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It's time for coffee and company.
Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety

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Holy crap, I don't know who
the hell we think when we are getting

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off our show. Idiots. The
kids are playing or turning off prying.

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The countries are screwing it up.
Goal play inner Murals, Brother, goal

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play inner Murals. They're supposed to
be mature adults, but they're really not.

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Who's the kid here? Who's the
kid here? Are you kidding me?

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Now? Here's Nick coffee. It
may be because I was only outside

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for approximately I don't know, maybe
maybe forty five seconds. I walked out

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of my garage, and my garage
is tached, so I didn't really go

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outside, but I got in the
car left and you know, it didn't

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seem like it was excruciatingly hot outside. Then I get out of the car

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and walk into the uh, you
know, from the parking garage here at

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four Street Live, I walk into
our office. So I actually never really

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was exposed to the sun. So
maybe I'm a complete phony here, But

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I do feel like it's beautiful outside
today, Like it doesn't seem like we're

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flirting with you know, three digit
heat index anything like that it's very spring

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like. Yeah, it's one of
those days where it could be worse,

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but I wish I was outside.
I mean when I say it could be

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worse, like, you know,
I'm not trying to act like I'm complaining

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about my current situation because you know
this is great, but man, uh

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it seems beautiful and uh I'm sure
if I was out there long enough,

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it would get hot to where I
would want to step in and cool off

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a little bit with some AC.
But yeah, beautiful day. So hopefully

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everybody listening is able to take it
in, enjoy it, and hopefully you

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will enjoy your next three hours because
this is appointment listening at least I hope

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that it is. I hope you'll
stick with us. We are with you

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till sick. The Clocket's Coffee and
Company, fueled by Thornton's right here on

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Sports Talk seven ninety. My name's
Nick Coffee. I hope you knew that.

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If not, now you do the
company man, mister John William Alden

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the third, Is that right?
It is? It's a long legal that's

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a long legal sounding. Oh it
does? I mean like that's I feel

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like John William Alden, the Third
you could throw that full name into like

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a history book. I could be
in the royal family. Yeah, like

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if that that would work too.
Actually, but I'm thinking let's just say,

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like you're doing trivia somewhere and there's
like a you know, a history

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question and when they ask you to
guess, you know who did something historically

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that you read about when you were
in school but you didn't remember, right,

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Like you're just drawing a blank you're
not familiar. Like throw John William

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Alden the third in there as one
of the four options in the multiple choice.

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And I bet people who are just
guessing they're gonna go with that,

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They're they're gonna say, you know
what, it's it sounds it sounds like

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he was the guy that did this
or did that. I don't know that

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I'm going to pass that name on
and you know, to future generations,

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but it does seem like a cool
thing to be able to continue to keep

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that going on for you. Well, yeah, I mean if because if

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you're the second, really it's your
call. So like your father is the

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one who put this thing in motion, it is because I guess his father

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is the first one to do it. But there's a lot of first and

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seconds. I don't know how many
thirds there are, you know what I

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mean. I feel like there have
been many that have been the second,

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and maybe they just didn't feel great
about themselves and their lineage, so they

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were like, you know what,
I'm not going to put that on my

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son. I'm gonna let my son
be his own man, because me and

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my old man maybe we're not really
you know, the best to follow.

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But nonetheless, you are the third
and I I mean if it was me,

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I would I would I would go
with the fourth. But you know,

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the conversation you and your wife are
gonna have to have, Yeah,

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what would she think of that?
So we've gone back and forth, both

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of us with liking it and then
not liking it. Because whenever I was

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a kid, I was called John
John to distinguish me from my dad,

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and he was also known as Big
John. There were different ways to just

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thing was just between each other,
and it was it was confusing to some

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people. Obviously it eventually caught on, but you know, you kind of

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have to be a little creative whenever
you name your child after yours. I

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kind of like John John. I'm
being honest with you, Like John John.

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That's a I mean that could be
like that could have been your radio

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name, could have I mean,
you know, well, I felt like

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I was six years old again.
You know, you've got to kind of

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navigate to a radio nickname, as
we've discussed many times, and I can't

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think of I mean you being the
company man, and actually I love it

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because you really are like a company
man, and the show's called Coffee and

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Company. When I say company man, I don't mean like you're a you're

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an ass kisser, but you care
about what we do here, and you

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put a lot into it. You're
not going to cut corners, and you

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you know you you respect the brand
we work for in the show. So

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it kind of fits. But you
know, Billy Billy Retligis wanted to pick

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his own nickname, and that's why
he still didn't have one, because you

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know you can't do that. I
still love one of our former part time

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producers, which I'm sure you've never
met, Big Nick. I just called

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him Nick the Brick because he was
built like a brick house brick. In

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fact, you might have went to
school with that guy. We'll talk about

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that at different time. But nonetheless, he uh, he was great and

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that and that that nickname fit.
I used to work with a guy who

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I didn't give him his nickname,
but when I started working with him,

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he'd already been given a radio nickname
many many years ago, and it was

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Bacon because he was an intern for
I think three months before they hired him

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part time, and every day he
showed up, uh be to do an

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afternoon show to intern, and he
brought a baconator with him every day.

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So hence the bacon. Yeah,
I mean he became Bacon. Uh And

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then who else I'm trying to think
of? There was the marvelous Matt Allen

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that wasn't really a nickname. It
just kind of rolled off the tongue and

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I felt like it sounded good,
so I just kept calling him that.

