WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.639 Then we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a five seventy l a sports 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:08.880 streaming live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. Get the app, listen to the 3 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.080 podcast, stream the show wherever you go, put it in your pocket, 4 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:16.199 and take us with you. Because we just feel warm and fuzzy when we 5 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.079 are, so we want to be part of the show. We do, 6 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:24.000 we do. You know, I'm watching a lot of this, this pre 7 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:28.719 All Star Game, pre Home Run Derby stuff going on, and you're right, 8 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:32.399 Fred about the baseball it feels it feels different. It feels different the 9 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.520 All Star Game for baseball than than the other ones. Like, first of 10 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.799 all, football is done, they don't they don't have a Pro Bowl, 11 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:43.600 and it's like not even it's just fun and games and amusement park stuff. 12 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:48.520 And the NBA is just it's I don't know, I don't know. You 13 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.039 can't even really describe the NBA anymore. But baseball still feels like it's like 14 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:58.159 the little kids and the guys really still enjoy being there and being around other 15 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:03.520 guys and talking about stories and being a part of it. And we'll get 16 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:04.359 to that coming up in a bit. Yeah, we got to do it. 17 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.400 Yeah, don't forget. One week from today, one week from today, 18 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:12.239 just one week away. Now, we'll be at Hollywood Park Casino doing 19 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:15.879 the show noon to three. Austin Barnes will be on the program. We're 20 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.239 giving away tickets as well the tails on our Instagram at a in five seventy 21 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:25.239 LA Sports Hollywood Park Casino, located across from Sofi Stadium. You must be 22 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:30.159 twenty one to enter. All right, So Lawrence frank just still, I 23 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.959 think, is addressing the media and kind of filling everybody in on what's going 24 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.400 on with the Clippers. Let's start with this. He was disappointed, quite 25 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:44.640 frankly that Kawhi Leonard was on the USA basketball roster and then he was off. 26 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.359 He basically said, I understand they have to do what they have to 27 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:52.480 do, but it's still disappointing. He wanted to see Kawhi play. So 28 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.560 USA Basketball made that decision, Rodney, they decided it. See, I 29 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.840 didn't understand how that came down. I didn't know if it was USA BA 30 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:07.040 basketball or was a joint decision mutual decision with Kawhi and and and USA basketball 31 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.240 that he wasn't he wasn't gonna play. He was going to focus on getting 32 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:15.120 himself healthy or whatever. I didn't know it was one sided, fred I 33 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.639 didn't. I thought it was like a mutual thing. Well, Rodney, 34 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.960 I believe it was Shamas who said is yes. USA Basketball ultimately had the 35 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.879 final say, but the NBA, the league, and the Clippers were on 36 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.439 board with Kawhi not playing. Was the initial reporting. Yeah, so it's 37 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.520 interesting that Lawrence Frank said, we were disappointed and we wanted him to play. 38 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.319 Yeah, weird, weird how he's coming out now and saying that. 39 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.360 And Tyler los an assistant by the way, Tyler Lo's an assistant coach on 40 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.240 the team right now too. Yeah, he's had the first hand experience of 41 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.919 what Kawhi is or isn't doing, or how he looks. Yeah, he 42 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.199 get keep him out of this drill. We're only going to play him five 43 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.400 minutes. I mean, Tyler Louis got as much say as Steve Kerr when 44 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.520 it comes to his guy. So that whole situation is really interesting. Yeah, 45 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:02.000 I found it fascinating. It kind of sounds like they cut him right, 46 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:07.680 That's kind of what it sounds like. They watched him and they believed 47 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:13.719 that he couldn't give them what they needed, so they cut him. I 48 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.479 don't think I've ever heard of that before with USA basketball at this point, 49 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:22.759 with a player of that magnitude. No, That's why I wrote it off 50 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.319 and didn't think a big deal because I was like, well, because we 51 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.560 all thought it was a stretch for him to play anyway, right, he 52 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.759 hadn't played. There was controversy, you know, he didn't couldn't finish the 53 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:35.080 year with the Clippers. Why is he playing USA Basketball with Clipper fans be 54 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.360 up in arms, And we had that whole discussion, and many people did, 55 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.039 you know, should he even be playing? And he's is he taking 56 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.120 a spot? And you know, kind of all that came into play, 57 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:47.919 and then when it came down and he wasn't, it was like, Okay, 58 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:52.680 they cooler hills, cooler heads prevailed and they just looked at it and 59 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.560 go, let's just focus on getting Kawhi healthy for next year. Clippers are 60 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.319 on board. Ty Loo's the coach, as Kevin mentioned, give it. 61 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.879 Just get somebody else in there and take the spot. But the way Lawrence 62 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.879 Frank is saying that they they dissed him, he kind of did him wrong 63 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:13.159 a little bit. What would