WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:35.960 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. So I went back to woky dot com 3 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.679 to see if they've got any new information about these severe storms that are heading 4 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:47.479 our way, and nothing added since Actually they updated something at three point fifty 5 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:52.600 eight. So it looks as if south of US there could be some severe 6 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:57.719 thunderstorms coming in within the next next fifteen minutes or so. I guess that's 7 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.679 Hart County, Kentucky. I believe that south of US, so I guess 8 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.560 it's heading this way. They did just cancel my son's baseball games, which 9 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.879 has nothing to do with you know, they're not getting any inside info at 10 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.359 the Oklahona Baseball League that you know, the meteorologists don't have, but when 11 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.280 he's supposed to play it. It was about when it's expected, I guess 12 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.359 to be really really crazy. But yeah, stay safe everyone. But anyways, 13 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.799 when I went back to WKY, I saw a news story that I 14 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:32.280 that I that I have been distracted by. So there was an ice cream 15 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:38.680 spill on the interstate this morning, so in overturned semi shut down eastbound lanes 16 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:45.920 of I two sixty five near Jeffersonville. Earlier this morning, Indiana State Police 17 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:52.120 Sergeant carry Holes posted on Twitter around five fifteen am that all eastbound lanes were 18 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:56.840 shut down, I mean all shut down. Near the seven point six mile 19 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:02.719 marker. There was a semi truck that spilled and turned over seventy thousand pounds 20 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:07.159 of ice cream across the interstate. How's this not a begger story? Imsion? 21 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.639 They should be leading the reason, oh man, for wherever you're going. 22 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:14.319 That's that's what I wonder if you would know, like is it is 23 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.879 it packaged? Is it? It's probably not. I mean they have to 24 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:22.240 keep it frozen, right, So I would imagine you may not have even 25 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:23.479 known if you were sitting right in front of it when it happened, and 26 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.560 you're now, you know, five hours late to work or something because of 27 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.199 it. I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if you didn't even know what it 28 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.159 was. Unless it's like a semi that has like, you know, what's 29 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.120 a big ice cream brand? Greaters? Yeah, Greater, a big Greater's, 30 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:39.479 you know, semi, then you would probably guess that's what it is. 31 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:43.319 I don't think they'd be carrying, you know, pizzas in there if 32 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.560 that's if that's the semi truck. But yeah, I've never I've never seen 33 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.879 a semi in person, meaning like I've seen stories about them because they always 34 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.240 make the news when it's something random that's all over the interstate that has you 35 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:59.719 know, impacted traffic and whatnot. But I've never seen one in person. 36 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:05.439 But like, if it's something that's I'm just trying to you know, maybe, 37 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.879 uh what what would be something that if if it did fall out of 38 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.560 a truck like it could, it would be exposed to where you could clearly 39 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:15.000 see what it is and it's everywhere the ice cream even if it did fall 40 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.039 out like it would melt like you wouldn't want to put it in your car. 41 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.960 It would make a mess. I'm just trying to like, like a 42 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:23.560 submit could people probably could people come out and grab something and like be in 43 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.560 trouble because they're not going to mean whose property is it now? When it's 44 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:29.919 all over the interstate, you know what I mean, Like, I guess 45 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:31.919 it's still yours and you you just you know, you obviously wouldn't sell it 46 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.039 anymore, but you know it's yours to decide what has done with it. 47 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:43.240 But yeah, I'm petty enough whenever I see five lanes of traffic, have 48 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.439 you know, come to nearly a complete stop and we're moving it one mile 49 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.840 per hour and you finally get up there and see that it's like a minor 50 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.759 fender bender or maybe somebody in the middle lane ran out of gas or something 51 00:03:54.560 --> 00:04:00.360 like. Nobody's having a worse day at least not many or having work stays 52 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:01.960 than those people. So for like a moment, I feel for them, 53 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.800 and I'm like, come on, you probably were on your phone and rear 54 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.560 end of them, or you know, how do you not know that your 55 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:12.680 gas light's on? So if I'm there and I'm late because I'm impatient, 56 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.719 I'm a lunatic when it comes to that kind of stuff and I see that 57 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:16.560 it's ice cream, Like I don't know wh I'm gonna be mad at. 58 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.360 I guess the driver, but it's gonna feel like the most wasted you know, 59 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.800 time ever you hear that thunder? Is that thunder? Oh oh, 60 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.279 it's time man. That for us to hear it in usual with headphones on, 61 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.040 Yeah, we don't usually hear that. That was I mean, that 62 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:39.800 was that was distracting and four oh eight on a on a Wednesday afternoon. 63 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:44.240 Yeah, it's heading this way, so everybody be safe, all right, 64 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.079 It is our number two here, Coffee and Company feel about Thorton's on Sports 65 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.240 Talk seven ninety. Make sure you sign up to become a member of the 66 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:53.720 Thornton's Refreshment Awards Program if you haven't already. You can save money every time 67 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:57.439 you're at the gas pump and take advantage of all the perks that come with 68 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.279 being a member the Frequency Club. There's certain items that if you purchase him 69 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.560 each time you stop in. That's why you stop in. Well, when 70 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:08.240 you get to a certain number, you get one free. So again one 71 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.000 of the many reasons why you should have already been a member long ago of 72 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:16.199 the Thornton's Refreshment Awards Program. All right, So the latest name to add 73 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.439 to the mix here, actually two names I guess we should add to the 74 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:20.879 