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This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're
listening to KFI AM six forty, the

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Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app ki AM six forty Doctor

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Wendy Walsh with you. This is
the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. Oh my

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goodness, Barbie, Barbie, Barbee, Barbe, Barbee, Barbee Barbie.

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We got to talk about that.
And also you're on You're on the maroo

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roo. If you know what I
just said, you better listen up.

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So I've got a story for you. Hey, what about is it okay

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to take separate vacations? What does
the data say on that? Also,

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if you're in a relationship rutt,
I've got some advice for you. And

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if you're a father of daughters,
more daughters the better. You are one

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lucky person. And I'll explain why
there are some health benefits if you're new

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to my show. I have a
PhD in clinical psychology. I'm a psychology

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professor, not a therapist, a
professor at California State University, Channel Islands.

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I can't believe we've got like four
more weeks we're back into class,

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maybe only three and a half.
WHOA that summer has just been going by

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quickly. But I'm obsessed with the
science of love. I've written three books

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on relationships, a dissertation on attachment
theory, and I just care about you

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and you'll love life producer Kayla,
how are you? I am wonderful,

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Doctor Wendy's lovely seeing your beautiful face. Thank you. Did you see the

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Barbie movie? Yeah, my friends
wore blonde wigs at pitting dresses. I

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mean, but Barbie doesn't have to
be blonde. If you looked at the

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Barbie movie, there was every body
type. There was every hair collar,

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every skin collar, all the Barbies, Barbies, Barbies, Barbies. For

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those of you who have been living
under a rock and did not know that,

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I'm pretty sure you'll have to google
it for I'm good. I think

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it's number one this weekend, The
Barbie Movie with Margot Robbie. It is

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something. I hope the costume person
and the set designer win Academy Awards for

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this because that was astounding. The
costumes were amazing. It is If you

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are a man, I highly encourage
you to see the Barbie Movie. There

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were lots of dudes there. You're
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theater. I was happy to see
so many dads bringing their daughters. Also,

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the boys from Boystown love because you
know, there's all these innuendos that

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the kids are gay. Their job
is to beach. Oh yeah, you

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didn't get that. They're gonna have
They're gonna beach each other off. Oh

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I got that. Oh yeah,
yeah, I got that. That was

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a fight. They're gonna fight each
other, That's what I'm talking about.

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But it's a beach is what they
use. So they say, I'm gonna

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beat you off anyway. Uh.
It is such a ride, and it

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is such a treatise on a patriarchy. And you know, like you know,

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when you go to a movie and
the movie, the actors whatever,

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you kind of get into character and
you kind of get the feelings in the

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mood, and when you come out
of the movie, it feels like a

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little bit you're still in the movie. There's those few minutes while you're adjusting.

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And if you've been in a horror
movie, you're walking down the hall

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thinking, you know, which grim
reaper's going come around the corner, or

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which person is the serial killer?
Even you know, the Barbie movie an

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interesting thing happened in the hallway in
the movie theater and the ladies room and

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everywhere else. All the women caught
each other's eyes and smiled. There was

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this warm sisterhood happening. Afterwards,
stranger women stopped me in the mall going

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did you see it yet? And
I'm like, yeah, I just did.

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Oh it was amazing, like it
created this kind of sisterhood. And

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then at one point I was putting
my trash in the trash can outside theater

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and it was so overflowing that people
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and I just said to my daughter, it's okay, they'll send a

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can to clean it up. Because
there's a lot of role reversal in the

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movie, and I highly suggest everyone
see it all right. Do you know

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why I said you're una? Do
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means hello, intohitian and marrou means
thank you. I just got back from

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my very first vacation with my boyfriend. Now it's not that we haven't traveled

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together in the years we've been together, but it's to visit family or to

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visit real estate projects and work,
and so it was really nice to have

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a full on vacation and we went
to the Tahitian Islands and we went specifically

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for a wedding. It was a
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she is American from New Orleans,
and they got married on the beach

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with his eldest daughter marrying them,
and it was just beautiful, just everything

