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it. Autopsy report first on the slab Phoenix Suns. This team got exposed
and that's probably putting it nicely by the Denver Nuggets. And while I don't
think anything needs to be made about only them losing the way that they did
to the Phoenix Suns, I think we obviously saw a team so desperate to
try and replicate what they gave us a few seasons ago that it's hard to
imagine what what this team is going to look like now with everything that's been
committed. With the roster as is currently constructed, the roster, let's use
that word very very lightly. Well, do you want to use roster or
roster right like I'm saying, because like you may have to actually you may
actually need to be on something in order to come down from the from the
high the Suns. The Sons have six players next year, two of them
were non guarantees, and Campaign and Chris Paul are two of those guys.
Uh So I don't know. I don't know. You stripped the roster uh
to acquire Kevin Durant age thirty four coming up from the pulled increase, but
still all the same talent, paramal law inside Booker and there were times there
were flashes in the playoffs who it looked like, damn, those guys might
be able to get it done. Um, but I'm going to fast forward
here, obviously to Game six against the Denver Nuggets, no Chris Paul,
no DeAndre and they get land based. To me, I'm looking at it,
and I'm framing it differently from the embarrassment that was last year against the
Dallas Mavericks. That was a beat failure and let down, but this one,
not to say is excusable, but they were down and yet and now
the starter eight and had played every game in the series except for that one,
and Chris Paul obviously had missed, you know, from from Game two
until that one as well. To run with that cast of having campaign be
out there and Tory Craig and and Damien Lee and TJ Warren and a Koge
and guys like that, that that's just not where you want to be as
as a roster. So Monty Williams becomes the latest victim of cancel coach culture
in the NBA. And I understand the black and white of what happened,
but to me, the parameters of this here are different from last year completely.
But if you want to roll it all in a ball and say cool,
he's the guy. Now he's the scapegoat. Fine, if you listen
to a World report, it should be has come in and has kind of
graded and fought against Monty Williams from the time he's been there since I guess
February, and now James Jones's role is being reduced something it should be is
basically running the team and not James Jones. As as as a general manager,
I don't know how it's gonna go. And we saw how that went
for Cuban. I think at times when he was in Dallas and he was
trying to really have his hand in all of the decisions that that usually goes
a little bit left. Yes, you got Kevin Durant, but again you
you gutted the roster. And I'm sure he's willing to pay whatever he wants,
but they don't have the ability to just say, yeah, let's just
run this back and see what happens and what we do in terms of continuity
next year. And now I got to bring a new coach into this as
well. Um, for me, Phoenix is uh, it's it's it's a
sad story because this is a team that was in the NBA Finals a couple
of seasons ago, had a two old lead. Maybe they're taking that in
the account as well too and saying that maybe he can't get it done,
get it done in big moments. But you know, it sucks to see
money Williams goal because you know, we like him on the baseline. But
ultimately the Sun, the Sun's team is flawed, but it's not all his
fault. Yeah, so the Sun's team is flawed. It's not all his
fault, but he does he is very culpable for how do I put this?
The lack of versatility that he was he was incapable of exhibiting and the
most critical times. Okay, Now I got to parse that out because the
players go out and they play this game. But that's not what the excuse
should be, right in justification, In the justification of firing Monty Williams,
you just don't fire a head coach who has arguably gotten this Phoenix Suns team
two how many times in the playoffs now four years consecutively, right, three
years, three years in the row, three years in the row? Was
it was he was he the head of the bubble season. They didn't make
the playoffs and then they came out was like the first season three years and
but bubble season, it felt like they were playoff they were playoff worthy,
right, yeah? Remember, and everyone was like, oh, they're the
bubble dogs. Were playoff worthy and and and we want to give money Williams
his flowers for that, because you looked at that roster and you were saying
to yourself, the hell, like, there's nobody going to take notice that
this team is actually a good basketball team, and you fast forward now to
what took place here. To me, I'm gonna put more than onus on
James Jones on this, Okay. And I'm not saying this because I don't
like James Jones. I've loved a lot of the moves that James Jones has
made, and I obviously understood I think he read the writing on the wall
like this was probably his last all in move that he could possibly make to
even give any indication that he wanted to see this Phoenix sunse team go all
the way. But my problem has always been in the type of roster that
you have. If you'd lean into heavily, do you have enough on the
back end to be able to help execute what you're probably not going to be
able to get from even your best players through the courses that of the rest
of that season. Right if this was a move that was made at the
beginning of the season, Shaw, how likely would we have seen will we
be talking about the Phoenix Suns at the way that we were talking about them
going through what they were. Remember they were they were a below five hundred
team before they had basically made that move. They weren't exactly like you know,
head and shoulders, one of the better teams or anything like that.
Everybody knew something probably had to be done to this roster because it just wasn't
It just wasn't working out, which is part of the reason why, you
know, you could have questions about whether or not Minie Williams lost the voice
in that locker room in some degree in some respects, you know what I'm
saying. But even adding Kevin Durant to the mix. I just felt like,
as much as I wanted to buy into the level of dominance that could
potentially be for this team, I didn't think it was good enough dealing with
the type of teams that they were going to be surrounded by, even if
they did get into the playoffs. I just think it's too daunting of a
task and I just don't have that confidence that I had like two years ago
when they did make it to the finals and had to play against the Milwaukee
Bucks, about whether or not they've got it in them to run it through
the way. People potentially keep trying to say that they saw within these guys
just with the small sample size of games that they played, I just wasn't
completely buying it. And it's just interesting to me because again, if guys
don't come in with the same mentality, with the same quote unquote level of
desperation about what they're trying to do, what they're trying to achieve and accomplish,
it could go. It could go sideways real quick. And we're not
gonna say that, We're not gonna talk about that, but that's exactly,
in my opinion, what happened here. That's as great as Kevin Durant is
what that team needed, what that team ultimately required, they never had it
because either Chris Paul was injured or he wasn't playing at that level that he
gave you three years ago, you know what I'm saying. So, like
a lot of this, it to me comes down to, well, where
you get that. You're gonna get that from Damian Lee. You're gonna get
that from from Jessica Kogi, you know what I'm saying, or Tory Craig
or whoever else was on the roster at that time. None of that was
happening, and it all bore fruit when you saw Devin Booker and Kevin Durant
get stymied by a good deep basketball team like the Denver Nuggets and a lot
of other teams that the Phoenix Suns would have had to go through if you
ever thought that they were going to get to an NBA finals. So because
they have multiple teams to get to I'm not going to go into the full
maybe assessment here, but I think something has to happen with DeAndre Ian.