mix. One one is a name we've already talked about. But Coleman Hawkins 75 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:26.439 is the guy we talked about earlier that Matt Orlanders now reporting that Louisville among 76 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.360 I think it's North Carolina, Arkansas in Kansas State, they're going to be 77 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.000 pursuing him. He's I don't know where he ranks as far as players available, 78 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.040 but Louisville clearly needs a big. He's a six to ten guy that 79 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.879 can stretch the floor, knock down three point shots. It's a good rim 80 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.879 protect or two and I don't know where Louisville stands among those schools. But 81 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:51.399 sounds like Coleman Hawkins the former Illinois. Actually, what's the the the former 82 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.160 a Liini is that is that what means he's a fighting He's a former fighting 83 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.879 a LINI just sounds weird to say, but I guess that's what it is. 84 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.759 But he is. He's in the draft process. By all accounts, 85 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.839 wants to stay in the draft, but nobody seems to think he's going to 86 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:10.279 get any feedback that's going to make that decision to stay in the draft a 87 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.759 wise decision. So I think the end of the month, actually I need 88 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.000 to look into when that deadline is as far as win guys have to to 89 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.680 because it's the NBA here, the not the nc douaa. I mean, 90 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.800 the NBA is the deadline where you've got to let them. I don't know, 91 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:26.800 maybe I'm wrong, maybe they do, maybe they have two deadlines, 92 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.240 but he is a fifth year guy, so he's already entered the portal. 93 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.639 Therefore, when he does decide, if he does decide to remove himself from 94 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:39.240 the draft, I guess that's when you'd probably start scheduling visits. So that's 95 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.720 one thing I didn't mention earlier that somebody brought up on the text line. 96 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:46.040 And it's a good observation because he is so dead set on the NBA draft 97 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.839 and that's what he wants to do. Unless he's told that, he simply 98 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.920 will. You know, there's no chance of getting drafted. He is somebody 99 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.279 you may have to wait a little while. But I think Louisville could get 100 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.079 great, oh sibor. I think they could get Let's say they get the 101 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.160 young man who's visiting this weekend, the high school kid, well, he's 102 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.600 going to be a college player next year. The four star from the twenty 103 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:12.560 twenty four class. That is Kahani Ruth's, So you could get him and 104 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.439 Osabor and I think still be able to sell a big role for Coleman Hawkins. 105 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.560 And you'll probably still have some money available, and you know it could 106 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:24.759 still work. Yeah, I don't know what the deadline is because I just 107 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:28.120 found him. Is it more on the NBA side or the college side. 108 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:31.879 So the NBA has to have in writing that they are withdrawing from the draft 109 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:36.120 by five pm Eastern Time on Sunday, June sixteenth. Oh wow, there's 110 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.959 a lot of time. There is there an NC DOUBLEA one? It's a 111 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.639 good question, because, yeah, that would be and it used to be 112 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.639 stupid to where I mean, there are one of the many one are the 113 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:54.279 countless things that the NC DOUBLEA used to just have in place, a rule 114 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:01.800 that just was made no sense and only made life harder and more difficult for 115 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.120 student athletes that they exist for, right, the existence of the NC double 116 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.319 A is to is to create you know, you know, a I don't 117 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.439 know, I butcher trying to be corny and like, you know, wholesome, 118 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.279 but like they are. It only exists for student athletes college athletics. 119 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:24.720 So here here's the NC DOUBLEA early entry withdrawal deadline, which is May twenty 120 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.000 ninth. Yeah, at eleven fifty nine. So so what's the difference between 121 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.439 the dates. I guess if you want to play overseas kind of thing, 122 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.000 yeah, because I think you can only enter the draft one time. Yeah, 123 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.440 I can actually be in the draft. So and it's not happening as 124 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.320 much now. In fact, I don't think we've talked about it on the 125 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.919 show, but the G League ignite is ending like they're not doing that anymore 126 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.440 because it was not a successful stint for them, and players being able to 127 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.200 make money changed that the need for that. I mean, it just that 128 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.840 was that was their angle, was that hey, we can actually you know, 129 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.360 that was why I was so stupid that this commission on College Basket there 130 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.159 was a joke anyway, you know, I actually threatened Adam Silver, like, 131 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.879 you know, if you don't change the rules so these guys can go 132 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:13.559 right out of high school and eliminate all this shoe money cheating, we will 133 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.559 make it a requirement for freshmen to have to sit for a year before they 134 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:22.519 play, which was such a baseless, nonsensical thing to even consider. But 135 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.080 it also I mean I remember thinking like Adam Silver's like, okay, yeah, 136 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.279 please do that, because what I will do is I will actually give 137 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.000 value to the G League because nobody's going to go to college and sit for 138 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:37.840 a year if they're potential NBA players. Thank you, NCAA commission, dumbasses. 