Come on, come on, hey, everybody, welcome to the Challenge.
This goddamn fucking show. That's how you really feel. The music for me
didn't start till ten seconds in. Oh same, What a piece of ship.
Hey, everybody welcome, it's another episode for a brand new season.
I'm super excited about the Challenge, the search for a new champion. As
always, I am buying sitting in work in his car, so hopefully his
boss isn't listening. Zachie Bananas and I just saw a stunk house at my
window. Nice actually be trapped in his car all night and doing her nails
at the same time and doing the show. It's our favorite Minnesotan. I
am not Minnesotan Carl and San Diego Tim is not here. He had a
bunch of long laundry list of excuses of why he didn't want to show up
tonight. Really it's he. He had a lot of fun guilt tripping zach
and I last week about how he was the only person on the Challenge on
the podcast last season that didn't miss a single day and now he's missing the
very first one. Yeah, what a piece of shit. So everybody make
sure y'all got Tim's phone number because he just hands it out to everybody.
Just text him, tell me he's a piece of shit for not showing up.
So sounds like good by his house, knock on his door address multiple
times last episode two, steal his WiFi password everything. Yes, hey,
everybody head every challenge pot dot com joined the Facebook group. You can also
join our patreon, which I'll talk about later. And yeah, I don't
know so from what everybody has said. There was an episode zero, which
I did not watch, which seemed to have a lot more going on than
the usual episode zero. Yeah, so I guess I should actually pay attention
and stop doing my nails for my Halloween costume. There was an episode zero,
and it was kind of In previous seasons, the episode zero has been
just a big house party, get to know people that you haven't met before,
that sort of thing, and this one was not that. So I
do have notes on episode zero. It should have just been episode one.
Do a quick rundown of stuff we need to know. Yeah, so quick
rundown. It starts at TJ's house. You get to see his house unless
Yeah, he's got all of his trophies off, the he's got against the
wall. Yeah, it was MTV cribs. He's got a big giant dirt
biking or dirt jumping bike track out back. It's pretty impressive. He calls
all of the all of the conquitations around it, all the competitors to tell
them that they made it onto season thirty nine. Banana's answers for Mariaho he
was, he answered, and he was mad at TJ for calling Mariah and
not him. Interesting, uh huh. And then it cuts to all the
challenges showing up at the arena. So they walk into the end of the
arena like they do in many other seasons, where they walk in and hey,
this is the challenge walking here, blah blah blah blah blah. But
TJ's not there. TJ is back at his house in Croatia hanging out playing
guitar and saying that he hopes that it doesn't rain. And the challengers then
stand in the arena for what seems like an hour, just standing there.
But there's like stuff for a game out in the arena, and they're standing
there looking at the crew, crews looking at them. They're looking at the
crew. They're asking the crew, should we be doing anything? And the
crew just gives them a So finally Cory and Michelle right, and Michelle,
they walk out. Yes that was more to Zac because I'm pretty sure he's
watched it. They finally walk out into the arena to be like, well,
maybe we should go and read these signs, and no one stops them,
so then it's just the damn breaks and everybody runs out into the arena.
Big T's upset because she's in heels and they're running around on sand.
So they have to play. They have to do a whole challenge where one
of them is there's a box that they have to fill with sand that they
pull up with their hands. Another one they have to dig in a big
roped off area for the code for a lock. And then the third one
they have to get a bunch of tiles that are inside this other box that
are only accessible through chicken wire. They have to get all of these tiles
out that have names on them, and the number of names equals the combo
for the lock. Did your dog just get the zuomies? Yes she did.
She's trying to get me to play with her ball. She's very excited
right now. Uh, nice, speedy. So they have three boxes they
can unlock, and they find out that they're camping in the arena for the
night. One of the boxes has cots, one of them has sleeping bags,
and the third one, of course has alcohol, because why was anything
else. And then they they proceed to open up multiple bottles of champagne and
like end of a race, spray them all over everyone and the cots.
I would have been fucking livid because they don't have a change of clothes,
they are sleeping outside for the night, and you have just sprayed my bed
and me with champagne. Yeah, we're old. We wouldn't have enjoyed this
experience. Corey says that he knows Hiwie that says he's used to his bed
being wet all the time. It was a funny comment. I appreciated that.
Yeah, I mean, I enjoy camping, I just don't want to
camp in wet. Yeah. So yeah, there's you know, lots of
lots of talk between everybody. It's basically, I mean, and then the
rest of the episode is just talk between everybody. At one point in time,
it cuts to TJ and the h He mentions that the the champs are
going to be there at some point in time, and that he kind of
does a quick run through on the game. They do quick shots of all
of the champs. Carl Maria says that the only reason she comes back is
to ruin someone, which I appreciated. She looks real sucond again, took
real fucking good. I'm trying to read my notes. If there's anything else.
