I'm okay. I just smiled another to in the face. Yeah, she
want to stay singing to you preach that go with don't just try to tell
me you love me. You can't keep it. Really, if you really
don't trust me, you come with a reel, you get up in the
front so you get my meals. I'm conning for the money, money in
the bank, coming with a dank scrilling that tank thrilling with the gang.
You sitting on the side of that trip. I go to the whole with
a rock like, yeah, I'm okay. What up though, Welcome to
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very much appreciated coming off of our Super Bowl Sunday, first and foremost real
quick, Happy birthday, Uncle T. Fox, Happy birthday, Uncle T.
She was showing them last day. He said, nothing, yeah,
none, nothing this house all night last night. You didn't say anything but
heavy birthday, Uncle Pete. And we appreciate you for having the boys over.
It was a great a lot of good food, a lot of laughs
being shared, a lot of magazines being looked at. Yes, I wasn't
touching those things. We didn't know if the pages. I was like,
I'm good. I can see him from uh, from from when you're opening
them, like I said the smash that like, but if you see my
guy Stick in the streets, make sure I have some diapers, some clean
ones. Though there's some uh size zero. I don't know. I think
yeah, I think it's size zero. Yeah. Uh. He had a
dipe party over the weekend. Two. So if you guys see Stick graduated
them as a brand new baby and took him up some diaper's target car.
Whatever you gotta do. But aunto sports, what do you want to start
this one? Spinny? I would probably say the Super Bowl? Yeah yeah,
superl did happen yesterday? All right? Firstly, I have the Super
Bowl. Who do you think is gonna win? I think's gonna win the
Lions. No, we just take away from Super though. It was it
was a defensive battle. Man, it was a defense. Everybody was saying
I saw it on Twitter a bunch of different people. All the Lions would
have won this game. They would have been up thirty five, like Antonio
Brown, so like thirty eight ten right now or whatever. I mean,
they definitely would have had the best offense on the field in that game,
but I don't know if their defense would have been able to go up again.
Those those were two elite defenses. Oh you saw last night though.
They were both flying around, making tackles, making hits everywhere. Obviously overtime
nobody knew what the fuck was going on with overtime, like did they win?
Did they not win? Is the clock gonna run out? Does the
clock not stop? What happens now? But it was a good game overall.
Usher killed the performance, and uh, it was fun. It was
fun. It was a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, I mean
because we had all day talk sports, and I promise you we will the
Usher performance with a backlash. Yeah, I didn't understand. I didn't either.
I can see it not being your favorite, I can see you not
loving it. But to say it was bad, that that blew my mind.
Thought he had a great I thought it was a great performance. I
think we ended up saying this top five. Yeah, at least looking fine.
Oh my herding on the guitar louta popped up little John popped up,
dude was flying in the background. I didn't beat that till you're driving home.
Yeah it was. I thought it was a great performance. I thought
it was great too. I listen. If if you didn't enjoy that,
do you either just aren't old enough right to have like like live through the
Usher era, or two you just didn't enjoy the nineties you didn't allow yourself
to joy the nineties into the two thousands because like Usher was playing banger after
banger after the banger after banger. Then I went today like a I don't
know, this is weird? Should I do? I rewatched Michael Jackson's and
then I rewatched Princess because that's Uncle T who seemed more super than the two
of us combined. Yes, he said those were his top two and everything
else is underneath that, So I was okay. Michael's dances ass Off performed,
He's a great performance of all time. Prince Sanger's ass off, He's
phenomenal, and he's playing purple Rain and then it started raining, Yeah,
like purple Illuminati. Yeah, you started floating from the surface. No,
she was a little bit combination of that, a little bit of saying a
little bit of performance and like, bro, what banger after banger after bank?
Like I forgot how many bangers she actually had? Oh yeah, dude,
she's got hits. Man and he was groping Alicia Keys on stage.
Oh man, it was, oh my god crazy. I thought Swiss beats
good. Come from the season. You look at Swiss twenty two here.
Oh yeah, Oh my god, damn Alicia Keys is she She is gorgeous.
She is gorgeous. She looks stunning last night and she knew what she
was doing walking sideways like that, so you see all that gas. Yeah,
Alicia Keys is one hot piece of race. To be fair, though,
like the same way if you're dating like an actress and she's in movies
like making out with dudes, it's just like part of like the entertainment industry,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like we're just making more of
it than it is because I adam twenty two probably don't know because I mean
they're just performing. Do Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, he did.
I mean there was one part I be like, okay, in the
very beginning he was like running as I was like, all right, that's
that wasn't necessary, sir, and like it was just the whole time.
As soon she stepped on this sing, he was just like me, how
could you not? Like it was it was in red and shiny too,
Like it was definitely definitely a cite to behold. You're the music guy,
Chris. You have a whole what's your What's your? Podcast called the rap
K Podcast, So we've been doing that and we're definitely gonna break down the
halftime there on that this week. But I thought it was phenomenal. I
just like I kind of started with like, you know, B minus or
a B, like like really good but not the best. But as I
thought about it, it really was. It really was well done. I
mean, he the set list was flowing. It was it was forty seconds
of each song like the best snippets of it. Almost like it was like
a TikTok TikTok or Instagram performance that was dope. Like you said, bringing
out all the different people was awesome, and I just feel like it just
it kind of ended weird though, like it kind of just like you know,
it was ending, but the camera was just on him for like an
extra second or two and then he paused. It was like sea and so
and that kind of like spalled it. But other than that, yeah,
it's probably like a top five performance for me that the hip hop person Like,
I'm always definitely better than Rihanna being pregnant and just standing there. Yeah,
I'll do expect to be on but like that's that's yeah, she a
little bit. I watched that today too. She's a little a little these
you know what I'm saying, And she got bankers, but it was I
don't know, again, she wasn't the before that. Usher. Like you
said, Usher was rollerblading at times, you know what I mean, That's
true too. He was. He was all over the floor. He was
killing it. That's why to me, like, I think my top four
are pretty clear in the in the Prince m J. The Kendrick Drake,
every Kendrick dre and everybody, the West Coast one and then this one.
I think like, yeah, the West Coast one was sick, especially because
it was in l A and LA was playing and you had you know,
dollar fifty cent hanging from the ceiling. That inflation, Yeah, that inflation.
That's the best joke. That ship is so funny, Nick, What
you make at the Super Bowl halftime performance. I was smacking food. I
had to pick up my uh the wings I was telling you guys about and
I had Thai food being delivered like, I had a lot going on at
once. So I missed the Usher halftime. I have not been able to
watch it. Obviously. Usher is a legend, but I don't go too
crazy about these half time performances. They're really just not for me. MPs
talking about that. Jesus gets us it. There was was weird religion.
J C shalled out a lot of money for the Super Bowl ads man,
there was like four or five just yeah, hey, bro, I mean
water to win, Like I'm not. I'm sure he's got it. I'm
sure he's got Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, j C.
Big year for JC and the Super Bowls. He was coming up, he
was coming up. Yeah, I guess. I mean, you guys,
I've never been like a big on Super Bowl EDGs. I mean I watch
it. I'm there for him, but I'm never like whatever they are this
year and even catch you guys eye this year I paid the New York dude
Christopher walking on the best part was the first dude, Yeah, this is
great. Really them trying to get Arnold Schwarzenegger to drop the hard art.
That was ship that was actual. Yeah, okay those those my one two
he said name Bird. Yeah, I was like, burn this woman's labor.
That was a good one. That was a good one. The ben
Affleck boy band commercial, Yeah, that's pretty good. Do you like the
Did you like? That? Was like thirty second Kanye Wait? What yeah?
Kanye was Kanye. Yeah. It was like just him on his phone,
like I paid all this money for the commercial spot and I did.
I forgot to pay for the commercial, So go to yeezy dot com.
I got shoes and that's it. Oh wow, yeah it was that was
that was and it was like it was like it was like uploaded in like
real format, you know, like that, but it was exported the other
way, so it's just like an all black screen. Yeah, and then
him and darken his car. It was. It was weird. It was
the Pringles one was funny to Chris pratz on, Yeah, that one was
funny. Yeah, I guess that would be the three then. I mean,
it's not worse than this album, though. I can't believe they're trying
to They're trying to get out on towards nigger like that bro tried to the
dude was like, neighbor, maybe they're trying to get him drop the RS
man. It was, that's pretty well. That was a funny commercial.
Oh and the one the even though I already saw it before the Super Bowl,
the Patrick Stewart one where he throws Hey Arnold like that was that's just
funny as hell. Oh, throw the boy, Creed comes, shut him
mouth paramore the other part two that I was taking the whole tire time when
I first watched that one, was like, honestly, I throw was probably
going just as far to it through it, but it's probably missing it as
well. Yeah, he's probably you know, short short army that one too.
What about Kelsey bossing up on Andy Reid last night? Yeah? We
did you take it on that one? I saw A J. Brown said
if that was me, I would have got kicked out of the league.
He ain't, He ain't, Like, yeah, that's I meant to send
one video the best, the best one is man, my bitch is here.
Yeah, that's fun. That was so funny, Like I remember,
and I'll send it if I can find it or if Chris is down because
it'll be over by then. Actually we still got time. I'll send it.
But at one point during the season, I remember which game it was,
but Kelsey threw his helmet and like he's throwing a fit in the same
way kind of was last night and one of the workers when they gave it
back to him and then he regrabed it from his hand and was like,
no funk, that he needs to cal him down whatever. And then once
he get back to him and he was like chest bumping him. It's kindle
their relationship and is also different when like one guy is like sixty five years
old plus pounds, his knees probably like don't work as well from playing.
Probably saved him, No, he kept him up right, That's what I'm
saying. Yeah, I feel like it looked worse would because he was pretty
bad. Yeah, he's pretty aggressive. Actually, I was worried his knee
was gonna buckle and that was that because he blindsided him. Yeah, I
was actually worried me. I was like, what if he goes down on
these sidelines, who's coaching? You know? What if he got pulled out
like Travis, that would have just horrible. And the Drake CT would say
Drake Greenlaw and the second quarter that changed the game. Yeah, Travis Kelcey,
he was locking Travis Kelcey down. Travis Kelcey one catch for one yard
until he got taken out. I don't know about all that. I do
like he was playing him very very well. I don't think that makes as
much as a difference. I mean, Travis Kelsey. You don't think the
starting linebacker that was guarding him for the majority of the game when he only
had one catch, getting injured and leaving the field doesn't affect it, correct
because it was the one guarding the entire game. Maybe a certain reps.
Yeah, he's also not known as like a coverage linebacker. He's like he
was doing it great, just as a box defender laying the law down.
He's not really like a nobody's known for Romo. Yeah, Romo is bad
too. You just hate Romo. I do hate Romo. Yeah, to
be fair, Sorry Jesus Feet, I don't get it. I didn't see
that commercial either. Yeah, Taranty out directed. Yeah, Chris was saying,
Yeah, that was that was pretty weird. Romo sucked at the end
to it, just like put the nail in the coffin. Then I hate
Tony Romo is the broadcast where he's like, you know, if you got
if you're trying to get three, you gotta get two first. Oh yeah,
no ship Tony like real, real, great deductive research there. Yeah,
to win three in a row, you gotta win two in a row
first, and you know what, you know what you got to do before
that? You gotta win one. It's crazy how that works, Tony.
