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Disclaimer. We'd like to know before
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of Tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that

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of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.
You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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Hello, Hello, Darren de Friese
listening to us from his hospital bed.

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My boy, bro, that is
a dedicated listener, right Rofe,

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He is welcome. It might feel
a little crazy. I might say Get

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Insalty Experience podcast only, and that
brings the firehouse, get your table to

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you. I used to say this
in the past, but I'll say it

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again. You're gonna say it's the
best first responder podcast in the whole world.

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I'm just gonna say that self proclaimed. Are you're going out on the

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limon saying it's self proclaimed? Even
though film Gola tonight he's got a podcast,

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But everybody's got a podcast, everybody
in their grandmother's got a podcast,

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but ours is the best. I
might be a little boyased. You know,

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we got Gunzo and Mike and once
in a while we trip all a

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tank. He comes in every now
and again. Come here. Well,

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welcome back, guys. We missed
you. Sure, I'm gonna let the

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count out of the bag right now
because I got it. It was a

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big you know, give me a
second, Give me a second. We

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got a little scare. The boy
Roofy had to go for a procedure.

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We had a little health scare.
Yeahm truth be told. He had two

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blockages, blockages, blockages. He
had to go and you got a step

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now put in there too much?
Maybe they had too much Gobba gold baby.

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Maybe maybe just happy my boy's back. I was very worried. I

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was texting Rosie every couple of minutes
to make sure my boy was all right.

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My boy Blue. I actually said
a whole rosary for my boy the

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night before, had a lot of
prayers. Was good and uh he came

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out. He didn't do he didn't
go into the light. I was just

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hoping each stay away from the light, little buddy, stair away from the

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light, little buddy. I was
saying that the whole night, stay away

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from the light, little buddy,
stay away from the light. Please.

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I shot Robbie Brown, rob Brown
picking up guys. He's making more grams

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now than any guy on the job. Bro, should somebody should put in

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I'm gonnaut him in from I'm gonna
send him a soldier something right, Hey,

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he's got to get there. Well, they don't have to go in

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better at anymore. It he's got
He's making more stage that guy than Gabe.

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I'm sending the curtains to you.
Bro. Oh wait a minute,

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let me go. He hitting it
up on the curtains. But you know

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what, like we always preach it, I'm gonna say it later on in

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the Health and Safety tip of the
Day, Early detection, Roofy went for

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a full medical hold them back,
said he had a blockage, went in

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there and they rode over to him. Then he got old put a stent

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in there. Oh man, I
wish how that how you feeling? I

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feel good? Yeah? I mean
it. So, you know they throw

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out stent, you know, every
once in a while, you know,

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you hear that somebody went for a
stint. It's kind of like a quick

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yeah, I don't even think about
it anymore. But when you're laying on

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the slab and you're looking over at
the machine and you see the wire going

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through your heart, Wait a minute. Hold on, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, exactly. I got to
keep waking up, I keep saying all

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the time. Time, right,
yeah, yeah, the old tict.

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Yeah, you know he's a new
guy. Well, thank you, welcome

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Bedison Man coming in ship hot bro, listen, it's all I'm very mellow

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nowadays. I don't really get to
your ass. What I'm sorry he does,

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I don't know the old ruff.
He is mellow compared to the way

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he used to be back in the
day. As a matter of fact,

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my son came in today. He
goes the how's uncle switch doing? Well?

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Yeah, he's doing good. Switched
like a light switch. He goes

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on awful like a light switch.
Bro. Yeah, I haven't switched out.

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I don't really know. Pretty chill. Yeah. We haven't had a

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fight in a while either, so
we'll probably do for him. But all

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right, let's get to a commercial
here. Bro. All right, I

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say my condoles two for Gonzo lost
his uncle. I appreciate we thank you

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the old I hope at least ninety
two. I'll take it, but I'll

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sign off of that they do.
I hope I have his ninety two.

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And he was running around and so
I mean he had a stroke about a

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year ago and it you know,
he wasn't the right ever since that,

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but he was still running around to
ninety one years old. Man, have

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a full of hair. Uh.
He had a lot more than a little

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lesson I did, but he had
more heart of them. China runs in

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the gene and the Yeah, I'll
take eighty two for God's sake, That's

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what I said. That second have
eighty five, ninety, whatever I'll take.

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I gotta go piss that. My
mother's eighty five. I told you

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she's gotta be around for another fifteen
twenty years. I gotta have it around.

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That's why I try to exercise,
and like you said earlier, I

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go for my check up for every
six months. Man, I want to

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be around you know. Yeah,
you have grandkids. And what he told

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me, you go for the prosty
like every other week. Is that something

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that you enjoy? It's a anal
induced never mind, guys looking around like

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he's looking for lost changing. You
need a professional assistance milking the prostate.

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Yeah, anyway, all right,
let's take it. We gotta get We

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have a very interesting shelter tonight.
We have two guys coming together. We

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got a guy who was uh in
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say film goub of Goal Capadola and
we have a hot charger and Chris Edwards

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coming in ship hot from the Bronx
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we'll talk about how their lives became
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all right, bringing the bolt of

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him in. You bring him in, buddy, all right? Ready,

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you're hot, all right? You
don't go to get to show mel Wait

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at nice, take deep wretch,
make it easy. Here we go on

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the waking to my guy. Wait
wait wait wait wait wait, hey,

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you're talking to my guy all wrong. It's wrong. Tom do it again,

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stabbing her face with a soddering eye. There coming to the stage.

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Chris Edwards and Phil Cappadora forgot about
it? Three killer Junior. Now,

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Gonzo, that guy's giving you a
run for money with that head of hair

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over there. Chris is in my
boat. That's right, in the same

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canoe. Meaning, but Goba Goal
over there has got a full head.

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He's got the going on over there, Goba Goal. That's why how you

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Phil? I turned thirty seven on
the tenth. Wow, But you old

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man's got a full head of hand. Yeah for the most part, bitch,

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Chris, I hate those guys.
Don't you hate those guys? Man?

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All right, let's let's but I
don't hate too much. I don't

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I'm not a hater. Let's let's
let's play. Uh, let's do the

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let's get patriotic really quick, and
then we'll dive right into this whole mishmash

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of a collaboration. Here all,
here we go. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the United States of
America and to the Republic, for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Wonderful, It's still the best country
in the world. Right man,

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All right, let's start to unwind, unravel this whole mishmash. Yeah,

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how do you guys get together?
So we got to start with Chris.

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I would say, let's jump into
Chris's early years, how he got on

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the job, why he got on
the job, what got him into the

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job, and where we started on
the JAT and the JEB. Yeah,

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I was eighteen years old, just
got out of high school and at the

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time I had a My girlfriend got
pregnant and I had to grow up.

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At the snap of a finger.
Her father was a New York City firefighter.

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Oh my god, he kind of
like directed me. He's about six

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foot four, about two hundred and
thirty five pounds quick. He actually worked

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the fifty six truck and uh,
you know he kind of like one day,

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you know, growing up, the
snap of the finger. He pulled

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the car over and said, what
can we can we use the four lettle

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word on the show? Fucking said, he goes what he cuts exactly,

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goes, what the fuck are you
doing on the street. Yeah, you

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got a baby on the way,
and you got to go out and get

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a job. And at that point
I walked down a hill to my house

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and I coming out and started working, and he guided me to go take

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every single you know, he told
me to take the New York City fight

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upon test. My father, who
wasn't actually the first sanitation cop in New

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York City, wanted me to take
the sanitation and the NYPD, and I

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took them all and I was actually
I graduated in seventy seven. My daughter

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was born in seventy nine. I
took the test in seventy seven and I

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passed. But then we had that
protest in seventy seven where they froze the

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list for almost seven years, and
I had it. You know, it

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was either I was going to get
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I was on that list too,
so I decided to take the not

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decided I wanted to get become a
finean. I had no idea what it

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was about. But I took the
test in eighty four and I got made

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in eighty six, eighty seven.
And now with this conversation happened before,

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after he pubbled the shit out of
you getting the daughter pregnant. Well it

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was funny, you know. It
was Kevin. He was like I said,

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it was a big dude. And
one time when he found out about

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it. Where we lived at Warley
Heights is a it's a town between Monroe

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World and Monro washer with him,
it's a small town at thebominous development was

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made up of New York City cops, firefighters, all city workers. So

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he was down at the bar and
she tells me, my father just found

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out. So I said, you
know what, I'm going down and I

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got to talk to him. She
goes to me, what are you crazy?

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He's down there drinking. I said, I really don't give a shit.

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So I walked down the bar,
walked down the hill, and I

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went went into the bar and he
said, what the fuck are you doing

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over here? Get the hell out
of here. I don't want to see

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you. I said, well,
I got to talk to you. So

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he was a volunteer firefighter, was
a chief in the fire department South when

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we grow So he says to me, go over to the firehouse and I'm

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eating That's like about one o'clock in
the afternoon. Nobody's around, so he

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had the key. So we walked
over to the firehouse and he opens up

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the door. It's just me walking
in. We walk in the back and

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I said, I'm gonna tell you
right now, you lay ahead on me,

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I'm going to fucking hit you with
the first thing I find. Then

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he goes, no, no,
I'm not going to hit you. I'm

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not going to hear you. I
just want to you know, I just

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want you to understand you got responsibility. And you know what. I had

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an opportune about two years ago to
go down there and to Florida. He

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moved down to Florida and I had
an opportunity to talk. He was in

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bad Sheepe, but I wanted to
thank him for what he did for me

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and what I mean by that.
He said he directed me in one of

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the greatest jobs in the world.
And I went in there and he was

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in a wheelchair and as a matter
of fact, my ex brother, my

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brother in law. He's like a
brother to me. He said, Chris,

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he's not going to want to talk
to you. So I went over.

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I said, you know, Stevie, I really don't care. I

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went over to his house, went
in. He wheeled himself over to the

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table and I said, Steve,
I have to say something to you.

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I want to thank you for what
you did for me. And he I

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said, you know what, you
led me to one of the greatest jobs

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in the world. I'm sorry that, you know, what happened between your

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daughter and I didn't work out.
But I want to just say to that

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point you left out. You guys
didn't work out. No, and you

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know what, and he and he
got old, teary eyed, really and

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I thanked him for what he did. And you know, the sad part

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was about two or three months later
he passed away. But I had that

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opportunity to thank a man for what
he did for me. And you know

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what, I needed to grow up. I'm fucking eighteen years old out on

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the street playing playing ball, and
in reality, you know, I had

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responsibility. And from that point on, I mean, I worked every single

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day in my life up until the
fire Department retired me on May fourth,

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two thousand and two. So,
you know what when he passed away seems

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young? What was that? I'm
sorry? How how old was uh?

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How old was he when he passed
away? Young? How old when he

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passed away? Yeah? He had
to be young. He was in his

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he was in his mid seventies.
Oh all right, yeah, yeah,

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you know what, bro, how
do you lay the hang on you?

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That would have been a good time
for payback while he was in a wheelchair.

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Oh listener, man, I was
young, I was crazy, So

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you know what it would have been. It would have been a struggle,

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but it would have been something.
I would have found something to hit him

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with. Yeah, he got day
back when he was in the wheelchair.

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You could have got him back,
bro, he would have been able to

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find you. Yeah what mean by
put put a boom handle in in a

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wheelchair and then do what I gotta
do? Roll down the street? He

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gets it. He's the one who
points you towards the job. Right.

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So what years you get called eighty
what? I well, yeah, I

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got called off to that second list
eighty six, eighty seven. I got

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on a job and uh, you
know, I had no idea what it

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was really to be a fireman,
you know, since my poke that guy

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bro, yeah yeah young, he's
young, and had no idea really what

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it was about. And then uh, you know, I go in and

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graduate and they give you a you
know, to give you an assignment and

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where you're gonna go. And they
said, Chris said, would you go

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on a forty six truck in the
Bronx And I had no idea where it

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was. You know, all of
a sudden, here guy's saying, oh

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boy, you're going to forty six
truck. I said, yeah, this

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is back in the eighties. I
had no idea. So next see,

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I know, I go over to
the firehouse and it was made up of

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some old salty man man, you
know, getting salty. Ain't the world

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These guys were already they were like
in the sixties originally salty. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, the originals and
the hair combs you off. I looked

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at it as walking through the big
red doors. It was like the burn

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Canal of life. You walk through
those doors, burn Canal of life.

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I love that. And you know, you walk through those doors and you're

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you're born into another another, another
world, another life, and you know,

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you you salute the guy on the
house watch, you know, you

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go as you're walking in the back. Then you get to the kitchen table

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and that's when you get the fucking
baptism because they are this is this is

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a nice this is the nicest version
of the kitchen table compared to what it

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was. You know, but it
was made up of some real guys.

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You know, a lot of Harlem
guys, uh Brooklyn guys. It was

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a mixture and there was real tough
guys and it was funny. One of

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the stories was they go to me, Hey, Chris, did you see

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that guy over there? And I
said, yeah. They said, whatever

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you do, don't call him Mike. He hates me called Mikey. You

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go call him Mikey. Now,
this guy is probably about five six five

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seven. Gods setting you up on
Mikey. I can see that a big

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time, big time. You know, he's a probably going over. So

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this guy was and on top of
that, he was a boxer. His

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nose was you know, of course. So I go over to him.

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They go, right, they go
over there and tell go, tell,

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go, tell Mike and Chiles.
So I walk over to him and I

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said, hey, Mikey d he
hits me and I go, want,

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I go, what was that for? Don't ever call me Mikey? He

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goes who told you to call me
Mikey? And and all of those guys

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are standing over there, laughing their
wrass off. They were all laughing and

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laughing liver and and it was like
that was that was part of the baptism

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man. I guess the guy came
over and I realized then that that,

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you know what, the way to
make it around a fire house is,

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never let these guys see never let
him see anything bothers you. If you

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keep laughing your whole entire career,
they won't get they won't get to your

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drivers of MutS. And I'll tell
you what. Years go by, and

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I always laughed all the time in
the fire house, never stopped. They

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bust my boss, they sat talking
about my mother and my sister whoever.

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I would laugh and laugh from laughing. So what eventually ends up happening,

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It's like hears go by like thirty
years go buying him at a funeral and

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this guy comes over. Is that
was Pete Backshark and he was one of

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the greatest ball busses man Pete was
a great fireman too. And he comes

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over and he goes, hey,
Edwoods and I go over there and I

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saw laughing at my ass off at
the funeral. He goes, son of

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a bitch, fucking thirty years,
you're still laughing. And I and I

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said to myself, you know what
I got. It took me thirty for

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him to say it's still laughing.
Yeah, I finally got him. Roof.

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Do you remember the first day you
walked into one seventeen like that?

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That's something we should ask the very
first day they walked in, I met

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Tony Mikaelic. They were they were
out, the whole the whole company tapped

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out. They had a like a
second or third alarm in one of the

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towers that we had over in the
story by the water, and it was

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like a really bad fire. So
I was thinking, holy ship when I

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walk into you know what I mean. But Tony Mikaelach was the first guy

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that I met. Yeah episode yeah, yeah, second Street, forty third

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street, right on right on the
forty second and uh and the story of

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Bullbard, Yeah, right in my
neighborhood. Yes, So I was gonna

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say, we got to get to
gobble goal. Now let's see what's what's

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a gold story now? Well gobble
gould stories. His old man was on

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the job, right, yes,
yes, So give us a little history

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on the old men. Where'd you
grow up? Would you? How was

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it? Where did he work all
that stuff? Oh? Well throwback.

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My family is all from Canarsi,
Brooklyn, and uh, my dad got

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on the job like right around eighty
four, eighty five, the eighty He

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got on a job actually in eighty
four, and then he married my mom

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in nineteen eighty five. And then
I showed up in nineteen eighty seven.

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Uh, he went on, look
at that guy, that's you, bro,

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that's a little that was out.
I was actually born with a lot

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of hair too. Found out.
We can see it. The Dophins thing,

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I got it. I think it
was. I want to say it

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was engine three h nine latter one
fifty nine. The Friendly firehouse on Flatish

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Avenue. That that was my dad's
firehouse for about fifteen or sixteen years.

