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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and
welcome back to the Accolade review. This

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is a review for episode four.
I in the number one Kylo Rent fanboy

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tres Now, and I am joined
by Oh Baby, Taylor Field. Oh

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Baby. I don't remember them saying
that in this episode, but they did

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say a lot of things. We're
gonna break it down, we're gonna talk

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because we have a lot to talk
about despite this being a episode that

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is only let's take a look here, and not that it matters all the

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time, right, but still twenty
seven and twenty sevens and four seconds when

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you take all the credits, the
recap and the stuff before. Oh my

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goodness, but mister Field, what
did you think of this episode? I'm

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gonna just say this right now.
I can't stand these fucking cliffhangers anymore.

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Oh my god, it's just one
of the most brulest things ever. But

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what I think about the episode,
I thought it was I thought it was

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great. I thought it was it
was it was yeah, And I don't

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don't have like a huge excessive amount
of cons aside from some of the the

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dialogue was a little bit yeah,
But I thought I thought it was fine.

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It was cool, to kind of
get a little bit more expansion on,

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of course the story and get a
little bit more detail on just the

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world that we're kind of we're in
right now. And I, yeah,

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I don't. I don't have a
lot of negatives. So when I think

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in retrospect about how people some people
got to see like the first three episodes,

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some people got to see the first
four, right, so no one

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really knows what happens after this.
I think most people saw the first four

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that were critics and everything. Yeah, so yeah, it's I'm just I'm

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at this point, I am exceptionally
excited for what's going to be happening next

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and just to see where things go
after this episode. I feel like this

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episode, well it was on that
shorter span compared to the other three.

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It definitely to me, it feels
almost like that episode where we had was

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it Mando, where we had Grogu
and I wish I could remember the Jedi's

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name. I'm at best played the
Jedi. I can't remember what the idea

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was, But yeah, that was
a that was a significantly short episode.

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Keller and Beck that's his name,
So that was a that was a shorter

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episode. And I feel like,
Okay, we got to cover so much

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like crazy ground and just that in
that that's that storyline there. So for

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me, that feels like that was
this episode. Well, it was a

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shorter one, we got to cover
a lot of ground things. It's really

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expedited rather quickly, where the episode
starts off slow, but it feels like

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you have a lot of pause between
moments of characters kind of feeling things out

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and having things kind of emanate from
their conversations with their characters. Once it

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kind of gets to the back half
near the end, things are like really

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really freaking like escalating and like okay, we're we're gearing out, we're going

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And that's why I think episode five
is going to be an absolute banger.

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I'm stoked. I hate seeing everyone
just shitting on this show. Tweet his

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own there's there's enough Star Wars now
that everyone can have that little bit of

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stuff. Whatever they want, they
can they can enjoy. But man,

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this show's good. This show's I'm
really really loving it so far. That's

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good. I'm glad to hear some
of the podcasts is loving this. Yeah,

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I did not really enjoy this episode
at all, and I think this

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is now hurt the rest of the
series. For me, it's nothing to

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do with the lore, it's nothing
to do with the force. Just comes

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down to me to some poor,
poor writing, and they did to me

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a something very big here with a
character decision that I was not a fan

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of. So this is coming from
some guy that has been liking and enjoying

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it. As I've said before,
didn't have major pros, but didn't have

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major cons and some major pros that's
always I got to say, like,

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yeah, Soul, but that's like
everybody it's like, oh, Soul's the

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best, right, But I also
was, like the other people that had

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all did this, this is off. And for again, the runtime it

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doesn't matter that much because it's more
just an easy thing to point out because

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it's one of the issues. But
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other ones where you look at x
N ninety seven, some of those

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episodes were around this, maybe six
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always feel satisfied with those, right, this was a week where I did

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not feel satisfied because I also feel
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around and not really doing anything vital. I think there's a big storyline that's

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going in a direction that I'm not
really looking forward to. So, yeah,

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episode five has to do a lot, but I don't think they can

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fix the things they did in this
one for me, because they're jumping off

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points where they're going a certain route
and now it's like, Okay, we're

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heading that direction and we can't really
stop now unless there's some big can they

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pull off? But yeah, so
when you said there was like an off

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area that go juicy stuff, I
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I think it's this episode's kind of
juiceless other than like the last thirty

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seconds, but like nothing we hadn't
seen in a trailer. You know.

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It's it's like what's to get hyped
about? Really? You know, it's

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just and I Chris brought up a
great point when we were talking about that.

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I swear, if they do some
shit where there's some really cool stuff

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but we don't see it and they
just move forward and like characters talk about

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what happened and the show does that, it's like, oh God, Like

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so yeah, no, this is
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negative where I was pretty neutral,
I'd say neutral to liking it. Enjoying

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it, but now, yeah,
this is too much going on. Look,

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Scott mchellan is in the chat.
I agree with Travis, which happens

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a lot nowadays me and him.
See I we didn't used to but yeah,

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this episode just there's especially when we
get into spoilers, there's something that

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happened last week that I praise it
for being like, oh, I really

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like this route they're going because they're
doing something different than what I expected,

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and they kind of threw it all
away in this episode. It made me

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not care about a certain character,
a character that I probably cared the most

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about up to this point. So, yeah, this was not a good

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one. And so I'm not on
the bandwagon of the people that are all

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destroyed the force and oh there's this
couple and the babies. No, that's

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not why I'm negative, but I
can completely get I can understand why some

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people didn't like it before, but
especially with this episode. I especially there's

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people that saw the four I'm like, oh, yeah, like buck up,

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I can see that now. I'm
on a different wave length as Taylor.

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As far as now, I'm not
really I'm not really excited for next

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week now, and that's a bummer
because I've been excited for each week,

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but this one was, Yeah,
they just kind of tipped their hand of

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showing the quality of the show.
Maybe they can say it back. I'm

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not saying it's the worst show ever. I'm not saying it's the worst Star

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Wars. I'm not saying I'm not
going to be watching because there's still few

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things I'm curious about, but like, yeah, it just just this one

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fell pretty flat for me unfortunately.
So maybe you know this is halfway out

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the season, maybe you can save
it. But that's not a good thing.

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And I've I've been here before.
I've been here with Mando, I've

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been here with Boba where we talk
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and it's either the same or it
gets worse. So I'm interested to get

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into spoilers and compare notes. But
this was not Yeah, No, this

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wasn't good. And they just,
especially with the call the of TV out

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there right now, they they do
gotta step it up. And see someone

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asked me last week, They're like, what is because last week very controversial

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right chat was popping off and everything
like that. We'll get to that chat

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after Andrew and like someone asked,
like, what's your big red line?

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And I don't think this cross it
being a big red line, because there's

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still things I do enjoy. But
it is the sense of like, if

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all shows continue to be like this, that's where it's just that you just

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gotta get less excited and maybe you
do stop watching eventually. Right, So

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we'll have to see. But I
think this show made a critical error in

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one character in particular. Oh yeah, thank you, Andrew. Yeah,

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well everyone's here smashal like button and
if you don't go subscribe everything, we

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appreciate that. So anyways, anything
else, say nonsports, it should be

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interesting one No, all right,
so we're gonna take a break and then

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we'll be right back with spoilers and
we're back. So Andrew says, bro

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Monday looks like a liar. Now, So was that the Monday? Was

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that the like the same one from
the prequels and everything? So it was,

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Hey, that's the one, So
that that's even more of a problem.

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Now, I think that's the juicy
thing. That's the juice thing I

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wanted to talk to you about.
Yeah, I just I don't know.

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It's one of those things we talked
about. It before where it is they're

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walking a fine line of I've always
said this before where I don't think the

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when people oh, Anakin is not
special anymore, that's your interpretation. I

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think he still is in a certain
sense. But I don't even think Anakin's

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that special. It's Luke, you
know. Luke's the one that is the

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special one. And for me,
but that whole thing of hey, the

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Phantom, like the Jed, I
don't know about the Phantom, Menace and

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the cyth. And I've always said
I'm not a fan of going back and

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directly changing certain plot points that George
does because those are his movies and those

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the original and he created this,
right, That's why I'm always wanted to

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move forward or go very far back
to George in touch. And then you

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can do that. And this isn't
even that far back because Monday's right there

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and he's in the prequels right,
So for me even then too before you

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go, because I'll show some more
of the nuts, negatives, mar critiques,

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and then you can try and tell
us your side. It's not so

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much too that Monday's there, which
I think he's he is the one that

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oh, we haven't seen the Seth
the Sith in the millennia or whatever,

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right, So that is odd.
They never say that in the little meeting

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room there, so you can go
that route. But I also just I

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didn't think that fit a Jedi,
where this is the Jedi at their height

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of the power, or at the
end of the height of their power.

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They're doing very well for them to
say, hey, there's this thing going

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on, but we're not going to
tell the council. I just didn't buy

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that, because even in the prequels, when they are to me at their

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dumbest, they still will go blabber
on to the council, you know.

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So I just didn't buy that something
potentially is so big they wouldn't inform on

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to get some sort of knowledge.
It just it just didn't fit with me

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kind of overall. That's not the
thing that got me uninterested, by the

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way, I just kind of forgot
about I was gonna ask about that.

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It's a different plot point, but
I can't. I have more of a

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problem with that one, and I'll
wait to see how they play it.

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But that whole area, I have
more problem with that than the Force babies

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and the whole the thread which I
never cared about, Like, that's the

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thing, right, I go ah, I don't know about that choice.