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What about Clint? What was his
nickname when he was here? Uh?

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So? He had one that he
brought from a different radio station, and

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I don't I didn't. I don't
think that I that was weird to me.

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I think it was Beauford and I
just never Tony. I think Tony

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and Dave might have had a good
nickname for Clint, but I didn't.

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There wasn't one that ever really Stuck
and Austin. The way in which Austin's

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nickname came about was perfect, but
it just he wasn't consistently around enough to

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where it would have really like it
would have felt weird to randomly call him

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a name that everybody would know is
not his name, Like if he was

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a fixture within the show every day, it would have been a little bit

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easier to sell it. But he
used to work at at Chuck E Cheese

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and he used to dress up as
the mouse, so we really, yeah,

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I know, yeah, that was
his first job, I think.

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So he used to work there,
and part of his job was he would

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have to like be in the mouse
costume for kids parties. And I called

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him Chucky. But and again the
story makes it makes sense, but he

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so doesn't look like a Chucky,
no, you know what I mean,

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And you can't do Chuck, And
really, Chucky's not as much of a

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nickname. That's a real person's name. So like, maybe we could have

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done a better play into something really
to Chuck E Cheese. And back when

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I was a part time where I
was Crimson John on this show or on

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your morning version of this Yeah,
and I don't know why because like obviously

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Crimson Crimson. Yeah, but when
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more than anything. Although I guess
are they the same colors? Like if

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you put if you put an Indiana
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side. Now that I think about
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would be almost identical, although I
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red, right, Yeah, it's
a little more defined. Yeah, And

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I've seen Indiana were stuff for the
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consistent, you know what I'm saying. Like they I've I've seen like in

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basketball, like the candy stripe to
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like a true dark Crimson. But
their football, I feel like it's more

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of a darker shade than Where's the
consistency, I mean, figure it out.

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They got to get it together,
They got to get it together.

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All right, We're gonna get it
together here and get this thing started.

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I'll get it started with once again
another reminder, go buy your tickets because

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they're I mean, I don't think
it's going to sell out, so I

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can't lie to you and be like
you better get tickets now, or you're

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not going to be able to get
in, because that's not true. You

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want to show up day of and
buy tickets, you can, But I

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would love, and I mean,
I would love to be able to show

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up Saturday with everybody already knowing that, like we've broke the record. Not

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sold out, but the record has
been broken, and Louisville will, in

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fact, you know, make history. And it probably isn't something we're going

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to you know, throw into the
media guide because it's not really a U

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of elevent but it would be really
cool and it would it would confirm what

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I have always thought about this TVT
thing, and that is that this could

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be our thing. Not to say
that nobody else is going to do it,

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but we could be the I mean, there's a reason that they came

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back to Freedom Hall for a second
straight season after last year they were only

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here for the for the first that
first. You know, I don't I

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don't know how they do the bracket
what they call it, but it was

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the first pod essentially, and it
was successful. I mean, and I

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think if they were won and kept
playing it, it would have continue to

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bring even more people out to come
and watch them so, And I'm gonna

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look at this later. I haven't
checked, but last year they did sell

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these tickets in Louisville way more.
They were way more expensive than anywhere else,

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And I kind of feel like that's
lame to do. But then again,

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like I also kind of get it
because they do. They got to

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make money. They do know that
Louisville will pay more cause I think when

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you're hosting in Louisville for Louisville's games, specifically, you're targeting the Louisville Cardinal

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fan base, like the city of
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other teams that are coming from who
knows where that have a bunch of players

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that are from various teams, like
I just don't really know, Like you

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don't have a built in fan base. The built in fan base is here,

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which is why it makes total sense
for Louisville to be a host and

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for Louisville to have a roster that
features, you know, ninety percent of

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a former Louisville players. But if
you're in if you're in Philadelphia, which

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I think that's where the finalists,
so maybe there was, so maybe there

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isn't one there, but I think
Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is doing the same thing.

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And I don't even know if Pittsburgh
has a team that is featured with

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a bunch of former Pittsburgh players.
I haven't seen one, but let's just

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say there, you know there there. POD has, however, many teams,

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but they're all either you know,
schools that just don't have a big

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enough following to where they'd be a
host, or it's just a team made

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up of players from all over the
place. You have to sell your tickets

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cheap because there's no incentive for people
to go unless you know it's somewhat affordable

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and hey, we can go watch
some basketball like this audience that you have

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here at Freedom Hall on Saturday.
I mean, just about every single person

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that's going to be in there when
Louisville and Bellarman play each other is going

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to be there because it's Louisville basketball. And I'm sure Bellerman will bring some

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fans and those connected to those guys
that decided to come back and and you

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know, do the same thing Wolves
doing. But as far as ticket sales,

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I'm trying to see. There was
an article of WDRB here and I

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just saw it before the show started
today, so I'm trying to get the

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gist of it really quickly here,
But that says as of Wednesday, advanced

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sales in Louisville were around forty five
hundred, which of course is what we'd

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said about the Lower Bowl. But
again I know now that I mean,

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actually here, here we go it
says spokesman Jake Pavorski said that more than

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three thousand tickets have been sold for
Friday's two sessions and rough so as of

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yesterday. And the reason that's the
reason I was bringing this up is because

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Louisville has had a good lead on
Lexington when it comes to tickets sold.