possess them to do that. It had to 64 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.800 be something in the way he was practicing. Don't you think what else could 65 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.040 it be? Lawrence Frank said that from what he understood, he looked fine 66 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:25.240 in practices. It had to be from way Kawhi was practicing. Yeah, 67 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.079 and that was part of the initial reporting to run. Is it based on 68 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.839 the first handful of practices we had? You know, wasn't a meeting up 69 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.279 to standard. Now Team USA didn't say that, but the reporter the leaks 70 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.519 were saying that about him, that he wasn't practicing that. Well, Steve 71 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.800 Kerr ain't saying that, yeah, anything his practicing or in Tyler on the 72 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.439 staff. Well, we took a look and we evaluated Kawhi in practice, 73 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.399 and yeah, he's not quite up to stand it. Really really, it's 74 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:55.360 like you're gonna ask Robert de Niro to audition, you know, for a 75 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.319 role. No, no, that that was a bunch of bs and look 76 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.040 good in practice. So we're gonna we're gonna eliminate him from the squad. 77 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.360 Come on, give me how does he how does he not look good in 78 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:10.639 practice? No matter what, whether you like him or don't, whether you 79 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.480 know he's injured all the time, or he's not I'll tell you, just 80 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.360 quiet and look good in practice. How could that be if he could walk, 81 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:20.639 How could that be to the level of we want him off the team. 82 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.839 Not not he's not you know, he's not sharp, or he's he's 83 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:29.560 limping around, he's lumbering around, to the point where they say it's not 84 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:34.079 it's not for the betterment of the of the Olympic team. It's it's better 85 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.920 for him not to be on the team. That's how bad he was in 86 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:44.040 practice, that's what you're telling me. Come on, come on. Practice 87 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.839 has nothing to do with when those guys get there. They all know what 88 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.160 those guys can do. They all know and watch them over years play the 89 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.759 reason they're there in the first place, and the reason they were picked. 90 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:59.959 Practice has nothing to do with whether or not the guy's on the team unless 91 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.759 yes, unless yeah, they looked at practice and it was just so clear 92 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:08.399 that he cannot run up and down the court, and then it's like, 93 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.600 okay, we can't. He can't even run up and down the court. 94 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.759 There's no way he can play, and then they make the decision. But 95 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:17.720 that's not what they're saying. That's not what Laurence Frank Frank is saying. 96 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.399 See, he's disappointed that he's not on the team. And who was more 97 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:27.120 best in his health than Lawrence Frank. Lord Frank ad giver rats about the 98 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.759 USA Olympic team. He wants Kawhi healthy for the Clippers. And this is 99 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.120 Lawrence Frank saying, No, he's fine, he should be playing for the 100 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.680 Olympic team. That is weird. Didn't makes sense, all right. Lawrence 101 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:41.480 Frank also talked about the Paul George situation. Now we heard Paul George and 102 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.759 Paul talked about the fact that they came to him and it didn't work, 103 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.920 and he was actually surprised when they started the negotiations and it simply got to 104 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.920 a point where he went, no, that's not gonna work. He sort 105 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.279 of felt disrespected with what they did when they were negotiating with his potts. 106 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.040 He said he was respecting. Yeah, okay, Well, Lawrence Frank talked 107 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.680 to the media. Now here's what Laurence Frank had to say about Paul George 108 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.839 and the negotiation. Yeah. I think, you know, not speaking for 109 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:15.000 Paul, but I think the number he probably didn't include was the first number 110 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:21.040 is is opting number at fifty million, so fifty million plus sixty so it 111 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:25.680 was one hundred and ten. And this was all prior to getting that heavy 112 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.800 lifter. Once we got James, without anyone asking for anything more. For 113 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:34.759 both Kwy and PG, the offerers, both of them went significantly higher still 114 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:41.360 managing max Caapspas in twenty six twenty seven and being out of the second aprin 115 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:45.120 in twenty five twenty six. And the goal was get you as much money 116 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.920 as possible. But we still have to add to the team. I think 117 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.879 the important part is you have to be honest with your players. Look, 118 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.199 we're trying to win a championship. That's why we brought this group together. 