Oh, big T gives the speech. Her speech is, this is
a revolution. Everyone is equal and every voice matters. Tomorrow we go to
war, so let's have some fun tonight. And apparently the only reason she
came out of retirement was because she and Melissa are good friends. And Melissa
told her that she was coming because big T went to culinary school, right,
did she really? I didn't know that. That's why. That's why
she decided she was done with the challenge. She was culinary school and she
was going to go be a big time chef. Gotcha? They do.
At one point in time, I mean, Tim's nut here, but he
would appreciate this. At one point in time, they show Nourice and Jay
at Nourse's apartment and they call Nelson, So we do get a shot of
Nelson. A feeling that this is going to be the only way that we
see him on the Challenge going forward is he's on an iPhone screen and they
do a quick run through on what his accident was and all that sort of
thing. But yeah, the rest of the night is just a bunch of
pola dicking. Uh. Michelle is heavily flirting with Callum. They oh.
TJ says that he's going to introduce some of the best Challenge Challenge champs around,
and then it proceeds to go to like Casey and Tory and Devin like
these none of these people are the best challengers around. If you're going for
like Challenge greats, Carl, Maria, Jordan, Durrell, CT Laurel,
they all fall into those categories. I mean, it might be a hot
take vibing question if Darrell falls in that category anymore. I'm being I don't
think that Darrell falls into that category anymore. I think he's lost too many
times now. But I'm I'm being generous with his name. I think that
he falls in that category more than someone like Casey or Tory. But and
that's purely because of his longevity on the game. So but that's it.
That's it. That's the that's the whole thing. They all fall asleep in
the arena and then cut to the next day. So it sounds it sounds
like I didn't really miss anything then, No, I mean it was it.
It was more of more of an actual episode than we have seen in
years past. But and I enjoyed seeing the tour of TJ's house and also
seeing him call the people to tell them they made the final cast, which
I'm assuming he probably has never done before in his life. Yeah. I
kind of felt like Tim when I was watching that part and was like,
I don't give a shit about this. I don't care about any of your
backstories. I don't care about your families. I don't care. I don't
care. I do not care. I don't want to see you getting called
by TJ when you have probably already been called by production to say, hey,
we are agreeing to this. Here, come and sign this contract.
Like interesting? All right, Well that was episode zero zero. Where do
we start off? Where does we start off with? Episode one? All
right? So episode one of Challenge season thirty nine back on MTV. The
Challenge or the episode is called Teamwork Makes the Perfect Work. Uh yeah,
So we start out in the arena, all of the challengers are waking up
and they have just you. If you came straight into this without watching episode
zero, then you wouldn't know that they just played a challenge. You'd probably
sitting there going, why the fuck are they all here? Ye, I
had no idea. I don't understand why they why they split these two.
It doesn't make any sense to me, Like, just have them do like
a pre challenge and show them whatever. It doesn't make sense to me,
But that's fine. Just do a three hour episode because since we're back on
MTV, it means everything is back to ninety goddamn minutes. Yeah, you
know, we we were text all of us were texting back and forth during
this episode. And after the last twelve thirteen episodes of this past season being
an hour long, quick and easy and just great little like concise episodes,
this ninety minutes felt really long. Kay says I, Like, I kind
of liked the ninety minute episodes. Oh no, not a fan so much.
In this episode, we could have trimmed out. It just made a
nice, sleek, hour long episode. Yeah, and we still would have
gotten a lot of this. It was a lot of the same drama over
and over and over and over again. But all right, so everybody wakes
up. TJ comes across loud speakers, and then they shows up in the
arena and says, okay, everybody, welcome to the challenge. Go get
changed and meet me at your first at the first challenge. He then explains
the game. Hold on, hold on, we didn't get there, all
right, I smack did Carlin's already forgetting how the show works? Well,
you know, it's fine, my first official season on MTV, I have
I have an excuse there you go. Sure that works. Plus I'm doing
Tim's job, so you know it's true named Tim gon yep. Okay,
So this year's game or this season's game, there is only going to be
one winner, which what do you guys think about this? It's fine,
they've done it before. I like it, you know. I mean,
we generally do the one male, one female, so it's it's nice to
mix it up, you know, for a change. Yeah, you know,
I I have mixed feelings on it. I like the one winner,
but at the same time, I feel like I feel like it we end
up in the same issue, the same with the same pitfalls that we've had
in games. Where they don't punish the losers, where like one person wins
and then everybody just kind of gives up. And that's my only issue with
games like this is that it and it really only shows it in the very
end of this season. It shows it in the finale where when there's only
one winner, the moment that that person has crossed the finish line, then
everybody just gives up. And I kind of want to see everybody else compete
until they hit the end. But that's amazing. Case says she would like
to see a team so we get more chams. I feel like I want
the opposite of that. I feel like, especially in a season like this
where it's all like kind of newer players than non champs, you shouldn't.
It's already like an easier route to become a champ than previously, I believe,
so we shouldn't be rewarding multiple people for, you know, an easier
road to victory. I agree with that, it's a title they got to
earn this season. Yeah, Like I wouldn't mind if it were a male
and a female winner. I would be okay with that, But for this
format specifically, I don't necessarily mind the one winner. All right, so
prize pot it starts at thirty K, and it's like crickets when TJ announces
that three K, sorry three hundred K? Did I say thirty K?
