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This it's the two seventeen Recovery podcast
with Corey Winfield. Hello, please listen

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to this important message. Your student
loan has been flat for forgiveness. We

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are able to remove your payments today. I'm gonna need your number, lady.

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I really do need that number.
It's the sixteenth of June twenty twenty

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three. My name is Corey Winfield
and this is the two seventeen Recovery Podcasts

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from the North Studio yet again and
special guest Mitchell in the studio joining me.

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Mitchell, how are you doing,
man? I'm student loan free.

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What feels fabulous? Yeah. See, they give you money and they're like

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go to school and you're like okay. Marnie is always like I'm just like,

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you know, you gotta pay that
back. And I'm like, well

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do you do you? Somebody was
tell me all about it yesterday. I'm

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like, well, if you don't
then it might have been Jeremy, it

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might have been Norm. It was
Norm. And he's like, yeah,

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but if you don't pay that back, then other people they're going to increase

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the tuition because blah blah blah.
And I'm like, oh, hold on,

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Norm, I did I tell must
I hold on. You know how

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I tell them my stories. It
happens just like I say them. So

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I said, hold up, Norm, I was like, just calm down

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a little bit. I added some
cuss words in there. I was like,

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so just shut Norm. He's like, all right, bro, I

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get it. But no, no, he said that you have to pay

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them back and I said, no, the you do. And so then

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we go into this whole debate and
I was like, look, man,

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it's it's a school. First of
all, college is a business. It's

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a business. They make moneys,
okay. And then there this one guy

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was trying to tell me about how
he didn't do bad things to people because

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of the age difference. It was
because back in the day, women used

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to get married off at twelve.
That's pretty g d young, my opinion.

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We said, back in the day, they used to do that,

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they marry them off. But then
when schools started becoming a business, they

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started realizing, wait, look,
we need to keep these kids in school.

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Then they need to go to college, and then we could get funded

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from the state and be like me
and you going, hey, let's start

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a business. I'm really bad at
analogy, so just stay with me.

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Where we kill spiders. Okay,
many kill spiders, that's our business.

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They are several, always lurking.
You eat them and you don't even know

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it because it's had a personal experience
listening right now, it's crazy that I'm

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gonna start a business with you,
that we're killing spiders. Okay, and

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then so what I do is I
go around and this is already I'm not

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sure how I'm going to connect us
together. It's like the school thing.

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It's not it's not funny. You're
like, go for it. It's a

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hot shot, go for it,
go for it. I think I can

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see it though, I can see
the bridge. You go around and you

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kill people's spiders, and then you
charge them for it, but they never

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pay for it. So to make
it a living, you have to pay

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it. You have to charge the
people who do pay for it more.

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That's what norm saying. It's kind
of hard trying to find a like a

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nineteen twenty year old what are you
talking about? I'm so confused right now,

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I'll have to get all up in
it. Oh self explanatory. The

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drops that you have, they're confusing
me sometimes, all right, so no,

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not the way you lay them out
well, here's what we do.

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We go around and we tell people
about how the spiders are bad and you

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eat them at night. Then we
go to the government and be like,

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look, man, this will be
a much better society if people will stop

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eating spiders because it gives you diarrhea. And then when you're at diarrhea,

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you can't work, which people when
they work, they give you money,

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right mister government, and they go, man, we need to get rythm

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spiders like, well, that's us
man, send us in. So we

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start getting money from the government because
people can't just hire an exterminator because these

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are spiders, deadly spiders that cause
diarrhea, so you don't you want f

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ron with those. So people don't
have the money because it's so expensive to

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get rid of them. But man, you really need it if you want

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to go to work and not get
fired because you got diarrhea every day,

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so you're gonna have to get them
done. So in order to get it

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done, you take out a loan
from the government and you pay Mitch and

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Corey spider diarrhea killer service and then
we get money. That's what's ups son.

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I need this to work out for
us too, because on the edge

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of losing my job because of bathroom
related incidents. Yeah, so I'll have

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to get all up in it to
do. But that's that's pretty much how

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it kind of worked, or is
working with the schools and the kids and

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they're like, oh, you gotta
have this job now. I did tell

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Norm. I said, be careful
because when you go to school again,

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because he's enrolled. If anybody wants
to know Norm's life, just listen to

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this podcast. I will break it
down for you. But no, it

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happens to me too. Norm.
It's okay, but he's going back back

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to school for him. School proved
it, Daddy. I'm not a fool.

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Just don't any kids. They give
you diarrhea. I think that's where

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this is going. No, it's
not even going there. I'm just saying,

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man, be careful because when I
went back, I had this big

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ass computer and I did tell him
this, and it's for like editing video

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and audio, so you fired up. It's like like jet plane taken off

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and I go in there and these
little pluck ass kids nineteen year old,

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eighteen year old's got this whatever.
It's a little slim little notebook or whatever

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they call them just in. My
freaking computer is about to fly out my

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desk and they're all looking at me
like I'm stupid, you know, yeah,

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it's like and they're just like,
okay, old man, is that

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what we used to make coffee in
the break room? It sounds like it.

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No, we have this repurpose your
old computer for the coffee. We

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have a bun machine at the two
seventeen Recovery Center. It's a bun but

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every so often it needs to heat
them elements, so it's like Joe NASA

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countdown. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's a pretty badass. At least

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we have one of those. That's
what I'm saying. But back to my

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story here for I get interrupted,
is that them kids, man, that

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they can be a little ruthless,
but they can dish it, but they

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can't take it. That's why I
found when I was going back to school,

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because it's one kid. I was
like, you started like laughing at

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my computer taking off. So I
walked over to his little notebook thing and

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I flipped it up. That landed
on the floor and I stepped on it.

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That was really insensitive of you.
Fabulous, thank you, Justin,

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And I said don't laugh at my
I said, don't laugh at my computer

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again. Boy. I went and
sat down. I said, that's what's

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up. I turned my computer off
and turn it back on just so I

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could start up again. And he
probably won't have been able to even flip

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your computer over. Nah, he
mean I made sure he wasn't like a

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very strong kid. I wasn't gonna
I wasn't mess with the other kids that

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were How did you do that?
Like years of preparation. Every time he

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was like, hey, we should
go to the gym, You're like,

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no, no, let'sen I do
that. And then a couple of years

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later you met him again. Oh
no, that everybody in that class was

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laughing at me. I just went
to the weakest kid. That's why I

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do. He was bully people.
Yeah, so that's what I did.

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Sort of didn't happen that way,
but I told norm be prepared. If

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you're gonna get a computer, they
have them that you can loan out that

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they loan out usually, and you
know, just watch out, man.

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But the stuff that you will see
happening will blow your mind. The things

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that happened blew my mind. I
was in a class that I didn't even

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open a book for and it was
called politics Government. You were talking about

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this politics. Didn't know I got
an A in that class. Marnie will

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back me up on this. And
she was just like, I can't believe

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that you did that. I can't
believe you got an A. And I

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say, well, it's not that
hard. And then there was another class.

