1 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,600 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,160 David Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,160 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love to 4 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,920 hear from you. Molly, how are you doing? I'm doing great. 5 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:36,799 David, why do you ask? You don't sound like you're doing great. 6 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,240 I feel Oh, I'm really not feeling well. Yeah, I'm sick. 7 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:43,439 I just wanted to tee you up for that. I might, I might 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,479 not make any sense during this podcast more than normal, So the usual. 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,280 I'm in there. Well, let's start today by talking about a Supreme Court 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,840 decision that just came down as we were preparing for the show, Murphy v. 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,159 Missouri, which is a I think a pretty important free speech case. 12 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,840 Do you want to explain a little about what it was about. Yeah, 13 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,079 I actually think we should maybe do a show at the end of the Supreme 14 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Court term where we go through all of the important cases this term and just 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,840 kind of revisit what happened on the court, what the left's attacks were on 16 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:23,239 the court. Super important case Murthy v. Missouri, which was formerly named 17 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:30,719 Missouri v. Biden I think dealt with a wide ranging censorship scheme engaged in 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,760 by the federal government against people who said things that the regime did not agree 19 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,280 with. It was a case looking at, you know, mostly how on 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:49,200 the basis of COVID debate, our government silenced people from saying things that criticized 21 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,519 or questioned or even like just discussed or debated issues that the government had taken 22 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,280 positions on. It is so important because of the many horrific things that happened 23 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,640 in response to the COVID pandemic, the restrictions on civil liberties and speech were 24 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:08,439 really important. And so there was this case. It went through how all 25 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:15,120 of these people had their First Amendment rights utterly destroyed violated, and it was 26 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:19,319 really important to get the government to stop censoring speech. And so this really 27 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:24,840 really important case. Unfortunately, the only justices on the Court who stood up 28 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,639 for First Amendment rights are Justice Alito who wrote the dissent, Justice Thomas, 29 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,240 who's got a very good track record on the First Amendment, and Justice Gorsuch 30 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 who's also very good on the First Amendment. Amy Coney Barrett worked with Brett 31 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:46,400 Kavanaugh, Chief Justice John Roberts, Alana Kagan, Sonya Soda may Or Taji 32 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Brown Jackson to write the majority decision that the people whose First Amendment rights were 33 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:55,120 violated did not have standing to do anything, thus allowing the government to continue 34 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,400 to destroy the First Amendment. This is a really bad outcome for people who 35 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:05,680 care about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and free speech in general. 36 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,479 Yeah, I haven't been able to look into it. It seems very 37 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:19,240 unfortunate. Hopefully it's just some technical decision on standing and allows maybe another way 38 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,080 to enter it. I don't know. I mean, I haven't read it. 39 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:27,719 That may be true. But justice delayed is justice obliterated. And people 40 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:30,919 needed to be able to debate COVID response at the time that it happened, 41 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,960 not even at this point, but to say, oh, you might have 42 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,319 a means in the future next time. Well not even next time. We 43 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,639 have a government that is engaged in wide spread censorship unlike anything we've experienced in 44 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:50,439 our country, against people who do not share like Democrat party philosophy. It 45 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,840 is constant. It is a very like fascistic thing they're doing. You've got 46 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:00,599 the government agencies working with social media companies, working with outside groups, all 47 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,319 to suppress news and information that the regime does not want you to have. 48 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,599 It's a really like a horrific crisis. This is like republic threatening stuff. 