We're back, We're back in the early two thousands. Don't worry about it.
Thirty K is your big prize. Everybody gets a buy Razor scooters and
what year of Well, so three hundred K. The prize money is three
hundred K right now, but they have the chance to get it up to
five hundred K, which I kind of like, Yeah, I thought we
were going to have I thought we were going to have individual bank accounts again,
which I was kind of yeah, excited for. But I like the
individual bank accounts, especially when you can win someone else's bank account. But
I think with the mercenaries coming in, I don't know if they'd be able
to do that. I really want to know if the mercenaries are able to
steal any money, because that would be cool. I mean it kind of
sounds like it, but yeah, from my heart, they are able to
steal money. I just don't know if they can steal it below three hundred
because that would be amazing if they could like knock it all the way down
to one hundred k. Yeah, that'd be neat. So the game is
split into three different sections. The first one is control, where they all
work in one big group and they're earning money. The second is chaos,
which is groups or pairs for chaotic situations. That's where this is the section
where they're going to end up competing against the champs and they're fighting to keep
the full prize pot. And then the third is Conquest and it's an individual
game and they can earn more money. So it makes me wonder like,
if they don't get up to that five hundred k during the first section,
can they still get it back up to that five hundred k in the third?
So probably because they like to do stuff that doesn't matter, like red
skulls on your helmet, Yeah, bullshit like that, it turns on Oh
now, well it doesn't actually matter, doesn't actually matter. I feel like
we're gonna be very cynical this season. We're gonna get a lot of reviews
saying, probably are these guys doing this podcast when none of them seem to
like this game. Probably I'm not a big fan of this episode. Well,
I think I'll be the positive life because I enjoyed it. I already
think the descriptions too complicated. We're splitting it up into three layer, three
sections or whatever, and I'm just like, what is going on? So
I'm somewhat unclear are the three sections? And maybe you guys will be able
to clear this up. Are they three different sections? Is in like the
first third of the game they're playing in control, the second third they're playing
chaos, the third they're playing in conquest. So we're not going to see
any of the challenge. The champs show up until a third of the way
through this game, from what I've From what I've heard, they don't understand.
People have said, I don't understand why MTV's promoting this so much because
they all show up in like one episode. So I don't know it's gonna
be interesting. I guess the easy way I remember Wolfe thinking about the first
third of the game is like the first half a Survivor, where it's teams,
and then after that we get to the individual I guess. But it's
just like Jesus Christ like so much like you just dump an info like,
oh, this is everybody's got to work together this section. Everybody's gonna be
teamed up or however it goes, and then everybody's gonna be on their own.
Blah blah blah blah blah. What's gonna be? I feel like it's
all over the place already. WHOA, Sorry, I got distracted. A
girlfriend of mine is at a bar in Denver and just met Jason Momoa.
Nice fucking aquaman. That's so cool? Is that really him? Or is
that just a guy that looks like him when she's drong? Oh no,
that is straight up called drogo. Okay, I would have not recommend that.
I'm super jealous right now. Sorry, coming back kidding me. If
Carl would have met Jason Momoa tonight, she would have not shown up for
the show. Would not have she would not be showing up Frosstralia either.
She'd be like, I'm suddenly very interested in Hawaii. I don't know why.
Hey, I have spent a lot of time in Hawaii, so I've
only been there once. I love Hawaii. It's great, all right,
Getting back to the to the challenge. Hey, Okay, so the first
game, the first challenge is called Hole Control. I must have miss the
name Margo. I think Margo needed to be out. I completely miss that.
Yep. So they have ten minutes to do this challenge and it is
worth fifty dollars. So as a team, they have to run into a
pit, gather a bunch of poles, get all of the poles and all
of the people out of this pit by going up very steep, very slippery
walls, kind of like the military challenges where you have to get a bunch
of people up and over those wooden walls. But the pit is the bottom
of the pit has water in it, so it's muddy and slippery and people
are falling all over each other. And then once they get all these poles
out of the pit, they have to put them together in a puzzle and
they have to do all of that in ten minutes. Yeah, so uh,
Kieran gets volunteered VOLUNTEERLD to be captain. Sure, and it starts by
them saying we're gonna get the women out first, and then we're going to
do the men, and the women are going to start solving the puzzle as
we're getting the rest of the guys out. YEPA it does, I mean
it does make sense to me too, because the women tend to be smaller
and lighter, so get them out of the way, and the guys are
going to be heavier, so we need more guys to be able to pull
the other guys out. Maybe they needed the women to pull some of the
guys out. I mean maybe, I don't know. I don't see the
ladies pulling the J out of there at the end, I don't see the
guys pulling J out of there. Jay is like the lightest one there and
they're like, I can't pull them up. The ladies this season are all
relatively small too, Like they are significant, significantly smaller than even some of
the women that we had on USA this season. Yeah, there's a bunch
of a bunch of popcorn muscles on this team, is what it seems like.