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I said, watch this, honey. This is this paper she wants

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written, is about this, this
and this, and she's like, yeah,

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I said, I'm not writing about
that. I don't feel like that

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today. I'm gonna write about this. She said, honey, that's not

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anything to do with that. I
said, I know, but watch bang

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it out. Meet the minimum requirement
of course for the words get graded and

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it's a bee. And instructor writes, well, that has nothing to do

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with the topic, but um,
yeah, good job participation points man,

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Like you turn it in you will
get it and then asked me how I

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failed art class. I don't know, man, it wasn't in person,

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and it was really hard. I
told him, don't mess with art man.

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Yeah, it was like, read
this book and tell me what kind

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of paint brush leaves this texture?
H stuff. That one the blue talk

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about paint brushes and textures that this
thing. The day we were just talking

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about. Um, Adobe photoshop,
that's what. I don't know why I

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lost that, but um, I
heard they have a they have a glue

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brush, so it looks like glue. Now, I've been to a couple

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different websites on the internet before,
two or three, a couple of different

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ones. Um, they don't use
that for glue. They don't. They

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don't use that for clue. There's
all kinds of Pruss issue. You can

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get like a little packs and buy
all kinds of stuff in there, but

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you can actually do something that looks
just like a painting. I know,

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I'm just saying, like the strange, but it's supposed to look like if

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you were the dump clue out on
something. You're not following me so and

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I was just like, yeah,
that's not that's not what they're using for

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append to those websites. See that
animation. It's not clue nothing. Just

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let me know when you're Oh,
Jim, you want me, dude,

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I'm so sorry. Man, I
was supposed to be nice to you.

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Taylor. There we go. Damn, dude, I get it. That's

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freaking hilarious. Every time you feel
it's really easy to just start right over,

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pick it right up where your left
off. That's awesome. That's killer

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joke, dude, that's killer.
I promised that. When I got out

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of the car today, I looked
at money and said, I'm gonna be

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nice to match today. That's my
goal because Sad yesterday she said she'd be

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listening, not to the part.
I didn't even know how hard my job

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was gonna be today with that goal, I didn't know I was gonna do

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be a podcast with you. I
don't make it easy on you. I

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walked right into some pretty easy situations. So it's just one of those things

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where hey, man, I can
and now you're telling me stories about how

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you're just naturally a bully. I
thought you like tried. No, I'm

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just kidding. I'm not a big
fan of bullies. Yeah. Actually,

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in high school there was this kid
and just share a story with you,

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and they call them pat, which
is very disrespectful because they were saying that

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they didn't know he's a boy or
girl. Very disrespectful. Your name is

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Kevin, But anyway, he would
wear sweatpants every day. Is this a

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glow? Up story, no glow
up story, like an ugly duckling.

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I don't I don't know. No, he just wear sweappants every day.

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He was a bigger kid, and
he can't smell like sour milk a little

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bit. But he sat next to
me in drafting class and I would talk

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to him, like, what's up, Kevin, And he was so guarded

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that he thought that anybody that would
talk to him was just ready to pounce

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on him, you know, like, Hi, Kevin, punch him in

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the face. You know, I'm
just saying like, but he was guarded

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so like he wouldn't really trust you. And so then at lunch, I

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think it was a junior we friend
Danny and I we'd see him like sitting

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by himself, and Danny was in
the drafting class too, and I don't

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know, we just started instead of
just going to the empty table like next

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to Kevin, we started just sitting
next to Kevin. And then at first

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though he just thought, Oh,
what are these guys doing coming over here?

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They're going to draw attention to me. I don't want that. And

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but eventually I think he was kind
of like, okay, cool, Like

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these dudes like they want to talk
to me, and like by the end

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of the year or whatever, graduated, like I could walk down to Hobble

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like, what's up, Keviny,
like hey Corey. You know, but

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people would make fun of them,
pick on him and stuff. But yeah,

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I didn't. We didn't really like
that. But I mean, I

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guess I probably did earlier than that, when the peer pressure was kind of

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get me, and I just you
know, didn't want them to make fun

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of me, so I wouldn't make
fun of other people. So I probably

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did bully people, but not like
bully people that just bad jokes. Yeah

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you know about that. Have you
Have you seen a Nature documentary of like

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seeing them? Yeah, African Savannah, No, like where the lions live

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in the Zebras, probably, yeah
something. There's always that rhino that's not

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getting messed with, like off in
the corner with like this bird that sits

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on his back. So that was
me and my best friend in high school,

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middle school. Everybody messed with my
little friend he got at the business.

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It only happened like once or twice, but that was it. And

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I was like, I didn't like
to fight or anything. I've only been

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in a couple of fights in my
entire life. But yeah, but you

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foke up a car or wait,
I'm so confused right now. I don't

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even understand that. But um no, I just always had a little I'm

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a big dude. I always had
little friends. I have to get all

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up in it and somebody mess with
them. You would, yeah, grow

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up in that face. Face.
It's been kind of hard trying to find

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a like a nineteen twenty year old. How do you I don't even remember

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saying, I don't even know what's
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that's what do you think about that? Because my mom listens to everyone.

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She didn't for a while when I
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like that. You can do that. Yeah, and now she's probably like,

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core you don't talk about that.
Now. She might not be listening

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at this moment. Well, but
she might. I think she kind of

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learned, like you know, and
that's his Corey. He just talked the

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last smack and that is what it
is. You might have to do that

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to my mom and she doesn't shape
up. I see, we should have

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her on because now because she doesn't
have a chance to talk back. True,

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she has historically found ways to talk
back about things and get on there

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and Karen the Facebook page and some
there here. So did your mom,

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like when you were going through what
you were going through, did your mom

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play a big role in you getting
help services and all that and looking after

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you make sure you weren't dead?
Yes and no. I hate when people

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say that. Yes and no.
She played a big part in making sure

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it wasn't dead. She made played
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son was cared for when I couldn't
do that. I always thank her for

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it. But she was also an
enabler, and I think we've mentioned that

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on the podcast before, and I'm
not the only one in the family she's

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been there for, so I really
I have issues with my mom. I

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love my mom. She's a really
sweet lady. It's one of those things

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where it's it's not a perfect relationship, but like we had a podcast one

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time when I was just I wonder
what would happen if I didn't have that

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enabling in my life, and if
I would have figured it out sooner.

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I'll always kind of wonder, but
it worked out so because I wonder how

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she enabled you though, that's a
really good question. It's hard to explain,

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does she did it hurt her families? When you say that, probably

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because you're not you're not meaning it
too, You're just saying, like,

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hey, like looking back at it
this, I wouldn't have been able to

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do this. I wouldn't been able
to get that extra bottle. I wouldn't

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have been able to keep doing what
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my shit, right, And that's
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when I would lose a job,
she would make sure that I was financially

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stable, and financially stable means I
had money for booze, yeah, you

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know. And I think that she
always made sure that I was never out

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on the street, which is great
because I was able to make sure that

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my son was never out on the
street. But at the same time,

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I feel like if things were different
and maybe I didn't have my son and

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my addiction brought me to where I
was going to be out on the street,

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I might have found the motivation to
do something about it soon. Yeah,

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I hit that rock bottom sooner.
Yeah, instead of having a becaush

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family pillow, which is lucky,
you know, it's it is, and

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I'm glad it worked. Out there
it because, like I said, my

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son's up involved and my mom was
really big and making sure that that all

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stayed together. And I'll always appreciate
her for that. But she must worked

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a lot of hours then, No, I mean not really, because I

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never see her at the family meeting
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Oh, I'm kind of hard trying
to find a like a nineteen I'm talking

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about. Can I find one of
those at the family meeting? I don't

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think so. But no, I
don't think so. Um, yeah,

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it's funny, that's why she wants
to go. It might be at the

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next one. I was talking to
her about it recently. Um, so

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it's funny that you bring that out. And now it sucks because now I'm

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gonna think that me calling her out
is the reason she's going to come or

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join on zoom. Well, she's
ever gonna say something about it if you're

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here. Yeah, but like,
okay, it's good I had to call

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you out. Cool. No,
And my mom hasn't been on one either.