I think they need to move and that was and that it tim again to
me, is a mistake. Resigning eight I just to me, But now
that they have him, I think they need to basically try to trade him
for multiple guys because you have to fill out the roster of the guys that
are going to be actual free agents. Tory Craig, Darius Beasley, Bismack
Byambo, Damien Lee, Josh Kogi, TJ Warren, Jack Londale. How
many of those guys it's Wainwright. How many guys do you want to actually
bring back and pay a significant luxury tax money for maybe two of those guys.
I think Landale is probably Landale has earned his right to be on this
roster, so you bring him back to some degree, maybe Damian Lee,
maybe a Kokee, maybe even t J. Warren, but he probably wants
to go get a bag somewhere. Um To me, Aighton is an obvious
move. You try try like hell to move him and see if you can
get you know, a big that can help you, and then maybe two
or three other parts because you don't really have draft equity now as a result
of Kevin Durant trade, they will try to kick the tires on the Chris
Chris Paul trade. Don't think there'll be any takers there at sixty million dollars
at thirty years over the next two years, again not guaranteed money, so
they could try to buy him out, But then where does that leave you
out with? With nothing there and one less roster, one less roster guy
on you on your team. So to me, it's it's it's Booker.
Sorry, it's eight in that you try to move hope KD stays healthy and
you fell out the rest of this roster otherwise, and you're already one hundred
and sixty five million dollars right well to six guys. Well here, well,
here's my thing. Whoever you're gonna bring in as the head coach is
gonna is gonna have to really evaluate on and what tempo or style of offense
does this team play at its most effective and its optimal level. I really
think whoever the next coaches should be needs to be unafraid and unabashed about the
idea of possibly having Chris Paul come off the bench. And I know that
sounds foolish, and I will say that now. Well, what I'm saying
is is that they need somebody to elevate their ability to move up and down
the court more effectively. Right um to allow Booker and Durant. I there
is to me, there's more fluen. Now, whether you want to,
Hey, maybe you insert Cameron Payne if you believe that that's the dude,
fine, No, But that's what I'm saying. They have to make a
decision or a choice about what version or if it's gonna be, you know
what, move Devin to the point. But at some point the idea I'm
not what I'm trying to say is you can't have Chris Paul, Devin Booker,
and Kevin Durant on the court at the same time and expect to win.
Chris Paul can't stay on the court enough. And obviously Chris Paul and
the way that he plays, I think is counterintuitive to the way that Booker
and Durant are and their ability to get open and get shots and open up
space for the floor. I think it makes Chris Paul an anomaly, so
to me. But again, it's gonna come down to the head coach to
day higher now since they've now gotten rid of Montie Williams, because I think
Monty Williams may have probably taken the off seas to figure out a way to
implement that with Chris Paul. But to me, it'll always be Chris Paul
not being healthy or Chris Paul really not being in the requisite shape for the
way that Booker and Durant need to play for the Sons to have the kind
of offensive scoring efficiency for necessary for us to believe in their dominance. Well,
and and again, I think your point is is very valid about the
coaching situation. So again, if I go back to Monty Durant was healthy
for what eight nine games in the regular season after they acquired him, that's
not enough time. Yeah, he's plug and play like anybody else, but
it's not enough time, especially when Chris Paul goes down and then DeAndre eight
misses your last game as well. I'm sure money wanted at least one crack
at this, one full crack at it with whatever roster to just to try
to get the continuity at the top of the roster in place, and that
just didn't happen. So ultimately Phoenix bows out here with lots of questions when
it goes it comes to the offseason, not a whole lot of draft equity,
if any at all, and already one hundred and sixty five million dollars
and committed sally with just six guys on contract, outlook is looking like what
for them next season? Shaw? I mean, it just depends. Now
Again, it's funny you mentioned James Jones, because if you believe the world's
report, if Jones feels like he's being undermined in some capacity, but does
he just walk off the job? So are they looking at now a general
manager or pleasure in the basketball operations, whatever you want to call it.
And the coach. You know, we have the draft lottery coming up,
We have the draft coming up here in a month, and that of itself
too. A lot needs to be figured out, you know. So that's
what I'm saying. It's it's kind of very much in flux. And anytime
we do an octopsy report and now one of the main pieces in terms of
like the coach has gone, it's hard not to figure out what the team
is going to look like in the following season because you don't know what the
strategy of that coach is. So we are kind of like headless here or
a boat without a rudder, as I say, don't know what directions are
heading in. But they need bodies, what types of bodies? That's going
to be dependent on who they hire as a head coach. All right,
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the New York Knicks, fifth best team in the Eastern Conference, made it
to the Eastern Conference Semifinals, got knocked out by the Miami Heat. But
you know, if you are a New York Knicks fan and I and I
often say this because I often feel like New York Knicks tend to be very
very like now is everything needs to happen. Now is very spoiled in some
regards. I take this season as an even more positive season in the season
that they showed us two years ago right where it looked like to what many
people believed, is that they overachieved because the following season they obviously struggled mightily.
It's amazing to me that even after the effort that you got, while
all of the praises about Jail God, Jail Brunson, that's he's the dude,
and you know, like, oh, that was the smartest move made.
And you know what I'm saying that you know, forget you know,
uh, Donovan Mitchell and all of that stuff. We need to trade Julius
Randall. And I'm just sitting here saying, my god, can can you
at least acknowledge that you had a good basketball team that competed and arguably was
two games away from maybe even going to the Eastern Conference Finals. You really
had no business even being even in that level of the conversation. And it
wasn't because they lucked themselves in doing it. They earned it, Man,
The Knicks earned this opportunity for us to talk about them in a good way,
Shaw because they've got some good players who can actually get better, not
worse. They can actually get better. And shouldn't that be the focus of
conversation for a team that had forty seven wins, got to the Eastern Conference
semis, and arguably gave the Miami Heat a run for their money. Knicks
don't like to have nice things. Oh man, damn it. Listen.