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And the reason I bring this up
is because whoever's if Louisville is the team

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that ends up winning their pod,
hopefully that's the case. In Kentucky's the

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team that ends up winning their pod. They'll play each other, obviously,

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and whoever sells the most tickets will
be the host for that. So Louisville

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has a pretty good lead right now. And I mean, I guess you

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never know who's going to show up
day of and buy tickets. I guess

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that's the real you know, because
this isn't one of those things where you

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hear about it and you're like,
hmm, let me go to ticket master.

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Although, as we've discussed most things, like even if it's a small

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venue and you're going to watch I
don't know, like an mm A fight,

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but it's not UFC, it's like
some you know, local promotion,

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you're probably still gonna buy tickets online. So I don't know, I have

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no clue what kind of crowd you're
gonna get that does walk up. But

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I'd say unless there's some dramatic shift
in Lexington, Louisville will be in position

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to where if they can do they
can do their part, they can take

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care of business on there, and
meaning you know, win this pod,

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they'll be able to host the next
into the later round, which would be

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huge, would be absolutely huge.
So again, go buy your tickets if

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you haven't already. There's there twenty
eight bucks apiece, which again I know

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is not is not super cheap,
but I kind of had, you know,

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I felt bad after I kept saying
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I mean, I don't know,
I wouldn't even know what I would expect

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tickets to be to get into one
of these games. Because it's not this

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is this is not I mean it's
a basketball game, right, It's an

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event at Freedom Hall. It's gonna
be on Fox. But like this is

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unique compared to like anything else you'd
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right like high school football, aau
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a feel for what it's going to
cost to get into things. I wouldn't

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even have a clue what they would
charge for this, and now they're you

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know, I can see they're charging
twenty eight bucks for a ticket in the

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upper level. But you know,
I guess as far as if that's affordable

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expensive, whatever it may be,
it's really just it comes down to you

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know, what you view is expensive
in what you don't. You know how

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much tickets are for the Indianah,
I'm gonna look like that. I think

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they're pretty similar. I don't.
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I do believe they're in the same
ballpen. It's at Butler, right,

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it is. It's a Hinkle how
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seats they hold at Hinkle Field House. Now I got to look it up.

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So Butler round one that will be
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I'm not sure who, uh Indiana
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on Friday. Oh it's more expensive
there. Okay, well, what're we

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going on? So if you and
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and tickets for that are by the
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at Hinkle, tickets for that are
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upper level, Yeah, I mean I

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get I don't I don't know how
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was thinking maybe it could be a
situation to where there's not I mean there's

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not really I mean I've been.
I went to Hinkle for the first time

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this past basketball season. There's not
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mean, there is an upper level, but it's such a small place.

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What did you say the number was
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mean, that's a relatively small place. So yeah, you actually have three

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fairly large fan bases with Indiana,
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the arena. So what's the appetite
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I know, obviously you're way more
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especially to see a lot of guys
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and I don't think the excitement level
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for Louisville specifically. But again,
I'm down here where I get to exposed

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to the Louisville side of it.
So we'll see. I think Indiana's put

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together a really good roster. I
hope they perform. Well. I'm excited

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to watch him play tomorrow night.
Did you see And I'll have to go

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look who it is because it wasn't
a name that I recognized, but there

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was a player for a former player
from Indiana who was upset that he didn't

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get asked to play, and he
was upset that there's players for Indiana that

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are not Indiana guys. I wonder
who was upset. So it wasn't somebody

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that I'd recognized. Okay, there
was a guy. So last year they

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tried to put a team together and
one of the players was Derek Elston and

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he's not on this roster for this
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So I don't think it would be
Derek Elston. I don't think he has

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that type of a personality, but
I am curious as to who that might

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be. I mean, would he
help though, Like I mean, would

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he be Elston? Yeah? Yeah, he was a decent contributor on the

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team that he was a cream guy, right, yeah, it was a

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Crean guy. So maybe I'm the
only one fascinated by this, but I

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think it'd be a good documentary to
do to give a behind the scenes look

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at how this comes together, because
again, not everybody and I think it

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used to be maybe it still is
used to be on the TBT website.

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You could go and see like what
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I don't think that's still available,
which I don't think it should be.

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But there are probably plenty of guys
that were asked to play, that

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wanted to play, but it just
didn't make sense from a financial standpoint,

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because you know, like, to
be honest with you, Montrez Harold playing

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for Louisville is a gift to Louisville
because Mantres doesn't need the money. Montress

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Harold has made enough money. I
mean, I'm sure he would love who

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wouldn't have more who wouldn't want more
money than they already have. But Montres

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Harold has had a eight to nine
year career in the NBA making a good

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salary, So you know, for
him, I think he's doing this because

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he came last year if you remember, and was at every game I believe

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that they played, was front and
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Tres really when he couldn't come back
to Louisville because of the NCAA situation,

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he chose not to talk to them
once he was gone, and that led

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to UFL disassociating themselves from three players, which by the way, all three

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these guys are now playing for this
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and Montrez Harrell. So those three
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to Tres. You know, I
think Trez just you know, when he

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couldn't come back, and I remember
it was a big deal. He tried

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to just go and you know,
scan his fingerprint to get into work out

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during his second third offseason in the
NBA, and he couldn't get in,

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kind of had to be the one
that was like, look, man,

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it ain't personal, but this is
why, like, you know, the

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school has made this school is not
allowed to have you. Like he would

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come to games, and I think
he would use Jonathan Blue seats because he

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couldn't be given seats. He couldn't
be you know, he couldn't be promoted,

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he couldn't be shown up there like
hey, former Louisville Cardinals here,

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let's put the camera on him.
That kind of stuff. So I think

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that probably first of all, shout
out to Tres for like, you know,

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getting over that and still being clearly
you know, a big supporter of

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U of L and the program,
the city and all that kind of stuff.

