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Oh years books, it should die. People pay good money to see this

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movie. When they go out to
a theater, they want cold sodas,

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hot popcorn, and no monsters in
the projection booth. Everyone for tend.

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Podcasting isn't boring, No off,
tell us Royal, who are your heroes?

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That's easy? You know the legends
of people have paved the way that

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came before me. You know we're
talking about Johnny cash Merle Haggard. If

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I had to choose anyone, I
guess it's being George Jones. Happened.

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Recording artist Chial Brooks, it's good, Let's go again? Why will we

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go again? That was good?
That was never the best one? Just

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warming up? You open number one
record in a right now, I'm tru

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Brooks. Oh my god, you
are staying with the time so much,

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but you've become timeless. God,
he smiled down on me. You know,

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we're all just really glad to have
you home for a while. Dear

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Troy. I would like to invite
you to Nashville next weekend if you're free.

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I'm taking a very extended vacation soon, and it would be an owner

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if I could meet you before I
go. Best George Jones. Mister Jones,

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it's not over for here. It's
not over for anyone until it's over,

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and it ain't over yet. This
is an old man that's washed up.

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He's trying to get what you got. There's true things that are terrible,

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and there are terrible things that are
true. You musician, hell's all.

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It's Nashville. Everybody down. Here's
a musician and singing all my life,

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but I did't. Nobody found me
yet. It is a damn beautiful

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wild It doesn't matter if you are
number one or number one million anymore.

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You can hear it as songs.
But come on face to face with him,

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that's when you really realize that he's
in pain. Hey George, Hey,

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folks, will do a special episode
of the Projection Booth. I'm your

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host Mike White. On this episode, I'm talking to Mickey Reese, is

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the director, writer, and star
of the recent film Country Gold. When

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it was proposed that I speak to
the director of a surreal, comic and

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musical film, I said, sure, let's do it up. The film

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should be available for you now to
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Enjoyed the movie, and I hope
you enjoyed the interview. You are

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a very prolific guy. Actually,
I didn't realize that I had one of

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your movies on my watch list forever. I've been trying to find Strike Dear

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Mistress and Cure his Heart since I
came out in twenty eighteen. Yeah,

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it's on the Alamo on Demands.
All right, great, I will definitely

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check that out. I really liked
that one. That was an early one

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before we started working with Cruise and
making quote unquote real movies. So it's

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still has that very low budget aesthetic. A love Michael, but no budget.

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Let's say no budget. You're from
Oklahoma, set right. I never

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realized that they had such a film
scene out there until I went to Kansas

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and attended film festivals out there.
Well, we've got the tax rebate.

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We've got a pretty big tax rebate
here. It's like New Mexico or Atlanta,

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like in that vein. I mean, let's see, we got kill

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into the Blower Moon here. We
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So yeah, we've got some cool
stuff. It's coming up. So

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how about you, where do you
fit into this whole scene? Now?

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And you talked about working with real
cruise. How long has that been going

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on? The first time I worked
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head sung in every department was Climate
of the Hunter. So that was the

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way directly after Strike Your Mistress.
So we've done Climate the Hunter and Agnes

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and now Country Gold. I see
full Groves. I mean, you know,

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like having ten people, it's not
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or anything. And the crew that
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crane and a dolly and all that
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we've got we got little tracks we
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Talk to me about Country Gold.
Where did the idea for this one

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come from? Before the movie?
Before Strike your Mistress was called Alien.

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It's like reimagining him, but Elvis
Pressley, Elvis and Priscilla's kind of like

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tumultuous marriage, and it was mostly
interested in just capturing the kind of like

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the American iconography of Elvis and just
how in a black and white setting of

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just because essentially you put anybody in
an Elvis costume and everybody's going to go,

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that's Elvis, do you know what
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the same situation. It was like, we want to make another movie like

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that, this alternate history situation,
like going off like who could it be?

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Who could be the next one.
We're still trying to figure that out

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now because I'm trying to make three
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out of it. When Garth Brooks
was said, it was like, that's

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perfect because he's always He's got that
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and the black cowboy hat and it's
just you look at that album and you're

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like, Bastard Brooks. Anybody could
play Garth Brooks because he's about the clearly

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it's good Brooks. He's got the
shirt in the hat on. Filling in

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black and white gives you a license
to just where every image can look iconic.