49 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:14,240 And so today's decision is extreme, you know, just just ruling that there's 50 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,319 no standing in particularly that three giants on the Court Alito, Thomas, and 51 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:24,639 Gorsuch didn't agree with these other six does not look good for them. Yeah, 52 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,560 and it is worth also mentioning this constant effort to delegitimize the court and 53 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,639 pretend they're corrupt and that they're Lockstepp being owned by Republicans and Conservatives. It's 54 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,240 so obviously untrue, and yet they'll go back to doing it in the next 55 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,120 case. You know that we discuss when when it doesn't go their way, 56 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,800 but this is it is. I mean, the First Amendment obviously is almost 57 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,399 supremely important in a free society, and not allowing this to go forward is 58 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,800 distressing. And I hope maybe the decision won't be as bad as it was, 59 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,279 but I'm probably, like we said, we have to read it, 60 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,879 so maybe be maybe there'll be some glimmers of hope. But the excerpts I 61 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,199 read from the descent thus far indicated that Alito thought it was just as bad 62 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,319 as it seems. It's bad news. Let's talk about something else. You 63 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:15,240 want to talk about debates that's coming tomorrow. Well, sure, but let's 64 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,600 also just like looking back, we also this morning, well, I guess 65 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,040 some people went to bed with the news, but some people woke up to 66 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:30,519 the news that Jamal Bowman, who is known for saying ridiculous things and conspiracy 67 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:36,000 theories and pulling the fire alarm to stop a vote from happening during Congress, 68 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,360 was that earlier this year, last year, I can't remember, anyway, 69 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:43,959 he lost his reelection bid and he was a Squad member, and there was 70 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,480 a lot of effort put in by the squad to make sure that progressive Jamal 71 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:51,160 Bowman would keep his seat, and he did not keep his seat. I 72 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,319 don't even close right, seventeen point loss I think because of last I saw. 73 00:05:56,399 --> 00:06:00,680 So I'm obviously very happy about this, and so should every patriotic American 74 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:05,800 be. But a lot of hay has been made about how APAC came in 75 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,920 American Israel. What is it called. I don't know. The pro Israel 76 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:17,000 group. I think they dropped like seventeen million dollars into this race. But 77 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,160 the truth is that before they even cut an ad, Bowman was down I 78 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:26,920 believe seventeen points already, which actually it completely comforts from the end results. 79 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,759 But it is funny to me that when first of all, Ape's not be 80 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,519 in a republican group. This is a democratic primary. By the way, 81 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,399 there are two Democrats, and they make it sound like there's some right wing 82 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:45,480 conspiracy, but I mean pro Israel supporters who are American citizens have a right 83 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:49,319 to try to get involved and in foreign policy decisions made by politicians and affect 84 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:53,639 those elections. So I'm happy that APAC got involved. They are the most 85 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,839 kind of lobby milk toast a bipartisan group, like they're not some right wing 86 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,079 I think AOC called them a right wing insurrectionist supporting group, which is nonsensical. 87 00:07:05,519 --> 00:07:11,240 So Bowman isn't just critical of Israel. He was a you know, 88 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:15,439 he said that the rapes that we saw in those videos were just Israeli propaganda. 89 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,360 He was just he's just a Hamas apologist. But aside from all that, 90 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,920 he's really dumb and he held that alarm. But he was a nine 91 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,000 to eleven truth or like there's just like a pile of stuff. I don't 92 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,759 even know, and then he had that Did you see the videos from that 93 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,319 rally he had with AOC and Bernie where he's talking about how the South Bronx 94 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:39,240 is going to show the world. That's not even his district. He's in 95 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,959 the North Bronx in Westchester County, which has tons of Jewish voters who decided 96 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,360 that they didn't want this guy representing them. They're going to vote for another 97 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,839 Democrat, you know, more moderate one. Anyway, I just want to 98 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:51,160 say, I think this is the first time a squad member is actually lost. 99 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:56,759 They've always sort of I think every election basically expanded that progressive faction, 100 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,439 and this might hopefully be uh you know, turn turn that around a bit. 101 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,759 I do wonder what do you think? What do you think? Do 102 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,519 you think that this is any kind of portent to like trouble for Democrats in 103 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,319 general over Israel or do you think this was just kind of like an isolated 104 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,839 incident. I don't know. I think this was good news for Democrats that 105 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,040 this happened. If they had to deal with a Jamal Bowman and they didn't 106 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:30,079 have this kind of brushback pitch uh interesting like they would. It's just it's 107 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:33,000 they've got they've got a problem with their base. They've got a bunch of 108 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,279 anti Israel, even anti Semitic, like radical progressives, and it's increasingly what 109 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,519 the party is. I don't think this guy who won will be that different 110 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,240 on policy, but he'll just sound a little bit more palatable to people. 