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you see. And Okay, I
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Don't just stay on the plane two
more hours and get to Tahiti. Thousand

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times better, much more cultural,
much more nature, much more friendly people,

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cheaper once you're there. I'm not
joking like now. Of course,

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if you're going to stay in a
big American hotel and one of those huts

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out over the water on Bora Bora
where they're just reeling you in to spend

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all that money, you can do
that, all right. But I found

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a lovely passion with a private cottage
brand new around a pool, run by

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a French woman who used to have
a French restaurant. So she brought us

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breakfast every morning and did her every
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The only thing is they're wild dogs. Now you should know these wild dogs

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are just the breed is pit bull, so when you see one when you're

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out hiking, you're like, I'm
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But they just look sad and lonely. They don't do anything. My

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boyfriend was like, just hold a
stone just in case, but they just

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looked at us like we saw dogs
eating coconuts. I didn't know dogs were

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vegetarian, but I guess they're that
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eat it. And lots of chickens. In fact, I am going to

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have to go and see Mowana again. Now I understand why the chicken was

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on the boat. And there're probably
lots of more Polynesian references that I'll get

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now. And the snorkeling you're never
gonna get better in the world. I

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mean, it was literally I was
in finding Nemo. I was swimming with

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sea turtles and clownfish and anemones.
It was beautiful all right, which made

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me think about vacations. So we
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my love and eye for seven day
straight and going to do something romantic,

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which is at tent a wedding.
No less, we never got on

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each other's nerves once, we in
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So it made me ask the question, can taking a vacation together be the

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good thing that's going to reboot your
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pulling up on the research on it, the research was all financed by the

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US Travel Association, and blah blah
blah. You know, they say things

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like all this alone time improves your
line of communication, that couples who travel

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together actually last longer, divorce rates
are higher for couples who do not travel

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together. But I want to pause
and say, you know what, which

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came first, the chicken or the
egg? In other words, do happy

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couples travel or are they more likely
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If you're a grumpy couple and you
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what. You become a grumpy couple
on the beach. That's what you become.

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So I don't think it's the vacation
necessarily, although it really is great

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to get rid of. I loved
not having Wi Fi. There were many

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days where there was no internet connection. We didn't have to answer emails.

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I loved listening to nature, listening
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all kinds of stuff. Now this
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life of people who say that separate
vacations can sometimes be helpful. One person

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I know was divorcing and they decided
to send to take separate vacations as a

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trial to see how it felt.
Well, guess what. It did not

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feel good to them, and they
got back together. Right. So,

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in their case, taking a separate
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like to be a single person out
there, it backfired. They weren't just

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testing the waters for being single.
They actually missed each other so much they

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got back together. Then, when
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and I thought she was single,
and she said she decided to give herself

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this trip for her fiftieth birthday.
I was like, oh, it's so

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wonderful. And she was from France. Everyone was from France there. I

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only saw two other Americans the whole
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asked her does she have children and
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old. I know, Kayla,
I saw your face. Four weeks she

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gave herself a vacation away from her
four year old and she was fifty.

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Yeah, well so she had at
forty six is possible. But the point

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is, you know, children have
their young children. Their perception of time

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is very different than our perception of
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year old would feel like six months. And which her rationalization we all have

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to rationalize our decisions, was oh, well, you know, to spend

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all that money and she wouldn't really
remember it. Well, here's what small

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children remember. They might not remember
the narrative of their life. We did

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this on this date. I remember
that, but they remember the feelings,

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and the feelings get stored in the
bones for a long time. So I

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gently said, you know, your
doctor is going to be mad at you.