I will say I was a little surprised that they handled Cleveland in the way
that they did. I thought that was gonna be a longer series, and
I thought it was a pick them, to be honest with you, not
surprised that they be in Cleveland, but they handled Cleveland and to dispatch them
in five games. And I'm sure they felt like they were the better team,
and as many teams are probably felt so far against Miami Heat. They're
more talented top to bottom, but they didn't have the requisite you know,
um fifty will And while there's some question about whether how healthy Randall actually was,
you know, he came back and he was on the floor. Then
once you're on the floor, you know, listen, all bets are off.
Nobody wants to hear that you're you're banged up or your bruise like you're
out here. And then if you can't play it, then don't play at
all. Um. And now you're seeing you know, burning jerseys and tearing
down his posters, and now we're back on that again. Um, after
what Wilson all a type season from the guy. You know, it's just
if I like, you know what, man deuces, I'm like enough with
you people like straight up and down. You know what Julius Randall is is
an offensive version of Charles Oakley. And I don't see them burning Charles Oakley
jerseys. You know what I'm saying. But do you think Charles Oakley was
gonna go out there and give you twenty five freaking points a game? You
know what I'm saying that, I mean, it's amazing to me. I'm
not saying that I'm fawning over Julie. I like Julius Randall, I really
do. I genuinely liked him, has always liked him when he came out
of Kentucky, and I don't think he's ever really he gotten a fair dig
you at times. Shaw, Have you even said, you know that guy
Randall? That boy chucks up shots. He's a ball hall and rightly so,
you know what I'm saying. But he gave the New York Knicks an
opportunity, a window for them to make the kind of moves that they've made
to put him in this position, and we're not even giving him that kind
of credit. It's just like, it's amazing, he's not the reason.
He's not the reason they lost this. Yeah, exactly. Fibbs also was
a little bit stubborn, obviously had a run guy since the ground and that's
neither here or there. But the team, especially in this playoff run versus
Miami, specifically lack shooting. And then there's some people was like, well,
at some point, you at least have to dust off Evan Fournier,
who you're paying, you know, eighteen nineteen million dollars a year to at
least give it a chance. I'm not saying he's the answer, but you
gotta give him a different LOSSI you gotta counter Exactly, there was there were
more moves that Eric Spoelscher made that even if they did or they didn't work
out, there were still moves being made. It still changed the look or
the dynamic of the way that the New York Knicks had to play, whether
it be offensive or defensively. And I think that's what it boils down to.
Fibbs is so defensive minded that he didn't want to take the risk of
forty again and exposed defensively in any capacity to even give him a chance to
come out there and shoot some three balls, and you alluded to it,
I think you know earlier on another show with clickly quickly being out the last
two games, that just limited their offensive options so so so much. And
while again he's not the end all be all savior as well too and you
just needed more options offensively. So that's what makes it more a little bit
of an indictment for me that Bibbs didn't try to at least search down the
little bit the bench a little bit further and say, all right, forty,
let me give you four minutes. See what you can do for me
if you can knock down a couple of shots, and if you fail,
you fail. But now that's just kind of a bullet you've never shot.
It just kind of stayed in the chamber and ultimately you get dispatched the six
games and you know, hey, shout out to Jalen Brunson. He nearly
brought them back. The Knicks had a chance to win game six, and
again you never know what happens in the games, having especially on your home
floor. But we didn't get to that. We didn't get to that.
But I want to actually really talk about someone who I really think I don't
want to say the ire should be be focused on him more, but I
really feel like if now, if there's ever a question of what moves can
possibly be made by Leon Rose in improving this basketball team, I think now
is the opportunity for you to really evaluate and say, where does RJ.
Barrett fit on this roster? Where does he fit on this team? Let
me tell you what I mean by this, Shaw, The moment that Emmanuel
quickly went down is the moment that RJ. Barrett needed to step up and
utilize his point guard skills to help offset or take the burden off of Jalen
Brunston, who is constantly getting throttled by traps and double teams. You know
what I'm saying. By the Miami Heat and that to the credit of Eric
Spoelstraw recognizing that they didn't have another primary ball handler, that that that that
the Knicks could rely on. To me, they were so focused like Knicks
fans are so focused on Barrett shooting the basketball. Damn it. Barrett's ability
to dribble, penetrate and allow Jalen Brunson to move around and get open.
They could have had a two man game going, but you can't do that
because RJ. Barrett is limited in his abilities to play the game of basketball.
It doesn't have to be in playoff basketball. This is what you saw
through the course of the season. And while he scored almost twenty points per
game, a lot of that is full gazing man. A lot of that
is more because of Jalen Brunson and his ability to give RJ. Barrett the
opportunities. But what we have seen time and time again is where we thought
that there was versatility that was there, having a guy like RJ. Barrett
on this roster, I think has become a liability. And now you have
to wonder, with the dynamic that Jalen Brunson does give you, and you
have Josh Hart and you've got a manual quickly, what role does RJ.
Barrett truly play for this Knicks batsketball team if they're going to take the next
step, Because I think there is opportunity there where you can either put somebody
in that can give you what clearly RJ. Barrett is lacking, or you
really have to seriously hone in on him taking this offseason to be able to
do the requisite things to make him a better basketball player that the Knicks are
gonna need if he's gonna still be on this roster. I'm just gonna parse
it out by saying, ARJ Barts twenty two years old. So yes,
I understand that there's still plenty of time for that happened, that his extension
kicks in next year. And while while he may not be the hero they
wanted and even the hero they needed, I think in this series there's still
room for him to become that guy down the line. I don't think the
Knicks are going to give up on him just yet, but You're right,
he has homework to do. And I'm not really picking on his play as
much because he gave him twenty He shot thirty seven point eight percent from the
three point line and even in the series, so I think he was fine,
but he wasn't able to elevate. And I think that's what you're looking
for, looking for that guy to be able to elevate the team. Actually,
when when Randall this question and Brunson, which is getting double, did
you want to see Josh Hart to be a primary ball handler for the New
York for the New York Knicks, right, I mean we we know that,
but that leads to right exactly, you know, and so to me,
your your best ball handler was RJ. Barrett when you didn't have Jalen
Brunson, that suddenly went away. I disagree with that. I don't think
r J is as good off the bounce as you may may think he is.
