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I'm okay. I just smiled another
to in the face. Yeah, she

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want to stay singing to you preach
that go with don't just try to tell

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me you love me. You can't
keep it. Really, if you really

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don't trust me, you come with
a reel, you get up in the

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front so you get my meals.
I'm conning for the money, money in

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the bank, coming with a dank
scrilling that tank thrilling with the gang.

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You sitting on the side of that
trip. I go to the whole with

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a rock like, yeah, I'm
okay. What up though, Welcome to

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Young Chris Nicholas call off on the
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be a friend, tell the friends, share the stream. It's very

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very much appreciated coming off of our
Super Bowl Sunday, first and foremost real

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quick, Happy birthday, Uncle T. Fox, Happy birthday, Uncle T.

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She was showing them last day.
He said, nothing, yeah,

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none, nothing this house all night
last night. You didn't say anything but

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heavy birthday, Uncle Pete. And
we appreciate you for having the boys over.

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It was a great a lot of
good food, a lot of laughs

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being shared, a lot of magazines
being looked at. Yes, I wasn't

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touching those things. We didn't know
if the pages. I was like,

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I'm good. I can see him
from uh, from from when you're opening

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them, like I said the smash
that like, but if you see my

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guy Stick in the streets, make
sure I have some diapers, some clean

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ones. Though there's some uh size
zero. I don't know. I think

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yeah, I think it's size zero. Yeah. Uh. He had a

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dipe party over the weekend. Two. So if you guys see Stick graduated

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them as a brand new baby and
took him up some diaper's target car.

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Whatever you gotta do. But aunto
sports, what do you want to start

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this one? Spinny? I would
probably say the Super Bowl? Yeah yeah,

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superl did happen yesterday? All right? Firstly, I have the Super

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Bowl. Who do you think is
gonna win? I think's gonna win the

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Lions. No, we just take
away from Super though. It was it

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was a defensive battle. Man,
it was a defense. Everybody was saying

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I saw it on Twitter a bunch
of different people. All the Lions would

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have won this game. They would
have been up thirty five, like Antonio

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Brown, so like thirty eight ten
right now or whatever. I mean,

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they definitely would have had the best
offense on the field in that game,

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but I don't know if their defense
would have been able to go up again.

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Those those were two elite defenses.
Oh you saw last night though.

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They were both flying around, making
tackles, making hits everywhere. Obviously overtime

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nobody knew what the fuck was going
on with overtime, like did they win?

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Did they not win? Is the
clock gonna run out? Does the

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clock not stop? What happens now? But it was a good game overall.

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Usher killed the performance, and uh, it was fun. It was

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fun. It was a lot of
fun to watch. Yeah, I mean

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because we had all day talk sports, and I promise you we will the

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Usher performance with a backlash. Yeah, I didn't understand. I didn't either.

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I can see it not being your
favorite, I can see you not

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loving it. But to say it
was bad, that that blew my mind.

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Thought he had a great I thought
it was a great performance. I

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think we ended up saying this top
five. Yeah, at least looking fine.

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Oh my herding on the guitar louta
popped up little John popped up,

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dude was flying in the background.
I didn't beat that till you're driving home.

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Yeah it was. I thought it
was a great performance. I thought

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it was great too. I listen. If if you didn't enjoy that,

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do you either just aren't old enough
right to have like like live through the

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Usher era, or two you just
didn't enjoy the nineties you didn't allow yourself

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to joy the nineties into the two
thousands because like Usher was playing banger after

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banger after the banger after banger.
Then I went today like a I don't

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know, this is weird? Should
I do? I rewatched Michael Jackson's and

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then I rewatched Princess because that's Uncle
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of us combined. Yes, he
said those were his top two and everything

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else is underneath that, So I
was okay. Michael's dances ass Off performed,

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He's a great performance of all time. Prince Sanger's ass off, He's

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phenomenal, and he's playing purple Rain
and then it started raining, Yeah,

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like purple Illuminati. Yeah, you
started floating from the surface. No,

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she was a little bit combination of
that, a little bit of saying a

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little bit of performance and like,
bro, what banger after banger after bank?

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Like I forgot how many bangers she
actually had? Oh yeah, dude,

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she's got hits. Man and he
was groping Alicia Keys on stage.

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Oh man, it was, oh
my god crazy. I thought Swiss beats

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good. Come from the season.
You look at Swiss twenty two here.

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Oh yeah, Oh my god,
damn Alicia Keys is she She is gorgeous.

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She is gorgeous. She looks stunning
last night and she knew what she

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was doing walking sideways like that,
so you see all that gas. Yeah,

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Alicia Keys is one hot piece of
race. To be fair, though,

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like the same way if you're dating
like an actress and she's in movies

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like making out with dudes, it's
just like part of like the entertainment industry,

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you know what I'm saying. I
feel like we're just making more of

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it than it is because I adam
twenty two probably don't know because I mean

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they're just performing. Do Yeah,
that's what happens. Yeah, he did.

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I mean there was one part I
be like, okay, in the

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very beginning he was like running as
I was like, all right, that's

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that wasn't necessary, sir, and
like it was just the whole time.

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As soon she stepped on this sing, he was just like me, how

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could you not? Like it was
it was in red and shiny too,

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Like it was definitely definitely a cite
to behold. You're the music guy,

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Chris. You have a whole what's
your What's your? Podcast called the rap

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K Podcast, So we've been doing
that and we're definitely gonna break down the

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halftime there on that this week.
But I thought it was phenomenal. I

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just like I kind of started with
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a B, like like really good
but not the best. But as I

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thought about it, it really was. It really was well done. I

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mean, he the set list was
flowing. It was it was forty seconds

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of each song like the best snippets
of it. Almost like it was like

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a TikTok TikTok or Instagram performance that
was dope. Like you said, bringing

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out all the different people was awesome, and I just feel like it just

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it kind of ended weird though,
like it kind of just like you know,

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it was ending, but the camera
was just on him for like an

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extra second or two and then he
paused. It was like sea and so

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and that kind of like spalled it. But other than that, yeah,

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it's probably like a top five performance
for me that the hip hop person Like,

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I'm always definitely better than Rihanna being
pregnant and just standing there. Yeah,

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I'll do expect to be on but
like that's that's yeah, she a

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little bit. I watched that today
too. She's a little a little these

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you know what I'm saying, And
she got bankers, but it was I

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don't know, again, she wasn't
the before that. Usher. Like you

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said, Usher was rollerblading at times, you know what I mean, That's

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true too. He was. He
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killing it. That's why to me, like, I think my top four

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are pretty clear in the in the
Prince m J. The Kendrick Drake,

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every Kendrick dre and everybody, the
West Coast one and then this one.

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I think like, yeah, the
West Coast one was sick, especially because

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it was in l A and LA
was playing and you had you know,

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dollar fifty cent hanging from the ceiling. That inflation, Yeah, that inflation.

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That's the best joke. That ship
is so funny, Nick, What

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you make at the Super Bowl halftime
performance. I was smacking food. I

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had to pick up my uh the
wings I was telling you guys about and

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I had Thai food being delivered like, I had a lot going on at

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once. So I missed the Usher
halftime. I have not been able to

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watch it. Obviously. Usher is
a legend, but I don't go too

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crazy about these half time performances.
They're really just not for me. MPs

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talking about that. Jesus gets us
it. There was was weird religion.

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J C shalled out a lot of
money for the Super Bowl ads man,

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there was like four or five just
yeah, hey, bro, I mean

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water to win, Like I'm not. I'm sure he's got it. I'm

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sure he's got Yeah. I don't
know, but yeah, j C.

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Big year for JC and the Super
Bowls. He was coming up, he

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was coming up. Yeah, I
guess. I mean, you guys,

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I've never been like a big on
Super Bowl EDGs. I mean I watch

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it. I'm there for him,
but I'm never like whatever they are this

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year and even catch you guys eye
this year I paid the New York dude

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Christopher walking on the best part was
the first dude, Yeah, this is

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great. Really them trying to get
Arnold Schwarzenegger to drop the hard art.

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That was ship that was actual.
Yeah, okay those those my one two

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he said name Bird. Yeah,
I was like, burn this woman's labor.

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That was a good one. That
was a good one. The ben

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Affleck boy band commercial, Yeah,
that's pretty good. Do you like the

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Did you like? That? Was
like thirty second Kanye Wait? What yeah?

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Kanye was Kanye. Yeah. It
was like just him on his phone,

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like I paid all this money for
the commercial spot and I did.

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I forgot to pay for the commercial, So go to yeezy dot com.

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I got shoes and that's it.
Oh wow, yeah it was that was

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that was and it was like it
was like it was like uploaded in like

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real format, you know, like
that, but it was exported the other

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way, so it's just like an
all black screen. Yeah, and then

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him and darken his car. It
was. It was weird. It was

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the Pringles one was funny to Chris
pratz on, Yeah, that one was

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funny. Yeah, I guess that
would be the three then. I mean,

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it's not worse than this album,
though. I can't believe they're trying

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to They're trying to get out on
towards nigger like that bro tried to the

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dude was like, neighbor, maybe
they're trying to get him drop the RS

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man. It was, that's pretty
well. That was a funny commercial.

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Oh and the one the even though
I already saw it before the Super Bowl,

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the Patrick Stewart one where he throws
Hey Arnold like that was that's just

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funny as hell. Oh, throw
the boy, Creed comes, shut him

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mouth paramore the other part two that
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I first watched that one, was
like, honestly, I throw was probably

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going just as far to it through
it, but it's probably missing it as

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well. Yeah, he's probably you
know, short short army that one too.

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What about Kelsey bossing up on Andy
Reid last night? Yeah? We

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did you take it on that one? I saw A J. Brown said

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if that was me, I would
have got kicked out of the league.

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He ain't, He ain't, Like, yeah, that's I meant to send

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one video the best, the best
one is man, my bitch is here.

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Yeah, that's fun. That was
so funny, Like I remember,

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and I'll send it if I can
find it or if Chris is down because

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it'll be over by then. Actually
we still got time. I'll send it.

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But at one point during the season, I remember which game it was,

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but Kelsey threw his helmet and like
he's throwing a fit in the same

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way kind of was last night and
one of the workers when they gave it

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back to him and then he regrabed
it from his hand and was like,

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no funk, that he needs to
cal him down whatever. And then once

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he get back to him and he
was like chest bumping him. It's kindle

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their relationship and is also different when
like one guy is like sixty five years

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old plus pounds, his knees probably
like don't work as well from playing.

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Probably saved him, No, he
kept him up right, That's what I'm

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saying. Yeah, I feel like
it looked worse would because he was pretty

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bad. Yeah, he's pretty aggressive. Actually, I was worried his knee

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was gonna buckle and that was that
because he blindsided him. Yeah, I

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was actually worried me. I was
like, what if he goes down on

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these sidelines, who's coaching? You
know? What if he got pulled out

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like Travis, that would have just
horrible. And the Drake CT would say

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Drake Greenlaw and the second quarter that
changed the game. Yeah, Travis Kelcey,

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he was locking Travis Kelcey down.
Travis Kelcey one catch for one yard

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until he got taken out. I
don't know about all that. I do

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like he was playing him very very
well. I don't think that makes as

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much as a difference. I mean, Travis Kelsey. You don't think the

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starting linebacker that was guarding him for
the majority of the game when he only

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had one catch, getting injured and
leaving the field doesn't affect it, correct

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because it was the one guarding the
entire game. Maybe a certain reps.

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Yeah, he's also not known as
like a coverage linebacker. He's like he

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was doing it great, just as
a box defender laying the law down.

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He's not really like a nobody's known
for Romo. Yeah, Romo is bad

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too. You just hate Romo.
I do hate Romo. Yeah, to

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be fair, Sorry Jesus Feet,
I don't get it. I didn't see

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that commercial either. Yeah, Taranty
out directed. Yeah, Chris was saying,

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Yeah, that was that was pretty
weird. Romo sucked at the end

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to it, just like put the
nail in the coffin. Then I hate

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Tony Romo is the broadcast where he's
like, you know, if you got

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if you're trying to get three,
you gotta get two first. Oh yeah,

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no ship Tony like real, real, great deductive research there. Yeah,

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to win three in a row,
you gotta win two in a row

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first, and you know what,
you know what you got to do before

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that? You gotta win one.
It's crazy how that works, Tony.

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Yeah that last night, he didn't
know, he didn't he was singing at

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the funny his animals start kicking in
that ship was even Jim nance is like,

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all right, let's go to commercial. Yeah, it's like me and

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do on the show all the time.

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Dudes in the super Bowl, No, because he says, and he's just

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the mouth. Dude. So I'm
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No? I like that one hare
golf and yeah, Patriots is the

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worst super Bowl I've ever snooze fest. That was terrible. It was like

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thirteen six, just awful. There's
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that that was awful, and Patrick
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and share the stream. Where do
you want to go first? To goat

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talk? You want to do the
Shanahan choke talk? What's Jack Labrador for?

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It, all right, which what
do you want to represent? I'll

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do goat talk, so I do
is win, I'll do choke talk.

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That's not bad. It's totally accepting. Fun with it ready, Kelsey Jack

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laborate, door Jack Laborate, door
ham Man. All right, is Kyle

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Shanahan a choke artist? It's starting
to look like it. I mean,

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how many super Bowls you're gonna go
to and lose? Like, if three

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losses in the Super Bowl, that's
tough. I understand, like it was

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with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purty,
But come on, man, Like you

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have an all star team, you
have a team with first team All pros,

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littered throat the lineup on both sides
of the ball. You need to

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get over the hump eventually, and
I get it. Like Andy Reid didn't

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win a Super Bowl until Patrick Mahomes
got there, and Bill Belichick didn't win

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a super Bowl until Tom Brady got
there. Yes, but those guys weren't

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consistently getting the Super Bowls. Like
Andy Reid was in one super Bowl before

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he had Patrick Mahomes and he did
lose. But this guy has now had

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three opportunities at it and he's lost
all of them, So I think at

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some point you need to start having
that conversation that he's choking in the biggest

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spots. His offense choked hard against
New England, just abandoned the run.

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We know, twenty seven straight points
and New England got that chip when he

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was in Atlanta and in San Francisco. Now he's choked a couple times,

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So I do think it's time to
start having that conversation that this guy can't

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get it done in the biggest spot. I hate it, bro I think

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he's a great coach, he's a
great play caller, but some people just

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ain't cut like that. Come listen. That would hold true in any other

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circumstance or any other case, circumstances
that didn't include Patrick Mahomes and Tom fucking

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Brady, Like like, those are
the two people he's losing to. That's

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what you gotta if you want to
win the Super Bowl, you gotta beat

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the best. Patrick to be the
man and Tom Brady to be the man.

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You gotta beat the man. Eli
Manning went out there and he beat

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Tom Brady. Tom Brady beat Patrick
Mahomes. I know this fucking spider Man

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mean like, but like to be
the man, you gotta beat the man.

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And you can't have that excuse if. If you want to win the

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Super Bowl, you're gonna have to
beat the best players in the world.