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Might take a little while. Of
course, k I told her she

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didn't know she was talking to doctor
Wendy. You didn't know who she was

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talking to. I just said,
oh, I teach developmental psychology. That's

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a long time for a small child. So just understand it's going to take

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a little while to rebuild that relationship, which you can all right, speaking

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of you and your relationship, if
you're listening and you've been in a relationship

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for a while, are you getting
bored. Lots of people get bored as

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relationships evolve, something called habituation sets
in. When we come back, I'm

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going to tell you how to add
excitement, novelty, interest, and just

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basically get out of your relationship rut, because there are all kinds of things

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you can do besides taking a vacation
to Tihiti, which obviously not everyone can

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do that. Let me explain that
when we come back, you are listening

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I AM six forty. We can
Learn to Love Again k I AM six

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forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh
with you. Look, relationships are tough,

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and I can sit here and explain
to you what happens biologically with the

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neurochemistry in your brain. You'll be
bored, but I'll do it anyway.

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So here's what happens when you first
meet somebody. Mother nature is perfect.

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She's designed a neuro cocktail of delicious
hormones for you to feel the feelings of

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attraction and lust and love. Dopamine, serotonin Europe, and nephron oxytocin.

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Yummy, yummy, yummy. And
after a while, like any other drug

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you take, whether it's nicotine or
alcohol or caffeine, you know, you

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kind of get used to it and
you need more and more for it to

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feel better. And then the problem
is, at the beginning, it's great.

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You just see that person you're in
love with more and more and more,

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you can't get enough of them.
And then after a while, your

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brain gets totally used to seeing them. Also, you are seeing them all

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the time, and if you're living
together and you're married, you're seeing them

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without their clothes, You're seeing them
in their worst clothes. You're seeing them

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in the bathroom and the shower,
and you're seeing them dirty and you're seeing

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them clean, and you're just seeing
them all the time. Right, So

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your brain starts to not have the
excitement and the novelty that happens at the

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beginning. And when we talk about
the work of a relationship, hopefully the

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work shouldn't be I'm gonna have to
endure this monogamy. I'm gonna have to

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endure this bondom, this boredom.
That is not the work. The work

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is saying to yourself, what can
I do to make this relationship hot again?

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What can I do feel good in
this relationship? Well, let's talk

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about the science. There have been
a number of studies. A group that

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I read about today is published in
the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology that

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talks about how if couples can remember
you have to work your brain remember to

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appreciate each other. So literally,
it's you see, life is a self

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fulfilling prophecy. Your relationship is whatever
you believe it is. And trust me,

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I've looked at some other people's relationships
from the outside. I'm like,

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currently, they're not that great.
Why are they so in love with that

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person? But you know what,
to them, it's perfect because they're in

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that wonderful luster because their brain has
mustered it. So here's what we find

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is that if somebody offers appreciation and
gratitude to a partner, it becomes reciprocal.

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Then the other person automatically starts to
appreciate you. So when you've been

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together long time, the reflex often
is to think, well, they know

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I love them. I told them
the day we got married. They see

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I'm here or I'm paying the bills, or I'm cleaning the house or I'm

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doing whatever. They can see like, why do I have to tell them?

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Why do I have to write?
And so? Instead, when your

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partner does get your attention, it's
when you notice them doing something you don't

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like, and then you start to
criticize a little bit. Right, So,

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research has also shown that people who
are more appreciative of their partners show

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higher levels of resp responsiveness to their
partner's needs. So, believe it or

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not, if you can just catch
your partner being good, If you can

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catch your partner every single day doing
something small doesn't have to be huge,

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and thank them for it and tell
them why, they're going to reciprocate.

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They're going to be more responsive to
you, because we all want to give

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attention to somebody who gives us good
attention. There's also research to show that

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couples who show appreciation for each other
have greater levels of commitment. Now,

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gratitude is important, but not just
saying thank you, tell them why,

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and so saying hey, dude,
thanks for doing the dishes tonight. Appreciate

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it. How about something like,
hey, I really appreciate it that you

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did the dishes because it gave me
that extra time so I could really focus

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on my work without distractions. And
that really means the world to me that

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you were so thoughtful. Whole different
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novelty by doing something unexpected in your
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huge, major thing. It can
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Do it for your partner. And
you know, I mentioned in the

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last segment that you know, we
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relationship because we took a little vacation
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because of financial reasons, or childcare, or working reasons, or all kinds

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of reasons. I want to give
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schedule novelty in your relationship. In
this town, I do it all the

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time. Travel all the way to
Korea Town. Get some authentic barbecue.