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So you old man's Italian. Your
mother Italian too? Irish? Oh your

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Irish Italian mixed bro Ye, I'm
a gimmick. So your old man used

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to make the sauce and your mother
used to just boil the ship out of

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meat pretty much. They worked pretty
They make quite a quite a pair.

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Now that's the old man, right, he's got the pistol grip. Uh

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yeah, I guess he was drilling. This might have been around two thousand

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and two or three maybe, Uh
huh. Did you remember going to the

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firehouse? Oh yes, absolutely,
an engine engine three oh nine and as

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well as Bronx what was that,
uh eighty one? Yeah, yeah,

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I remember all of it like I
could still smell it to this day.

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I'll never forget it. When you
walked in there before they had THEMS,

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right, that firehouse they had a
job. He would smell of smoke.

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Yeah, that was great. We
used to go to I think it was

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Lido Beach for the fireman. Yeah, that's where I lived, bro right

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there. I haven't been there in
like a long time, but it would

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be nice to go back. You
can have dinner with me, Phil,

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You can hang out anytime. So
you never got to drive down from bubble

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fuck though you're only upstate, right
or something like that. Well, I'm

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back and forth between Astoria and Upstates, all right, doesn't matter. What's

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what's a drive. Yeah again,
say what, uh so, did you

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ever feel like you wanted to get
on the job or any of that.

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What what happened with that? Do
you have other brothers or sisters or anything.

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Yeah, so, I'm the oldest
of four. I think we all

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pretty much took the test back in
two thousand or we signed up to take

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the test, maybe in two thousand
and four or five. But I got

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on the job as an iron worker
in two thousand and six, and I

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did that for about a full year
and then going into two thousand and seven

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before I got hurt. Some judge
canceled the test and that was it.

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So in two from two thousand and
seven to twenty twelve, I was pretty

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much just in and I wasn't working
as a worker anymore. So by the

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time the opportunity to get on the
job happened again, I signed up for

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the twenty twelve exam, but the
week of the test, I got sick

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with mono and then I missed that
test. So you went to Hollywood version

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went to Hollywood route. I guess
if I was gonna it's I guess we

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could call it poetic justice. How
it became full circle on how I got

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to this point where no, I'm
not going to ever be on the job.

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I spoke to a few firefighters on
how to like come in through the

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side door, go as an EMS, and then maybe get promoted. I

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didn't know that until I turned thirty, and by then it was like great

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mind, I already sat yeah too
old. How did you How did you

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start up doing the the historia gig? How did that all start? It

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all like, it's it's strange because
in two thousand and seven I had to

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get a shoulder operation because the year
prior, in two thousand and six,

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I got hurt on I got I
got hurt multiple times on the job,

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and I also got hurt in a
separate accident. Because I was pursuing playing

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college football. So I had to
go to college just because under Obamacare you

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had to be in school until you're
twenty six years old just to have healthcare.

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And I couldn't work as an ironworker
anymore. So I went to college.

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So I started at Sunny Orange and
I literally just took an intro to

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theater class wearing a sling, just
to kind of like no it, yeah,

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just get get my degree. That's
crazy. So they about that my

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toms familiar. My son's doing the
same thing. He's gonna ta he's gonna

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go to the twenty six trying to
get a two year degree. I don't

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know. I didn't know. I
didn't I didn't have a degree to the

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degree. I went for healthcare.
That was it. I took an intro

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to theater class, and the people
in the theater class said, we need

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a guy for this play. So
I signed up for the play. I

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couldn't go to the gym, so'd
all right. My brother, my sisters,

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they all did plays in high school. I might as well give it

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a shot. I don't care.
But they said I did well, and

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then I did three more throughout the
next three months, and then they said

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try it, like, try this
a little bit. So I switched from

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a business major to a liberal arts
major, and I just focused more on

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theater acting and I didn't care about
the degree. I was just there for

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healthcare. So the following semester I
did my first acting class, and then

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when the final came around, there
were filmmakers sitting in the audience and they

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scouted me for my first independent film, and that film got accepted into the

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Black Bear Film festival in two thousand. I guess by now it's the beginning

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of two thousand and eight, and
the director of that film festival told me

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to go study in New York.
So from twenty ten to twenty twelve,

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that's exactly what I did. And
next thing, you know, you're the

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president of the Historian Filmmakers Club.
Who uh, I'm throwing a shenan against

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flag coops. What do you think? Guy goes inded for healthcare? Next

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thing you know, he's like running
the top places. The film one Gonzo

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is a picture of your story.
We have no ship my Badler. No,

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that's the book that Big Break,
Pete. What the fun are you

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doing, Pete? We only have
a few to choose from. Yeah,

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thus we figured you could. Yeah, you know, bro, we'll go

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back back to the first Big Break. Then that's all we have. That's

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all we have. Go back to
the Moe where he's uh, he's what

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the one before that that you just
had up? This one? No,

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you dick, some of which one
is? He mek not what Jesus Christ?

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Get it? Right? Gone?
So so what is this? Bro?

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That's the guy who plays Batman?
Now right, that's right? Yeah,

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that's actor Robert Pattinson and that's you. Yeah, and that's me.

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And that's your first big break.
What uh Yeah, that was more or

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less my first break at all.
From two thousand. After after college in

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twenty twelve, I finished my education
at the Neighborhood Playhouse shout out Neighborhood Playhouse.

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I took about a year just to
kind of digest and like reset and

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try to like figure out what it
is I want to do in my life.

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Do I go back to working as
an ironworker. Do I try to

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like maybe get back into taking a
fire Department test? But there wasn't any,

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so I just was figure figuring shit
out. So I just picked up

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small acting gigs all twenty thirteen,
fourteen, and fifteen. Just background acting

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was the only thing I could ever
book. I applied to every every,

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every single known talent management agency in
the city. I submitted my resume by

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email and mailed it in and the
just the stamps in the postage was over

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00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.160
two grand in that time. In
that time. Yeah, No, I'm

409
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.480
like I was. I was consistent. I would always I even have this.

410
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.440
I even have one of my old
like resumes right here on my desk,

411
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:30.200
just as a reminder like a head
shot, okay, mug shot office

412
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:37.279
the straight, not only magazine,
not only club president. You're also a

413
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:45.119
client, Yes I am not just
looks. That's true. You were an

414
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.880
actor too. I thought you just
ran the thing. Well, I I

415
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.960
guess uh, I could skip ahead, but there was no there was no

416
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.720
there was no luck for me to
really just uh. I got turned down

417
00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:03.279
the entire like for years, just
NonStop and one guy. In around twenty

418
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.279
fifteen, I booked a play where
I was going on tour for the story

419
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.839
of Van Frank. So I left
the city for a while, and when

420
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.480
I came back, one of my
friends from college recommended actors access. So

421
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.880
I applied to some sort of social
services gig where they just need a cop,

422
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:26.559
and I was like a cop or
whatever. And everything I ever booked

423
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.200
as whether it's background, part principle, like in the Sides, I was

424
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.759
always a cop, even on a
Spielberg set, And that is a true

425
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:40.039
story. But this twenty sixteen March
rolls around. They're filming the show what

426
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.039
would be called Good Time with Robert
Pattinson, and at first I was just

427
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.960
a background actor. But six months
later they had to reshoot the entire arrest

428
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.160
scene, and they asked me to
come back in, so of course I

429
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.240
show up. I need the money. But what ended up happening while I

430
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.839
was there? The guy who actually
didn't make the arrest, he was he

431
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.759
wasn't able to make it that day, He had a prior prior thing.

432
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.559
Nothing happened. But the director,
Benny Saftie from The Saftie Brothers, he

433
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.440
just looks right to his left and
he says, what about Phil? And

434
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.119
I say what about me? So
I got promoted right then and there,

435
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.519
and now I look like the guy
who arrested Robert Pattinson in the movie There

436
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.640
you Go. And that was it. All right. Now we're gonna get

437
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.079
to get I promise you, guys, We're going to get to how these

438
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:37.119
two met over here? How well, how are you? Let's get back

439
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.039
to Chris. Chris gets down the
job again. How did you what?

440
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:48.480
He says? Anyway, brother,
do you know anybody or I've never done

441
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:56.039
this? Well, not that I
knew at the time, an uncle or

442
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:01.960
somebody I was. I guess it
was my father in lawst friend. Oh,

443
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.640
like, yes, I guess.
But the guys who to pound you

444
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:15.839
into submission, that guy got up
and they knew my up. What they

445
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.759
knew? I needed a paychecks something. Man, when you get over to

446
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.920
forty six, right, yeah,
eighty What do you say, eighty six?

447
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.759
You got there? Yeah, eighty
six, eighty seven I got over

448
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.319
there. So that's still the tail
end of the bronze is burning over there.

449
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.839
Now they're doing some work. Yeah, I mean, you know what,

450
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.000
we had a h it was a
busy company somewhat, you know.

451
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.880
I mean, I think we're in
the top twenty twenty five at the time

452
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.480
the truck was. But then what
ended up happenings. I transferred over to

453
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:51.319
forty two engine, and that's when
oh wait, let me get hell bro

454
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:57.640
oh that we gotta throwback. Let
me you big out that. Who is

455
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:07.039
that Tom is top? Would you
like to buy her? I like to

456
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:15.599
buy her a reverse mortgage work?
He's on fire. I think that operation

457
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:21.000
didn't. I don't know, damn
pull. I'm not going to say who

458
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:22.559
this chicken was. But she was
following around. They met him somewhere and

459
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.400
she showed up all over the place. It's got the green machine. Then

460
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.640
I would just say that's forty two
hundred, that's the green machine. Then

461
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.799
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was one of the uh I

462
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.599
think we were using uh I think
forty one. Yeah, it was like

463
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.279
six or forty one was another one, I believe. But we were in

464
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.920
a highway, so it's like,
yeah, were any single engine over forty

465
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.160
yeah, single engine, So they
were rocking and rolling over there. That's

466
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:53.519
a it's a hot spot, man, it's a good spot. Yeah.

467
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.519
At the time I got there,
we were like fourth busy, send your

468
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.720
company in the city. So you
see the playgum and it was you know,

469
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:07.640
I mean night and day compared forty
six truck and forty two. The

470
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.679
difference was when I got when I
got to forty two. Actually, my

471
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.760
first tour in forty two. If
you remember back in nineteen ninety seven,

472
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.800
September of nineteen ninety seven, forty
two engine was the firehouse. They got

473
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.440
shot up really going out on the
run and it was a livery guy giving

474
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.840
him a hard time and they wouldn't
let the rig go by, and it

475
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.239
was a confentation between this driver and
a couple of brothers on the rig.

476
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.000
The driver was going to the trunk
and one of the brothers grabs got into

477
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.159
a big fight. The PD show
up, the driver runs down the block.

478
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:45.880
PD shows up. They popped the
trunk and there's nine millimeter guy going

479
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.280
for a gun. So they go
over. They go back to quarters and

480
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.480
Chief comes over and there's back eight, you know, eight of the brothers

481
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.960
sitting out front, and all of
a sudden, this guy walks up the

482
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:01.199
box and reaches into the back of
his pan, pulls out an imbi and

483
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.400
point blank range. He points it
at the brothers and he goes click and

484
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.480
jams and by the time he hit
the magazine, they all ran and he

485
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.000
shot out the windshield of a rig. He shot out into everywhere that somebody

486
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.119
rolled. This guy shot. A
better story would have been by the time

487
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.159
he put it, he ungenmed it. He had a Halligan sticking out the

488
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.559
side of his head. You know
what if they had, you know,

489
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.079
Kevin, if they had enough time
to do it, they probably know they

490
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.760
would. They ran their rasses off, you gout, you know. And

491
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.679
I get there in nineteen ninety and
it was my basically my first week.

492
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.679
So one of the brothers called me
up, you know, one of the

493
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.280
brothers called in, said, hey, Chris, could your home over for

494
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.639
me? I got my daughter's got
a softball game up in Yonkers. I

495
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.679
see, I have no problem,
so I'm out, you know, I'm

496
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.599
mount in front. It's like June. It's a Thursday in June and nineteen

497
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.440
ninety. It's warm and everything.
The music's playing up on the corner.

498
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.599
Everybody's out in the street. So
these two little kids are out there playing

499
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.239
ball. So I see they gut
like cardboard, all rolled up with tape

500
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.840
on it, and I go,
yeah, I go to my trunk and

501
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.880
pop the trunk and get a softball
out. I go over there and get

502
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.519
a clincher. And I'm playing ball
with these two little kids. So I

503
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.800
got my back turn to the corner, which is probably about thirty forty feet

504
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.920
away, and I hear pop pop
pop pop pop pop pop pop pop,

505
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.440
and I'm thinking this fireworks, you
know. And I got my back turn.

506
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.639
Yeah, pop pop pop pop pop
pop pop, and I see these

507
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.039
I'm bended down picking it up,
the kids hitting the ball, and I

508
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.800
look across the street and I see
these people running down the block and I'm

509
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.840
like, shit, you know,
Whatell's going on? And go down to

510
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.199
pop pop pop and I look at
the bricks on the window on the on

511
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:43.599
the building and I see puff Puff
Puff Puff Puff, And I turn it

512
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.320
around and there is this kid in
the middle of the street with a what

513
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.679
ao b b b b b b
bout sweeping the street and there's three people

514
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.320
shot up on the corner laying down. There's one guy shot in the middle

515
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.800
of the street. I'm standing down
in the middle of the street with these

516
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.440
two little kids. What I did, It's like, grab the two little

517
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.000
kids. I roll behind this double
park car and I'm looking around the car

518
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.960
and see what this guy's going to
do. All of a sudden, he

519
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:12.079
goes to take the clip out and
I and I tell the kids, listen,

520
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.480
I got to make a run for
the fire house door. So I

521
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.599
got these two kids, like eight
years old under my arms, and I

522
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.119
take a run about twenty feet behind
the double park on a regular park car.

523
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.480
This guy picks a clip back in, ping ping ping, pink pink

524
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.320
pink, pink, pink pink ping. Oh he h, it's a double

525
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.360
park car. Here, said legally
Parkard. I'm running. I push these

526
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:35.599
two kids up up against the wall
and I gotta pop the combination, pop

527
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.360
the combination. Run in the back
of guys. Listen, we got a

528
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.559
major, major shooting out front.
Man. They go, yeah, yeah,

529
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:43.079
we heard the shots. I said, listen, we gotta get out

530
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.239
there. There's got to be a
lot of people here. Hey, well,

531
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.440
what do you do? O one
are not cops who fired me?

532
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.440
We had no guns. So I
run to the front door, and now

533
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:53.840
everybody's out in the street. I
said, listen, they're out. We

534
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.039
open up the door. Pauly Gambolini, a great gray fire and he was

535
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:00.280
in forty two at the time,
puts a pair of rubber gloves on,

536
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.679
runs up to the guy in the
middle of the street. He was actually

537
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.639
pumping blood out of his chest and
Pully put his fingers in there to try

538
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.440
to save the guy. He ends
up dying. The three across the street

539
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.480
were actually working with the drug dealer. They were all hit with rickerst shots.

540
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.440
And now all of a sudden,
we go to the there's a Chinese

541
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.119
place on a corner and this guy
fell in there and they friends grabbed him,

542
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.880
through him in the car, brought
him over the Bronx elevenon. Then

543
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.559
we go down two stores and it
was a liquor store, and then the

544
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.639
liquor store, this guy bled out. We opened up the door. So

545
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.639
this guy, this this kid was
a kid. He shot He shot six

546
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.440
people and killed two of them.
Wow, And what happens is you know

547
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.280
P. D. Combs, and
it was there was there was a girl

548
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.679
in the neighborhood that also came in
and you know told you know, it

549
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:52.679
was a witness of what happened.
So I gave the description of his kid.

550
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.480
Then about two weeks later, you
know, we'll out in front of

551
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.000
the firehouse again, and all of
a sudden, this car pulls up.