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Brother, that's not that's what you
have to do, You dragged. Listen

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because the contact situation is crazy.
First and foremost, I already mentioned Tom

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Brady and Patrick freaking Mahomes. Those
are the two guys he lost to.

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Like again, any of the circumstance
validity is there. Let's add some more

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contexts and you already mentioned this too. First one, Jimmy Garoppolo certified,

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I don't want to call him bump
as respectful NFL player data, porn stars,

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forty contract, all that good stuff
like that, But at the NFL

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level compared against his peers, fucking
bumm average at best. All right,

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that's who he took the Soup Bowl
the first time around, going against Patrick

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Mahomes second time, mister irrelevant literally
the last pick and the entire fucking dress.

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Who was a v He wasn't a
real MVP candidate. He was Christian

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McCaffrey got more MVP votes than him. He doesn't. No one listened,

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anybody voted for him as an MVP
candidate, turning your credentials, that's that

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is awful. I mean, what
are we doing here? I have respect

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for him as like a game manager, but he's not MVP caliber worth.

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Like, that's not even argument I'm
gonna use here or a lot. I

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mean that suspectful. I guess to
turn that down. But I'm not looking

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at Black Pratier as an MVP candidate. But mister irrelevant, Jimmy Garoppolo going

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up against Patrick fucking Mahomes, It's
just it's him getting the Super Bowl.

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Those guys alone, you know what? You know what? Uh, Patrick

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Mahomes and Tom Brady being on the
other side doesn't have to do with it,

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huh. It doesn't have to do
with your offense completely shutting down.

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It doesn't have to do with you
giving up twenty seven straight points not scoring

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a single points against the Patriots.
It doesn't have to deal with your offense

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not being able to do anything in
the second half against the Chiefs in the

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Super Bowl. Like I understand,
Yeah, those are two of the goats.

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Those are one one one A,
one A one B when you talk

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about goat conversation. But to win
a super Bowl, you're gonna have to

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beat the best teams. You're gonna
have to beat the best players. So

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at some point it's not just Okay, yeah, he's had bad luck.

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That's what you want. That's what
you gotta do to get the girl.

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You gotta slay the dragon. To
save the princess, you gotta slay the

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dragon. And you're gonna have to
slay that Patrick Mahomes dragon. If you

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want to win the Super Bowl,
very if you are slaying those dragons,

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well, but show guards again,
Patrick Holmes, Tom, That's that's fucking

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insane me. And at top of
that too, like to get there,

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like they got the miscord their field
goal. It is what it is.

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But Patrick Mahomes, this is how
great this guy is. Let's not forget

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that game winning drive. One fourth
down conversion which he converted on his feet,

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another two more third down conversions,
what's another one of those on his

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feet as well, Like like that's
just how great Mahomes is, Like you

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just that's just that's what he does. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, they're

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in the same class too. Now
you're Matt Ryan in that situation, you

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are at control of defense over there
to your college the offensive coordinator. But

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I remember I look back the numbers
actually for that one to two. Yeah,

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m P Matt Ryan, MVP Matt
Ryan because of what though, y,

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But let's not let's not disrespect this
man for what he is. Do

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you get to go there and lose? And like, is anybody going there

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with mister irrelevant and Jimmy Garoppolo.
Well, it doesn't matter if you go

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there if you don't get it done. Nobody talks about the team that lost

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in the Super Bowl. People are
dick sucking them right now. Three super

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Bowls and he didn't doing to what
you got Patrick Mahomes exactly, but he

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wouldn't lose. People gonna get to
that many times, Like I don't understand,

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like we're knocking him down for getting
them more times than Andy. So

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did the Bills teams choke? Where
those Bills? Was that a known choking

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team? What do you mean that
Bills team that lost four Super Bowls in

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a row? I lived that era, like but that, Yeah, they're

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choked. They choked. It was
they got to the biggest age and they

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choked every single time. Getting there. Getting there is awesome, getting there,

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You know, here you go,
kid Pat on the back, Kyle

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sat game. But you gotta fucking
win it. If you want to be

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a great coach, if you want
to be recognized with the coach, you

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need to win super Bowls. And
it's gonna happen. This guy's what thirty

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eight, thirty seven years old.
We'll see he's not beating the choking allegations.

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You can't. I'm not giving me
choking allegations. I'm sorry, I

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can't do it, and they gain't
me another coach in this league that's going

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to the super Bowl, the fucking
Rock Purty and Jimmy Garoppolo. Name me

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another coach in this league who lost
three super Bowls in the past ten years.

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Name me another one is going to
three super Bowls in the past again

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with Jimmy Garoppolo and perty, Yeah, against this it's just not a choker,

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like you can't say you killed.
He literally has gone there. And

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on top of that too, you
and I ain't en get to say this

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part too. Back to the Atlanta
series that he had two of those series

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two call stars dropping them back ten
yards and then another one was a fumble

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from Matt Ryan that those are like
that ship like out of his just like

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he was the situation. And then
that was before the overtime. Only two

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overtimes in Super history Shanahan lost both. Check this out though, that's before

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the overtimes the way it was yesterday. That choke shit. That is fun.

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But if they had the rules of
like what we saw yesterday, maybe

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he would have won with the Atlanta
Falcons. I mean, he was to

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say all momnimums against him in that
one too, But Nick, Nick,

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where you at with this one?
The biggest reason to me why I feel

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like he did choke away this game. We all know that he went against

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the best and Patrick Mahomes and that's
why you have to duffer, so you

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can't have your offense out there on
those fourth downs that Casey converted was because

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they knew they had to go for
it. Yeah, that's why I just

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completely think that Shanahan did choke away
this game. A. You know you

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have to go for it on those
fourth downs. B. You'll have a

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chance to go for two and completely
win the game against say the kids of

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City scores and goes for a field
goal. You have a chance to score

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another touchdown and win the game going
for two if you would have deferred three,

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your defense gets a turnover, field
goal wins you the game. Yeah,

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those are like, it's just completely
blasted me to be that they would

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take the ball first, because if
you go for a field goal, you're

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losing that game to Mahomes. So
his reason for taking the ball first,

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I thought it was a dumb reason. He wanted to be the last one

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of the opted to score. And
I get it because well he didn't go

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for it on fourth downs o t
though Patrick Mahomes in that situation. Yeah,

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like I'd rather have the ball last
to Patrick. You see what I

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haves when Patrick Mahomes the ball last. It's not it's not pretty if you

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if you not party, I agree
he should have deferred. I thought that

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would have been the better choice.
I thought he should have deferred because then

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you know what you need after their
first possession. That's what That's where I

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was. But uh Neil made a
good point of He's with Shanahan's reasoning because

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if you both score touchdowns, then
you have the ball in a sudden death

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scenario. So if you do take
the ball in that new overtime situation,

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you have to score a touchdown or
you're gonna get Mahomes. You can get

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mahomeie an auto, Like you need
to score that touchdown there or you're gonna

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get beat. I'm saying on some
of those yeah, that was a funny

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one. Yeah almost there. I
can don't worry. But yeah, I

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just think on those fourth downs,
maybe they don't run some of those same

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places Kansas City. You just I
don't. I just hindsight shit like that

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though, Like I mean, you
have to change up your game plan when

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you're playing against the Mahomes against a
Brady, and I feel like just deferring

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was the right move there. I
just I questioned it is the moment it

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happened me too, the moment it
happened, I need it too. I

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was room he did it. I
don't. I don't. I don't see.

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I don't have any issue with it
personally. I see the lodge get

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it. I see where again you
don't want Mahomes at the ball the situation

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and then going for in that fourth
down is like okay, well, now,

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like all they need is the field
goal to win. You know what

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I'm saying, Like, if you
don't get that fourth down, I will

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say I wish they probably ran a
little bit more in the third quarter because

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we saw in the ot when they
started off just running. We were like,

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oh shit, like they could just
run it, they'll be straight.

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That's why I didn't know the whole
time rules so too. I was like,

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yeah, it's running and then you
close it out done, it's yours.

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But I don't know, man,
I think you have to give respect

406
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:32.119
respects due. And that's like the
conversation is gonna lead to the next segment,

407
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.720
is is Patrick Mahomes a fucking go
because like, like I get it,

408
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.720
call my chograph you want, but
like Patrick Mahomes is fucking insane.

409
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.759
Yes, he is insane. Tom
Brady, what he's done in this league,

410
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:48.880
we thought, I think, I
mean, you can still kind of

411
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.480
say to say because what he's done
is saying too. But we never see

412
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.039
again in our lifetime. Here we
are, we're seeing it. We might

413
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.440
we might see it again in this
lifetime. I mean, this is not

414
00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.680
He's halfway there in six years and
six years he's got three Super Bowls,

415
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.799
three Super Bowl MVPs, and two
MVPs. Chris apologizes, but I didn't

416
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.079
get to go to during the chokes
off either. Yeah, I just feel

417
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.480
like it. When it comes to
that, you have to say he's starting

418
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.920
to choke. Because Spencer made up
the good point of Patrick Mahomes is only

419
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.519
on one side of the ball,
and you are known as the offensive guy

420
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.720
and your offense stalls with the lead
like this is a This is a guy

421
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.119
that has consistently come up short.
So I think and I get your point

422
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.880
of Okay, his Super Bowl losses
are to the two people that were having

423
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:36.079
the discussion for goat consider what has
too But you know what he does have

424
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.960
that that Mahomes doesn't have right now
is a star studded team. Mahomes has

425
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.519
good players on his team, but
you can't tell me top to bottom.

426
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.359
Watching the first three quarters of that
game, it is clear Sam fran is

427
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:53.079
the better team top to bottom,
like like completely clear. So for that

428
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.680
to happen and then for you to
have the lead and then come up short,

429
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.359
I think you have to consider it. You have to sit it a

430
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.680
choke. And if you want to, like Spencer said, if you want

431
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.640
to say he you can't say he's
not. I can't say not not like

432
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.079
you can. You don't have to
say he is a choker. But it's

433
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.599
very hard to make the argument that
he's not. I don't agree. I

434
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.839
mean, again the context of like
what he went to war with and then

435
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.720
when he was going up against I
mean, when Patrick Mahomes got that ball

436
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.039
that he wasn't go down there and
score, they held him to fourth fourth

437
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:27.319
him at fourth down? Did you
think that he was gonna go down there

438
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.160
and score? Though? Yes,
yeah, you thought Patrick Hoummes was gonna

439
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.200
score one hundred percent. I thought
he was going to score on that last

440
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.319
touchdown. That's why we said yes. Yeah, no, I said,

441
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.200
I thought you didn't think he was
going to score? Oh no, yeah,

442
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:47.680
it's Patrick mahone exactly. Regulation here's
another sample actually too. And actually

443
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.960
this is what I want to answer
for because I don't know the answer to

444
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.759
it. If nobody's listening to chat
and and historians, and I want you

445
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.400
to come accurate the two because I
want to be up here saying, dumb

446
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.440
ship, can you name me the
other coach has gone to the Super Bowl

447
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:06.240
with multiple different quarterbacks Sean McVay.
Yeah, yeah, that's true, and

448
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.599
they're the great coach though, but
yeah, outside of that, and guess

449
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:15.119
what the I don't know that Sean
mc got there, got there with a

450
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.640
certain type of quarterback, said fuck, I don't know if we get this

451
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.519
done with this type of quarterback,
and what do you do? He went

452
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.359
and got a guy who could make
shit happen, and then they go happen.

453
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.240
They won the fucking super Bowl,
like Andy Reid, another example of

454
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.079
it. Got there, but when
he got his quarterback, then he started.

455
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.839
When Andy Reid did multiple multiple quarterbacks, Yeah, right, get there

456
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.920
Smith Smith ever went with them,
And again I hate for this. It

457
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.640
sounds like I'm shitting on Rock Party
and Jimmy g but it's just the reality

458
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.000
situation, Like there are levels to
this. You see, those guys are

459
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.039
good at what they do, and
then you'd be absolutely right. But like

460
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.000
levels to this, you know what
I'm saying, Like the ship that Stafford.

461
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.920
I'm not gonna use my home because
mahomes in a fucking other atmosphere.

462
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.680
But ship the Stafford does BERTI perty
couldn't dream of doing. That's fair.

463
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.680
Yeah, I mean if he gets
one those and don't forget too. They

464
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.279
were trying to trade for Stafford mahomes
with this boy up and they tried to

465
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.839
trade for Lance choked on that.
Yeah, exactly, worst trade in the

466
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.720
history of the NFL. Well,
Sean, that's actually a good question too,

467
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.240
is just sewn Sean? For sure? After doing that, do you

468
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:22.000
are you done with you try to
upgrade to like a Stafford type of dude.

469
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.640
I think you have to. I
think you got to do a last

470
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.359
dance, like this window is not
going to stay open forever. Yeah,

471
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.000
right, like Trent Williams. And
they got all those dudes on contracts.

472
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.880
Hella touches? How long did he
go for? Was hanked up last night?

473
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:44.960
In overtime? Thirty touches and overtime
he was gassed? Yeah, Bill

474
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.240
Belichick, did you do it with
with his name or something? No?

475
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.240
No, he didn't get there with
Brady. Did he get through with blood

476
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:57.480
saw? No, Brady came in
for champions Yeah, won their Super Bowl.

477
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:03.720
Yeah, they're bad. Turned to
a piss on golf second. Well,

478
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:08.400
it just it just I always gotta
find a way his levels levels.

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sorry and bad Man Journal. Welcome
back to whatever Way's libor sports dot com.

504
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.279
Appreciate you guys for tapping in with
us. I'm easy. If you

505
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.200
haven't listened, that's been more Rex, that's young Chris, that's Nicholas call

506
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:20.519
off, and that's the light button
somewhere around. Smash it, Smash smash.

507
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.920
I'll be a friends to our friendship. The stream we're debating, I

508
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.319
guess it's child hitch hands and choke
guards. I just I don't. I

509
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.319
can't see it that way. When
he's given the history and give all he's

510
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:36.079
going up against and who's going up
against. And those two choking situations are

511
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:42.079
three, if you will, Tom
Brady and Patrick Mahaks goats goats. The

512
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.759
question is means being out of this
conversation the way back, and I couldn't

513
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.480
refute anything you were saying. And
I don't know if I feel any different

514
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.279
today. Who should go this morning
when you woke up? I mean,

515
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.519
Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. Yeah, shout out, let me

516
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.119
wash those feet, curse my Lord
and Savior. Yea, my Lord,

517
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.799
say appreciation. I still gotta go
with Brady, man, I still gotta

518
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:10.360
go with Brady as of right now
because he's it is February. No,

519
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.400
I still gotta go with Brady just
because you never know what can happen to

520
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.760
a guy. You never know what
with the trajectory, with how it's going,

521
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.119
it does look like Patrick Mahomes is
gonna get there, But like seven

522
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.639
to three, I mean, that's
still a pretty big gap. And Brady

523
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:30.440
did it with two teams, two
regimes. If say, Patrick Mahomes wins

524
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.400
another two for KSE and then goes
to Jacksonville and wins the Chip. Then

525
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:37.719
I'll be like, all right,
yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes. I'll say

526
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.440
Patrick Mahomes the most talented quarterback I've
ever seen. He's got the most skill.