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My favorite Korean barbecue restaurant in Koreatown
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you should check it out. Or
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get a taste of London. Head
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tea at the Queen Mary. Hey, that's not just for tourists, you

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should do it too. You know, you can experience the Old West.

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You know, the oldest town around
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buildings still exist. One of the
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is called the Old Place, and
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there. That's in Agora Hills.
Get out on the Pacific one of my

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favorite things to do when guests come
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do it just because you need the
novelty is ran some jet skis in Marina

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del Rey and see our whole coast. It's a whole different perspective from out

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there. Hey, go to Mexico. No, you don't have to go

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actually down to Mexico. Just go
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It's a small pedestrian street that's the
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it's lined with eateries and shops and
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And I know it's expensive to go
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it was expensive for us and then
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we already bought ours. Hate that
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Anyway, you can experience the taste
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polmar Winery in Temecula. They're doing
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dance, music, arts, and
crass. It's free, free, free,

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free, free food, games,
silent auction, and you can win

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a trip to Tahiti. So there
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All right. I mentioned that gratitude
is very important in your relationship to

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keep it healthy. But according to
two psychologists, there's one simple little trick.

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Okay, it's not so simple.
I'm gonna tell you all the steps

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of how to do. It can
literally save any relationship, whether it's a

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workplace relationship, apparent child relationship,
a love relationship. But once you learn

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the technique, it can save it. And I'll explain when we come back.

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You are listening to the Doctor Wendy
Walsh Show and kf I Am six

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forty. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy

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Walsh on demand from KF. I
am sixty six forty. You have doctor

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Wendy Walsh with you. I have
said this over and over and over,

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and I'm going to say it again
because it might be a new sentence for

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you to hear. Relationships are far
more about skill than luck. There is

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this myth circling around our culture that
if we could just meet the right person.

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Well, let me tell you this
that once you figure out how to

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have a healthy relationship, there will
be many, many right people for you

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because you'll be able to engage with
them in a healthy way. I can

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honestly say, Okay, I hope
my boyfriend Julie is not listening right now,

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but okay, he is perfect and
he's special on all that. But

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I met him at a time in
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because here's the story, at the
very beginning of the pandemic, when my

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kids came home and then we were
all quarantined, and basically they would after

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dinner just go watch movies that I
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alone in my room pouring myself a
glass of wine going. You know,

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I'll just swipe through these apps and
see what's going on. Well, here's

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what I didn't know. So the
way the app Bumble works, for instance,

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is that it keeps a match alive
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the woman doesn't talk to the dude, I always thought it disappeared. But

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one time I opened the app and
I saw these kind of great out guy's

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faces at the top, and I
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guess if I liked him once,
i'll like him again. Let me click

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on that first one there. To
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random. I wasn't special at all. You just clicked on a gray face

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to see what does that mean?
Right? I sitting at the apps are

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just a little first step billboard advertising. It's a pamphlet, that's all.

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It is, your basic first pamphlet
anyway. But what was different is that

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I had the relationship skills. I
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and not to sit there in long
time texting. I knew that when we

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met in the real world, because
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to wear masks, we had to
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I was very very protective and very
careful, and any guy who wouldn't

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cooperate with that, well, that
was a boundary for me. I was

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like, Okay, there's a red
flag not going there. So I had

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done the work and thank goodness,
a perfect person fell into my lap.

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But and he's not listening. I'm
sure he's not listening. There could have

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been many perfect people. Yes,
it was a random thing. So I

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was reading this article today written by
two of my favorite people, doctor Pepper

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Schwartz, who's a psychologist. I've
actually been on a couple of TV shows

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with her in the past. She's
great, and sexologist doctor Jessica Griffin.