552
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.480
There's up all across the street and
it's kind of it's like a reel narrow

553
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.000
Streeten, a car pulls up on
the other side. So kid gets out

554
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.519
of the car and gives us a
stair down. I go, come on,

555
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.480
kid, just keep walking. He's
going to the bodegas right next to

556
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.000
the flask I just just keep walking, don't starve, no trouble. So

557
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.719
one of the brothers go over to
him and say, hey, listen,

558
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.519
you gotta move your car down.
So the guy starts giving him lit He

559
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.519
said, listen, move your car
down. So the guy moves down a

560
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.920
couple of couple of feet. Being
the wise guy, Well, the other

561
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.679
guy comes out the other kid comes
out, same thing. He's got the

562
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.719
smirk on his face. He gets
in the car and he turns around to

563
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.239
me, to us, he takes
his frainger like a gun like he's shooting,

564
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.840
and I said, both shit,
boom, boom boom, I take

565
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:46.840
down the plate, go up.
P D end up telling him listening,

566
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.239
we had a shooting here two weeks
ago, six people shot, two people

567
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.039
killed, and I just get this
kid coming over. Well what happens is

568
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.719
they run the plate. Boom.
That was the kid came back in the

569
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.360
neighborhood to say, you know what
you want to I can come back and

570
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.360
get you anytime I want. And
eventually it ended up catching him about a

571
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.800
week or two weeks later, they
caught the kid. You know, his

572
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:17.079
excuse was on the street. The
excuse was he wanted to take over the

573
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:21.280
drug corner. And he was only
seventeen years old. He wanted to take

574
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.679
over the drug corner. The what
he told the cops was that they listen,

575
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.639
the guy disrespected my sister, and
I couldn't understand for the life of

576
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.039
me, how like I talked to
the people on the street. I would

577
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.480
tell him there's a guy down the
block who's the drug dealer. You got

578
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.000
to understand something. He's not good. No no, no, chrise,

579
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.719
no no, no, he's he
brings protection to the neighborhood. I go

580
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.960
to know he's the one that brings
violence into the neighborhood. And telling you

581
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:54.719
now, and you know as a
as a sick joke that he had he

582
00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:01.360
had a Mint sixty nine thunderbird with
white leather interior cherry red. He went

583
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.519
out and got a license plate changed
too hard to kill. That was the

584
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.079
big joke in the neighborhood. And
for the life of me, I mean,

585
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.519
you know we in that neighborhood.
I mean you were surrounded. It

586
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.480
wasn't just an isolated thing. It
was one of the brothers were going out

587
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.159
and all of a sudden there was
a fight across the street and it was

588
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.639
against a woman and a man.
A man was beating the shit out of

589
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.360
this woman and the brother sees it
and next thing you know, a guy

590
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.360
runs out of the building and there's
a competition between this guy beating the woman

591
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.199
up and a guy trying to break
it up. Well, the guy trying

592
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.440
to break it up gets a shit
kicked out of him. He runs back

593
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.880
in the building, grabs a shotgun, comes running out and blows this guy

594
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.639
away right in the middle of the
street about ten o'clock in the morning.

595
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.320
You know, a lot of people
don't understand, especially when you work in

596
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:54.159
these neighborhoods, the type of situations
that happened. You know, that's pretty

597
00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:00.039
crazy. And as a fireman and
forty two engine what I saw, I

598
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.000
mean, this goes to find and
throughout you can go out the country and

599
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.159
throughout the city. You have an
opportunity to help a kid on a one

600
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.199
way street. If you could give
a kid, if you help one kid

601
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.039
out of ten or twenty or thirty, you succeeded to get him out of

602
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.760
that element. I mean, that's
just I mean, they really don't last.

603
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.920
There's another story about another kid I
used to take to walk the kids

604
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.679
back and forth to school. The
mother would come over and I take a

605
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.480
handy talking go guys were going down
the block to walk a kid to school,

606
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.239
you know, And I would tell
these two kids, one kid was

607
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.800
Raqem and the other kid was Willy. I walk down the end of the

608
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.599
block, tell them every time,
stay away from the corner. Stay away

609
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.760
from the corner. For years five
or six years and then when I transferred

610
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.960
out, you know, I wasn't
there anymore, and I really missed helping

611
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.239
the kids out. I go back
five years later and all of a sudden,

612
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.079
I have my son at the time
was twelve years old, and I

613
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.079
pull up and I said, I'm
going to tell you right now. My

614
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:59.039
son was a wrestler, you know, at twelve years old, so it's

615
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.800
a tough kid. And I said, I'm going to tell you right now.

616
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.360
We pull down the block. There's
gonna be kids on that corner.

617
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.960
People on the corner, they're gonna
call out my name because not because I

618
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.360
had anything to do with the drug
dealing, but because they know me.

619
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.480
And a lot of them are kids
that you know, that were growing up

620
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.840
in that neighborhood. They it's a
vicious cycle. So come down the block.

621
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.400
My son said that I'm not getting
out of and I'm not getting out

622
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.199
of the car, and this kid
comes down and you want to hoodie.

623
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:22.559
So all of a sudden, I
pull up. They go, Chris,

624
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.119
Chris, Chris. They all come
down, about five of them. They

625
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.519
come over and they give me a
hunk. When kid comes over, puts

626
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.559
his hand out, he's got a
hoodie eye it, And I told him,

627
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.639
and I knew exactly who the kid
was. I said, if you

628
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.519
got if you're man enough to come
over here and shake my hand and hang

629
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.440
out on that corner and do what
you're doing, you're mad enough to take

630
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.559
your hood off, and you look
me in the eye. You look me

631
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.840
in the eye. And this kid
takes his hoot off and he puts that

632
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.000
and it's a kid, one of
the kids from that that I used to

633
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.320
take the school. And I tell
him, what, what the what are

634
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.719
you doing? What are you fuck? I told you not to hang out

635
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:02.039
of that. It's almost you know. And the kid says it's his head

636
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.039
back down. He said, no, pick you had a little mini eye.

637
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.920
So we're talking, laced them to
him. My son's like, oh

638
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.239
my god, my father's telling a
drug dealer the taker's hood off. You

639
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.559
know, he should be crazy.
So I asked him about his brother and

640
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.400
he puts his head down. He
says, my brother was killed. I

641
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.480
said, what His brother at eight
years old was probably about six foot and

642
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:28.079
one hundred and seventy five pounds at
eight years old. This can cault him

643
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.960
in a football player at basketball play
if he was living upstate. Well,

644
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.119
if he was living in a suburban, he would be a phenomenal athlete.

645
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.400
And what happened was he got a
He ended up getting a girl pregnant in

646
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:44.119
high school, quit high school,
got a ged, and he was having

647
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.079
a hard time with you know,
bring him formula and diapers for his baby.

648
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.760
And the guy on the corner said, listen, you come work with

649
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.559
me. I'll give you a thousand
dollars a week. So what the kid

650
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.760
did, He said, I don't
want to do it. I got a

651
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.440
secure away from my New York State
security license. Take like almost four or

652
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.719
five months get that. I don't
know what. It's so crazy, you

653
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.760
know, to wait so long.
And what ended up happening It was the

654
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.880
kid said. The kid kept asking
a massive mass and finally he goes over

655
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.960
and says, listen, I'll go
on a quarner, but I'm not staying

656
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.159
more. I'm only wait until get
my license. He goes over. Next

657
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.239
thing, you know, about a
week two weeks later, the drug kingpin

658
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.480
says somebody's stealing money. This kid
turns around and says, this kid's taking

659
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.519
the money. The kid they just
took on and just had to be.

660
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.440
They stopped telling him to go over
the top of the avenue. We want

661
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.119
to talk to him. This kid
goes over the top of the avenue.

662
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.880
They beat the shit out of the
kid, and then they shoot him twice

663
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.280
in the face. They came.
So it's a fish and fishing cycle.

664
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:42.599
Man, you could make it.
The kid's life is a firefight. You

665
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.239
gotta do it, you gotta do
it. You know how long? Uh?

666
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:52.920
In eighty two? Bro? Eighty
one? Oh, eighty one a

667
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.039
minute? Sorry, you were going
back to when this was happening. No,

668
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.320
he was at forty two. Oh
he was, Yeah, me too.

669
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:01.239
Anyway to eighty one? How long
are you in forty two? That's

670
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.199
what I meant the time five years, five and a half years. I

671
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:12.800
stayed there, and then I came
back to eighty one. Yeah, I

672
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.960
went back to the engine. Yeah, how come? What made you want

673
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.679
to go back to you know what
it was? I'll tell you what went.

674
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.239
Forty two. We basically were both. We were both you know,

675
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.639
in the back of our shirts.
And forty two it says no truck because

676
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.400
there is no truck. You're a
single engine company. So you're doing you're

677
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.480
doing everything, you know, you
know bus balls between truck guys and guys

678
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:36.559
are the truck you guys in the
engine. So I ended up the guys

679
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.480
back in eighty one. There was
a couple of senior guys that came over

680
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.239
to me and said, listen,
why did you come back home? Come

681
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.440
back home? So I did.
I went back home. And it was

682
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.760
a bunch of young guys working in
eighty one, guys that I basically grew

683
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.599
up with. And that's a that's
a group of them, and that's from

684
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:58.119
that point. From that point,
I went back to eighty one, and

685
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.079
uh, you know, we had
a I mean great, great times in

686
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.880
that fire house, and we caught
a lot of great work. And I

687
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.079
mean with the experience, what are
you two to bring into eighty one?

688
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.920
It was it was like a blessing
to be able to, you know,

689
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.079
experience that. You know, somebody
says, ask Chris about Walter and Tommy,

690
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.880
Oh my god, oh to the
greatest man. Before we we got

691
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.519
to get the criss to fill a
little bit here. Two weeks. He's

692
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.920
been out there for a while.
He's he's off on his eating or weed

693
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:34.119
over there. I don't know what
he's booking. UF bro Co and go

694
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:40.679
Ice looking up the rotation. So
Chris was back in eighty one. Right,

695
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.239
we're gonna leave off with Chris.
Now, your father goes to eighty

696
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.639
one, correct, Is that where
they meet? Uh? That's the Bronx,

697
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.079
right, yeah, yeah yeah,
so uh yeah, I guess they

698
00:47:52.159 --> 00:48:00.360
crossed paths. I believe he went
in the spring of two thousand and one

699
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.679
was when my dad first got you. Moved out of Kafi. We moved

700
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:14.639
out of Canarsie in the mid nineties. I started. I started like midway

701
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:20.599
through elementary school back in like nineteen
I want to say, ninety three,

702
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.239
ninety four, give or take maybe
frunt around then up in Goshen, New

703
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:30.239
York, and graduated Goshen High School
in two thousand and five. Where's that.

704
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.239
I'm in Warwick, Phille. Oh
we're neighbors. We actually beat Warwick

705
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:45.400
for the spiritual Good for you,
good for you, oh my oh my

706
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.880
long football rivalry. But yeah,
Goshen. If you went anywhere near the

707
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:59.960
Woodbury Commons, you would go west
on seventeen and Goshen is about ten minutes

708
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.880
down past Chester now where Lego Land
is. That's Gosher, New York.

709
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.159
So you're up at Goshen, your
old man says, I ain't making that

710
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.800
trip to the Friendly fire House anymore. So it transfers back to over eighty

711
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.000
one. Yep, right, that's
that's yeah, great, guess you're right.

712
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:22.960
That's where Chris meets your old man, Phil Goba Ghoul Senior. Right

713
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.079
at this point, you you're well, you're up there, right, we

714
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.400
already went through you went to college. Now you're getting into the acting,

715
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.920
right, and so around the time
they met, I was a freshman in

716
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.679
high school. Yeah, but we're
past that with your timeline. We're up

717
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.239
to uh, your big break over
there when you play the cop, right,

718
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.199
twenty sixteen, right, so okay, that's right, right, So

719
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.920
we're gonna fast forward to what happens
to you after you get that big break

720
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.679
with Batman. So what do you
do after that? Uh? So I

721
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:01.800
literally as soon as I I made
that arrest, I had just gotten off

722
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:08.079
the plane from my honeymoon. So
I was married. Well, oh wait,

723
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.960
the story gets the story gets so
much better, all right, it's

724
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:20.280
gonna get it's gonna get great.
So it's twenty sixteen. I'm fresh back

725
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:24.519
from watching the Olympics down in Rio
de Janeiro, come back post honeymoon,

726
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.159
gain twenty pounds, thirty pounds,
and they asked me to make the arrest,

727
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.639
and it's like, wow, this
year is amazing. Twenty sixteen is

728
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:38.159
a godsend. I love every second
of it. So my wife and I

729
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.239
we get our own place. Summer
of twenty seventeen, I'm still, of

730
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.519
course looking for work, try to
try to find an acting gig something,

731
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:53.360
but it's not. Being an actor
and being a husband do not really mesh

732
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.960
at all. It's it is more
like you like, your challenge to actually

733
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:05.599
become just a working actor is hard. But when you're only SAG eligible,

734
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.119
you're not in SAG, your money
is going to be a lot lower,

735
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:14.320
and if you do not have a
team helping you, you're already like you're

736
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.239
already still like it's like it's like
you never went to school, or like

737
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.880
you have no shot. And that's
what it felt like. So I didn't

738
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.599
really step aside from acting or anything
like that, but I just started writing

739
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:32.000
my own stuff. So in mid
twenty seventeen, I started actually writing a

740
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:36.760
book. I'm sorry, I already
finished a book. I'm sorry, but

741
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:42.880
I started adapting Chris's book because I
read Chris's book as soon as I got

742
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.639
back from my honeymoon. His life
in the fire department, coming through the

743
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:53.719
flames. So ah, there you
go, there you go go. Fuck

744
00:51:53.760 --> 00:52:13.159
you gets an sis a bitch too. Eventually he's gonna get it right metures.

745
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.400
Hey see, let's go. I
read. So I read Chris's book

746
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.599
twice, uh, like really quick? The book? Why did you pick

747
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:28.239
that book? Did it just happen? Because while I was on my honeymoon,

748
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:32.119
my dad and my mom uh went
to Chris's book signing and they got

749
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.239
two copies of the book. And
as soon as I got back, I

750
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.360
saw the I saw the book and
I said, Dad, where'd you get

751
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.559
this? Oh? He's like my
friend Chris. I used to work with

752
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:45.079
him. He just wrote a memoir
and we got to sign copy quick.

753
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.480
So I started reading it. My
brother and I had worked that day,

754
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.360
so he was driving. I was
sitting in the van. We're doing our

755
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:58.559
deliveries and stuff. So I read
the book twice in the entire span of

756
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.840
the shift, and and I asked
Dad, how do I get in touch

757
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:07.119
with Chris? My dad connects us. And then I asked Chris if he

758
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.679
would be okay with me trying to
turn this book into something of a screenplay.

759
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.000
And Chris and I, I think
had met officially right after my wife

760
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:21.559
and I got our first apartment,
where I started like dabbling a little bit

761
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:27.199
on structuring on how to actually write
the screenplay. And we had lunch together

762
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.840
in Middletown right around June or July
in twenty seventeen where we actually got to

763
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.159
have like a real face to face
and just talk. Before that, it

764
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:38.239
was just over the phone. And
so like Chris seemed to like the idea

765
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:40.960
and said, give it a shot, see what you could come up with.

766
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.840
And I'm paraphrasing, and that's how
this relationship seven years ago now is

767
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.599
how it all really started. So
you start writing his screenplay about his book.

768
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.400
We'll get it through his book in
a minute. And how long will

769
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.760
it take you to write that screenplay? Well, like the first shitty first

770
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.559
draft, I had a really good
one hundred and ten pages ready by November

771
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:10.239
of twenty seventeen. I knew exactly
how I wanted the story to go,

772
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:16.920
based on some elements of the book, but I thought it'd be more interesting

773
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:22.599
to have a strong beginning and have
it set during the nineteen nineties prior to

774
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:27.039
nine to eleven, and try to
make it more of a period piece and

775
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.960
see if we can tackle why he
wrote the book and try to summarize that

776
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:37.119
cinematically, because it's my understanding that
the job before nine to eleven and after

777
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.559
nine to eleven are two separate,
different different things. So what I wanted

778
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.360
to do is capture basically the heart
and soul of the fire department during that

779
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:51.960
last decade before nine to eleven.
Right, So, Chris, what makes

780
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:58.320
you decide to write a book?
What happened was the I went through everything.

