mean, I 429 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,679 feel like we're old friends now because we've been to visit you in person, 430 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,760 and I know we've only talked twice, but it feels very familial, and 431 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,719 it's just you are a Troy. Thank you. Thank you for taking the 432 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,079 time. Oh my gosh, you guys are the best. Thank you, 433 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,920 thank you. Thank you for all of all the stuff that you do and 434 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920 all the joy you spread. That's so sweet. That's what we're trying to 435 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,320 do. That is what is precisely our goal. And it was just a 436 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,679 joy talking to you. Thank you, Glynn. Thank you for a couple 437 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960 of whores. You're nicely true A couple that's true.