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So I think Louis was lucky that
Trez wants to do this because it's

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not about money for him. Again, I'm sure he's gonna get a good

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chunk of whatever they win if they
win it. But there are like putting

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you gotta be a gotta be a
GM here, Like I would be willing

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to bet that there's Indiana players that
probably you know, we're available, that

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could have played, but they realize, hey, this guy, if we

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had if we had him he's gonna
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But that means we no longer could
have Noah von Lay, we could

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no longer have Juwan Morgan. Because
you know, when you are playing professional

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basketball, not in the NBA,
and the way you're gonna make money is

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to probably do it overseas unless you're
on a two way. You can make

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pretty good money doing that. You
got to be careful because if you go

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out here and you play in this
tournament and you get hurt, you could

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miss out on a year's salary playing
across the pond, and you have nothing

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to show for it. Because because
so in a way, some of these

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guys are taking risks. Now a
lot of them aren't high level, like

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hey, because again, a lot
of these guys and I was talking to

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somebody yesterday, a younger agent,
who young kid who's you know, probably

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in his mid twenties, who he
became an agent here in Louisville and he's

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very successful, but he's mostly working
with guys that have contracts overseas. But

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the TBT event itself has led to
leagues in other countries putting stipulations in contracts

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that now say you can't do that. And that's why last year Earl thought

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he was clear he wasn't couldn't play. And then also those Kentucky guys like

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I wouldn't be shocked if you know, they felt like they were in the

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clear. But then again they you
know, these these over because again,

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if they've invested in you, they've
already paid you, if you like,

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if you're on like a two year
contract, was one of these teams overseas

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like to be fair, actually get
their point why they wouldn't want you to

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play because you could get hurt and
you know, not be able to play

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for them, but because it's like
not, there's no like these guys who

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are playing in the TVT, they're
not on a contract. They're just you

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know, they have an arrangement with
whoever's putting it together, and they're out

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here playing to try to share a
bunch of money. So, you know,

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because you're not signing a contract,
you're just playing. I think a

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lot of these guys feel like,
well, I didn't, you know,

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I just it's just like playing pick
up ball, and I guess technically it

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kind of is, but then again, you know it's not because it's on

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television and there's a lot of money
on the line. So anyways, I'm

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I'm sure I'm more fascinated with that
side of it than others. But you

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know, I Dwayne Sutton, Race
Balding, Ryan McMahon. There's a bunch

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of guys for on the Louisville side, Jalen Johnson, who, by the

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way, is still playing professional basketball
and he's doing well. Like these are

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guys that could have helped Louisville.
But I think you bring in enough of

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those guys, those those young guys
who still have the ability to go make

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way well over six figures overseas.
If they're gonna come here and play and

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risk it, meaning risking injury,
and if they don't win the whole thing,

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they get nothing. You know,
you're gonna have to sweeten the pot

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for them to take that risk.
And a lot of them, you know,

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it just doesn't make sense. But
who knows, maybe once you know,

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three or four years go by,
maybe Ray, maybe Dwayne, those

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are two guys that would be,
you know, more more available to add

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in. All right, before we
take our first break, let me set

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the table for you, guys.
Pat Kelsey has been killing it ever since

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he got here, and what I
mean is like saying all the right things

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clearly put together a team that a
lot of folks are excited about, and

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I think that excitement is justified with
the personnel that he has. But he's

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also reminded me that being accessible and
open can only help you. Now,

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you got to do your part.
You gotta go win games, and he

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hadn't had the chance to do that
yet, the season hasn't started. But

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just by being so accessible and being
so transparent, like it's this stuff can

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help you. And so many coaches, you know, if they don't do

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their part, it doesn't matter.
Right, if they don't win, it

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doesn't matter. But why would you
not want to be engaging with your fan

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base? And Pat Kelsey he was. We've got some sound to share with

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you from his comments at the selected
Seat event that they had a couple of

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nights ago at the Young Center.
Just hearing him talk about the team,

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specifically the personnel as far as you
know, the kind of guys they went

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after, I think that's worth listening
to. And also he hosted just about

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every high school coach in the area
that wanted to come to a practice.

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A couple of days ago they had
him in and that's those are things that

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again, like you may not ever
talk to those coaches down the line,

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you may never recruit one of their
players, but it's good to you know,

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have those guys around and tell them
what you're all about, because hey,

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there's support could help you, you
know what I mean. And there

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was one coach I talked to yesterday
that was there and gave me a little

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bit of insight into what he saw
at the practice, which I mean,

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I don't know if i'd call this
scoop by any means, but there's some

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stuff I'd like to share with you
guys when it comes to that. So

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I know football season is, you
know, gonna be here sooner than basketball.

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But Pat Kelsey has has continued to
make the basketball program a talking point

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in the month of July because of
you know, him being available, being

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transparent, accessible, all kinds of
different interviews, and that stuff matters.

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Man. Also, I think we
finally got a little bit of I wouldn't

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say drama at the SEC media days
that I guess are lasting all week,

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but Lang Kiffin put Paul Finbaum in
a body bag and I absolutely loved it.