781
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.360
I had a whole bunch of these
servers. It was and uh,

782
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.039
wait, we do have a picture. Don I know? You can't fuck

783
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:14.960
this one up. We got a
picture. It's not the book. Sign

784
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:23.559
I'll sign that. That was the
beginning of the end. That's all the

785
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.159
beginning. Yeah. As a matter
of fact, the guys, what year?

786
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.440
What year is this? Though,
Chris? What year you blow out

787
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.800
your knee? This is uh September
of two thousand. Bro, You can't

788
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.840
put another screw in there? And
I don't think what else is that one

789
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.039
sticking out on the other side of
your little pain on that one that comes

790
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:46.599
all the way through. This is
uh, this ended up being uh,

791
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:50.880
let me see, let me I
gotta count the screws because I'm looking at

792
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:52.559
one, two, three, four, five, I'm looking at six.

793
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:58.559
I'm looking at six maybe seven.
That was I'll tell you what that was

794
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:02.920
in March of two thousand, because
I put somebody screws in because you blow

795
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.760
out your knee and you wanted to
get back to the job and they wouldn't

796
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.119
let you back if you had a
knee replacement. Correct, correct, right,

797
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:15.440
right. I went through a series
of reconstructive surgeries starting from September of

798
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:22.599
two thousand, October two thousand,
December two thousand and Marching two thousand and

799
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:28.000
one. And it was a major, major infection and two of the main

800
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.199
operations. I was in the hospital
for a month and a half. Between

801
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:35.559
the two of them, you couldn't
understand why it was such a dick game

802
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.320
while I was trying to come back, and I told her to love for

803
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.920
the job. But what ended up
happening was, you know, this is

804
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.079
why I don't care. Hold on, Chris, didn't let you put that

805
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:52.679
many screws and plates in your knee. But if you have a knee replacement.

806
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.559
They won't let you back. Well, Louis kep the only way I

807
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.719
could get it done. The only
way I get it done the first time

808
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.840
was two screws and a metal plate. That was the first one in that

809
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.760
September of two thousand. Then it
got infected in the hospital. Was in

810
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:10.719
the two and a half weeks they
had to take it out because the bone

811
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.679
graph was eaten by the infection.
Now I got to walk around with a

812
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.119
broken leg for two months. Now. I could have retired any time I

813
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.320
wanted. But the love of the
job is yes, I mean that's I

814
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:22.119
just love the job. So I
go through that, and I would have

815
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.559
mentioned ends up happening is the doctor
from the fire department said, listen,

816
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:30.440
got to get another opinion. I
went for another opinion, and that doctor

817
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.599
down Especial Surgery said, look,
I could put a hell on your knee.

818
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.360
You gotta turn the screws every day. Said how long is it gonna

819
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:38.920
take me to come back to work? He says, that'll take you about

820
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.599
a year. I said, I
don't want to wait. I said,

821
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.079
what's the fastest I can come back? This doctor says, I can do

822
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:50.480
the asiatomy all over two metal plates, eight screws and bone graph off your

823
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:52.960
head. And what ends up happening. I'm in special surgery, gets infected

824
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.880
again, and I'm in for another
two and a half weeks. What does

825
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.880
this happen when they keep getting in
fact, I mean special surgeries to get

826
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.199
shut it out of work. You
know. It was the guy that I

827
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.360
was rooming with. He ended up
being in an accident years ago. He

828
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:12.360
got an infection in the hospital.
I was wounding with the guy right and

829
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.199
then all of a sudden they come
over to me and I got this red

830
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.480
line going up my lake and they
marked it. Next thing you know,

831
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.320
they go said, listen, we're
gonna have to put you in isolation.

832
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.360
So they take me. I tell
you, they did me a major favor,

833
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:28.800
and it put me over the East
River with the hardwood floors of refrigerator.

834
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.119
I had a big TV and as
they did it was count the barges

835
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.280
going back and forth the East River
for two weeks. I had a maid

836
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.239
in the place. The nurses were
great, I mean, and I had

837
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.440
antibiotics. They were just pumping me
up. And then eventually what ended up

838
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.159
happenings. I got a clean to
leave and uh, you know, I

839
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:50.960
got out of the I got out
of the hospital and March in two thousand

840
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.360
and one, and you know,
like we all know about the terrible fire

841
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.280
out in Queen's the hardware store with
the three brothers get killed, and now

842
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.599
it's like I want to come back
even more. And then you had a

843
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:06.840
fire and in us in August where
the kid Michael Roma died from a heart

844
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.199
attack, and that kid worked with
me up in the Bronx, and it's

845
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.159
now you won't even come back even
more. And you know, three weeks,

846
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.880
two weeks later, three weeks later, September eleven comes around, you

847
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:21.760
know, and I'm down in the
hole two weeks. And you know when

848
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.239
I basically got out of the hole
after two weeks. So got out,

849
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.519
started going to memorial services like we
all did. And then I wanted to

850
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:30.679
come back to work. I talked
to the doctor, fired upon. The

851
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.440
doctor says, Christ, you got
to get the places of screws out before

852
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.000
you come back to work. So
I did is. I went in especially

853
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.599
surgery of December, got everything taken
out. Nurse comes over and says,

854
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.559
mister Revers, you have to have
a heart problem. I said, no.

855
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:49.199
She was you got a serious heart
problem. I got what's kind of

856
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.559
how I found it? Hey,
mister, you have a serious heart problem.

857
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.519
It gets worse. And so what
is what happened is I go,

858
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.079
you know, I said, goes, you better go tell the doctor.

859
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.360
So I go to the fight upon
the doctor just so it just happened to

860
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.360
be a cardiologist. I won't mention
any names. And he takes a look

861
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.920
at the paper and he says,
look, I'm gonna put you on light

862
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.320
duty for four or five months to
all the holes here from this cruise.

863
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.760
And then he says, you know. I said, all right, doctor,

864
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.639
you know? And he goes,
you take a trade on the medical

865
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:23.679
yet, and I said, no
I have. So he said, want

866
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.760
to go take one house in Brooklyn? So I went over to the MS.

867
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:30.199
Guy goes over, puts the thing
on to come back with the EKG.

868
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:30.840
I give it to him and he
looks at it and he goes,

869
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:37.199
I can't fe be back to work. Yeah, he goes, you gotta

870
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.079
left bundle branch block And I said, you know what, dock dnny and

871
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:42.880
this guy didn't put those things.
I got a harry chest dock I gotta

872
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:49.760
shave. Let me shave. Oh
yeah, And you know it was like

873
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.960
pulling the heads out Kevin, because
those raises don't have no shaving crew.

874
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.480
So next thing I know, he
says, I never let anybody take it

875
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.679
twice, Crise, but I'll let
you take it again. So I went

876
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.880
in. I go to the MS
guy. I go, brother, the

877
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.880
hell did you do to me?
Man? You didn't put them things out?

878
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:05.880
I shaved. I came back.
I gave him the paperwork. He

879
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.239
looked at it, goes, I
gotta retire you. He says. You

880
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.239
know you're not gonna be able to
go back to work. You got a

881
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.440
major, major heart problem. So
he said, we'll keep you around and

882
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:20.039
we'll retire you with your knee,
but we're gonna keep you around to find

883
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:22.840
out what serious heart problem you have. And you know, they sent me

884
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.679
to Saint Francis and did a stress
test. And you know, I go

885
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.199
over there and I do a stress
test and all of a sudden, everybody's

886
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.760
leaving, people coming in before you
know, after me, and I'm like,

887
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:37.760
they nurse, can I leave?
Mister Redwids. Doctor wants to talk

888
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.320
to you, and I go,
shit, here we go, I said,

889
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.280
is that bad? She just wants
to talk to you. I go

890
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.159
in to Guy's office and all of
a sudden he looks at me and he

891
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.400
goes, mister Evers, what is
your appointment for your Cardiolois said, Doc,

892
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.360
I'm coming down to mar you know. He goes, no, you're

893
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.880
gonna go right now. I go
wait, wait a minute. I says,

894
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.639
it's that bad. He goes,
you know what an injection fraction is?

895
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:59.960
I said, I have no idea
fifty five to seventy five perus,

896
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.760
right, God, it was a
normal heart. He goes to me,

897
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.039
your heart's working at twenty one percent. He says, you should be on

898
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:12.239
oxygen and a wheelchair. And I
told him, I said, I feel

899
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.960
great. I really feel great.
And he goes to me, you're gonna

900
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.679
go see the cardiologist now. I
said, all right, I'll let me

901
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.280
go out to get my car.
I'll drive around to the other way.

902
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.599
He goes, no, no,
no, no no, I'm getting an

903
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:30.199
orderly to wheel you there. I
go, what they got a wheelchair?

904
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.159
Put me in a wheelchair. He
brings me to the other side of the

905
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:38.559
hospital and one of the greatest doctor
Joctor Robert Glatta, father, great,

906
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:43.159
great guy. Someone's good to me. But he walks into the room and

907
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.320
he goes, he looks at the
chart and great bedside manner. He goes,

908
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:50.280
mister rellits this is you. I
said, this is me. He

909
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.519
goes, I was expecting to find
an eighty year old man. I couldn't

910
01:02:52.559 --> 01:03:07.360
walk in a wheelchair looking at Holy
shit, Yeah, fucked you know the

911
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:16.920
Stanza what cancer get out? So
what eventually ended up happening is they retired

912
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:22.360
me on May first, two thousand
and two, the orthopedic doctor and I

913
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:27.440
went through this whole thing from September
and very very emotional, and she was

914
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.800
branded on the job. And when
when I when she knew that I wasn't

915
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.639
coming back, basically both of us, you know, I started crying my

916
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.719
eyes so she did. Thank god, I'm not the only one. Bro.

917
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.639
I remember getting the news. I
was crying like a baby. But

918
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:46.719
I called my brother let me back, Yeah, Kevin, and you know

919
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.880
what, yeah, I mean it
was it was heartbreak. And then she

920
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.880
goes, I'm gonna tell you something, Chris. You you set the bar,

921
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:58.920
the bar very high for anybody to
ever come down. She was just

922
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.920
starting off. Anybody comes in here
after all the things that you've been through

923
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:06.000
to try to stay on a job
as you set the bar very high for

924
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:10.039
anybody else that comes in here,
and you fall off the ship base and

925
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.679
get on the job wanting to get
off the job. You mean those guys,

926
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.719
Yeah, oh man, I you
know what it was? Christ What

927
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.880
did you? So that's where I
mean. This is when now you're retired,

928
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:24.000
you start your mind starts working,
and this is where you come up

929
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:26.880
with the idea, Like how did
the idea even come up with the book?

930
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.159
You know? Uh, Louis.
I felt sorry for myself for about

931
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:35.639
three years, and you know,
I was sitting sitting at home and I'm

932
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:40.679
very depressed and stuff. And so
what I ended up doing was I said,

933
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:45.239
you know, I got to go
to church. And I moved up

934
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.119
towards this town and called Sparrowbush.
I moved up here, and I just

935
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:51.880
like maybe about ten or twelve churches
in the area. So I went to

936
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:57.000
a Catholic church It's called Saint Mary's
and I went in there and I kind

937
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.840
of made a deal with God.
I said, you know what, I'm

938
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.119
gonna come here every single day and
you've got to tell me why bad things

939
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.960
happen to great people, Why like
nine to eleven. I had too many

940
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:10.679
questions, Why why take the lives
of great people? So I started going

941
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:13.320
to church. I went into church. I said, I'll come every single

942
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:17.559
day to you give me an answer. So after like after three months,

943
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.800
have gone every single day from nine
o'clock in the morning, five six days

944
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.280
a week. After three months,
I got frustrated. I walked out and

945
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.920
I'm looking in front of the church, and if anybody's seen, they probably

946
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.639
would have called the cops, thinking
I was nuts. I was screaming at

947
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.079
it in the front of the church. I said, you know, I

948
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:39.519
come out of every single day and
you haven't given me an answer. Yet.

949
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.440
I come to a house and you
haven't give me an answer. During

950
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:48.079
this time, I looked over to
my left and on top of Port Jervis's

951
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:51.400
an American flag on top of the
hill. It's called Point Peter. I

952
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.800
said, okay, God, you
know what, I'll come to your house.

953
01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:57.480
But then what I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna drive up to the top

954
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.000
of the mountain. I'm gonna get
a little closer to have and I think

955
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.960
you'll hear me a lot better.
So what I did, I got a

956
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:08.440
notebook black and white notebook, and
I drove up after church. I went

957
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.199
over, went to church, took
the book, went up on top of

958
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.480
the mountain and started writing these stories
about the shootings, delivering a baby,

959
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.039
brothers dying, and on jobs at
different things. I kept writing, writing

960
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:20.400
and writing. I went to church
for two and a half years. If

961
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:25.760
I missed ten days, that was
a lot. And I went every single

962
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.719
day. My wife said, my
wife goes to me, are you seeing

963
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:42.400
somebody I go to church? Yeah. Church. But I finally got about

964
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:47.800
six or seven black and white notebooks. And there was a woman that I

965
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.639
went to high school with and I
told her about it, and she went

966
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:56.000
she was going up community college up
here in Orange County, and I told

967
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.960
her about it. She goes,
Chris, I'd like to help you with

968
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.119
the books. Like I gave her
all the books. She put it into

969
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.480
a book for me. The books
were written. The book was written for

970
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:09.039
my children, only for my kids. You know, we have a clock.

971
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.079
If you were down at the World
Trade Center, we have a clock

972
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:16.320
that's ticking. We all know that
that's just being honest, and I know

973
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:19.639
that you know with the pace making. Now I got a paste makeing the

974
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:24.320
fibulator. You know where you got
to pacee makeing the fibulator. So I

975
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:27.519
know my time is limited, so
I figured out I want to get these

976
01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:30.840
stories out to my children so later
on, you know, when I'm gone,

977
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.079
All of a sudden, they could
say, you know what, go

978
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:38.079
read this about your great grandfather.
Go read this about your grandfather, read

979
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:41.239
about what he was. And the
stories were based on different things that happened

980
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:49.679
in my life that basically formed me
into who I became. And she gave

981
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:53.599
me a book for him and she
goes, listen, Uh, I got

982
01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:56.559
a couple of professors that would like
to read it. I said, listen,

983
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.000
I want to make it for my
kids, because no, no,

984
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.519
let me get it to these professors
and professors. All of a sudden she

985
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:04.039
comes back and says, Chris,
they love the book. Your message is

986
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:09.760
so profound. What you've got,
you know about hope, faith and never

987
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.559
given up. Because they gotta you
know, you gotta give it to somebody

988
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.159
else. So she says this to
me, and I say, you know

989
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.800
what, This woman Linda, her
name is Linda. She goes to me,

990
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:26.359
listen, Linda Lucas. She goes, listen, you know they love

991
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:28.880
the book, and they think you
should publish it. It's like, all

992
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:30.399
right, And I'm saying to myself, you know what. They work with

993
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.439
her, the professor, so they
like her. They know she's going to

994
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:38.319
work in a book, so they're
gonna say anything bad. So I go

995
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.840
to with Dinah where I go with
Stooi's over here and Madam more responsive Aania,

996
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.159
and I go in there and I
give it to a waitress named Diane.

997
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.000
Dan, do me favor read this
book? Tell me what you think

998
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:49.079
you wrote this? I said.
Yeah. She goes, oh my god,

999
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.399
Chris, I said, I don't
care. You could chew it up,

1000
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.720
spit it out. I don't care. I want your I want your

1001
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.399
opinion, you know, truthful opinion. So I come back in the week,

1002
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:00.920
she said, was crying. She
comes over to me. I'm so

1003
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:03.800
sorry, blah blah blah, said
Diane. I didn't want you to cry.