Yeah that last night, he didn't know, he didn't he was singing at
the funny his animals start kicking in that ship was even Jim nance is like,
all right, let's go to commercial. Yeah, it's like me and
you that I was like suld I do on the show all the time.
Dudes in the super Bowl, No, because he says, and he's just
got that stupid cheese dick smiled, just a smug face and he's funch in
the mouth. Dude. So I'm saying, worst super Bowl ever? What?
No? I like that one hare golf and yeah, Patriots is the
worst super Bowl I've ever snooze fest. That was terrible. It was like
thirteen six, just awful. There's only one touchdown. No, that was
that that was awful, and Patrick Mahomes to Patrick Mahomes fashion he did.
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and share the stream. Where do you want to go first? To goat
talk? You want to do the Shanahan choke talk? What's Jack Labrador for?
It, all right, which what do you want to represent? I'll
do goat talk, so I do is win, I'll do choke talk.
That's not bad. It's totally accepting. Fun with it ready, Kelsey Jack
laborate, door Jack Laborate, door ham Man. All right, is Kyle
Shanahan a choke artist? It's starting to look like it. I mean,
how many super Bowls you're gonna go to and lose? Like, if three
losses in the Super Bowl, that's tough. I understand, like it was
with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purty, But come on, man, Like you
have an all star team, you have a team with first team All pros,
littered throat the lineup on both sides of the ball. You need to
get over the hump eventually, and I get it. Like Andy Reid didn't
win a Super Bowl until Patrick Mahomes got there, and Bill Belichick didn't win
a super Bowl until Tom Brady got there. Yes, but those guys weren't
consistently getting the Super Bowls. Like Andy Reid was in one super Bowl before
he had Patrick Mahomes and he did lose. But this guy has now had
three opportunities at it and he's lost all of them, So I think at
some point you need to start having that conversation that he's choking in the biggest
spots. His offense choked hard against New England, just abandoned the run.
We know, twenty seven straight points and New England got that chip when he
was in Atlanta and in San Francisco. Now he's choked a couple times,
So I do think it's time to start having that conversation that this guy can't
get it done in the biggest spot. I hate it, bro I think
he's a great coach, he's a great play caller, but some people just
ain't cut like that. Come listen. That would hold true in any other
circumstance or any other case, circumstances that didn't include Patrick Mahomes and Tom fucking
Brady, Like like, those are the two people he's losing to. That's
what you gotta if you want to win the Super Bowl, you gotta beat
the best. Patrick to be the man and Tom Brady to be the man.
You gotta beat the man. Eli Manning went out there and he beat
Tom Brady. Tom Brady beat Patrick Mahomes. I know this fucking spider Man
mean like, but like to be the man, you gotta beat the man.
And you can't have that excuse if. If you want to win the
Super Bowl, you're gonna have to beat the best players in the world.
Brother, that's not that's what you have to do, You dragged. Listen
because the contact situation is crazy. First and foremost, I already mentioned Tom
Brady and Patrick freaking Mahomes. Those are the two guys he lost to.
Like again, any of the circumstance validity is there. Let's add some more
contexts and you already mentioned this too. First one, Jimmy Garoppolo certified,
I don't want to call him bump as respectful NFL player data, porn stars,
forty contract, all that good stuff like that, But at the NFL
level compared against his peers, fucking bumm average at best. All right,
that's who he took the Soup Bowl the first time around, going against Patrick
Mahomes second time, mister irrelevant literally the last pick and the entire fucking dress.
Who was a v He wasn't a real MVP candidate. He was Christian
McCaffrey got more MVP votes than him. He doesn't. No one listened,
anybody voted for him as an MVP candidate, turning your credentials, that's that
is awful. I mean, what are we doing here? I have respect
for him as like a game manager, but he's not MVP caliber worth.
Like, that's not even argument I'm gonna use here or a lot. I
mean that suspectful. I guess to turn that down. But I'm not looking
at Black Pratier as an MVP candidate. But mister irrelevant, Jimmy Garoppolo going
up against Patrick fucking Mahomes, It's just it's him getting the Super Bowl.
Those guys alone, you know what? You know what? Uh, Patrick
Mahomes and Tom Brady being on the other side doesn't have to do with it,
huh. It doesn't have to do with your offense completely shutting down.
It doesn't have to do with you giving up twenty seven straight points not scoring
a single points against the Patriots. It doesn't have to deal with your offense
not being able to do anything in the second half against the Chiefs in the
Super Bowl. Like I understand, Yeah, those are two of the goats.
Those are one one one A, one A one B when you talk
about goat conversation. But to win a super Bowl, you're gonna have to
beat the best teams. You're gonna have to beat the best players. So
at some point it's not just Okay, yeah, he's had bad luck.
That's what you want. That's what you gotta do to get the girl.
You gotta slay the dragon. To save the princess, you gotta slay the
dragon. And you're gonna have to slay that Patrick Mahomes dragon. If you
want to win the Super Bowl, very if you are slaying those dragons,
well, but show guards again, Patrick Holmes, Tom, That's that's fucking
insane me. And at top of that too, like to get there,
like they got the miscord their field goal. It is what it is.
But Patrick Mahomes, this is how great this guy is. Let's not forget
that game winning drive. One fourth down conversion which he converted on his feet,
another two more third down conversions, what's another one of those on his
feet as well, Like like that's just how great Mahomes is, Like you
just that's just that's what he does. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, they're
in the same class too. Now you're Matt Ryan in that situation, you
are at control of defense over there to your college the offensive coordinator. But
I remember I look back the numbers actually for that one to two. Yeah,
m P Matt Ryan, MVP Matt Ryan because of what though, y,
But let's not let's not disrespect this man for what he is. Do
you get to go there and lose? And like, is anybody going there
with mister irrelevant and Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, it doesn't matter if you go
there if you don't get it done. Nobody talks about the team that lost
in the Super Bowl. People are dick sucking them right now. Three super
Bowls and he didn't doing to what you got Patrick Mahomes exactly, but he
wouldn't lose. People gonna get to that many times, Like I don't understand,
like we're knocking him down for getting them more times than Andy. So
did the Bills teams choke? Where those Bills? Was that a known choking
team? What do you mean that Bills team that lost four Super Bowls in
a row? I lived that era, like but that, Yeah, they're
choked. They choked. It was they got to the biggest age and they
choked every single time. Getting there. Getting there is awesome, getting there,
You know, here you go, kid Pat on the back, Kyle
sat game. But you gotta fucking win it. If you want to be
a great coach, if you want to be recognized with the coach, you
need to win super Bowls. And it's gonna happen. This guy's what thirty
eight, thirty seven years old. We'll see he's not beating the choking allegations.
You can't. I'm not giving me choking allegations. I'm sorry, I
can't do it, and they gain't me another coach in this league that's going
to the super Bowl, the fucking Rock Purty and Jimmy Garoppolo. Name me
another coach in this league who lost three super Bowls in the past ten years.
Name me another one is going to three super Bowls in the past again
with Jimmy Garoppolo and perty, Yeah, against this it's just not a choker,
like you can't say you killed. He literally has gone there. And
on top of that too, you and I ain't en get to say this
part too. Back to the Atlanta series that he had two of those series
two call stars dropping them back ten yards and then another one was a fumble
from Matt Ryan that those are like that ship like out of his just like
he was the situation. And then that was before the overtime. Only two
overtimes in Super history Shanahan lost both. Check this out though, that's before
the overtimes the way it was yesterday. That choke shit. That is fun.
But if they had the rules of like what we saw yesterday, maybe
he would have won with the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, he was to
say all momnimums against him in that one too, But Nick, Nick,
where you at with this one? The biggest reason to me why I feel
like he did choke away this game. We all know that he went against
the best and Patrick Mahomes and that's why you have to duffer, so you
can't have your offense out there on those fourth downs that Casey converted was because
they knew they had to go for it. Yeah, that's why I just
completely think that Shanahan did choke away this game. A. You know you
have to go for it on those fourth downs. B. You'll have a
chance to go for two and completely win the game against say the kids of
City scores and goes for a field goal. You have a chance to score
another touchdown and win the game going for two if you would have deferred three,
your defense gets a turnover, field goal wins you the game. Yeah,
those are like, it's just completely blasted me to be that they would
take the ball first, because if you go for a field goal, you're
losing that game to Mahomes. So his reason for taking the ball first,
I thought it was a dumb reason. He wanted to be the last one
of the opted to score. And I get it because well he didn't go
for it on fourth downs o t though Patrick Mahomes in that situation. Yeah,
like I'd rather have the ball last to Patrick. You see what I
haves when Patrick Mahomes the ball last. It's not it's not pretty if you
if you not party, I agree he should have deferred. I thought that
would have been the better choice. I thought he should have deferred because then
you know what you need after their first possession. That's what That's where I
was. But uh Neil made a good point of He's with Shanahan's reasoning because
if you both score touchdowns, then you have the ball in a sudden death
scenario. So if you do take the ball in that new overtime situation,
you have to score a touchdown or you're gonna get Mahomes. You can get
mahomeie an auto, Like you need to score that touchdown there or you're gonna
get beat. I'm saying on some of those yeah, that was a funny
one. Yeah almost there. I can don't worry. But yeah, I
just think on those fourth downs, maybe they don't run some of those same
places Kansas City. You just I don't. I just hindsight shit like that
though, Like I mean, you have to change up your game plan when
you're playing against the Mahomes against a Brady, and I feel like just deferring
was the right move there. I just I questioned it is the moment it
happened me too, the moment it happened, I need it too. I
was room he did it. I don't. I don't. I don't see.
I don't have any issue with it personally. I see the lodge get
it. I see where again you don't want Mahomes at the ball the situation
and then going for in that fourth down is like okay, well, now,
like all they need is the field goal to win. You know what
I'm saying, Like, if you don't get that fourth down, I will
say I wish they probably ran a little bit more in the third quarter because
we saw in the ot when they started off just running. We were like,
oh shit, like they could just run it, they'll be straight.
That's why I didn't know the whole time rules so too. I was like,
yeah, it's running and then you close it out done, it's yours.
But I don't know, man, I think you have to give respect
respects due. And that's like the conversation is gonna lead to the next segment,
is is Patrick Mahomes a fucking go because like, like I get it,
call my chograph you want, but like Patrick Mahomes is fucking insane.
Yes, he is insane. Tom Brady, what he's done in this league,
we thought, I think, I mean, you can still kind of
say to say because what he's done is saying too. But we never see
again in our lifetime. Here we are, we're seeing it. We might
we might see it again in this lifetime. I mean, this is not
He's halfway there in six years and six years he's got three Super Bowls,
three Super Bowl MVPs, and two MVPs. Chris apologizes, but I didn't
get to go to during the chokes off either. Yeah, I just feel
like it. When it comes to that, you have to say he's starting
to choke. Because Spencer made up the good point of Patrick Mahomes is only
on one side of the ball, and you are known as the offensive guy
and your offense stalls with the lead like this is a This is a guy
that has consistently come up short. So I think and I get your point
of Okay, his Super Bowl losses are to the two people that were having
the discussion for goat consider what has too But you know what he does have
that that Mahomes doesn't have right now is a star studded team. Mahomes has
good players on his team, but you can't tell me top to bottom.