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I don't know if that's something you
had to do. I'll let it play

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out. But as of right now, and especially with some of the other

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writing things, I'm not too confident
about it. So let's see Monday was

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in the credits and wasn't even alive
yet? Is that true? Is he

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not alive? That is just changing
too. People are saying he wasn't even

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alive. But again, I don't
know what is like, I have no

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I don't know baseline for how old
he's actually supposed to be. People like

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people keep checking on the Wikipedia,
like the Star Wars wiki and says,

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oh, he was born like ninety
something years before Battle of Yavint, But

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it's like, well, where's that
source from. I don't even know if

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the many modern day like actual Cannon
books even talk about that that might be

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true. I will because I'm not
going to be that person. So here,

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Ravana Andrew, we're not saying you're
wrong. Nine three B B Y.

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All I want to see is just
like last week when people were complaining

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about the prophecy and they couldn't give
me the answer, I said, we're

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in the prophecy to say Anakin has
to be born out of like unnatural causes.

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If you can find us a source
of everything like that, not saying

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you're wrong, just saying like,
hey, give us that backstory, right,

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if it's some canon, if it's
some legends and all, I'm not

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gonna count that. If that is
true, that's an odd one. And

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that's something where to me where it's
like, if Dave Felonia is here a

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part of the show, he's supposed
to be the cannon guy and he can't

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really get that, that to me
would be a big blunder. And that

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comes down to stuff that we've talked
about before. It is a true thing,

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right where Feloni at times in the
books and comics has shown that he

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doesn't even care about the cannon right, Like, look at the saws Terrists.

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They brought her back, they didn'tver
Oh, we're gonna explain the show.

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They didn't explain the show, right, they never explained how she was

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back. Right, I'm asking you, right, And that's what I mean.

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start as Cantina conversations and What was
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was hashtag Cannon doesn't matter to Star
Wars. And I think if there is

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proof that Monday was not even alive
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grown man, that's a big no
no. And that's stuff that like I

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can get why Star Wars fans would
fucking hate. Like imagine if we were

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to watch Endgame and they showed Peter
Parker alive in World War Two and we'd

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be like, what the fuck is
going on? Like this doesn't make any

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sense? But uh yeah, that's
how the film can in and that bothers

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me. So try what what are
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on? Obviously, put the age
thing is unless you have updates. But

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if you don't have any updates,
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can't find updates on the age thing. I really just don't. I'm curious.

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I really want to know where people
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say, like Star Wars wiki because
it doesn't care. I agree with you.

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You can't know that could be anything. Yeah, yeah, so uh

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now I think Ravena in the chat
kind of to such a mom what I'm

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getting into here. I think I
strongly think that Okay, you have this

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this this Jedi meeting or this this
basic council, and they're all talking about

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one second, they say plagues novel. I don't think that's can anymore,

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is it? No, the PA
novels in canon, And that's what I'm

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saying, you got to play by
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And if you don't like Disney Cannon, that's fine, but this is

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a Disney Cannon show. So continue
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away, doing their own thing.
And oh what is her name of Venicetras?

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She has like the horns and everything, right, No, okay,

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fuck me right? Not yeah,
it doesn't have the horns, yeah not

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not yeatt'll yeah, Vernestra okay,
Baresa. She's from the the the junior

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like teenager higher public novels, green
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You don't like her, yes,
okay. So she's basically leading this council

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at this at this little session,
right, And so here here's the interesting

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thing. You have Kaddy Mendy who's
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and all these characters, And so
the kicker here is that they're talking about

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another another like someone okay, who
is trained what sounds like the Jedi arts,

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who has really really good training,
even though they're calling her out like

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oh, she's emotionally compromised, YadA, YadA, YadA, but she's still

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she killed two Jedi masters. So
that's really really potent. So I think

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that what was happening here, while
they didn't technically drop the word sith,

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I think that the fact that they
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Ronestra's like, oh, if they
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the Council is going to go and
tell the Senate and then we have

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a whole thing on our hands and
we don't need that boom. That is

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a huge red flag and that is
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the Jedi right there. And I, okay, I think I think that's

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that's a huge, a huge,
developed, developing development. That's just a

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huge pivotal that's the word moment for
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I think that it's crazy that they
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and that choice and decision on their
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are that they were addressing in that
and that small council to not tell the

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higher Jedi order and the or Jedi
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in the prequel era. Now,
what I like about Caddy Mondy being there,

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and that was a complete surprise because
you had the show runners talk about

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how we're not going to have big
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then obviously we get this. But
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but I think that there's a reason
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a big cameo. To me,
big cameo is the general audience can name

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a person, you show a photo, or you show a photo of the

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of this guy. I think people
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a head like that. So you
think you could bring Mads into this room

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on prompted and say who is this
and she said Caddy Monday. Well she

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said the name, no, but
the guy. She'll know the guy.

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No, it's a name. That's
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that's that species. But most people
don't know Grogu. They just say baby

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Yoda, right, So it doesn't
always matter with the name. Just know

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the look. That's still bigger.
That's still bigger. More people know Grogu

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than Ketty Bundy, I promise,
I promise you that. But to cut

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in closing with with Keddy Muddy,
I think what is so potent here is

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again, well, they didn't drop
the word sith. I think it's very

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crazy that this small council is having
this discussion that Okay, there are Dark

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Side Force users out there, and
they're already covering it from the prior Jedi

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Council, and they're covering it up
from the Senate, and so now you

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have this whole Whatever happens with this
encounter that we get next week, it's

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gonna be fucking devastating. All M'd
say at least fifty percent, maybe seventy

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five percent of Jedi, which are
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die, and that we're going to
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it's going to come back to that
small council meeting and Caddy Bunny's gonna

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be there and they're gonna like,
okay, we've got to keep the secret

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because they can't let the Republic and
anyone know, Okay that we're threatened because

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they haven't dealt with a syth in
a long time. Like at this point,

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you're dealing with like the fallout of
the Nye Hill, You're dealing with

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what were the green plant things called
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a whole bunch of things. And
so the Jedi had to deal with like

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Starlight Beacon being destroyed too, So
there's a whole lot of stuff that really

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rattled them to get to the point
where they're at now and for this to

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happen. They don't they don't want
to show like I'm almost almost, they

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don't want to showcase them and show
any weakness at this point to the galaxy.

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So when this happens, we're seeing
them start to crumble and just kind

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of like like coop up inside and
like, Okay, we need to keep

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the secret, keep this low key. We don't want to cause a stir

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or a panic, and we don't
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this. So here you have Caddy
Mundy in on the secret where and I'm

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pretty I feel confident about them playing
off of this line, and this is

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them retroactively going back and change how
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because at the time Caddy Money was
genuinely serious, like, oh this Fith

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haven't been seen for a millennia.
But now I think they're changing it and

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making a Caddy Money was in on
a cover up to keep this like low

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key secret. I think that's what
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Don't like that at all. So
here's the thing I think. One

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I I just laugh at you're like
they're when they're like, oh, we

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got to cover We can't let the
Council of this thing will be happening and

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then all these Jedi are gonna be
dead, like, oh, we can't

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let them know. It's like Jedi, oh yeah, it's like, so

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what do you let them know?
Like they they rogue, It'd be different

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if you didn't let them know,
found the Sith took them out. Okay,

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we don't need to speak of it. They're gonna kill a bunch of

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Jedi and you're not gonna go to
the High Cant like that for me is

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still just not fitting. I think
you made some good points, but I

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think the problem is you like you
are portraying and bringing a lot of stuff

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that you know. If a person
that's not read any of that books does

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not know this, I don't think
they said the backstory up enough. I

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think that's another This is why the
run time is not a problem. It

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just depends what you pack in it. Right. It's like that expression like

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putting two pounds of shit or ten
pounds of shit in a two pound bag.

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That's the issue where I think you
could explain all this. You could

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do these things, not just comparing
it because it's one of the best shows

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on TV, but if it could
be like a House of Dragon and it's

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like you have time to explain the
backstory, the motivations, where these characters

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are, why they are, why
the society is like this. If you've

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not watched this, like or sorry, if you're a general audience and you've

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not read the Higher fuck, you
don't know this. You don't know about

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the Nyehill and Starli Beacon and how
they're probably feeling the pressure. All you

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know is these are Jedi at the
top of their game, So why in

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all their media would they lie?
Right? That's the thing for me is

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that especially I'm not lying though,
right, Oh, they're neglecting the truth.

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It's the same thing. It's like
if you had an affair and you

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didn't lie to your wife about it, but you never told her, that

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be neglecting the truth. So the
same thing of like they knew there was

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a say, just because Yoda didn't
ask, oh, have your photo Sith

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in the last year, I don't
have a good Yoda and they didn't say

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anything like that. That's the problem, and that's where I think that you

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can have these run times. But
the problem with so many Jedi and so

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many stories, it's all getting rush, especially when we get to May.

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Holy fuck did they drop it all
the Holy fuck did they drop the ball

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there? But let me go to
some pea chats here just before we get

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too far along flashback next one to
Jawn to like what percon like there could

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be but I don't think it better
not be a whole flashback episode and it

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doesn't matter. Okay, I think
you might get some because Soul is like,

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I'll tell you everything you need to
know next week, you know,

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so maybe you'll get some of it, but I don't want all of it

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because we got a whole flashback episode
last week and it really didn't mean much.

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It's really kind of nothing for the
most part. So that's cool.

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And like John Patro point out,
Caddy Mundy's has a birth year in Legends

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dot canon and that's where where was
it somewhere? Ravena B Said, Wait,

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doesn't Disney Canny then Negate Disney Canny, Disney Cannon then Negate George Cannon,

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which would include Ray's story. No, because they put her and you

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said, hey, I was just
asking not being a trouble banker. No,

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it's going to be fine. They
use some of his elements Ray Luke

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Bing Hermit in their canon. Right. Until you do that, it's just

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a what if. So unfortunately,
those plague Is tales you could have in

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the back of your mind. But
that's why the Disney Cannon it is one

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way. That's why I tell people
many times when I watch Star Wars now,

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it's just like a what if,
Like this is what could a route

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we go? But that's why you
have legends that could be another route,

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what if you go? And et
cetera. Right, So, because they

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use those elements George gave them,
that is canon. That's George Cannon.