139 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.360 So I guess there's guys that did go the G league path. Like 140 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.799 there's a kid, was it Ron Holland or did he end up going to 141 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.360 college? I think Ron Holland was the latest guy from last year's class that 142 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.559 went the G League night path. There's also a foreign guy that did it, 143 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:54.840 and I guess that's for them, Like they could come back to the 144 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.440 G League and not into the draft if they don't think their draft stocks good. 145 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.200 So I guess that's what that would exist for. But the NCAA used 146 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.879 to make it to where you couldn't test the waters because you'd have to let 147 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:09.399 the NCAA know by a certain time what you're doing. And that deadline came 148 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:15.480 before the NBA actually could give you feedback and have you invited to the combine 149 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.240 and all that. I mean, it's it's just a I mean, it's 150 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.840 a it's a rerun, it's a recycled opinion. But man, n s 151 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.000 DOUBLEA over the years has done some really really stupid stuff that again not only 152 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.840 did it not make sense, you were as almost as they existed to try 153 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:39.440 to make everything more difficult for college athletes. All right, let's see the 154 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.039 the the other name I wanted to throw out real quick, just because it 155 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.639 sounds as if Louisville is still in the mix here, and that is uh 156 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.919 Ugo Ugana and Yensu the former Kentucky big man. So Trilli Donovan says that 157 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.559 it's it's Oklahoma or Louisville and that his price is three hundred thousand dollars, 158 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.240 which again to me, that's just like okay, yeah, sure, maybe 159 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.279 maybe we'll give you thirty grand buddy, Like that's not a knock on him. 160 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.679 I just who's paying for that? Like? Who? Like when I 161 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.919 say three hundred thousand dollars take away Ugo because like you watched him play like 162 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.080 I did at Kentucky. But just somebody that is that, you know, 163 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:22.919 somebody that has these stats so last year at Kentucky Ugo who, by the 164 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.360 way, let me be clear, I hope Louisville gets him. They need 165 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.000 more depth. He's a great rimp protector. And you know you right now 166 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:33.480 have no other five other than James Scott. So he averaged three point six 167 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:41.600 points and four point eight rebounds last year in eighteen minutes per game. Who's 168 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:50.360 paying three hundred thousand dollars for that? Who? So? I mean it's 169 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.320 almost like he's probably not gonna end up anywhere, if that's literal. Like 170 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.919 that's why I refuse to believe these numbers are real. Therefore, I think 171 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.440 it's probably a very smaller number than what's reported. And everybody just looks like 172 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.840 it's like they're fake. It's like an illusion that they're really big time free 173 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.919 agents getting the bag, which, you know, whatever makes you feel better, 174 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.320 but like, don't insult us with that, Like you're not getting three 175 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:18.559 hundred thousand dollars to transfer to Louisville or Oklahoma when you played nearly twenty minutes 176 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:24.440 a game last year and that is what you did. So that's not a 177 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.840 great way for me to emphasize that. I do hope he comes to Louisville, 178 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.200 but I mean, like it's just insane. And if you remember last 179 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.039 year, he hit the portal too and came back to Kentucky. You know 180 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.519 why, because they were back chasing and he realized, oh yeah, like 181 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:41.240 nobody's gonna pay me more than Kentucky because you know when they're Kentucky. And 182 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.000 also like I'm not as an attractive candidate, so I don't hope that he's 183 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:54.919 like a big priority but again, you you might turn him into a big 184 00:12:54.039 --> 00:13:00.679 priority for a brief moment if you're Kelsey, because you just need a body, 185 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.320 right, And it actually works out to where if you're going after another 186 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.759 big guy a five, they're not gonna be scared of you Ugana and Yinsu 187 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:16.279 like they're just not. So who knows. Hopefully they add somebody here soon, 188 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.399 but I'm not. Look, I'm not. I know they need to 189 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.279 add more front court players, like that's a no brainer, that's not even 190 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.919 a conversation. But I think they're in with enough to where if they get 191 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:35.000 two of like the five we've discussed, then you know they'll you know, 192 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.360 it'll change a lot of things. Now, obviously, if you get Coleman, 193 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.240 Hawkins and Great Osivor, that's a totally different conversation. That's like best 194 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.600 case scenario. So we'll see how it plays out. But again I'll say 195 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.799 it, probably more than I need to. I think James Scott will be 196 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.840 a factor on this team, regardless of who they add in the front court. 197 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.960 I think he's got he's got tools that will be utilized here. And 198 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.159 I think, honestly, if there was only one guy they were gonna bring 199 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.600 from Charleston. It would have been him no offense to Rain Smith, the 200 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:07.240 guy who's a really good shooter who I think, will you know, probably 201 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.480 be the best shooter on this team. That's what he does. But they 202 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.679 love James Scott, they love his upside and uh, you know, I 203 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.720 think he'll play regardless of who they bring. All Right, so let's see 204 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.039 here, we don't have a whole lot of time left in this first segment. 205 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.320 Here. Let's go to the text line. I do want to get 206 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.159 to this whole NBA NFL player debate that everybody in the in both leagues seems 207 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.679 to be sharing an opinion on. But let's go to the text line again. 208 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.279 That'll give us some time here to uh to finish strong here in this 209 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.480 In this segment, it says, Nick, do you think JJ Trainor would 210 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:46.000 come back? I see he's still posting stuff on ig that he is working 211 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.039 out on campus. I feel like I'm having major deja vu. Did I 212 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.399 read that yesterday somebody? I don't think. Did somebody bump their text? 213 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.159 Okay, I'm having really Maybe because I saw the Instagram post you're talking about. 