119 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:01.639 That's why we gave up so much to get Paul Kawai. The unfortunate part 120 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.639 of it, we only had one healthy postseason. That's not anybody's fall, 121 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.759 but that's three out, so we're gonna have to add another major player to 122 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:16.000 the group. Makes sense. My question is, and maybe you guys remember 123 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:22.079 better than I do, didn't they get Kawhi done before James Harden I believe 124 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.319 they did. Ale double check, but I believe Saw. I believe Kawhi 125 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.319 got done in December possibly, if I remember correctly. Okay, So if 126 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.879 that's the case, how did Kawhi's offer go up higher? He's done? 127 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.360 How did that offer get better? He's already done. And Paul George's position 128 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:45.039 was all he wanted initially is what Kawhi had. Now I agree with Lawrence 129 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.039 Frank a billion percent. We got to win here. We gotta have money 130 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.840 to improve the team. Well, we've got to put together a team we 131 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:58.960 believe can contend. So I get that, but I just I don't underst 132 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:05.320 stand if at the very beginning Paul George said, just give me what Kawhi 133 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.840 has, whatever that is, I'm good to go. That's what Paul George 134 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.759 said. Is that what you said? Friends? Well, I'm not really 135 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.720 understanding what Lawrence Frank said, but just to jump in, by the way, 136 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.320 So they traded for They traded for James Harden on October thirty first, 137 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:24.279 and Kawhi Leonard signed his extension in January. Okay, so they took care 138 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.240 of Kawhi before they took care of James Harden. I remember when Kawhi Leonard, 139 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.759 Well, they always traded for James Harden with the idea we'll see how 140 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.039 this goes and if it works out, will extend you. So I'm not 141 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.399 worried about that part of it. But Kawhi when he signed, he said, 142 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.720 I basically got assurance is that everybody that needs to be back is going 143 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.840 to be back, and everybody assumed that meant Paul George. So Kawhi at 144 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.799 the time that he signed had a decent inkling that Paul George and the Clippers 145 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.279 are going to be able to get something worked out. Yeah, But what 146 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.200 I'm not understanding is Lawrence Frank said once they signed James Harden, unless I 147 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.320 misunderstood the offers for Kawhi and Paul George and Kreaes. But Kawhi was done 148 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.840 so well, he wasn't done yet. He didn't say that he did, 149 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:11.120 but but it wasn't done yet. Again. October is when they traded for 150 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.879 James Harden. Kawhi signed his extension in January, but James Harden just signed. 151 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:22.799 My point, is am I missing it? Maybe I am. I'm 152 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:24.799 thinking. Maybe I'm thinking about when they acquired James Harden. I think the 153 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:31.320 contract negotiations probably started at that point. No, I hear you, but 154 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.360 it wasn't done. It wasn't done, Kevin, can we play that one 155 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:41.679 more time? Sure? Absolutely? Yeah. I think, you know, 156 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.279 not speaking for Paul, but I think the number he probably didn't include was 157 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:52.480 the first numbers is opting number at fifty million, so fifty million plus sixty 158 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.840 so it was one hundred and ten. And this was all prior to getting 159 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.919 that heavy lifter. Once we got James, without out anyone asking for anything 160 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.600 more for both kuying PG, the offers both of them went significantly higher. 161 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.159 And when I apology, he says, once we got James, meaning once 162 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.919 they acquired James Harden in October, right as the season was starting, So 163 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.840 they basically it sounds like they were in negotiations with Paul and Kawhi before the 164 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:22.080 season, before they even acquired James Harden. Now them acquiring James made them 165 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.840 go back to the drawing board and increased their offers for whatever reason. That's 166 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.879 what he's saying. They had nothing to do with James's extension that he signed 167 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.840 this offseason. It was after they acquired him. But he also pointed out 168 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.919 that Paul had a fifty million opt in correct, and a sixty million they 169 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.639 offered him. It would have been sixty in new money basically, so sixty 170 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.879 plus fifty is how the Clippers were looking at it, right, But what 171 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.879 Paul George said, again, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I wanted 172 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.519 the three to start. I wanted the three year like Kawhi got. Yeah, 173 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.200 and that's not what their initial offer was, okay, which Lawrence Fring 174 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.559 basically confirmed, Yes, our initial offer, we looked at it as three 175 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.159 years, one ten, assuming he was going to opt into his player with 176 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.360 two more years, correct, right, and which Paul said on his podcast 177 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.879 gave me the same thing. Yeah, Paul said that was a slap in 178 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.759 the face, that that initial offer. So then Lawrence Frank says once they 179 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.879 traded for James Harden, they upped their offer. Now Lawrence didn't say by 180 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.159 how much or what they're offering, but he said they upped their offer. 181 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.559 Okay, Okay, whatever it was. Obviously it wasn't satisfactory for Paul. 182 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:30.039 And then Lawrence is basically using the argument of we're trying to field the team 183 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.600 here. I can't pay all you guys all this money because it also hasn't 184 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.639 worked these last five years, and I want to pay you guys, compensate 185 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.799 you guys as much as I possibly can, but it's hard to pay everybody 186 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.200 everything that they want and also feel the competitive team my by that right, 187 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.159 which is what we said last week too. By the way, the Clippers 188 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.799 just didn't say that publicly until now. Yeah. By by that, yeah, 189 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:56.279 we gotta win. Yeah. But was that conveyed to Paul George. 