I'm just saying the rest of the roster that was available to you,
right, like like Julius Randall was not one hundred percent? Okay, all
right? Who else? Who else are you gonna who else on that roster
that you're gonna say that I want I want to get the ball off nobody
else to handle, right saying so that, but that's I don't know that
because there's nobody else's handle you just now you say, okay, well Barrett,
do that. It's different from what we're saying before in terms of like
you're like you're lacking shooting, so you're bringing forty eight to do what he
does, Like he's supposed to be a shooter. RJ. Barrett is not
supposed to be a playmaker, so try to make him one in the playoff
situation, I think is tough. Now there are some out there and you
didn't go this route, so you know, maybe a little surprised, but
there are something out there. I was like, well, if you didn't
dust off every Evan Fournier, why aren't you at least dust off Derek Rose.
And Derek Rose is doing interviews with seams and saying, hey, you
still got more to give, so forth and so forth. He has a
team option next year. I can't even put Maybe he wants the dollars put
this on he come back, so then we do put this on tips,
right, Like, why could you have not been confident enough to at least
give run Derek Rose out to try? You have to you just you have
to try. And I think you know, and i'mbey were being a little
hard because they almost pulled out Game six. They really did. Brunson had
that late turnover, you know, trying to hit Julius Randall in the lane
when he had Josh Hart clearly I opened on the wings. But he didn't
trust. He didn't trust his former villanova, no teammate to make that's hard
to like to to fuss at Brunston, who played a massiful game in that
and the other one right right, But but in all fairness, he didn't
get help from from from his guys. Right, the same guys that are
camping out there did not come out leak out to give an outlet to Brunson
once he tried to, you know, just squeeze through the trap, because
he knew he was gonna have to go into that. They knew he was
gonna wind up running into that trap. He knew he was gonna wind up
in that trap. It was gonna be one of two things. Wherever it
was cutting to the basket had to get there early enough. Julius Randall obviously
wasn't right, and so if that was the case, Brunson should have had
the outlet to be able to kick back out to the opposite side, you
know, move it back over to the to to to the to the weak
side. He couldn't do that because there was nobody there. Now I'm not
I'm not, I'm not I remember not finding anyone. I'm just saying,
but the fun of that cog so he wouldn't have had a lane to kick
to the weak side. He had to keep his strong side and that's where
heart was. No, so he wouldn't need to pass backwards as opposed to
trying to pass, you know, you know where he could actually see you
face him because the lane was called there was only like three four guys.
He didn't win that lane. But again I said, we're nitpicking the one
play and Brunson was maskedful Otherwise at the end of the day, there needed
to be more options available to the Knicks to try to pull out that series.
So as we as we afoorge ahead, you know again, Top and
Emmanuel quickly, Quentin Grimes, all those guys are back, you know on
deals that you know, the Knicks I have to figure out the next year
whether they're going to next end. But this team is probably going to come
back almost in its full capacity. You could figure they're probably gonna try to
trade aermon Fournier, maybe they don't pick up the team option on Derek Rose,
but the rest of it seems pretty pretty assured like that that's going to
come back. Hartenstein, I think was a god send for them in a
lot of ways, played big, big minutes for them when he was there.
Mitch Robinson was able to be healthy most of the year for the most
part. Um, I don't know that there's a lot of wiggle room to
roster different differentiation here. You know, because I think a lot of these
guys are under contract, and you know, a lot of people are calling
for Tibbs's job, and I don't know if that's going to happen. But
there doesn't seem to be like there's gonna make any big swings here, you
know from the rolls of pass. So so two things, Um, I
don't think Tims is going anywhere. I think the fact that he was able
to get this team to the semi finals and the way that he was able
to get this team to dominate the Cleveland Cavaliers, albeit whether we think that
you know, that's more Cavaliers or that actually is you know, the Tibbs
influence on this team to step their game up and play the level that they've
played. I think that TIBs is going to still get another season. I
think the key here, Shaw is to your point what TIBs does with this
roster come next year and whether or not it leads to or equates to more
wins than what they gave us. Right Like, we're trying to see if
this team is going to be another forty forty five plus up win tim basketball
team or they should be a forty nine plus up basketball team, right,
because another of the other teams in their division are going anywhere, right,
and maybe if at best we're saying they're going to be better than the Toronto
Raptors, but we're probably not gonna say that they're going to be better than
the Boston Celtics than the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Right, they should be
better than the Brooklyn Nets, But we did give an autopsy report saying,
hey, what version of the Brooklyn Nets you know that comes out? You
could look at some of the talent on that team and they can all take
a step up, and they've got young pieces as well. So to your
point, I think the execution is going to be on what supplemental part,
what role players can allow us to give Tom Thibodeau versatility. I think Tom
Thibodeau has dictated mostly for the years that he's coaching what kind of roster he
wants, and I think Leon Rose has to actually take it upon himself to
say I need the type of roster that allows us to be versatile and to
be able to throw multiple looks against whoever we're playing against. And if it
means that TIPS can't be on board with that, then I think that question
is going to be answered by the time that we see what version of the
New York Knicks are going to be for this, for this upcoming season and
moving beyond, because you can't tell me having the level of play that you're
getting from Jalen Brunson, and obviously for what you probably get from Julius Random
if he replicates that, and whatever versions you get of RJ. Barrett,
of Obi Toppin, of Mitchell Robinson and these guys. It all has to
be elevated levels. And if TIBs can't do that, then I think you
recognize that Tibbs rank Tim's run as the head coach for the Knicks has running
his course. I'm just gonna say, Tibbs in versatility. But to do
that you have to put the requisite pieces to make it glaringly like we saw
part of that, right, Remember when they made the play to bring in
Cam Reddish and and and look, I don't know if Cam Bredish is or
isn't a bad player. I just noted if the Knicks did not look like
a successful basketball team, that wouldn't have been an indictment on Tips because everybody
kept saying that Cambreddish should have been getting run on that roster. So there
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Next up, we're bodying up defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors as remodiously got
exited by the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm sure that Lebron James is feeling mighty
happy of dispatching any of that conversation about Steph Curry possibly being greater than Lebron
James and you know, all this other type of nonsense. But I think
a bigger question really has to be had about the Golden State Warriors, and
it's not about this nonsense of you know, is the dynasty over? I
really think that a conversation has to be made about can the Golden State Warriors
thrive with the type of roster that they are continually constructing moving forward, because
as you can see, they've been able to get away with the idea of
playing with a relatively small ball type lineup. But I've also seen that the
type of ball players that they have are still, let's just say not as
quote unquote savvy and intuitive on playing up to the level that's required when the
situation typically calls for it. Now, they've been able to get away with
it with some of the teams that they've played against. But I think in
this instance, when you have to play against a team that's gonna be more
physical than you, that's gonna be longer than you, probably maybe even more
athletic than you, we've not seen certain players be able to step up.