214 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.120 Maybe that's why I feel like I'm having deja Vu, But no, 215 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.399 I don't think he would come back. I feel like if that was something 216 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.240 that was potentially possible, that we would know by now. But he's going 217 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:11.679 to The Paul. It'll be a fresh start for him, and uh De 218 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:13.440 Paul, Chris Holtman, I should say, has put together a pretty good 219 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.840 class. Uh, they're gonna be better. Like Chris Holtman, I don't 220 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.120 think he's a great coach, but like De Paul, will not be as 221 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.879 dreadful as they were the last few years. Now will they ever have sustained 222 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.320 success? I don't know. I think him deciding to go there as a 223 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.960 surprise to me, wouldn't you say, like DePaul's De Paul. Like I 224 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.519 can't believe Chris Holtman chose that. Yeah. I feel like he could have 225 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.960 had better offers elsewhere. A lot of coaches would have set out a year 226 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.080 and waited for a better offer than going to the Is he from He's no, 227 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.799 he's not from Chicago. He's from Kentucky. That doesn't make sense location 228 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:50.879 wise. He's from Nicholasville. And uh I know the ad at the AD 229 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.200 at De Paul is what is his name, Dwayne Pevee. He used to 230 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.960 be the assistant ad at Kentucky, which, by the way, I don't 231 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:03.320 know Dwayne Pevee, don't know them at all. But when I think of 232 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.440 Dwayne p Dwayne Pev, I'm gonna think of one thing forever. When he 233 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.879 hired his last basketball coach, the two guys he offered the job to were 234 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:18.200 Kenny Payne and Tony Tony Stovelefield. Like, dude, think about that, 235 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.879 Like just I mean, I'd resigned. I would. I would. He 236 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.840 probably will get fired if Chris Holtman doesn't work out. Yeah, but I 237 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.279 think even right now, it was a good move for him, right, 238 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:30.120 like the fact that they could get him. So I don't know, Like 239 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.320 obviously, Holtman has not worked at UK and and I think he's been away 240 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:41.679 from the state in his profession since since high school. But maybe there's some 241 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.240 level of like a Kentucky connection there, you know, because Pev was a 242 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:51.480 Yeah, but yeah, duaye, Holtman has added some some solid pieces that 243 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.200 you know, should make them at least, you know, far more competitive 244 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:56.759 than they were and the bars low because they've sucked for I mean, they're 245 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:00.919 they did beat louisvillelat year, which is crazy to think about they only won 246 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.960 three games and one of them was Louisville, which is insane, but they 247 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.599 you know, they're they're in a situation where like Louisville had a nightmare two 248 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:17.680 years stretch. De Paul's kind of been that for like ten years, right, 249 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:18.960 Like, I'm sure they've been head years where they were like closer to 250 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.640 five hundred, but like they've sucked for a long time. So if they 251 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.519 come in this year and they're like battling for five hundred, that's going to 252 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.440 be like new life for them. And I think Holtman's the guy that could 253 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.880 do that. So you know, with JJ, I actually think he would 254 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:40.519 he would be able to play the way that Pat Kelsey wants to play. 255 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.000 I think Louisville could probably give him a better nil situation than DePaul could. 256 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.200 But you know, I JJ just wanted a fresh start, and I totally 257 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:56.039 get it. This young man got here in his first season whenever no fans 258 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.079 were here because of COVID, they had a bunch of games canceled. I 259 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.559 mean, he went through who else came in that year with JJ, because 260 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.039 certainly there was nobody on the roster this past year that was with that. 261 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.319 You know that that got here at that same time because JJ was here from 262 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:19.759 two thousand and twenty one to twenty twenty four. That's the worst stretch in 263 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:25.839 the That's the worst four year stretch in the history of Louisville basketball. So 264 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.559 fresh start absolutely understandable for him, and I hope he has success. There's 265 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:36.880 also the other side where you could think, Okay, you know what, 266 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.079 I love Louisville so much. I am from here, my dad played here. 267 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.359 I can't have it in like this. I got to do one more 268 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.799 year, and I know it will be better than we ever were. So 269 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.480 but but you know, he probably said that when he decided to play for 270 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.279 Kitty paying for the second year. He probably decided to I mean, probably 271 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.920 decided that same thing whenever Kenny was hired. So I would I wish he 272 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.839 would have stuck around, But you know, I think he's content with his 273 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.759 his final In fact, j J could have two more years. He he 274 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.279 gets a COVID year, which gives him this extra year that like he's playing 275 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.920 now because this is his fifth year, but also he red shirted. He's 276 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.480 he's gonna apply for a medical red shirt this year, so he could have 277 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.160 two years left if he wanted to, So all right, quick break, 278 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:26.000 we'll come back on the other side. Keep the party going. It is 279 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.759 coffee and Company, and we are fueled about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk 280 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:34.160 seven ninety. One of the things I love about the text line is it's 281 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.640 a platform through Google Voice. For those who don't know what that is, 282 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.440 but it it's a you know, it's just like having a I mean, 283 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:47.000 I can log into it on on the desktop here in front of me, 284 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:51.599 and you know, every number that is texted in, like your entire text 285 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:53.480 from every text you've ever seen, is right there on you know, within 286 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:57.279 within that thread. So with that, I could actually at times reference like 287 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.559 as somebody you know, kind of in on like having fun or they or 288 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.880 they being a jerk, you know what I mean. Like sometimes you know, 289 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.359 you can't pick up sarcasm. At times I've thought, Okay, well 290 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:08.799 that's that's something that's funny. That's somebody who gets the show. And then 291 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.920 I'm like, wait a second, like they could just you know, maybe 292 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.440 they're just you know, maybe they hate me. I don't know, but 