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More like finding the character, like
the character is Garth Brooks. It's

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not necessarily have to have anything to
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this is the character, the look
of Garth Brooks, and then we're putting

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him into an iconic seventies movie or
something like that, like he's a star.

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Where did you find your main actor? Ben Hall, the guy who

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play Yarn shows so he's in climate
of the Hunt. You're and Agnes and

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we've been working together for a bit
now, we've made I guess four movies

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together, and he's just fantastic and
just basically like he's the secret weapon.

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He's the secret sauce and all of
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secret. Just all right, so
this movie, who has been Hall gonna

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play? That's how it's been.
And your other main character, like,

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he's the one who looks very familiar
to me. You're talking about the guy

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playing Troll Brooks. Yeah, let's
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It was not I didn't sign up
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not my attention. Necessarily the gentleman
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like, didn't really work out on
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him, and so I was like, I can look like Arthur, is

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it really a pitcher? Was like
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Ben Hall. He needed to be
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He's not a huge guy. So
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and tall and then been haulbing that. So it was like, all right,

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I'll go ahead and take the reins. I'll do it. I can

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put a cowboy hat on the Barth
shot, like I said, anybody can

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and look like Garth Brooks. So
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do that. And then I just
played it like I thought Mason, the

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gentleman that I originally wanted would have
played it, which is he's got this

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kind of like very cocky, like
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kind of confidence that can easily be
broken down and easily be turned into someone

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humble. And so I was trying
to channel that. I'm not really an

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actor, but I've always thought most
times, but you just need someone that

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can talk in front of the camera
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in that way. And so that
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all right, to be the standout
or anything, I just need to move

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the picture. Because Ben Hall,
he's the actor, He's the one who

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needs to shine. I just need
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So that's how I tick that approach. So how did the project come

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together. I talked to some local
finance seers. I talked to some people

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with money. We didn't do too
much money. But I talked to some

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friends and some people that Epp the
put in for movies before we got the

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funding together, and then it was
like, all right, team, we're

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gonna make this. Split the difference
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goes, and whip for it.
Honestly, Now, like preparing another movie,

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you asking that question, I am
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We'll remember. It was a whirlwind, the whole thing, just like we

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started seeing all right, we're gonna
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all the motions and then eventually we're
on set. Hard to like imagine all

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of the things we went through,
But I'm about to go through it again.

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So I bet you I could answer
this question better in a couple months,

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and then I'd be like, oh, yeah, I remember all the

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things we had to do. Well, we've made so many movies. I'm

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surmmarized that you don't have it down
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every movie is different, because if
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it might be easier. But whenever
you're getting interested from the more from

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the horror world, from the genre
world, and having so your money coming

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from that, and then you announced
that you want to make a black and

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white comedy about some country singers,
but the well dries up rope wicks.

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You got to start from square one. Tell me about your cinematographer, because

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the movie looks fantastic. That's Sam
Calvin is a godsend. We first worked

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together on a movie called Arrows Arrows
ab Outrageous for Chune and it was because

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some mumblecore movie, but basically we
shot it like where in the vein of

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like, all right, we're not
going to use any lights. There's no

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lights in this movie. And it
was me warming up to using a cinematographer,

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especially one who was experienced like Sam, because I was just like,

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I don't want to go into a
big project and do not know what the

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hell I'm doing as far as directing
a cinematographer. But it turns out they

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don't really have to when they're good. Then he shot Climate and he shot

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Agnes and this is our fourth thing
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just he's a local CINM photographer here, cinematographer here in Oklahoma, and he

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is great and we just like really
see eyed eye and have a lot of

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the same similar interests and kind of
the same favorite movies. February of twenty

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twenty one. We had yet to
get the vaccine or anything. You're still

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mid pandemic a little right the heart
of COVID. Yeah, oh man,

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how did that affect you? It
was just annoying. Just having to wear

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masks is annoying when you're like trying
to make a movie, especially when you're

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an actor. Can having the mask
on and like, all right, take

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it off, now it's time to
shoot. And did a short kind of

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roll out of Reservation Dogs, which
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was during COVID and just cadn't imagine. It just seems so much worse to

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have a crew that size and everybody's
got to abide by these COVID rules.