Watching the first three quarters of that game, it is clear Sam fran is
the better team top to bottom, like like completely clear. So for that
to happen and then for you to have the lead and then come up short,
I think you have to consider it. You have to sit it a
choke. And if you want to, like Spencer said, if you want
to say he you can't say he's not. I can't say not not like
you can. You don't have to say he is a choker. But it's
very hard to make the argument that he's not. I don't agree. I
mean, again the context of like what he went to war with and then
when he was going up against I mean, when Patrick Mahomes got that ball
that he wasn't go down there and score, they held him to fourth fourth
him at fourth down? Did you think that he was gonna go down there
and score? Though? Yes, yeah, you thought Patrick Hoummes was gonna
score one hundred percent. I thought he was going to score on that last
touchdown. That's why we said yes. Yeah, no, I said,
I thought you didn't think he was going to score? Oh no, yeah,
it's Patrick mahone exactly. Regulation here's another sample actually too. And actually
this is what I want to answer for because I don't know the answer to
it. If nobody's listening to chat and and historians, and I want you
to come accurate the two because I want to be up here saying, dumb
ship, can you name me the other coach has gone to the Super Bowl
with multiple different quarterbacks Sean McVay. Yeah, yeah, that's true, and
they're the great coach though, but yeah, outside of that, and guess
what the I don't know that Sean mc got there, got there with a
certain type of quarterback, said fuck, I don't know if we get this
done with this type of quarterback, and what do you do? He went
and got a guy who could make shit happen, and then they go happen.
They won the fucking super Bowl, like Andy Reid, another example of
it. Got there, but when he got his quarterback, then he started.
When Andy Reid did multiple multiple quarterbacks, Yeah, right, get there
Smith Smith ever went with them, And again I hate for this. It
sounds like I'm shitting on Rock Party and Jimmy g but it's just the reality
situation, Like there are levels to this. You see, those guys are
good at what they do, and then you'd be absolutely right. But like
levels to this, you know what I'm saying, Like the ship that Stafford.
I'm not gonna use my home because mahomes in a fucking other atmosphere.
But ship the Stafford does BERTI perty couldn't dream of doing. That's fair.
Yeah, I mean if he gets one those and don't forget too. They
were trying to trade for Stafford mahomes with this boy up and they tried to
trade for Lance choked on that. Yeah, exactly, worst trade in the
history of the NFL. Well, Sean, that's actually a good question too,
is just sewn Sean? For sure? After doing that, do you
are you done with you try to upgrade to like a Stafford type of dude.
I think you have to. I think you got to do a last
dance, like this window is not going to stay open forever. Yeah,
right, like Trent Williams. And they got all those dudes on contracts.
Hella touches? How long did he go for? Was hanked up last night?
In overtime? Thirty touches and overtime he was gassed? Yeah, Bill
Belichick, did you do it with with his name or something? No?
No, he didn't get there with Brady. Did he get through with blood
saw? No, Brady came in for champions Yeah, won their Super Bowl.
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Appreciate you guys for tapping in with us. I'm easy. If you
haven't listened, that's been more Rex, that's young Chris, that's Nicholas call
off, and that's the light button somewhere around. Smash it, Smash smash.
I'll be a friends to our friendship. The stream we're debating, I
guess it's child hitch hands and choke guards. I just I don't. I
can't see it that way. When he's given the history and give all he's
going up against and who's going up against. And those two choking situations are
three, if you will, Tom Brady and Patrick Mahaks goats goats. The
question is means being out of this conversation the way back, and I couldn't
refute anything you were saying. And I don't know if I feel any different
today. Who should go this morning when you woke up? I mean,
Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. Yeah, shout out, let me
wash those feet, curse my Lord and Savior. Yea, my Lord,
say appreciation. I still gotta go with Brady, man, I still gotta
go with Brady as of right now because he's it is February. No,
I still gotta go with Brady just because you never know what can happen to
a guy. You never know what with the trajectory, with how it's going,
it does look like Patrick Mahomes is gonna get there, But like seven
to three, I mean, that's still a pretty big gap. And Brady
did it with two teams, two regimes. If say, Patrick Mahomes wins
another two for KSE and then goes to Jacksonville and wins the Chip. Then
I'll be like, all right, yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes. I'll say
Patrick Mahomes the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. He's got the most skill.
Yeah, but goat, winning is what's most important in sports. Winning
matters more than anything else. Winning matters more than talent. Winning matters more
than athletic ability. You play to win the game, and Tom Brady did
it more than anybody else. So I'm saying Brady as right now. And
Tom Brady beat the allegations of being Bill Belichick dependent, yeah, because he
went and he did it with the Bucks. So even though that Bucks team
was yuck, but Brady, like, don't act like he was no.
Like he threw for four thousand yards fifty touchdowns. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
still give it to Brady as of right now. But Patrick Mahomes is hot
on the hot on the tail, like he's getting pretty damn close. Yeah
for me, man, I'm siding with you. That's why I was in
the car last night. He kept bringing up great points though, but for
me, it's seven rings, bro, Seven rings, man, I don't
care how they came. Seven rings, and like to know that he because
Here's what's one thing you said that I agree. I think anybody that if
you don't agree, I just I mean, maybe there's someone I haven't seen
that you maybe a damn marine or something like that. But he is the
most talented quarterback, the greatest skilled quarterback. I'm talking about Patrick Mahomes that
I've ever seen. I think that's ever played in the game. There's many
people that have been in the game, watched the game for a long time.
They have that in opinion. I don't think you know that. So
for Tom Brady not to have that skill set, IM credit Bill Bichick too.
But they did it again once without Bill back, but seven of those.
And you talked about how the past two for Patrick Mahomes have been with
scrap heaps and wide receiver, Yeah, Brady never had. Brady's best receiver
was Brandy Moss and they didn't win the Super Bowl that year. Brady had
the stud tight end like Patrick Mahomes did. He always had a good tight
end, whether it be Gronk or Aaron Hernandez. But you look at the
receivers that Brady did. Brady made made Dion Branch a pro bowler. Brady
brought Julian Edelman, Wes Welker and uh Danny mmon doola to be household name
Chris three five eight white dudes like our household games in the NFL because of
Tom Brady. Who were Tom Brady's best running backs when he was winning Super
Bowls. James White, Like, come on, James White was crazy in
the Super Bowl and it's like, dude, it's break. His defense was
always loaded on. Yeah, but this is the what Mahomes is doing right
now is how Brady won his Super Bowls his whole career. Stud tight end,
great defense, nobody watch receivers. That's how carry more like like Tom
Brady Moore. Again, I don't mean there's a dispeactfl away, and I
hope this isn't taking this dispeaful away, but like systematically just finally the open
guy, just being smart, making the right throws, taking hold in your
mom up guy, Like right, Mahomes, I mean we just said last
night, if something's not there, like you take that bitch for twenty hours.
Yeah it's not. He's like the mole. He's not like the fastest
guy either. He just Brady used to tuck that bitch when he when he
has. He was and he looked like a gump. But he would pick
out four. When he pick up four, guys, I've seen him break
a couple. Uh shot out to where was it? Damn it what somebody
said about Joe Montana. Oh m p w Joe Montanna went four and oh
coke to the gills. Dude, you gotta but he had the playmaker like
he had, you know, the record holder. And but still like hal
Mahomes is doing it right now is what Brady did it with his every year
he won the Super Bowl. Nobody wide receivers, a great tight end and
a great defense. Yeah, I think Mahomes carry's more of the load than
Brady did. With all due respect. Hell yeah, but yeah, no,
he's got he's gotta get. He's got to get to five or six
before I can put him up a Brady yes, And that sounds insane to
say, I guess, But like this guy went back to back and with
again no dispect the scrappiete at the wide receiver position. We talked about the
play callers that Brady did it with. Oh, like Bill O'Brien is a
fantastic that was probably Brady's best. Oh, see was Bill O'Brien, But
Josh McDaniels, this wizard, this whiz kid did nothing with either of his
head coaching opportunities and did nothing with Mac Jones. So was it Josh McDaniels
being a wizard on as offensive coordinator or was it Tom Brady be in the
goat? Evidence shows that it was Tom Brady being the goat? Yeah,
so I Mahomes is definitely on his way. If he has another six years
like these first six years, then yes he is the goat. But I
think skill set wise, pound for pound, obviously it's Mahomes. Yet actually
have it because they both started that they both began or became starters at the
twenty year twenty three, at twenty three years of age. We have the
numbers, the stats before they turned thirty. Look at this bro. Yeah.
So if you guys are listening on audio, we got Tom Brady with
three thousand, two hundred and seventeen yards the playoffs stats, Patrick Mahomes.
Oh wow, he had his playoff stats before turny thirty. Patrick Mahomes of
five thousand and thirty five, You've got Tom Brady touchdowns is great to Tom
Brady's twenty Yeah, you got Tom Bradys nine perceptions of Patrick Mahomes eight.
I'm sure Mahomes probably don't catch up or be above him in that one.
But then here's this part of it too. I'm talking about like Mahomes kind
of carrying more than load. You got three super Bowl championships, three Super
Bowl MVPs. Tom Brady with three super Bowl championships, only two super Bowl
MVPs. And how about this because he just stats before the age of thirty,
Patrick Holmes does two more years ago because he's only twenty eight years old.
Yeah, so hot on the tail. But as you said too,
is you gotta take your hats off too for him? Just I think somebody
else said in the chat. Don't know if you did it, but like
just Tom Brady surviving that long enough to like do that, Yeah, because
guys get hurt this league. Guys get hurt in this league all the time.
That is a motherfucker who dedicated his body, his life, his soul,
his marriage, his children to the NFL. Like he literally got divorced
with a Brazilian supermodel because he was married to the game. Like that's how
you know Tom Brady's the man. Fact And I love it. Like if
they three peat next year, you might have to say it's patty. Yeah.
Like if they threep next year, nobody is ever three pated in the
NFL. That's fair. If they go out there and three point stay won'tcause
the Lion's went fuck super Bowl next year, that's fuck three p But he's
building the case right now. I'm still going bra and I will say I
love Tom Brady, but Patrick Mahomes is getting up there. He's definitely two
yeah, definitely two nick. I think a big thing in all of this,
fellas is how long is Andy Reid gonna stay with Patrick Mahons and Travis
Kelce true that, Yeah, they have a great thing going. I personally
right now still stick with Brady. But in the next ten years, I
mean, would it doubt anybody to see Patrick Mahomes get four more Super Bowls?
The way this is going right now, he's unstoppable and get when he
gets into that game, Like there's I cannot believe he was an underdog in
this game. It's like that was just free cash on everything. But the
way, I don't know if if you guys saw the show Quarterback that they
aired on Netflix, but the way this dude ticks and prepares it, nothing's
gonna stop this kid. I believe one day he will be the goat.
And it's not today, it's not gonna be next year, even if he
three peats, but he will get to that seven super Bowl champion ships.