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They didn't negate that, but you
can ask look at the things that were

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rumored in the script. They throw
out lots of stuff. There's lots more

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to do with medichlorians and everything like
that. So that's where it's like,

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just because they use some of George
stuff doesn't mean it makes everything canon.

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Even then, I don't think he
wrote the plague his book that gave Caddy

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Bunny his age, right, Like, I don't think George like, oh,

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yeah, he was born in nineteen
thirty b b Why Like, no,

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he didn't do that. That wasn't
George given Caddy Monny an age.

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He's like, just make him look
like a squid. You know, let's

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see, right, this main issue, it's kind of sad he looks like

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a liar whatever his birthday is.
And I agree taking all that out,

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let's just say, let's just say, for what a reason, Cannon,

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they make it that he is now
this certain age, right, And I

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think I'll have to see the rest
of the show, but it does seem

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to me an odd choice to pick. Like I said, I'm some of

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that's iffy on that stuff. You're
picking a character literally, the character in

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the prequels that says we haven't heard
of in the millennia. That is risky

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territory. For me, that is
more than changing the canon and then the

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threads or the lore, because that
stuff from people's point of views, that

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stuff that it's like the age thing
where it's like, well, it's kind

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of murky. If that is why, I don't think that's what makes Anakin

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the special one. But this is
literally taking a character now, and you

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watch mena Menace, you'd be like, oh, one hundred years ago,

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he knew the Scyth were here and
he could have stopped it, but Caddy

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money, he didn't, and it's
just like, well I didn't he Like,

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It's just and for me that's where
I come from the opposite where I

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think you do make some good points, but I still think that the High

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Republic Jedi were still so by the
book that I don't buy they would be

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doing this, and like you said, there are reasons for them to not

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be doing it, but they need
to put that in the show. Still

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it can't be well it happens in
the books. And that's where I think

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that these run times are screwing them
over because there's multiple characters that are just

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getting a storylines that are getting neglected, and it feels like we're watching a

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stripped down version of what a show
fully is to me sometimes, you know,

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mm hmm, No, I would
totally agree with that. I think

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you need to have that runtime extent. You need that full hour to really

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slow things down. And again,
we're gonna get into May soon. But

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like even if they made that spread
out over a few more episodes and these

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episodes or an hour long the whole
season or whole season, then it would

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have been more justified. But I
mean, again, I'm gonna give it

404
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,039
some breathing room because I want to
see what her actual motivations are. Like

405
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:11,960
it was kind of but that's cheesy
writing because she's like, oh, I'm

406
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,279
low to my sister, not the
master. But anyways, before that,

407
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,480
yeah, now you mentioned like why
like them picking Caddy money. I remember

408
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:22,480
we were doing a trailer analysis a
long time ago and I was popping the

409
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,400
names of like Oppo Ranceesis scenario poop, like those those are other Jedi that

410
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,160
were mentioned in the Higher Republic novels
that they could they be kicking around.

411
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:36,279
But it all comes back down to
that line Caddy money. Now we even

412
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:38,200
saw like a plow coon looking guy. I don't know if the credits labeled

413
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,559
him as Cloku, but he was
the same species. I don't know if

414
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,799
you saw him in this episode.
I missed that. No, he landed

415
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:49,960
with them on Uh it was like
col cohar they killed plokuon. Yeah,

416
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:56,319
they're really totally just ruins Revenge of
the sith Is. I would love it

417
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,880
if they did this and then at
the end of the show they announced,

418
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,400
actually, this is just like or
what if Timeline, like we were just

419
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,000
fucking with you the whole time.
I'm Sorry's fans would be so mad.

420
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,799
But no, it's they're not gonna
do that. It's probably just as a

421
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,759
species of flow coon. But I
think so. Yeah, John Petro says,

422
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,400
I don't think they'll tell him about
the sith He's in the show for

423
00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:18,599
reason, and it's explain why he
doesn't know about the sith and they did

424
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,799
not say Sith particularly. I just
feel like it's I just need to see

425
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,960
how it's handled, because obviously a
bunch of these are gonna die, right,

426
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,160
That's why I need to see his
handle, Because, like I said,

427
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,880
John, you have a point,
but I just like with the route's

428
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,039
going and to me this the episodes
for the first three he had okay to

429
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,400
iffy writing to me, this episode
had bad writing. That's where it's like

430
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,240
trust tough for me to trust them
going forward. Are they gonna be pulled

431
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,599
this off? Because I just don't
buy if, like like if fifteen Jedis

432
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,680
die and Cady Money knew there was
some sort of master printed situation going on,

433
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,519
I just don't And that's what I
mean, I do more. I

434
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,440
just don't buy that they would not. That's the second I can't. We

435
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
have to elevate now because it could
get so much worse, and I don't

436
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,400
know what happens. I don't know
if the Sith gets killed, who knows.

437
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,400
That's I mean, there's some stuff. As we said last week,

438
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,160
we can't judge at all. I'm
gonna give it a chance. But after

439
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,960
this week by I'm a little worry
that that bridge is swinging a lot and

440
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,559
has a lot of holes in it. So we'll see. So, I

441
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,880
mean, like you, they could, I don't know what else. Who's

442
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,759
Trevor Lawrence? I don't know And
even dropped earlier too in here, Oh

443
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,880
someone is, Oh someone in the
Chattney trailers. Oh oh yeah, yeah,

444
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,480
but they I'm trying to remember from
the trailers what else we see of

445
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:41,920
the Master and this we don't know
much. We haven't seen anything else.

446
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,960
This is this is it? So
I called it. I told you that

447
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000
episode four like this, I feel
like they that's been a trend with Disney

448
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,440
is usually in the trailer's majority of
the footage is what they give to the

449
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,359
critics, So then even the critics
don't know for five and six and everything

450
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,319
like that. So and this is
my problem. Oh go ahead, go

451
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:03,680
ahead. I was just say,
like, are we going to see the

452
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,000
Master get killed here? Like is
he gonna take out like seventy five percent

453
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,519
of the Jedi and then maybe even
kill Soul? But then one of these

454
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,359
Jedi is going to uh like,
is your gonna come in and just actually

455
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
managed to kill him? And then
like, is that how they're gonna hush

456
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,559
it up? Like no, because
I feel like we're gonna get him taking

457
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,799
his mask off and he's either gonna
reveal that he is uh like Kimer or

458
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:30,440
whatever that guy's name was, the
Smuggler, or he's fucking thick in this

459
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,039
episode, or it's gonna be someone
else. They did lay it on Thick,

460
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:40,319
which again is sloppy writing, Oh
my god, just like anytime she'd

461
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,000
be like, have you do you
know much the Master? Oh no,

462
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,240
not really? Oh look over there
collect people? Yeah, what do you

463
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,799
mean by that? Look there's a
tree. Like he's just like, oh

464
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,599
my, Like they did that three
I did three separate times where they start

465
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,759
talking about the Master. She asked
a question and then he's like distracted by

466
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:57,680
something else, and it's just I
hope it's red herring. I really do.

467
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:02,559
And that's something where I'll walk it
back. But again that's her.

468
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,880
I don't think it is. And
I think they're trying to be clever.

469
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,160
I think they're trying to Kaisi so
say us, but I just don't.

470
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,319
Let's see, I think the mass
Sith is the mother. And he said,

471
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:12,640
now, was that the one with
the horns or was that the one?

472
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,039
Okay? Yeah, and I've seen
that. I've seen that theory around

473
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,400
too, right. I personally still
would rather be the other mother because I

474
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,680
thought it be They said this Vilm
was like Kira and now I don't worry

475
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,359
it's gonna because it's the fucking smuggler
guy. But it's like Kira was like

476
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,960
a trusting noble, like you wanted
to learn from her, and then it's

477
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,880
like, oh she's a sith,
this smuggah Trey well, no, no,

478
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,680
remember her fake name was Kira.
Remember I don't remember that because isn't

479
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:42,400
her Treya is like when she's dark, so it has all the thing.

480
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,279
Look it up. I think her
fake name when she's like the good Jedi

481
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440
is like k e I r A. Oh crazy, Okay, that's what

482
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,319
it's. Yeah, that's like her
like disguise, right. But for me,

483
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,680
it's like this guy's like portraying a
smuggler who when we met in an

484
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400
episode and was like this poison will
kill somebody. That's not like like Kira

485
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,039
a Kara. God, what's it
was? Again? That's not like Craya

486
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,319
and Tror whatever the fun now you
don't now it's the other one now,

487
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:11,559
Tria, Trea Craya and it's Crayon
and Trea. Yeah. Oh fuck,

488
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,440
that's like that's like r One and
Alwin type of shit. Oh my god,

489
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,400
you know. And he says,
not the one the horns. He

490
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
says, okay, And that's what
I hope. I hope it's that because

491
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
I think that's a better twist and
reveal because she was so caring, she

492
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,240
was so go live your life,
do it. I think these other two

493
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,440
options, the horn one and the
smuggler, are not the best of options,

494
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,960
and I really don't want that.
Oh you just look like him.