Yes, four dudes to pull somebody up, all right, So the
puzzle is a bunch of polls that when you guys looked at the puzzle,
did you automatically know that it was going to be the challenge logo? Yeah?
I didn't know, but I assume so. Yeah. No, I
mean like it was to me. It was so obvious because you had a
you had a bar at the top, and then you had a big,
giant something that people seem to almost instinctively know were letters and then a bar
at the bottom, like automatically, and they do the challenge everything that is.
You may have been taking notes, but I believe they showed like a
whole finished version of it as you have to. Yeah, yeah, I
totally missed that. Yeah, I my alse my other thing. And maybe
this just comes from watching the challenge and obviously doesn't come from competing in it,
or at least not for these people. But I think that Johnny and
Wes and any of the previous challengers would have looked at this and gone,
Okay, cool, we need to do all of this on the ground first.
Maybe not, Johnny Wes would have definitely we need to do this on
the ground first, get everything in order, and then put it up once
so you're not trying to put the poles in and then take the poles out,
and then put the poles in and then take the poles out. That's
what I was wondering. Why they didn't do it on the ground first.
Oh yeah, the very first thing they did was oh, this looks like
an a it should go right here. No, do it on the ground.
That way, you don't have to pick it up out of that straight
up out of that hole, and then yeah, too much work, yep,
lots work. Yeah, the women start working on the puzzle. They
keep getting things mixed up, people are moving things. Time is counting down,
and finally they get to just about a minute and as TJ says that
you have one minute left, they finally get the last guy out of the
pit and they run over thinking like, hey, we're almost done, We're
gonna finish this and realize that it's just absolute chaos at the puzzle. Yeah.
So then everybody's trying to get the last few pieces in. They get
the last few pieces in as TJ Ring does the buzzer, and there's no
celebration because they don't know if they've done it right. Yeah. I've been
It looked like it could have potentially been done correctly, but I looked at
it and like, I see three different places where it's not done correctly.
Goose Force showed up just to say they should have let Anisa be on this
season. Shots fired, Yeah, definitely shots fired. Oh that was one
thing that in episode zero, Big Team mentions that she has the most challenges
under her belt, like the most season under her belt out of the entire
cast. Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't think that she had that
many under her belt to be able to claim that because she's been on what
four, She's only done four? Yeah, Michelle's done three three, including
USA, I believe. So yeah, okay, interesting. I don't know
if they would have been able to pull Aniss out of that pit though,
mm hmm. For shame, Zach, I'm just saying Tim's not here to
back you up on that one. Me and Carl are just gonna shake our
head and shame. I think she could have climbed to get him out of
it. But what about FESSI FESSI wouldn't got up that either. Josh sure
wouldn't be able to. No, he would have had he would have had
a better chance than though I don't know. I don't feel like Josh coordinated
enough to be able to pull himself out of there. Coordination, yes,
but suddenly out of nowhere, Josh has the better athletic build than which is
insane to me. Yep. But yeah. So they line up at the
end of this and TJ says, well, you guys got everybody out,
but you didn't do the puzzle correctly. So no fifty dollars for you and
everybody's defeated boom During the challenge, I did notice we have a new boob
shirt. Mariah is wearing it. I kind of assumed that that would be
the very first thing that you guys would pick up on. But I don't
think I even noticed. I subconscious eness like, I didn't pick up on
it. But now that you mentioned, I'm like, oh, yes,
I know exactly what we talked about. Yes, she did, yep,
new boob shirt. Also, Asuf is already really annoying. Yeah, he
talks too much. Come on, team team, teamwork makes the perfect word
perfect the something. I don't remember what else he said. Yeah, he's
said a lot. Was he gonna say more like team uh, team Joseph
Joseph Super super Bros. So yep, which is interesting because Jay sent him
home in the last challenge she was in. He said he had to choice.
All right, So we head back to the house just uh so we
get the We get the everybody running into the house, but they're more like
quickly tiptoeing because it's raining and it looks very slippery on all those tiles.
We get another another scene where there are people as off is like spraying and
pouring champagne all over the floor, which again we just I'm too old,
Like it would be so mad onea's waste of good champagne too. You got
the ship everywhere casas the same house as USA? Was it really entirely possible?
I just totally did not notice. We get another toast. Jay gives
this one. It's very Johnny Banana esque, Yeah, Jay Banana, and
we get no, don't you dare? Don't you dare? You know what's
going to be really great about this season is that Bananas is not on it
yet. Is any one of the mercenaries? Oh yay. I was not
aware the whole season, but Bananas, it's it's so great, so great,
the happiest you've been all episode right, I mean I think that cured
my sickness. It's great. I mean we did see in episode zero he
showed up when Anti Carlo collinswin Mariah's phone, and I think there's a good
chance we see him again this season when Ria is a call home. Yeah,
but I mean doing a call home is doing a call home? He
is not part of this season. Yeah, Like like Goose Force says in
the chat Bananas is the challenge? Is he though he is? He's like
he's like the Rock of the WWE like he has now got to a point.