And when he gets to the seven Lombards, I mean he's tied with the
the skill just takes him over. Can you say, like the different era
being like in Patrick Mahomes favor two with aple of distractions nowadays? Yeah,
I mean Brady played in this era too though, like and he won a
Super Bowl with four years ago, so it's not like he wasn't he was
out of the league. He's doing this like I mean, like the back
to backs and like he's won two of the last ten Super Bowls. Still
still still yeah, Tom Brady has so like that's my guy. Man.
I love Tom Brady, like even though he's just the son in the mouth,
which is weird because you would look at like the like the quarterback thing
they did on Netflix, look at that as a distraction, Travis Kelcey doing
fift the commercials and Dayton David Swift as distractions. Yeah, there's no excuse
for these guys. Tom Brady's team, they were murdering people and he was
still winning Super Bowl. No oneknew at the time partying like dude. His
dad got arrested for d one last week. His brother Guy divorced from a
Brazilian supermodel and went and won the Super Bowl. His brother sexual soul allegations.
Last year, he kissed his son on the mouth. And still he
has to do with Brittany fucking my homes every day man's wife. But what
what what? Yeah, it tosses to me, you disrespect the man's life.
But no, I think I think about homes Is. We're all gonna
say the same thing here. The more talented pound for pound quarterback, it's
just about filling out the resume. That's just where it's at with Mahomes.
I watched this guy and that last drive and overtime you just knew, You
just knew the whole time, and the fourth quarter drive, but particularly the
overtime. You're just watching it and he just doesn't make a wrong stake and
a mistake and it doesn't even look like he's close to like fumbling the game
away at all. It's just like every single play. It's just like robotic,
like we talked about like Kawhi Leonder that way in basketball. How he
just like plays like a robot, like a computer. That was my Homes
that whole fourth quarter and overtime. It was just it was just like he
was going through the motions. He was always making the right play. There
was never any doubt in my mind. It didn't matter how much time we
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I'm easy spin more wrecks, Nicholas call off smash out like one time to
reel this into a Detroit Lions conversation, Antonio Brown put it out there.
You touched on a little bit there. Oh yeah, and the big CTESBN
dude, greatest tweet of all time? Wait, which one ct ain't effect
this dig though? Is how he said, yeah, bro go And here
is Antonio Brown's tweet. He says, it feels like the Lions would be
up thirty five to ten right now. And I mentioned this in the opening
where I yeah, they would have had the best offense on the field last
night, I will admit that they would have had the best run offense.
They would have had the best that offensive line. How much more do we
respect the Lions offensive line now? After seeing what San Francisco did to Kansas
City in that first half? They were getting pressure and pressure and pressure,
and that Lion's offensive line whoop. The forty nine ers defensive lines ass and
but the defenses that's the calling card, that's what makes the difference. That
is two of the top three defenses in the NFL we saw playing last night,
like two of the top four I'll say, because the other two are
probably Cleveland and Baltimore. And you want to rock party today. But these
guys, with the forty nine Ers having what four first team All Pros on
the defensive side of the ball, the Chiefs having a couple first team All
Pros on the defensive side of the ball, I don't know if the Lions
defense would be able to stop the opposing offenses like we saw them each do
last night, Nick, are the Detroit Lions ready for would have took to
win that game last night? I believe this offense is elite, and we
just basically choked in the second half with turnovers and non conversions on fourth down.
So yeah, I believe they do. And if they don't fumble that
game Jamir Gibbs, and if they pick up the fourth down with Josh Reynolds,
they are in the super Bowl. And like Chris spoket on earlier in
the show, I thought the forty nine ers were clear as day the better
team on that field. They really looked that way, and that means the
Lions hung with the better team in the Super Bowl that just didn't have Patrick
Mahoons. It's basically what it comes down to for me. Yes, the
Alliance deserved to be there, and I think they deserve to be there next
year, and I think they have a full on chance to win it,
especially with the defensive reinforcements coming in. I know people want their biases confirmed,
but I'm kind of in the campus spinney. I don't know if the
Alliance necessary had what it took to get the job done last night. I
just part of it is that man, that man Mahomes, and I know
we did begin the season, but I'm not giving an asterix to it.
But it's the context of the situation. You were missing what because we're both
flights. No, the context of it, though, they're missing two men
that were the second and third best players on there. Yes, Chris Jones
and traps, but this is context that situation. Chris Jones was monstrous.
Guy is a beast. Yes, I had it on the prepsheet a little
bit, But I feel like I kind of did that debate on Friday.
It was who would rather have Chris Jones or Jerry Steed? Chris Chris j
Give me Chris Jones. A guy like that makes your secondary looks so much
better, so much and we live through the Don Casue stuff. We talked
about that probably too, but I just don't know if they're ready for all
that. But that doesn't mean they can't. But I think if you make
the right moves, they could do it. I think they Lions could beat
that Chiefs team if you if you made it a super team. If I'd
being honest with you, I think that's the only way you wanted a Super
Bowl with our style. Play at the quarterback position is making a super team.
Yeah, because once you watch Patrick Holmes, I hope there's only one
one Patrick Mahomes, No funk that. I hope there's another Patrick Mahomes.
We get them. Yeah, yeah, you mean Jared Goss better than Patrick
Holmes. Apparently to some people he's the m v P. But I King
Horse says, I can't wait for Nick to drop his new barbershop quartet album.
But it's that is obviously with the Lions. With the Lions need in
the off season is to add more talent to that defense. The Lions need.
They need a number one cornerback, they need another edge rusher, they
need somebody on the interior defensive line. So that's we all know that that's
the case. There's nobody out there saying that our defense is on par with
the Niners or the Chiefs like. So, yeah, it would have been
a more exciting football game, for sure. It would have been close either
way. But if the Lions were in there instead of the forty nine ers,
it would have been, you know, in the thirties. So Chris
Knicks band, I believe that Dan Campbell doesn't settle though maybe he goes right
on that fourth down. That's like some of the difference in the game.
It seems like Shanahan did kind of tense up a little bit. He went
on fourth down the Reds on that one time. Then it was scoring.
They got the weekend and overtime he didn't, which again I don't think.
I'm not sure you got to kick the field going overtime. You can't give
it to Patrick mahomes with he only needs a field goal to win Super Bowl.
Yeah, that's rare. Matt too, Where are saying the nick?
I apologize? You think it's a fourth down conversion of the difference, Yeah,
I don't. I just feel like we would have kept the ball out
of Mahon's hands more is that would have been our game plan, you know,
running the ball, not fumbling early with christ like Christian mccaffley, but
McCaffrey. But it's easy to say that now looking into it. But I
mean we took care of the Chiefs on the road the first time. It
would have been a mutual site, you know. So decide who's the away
team in the Super Bowl? Worst record maybe? Yeah, I think it's
by a record for the mistaken And I don't really know because I'm pretty sure
no, because the Chief called right, huh, San Frank called stan Fran
was the await team. Yeah, they have the better record. That's weird,
probably because maybe the Ravens had the best record in the AFC. I
don't know. That would maybe make some I don't know, that's a good
question. Look, yeah, you mind looking that up. I'm very curious
what the answers that one is. But no, I think I think again,
I'll say it again, if I think we have what it takes in
the off inside of the ball, I think between Ben Johnson and what Jared
Goff has been as of late, along with the weapons that like you can
hold your own at that far part of it, but like that part of
it, but give me some of the defensive side of the ball as at
least causing turnovers or forcing field goals in the end, I know they did
that again. Getst the Chiefs the first summerround bets without the Travis Kelsey pat
defensive Patrick o'faria says, the San Fraan receivers look like doodoo. Well,
I mean they're also going up against the first team All Pro cornerback in Trent
McDuffie and another all Pro cornerback in Lugerious Sneed Like those are two very good
guys to have on the outside and all Pro with Chris j with Chris Jones
being Chris Jones All Pro defense in lineman and Chris Jones. George Carloutis looked
amazing last night ten for Nick Bolton. We knows the study as well.
Defense is very very talented. Fred Viach he did his damn thing. That's
for damnons All pro cornerback showed out. They alternate every other super Bowl,
So nothing crazy. Okay, yeah, that makes that makes more sense.
I mean, I guess doesn't matter the way, So yeah, I guess
what would have been like for us the monochromatic what detru Lions on next year?
That means the Detroit Lions where the Blueberries in the Super Bowl next year?
How you feeling? But like again, if the true lines want to
do it, I think they have to do some of the things we're gonna
talk about later on the show has acquire like these super Bowl pieces, like
the way we just mentioned all these all pros on the defense side of the
ball for actually both these teams, that's what we're gonna need to complete the
mission. In my opinion, I don't know that like the only way they
get it done is like in a blow out fashion. We're just beating the
shout guys. I don't know. I don't know if we go tip for
tad against Patrick freakin Mahomes, although we quite literally did with the Rams.
That's a stacked team too, though that was very stacked team, Very stacked,
am I I mean, no, Chris, what are the true lines
ready to do with the Are the true lines ready to win that game last
night? Yeah? I think it's a different game, but I think it's
a win game. I think you, like, like you said, you're
not it's not gonna be that low scoring because people are talking about, oh
yeah, the Lions wouldn't have three points at halftime, but they also wouldn't
only have let up ten points, probably like against Patrick Mahomes. So I
think it's I think it's a game where it is winnable because you're right,
you did beat them without two of their three best players, but it was
in their home field, which was an advantage that they wouldn't have had.
I feel like the Lions for the Super Bowl would have had the home field
advantage because I feel like they are the story. They are America's team,
as we've said all year. I think they would have actually had somewhat of
an advantage in that game, if anything, But I think town wise,
I mean, yeah, this this offense can score points on anybody, and
it's just about if the defense makes enough place. And that's what it comes
down to with the defense is it's always been the variance of the defense.
But if the defense had a good game, the Lions could have won.
But says Speedy Sports, I promise, I mean zero try with this question.
But what are your thoughts about the less Need after his unsports conduct penalty?
Were you a Sneed fan before last night? Jerry? You see them
right? Yeah? In the show? What was the penalty? I don't
remember which one? Which one did he have? It was after the play?
I believe you always smacked that guy in the face. Was a diva
holding him? Uh? Yeah? Some of the smacked him in the face.
Yeah, doing work shout on Terry fo bathroom. I was like,
what happened? You guys are like what top five moment in my broadcast?
Yeah he reacted to getting like kind of hell down? Yeah yeah, yeah,
I still like him. Do I think Dan Campbell brings him in?
I don't know. I think listening to him like through interviews, and it's
hard to tell these people because you don't know the mass bad you know,
what do you mean these people? The athletes? I mean like you don't
you're not in the draft process during the interviews to say and Campbell guys per
se. I mean, I know a Dan Campbell guy when I see it.