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Combined. These two professional also spent
fifty years doing research and studying successful relationships,

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and so they wrote an article saying
that there's only one thing you need

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to learn, and if you can
learn how to do it, it can

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save any relationship, whether it's a
colleague that you're having problems with, whether

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it's a kid and you're a parent, or you're a kid with a parent,

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whatever, and you want to want
to raise your parent better, if

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you're in a love relationship, And
here's what the strategy is. It's simply

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called reflective listening. Producer Kay Lutina. What reflective listening is listening to understand

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as opposed to listening to respond.
That's a very good way to say,

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yeah, listening to understand. So
are there. I've come up with a

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little list of best practices with the
work of doctor Pepper Schwartz and doctor Jessica

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Griffin. So if you're going to
learn, and everything's a skill, you

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got to practice it over and over. You won't get it right right away.

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The first step is eye contact.
If you're trying to have a conversation

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about anything tender with somebody, you
can't be distracted looking at your phone,

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the computer, the TV, the
road, whatever. You need to sit

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down at a quiet place and actually
look someone in the eye. Now,

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one technique is to have a talking
stick. I remember one time years ago,

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just as a friend I did this
with a friend was having trouble with

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her daughter. Her daughter was in
her early twenties. And you know,

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mom, hating is a stage,
ladies, Okay, so if your daughters

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hate you, it's a sort of
a weird thing that goes for a bit

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and then they come back around.
But anyway, I said, well,

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why don't we do the talking stick
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And so we literally use a hairbrush
because we're barbies, and she,

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the daughter, would hold the hairbrush, and whenever she was holding the hairbrush

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only she was allowed to talk.
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as long as the person was holding
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don't interrupt. Also, it's really
important to simply say words like help me

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understand, help me understand. You
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it helps the other person feel seen, heard and understood. And often

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that's enough, Like people don't even
need to have the problem solved if they

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know that their grievance is being respected
and that they they're being heard. But

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what happens more often is that when
someone brings up something tender, the other

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person gets defensive and they start to
rationalize and get defensive and talk about why

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a, well you made me do
that? Well yeah, and then you

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get into this war or the words
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That's it, right, no blaming
now here. The other thing,

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when the person has a talking stick
or it's their turn to talk, you

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have to focus when they're talking,
really focus, try hard not to distract

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yourself. And then the things that
the call centers do so darn well these

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days. You pair a phrase what
you think you heard, and you say

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it back to them, and it
sounds something on glyphs. So it sounds

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like when I did blah blah blah, you felt blah blah blah, and

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then in fact check, did I
get that right? That's what they do

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on the call center. You call
and you say, hey, I paid

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for that plane ticket and now the
plane's delayed and there's a cheaper flight and

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I want to cash this in.
And then they go, so what I'm

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hearing is that you purchase a ticket
from US last week and now the price

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has gone down and you'd like a
refund. Is that correct? Right?

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I love it how they do that
reflect They must teach them at all the

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call centers. If only we could
do this in our personal relationships. And

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also here's a big one. Try
to guess what they're thinking. Be a

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feeling detective. Scribe what you think
they're feeling it sounds like you felt,

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and say a word for a feeling
scared, embarrassed, angry, sad,

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whatever come up with a word,
and then they get to say yes or

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no, that's what I felt.
And then here's the big one apologize.

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You know, I'm sorry are some
of the most important words you can ever

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say in a relationship, and how
you say them is very important. Not

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like, well, i'm sorry,
Okay, it doesn't sound like somebody's very

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sorry when they say that. Well, when they say, oh, I

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didn't know you felt that way,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that happened to

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you, That is so powerful.
Also, thank them for sharing. Yes,

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thanks for bringing this up, Thanks
for telling me about this. It's

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very helpful to me. Then the
two of you can find a solution together,

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okay, instead of you just in
there saying, well, you should

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do this and you should do that, which I should tell you. Some

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of the biggest no nos in reflective
listening are well, obviously interrupting, let

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the person get their spiel out,
no matter how long it takes. Also

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giving advice. Well, here's the
thing I think you should do, because

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this is not a strategy session.
Okay, this is somebody telling you what

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they're feeling and experiencing. So don't
go in there giving advice and trying to

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solve the problem for them. And
also, please watch your body language.