293 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.039 anyways, this person who has been kind of you know, has had some 294 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.880 fun with us on the text line before says Nick, there's no doubt if 295 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:25.839 Ugo was just listening to that, Louisville is definitely gonna get him, which 296 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:29.240 I didn't. That wasn't my point of saying that, but you know, 297 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:30.960 it was just trying to motivate him, you know, like let him know, 298 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.000 Hey, you want that three hundred K. You gotta work, son, 299 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.559 You got to get in the weight room. You gotta you know, 300 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:42.960 develop some level of offensive, you know, life. So I feel confident 301 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.880 that he was not listening, So there's nothing to worry about. But yeah, 302 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:49.319 that that it took a turn. I just was mentioning him as somebody 303 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.319 Louisville could go get, and then I talk about the money, and then 304 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:53.880 I'm just you know, it's because I don't believe any of the money that 305 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.799 people throw out there as far as what these guys are getting in the portal. 306 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.480 And it's not to say that they're not getting any money, it's just 307 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.359 I who would do that like you, Cause here's the thing, there aren't 308 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.359 that many dudes in the portal that like, you have to have or you 309 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:18.319 will suck. So I just think it's at least at times half of what 310 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.039 you hear, and we'll probably never get the full number, and it is 311 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.720 a little muddy as far as how it had to be done. But I'm 312 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.799 sure if you're a Kentucky fan and you're a Louisville fan as well, you 313 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:37.039 probably heard Oscar Shiba when he came back to school for his second year a 314 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.839 Kentucky after winning the national chance, after winning the National Player of the Year, 315 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.039 that he got two million. Like you heard that, right, John, 316 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.240 Like that was kind of like it was just it was talked about by 317 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.920 a lot of people. I heard he wasn't even a million, And like 318 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:55.400 the person who would know who told me that would be somebody who would have 319 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.480 a lot more information than most about that. Now, when I say his 320 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.599 had to be done differently because he wasn't a US citizen, he you know, 321 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.359 they had to get creative as far as how it got done. But 322 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:08.319 you know, it's closer to write at a million than it was two million. 323 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.880 So anyways, we'll move on. Let's talk about somebody that's gonna help 324 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:17.319 you save a lot of your money when it comes to the process of moving, 325 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.319 buying and selling a home. That's my friends at Etland and Eland. 326 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.160 Check them out. Online Eland dot com give them a call. 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And this is Austin 343 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.599 Rivers, who former NBA player I think played for about ten years Doc riversun 344 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.880 He went on with Pat McAfee and I don't even really know the context as 345 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.680 far as how this became, like how this even was discussed, but here 346 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.640 is what he had to say. He says he could take thirty players right 347 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.759 down the NBA, throw them in the NFL, and they they play. 348 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.359 He said, you can't take thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA, 349 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.319 where the best athletes in the world are. That's us. I could 350 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.680 take thirty players right down in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. 351 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.920 You cannot thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA. Woh five on 352 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:02.720 the court, let's just all break every play, catch the ball and run. 353 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:04.799 So there's more to it, and we don't need to hear that. 354 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:10.759 But this has turned into again, I feel like it's an annual thing where 355 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.319 one athlete on one side, whether it be basketball or football, says something 356 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.440 like this, Oh, this is this. I've never this is that. 357 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.359 That's a different level of just you know, that's that's something he's clearly very 358 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.799 passionate about and doesn't believe as an opinion. He believes it's a fact. 359 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.880 The realities will never know because they it's not. It's not something that we're 360 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:33.319 going to go find out about. But the NFL players are the ones who 361 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.440 I think are the most defensive about this kind of stuff. And it's because 362 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.640 they're they're they're on the they were on the attack, they're now defending themselves, 363 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:48.000 right like, and I don't I don't think either would make sense. 364 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.000 Right Like, if you're a professional football player in the National Football League, 365 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:59.119 regardless of what position you're at, you're not training like you're you're basically you 366 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.680 know, unless you're like a punt or a quarterback. Now, because a 367 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:06.000 lot of those guys don't run, some of them do. But just randomly 368 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.160 throwing a guy in the NFL that's an NBA player, or throwing an NFL 369 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.839 player in the NBA randomly like it doesn't make any sense. It wouldn't work. 370 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.400 Now. The real question that is a better question that again we probably 371 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.240 will never get the answer to, is if you took a Lebron James and 372 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:23.240 said for three months, you are not touching a basketball we are going to 373 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:27.759 train you to be a receiver. That's a different conversation. And yes, 374 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:33.640 I think Lebron James could absolutely be a dominant receiver in the NBA or in 375 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.119 the NFL, I should say, And I don't think that's a hot take. 376 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:38.200 I don't think that's crazy. Lebron James is one of the most gifted 377 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.839 athletes that has ever walked on this planet. And he played football too in 378 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:51.400 high school. Now, because football is a true, violent, physical sport. 