Dan, Okay, you have the Dan Campbell radar? Yes, what
do you what's the what's the I think Jalen Johnson's more of a Dan Campbell
guy than I think the Jerious needs more than a Dan Campbell guy than Jayleen
Johnson. They both get tagged another both Yeah, they' both probably gettingaged for
sure. No, I'm still down with the Jerry sneed. I'm totally down
for that. Give me. He's another big body corner. He's obviously pormed
the highest level. I think obviously having the pieces I mentioned before help him
do that. Though the George call off, this Chris Jones, it's a
couple of the guys in the defensive line too, I mean Frank Clark once
upon a time as well. But I think the Jerious needs a dog and
I don't think something like that should stop him. It was it was a
reaction. It wasn't like he went obvious way to be a dickhead, kind
of like somebody else that might be resigned. Here we can talk about that
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He likes blue cheese on swings. Hot wings with blue cheese? Are you
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can't say it on air. Why it's very very explicit. Well, I
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bring your girl here in neighbors so I can preface it's a classic. But
go one, I brought some guccies to your mama's just to leave them there
my blank so hard and make the metal detector go off. And I wish
a neighbor would like a kitchen cabinet. Yeah, No, blue cheese is
gross. Yeah, blue cheese is uh. I don't understand how you guys
stuff smash that like button to be a friend's with a friend, childish for
liking ranch or blue cheese. Ranch is just better? He's with me,
let's go. I think it's both. I mean, isn't dairy just mold
general's cheese moldy cheese. Yeah. Broder actually perfect timing with that question because
it kind of segues into the topic. Our guy cd DJ was was pretty
feeling pretty good last night on social media again, okay, speaking of two
chains. He posted a video big Bank take a Little Bank, featured Nick
nasing them and then following that he had this posted and it it's a Graham
story. I think both of my Instagram story. You don't mind throwing this
one o, Chris, it's him, He's reposted Deebo Samuel's thing. It's
a see y'all next year with a heart. But Spinny, what colors that
are? The heart is Hanolulu blue? The heart's blue? Talking about making
money, he's he can't he can't be negotiate with other teams that don't happen
like sixteen days or a month. I'm not mistaken. So it could only
be the Lions that like, he's talking about making a big bank take a
little bank. What are you thinks going on there? C JJ resigned the
Detroit Lions. I'm good with it if they do like that. For that
for the Lions, for sure, I don't know if they're breaking the bank
to resign the CJDJ again and the big bank take little bank thing, I
didn't really understand because Debo's let's play. He's gonna make a lot of money.
I don't think. I don't think got its like he's about to get
money, he's about to get paid. We'll see, we'll see what happens
there. And I I don't like I saw fans doing this, and obviously
CJ did it, I don't see many other players doing it. But when
fans like talk shit about a team losing in the super Bowl or in the
conference championship like Vikings fans, we're talking shit about the Lions winning or losing
in the conference. You didn't even make the playoffs. Why why are you
talking shit? You guys are losers. Shit about a team losing in the
conference championship game when you didn't make the playoffs. And I don't like seeing
people take shots at the Niners for losing in the super Bowl when we lost
to them in the in the Confege Championship. Well, I took a shot
somebody I messed with on Twitter because like that's what we do, trademarkers.
If you don't follow him, he's my favorite follows on Twitter. But I
took a shot at him. It's like, you know, my boy,
though, that's fine, but I'm within that one to the Vikings fans,
like last time you guys were in the playoffs, you got smacked at home
by Daniel Jones Danny divest paid. Yeah, no, I don't want hear
none of that. But would you react to that? Nick? Did you
watch it? Did just see a video from we can't play it? Because
he was like obviously playing music. But was your reaction to CJDJ posts and
the blue Heart along with ce y'all next year. I think it's good to
see that he wants to come back. I mean, he only he got
a very short stint in here. We don't know what he could be in
the biggest game of his career as a Lion. He actually struggled against the
forty nine ers. He did pick up that one penalty against Deebo. I
want to see the bigger sample size for the right price. As Spencer said,
I'm not gonna take snaps away of Brian branch Ifi Malafanu who's been coming
on super hot. We know the kind of playmaker Kirby Joseph is in the
back end, and I just don't want to They got to get creative on
the back end if we are going to bring him back, because I don't
want to take snaps away from those guys, especially a guy like Brian Branch
who got his spots lit or his snaps limited in the NFC Championship game.
So as long as it's at the right price and as long as it's not
taking snaps away from Branch, I'm cool with bringing him back. Yeah.
I guess now that I guess it's Spain someone if it's a shot, because
it can't be shot debo if like he ain't make as much as Debo.
Yeah, so it's got to be a shot contract. Maybe he's being happy
that he's losing. I mean, I don't know, Chris. You had
your hand up, yeah, because thanks thanks for saying that. But that's
the time every time Chris put on a grab, he goes all right,
yep, here you go. Deebo's big salary this year was twenty million dollars.
Yeah, so I don't think it's I mean, yeah, I don't
think it's that it's him getting paid, right, Chris, were you want
to say it has I was just about to say this is nothing but good
news because you look at Brad Holmes in this regime, what have they proven
to do what did they do last year? Jamal Williams was a guy that
everybody thought was going to be back, that clearly wanted to be back,
and Brad Holmes still made the decision to go elsewhere and get David Montgomery,
which we all think is is the right decision hindsight. So to me,
cj DJ saying he wants to come back to this Lions team is nothing but
good news because it doesn't mean that Brad's going to overpay to get him.
It doesn't mean anything like that. All Brad is shown that he is going
to make the best decision for this team. He is going to be very
wise and conscious of his spending in free agency. So to me, this
either means he's coming back at a discount or Brad Holmes is going to find
somebody else that he likes and this is just another player that wants to come
to Detroit, which is a good thing to see because you know, the
more players that want to be in Detroit, the better then you have to
Then you can pick and choose instead of having to be desperate. Let him
have a true opinion on it that I don't want to express until it happens.
I want to happen first in a good way too, by the way,
I want a jinxcene thing or you know, scurry anything away from from
what the situation is. But I think if he's brought back on a highly
incentivized contract, I'm all for it. I one piece. I do believe
though, that is very positive future lines. The fact that he wants to
come back, I'm assuming so whether maybe the blue heart, which is right
you pressure like a recent emojis maybe that's just recently because the heat line season
was over. I don't know or intentionally used that blue heart. The fact
that he wants to come back means one, you're a little harder than Leave
of the Beaver. So was that he Rascal Wally Missus Cleaver two, Tupac
your parc none. Three. People were probably so confused right now. Non
No. But seriously, I think one, he's willing to play in that
rotational role that he was kind of asked for him at to end the season,
because I'm assuming that's what like it was explained to him. Otherwise,
maybe he's expecting to go in to camp and win the job over. But
I still, like Nick said, I don't think you should be taking away
snaps from guys like Brian Branch and Fontaine Fan who clearly produced in their roles
this year as young pieces two. I mean, if this is thirty year
here, but it's also as you know, first the second year in the
in that roles is safety. And then the other part of it too is
he wants to come back here because he wants to win. Talking about all
next year to defend the NFC Conference champions that means his expectation is to be
there again next year and using that blue heart means with the Detroit Lions.
Yeah, So if that's his intentions in coming back, you know, fitting
that rotation or fitting whatever the role may be, and competing to win that
Super Bowl, then I'm all for it because, as I said before,
if you're gonna win a Super Bowl with a quarterback like Jared Goff, you're
gonna need a stack roster. And as much as people may think there's like
some type of beef there between like he and I, he is a good
player. I've never not said he wasn't a good player. I may have
made fun of him and he had a bad game, but I've never not
said he was a good player. Like consistently. Even a little bit of
time that he had this year with us, he was had impactful moments,
you know, to pick against the Buccaneers. I think had another interception against
the Vikings. So like, if he's coming back and it's for something again,
Holly, you symthivized or whatever it may been. Bro, it's great
new Detroit Lions. It is. It is, And I agree with what
Chris said, like, well, both of you guys said, you know,
it's good to have more people want to be in Detroit. It's good
to have players want to be in Detroit. And he wants to be in
Detroit because Detroit is a Super Bowl contender, because Detroit is a team that's
gonna win the NFC next year, because Detroit is a team that's gonna win
the Super Bowl next year. So this is somewhere players are gonna want to
be and I'm all here for it, man. I expect we'll see what
happens. Man. I think they're gonna bring him back, though it feels
like they're gonna bring him back. Lunch backa Lugan's and Wolbers sports chat signed
cj DJ says the nickname wrong, So sorry if he was good, but
he's been proven to be injured every year. Actually, FONTA Mila Final was
the same time span. Has missed less games than Chauncey Gunter Johnson. Johncey
Gonna Johnson's missed more games than font Milifinal in that same time span. So,
to be honest with you, I think that's why you might want to
bring C JGJ back because you don't really know if he's gonna you know,
if you can rely, we've had we've had a serious injury in the safety
room in the past three years. Yeah, all all the past three years,
we've got a serious injury in that safety room. So it's definitely good
to have the depth there. Yeah, Now I'm with you, and like
maybe they draft somebody, signed somebody because Tracy's not gonna be there anymore either.
To be honest with you, remember too, Tracy was part of the
prior regime, and though he got re signed, I don't think it fits
what ag he's trying to do. I think we witnessed that when if he
got you know, certain in the defense, immediately impact Immediately, you're blitzing
him more often and you're getting there causing turnovers. Sacking the quarterback. Tracy
didn't give you none of that. I all due respect to Tracy too.
Tracy got bench like the last four games of the season. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a cut candidate. Yeah yeah, he's getting cut. And I
looked at it pre June. I think it's got a five million dollars savings
with Detroit Lions. Yeah, maybe that goes to CJ. You know,
maybe first year. I mean, I don't know, I don't know what
it is, but I'm totally cool if he wants to come back. And
I think if he does come back, it'll be in the favor of the
Detroit Lions by all means, financially and motivationally too, because he's coming back
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trading on you conversation on Twitter. A lot of people na my DM Yeah,
ask these very specific questions. Send me, yeah, sendme links.
Have you dot com? We kind of have you on this one bleacher report.
I don't know how serious you guys look at those websites on a Bleach
report. I'm not gonna say anything actually either way. Yeah, let's start.
Let's start with this. That was close. Two guys in the possible
trade market, eah trade trade Joey Bosa in a sound back, a sound
of back officially approved to it to uh go out and find a trade that
suits him. And then Joey Bosa. If you guys don't know the LA
Chargers over forty five millions cast base, So I gotta make something shake first
and foremost, Winny, which one of these guys would you rather Hassan Reddick
hands down ten times out of ten. Joey Bosa first of all, very
questionable behavior. Yeah, and I'll say beliefs. He's known for some weird
stuff. I don't know if it's true or not, so I'm not gonna
throw too much dirt on his name or Kanye definitely seems and we've seen him
like trying to fight fans outside of the stadium. Shit, guys. That
just seems like a dick in general. And he misses ten games a year,
but for the past like eight years, Like I want to look,
the last time he played a full season was twenty twenty one, and he's
only played a full season three times in his NFL career. He has played
under ten games more times than he has played a full season. So I'm
good on Joey Bosa. Hassan Reddick, on the other hand, much better
fit. I think next to Hutchinson. We talked about pairing up a speed
rusher with eight and h. How well that works when you get a James
Hudge or James Houston on the other side, or a Hassan Reddick who's a
six to one to two hundred and forty forty pound speed rusher forty found was
gonna say forty five, but he's two forty. This is a guy who's
played that sixteen games every year of his career. This is a guy who
in his last three seasons, last four seasons, has had eleven plus sacks
every year, twelve and a half, eleven sixteen, twelve and a half.