Don't know if that's age, don't know if that's attrition, don't know what
that is shaw but it does something. It does say something about the Golden
State Warriors and the makeup of the rosters. If we're talking about to what
Steve Kerr said, you know, given everything that's happened and what took place,
this just wasn't a championship team. Those comments throw me so like they
just do because it's I don't know, I mean, I know you can't
come out and say that as you're going into the playoff series against the Lakers,
just say well, we're not a championship team. We're gonna lose.
But if that's like what you like, I guess I don't know, man,
It's just it's just a weird thing to hear them say kind of after
the fact that I don't really know how it sits with me. But to
your earlier point, I think even saying he's like the dynasty is over,
Um, listen, Clay and Dre. Technically, I think everyone's trying to
get Dre out of here already. They all have one more year. Bob
Myers is the one who's who's up in the front office, and obviously he's
key to what they do in terms of the roster construction. But as you
were talking about the youth on this team, UM, don't really get the
chance to develop because the veterans are Hall of Fame veterans trying to win NBA
championship and it's hard to operate in both timelines when you're really trying to run
a franchise. Let me inject this to your point so you can continue further
show Ramona Shelburne brought up that point guards to you had to look back to
the incident that occurred between Jordan Pool and Draymond Green, and if you'd be
foolhardy not to think that that didn't become a tone setter on the perception about
where where the loyalty and the makeup of this team truly lies. You see
the differences and what she says, the core championship group and the younger guys,
and I think it rared its ugly head in what we saw on how
this team performed against the Los Angeles Lakers, who looked more cohesive than this
version of the Golden State Warriors. I'm gonna do a cheesy thing, you
know, you know, forgive me a walk with me for a little bit.
But I don't know if you remember the movie Stomped the Yard, and
you know they kind of had like the young hot guys coming in there.
Columbus Short was the hot shot freshman coming in and trying to teach the old
school guys. Hey, you got to institute this or whatever. I don't
know that they have a Columbus Short on their author roster, so to speak,
but they are Jordan Pools, the short okay, pool think he got
swagged though, Okay, shorts one copsion in the compression tights, okay,
But to me that it's it's a hard it's a hard narrative to kind of
to run and said, it's the timelines when you're trying to do two things
at once, and you have to pay homage and respect to what are Hall
of Fame players who who've got to four NBA championships versus some of the young
talent. But that that young talent I don't think is generational in any capacity.
So that's why they're reluctant to even try to develop them. But you
need them to at least be contributing role players. Um, I think the
Warriors are. What we'll see with the Warriors is really depending on what happens
with Bob Myers and and if he goes and leaves, and uh, that
might really shake the shape the organization in a way that some people may not
truly be cognizant of. Wiggins is I think, fine, he signed for
another you know, three four years, so he's good there. Obviously he's
found his role. Steph is thirty five. He'll be making fifty one million
dollars next year. But he's Steph Curry, so you paid and you don't
give almost thirty points per game. I think I would think, I think
I think the question they're want to be, yeah, well it's Clay and
um, you know, I know he worked himself back. You know,
everybody loves him. He's a little bit goofy and you know, cheesy and
corny himself at times or whatever, but he's when he's right, he's a
sniper. He's one of the best to ever do it from the outside.
But he did not look right in this playoff series against the Lakers. And
it's tough. It's tough to I'm not I'm trying not to just talk about
the money, but it's tough to pay somebody forty three million dollars who is
not contributing at a high level. It can't just be like, all right,
well, thank you for your service money, especially if you're still trying
to win NBA championships, and clearly that's what the Warriors think they should still
be in that win. This is the reason why we were having this conversation
off, you know, off the air show about I think a lot.
I think I think a lot of this, maybe, to your point,
is going to be about Bob Myers. I think a lot of this is
going to come down to Steve Kerr and the coaching staff and them taking this
off season and really focusing and honing in on how do we maximize the offensive
effectiveness that the Golden State Warriors should exhibit on a night and night out basis,
Should the primary focal point be Steph and Clay the splash brothers, or
should we start talking about Clay taking maybe a step back maybe him not?
Hold on, are you bringing Clay up the bench? No? I'm not
bringing Clay up. No. Why do you always have me saying that I'm
saying these guys got to come off the bench. When I'm saying then,
I thought that's where you're going on. Don't don't put me in a grave.
Damn it. You know I'm saying, still got out of the bodies
to talk about. Um No, But I do think that you have to
look at the way that the ball moves and the execution of the offense and
who should wind up with the basketball on certain looks and certain opportunities in certain
times, and oftentimes the Warriors make it a priority to try to you know,
to bring in Clay, to get Clay his opportunities, to get him
early. I think that could be at the detriment of the Golden State Warriors.
At times when you have matchups that really are in favor of the Warriors.
At times you'll see Wiggins has a favorable matchup, he yields and gives
the ball up because they're looking for that extra pass, for that extra shot
to quote unquote the core guys, you know what I'm saying. And I
think that that's at the detriment of the Golden State Warriors. If there's an
opportunity, there should be a level of a great It's so ironic. We
sit here and we talk about this all the time with some of these teams.
They'll get up in these interviews and they'll be like, yeah, man,
you know, Stephan, the guys they told me, you know,
they need me. They told me I needed to be aggressive. So that's
what I was. And you know, he winds up with twenty five points
and seven you know rebounds and you know, six assists. You really break
those numbers down. He was mad aggressive in like the first quarter, right
because he was the best matchup and nobody could stop him, and Steve Carr
actually had an epiphany and said, give him the damn basketball every damn time.