111 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,759 So I think it was a big win for Democrats. But I did have 112 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:56,320 this thought, like last night, there were all these progressive activists being like, 113 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:03,000 the Jews defeated Bowman, and then people were getting mad that they were 114 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,480 saying that, like it was an anti Semitic trope, and I was like, 115 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,120 I think I think Jews should take credit for it. Absolutely. I 116 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,440 just read a piece doing that exactly. I mean, the idea that Jews 117 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,919 aren't allowed to like get together and try to get rid of a politician who 118 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,080 is, in my view, anti Semitic is insane. And you know this 119 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:26,639 is left wing. Well, left wing groups dropped dark money all over the 120 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:31,039 place. There are people who spent tons trying to destroy the Supreme Court to 121 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:37,679 try to go come into primary Republican races and try to put the more radical 122 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,519 person up so that the Democrats can beat them, Like, is that good 123 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,440 for democracy? It's perfectly legitimate for people to get involved in a race. 124 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,879 I don't even understand, like Chris Hayes is like if APAC didn't come in, 125 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,320 it would be you know, it would have been completely different. Oh, 126 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,159 we hadn't run. If he had run unopposed, he would have won. 127 00:09:54,519 --> 00:10:00,559 Okay, fine, anyway, anyway, that was good news. So 128 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,759 thank you for bringing that up. That cheered me up after that Supreme Court 129 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:09,240 decision. Yeah, you're right, though it does actually moderate the Democratic Party 130 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,799 a little bit. I mean, he was such an embarrassment in so many 131 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:15,879 ways, so probably does help them. And I guess for the country that's 132 00:10:15,879 --> 00:10:18,919 good, right in a way, gets slightly more. I mean, Democrats 133 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,720 are going to win that district no matter what. So and I don't know, 134 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:28,360 we'll have to see what the effect is on the squad caucus, like 135 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,559 will they be more upset at the convention or less upset or what exactly will 136 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,840 happen. But yeah, i'd cut you off because you wanted to talk about 137 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,759 the debate tomorrow. So are you just so excited about the debate? I'm 138 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:43,879 not excited. But so someone asked me the other day I was on the 139 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,879 radio, if I was you know what to look forward to? And I 140 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,360 said nothing, But then I actually thought about it, and this is kind 141 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,519 of entertaining stuff, right. Trump is an entertaining debater. Sometimes he's not 142 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,840 always great. I mean, I think he is a very strong debater in 143 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:58,480 general, but he's not always you know, at the top of his game. 144 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,919 I'd say, but I look for I haven't seen him in action in 145 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,600 a while. Is it like to c him look forward to seeing what Biden 146 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,879 does. Here's one thing that pops into my head every time I think about 147 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:15,519 it. Let me know what you think about this. Expectations for Biden are 148 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 low because he's basically incoherent most of the time, wandering off all that stuff. 149 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,799 Do you think or do you believe that expectations are so low that he's 150 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,320 actually going to do well because he usually shows up for these kind of moments, 151 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,679 or does it not matter? So yesterday I was on the Laura Ingram 152 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:39,279 Show and they were talking about how the Democrats say that what Biden is doing 153 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,039 with his week off of work to prepare for the debate is like going through 154 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:48,000 all these policy books and like do it being on a movie set and reviewing 155 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,879 his answers and there are all these people like in his ear and everything, 156 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,559 and I was like, that may be true, that may be true. 157 00:11:54,759 --> 00:12:01,440 I suspect this week is all about getting the drug cocktail right and all about 158 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:05,600 getting the circadian rhythms in order so that he can be up at nine pm 159 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:11,720 at night until ten thirty pm. I listen. I know people get mad 160 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:13,840 when you say it, but I definitely think he has a little help. 161 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:18,320 Sometimes I would say, you're I think you're definitely right about trying to get 162 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:22,919 him the rest and getting him in in the rhythm to be ready at night. 