495
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,200
He's the Jay Corbet. Oh that
Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. No. The

496
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,279
only reason I know this because I
watched Wrestling and aw and they own the

497
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,119
Jaguars and my console. There you
go, Well, I get hopeful,

498
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,519
I'll think it's common honestly hate the
dude. Then whatever. So here's my

499
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,720
thing too, about the runtime before
you get into May. My problem was

500
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,599
too, there's at least five minutes
I'm talking about this little fucking alien dude.

501
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,359
Is he a they? Is he
a he? What's his name?

502
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400
What's he there? Basle, get
the fuck out of here, Basle,

503
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,079
get out of here. You're like
a scream at May. I'd be fine

504
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,599
if this was a fifty five minute
episode and they had the same screen time.

505
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Does that not bother you that I
feel like so much of the screen

506
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,599
time at least five minutes, which
this is a twenty seven minute show,

507
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,559
that's a lot. It's them talking
about Basle or it's just them walking.

508
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:27,880
It's them walking in a tracker for
bumping into a bug, like I just

509
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:34,319
feel like the idea of like you, it's it's strange because we just made

510
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,759
like we made a movie that features
walking and even an our thing. It's

511
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:44,640
about five minutes. It's a fifty
minute movie and one it's the credits,

512
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,920
and two it like sets the mood. This doesn't really this These did not

513
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,839
really set the mood. It wasn't
like we're in this woods in's dark and

514
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,519
creepy and there's an evil here.
Like imagine if it was like when Gimbling

515
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,279
Legless and Airgorn going to fangling for
us. That's the long but you get

516
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,160
this vibe like something is fucking wrong
here and obviously it's not because again up,

517
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960
but like something's up. You don't
get that. It's them talking.

518
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,559
It's them. The only things I
appreciate that was them like talking about okay,

519
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,400
you know her sense is coming back
and you could be a true Jedi

520
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,039
show out to legou star Wars.
But like that stuff was good. But

521
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:22,000
just them walking, just them talking
about basl or stuff. That stuff,

522
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,160
to me, that was not needed. I did semi appreciate her talking with

523
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,039
Ord, who again, Ord was
not great in this episode. I'm not

524
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,680
not enjoying the character. At first, I wasn't sure if which rat I

525
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,000
was gonna go, But now I
think it's just like it pulls me out.

526
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,279
It's almost just too jedificial. I
did like the conversation of, hey,

527
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,279
don't know if I could take my
sisters, so you'd have to do

528
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,799
it again. I want that to
go on longer, but we only get

529
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:50,640
again like cliff notes of a conversation. It's like if you pull the Wikipeda

530
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,519
page and you read the notes,
but you don't get to see the actual

531
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:58,160
episode. So there's kernel of good
things in here. Same with her talking

532
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,960
to Daphne Keane's character. But I
just think for the screen to the run

533
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,359
time, take out the tracker,
take out just the scenes and them walking

534
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,039
and bumping into a bug. And
I know she says, she sends that

535
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,679
she could easily just send something out, She could send her sisters there,

536
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,119
she could send anything in the fucking
world. She just have to think,

537
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,360
like, oh, I've sensed a
bug and I made it die, Like

538
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,320
I don't need that, Like like
there's like just speed it up, you

539
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:27,039
don't have much time, or give
them the fucking time. But I asked

540
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,960
you a question, how like did
that not bother you? All the screen

541
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,039
times is like we're doing stuff with
this tracker, We're doing lots of hiking

542
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,119
that to me, other than a
few moments, doesn't give us much substance,

543
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,199
Like I just feel like they're wasting
time a bit. I do feel

544
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,519
like they're wasting time. And I
think it is a misopportunity because there was

545
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:50,800
a lot of a lot of focus
on Basil, so that that does pull

546
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:58,679
me out. But uh, yeah, Star Wars because for kids, yeah,

547
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,639
sure, but like it can be. But I think it's again,

548
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,920
you're still gonna tell a story that
everybody enjoys, and which is funny because

549
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,199
this show, Bridgie is not this
is supposed to be sure that was not

550
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,920
gonna be for kids, right,
it was Pitches the dark Side SIEV show.

551
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,519
And I'm not saying we need a
radar and stuff like that, So

552
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,800
I get it. But this is
where I'm saying that you still have to

553
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,400
I don't want if it's characters losing
out or story losing out, the idea

554
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,239
of oh, it's just for kids, then we're lost because jar Jar and

555
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Phantom Mess is for kids. But
there's lots of story going on. Granted,

556
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,519
like in Phantom Menace, like they're
here, I think lots of it

557
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,840
is poorly written, but I still
think there's so much time to do that.

558
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,559
When you don't have the time,
you have to go, Okay,

559
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,679
what is our best option? And
I feel like you could just do one

560
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,920
funny scene with this little tracker guy, but I don't think this is gonna

561
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,280
like get the kids to watch.
To me, something like for the kids

562
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,400
is like Grogu where it's a perfect
bounce of kids and adults can enjoy this.

563
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,639
And that's where if the show was
stronger overall, I could say,

564
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,679
Okay, fine, yeah, put
in the basle. Even porks, right,

565
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:05,920
porks are around Last Jedi, but
they just have like little moments.

566
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,400
And it's in a two and a
half hour movie. This is in a

567
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,599
twenty seven minute episode. You know. It's all about like real estate space.

568
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,119
So yeah, I mean I would
agree with that. I don't.

569
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,000
I think he was an interesting character
and he was kind of funny. I

570
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,719
like at the Star when he was
introduced. But yeah, he definitely was

571
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,199
the focal point kind of moving forward. And well, I understand that,

572
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,559
yes, there are some things and
Star Wars you want there to be for

573
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:34,960
kids, but like you, you, there's so many other ways to kind

574
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,280
of I'm looking at movie examples too. I don't know, it's tricky,

575
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,039
like you get you get Star Wars
things for kids, like certain like the

576
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Young animated show with like Jedi training, like not everything in those movies always

577
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,199
has to be for kids, for
example, like what kids are watching and

578
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Or that's probably my best example,
right, Yeah, so they shouldn't be

579
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,199
afraid to make shows like that.
Well, Mandalorian has some darker moments to

580
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,559
it, it still has that kind
of balance between the two. But and

581
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Ors not for kids. A kid
would be easily bored from that. And

582
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,599
I'm not saying that this needs to
be boring for kids too, but this

583
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,679
is your first show that's really focused
on dozens of Jedi and I don't know,

584
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,639
it's tricky like the prequels, the
prequel movies, Like again, those

585
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,119
are movies, so you have a
lot of more room to play with and

586
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,800
kind of develop these characters, even
though it's very questionable. And then certain

587
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,519
points of view, But I still
think though that that was able. Being

588
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,719
a movie, you get to kind
of focus on those more humorous moments,

589
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,360
but they still get progressively dark,
especially when you get to Revenge of the

590
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Sith. There's not really that much
for comedy or lightheartedness for kids in there,

591
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
as opposed to Phantom Menace. Now
this is pod racing, so in

592
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,679
this here, like you're, yeah, you got to pick your battles.

593
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,960
You got twenty something minutes here,
and you're introducing the Master at the end

594
00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:00,000
of this episode. There's nothing kid
friendly about that when he like Citious floats

595
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,920
down and behind and like the hairs
are going up and no, no,

596
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,360
no, I just mean like movie
insidious, like demon stuff like that,

597
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:14,639
Like you notious, So Citious can
do some wild things. I'm like,

598
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480
I do feel like in those Battlefront
games when you plays me he floats,

599
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:22,880
he floats, he does so to
me, he looked like Voldemort coming down

600
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,639
and stuff. So yeah, let's
take our next outbreak and then we'll get

601
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,599
into May and then we'll get into
the Master and probably some theories and whatnots.

602
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:35,159
We'll be right back Andy and we're
back. So all right, So

603
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,599
Osha, do you have anything to
add on Osha. She's starting to feel

604
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:42,119
the Jedi vibe kind of I think
what we thought would happen. It was

605
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000
weird when Soul asks her, He's
like, well, I need you to

606
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,960
come. I need you and she's
like to be a Jedi and he's like

607
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,639
no, like it just to like
I just need your help. Like it

608
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,440
felt hot for her just to assume
like I'm gonna be a Jedi again,

609
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,760
and like, man, she doesn't
even sound like she's wanted that, but

610
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,000
she's like no, just as like
a as a thing going, you know.

611
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,679
So so one we got that going
on, and before there's another funny

612
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,360
thing where they land. They talk
to this guy, this alien, and

613
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,719
they're trying to look for the Wookie. He's like, well, he went

614
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,039
in the woods, in the forest
and he's never been seen again. And

615
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:17,880
they cut the Soul and he's like
looking into the camera and he's like,

616
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,280
I think he's in there, and
then they pan out and it's just the

617
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,960
forest and it's like, well,
yeah, no shit, the fucking alien

618
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,599
guy just told us he's in the
forest. Like I know, the point

619
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,360
was it's in a certain direction,
but it was just a funny cut up

620
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,840
he's in the forest and souls like
pretending to be a magician, being like,

621
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,840
oh, I know he's in there, Tres Mitchell, It's it's going

622
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,800
good. A lot of people are
saying, Kamar Camier, Kumier, I

623
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,920
can't remember how you say his name
of this as well, Kimary, you're

624
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,239
good at start. His name is
a bad guy. Well, I would

625
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,800
hate that. There are a lot
of clues of you today. We've talked

626
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,559
about that. We'll probably talk about
that again more when we get to the

627
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,920
end of this episode we talk of
the Masters, So stay tuned. But

628
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,960
how are you feeling about Osha starting
to feel some Jedi like again? I

629
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:05,840
mean it makes sense, you know, it's just she's she's in between and

630
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,320
Sandwich or bunkst all these Jedi right, and they're just kind of like,

631
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:13,920
I mean, you're just what's what's
a good example of this? I mean,

632
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,360
I feel like if you immerse yourself
in another country with different languages and

633
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,960
culture, you're eventually gonna start being
able to pick up. For example,

634
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,159
I spent a few weeks in Mexico
and you start, you speaking the language,

635
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,440
you start to pick it up,
and you start it's true, you

636
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:34,199
do. And so I think I'm
not saying like anyone who doesn't have the

637
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,760
force hangs around jets like I can
use a force. But I think she

638
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,440
she had it at one point,
and I think when she's just been around

639
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:46,079
this kind of vibe and this kind
of culture a little bit, she's picking

640
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,199
up on the Jedi vibes again,
the Jedi culture, the Jedi force,

641
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,599
and you know she's tapping into it. So can you say May the Force

642
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:55,960
be with you in Spanish? No? No, no, this was years

643
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,800
ago. I mean I didn't spend
enough time, so fair enough there,

644
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,599
Yeah, I like that enough Again, I'm fine with that little journey.