190 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:58.679 See, that's the thing, Rodney. He Paul didn't say that on the 191 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.960 pot. I'm assuming it was, but he didn't point that part out. 192 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.679 I can't believe that during the negotiations they didn't say, look, man, 193 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.519 we want to pay you what we can, but the luxury tax, the 194 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.000 new CBA, all this stuff, we can only pay so many people so 195 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.200 much money. Maybe they didn't say that. That's hard for me to believe 196 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.440 that. He even said, we want to be honest with our players. 197 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.720 Yeah, from that perspective, it sounded like they filled them in. Yeah 198 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.519 that Paul omitted that part from his podcast ran well. I think he was 199 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.679 just so upset with the initial offer. Could be give them what he said 200 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.480 that after that it was over. You know how that is, Rodney. 201 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.919 They come to you with an offer, Yeah, and you know, like 202 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.159 the first they come to you and they go, You're expecting whatever, and 203 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.039 they come to you with this and it's like, well, what is that? 204 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.679 The hell's that? Right? That's not even is that laughable? What 205 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.639 are we doing here? We all know what this needs to be and you 206 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.799 kind of blindsided me with this. And maybe they would have got to wherever 207 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.039 they wanted to get to. That's fine, yeah, but when you start 208 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:00.960 a certain place, it rubs you the wrong way to be in with It's 209 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.480 like, that's where they're starting, and we got to play these games to 210 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:09.600 get to where we feel comfortable. You know, this is after Kawhi signed, 211 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:11.759 so you know, you kind of know where you're at. You know 212 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:18.480 where the ballpark is, and they don't come to at least the playground, 213 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.759 and so you're sitting there going wow. And so we got to we got 214 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.399 to go through all this BS negotiations to kind of land at a place that's 215 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:30.080 close. Well, we got to go through the BS to land at a 216 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.279 place where we know we're going to land. So why are we playing games? 217 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.879 Why are we playing games? We know the number, we know where 218 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.080 we need to be, But why are you starting twenty millions lower or whatever 219 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.440 they you know, why are you starting right down there? We know what 220 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:45.759 we got to get to. I want to be here. I've said that 221 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.120 to you guys. I want to be here. I want to work this 222 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.200 out. I understand. Kawhi is kawhi? Why are we? Why are 223 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:56.759 we? Why are we playing these games of you know, like I'm a 224 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:03.279 rookie and we got to start low and end up in the middle. I 225 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.720 don't know that you the wrong way though, if you're an adult, did 226 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:13.200 you ever have one of those? Yeah? I did where it started off, 227 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.960 and I knew kind of where where we wanted to land because it had 228 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.720 been kind of thrown out there a little bit, and and and what some 229 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:28.320 other people were making, and but the starting point was so far off that 230 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.879 it was they're not serious, you know. It's like, let's let's see 231 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:35.799 if we can get him. Let's see if we can get him, is 232 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.039 the way, you know, you kind of take it, your initial reaction, 233 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.879 let's see if we can get one over on him, you know. 234 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.360 And then and then they start throwing out, well, you know you didn't 235 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.679 do this, and you know this guy's camp and he's only doing this. 236 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:56.480 It's like he's trying to make up or make sense of why they offered your 237 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.679 low ball due knowing that they're going to get to a point where you guys 238 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.840 are close enough to make a deal. You know, there's a there's a 239 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.200 point where you know, Okay, we're in, we're in. We're in 240 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:07.600 the neighborhood. We're in the neighborhood. Let's make it. We're gonna make 241 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.159 this happen, you know, whether that means and incentive to make it happen 242 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.120 or just number. We're gonna make it app We're gonna make it win the 243 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.799 neighborhood. But when they start outside the neighborhood, they're on a different block. 244 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.000 You're like, what, why, why are we wasting everybody's time? 245 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:27.879 That's exactly what I think, you know, as we kind of workshopping here, 246 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:34.519 maybe that's what happened. Yeah, it's like that, and that's what 247 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.840 he said. He felt disrespected, he felt insulted. Yeah, guys, 248 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.200 we know where we gotta be. We're on the same page and we we 249 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.440 ultimately know where we're gonna get, So why don't we just get to it. 250 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.080 Yeah, well we're gonna get to it. Why are you gonna put 251 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:59.080 a bad taste in my mouth? I've had one of those in my TV 252 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.799 career. Yeah, I had one, and you know, you know where 253 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:10.119 you're gonna end up. So and my deals were really easy to do. 254 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:14.000 As a matter of fact, this was a little different because the corporate structure 255 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.640 had changed. And so here we go again. They called to go, 256 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.920 this is where we're starting, and I just started laughing. Uh huh, 257 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.680 I just started laughing. I said, why are we doing that? You 258 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.319 know the number, I know the number. We all know the number. 