You did the challenge. Johnny does not need the challenge. The challenge
needs Johnny. How dare you low? Do you say it doesn't mean it's
more true it is? Don't uh, don't compare Johnny Bananas to the Rock
people's champ You're right, the Rock never won seven genuinely good person? Did
you say the Rock has never won seven championships? Not world championships? Now
you sure? I think he's a only a four or five time campaign.
So you know he's he's West level West only two. He's CT level best.
He's not Banana's level. Well, I'll find out. Continue on carlying
goodness, it's not part of the season. I'm very excited. K points
out Rock has way more money than Johnny does. She does. That is
true, way more money and is much more famous and much more liked.
But you know what, has he ever taken a good guy? Anyway?
So back in the house, uh, Berna, you see herself isolating,
she's crying. It is the first episode. We're like ten minutes in and
she is in her bed, crying because she didn't get the room that she
wanted to be in. Yeah, she's the worst. She's annoying me.
Yeah. I really wanted to like her her first season, and then she
became clingy and weird to see CT and I don't know, I'm not gonna
I have a feeling I'm not gonna like her very much this season. Zach,
Yes, the Rock is a ten time world champion. Yeah, oh
that's just great. Oh I did write down that I feel like Berne is
gonna be the Lolo Jones of this season. It is possible. She's not
starting off on a good fit. She's already, like you said, self
isolating. She's crying fifteen minutes into the first episode, crying over what bed
she got. Uh like when she was in when they were we didn't really
talk about when they were in the pit. And she's an acrobat, so
she knows how to do shit, and she was trying to explain to people,
know, if you squat down, we can use your hips as like
a thing and then get up on the shoulders and it makes it way easier
to be a lot quicker. And nobody's listened to her I felt bad for
her because I'm like, she probably knows what she's talking about. Everybody should
probably shout the fuck up. But after that she started to get really annoying.
We have a lot of very headstrong people in this house. It's gonna
be a really That's why I kind of like this, like doing it as
a big group thing, because it's gonna be it's gonna be really entertaining.
I really don't know if they're gonna win any extra money in this first section
to see if they can all play together or not, but we'll see.
Let's see. Uh oh. Then we have big Tea talking about how she's
she doesn't have a master plan. But then she starts talking about her alliances
and she's aligned with almost everybody in the house, and the super imposed Wess's
face on hers was great. I thought of you, Zach, I thought
you might like that a little bit. Yeah, that's all right. They
were making fun of Wes. Yeah, Lessay is pretty good, but he
likes over it. Goodness, Carl's brain just started leaking out of her ears.
I know you and cross eyed for a second there. Yeah, And
then she starts talking about how she does actually have a master plan, and
her master plan is to get a boy out and she wants a woman,
a woman to win the game. I don't know how well that's gonna work.
But how do you feel about this master plans as the lone woman on
the show? I mean, I agree, I would like a woman to
win, because there are definitely more male winners than there are female, and
especially on the games where there's only one winner. I mean, Carra was
the first one to do it, but I feel like every time after that,
it's been a dude. But I mean it so far though, like
I don't I don't know how many of these women actually have a like a
real fighting chance against these guys, because, like I said, all of
these women are really small, yeah, very petite, and they might be
like they might be very athletic and what not, but I think in compare
in in competition with these dudes, it's gonna be really difficult for them.
Yeah. We saw me like the old school seasons when they did the big
team formats that you know a lot of the men, you know, would
work together to throw challenges just to get rid of the women because they were
the weak links on the team. And I think for this first third of
what they thought links. Yes, that's what they cannot always the weak links.
But I think this first third of the challenge where every week, if
they're doing like a team activity, I could see the men kind of you
know, reverting back to that where they're like, hey, we're we're the
strong, big men. It's the women they're holding ustack successful totally they started
doing in this episode. Yeah, so I think we might see so I
think we might see a run for the first third of the season of just
woman after women going home. Yeah. It makes me wonder whether they're actually
going whether the game like what whether the producers and TJ will allow that,
like if they'll allow just woman after woman after a woman to go home,
or if it really is in the hands of the challengers and they can choose
to do it if they want. Yeah, maybe next week they're going to
say they have to pick a dude to go in instead. Yeah, because
they've definitely done that in seasons past where they kind of give them the give
them the floor for the first episode, but then that sets the tone for
the later ones of Okay, you guys picked a girl the first time,
then now you have to pick up a boy. So it'll be interesting to
see how the rest of the season goes, because Yeah, I could definitely
see them reverting back to oh, women are the weak links, we have
to send them home. Yep, definitely already starts happening in this episode.
Yeah, the majority of this middle section is is just yes, yeah,
we get and being like, let's get a woman out, and all the
men seem really united on the this idea, and the women are torn between.
