WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:19.160 Alrighty, welcome in Dennis Fifthy in here on ex'es and Bros. On the 2 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:24.679 Michigan Sports Network. Coming up at the top of the hour, the immediate 3 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:30.559 futures of Flaherty and schoolbl for the Detroit Tigers. We'll try to figure out 4 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:36.679 make heads and tails on what those guys, what caps they'll be wearing for 5 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:40.960 the rest of the summer. Right now, we're going to talk a little 6 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:46.119 college basketball as we bring in the head coach from Oakland University. That's Greg 7 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:49.200 Campy, who joins us here on Exes and Bros. Good morning, coach, 8 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:52.479 How you doing. I'm doing great, Dennis. How are you? 9 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.200 Man? It's summertime be on the golf course. Well, I was going 10 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:00.520 to say, I was going to guess that you're either get ready to go 11 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:06.640 buy your pool, or you're you're driving to some non air conditioning gym to 12 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.680 watch kids play pickup, or you're in the parking lot putting on your shoes 13 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:14.359 at Oakland Hills getting ready to play the south course. Which one is it? 14 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.959 Well, it's kind of a combination. I'm heading into the office. 15 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.519 We've got to work out this morning, our team does, and then we've 16 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.760 got I can't play to day at Oakland Hills because of the US Junior AM's 17 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.760 there. Oh yeah, I've been working that during this week. It's been 18 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:34.079 kind of fun to see to see these kids hit that ball the way they 19 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:38.000 hit it, it's crazy. But it's been quite a week. So yeah, 20 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.680 I'm gonna do a little bit of both today. Well, we'll have 21 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.920 to ask you about Charlie if we have time coming up here. No, 22 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.640 Oakland one of the big stories, not just the biggest story of the state 23 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.879 of Michigan, but one of the biggest stories of the n n CUAA tournament 24 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.599 this last year. You win the Horizon League, you you win the tournament, 25 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.280 and you draw a blue blood in Kentucky in the first round. Let's 26 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:08.000 start there. How did you get the team prepared for John Calipari's Wildcats. 27 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.520 Well, we liked the matchup, you know, it was going into it. 28 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:16.199 As I was looking at we thought we were going to make it to 29 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:21.759 be a thirteen seed and we didn't. So I was a little disappointed when 30 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.319 I saw our name on the fourteen seed line because we had you know, 31 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:30.680 we'd wanted Xavier. We had taken Ohio State in Illinois to the Wire. 32 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.439 We had a tremendous conference season, so I really was a little surprised that 33 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:39.879 we fell to fourteen. And then when Kentucky came up, I was really 34 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.639 excited because you know, you knew you were going to get the primetime game 35 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.840 on Thursday night. It was either going to be Thursday or Friday night at 36 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.280 seven o'clock on CBS. And you know, that's that's what this tournament's about, 37 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.639 is getting an opportunity that's unbelievable and then doing something with that opportunity. 38 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.719 And you know, we felt we'd like to match up because you know, 39 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.439 we play, this is this matchup zone that we play, and we can 40 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.120 really really take something away in what they were best in the country at shooting 41 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:12.400 at three and I thought we could take that away from him, and I 42 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:16.840 wasn't too concerned about their scoring inside, and so the game plan, you 43 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.360 know, it was kind of a matchup for us, you know, a 44 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.000 good matchup, and it proved out that way. Yeah, it was such 45 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.759 an awesome game to watch all the way through. And you know, like 46 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.159 I said, I think everybody would agree. He guys one of the stories 47 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.800 of the tournament, but he also had a player on your team in that 48 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.840 first game, and Jack Loki, you know, he's what the tournament's all 49 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.159 about as well. You know, I don't know if the box score, 50 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.199 I don't know if the box score doesn't do it justice. I looked at 51 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:47.000 it as ten for twenty from downtown, but I don't remember the stretch where 52 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.280 he seemed like he made like eight in a row or whatever it was. 53 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.960 He ends up with thirty two points. It