163 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,559 I don't even care that he's getting help necessarily, but if he weren't, 164 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,919 why would his eyes be like saucers, and why would he be speed 165 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,919 talking like he's high on cocaine. Anyway, Sorry, that actually isn't the 166 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,480 most important part. What I was going to say is I actually think we're 167 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,879 in a really weird moment. We've been in a weird moment for a few 168 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:50,279 cycles now. So normally presidential elections come down like to a lot of voters 169 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:54,559 who can go either way, and they make a decision based on likability, 170 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,960 and so it's really weird that Trump won in twenty sixteen, because his likability 171 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,480 numbers were not good, Like, his favorability numbers were not good. It 172 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,919 is only because he ran against Hillary Clinton that he was able to overcome that. 173 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:13,200 What's interesting is that in twenty twenty, his favorability deficit was much worse, 174 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,879 I think, than it had been in twenty sixteen, and Biden had 175 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,320 pretty good favorable numbers, like he was kind of well liked, and still 176 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Biden only won by like forty thousand votes across three states. It was so 177 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,480 close, given that it should have been a blowout for Biden based on this 178 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:37,279 historic tracking of favorability. Well, now you have a situation where Biden's favorability 179 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,159 gap is even greater than Trump's. So he went from like I don't even 180 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:45,919 know what it is, like six points up on favorability spread to fourteen points 181 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,440 down. He's had a twenty point drop. Trump has come up a little 182 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,120 bit, but like the drop with Biden is epic, and I kind of 183 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:58,679 feel like, at this point, we're five months out or whatever it is, 184 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,440 I don't know, very early, but still I just don't see people's 185 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:07,799 feelings about these two men changing that much. I think the policies are cooked 186 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:13,360 in the personalities are cooked in. We kind of know what it's like to 187 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,399 have a presidency under Donald Trump, we know what it's like to have a 188 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:22,360 presidency under Joe Biden, and it's if they keep it focused on that, 189 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,720 I think that it'll basically be lights out for Biden and Trump will kind of 190 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:31,399 cruise. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think it's weirdly a 191 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,960 debate between two incumbents in some ways, and we all know. I just 192 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,399 for me, I think on the fringes, maybe you change some independent minds 193 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,519 here or there, but I just don't think that any of these debates are 194 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:48,399 going to matter enough to affect the election in a big way. I also 195 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,080 think Donald Trump just needs basically to hold serve. Like, I still don't 196 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,440 believe a lot of the polling that I say. I'm just going to say, 197 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,879 I'm very skeptical about what I'm saying could be true, could could not? 198 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Did fed chair j Pal have a Freudian slip? The watched Out on 199 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,320 Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day, Chris helps unpack the connection 200 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,679 between politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet. How do we 201 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,360 have read hot jobs numbers? While the unemployment rate continues to rise. Jay 202 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,519 Pall admits that payrolls are a bit overstated. 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What you what you mean 211 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:03,879 is if elections were being run like they normally are, the type of polling 212 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:07,600 that we saw ahead of the twenty twenty two election would have resulted in a 213 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:15,480 massive tilting of Congress and Senate to Republicans, and we didn't. That is 214 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,639 not because the polls were wrong. The exit polls matched up with the pre 215 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,679 polls, like everything was pretty much exactly what you would have expected, Like 216 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,960 the difference is that Democrats, and this is an important thing for this cycle 217 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,759 too, because the same thing could happen. Democrats have changed from running from 218 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:37,039 participating in elections as they're done, where you have candidates and they try to 219 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:41,720 persuade voters and you show up to vote based on like enthusiasm, and they 220 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:47,440 engage in ballot trafficking. And in twenty twenty two they picked key Senate and 221 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,679 House races to do ballot traffic, major ballot trafficking operations, and it was 222 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,320 a brilliant strategy, and they will be able to continue doing that in twenty 223 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:03,240 twenty four. The question is whether Republicans have enough