1004
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:05.960
I don't want it to be said. She goes, No, Chris,

1005
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:09.720
I laughed, I cried, I
laughed, I cried. I laughed.

1006
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:13.199
I crying. Just I can't believe
that you, you firefighters, go

1007
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.960
through what you did. And I
said, yeah, you know, I

1008
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.800
said, She goes, Chris I
loved the book. So I leave there

1009
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.319
and I go, you know what, Diane's got to say something nice,

1010
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:24.720
because I come in here every day
and I get it. I gotta leave

1011
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.880
her a tip. Still not still
not believing it. I'm not believing,

1012
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.960
you know. So what I started
doing is I joined the doll team year

1013
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:36.239
back in two thousand and five,
started traveling all over and h We're down

1014
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:42.239
in Texas and it's big a tang
guy Paula Panell. We're flying back from

1015
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.720
Texas and we got to go to
Philly and then for Philly Newburgh and he

1016
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.079
goes, ay, Edwards, I
heard you wrote a book. And I

1017
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.279
go, you know what I said
to myself, if I'm going to get

1018
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:56.600
a true opinion, give it to
a brother, because they don't give it

1019
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:02.039
in what they said to spit it
out you there's no mercy. So I

1020
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.520
gave it to him. And he's
sitting at the airport down in Texas and

1021
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:06.479
I'm looking at him. He's reading
it. He said, oh shit,

1022
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:09.960
POULI reading the book. So next
thing he goes, you mind if I

1023
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:12.000
read on the plane, go no
police. Next thing he reads it on

1024
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:14.119
he's on the plane. I look
at poly go shit. He's reading the

1025
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:18.039
book. So we land in Philly
and get a connect and fight the Newberg

1026
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.479
and Pollie comes over me with the
book and he goes, Chris, listen,

1027
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:24.319
I love the book. I love
the book. I said, what

1028
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:26.640
chapter you get up there? I
got up to chapter twenty three, I

1029
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.399
said, poorly, listen, you're
almost done. You only get twenty more

1030
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.319
chapters ago because no, no,
no, I'm gonna wait till your publish

1031
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.279
it. So I'm saying, no, I just finish. You're going to

1032
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.960
take it out? No, no, no no, I'm gonna wait to

1033
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:39.319
your finish. It gives me the
book back. So we land in Newburgh

1034
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.399
and Poorlie comes over me and says, listen, I love the book.

1035
01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:46.840
But I got up to the part
about your father and how your father suffered

1036
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.560
with through cancer, and he said, I didn't want to cry in front

1037
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:56.439
of anybody. He goes, I
don't want to cry, well, Paulie.

1038
01:10:56.680 --> 01:10:59.399
He goes, Chris, I'm gonna
tell you that book brought me right

1039
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.760
back into the firehouse. You might
be in the Bronx, you might be

1040
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.000
in Manhattan, it might be in
Brooklyn, Staten Island, Queens, wherever

1041
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:11.119
you work he says, it's the
same cast of characters. It's the same

1042
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.239
group of guys. No matter where
we go, every firehouse has that guy.

1043
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.560
And you know that's so. Once
I said it, I called the

1044
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.319
woman up and I said, Linda, let me tell you something. I'll

1045
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.359
publish it. She was, what
changed your mind? I said, it

1046
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.920
passed the Pauli test. She goes
to the Pauli test. Uncle Polly,

1047
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.039
I go, yeah, six foot
three, two hundred and fifty pounds,

1048
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:33.600
A tiny guy who's a fireman and
stead he liked. So that was it.

1049
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:39.159
That's how it all started. And
what happened was I felt funny taking

1050
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:42.760
money for it. So what I
did throughout the whole time as I went,

1051
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.520
I did fundraisers and fundraisers and book
silence. And what I did is

1052
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:53.119
I raised over twenty seven hundred dollars
for brothers. Kevin Rooney's wife Kevin was

1053
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:59.000
in forty two, passed away from
cats. I raised fifty teen hundred dollars

1054
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:01.720
for his wife. Ricky Scott.
His wife, April is suffering from a

1055
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:05.600
new Garb's disease. She has to
go get special medication. I did a

1056
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:11.520
fundraiser for her. I did his
fundraiser for the Special Olympics and gave them

1057
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.800
money. And I also did a
fundraiser for a local friend of mine down

1058
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:18.640
in town that had trying to get
a liver transplant. And what eventually ended

1059
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:24.439
up happening it was I raised five
hundred dollars for his family. So and

1060
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:29.439
now with the sales of the book, the book is because seventeen seventy six.

1061
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.880
And what I do was the reason
why it's seventeen seventy six is because

1062
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:36.680
that's how tall the Freedom Tower is. They wanted me to raise They wanted

1063
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.239
me to ask twenty five dollars for
the book, and I said no,

1064
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:45.039
I wanted to be substantial. I
wanted to be seventeen seventy six. I

1065
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.199
get five dollars from the book on
the sales. And what I do now,

1066
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:53.680
I'm not doing a fundraiser. I'll
go into a restaurant and I'll see

1067
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:58.239
an old veteran with a hat or
a firefight or an old firefighter. What

1068
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:02.399
I'll do is nice. I'll buy
their dinneral lunch or breakfast, and that's

1069
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.800
how I get back. It's funny, Chris, I do the same thing

1070
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:11.439
because I have an we have to
I have an ATM business, right,

1071
01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:15.720
So when I'm out there filling ATMs, I can't tell you how many people

1072
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.359
every single day, I say,
hey, why don't you give me some

1073
01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:20.560
of that money? Is that your
money? You know? Why don't you

1074
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.920
give me some of that money?
But there's sometimes and I walk into a

1075
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:28.800
place and somebody just starts talking to
me, and the sweetest, nicest person,

1076
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:30.319
And I wind up and I go
to the cashier and I say,

1077
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.479
hey, give me favorite buy the
breakfast for me, please, you know

1078
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.640
what I mean? And I just
walk out. I don't even tell them

1079
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:38.920
it's me. I just walk out, exactly, and I feel great.

1080
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:42.399
I do it two times a week
when I go out, I find somebody

1081
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.920
to give money to, and it
makes me feel good to the rest place,

1082
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.439
bro not what I'm in town.
But no, I never you.

1083
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:57.520
Well, I have to buy a
few because I know you got all away,

1084
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.319
all right? So you write the
book, Philly, Where's Philly at?

1085
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:04.119
Now? Where Billy picks up the
book? And Philly's gonna write a

1086
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:08.640
screenplay about the book? So yeah, where are we at with the screenplay?

1087
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.399
Now? Film? Where are we
about the screenplay? Where are we

1088
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:15.520
at? When we made podcast about
it right. Uh yeah, So in

1089
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:23.439
the early stages, Phil, all
right, you're puffin back day coming up

1090
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:34.560
for I'm Crucis. So it's around
November of twenty seventeen, and uh one

1091
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:40.319
of my best friend's moms, missus
Condon, she was actually a dispatcher I

1092
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:45.680
believe, for nine one one.
Oh yeah, and she told me,

1093
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:51.920
Uh, Philly, there's this firefighter
doing actor mixers at Murray or Murphy's Bar

1094
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:57.239
downtown near the Trade Center. You
should go check it out. So I

1095
01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:00.600
did, and that picture I showed
you is where I f I met.

1096
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:06.479
I'm positive it was firefighter Mark O'Brien
and Colin Quinn. And I brought my

1097
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:12.680
screenplay there because I wanted some feedback
and I wanted to do God's a good

1098
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.600
thing. I was just about to
jump all over your head, bro,

1099
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:21.359
I'm gonna wait till the show's over. Mister Colin Quinn, thank you so

1100
01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:26.680
much. That was great to meet
you again. I guess we'll reconnect.

1101
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.479
Gary Ramsey was also my teacher at
the Neighborhood Playhouse. Shout out Colin Quinn

1102
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:35.079
and rest in peace. Gary Ramsey. All right, so I wrote the

1103
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:39.560
screenplay. I'm trying to like,
just start shaking hands, just let him

1104
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.000
know what it is. I'm doing
what I planned to do. And I

1105
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:48.560
met Mario Polite that night he was
there, befriended him. He's a firefighter,

1106
01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:53.359
I believe, a lieutenant. Well, we've kept in touch and he

1107
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:58.600
knows a little bit about Fireland and
what I really wanted to do. Now,

1108
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:02.560
at this point, I actually converted
the screenplay because it was just it

1109
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:05.359
was too it was too short,
and the book is too big. So

1110
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:11.520
I broke it down into episodics.
So I stretched out the whole screenplay.

1111
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.880
All of it is useful, just
not in episode one, two or three,

1112
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:18.159
had to take up the entire first
season. So I went back to

1113
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:20.960
the book and I started seeing other
things where I could start filling in all

1114
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:25.520
the gaps I have. The Here
i'll show you, I have the entire

1115
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:32.960
the entire thing practically done. So
yeah, that turned me. Ready,

1116
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:40.159
my back's picking it up. The
whole thing, it's done. The only

1117
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:44.680
thing I gotta do, honestly,
is just filling the gaps the entire book,

1118
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.920
the entire episode, every single episode, a couple of acts accounted for,

1119
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:59.960
right, It's not so the show
is now working title called Fireland Episode

1120
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:08.680
one is now available as a demonstration
on a podcast play. And I really

1121
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:15.960
got to give a shout out to
Nancy Carbone at Friends of Firefighters. Yeah,

1122
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.439
like we just like I started meeting
all of you around the time I

1123
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:25.520
met her almost two years ago,
So Nancy is good friends, I think

1124
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:31.840
with Kevin Smith, and I listened
to him on a Joe Rogan podcast years

1125
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:36.279
ago and he was saying something along
the line on what Hollywood is kind of

1126
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:43.319
trying to do as far as getting
scripts some attention, and Kevin Smith mentioned

1127
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:49.560
that they're converting these stories into a
podcast presentation first to generate a fan base

1128
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:54.840
and get interest. So I thought
that was a brilliant idea. So instead

1129
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:58.399
of me actually nailing in scripts like
I had so much success with my head

1130
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:02.279
shot, I just thought, all
right, what if I did a theatrical

1131
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:10.600
presentation of Fireland as if it weren't
like an audiobook and just let people decide

1132
01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:14.760
whether or not if this is a
TV show they want to see. So

1133
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:21.039
that's exactly where we're at. I
started the Astoria Filmmakers Club and got all

1134
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:29.520
my friends and family from the Astoria
Filmmakers Club to perform in the pilot episode,

1135
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:35.560
and what we're doing is crowdfunding.
And I got that idea because that's

1136
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:40.520
what happened with Dallas Jenkins with his
TV show called The Chosen, which is

1137
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.720
out in theaters right now in season
four. It's a story about Jesus and

1138
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:47.319
it's a great what a phenomenal TV
show. Shout out Dallas Jenkins. But

1139
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:54.199
I love the idea that people get
to decide what type of shows they want

1140
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.199
to watch instead of Hollywood decided for
them what they're going to watch. So

1141
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.560
that's the model more or less I'm
going for because, like I said,

1142
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:06.039
everybody has a story to tell,
but sometimes reading becomes a job. We

1143
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:12.319
want to hear the story first.
So through the Story Filmmakers Club, what

1144
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:15.920
I would like to do is actually
have it be an original production and original

1145
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.960
TV show directly through us. And
if people want to actually see this show

1146
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:26.119
episode per episode, per episode,
per episode, season to season, they

1147
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:30.600
donate directly to the charity the charity
produces the show. They watch the show

1148
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:35.560
for free. Where is that bro
They donate to the show by go into

1149
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:41.079
a story of filmmakers dot org.
You'll see a donate button and you'll see

1150
01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:45.239
the campaign for Fireland. You could
listen to Fireland the podcast play for free

1151
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.039
on all streaming platforms I believe,
which I do. Now you could do

1152
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:55.239
that. Yeah, it's good.
Yeah, it's been a We released episode

1153
01:19:55.319 --> 01:20:01.279
one, Hell'sgate on September eleventh this
past year, which takes you through Proby

1154
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:05.399
School. Yeah. So yeah,
you'll actually get to get an idea of

1155
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:12.720
characters. Characters the introduction on year
one, so it's set in nineteen ninety

1156
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.439
two, and we're going to be
following their journey leading all the way up

1157
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:21.079
to nine to eleven in just nine
short years away. Are you guys talking

1158
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:25.159
like all the time about it or
no, it's kind of past that point.

1159
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:29.880
You mean as far as like me
and Chris. Yeah, well,

1160
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.600
I mean we've spoken about it,
prayed about it, and we really wanted

1161
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:39.880
it. Like like we're sharing the
podcast and I'm telling people like you guys

1162
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.720
on what the point of it is
and how to get involved because it's going

1163
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.760
to be an fdmy collaboration story.
Like even if anybody has an idea for

1164
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.000
an episode, I'm probably going to
find out during the making of it where

1165
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:55.119
we're going to implement like true stories, because that's what the story is really

1166
01:20:55.159 --> 01:21:00.800
about. It's not so much about
these characters. The main character of Fireland

1167
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:04.399
is the fire Department, and that's
basically what we're going to be seeing and

1168
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.960
it's going to be when I listened
to it, there's not really one main

1169
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:14.680
character as Lieutenant as the Proby's Yeah, and there's not really one character that

1170
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.279
you zone in. How do people
like I see here? Text Fireland to

1171
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:23.279
this phone number? What does that
do? That brings you directly to our

1172
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.720
website. We have a hotline and
you'll be able to see You'll actually be

1173
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.720
able to see the campaign. You'll
get a full description on what the story

1174
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:34.960
is about, and it'll also take
you to a link on how to listen

1175
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:40.920
to episode one. So that's text
Fireland f I R E L A N

1176
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:44.560
D two. The number is six
four six sixty eight one two eight one

1177
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:48.119
zero. Yep. Now, how
do they like? You were just saying,

1178
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:53.000
like, if people I listen to
it, I forget what you sent

1179
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:56.960
it to me. And I listened
to it on I don't remember how I

1180
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.279
listened to it. Well, it's
on Amazon Music, if you tell in

1181
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.800
Fireland Podcast, Yeah, it's on
Amazon, It's on Spreaker. It is

1182
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:11.880
on YouTube. It's on Soundstify.
I don't know to Spotify, but I

1183
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.920
know it's on YouTube. All right, I'll think a little bit. What

1184
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:17.000
so, this is what I want
to ask you do. Yeah, I

1185
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:21.279
could listen to it on spreaker.
What you were saying that guys, people

1186
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:27.199
will instead of Hollywood dictating what's coming
on people with dictate how do how do

1187
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.640
the people that are listening to this
now, how do they like vote for

1188
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.279
it or promote it? Like?
How do they do that? Well?

1189
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:40.640
With that link, you could share
the campaign anywhere on social media. You

1190
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:45.319
can either make a donation directly or
help raise money, and you could become

1191
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:48.640
a fundraiser yourself and you could challenge
your network to donate up to say,

1192
01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:55.079
one hundred bucks, and if you
spread that onto say Facebook, everybody could

1193
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:58.760
chip in five bucks and you'll hit
your goal and then that money will go

1194
01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:02.079
directly to the making of firearms.
Put it on a fan page tomorrow.

1195
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:08.239
Oh thanks? So? Uh you
know, we're almost eighty thousand people on

1196
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:13.840
that bro On the fan page,
people see it well, fun like that's

1197
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.680
actually how I met one actor in
particular, was through the fan page.

1198
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:20.880
Last summer. I was looking for
some help if anybody wanted to, like

1199
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:28.119
maybe jump in and be a voice
Deputy chief shout out Chuck Adams. I

1200
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:33.159
met him on the fan page and
now also from New Orleans, and there

1201
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:38.079
was a little bit of a there
was a little bit of hesitation from the

1202
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:41.439
fan page. They weren't sure if
this was spam or legit or not.

1203
01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:44.479
I think I remember that, Phil, Oh, that was us. That

1204
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.520
was me and Chuck is like,
Yo, it's legit and here we are

1205
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:53.159
on the podcast. You pretty wow. So that's what I mean full circle.