This is a guy or sorry, twelve and a half eleven, sixteen
eleven. This is a guy you signed. This is a guy you I
would make a move for. I would. I would definitely take Hassan Reddick
over Joey Bosa because of the fit on the seam, the Super Bowl experience,
and the availability throughout their careers. Nicholas, this isn't even a question
in my mind at Joey Bosa is not a dang guy. Yeah, you
think I'm going Josie Joe here, Josie, she's on a VA. No.
No, I mean you're going to son Reddit here. It's the perfect
matchup for guy to pair with Hayden Hutchinson. You know Brad Holmes loves his
pairing, but fifteen and a half sacks fifty one TfL's thirteen forced fumbles in
the last four years. It is the perfect pairing and the thing you could
do with this contract if you do get him. I don't know how low
they're willing to sell on a guy that has this much production, but you
could feed him high money for the next like three years before you have to
get a deal done with Hutchinson. So he comes off the books, then
you give the money back to Hutchinson before the extension gets done there. So
I think it it turned out perfect for the next few years here while he's
still putting up this kind of production. Yeah, I believe Joey Bosa and
is Here's here's what it is. If you're training for a son Reddick,
you're gonna have to give him deal, a big fat deal. Yeah,
And we're gonna have to give him that big fat d He's just gonna have
to happen his contract year. If you got him this year. If I'm
not mistaken it it'd be if it's pre June. I was looking at over
the cap it was like one million. It was something crazy, whereas if
you get Joey, he's fourteen million next year, the following year thirty two,
maybe like restructure something. But I also think you're probably giving up less
if you're acquiring Joey versus son Reddick. I don't I can't say around the
same because of Redicks. I'm talking about trade value wise. Yeah, I
think it's so d probably worth a little bit more than Joy. It's going
to be too crazy because the son Reddics only a one year deal. Well,
Joey's only played fourteen games the past two years. Yeah, so it's
like, do you want me to give up a high trade value for guys?
And he's coming up a foot spring too, not mistaken you want to
give a high trade and like any slamming helmets on sids in the parking lot.
Yeah, he's got a weird mustache. His ex him off the list.
To be honest with you, I don't think Joey's gonna become a would
be. I'd be surprised if he did. I'm not necessarily opposed against it.
Like when healthy, obviously the dude was a beast. I think him
and eight I don't. I mean, I don't care who you put next
to eight, And I think either the situation will pay well for us.
But I think how sono Redic it probably is the better fit. I think
a Sogna Redk is the one that would make more sense if you're going to
go out there and acquire like a high value free agent defensive ends, acquiring
a son of Redic is essentially doing the same thing. And maybe that the
trade value did goes a little bit down just because like he's only on that
one year deal and you can't guarantee he's gonna be sign with you, but
he's still like a premier Edge rushier than the day. They're both twenty nine
years old. But as you said, it spending four straight years with double
digit sack seasons. It was multiple teams, multiple different schemes like a son
of Redic is the one for me, for being honest with you, schemes,
teams and dreams like you bring that guy here man, and again we've
seen the fit work. I understand what you're saying. Like anybody obvious,
Aid Hudgson is gonna is gonna have a good day. But who we've seen
have the most success opposite Eighten Hudginson are the speed Rush guys. It is
a Bruce Servan, It is a Jameson to College. Yeah, it isn't
a yeah a job o like you you bring him in here, Yeah,
you might have to pay him front load his contract for two years. Say
hey, hey, a son, you're trying to win a super Bowl or
you're trying to get paid right now, like you come here for a year
or two. Yeah, and you do what you did in Philly. You
can win a super Bowl and then you can go get your contract. Yeah,
and that is that means that should mean something to me, man,
Like that means something to players when you say, hey, we were a
has Son Reddick away from playing in the super Bowl this year. That's something
that will peak the interest of a guy like that. And I mean and
I truly believe that too. Like we asked the question earlier, like you
know, did your Liones that what it takes to win that game last night?
Right now? I don't know, but if you quite a Son Reddick,
uh, listen to Sono reck is a guy who kicked Rock Party out
of last year's conference championship beat Like, give me him all day, especially
if you have eight Hunts on the opposite side of it. For sure seeing
double teams and le migneil doing what he's doing and maybe actually developmental piece into
Rodick Martin at the Terrell Williams coming in as defensive line coach, Like,
sign me up for that all day. And I know Age you likes to
get a little freaky sometimes dropping some some defensive backs back and coverage. I'm
not saying the sod Rex the best at it, but I know he's tried
it. He's done it multiple times throughout his career. Give me that all
day, the son Rex the piece I want. Now, the question is
what's the asking price? You're comfortable with a trade trade value was yeah,
because you're not gonna be only team like gunning for and for sure trading.
That's why they drafted freaking Nolan Smith from the Georgia Buldoffs, essentially the same
dude. Fourth, Well, hope we could be the same Charles Harris and
a fourth, Charles, you think you young? Chase Young went for a
third? You got to pay him a deal to an additional third the last
third, and then in the draft Brox listen Chase Young with sack last night
to while you people trying to respect him on the way, and he said
for second, Yeah, the time was kind of a you know, first
the way, there's no way you believe that a fourth round pick for a
ready I'll go for a third. I don't think that's happening, brother,
second rounder. I think at the least you're looking at you don't think them
had the team that is acquiring him having to pay him a deal is affecting
his draft stock at all. If he was already on a four year contract,
then yeah, it would be a first round pick, but he's not.
You have to not only trade for him, but then pay him.
That is something the factors in. I don't know, Bro, I think
you're wilding over there. What did Jayalen Ramsey go for? I mean,
that's different position. He's also like freaking the thirty some years old. We
end up going for a third round pick. If I'm not mistaken, it
was the third Yeah, yeah, I think it was a third. He's
twenty nine years old. Jayleen Ramsey is twenty nine years is not going for
a fourth round pick. I will what JB do the double grizzy. I
will double grizzy, doubleshit Boying Boying, no axle grease, no axle grease.
If he went for elble barrow outside outside of that's crazy, you had
that thing right outside of like injury happening. I would Yeah, I'll double
sha boy Boying, Oh actual green he goes for a fourth roumping all right,
four straight season doubled like the just sas brother is Jalen Ramsey not one
of the best cornerbacks in the NFL for different systems. Not what he was,
No, not when he's acquired not. When he was traded, he
wasn't still one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. He's definitely on that.
He was on the decline for sure. He looked pretty good in Miami.
So if he's oh, twenty one million next year, fellas in twenty
twenty four, what are you extending him for? If you're giving up,
say a second rounder to get him, are you not resigning him after the
twenty twenty four season and showing I mean, I'm definitely I think the if
you get up the second round of your tensions is to resign him. Yeah,
That's why I said, like, can you pull up what Montest Sweat
signed for? Could you do that on over the cap? She's got probably
something similar to that. If you be honest with you, how old is
Montest Sweat? Actually too, and by the way, too, I wouldn't
have an issue with it if that's what Brad decided to do. Like,
I think we're all kind of like, I don't think it's something the necessarily
do if I'm being honest with you, But if Brad did it, I'm
not tripping Sweat or eighty four years eighty nine million, four years eight nine
million was a breakdown ninety eight, sorry, ninety eight. So what's that
like? Twenty five million a year? Basic, twenty five million a year.
Yeah, you got Jared Gobb's contract coming up to you have to resign.
I'm Arol Saint Brown, possibly as soon as this year. I don't
know. That's tough, boys, what There's no way I don't think this
happens. If I'm being honest with you, I've been you know, some
people told me it's been talked about, and then obviously it's a lot of
pieces that the fall in mind for it to happen. But I just just
doesn't look like a Brad Holmes move at all in my opinion. You the
exact opposite that from what came out of his press conference. Yeah, it
just has to. I mean, this is the exactly the question man,
exact type of guy that I'm looking for, blue chip player on the defense
that can greek havoc on a quarterback. I mean thirteen forced fumbles in the
last four years. Yeah, that's just causing turnovers. I mean, the
dude's a problem. Anytime you've seen Philly play the last two years, he's
been an absolute dog on the defensive line and to pair that with Hutchinson.
I just think we can cause so many turnovers in the back end. It's
just can you do it for or can you get a contract done for the
next two years so you're still able to sign guys obviously like Hutchinson sewell,
your blue check guys that you are the ones that brought in that change this
culture. You're just trying to be in the middle of it. So today,
which player do would you rather the Lions trade for Hasan Reddick or Joey
Bosa. And then at the end of it, I don't think they're gonna
make this move instead of so Reddick. Yeah, but I said, end
of the day, I don't think it's a Now, I don't think so
this is this is the move that a team that is forth to win the
end of the Super Bowl next year in odds, this is a move that
they make, Like we have to start seriously looking like at these players and
having these serious conversations because we're a part of that elite in the NFL that
makes these moves. Now, it just depends we've never been here, so
we were not used to it. And would the Eagles do it for Lions?
Because the Eagles are still trying to win a Super Bowl, so they
give a son riding to the Lions, who are favorite in the NFC.
Yeah, that's a great point. We did it for them. Yeah,
darry Slay, Swift, oh Swift, Swift and yeah but darry Slay,
we weren't a contender back then. Yeah, I mean we just handed them
Swift. I would like to have a player of a Son's caliber, but
I just it's just not a Brad Holmes. I can't think he's gonna trade
or sign anybody a big value. No, not really, if he did.
I mean, Danial Hunter's kind of growing on me because I'm seeing the
contracts. I think the last one I saw was like a three years,
sixty seven million, which I don't even know what that breaks down to.
Your better math than me twenty twenty two. Like, I'd be cool with
that, but I didn't even know if that's going to happen. I really
if the way Brad Holmes has been playing free agency and its acquisitions in gen
outside of the draft, it's been like those guys and those one to two
year proven deals, and I think that's where Bradham's going to go. I
think Bryce Hoffis guy you look towards because he had that one year of production,
so you take gamble on him. Okay, Hey, Bryce will give
you two years. I don't want to anymore. Man, I don't want
to gamble anymore either, man gambling winning the whole damn thing. There's too
much stock up. I'm with you too. I feel like if you sign
your big guys though, that you need to with a Sewell Saint Brown.
I mean, those are the two guys are to do up, maybe a
Lean, but those won't effect this those won't affect next year's cat. They're
all on contracts already. So then I am willing to gamble personally. Yeah.
Well, I don't want to get no. I gamble. I gamble
with good players. I don't want to gamble with somebody one year. Yeah
yeah, like one year of product production. Yeah, I gotcha. I
said it last week too. I flip flopped on it throughut the show because
I was kind of thinking it out and I was also kind of drunk.
But when I listened to him last week, I bringing it like depth,
like he wants depth. He's thinking about like winning in January stead up like
pair and pairs. Yeah, we want to pair those things too, but
we're looking to win in January. That's pretty good. That was pretty good.
But so I think he's gonna like again. I think it's ended up
being those type of dudes unless some falls of that just can't can't resist it's
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was doing everything. Man, the way he was, the way he was
attacking the basket off clothes outs, the way he was playing good d he
was running in transition very smoothly and keeping up with this very athletic team.