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You're sitting there listening intently, are
your eyes rolling, are you arms crossed

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across your chest in a very defensive
position? Be calm, be open,

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try as hard as you can not
to put your brain in defense mode.

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I know, with my boyfriend,
I find myself saying things like he gets

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on rants sometimes, and people do. They're just their way, everyone's got

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their style. And I'll just say, I'm finding that when you're repeating yourself

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over and over that I'm feeling criticized. That's all I say. I'm feeling

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not you know, stop ranting.
Are you doing this? I say,

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I find that when I hear you
saying the same things over and over,

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you know, feel like I'm being
criticized here. And then he'll be like,

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no, no, I didn't mean
it that way. Whatever. Okay,

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here's one of the things I've learned
from my online life and all of

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you wonderful people who write to me, and from what I saw today in

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the Barbie movie. Way too many
women feel insecure. They feel insecure in

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their relationships, not their fault.
Okay, patriarchy has done that to us.

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We're supposed to be thin. We're
supposed to be successful, but not

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too successful. We don't want other
people to feel bad, etc. There's

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a wonderful what's her name America for
Era, that actress. I love her.

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She gives that long soliloquy in the
Barbie movie about this impossible position that

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we put women in. However,
I want you to know that there are

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certain things that secure women do,
so we need a model, right,

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what's a model or a relationship.
There are certain things that secure women never

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ever do in relationships, and I'll
explain what they are when we come back.

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You are listening to the Doctor Wendy
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We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh

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on demand from KFI AM six forty
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Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This
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going to be taking your calls,
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Producer Kayla is going to open the
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The numbers one eight hundred five two
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hundred five two zero one five three
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about things that secure women do in
relationships. Earlier, I mentioned that I'd

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seen the Barbie movie today and when
the patriarchy took over, when Ken figured

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out that patriarchy could be a cool
thing for Barbie Land. We watched as

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an audience all the Barbies in Barbie
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And the boyfriends were bro culture and
they what was that funny line that

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they called it? Like long term, low commitment, part time relationship or

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whatever. So the girls were having
a hard time getting a commitment. They

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the guys made them feel very insecure
about themselves. Half of them were in

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French maids costumes. All of a
sudden, they had been presidents and Supreme

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Court justices and the old Barbie Land
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etc. So you know, I
think that partly because we are right now

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experiencing an oversupply of successful women in
our mating marketplaces, and women don't like

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to date down. What ends up
happening is a whole bunch of women are

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competing for a small group of men
who they feel are high status, high

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value whatever, And so they're feeling
that competition and that's making them insecure.

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Other women are insecure just because of
their early childhood trauma and the critical parenting

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and the critical coaches, and the
rest of us are just insecure because patriarchy

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made us feel bad about ourselves,
whatever it may be. So I want

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to talk about if we were to
all be secure women in relationships, here

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are a few things we would never
do. Okay, Number one, Secure

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women do not play mind games.
They don't expect their male partners to be

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mind readers and then punish them when
they are not good mind readers. Right,

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people of any gender should not expect
your partner to know I have seen

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people and heard people say these words. He should just know, Well,

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you should just know. No,
nobody's expected to just know. You need

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to tell them what you need now, I will tell you I wasn't always

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the secure woman that I am now. It is the gift of age and

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wisdom that has made me like myself
so much. Did you love that scene

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in Barbie when Barbie sits down and
she's in the real world now, and

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she sits at a bus stop and
there's a really old lady. She's never

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seen an old old lady before,
and she says, you're beautiful, and

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the old lady goes. I know
it. So I was also insecure,

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especially when I was young, and
I did this bad thing because I was

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insecure. And this is a thing
that secure women do not do, which

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is deliberately make men feel jealous.
Right. I used to leave, like

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you know, back in the day
when guys would write their phone numbers on

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napkins and stuff, and I'd leave
them like strategically in my car so the

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player that I was dating would see
that it hires down his man I left

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his number or whatever. No,
you don't need to do that. Although

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in the Barbie movie, the Barbies
did make all the Ken's jealous so they

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would start fighting with each other.
It's just a movie, folks. Okay,

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if you're insecure about your relationship.
You don't need to affirm your value

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by having him feel jealous. Okay, in the same sense, and I've

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done this in the past too,
you do not need to fish for compliments.