You know what I'm saying. But then when you see him the rest
of the series, he's freaking obsolete. He's non existent because the ball never
got to him. The ball never landed in his hands at the times where
he had that matchup. So that's what I'm saying. I think it is
tad amount that the Warriors start revisiting this narrative about how they want to execute,
how they want to start and finish games, who should wind up with
the basketball And I think if you really want Klay Thompson to be the best
version of Klay Thompson, it shouldn't be at the expense of him doing what
he's been doing at the two guard position. I really think that maybe sliding
him to that three and maybe moving Wiggins to more of a two. And
I know when we talk about this is positionless basketball, but if we're talking
about the Splash Brothers, we always talk about it in that narrative of Curry
and Thompson as the one and two on a basketball team. And I think
part of that is in the way that they prioritize Clay Thompson and his ability
to get touches and get the opportunity to shoot the ball. Well, I
don't think it's a matter of positions, and I think it's a matter of
optionality on the offense. And you know, Clay is more of a pressure
release as opposed to maybe somewhat of a focal point that you run your offense
through. We had this even at the height of his powers, where we're
like, all right, well, if you move them off the boards,
could Clay Thompson go be your number one guys somewhere? Does he have enough
versatility in his offensive game where he can just be that because he needs to
be more or less set up, you know, he can't really dribble and
do much off the bounce, but he's made a Hall of Fame career doing
being just that on a team that was perfect for the way his style and
play. So I think it's more about the options offensively as opposed to the
actual positions specifically. And there were times Wiggins took some shots. I was
like, Yo, that's you know, that's Minnesota Wiggins there. You know,
like he was maybe trying to inject themselves. But You're right, I
didn't last consistently, and that's what they probably need from him, and not
necessarily from the three point line, but just being you know, as a
guy who can get to the rim. He can boom on people all the
time as well. He's got super great athleticism and I'm finishing capability. But
then there's still the conversation of Jordan Poole and then obviously the other younger guys
as well too. Then let me ask you, let me ask this quick
question Shaw, because I'm trying to pull this up real quick as we're having
this conversation and we're talking about Wiggins that we're talking about Clay, right,
So Clay average twenty one point one and Wiggins average seventeen. Do you think
Wiggins is a twenty twenty one points you know score for this basketball team.
Do you think that he's capable of being a twenty twenty one point score?
I think he Yeah, I think he can be that, you know.
But I'll say this with this caveat. Part of the issues that we saw
play throughout the course of the year was Draymond's actual aversion to even looking at
the basket. So I think if Ram if Draymond ultimately becomes and again we're
not talking about giving him twenty shots a game here, I think I just
we want to be clear about that. But Draymond needs to be more aggressive
and and and and taking some shots himselves too. So I don't know if
that allows Wiggins to continue to be a twenty point per game guy, or
if that comes from Clay. If Draymond stays and ultimately is like, all
right, well let me try to give you fourteen fifteen a game instead of
seven eight or whatever it is that he's averaging. So so like there's numances
there. But to your point, Wiggins is still younger, obviously, more
athletic, and more you know, just and and and capable of scoring in
different ways than Clay can. So sure he could be a twenty point per
game, but I think right at twenty maybe not twenty two, twenty four
or anything like that. Interesting, all right, So what do we talk
about with you know, the I don't use the word role players? Where
where do we Where do we put Jordan Pool? Now, Sha, we
have this conversation, where does Jordan Pool fit in to this conversation? They've
given him his bag obviously in this offseason, right, and he I'll just
be honest with you, he hasn't impressed me at all of last two seasons
in the playoffs. He's a dynamic score, no doubt, he has some
magic plays. I think he's a quality player. I'm still struggling to figure
out where the Warriors are gonna be able to like really utilize him. That
he is as as big as an asset as what the money warrants sort of
speak. Getting twenty points per game is great, But we're talking about the
Warriors, and we're talking about one of the most offensively effective, efficient basketball
teams in the NBA. I almost feel like you could have gotten that from
freaking you know, Damien Lee last year. You could have gotten that from
any a number of guys that were part of this last year's team that won
this championship. So what are we talking about here with Jordan Pool? If
you okay? But I think he's gonna get a twenty four million dollar raise
starting next year. UM. So he goes from three point nine to twenty
eight seven um next year alone. That's that's that's steep. And I think
for a guy who was almost unplayable in the final stretches here of their season.
You just kind of have to reevaluabate. They'll give him every opportunity to
to recalibrate. Part of it is, yeah, does he feel some type
of way? Did he feel some type of way all season long as a
result of the Draymond incident? You know, he had flashes where he was
he was more than fine when when Curry was out, he and Clay were
able to carry the team. And so I think it's just a matter of
him regaining his confidence, you know, offensively. But he's not my personal
appetite, you know, for for for player. Oh, I'm not really
excited by his whatever he does out there, But I think they've kind of
made their bed here now and they've got to figure out a way to make
it happen because the draft, I mean, his capital right now is probably
on out that great. And he's still young too. We were talking about
RJ. Barret a little whigo to Jo Pools, only twenty three years old.
But I think you can't move him now with this, with this inflation
in his salary after the playoffs he just had, Like I think that's going
to be a very very difficult situation. So to me, Golden State is
probably coming back almost in this exact same form, assuming Bob Myers is like,
all right, well let's let's try it again, and then they'll after
next year, I think you'll really figure out the words are done, because
again Clay and Clay and Draymond Green Dwell technically will be off the books.
Right, Okay. I want to ask this question again differently than Shaw,
what version of Jordan Pool do you want to see for this Golden State Warriors
team. Do you want to see him as a primary ball handler guy that
handles the second unit, or do you want to see him as being a
score meaning the ball should eventually wind up in his hands. He's gonna get
multiple opportunities to put the ball in the basket the second one, right,
So okay, because it's amazing to me that most of the time when you
see him him, he's acting as like he's a primary ball handler, which
I don't think he's clearly as effective as someone who is being looked upon to
go and score the basketball. The Warriors are different though, so I mean,
Curry is not a traditional point guard. He can obviously this shit when
he needs to, and is getting double and triple team. We saw him,
you know, drop fourteen fifteen assist, you know, one of the
games versus the Lakers. But that's not Curry's preference, if you will.
A lot of his assists come off comes off of the actual offense that the
that the Warriors run. I think with Pool, he probably needs to be
set up more as opposed to trying to take guys off the dribble. And
then that's where maybe Draymond Green comes in as a as a facilitator as well.
They're trying to help some of that going. Again, if some of
these guys are not here, it changes the dynamic of what Pool can ultimately
do offensively. Specifically, we know he's not going to do a whole lot
defensively, but I think the best role for him is, hey, sixth
man off the bench, be your best score off the bench can be in
some finishing and clothing lineups. Here probably always be a perennial sixth Man of
the Year candidate as opposed to somebody who's a primary guy and definitely not a
playmaker on your team. All right, seaw So, in other words,
we're saying that this Warrior seem gonna be right next year. This is I
think they can be if they didn't, if they made no changes, they
can very much be back in the middle of the pack and scary against whoever
they play and whatever round. But if they if they themselves are saying,
as their current iteration is, as not championship level, then I can't imagine
that they'd bring it back because that's what they're that's what they're looking to do.