The women are just yeah, it makes no sense to me. No,
it makes no sense to me either, Like you may not like the
other women that are there, but you should automatically be trying to get a
dude out if you're a woman. I don't know why any of them thought
any different. Yeah, so it's it. We have more just house politics
back and forth of what's going on. Michelle and Callum are flirting, which
this seems to be a big flot point in this episode. She does ask
him point blank are you in a relationship and he says no, no,
And then you see the girlfriend who says I love to ten seconds later on
the on the on the FaceTime with the girl back home, Yeah, and
he said he was in a situationship where it's just like, well it was
like three weeks before I left, and blah blah blah whatever, I love
you. In a situationship, someone tells you they love you in three weeks,
run run for the hills. Well, on top of that, if
it's a situationship, he should have been able to call her and been like,
hey girl, I know we've been doing this for a few weeks,
but there's you know, there's just some shit that's happening, so I gotta
I gotta piece out by Yeah, not Olivia Olivia, Olivia Olivia taculator bye
let me kiss the screen multiple times? Ru I mean in episode zero he
did call it. He did say that in his early twenties he was the
biggest fuck boy on earth. In his mid twenties, he was a kind
of fuck boy, and now now that he's like twenty seven or twenty eight,
he's not really a fuck boy. I don't know that that's true that
I maybe he was. He has a different definition of that word, but
I don't think he knows what that word means. So h Ca says Callum
was on an f boy dating show in the UK. Oh well, yeah,
there you go. Makes sense. Do we feel like there was anything
exciting that happened between this and the deliberation other than Colleen is also annoying me
with I'm a psychologist. Yeah, I mean, but she's she's attractive enough,
well side all right, So deliberation it's my name, bitch. It's
a bunch of back and forth. It's literally the like from the moment they
end the challenge until the moment they get into the arena. It's like twenty
plus minutes of the same thing over and over and over and over and over
again. Of the guy is saying they want a girl, and of the
girls saying they want a guy, but then half of the girls saying they
want another girl they could have given us. Women are so dumb. Women
are so dumb. I'm saying on the show, not you, I'm down.
I'm saying, like, we we all agree out there. I just
flipped them off. Double yeah, I'm saying that, but I'm saying that
we all agree. Yeah. The women on the show are fucking morons like
should have been should have should have stuck together and be like, let's get
a guy out. Yeah, then next week let's throw another guy out and
then we'll have the numbers. We can do whatever the fuck we want.
So then if we start sending a girl in one week and then do another
two weeks of guys, like, we'll run this game. It would have
been it doesn't seem that hard. It would have been so easy to been,
like to walk around the house be like, hey, girl, can
can you come in this room real quick? We just all the girls we
want to talk real quick, just that we're all on the same page,
and then get in there and say, hey, look, we may not
all agree, we may all have issues with each other, but we need
to get a dude out this episode, and we need to band together and
focus on a single guy. The moment that we stay that guy's name,
it's just gonna snowball. And if we end up tying with them, then
who knows, maybe TJ will pick Yeah. There there are so many things
they could have done to make this go the opposite way. Jessica coming out
and just laying her shit all over the welcome Matt was less. Yeah,
like desperate is what the that purse out right there? K is saying.
Jessica did an interview. She said they edited out a fight between Jay and
Chauncey. Oh, well, it's good thing. It's a good thing they
left in all the other dumb bullshit we watched and not put that in,
which would be way more interesting. Yeah. So another thing from episode zero.
Apparently Chauncey and Amber's baby was born like literal days before he left.
Yep. Interesting. Yeah, so i'd be I'd be kind of surprised if
he was not running real high with emotions at the moment. For people at
home wondering, Carlin is painting her nails while she's doing this, so she
she is blowing on them. You can hear it. Sorry, I'm sorry.
I realize you could hear it. Now, It's fine. Some people
like, are they buy an ocean? Sorry, I didn't realize. I
thought I was part of a way that no one be able to hear it.
Sorry, I'm trying. I'm trying to get my nails to dry before
I go to bed. I apologize. That would annoy the shit out of
me if I were listening to this. Sorry, I didn't even notice it
because you were doing an all pre show and so it didn't even hit me.
It's all right now, Okay. They said the baby was two days
old. Oh' that's tough. Yeah, I don't know that I'd be okay
with my partner leaving me two days after I had our child to go to
a TV show that there's a very good chance he's not gonna win. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know that's some good motivation.
Though, maybe that's some good motivation, like I can't come home without half
a million dollars. I mean, Corey's shown up on this show how many
times. But I'm assuming Amber is not working right now. I don't know
what chance does for living. So maybe even if he doesn't win, just
you know, the weekly stipends will get them through until well. Amber also
didn't win what half a million dollars with c T, So that's true.
Yeah, but uh yeah, So it's a lot of that back and forth.
And other than Jessica just dumping our purse out all over the the welcome
Matt, there's not a whole lot interesting that goes on there, Oh except
for I really don't like this big British guy guy who kind of looks like
Ed, but I don't like him. No Jams, He's like, yeah,
tell me who fucked up? Everybody, tell me who fucked up.
I'll vote for that person. Yeah, I don't like what he seems like
a douche. So then we get to the eliminated Damn, I get it.
I get it. Systems not cooperating with me. Plame the system.