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It's fine. Marnie's mother has and
Martie's actually going to be talking at

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the next family the family peer support
meeting, which is That's what I heard

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and Monday at five thirty. That
was why I thought it was cool that

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my mom's gonna try to be there, because then give me Martie's mom.

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And yeah, they didn't want us
to talk about it or motive or whatever.

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But if you have our two seventeen
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just any meeting and click it and
it'll take you to the room that we're

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gonna be in. So and I
love to ask if we think that any

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of the people involved that with that
meeting will listen. They don't. They

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don't. And that's the beauty of
the podcast that nobody listens to is you

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can say whatever you want. Some
people shout out to Iowa and Idaho.

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I have some fans in de GANI. I don't know who they are.

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The blog it Rhode Island. What's
up Rhode Island? I got a listener

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in Rhode Island. It looks like
it's not an island. H Maryland.

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What's up New York City? You
know New York City's listening in their recovery

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in New York City. That would
be crazy. I wonder if it's as

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crazy as LA. I think it's
different I've never been to either. Like

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LA was more again here's me.
Here we go ripping on LA. I'm

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not talking about the puppy stuff,
but the first meeting, I don't want

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to go there. It's one of
my favorite things to poke actually about.

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It was it was my first meeting
ever, and no one told me,

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hey, this is how it works, this is this is it. But

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so when it was a speaker meeting
and I was, no one told me,

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hey, this is something that they
do on these days or whenever.

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So I go there thinking, okay, this is AA and it's like okay.

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So we go there and we listen
to my talk and he was telling

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the story like he was a director
or a writer, like he wrote this

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novel. And I'm like, man, I don't believe any of that stuff.

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And it was like he left a
cliffhanger because they break in the middle

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of it. And he's like,
and then my kid walked in and the

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gun was on the table and it
didn't have a safety on it. All

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right, let's break for about twenty
minutes, get some coffee, and we'll

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be back here, all right,
bro. I was like, you know,

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I gotta come back in. I
got here the rest of this idiot.

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And then we went to another one
and it was a speaker me again,

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you tell me. So we go
there and this chick's up there and

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I didn't even want to go in. I'm like, nah, I've had

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enough. This isn't for me.
And they're like, no, you gotta

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come to this one too. So
I go in and this chick's talking and

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she's just trauma queening it up about
oh my god, I did this and

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I smoked weed. And I'm like, all right, something else, oh

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sh ever get by. But anyway, so it's her story. So she's

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just telling it and she gets done
and people like stand up and they're clapping,

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you know, and and she's like
questions. I'm like, oh,

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okay, here we go. And
the lady stands up. She's like,

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you know, i gotta say,
this is the eighth time I've seen you.

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It gets better each time. Thank
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wait, is this Leonard skinnerd We're
seeing? Like what is going on?

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Like this is stupid. Then THETT
guy said pretty much the same thing.

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He stead. I was like,
man, I love seeing you. You

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know, I hear you're speaking.
I come out and man, your story

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gets crazier and crazier. I'm like, well, because she's adding to it,

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you know, like, of course
it is. That's why she didn't

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tell you about the acid she did
in the van, you know, because

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it made all the whole creepy duck
chasing her until the ocean even even crazier

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or whatever it was. I don't
even think it was that cool. It

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was like that stuff in my toe, and I realized I didn't want a

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trip on acid and more. And
I'm like tripping and being an asked ortubent

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things woman. It's blond, and
then nothing against blonds. I'm just saying

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it was ridiculous. I was like, look, I'm I'm cool on some

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AA. And then my cousin took
me to an AA meeting like after I

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got home, like year or two
later, and he was telling me because

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I was trying to explain to him
why I don't do AA, and he's

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like, dude, like those are
speaker meetings. That's not even the same

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as what an AA meeting is.
I was like, okay, So they

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took me to one and I'm like, oh, this is an A.

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Yeah, this is way different than
than those in California where I was listening

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to like Future Storytellers or whatever,
like, yeah, anyway, what's up

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in New York. I don't know
if your meetings are like that or not.

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Probably some I feel like they have
really big pizzas. It's my point

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of that their meetings just a slice. Taxi drivers. So you've been listening

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to I've been tasking you with episodes
on the podcast. Listened to, Oh

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you were going there, and I
asked you listen to one called Accents Detroit

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Bust Stop. It was like two
different titles, and that was it didn't

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let Time, and I had both
of those in it. Yeah, and

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we started it and I had listened
to that one for just a minute as

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I was driving to help. My
buddy Scott started his podcast and I was

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laughing my ass off, like the
first seven, eight, nine, ten

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minutes or whatever. We're doing these
accents and Ryan Beckman was so ridiculous trying

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to do a French guy and like
his it didn't matter what accent he did.

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He couldn't even get close, like
you could tell him to an English

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accent, you know, like talk
American. He'd be like, oh bird

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would like he would screw that up, like he could not do accents,

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that's why we'd like to do them. And then Chris so his was deteriorating

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worse and worse, and and I
go, this is turning to sound like

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Ozzy Osborne. And then he goes
shit, and I'm like, at least

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he acknowledged that. Yeah, he's
Chris is funny dude man, Like I

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miss him. I miss him being
on the podcast sometimes and just hanging out

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with him. He was a very
funny guy man and just going places.

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He lost a bet to me one
time, and like that's the thing that

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him and Ryan will lose best to
me all the time. And then they

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were like, how did we even
get into this bet? Like he lost

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a Super Bowl bet? Chris did, and He's like, I don't even

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watch football, how why what happened? I've been on a football game and

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I don't even care. I don't
even watch it. This is stupid.

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As soon as somebody says bet around
me, I'm just like no, no,

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I mean, I can see the
twinkle in your eye going I can't

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wait to trick him into a bet. But if somebody says bet, I'm

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like, yeah, nope, I'm
good. I'm not about that. Yeah,

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because Ryan, he was like Green
Bay's Golden super Bowl aside at you,

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they won't and if they didn't,
he had to dye his hair.

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He had dark Harry, but he
had to dye it blonde. And he

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had to do his facial hair too, which punk ass. He shaved all

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of his facial hair before. I
was like, you can't do that,

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that's wrong, but he walked around
gold hair. He didn't do it right,

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so it looks stupid, but whatever. He gets in a Packers fan.