So how they make changes, I have no idea. We talk about
money a lot to eleven. That's what they owe next year to eleven,
and I think it's like four hundred and something when you count the luxury tax
aspect that it was well too, So it's pretty astronomical. And I don't
know what changes they're gonna make. But Bob Myers is at the head of
that snake when it comes to being in the front office, and we'll see
if you can conjious some magic. Well, he's gonna have to conscious some
magic. Whatever that magic is, it's got to be something a little bit
better than the home cooking, you know what I'm saying. They gotta have
some some of that on the road. You know what I'm saying. Flavor,
you know it's to to before he's finally hanging it up, so that
they wish they had him on that basketball court against the Lakers. But I'm
sure Lebron, I'm sure Lebron was happy he didn't have to deal with that.
Relive those sweet memories your Tude to the Baseline Calie Warrenshaw discussing the hot
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gotta be talking in Philadelphia, seventy six ers and this might be it,
this might be post mortem, this is uh more, what what do you
call him? More more more morbious? Not morpheus, morbious morbious? Yeah,
let's what's that? It's that that villain that always battles against Spider Power.
Yeah, yeah, that dude. Oh obviously he mustn't have been much
of a damn villain. And if my man Sean, I don't know who
that is? All right, man, we'll be talking sixers here on the
Baseline. We are back Callie Warrenshaw Baseline NBA Podcast, Last on the Slab
for our autopsy report. We'll be talking about the Philadelphia seventy six or shaw
heartbreaking seven game series. Um, you can get announced by the by the
by the Boston Celtics. I'm sure a lot of people are gonna probably look
at this game specifically and say to themselves, damn, you know, um
this. If we're going to continue to run this back, it probably won't
be with Doc Rivers. He's obviously a black cat. It's allergic to prosperity
in the seven game series, or allergic to a team's prosperity in in finals
of some sort. But you know, I've been saying this for the longest
time that the roster there there has to be another adjustment to this roster than
than what they currently have. Who knows, maybe they may prove me wrong
by what they accomplished this year that if they decided to run it back where
we would be good with it, I guess, But I'm still not completely
sold that this is a good enough roster for us to be talking about winning
in Eastern Conference Finals. At the same time, though, I have said
that the only way that this team can get to the Eastern Conference Finals is
because is by Joel Embiid being an MVP version of what he gave us up
in the regular season, just wasn't able to do it in Game seven against
the Boston Celtics. But that just has to be him, period, and
that is supposed to elevate the rest of the other guys on that basketball court.
So I don't know, it's it's it's it's kind of half and half
when I look at both of it, because it was the perfect storm for
us to question all of these things in the way that this team got knocked
out in Game seven against the Boston Celtics. Yeah, so que all your
memes, Doc rivers, James Harden can't get it done in the playoffs again,
Doc rivers six and ten in seven game series and most most losses in
Game seven's you know in NBA history, et cetera. James hard and always
shrinking in the moment. You got Ben Simmons putting out memes, you know,
I mean about the Sixers lost like it's a very he needs to chill
all the way the hell out, Like like why are you inserting yourself into
the chat? As you alluded to um. The theme I think though for
a lot of our autopsies though, is like, especially these elite level teams,
you feel like, okay, well, is one more year of the
thing or is the coaching move the potential thing? The thing here in Philadelphia
is Hardened, and not necessarily from his playoff failure aspects of obviously that's huge,
but he has a player option and he's like, hey, I took
less of money to help form this roster that lost in the Game seven and
semifinals. He has, for whatever reason, some taste and desire to return
to Houston now that the temperature is changed there. I don't know if he's
really a Yudoka guy. So I don't know if that if that happens,
or if that would change, you know, maybe his decision making. But
the Sixers are going to go as James Harden does, and because of all
the machinations that they've done with him and moving Simmons on or whatever the case
would be, it's going to be hard for them, I think, and
also to if he decides to walk to replace him, and that leaves a
team good bad, earned different I think in terms of like how you feel
about Hardened at least a team forever change, and I don't know that they'd
be able to make up for his loss if he were to walk away next
year. That to me, I think is the biggest question surrounding the Philadelphias
seventies six ers. If Doc they fired Doc, you know, we're scared
to even record right now because if you're like that could potentially come down at
any moment, you know. And you know, we both like Doc Rivers
as an individual, and obviously he's had a lot of success in this league,
but he's also had a lot of failures, and that's what he seems
to be known for right now. To me, though, it's it's it's
it really kind of starts and ends with what James Harden does. And I'll
say this one last thing. Now that Joel Embiid won the MVP, I
can't imagine that he plays anywhere close to sixty five games again. He's going
to load manage the shit out the rest of his career just in hopes of
trying to be healthy, and he continues to get hurt in the actual playoffs,
but I think they're gonna he's gonna take every precaution to try to like,
hey, let me play fifty fifty five games and try to save as
much wear and tear on my legs so I can get in in the playoffs,
and if the Lakers and Heat or any indication like, hey, it
may not really matter what seed you get in at. You can make a
run if you have the requisite um right, well, I think that that'll
that'll kind of tell you what, you know, what the priority was.
Then if that's the case, right, if suddenly now load management really becomes
the focal point for Joel Embiids, that's me saying it now, I understand
that. But then what that also means is that it's putting the pressure on
Daryl Morey now more than ever to make sure that he can construct a roster
that can afford having Joel Embiid off the court as much can I can.
I interject really quickly, and again it will be really quick. I think
more Tyrese Maxie is important, and I know it's a different dynamic and being
a Maxie Maxie not an MVP type player. I get that, But I
think MAXI can and should be doing more than he is, and I think
he has a capability. What's so, then let me ask you this question,
then, what's holding him back from doing that? Is that Doc Rivers
is Is that then the way that the offense is constructed. Is that Joel
Embiid is that James Harden, Like, what is holding him back from taking
that quote unquote next step. It's it's it's the fact that Harden is there,
and Harden plays the way that he plays. Harden is great, he's
but he's ball dominant and Maxie so he needs the ball in his hand.