I see how it is. That's fine. I don't care. Blame me,
all right. So they all walk into the arena and everybody is dressed
to play because they don't know who's going on yet, which I do kind
of like, what do you guys think about this? I do like because
I'm all in them all yes, keep them guessing up till the very end.
Really hear people say, you know, it's like it's almost better to
be the nomination than like, you know, the random draw because you have
time to mentally prepare. So I like the idea that all of them don't
really have that chance mentally prepared. They're all shocked in the moment. Yeah,
I agree with that. I wonder what happens if they win, though,
Like if they if they win the challenge, I don't know, somebody
get voted like safety or I think, ooh that's interesting. Any think about
that. I would think it still worked the same, They would still like
all right, you still got nominated and get rid of someone. I don't
know. Hopefully we'll find out next episode. Yeah, oh that'll be that'll
be interesting. Oh Kay just says that. Also in the interview with Jessica,
she said that Jay turned the house against her. Jessica, how did
Jay turn the house against you? When you literally spent like ten minutes going
on a dia tribe about how you don't think you're gonna win, but if
you win, you're gonna give the money to charity. But really you just
want to help someone else win. But you don't want to be the first
one to go out, but you wouldn't be upset with the girl you put
yourself in there. Yeah, I don't know. So what did you guys
think about her saying that she was gonna give all the money to charity.
I think that's the load of bullshit. She's trying to make us sound like
she doesn't really care about the money whatsoever. Yeah, I came out of
her mouth. You full of shit? Bullshit? Yes, absolute bullshit.
Um. All right, so everyone is up for possible elimination, and the
voting is individual and in person. There's no secret voting. I have to
do it on the spot on the stage. So this, I mean,
this is this is where Johnny Bananas and Wes and all of them. This
is where they all thrive. This is what they say every season. You
say one name and everybody piles on it because it's just easier and you don't
make waves. So whoever's the first person? And this is this is where
if all of the women had sat down and said we are voting for a
dude, and Berna had immediately said Kiernan, every single woman after her would
have said Kiernan. And I wouldn't be surprised if the guys started saying Kiernan
too, because they don't want to make waves. Here's why I don't think
that would have happened, because ultimately we see Jessica ends up voting for herself.
But I think if it was like a twelve twelve vote, I don't
think Jessica's going to vote herself to make it tie. I think she sides
with the men and a woman still goes in. Really, she wasn't the
last vote though, No, I so I'm I'm thinking i'd honestly, I
think that it would have been different. I think it would have been if
Berna had said Kiernan and all of the women had gotten together and said we're
all going to go Kiernan and it would have been twelve women for Kiernan against
twelve men. I feel like there would have been I feel like they could
get someone like Huey to switch sides. Yeah, probably, I don't know.
I think the guys. I feel more faith those guys listed strong and
whichever woman was getting I mean with the way that they played. Yeah,
I agree with you, but in a perfect world. Yeah, we're just
pointing out that the women on the show are really dumb. It's just it's
ridiculous. It really shows that none of them. It shows the reason why
none of them have have won this game. They don't have the politics side
of this game down. Like not having any of the challenge bets in this
house is very apparent in situations like this. No, uh, okay wants
to know how we all felt that Berna said that Michelle is trustworthy. There's
so many people who says that she isn't. I don't know, and it's
kind of from Yeah, I mean, well we saw it in the last
season. She doesn't keep her word on stuff. I mean Michelle's I feel
like Michelle's always gonna be trustworthy of someone. It's just you that someone.
Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. M all right. So Jessica
gets voted in by almost everybody. She even votes for herself. Horasio does
make waves and he votes be Big Tea. What a dummy. What a
dummy, absolute moron. They don't make waves. Why are you doing this?
Don't make waves. I don't care if you're standing by your convictions.
Don't make waves. It's too early in the game and you're making too many
enemies already. So Jessica gets put down there and she says that she wants
to control her own game, which is why she voted for herself, and
TJ says, well, congratulations, you get to control your game. You
get to pick any woman up there. M hm. I kind of like
this. I kind of like this a lot. Yeah, I mean,
it's yeah, it's what they It's what every person wants when they go and
when they get voted in, they want to be able to pick her they're
going against I think it's fantastic and will be a twist at some point.
She picks Big Tea, so not my Big tea. I'm so happy to
see a big tea bag. It was, but she's already annoying me again.
She's just I love it. In episode zero, there's a whole,
like few minutes segment about everybody's trying to do all these different things, and
she's there screaming out instructions to people, and then she makes a comment like
you know that. I find this leadership comes very naturally to me. But
I don't think anybody's listening to me. No, they're not, so sorry,
big T. I just I found that entertaining. Okay, So the
actual game, the ladies are put up into these cages that are hanging above
the ground by like thirty feet, maybe not, but hanging up above the
ground. They have a glass bottom that has a bunch of tiles on it.
They have to throw all the tiles out of this cage and then use
a rope to pull up a hammer to break the bottom of the box,
and the first person to break the bottom of the box wins. The thing
that they don't say, at least I don't remember I'm saying, is that
the hammer is attached to a tug of war rope. So if you both
start going forward at the same time, at some point in time, you're
going to end up with that rope pretty tight and trying to pull the hammer
one way or the other. Ultimately, Big T gets the tug of war
rope and she breaks the bottom and she's done. And sentence wasn't even close.