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And then Chris been on the Super
Bowl with Ryan. I'm not even

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in these bets. This is the
beautiful part of it. So Ryan had

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a bet about something and it was
the Super Bowl that Mahomes came back and

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they beat San Francisco and through it
and Chris was just like all beside himself.

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But his original thing was he had
to go to the police station in

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Boyne City and ask where was their
bus stop with gold paint around his face

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like he'd been huffing, and yeah, I was gonna record it the bushes

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and Chris was like, no,
man, they're gonna arrest me. I'm

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not doing it. They're gonna arrest
me and like, Chris, you have

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to and he was about to,
and then his therapist call him. He

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was like, do not do that. You guys would have the greatest TikTok

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ever. Do not make him do
that. I was like, why he

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lost the bet and she's like,
no, that's not what you need to

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do, and so okay, So
we changed it up and I made him

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wear a helmet. I heard something
about the helmet. I remember that,

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yeah, And we have put stickers
on it and all kinds of stuff.

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And he used to say, bullshit, ain't nothing or something like that.

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So I put that on and and
I had some two seventeen stickers and it

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was like it was a baseball helmet, like a little batter's helmet. It

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was really small, and I think
gossed out or something to see. He

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was trying to get that as a
saying like, oh man, you gossed

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out. But that was on there. And so he had to wear that

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to like five meetings or something the
whole time into a meeting. So he

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wore I know he watched to Charlotte. I don't remember if we It seems

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like he worked to Point City once, but then COVID happened and shot us

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down. But that was pretty funny
because people just looking at him, like,

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why is that dude wearing a base
muhammet in here? It makes me

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realize that my days of stopping around
the boy City area we're before yours,

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which is weird. Yeah, twenty
nineteen, twenty twenty mine was mine ended

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in twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen years was before mine. It's

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a little bit. Yeah, you
would have You probably would have lost your

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shit if you would have showed him
to two meeting I saw us. You'd

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have been like, not coming back
to one of those anymore. Oh I

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wasn't an alcoholic yet. Oh yeah, I mean it was, but you

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know, if you would have asked
me, I would like, oh yeah,

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that would have been interesting to see
if when you got into recovery,

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if you would have went to a
meeting, or if if Justin would have

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went to a meeting, what they
would have thought it would have been interesting?

409
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.839
Like Adam, he got a chance
to see that firsthand. I was

410
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.720
in treatment with him. Adam works
or two seventeen recovery and just let you

411
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.240
know that maybe it's ways so reserved
he's recovery totally for free that you're gonna

412
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.319
make him jump out, And he's
like, if I stay back here,

413
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.839
moving that far as only this,
but if I come out this far,

414
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.680
then moving that far as that.
Well. I I get saying I got

415
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.759
to work, and I walk and
you guys are all having fun, laughing.

416
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.839
Then I come in and it's like, scatter, but you didn't.

417
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.119
But I was like, okay,
guys, like the fun ended already,

418
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:38.319
Like you don't, I know,
you don't throw scary boss vibes until you're

419
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.200
angry. Like I don't want to
say angry, I would say when I

420
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.279
don't understand something, I'm frustrated.
Yeah, I'm frustrated and I ask questions.

421
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.359
I'm like, so, if we're
gonna do this, you didn't do

422
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.559
that's me. And I was like
I had to dodge a couple of times

423
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:03.400
because I'm like, you're asking me
questions, dodging a bullet about something that

424
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.640
I wasn't actually a part of.
I love it, and you're like,

425
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.359
why does it? And like like
I was there, I was like I

426
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:17.200
was a spectator for a very small
part of that situation. Actually should be

427
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.559
getting panted on background, stay the
trash out vacuum in yeah, you know,

428
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:29.000
like, nope, I can't babysit
people man cross hairs on men.

429
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:34.079
No, I don't get angry.
I just ask questions, Just ask them

430
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:41.720
asking question. Why is the toilet
paper on the floor because it fell out

431
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.559
of somebody's pants? I don't know. Did you find that too? M

432
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.839
hm oh, because I found that
before and I've cleaned it up and I'm

433
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.279
like, wait a minute, who's
the toilet paper dropper? Do you like

434
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.240
it? When I come out and
I'm like, who shit is on the

435
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.359
toilet and you're like, well,
don't have a DNA kit for that?

436
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.920
Man, I'm not sure. Today
I was like, well I was.

437
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:11.079
I don't know. Wasn't there yesterday? I wasn't there yesterday. Some hard

438
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.759
hitting questions. But when he said
that today, I was like, it's

439
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.079
been like, oh, time for
me to clean the twist, clean,

440
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:25.720
the clean the bathroom. It's time. So they didn't have much to say

441
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.440
about it. Yes, we can
do for Marnie. Yeah, she's got

442
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.160
to put up with all of us
here. There's gloves, and there are

443
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.799
gloves. There was a another thing
I wanted about to go back to the

444
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.480
episodes of the podcast because Tyrone,
that was the first time where I started

445
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.599
playing those drops, and I think
you heard Chris like laughing hysterically because those

446
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:51.079
are the first times he was hearing
him. Because Chris and Tyrone were having

447
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:56.160
a conversation and I was testing out
a microphone and I was like just trucked

448
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.759
it over that to them, and
Tyrone just starts talking about how they had

449
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.400
to go to this meeting and they
had to walk across town and this an

450
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.279
xt. They didn't have vehicles and
there was no bus there and time Aroon

451
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.720
was just he couldn't believe that point
cit he didn't have a bus and so

452
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.720
when he was like, man,
well, Lisa Detroit, we got bus

453
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:19.160
stops, and that's when he did
the first man she you know. And

454
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.240
so that was like the first time
we'd ever I'd ever played those on the

455
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.680
podcast during that episode, and we
used to walk around but ned Kris.

456
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.039
Kris didn't even though I recorded it. So that's why he was like dying

457
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.000
last. It was funny listening because
every time he played it he laughed harder,

458
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.759
Yeah, until it was like he
couldn't even hold it together. He'd

459
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:44.039
do it again and he'd be like, there it is. It's happening again.

460
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.279
Yeah, yeah, another one.
I loved it The Dirty Man Show,

461
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.680
which was a very long episode,
and I started that and I was

462
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.119
like, only got like a thirty
minute drive. I can't really get into

463
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.599
that one. Was that like and
that's just his favorite episode? He says,

464
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.480
So it was good. I don't
know what was it about. I

465
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.119
was working while I was listening to
these, so I remember bits and pieces.