was awesome. I mean, 54 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:58.240 what about his performance. You get asked a lot about that, but you're 55 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.199 probably not getting tired of talking about Loki. That was one of the great 56 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.520 performances that I've seen in the tournament. Oh It'll go down as one of 57 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:10.919 the best in history because not just so much of you know that he made 58 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.560 ten twenty from the three, but it was against and how important those shots 59 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:18.319 were. It wasn't in a blowout, it wasn't in a you know, 60 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.720 a ten point or fifteen point when it was in a game that came down 61 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:26.439 to the wire, and he did. He missed his first three, and 62 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.839 he missed three in a row in the second half, and we forget that 63 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.160 because he was I mean, the shots he was making, they were tough 64 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:36.040 shots. He played with great confidence. They were deep. I mean, 65 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:41.000 he he had a couple from the logo. I mean, he just but 66 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.720 that's not the only time this year he did that. I mean, there's 67 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:47.240 something that he can do. And then you know his reaction to some of 68 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:53.199 the shots and one Shining moment, you know, in the Shooting Star part 69 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:57.720 of the one Shining Moment they had him and so it was it was really 70 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.199 cool. You know, ten years from now when they showing up SAT, 71 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.879 they're gonna show Jack Bokie making three and so he's kind of solidified his spot 72 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:09.600 in that tournament more for a long long time. Greg Campy with us here 73 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:14.480 on Axes and Bros. Across the state of Michigan. I've seen the shooting 74 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:18.279 exploits sometimes the videos. I'm thinking a couple of years ago Amani baits. 75 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.519 I don't know, did he make fifty in a row or something? Golkie 76 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:30.040 in practice? What kind of what kind of exhibition have you seen? Just 77 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.920 you know, we saw it in the game, but proficient just lighting it 78 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.639 up when he's just standing out there. What can you tell us there? 79 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.639 Oh? Yeah, he I mean he had the day the day before the 80 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.319 North Carolina State game. In front of the CBS cameras were at our practice. 81 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.040 He made like seventeen in a row, and then he threw he threw 82 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.560 in the length of the court and it went in. You know, I 83 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:57.439 mean you you see him do that often. I mean that all the great 84 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.680 shooters I've coached can do that. You know. I've been bus that goes 85 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.560 a lot of great shooters over my time. And you get them in a 86 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:09.079 workout by themselves, just you know, spot shooting and passing it to them 87 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.639 out, you'll see them make you know, eighty to eighty five out of 88 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:16.399 one hundred once they get that rhythm going bang and bang in. The difference 89 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:21.720 between Goki and a lot of players is his Goki was better on the run 90 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:28.439 than he was as a spot up shooter. He went to the three point 91 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.399 shooting contest at the Final four, and I knew he wouldn't have much of 92 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.480 a chance at that because you know, you've got to reach on a rack, 93 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.000 pull a ball and shoot reach on her, and that's not who he 94 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:40.519 is. He's If you put little chairs out there and made all those shooters 95 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.519 run around those chairs, hit him with a passing shooter, he'd have won 96 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.759 that. Going away. It's like Vinnie Johnson back to the day he played 97 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.639 for the Pistons. You get him a wide open shot. He's not hitting 98 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:53.360 that, but you get a couple in the row. You guys draped all 99 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.120 over him. There is something You'd rather have a guy like that than somebody 100 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.279 that you need to have wide open now. So I like that part, 101 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:04.800 you know that go ahead. I'd like to have both. Well, you 102 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:10.120 know, you play a game of a lifetime. Golkie did, certainly your 103 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.839 team. And then the thing that was impressive that everybody saw is that afterwards, 104 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.000 Yeah, you guys had your once shining moment, but you were ready. 