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Obviously we did all the COVID stuff
and yeah, I think that's the only

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thing. It's just so I'm not
saying it's unnecessary. It was certainly necessary

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time, but no one wanted to
get COVID. But it was just like,

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ah, this would be better if
we didn't have to do this,

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especially having shot your entire life without
it, and now it's the masks are

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annoying, A big deal, small
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that's good. You're putting together all
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as well. Yeah to being in
the s I hope we don't have to

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do it again. I'm not sure
what the rules are now because we haven't

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charged movie system, but I'm not
sure what the SAG rules are if you're

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supposed to continue wearing masks or not. But and hopefully not like to get

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back to making movies the way I'm
used to. There's a challenge every day,

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but they're usually small challenges, especially
with this one. This I had

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to blast on this one. I
think everybody had a really good time on

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this when the morale was always very
hot because and also just god, making

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a comedy it's just so much more
fun. It's just so much easier for

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everybody, is saying a good mood
when you're making something funny. The way

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that you bring the comedy out in
so many different ways, Like the first

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time you had a segment where you
introduce animation, I'm like, Okay,

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I didn't really see this coming,
but this works. The trick is for

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me, it's to not write jokes. There's no jokes written. It's just

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like the scenario. The situations we're
creating are so absurd that it's it's easy

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to mind comedy from. So I
think writing jokes is where I think I'd

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be terrible at. But I think
even watching movies, I'm just like,

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f I don't like it when they
write jokes because especially when they're not funny,

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because then it's just forced. And
so I try not to have any

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jokes written in there. So like
when you're reading it, you're thinking you're

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reading a drama, and then you
get there and on the day and everything's

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so ridiculous. It's like, oh
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soon as those little kids start talking
with the slowed down voices, I'm like,

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Okay, yeah, this really works
for me. Yeah, but there's

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no jokes written. No, they're
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say. You've got another co writer
credit on this, John Selfage. Can

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you tell me a little bit about
him? Yeah, John Slis and I

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we've written a lot of movies together
hand, but we've written the last three

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for sure. He co wrote Climbing
the Hunter with me and act and this

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one. We've actually written like three
other scripts since then and they're just like

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making their way around development health.
But yeah, he's just great. He

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just knows how to add like the
layers that I need that I wouldn't be

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able to add otherwise, you know
what I mean. It's like like I'm

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the ceiling one that will be like, hey, let's do all this greatest.

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Definitely he'll ground it for me.
So it's a really good partnership.

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But also he's educated and I'm not. And that so why George Jones of

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all country legends, we're trying to
think of who the other person could be

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in that Garth is embarking on this
mission with, and it's George Jones.

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For me was the kind of the
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like he wasn't this great like Burrow
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also they didn't seem as I feel
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artists, do you know what I
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of guy that Garth would look up
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we've found an interview where he that
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movie where he does mention George Jones
being a hero with his but it just

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didn't have as much weight on it
as this does. But yeah, it

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just seemed like the guy that's like
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I thought be fitting, but also
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I though, he doesn't have the
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not his music. Isn't that the
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Johnny Cash does or something to where
those are Those persons are so specific that

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you can't create an alternate character for
And then you've got Michael Shannon out there

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basically doing your leg work and prepping
the audience for Here's Who George Jones is.

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Yeah, and I've not seen that
show yet, but I'm sure it's

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fantastic, But that one is probably, I would imagine, closer to the

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real thing than ours. So I
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Now what's the next step for it? So it's doing the years right

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now. I think we did oh
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something like that. We did San
France, Chicago, and Denver. Last

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night tonight, I'm actually doing Oklahoma
City, and I'm very excited about that

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and doing Tulsa tomorrow, then Dallas
Sunday, and then it's doing a bunch

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of other day. It's one in
the whole Wakage on Sunday too, so

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they on Tuesday a before it comes
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And then you said you were already
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on the next one. Yeah,
it's called The Cool Tenor. It's about

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a retired widow weds an unstable jazz
enthusiasts who becomes obsessed with avenging the widow's

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late husband's death. It's a revenge
thriller with or drama, a lot of

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comedy and love story and a little
bit of sci fi. Mickey, thank

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you so much for your time.
This was great talking with you. They

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thank you, Mike, and I
look forward to seeing the next one.

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And I look forward now to going
back and checking out Strike your Mistress cures

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Art. Oh, I'd love you
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and he had him still he brew
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down, and then can tell him
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pleasing back his corns. Queen,
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and revenue is too searching for pleases
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trying to book him up a pappocam
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happy wight ain't called his brow?
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I still got a little sipping right
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out in my face turned blue lighting
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I'm tough. I think I want
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took once his look and he dranking
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moaning as he hid the wool ground
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corns please shoo the GMM team and
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