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I want you guys to hear it
as well. And next week,

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of course, will be the the
ACC Football Media Days, the a SEC

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kickoff in Charlotte, and the anticipation
is building as far as folks wanting to

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hear what Jim Phillips is going to
say in regards to the current mess.

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But I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think this guy is going

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to say anything that you know,
gives us any kind of indication as to

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the future of the league and how
you know, maybe everybody can all get

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along. I just don't see that
happening. And speaking of the ACC,

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we're going to be joined at four
o'clock David Hale, who covers the covers

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the ACC free ESPN. We'll get
his thoughts on all this potential realignment and

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well actually get his thoughts on,
you know, the upcoming season as well.

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I mean, realignment and revenue sharing
has been a big talking point.

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But once they start playing games before
too long, like nobody's going to talk

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about that stuff. So we're loaded
the rest of the way. Stick with

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us right here, it's coffee and
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it just doesn't happen. That's what
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and you know, turning the microphone
on, I'm sure you may probably would

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you probably rather listen to this than
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So text line five two six five
three zero seven ninety it's the lenn

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Federal Credit Unions x line. You
have one person send in a screenshot of

415
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:21.319
somebody who tweeted out that the Law
Familiar TBT team really demolished the Kentucky team

416
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.799
yesterday because I guess they scrimmaged.
It was the Law Familiar group and Mark

417
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:30.000
Pope's current team. And I did
see that thread before you sent the screenshot

418
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:32.119
earlier today, because of course,
you know, that's one of those things

419
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.200
that we'll get a lot of engagement. It'll be Kentucky fans claiming that's not

420
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:41.160
true, you know, there's no
way, and then there's Louisville fans,

421
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.519
you know, sharing it like wow, can you believe they hired Mark Pope?

422
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.160
It's crazy. This team's gonna sucks, Like that's just what happens within

423
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:48.720
the rivalry. But I you know, I mean, I have no clue

424
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.160
if that happened or not. But
even if it did, I mean,

425
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.160
I don't know why that would be
viewed as like uh oh, I mean,

426
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.519
well, ever know, so it's
probably not something worth spending much time

427
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:07.160
on. But some of the best
TVT teams out there, I mean I

428
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:14.319
feel like they would beat the majority
of college basketball teams maybe I'm I mean

429
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.079
most of them have played professional basketball. Yeah, I mean the Kentucky team.

430
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.720
I mean, if you just go
look at it, and again,

431
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:25.079
it all comes down to what kind
of shape these guys are in, meaning

432
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.920
like, you know, are they
are they still? Like for example,

433
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:32.359
last year, there were some guys
for Louisville that really had to work to

434
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:37.319
get in shape to play in this
event, and they hadn't played professionally in

435
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.880
a year or so, like Shane
Ahannon. I mean, Mark Lieberman put

436
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.559
him through workouts and training for a
long time before he was given the green

437
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.240
light as far as being able to
join the team. And I'm glad to

438
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:49.880
see that Shane's back again this year, and I hope he's, you know,

439
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:55.279
just as effective as he was last
year. Wayne blackshear he joined it.

440
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.359
He he he adn't played in a
while, and you could tell he

441
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.799
wasn't in great shape. He didn't
play a whole lot of minutes out there,

442
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:07.079
so you know that's so with just
with the Kentucky team specifically, I

443
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.000
would say that, you know,
if the Harrison Twins were you know,

444
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.279
playing professionally at a high level within
the last you know, within you know,

445
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.079
they're fresh off of a season or
something like that, then I don't

446
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.480
think that would be like a terrible
look for Kentucky's current team if the law

447
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.200
familiar group got the best of him. I mean, Willie Caley Stein,

448
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.480
I don't think he's ever stopped paying
professional leamus in the NBA recently, and

449
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.599
I think went to China. Same
thing with Eric Bledsoe. So I mean,

450
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:33.960
I look, I have no clue
what happened in that game, and

451
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.200
you know, I don't know if
they kept score. I'm not even sure

452
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.480
if they actually had a real scrimmage. And somebody shared a graphic that showed

453
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.519
like a score that that you know, made it clear that whoever put that

454
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:45.920
out there was not telling the truth. But then again, I had somebody

455
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.039
I saw somebody that shared it and
said that that's you know, they didn't

456
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.000
even keep score, like it wasn't
like a real game like that. So

457
00:27:52.359 --> 00:28:00.240
you know, if Louisville's team of
Russ Smith Payton, Siva, Shae Beahannen

458
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:07.279
Mantrez, Harrold Shanano, and o'waku. I mean, had David Johnson,

459
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.759
who's in Chris Jones. I mean
David Johnson is still a young buck.

460
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:17.599
I mean he would just be,
you know, freshly removed from from college

461
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:22.720
if he stayed four years. So
if they played Louisville's current team and it

462
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:27.599
was a dub for the TBT team, I wouldn't feel any differently about I

463
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.920
mean, I just again, it
all comes back to are these guys still

464
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.400
playing basketball at a high level?
And I don't mean the NBA, I

465
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.559
mean, like, are they still
like is it still what they do?