of a ballot harvesting operation 224 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,880 to match what Democrats are doing. I don't not even match, but just 225 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,599 to compete. Because if all the Shenanigans of twenty twenty, including the Supreme 226 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,839 Court endorsed censorship regime, resulted in a narrow victory for Biden when he was 227 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,720 beloved in when people had reason to expect he would be moderate, it's going 228 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:27,880 to take a lot more for them to win this time. Well, let 229 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,720 me just concede you're right about that, let's say, But that still doesn't 230 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:37,000 change the fact that the polls. People shouldn't look at those polls and say, 231 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,880 boy, Donald Trump has it in the bag. I mean, if 232 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,039 it's all about ballot you know, getting people ballots in and all that, 233 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,279 Republicans need to do the same thing. I'm not sure that they actually have 234 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:52,200 the ability to do that in some Blueish states. But just because let me 235 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,640 rephrase it, then in a way, I think the polls that show like 236 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:02,039 thirty percent or whatever it is, black support or Jewish support or you know 237 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:06,519 that, I am very skeptical that the people who are participating in those polls 238 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,839 actually will go out and vote for Donald Trump. I've seen this stuff happen 239 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,920 before, and I just don't buy it. What I do buy and I 240 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,400 see is that when you go issue by issue by issue, Donald Trump's up 241 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,240 in trust in everything, the economy, form policy, all of that. 242 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,079 So I'm not saying I think it's his to lose right now, but I'm 243 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:30,319 just saying I wouldn't be as a lot of Republicans are talking like this race 244 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,680 is over, and I just don't think that's true. I think it's been 245 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,799 incredibly close. Absolutely agree with that, So I guess we don't disagree as 246 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:41,279 much as I thought we did based on your buck Sexton thing. I mean, 247 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,920 my point was only that, well don't matter, ballots and boxes matter 248 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,000 exactly. My only point about that was that everyone in twenty twenty two thought, 249 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,680 or many ech people thought that Republicans were going to run away with that 250 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,240 election, that was going to be a wave of election. And it wasn't, 251 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:57,160 and it was massively disappointing, and I think it took a lot of 252 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,319 air out of the Republican Party because the way we're doing elections now is kind 253 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:07,319 of an attack on democratic governance. I would just so like if these were 254 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,640 free and fair elections run like we've always run elections, we would not be 255 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:18,799 seeing some of these same results. Let's talk about another aspect of this I 256 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,359 heard. I don't know if it's true that there's a chance people think that 257 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:29,839 Donald Trump's going to drop the name of his vice presidential canet. Do you 258 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:33,839 think that's true or is there a chance that that might happen. I guess 259 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,799 there's a chance. I would assume he would do it around the convention so 260 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:40,279 he can get as much bang for his buck at the convention. But I 261 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:41,880 don't know who do you think it's going to be though. Well that's the 262 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,759 thing I wanted to talk about. So the names that have come up are 263 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:55,039 JD. Vance, Marco Rubio, Doug Burgham Burgham. Those are the three 264 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:57,279 names I think I've heard most. Are there any other names that you've heard? 265 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,519 Well? I would say that Trump is the master of surprises, so 266 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,720 you should put every name on the table. But I think Marco Rubio might 267 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:14,039 no longer be one of the more talked about ones. So now I feel 268 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:15,880 like it's down to JD and Bergham, And really I kind of think it's 269 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,599 Burgham. Yeah. I mean that's the feeling I get as well. Just 270 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:23,519 you know, I feel like it would be weird. I mean for the 271 00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:26,319 Republican Party. I'm not a fan of JD. Vans, but if they 272 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:30,759 took him away from Ohio, that seems weird, like a weird thing to 273 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,759 do right now. And he doesn't seem like he has a ton of experience. 