527
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.320
Yeah, but goat, winning is
what's most important in sports. Winning

528
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.559
matters more than anything else. Winning
matters more than talent. Winning matters more

529
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:58.320
than athletic ability. You play to
win the game, and Tom Brady did

530
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.800
it more than anybody else. So
I'm saying Brady as right now. And

531
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:07.880
Tom Brady beat the allegations of being
Bill Belichick dependent, yeah, because he

532
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.880
went and he did it with the
Bucks. So even though that Bucks team

533
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.119
was yuck, but Brady, like, don't act like he was no.

534
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:19.440
Like he threw for four thousand yards
fifty touchdowns. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

535
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.480
still give it to Brady as of
right now. But Patrick Mahomes is hot

536
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.000
on the hot on the tail,
like he's getting pretty damn close. Yeah

537
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.880
for me, man, I'm siding
with you. That's why I was in

538
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.800
the car last night. He kept
bringing up great points though, but for

539
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.679
me, it's seven rings, bro, Seven rings, man, I don't

540
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:43.199
care how they came. Seven rings, and like to know that he because

541
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.880
Here's what's one thing you said that
I agree. I think anybody that if

542
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.519
you don't agree, I just I
mean, maybe there's someone I haven't seen

543
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.480
that you maybe a damn marine or
something like that. But he is the

544
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.480
most talented quarterback, the greatest skilled
quarterback. I'm talking about Patrick Mahomes that

545
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.559
I've ever seen. I think that's
ever played in the game. There's many

546
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.599
people that have been in the game, watched the game for a long time.

547
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.760
They have that in opinion. I
don't think you know that. So

548
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.639
for Tom Brady not to have that
skill set, IM credit Bill Bichick too.

549
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.360
But they did it again once without
Bill back, but seven of those.

550
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.920
And you talked about how the past
two for Patrick Mahomes have been with

551
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.440
scrap heaps and wide receiver, Yeah, Brady never had. Brady's best receiver

552
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.159
was Brandy Moss and they didn't win
the Super Bowl that year. Brady had

553
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.159
the stud tight end like Patrick Mahomes
did. He always had a good tight

554
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.800
end, whether it be Gronk or
Aaron Hernandez. But you look at the

555
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:35.199
receivers that Brady did. Brady made
made Dion Branch a pro bowler. Brady

556
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:42.679
brought Julian Edelman, Wes Welker and
uh Danny mmon doola to be household name

557
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:50.280
Chris three five eight white dudes like
our household games in the NFL because of

558
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.199
Tom Brady. Who were Tom Brady's
best running backs when he was winning Super

559
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:59.119
Bowls. James White, Like,
come on, James White was crazy in

560
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.840
the Super Bowl and it's like,
dude, it's break. His defense was

561
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.360
always loaded on. Yeah, but
this is the what Mahomes is doing right

562
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:12.679
now is how Brady won his Super
Bowls his whole career. Stud tight end,

563
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.519
great defense, nobody watch receivers.
That's how carry more like like Tom

564
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.000
Brady Moore. Again, I don't
mean there's a dispeactfl away, and I

565
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.800
hope this isn't taking this dispeaful away, but like systematically just finally the open

566
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.800
guy, just being smart, making
the right throws, taking hold in your

567
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:31.000
mom up guy, Like right,
Mahomes, I mean we just said last

568
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.320
night, if something's not there,
like you take that bitch for twenty hours.

569
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.440
Yeah it's not. He's like the
mole. He's not like the fastest

570
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.360
guy either. He just Brady used
to tuck that bitch when he when he

571
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:45.760
has. He was and he looked
like a gump. But he would pick

572
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.079
out four. When he pick up
four, guys, I've seen him break

573
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:52.800
a couple. Uh shot out to
where was it? Damn it what somebody

574
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:58.119
said about Joe Montana. Oh m
p w Joe Montanna went four and oh

575
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.880
coke to the gills. Dude,
you gotta but he had the playmaker like

576
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.760
he had, you know, the
record holder. And but still like hal

577
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.400
Mahomes is doing it right now is
what Brady did it with his every year

578
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.199
he won the Super Bowl. Nobody
wide receivers, a great tight end and

579
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.840
a great defense. Yeah, I
think Mahomes carry's more of the load than

580
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.679
Brady did. With all due respect. Hell yeah, but yeah, no,

581
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.880
he's got he's gotta get. He's
got to get to five or six

582
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.960
before I can put him up a
Brady yes, And that sounds insane to

583
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.239
say, I guess, But like
this guy went back to back and with

584
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.800
again no dispect the scrappiete at the
wide receiver position. We talked about the

585
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.119
play callers that Brady did it with. Oh, like Bill O'Brien is a

586
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.280
fantastic that was probably Brady's best.
Oh, see was Bill O'Brien, But

587
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.880
Josh McDaniels, this wizard, this
whiz kid did nothing with either of his

588
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.679
head coaching opportunities and did nothing with
Mac Jones. So was it Josh McDaniels

589
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.239
being a wizard on as offensive coordinator
or was it Tom Brady be in the

590
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.400
goat? Evidence shows that it was
Tom Brady being the goat? Yeah,

591
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.960
so I Mahomes is definitely on his
way. If he has another six years

592
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.119
like these first six years, then
yes he is the goat. But I

593
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.320
think skill set wise, pound for
pound, obviously it's Mahomes. Yet actually

594
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.960
have it because they both started that
they both began or became starters at the

595
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.639
twenty year twenty three, at twenty
three years of age. We have the

596
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.880
numbers, the stats before they turned
thirty. Look at this bro. Yeah.

597
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.960
So if you guys are listening on
audio, we got Tom Brady with

598
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.159
three thousand, two hundred and seventeen
yards the playoffs stats, Patrick Mahomes.

599
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.280
Oh wow, he had his playoff
stats before turny thirty. Patrick Mahomes of

600
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.039
five thousand and thirty five, You've
got Tom Brady touchdowns is great to Tom

601
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.559
Brady's twenty Yeah, you got Tom
Bradys nine perceptions of Patrick Mahomes eight.

602
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.239
I'm sure Mahomes probably don't catch up
or be above him in that one.

603
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.119
But then here's this part of it
too. I'm talking about like Mahomes kind

604
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.480
of carrying more than load. You
got three super Bowl championships, three Super

605
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.840
Bowl MVPs. Tom Brady with three
super Bowl championships, only two super Bowl

606
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.800
MVPs. And how about this because
he just stats before the age of thirty,

607
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.599
Patrick Holmes does two more years ago
because he's only twenty eight years old.

608
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.840
Yeah, so hot on the tail. But as you said too,

609
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.800
is you gotta take your hats off
too for him? Just I think somebody

610
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.280
else said in the chat. Don't
know if you did it, but like

611
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.519
just Tom Brady surviving that long enough
to like do that, Yeah, because

612
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.840
guys get hurt this league. Guys
get hurt in this league all the time.

613
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.639
That is a motherfucker who dedicated his
body, his life, his soul,

614
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.920
his marriage, his children to the
NFL. Like he literally got divorced

615
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.800
with a Brazilian supermodel because he was
married to the game. Like that's how

616
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.800
you know Tom Brady's the man.
Fact And I love it. Like if

617
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:45.960
they three peat next year, you
might have to say it's patty. Yeah.

618
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.039
Like if they threep next year,
nobody is ever three pated in the

619
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.360
NFL. That's fair. If they
go out there and three point stay won'tcause

620
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.559
the Lion's went fuck super Bowl next
year, that's fuck three p But he's

621
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.400
building the case right now. I'm
still going bra and I will say I

622
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.599
love Tom Brady, but Patrick Mahomes
is getting up there. He's definitely two

623
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.679
yeah, definitely two nick. I
think a big thing in all of this,

624
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.840
fellas is how long is Andy Reid
gonna stay with Patrick Mahons and Travis

625
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.760
Kelce true that, Yeah, they
have a great thing going. I personally

626
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.039
right now still stick with Brady.
But in the next ten years, I

627
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.320
mean, would it doubt anybody to
see Patrick Mahomes get four more Super Bowls?

628
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.480
The way this is going right now, he's unstoppable and get when he

629
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.760
gets into that game, Like there's
I cannot believe he was an underdog in

630
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.079
this game. It's like that was
just free cash on everything. But the

631
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.800
way, I don't know if if
you guys saw the show Quarterback that they

632
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:49.119
aired on Netflix, but the way
this dude ticks and prepares it, nothing's

633
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.400
gonna stop this kid. I believe
one day he will be the goat.

634
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.400
And it's not today, it's not
gonna be next year, even if he

635
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.719
three peats, but he will get
to that seven super Bowl champion ships.

636
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.719
And when he gets to the seven
Lombards, I mean he's tied with the

637
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.920
the skill just takes him over.
Can you say, like the different era

638
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:12.840
being like in Patrick Mahomes favor two
with aple of distractions nowadays? Yeah,

639
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.039
I mean Brady played in this era
too though, like and he won a

640
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.960
Super Bowl with four years ago,
so it's not like he wasn't he was

641
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.800
out of the league. He's doing
this like I mean, like the back

642
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.159
to backs and like he's won two
of the last ten Super Bowls. Still

643
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.719
still still yeah, Tom Brady has
so like that's my guy. Man.

644
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.239
I love Tom Brady, like even
though he's just the son in the mouth,

645
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.119
which is weird because you would look
at like the like the quarterback thing

646
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.400
they did on Netflix, look at
that as a distraction, Travis Kelcey doing

647
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:47.119
fift the commercials and Dayton David Swift
as distractions. Yeah, there's no excuse

648
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.280
for these guys. Tom Brady's team, they were murdering people and he was

649
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:57.079
still winning Super Bowl. No oneknew
at the time partying like dude. His

650
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:02.159
dad got arrested for d one last
week. His brother Guy divorced from a

651
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:08.760
Brazilian supermodel and went and won the
Super Bowl. His brother sexual soul allegations.

652
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.840
Last year, he kissed his son
on the mouth. And still he

653
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.639
has to do with Brittany fucking my
homes every day man's wife. But what

654
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.559
what what? Yeah, it tosses
to me, you disrespect the man's life.

655
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.440
But no, I think I think
about homes Is. We're all gonna

656
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.360
say the same thing here. The
more talented pound for pound quarterback, it's

657
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.000
just about filling out the resume.
That's just where it's at with Mahomes.

658
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.800
I watched this guy and that last
drive and overtime you just knew, You

659
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.039
just knew the whole time, and
the fourth quarter drive, but particularly the

660
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.000
overtime. You're just watching it and
he just doesn't make a wrong stake and

661
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:52.599
a mistake and it doesn't even look
like he's close to like fumbling the game

662
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.239
away at all. It's just like
every single play. It's just like robotic,

663
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.320
like we talked about like Kawhi Leonder
that way in basketball. How he

664
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.400
just like plays like a robot,
like a computer. That was my Homes

665
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.719
that whole fourth quarter and overtime.
It was just it was just like he

666
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.239
was going through the motions. He
was always making the right play. There

667
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.039
was never any doubt in my mind. It didn't matter how much time we

668
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.280
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669
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I'm easy spin more wrecks, Nicholas
call off smash out like one time to

686
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.639
reel this into a Detroit Lions conversation, Antonio Brown put it out there.

687
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.719
You touched on a little bit there. Oh yeah, and the big CTESBN

688
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.480
dude, greatest tweet of all time? Wait, which one ct ain't effect

689
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.800
this dig though? Is how he
said, yeah, bro go And here

690
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.679
is Antonio Brown's tweet. He says, it feels like the Lions would be

691
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.400
up thirty five to ten right now. And I mentioned this in the opening

692
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.599
where I yeah, they would have
had the best offense on the field last

693
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.760
night, I will admit that they
would have had the best run offense.

694
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.239
They would have had the best that
offensive line. How much more do we

695
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.599
respect the Lions offensive line now?
After seeing what San Francisco did to Kansas

696
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.920
City in that first half? They
were getting pressure and pressure and pressure,

697
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.519
and that Lion's offensive line whoop.
The forty nine ers defensive lines ass and

698
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:47.079
but the defenses that's the calling card, that's what makes the difference. That

699
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:53.119
is two of the top three defenses
in the NFL we saw playing last night,

700
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:58.519
like two of the top four I'll
say, because the other two are

701
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.960
probably Cleveland and Baltimore. And you
want to rock party today. But these

702
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:07.239
guys, with the forty nine Ers
having what four first team All Pros on

703
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.760
the defensive side of the ball,
the Chiefs having a couple first team All

704
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.599
Pros on the defensive side of the
ball, I don't know if the Lions

705
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.760
defense would be able to stop the
opposing offenses like we saw them each do

706
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:23.159
last night, Nick, are the
Detroit Lions ready for would have took to

707
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:30.480
win that game last night? I
believe this offense is elite, and we

708
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.000
just basically choked in the second half
with turnovers and non conversions on fourth down.

709
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.320
So yeah, I believe they do. And if they don't fumble that

710
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.159
game Jamir Gibbs, and if they
pick up the fourth down with Josh Reynolds,

711
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.280
they are in the super Bowl.
And like Chris spoket on earlier in

712
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:51.039
the show, I thought the forty
nine ers were clear as day the better

713
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.280
team on that field. They really
looked that way, and that means the

714
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.440
Lions hung with the better team in
the Super Bowl that just didn't have Patrick

715
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.400
Mahoons. It's basically what it comes
down to for me. Yes, the

716
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:06.519
Alliance deserved to be there, and
I think they deserve to be there next

717
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.880
year, and I think they have
a full on chance to win it,

718
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:19.679
especially with the defensive reinforcements coming in. I know people want their biases confirmed,

719
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.000
but I'm kind of in the campus
spinney. I don't know if the

720
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:28.280
Alliance necessary had what it took to
get the job done last night. I

721
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.320
just part of it is that man, that man Mahomes, and I know

722
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:37.119
we did begin the season, but
I'm not giving an asterix to it.

723
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.400
But it's the context of the situation. You were missing what because we're both

724
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.599
flights. No, the context of
it, though, they're missing two men

725
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.239
that were the second and third best
players on there. Yes, Chris Jones

726
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.280
and traps, but this is context
that situation. Chris Jones was monstrous.

727
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.920
Guy is a beast. Yes,
I had it on the prepsheet a little

728
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.800
bit, But I feel like I
kind of did that debate on Friday.

729
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.960
It was who would rather have Chris
Jones or Jerry Steed? Chris Chris j

730
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.960
Give me Chris Jones. A guy
like that makes your secondary looks so much

731
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.760
better, so much and we live
through the Don Casue stuff. We talked

732
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.599
about that probably too, but I
just don't know if they're ready for all

733
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.000
that. But that doesn't mean they
can't. But I think if you make

734
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.079
the right moves, they could do
it. I think they Lions could beat

735
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:22.639
that Chiefs team if you if you
made it a super team. If I'd

736
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.239
being honest with you, I think
that's the only way you wanted a Super

737
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:29.920
Bowl with our style. Play at
the quarterback position is making a super team.