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You should know how fabulous you look, no matter what your body type,

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no matter what your hair, your
skin color, anything. You should

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know that. Throughout the history of
the human species, the whole reason why

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men work and make money is so
that they can impress women. We're picking

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them, they're not picking us.
Okay, So you don't need to fish

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for compliments. You should know you're
hot. Don't depend on a man to

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affirm you. Secure women just don't
need that. They'll say, oh,

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I look at in this. What
do you think do I look at in

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that? No, Secure women just
put on the clothes they like and they

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walk out and they know they look
just great. Also, secure women are

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never a doormat when a man tries
to just what they should wear. Right

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member. Last week, we were
talking about actress Kiki Palmer and her partner

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saying that she should wear certain things
because she's a mother, you know what,

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she can wear whatever she wants.
Because what if we wear something and

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he's worried that we go out in
public. That he's being judged. That's

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his insecurity. He's being judged by
what we're wearing. You know what,

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you can wear whatever you want.
Secure women never ever do this, drop

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everything in their life for a man. Oh, come on, we know

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them. We know those women.
They get a boyfriend and they just disappear

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from the girls club, but they're
barely making it to their job half the

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time. They just lose everything in
their life and their identity and they wrap

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themselves around a man as their identity. Secure women don't do that. They

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know that relationships are a bridge between
tribes. They introduce their friends, they

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get their friends to check out the
new guy. To remember the ven diagram.

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You're an individual, he's an individual. There's some overlap that's called the

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relationship, but you're still an individual
on each side. Oh here's a big

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one. You know. Secure women
never feel insecure about their sexual experience,

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never ever, ever. If he
tries to make you feel bad about your

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body count or what your number is, your answer should be there's none of

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your business, because it's not.
I mean, are you asking him how

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many partners? Everybody has the right
to their own autonomous body and their own

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pleasure and they can do whatever they
want. And so if you're a secure

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woman, you don't care about your
body count. And if he asks,

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I mean I usually say when a
guy asked me one hundred and fifty.

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Problem with that, who knows what
the truth is? I don't count.

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Also, secure women don't choose men
who they perceived to be high value in

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the eyes of their friends, in
other words, social climbing status, instead

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of looking at a man as his
own humanity and who he is. Also,

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secure women do not snoop or invade
a man's privacy. Don't go into

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his phone, don't go into his
DMS. If your stomach is telling you

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that he's cheating on you, trust
your stomach. Secure women and ask him

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find out. You don't have to
look bad. Lying and snooping doesn't look

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good. Secure women also, now
it takes some skill to learn this.

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They assess red flags. Well.
The problem is when a woman is insecure,

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her fear of abandonment is greater than
her ability to go Wait, that's

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not right, that he's not treating
me normal. That is not normal right,

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And so you know, as somebody
who is secure will go nil address

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it. Hey, I noticed that
the other night you said you were going

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to call me. When you came
in, I didn't hear from you.

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You said you ended up going to
bed, and you forgot to call me

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next time. I'd like you to
follow through and call me when you say

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you're going to and then see what
happens if he does it twice goodbye because

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he's not respecting your needs. And
the biggest thing that secure women never ever

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do because they don't fear abandonment.
You know why, because they have a

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full, rich life. They have
great relationships with friends, colleagues, and

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family, and so he's one piece
of it. If he goes away,

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they still have all the social support
they need. They're not able to just

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cling to bad relationships because they feel
insecure. All right, when we come

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back, I am going to be
taking your calls. The number is one

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eight hundred five two zero one KFI. That's one eight hundred five to zero

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one five three four. If you
have a relationship question, give me a

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call. I'll be happy to answer
it. You are listening to the Doctor

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Wendy Walls Show on kf I Am
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