105 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.079 You guys are ready for the second round. That had to that had 106 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:24.720 to impress you. You had to know your group. But you guys sound 107 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.279 like, uh, yeah, you know, we're going to enjoy this for 108 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.480 a couple of minutes and then you know we're on the NC state. That 109 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:35.560 was that was pretty sweet. Yeah, And I think that we were playing 110 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:41.240 and I don't know if we could play at that level, you know, 111 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.120 for four or five weeks, but we were at that time of the year. 112 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.879 We were playing at a level that there were only two teams in the 113 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.959 country. I didn't think we could be, and that was Purdue and Yukon 114 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.839 the two teams that got to the final I thought we could beat anybody in 115 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:55.680 the country, and I think we showed that. I mean, you know, 116 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.079 MC State went to the final four and we you know, we had 117 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.720 the ball with ten seconds to go to beat him, and we didn't get 118 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.839 a shot of them. But I just felt that the level we were playing, 119 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.360 you know, I have really good players and Counseling and Golki and Latin 120 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.600 in Conway and DQ Cole Rocket Watts. I mean, I had seven or 121 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:20.639 eight high level players and we were playing at it at that level and it 122 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:22.920 was a lot of fun. It was great for our fans, and you 123 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.800 know, I think we showed that the country that you know, you can 124 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.799 play great basketball at the mid major level. You should have seen the party 125 00:08:31.840 --> 00:08:35.759 that I was at. It was a bunch of Michigan and Michigan State fans, 126 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.840 but everybody's an Oakland fan. When you draw n C State, they're 127 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:45.120 an eleven seed. But everybody's talking about oh DJ Burns and you know he's 128 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.799 also Both n C State and Burns were what the tournament was all about. 129 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.200 But you know, you had Golkie in Game one, but Trey Townsend had 130 00:08:52.320 --> 00:09:00.639 thirty. What a player he is. Do you have any more former player 131 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.360 or families that played basketball at OU that had some kids in the pipeline there, 132 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:11.879 Greg, Yeah, I actually do so good. I kid name John 133 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.440 Champaigne that his son is that Uh well, I can't say, oh, 134 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.080 that would be that would be illegal recruiting. So yes, I have a 135 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.159 former player who's got a son that's one of the top ranked players in the 136 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:28.200 STATA in Michigan this year that you know, we'll see what happens with him. 137 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.919 And then there's a guy that played for me whose kid in Illinois is 138 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:39.080 one of the top Illinois players. So I'm hoping that maybe that Towns didn't 139 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.399 think, can you know, turn into another couple of those guys. Yeah, 140 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:45.480 tell me a little bit about Townsend. You know, he had thirty 141 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.799 in that game. He was spectacular, and you know he's heading to a 142 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.360 z Arizona as a transfer. But he reminded me I said this. I 143 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.960 didn't have a lot of people saying, oh, you know, great comparison, 144 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.039 great comp or anything else, but I could heard him to a former 145 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:07.399 Piston in a great score in the NBA and Adrian Dantley in that you it's 146 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.960 a team game, but you could just throw in the ball really anywhere, 147 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.480 you could with a d out on the floor, Greig and he could just 148 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.039 take you and it was an instant offense. He kind of posted the jump 149 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:22.440 from anywhere. Tell me about Townshend and his game and what you liked about 150 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.639 him. We all saw him against NC State. It was awesome. We 151 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.399 had a great year. I mean, he was the player of the year 152 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.639 in our conference, in the conference tournament, finally at thirty eight without making 153 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.960 a three. Now in the NC State game, he made a couple of 154 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.720 threes to get his thirty. But in the in the championship game when we 155 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.360 needed him, he got his butt down by the basket and just dominated. 