Like with Jay n Ivy is pushing the ball up the court, you know,
he was running with it. So he looks like a very good addition.
I'm really excited to see what Quinn Grimes says for this team. Like
Quinn Grimes is the is the guy was the highest on coming in. And
if Fedicini is even better than Grimes in contributing, then this was a very
good trade deadline for the Pistons because they really they really just netted one second
round pick, shifted some players around, and New York is in shambles.
I don't know if you guys have seen New York Twitter, but they are
just in shambles right now. They hate Boyan, and yeah, I know
they'll they'll they'll calm down because they'll realize that, you know, Bogie will
have that game where he shoots seven to eleven from three, especially with all
their injuries, and they'll they'll be fine about it, but this pisses team
in. It's a competent basketball team. You no longer have eight guys that
only do one thing and they only do it pretty decently. You now have
everybody that can play both sides of the ball. You saw a lot of
switchability in that Clippers game. That game was so impressive. I know they
lost that game, I know they blew a big lead, but you look
at this team and you look at this team and they're switchable, like when
Kawhi was attacking, when Kawhi was attacking the screens. The Clippers are the
most ISO heavy team, and that was something that the Pistons struggled with.
They struggled with perimeter isolation defense, and they struggled with the pick and roll,
and those were two things that they looked a lot better at already.
Now you give this team thirty games plus an offseason to get acquainted with each
other, to learn eachar's tendencies, to learn how to work with Duran and
everything. Like man, this team has just been incredible, incredible to watch,
and this is what I had talked about all year. They're going to
get better as the year goes on. That's what happens with young teams.
But also bringing in these new additions, they look good so far. Yeah,
the defensive and their bench rotation looks a lot better already. These,
like you said, these are all long, tall defender, rangy guys that
can go out there. They can play defense on the perimeter and they make
opponents think twice before just easy buckets in the wane like boyon Elec Burks,
those guys were traffic cones. Now you got guys that can actually play some
defense. You still got James Wiseman and his nappy ass hair getting a bunch
of minutes for some reason. But I think this new look Pistons team is
more fun to watch. The spacing on offense is a lot better. Like
Chris talked about, the switch ability on defense makes them a lot tougher on
opposing teams. So I'm happy. I'm happy with what I saw so far,
and that's without arguably having the biggest piece they traded for, the best
piece they traded for. Play a game yet in Quinn Grimes, So when
he goes out there, that's another guy who can shoot, he can defend,
he can switch, and he can do a lot of different things.
So I was excited seeing that it looked like Cade, Sasser and Ivy were
a lot more comfortable working in isolation. When you have guys on the perimeter,
they can shoot threes. Guys on the perimeter that you can kick the
ball out too. Not only can they shoot, but they can pull it
down. They can get in the lane if they really have to. So
the new Pistons they looked better. They're more fun to watch, and they
were playing damn good basketball. I haven't seen them play defense like they did
against the Clippers in like ten years. Yeah, it was you four quatching.
They were up by twelve for the majority of that game. They kinds.
I mean, I don't know what happened for them to lose it.
They just were making shots. Yeah, we're making shots. What happens when
you have three superstars on the other team and you have not on your team.
As much as I like like the new look Pistons, I'm still not
a fan of like that all bench line up that Manzi keeps going out there
like a stagger. You guys stagger, kids, stagger Ivy, No,
you guys do to make sure like you're you're not falling short the second half
those games because you're already young. It's kind of fee like they're already like
the inexperience in itself kind of like gives them a short handle those comeback situations
or like you know, going up against the rally. But the offense is
so much more fluent. I think there's so much more athletic and want to
on defense. The only concern is like, what's just looking like when Stuke
comes back? But my solution to it and obviously not the coach, and
I don't you know, I'm not in the coaches here to make the decision
make him the backup five at that point, because I think the offense the
way that looked without him in there, clogging sit up for the G for
the G it was. It was beautiful, man. And Ivy has been
just playing out of his mind as of late. He's been bawing and one
of the longest streaks in NBA history without missing the three and that was and
that was broken in the first quarter of the Clippers game. It was the
longest, I believe in Piston, Yeah, twelve in a row, twelve
in a row, and it has a little step back to little little bitch
this she was nasty, And this team just has so much. That's why
I like these young guys is because you know, yeah, they are all
different, but they bring something. They bring something like Ivy when he gets
a rebound, he can just go coast to coast and that's just an element,
that's just an added possession. Then you have kid that can that can
you know, bring the ball up, work the icell, pick and roll
and mismatch hunt like, you have all these different ways to score. Duran's
offensive leap like, he's been way better statistically at finishing around the rim.
He's been way more efficient with his ball handling, with his passing, Like,
all of these players are taking strides, and it's no coincidence that it's
aligning with a roster that's more fit for modern basketball today. So this is
this is as excited as I am. This is an indictment on Troy Weaver
and the front office that they didn't do this earlier, because this right here
looks like a team that could be competing for the play in obviously with how
far beyond it behind the eight ball they're not. But this roster opening day,
Yeah, this looks like a playing roster. And I sent a graphic
on It's all right if you don't have it, Chris, because I did
just send it last segment, but I got Kevin O'Connell put a list out
there of the top ten isolation scorers in the NBA per Metrics, and Jade
and Ivy was number five on that list. J Cuddy so far this year
has been a top five isolation scorer in the NBA. And when you put
a guy like that out there who can get past anybody, he's been stroking
that thing pause from three, and you put shooters around him. You put
Feuccini out there, you put sas So, you put Kid, you put
Grimes, you put these guys who can knock down threes and a freak athlete
lob threat and Jalen Durham down in the middle. That makes it that much
better. That is that James Harden esque offense we saw in Houston when they
were going out there and they're giving teams one hundred and forty five points a
night because James Harden was running ISO, he had a lob threat and click
Capella and shooters everywhere else, So Jade and Ivy can do that. He
can run that type of offense for the Pistons. Caid can do the same.
And the difference between this team and those teams is this team is playing
defense so far. And yeah, here are the top five isolation scorers.
They're ranked by points per ISO minimum of sixty possessions. Jaye and Ivy number
five on that list. Listen to the names. He's behind Kawhi Leonard de
Jontay Murray who's having a fantastic gear shake, Gilges Alexander who's a top three
scorer in the NBA, and Steph Curry, and then Jade and Ivy's number
five and Terse Haliburton and Nikola Jokic probably two of the top five MVP voters
so far. Like, this is a fantastic list to be on, and
it's extremely impressive to see what he can do. And like I said,
they are opening the floor up for him. They're opening this spacing up for
more isolation plays with guys like Kid Cunningham, Jade and Ivy and Marcus Sasser
at the ball in their hands. Yeah, if you just share that flow
with Caden in Ivy you can't have guys clogging it up space. There was
there was two. I don't know if you didn't read that part, but
at the bottom it did say Kid ranked forty six out of sixtieth in the
players that qualify. Yeah, that's it. That's somebody I really expect to
jump with this, because teams were all season. When you have Killian Hayes
and Nasara Thompson out there, you're sending three people, four people. In
the case of Duran as well, you're sending three four defenders at Kid and
he was getting tough look after tough look. So this is something that's really
going to help Kate Cunningham. We're seeing Ivy thrive in it. But I've
always had confidence in Ivy's ability to ISO score, and I think Caid's an
even better score than Ivy, especially especially as as a in the mid range
game. So I think that this is something that you're gonna see Kid really
jump up. And if Ivy maintains this level and you have two very good
isolations scores, plus you have what the intangibles that Sar offer, that Duran
offer, and the shooting and the bench, like this is a this is
a team, man and Sasser is one of the top ten shooters in the
NBA right now from three point. Like, this team is really really good
with a lot of young talent. That's very promising. There's a reason that
despite the twenty eight game losing streak, guys like Jason Tatum, Kevin Durant,
the real ball knowers in the NBA are saying, I don't know how
this team is losing that many games. This team is good. How many
times do we hear Paul George talk about kid's got a bright future, Westbrook
saying Ivy's got a bright future. People saying Durren could be the best center
in the league. Like all the players around the NBA are very high on
these guys. They have a lot of young talent, and now they're finally
putting a roster around it that allows them to thrive and gigglestick. No,
the Pistons also a funny name. The Pistons did not become a contender overnight,
but they revamped their bench rotation and their supporting cast of guys who can
play defense, who can switch on defense, and who can shoot the ball,
which is, like Chris mentioned, it a lot better for modern basketball
Yeah, we've been waiting all season for the team to be at least watchable,
and now the last three games it's been fun. You know, it's
actually I've enjoyed watching these games and seen the growth. Feels like night and
day. But the biggest thing for me, I didn't even know that stat
on Ivy was just strictly eye tested me. And even just in these last
couple of games, it looks like Caid's gotten more open looks because of Ivy
driving and I think that needs to keep up and this game and then when
we talk about Fed, he's got sneaky athletics, honestly, and that's what
we needed because he's yes, because he's pumped, baking off the rip,
talking people like this is what we needed, a little spark from the bench
on this team. I wasn't too high on the guy. I didn't know
much. I thought he was just a straight shooter. I wasn't hating.
It was a little bit. I didn't say this guy sucks, said I
said this guy, I said, this guy can shoot from three. But
yeah, I am excited Grin is gonna bring. I'm excited. My question
for you guys, when Grimes Grimes comes back. Do you think he's starting?
I think so at the three I do. And then with shooting around,
who's playing the four here? I think Ferduccini plays four. I wouldn't
mind that at all because then you have Caden. I think it would be
Fini and Duran. I think that would be your best starting like that,
and then have Sasser a sore and a four Fournier come off, except in
the second half he started breakings, shake mill muscala Is. The Scot's got
to be Muscola could started, Yeah, Mussola could start, and then you
could have come off the bench with the bench back. But oh no is
they got a lot of long guys who could play defensive, shoot, So
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deal? Speaking of the real deal, the Detroit Red Wings. But honestly,
the Detroit Red Wings are the real deal. They are the team this
year that is going to make the playoffs. Outside of the Lions. They
they are the hope for Detroit to get some playoff games in LCA, and
right now they're in that position. Right now, they're in that position.
They are in the playoffs. If it started right now, the Red Wings
would make it. So I love that so far. They got a big
win, big win versus the Canucks at home where they came back from three
to one in the third period to win by a shootout I'm sorry, a
penalty shot in overtime by Jake Wallman. It was a great game to brink
it drop the gloves again and they ended up coming back. Like I said,
they scored two in the third period and then I mean he fought a
big guy. You know, you didn't get it was just that everybody started
getting a little chippy. Huh the Ottawa what about the Lake goal? Oh,
we'll talk about that. We're talking about the Red Wings because the Red
Wings are ready to go. The Red Wings are ready to make this playoffs.
And Steve Eisman is going to be a buyer. Steve Eiserman is gonna
buy the deadline what and I think he's gonna poach another player off the Ottawa
senator. I think Chickeren is gonna be a Red Wing for the playoff push.