738
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:31.840
Yeah, because once you watch Patrick
Holmes, I hope there's only one

739
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:36.639
one Patrick Mahomes, No funk that. I hope there's another Patrick Mahomes.

740
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.880
We get them. Yeah, yeah, you mean Jared Goss better than Patrick

741
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.840
Holmes. Apparently to some people he's
the m v P. But I King

742
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.079
Horse says, I can't wait for
Nick to drop his new barbershop quartet album.

743
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.280
But it's that is obviously with the
Lions. With the Lions need in

744
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.199
the off season is to add more
talent to that defense. The Lions need.

745
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.079
They need a number one cornerback,
they need another edge rusher, they

746
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.000
need somebody on the interior defensive line. So that's we all know that that's

747
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.960
the case. There's nobody out there
saying that our defense is on par with

748
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.280
the Niners or the Chiefs like.
So, yeah, it would have been

749
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.960
a more exciting football game, for
sure. It would have been close either

750
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.000
way. But if the Lions were
in there instead of the forty nine ers,

751
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.360
it would have been, you know, in the thirties. So Chris

752
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.760
Knicks band, I believe that Dan
Campbell doesn't settle though maybe he goes right

753
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:34.559
on that fourth down. That's like
some of the difference in the game.

754
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.920
It seems like Shanahan did kind of
tense up a little bit. He went

755
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.199
on fourth down the Reds on that
one time. Then it was scoring.

756
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:49.079
They got the weekend and overtime he
didn't, which again I don't think.

757
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.480
I'm not sure you got to kick
the field going overtime. You can't give

758
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.119
it to Patrick mahomes with he only
needs a field goal to win Super Bowl.

759
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.159
Yeah, that's rare. Matt too, Where are saying the nick?

760
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.400
I apologize? You think it's a
fourth down conversion of the difference, Yeah,

761
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.280
I don't. I just feel like
we would have kept the ball out

762
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.800
of Mahon's hands more is that would
have been our game plan, you know,

763
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.599
running the ball, not fumbling early
with christ like Christian mccaffley, but

764
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.440
McCaffrey. But it's easy to say
that now looking into it. But I

765
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.760
mean we took care of the Chiefs
on the road the first time. It

766
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:28.559
would have been a mutual site,
you know. So decide who's the away

767
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.079
team in the Super Bowl? Worst
record maybe? Yeah, I think it's

768
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.000
by a record for the mistaken And
I don't really know because I'm pretty sure

769
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.199
no, because the Chief called right, huh, San Frank called stan Fran

770
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.920
was the await team. Yeah,
they have the better record. That's weird,

771
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.119
probably because maybe the Ravens had the
best record in the AFC. I

772
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.400
don't know. That would maybe make
some I don't know, that's a good

773
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.840
question. Look, yeah, you
mind looking that up. I'm very curious

774
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.000
what the answers that one is.
But no, I think I think again,

775
00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:59.800
I'll say it again, if I
think we have what it takes in

776
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.639
the off inside of the ball,
I think between Ben Johnson and what Jared

777
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.320
Goff has been as of late,
along with the weapons that like you can

778
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.039
hold your own at that far part
of it, but like that part of

779
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.800
it, but give me some of
the defensive side of the ball as at

780
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.400
least causing turnovers or forcing field goals
in the end, I know they did

781
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.320
that again. Getst the Chiefs the
first summerround bets without the Travis Kelsey pat

782
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.920
defensive Patrick o'faria says, the San
Fraan receivers look like doodoo. Well,

783
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:28.239
I mean they're also going up against
the first team All Pro cornerback in Trent

784
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:32.360
McDuffie and another all Pro cornerback in
Lugerious Sneed Like those are two very good

785
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.719
guys to have on the outside and
all Pro with Chris j with Chris Jones

786
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.800
being Chris Jones All Pro defense in
lineman and Chris Jones. George Carloutis looked

787
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.880
amazing last night ten for Nick Bolton. We knows the study as well.

788
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.559
Defense is very very talented. Fred
Viach he did his damn thing. That's

789
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:53.400
for damnons All pro cornerback showed out. They alternate every other super Bowl,

790
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.559
So nothing crazy. Okay, yeah, that makes that makes more sense.

791
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.079
I mean, I guess doesn't matter
the way, So yeah, I guess

792
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:07.639
what would have been like for us
the monochromatic what detru Lions on next year?

793
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.840
That means the Detroit Lions where the
Blueberries in the Super Bowl next year?

794
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:20.719
How you feeling? But like again, if the true lines want to

795
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.199
do it, I think they have
to do some of the things we're gonna

796
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.840
talk about later on the show has
acquire like these super Bowl pieces, like

797
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.320
the way we just mentioned all these
all pros on the defense side of the

798
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.800
ball for actually both these teams,
that's what we're gonna need to complete the

799
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.679
mission. In my opinion, I
don't know that like the only way they

800
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.760
get it done is like in a
blow out fashion. We're just beating the

801
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:38.360
shout guys. I don't know.
I don't know if we go tip for

802
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:42.679
tad against Patrick freakin Mahomes, although
we quite literally did with the Rams.

803
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.360
That's a stacked team too, though
that was very stacked team, Very stacked,

804
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:53.239
am I I mean, no,
Chris, what are the true lines

805
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.840
ready to do with the Are the
true lines ready to win that game last

806
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.599
night? Yeah? I think it's
a different game, but I think it's

807
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.559
a win game. I think you, like, like you said, you're

808
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:05.639
not it's not gonna be that low
scoring because people are talking about, oh

809
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.599
yeah, the Lions wouldn't have three
points at halftime, but they also wouldn't

810
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:13.119
only have let up ten points,
probably like against Patrick Mahomes. So I

811
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.679
think it's I think it's a game
where it is winnable because you're right,

812
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.840
you did beat them without two of
their three best players, but it was

813
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.440
in their home field, which was
an advantage that they wouldn't have had.

814
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.679
I feel like the Lions for the
Super Bowl would have had the home field

815
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.920
advantage because I feel like they are
the story. They are America's team,

816
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.159
as we've said all year. I
think they would have actually had somewhat of

817
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.480
an advantage in that game, if
anything, But I think town wise,

818
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.920
I mean, yeah, this this
offense can score points on anybody, and

819
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:44.440
it's just about if the defense makes
enough place. And that's what it comes

820
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.519
down to with the defense is it's
always been the variance of the defense.

821
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:50.199
But if the defense had a good
game, the Lions could have won.

822
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.119
But says Speedy Sports, I promise, I mean zero try with this question.

823
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.960
But what are your thoughts about the
less Need after his unsports conduct penalty?

824
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.000
Were you a Sneed fan before last
night? Jerry? You see them

825
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:08.039
right? Yeah? In the show? What was the penalty? I don't

826
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:13.840
remember which one? Which one did
he have? It was after the play?

827
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.599
I believe you always smacked that guy
in the face. Was a diva

828
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:22.119
holding him? Uh? Yeah?
Some of the smacked him in the face.

829
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:30.320
Yeah, doing work shout on Terry
fo bathroom. I was like,

830
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:35.320
what happened? You guys are like
what top five moment in my broadcast?

831
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:45.400
Yeah he reacted to getting like kind
of hell down? Yeah yeah, yeah,

832
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:47.800
I still like him. Do I
think Dan Campbell brings him in?

833
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.800
I don't know. I think listening
to him like through interviews, and it's

834
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.280
hard to tell these people because you
don't know the mass bad you know,

835
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.280
what do you mean these people?
The athletes? I mean like you don't

836
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.880
you're not in the draft process during
the interviews to say and Campbell guys per

837
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.079
se. I mean, I know
a Dan Campbell guy when I see it.

838
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.719
Dan, Okay, you have the
Dan Campbell radar? Yes, what

839
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:07.400
do you what's the what's the I
think Jalen Johnson's more of a Dan Campbell

840
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:12.079
guy than I think the Jerious needs
more than a Dan Campbell guy than Jayleen

841
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:17.679
Johnson. They both get tagged another
both Yeah, they' both probably gettingaged for

842
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:21.239
sure. No, I'm still down
with the Jerry sneed. I'm totally down

843
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:22.840
for that. Give me. He's
another big body corner. He's obviously pormed

844
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:27.440
the highest level. I think obviously
having the pieces I mentioned before help him

845
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:29.960
do that. Though the George call
off, this Chris Jones, it's a

846
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.079
couple of the guys in the defensive
line too, I mean Frank Clark once

847
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:34.880
upon a time as well. But
I think the Jerious needs a dog and

848
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.559
I don't think something like that should
stop him. It was it was a

849
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.519
reaction. It wasn't like he went
obvious way to be a dickhead, kind

850
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.800
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851
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876
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yeah, that's disgusting. Nick,
You guys want to judge him.

877
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:21.480
He likes blue cheese on swings.
Hot wings with blue cheese? Are you

878
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.559
kidding me? No? Discuss ranch
All, Yeah, ranch All day smashing

879
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:31.320
like my bee friends thinks, hey, bar, he has another one like

880
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:38.400
that too, m hm uh two
chains, but here at bar for the

881
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.840
deliveries and so like like, oh
he's got a great one. But I

882
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:49.480
can't say it on air. Why
it's very very explicit. Well, I

883
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.000
think you said, we're saying,
are quoting something too. Yeah, but

884
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:59.760
can you say f word or place
snake ass neighbors and my fucking face,

885
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:05.639
bring your girl here in neighbors so
I can preface it's a classic. But

886
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.639
go one, I brought some guccies
to your mama's just to leave them there

887
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:15.000
my blank so hard and make the
metal detector go off. And I wish

888
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.320
a neighbor would like a kitchen cabinet. Yeah, No, blue cheese is

889
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:21.280
gross. Yeah, blue cheese is
uh. I don't understand how you guys

890
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.039
stuff smash that like button to be
a friend's with a friend, childish for

891
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:29.000
liking ranch or blue cheese. Ranch
is just better? He's with me,

892
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.639
let's go. I think it's both. I mean, isn't dairy just mold

893
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:42.039
general's cheese moldy cheese. Yeah.
Broder actually perfect timing with that question because

894
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:47.039
it kind of segues into the topic. Our guy cd DJ was was pretty

895
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:52.559
feeling pretty good last night on social
media again, okay, speaking of two

896
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.440
chains. He posted a video big
Bank take a Little Bank, featured Nick

897
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:00.280
nasing them and then following that he
had this posted and it it's a Graham

898
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.480
story. I think both of my
Instagram story. You don't mind throwing this

899
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.159
one o, Chris, it's him, He's reposted Deebo Samuel's thing. It's

900
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.920
a see y'all next year with a
heart. But Spinny, what colors that

901
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:19.119
are? The heart is Hanolulu blue? The heart's blue? Talking about making

902
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:22.199
money, he's he can't he can't
be negotiate with other teams that don't happen

903
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.559
like sixteen days or a month.
I'm not mistaken. So it could only

904
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.320
be the Lions that like, he's
talking about making a big bank take a

905
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.840
little bank. What are you thinks
going on there? C JJ resigned the

906
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.119
Detroit Lions. I'm good with it
if they do like that. For that

907
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.679
for the Lions, for sure,
I don't know if they're breaking the bank

908
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:46.199
to resign the CJDJ again and the
big bank take little bank thing, I

909
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:52.440
didn't really understand because Debo's let's play. He's gonna make a lot of money.

910
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:55.360
I don't think. I don't think
got its like he's about to get

911
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.880
money, he's about to get paid. We'll see, we'll see what happens

912
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:02.960
there. And I I don't like
I saw fans doing this, and obviously

913
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.320
CJ did it, I don't see
many other players doing it. But when

914
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.679
fans like talk shit about a team
losing in the super Bowl or in the

915
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:15.440
conference championship like Vikings fans, we're
talking shit about the Lions winning or losing

916
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:21.119
in the conference. You didn't even
make the playoffs. Why why are you

917
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:25.800
talking shit? You guys are losers. Shit about a team losing in the

918
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.559
conference championship game when you didn't make
the playoffs. And I don't like seeing

919
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.719
people take shots at the Niners for
losing in the super Bowl when we lost

920
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.199
to them in the in the Confege
Championship. Well, I took a shot

921
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.559
somebody I messed with on Twitter because
like that's what we do, trademarkers.

922
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.039
If you don't follow him, he's
my favorite follows on Twitter. But I

923
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:46.920
took a shot at him. It's
like, you know, my boy,

924
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:52.639
though, that's fine, but I'm
within that one to the Vikings fans,

925
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.079
like last time you guys were in
the playoffs, you got smacked at home

926
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.719
by Daniel Jones Danny divest paid.
Yeah, no, I don't want hear

927
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.760
none of that. But would you
react to that? Nick? Did you

928
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:05.719
watch it? Did just see a
video from we can't play it? Because

929
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.480
he was like obviously playing music.
But was your reaction to CJDJ posts and

930
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:13.880
the blue Heart along with ce y'all
next year. I think it's good to

931
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.119
see that he wants to come back. I mean, he only he got

932
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:21.000
a very short stint in here.
We don't know what he could be in

933
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.119
the biggest game of his career as
a Lion. He actually struggled against the

934
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:28.960
forty nine ers. He did pick
up that one penalty against Deebo. I

935
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.199
want to see the bigger sample size
for the right price. As Spencer said,

936
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:37.800
I'm not gonna take snaps away of
Brian branch Ifi Malafanu who's been coming

937
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:42.159
on super hot. We know the
kind of playmaker Kirby Joseph is in the

938
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:45.039
back end, and I just don't
want to They got to get creative on

939
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.480
the back end if we are going
to bring him back, because I don't

940
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:52.880
want to take snaps away from those
guys, especially a guy like Brian Branch

941
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:57.119
who got his spots lit or his
snaps limited in the NFC Championship game.

942
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.320
So as long as it's at the
right price and as long as it's not

943
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.039
taking snaps away from Branch, I'm
cool with bringing him back. Yeah.

944
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.280
I guess now that I guess it's
Spain someone if it's a shot, because

945
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:08.719
it can't be shot debo if like
he ain't make as much as Debo.

946
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.880
Yeah, so it's got to be
a shot contract. Maybe he's being happy

947
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:15.920
that he's losing. I mean,
I don't know, Chris. You had

948
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.480
your hand up, yeah, because
thanks thanks for saying that. But that's

949
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.679
the time every time Chris put on
a grab, he goes all right,

950
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:25.960
yep, here you go. Deebo's
big salary this year was twenty million dollars.

951
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.840
Yeah, so I don't think it's
I mean, yeah, I don't

952
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.079
think it's that it's him getting paid, right, Chris, were you want

953
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.159
to say it has I was just
about to say this is nothing but good

954
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.920
news because you look at Brad Holmes
in this regime, what have they proven

955
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.280
to do what did they do last
year? Jamal Williams was a guy that

956
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.360
everybody thought was going to be back, that clearly wanted to be back,

957
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.079
and Brad Holmes still made the decision
to go elsewhere and get David Montgomery,

958
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.360
which we all think is is the
right decision hindsight. So to me,

959
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:59.760
cj DJ saying he wants to come
back to this Lions team is nothing but

960
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:01.880
good news because it doesn't mean that
Brad's going to overpay to get him.