1206
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:59.119
Like, it's just we'll get back
to Chris. What does your dad

1207
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.079
say about that film? Like,
is he pumped about it? Like,

1208
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:05.399
what does he think about it?
Fireland? Yeah, like I know in

1209
01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:11.800
his own way, he's very proud. It was Uh, I think it

1210
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:14.920
was. It was. It was
a look like it was tough for him.

1211
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:16.960
As as for me, for me
not becoming a firefighter and being an

1212
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:24.319
actor, because it's not Yeah,
it's not a likely thing to happen when

1213
01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:29.079
you act, between getting on the
job and becoming an actor or doing anything.

1214
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:31.720
So I kind of go back to
what you asked before on why I

1215
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:35.319
even started the AFC is because I
couldn't get a job, and I wanted

1216
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:40.720
to create a community where it's sort
of like its own ecosystem, where you're

1217
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.800
not trying to break into Hollywood.
I'm just saying, why don't we just

1218
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.920
create our own Hollywood? What would
it look like? And that's exactly what

1219
01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.920
I built. So, I mean
it's huge, right, I mean it's

1220
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:56.840
it's it's so tiny and small.
But I got a thousand filmmakers on our

1221
01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.039
Facebook group. Yeah, it's crazy, we're growing. It's not that it's

1222
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.800
really not that complicated. The ultimately, you want people to watch your movie.

1223
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:08.239
You know, that's the ultimate goal, whether it's on streaming or in

1224
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:12.319
theaters, that that is the ultimate
goal. But before that, you have

1225
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:14.800
to write a story, and some
people just don't know how to do that.

1226
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.439
So through our nonprofit, on Sundays, we have what's called the Writer's

1227
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:23.319
Room where if you don't know how
to write a story, where you want

1228
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.119
to learn how to write a story, or you have one, that's a

1229
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:30.079
space where we start. And then
we always had mixers live and in person

1230
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:33.520
every Wednesday night in and around the
city and definitely online to just kind of

1231
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.600
bring people to the table and you
got an idea, great, let's talk

1232
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:43.520
about it. So by Sunday we
would have read something, and most recently

1233
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:47.920
now we actually produce something. And
we got a mixer happening on Saint Patrick's

1234
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:51.000
Day this year. We're going to
be getting together just to kind of say

1235
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:57.239
goodbye to the winter and hello to
the spring. And now we also have

1236
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:06.000
yeah. But so basically now we
have like, say, you have all

1237
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.239
these scripts and you have to shoot
a movie. A lot of these people

1238
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:12.760
have already filmed the movies before,
but there's nowhere to show them. So

1239
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:16.760
I created the Triborough Film Festival,
which is New York City's exclusive Battle of

1240
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:20.439
the Burroughs, where you got best
actor, you got best writer, best

1241
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:26.520
director, and we hosted that in
the last two years at Kaufmann Astoria Studios

1242
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.399
at the Zupper Theater. And it
was just basically what got me on the

1243
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:34.399
radar from I guess the New York
State Assembly where they said you're doing a

1244
01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:39.199
great job. Here's a citation,
And at first I had no idea what

1245
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.199
they meant. I thought I was
getting two tickets and getting in trouble.

1246
01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:47.079
But no, I guess this was
a good thing that I'm doing and it

1247
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:53.319
was really validating. Yeah, that's
arena she represents. Uh. I think

1248
01:26:54.520 --> 01:27:00.520
Assemblyman Chang and the let me question. Let's say a new guy who had

1249
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:06.199
a great idea for a nineteen seventies
war year TV series, how would he

1250
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:11.239
go about getting somebody to write that
if he had a good uh one page

1251
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.359
and he had a good outline for
a script. You see how he did?

1252
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:18.720
That guy? You know what?
You know what? Hold on before

1253
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:24.880
he even says anything else. When
Jill was talking, I was looking at

1254
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:29.800
Koob's and I'm like, there is
no way that little beam that canser in

1255
01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:39.159
that Bro. I knew. I
knew it was coming outlined for a show.

1256
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:44.720
Bro, Who would I say to
I already? Well? Uh me,

1257
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.760
I'm the president? Oh maybe did
he know not only is the hair

1258
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:55.800
club president, but he got cous
before I had an idea? Hey,

1259
01:27:55.920 --> 01:28:00.720
Chris, uh, since this is
all happening, right, if you find

1260
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.119
yourself because you know, Phil was
saying that possibly you might want other stuff

1261
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:06.760
to fill in some of these things. Do you find yourself wanting to write

1262
01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.840
other stuff? Like? Are you
doing that in the book or in your

1263
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:15.119
little pads or anything? Is bubble
notebooks? Yeah? As a matter of

1264
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:20.520
fact, I started writing another one
about a trip on the trip we went

1265
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:25.279
on the Daar Team and I started
doing the Daar Team I two thousand and

1266
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:27.439
five. I started, like I
was telling you, I was sitting there

1267
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:31.960
feeling sorry for myself, and I
got involved with the Daar Team. I

1268
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:35.279
went down to Katrina for three and
a half weeks with a firefighter, Johnny

1269
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:38.560
Silent, and we spent three and
a half weeks thet there. And that

1270
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:43.760
trip was like something out of you
know, all the prayers that I've ever

1271
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.239
given in my lifetime during fter nine
eleven are like all came in a point

1272
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.640
at that trip and that I'm working
on that right now. And I got

1273
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:54.840
probably about probably about five thousand and
six thousand words I'm going by and I

1274
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:59.319
still got more to do. But
that's an overwhelming story of so many different

1275
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:01.279
things. And in the book there, you know, it's a lot of

1276
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:04.720
things I wrote. I wrote in
a book about things that happened. You

1277
01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:09.079
know, some people call them weird, some people call them strange. I

1278
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:12.039
think it's like a divine intervention.
A lot of these things that happened,

1279
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.560
Like I wrote about a mosaic that
was given to me by a woman down

1280
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:19.680
in Missouri, Missouri, you know. And then the connection between that and

1281
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:25.640
the way it came about that to
bring back to my firehouse was like overwhelming.

1282
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:30.920
The woman in Missouri ended up going
uh. She lived in near Lake

1283
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:38.000
of the Ozark. She travels four
miles miles four hours to go upstate in

1284
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:43.359
Missouri and drives by a school that
has a sign that says art auction in

1285
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:46.399
the school on a weekend, this
woman walks in and she goes over It

1286
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:50.359
is a beautiful mosaic. She goes
over there and she puts a bit on

1287
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:55.000
it, and she just happened.
This woman just happened to be the owner

1288
01:29:55.079 --> 01:30:00.399
of a excavating company who I who
on nine off and I to eleven.

1289
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:05.039
She sent me these beautiful Norman Rockwell
statues of firefighters. She wanted me to

1290
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.800
have her. I never met her
before. And then all of a sudden

1291
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:11.840
I had to go out and I
had a house out there, and I

1292
01:30:11.920 --> 01:30:14.560
was taking all the stuff out of
the house. Just so happens I was

1293
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.439
out there at this time, and
I stopped over there to just thank her

1294
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:20.359
for the you know, for these
statues, and next thing, you know,

1295
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:23.680
she goes me, listen, Chris, Oh my god, I can't

1296
01:30:23.720 --> 01:30:26.319
believe you here. I said,
yeah, Rosie, I came in and

1297
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.760
say thank you for you know,
the statues and stuff. Next thing you

1298
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:32.000
know, she says, I have
something for you, but I didn't know

1299
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:38.000
how I was going to get it
for you. And she goes behind the

1300
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:42.800
counter. She takes this white shoot
off and there's this four by four by

1301
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:48.680
five probably about three by five beautiful
mosaic all tile work of an American flag

1302
01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:51.199
blowing in the breeze. And she
says, Chris, I want you to

1303
01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:54.800
take this, bring it back to
your firehouse, and give it to the

1304
01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:58.600
guys in the firehouse. So I
was like overwhelmed. So we take it,

1305
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.720
put her on the way like one
hundred fift pounds, and put in

1306
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:03.159
her back in his pickup of a
U all. And now I'm taking it

1307
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.760
back to the city, back to
New York. I'm driving across. So

1308
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:10.159
I get on the phone. I
called my brother who lives in Missouri.

1309
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.960
I'm talking to him about the trip, and he goes out of everything work

1310
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:15.239
out. I said, great,
but I said, you know what,

1311
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:18.039
I got to stop by Jerry Riedles
house. You know his business, and

1312
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.479
his wife gave me his beautiful giant
mosaic. I didn't know what the word

1313
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:25.600
was. I just said, a
beautiful picture of an American flag blowing in

1314
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:28.159
a breeze. So he goes,
what does it look like? I said,

1315
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:30.720
it's made out of like a little
pieces of tile. So my brother

1316
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:32.479
goes, how big is it?
I tell him, and then all of

1317
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:34.119
a sudden he says, you know
what, hold on, you got to

1318
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:39.720
talk to my sister in law.
She gets on the phone and she goes,

1319
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:41.880
Chris, what does it look like? And I tell her and she

1320
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:44.680
goes, what does the woman look
like? She's got red hair. She

1321
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:48.840
goes, Chris, a woman came
in to our school up in parts of

1322
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:55.279
Carnie, Missouri. And she came
in and she bid four hundred and fifty

1323
01:31:55.319 --> 01:32:00.039
five hundred dollars on this mosaic,
and she goes. I asked what she

1324
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.560
was going to do with this mosaic, and she says, I'm buying it

1325
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:10.520
for a friend who's in New York
City. Fireman. That mosaic she bought,

1326
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:13.479
she auctioned out. That was auctioned
out, and she bought it from

1327
01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:18.079
his from my sister in law and
I took that mosaic, drove down.

1328
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:23.000
We got him in the back of
forty six truck. It's hanging on the

1329
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:27.560
wall and around the pictures of the
brothers who were killed. And those are

1330
01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:30.319
some of the stories. And there's
other stories like that. This. I

1331
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:33.960
like those that's there, you know, And these are things I embraced.

1332
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:35.800
And I think a lot of it
had to do with you know, I

1333
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:39.920
mean, if if I didn't stuck
going to church, man, who knows

1334
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:43.000
where I was just gonna say that
I went to church, though, bro,

1335
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.119
you know, I don't know where
we were. Hey, Chris,

1336
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:47.159
what is that? What is that
above your head? That writing? What

1337
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:51.600
is that above your head? Behind
you? Oh? Oh? Fill or

1338
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:57.000
me you Chris? Oh? I
got. What happened was how we called

1339
01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:00.039
one was killed in the Bronx.
He was working for two Engines, working

1340
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:05.800
over in seventy five thirty three on
eight Well, Michael Riley. And what

1341
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:11.399
I did is we went out and
we went out to Colorado Springstent and Memorial.

1342
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:15.359
They put how his name out of
the memorial in Colorado. And when

1343
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.920
I went out there, I took
the names of Kevin Riley, Kevin O'Reilly,

1344
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:26.079
I etched the names off of the
uh Dave, the other one,

1345
01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:30.640
the one that's directly over you ahead, which one to one long one,

1346
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:34.399
the big one, oh, directly
gotten right here. Yeah, those are

1347
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:38.399
the names the faces of all the
brothers that were killed on nine to eleven.

1348
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:41.680
That's the post. You've seen that
one hundred thousand times. Oh,

1349
01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:44.680
I can't. I can't see from
you. No, I could see it.

1350
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.479
That's kind of I got a bed. I think it's time for a

1351
01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:53.720
thicker set. I think it's time
for If you see this, yeah,

1352
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:58.640
if you see the etchings on the
wall over here to my I guess yea

1353
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:00.880
pencil, you know what I mean. Yeah, I gotta get around.

1354
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:04.880
He's of the etching from the memorial
out in Colorado Springs. Like I said,

1355
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.960
I got Kevin, Kevin O'Reilly,
Dave Wise, Paul tag Maya,

1356
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:15.359
Vinnie Holler, and Dennis saw Mohica
from Rescue one. Chris Blackwell his name

1357
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.159
is also on that. Got mikeah
Rumba. I got Dennis Devlin, Jerry

1358
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:23.079
Shrank from from Rescue three at the
time. And what I did is I

1359
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:25.720
took all of us off. And
as a matter of fact, Kevin Riley

1360
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:30.000
Kevin O'Reilly who followed George Riley worked
in my firehouse as a lieutenant. George

1361
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:34.039
was a great man. He worked
in forty truck. George ended up Kevin

1362
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:39.800
ended up being working in Kevin's house. He actually worked in. Uh,

1363
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:45.640
Kevin actually worked in his house and
was detailed to Brooklyn and on nine to

1364
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.880
eleven Kevin was killed. So what
I did is I went out, when

1365
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:53.800
I went out to Colorado, I
etched it, put it in a frame,

1366
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:58.119
and I gave it to George and
his wife. And uh, you

1367
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.960
know, Jerry Schreng was another one
that I I wrote Jerry I worked,

1368
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:04.119
you know, I worked in seventy
five thirty three. Dennis Devlin. It

1369
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:06.960
was another great, great man I
work with. You know, he was

1370
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.680
just seventy five thirty three. And
you know, I go through the list

1371
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:14.640
and those are the guys that carried
with me. Paul Tegmy I actually came

1372
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:20.000
into eighty one and forty six,
And a crazy story was about about almost

1373
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:24.720
a year before Paul came into the
firehouse. I was playing in a sawball

1374
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:29.199
tournament down in Georgia in over forty
and all of a sudden, the guy

1375
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.680
I'm playing ball with it. Just
we picked him up and the guy goes

1376
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:33.239
to me, Oh, you're in
New York City five min I said,

1377
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:36.279
yeah, I got a good friend
of mine getting on a job. I

1378
01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:38.920
said, really. He goes,
what's her name? He goes, oh,

1379
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.560
paul Tegmy. I said, really, you go help? You know.

1380
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:43.840
He goes, but he's kind of
old, he's like forty years old.

1381
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:45.560
I said wow. I said,
oh, do you know where he's

1382
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:48.840
gonna work? He goes, No, I don't know where he's gonna work,

1383
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:50.600
but he lives up in Hyde Parks. I said, if he lives

1384
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:54.159
in Hyde Park, he probably work
in the Bronx. So going back and

1385
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:56.760
forth, that was the end of
it. I go back to the firehouse

1386
01:35:56.800 --> 01:36:00.520
and all of a sudden, eight
months a year goes by in the fire

1387
01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:02.920
I say, Chris, we got
a new proby coming in. So I

1388
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.039
go, oh, man, okay, now I'm ready to go sit at

1389
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:08.960
the table. You know, you're
drooling. I had to wipe the drool

1390
01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:14.159
off my face the baptism. The
baptism at that table. So you know,

1391
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:16.000
next thing, you know, guy
walks through the back door and he's

1392
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:20.600
limping, and I go, oh
shit, I go you to detail.

1393
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:25.239
He goes, no, I'm the
prob s you're the proby and you're walking

1394
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:27.760
like that. He goes, yeah, I go what's your name? He

1395
01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:32.640
goes, Paul tegmya Paul Techmara came
into my firehouse. And a year later,

1396
01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:38.079
oh this you know what, lou
I got all the stories about how

1397
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:43.239
things come to a complete circle.
The biggest thing is now Eric Taber,

1398
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:47.640
Eric Tegmayer is now in the New
York City firefighter Paul's son. What ended

1399
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:51.800
up happened? It was I was
out and I did a lot of work,

1400
01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:55.560
did a lot of volunteer work with
the tunnels to Tower and they have

1401
01:36:55.560 --> 01:37:00.199
a nine eleven museum that travels around
the country. And I'm out in I'm

1402
01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:03.680
out in Indiana and we're at the
FDIC and uh, you know you have

1403
01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:06.760
at the very end of the fdi
C they do a parade where everybody goes

1404
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:11.960
and walks around the stairs. So
I'm out there with Steve Wall, Lieutenant

1405
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.600
Steve Wall for forty two inches.
So we're standing out there and all of

1406
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:16.680
a sudden they start to, you
know, march up the stairs. And

1407
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:25.800
the first person I stopped to see
who she's walking for is Paul Tagmeier and

1408
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:29.039
I start crying my eyes out.
Man, I get emotional. The woman's

1409
01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:30.760
like, oh my god. I
go no, no, you don't understand.