156 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.519 And he's a guy that you know, we isolated him a lot on the 157 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.320 elbow, So I think it's a pretty good comparison. We isolated him a 158 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.279 lot on the elbow one on one, and he you know, obviously by 159 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.240 the fact that he did those things, you know, he could take probably 160 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:09.960 anybody off the dribbles from fifteen twenty feet. What people because of Golkie, 161 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:15.080 What people don't really realize is the second half of the Kentucky he ended up 162 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.519 with. He had a bad free throw shooting night, which was unusual for 163 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.480 him, but he ended up I think was seventeen and twelve in Kentucky, 164 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.039 and they all came in the second half. I think he had two at 165 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.399 halftime, and so when the game had to be won, you know, 166 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.720 Golkie put us in a position that want and portray. You know, he 167 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.480 made some big free throws and he made some huge, huge post baskets against 168 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.600 Kentucky, had three seven footers and down the stretch of that game and we 169 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:46.600 were protecting that lead, we isolated him at the elbow and he you know, 170 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:48.799 he really kind of won the game for us by you know, making 171 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.559 a huge basket after huge basket. So he can play. You know, 172 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.759 his chances of playing in the NBA are all going to be determined by how 173 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.720 his perimeter game improves. And he graduated from Oakland. He was with US 174 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:09.519 for four years, and you know, he's got that COVID year and he 175 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.759 decided to transfer and go to Arizona because you know, they paid him a 176 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.159 lot of money, a lot more money than I could pay him. So 177 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.879 he ended up going there for that last year, and I hope that he 178 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:26.240 can develop that outside shot because hell of a player. It sounded illegally you're 179 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:30.279 saying that, but of course it's not. Over the last couple of years, 180 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:35.559 Greg camp be with us. You were addressing what a Business seminar a 181 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.639 couple of days ago, and the question was one you probably get a lot. 182 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.720 What's the difference between you know, you've been at Oakland you for forty 183 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.679 years, what's the difference between the players from twenty years ago from now? 184 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.919 And you had You had a great line there, Greg, deliver it to 185 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:56.120 the State of Michigan. It was fine because some people, some people got 186 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.240 ripped me at you know, started ripping me on Twitter over the line. 187 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.279 And I didn't judge it. I didn't. I didn't say it was good 188 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.240 or bad, you know, I just said this is the facts. And 189 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.480 what I said is twenty years ago, if you ask a kid to jump, 190 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.799 he would say how high? Ten years ago, if you ask him 191 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.960 to jump, he'd say why. Now, if you ask a kid to 192 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.159 jump, he's going to say, well, how much are you going to 193 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.159 pay me? And it's true, it really is. It's just the evolution, 194 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.279 you know, they asked me. You know, people are saying, 195 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.960 well, I shouldn't they And I'm not arguing the question. You know, 196 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.559 I'm I've been a proponent for the NIL. I've been someone that believed the 197 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.799 players. I mean, Jack Golkie is what the NIL was supposed to be. 198 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.919 Here's a guy that nobody ever heard of. He doesn't look like a 199 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.639 player. He goes out there and has the game of his life in front 200 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.440 of eight million people on TV, and he ends up making hundreds of thousands 201 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.159 of dollars in NIL opportunities. Turbo tax got him, you know, because 202 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.960 he's going to be an accountant. Right So Turbo Texas, you know, 203 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:01.559 does commercials with them. He's you know, he's signing autographs, he's taken 204 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:07.000 pictures, he's you know, he's uh doing commercials for a bunch of different 205 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.759 things. That's what the NIL is supposed to be, not hey for play. 206 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.440 You know. I I but I'm not. I'm not. I didn't 207 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.639 in any way, shape or form. That statement wasn't saying this shouldn't be 208 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.799 happening. It was just this is the way life has changed, and this 209 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.279 is what we're in now, and and uh, you know, we have 210 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:31.399 to accept it and figure it out camp. He should be a fun year 211 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.840 at oh U, certainly for the the opener and then all season long. 212 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.799 I would imagine people are already like getting over to the arena. We go. 213 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:39.360 They got you for a minute or two more. I want to take 214 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:45.279 you back to the US Amateur over there at Oakland Hills. I don't know. 215 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.759 People probably asked you about Charlie Woods. Do you think is Woods? 