645
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,760
We'll see all that. So I
didn't an issue. So we have may

646
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:17,559
and uh qumir here kaime here Kai
Kai. Yeah, I guess I thought

647
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:23,000
Ki would be a k but that's
okay. So so you have them.

648
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:28,320
They're oh, they're also walking around, you know, they're they're doing a

649
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,559
lot of talking, just talking about
stuff where it really makes it like he's

650
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:36,280
like, oh, well, the
Master, he really he'd really like it

651
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,039
if you kill these guys without your
blades. And she's just like, there's

652
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,800
two things. One they're just laying
in obvious. Okay, he's the fucking

653
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,239
guy. He's the siff Lord,
because he's saying like the Master would really

654
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
like you to do this, Like
okay, sure, Like I just don't

655
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,559
buy the Master talking with Kmar like
just about all these ideals of the SIF

656
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:59,480
or whatever. Maybe it is so
at that point, I just don't get

657
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,199
it where she's like, yeah,
whatever, fuck it, I used my

658
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,840
blades. There's like no rhyme or
reason. There's no consequences. We can't

659
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,519
talk about the first episode of like, you know, why is she doing

660
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:09,320
it? If they said no weapons, that's still unclear. But whatever.

661
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,760
So there's a lot of walking,
a lot of talking them just again to

662
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,400
me laying on and think that he
is the guy. Cool. We'll probably

663
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,039
get that reveal next few episodes,
and I don't really like that. We'll

664
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,280
talk about it later. So,
uh, to complete the process of their

665
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:31,400
training has just to kill this Jedi. Yeah, I have no way transition

666
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:36,599
to this. This is just like
I don't know if it's the worst writing

667
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,960
in the Disney Star Wars Disney plus
Star Wars era, but I'm definitely gonna

668
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,840
say it's up there. It's top
three. I so last week I talked

669
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,360
about how I really like this sister
dynamic because when they met up, we

670
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:51,760
thought, oh, like in the
past or sorry, in the present day,

671
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,880
I thought, oh, there's gonna
be sisters that loved each other,

672
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,039
that were separated whatever, there's a
reason for them to get back. And

673
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:59,639
then when we got the flashback episode, it was like, oh, cool,

674
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,679
No, it's not that. It's
they actually had kind of a tumultuous

675
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:08,199
relationship and didn't get along all the
time. So after now back in the

676
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:14,039
present day, May has killed two
Jedi Uh said she didn't really want anything

677
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,440
to do with her sister. Randomly, she just goes, you know what

678
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,400
my allegiances are to Osha, not
to the Master. I'm gonna turn myself

679
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:29,400
in tell them everything they need to
know. Are you fucking kidding me out

680
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:36,199
of nowhere? Nothing, nothing at
all in this show or this episode even

681
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,920
gave a hint of her being like
being inspired to change, doing something anything.

682
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,159
All we know is she wants these
Jedi dead. Didn't seem like she

683
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,639
wanted to see her sister. They've
not. And again, even if it

684
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,800
is, they haven't talked much about
it. She hasn't talked much about it.

685
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,639
There's not enough run time to justify
this term that has happened. This

686
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,880
turn is out of nowhere. So
already we talk about man Jedi. They

687
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,599
just fucking are the sith Us.
They love turning them in these shows and

688
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,360
the Disney Plus air right, and
we kind of thought that's probably gonna have

689
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:14,320
with May already halfway through the season
and really for nothing, really for nothing.

690
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,360
It's just like, ah, well, yeah, I'm gonna jump it

691
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:21,719
just for me, for her to
go back to Osha and wanting to be

692
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,960
connected after we just to We got
a whole episode establishing, hey, they're

693
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,159
not as close as you would think
they are, and then the next episode

694
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:30,440
be like, ah nah, she
actually wants to be back to her sister.

695
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,719
That's one, and then two her
to dedicate her whole life. Hey

696
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:37,880
been waiting to kill these Jedi kills
two and go, you know what,

697
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,239
I don't really want to kill the
third one. I'm just gonna turn myself

698
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,519
in and uh, I'll figure it
out. None of this made any sense,

699
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:50,559
So Taylor, the floor is yours
to try to explain why if this

700
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:55,639
worked for you, why it did
work for you? Ah, I want

701
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:59,119
to say that there's gonna be a
little bit more depth to this and something

702
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,239
we just haven't seen yet. But
I'm afraid that there probably isn't. It's

703
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,079
it's a little bit convoluted, and
I'm not sure exactly what the point of

704
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:13,039
the storytelling is and why her allegiance
has changed. And I think it's I

705
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,199
think it's interesting because it's like,
how much does she really know about the

706
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Master? How much does she really
know about anything else? I mean,

707
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,400
we have masters Soul kind of do
a quick mind check on her and thought,

708
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Okay, well, there's not really
anything you can tell us about the

709
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:27,239
Master because you don't even know what
he looks like or who he is.

710
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,760
And now we see in this episode
where oh no, we have leverage because

711
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,400
we'll present Osha to her and that'll
make May tell. Like I felt like

712
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,480
that, like May is somebody planning
on telling. Like the whole like the

713
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:43,400
tension's gone, Like I'm not saying
I don't want them tourn May, but

714
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:46,039
just save it. Like the whole
tension of this episode is we Osh's here

715
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:50,440
in danger, but she's here because
she needs to be to get to May.

716
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:52,599
But she doesn't now May, She's
just gonna if everything if that Wookie

717
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:57,159
wasn't dead, She's just gonna tell
them everything. And here's my point before

718
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,559
you continue, John, you say
that the change comes from being proximity.

719
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:04,400
Osha, they're different people part they
were different. We got a whole episode

720
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,679
last week showing how different they were
together. I'll kill you. One wants

721
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,639
to be a witch, one wants
to be a Jedi. They literally have

722
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:14,559
a conversation of I don't want to
live your life. I don't always want

723
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,559
to be associated with you. I
want to be my own person. They

724
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:20,960
were. That was what I didn't
understand. Then last week they should have

725
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,639
showed, oh, they were really
close, so I could understand May thinks

726
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,880
her sister is dead, she's alive. Oh my god, I'm in the

727
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,800
wrong here. But last week they
did a whole episode of like showing they

728
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,840
are different when they are together,
and this makes sense. To be fair,

729
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,719
they never really did a good job
making May seem convincedly Evel in the

730
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,119
first place, she's still willingly killed
Jedi like that thing. And to me,

731
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,280
she like Taylor said, she didn't
I'll kill you do a little girl.

732
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,639
I know it's a little girl,
but still that's a that's a big

733
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,800
thing to jump to. So for
me, it's just like, and that's

734
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,679
the thing in general, just in
general, we don't have enough time to

735
00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:00,320
flesh out these characters, you know, mm hmm. Yeah. So I

736
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,239
think that when you look at the
relationship dynamic here, it's and just how

737
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,159
she's kind of like favored her sister
with a master. I don't know,

738
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:15,000
it's it again within a twenty minute
timeframe. It's just not ideal. And

739
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,559
I would have liked a little bit
more kind of a build up going on

740
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,519
here. But also episode four,
like it's just four. It's such a

741
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:27,400
quick turnaround to just go from their
twins, they hate each other, she

742
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,679
wants to be back with her twins. It's just it's it's neck snapping whiplash

743
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,400
effect, how quick it is,
you know it is. And so I

744
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:38,639
a part of me, though,
does feel like the fact that, Okay,

745
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:43,599
the Master appears the Master, just
like Force flicks and Osha goes fucking

746
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:45,880
flying. I like that because I
think, Okay, obviously these twins have

747
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,679
a larger part to play here,
or maybe he thinks he can take Osha

748
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,559
and he wants to go. At
this point, I'm convinced he wants to

749
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:59,800
kill May, which I think is
interesting. Probably, Yeah, I think

750
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,000
there's always a chance one of the
twins could die too as well, just

751
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:06,280
so they don't have to have her
acting twice and everything. I could,

752
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,440
Yeah, absolutely, But I do
think that I feel like we could always

753
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,840
see the roles kind of flip here
where Obviously, if Vader can be redeemed,

754
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,119
they can be redeemed apparently, but
anybody can be redeemed. Anyone can

755
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:22,519
be redeemed. But so may Is
would maybe come like the kind of the

756
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,719
hero here and try to save Osha. Should have a prison after I'm telling

757
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,760
her to prison, Osha is the
one that turns to you know, false,

758
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,440
to the dark side, guess a
good. I don't know. I

759
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:36,880
feel like both of them are probably
gonna die. And yeah, I don't

760
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,440
think I won't go that far.
I don't think, oh she's gonna die.