1410
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.439
I work with Paul, you know. And then and then all of

1411
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:39.920
a sudden, a couple of people
later stop somebody else and it's Dennis Moheka.

1412
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.119
I never worked with Dennis, but
on that on that Saturday, the

1413
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.560
sixth story stairwall, I was in
the hole that we got Dennis's body out

1414
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:55.439
about three o'clock and the afternoon and
I was in the hole taking out his

1415
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.680
body. The next person, three
poor people later, Dennis Mohekas comes by

1416
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.319
with the picture on and it was
overwhelming. So what happens is I go

1417
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:05.560
back to the hotel and I'm standing
in the hotel and God be my witness.

1418
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:09.920
I'm standing in the hotel and I
look up and I raise my hands

1419
01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:13.279
into this guy up to the ceiling, and I go, Paulie, thank

1420
01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:16.479
you so much for that beautiful message
you just sent me. Thank you so

1421
01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:24.359
much, And lou God be my
witness. My phone starts vibrating and I

1422
01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:30.199
look at the phone and it's Eric
Tagmaia, Paul's son calling me up.

1423
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.399
And I'm like, I look at
it, go wait and maybe I maybe

1424
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.920
I accidentally dialed him or whatever,
you know, And then all of a

1425
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.359
sudden, I look at the text
and he goes, Chris, you know,

1426
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:42.880
I want to you know, I
just wanted to tell you. I

1427
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.560
hope you're doing well. I haven't
talked to you in a while, but

1428
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:47.800
I just want to tell you.
I'm graduating. I'm getting on the job.

1429
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:51.119
I'm graduating on Thursday down in Brooklyn, and I want you to be

1430
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:58.880
a guest. This kid calls me
up. When I got my hands extended

1431
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:01.800
in this guy looking at and talking
to his father. And what ended up

1432
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:04.840
happening is I tell him, listen, You'll never eric, you never believe

1433
01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:09.720
it. I just went and seen
I sent them the I got a picture

1434
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.079
of a woman too. I sent
them a picture, and he goes,

1435
01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:15.520
you know, Chris, that's how
my father works. That's how my dad

1436
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:20.319
works. Where Chris, I get
back, I go down to Brooklyn.

1437
01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:27.439
I go over and I stood there
and watched the kid become a New York

1438
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:31.000
City firefighter. He comes in the
back and I'm standing there and he looks

1439
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.920
at me with a big smile,
and you knew he couldn't hug me.

1440
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:36.880
I wanted to get my hug.
But eventually at the end of the day,

1441
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:42.439
you know, he went up and
brought him up and they interviewed me,

1442
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.000
asked me if I wanted to be
interviewed, and I talked about his

1443
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:47.600
father, and I said, you
know what, the kid's got the eye

1444
01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:51.359
and a tiger, he has a
he has a guardian angel that's watching over

1445
01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:58.159
him that I can attest to.
And and these just something some of the

1446
01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:02.439
things that have happened. Well,
you know for us, when where does

1447
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:06.760
the kid work? Where is he
working? He works in fifty eight fifty

1448
01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:12.560
eight truck he's got he's working with
Joe Joe Prince, they called the Prince

1449
01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:15.880
Prince. Yeah, he just yeah, it's a great he he went into

1450
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:19.680
his house, so he was with
him for a few years and and the

1451
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:23.680
captain just retired. He's a great, great guy. Prince. Well,

1452
01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:26.399
we tried to get him on the
show, but it's not his style.

1453
01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:31.399
He's yeah, he's you know what, he's uh, he's very emotional like

1454
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:35.000
we all are. And I think, you know, there's things that we

1455
01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:40.039
can talk about, and there's things
that we break down about and I you

1456
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:45.079
know, you know a lot of
people don't understand. You know, September

1457
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:51.079
eleventh to some people are one day. September eleven to us is every single

1458
01:40:51.479 --> 01:40:56.079
day. You know, on September
eleven, you get email, You get

1459
01:40:56.119 --> 01:41:00.760
emails and text message and phone,
phone calls and everything. You know,

1460
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:02.039
every one of us get it,
you know, hope you do well,

1461
01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:04.880
hope you doing what we do.
Then all of a sudden, you know,

1462
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:08.680
the next day comes, two,
three days, a month, two

1463
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:11.279
months later. You know, they
kind of like set back in place.

1464
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:15.960
But we carry that with us every
single day for the past, you know,

1465
01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:19.640
going on twenty three years, and
you know, you look for those

1466
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:26.399
great messages, like like Eric Tedmeyer, you know, the great messages that

1467
01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:30.520
we get. And I mean,
that's kind of like another reason why I

1468
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:33.920
sat down and wrote that book,
because I want everybody to understand about fate,

1469
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:38.159
hoping, never given up. Those
are three things that we live with,

1470
01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.760
you know, from the day of
the world trades underny attacks, those

1471
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.800
are three things that we've lived with
for twenty three years. You know,

1472
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:51.359
I appreciate I appreciate you guys so
much for giving Phil and I the opportunity

1473
01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:55.399
to come on and h and at
least you know, tell our stories.

1474
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.119
I mean, I really appreciate it
that I wanted to ask Phil, Phil,

1475
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:02.840
sir, hanging out being around your
dad and seeing you think you were

1476
01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.359
able to capture that in a show. You think you're able to capture what

1477
01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:11.600
talk to even explain? Put it
to words? What the love of the

1478
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:15.600
job with the Oh My dad retired
out of the Rock. He worked for

1479
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:19.479
MSU in the last few years of
his career. So I spent a lot

1480
01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:24.920
of time at the Rock. I
got to meet these guys, got to

1481
01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:28.680
listen, got to eat with them, had to do the dishes. I

1482
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:33.159
understood, I understood the game.
So to capture that cinematically, it is

1483
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:41.560
possible. I recently rewatched Rescue Me
just to kind of get an idea on

1484
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:48.600
what they did. I've watched everything. I know how to watch a film.

1485
01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:53.479
I know how to critique a film. I know how to instruct a

1486
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:57.399
cinematographer on this is what they did, this is what was wrong, because

1487
01:42:57.439 --> 01:43:00.920
this is what we have to capture
the out of YadA. So I understand

1488
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:08.640
the language of the business. I
guess it can be done. You gotta

1489
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:11.479
have the uh, you just got
to have the right you gotta have the

1490
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.319
right actors who actually put in the
work and actually spend time at the kitchen

1491
01:43:14.359 --> 01:43:16.439
table or else. It's just going
to be disingenuine. It's not going to

1492
01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:18.800
be authentic. It's going to be
a performance, and it's going to be

1493
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:24.560
it's there's going to be a disconnect
where you're not going to capture the brotherhood

1494
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:28.000
because you haven't walked in the shoes. It's just, you know what's funny

1495
01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:30.319
you say that, Phil, I
never watched Rescue Me. But if I

1496
01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:33.640
have watched a snippet of it and
guys are at the kitchen table, it

1497
01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:39.800
doesn't seem it seems like, well, if you think about Rescue is if

1498
01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:45.159
they have every single like every firehouse
is a guy who's drunk. Every fire

1499
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:47.399
house has a guy who's a gambler. Every firehouse is a guy. This

1500
01:43:47.560 --> 01:44:00.199
firehouse has everybody in the same guyouse. Like, I'll never say a bad

1501
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:01.439
thing about Rescue Me. I thought
it was a great I thought it was

1502
01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:08.239
actually I think it was the closes. The closes, it still seems a

1503
01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:13.920
little it's well, like there's like
like like there's two different ways to describe

1504
01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:17.520
why that is it's because you guys
listen to the radio, you could hear

1505
01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:24.000
how a song is being performed.
You can listen to the exact same song

1506
01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:28.960
live at Madison Square Garden and it's
a totally different experience. That's the difference.

1507
01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:34.199
To capture something cinematically, it's going
to be a little bit more challenging.

1508
01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:40.039
But I think you make up the
difference when you watch something in theaters

1509
01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:46.000
because uh, it's not so much
what you're watching that leaves that impression on

1510
01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:49.199
you, especially when you watch it
for the first time. It's everybody who

1511
01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:56.119
you're with simultaneously together watching that same
thing that leaves that oppression on the same

1512
01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.399
time. So that's that's that's the
connection right there. I gotta tell you

1513
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:01.640
very much edition out there because I
watched I try to watch them of the

1514
01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:04.279
Fight Apartment shows out there right now, and I'm like, holy shit,

1515
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:11.279
these suck man, They're just so
they're terrible. You think the missing element

1516
01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:15.800
is somebody that actually works the spot, like you said, having that bringing

1517
01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:17.880
that realism. And even though actors
can be good and bring certain things to

1518
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.960
the table, but if you don't
have a guy that's filled those shoes,

1519
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:25.560
it's hard to capture it. I
mean to the t like for those guys

1520
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:28.840
that worked that table, to bring
that realism to the screen. Fill out

1521
01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:32.560
my suggestion to get all fine,
and they're the only ones you can bring

1522
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:39.840
it to the screen. They can, uh Like, Fireland is based on

1523
01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:45.039
true circumstances. It's based on truthful
characters where it's almost like these characters are

1524
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:50.239
a little bit fictitious, not exactly
cliche or stereotypical, but they are exactly

1525
01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:56.159
what the reflection or the parallel or
the mirror image of the firefighter is.

1526
01:45:57.199 --> 01:46:00.520
And that's what I wrote, That's
what I was going for. The podcast

1527
01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:05.039
made very well articulated audibly, which
would be a little bit challenging, especially

1528
01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:11.920
what just actors. Just give me
the basics. It's definitely there, but

1529
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:16.520
it's more than possible to pull off. You hire guys with tickers. I

1530
01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:24.560
mean like you got a Christian Louis, you got cam. There's so many,

1531
01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:27.680
there's so much room. I started
out as a background actor. I

1532
01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:34.680
highly recomend got to be right at
the top. Let's put up. Let's

1533
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:40.079
put up the file and the piece
that we got guys, the little uh

1534
01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:45.960
h, yeah, thirty seconds,
whatever you want to good three minutes,

1535
01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:49.359
like you want three minutes? Is
that what you're good about? Like if

1536
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:54.000
you want to do it all the
way up until the end of the monologue,

1537
01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:57.720
that's around the five minutes six minute
mark. That's a good taste of

1538
01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:00.840
the demo. And I guess but
the audience listen to that? All right,

1539
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:02.680
you guys, ready, here we
go. We go for it.

1540
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:21.520
The Astoria Filmmakers Club proudly presents Fireland. It was a cold, windy day

1541
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:25.960
on Randall's Island. The sky was
gray. I couldn't see where the sun

1542
01:47:26.039 --> 01:47:30.359
began or the clouds ended. No
shadows can be seen from any direction.

1543
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:34.840
Probably stood scattered in the center of
the academy. They call it the rock.

1544
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:41.000
In two parallel lines, they were
cheering, whistling, yelling his name.

1545
01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:45.640
A female cadet, Rita is sprinting
between the parallel lines of cadets,

1546
01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:49.359
closing in on an overweight proby Oscar. We see the Amtrak train in the

1547
01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:55.439
distance, passing by over the academy
gate. Oscar tigs his teammate Jake,

1548
01:47:55.560 --> 01:48:00.960
and he sprints towards a smoky building. Rita tags Ben and he sues Jeke.

1549
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:04.840
The parallel lined cadets break ranks and
close the lane and watch Ben chase

1550
01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:11.880
Jeeke to the final obstacle course,
Let's go ship. Lieutenant Ian, the

1551
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.479
lead instructor at the rock, is
heard in the distance on a loud speaker

1552
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:20.920
sixty seconds, followed by a loud
roar of cadets urging Ben and Jake to

1553
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:26.000
move it. Jake takes a sledge
hammer and hits the MTA bus. There

1554
01:48:26.319 --> 01:48:30.760
a drill surgeon guides him. Ben
closes in on Jake and whales the sledge

1555
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:34.000
into the tire in short spurts.
Jake hits the tire harder and harder,

1556
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:39.600
but causes the hammer to bounce off
the tire, losing his momentum. Ben

1557
01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:43.479
meets Jake at the finish line and
they walk quickly to put on full firefighter

1558
01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:47.880
gear. They both dress at equal
pace, wearing boots, gloves, jacket,

1559
01:48:48.079 --> 01:48:53.439
helmet and irons. They both enter
a wooden box tunnel and crawl their

1560
01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:56.920
way in the dark. Ben exits
the end of the crawl space tunnel holding

1561
01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:00.159
its teddy Barren hands the drill instructor
waiting for Ben return to the start of

1562
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:05.039
the tunnel, undress, cross the
line, take the bag to your COO.

1563
01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:10.479
Okay, yes, sir. Jake
exits his tunnel with a stuffed animal

1564
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:15.000
two an ox walk quickly, do
not run. Return to the start of

1565
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:19.119
the tunnel undress. Then you can
cross the line. Okay, who are

1566
01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:23.760
sir? Okay? After you cross
that line, give the animals to your

1567
01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:26.359
CEO. What are you looking at
me for? Do it? They strip

1568
01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:30.239
off their gear and lay the jacket, helmet, gloves, irons, and

1569
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:32.560
boots on the table. At the
start of the wooden tunnel. Ben is

1570
01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:36.000
able to put on his sneakers and
tie them. Running a moment before Jake

1571
01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:43.960
ten nine eight seven. Ben,
followed by Jake, sprints back towards the

1572
01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:48.359
cadets at full speed as Lieutenant Ian
continues to count down on a loudspeaker from

1573
01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:53.439
the inside of a fire truck.
The cadets reform the lanes, opening the

1574
01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:58.159
view of the finish line. At
the finish line is a large firehouse bell

1575
01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:02.520
from the late eighteen sixties. Ben
sprints between the lines of Roaring Proby's.

1576
01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:06.960
With one second to spare, Ben
crosses the line meters ahead of Jake.

1577
01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:12.760
The company goes wild. Lieutenant Ian
sounds the rig's horn at the count of

1578
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:16.680
zero, Jake rings the bell.
One full second after the rig horn blows.

1579
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:20.760
Michael runs up to Ben ahead of
Bravo company, giving him a high

1580
01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:26.880
five and slap on his ass.
Yeah, good job, Benny. Other

1581
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.479
Proby's continue to congratulate Ben. Jake
is seen pissed off that he lost.

1582
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:35.520
Jake refuses to talk or acknowledge anyone
in the company who attempts to console him.

1583
01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:40.640
Lieutenant Ian gets out of the fire
truck and closes the driver's side door

1584
01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:44.399
behind him. Oh yeah, great
job. Have you just lost to a

1585
01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:46.960
bunch of women? Now hydrate and
falling? Come on, We see Ben's

1586
01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:51.279
face after he's trying to catch his
breath. Alex and Rita are among the

1587
01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:55.920
last to congratulate Ben as they hustle
to get water. Awesome, bro,

1588
01:50:56.520 --> 01:51:00.640
good job Ben. Yeah. Thanks. The company hustles to the fountain and

1589
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:05.000
drinks water, then walks to the
horse shaped water fountain with his arms down,

1590
01:51:05.159 --> 01:51:09.479
still holding the teddy, He looks
at it. It was old,

1591
01:51:10.039 --> 01:51:14.520
burnt mildly round the back. Its
facial features, eyes, nose, and

1592
01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:18.359
mouth were gone, melted away,
smoky and graying as if it were barbecued.

1593
01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.600
Ben takes a deep look at the
bear. Are you going to keep

1594
01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:27.319
that? Nope? Then stops staring
at it and let's go. Ben takes

1595
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:30.520
a drink from the running fountain.
The cold wind fans the water into Ben's

1596
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:35.439
lips. He takes one swallows.
On the second sip, he rolls it

1597
01:51:35.560 --> 01:51:39.720
down in his mouth and spits it
out. He jogs to the line.