Maxie is not a spot up shooter at this stage of his career, right,
Okay, so but let's let's then so then now we're really gonna put
Joel Embid on the spot, right, because what you're kind of saying,
Shaw is that those three can't coexist if you're talking about getting to that next
level eventually getting to an NBA finals, right, Like, That's what that
is gonna come down to, um and money may dictate part of that,
but I think style may dictate part of that. And I've seen where Joel
Embiid has at times thrown Hardened under the bus, justifiably. So I've also
seen where Hardness thrown Embiid under the bus, right, and I've seen Maxie
try to basically favor to both guys. So ultimately, what it comes down
to me is who does Joel embiid ride or die with right the young upstart
who's been trying to crack through and give people a reason for him to be
injected as a key piece to this puzzle. Or do you ride with one
of the more known offensively gifted players of our generation who at times can be
a liability defensively but in most times doesn't seem to bring that tenacity of offense
consistently in critical playoff series. Well, it's hard to not go with the
surefire Hall of Famer. But again, the answer might be figured out for
them if James designed he ultimately wants to leave anyway. You know, I
think More is going to do everything he possibly can to at least to try
to give it one more year. And if they feel like doc has a
problem, and then they'll get a rid of doc Um one way another.
It's if it's a matter of staggering the minutes and figuring out ways from MAXI
then to you know, become more offensive, offensively dominant Um. I think
that's that's something that they need to definitely look at ultimately, because he seems
like this guy with this budding potential to really help them, and now they're
gonna have to figure out a way to pay him as well too. His
next year will be out for him and they'll need to extend him as well,
because I think they know they're getting out of Tobias Harris now, like
he's not going to he's he's he is who he is. That's just what.
That's what. That's all they need to say about it. But there's
not another level for Tobias Harris to contribute. I think at the stage it's
Maxie and Harden or kind of bust right now, at least when you're talking
about the short term window for the Sixers. All right, So everything,
to your point, Shaw is being dictated by what hardens move excuse me,
move is going to be. Is there nothing on this roster that can be
approved upon if if that wasn't to be the case. If I'm not questioning
that what you're saying doesn't make sense. I'm just saying, where can there
also be that opportunity even if let's say Harden says let's run it back,
because then that still means that you're going to have to improve this roster because
it is not good enough to get past the better teams. It just isn't.
And if you're talking about potentially load managing. That means you're going to
have to have a suitable backup center who is going to be able to relieve
the stress of their ability to score the basketball when he is not on the
court, or to at least continue to maintain similar matchups that have allowed the
Sixers the opportunity to do the things that they do. Yeah, the roster
is weird, I'll give you that. You know, if e bead is
out, you know, Paul reb again, he's a rotation player at best.
He's not somebody almost almost struggle. It doesn't get too excited, you
know. And they brought on Tres and presidentally, you know, he didn't
fit the bill and he's not really going to be along with this team or
roster moving forward as well. Too. It brought Jenny McDaniels in. He's
his contractors up. I thought that was a shrewd move, but then he
didn't seem to really be able to crack the rotation within the in the playoff.
But he's a guy who I thought had a lot of upside. But
again, he's more of a four, you know, three four than more.
He is maybe even a small ball five. Um I don't know what
the names are out there in free agency that allows them to make a move.
If Harden declines this option, it significantly decreases their salary cap. So
then there's options there that potentially become available to them. Um. But again
that's why I keep coming back to that, it kind of depends what he
does for them to be able to figure out what their next move is.
But you were saying if he comes back, then there's still more cap trapped
innocence being able to try to bring in guy and nobody wants. I shouldn't
say nobody wants, but PJ. Tucker and and and Daniel House and Quirk
mas and Yang and guys like that are not creatable assets like there there are
players that are filled in, you know, for the bigger for the bigger
deal. And so that's why I'm saying they don't have a lot of moves
that they can make. If Harden does this hard to opt in to balance
out the rest of the roster and give him be probably the help he needs
at that five position as a backup. All right, So what's our outlook
with the with the Philadelphia seventies six ers. I mean a lot of it
is going to be dictated by, you know, the headlines and what potential
moves are are are are going to be made. And I'll even say this
a lot of that. It could be more on the focus of what Daryl
Moorey says or doesn't say about what needs to happen for this roster, right
um, because he's also been known to be somewhat of a controversial person,
likes to inject himself, you know what I'm saying, Likes likes to kind
of quote unquote take on the smoke, you know what I mean. So
what are we saying here with this Sixers team? How controversial can it be
for their off season? It could be as quiet as still as a river
creek, or as volto as a hurricane and tornado. It really does,
like I said, depending on what Hardning does and depending on what Doc what
they decided to do with Doc Rivers. I don't think they obviously don't want
to just run it completely back. But even Paul Reid, I we're talking
about him, He's a free agent, so they gotta figure about out shake
Milton's a free agent. So do you just pay those guys or do you
look for new parts that makes sense to compliment, and I think that's what
they'll ultimately try to do. But I just don't have a good sense of
what that is right now. So you know, again, they have some
things that they need to figure out ultimately with those two main pieces and two
moving parts. I just don't know at this stage. A lot of people
love the idea of PJ. Tucker and Jay Crowder. I just don't know
how impactful those types of guys are right now, you know. I just
I just I just don't know. But but Tucker is hardness as hard as
friend. So you know, but if Harden decides to go with him,
maybe you can send Tuck her along with them. Yeah, I don't know.
I think I think the six b J. Tucker and the Beard.
I think the sixers are in are in are in a very very interesting position
that is not as clear as I think it is for some of the teams
that we autopsy on specific show, Well said brother Well said, my god,
how do we get through bodying up four teams? Shaw I very quickly,
I'll tell you, boy, you are nipping Tuck man. I am.
I was more dexter, but you are nipping Tuck. Yeah, that's
a good show back in the day. We want to hear from you guys.
Man. Obviously a lot of these teams, Man have got a lot
of question marks and some interesting off seasons ahead of them, and we're only
gonna be able to watch and see probably get a popcorn ready on what may
take place for the long off season ahead. As always, Man Shaw,
it's been great doing this with you, and hopefully we will not be you
know, cast with the tasking hand again to do four teams in one episode.
There's only four teams left, so they can't all be gone at the
same time, so I don't think it will happen, although although like you
said, it's gonna be a war, it will be a war, so
who knows would be something it wouldn't for the baseline Callie Warrens. Shall we
appreciate you guys, thanks ropping on board with us this week and we'll catch
up with you next time.