466
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.079
Are they still training and keeping themselves
in shape because that's how they make a

467
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.440
living. I mean, if that's
the case, then I think you'd expect

468
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.079
it to be certainly competitive, but
also like it shouldn't be a shock if

469
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.759
the professionals, you know, they
aren't forty and fifty, but you know

470
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.119
they're twenty six, twenty seven.
Like, I don't think it would be

471
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.319
a surprise if they got the best
of some of these college players. But

472
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.960
you know, we'll never know because
again they're not mean, there's no way

473
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:06.279
to know. All right, So
let's before we're going to talk more ACC

474
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.359
when we bring in David Hale,
who's going to join us at four o'clock.

475
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.119
He covers the ACC for ESPN and
the AC works with the ACC network,

476
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.200
So looking forward to catching up with
him in about twenty five minutes or

477
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.680
so. But before we do that, let's let's let's talk some some of

478
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:25.519
the some of the recent SEC takeaways
from the never ending media days. I

479
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.440
mean, are they Are they doing
it tomorrow too? Like I feel like

480
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.000
it's been a This is the fourth
day of it, and usually I think

481
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.640
the red carpet for them. Yeah, I mean usually it's a two day

482
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.720
thing. And heck, back in
the day it used to be a one

483
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.680
day thing, and now the A
the SEC has stretched it to four days.

484
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.359
But you know, hey, they
got more teams now they are.

485
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.519
I mean, I'm not complaining.
I guess it's I'm not complaining that they're

486
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.599
continuing to do it each and every
day this week because each day it's given

487
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.079
us something to talk about. But
it's just, you know, it's the

488
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.400
SEC I think wanting to continue to
like make it quite clear that it means

489
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.480
more to them, right, that's
their slogan at me more so. Anyways,

490
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:07.839
the non game schedule was was expected
to happen as soon as they added

491
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.720
these two schools, Texas and Oklahoma, and it was a big talking point

492
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.799
when they decided not to because it
just it looked weak, right, I

493
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.079
mean, you would make your league
even more money by adding another game where

494
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:23.240
you're playing conference foes. And it
also was a real reminder and in fact,

495
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.599
it wasn't something I learned. I
did not know that the SEC plays

496
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.359
eight conference games, whereas the Big
ten plays nine, and I think the

497
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.079
PAC twelve played nine before the league
exploded, and you know doesn't exist anymore

498
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.920
in the SEC. The average strength
to schedule for the SEC in the non

499
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:48.279
conference games only was dreadful, and
it just kind of made it even more

500
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.119
of an you know, just annoyed
me to think that they get the benefit

501
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.680
of the doubt because they play in
the almighty SEC, and when they go

502
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.599
out and play their four non conference
games, the majority of those games where

503
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.799
SEC teams are playing teams not from
the SEC are against bums, And you

504
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.720
know, I just I feel like, if you really think you are big

505
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.279
and bad, why not play a
ninth game, it'd make more money for

506
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.119
your league. You'd have more money
in revenue to even share, because that's

507
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.400
one of those things that clearly will
adjust what you're making as far as the

508
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.359
rev share. If there's nine instead
of eight games that you're you know,

509
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.799
that's more inventory, that's more money
that ESPN's gonna make, and they're gonna

510
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.359
have to cut the check and share
some of that with you. So it

511
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:37.720
sounds like it is going to happen
eventually, which it should. But anytime

512
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.079
that comes up, right the SEC
going to nine games around here, it

513
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.720
brings up the question would Kentucky get
rid of Louisville because they would now have

514
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:51.960
to play a ninth SEC team?
And I've often said the same In fact,

515
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.000
I think I've been saying the same
thing about that for years, and

516
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.599
that is that nobody would win,
Like it would be a travesty for them

517
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.240
to get rid of that game,
because there's not anybody on either side that

518
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.759
doesn't want to play their rival,
and Kentucky their fans aren't scared of Louisville

519
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.960
like and that used to be the
real kicker for me, is that it'd

520
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:15.079
be one thing if for the last
twenty years, Kentucky just you know,

521
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.920
won a couple of games against Louisville, but that's not the case. They've

522
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.279
dominated lately and that and I hate
saying that, Like I almost had a

523
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.720
you know, it was blacked out
just saying it, But it's the truth.

524
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.400
I mean, they have, like
they have absolutely benefited from having Louisville

525
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.599
on the schedule because they've won against
their rival and sometimes like last year,

526
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.839
they've beat their rival when the rival
was a top ten team, and it

527
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.920
and enhances their view of themselves and
it's helped Mark Stoops because rivalry games matter,

528
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.720
so you know, it will there's
no way around it if they canceled,

529
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.519
if they just decide, Okay,
we're getting out of the series because

530
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.680
the leagues made a change, so
we're not going to play Louisville anymore,

531
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:58.480
it will absolutely look like they're scared. There's no other way to justify it.

532
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.359
We don't want to play Louisville because
we're scared lose to them here and

533
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.519
there, and we need to make
sure we get as many wins as we

534
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.200
can have. Like there any way, there's no other way to spin it.

535
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.440
But here's the thing. I know
that their fan base isn't scared.

536
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.599
I know Mark Stoops isn't scared,
so like, why would they do that?