259 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.680 It's not a surprise, it's not a secret. We all know where we're 260 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:41.279 going to go. Why are you doing that? Why? Well, to 261 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.839 make who win in a negotiation? Yeah, you gotta pie somebody to say 262 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.160 we started here, this is where we started, this is what we offered. 263 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.759 Or were you trying to insult me or trying to get one over on 264 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.039 me and say I think that maybe I just take it, and maybe you 265 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.799 kind of you do, by the way, to get what over on me 266 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.039 because I I got so desperate I'm just gonna take it. Is that what 267 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:10.400 you tried to do to me? The psychology of negotiation is really fascinating in 268 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:14.440 that Okay, here's our initial offer, right, and you're not going to 269 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.160 take it. But at the end of it. But at the end of 270 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.960 it, you know what they can say, See, we met you, 271 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:25.960 we met you, we gave, we came up, we gave you all 272 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:30.160 the way up. Look at us. We gave. And when you negotiate 273 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.960 with people, that's why it's such a waste of time half the time because 274 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.920 you know they're going to start low and the minute you get that number, 275 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.000 the minute you get that number, you go three times higher than you want. 276 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.480 Mm hm Okay, now let's take three weeks and get to where we 277 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:51.759 should be. Pretty simple, but there's an art to negotiating, and people 278 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:56.079 that do that for a living, they always want to feel like they've won. 279 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.720 The ultimate negotiation is everybody it feels like they got what they wanted, 280 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.200 but everybody feels like it didn't all go their way. Then it's a win. 281 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.359 Yeah, right, then it's a win. And then you can say 282 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:12.920 to the whoever you're negotiating with, Okay, thanks man, you know, 283 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.079 I know this is where you started, but you got me to don't get 284 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.640 it. I didn't get everything I wanted, but I it was fair. 285 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:25.119 That's fair. It was instead of just going like this, this is it, 286 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.000 this is it, and when they give you this is it. They 287 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:37.759 should always give you a little wiggle room too. This is it's no, 288 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.880 it's this, this is it. Can you do it a little better? 289 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:47.680 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but this is it last and final. So 290 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:49.640 it feels like they gave a little bit and you feel like, Okay, 291 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.400 I got everything I could. I love nothing on the table exactly. We 292 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.720 fought for what we wanted. We really we had our number behind behind closed 293 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.759 doors. We had our number, and we already we got there. So 294 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.079 we're good. We're good, you know. And maybe they had their number 295 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.319 two, and maybe there's some other little throat things thrown incentive why it's thrown 296 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.799 in there, But we got our number, so we're good. Let's try 297 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:12.519 get a little bit more. If we can try get a little bit more, 298 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.440 let's do it. Then it's really gravy, but we're at our number, 299 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.200 so we know it's gonna work. Yeah, and they do too, 300 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.720 right of course, businesses, here's the thing. Look at the Dodgers and 301 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:30.200 Corey seeger. Let's just look at that. For example, they knew they 302 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.240 were not going to pay him what he got paid in Texas, period, 303 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.359 right or wrong, good or bad, like it or not, mistake or 304 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:42.039 great decision. They knew there was a number. What we don't even need 305 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:47.039 to play games here. Yeah, we're gonna make you this offer. That's 306 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:52.839 our number if you can beat our number, because we decided that's it. 307 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.319 Okay, we get it, We get it right. Was it a mistake? 308 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:59.960 I don't know. Some people say yes, some people say no, 309 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.799 Yeah, but that's how you do it. They know the number, right, 310 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.799 Corey, and they were up front, right, they knew. Scott 311 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.599 Boris knew. They knew that they we can't do this, and somebody out 312 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.440 there is gonna do it. Just came off of winning the World Series MVP. 313 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.880 You know, they had back up because Trade Turner was still on the 314 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:22.880 contract. So whether they thought down the road that they could re sign Trade 315 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.880 Turner in a year, who knows, but they knew that they couldn't. 316 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.920 They weren't going to be able to pay Corey that and so they cut to 317 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.079 the chase. And the Dodgers are one of the few things because we talked 318 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.960 to Andrew Friedman about that. You know, look, we want to honor 319 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.400 you because you've honored us. Go see you can go see what you're what 320 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.000 you can get out there, Go see go see you know what the market's 321 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:52.319 gonna bear for you. We just can't match that. But if you can, 322 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.400 if you can get more, go get more. We respect you that 323 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:02.160 much because they always know the number. The Clippers knew that number. They 324 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:08.279 knew the number because you always do because businesses operate in five year cycles. 