I think they're gonna go out there, bring in chicken have him be
there one of their top four defenders. You're probably gonna have to give up
Johnny Bergers and somebody else as a prospect to get him. But Ottawa likes
Johnny Bergers a lot, and Chickrin has made it known that he wants to
get out of there. So if you bring in a guy like that to
sure up that first four defense, you have Lion playing very well and this
offense clicking. Patrick Kin's coming back. He is lifted off ir I expect
this Red Wings team to make the playoffs, and I expect him to make
some noise in the playoffs. I expect him to win a couple of games,
even a series in the playoffs because this is a tough, tough,
scrappy team with great, great offense. They have one of the best power
players in the NHL, and now they've got a goalie who's standing on his
fucking head most Knights. So you can if you can go out there and
get Chickern bring him in here, that will make you probably you could probably
jump past Toronto in that playoff race if you go out and get Chickering.
So you're going starting a tough, tough West Coast road trip pretty soon.
But I'm excited to see what the Red Lacks could do. Nick, how
you feeling for them? Things coming up? I'm feeling really good about the
Red Wings. And one thing that you said is I don't know if Steve
is ready to buy all in, but I certainly hope that he does,
because we have guys behind Bergran like Casper, like Danilson Maser, elite talent
that we should be willing to give up on a prospect. Now that's twenty
three, he should be NHL ready, but he cannot make this roster right
now. Yeah, and I believe that's why he's still down with the Grand
Ripids or Grand Rapids Griffins. But I would be willing to give up on
a guy like Bergran to bring in elite talent on the d line because that's
what this team needs. I would. I would as well. I think
you look at it, and like you said, I think you got three
forwards that are going to be better than Bergran, with Maser, with Casper
and with Polinka on top of that, you need that top four defenseman this
year, and I would. I thought it was going to be Simon Evanson
before the season started, but it's not looking like it's going to be him.
So if you can go out and you can get a chicker in to
bring in here and pair him with the gossip Spear, that would be a
great pairing because obviously gossip Spear struggles a little bit in the defensive zone,
Chickering can make up for that on top of being a very good offensive defenseman
as well. I think he would be perfect. And the next year,
when you're really trying to make the push, you have Evanson, you bring
Evanson up, and that first four of Mo Wallman, Chickrien and Evanson would
be nasty. So I would be willing to give up. I love Johnny
Bergers, like I've talked about him for the past couple years. I love
him. I love what he can do. Every time he's brought up to
the wings, he makes something happen, like he scores goals. But you
got three guys behind him, I think as forward prospects that have more potential.
I think this Polinka can it is gonna be a fucking stud, actually
like a stud the Swede. Yeah, yeah, he's got one absolute stud.
Him on the power play put him at the UH put him at the
circle like one timers for days, Like I mean, just a ridiculous comparison
here, but we're talking hockey, and I love it. He's like Ov
with the one timer. No, seriously, his highlights are insane. But
the thing to me, we've been absolutely dominating in January and into February with
his first game here. But we have a super tough five game stretch here.
Yeah, we got at Oilers, at Canucks, at Calgary, at
Seattle and then hosting the Avalanche. What do you think that the Red Wings
can go in this five game stretch? I think they need to at least
get three three dubs here. Yeah, I think I'm gonna say, but
if you're a playoff team, I was gonna say, you need to get
six points at the very least. You need to get six points. I
would like eight, but you need to get six at least, and I
think they can. We saw them do this last year. The same fucking
exact thing happened last year where they had a West Coast Canada road trip.
They went out there and they swept it. And if it wasn't for ras
Musen getting hurt, that team was flying high and they would have made a
harder push into the playoffs. But rass Musen got hurt. They lost a
bunch of momentum after that road trip. I think they can do the same
thing. I think they can do the same thing. Like we've played hard
with Edmonton this year. I think we can go out there and get a
dub there. You need six points on this road trip. At the very
least, they always play up and be honest with you like that. I
think it's more of a season defining I guess stretch not because like the caliber
teams are playing. But we saw last year Stevie WiLAN they did too great.
I think it was against Boston and Toronto. We we bombed against and
then he started with a deadline. It was too straight at Ottawa. Yeah,
is that what it was. Yeah, we had two games Otawa.
We got bullied because the Ras got I was just thinking Boston because that's where
the name got traded. But for the same reason though, this is like
four stretch. They got to prove to Stevie they're worth buying into. Yeah,
exactly, I think that's a great point. They're easy and one thing
I've been keeping my eye on all season is where this playoff run or where
their odds are to make the playoffs, And currently they are minus one fifty
to make the playoffs. That is the highest it's been all season long,
and I mean, I just love to see it. So hopefully they do
continue to prove that to Stevie that they're worth buying into. And Blake Spenmo
said, watch out for how do you pronounce the name chickeran chickering chick?
And Davers says this is only Evanson's second year in Ahl Spencer, He's very
far away from endanger being not the being the guy. I didn't say that.
I don't think he's going to be the guy. I just said I
thought he was going to be the guy this year and he wasn't. But
I still think the kid's going to be a stud man and going forward,
Yeah, it's it's going to be a tough road trip. Man. If
you can get six points out of this road trip, that is a win.
That is a win. And I really think they can. I really
think they can with the way they're playing, with the way Alex Lion is
playing in that fucking netman, he's been playing lights out, wall of pillows
back there, so I'm excited to see what they can do on the road.
They're gonna be playing some tough teams, but that's what you gotta do.
Like like, if you want to be a playoff team, you gotta
beat fucking playoff teams. And you're going out there. You're gonna play three
play for four playoff teams, and the East is not slowing down for anybody,
So you're gonna have to keep picking up points because the East is loaded,
and if you want to stay in contention, you're gonna have to get
those tough points on the road, and I do think they can last question
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ask Chris he posts on a story. Yeah, Chris every day, almost
every day. No, he's snaps of the best. Yeah, all right,
let's see here. Mail bag. Eduardo O'Neill draft question for you last
year, knowing that we what we know. If six Anderson was there,
do you grab him over Gibbs. And if you do that, who do
you grab at eighteen? Gibbs or Laporta? Uh? Yeah, I would
grab Anderson over him. And I don't know if Gibbs would be there at
eighteen. I don't know if either of those guys would be there at eighteen,
but if they both were, I would take Gibbs. What was the
question, You're taking Anderson at six if he's there? And then if so,
who would you take between Laporta and Gibbs at eighteen in a redraft?
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Mail bag Spencer, How excited are you that Michigan State beat Illinois? I'm
so pumped up about this team. It's a great win. It's a great
win. It's aj Hogard masterclass. Like this is what we expected Hoguard to
be doing this year. Maybe not every night, going for twenty plus,
but he looked confident. He was making shots, he was getting to the
lane using his big body. I loved it. That is a big win.
That's a Q one win, like, I you needed that really to
cement now. I don't think they're gonna be one of those you know,
first four games where it's the two teams that win to go to the bracket.
I don't think. I think they're gonna have a cemented spot going forward,
whether they're a seven and a six, whatever they end up being.
I do think this is the game that cemented them outside of that spot.
So it was a great win. It was fun to watch. They look
great. Uh the way fan Trey Augustine and the Spartans won the duel and
the d he's looking great too. Yeah, Trey Augustine is the future for
Red Wings goaltenders. He is a stud man, Spartan dog, hometown kid.
Like, this kid is gonna be great, great, He is gonna
vault Kosa. I think gold medal, Yeah, gold medal as well.
Kid's monster exact opposite and my guy Edminson. Huh, can't be how much
you hate my guy? Yeah? I can't believe. I can't believe it.
Who would you rather have a jersey of Evanson? A golf Evanson hockey
jerseys are just better? That is fair. The Red Blinks have one of
the most iconic jerseys of all time, and hockey jerseys are my favorite jerseys
too, where Like normally I gotta get a new Red Wings jersey, though
I still the only Red Wins jersey I have is that dot su siderman all
day I would get Yeah, I dude, I want to get a trade
august In Jersey. I want to kind of wait out and get a tree
Augusteen Jersey. That's gonna be a wow for love of being like a you
know guy from here, Woman's Larkin. Yeah, cop, we got a
lot of Michigan guys to brink it. Yeah, actually probably to bring it
because he's like, I want to go there. I want to go back.
I want to go back home. No, same cheeks. I want
to go home. Today's arm day. Who is your free agent or draft
pick gotta have for the Lions? Yeah mm hmm. I mean I kind
of want to just roll with the Neil hunter man. That would be the
best case scenario for me. I think you could get him on a one
two year deal because he's gonna want to win a Super Bowl. I really
do best free agent defensive tackles. I mean, am I allowed to say
Christians or no? Because like not like a realistic one. You can say
if you want to, if you want, uh, Steve O baby mail
bag Spencer rate on a scale of one to ten on Easy's driving skills.
He's a good driver, yeah, speaking good driver to ten. He hates
the roundabouts. I hate roundabouts, man, they just sketched me out like
and there's like five of them in a row. When we were going to
Terry's. That ship is pissing me off. And then the easiest way home
on the way to Terry's it had me getting on and getting off like six
different freeways, taking a bunch of roundabouts. The way home was just one
street to six ninety six. I was like, dude, what the fuck?
Why did it make me do all this bullshit? What's the verdict in
Chris's job? Is you keeping it? Oh? What is it? One
fifties? Yeah? How likes like you can see Chris's face tomorrow. We
are at one o five. Funny Chris, dudude got twenty four hour like
window or in fair enough. I think that's just it for me. All
right, man, catch Chris and the wrap please you to plug the time
and stuff like that. Easy's hitting Skills that's awful. What do you mean
by every Saturday baseball? Oh yeah, no, I got I got easier
with a nasty change up with the Punchki shruck them out. Is it past
fast Tuesday? Huh? Tomorrow tomorrow? I know they were doing some event
down at Eastern Market or a couple tomorrow. Yeah, I'm down, dude.
Are you working with Chris? Uh? Yeah, Punchki suck. I'm
putting that out there now. I hate Creamfield anything pause except for shoddy with
a little but relax, relax, trying to get the body's drag through the
streets. But Punchy suck because jelly fill cream Field, no thanks, Custard
sucks in general. Like I don't like Boston cream dogs either. Yeah,
you're wow for that one. The jelly one sucked the most. Cream I
would much rather have a jelly one than a cream On discussing cream one,
I feel like not like just forgetting its fat Tuesday, You're going to work
and like somebody picked off like a dozen of them. I'm definitely smacking somebody
when it's the best. When you didn't eat breakfast, you see a doughnut.
Somebody hooked the boys up with the punchki Cony's con Yeah, it's like
a punski cut in half with the Cony dog in it. That's the most
detroit shit ever. That one sounds a little gnarly. It'd be better than
a regular Cony review. Would you do a punski beer? I saw a
Canoli filled punski. Now that would be fucking good, dude, like the
filling of a Yeah, but that's better. It's not like the it's a
different texture. What are we doing. It's a way different texture. What
are we doing? Like custard is like putting. That's just gross. Pudding
sucks, dude. Do you remember your forty time from high school? My
forty time in high school? I think it was a five to two.
I think that was at mine too. Yeah, yeah, we get to
forty here, boys, maybe you'd be drunking off a race Chris's friend.
That was so that was wild. But that'll do it for us today.
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