466
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:14.400
But if you asked me to write
a paper on it, that would

467
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:15.880
probably give you something that didn't have
anything to do. Did you, for

468
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.000
a b did you get something of
recovery out of it? Or was it

469
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.440
just like, hey, those guys
are having fun in recovery. I mean

470
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:30.200
there's that, So that's that.
Just get around like minded. I was

471
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.319
talking about somebody else today about it, get around like minded people and have

472
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:38.519
fun. And I've been wanting,
oh, here we go. I saw

473
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:46.119
this scientific study recently. Okay,
that's said when you're trying to change a

474
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:52.319
habit, I'll have to get all
up in it. I've been working on

475
00:33:52.359 --> 00:34:00.960
that habit for a while. It
can take two hundred or four hundred times

476
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:07.800
of intentionally doing something a different way
for you to change your habit. But

477
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:14.079
if you do it while you're having
fun, it can take as little as

478
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:19.079
twenty times of it intentionally doing it
a different way to grasp and hold onto

479
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.199
that new habit. It's been kind
of hard trying to find a like a

480
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:29.639
nineteen twenty year old that would have
done it right there. Those are some

481
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.559
good place drops, I must say. But anyway, yeah, that makes

482
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.800
sense. And the same logic goes
along with like if and I tell people

483
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.440
this whole time, if you go
to a meeting, get something out of

484
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.119
it. Man, Like, when
you leave the meeting and if you're smiling

485
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.960
and you feel good, your brain
has taken notes. And so the next

486
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.960
time when something pops up in your
head, you're first instinct is, man,

487
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.400
I need to go get drunk.
Eff it, Your first instinct is

488
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:59.280
I need to go hit a meeting. And before you know it, if

489
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.239
you keep going to meet things and
having fun and doing fun stuff like that

490
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.440
will become a thing. And then
it will happen and you were like,

491
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.000
oh my god, like I just
got in a fight with so and so,

492
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:08.599
or I just lost my job or
this or that, and the first

493
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.840
thing is not going to be I
need to go get drunk, it's gonna

494
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.079
be. I need to go to
a meeting. Yep. And that makes

495
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.360
total sense. So doing something when
you're having fun. Yeah, if you

496
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.440
don't do meetings, you can get
all up in it or look for people

497
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:30.199
a certain days. Oh at least
she didn't stay younger. Oh yeah,

498
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.320
just so. Yeah, So back
to the college thing. I don't think

499
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.800
I was even talking about people you
were. I don't know you're talking about.

500
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:44.440
You wanted to sell your fake ID. Oh you not to have a

501
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.880
fake ID? Why would I need? Yeah, they say you're in nineteen

502
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.440
or twenty, and I don't drink
the ID for anything except for getting pulled

503
00:35:52.440 --> 00:36:00.159
over. Yeah. So back to
the college thing though, and which are

504
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.119
typically nineteen to twenty year olds.
Yeah, yeah, Like I bring it

505
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:12.559
back for the original topic all the
way around bad analogy the college thing?

506
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.719
Man, Like how that how that
works though, is you know, the

507
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.360
government getting money from you and then
the one guy saying, you know,

508
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.320
like hey, they only did that
so that they could, you know,

509
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.000
take the people's money and make money
off it. And I believe that to

510
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:30.400
be true. And my point to
Norm on that whole situation was oh,

511
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.519
that's right to use here. Yeah, as way like thirty minutes agoing to

512
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.880
him on this, and I was
saying, like, look, man,

513
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.400
it's not like the school's out money. You know, if if someone signs

514
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.440
up for a class, they gets
too alone. Whatever, school's getting paid.

515
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.800
Man, they're not losing anything,
and their inventory is nothing, you

516
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.880
know, like what they're paying the
teacher regardless. So you can't be like,

517
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.679
oh, well, no, they
had to add another student every time

518
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.679
they add a student. Teachers not
making an extra grand you know, so

519
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.719
things like they're they're buying all the
knowledges and right you know at the lower

520
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.320
to dump into. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not like, oh man,

521
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.039
we just wasted twenty pieces of chicken, like damn it. Nope,

522
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:20.599
there's not that. So like there's
really no I mean, I'm not gonna

523
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.159
say there's no need to pay back. I don't know. I'm just not

524
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:29.039
in a hurry to there's there,
And people are making new ways of doing

525
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:34.480
it on colleges. Yeah, and
to pass the test without in the class,

526
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.880
not even look opening the book one
time, write in the paper,

527
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.960
not even had to do with the
topic, and get to be come on,

528
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.519
bro, it's a scam people.
Some people out there were like,

529
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.760
no, it's not, and it's
not if you don't make it a scam,

530
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.280
Like if you're actually learning and doing
your work and doing what you need

531
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.760
to do, that's great. I'm
just I'm just saying my experience with its

532
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.800
like, MS still a scam.
It's just you use that scam very well

533
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.599
because you can't pay that much money
and not be a ski right, And

534
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.920
then we'll tell them that in order
to go to a good job, that

535
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.320
don't have to do with us.
No, you know, I mean there's

536
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.400
different ways to learn things too nowadays. And I'm surprised people still go to

537
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.199
school a really a lot of people
are deciding not to. Yeah, and

538
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.239
then that hurts the bottom line.
They're like, oh, well, we'll

539
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.679
forgive that. Okay, I have
to church more because there's less people from

540
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.719
school and working at a nonprofit,
like I have to pay like the bare

541
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.760
minimum of whatever them stupid loan things
are, and then after ten years it's

542
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.199
gone. That's a long time.
Are you talking about your own? Yeah,

543
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.559
a brutal And I was like,
you'll have that paid off in ten

544
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.760
years, said the hell I will. I love getting those calls though,

545
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.199
especially the people. What's the real
people you typically get on? Well,

546
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.119
I gotta check my college account because
it just reminded me that I got a

547
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.360
letter in the mail the other day
saying I don't notice. I was like,

548
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.000
that's weird. That means they're not
gonna talk to you again. Yeah,

549
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.599
I would hold. It's a final
notice. You ow it's eight hundred

550
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.639
and forty dollars. I said,
wait, huh. My understanding of how

551
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.559
Cloud College works is you pay them
and then they let you take the classes.

552
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.760
They don't let you take the classes
if you owe them money. So

553
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.639
how the F do I owe them
one hundred and forty dollars? And why

554
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.199
the F is this my final notice? Is my first notice? And then

555
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:30.840
they're telling me you got to the
end of June to pay this, otherwise

556
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:37.360
it's gonna be eighteen hundred. I'm
like, that's some that's some bad credit

557
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:45.239
card scam and tend to collect the
debt stuff like that's people making money.

558
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.599
Though, hey man, it's really
gonna pay them. I'm dispute it because

559
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.719
how the F would I owe them
money? And I was like, yeah,

560
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.440
but you failed the art class.
I'm like me, failing a classes.

561
00:39:54.480 --> 00:40:01.480
I mean I have to pay them
back money. Trust me, that's

562
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.480
a fact. She's like, oh
no, maybe someone like no, honey,

563
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.679
like they wouldn't have let me take
the class. That's my point.

564
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.119
So and and that's that's part of
the recovery, though, is figuring these

565
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.280
things out. And if they say
I owe them the money, then I'm

566
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:19.360
gonna do my best to tell them
I don't. And then that's that's what's

567
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.000
upped and what we where we go
from there. I will keep you posted.