379 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.079 I say this all the time about football. I love it, don't 380 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:59.200 want to live without it in this world today in twenty twenty four. If 381 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.200 you introduce this sport today, they would not let us play it, especially 382 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:08.759 not with guys built like automobiles. I'm serious, they wouldn't. They would, 383 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.240 There's no way. And it's still relatively new in the grand scheme of 384 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:18.240 like society. That's like we're learning just now about like CTE. So you 385 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:23.440 know, it's such a it's it's a violent sport and it takes a tough 386 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.119 son of a bitch to be able to play in the NFL. I don't 387 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.240 think anybody would deny that. Oh maybe Austin Rivers would because he's mentioning, 388 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:32.359 you know, you don't have to you only have to run with the football. 389 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.519 You get to take a thirty second break every play like That's that's just 390 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:40.319 idiotic to say, and it's insulting to NFL players. But you know, 391 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:47.319 I don't think that NB NFL players believe that a guy like guys don't want 392 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.160 to That's one thing. But like if an NFL if a if a basketball 393 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.000 player and this has happened, Actually, if a basketball player like mo Ali 394 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.559 Cox who played it Baylor, or legendary tight end and Antonio Gates who played 395 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.839 college basketball at Kent State, did not play football, those are guys who 396 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:11.160 have created NFL careers for themselves and they never played in college, so they 397 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.240 clearly went through training to get more comfortable and have had successful curse. George 398 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.920 Fant, kid from Bowling Green, played at WKU, was a great basketball 399 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.599 player at WKU. One year with Jeff Brom decided to, you know, 400 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.000 use his year of eligibility and try football out. Was an offensive lineman. 401 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.000 He's been in the league for like ten years now, Like so's it can 402 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.720 be done. But I just think you know, there was some you might 403 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.319 have been cash Daniel. You guys remember that name who played at Kentucky, 404 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.799 played football for Kentucky. You know, he said that he doesn't think there's 405 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:45.000 a single guy in the NBA that could get through fall a fall camp in 406 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:51.319 the SEC. That's a macho masculine thing because clearly the sport they play is 407 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:56.279 violent and it is. It's it's there's no comparison to it unless we're talking 408 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:02.160 like mma, you know what I mean, Like the physical within the world 409 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:07.000 of football at the highest level and the physicality in the NBA different like this 410 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.799 not even the same planet, right, So I think everybody knows that, 411 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:17.160 including NFL players. So they get so defensive because again, they do go 412 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:22.599 through a much more physical sport than any basketball player would ever go through. 413 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:30.680 But outside of the physicality, that's where I think it gets more interesting to 414 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:36.039 discuss, because it's not to say that these guys couldn't do it, it's 415 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.240 they've ever done it because they play basketball. That's how they make millions of 416 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.119 dollars. They don't make millions dollars playing football like you did. So I'm 417 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.240 a little I don't know, I don't want to say like I'm annoyed by 418 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.240 it, but football players won't have the conversation because again they get hit and 419 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.880 basketball players don't. And to them, that just makes it to where, 420 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.799 you know, anybody not playing football and it comes to sport, a bunch 421 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.319 of sissy boys, John, a bunch of pansies. That's just the way 422 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.599 it is, getting the weight room. And look, I'm you know, 423 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.319 I'm mocking it, but like it is a you have to I think have 424 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.839 some level of I mean, it's it's again, it's a violent sport. 425 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.279 I mean I was a whimp grown up playing football was the only sport between 426 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.960 baseball, soccer and you know basketball, all that stuff included that I didn't 427 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.319 try because I knew I wasn't built for it. Yeah, so I mean 428 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.119 I would have not been good at anything in football. Also, I wouldn't 429 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.119 I wouldn't want to get hit. Also, what I could tell you, 430 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.160 I wouldn't like wearing pads like that, would I do? You know, 431 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.599 I guess you get used to it, but like it feels like a hindrance. 432 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.119 So I think when if we're just going to talk about like skill sets 433 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:45.119 in the two sports, that could translate like in the NFL, I don't 434 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:51.279 think there's a whole lot that you can see from a football player, even 435 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.039 the best doing it, that will that will give you a level of like, 436 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.319 yeah, we could put him here and play this spot, you know 437 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:02.000 what I'm saying. And in football it's a little bit different where you can 438 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:07.000 look at a guy who is I'm sorry other words. Basketball is a little 439 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:08.279 different, like you can look at you could like, for example, like 440 00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:15.400 you may have a receiver that's a six or four receiver, built like an 441 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.960 NBA two guard. We don't know if he can dribble the ball, can 442 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.079 he shoot? Does he have hand eye coordination? Like, it's a different 443 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:27.640 world on the football side. I just I have a harder time believing that 444 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:33.799 somebody could just flip the switch and go do it because when you're going from 445 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.599 basketball to football, Yes, you still have to have skill, right, 446 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.680 you have to have the ability to make amazing catches, you know, to 447 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:47.400 throw the football with precise accuracy, you know. But really it's about speed, 448 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.880 athleticism, strength. I mean, I don't want to make it sound 449 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.960 like you don't have to be smart to play football, but you can be 450 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.440 a legendary player and be a genie and a guy that understands the game knows 451 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.960 the game, but you might actually be that legend because you're a monster, 452 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.039 you know what I mean. Like, you know, if there are guys 453 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.000 who may be monster monster as humans, but if they're not tough enough and 454 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.799 if they don't really know how to play with technique, then they wouldn't succeed. 