325 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.799 It's not like you wake up in the morning, go Okay, what are 326 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.079 we gonna pay everybody this year? How are we gonna do this? No, 327 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.039 they're working five year cycles. So they're projecting right now what their salary 328 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:27.680 will be in five years right now, and everything fits into a slot. 329 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:33.160 Now. There could be some adjustments or alterations, but that's how business works. 330 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:34.920 They don't get up in the morning go Rodney, what do you want? 331 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:37.480 Ten million dollars done? Kevin, what do you want? Eight million 332 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.240 dollars done? What do you want? What do you want? What do 333 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:41.279 you want? Okay, Oh, we're out of money. That's not how 334 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.880 they operate, that's not how business works. So the Clippers knew the number, 335 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:52.519 and it's just odd that it goes got to go through the game plan 336 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.079 to get get there. And again, you don't know, it's gonna rub 337 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.759 somebody the wrong way and I've seen it a lot of times where guys are 338 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.400 I've seen guys just like because of that initial number offer, whatever it may 339 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:08.079 be, or the conversations that happen because you got to negotiate, right, 340 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.240 you got to you gotta. Sometimes it goes ugly and the agent tells you, 341 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.000 which your agent probably shouldn't do. Well, this is what they're saying 342 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.000 about you exactly. You know you're not this and you're not that. Like, 343 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.079 well, the hell with them, I'm gone, I'll take less, 344 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.200 go somewhere else, just to stick it to them. I've seen that happen 345 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:27.759 a lot of times with guys. Yeah, I think that happens more than 346 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:32.680 you think. Yeah, it does. They're gonna insult me like that, 347 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:36.920 What the hell with them? I don't care. I'm playing. I'm going 348 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.599 somewhere else. I'm going to the rival just for the right to stick it 349 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.079 to him. It's the right to stick it to him, just for that 350 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.960 right. And then you know a team will come back and grobble and say 351 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.680 no, we'll meet your number. No, too late, too late, 352 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.559 I gotta tell you, Tiaska Hernanda, it's got to feeling pretty good. 353 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.119 Ends up with the Dodgers in a one year deal. Really wanted to be 354 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:10.359 in the home run derby. And now we'll start in the All Star Game. 355 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:29.160 We'll talk about that next. Oh yeah, come on, keep it 356 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.160 moving. Good news, good news for our guy, fred Ridpte Fred Rogan 357 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:41.119 on a Monday. Yeah, how cool is it for Tiascar Hernandez? Very 358 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.720 cool, very cool getting the start. I mean, to this point, 359 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.400 it's got to be a dream season for him. We've chronicled his his his 360 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:52.839 story, how he got here, why he's here, has come up with 361 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.759 some incredibly important hits for the Dodgers. Certainly he's been a bright spot. 362 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.039 No one can deny that wanted to be in the home run derby. Some 363 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.400 guys shy away from it. He wanted it, he got it, and 364 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:11.319 now he was voted onto the team. There was a question about that, 365 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.599 and now what taed Tee's hurt to ask. Hernandez gets the start. I 366 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.519 think that is really cool. That is great, great for him and a 367 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:25.680 guy that is beloved in the clubhouse works his ass off to get here. 368 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:27.640 Like you mentioned, Fred, he had he had some good years, but 369 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.920 had some ear years where he was injured and didn't fulfill some of that. 370 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:36.960 I think some of his potential. Wanted to be a Dodger and wanted to 371 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.359 take advantage of what this organization can do for a for a player, young 372 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.960 player, middle, middle aged player, older player, what this organization spends 373 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:51.880 the time and effort to help players prolong their career or better their career. 