568
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.320
But the old meat would have just
took that final notice. I'm like,

569
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.840
oh my god, no, oh
owe them money too, Oh throw

570
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.920
it away, throw it away,
let's go get drunk. I don't have

571
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.519
it. What am I supposed to
do? I can't owe them eighteen hundred,

572
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.519
don't I don't even have five dollars? How am I gonna pay one

573
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.679
hundred and forty? The old me
would have done what I said, like

574
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.679
final notice. That means it's not
gonna contact me anymore. Cool, Get

575
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.480
in line. I want some money. Get in line. Do you want

576
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.440
some money? So do I?
Eighty people back there taking dumb bar,

577
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.880
who's gonna get it? The blog, the bogeen, how's your blog going

578
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:05.199
anyway? You're you're enjoying it,
That's what I mean. I am.

579
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.800
It's a it's been a really good
release. I'm not gonna even go there.

580
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.719
I'm not gonna make any sexual reference
to that. Um No, I've

581
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.840
really liked it. It has been
a really good way to talk about just

582
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:29.679
about anything in the actual terminology is
fleeting right now, but I've gotten to

583
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.559
talk about some really cool things but
able to get in there. And it's

584
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:38.920
just a really good I think so
because Justin wrote his blogular day too,

585
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.599
and he did the second one.
I was so proud of him, and

586
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.239
he was like, man, you
and was a great blog to graphs Long.

587
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.880
I was like, dude, good
job, man. And sometimes like

588
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.159
the brain busy, the brain stump, you know, if it's something that

589
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:58.000
you're not used to. Okay,
here's here's my take on on on people

590
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.719
and myself. I was saying about
this other day because I don't like asking

591
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.599
people for money. I'm horrible at
it. I hate it makes me fel

592
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.679
ncomfortable. I don't want to do
it or run from it. I believe

593
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:13.559
I could be good at it,
but I don't really know. How to

594
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.719
do it. I don't know.
People tell me, oh, it's not

595
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.559
about asking them for money, it's
about having them support you and be a

596
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:24.400
part of your cause. Again,
I don't know. You know, it's

597
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.880
well, you believe in yourself,
absolutely, you believe what you Yeah,

598
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.000
and they're like, we can tell
you're passionate, you know. Just I

599
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.800
don't know. I'm uncomfortable. It
makes me weird, you know. So

600
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.800
I get it. That's what makes
you weird. Yeah, it's asking for

601
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:45.400
money. Oh I thought the list
was never mind, that's it. It's

602
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:50.519
asking for money, mane So you
go crazy. But so I get it

603
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.639
where people are like in their uncomfortable
zone, you know, Like you guys,

604
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.480
you're probably more comfortable on the mic
than the other guy is. Now.

605
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.800
Maybe maybe Justin's a little bit comfortable
too. He's done a few podcasts

606
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.039
with me. But like when I
have you guys voice your promos, it's

607
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.039
something that's not natural for you guys. And when I'm like trying to give

608
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.079
you instructions, I'm like, smile, smile, you know, and you're

609
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:16.079
just looking at me like, oh
hey, man, like what is it?

610
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.199
What do you guy going on?
You got camera over there? I

611
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:27.400
don't know, but Aames Mitchell Mitchell
come to my meeting and where we kick

612
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.480
people in the testicles every Sunday or
say, you'd probably get people for that

613
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.360
though, yeah, I mean people
watch Jackats, well, yeah they do.

614
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.440
But you know, so to to
say that, you know, some

615
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:49.280
people aren't trying, you know,
it is not is not right because people

616
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.239
do try, but just because it
doesn't just take off of them. So

617
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.960
like you justin and writing blogs,
you know, and Adam you know,

618
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.360
and me, you know, I
don't write blogs every day. It was

619
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:05.159
like once a year, I think, as I thrown out there, but

620
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.800
it just it just takes time.
And do I know how to write a

621
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:12.480
blog? Yeah, why don't.
I'm more lazy. But for someone who's

622
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.480
never written one or doesn't really know
that kind of world or how to express

623
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.000
their feelings, it's gonna take them
a little time and they're gonna feel very

624
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.760
unsure about it, just like I
would if I'm trying to act somebody.

625
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:30.920
For some moneys, It's been a
really cool tool for expressing myself. When

626
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:37.079
I stepped out of substance use disorder
to really true, I mean, I

627
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.639
guess disorder. Do you really get
rid of it. Maybe I don't know,

628
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.800
the jury's out on that, but
anyway, when I stepped out of

629
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:52.280
the active addiction and tried to remake
my life, I didn't know. And

630
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.280
this is how I said it to
a friend the other day. I didn't

631
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.840
know how to be me and a
good person and at the same time,

632
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:07.800
because they're like you, you're really
You're an introvert, aren't you? And

633
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.280
I was like, wait, what, I've never been called that before,

634
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.039
but I've never had that conversation since
becoming sober, and I was like,

635
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.000
you know, I can understand why
you would say that, but it's really

636
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.519
because I'm just like bottling up everything
around people that I consider my friends.

637
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:34.159
Now, if I let out everything
that Mitchell really is, are you gonna

638
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.360
like him? Are you not gonna
like him? How's it? So it's

639
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.599
been very interesting and I've been able
to kind of dig into that, and

640
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.480
it's been a little deeper and a
little deeper and a little deeper. Every

641
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.280
single time I do a blog,
I can just get to be goofy and

642
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.519
which I like to do, just
be kind of goofy, talk about birds

643
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:02.960
and weird stuff. And well,
it's been good and I've had a couple

644
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.880
of people that my thoughts are drifting. Um, A couple of people been

645
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.079
You're like, hey, I really
feel like I got to meet you a

646
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:15.480
little a little deeper and understand who
you are as a person more. And

647
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:16.800
I was like, well, sorry, I wasn't able to do that in

648
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.599
person. Thank you for reading my
blog. So yeah, it's it's a

649
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.480
different way to get some stuff out. And when you can harness that and

650
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.639
use it, it's it's beautiful,
you know. As another tool, I

651
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.599
want to have as many people write
blogs as they want to. You know,

652
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.599
maybe I should put a sign up
front job posting blog writer pays,

653
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:47.079
Recovery pays pays and recovery. Yeah, and Jesus from brine Crew, because

654
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.800
like, we don't make money off
it, but it is a tool,

655
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.920
you know, Like we pay money
for the website, we pay money to

656
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.880
have the blog, and somebody wants
to write a blog for free about their

657
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.840
recovery, about their life whatever.
Hit me up, man. There's another

658
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.360
thing I like about it, Like
I like being on the pod asked with

659
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.440
you and here and getting on with
the other guys and stuff. But I'm

660
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:13.239
not great with my words quickly and
like speaking and I'm hearing it and I

661
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:19.480
say certain words as filler words like
um like it's my big one. I

662
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.320
hate listening to myself a podcast because
I do that a lot. In a

663
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.840
blog, I can take a second
to think out the thought and then write

664
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.360
out the whole thing and then proof
read it, and then the other day

665
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.800
I proof read it a second time. I went, oh, I missed

666
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.360
even more. I've been doing that. Great. You don't really get to

667
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.639
do that in podcasts. That's something
I really like about the blog, and

668
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.599
like especially too with the podcast.
As you say something and it's recorded,

669
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.800
I'll have to get all up in
it. It could be a button,

670
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.239
could be a drop yeah for a
long time tabulous, I don't know.