No, it was very I thought there's gonna be I thought the tug
of warpart was going to come more into play. I also I thought all
the tiles there, like there was the there was a thing underneath them that
had like a weird pattern on it, And I thought the tiles were going
to be like you have to throw the tiles out and then you have to
break the bottom of this and you have to get down there and you have
to put all the tiles into a puzzle. Because this elimination went really fast,
Yep, it was not a very fast one. Greg points out the
Big T now was a better elimination record than Josh. I'm good at eliminations.
The dummy, Oh, we don't have to see him this season either.
It's great. Yeah, so far, so good, although he could
be on because he's still not a champion either. Yeah that's true, but
because he's a piece of ship. He's retiring. I hope so me too.
What do you guys think of the of the elimination? All right,
Like you said, it was super quick, and I thought there would be
more to it and there wasn't, so that made it kind of boring.
Yeah, Big T was luckily luckily it was quick one. Big T was
throwing the tiles out with both hands. Jessico was throwing him out with one
hand. Yeah. Melissa was on the sidelines, going absolutely nuts for Big
Tea. Yeah. I didn't realize they were such good friends. I'm kind
of happy because I liked Melissa too. Yeah. Yeah, it was.
It was an interesting It was not interesting. It was it was a quick
elimination. It was it was whatever. Yeah, bye bye, jess seems
like you didn't want to be here anyway, so TJ would say see you
later or hope, don't take care now. There it is. I love
that quote. Yeah's episode one. No need for it to be an hour
and a half. Jesus fucking Christ. Kay, thanks to the house versus
Big Team. Melissa's coming though, so we'll see it's possibility. Uh,
Kay says you all went through that quick. We did because there was a
lot of bullshit in this episode that didn't matter for anything. Yeah. So
yeah, I'm not impressed with this episode so far. See hopefully next episode
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who made it possible for us to have such a great weekend this past weekend.
It's very appreciated. We loved it all. I do have pictures that
I need to put together and put on the Facebook and wherever else, because
we had a great time. Unfortunately, none of the pictures have Wolf in
them because he was just there. We were taking pictures. We want Me
Me, Carlin and Tim went to dinner on Friday, and then I woke
up the next morning with my chest felt like it was filled to the brim
with jello. It was great. That is I don't know that everybody anyone
has ever said that before. That's quite just a scriptor. I'm just thinking
of a very thick like viscus. Oh yeah, no, I've got I
have an immediate I know exactly like viscerally, I know exactly that, and
it sort of popped up, popped up out of nowhere. I'm just like,
what the fuck just happened? So I stayed home and didn't get everybody
else sick. If you listen to the finale, you did hear me call
in and heard how miserable I fucking sounded. It was terrible. My voice
is still messed up. Hopefully by next week we'll see. Yeah, we
did. At one point in time earlier in the episode, when you when
you tried to call in to begin with, you came through on the computer
but not through our headphones. And I listened back to the first half of
the episode earlier today and at one point in time you hear it hello,
Hello, yeah, and then it cuts off. Oh because Tim, Tim
said say something, and so I did. It's just really funny because none
of us could hear you no, because you were going through the soundboard.
You weren't going through the program, which and I wasn't trying to do that.
I was just trying to hop into the audience and be a participant there.
But stupid app would let me, uh it like forced me to sign
in, which is not what I wanted to do so bad times. Case
says, you don't have a bowla, do you? I hope not.
Well, you're not bleeding out of your eyes, so I think you're okay.
Oh that's one of the symptoms. I don't know. I feel like
it is. No, I don't have a bowler. More likely I went
to a concert last Wednesday. That's more n likely what it was. I
picked it up from somewhere, which is why I thought it was COVID,
and it was terrified positive for COVID. I'm okay with it. I didn't
test positive, so you shouldn't so we'll see. Yep, here's happening.
You would have felt it by now. Good? Yeah, probably all right.
I think that's it for this first episode. We're going to come in
under an hour, which is miraculous. See MTV. Tim's not here.
He doesn't give a part. Get to be part of the under an hour
episode, right, next episode two hours long? Oh god, Ca just
said we have twenty two episodes. I forgot about it. Better not be
better. Well, it's back on MTV. They're ninety minutes long and they're
twenty two of them. God damn it. Fucker. All right, Well,
let's leave this episode on a down note. Thanks a lot. Finished
this season pie episode zero plus nineteen plus two reunions. Probably that makes sense,
all right, all right for this episode, there's been Brian, HM,
Carl and San Diego, both of us at the same time. Happy
Halloween, everyone, enjoy your your all hallows Eve and your Da de los
Morthos, be safe, enjoy all the candy, take chances, drive fast,
take chances, but drive fast dress and all kinds of crazy costumes.
Yes, very spooky Halloween. Everybody and his Big Tea set about horashio I
no longer find him hot.