961
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:08.239
It doesn't mean anything like that.
All Brad is shown that he is going

962
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:11.920
to make the best decision for this
team. He is going to be very

963
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.519
wise and conscious of his spending in
free agency. So to me, this

964
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.760
either means he's coming back at a
discount or Brad Holmes is going to find

965
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:24.360
somebody else that he likes and this
is just another player that wants to come

966
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.440
to Detroit, which is a good
thing to see because you know, the

967
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.199
more players that want to be in
Detroit, the better then you have to

968
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.840
Then you can pick and choose instead
of having to be desperate. Let him

969
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:38.840
have a true opinion on it that
I don't want to express until it happens.

970
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.360
I want to happen first in a
good way too, by the way,

971
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.280
I want a jinxcene thing or you
know, scurry anything away from from

972
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.199
what the situation is. But I
think if he's brought back on a highly

973
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.679
incentivized contract, I'm all for it. I one piece. I do believe

974
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.360
though, that is very positive future
lines. The fact that he wants to

975
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.440
come back, I'm assuming so whether
maybe the blue heart, which is right

976
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.480
you pressure like a recent emojis maybe
that's just recently because the heat line season

977
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:09.679
was over. I don't know or
intentionally used that blue heart. The fact

978
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.199
that he wants to come back means
one, you're a little harder than Leave

979
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:17.559
of the Beaver. So was that
he Rascal Wally Missus Cleaver two, Tupac

980
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:24.679
your parc none. Three. People
were probably so confused right now. Non

981
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.199
No. But seriously, I think
one, he's willing to play in that

982
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.280
rotational role that he was kind of
asked for him at to end the season,

983
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:35.920
because I'm assuming that's what like it
was explained to him. Otherwise,

984
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.440
maybe he's expecting to go in to
camp and win the job over. But

985
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.800
I still, like Nick said,
I don't think you should be taking away

986
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.360
snaps from guys like Brian Branch and
Fontaine Fan who clearly produced in their roles

987
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.719
this year as young pieces two.
I mean, if this is thirty year

988
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.320
here, but it's also as you
know, first the second year in the

989
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.079
in that roles is safety. And
then the other part of it too is

990
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.280
he wants to come back here because
he wants to win. Talking about all

991
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.000
next year to defend the NFC Conference
champions that means his expectation is to be

992
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.920
there again next year and using that
blue heart means with the Detroit Lions.

993
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.480
Yeah, So if that's his intentions
in coming back, you know, fitting

994
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.840
that rotation or fitting whatever the role
may be, and competing to win that

995
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.039
Super Bowl, then I'm all for
it because, as I said before,

996
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.440
if you're gonna win a Super Bowl
with a quarterback like Jared Goff, you're

997
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.639
gonna need a stack roster. And
as much as people may think there's like

998
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.960
some type of beef there between like
he and I, he is a good

999
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.639
player. I've never not said he
wasn't a good player. I may have

1000
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:29.679
made fun of him and he had
a bad game, but I've never not

1001
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.039
said he was a good player.
Like consistently. Even a little bit of

1002
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.320
time that he had this year with
us, he was had impactful moments,

1003
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:39.239
you know, to pick against the
Buccaneers. I think had another interception against

1004
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:43.280
the Vikings. So like, if
he's coming back and it's for something again,

1005
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.679
Holly, you symthivized or whatever it
may been. Bro, it's great

1006
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.320
new Detroit Lions. It is.
It is, And I agree with what

1007
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.079
Chris said, like, well,
both of you guys said, you know,

1008
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.480
it's good to have more people want
to be in Detroit. It's good

1009
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.159
to have players want to be in
Detroit. And he wants to be in

1010
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:00.639
Detroit because Detroit is a Super Bowl
contender, because Detroit is a team that's

1011
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:03.880
gonna win the NFC next year,
because Detroit is a team that's gonna win

1012
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:08.119
the Super Bowl next year. So
this is somewhere players are gonna want to

1013
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:12.480
be and I'm all here for it, man. I expect we'll see what

1014
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.560
happens. Man. I think they're
gonna bring him back, though it feels

1015
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:19.720
like they're gonna bring him back.
Lunch backa Lugan's and Wolbers sports chat signed

1016
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:24.600
cj DJ says the nickname wrong,
So sorry if he was good, but

1017
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.199
he's been proven to be injured every
year. Actually, FONTA Mila Final was

1018
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:31.960
the same time span. Has missed
less games than Chauncey Gunter Johnson. Johncey

1019
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.560
Gonna Johnson's missed more games than font
Milifinal in that same time span. So,

1020
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.720
to be honest with you, I
think that's why you might want to

1021
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.720
bring C JGJ back because you don't
really know if he's gonna you know,

1022
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:45.960
if you can rely, we've had
we've had a serious injury in the safety

1023
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:50.039
room in the past three years.
Yeah, all all the past three years,

1024
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:54.119
we've got a serious injury in that
safety room. So it's definitely good

1025
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:58.159
to have the depth there. Yeah, Now I'm with you, and like

1026
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.279
maybe they draft somebody, signed somebody
because Tracy's not gonna be there anymore either.

1027
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:04.279
To be honest with you, remember
too, Tracy was part of the

1028
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.840
prior regime, and though he got
re signed, I don't think it fits

1029
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:10.920
what ag he's trying to do.
I think we witnessed that when if he

1030
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.279
got you know, certain in the
defense, immediately impact Immediately, you're blitzing

1031
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.520
him more often and you're getting there
causing turnovers. Sacking the quarterback. Tracy

1032
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.520
didn't give you none of that.
I all due respect to Tracy too.

1033
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:24.239
Tracy got bench like the last four
games of the season. Yeah. Yeah,

1034
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.000
he's a cut candidate. Yeah yeah, he's getting cut. And I

1035
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.960
looked at it pre June. I
think it's got a five million dollars savings

1036
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.399
with Detroit Lions. Yeah, maybe
that goes to CJ. You know,

1037
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:34.520
maybe first year. I mean,
I don't know, I don't know what

1038
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:38.000
it is, but I'm totally cool
if he wants to come back. And

1039
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.960
I think if he does come back, it'll be in the favor of the

1040
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.880
Detroit Lions by all means, financially
and motivationally too, because he's coming back

1041
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.039
to win. So with that said, speating on some other Detroit Lions possible

1042
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:57.760
acquisitions, Uh, He've been in
my DMS about a certain defensive end in

1043
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.000
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These actually articles we've wrote in about these

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have to welcome back to what rev
waits smash the like button. Be a

1075
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.560
friend, some friend time A gets
some fun conversations. Once I've been noticed

1076
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:21.079
trading on you conversation on Twitter.
A lot of people na my DM Yeah,

1077
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:30.279
ask these very specific questions. Send
me, yeah, sendme links.

1078
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:31.840
Have you dot com? We kind
of have you on this one bleacher report.

1079
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.600
I don't know how serious you guys
look at those websites on a Bleach

1080
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:40.319
report. I'm not gonna say anything
actually either way. Yeah, let's start.

1081
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.520
Let's start with this. That was
close. Two guys in the possible

1082
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:50.880
trade market, eah trade trade Joey
Bosa in a sound back, a sound

1083
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:55.239
of back officially approved to it to
uh go out and find a trade that

1084
01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:58.399
suits him. And then Joey Bosa. If you guys don't know the LA

1085
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:01.760
Chargers over forty five millions cast base, So I gotta make something shake first

1086
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.479
and foremost, Winny, which one
of these guys would you rather Hassan Reddick

1087
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:11.279
hands down ten times out of ten. Joey Bosa first of all, very

1088
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:17.600
questionable behavior. Yeah, and I'll
say beliefs. He's known for some weird

1089
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.119
stuff. I don't know if it's
true or not, so I'm not gonna

1090
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:26.359
throw too much dirt on his name
or Kanye definitely seems and we've seen him

1091
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:29.159
like trying to fight fans outside of
the stadium. Shit, guys. That

1092
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:32.880
just seems like a dick in general. And he misses ten games a year,

1093
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.680
but for the past like eight years, Like I want to look,

1094
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:41.359
the last time he played a full
season was twenty twenty one, and he's

1095
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:44.640
only played a full season three times
in his NFL career. He has played

1096
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.920
under ten games more times than he
has played a full season. So I'm

1097
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:54.680
good on Joey Bosa. Hassan Reddick, on the other hand, much better

1098
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:59.079
fit. I think next to Hutchinson. We talked about pairing up a speed

1099
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.640
rusher with eight and h. How
well that works when you get a James

1100
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:05.840
Hudge or James Houston on the other
side, or a Hassan Reddick who's a

1101
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:11.479
six to one to two hundred and
forty forty pound speed rusher forty found was

1102
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.239
gonna say forty five, but he's
two forty. This is a guy who's

1103
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:19.039
played that sixteen games every year of
his career. This is a guy who

1104
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:25.079
in his last three seasons, last
four seasons, has had eleven plus sacks

1105
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.960
every year, twelve and a half, eleven sixteen, twelve and a half.

1106
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.359
This is a guy or sorry,
twelve and a half eleven, sixteen

1107
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:35.560
eleven. This is a guy you
signed. This is a guy you I

1108
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:40.000
would make a move for. I
would. I would definitely take Hassan Reddick

1109
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:45.920
over Joey Bosa because of the fit
on the seam, the Super Bowl experience,

1110
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:54.800
and the availability throughout their careers.
Nicholas, this isn't even a question

1111
01:14:55.079 --> 01:15:00.560
in my mind at Joey Bosa is
not a dang guy. Yeah, you

1112
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:09.199
think I'm going Josie Joe here,
Josie, she's on a VA. No.

1113
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.800
No, I mean you're going to
son Reddit here. It's the perfect

1114
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:16.840
matchup for guy to pair with Hayden
Hutchinson. You know Brad Holmes loves his

1115
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:23.000
pairing, but fifteen and a half
sacks fifty one TfL's thirteen forced fumbles in

1116
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:26.680
the last four years. It is
the perfect pairing and the thing you could

1117
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.159
do with this contract if you do
get him. I don't know how low

1118
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:34.000
they're willing to sell on a guy
that has this much production, but you

1119
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:38.720
could feed him high money for the
next like three years before you have to

1120
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:42.800
get a deal done with Hutchinson.
So he comes off the books, then

1121
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.079
you give the money back to Hutchinson
before the extension gets done there. So

1122
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:49.079
I think it it turned out perfect
for the next few years here while he's

1123
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:54.800
still putting up this kind of production. Yeah, I believe Joey Bosa and

1124
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:58.359
is Here's here's what it is.
If you're training for a son Reddick,

1125
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:01.880
you're gonna have to give him deal, a big fat deal. Yeah,

1126
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:05.079
And we're gonna have to give him
that big fat d He's just gonna have

1127
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:09.359
to happen his contract year. If
you got him this year. If I'm

1128
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:12.840
not mistaken it it'd be if it's
pre June. I was looking at over

1129
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.159
the cap it was like one million. It was something crazy, whereas if

1130
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.479
you get Joey, he's fourteen million
next year, the following year thirty two,

1131
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.600
maybe like restructure something. But I
also think you're probably giving up less

1132
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:28.119
if you're acquiring Joey versus son Reddick. I don't I can't say around the

1133
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:32.439
same because of Redicks. I'm talking
about trade value wise. Yeah, I

1134
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.680
think it's so d probably worth a
little bit more than Joy. It's going

1135
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.800
to be too crazy because the son
Reddics only a one year deal. Well,

1136
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:43.000
Joey's only played fourteen games the past
two years. Yeah, so it's

1137
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.560
like, do you want me to
give up a high trade value for guys?

1138
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:47.399
And he's coming up a foot spring
too, not mistaken you want to

1139
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:53.359
give a high trade and like any
slamming helmets on sids in the parking lot.

1140
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:57.600
Yeah, he's got a weird mustache. His ex him off the list.

1141
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:00.319
To be honest with you, I
don't think Joey's gonna become a would

1142
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.319
be. I'd be surprised if he
did. I'm not necessarily opposed against it.

1143
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:08.439
Like when healthy, obviously the dude
was a beast. I think him

1144
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:10.079
and eight I don't. I mean, I don't care who you put next

1145
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:12.840
to eight, And I think either
the situation will pay well for us.

1146
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:15.880
But I think how sono Redic it
probably is the better fit. I think

1147
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:17.800
a Sogna Redk is the one that
would make more sense if you're going to

1148
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:21.960
go out there and acquire like a
high value free agent defensive ends, acquiring

1149
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:25.640
a son of Redic is essentially doing
the same thing. And maybe that the

1150
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:28.560
trade value did goes a little bit
down just because like he's only on that

1151
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:30.880
one year deal and you can't guarantee
he's gonna be sign with you, but

1152
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:32.159
he's still like a premier Edge rushier
than the day. They're both twenty nine

1153
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:35.000
years old. But as you said, it spending four straight years with double

1154
01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:40.640
digit sack seasons. It was multiple
teams, multiple different schemes like a son

1155
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:42.840
of Redic is the one for me, for being honest with you, schemes,

1156
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:46.319
teams and dreams like you bring that
guy here man, and again we've

1157
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.760
seen the fit work. I understand
what you're saying. Like anybody obvious,

1158
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:54.560
Aid Hudgson is gonna is gonna have
a good day. But who we've seen

1159
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:58.439
have the most success opposite Eighten Hudginson
are the speed Rush guys. It is

1160
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:00.319
a Bruce Servan, It is a
Jameson to College. Yeah, it isn't

1161
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:04.960
a yeah a job o like you
you bring him in here, Yeah,

1162
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:10.000
you might have to pay him front
load his contract for two years. Say

1163
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:12.319
hey, hey, a son,
you're trying to win a super Bowl or

1164
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:15.720
you're trying to get paid right now, like you come here for a year

1165
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:17.039
or two. Yeah, and you
do what you did in Philly. You

1166
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:20.119
can win a super Bowl and then
you can go get your contract. Yeah,

1167
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:25.039
and that is that means that should
mean something to me, man,

1168
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:29.319
Like that means something to players when
you say, hey, we were a

1169
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.399
has Son Reddick away from playing in
the super Bowl this year. That's something

1170
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.119
that will peak the interest of a
guy like that. And I mean and

1171
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:40.079
I truly believe that too. Like
we asked the question earlier, like you

1172
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.439
know, did your Liones that what
it takes to win that game last night?