671
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:14.480
I like it. I liked being
your drop man. Yeah. But that's

672
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.840
that's something that we can use to
help move us forward. The podcast was

673
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:23.320
something I used, you know.
It was I was always trying to hide

674
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.840
that I was in recovery, and
when I started the podcast, there was

675
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.280
no hiding it. I just was
like, I'm in recovery. And that

676
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.960
felt so good and it was so
freeing, and it was very powerful,

677
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.280
and it gave me a little bit
more control over my life and where I

678
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.840
wanted it to go in recovery.
So it added purpose to my life,

679
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.199
which is something I think a lot
of people need. I think it's really

680
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.760
weird how that worked for me because
I was hiding it for a really long

681
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:52.079
time and I had just decided shortly
before meeting you that I didn't want to

682
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.199
do well. I had known for
a long time I didn't want to do

683
00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:05.440
that A very large influence in my
life. Ex girlfriend Um convinced me it

684
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.360
was bad to live that out loud. She was a big believer in the

685
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:15.639
stigma. I believed her. You
know, yeah, there are gonna be

686
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:17.280
people out there that don't get it, that don't understand. But I guarantee

687
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:21.920
you they know somebody you know,
and if they're out there making fun of

688
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.000
him, then that's that's on them, you know if oh, uncle uncle

689
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.719
Jeff over there, he's old,
nasty alcohol like, Oh Well, what

690
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.079
I'm saying is like I just opened
up and then I met you and You're

691
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.480
like, hey, this is how
we really do it, and showed me

692
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.199
this is you can have this life
and let people know and enjoy it.

693
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.400
And I was like I knew it. I knew it. But this guy

694
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.719
doesn't seem afraid about his recovery.
Yeah, I knew I could do that

695
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.920
too. I'm out the videos he
makes, you know, like this dude,

696
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:55.360
This dude don't care. He's got
recovery on his shirt. He likes

697
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.159
it. I got to you told
the story is one of the before I've

698
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.920
even started working here or got on
a podcast or anything. I think it

699
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.199
was when you talked about me on
a podcast for the first time, which

700
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.519
will always be my favorite, because
you like pretended to change my name,

701
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.679
but you just said my actual name, and I was like, smooth,

702
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.199
great, good job. But then
you mentioned me. And then somebody that

703
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.679
you guys met at like Chili's that
saw your shirt and I was wearing one

704
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:28.840
of my two seventeen recovery shirts and
met my mom and son at Appleby's like

705
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:34.679
last week. Got into this really
awesome conversation with the waitress there. I

706
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.480
think her name is Megan. Megan, if you're listening, I hope your

707
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.599
friends doing well. I'll have to
get all up in it. I don't

708
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:47.280
think you not that you get at
me slot in them dms no, but

709
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.440
she asked for I had just gotten
my cards with Adam's email on it,

710
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.960
and she wanted to know if I
had a card because she asked me what

711
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:59.719
two seventeen recovery was, and well, first she asked me if I was,

712
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.199
so I was like, yeah,
it's like me too, and I'm

713
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.199
like the biggest support for my neighbor
who's you know, going through it,

714
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.679
and um, it was a really
cool conversation and I got to say,

715
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.719
hey, we do this, listen
to the podcast and interact, write a

716
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:19.320
blog, do all this stuff,
get in contact with us, contact with

717
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.800
us't even need help, and uh, it was pretty neat. Made me

718
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.000
think of that time You're talking about
Chili's Chick and I was like, I

719
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.559
must be doing something right because I'm
doing stuff like Corey and Marty talking about

720
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:36.119
I felt kind of bad because I
was in the meeting with the Gratitude meeting

721
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.280
and I had a sharpie and I
was like, I'm really proud of finally

722
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.760
having a card with my name on
it. I'm gonna have these to give

723
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.760
out and they said they're gonna get
the ones that don't have adams name on

724
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.199
it, So I'm just gonna take
the sharpie until I get those ones.

725
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.639
And like hey this much. Well, it's I don't have an email,

726
00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:00.199
and then you do all that and
then very next morning, sorry about that?

727
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.920
Is that whatever? I appreciate it? I really do. Yeah,

728
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:09.599
I was so excited to have cards, even with Adams. I'm kind of

729
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:17.239
a big deal. Adam at two
S two covers my complaint department. Yeah,

730
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.800
so if you have a complaint or
you just want to send Adam an

731
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.519
email, do do so right now, we're gonna wrap this podcast up.

732
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.960
You canna send Adam an email about
I really I should have kept some of

733
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.039
them so if anybody was like,
I want to complain, I could be

734
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:37.840
like, here's a card, send
a time, like Adam, what's going

735
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:44.360
on, buddy? Because we're getting
all these ete emails. He's got this

736
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:49.519
cool meeting. We kind of fell
on it because I wanted him to redo

737
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.719
his voice part of his promo,
which you can go listen to now before

738
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:59.000
it's gone to seventeen recovery dot com
slash meetings. But his new meeting actually

739
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:06.119
I think already took it down anyway. His new meeting is Recovery Dads,

740
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:12.800
which I think it's perfect. He
is a father. That makes sense twice.

741
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.199
But yeah, and he's pretty good
at it, you know, somebody

742
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:22.079
did that with him twice. So
he started this meeting and I think he's

743
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.920
gonna have a lot to share and
I think a lot of people are gonna

744
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.039
be like, that's where I want
to go. I want to go talk

745
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.119
about this because that is an issue
that a lot of people in recovery deal

746
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.280
with, especially if you're you know, a dad obviously, and even if

747
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.119
you're not, you can still show
up. You know. It's more of

748
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.880
like a men's meeting, but recovery
dads, you know, like that.

749
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.320
That's something that I think will go
over pretty well. And he has a

750
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.679
flyer for it now. And the
other day we were talking about him redoing

751
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.800
his audio and that's where he was
just like, man, I'm not good

752
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.719
at this. I can't do this
and every take just kind of sound with

753
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.320
the same same you know, and
I'm like, pretend you're a dinosaur or

754
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.079
whatever else do and I'm like,
well, we brought up some well beutron

755
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:07.639
that helped. I think that's illegal, but that's cool. Um, it's

756
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.920
Adam at two seventeen recovery dot com
if you want to set up a time

757
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:16.880
to talk to him. With the
police. That's really Mitch Mitchell, but

758
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.199
spelled a D. But I tell
him, I was like, man,

759
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.719
maybe have go home and I have
your daughter voice it with you, you

760
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:27.760
know, his young daughter. I'm
like, have her, you know,

761
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.039
beyond it. And he's like that
I heard I mention that he was excited

762
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:31.039
about it, and that's thought that
was a cool idea. And I think

763
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.440
his promo is going to be the
probably the best one out of all of

764
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.719
them, you know, because a
has a little kid in it, which

765
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.480
people love kids, most people,
and it'll it'll sound cute and it'll sound

766
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.320
like, man, like, that's
what's up, you know, like that's

767
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:49.199
what being in recovery is about getting
your family back and being around your kids

768
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.559
and being able to do that kind
of thing. And I think that will

769
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.280
probably be a really good promo.
So I'm looking forward to it. But

770
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.119
it's like Adam said today, He's
like, maybe that's a god thing.