761
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,880
I think she'll be a consistent main
character. I think May can always

762
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,119
bite it. And here's the thing, like John, like I get the

763
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:49,320
point here is there's no way the
show's about May turning good, which I

764
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:51,519
disagree. If I think there is
a way the show is about that,

765
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,559
like Reva Kylo Rn I think there's
another one in there where it's just like

766
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,840
they've been obsessed with turning these people
good, but Scott can't be redeemed.

767
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,559
Oh, I'm sure they'd find some
sort of way. No, I think

768
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,519
that's probably the one of the if
you may were to make them out rush

769
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:12,320
more like him in Plaguus. But
I don't think Palpatine could be redeemed.

770
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,719
But hey, maybe maybe you find
out all he had some bad parents and

771
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,840
stuff. But anyways, John said
otherwise it would have happened in episode eight,

772
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,239
not four. They're also a lot
more to be revealed, but that's

773
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,800
my problem. Was like, even
if the show is not about turning May

774
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,119
good, even if it is,
she thinks about turning good and then says

775
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,800
evil, just even her thinking about
turning good, I don't think the motivations

776
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,559
are there for you know, that's
all I want, even in and this

777
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,360
is where it's completely different. Right, But I feel like for a while

778
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,800
we didn't want we accepted in episode
nine, but I feel like if you

779
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,760
look at our history in Geek first, we were wanting kylo Ren to say

780
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,400
the path be evil. We've done. We don't want to be Vader again,

781
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,519
right, but even then Han Solo, his mom, the Ray connection,

782
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,360
there are all these things of you
could see why kylo Ren could turn,

783
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:59,239
right, They've not shown us anything
with me of why she should turn

784
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,639
and even Mike's they know I've showed
us enough of hurt being evil. They've

785
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,239
just not showed enough period to be
making such big leaps of even the like

786
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:12,199
it's odd for me where she's not
really wanted to kill Jedi and yet da

787
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,639
da, But then I feel I
recall on episode one when she finds the

788
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,320
Master standing a rock, isn't she
like looking all evil like that? She's

789
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,400
just like she's like smiling and she's
all happy she did it. She did.

790
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,760
It's just like, if this is
a character that's torn and maybe it

791
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,920
doesn't want to kill people and it's
rethinking it, and like Mike says,

792
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,880
maybe not completely evil. Why are
you smiling after you murdered this woman?

793
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,760
You know? And maybe it could
just be to get revenge on what they

794
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,199
did, and that's what we could
get next week. But it's just happening

795
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:42,719
oh way too fast. I did
think. I didn't think so because we

796
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,760
saw the trailer, but my in
my heart, I was hoping that they

797
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,920
did a switch through where when you're
talking about Oshan being evil, I thought

798
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,199
the most hype thing would have been
in the trailer when they show the Jedi

799
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,239
turned around, the lightsaber goes,
and then you know, the Sith takes

800
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,599
them out. I would have loved
if they Hulk and Finny ward Us and

801
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:04,119
they turned around and osh had a
red light saber and it was fucking fooling

802
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,360
them the whole time and just popped
off on them. I was like,

803
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:08,800
man, I was hoping. I
was like, that could at least give

804
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,400
me some intrigue of whether she's been
framing whether it's like, uh, what

805
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,239
is it like a god? What
am I forgetting his name? A reven

806
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,440
situation? I was like, oh, man, there might be a chance.

807
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:23,599
But no, he floated down and
everything so ah sweet to mention that,

808
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:27,519
Okay, so May is gonna find
the Wookie. Uh, the Wookie's

809
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,000
already been dead, Like Wookie's dead
chopped up after me. He's like,

810
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:34,679
he'll never find me here while you're
finding here, because he's the the smuggler

811
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,119
guy. He was hanging upside down, he like, you know, got

812
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:40,039
out now he's like even the frame
of him to me looks like the smuggler

813
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,880
guy in my opinion, looks like
a similar build. So he's in there.

814
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,800
They they haven't seen the Wookie the
other Jedi, but they're assuming he's

815
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,760
dead and they're assuming May did it. So they're asking him to come up

816
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,639
with his hands up and you know, the whole copper teine or her hands

817
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,599
up and the whole copper teine.
And then Soul, which I like,

818
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,639
said, this is where I again
with the powers. You don't need to

819
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,360
hurt have or bump into a bug. Soul just senses something's off. You

820
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,880
know, there's something wrong. And
I loved like the quick like the slow

821
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:15,400
turnaround and then I something. I
bet might not like this because we've not

822
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:19,199
seen a Jedi or a sif like
float or anything like that. I personally

823
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,440
do because one there's hundreds of years, many different powers. Who knows what

824
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,679
they could do right? And for
me it was given a fairy like Lord

825
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,519
Voldemort vibes in my opinion, which
I don't even know if he floats at

826
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,199
all. He like flies and stuff. I don't even floats, but I

827
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,320
did that to me was a really
good shot of over shoulder. He's just

828
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,519
blurred. He comes down and then
he gets in the frame. I thought

829
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,679
that was really cool, the lightsabers
that come out, So I thought that

830
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,920
scene was good. Again, the
cliffhangers suck because you know, that's all

831
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,760
we've seen him previous. It's like, oh, can we get a little

832
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,880
bit more? But that's fine,
we'll see what happens next week. So

833
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,000
I think the scene in an isolated
vacuum is good and it was intriguing.

834
00:52:55,519 --> 00:53:00,440
But again, it was the stuff
that I was kind of unfortunate you checked

835
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,920
out by that point because I was
so kind of upset with everything else they'd

836
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,000
done. That was to me pretty
poor writing at that point. But this

837
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,800
was a cool scene and I uh, again I'm still on the fence about

838
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,079
the actual mask, But yeah,
what did you think about this scene?

839
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:20,239
Well, I mean the scene was
great. It gave me goosebumps when I

840
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,320
when she goes into the hot and
you see kal Naka like very unfortunately.

841
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,280
I love wookies and so the fact
that kil Naka was just just toast.

842
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,039
And when you see like the slash
and you're trying to hone in like what

843
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,559
actually like happened, then you see
the lightsaber slash on his chest and it's

844
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:38,119
still simmering, and you're like,
oh, fuck, this guy's this guy's

845
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:44,360
here, and Osha realizes that too, and I just got goosebumps because yeah,

846
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,840
they told the sorry, I may
may just tell the body. And

847
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Osha is behind the Jedi. And
so when they're looking, uh, May's

848
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,559
looking out and you see Osha and
behind the Jedi, and then you see

849
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:00,800
just the faint like silhouette of him
just kind of descending back. You see

850
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:09,239
the mask and everything. I am
wondering if this is I obviously Plagas is

851
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,800
canon, and so I don't know. I mean, maybe Disney could just

852
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,480
wreck ca on that and be like, Okay, we're gonna change that up.

853
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,960
But as far as Darth, as
far as Darth Tenebrisk goes, that's

854
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:23,199
that's a different story. But I
feel like whatever we got here that this

855
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:29,199
guy calling himself the Master is not
He's obviously not the Master. I feel

856
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,800
like there's obviously we're gonna get that
Plaguis character who's pulling the puppet strings above

857
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,239
a real guy. I think.
So when I think, and this is

858
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:44,159
my own interpretation and I'm probably wrong, but kill Jedi, kill a Jedi

859
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,159
without a weapon. That's what May
is like living and breathing right now,

860
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,360
And so what if she's not Maybe
because she's killed Jedi with weapons. That's

861
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,320
how she killed kill a Jedi without
a weapon though, right, that's what

862
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,199
she has to do. Yeah,
but she didn't do that. She didn't

863
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,360
do that. That's why she's freaking
out right now. So you have the

864
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,599
master who gave her this mission.
And now I'm starting to wonder, Okay,

865
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:08,480
wouldn't it be something if Darth Plagas
basically looked at this guy as his

866
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,519
accolyte and his you know you want
in well, I want you to go

867
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,360
kill Jedi without a weapon. He
tells that to this guy, and so

868
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,039
this guy's like, Okay, how
can I kill Jedi without a weapon.

869
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:20,360
I'll get someone else to do it
for me. Then I'm killing them,

870
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,039
but I'm not using a weapon to
do so it kind of fits when you

871
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:27,239
think about it, and it'd be
interesting to see if that's why he's playing

872
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,440
May to kind of do this for
him, and then he just would be

873
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,519
the one to kind of step up
and get that that rightful place among Plagas

874
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:39,559
his pupils or something like that.
I guess assuming Plagas is the head Haunt

875
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,960
show behind the scenes. But I
just look at the way that this guy's

876
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:49,280
armor looks and everything like that.
He's he's freaky and he's cool and he

877
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:53,280
is powerful. But I don't get
the vibe that he's definitely our main,

878
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,920
our main be all and al sith
Lord. At this time, I do

879
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:02,880
not detect that whatsoever. I would
like you to be right, But with

880
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,320
the writing the show, I think
it is. I think it is,

881
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:13,320
and I think I think they're My
worry is is that they When this show

882
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,800
started, I thought, oh,
for sure, you get play it's your

883
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,800
Palpatine. It's close enough. If
there's some years, but it'll start to

884
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,760
lay the groundwork. I think there's
enough chance they don't even they don't even

885
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,599
do that. Now I'm coming from
a place of not enjoy this episode,

886
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,559
So that could be my bias speaking
right now, of just thinking, oh,

887
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:30,199
that's not gonna be the case.
And I don't say, oh,

888
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:34,800
we got planned for multiple seasons,
but I just feel like it's just gonna

889
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,480
be this Sith and they win or
lose, and if they win, they

890
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:39,320
just go off and maybe they can
act with play against or whatnot, and

891
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,639
I don't know. It's interesting because
they say it is a master imprinted situation,

892
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,039
but may is she is an apprentice, I guess, but not in

893
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:52,320
this I think true Sith form.
So like she's not using heavy force power,

894
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,719
she's in a red lightsaber. So
yeah, I really don't know on

895
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,639
that one. I don't know because
my confidence is kind of shaking the show,

896
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:01,639
so I can't tell you for sure. I would like that to be

897
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,400
the case. And I think that's
if this was a show that could go

898
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,199
multiple seasons, you could do that, right. But it's even stuff like

899
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,400
I know they like, oh,
we don't want to leave the big characters.