374 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.119 He wanted to be a part of it. And he's here and he's reaping 375 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.000 the benefits of that right now. And it's great. You mentioned earlier, 376 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.480 just a thought, the Major League All Star All Star Game. Here here, 377 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.119 here's the bottom line. The All Star games are obsolete. They don't 378 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.920 matter anymore. You can argue with me for an hour. They just don't 379 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:14.960 matter now. They matter to the players if you have money associated with making 380 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.960 the team. Something like that. Innefetitive stand you're not You're not one that 381 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:26.400 agreed with bud Selik that decided that it was going to determine who had home 382 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.640 field advantage the All Star Game. You didn't agree with that, that decision 383 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.319 that affred well, you know, what he was doing was trying to give 384 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:38.599 it relevance, trying to force guys to compete. Truth of the matter is, 385 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.599 nobody wants to get hurt, uh Their teams don't want them to get 386 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.960 hurt. We don't need and you pointed out earlier Pete Rose crashing into Ray 387 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.960 Fosse and basically ending Foss's career in the All Star Game. You don't need 388 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.079 that. You don't so, I mean, and now, because you can 389 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:03.680 see everything in social media, it's really they're they're not very relevant again except 390 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.400 if you get a bonus. The NBA is a joke. It has been 391 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.079 a joke. No one can deny it's a joke. The NHL All Star 392 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.240 Game is awful. It is just awful. I give the NFL credit. 393 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:22.680 They realized how pathetic that was and just stopped it, just adopted. There's 394 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.359 no reason to even continue that. But baseball, I don't know. Maybe 395 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:33.960 because it's such a long season, there's still a charm to it. Yeah, 396 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.839 I'm with you. And the way can you make it, how can 397 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.119 you make it more incentive other than you know, what see tried to do 398 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:45.400 is make the winner the winner gets, you know, it gets the home 399 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.559 field. But that that didn't work out right because you know, like you 400 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.759 said, guys didn't want to get hurt in the All Star Game, and 401 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:53.880 you're not gonna wear out a pitcher in an All Star game just so you 402 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.279 can, especially if you're not in the race. Why are you gonna and 403 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.559 you made the All Star team, why are you gonna, you know, 404 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.960 grind out a picture and get impossibly hurt in an All Star game when your 405 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.799 team is not even in a pennant race. So that didn't work. Money 406 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.000 doesn't work anymore. It used to be the money incentive in the NFL, 407 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.799 where it was, you know, that little extra change when guys weren't making 408 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.799 forty million dollars a year. That was cool. But that doesn't work anymore. 409 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.200 So I don't know how do you incentivize guys to play hard or at 410 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:29.640 least, you know, make it really really competitive, Because I think you're 411 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.079 right. I think baseball is the last one of those. It's really competitive. 412 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.079 I think Fox does a very good job in the production. Keep in 413 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:37.839 mind, it's a TV show. I tell you that all the time, 414 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:44.240 they've got pictures miked while they're pitching. That's pretty cool. They've got guys 415 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.119 miked all over the place. They know how to do what they make it 416 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:51.200 interesting. They understand production, so they do a pretty good job. I 417 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.359 would just ask you to consider this during this year's All Star breaking the NBA. 418 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:00.240 They talked to Rich Paul. Now you would think Rich Paul as one 419 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.200 of the top agents in sports. Certainly the NBA would always defend the players 420 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.759 always, and he was asked about the All Star Game and he said, 421 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:15.200 we got a problem. These guys gotta understand what this means. Just from 422 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:22.119 the perspective of sponsors. They're paying money, money that ultimately is shared with 423 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.599 the players. You can't not show just go through the motions and run up 424 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:32.079 and down the court. People are gonna stop paying for that. And when 425 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:37.359 they stop paying, you make less money. So you gotta give it what 426 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.160 you got, or at least act like you care. Because it's really bad. 427 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.440 But baseball I do still think there's a charm to it. All Right, 428 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.200 Now, let's bring on Victor Brick for the Daily Haikup at two and 429 00:29:49.319 --> 00:30:00.960 Vic Good Afternoon. He's the hidden haught and soul of NBC's Olympic coverage. 430 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.759 I'm Fred Rogan. I'm not really Bick. I'm really not doing anything. 431 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:15.640 But you were back in the day. Yes, you thought you were in 432 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:21.720 Soshie or you were in Nagano, you were in somewhere, but really you 433 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:29.680 were in secaucus, uh Stanford, Stanford, Connecticut. That's the caucus for 434 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:34.759 as you were the king of curling. Yes, I was North America's foremost 435 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:41.359 expert, at least the United States on curl. He is our Olympic flame, 436 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:52.480 Rodney Pete pet Yes, sir, his eternal gold medal is baby, 437 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:59.880 oh, baby, olive. Everything you're looking on now, faster, higher, 438 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:10.279 stronger together, Rodney Fossio Gold Medalist, King Flavor. Y'all, well, 439 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.519 look look at me. I'm still a wreck from We don't want to 440 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:22.680 put him through that. We get him be a wreck. My god. 441 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.680 You liked that one, didn't you. Rodney. That was a good one. 442 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:30.640 That that was one of the better ones right there. That was good. 443 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.240 All right, we'll find out why Vic is a wreck next. Come 444 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:44.559 on, we desperately needed, desperately, desperately need that spirituality the show on 445 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.000 a Monday to kick off the week, right way, bring it back, 446 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.279 Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Victor, Break Jacobs, come on, right, 447 00:31:51.359 --> 00:32:00.839 Vick, You're right, Dodger fans feeling you. Seven deep breaths. 