1173
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:44.760
Right now? I don't know,
but if you quite a Son Reddick,

1174
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:46.560
uh, listen to Sono reck is
a guy who kicked Rock Party out

1175
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.800
of last year's conference championship beat Like, give me him all day, especially

1176
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.000
if you have eight Hunts on the
opposite side of it. For sure seeing

1177
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:56.800
double teams and le migneil doing what
he's doing and maybe actually developmental piece into

1178
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.880
Rodick Martin at the Terrell Williams coming
in as defensive line coach, Like,

1179
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:01.079
sign me up for that all day. And I know Age you likes to

1180
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.600
get a little freaky sometimes dropping some
some defensive backs back and coverage. I'm

1181
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:08.039
not saying the sod Rex the best
at it, but I know he's tried

1182
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.159
it. He's done it multiple times
throughout his career. Give me that all

1183
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.439
day, the son Rex the piece
I want. Now, the question is

1184
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:17.279
what's the asking price? You're comfortable
with a trade trade value was yeah,

1185
01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:23.600
because you're not gonna be only team
like gunning for and for sure trading.

1186
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:27.279
That's why they drafted freaking Nolan Smith
from the Georgia Buldoffs, essentially the same

1187
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.880
dude. Fourth, Well, hope
we could be the same Charles Harris and

1188
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:36.079
a fourth, Charles, you think
you young? Chase Young went for a

1189
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:41.479
third? You got to pay him
a deal to an additional third the last

1190
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:46.319
third, and then in the draft
Brox listen Chase Young with sack last night

1191
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:48.159
to while you people trying to respect
him on the way, and he said

1192
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:54.079
for second, Yeah, the time
was kind of a you know, first

1193
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:59.880
the way, there's no way you
believe that a fourth round pick for a

1194
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.359
ready I'll go for a third.
I don't think that's happening, brother,

1195
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:08.000
second rounder. I think at the
least you're looking at you don't think them

1196
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:12.600
had the team that is acquiring him
having to pay him a deal is affecting

1197
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:15.600
his draft stock at all. If
he was already on a four year contract,

1198
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:16.960
then yeah, it would be a
first round pick, but he's not.

1199
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:20.239
You have to not only trade for
him, but then pay him.

1200
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:24.239
That is something the factors in.
I don't know, Bro, I think

1201
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.399
you're wilding over there. What did
Jayalen Ramsey go for? I mean,

1202
01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.399
that's different position. He's also like
freaking the thirty some years old. We

1203
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:32.800
end up going for a third round
pick. If I'm not mistaken, it

1204
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.880
was the third Yeah, yeah,
I think it was a third. He's

1205
01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:39.960
twenty nine years old. Jayleen Ramsey
is twenty nine years is not going for

1206
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:45.840
a fourth round pick. I will
what JB do the double grizzy. I

1207
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.800
will double grizzy, doubleshit Boying Boying, no axle grease, no axle grease.

1208
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:54.600
If he went for elble barrow outside
outside of that's crazy, you had

1209
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:59.319
that thing right outside of like injury
happening. I would Yeah, I'll double

1210
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.039
sha boy Boying, Oh actual green
he goes for a fourth roumping all right,

1211
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.399
four straight season doubled like the just
sas brother is Jalen Ramsey not one

1212
01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:09.920
of the best cornerbacks in the NFL
for different systems. Not what he was,

1213
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.840
No, not when he's acquired not. When he was traded, he

1214
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:15.920
wasn't still one of the best cornerbacks
in the NFL. He's definitely on that.

1215
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.840
He was on the decline for sure. He looked pretty good in Miami.

1216
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:23.920
So if he's oh, twenty one
million next year, fellas in twenty

1217
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:27.520
twenty four, what are you extending
him for? If you're giving up,

1218
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.800
say a second rounder to get him, are you not resigning him after the

1219
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.039
twenty twenty four season and showing I
mean, I'm definitely I think the if

1220
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:36.880
you get up the second round of
your tensions is to resign him. Yeah,

1221
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:42.039
That's why I said, like,
can you pull up what Montest Sweat

1222
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:45.159
signed for? Could you do that
on over the cap? She's got probably

1223
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:48.279
something similar to that. If you
be honest with you, how old is

1224
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:51.520
Montest Sweat? Actually too, and
by the way, too, I wouldn't

1225
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:56.439
have an issue with it if that's
what Brad decided to do. Like,

1226
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:59.279
I think we're all kind of like, I don't think it's something the necessarily

1227
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:01.319
do if I'm being honest with you, But if Brad did it, I'm

1228
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:06.680
not tripping Sweat or eighty four years
eighty nine million, four years eight nine

1229
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:10.439
million was a breakdown ninety eight,
sorry, ninety eight. So what's that

1230
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:12.800
like? Twenty five million a year? Basic, twenty five million a year.

1231
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.279
Yeah, you got Jared Gobb's contract
coming up to you have to resign.

1232
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:19.439
I'm Arol Saint Brown, possibly as
soon as this year. I don't

1233
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:23.640
know. That's tough, boys,
what There's no way I don't think this

1234
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.000
happens. If I'm being honest with
you, I've been you know, some

1235
01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:30.079
people told me it's been talked about, and then obviously it's a lot of

1236
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.439
pieces that the fall in mind for
it to happen. But I just just

1237
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.800
doesn't look like a Brad Holmes move
at all in my opinion. You the

1238
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:40.880
exact opposite that from what came out
of his press conference. Yeah, it

1239
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:44.439
just has to. I mean,
this is the exactly the question man,

1240
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.840
exact type of guy that I'm looking
for, blue chip player on the defense

1241
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:53.520
that can greek havoc on a quarterback. I mean thirteen forced fumbles in the

1242
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:57.079
last four years. Yeah, that's
just causing turnovers. I mean, the

1243
01:22:57.159 --> 01:23:00.960
dude's a problem. Anytime you've seen
Philly play the last two years, he's

1244
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.039
been an absolute dog on the defensive
line and to pair that with Hutchinson.

1245
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:08.960
I just think we can cause so
many turnovers in the back end. It's

1246
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.239
just can you do it for or
can you get a contract done for the

1247
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:16.439
next two years so you're still able
to sign guys obviously like Hutchinson sewell,

1248
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.000
your blue check guys that you are
the ones that brought in that change this

1249
01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:24.319
culture. You're just trying to be
in the middle of it. So today,

1250
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:28.319
which player do would you rather the
Lions trade for Hasan Reddick or Joey

1251
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:30.680
Bosa. And then at the end
of it, I don't think they're gonna

1252
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.520
make this move instead of so Reddick. Yeah, but I said, end

1253
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.199
of the day, I don't think
it's a Now, I don't think so

1254
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:41.000
this is this is the move that
a team that is forth to win the

1255
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:44.199
end of the Super Bowl next year
in odds, this is a move that

1256
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:47.079
they make, Like we have to
start seriously looking like at these players and

1257
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:51.039
having these serious conversations because we're a
part of that elite in the NFL that

1258
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.520
makes these moves. Now, it
just depends we've never been here, so

1259
01:23:55.680 --> 01:24:00.359
we were not used to it.
And would the Eagles do it for Lions?

1260
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.800
Because the Eagles are still trying to
win a Super Bowl, so they

1261
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:06.760
give a son riding to the Lions, who are favorite in the NFC.

1262
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:11.199
Yeah, that's a great point.
We did it for them. Yeah,

1263
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:15.239
darry Slay, Swift, oh Swift, Swift and yeah but darry Slay,

1264
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:19.880
we weren't a contender back then.
Yeah, I mean we just handed them

1265
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:24.960
Swift. I would like to have
a player of a Son's caliber, but

1266
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:30.119
I just it's just not a Brad
Holmes. I can't think he's gonna trade

1267
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:35.680
or sign anybody a big value.
No, not really, if he did.

1268
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:40.399
I mean, Danial Hunter's kind of
growing on me because I'm seeing the

1269
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.800
contracts. I think the last one
I saw was like a three years,

1270
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.039
sixty seven million, which I don't
even know what that breaks down to.

1271
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:51.479
Your better math than me twenty twenty
two. Like, I'd be cool with

1272
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:55.199
that, but I didn't even know
if that's going to happen. I really

1273
01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:59.880
if the way Brad Holmes has been
playing free agency and its acquisitions in gen

1274
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.479
outside of the draft, it's been
like those guys and those one to two

1275
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.880
year proven deals, and I think
that's where Bradham's going to go. I

1276
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:09.680
think Bryce Hoffis guy you look towards
because he had that one year of production,

1277
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.359
so you take gamble on him.
Okay, Hey, Bryce will give

1278
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.199
you two years. I don't want
to anymore. Man, I don't want

1279
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:18.279
to gamble anymore either, man gambling
winning the whole damn thing. There's too

1280
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:23.760
much stock up. I'm with you
too. I feel like if you sign

1281
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.560
your big guys though, that you
need to with a Sewell Saint Brown.

1282
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.640
I mean, those are the two
guys are to do up, maybe a

1283
01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.520
Lean, but those won't effect this
those won't affect next year's cat. They're

1284
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:36.600
all on contracts already. So then
I am willing to gamble personally. Yeah.

1285
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.159
Well, I don't want to get
no. I gamble. I gamble

1286
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:43.960
with good players. I don't want
to gamble with somebody one year. Yeah

1287
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:47.159
yeah, like one year of product
production. Yeah, I gotcha. I

1288
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.000
said it last week too. I
flip flopped on it throughut the show because

1289
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.000
I was kind of thinking it out
and I was also kind of drunk.

1290
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.800
But when I listened to him last
week, I bringing it like depth,

1291
01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:00.439
like he wants depth. He's thinking
about like winning in January stead up like

1292
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:02.760
pair and pairs. Yeah, we
want to pair those things too, but

1293
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:06.800
we're looking to win in January.
That's pretty good. That was pretty good.

1294
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:10.279
But so I think he's gonna like
again. I think it's ended up

1295
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:14.159
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Chris Nicholas call offsh that light boy
like its Trry Swift of a Super

1318
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:19.760
Bowl win with no arch in the
back. As promised, we're talking some

1319
01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:26.560
pistons off seasons here, boys,
we got it's gotta be discussed. And

1320
01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:30.960
we're also gonna talk some red wings. We're in Jack Labrador for which ones

1321
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:44.119
first? On pistons Jack labor Door, Let's go today. Christopher Fred of

1322
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:47.800
Detroit is a throwing one with the
better genie finisher. My men, you's

1323
01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:53.600
a real dew fetty with the lefty
feeder, with the Barretta. This man

1324
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:56.840
was doing everything. Man, the
way he was, the way he was

1325
01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:00.640
attacking the basket off clothes outs,
the way he was playing good d he

1326
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:04.199
was running in transition very smoothly and
keeping up with this very athletic team.

1327
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:08.199
Like with Jay n Ivy is pushing
the ball up the court, you know,

1328
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.840
he was running with it. So
he looks like a very good addition.

1329
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.920
I'm really excited to see what Quinn
Grimes says for this team. Like

1330
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.760
Quinn Grimes is the is the guy
was the highest on coming in. And

1331
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:25.439
if Fedicini is even better than Grimes
in contributing, then this was a very

1332
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.439
good trade deadline for the Pistons because
they really they really just netted one second

1333
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:33.199
round pick, shifted some players around, and New York is in shambles.

1334
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:35.439
I don't know if you guys have
seen New York Twitter, but they are

1335
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:41.760
just in shambles right now. They
hate Boyan, and yeah, I know

1336
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.479
they'll they'll they'll calm down because they'll
realize that, you know, Bogie will

1337
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:47.640
have that game where he shoots seven
to eleven from three, especially with all

1338
01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:50.640
their injuries, and they'll they'll be
fine about it, but this pisses team

1339
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:56.479
in. It's a competent basketball team. You no longer have eight guys that

1340
01:29:56.680 --> 01:30:00.960
only do one thing and they only
do it pretty decently. You now have

1341
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:04.880
everybody that can play both sides of
the ball. You saw a lot of

1342
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:09.119
switchability in that Clippers game. That
game was so impressive. I know they

1343
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:13.000
lost that game, I know they
blew a big lead, but you look

1344
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:17.920
at this team and you look at
this team and they're switchable, like when

1345
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:23.119
Kawhi was attacking, when Kawhi was
attacking the screens. The Clippers are the

1346
01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:26.760
most ISO heavy team, and that
was something that the Pistons struggled with.

1347
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:30.880
They struggled with perimeter isolation defense,
and they struggled with the pick and roll,

1348
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:33.960
and those were two things that they
looked a lot better at already.

1349
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:39.840
Now you give this team thirty games
plus an offseason to get acquainted with each

1350
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:43.239
other, to learn eachar's tendencies,
to learn how to work with Duran and

1351
01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:47.000
everything. Like man, this team
has just been incredible, incredible to watch,

1352
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:49.640
and this is what I had talked
about all year. They're going to

1353
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:53.079
get better as the year goes on. That's what happens with young teams.

1354
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:57.680
But also bringing in these new additions, they look good so far. Yeah,

1355
01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:02.520
the defensive and their bench rotation looks
a lot better already. These,

1356
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:06.079
like you said, these are all
long, tall defender, rangy guys that

1357
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:10.119
can go out there. They can
play defense on the perimeter and they make

1358
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:15.319
opponents think twice before just easy buckets
in the wane like boyon Elec Burks,

1359
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:17.600
those guys were traffic cones. Now
you got guys that can actually play some

1360
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:21.319
defense. You still got James Wiseman
and his nappy ass hair getting a bunch

1361
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:27.479
of minutes for some reason. But
I think this new look Pistons team is

1362
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:31.079
more fun to watch. The spacing
on offense is a lot better. Like

1363
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:35.640
Chris talked about, the switch ability
on defense makes them a lot tougher on

1364
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:41.319
opposing teams. So I'm happy.
I'm happy with what I saw so far,

1365
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:45.680
and that's without arguably having the biggest
piece they traded for, the best

1366
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:47.479
piece they traded for. Play a
game yet in Quinn Grimes, So when

1367
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:50.600
he goes out there, that's another
guy who can shoot, he can defend,

1368
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:54.399
he can switch, and he can
do a lot of different things.

1369
01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:58.880
So I was excited seeing that it
looked like Cade, Sasser and Ivy were

1370
01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:01.520
a lot more comfortable working in isolation. When you have guys on the perimeter,

1371
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.279
they can shoot threes. Guys on
the perimeter that you can kick the

1372
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:08.000
ball out too. Not only can
they shoot, but they can pull it

1373
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:09.960
down. They can get in the
lane if they really have to. So

1374
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:13.119
the new Pistons they looked better.
They're more fun to watch, and they

1375
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.560
were playing damn good basketball. I
haven't seen them play defense like they did

1376
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:19.680
against the Clippers in like ten years. Yeah, it was you four quatching.

1377
01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:23.520
They were up by twelve for the
majority of that game. They kinds.

1378
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:25.640
I mean, I don't know what
happened for them to lose it.

1379
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:30.039
They just were making shots. Yeah, we're making shots. What happens when

1380
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.359
you have three superstars on the other
team and you have not on your team.