537
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.079
Like who went? Like what do
you been? I mean, nobody

538
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.720
wants that. So now to the
point where I feel like, even though

539
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.319
Barnhardt and even Stoops have given very
little comments on the whole thing, but

540
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.920
when they do, they certainly leave
it open for you to believe that they

541
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.000
may get rid of this game.
But I'm starting to think that that's all

542
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:37.400
just nonsense, like because you cannot
find a single reason why you would get

543
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.559
rid of that game other than you're
scared of losing. But they're not,

544
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.519
and they shouldn't be. I mean, Kentucky has beat Louisville every year they've

545
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.640
played. I say that because there
was one year they didn't play because of

546
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.440
COVID. The Lite huad to meet
Kentucky since twenty seventeen, Lamar Jackson's last

547
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.039
year. So I mean i'd also
be yeah, I would also hate the

548
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.160
fact that they would not give Louisville
a chance to get right. And you

549
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.319
know, even this thing out a
little bit more in the last ten years

550
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.039
or so, So I don't know, I just cannot see it, even

551
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.920
though they've been again pretty pretty open
about how it would be a really tough

552
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.079
decision as far as what they would
do. I mean, I think Barnhart

553
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:22.159
has said exactly that Stoops kind of
echoed what Barnhart said when he was asked

554
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.880
about it a couple of years ago. I think, even though they've said

555
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.320
that, I just can't I cannot
see a scenario where they just decide not

556
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.559
to play Louisville anymore. So maybe
it's just something we worry about when it

557
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.119
actually happens, because I can't see
it happening. But then again, you

558
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.320
know, maybe if that was the
case, maybe they would just come out

559
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.599
and say it. I don't know, all right, sticking with the SEC

560
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.719
what I want to do. On
the other side, I want you guys

561
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:52.360
to hear Lane Kiff and just absolutely
body bag Paul Finebaum. And it's good

562
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.039
stuff because it's not something you typically
hear from an SEC coach on the SEC

563
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:04.159
network with the biggest SEC honk in
Paul Finebaum. But it reminded me why

564
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.039
I like Lane Kiffin so much,
And it's because one, he's kind of

565
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.519
a character, but more than anything, like, he's not He didn't have

566
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:15.320
a crazy personality. He's not out
there acting like a fool and cracking jokes

567
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.440
like he actually very rarely shows emotion
in any setting, in an interview,

568
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.719
in a post game, whatever it
may be, on the sideline, but

569
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.519
he's really, really transparent, and
I felt I could feel the tension between

570
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.880
him and Finebaum and it was great. So we'll get to that and a

571
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.559
lot more stick with us. It's
coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's on

572
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.280
Sports Talk seven ninety so probably around
four point thirty. I'll let you guys

573
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.360
hear some of what Pat Kelsey had
to say when he talked to season ticket

574
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:44.280
holders at the Selectest Seat event.
It's not a full length thing. It's

575
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.920
a couple of minutes of him talking
about his staff and what they were really

576
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:52.400
going after whenever they were trying to
put together their first team here at Louisville,

577
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.719
and a lot of praise to the
fan base. And you know that

578
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.480
stuff's not usually needed, but hey, it never hurts. And given the

579
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:04.519
fact that I'm not sure the previous
regime really cared much about anything, to

580
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.280
be honest with you, so again, Pat Kelsey, he's having a hell

581
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.880
of a summer and he's doing his
part right now, His part technically is

582
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.159
to win and we won't be able
to see any results for a while.

583
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:20.360
But until then, man, he's
transparent, he's accessible, and all it's

584
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.679
doing is getting fans more and more
excited. And we needed that. We

585
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.400
needed to be injected with some genuine
excitement and enthusiasm for the future after the

586
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.119
last few years. And again that's
not me telling you he's gonna go win

587
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.480
thirty games in year one. Who
knows how it's all gonna work out.

588
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.920
You'll never know until you get there. But until then, it's been fun.

589
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.199
And give him a lot of credit, all right. So I remember

590
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.400
right before Louisville played Ole Miss in
the Chick fil A Kickoff Classic, and

591
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:53.239
I believe sat second till last year
maybe. And Lane Kiffin, I mean,

592
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.199
he's a character within college football,
right, Joey Freshwater. I mean

593
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.639
his time at BAM as an assistant, I feel like was when he really

594
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.079
kind of became like this, you
know, this character type of guy really

595
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.159
just because the stories you heard,
nothing anything crazy that he did. But

596
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.320
you know, I remember him in
Oakland trotting out his kicker to kick a

597
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.480
seventy five yard field goal, which
is still hilarious to this day. I

598
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.280
remember when he was at Tennessee and
he was cheating his ass off and was

599
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.239
there what one year before he took
the job at USC. Usc just kind

600
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.519
of fell flat and he got fired, landed on Saban staff, really resurrected

601
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.440
his career working for Nick Saban and
Alabama turned that into a gig with Fau

602
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.119
and then of course got the Old
Miss job. And right now Ole Miss

603
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:42.079
is in promposition to be a team
that can now realistically say no, we

604
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.360
can, let's let's go get it
done. We can make the playoff.

605
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.920
There's twelve teams to get in now, not for we've got momentum, let's

606
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.519
go do it. So he's he's
doing really well and I've always liked him,

607
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.599
but whenever Louisville played him in that
Ole Miss game, I remember thinking,

608
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.239
like, man, why is this
guy? Like there's not a there's

609
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:01.920
not sound bites, there's not clips
from him, Like there's really not a

610
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whole lot out there that like really
matches the level of you know, him

611
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.079
being this. I mean, he's
a well known guy within college football,

612
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.360
but he's never really won anything.
Crazy, it's just because he's I mean

613
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:15.360
is it even I'm not even even
sure if it's fair to say that he's

614
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a character. But at ole Miss
he's been pretty funny on social media.