900
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,239
I still think it's all that Yoda's
not on the show, even for

901
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,039
a scene, you know, like
why is Yoda not around? And that's

902
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:19,840
why I just worries, like they
might not want to connect to the biggest

903
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,480
ones and just leave it on their
own. Things like oh, it's one

904
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:24,559
hundred years later and that guy got
killed and no one need to talk about

905
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:29,280
or he survived, but yeah,
maybe he met Plagas down the line and

906
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,280
nit who knows. It could get
a little risky of oh he he was

907
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,840
the trainer of Plaguas and he trained
Palpatine, and yet the star Killers on

908
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:44,559
there there. But yeah, before
I get to your final predations here and

909
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:47,039
says, did you guys get romantic
fives from Ocean Jecki? Yes, I

910
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:51,599
did a little, yes, But
the show probably won't go there as usual.

911
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,480
They will cut away and fade a
black when they're about to kiss,

912
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:57,440
or they're not gonna give them anything
a merit. They're gonna hold hands a

913
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,360
big oh yeah, we're in love
now, and that's it because Disney obsessed

914
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,159
with money, and god forbid there's
a gay person or a gay kiss in

915
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:07,719
a show that you can't or really
that you can't edit out. You know,

916
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,679
well, I just think that if
they do kiss, the Jedi order

917
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,079
just be like, oh, we
won't tell the High Counsel this either.

918
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:22,239
You know, we're all for love
and attachments, right, that sounds dirty.

919
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Oh, we won't tell them this. Yours is pitching orgy. So

920
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,039
you know what else we won't tell
them about. I don't no, I

921
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,599
guess the easy answer would be that
Jeckie is Jedi, right, so you'd

922
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,639
assume that she wouldn't give into such
temptations, right. So the thing,

923
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,360
yeah, and the point we know
that the Jedi are all about like going

924
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:49,599
to sleeping around? Right, what's
your earlier real man? Alvar old Man,

925
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:52,440
you know, not him, he's
the Oh no, was it l

926
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,559
R yet loading? I was getting
load in grade Storm confused with him lone

927
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:02,119
Gray Storm wasn't getting fucking and that
sell it with with marsh and Roe.

928
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:07,159
Yeah, no, Lzar is you
know he's always plinn aff Dravar Chris and

929
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:15,559
then yeah Alvarez ral Ral Olivarez right, yeah, yeah, he he should

930
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:17,519
be around this time period soon,
right he trains Qui go when he's an

931
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:22,960
older man. I would love to
see reel Man that. I would fucking

932
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:27,039
do anything to make a Disney Plus
show about him. But my point is

933
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:36,159
that that's like the perfect way too, where you could do a like you

934
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:40,960
could do a romantic story that features
gay characters and for Disney not have to

935
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,960
do it because you can make them
never kiss because one wants to but one

936
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:47,599
can't be cause she's a Jedi,
and you could have that longing for one

937
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:51,400
another, and if you were to
write it good, you could actually make

938
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,119
it very central and romantic with not
even any touching or kissing, just the

939
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,519
fact that these two want to be
together so badly, but they can't.

940
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,880
But no, they probably won't do
that, and who knows, I don't

941
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,840
know what they're gonna do there again, talk about the stuff that's in here,

942
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,760
like Daphne Keen, like the makeup. I think she's good in the

943
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,920
show. I still don't have enough
of that character either. You know,

944
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:15,360
there's just there's still too many characters
in this amount of episode that we don't

945
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,800
have enough backstory on. So where
are you as far as who you're thinking

946
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,400
this evil person is right now?
Because we've talked about a little bit.

947
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:27,039
I do think it's the smuggler guy. I think they're doing some red herrings

948
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:29,840
quotation Mark. I would love to
be wrong. I would love to be

949
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,440
the main mother and Nissa I don't
even know. I guess I would probably

950
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,159
prefer to be the horned one at
least, because I just feel like they

951
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,920
just laid on too thick with this
guy to the point where it's like I'm

952
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:45,280
not as interested. But yeah,
who do you think? I mean,

953
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,880
the mother definitely fits the bill,
it does, but I feel like they've

954
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:55,280
really laid it on hard that this
is Kime here. I mean, he's

955
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,599
hanging upside down or what unless he
was able to just like flick his switch

956
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:05,079
and the Master is able to just
fly there and like catch up through the

957
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:09,360
woods get to that location. It's
just to play Devil's advocate. Unless the

958
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Master was already there and this was
a test for her, right, he

959
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:16,239
was just chilling. Yeah, that's
actually a good point. That's true.

960
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,280
How do you have got even the
guy? I guess he could just use

961
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,719
his four speed because they can.
But like the fact that if he did

962
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,599
kill that Wookie, he would have
been there fast, right, So I

963
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:29,840
wouldn't mind as far as like if
he's been there the whole time. But

964
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,159
it's probably just our boy hanging upside
down. I think so. And I

965
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:38,119
think it's just a it's a testament
to the sloppy storytelling of of I don't

966
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:40,719
want to say all things these days, but there's so many things that just

967
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:49,280
are just really shitty storytelling. And
I'm I consider myself, not I shouldn't

968
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,639
say that that's kind of offensive.
You know, I'm gonna say it's not.

969
01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:01,039
It's not that offensive. I consider
myself, And you know, how

970
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:04,719
do I wear this? I don't
know. I don't want to cancel myself,

971
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,599
I consider myself not an idiot,
and I feel like Cancel, he

972
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,840
is an idiot. He is an
idiot. I feel like this writing is

973
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:22,280
just really dumbed down for people that
are I don't want to say that,

974
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,199
oh, we're writing this for idiots. That's that's very very long, but

975
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,880
they're dumbing it down for people.
Though to me it feels more like and

976
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,480
not that this is still dumbing it
down. But for me, and this

977
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:37,599
has happened before with the live action
stuff, it feels sometimes like the animated

978
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,559
stuff. There's tons of that animated
stuff that is adult and like like with

979
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:44,000
Clone warst even seven, like it
hits certain heights, but then there's tons

980
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:47,639
of Clone Wars or bad Batch or
not bad Batch for me, like Rebels

981
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,639
that it's like, oh, this
feels very uh just kind of young teen

982
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:54,840
none in the sense that people been
like, oh, the show's young teen

983
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,639
CW. I get that. I
think this episode of the most like young

984
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,519
teen vibes out of all of them. But it's to be accessible to anybody,

985
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:04,280
and I don't mean anybody like,
oh, you're not a Star Wars

986
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,400
fan, like of any age,
which there can be good because like John

987
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,760
says like Star Wars is for kids, but I still think, like I

988
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,639
still watch the original trilogy and enjoyed
all those even if there's stuff that I

989
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:19,000
didn't understand as a kid, right, and then I understand more as it

990
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:21,800
went on. This feels like in
general, it doesn't have that. I

991
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,280
don't think there's anything in here that
people don't understand other than hey, this

992
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,239
writing or this moment doesn't make sense, right, So I can agree to

993
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,239
you with that where it feels like
almost to play it's safe, we have

994
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,480
to make it this route. But
I just I just don't think that,

995
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,679
because I think the best shows in
the world currently right now usually shows with

996
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:44,880
deep characters that have very sprawling out
storylines that are thick and layered, not

997
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:50,679
just like very basic. Right,
So let's see, Tres says the place

998
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,239
Kmar was May says his timians self
to Kala Naka's house, so he could

999
01:03:57,239 --> 01:03:59,960
get there pretty quick, But how
could he beat her because she's already on

1000
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,519
the way, right unless he's forced. He's floating, right, He's just

1001
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:09,320
floating the trees, right, He's
fucking Superman over here. He's just flying.

1002
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,800
He's gonna do first flight. Kimar
has to be a misdirect, right,

1003
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,719
it's too obvious to be true.
I I would hope so, but

1004
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,079
like I said, for me,
the writing for this episode has been,

1005
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:21,679
you know, a little iffy.
This was the first one with bad writing.

1006
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:27,320
I I don't think it's the realm
possibility. I think that that is

1007
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,079
that would fit the whole uh career
at Tyra thing or what the hell is

1008
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:41,039
her name? Again? I feel
like I knew them before this episode.

1009
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:43,880
It is probably because we record psychlists
before this. I'm a little tired,

1010
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,480
but I think that fits the Cray
and Tray thing, even though I don't

1011
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,000
think it fits because he's a smuggler, bad guy ready. But the idea

1012
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:55,039
of you know, a false identity
and then the real ones revealed because the

1013
01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:58,559
mothers, that wouldn't be the case, right, I think you could make

1014
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:00,000
that with the mother and he said
because she was nice, but she was

1015
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,159
also dead, so or like,
even if she was presumed to be dead,

1016
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:05,719
you could say a lot change with
her. I think this is much

1017
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:11,679
more like the Ka Ka Kreya tria, where it is like they're presenting you

1018
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,280
one thing, this kind of dopey
smuggler that is, you know, a

1019
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,440
little charismatic versus this dark killing Sith
guy, right, so I think it

1020
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:21,800
is. I hope I'm wrong,
but I hope I was wrong with a

1021
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,480
few things with the show and I
wasn't so And then Soul will You touched

1022
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,320
on this a little bit. He
says he's gonna tell them, tell them

1023
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,039
everything that went down, the truth. So hopefully next week we'll get that.