1381
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:35.760
As much as I like like the
new look Pistons, I'm still not

1382
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:39.680
a fan of like that all bench
line up that Manzi keeps going out there

1383
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:44.000
like a stagger. You guys stagger, kids, stagger Ivy, No,

1384
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:46.479
you guys do to make sure like
you're you're not falling short the second half

1385
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:49.039
those games because you're already young.
It's kind of fee like they're already like

1386
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:53.600
the inexperience in itself kind of like
gives them a short handle those comeback situations

1387
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.560
or like you know, going up
against the rally. But the offense is

1388
01:32:56.640 --> 01:33:00.159
so much more fluent. I think
there's so much more athletic and want to

1389
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:03.479
on defense. The only concern is
like, what's just looking like when Stuke

1390
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:05.800
comes back? But my solution to
it and obviously not the coach, and

1391
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:09.199
I don't you know, I'm not
in the coaches here to make the decision

1392
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:12.119
make him the backup five at that
point, because I think the offense the

1393
01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:17.000
way that looked without him in there, clogging sit up for the G for

1394
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:19.920
the G it was. It was
beautiful, man. And Ivy has been

1395
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.439
just playing out of his mind as
of late. He's been bawing and one

1396
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:29.279
of the longest streaks in NBA history
without missing the three and that was and

1397
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:30.880
that was broken in the first quarter
of the Clippers game. It was the

1398
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.359
longest, I believe in Piston,
Yeah, twelve in a row, twelve

1399
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:39.319
in a row, and it has
a little step back to little little bitch

1400
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.359
this she was nasty, And this
team just has so much. That's why

1401
01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:45.840
I like these young guys is because
you know, yeah, they are all

1402
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:50.079
different, but they bring something.
They bring something like Ivy when he gets

1403
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:55.359
a rebound, he can just go
coast to coast and that's just an element,

1404
01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.680
that's just an added possession. Then
you have kid that can that can

1405
01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:00.680
you know, bring the ball up, work the icell, pick and roll

1406
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:05.159
and mismatch hunt like, you have
all these different ways to score. Duran's

1407
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:10.880
offensive leap like, he's been way
better statistically at finishing around the rim.

1408
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:15.079
He's been way more efficient with his
ball handling, with his passing, Like,

1409
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:18.840
all of these players are taking strides, and it's no coincidence that it's

1410
01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:24.520
aligning with a roster that's more fit
for modern basketball today. So this is

1411
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:29.119
this is as excited as I am. This is an indictment on Troy Weaver

1412
01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:31.880
and the front office that they didn't
do this earlier, because this right here

1413
01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.880
looks like a team that could be
competing for the play in obviously with how

1414
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:42.319
far beyond it behind the eight ball
they're not. But this roster opening day,

1415
01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:45.560
Yeah, this looks like a playing
roster. And I sent a graphic

1416
01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:47.720
on It's all right if you don't
have it, Chris, because I did

1417
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:53.880
just send it last segment, but
I got Kevin O'Connell put a list out

1418
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:59.079
there of the top ten isolation scorers
in the NBA per Metrics, and Jade

1419
01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:01.880
and Ivy was number five on that
list. J Cuddy so far this year

1420
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:05.600
has been a top five isolation scorer
in the NBA. And when you put

1421
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:10.560
a guy like that out there who
can get past anybody, he's been stroking

1422
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:15.279
that thing pause from three, and
you put shooters around him. You put

1423
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.359
Feuccini out there, you put sas
So, you put Kid, you put

1424
01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:23.760
Grimes, you put these guys who
can knock down threes and a freak athlete

1425
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:27.880
lob threat and Jalen Durham down in
the middle. That makes it that much

1426
01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:32.359
better. That is that James Harden
esque offense we saw in Houston when they

1427
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:35.359
were going out there and they're giving
teams one hundred and forty five points a

1428
01:35:35.479 --> 01:35:40.720
night because James Harden was running ISO, he had a lob threat and click

1429
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.640
Capella and shooters everywhere else, So
Jade and Ivy can do that. He

1430
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:46.680
can run that type of offense for
the Pistons. Caid can do the same.

1431
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:51.479
And the difference between this team and
those teams is this team is playing

1432
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:55.560
defense so far. And yeah,
here are the top five isolation scorers.

1433
01:35:55.800 --> 01:36:00.439
They're ranked by points per ISO minimum
of sixty possessions. Jaye and Ivy number

1434
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:04.640
five on that list. Listen to
the names. He's behind Kawhi Leonard de

1435
01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:09.920
Jontay Murray who's having a fantastic gear
shake, Gilges Alexander who's a top three

1436
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.760
scorer in the NBA, and Steph
Curry, and then Jade and Ivy's number

1437
01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:18.359
five and Terse Haliburton and Nikola Jokic
probably two of the top five MVP voters

1438
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:25.199
so far. Like, this is
a fantastic list to be on, and

1439
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:28.239
it's extremely impressive to see what he
can do. And like I said,

1440
01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:31.319
they are opening the floor up for
him. They're opening this spacing up for

1441
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:36.600
more isolation plays with guys like Kid
Cunningham, Jade and Ivy and Marcus Sasser

1442
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:39.359
at the ball in their hands.
Yeah, if you just share that flow

1443
01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:43.960
with Caden in Ivy you can't have
guys clogging it up space. There was

1444
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:45.720
there was two. I don't know
if you didn't read that part, but

1445
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:49.439
at the bottom it did say Kid
ranked forty six out of sixtieth in the

1446
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:54.159
players that qualify. Yeah, that's
it. That's somebody I really expect to

1447
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:59.960
jump with this, because teams were
all season. When you have Killian Hayes

1448
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:03.520
and Nasara Thompson out there, you're
sending three people, four people. In

1449
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:08.840
the case of Duran as well,
you're sending three four defenders at Kid and

1450
01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:13.479
he was getting tough look after tough
look. So this is something that's really

1451
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.000
going to help Kate Cunningham. We're
seeing Ivy thrive in it. But I've

1452
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:20.039
always had confidence in Ivy's ability to
ISO score, and I think Caid's an

1453
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:27.720
even better score than Ivy, especially
especially as as a in the mid range

1454
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:30.840
game. So I think that this
is something that you're gonna see Kid really

1455
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:34.720
jump up. And if Ivy maintains
this level and you have two very good

1456
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:42.399
isolations scores, plus you have what
the intangibles that Sar offer, that Duran

1457
01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:46.720
offer, and the shooting and the
bench, like this is a this is

1458
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:49.840
a team, man and Sasser is
one of the top ten shooters in the

1459
01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:56.359
NBA right now from three point.
Like, this team is really really good

1460
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:00.119
with a lot of young talent.
That's very promising. There's a reason that

1461
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.199
despite the twenty eight game losing streak, guys like Jason Tatum, Kevin Durant,

1462
01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:06.800
the real ball knowers in the NBA
are saying, I don't know how

1463
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:11.479
this team is losing that many games. This team is good. How many

1464
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:15.279
times do we hear Paul George talk
about kid's got a bright future, Westbrook

1465
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:17.920
saying Ivy's got a bright future.
People saying Durren could be the best center

1466
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.960
in the league. Like all the
players around the NBA are very high on

1467
01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:26.600
these guys. They have a lot
of young talent, and now they're finally

1468
01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:30.119
putting a roster around it that allows
them to thrive and gigglestick. No,

1469
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:34.119
the Pistons also a funny name.
The Pistons did not become a contender overnight,

1470
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:40.000
but they revamped their bench rotation and
their supporting cast of guys who can

1471
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:42.800
play defense, who can switch on
defense, and who can shoot the ball,

1472
01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:45.399
which is, like Chris mentioned,
it a lot better for modern basketball

1473
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:51.199
Yeah, we've been waiting all season
for the team to be at least watchable,

1474
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:55.119
and now the last three games it's
been fun. You know, it's

1475
01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:59.119
actually I've enjoyed watching these games and
seen the growth. Feels like night and

1476
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:01.239
day. But the biggest thing for
me, I didn't even know that stat

1477
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:05.239
on Ivy was just strictly eye tested
me. And even just in these last

1478
01:39:05.279 --> 01:39:10.159
couple of games, it looks like
Caid's gotten more open looks because of Ivy

1479
01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:14.279
driving and I think that needs to
keep up and this game and then when

1480
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:18.960
we talk about Fed, he's got
sneaky athletics, honestly, and that's what

1481
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:24.560
we needed because he's yes, because
he's pumped, baking off the rip,

1482
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.520
talking people like this is what we
needed, a little spark from the bench

1483
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.319
on this team. I wasn't too
high on the guy. I didn't know

1484
01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.119
much. I thought he was just
a straight shooter. I wasn't hating.

1485
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:40.520
It was a little bit. I
didn't say this guy sucks, said I

1486
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:45.279
said this guy, I said,
this guy can shoot from three. But

1487
01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:56.000
yeah, I am excited Grin is
gonna bring. I'm excited. My question

1488
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:59.840
for you guys, when Grimes Grimes
comes back. Do you think he's starting?

1489
01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:03.520
I think so at the three I
do. And then with shooting around,

1490
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:08.439
who's playing the four here? I
think Ferduccini plays four. I wouldn't

1491
01:40:08.439 --> 01:40:11.119
mind that at all because then you
have Caden. I think it would be

1492
01:40:12.439 --> 01:40:15.199
Fini and Duran. I think that
would be your best starting like that,

1493
01:40:15.399 --> 01:40:26.279
and then have Sasser a sore and
a four Fournier come off, except in

1494
01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:30.680
the second half he started breakings,
shake mill muscala Is. The Scot's got

1495
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:35.920
to be Muscola could started, Yeah, Mussola could start, and then you

1496
01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:43.319
could have come off the bench with
the bench back. But oh no is

1497
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.439
they got a lot of long guys
who could play defensive, shoot, So

1498
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.640
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Hey, what up those your boys
shine down with the heavyweights of place

1521
01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:51.880
to be, little bitch, I'm
gonna take my time. I'm gonna take

1522
01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:58.800
my time, can you, Big
Sean? No, not gonna try it.

1523
01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:01.760
Just doesn't I know to rap like
him, But I don't know if

1524
01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:05.920
I can just talk like him.
I go as your boy shine don with

1525
01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:15.319
the heavyweights. It sounds just like
you do you do it? Just do

1526
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:20.000
it again, a little bitch.
That's that y'all out those your boy Big

1527
01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:24.680
Sean with Wi were heavyweights. Make
sure you smash that light buying little bitch.

1528
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:31.920
That's pretty good. That's not bad, a little bitch, little bitch,

1529
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:36.600
because you got one. Definitely not. Do you guys have a go

1530
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:42.039
to that you can impersonate the rapper? Wise? No, but don't.

1531
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:46.439
I don't think so. Christopher Walking, What I'm gonna do? The real

1532
01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:51.520
deal? Speaking of the real deal, the Detroit Red Wings. But honestly,

1533
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:56.319
the Detroit Red Wings are the real
deal. They are the team this

1534
01:43:56.600 --> 01:44:00.279
year that is going to make the
playoffs. Outside of the Lions. They

1535
01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:03.840
they are the hope for Detroit to
get some playoff games in LCA, and

1536
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.800
right now they're in that position.
Right now, they're in that position.

1537
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:11.640
They are in the playoffs. If
it started right now, the Red Wings

1538
01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:14.880
would make it. So I love
that so far. They got a big

1539
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.159
win, big win versus the Canucks
at home where they came back from three

1540
01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:23.000
to one in the third period to
win by a shootout I'm sorry, a

1541
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:27.600
penalty shot in overtime by Jake Wallman. It was a great game to brink

1542
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.239
it drop the gloves again and they
ended up coming back. Like I said,

1543
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:36.840
they scored two in the third period
and then I mean he fought a

1544
01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:42.640
big guy. You know, you
didn't get it was just that everybody started

1545
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:50.239
getting a little chippy. Huh the
Ottawa what about the Lake goal? Oh,

1546
01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:54.760
we'll talk about that. We're talking
about the Red Wings because the Red

1547
01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:57.439
Wings are ready to go. The
Red Wings are ready to make this playoffs.

1548
01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.840
And Steve Eisman is going to be
a buyer. Steve Eiserman is gonna

1549
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:05.600
buy the deadline what and I think
he's gonna poach another player off the Ottawa

1550
01:45:05.680 --> 01:45:11.720
senator. I think Chickeren is gonna
be a Red Wing for the playoff push.

1551
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:14.920
I think they're gonna go out there, bring in chicken have him be

1552
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:17.600
there one of their top four defenders. You're probably gonna have to give up

1553
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:23.000
Johnny Bergers and somebody else as a
prospect to get him. But Ottawa likes

1554
01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:26.119
Johnny Bergers a lot, and Chickrin
has made it known that he wants to

1555
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:28.399
get out of there. So if
you bring in a guy like that to

1556
01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:32.039
sure up that first four defense,
you have Lion playing very well and this

1557
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:38.359
offense clicking. Patrick Kin's coming back. He is lifted off ir I expect

1558
01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:40.720
this Red Wings team to make the
playoffs, and I expect him to make

1559
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:43.239
some noise in the playoffs. I
expect him to win a couple of games,

1560
01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:45.520
even a series in the playoffs because
this is a tough, tough,

1561
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.720
scrappy team with great, great offense. They have one of the best power

1562
01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:53.600
players in the NHL, and now
they've got a goalie who's standing on his

1563
01:45:53.760 --> 01:45:57.560
fucking head most Knights. So you
can if you can go out there and

1564
01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:01.560
get Chickern bring him in here,
that will make you probably you could probably

1565
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:05.399
jump past Toronto in that playoff race
if you go out and get Chickering.

1566
01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:11.560
So you're going starting a tough,
tough West Coast road trip pretty soon.

1567
01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:14.479
But I'm excited to see what the
Red Lacks could do. Nick, how

1568
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:16.359
you feeling for them? Things coming
up? I'm feeling really good about the

1569
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:20.800
Red Wings. And one thing that
you said is I don't know if Steve

1570
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:25.680
is ready to buy all in,
but I certainly hope that he does,

1571
01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:30.960
because we have guys behind Bergran like
Casper, like Danilson Maser, elite talent

1572
01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:35.159
that we should be willing to give
up on a prospect. Now that's twenty

1573
01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:40.000
three, he should be NHL ready, but he cannot make this roster right

1574
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:42.640
now. Yeah, and I believe
that's why he's still down with the Grand

1575
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:46.359
Ripids or Grand Rapids Griffins. But
I would be willing to give up on

1576
01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:50.359
a guy like Bergran to bring in
elite talent on the d line because that's

1577
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:53.680
what this team needs. I would. I would as well. I think

1578
01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:55.760
you look at it, and like
you said, I think you got three

1579
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.840
forwards that are going to be better
than Bergran, with Maser, with Casper

1580
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:05.199
and with Polinka on top of that, you need that top four defenseman this

1581
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:09.279
year, and I would. I
thought it was going to be Simon Evanson

1582
01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.600
before the season started, but it's
not looking like it's going to be him.