1598
01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:44.760
Three hundred cadets at attention. Lieutenant
Ian is standing waiting for the company to

1599
01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:48.880
stand at full attention. Ben jogs
up to Lieutenant Ian. Sir. Lieutenant

1600
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:53.600
Ian takes the bear, already holding
the ox in his other hand. Ben

1601
01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:57.760
runs into line. Lieutenant Ian looks
at the bear as if they've known each

1602
01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:00.960
other his whole career, and Ian
begins to pace across the view of the

1603
01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:06.560
cadets and addresses them all eyes forward
as they listen carefully. So where were

1604
01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:14.159
you? That is the question?
Were you there? Someday the time will

1605
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:17.439
come when you look yourself in the
mirror, older grayer, and you'll ask

1606
01:52:17.479 --> 01:52:21.920
yourself, where were you? What
did you do? You want to keep

1607
01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:26.159
going film? Well, I ask
yourselves now what that answer might be?

1608
01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:31.800
Well, I did my job,
anything everything I had to do. Yeah,

1609
01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:35.079
that's good guy. That they will
come and you'll have to any but

1610
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:42.399
so so that reminds me of a
couple of times when we were in the

1611
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:46.239
car I listened to like the Civil
War or something like that, right,

1612
01:52:47.039 --> 01:52:53.079
and it's just exactly like that story. Yeah, yeah, almost like you're

1613
01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:56.920
reading the book. Yeah right,
it's a book on tape. That's why

1614
01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:00.520
I listened to them all the time, audio books. That was what I

1615
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:04.239
was going for, because I just, honestly, to get your screenplay,

1616
01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:08.439
to get your script in front of
a producer, to give them the time

1617
01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:12.439
to actually sit and read it.
It's the chances of that happening are probably

1618
01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:16.920
a million to one, or more
could be into one. At least with

1619
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:21.399
this, they don't have to work. They can listen to it first,

1620
01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:27.000
get the get the vibe on what
the story is actually about, and if

1621
01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.319
the public actually shows interest and is
actually donating to it, then that's it.

1622
01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:35.399
Like the decision is already halfway made. So where can these guys listen

1623
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:38.800
to this again? So let's get
guys, let's get some interest in this

1624
01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:45.279
guns. Yeah for sure, it's
Chris Christi's thing. I don't want to

1625
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:49.079
mute him out too much, all
right, So we have the you have

1626
01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:55.079
listened to it on speaker, right
Foland on speaker you got speaker, you

1627
01:53:55.159 --> 01:54:00.359
got YouTube, you got Amazon Music, uh, SoundCloud, that's possible.

1628
01:54:00.399 --> 01:54:04.720
It's on iTunes. I just didn't
really check there. And uh if you

1629
01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:09.960
type in Fireland podcast play or even
if you go to a story of filmmakers

1630
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:15.119
dot org or text the link,
it's all going to bring you to the

1631
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:18.359
audio presentation. I'll just got to
find the link. There we go,

1632
01:54:19.159 --> 01:54:24.520
text text Fireland for the link to
six four six six eighty one to eight

1633
01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:27.840
one zero. Okay, Chris,
Is there any shoutouts that you want to

1634
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:30.840
give anybody that you're working for,
any anything, any donations or anything that?

1635
01:54:32.840 --> 01:54:36.720
Uh no, I mean, it's
it comes down to the uh.

1636
01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:44.800
You know, whoever purchases book five
dollars goes to a good cause, to

1637
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:51.560
a right now, it's either a
veteran, uh most likely an older veteran,

1638
01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:55.840
you know, even a young guy
or if I see a disabled vet.

1639
01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:58.840
One of the biggest, one of
the best ones that we have right

1640
01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:02.159
now is the speed Incilla Tummas the
Tower. That's probably one of the best

1641
01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:09.600
that they have out there right now. It's on Amazon christ Uh No,

1642
01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:12.600
it's not on Amazon, but I
mean, if you want, they look

1643
01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:16.119
for eleven dollars donation a month for
everybody. I mean, I was saying,

1644
01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:20.640
if if every firehouse in New York
City could take uh, you know,

1645
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:25.000
the meal money, and everybody put
a dollar in, you know,

1646
01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:30.279
by the end of the month,
you donate eleven dollars a month profile ass

1647
01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:34.640
and the money goes basically to help
us first responders. It also helps the

1648
01:55:35.039 --> 01:55:44.000
young guys coming back with totally disabled
injuries. I have Frank Silla's cell phone.

1649
01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:45.720
Let me give him a call because
I went to Proby School with Steven

1650
01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:50.439
Silla, so I'll try to give
him on the show to Uh, that's

1651
01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:55.319
great. I mean at one point
we were trying to do that. Have

1652
01:55:55.479 --> 01:56:00.399
every firehouse in New York City donate
eleven dollars per month, have to do

1653
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:04.920
throwing a throwing fifty cents every meal
if you've got a double house, you

1654
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:08.159
know. Yeah, but that's not
I mean, we were doing the wounded

1655
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:11.239
war I mean, those guys are
doing a lot of stuff even at the

1656
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:14.720
firehouse, right yeah. Yeah,
we we had the metal box for the

1657
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:17.399
wounded warriors. We you know,
we did, come on, it's every

1658
01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:23.479
every meal you're throwing in money for
there's more than enough money throwing to Uh

1659
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:28.119
yeah, oh yeah, that was
a ton of you know, every dollar

1660
01:56:28.239 --> 01:56:33.920
donated to the to the Silophone Foundation, ninety five cents goes directly to help

1661
01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:41.119
now they're trying to help the homeless
vets. You know. So it's it

1662
01:56:41.279 --> 01:56:44.439
definitely is the greatest one, greatest
foundation. No, it is. And

1663
01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:46.880
you don't what's the legacy like you
said, keV, you know it's Steven,

1664
01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:50.199
so it's his legacy. Yeah,
it's a great, great course,

1665
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:54.880
you know, like Mack Wolburg.
They got to Wolburg. You know,

1666
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:56.800
we we we'll get we'll get him
money, you know, all right,

1667
01:56:56.880 --> 01:57:02.520
roofy you know what I'm saying.
We'll get the smith knows him. Great

1668
01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:05.439
story, Chris, great story,
Phil, thank you, thank you,

1669
01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:09.760
everybody in the chest. Get this. Let's get this, mad dude,

1670
01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:12.720
because we got some ship firefighter shows
out there. Bro. You know,

1671
01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:15.279
no, it's really no, it's
like that's how I'm going to present it.

1672
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:17.279
If you want to listen to it
first, this is the best way.

1673
01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:21.199
If you truly want to watch this
show, you donate, we'll produce

1674
01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:26.199
it. Like that's that that's it. Yeah, you walk into a place,

1675
01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:29.399
you go listen to me. You
walk into uh paramount, you say,

1676
01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:30.760
listen, they're all ship out there. You got a ship. I

1677
01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:36.560
got a good show here. Everything
out there is ship. That That's that's

1678
01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:41.199
what I like for the ten million
to one. It's really about having it

1679
01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:45.319
cross your desk at the right time. But honestly, Kevin Smith made a

1680
01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:47.920
great point like, if you're listening
to it first, you're gonna find the

1681
01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:54.800
right script sooner. Right. What's
that? What's that line you used again

1682
01:57:54.920 --> 01:57:59.199
the early in the show? Oh
yeah, read doors? What was that?

1683
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:01.439
Yeah? That's see when when you
walk through the red when you walk

1684
01:58:01.479 --> 01:58:06.000
through the red doors, that's considered
the b and you're walking into a new

1685
01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:11.399
T shirt there roof, I think, and then you hear it. You're

1686
01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:15.439
walking into a new life and you
get baptized at the kitchen table. You

1687
01:58:15.479 --> 01:58:18.720
get baptized. That you get born
when you walk through the doors and you

1688
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:26.279
get a baptized berth table. The
canal, I'll try to catch bird canal.

1689
01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:33.239
You gotta down in it. You
walk through the birth canal, walk

1690
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:39.560
through the red doors. I get
to the kitchen table and it's baptized,

1691
01:58:40.119 --> 01:58:43.600
baptized at the kitchen table, you
know what I mean, Yeah, something

1692
01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:47.520
like that. Yeah, that's it. Man, you walk through those front

1693
01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:51.800
red those big red doors. Man, that's A and B one of the

1694
01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:56.880
greatest lives that we've had that we
were able to share. You know,

1695
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:03.399
that's the best job in the world. Man definitely uses well. You know,

1696
01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:06.199
if Phil became a big movie star
and he was pulling in like,

1697
01:59:06.319 --> 01:59:10.279
you know, eighty million dollars of
film, maybe we'd say Chris got a

1698
01:59:10.279 --> 01:59:13.560
better job. But you know,
I'd be producing a lot of movies with

1699
01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:18.640
that type of Yeah, Bro,
that'd be great on Zony checking in listen

1700
01:59:18.680 --> 01:59:23.119
when it gets made it to a
you know, Netflix series or something.

1701
01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:27.079
You know I mean, I mean, Louis what the hell? Bro with

1702
01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:29.800
my name is ski Don. If
you're looking for a guy, would go

1703
01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:35.600
If you're looking for like what do
they call extra, listen to the podcast.

1704
01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:41.359
I mean there's there's you never know. I already did. If you're

1705
01:59:41.359 --> 01:59:45.720
looking for a guy with a big
head, getting Gonzoe, we can just

1706
01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:49.319
keef you want to be you want
to be the body double for the Love

1707
01:59:49.399 --> 02:00:05.119
Season? Get the body double?
A wow wow Wow, fantastic guy.

1708
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:14.840
Got no nothing do we have?
Uh we haven't d now. Oh that's

1709
02:00:14.920 --> 02:00:17.479
right, we do before we get
let's say, I'm gonna say it again.

1710
02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:23.119
Uh, what it is? Vinnie
Done coming on Ruffy a couple of

1711
02:00:23.119 --> 02:00:26.800
weeks. A couple of weeks,
we're doing a Q and A with Vinnie

1712
02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:30.640
Done, the Legend. Send your
questions to Coubes podcast dot gmail dot com.

1713
02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:34.960
If you want your questions answered by
I don't have to go to.

1714
02:00:35.279 --> 02:00:44.880
If you want to answered by the
goat Vinny Done, send him into Coobes

1715
02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:48.680
podcast at gmail dot com. We'll
post what day he's coming on first.

1716
02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:53.239
Oh you know what, do I
take back every bad thing I said about

1717
02:00:53.279 --> 02:00:58.479
you? Good for you? Good
for you? March twenty first Sending your

1718
02:00:58.600 --> 02:01:01.199
questions for Vinnie Done. All right, played a commercial down, So here

1719
02:01:01.239 --> 02:01:04.960
we go go. The First Responder
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1720
02:01:05.119 --> 02:01:11.359
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1721
02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:15.319
research initiatives aim to bring greater awareness
and understanding the challenges to the health,

1722
02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:19.880
safety, and well being of firefighters, EMS personnel, and other first responders

1723
02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:27.479
too. They are an affiliate of
the National Falling Firefighter Foundation. Okay,

1724
02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:30.479
tonight, I could this be any
more? Playing dude as plain as the

1725
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:40.159
giant crooked nose on my face?
Bro, and what me listen Tonight's old

1726
02:01:40.359 --> 02:01:43.680
school health and safety tip of the
day. I'm going to beat you over

1727
02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:47.279
the head with it. And the
guy sitting to my left over there,

1728
02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:57.159
see him over there, this guy, he's living. Go get yourself checked

1729
02:01:57.239 --> 02:02:03.159
out. Early detection, early detection, early detection, get it done.

1730
02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:06.840
If my brother and my father had
done it, they would still be alive

1731
02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:12.880
today, right, Roofie, Can
I get an amen from that? Roofie

1732
02:02:12.960 --> 02:02:16.600
went to Rob Brown, he picked
up a blockage, and matter of fact,

1733
02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:19.479
he had two blockages. Right,
They put in one stand covered both.

1734
02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:23.560
And now my buddy's going to be
around for another forty years, so

1735
02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:26.560
I can torment the living ship out
of him for another forty years. Bro,

1736
02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:31.760
Maybe I should have went, We'll
be friends for eighty years. I

1737
02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:35.720
want to thank Billy got a goal
for coming on tonight, Bro, me

1738
02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:45.800
get what his And I want to
thank Chris for coming on. Bro.

1739
02:02:46.119 --> 02:02:48.560
Dude, Like I said before,
you look better today than you did when

1740
02:02:48.600 --> 02:02:53.600
you were younger. Bro, good
for you excellent. Good glad you Chris,

1741
02:02:53.720 --> 02:02:56.720
glad you found your way. Bro. Yeah, you know what.

1742
02:02:56.960 --> 02:03:00.560
Hair is overrated? Bro, hair
is overrated? About it? All?

1743
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.119
Right? Back? Who we got
on Monday? Rough? Do we have

1744
02:03:03.159 --> 02:03:09.399
anybody for Monday? I don't remember, give me a second. I just

1745
02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:13.239
you do not have anybody? We
need to know? We need somebody Monday

1746
02:03:14.039 --> 02:03:19.800
wide open? WHOA maybe? Bro? Get Phil Senior on there? All

1747
02:03:19.880 --> 02:03:24.640
right? Well, part two,
part B, I'll ask him. Part

1748
02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:30.560
B, well, we'll push uh
Phil's podcast and hopefully uh we get that

1749
02:03:30.680 --> 02:03:34.800
made into a TV series, probly, I think so, with starring Luis

1750
02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:41.439
Frano and Kevin Coogler, with Chris
Edwards and and Gonzo. Uh, I

1751
02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:44.920
don't know. I'll be something.
I think Gonzo. I think they have

1752
02:03:45.000 --> 02:03:54.279
a spot open for Fluffer. Oh
man, I'm waiting for the remake of

1753
02:03:57.800 --> 02:04:02.359
Who Loves Your Who Loves Your Baby? Chris, guys in the chat old

1754
02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:13.640
enough to know who that is?
That's it? You're right right, all

1755
02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:16.079
right, guys, Phil, thanks
for coming on, Bro, Thank you

1756
02:04:16.159 --> 02:04:20.159
for a lot of conversations. I
hope finally goes well. Chris, good

1757
02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:23.880
luck and everything you oose the job, it comes right out of you.

1758
02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:26.880
Everywhere. Bro. Once you're a
fireman, You're always a fireman. There

1759
02:04:26.920 --> 02:04:30.880
you are Firelin for the Lake.
Yep, yeah, for sure, Chris.

1760
02:04:30.960 --> 02:04:32.319
Let me ask a quick question.
Are you born a fireman or is

1761
02:04:32.319 --> 02:04:39.600
it something that's made. I'll tell
you what. If you got pop time,

1762
02:04:39.880 --> 02:04:43.239
you're born. If you don't have
pop time you made? All right?

1763
02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:45.600
All right, there you go.
I gotta say, mate, based

1764
02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:50.039
on everything I've ever read, even
though I had, you know, falling

1765
02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:54.119
all time, it was different.
It was different. I was born.

1766
02:04:54.239 --> 02:05:00.279
I was I walked through the big
red dolls. Bro. Bro, you

1767
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:06.960
know what I tell you some funny. My wife's gonna kill me, you

1768
02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:11.279
know. I tell my two young
ones by eleven and twelve year old,

1769
02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:14.159
I go, you know, you
came through mommy's faginal. Now I'm like,

1770
02:05:17.199 --> 02:05:23.039
I'm like dead man. That was
all right. We'll see you on

1771
02:05:23.159 --> 02:05:25.680
Monday. Rookies. Gotta go.
He's gotta relax, he's gotta go do

1772
02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:29.239
ya. He's gotta do some meditation. We don't want the hot rate to

1773
02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:31.000
get up too much. For he
said he's got a brand new ticket.

1774
02:05:31.079 --> 02:05:35.000
Man. That's just like I Bro. We'll see you guys on Monday.

1775
02:05:35.079 --> 02:05:41.520
Phil Christen to lend guns. Let
me kid. God love you guys.

1776
02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:44.840
Thanks so much boys. We'll see
one. Everybody all right, guys,

1777
02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:45.840
see you the top. Good Night,