1024
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:36,000
I imagine he's alive to tell that
story. Right, Oh, I

1025
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:41,960
could see them not keeping him alive, But I do wonder like maybe they

1026
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,119
were grilling him like, oh,
why didn't you tell me about May?

1027
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:46,239
And he's like, I didn't know. I didn't know, like she was

1028
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,639
supposed to be dead. Like makes
me think, like, okay, like

1029
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,320
what if they were like flying up
in the ship and the windows is May

1030
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,360
behind and it's like, oh no, we're not turning around, like oh

1031
01:05:56,519 --> 01:06:01,480
my, I don't know. So
hopefully not poor writing. Yeah, oh,

1032
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:08,000
there's definitely no one back there.
There's something obviously going on with that

1033
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:11,519
storyline, and I'm very curious to
know what it is because they eluded that.

1034
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:15,440
Okay, it was the Jedi like
Master Tobin just you know, he

1035
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:19,079
juiced himself with that poison and killed
himself. So what's obviously going on here?

1036
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:23,599
And Master Soul doesn't seem like the
kind of character to me that would

1037
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:27,880
go in and just kill a bunch
of witches aggressively if it was an act

1038
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,960
of defense, maybe, and then
they kind of like worm. I mean,

1039
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,519
the Jedi are always crafty and abducting
kids, right, they're either gambling

1040
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:39,280
on your your family likes your freedom
and pod races, or they're you know,

1041
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,119
they don't kidnap you, but they'll
gamble for you and all that stuff.

1042
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:47,519
So yeah, I am of two
minds of that, because I think

1043
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:56,199
if they reveal that the Jedi did
something shady, I think unfortunately adds more

1044
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,639
to May's previous storyline of they did
some bad stuff. I'm here for revenge.

1045
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,159
If we get the situation where now
she's like wanting to turn herself in

1046
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,679
and work with the Jet, I
give them the information and that's revealed all

1047
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:13,360
the Jet did really fuck over her
family, It's like, well what do

1048
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,000
we do here? Like like why
do we even turn her good? Then?

1049
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,920
Like that that's perfect motivation for her
character here, right, and how

1050
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,039
would she feel would she flip back? I don't know? Again, risky.

1051
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:26,440
I am intrigued by that, but
I'm more worried about that now because

1052
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,840
i just feel like it's gonna be
something that's unsatisfactory. And yeah, I

1053
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,000
really don't know. Again, I
hope next week I will be very Would

1054
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,000
you be mad if you don't see
the fight or kills that fight it's just

1055
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,920
like they pick up and they're on
the spaceship and they tell the story and

1056
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,400
they show like quick flashes, I
would be pretty disappointed. To me,

1057
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:47,519
I really hope that the episode.
What I think would just be great is

1058
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:51,559
if he's gonna kill these Jedi,
open up with like a seven to ten

1059
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:55,280
an episode. If it's only me
twenty seve minutes, use half that screen

1060
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,880
time for like a great fucking big
lightsaber battle. I'm not saying you got

1061
01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:03,119
be Luke Invader in the Throne room. I'm saying you gotta be Hayden and

1062
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,880
Obi Wan like just something though you
got all these Jedis. If it's just

1063
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,440
yeah, well he killed us all, then man, that that's not exciting

1064
01:08:11,519 --> 01:08:14,599
because like shows these lightsaber sitting each
other, you know, shows that type

1065
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:19,920
of stuff. The most I've ever
gotten in Star Wars Live Action would be

1066
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,800
Palpatine versus the four Jedi masters like
kid Fisto, Mace wind Do and like

1067
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,279
those two of those fuckers were out
in seconds. They couldn't last long.

1068
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:33,000
And then kid Fisto got two blocks
and then he was done and then it

1069
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:36,479
was just one on one, and
it's usually one on one or you get

1070
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,520
well, you didn't even get two
on one in attack of the Clones,

1071
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,760
the Obi Wan and Anakin, because
Anakin was like, going, no,

1072
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,479
I'm taking him now. He just
charged his Dooku. So we we actually

1073
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,880
phantom menas did you get two of
them we want? So there's that,

1074
01:08:53,119 --> 01:08:56,560
yeah, and I want more of
that. And I think to have this

1075
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,920
whole roster like of Jedi masters here
in Night, I think that would be

1076
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,600
wonderful to see them face up against
the Master here and actually show a choograph

1077
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,920
fight. I think a few of
them will get killed. Scary too,

1078
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:12,279
right, kill scary kill all these
Jedi. But if it's just like oh

1079
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,159
souls telling the story of how they
got killed, they don't show no footage

1080
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,640
as well, they miss into their
chance to make this character be intimidating.

1081
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,920
Right, It's kind of like it's
quick stuff. But when you get to

1082
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,640
see Anakin going to that musta far
and killing all those people, or Obi

1083
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,600
Wan pulling up the footage and seeing
him just you know, he literally is

1084
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,000
choking one Jedi and killing another one
like one handed right, Like it's just

1085
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:35,640
little stuff. They could use quick
flashes, but I would hope would be

1086
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,640
something longer. But I could see
it just being a story. I could

1087
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,319
too, and I really hope it's
not. I don't want the quick flashes.

1088
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,399
I don't want the story. I
want them to just yeah, I

1089
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,640
need to have a well choographed fight. I want to see them go into

1090
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:55,239
town. And there's a couple stills
that I saw of like Soul and Zeki

1091
01:09:55,359 --> 01:10:00,399
that's her name right of them just
with their lightsabers out and just like combat

1092
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,880
stance. I think we'll get a
little bit. And that's that's all I

1093
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,680
need. Like I am man,
I'm working, I'm working a lot of

1094
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,479
hours at work, and I look
forward to these Tuesday nights at six pm.

1095
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,399
I got my dinner going, and
I just want to come home and

1096
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,439
I want to watch that big fight. And here I thought I was gonna

1097
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,840
get a little bit of it this
week, and they cut it. These

1098
01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:20,359
fucking cliffhangers. Man, they cut
it right at the good part. A

1099
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,880
back was coming to be able to
smash to my TV as he got plasted.

1100
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,760
Another man, I gotta wait another
seven fucking days. So what scenario

1101
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:34,520
would you like? Least the scenario
of them telling the story about him killing

1102
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,399
the Jedi or the scenario where he, as Mikes is just smoke bombs out

1103
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:43,479
of there like a batman and the
fight never happens, which so he just

1104
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,479
blasts them and then smoke bombs.
Which wouldn't you prefer the smoke bomb or

1105
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,560
the telling of the story of him
killing the people. I would take the

1106
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,840
smoke bomb because at least I feel
like we're gonna get another fight. I

1107
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,840
feel like that would guarantee us getting
a confrontation later. But if he's his

1108
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,520
soul is just retelling it and just
telling us like, oh, we lost

1109
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:08,079
fifteen of our Jedi and I'm me
and Zacy were the only ones to survive

1110
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:13,399
your disappear, like that would be
horrible, not even may just yeah,

1111
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:23,680
Soul kills himself, but oh yeah, that's oh, that's a that's a

1112
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,279
that's a tricky situation. I'm just
more of laughing as I'm think about Mike's

1113
01:11:27,319 --> 01:11:30,359
calming of they show this in the
trailers. It's a cliffang for episode four

1114
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,600
and if it's just they pick up
and I where is he's gone? What

1115
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:40,960
a set of blue balls that is? That's really tough. He shows up,

1116
01:11:41,079 --> 01:11:44,079
he turns his lightsaber on it and
then just disappears in the smoke.

1117
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:47,880
That's yeah, bold move or fucking
may kills him on one blow and that's

1118
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:54,039
in. Then just Star Wars goes. But yeah, I guess what sees

1119
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:59,479
there any other notes that we haven't
tackled yet. I think that's everyef thing.

1120
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,520
I'm looking forward to knowing what Kirkland
thinks he's behind by two episodes,

1121
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,000
and so we don't even know what
Star Wars is rooined for him yet,

1122
01:12:05,079 --> 01:12:10,920
right, Yeah, it's not.
It's not been destroyed yet. I think

1123
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,479
he'll be somewhat in the middle,
leaning a bit more your way, but

1124
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,840
then a bit more negative on some
other stuff. But who knows, he

1125
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,239
could maybe he'll end up paying it. I don't know. I am very

1126
01:12:21,319 --> 01:12:25,039
curious he should be back. We're
hoping he was gonna be back this week,

1127
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:28,079
but he still couldn't finish the episodes
with his flight with his family,

1128
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:32,720
so that's okay. We'll hear from
him for episode five. But yeah,

1129
01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:36,399
I'm interesting what he got's going on. But yeah, that's it for this

1130
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,520
week. Thank you everyone in the
chat. Thank you everyone. We'll be

1131
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,880
back next week. I think next
week we'll probably be on a little earlier,

1132
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,239
like an eight pm PSD. We're
a little later this time because we

1133
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:51,000
had to record some other stuff,
but usually now try and drop the time

1134
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:55,840
for some of these post review shows
that are maybe a bit more earlier.

1135
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,880
But yeah, thank everyone that tuned
in. We will see what goes down

1136
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:02,880
next week with the show, and
I promise you it'll not be boring.

1137
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:11,640
I forced to be with you always
took my line, totally forgot, so

1138
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,800
I'm so stressed about the showm