455 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.839 But I just I again, I actually think that when it comes to 456 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:25.680 basketball players, you can look at certain guys with their their their physicality, 457 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:32.160 meaning they're built like you know, a dump truck, and you know they've 458 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.920 got the size, height, weight, and you've seen them on the basketball 459 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.799 court. You know they have enough quickness. You can tell a lot about 460 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.799 a basketball player. I mean two things that stand out pretty quickly when when 461 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:48.079 I watch basketball players, especially big men, footwork enhances. So I actually 462 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.119 think if you again, you know, get somebody with repetition that's been an 463 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.119 NBA player that has that has i mean proven to be one of the best 464 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.559 athletes, like athletes on the plan it and you put him at receiver, 465 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.720 put him at tight end. You know it. Don't don't mean they'd be 466 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.079 good at it, but like I think it's it would be something that would 467 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.440 be an easier transition than putting a football player, you know, as your 468 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.279 point guard. Now, if they've played both sports their whole life and they 469 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.920 just picked one, it's a totally different situation. But it's one of those 470 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.720 great debates. You know why. It's great because it never ends, and 471 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.519 nobody will ever be proven right or wrong because we'll never find out. I 472 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:30.359 mean, I think some other debates that that in sports. I mean, 473 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.480 well we actually already know the answer, but like should Pete Rose be in 474 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.200 the Hall of Fame? You know, because he better on the game? 475 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.599 You know that kind of stuff. So I don't agree with anything that Austin 476 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:46.960 Rivers said, but I think that there actually would be a better percentage chance 477 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.200 of somebody make players in the NBA making that transition, but really only at 478 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.759 like certain positions, right, Like, I don't know if there's a if 479 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.720 there's many, if any dudes in the NBA, there are probably some that 480 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.559 would like be great offensive linemen, right or even quarterbacks, right Like, 481 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.960 That's it. Like, there's a lot more positions in football, and each 482 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:10.440 of those positions I think require an entirely different skill set build everything. Meant, 483 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.000 you know, as far as what you're seeing, what you're reacting to 484 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.839 in basketball it, I mean, especially now, a lot of it's positionless. 485 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.359 So like, if you've got unbelievable god given talent as far as an 486 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:30.160 athlete size, speed, and you've you know, shown the ability within basketball 487 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.799 to have good hand eye coordination, agility, I think you'd have a better 488 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.240 chance of turning that player in the basketball side to an NFL player than you 489 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.960 would the other way around. But again, just my opinion, all the 490 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.839 NFL players want to kill. Austin Rivers, by the way, with me, 491 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:50.000 sounded not like a douche necessarily, but totally he sounded like a man 492 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.799 on a mission with what he was doing when here. And here's what's crazy 493 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:58.839 is that he already has this image that like I at times have believed was 494 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.279 unfair because he a rich kid who his dad played and coached in the NBA, 495 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.240 and he's super talented, played in the league and was a fine player. 496 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.400 But like he's looked at this rich daddy's boy that didn't really have to 497 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.920 you know, grind his way up in the NBA like everybody else, which 498 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.079 I'm not even saying is true. But then like when you see that hear 499 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.440 that reaction in the way he said it like I can. You know, 500 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.639 maybe people think that because of how he acts more than any other thing about 501 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:23.960 his you know, his background. All right, quick break, we'll come 502 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.960 back on the other side. Wrap of the four o'clock hour. Keep it 503 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.079 rolling along. It's Coffee and Company feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk 504 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.599 seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a Wednesday? 505 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.039 Is it Wednesday? It's Wednesday? Right it is? When this week's 506 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.239 gone by, fast man. I was not expecting that post derby, but 507 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:45.079 yeah, it's flying flying right by again. Coffee and Company feel by Thornton's 508 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.039 here on a Wednesday. And now much time left here in the four o'clock 509 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.599 hours. So we've been very active on the text line today. Let's do 510 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.000 the phone lines now. Let's welcome in Jerry, who joins us here on 511 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.400 Sports Talk seven ninety. Jerry, how you doing, sir? That's going 512 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.480 Nick? Hey, y'all done? Doing all right? My man? Good? 513 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.320 Uh. I got a question and then I got a comment questions about 514 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.599 about football. He's talking about football. Are you gonna let your son play 515 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.599 football when he grows up? He wants to play, so he has some 516 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.400 cousins that are that are that have been playing in some form or fashion, 517 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.280 mostly flag until recently. And yeah, he uh, I mean he's gonna 518 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.960 play. I mean, I'll probably be nervous as can be, but he 519 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.760 wants to play. He's only three, but he wants to play. He's 520 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.599 seen his cousins play and his mama wants him to play. So yeah, 521 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.440 I don't know if he'll be any good, but he'll he'll give it a 522 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.960 go. There you go. I'm just curious. I got a grandson, 523 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.920 I got grandsons about a year younger than him. It's gonna be interesting to 524 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.519 see how how that's all done down the road. It won't be my decision 525 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.559 