615
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.039
I think he has a good sense
of humor, but when he talks to

616
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the media or really in any interview
setting, he's pretty dry. But you

617
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.000
know, he makes up for it
because he's gonna say whatever. He really

618
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thinks he's gonna be transparent, and
he made it quite clear that he's not

619
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.800
a big fan of Paul Finbaum earlier
today when he was on the SEC Network

620
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.480
talking to mister finn Baum and this
is about a men in twenty seconds,

621
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.760
and I think it's worth hearing because
you know, fine Baum, I don't

622
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.280
even really know where this whole thing
started as far as where they started the

623
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.880
conversation. But lank Kiffin was well
aware of some things that were said about

624
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.360
Lane Kiffin earlier in his career.
You wanted him to know about it.

625
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.039
I'll steal your line, but I
was going through a deep depression over this

626
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:14.159
incorrect guilt that you tried to lay
on me, which preceded that move had

627
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.119
something to do with southern California.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, when

628
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.280
you got me fired at U.
See, I got myself fired at you.

629
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.880
See, but you didn't have a
better story if I got you fired.

630
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.639
You really didn't because it is a
true story that the athletic director and

631
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.840
the president were on that trip.
We were playing that night and you were

632
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.719
on college game day and you had
to make your big splash, and they

633
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.239
were watching it because I know the
other person in the room that was watching

634
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.760
it with them, and you said
what a joke I was, And I'm

635
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.719
the mile League Cyrus of college football
coaching, and I should be fired,

636
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.719
and they looked at each other,
and later that night I was fired,

637
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:51.440
by the way. So but hey, look what happened. I would never

638
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.519
got to work for coach Saban.
All these other things wouldn't happen. So

639
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.880
I appreciate you for helping getting me
fired. Thank you. Look at look

640
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.840
at what you're doing today. You're
predicted to go to the player and look

641
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.239
at Miley Cyrus. She had nice
comeback. I mean, you couldn't be

642
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.400
done with that, So really,
I don't really know what you're good at.

643
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.599
Like you predicted that coach Saban has
done that, it didn't happen.

644
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.719
He basically said Miley Cyrus stinks and
she's still she's still going. Yeah.

645
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:23.400
Anyway, it's always great to be
ridiculed by Wayne Kiffin here. I mean

646
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.840
he's like, I don't even really
know what you're good at well, and

647
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.320
it's just I mean, he's giving
the the he's giving facts that he knows

648
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:36.280
that his bosses were influenced by Lane
Kiffin or by I'm sorry, Paul Finenbaum,

649
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.880
essentially cutting a promo on Kiffin as
far as being a clown and a

650
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.000
guy that you know, he's the
Miley Cyrus of And by the way,

651
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.599
Miley Cyrus I don't know chevroll.
I mean, didn't she kind of disappear

652
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.000
for a little while, like I
don't know, just off the rails.

653
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.519
Yeah, but like she she didn't
get to a point where she was putting

654
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.159
out failed music. I think anytime
she's been focused on music, she's been

655
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.760
super successful. She's a very good
artist. But I just don't like a

656
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:07.599
lot of coaches wouldn't even have that
conversation with Fon bamb publicly privately because of

657
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.960
their ego, because don't get me, you better not, you know,

658
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.800
they would they would tell there they're
a I mean, coaches have a power

659
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.360
trip man like. It's just quite
clear that a lot of coaches have a

660
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.920
power trip, and maybe it's justified. I don't know, but like,

661
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.119
I think a lot of sec coach, especially those that have the momentum that

662
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.760
Lane Kifn has right now, would
tell their sad before they leave to go

663
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.000
to Dallas, you better not put
me next to Paul Fonbaum. I'll punch

664
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.440
his ass for what he did to
me. You had, Like coaches are

665
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.400
wired like that, dude, and
they take themselves so serious. And I

666
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.239
think that's actually, now that I
think about it, that's pbably the best

667
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.840
way to describe Lane Kivin. He
does not take himself too serious, and

668
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.320
I think that's a very very great
quality in anybody. Now you can't be

669
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.920
a total clown. But he's not. Like again, he doesn't take himself

670
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.039
too serious. But it's not as
if he's out here just yucking it up.

671
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.559
I've seen him maybe smile five times
ever. Like it just he's what

672
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.239
you see is what you get.
And who's more of a character. I

673
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.039
know. Mike Leach is long not
long gone, He's been passed away for

674
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.000
over a year now. Mike Leach
is a is the definition of a character

675
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.000
within College twelve because of all,
because of his shenanigans, his stories,

676
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.400
his his his weird quarks. I'm
not sure if Lane has that. He's

677
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.519
just I don't know, but I
feel like Mike Leach if he was sitting

678
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.679
down talking with fine Ball having a
similar conversation, he wouldn't have had a

679
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.519
problem kind of body bagging him as
well. No, you're right, that's

680
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.480
a good point, and he was. He was a rare, rare guy.

681
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:22.760
And I mean that in a good
way as far as just you know,

682
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.559
sometimes it's nice a breath of fresh
air for these guys not to be

683
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.440
football robots, you know what I
mean. All Right, we got two

684
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:30.840
hours left. We're gonna get the
second hour, the four o'clock hour that

685
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.320
has started with the one, the
only David Hale of ESPN who covers the

686
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.440
ACC We'll get his thoughts on this
drama with the league and see if he's

687
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.280
got any insight us to you know, how this thing they play out.

688
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.719
So I stick with us again,
It's Coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's

689
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