448 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.480 It was a horrific meltdown in the Motor City, There's no doubt. But 449 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:14.200 again, when you're pitching staff is in tatas and its shattered, as the 450 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:22.279 great Jaggo would say, you got problems. But still when you're up five 451 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:35.519 in the ninth, you're leading nine to four over the Tigers, and you'll 452 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.559 lose eleven, nine and ten. Okay, that's devastating, But that's the 453 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.000 beauty of baseball, right you come back the next day one out of one 454 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:50.640 sixty two. You let it go, and then the next day you're playing 455 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:58.079 a solid game. You know you're up three to nothing in the first the 456 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.839 way of Tay to ask. Hernandez drives in a big run, Pie Has 457 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:08.119 drives in a run. The pitching is relatively solid until you know the butchering 458 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:21.640 of the buns so upshot. This team has so much character. Why do 459 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.160 I dub them blue bamboo? Because they bend and they will not break. 460 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:34.880 Is that what you've dubbed them? Oh? Absolutely blue bamboo. And there's 461 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.160 a lot to be disconsolate about what happened, you know, over the weekend 462 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.319 in Detroit, but what happened in Oklahoma City. I was watching Clayton Kershaw 463 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.079 on his rehab start in okay See, and he looked, he looked good. 464 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.319 His breaking pitch was sensational. Three hit List innings. M H. 465 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.039 So, I know there's a lot of negative energy right now, you know, 466 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.359 over what happened to List days in Detroit. But moving forward, and 467 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.039 we must move forward. They have a seven game lead in the West, 468 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:15.239 okay. But the important thing is reinforcements are coming. Kursh look good, 469 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:23.000 Joe Kelly el Mariachi had one one scoreless inning in OKC. So those are 470 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:36.400 positive signs, no, sure, of course, big of course, all 471 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:44.440 positive and mad love to Tascar. Hernandez getting the start at the Globe tomorrow, 472 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:51.199 the home run Derby tonight, so he'd be slugging tonight. He's a 473 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.760 shot to win the one million dollars. That's the payoff. He's going up 474 00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:04.880 against the polar Bear, Pete Alonso. You know Alonzo loves it. Oh, 475 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.159 he loves it. He's looking for he's looking for a third title. 476 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.039 The only other player who has won three home run derbys, you guys know, 477 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:22.440 the kid Ken Griffy Jr. Mm. Then you got Alex Baum from 478 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:29.239 the Phillies, Marcella Sooner from the Braves, the hometown favorite out of list 479 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:34.960 Garcia from the Guardians, Jose Ramirez, from the Royals, Bobby Witch Jr. 480 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.199 And from the Orioles Gunner Henderson. I'm thinking, I'm thinking Hernandez has 481 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:45.599 a shot. Mm hm. They all got a shot. Big get hot, 482 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.199 get hot. Everybody got a shot. Who's got a shot In Nagoya, 483 00:35:52.440 --> 00:36:00.239 Day one of the Grand Sumo tournaments in the books, Oh, lot 484 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.480 of upsets? Everybody who's upset? Who got upset? Who? Who? 485 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.800 I'm not gonna like the hear got upset? Don't you tell me? Darren 486 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:20.079 the Fuji the yokozuna advanced, but he was the only top tier RICHI wrestler 487 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.960 who advanced in Nagoya. Everyone else was stunned. On the positive side, 488 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:32.400 Waka Taka Kage after the off due to injury back in the dojo. He 489 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:38.920 missed a year, but he lost lost his opening match to Taka Refuji. 490 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:45.320 But his brother Waka Taka Haru won his first match on opening day over Abi. 491 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:52.920 So that's good news, Haru. Huh. What's very sad is my 492 00:36:52.920 --> 00:37:00.760 beloved bar Yugosakamoto and my favorites, the Bear Takayasu a injury on the first 493 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:14.920 day. I'll lah Max Muncy the same type of injury m hm. So 494 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.239 that's a bummer. I believe he's gonna be out of the entire tournament. 495 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:24.440 No, that's a tough one. Vic, the whole tournament, I believe 496 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:30.159 so that nothing official yet, but it didn't look good man. You know 497 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:42.280 where that leads this too, Always to the source thread. Yes, and 498 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:49.519 this is a combination plate of BA Show and myself. Go some combination what 499 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:57.199 B show and VIC A little bit slight enhancement, wait for it, go 500 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.800 something like this. This high cool is for you on this Monday, July 501 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:14.360 the fifteenth, on the temple bell glowing at the globe. Another mammoth home 502 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.719 run from te Oscar Hernandez. The Way of Tay. I'm feeling you, 503 00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:29.719 the Way of Tay, the day of day. Yeah, Ronnie, thank 504 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.760 you, great job, Kevin. I really appreciate it. Let's see how 505 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.360 TA does tonight. And if he gets his way, Rodney will talk tomorrow. Ratto