because I'm just a grandfather, not a father on that deal. So anyway, 526 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.280 my comment earlier, you were talking about Clemson going to Clemson the fans. 527 00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.719 Uh you you said that you'd always heard they were welcoming, come party 528 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.199 with us, blah blah blah. Isn't that what you're saying? Yes, 529 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.639 okay, my take on that is. And I'll give you a couple of 530 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:14.440 different perspectives real quick. I always say this, it's always easy to be 531 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.840 a good sport when you're winning. Okay, and they and they're and they're 532 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.480 winning. Let us rip off about four in a row. Not that that'll 533 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.639 ever happen, but if it did, and then go to Clemson and see 534 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.880 how you're received, It's not it's not gonna be the same, I promise 535 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.079 you. I got a brother in law that's from West Virginia and they hate 536 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.719 Clemson. You know, uh, they hate them with a passion. And 537 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.119 I know West Virginia fans don't have a good reputation either, but they they 538 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.880 swear that Clemson fans are every bit as bad as as their own. Yeah, 539 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.360 okay, Jerry, I can see that because you know, I think 540 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.199 when they're doing the kumbah ya, Oh come on, we're all having a 541 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.480 party together, it's because they don't really respect you, and they think, 542 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.360 oh, you got a cute little program, welcome to town. We'll we'll 543 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.480 show you around, you know, maybe give you a beer or two. 544 00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.599 And then if they ever yeah, I wouldn't doubt that at all. If 545 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.000 they started then see you as a real threat and competition, then it changes, 546 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.519 I'm sure in a major way. There's no doubt in my mind. 547 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.880 And and and I'll give you two quick ones. I think you're probably too 548 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.079 young to remember much about Bobby Knight, correct. I remember him. I 549 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.119 remember him being the coach at Indiana for sure, and I remember knowing he 550 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.760 was a legend. But at the time, at the end, you know, 551 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.599 he wasn't having a lot of success. But yeah, a lot of 552 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.320 the you know, the legend of Bobby Knight, from top to bottom. 553 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.079 It's things I learned way after he was he was coaching. Okay, so 554 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.719 so Bobby Knight and Bobby Knight versus Denny Crumb. Denny Crumb had his faults. 555 00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.719 I'll never say he didn't. But one thing about Denny Crumb is this, 556 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.440 he treated the handshake with the opposing coach after a winner or loss exactly 557 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.199 the same Bobby Knight. Nowhere near the same. Okay, he would he 558 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.679 would give you a quick, hard handshake and fly by if he got beat. 559 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.840 He's not gonna give any opposing coach a minute's chance to say anything to 560 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.880 him. That was his way. That was the way he did things, 561 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.400 and I never respect at him for that. He was a hell of a 562 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.159 coach. Jimmy Crime the total opposite, you know, he was. He 563 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.119 was the ultimate sportsman when it comes to that handshake. One more thing, 564 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.039 I always felt like coach K having played for night, I felt like he 565 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.800 was sort of the same. I think he's a phony. I always thought 566 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.400 Coach K is a phony, and and and and I'm not I am the 567 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:29.360 I am an ultimate Louisville fan. I do not like Kentucky. But the 568 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.519 night that duke in Kentucky played and Christian Latner hit the shot, I was 569 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.840 at work that night, I had to work, and uh, and I 570 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.920 was listening to Kawood on the radio, and after the game Showshewsky made it 571 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.559 a point to go over because it was kve Wood's last game that he ever 572 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.079 called. And and he he he, he slabbered all over Kwood. And 573 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.760 I always I always told people, I said, if he'd have lost that 574 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.079 game, no way in hell he'd went over there and been cordial with Cabood. 575 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:00.440 There's no way. And I'm not a cat thing, you know, 576 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.440 he could care less. But but but I think Kay is a phony. 577 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.599 I always did. I think that. Uh. I feel the same way 578 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:15.239 about Tony Bennett. I think he's he's so I don't know sure it'd be 579 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.079 good that it can't be true, you know, I just can't be fo 580 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.719 boy. But anyway, that's all I got. I appreciate it. Thank 581 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.280 you appreciated Jerry. Yeah, Tony Bennett, I don't know if he's a 582 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.760 if he's a good guy, bad guy, whatever, But Tony Bennett is 583 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:35.119 I've heard him yell at refs and it's not like he you know, tears 584 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.920 him down verbally like nobody else, but like it doesn't really fit actually does 585 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.960 Okay, so he he'll he'll get on him and just be you know, 586 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.400 just all over him. But he also kind of does it in a way 587 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.199 as if, like you know, he's like a whiny, like snob kind 588 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:53.840 of thing. But yeah, the Devil Sweeney and he mentioned Clemson Devil Sweeney 589 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.920 is is somebody that, like I do respect the fact that he is. 590 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.320 He's not changing who he is or anything of his beliefs at all, And 591 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.679 you know, I think it's stupid. I think it's gonna lead to Clemson 592 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.039 clearly falling notches down than where they once were. But like, if anything, 593 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.800 he's sticking to you know, sticking to his guns. But you know, 594 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.719 to me, I feel like he's he's one of those guys that you 595 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.760 know, when he does lose, he's usually kind of you know, the 596 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.760 worst about it, which I thought that's where Jerry was going with that. 597 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.880 But let's ye know, we're late for a break here, let's get out 598 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:29.480 of here, but we got another hour coming, so stick around, don't 599 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.079 go anywhere. It's coffee and company. We are fueled by Thornton right here 600 00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:32.079 on Sportsbox seven ninety