771
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.840
It's like absolutely it was, man. You know, the fact that you

772
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:06.280
couldn't come in here and just rip
a promo out, you know, you

773
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.119
had to stumble and just say I
can't do it. I can't do it.

774
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:13.800
I don't know how I can't do
it and to like flip that around

775
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.679
and like, well we'll come up
with this idea. And then had the

776
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:20.760
Recovery Dad meeting. You know it
was called up and Adam, which looks

777
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.719
funny. Yeah, it's funny,
but it doesn't really tell you too much

778
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:28.239
about it. You know what Recovery
Dad's meeting on Sundays at ten am.

779
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.599
You know what that's about. And
you can get that on zoom. You

780
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:37.039
got the two seventeen Recovery app.
I'll be waiting for my royalties because the

781
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:49.119
fire some icon resemble somebody very close
to you right now, okay, yeah

782
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.519
his fire. I put that together. It looks pretty cool. It's yeah,

783
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.800
Dad's Recovery Dad's Zoom. If you're
not in Michigan on Traverse City,

784
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:02.679
can't stop buy this the two Recovery
Center, jump on zoom. Sunday's at

785
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:07.159
ten Then if you want to come
by, grab donuts whatever, Maybe you

786
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.880
don't want you're not in the recovery, just come coming to look for some

787
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:15.159
dads. I wish I wish there
was a West Goll around free donuts.

788
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.079
We would plug them, like,
hey, go to West Goll get all

789
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.599
your donuts. Like if they gave
us donuts, you're already plugging you,

790
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:22.079
I know, because they're good and
they're worth it. But there's just not

791
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.639
any around here. West goll probably
would, I know they would. Let's

792
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:32.440
go to hook us up or just
want to five leak it's so worth the

793
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.199
drive. Well, somebody's coming in. If you're coming in to the two

794
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.559
seventeen Recovery Center for Sunday mileage every
Saturday morning, do you pick up oh

795
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.199
your Sunday We're not doing it for
Adam. He can get his own five

796
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:52.000
flake donuts. Yeah, just let
us know, or if you know a

797
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.880
place that would like to donate donuts, but we really do need someplace like

798
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.840
that though. What if okay,
I'm gonna rabbit trail here. What if

799
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:09.239
you found the one West Go that
does the fresh donuts and they're like that

800
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:13.760
hub of West Gos where they make
all the donuts and the other ones that

801
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.360
kind of like send them out to
them. Because I've found that with my

802
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:22.119
little grocery store chain that I like
to get donuts from. This one location

803
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:30.039
is amazing donuts every day. The
other ones are like they got the donuts

804
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:38.079
from the good store the day before. It's disappointing. I think you're you're

805
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:44.039
plugging an entire business and it might
just be that one place. They have

806
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:45.360
several I think that some of them, I want to say, the one

807
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.679
in Coloma makes their own or the
one in I want to lead, some

808
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.519
of them might just make their own
Mitch, Okay, that's possible. I

809
00:57:53.559 --> 00:58:00.320
mean it is hard apparently for some
companies. And I was ragging on what's

810
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:06.599
the name of that place down the
street. I don't remember it. I

811
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.199
almost said it wrong, Potters Potters. Yeah, I was writing on them.

812
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.199
But I think I just got COVID
donuts because I went there a couple

813
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.800
of times after and they were they
were just fine. Yeah, the ones

814
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:19.239
that you got to show up My
Tom's Donuts were really nice looking. Yeah,

815
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.599
they were good. So I take
all that COVID stuff back or like,

816
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.519
no, I don't, because it
happened and they were horrible donuts.

817
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.079
But the last few times I went
there they were good. But now I'm

818
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:30.079
trying not to eat donuts. So
well, now you know, if you

819
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.360
put COVID in your donuts, they're
gonna suck. Yeah, unless they're West

820
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.239
Co Donuts, and I'll eat those
all day. Well, I don't think

821
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.880
they put COVID in their donuts.
It sounds like a thing the Potters will

822
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.480
do. I wouldn't think they would
do that. I don't think anybody would

823
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.960
do that. But it was when
COVID was happening, and then you made

824
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.400
it sound like they had COVID in
their donuts, and then it made them

825
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.360
worse. And no, they don't
put that in their donuts anymore. No,

826
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.400
that's the Chinese people, My Chinese
people, I mean China. We're

827
00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.920
putting COVID and ice cream. Just
what are they there? I should have

828
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:05.559
told Justin that I kept my they
were coming after me because I had talked

829
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.159
shit about them, and so then
they started putting an ice cream because they

830
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:13.639
were coming after me. I kept
my positive COVID tests around that time to

831
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.000
use as a weapon if I needed
too. He came at me to be

832
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:25.360
like whoa, whoa, whoa,
Oh step back, hold on slow today,

833
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:35.239
Oh man crazy. I didn't make
that up, though. That's gonna

834
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.320
do it for today's episode to seventeen
Recovery dot com. It's their website.

835
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:44.960
Check out more about Mitchell his blog, Justin his Fabulous meeting on Thursday,

836
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:52.719
Adam his Sunday meetings ten am Recovery
Dad, and you can watch videos learn

837
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.280
more to seventeen recovery dot com.
Get the app and you can go through

838
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.679
if you have the app, and
just pick a year and go back and

839
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.320
listen. Some of the episodes from
the past is much different podcast. I

840
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.519
think it was more wheels off.
But we were having fun in recovery,

841
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:12.800
and we were early in recovery,
and why not laugh is what we were

842
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.400
thinking. So if you want to
go check some of those out, some

843
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:21.280
better than others, but you might
get a nugget of info, maybe some

844
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:30.239
that don't aspire to you, maybe
a laugh. Who knows that was the

845
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.559
Dark Knight episode. I believe ghost
hunting. You're like, there's a shadow

846
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:44.280
figure. We were ghost hunting.
Yeah, kept going bath room, Yeah,

847
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.800
good times. Check it out.
Get the app. It's free.

848
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.760
It's easy to get the app if
you go to our website to seventeen recovery

849
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.960
dot com. Just click on the
icon. Otherwise, if you go to

850
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.480
search it in the app stores.
Who I don't even know he got type

851
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:59.159
in anymore. I can't remember.
I think he said two seventeen recovery altogether

852
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:07.039
on the Android and then two seventeen
Recovery podcast on the Apple Right, No,

853
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.480
I think it was just I don't
know, go figure it out.

854
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:15.400
People are smart. I believe that
you can seventeen and then the word recovery

855
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.039
and they need to either be touching
or not touching. Yeah, and if

856
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.079
not, if that's too much,
let's go to seventeen recovery that gun and

857
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:27.039
click the lock on. Pretty easy
to find a YouTube as well. Yeah,

858
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.599
yeah, cool, Thanks for listening, and we'll talk to you next

859
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.559
week. And next week, got
a big week to meet East Jordan's next

860
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.400
Friday Freedom Fest party and EJ.
Yeah, and something else is going on

861
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.039
next week too and I don't remember
what it is, but stay tuned because

862
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:46.199
it's gonna be awesome. But thanks
for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast.

863
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.960
We hope you come back for our
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