1583
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.880
So if you can go out and
you can get a chicker in to

1584
01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.760
bring in here and pair him with
the gossip Spear, that would be a

1585
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:24.640
great pairing because obviously gossip Spear struggles
a little bit in the defensive zone,

1586
01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:28.800
Chickering can make up for that on
top of being a very good offensive defenseman

1587
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.079
as well. I think he would
be perfect. And the next year,

1588
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:34.119
when you're really trying to make the
push, you have Evanson, you bring

1589
01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:40.560
Evanson up, and that first four
of Mo Wallman, Chickrien and Evanson would

1590
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:43.920
be nasty. So I would be
willing to give up. I love Johnny

1591
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:45.880
Bergers, like I've talked about him
for the past couple years. I love

1592
01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:48.720
him. I love what he can
do. Every time he's brought up to

1593
01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:53.720
the wings, he makes something happen, like he scores goals. But you

1594
01:47:54.319 --> 01:47:58.720
got three guys behind him, I
think as forward prospects that have more potential.

1595
01:47:58.960 --> 01:48:01.159
I think this Polinka can it is
gonna be a fucking stud, actually

1596
01:48:01.239 --> 01:48:05.319
like a stud the Swede. Yeah, yeah, he's got one absolute stud.

1597
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:09.560
Him on the power play put him
at the UH put him at the

1598
01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:14.279
circle like one timers for days,
Like I mean, just a ridiculous comparison

1599
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:16.239
here, but we're talking hockey,
and I love it. He's like Ov

1600
01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:21.640
with the one timer. No,
seriously, his highlights are insane. But

1601
01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:28.359
the thing to me, we've been
absolutely dominating in January and into February with

1602
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:31.279
his first game here. But we
have a super tough five game stretch here.

1603
01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:35.840
Yeah, we got at Oilers,
at Canucks, at Calgary, at

1604
01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:41.119
Seattle and then hosting the Avalanche.
What do you think that the Red Wings

1605
01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:44.279
can go in this five game stretch? I think they need to at least

1606
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:48.159
get three three dubs here. Yeah, I think I'm gonna say, but

1607
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:50.680
if you're a playoff team, I
was gonna say, you need to get

1608
01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:54.520
six points at the very least.
You need to get six points. I

1609
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.880
would like eight, but you need
to get six at least, and I

1610
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.359
think they can. We saw them
do this last year. The same fucking

1611
01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:04.680
exact thing happened last year where they
had a West Coast Canada road trip.

1612
01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:08.479
They went out there and they swept
it. And if it wasn't for ras

1613
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:11.800
Musen getting hurt, that team was
flying high and they would have made a

1614
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:14.960
harder push into the playoffs. But
rass Musen got hurt. They lost a

1615
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:16.920
bunch of momentum after that road trip. I think they can do the same

1616
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:20.000
thing. I think they can do
the same thing. Like we've played hard

1617
01:49:20.039 --> 01:49:23.479
with Edmonton this year. I think
we can go out there and get a

1618
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.239
dub there. You need six points
on this road trip. At the very

1619
01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:28.439
least, they always play up and
be honest with you like that. I

1620
01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:31.840
think it's more of a season defining
I guess stretch not because like the caliber

1621
01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:34.880
teams are playing. But we saw
last year Stevie WiLAN they did too great.

1622
01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:39.039
I think it was against Boston and
Toronto. We we bombed against and

1623
01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:42.479
then he started with a deadline.
It was too straight at Ottawa. Yeah,

1624
01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:45.640
is that what it was. Yeah, we had two games Otawa.

1625
01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:47.920
We got bullied because the Ras got
I was just thinking Boston because that's where

1626
01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:51.520
the name got traded. But for
the same reason though, this is like

1627
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:56.600
four stretch. They got to prove
to Stevie they're worth buying into. Yeah,

1628
01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:59.319
exactly, I think that's a great
point. They're easy and one thing

1629
01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:03.680
I've been keeping my eye on all
season is where this playoff run or where

1630
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:09.119
their odds are to make the playoffs, And currently they are minus one fifty

1631
01:50:09.319 --> 01:50:12.760
to make the playoffs. That is
the highest it's been all season long,

1632
01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:15.880
and I mean, I just love
to see it. So hopefully they do

1633
01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:21.560
continue to prove that to Stevie that
they're worth buying into. And Blake Spenmo

1634
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:26.319
said, watch out for how do
you pronounce the name chickeran chickering chick?

1635
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:30.760
And Davers says this is only Evanson's
second year in Ahl Spencer, He's very

1636
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:33.159
far away from endanger being not the
being the guy. I didn't say that.

1637
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:35.359
I don't think he's going to be
the guy. I just said I

1638
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:39.560
thought he was going to be the
guy this year and he wasn't. But

1639
01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:43.720
I still think the kid's going to
be a stud man and going forward,

1640
01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:45.560
Yeah, it's it's going to be
a tough road trip. Man. If

1641
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:47.880
you can get six points out of
this road trip, that is a win.

1642
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:51.199
That is a win. And I
really think they can. I really

1643
01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:54.600
think they can with the way they're
playing, with the way Alex Lion is

1644
01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:58.039
playing in that fucking netman, he's
been playing lights out, wall of pillows

1645
01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:00.840
back there, so I'm excited to
see what they can do on the road.

1646
01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:03.600
They're gonna be playing some tough teams, but that's what you gotta do.

1647
01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:06.199
Like like, if you want to
be a playoff team, you gotta

1648
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:10.279
beat fucking playoff teams. And you're
going out there. You're gonna play three

1649
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:15.520
play for four playoff teams, and
the East is not slowing down for anybody,

1650
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.119
So you're gonna have to keep picking
up points because the East is loaded,

1651
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:20.920
and if you want to stay in
contention, you're gonna have to get

1652
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:25.920
those tough points on the road,
and I do think they can last question

1653
01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:29.840
to you here before we go to
break, do you guys approve of the

1654
01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:35.479
gritty celebration from the wall? Yeah, that's him that. I love the

1655
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:40.600
greed. I love Walman man kidding
scrapper, he's got a kid. Yeah,

1656
01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:44.000
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1684
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:04.039
I feel like he just sticks.
Steve Wilde says Spenmo claims to go

1685
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:08.960
to pie fit, but I've never
seen any video to corroborate. You gonna

1686
01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:14.479
ask Chris he posts on a story. Yeah, Chris every day, almost

1687
01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:20.840
every day. No, he's snaps
of the best. Yeah, all right,

1688
01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:26.680
let's see here. Mail bag.
Eduardo O'Neill draft question for you last

1689
01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:31.279
year, knowing that we what we
know. If six Anderson was there,

1690
01:54:31.359 --> 01:54:35.680
do you grab him over Gibbs.
And if you do that, who do

1691
01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:40.079
you grab at eighteen? Gibbs or
Laporta? Uh? Yeah, I would

1692
01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:44.479
grab Anderson over him. And I
don't know if Gibbs would be there at

1693
01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:45.840
eighteen. I don't know if either
of those guys would be there at eighteen,

1694
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:51.640
but if they both were, I
would take Gibbs. What was the

1695
01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:56.520
question, You're taking Anderson at six
if he's there? And then if so,

1696
01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:01.279
who would you take between Laporta and
Gibbs at eighteen in a redraft?

1697
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:06.479
Yeah? Tkon gives us six over
Will Anderson? Oh over well Anderson?

1698
01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:12.880
Yeah, probably too wise? Yeah
yeah, and then at eighteen Laportan gives

1699
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:17.840
are on the board. Who are
you taking a chain? All right?

1700
01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:23.039
Mail bag Spencer, How excited are
you that Michigan State beat Illinois? I'm

1701
01:55:23.079 --> 01:55:26.000
so pumped up about this team.
It's a great win. It's a great

1702
01:55:26.039 --> 01:55:31.079
win. It's aj Hogard masterclass.
Like this is what we expected Hoguard to

1703
01:55:31.159 --> 01:55:33.920
be doing this year. Maybe not
every night, going for twenty plus,

1704
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:36.600
but he looked confident. He was
making shots, he was getting to the

1705
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:40.760
lane using his big body. I
loved it. That is a big win.

1706
01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:44.479
That's a Q one win, like, I you needed that really to

1707
01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:46.760
cement now. I don't think they're
gonna be one of those you know,

1708
01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:51.079
first four games where it's the two
teams that win to go to the bracket.

1709
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:54.800
I don't think. I think they're
gonna have a cemented spot going forward,

1710
01:55:54.840 --> 01:55:57.600
whether they're a seven and a six, whatever they end up being.

1711
01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.319
I do think this is the game
that cemented them outside of that spot.

1712
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:03.279
So it was a great win.
It was fun to watch. They look

1713
01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:08.239
great. Uh the way fan Trey
Augustine and the Spartans won the duel and

1714
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:12.000
the d he's looking great too.
Yeah, Trey Augustine is the future for

1715
01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:16.359
Red Wings goaltenders. He is a
stud man, Spartan dog, hometown kid.

1716
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:20.000
Like, this kid is gonna be
great, great, He is gonna

1717
01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:24.520
vault Kosa. I think gold medal, Yeah, gold medal as well.

1718
01:56:25.479 --> 01:56:30.359
Kid's monster exact opposite and my guy
Edminson. Huh, can't be how much

1719
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.000
you hate my guy? Yeah?
I can't believe. I can't believe it.

1720
01:56:35.359 --> 01:56:41.920
Who would you rather have a jersey
of Evanson? A golf Evanson hockey

1721
01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:45.960
jerseys are just better? That is
fair. The Red Blinks have one of

1722
01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:49.000
the most iconic jerseys of all time, and hockey jerseys are my favorite jerseys

1723
01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:54.520
too, where Like normally I gotta
get a new Red Wings jersey, though

1724
01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:58.199
I still the only Red Wins jersey
I have is that dot su siderman all

1725
01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:00.479
day I would get Yeah, I
dude, I want to get a trade

1726
01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:03.640
august In Jersey. I want to
kind of wait out and get a tree

1727
01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:08.439
Augusteen Jersey. That's gonna be a
wow for love of being like a you

1728
01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:13.640
know guy from here, Woman's Larkin. Yeah, cop, we got a

1729
01:57:13.680 --> 01:57:16.920
lot of Michigan guys to brink it. Yeah, actually probably to bring it

1730
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:19.600
because he's like, I want to
go there. I want to go back.

1731
01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:23.640
I want to go back home.
No, same cheeks. I want

1732
01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:30.199
to go home. Today's arm day. Who is your free agent or draft

1733
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:39.560
pick gotta have for the Lions?
Yeah mm hmm. I mean I kind

1734
01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:43.359
of want to just roll with the
Neil hunter man. That would be the

1735
01:57:43.439 --> 01:57:47.960
best case scenario for me. I
think you could get him on a one

1736
01:57:48.039 --> 01:57:51.840
two year deal because he's gonna want
to win a Super Bowl. I really

1737
01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:58.720
do best free agent defensive tackles.
I mean, am I allowed to say

1738
01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.079
Christians or no? Because like not
like a realistic one. You can say

1739
01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:05.479
if you want to, if you
want, uh, Steve O baby mail

1740
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:09.760
bag Spencer rate on a scale of
one to ten on Easy's driving skills.

1741
01:58:09.880 --> 01:58:13.199
He's a good driver, yeah,
speaking good driver to ten. He hates

1742
01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:16.439
the roundabouts. I hate roundabouts,
man, they just sketched me out like

1743
01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:20.640
and there's like five of them in
a row. When we were going to

1744
01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:25.039
Terry's. That ship is pissing me
off. And then the easiest way home

1745
01:58:25.079 --> 01:58:28.199
on the way to Terry's it had
me getting on and getting off like six

1746
01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:32.640
different freeways, taking a bunch of
roundabouts. The way home was just one

1747
01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:36.399
street to six ninety six. I
was like, dude, what the fuck?

1748
01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:42.159
Why did it make me do all
this bullshit? What's the verdict in

1749
01:58:42.199 --> 01:58:45.239
Chris's job? Is you keeping it? Oh? What is it? One

1750
01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:50.279
fifties? Yeah? How likes like
you can see Chris's face tomorrow. We

1751
01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:57.079
are at one o five. Funny
Chris, dudude got twenty four hour like

1752
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:01.359
window or in fair enough. I
think that's just it for me. All

1753
01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:06.800
right, man, catch Chris and
the wrap please you to plug the time

1754
01:59:06.840 --> 01:59:13.279
and stuff like that. Easy's hitting
Skills that's awful. What do you mean

1755
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:17.600
by every Saturday baseball? Oh yeah, no, I got I got easier

1756
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:23.760
with a nasty change up with the
Punchki shruck them out. Is it past

1757
01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:28.920
fast Tuesday? Huh? Tomorrow tomorrow? I know they were doing some event

1758
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:32.960
down at Eastern Market or a couple
tomorrow. Yeah, I'm down, dude.

1759
01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:38.479
Are you working with Chris? Uh? Yeah, Punchki suck. I'm

1760
01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:45.039
putting that out there now. I
hate Creamfield anything pause except for shoddy with

1761
01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:55.239
a little but relax, relax,
trying to get the body's drag through the

1762
01:59:55.319 --> 02:00:00.680
streets. But Punchy suck because jelly
fill cream Field, no thanks, Custard

1763
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:03.439
sucks in general. Like I don't
like Boston cream dogs either. Yeah,

1764
02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:08.359
you're wow for that one. The
jelly one sucked the most. Cream I

1765
02:00:08.399 --> 02:00:11.520
would much rather have a jelly one
than a cream On discussing cream one,

1766
02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:15.039
I feel like not like just forgetting
its fat Tuesday, You're going to work

1767
02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:17.479
and like somebody picked off like a
dozen of them. I'm definitely smacking somebody

1768
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.479
when it's the best. When you
didn't eat breakfast, you see a doughnut.

1769
02:00:20.840 --> 02:00:26.920
Somebody hooked the boys up with the
punchki Cony's con Yeah, it's like

1770
02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:30.560
a punski cut in half with the
Cony dog in it. That's the most

1771
02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.239
detroit shit ever. That one sounds
a little gnarly. It'd be better than

1772
02:00:33.279 --> 02:00:39.199
a regular Cony review. Would you
do a punski beer? I saw a

1773
02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:45.279
Canoli filled punski. Now that would
be fucking good, dude, like the

1774
02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:49.680
filling of a Yeah, but that's
better. It's not like the it's a

1775
02:00:49.680 --> 02:00:53.800
different texture. What are we doing. It's a way different texture. What

1776
02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:59.000
are we doing? Like custard is
like putting. That's just gross. Pudding

1777
02:00:59.159 --> 02:01:01.319
sucks, dude. Do you remember
your forty time from high school? My

1778
02:01:01.439 --> 02:01:03.399
forty time in high school? I
think it was a five to two.

1779
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:06.760
I think that was at mine too. Yeah, yeah, we get to

1780
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:15.760
forty here, boys, maybe you'd
be drunking off a race Chris's friend.

1781
02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:20.640
That was so that was wild.
But that'll do it for us today.

1782
02:01:21.079 --> 02:01:26.399
Appreciate you all tapping into the Lord
live on woolbrid sports dot com. Make

1783
02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:32.680
sure you smess at like button cash
for easy for me. I am Spencer.

1784
02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:35.079
We're the heavyweights. We'll catch you
guys tomorrow. Peace,