216 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:50.799 Is he going to be? Is he going to be somebody that's going to 217 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.039 be a factor on the in the on the PGA. Would you bet against 218 00:14:54.120 --> 00:15:01.759 that? No? I would not bet against him. People got to remember 219 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.279 this. He did not play well. Okay, I watched him in his 220 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.360 practice round, and boy, he can strike the ball. He can really 221 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:16.279 strike the ball. But you know, he's only fifteen, and he's physically 222 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:22.120 going to get bigger and stronger, and he is really good. Now is 223 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.279 he that good? I don't know. You know, I think people came 224 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.399 away from the weekend saying, oh my god, it's you know, he's 225 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.600 not gonna you know, he's only there because Tigers is Tiger's kid. But 226 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:37.000 no, he wasn't he qualified to be there. I mean, he shot 227 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.559 sixty something to get there, and at fifteen years old, think about that, 228 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.519 you know, I mean, he's got a lot of pressure on him. 229 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:52.000 The most of the people that played in the in the US Junior M 230 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.039 had very small crowds walking around him. He had six hundred, eight hundred 231 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.759 people on every hole following them around. Tiger was there, Yeah, Tiger 232 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.480 was there. That that you know, it has to put pressure on you 233 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:11.279 too. So yeah, I mean, can he could he be a guy 234 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.799 on a PGA tour someday? Absolutely? Is it a sure slam dunk? 235 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:21.440 No, No, it's not. But and then again, I'm missing evaluated 236 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.879 basketball players now and then, so I'm not sure I'm really qualified to wait 237 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.480 a fifteen year old golfer. I know he's a hell of a lot better 238 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.600 than I am. You know, I wanted to ask you about another He's 239 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:37.679 a baseball player, obviously, but you know, el kayline, I remember 240 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.799 eighteen years ago, it'd be around the batting cages or the dugout and people 241 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:42.879 would always say, you know, the hell, hey, how you hitting 242 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.240 them? And you know, I say, well, my back, it 243 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.480 wasn't for my back, I'd be hitting a lot better. Did you ever 244 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:53.519 see Kayline out on the on the course there at Oakland Hills. Was was 245 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:59.480 he something to behold or is he just a regular guy out there that happened 246 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:00.919 to be one of of the you know, greatest baseball players. What can 247 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.960 you tell me about mister Tiger? Yeah, well, I was very fortunate 248 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.279 because growing up he was my hero. I mean I wanted to be bat 249 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:14.599 Man and everything I did had a six on it. And I was very 250 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.279 fortunate to get to know him, and he was We were talking about him 251 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.359 the other day on the golf course. I don't know if I ever met 252 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.079 a celebrity of his stature that was as nice a person as al Kale. 253 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.119 And I played a lot of golf with him. He was a really good 254 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.079 golfer too, He really was. I mean he was. He could shoot 255 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.880 his age all until the end of his life. He could go out there 256 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:42.559 and you know, he could knock it down the puttage hit it. You 257 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:47.119 know, he lost his distance like most people do. But when he was 258 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.000 seventy seven, he could shoot seventy seven. You know, when he was 259 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:55.000 eighty two he could shoot eighty two. He was but more importantly, Dennis, 260 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:56.559 he was just salt of the earth Man. He was as good a 261 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:03.160 person as I ever met. I love it. Great story. Hey Greg, 262 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.359 thanks so much for getting up early with us this morning here on EXUS 263 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.000 and Bros. Great tournament. You guys were what it was all about and 264 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.680 continued success. Love watching you there at OH You and hope I can watch 265 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.920 you again. An attorney, that's our goal. It's hard to get back 266 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.960 at our level, that is the goal, so we're going to do everything 267 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:26.000 we can to try. Have a great morning, Greg, thanks for having 268 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:26.440 me on. Dennis, good talking to you.