274 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:38,640 Really, here's my argument on the vice president. I don't think Trump 275 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:44,200 needs some political entity that will bring him more votes. I think he needs 276 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,960 a person who is more in the Cheney style, and I don't mean ideologically, 277 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,599 person who kind of like manages the administration. I think the big problem 278 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,880 with Trump was just looking you know, for Trump fans, what should have 279 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,240 been what they should have seen as the big problem is that there were too 280 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,240 many firing there was too much upheaval. You know, he needs someone to 281 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:07,119 manage that administration, to bring the right people in to keep him focused, 282 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,640 stuff like that. And I don't know that jd Vance or Mark or Ruby 283 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,160 or someone like that's really the person to do that. Well, I don't 284 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,680 know if Doug Bergham's the right person to do that. I don't think that's 285 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,079 another thing I don't wint of experience, you know, enacting conservative governance. 286 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,720 I don't know, it's weird. I don't really care who the VP is. 287 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,400 I, for instance, had always had problems with Mike Pence going back 288 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,880 to like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen when he was bad on the Religious Freedom 289 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Restoration Act issue in Indiana. So when but when he was picked, it 290 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,759 was like that seems like a smart pick. So I can separate my personal 291 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:49,759 feelings from whether I think something is a good pick or not. Personally, 292 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:52,640 I actually love JD. Vance. I think he's got, I think he's 293 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,480 brilliant. I think he's got a great mix of experience. I think he's 294 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:03,039 he's a very good strategy thinker, and he would be great at implementation. 295 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,240 So personally, that's who I would love. I what I see in the 296 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:11,279 Burgham pick is this is someone it's also kind of a danger. This is 297 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:18,079 someone who unquestionably like helps unite the Republican Party without going down the Nikki Hayley 298 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:25,599 route, which would be very toxic for a lot of people. He has 299 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,960 a ton of money that would be helpful in a race where you're taking on 300 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,200 a corrupt regime. And he does a really good job of talking to the 301 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,039 media, not as good as jd Vance. Jd Vance is like awesome, 302 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,799 and he understands like he's just a brilliant person. I really like listening to 303 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,920 him and would love to have him in a high position like VP or president. 304 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:51,519 But I don't know. I just kind of feel like I just I've 305 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:53,039 just said I sense for a while. I think I was the first person 306 00:22:53,119 --> 00:23:00,799 on Special Report to put money on Doug Bergham for candidate Casino that we do 307 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119 this game where you put like one hundred dollars in chips on different people for 308 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,640 who's going to be the nominee or who's going to be the vice president. 309 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:10,000 And I think I was the first person to put it on Bergham, So 310 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,960 there you go. Funny thing is, I don't really know much about Bergham. 311 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,960 I think, like, esthetically, he seems like a like a moderate 312 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,920 guy, and but but I've been told that he has you know, he's 313 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,920 been sort of on the left on many issues in yeah stuff, he's not 314 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:30,039 so is jd Vance. And you know, I think Jdvance would be disastrous 315 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,519 for the GOP. It's just his left wing economic policies would turn off the 316 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,000 entire middle class. But I don't want to argue about jd Vance right, 317 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Oh he's terrible. I mean the other day he said that he had felt 318 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,720 kinship to Bernie Bros. That was the closest he felt kinship to Bernie Bros. 319 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:49,759 Because his ideas on the economy are awful. He meant that they see 320 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,559 a system that's broken and corrupt, and so do a lot of people on 321 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,880 the right. I could see whatever they want. That doesn't mean that basic 322 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,400 economic h you know, Irice fixing or the things that he is behind are 323 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,559 useful in America. But I don't really want to argue, I just want 324 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,920 to talk about the politics right now, and I don't know how jd Vance 325 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,079 is or isn't a market like in your perfect world, who would you like? 326 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,400 That's the thing. I don't really Let me put it this way, 327 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,279 Donald Trump should should actually put someone there who will uphold his vision for the 328 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,079 country, right who you know, he's for tariffs and all that. Yeah, 329 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,359 maybe jd Vance is better to implement those things. In my view, 330 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,119 I don't know. I'm like you, I don't think it matters. I 331 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,839 think after a week, no one cares who the vice president is, you 332 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,200 know what I mean. And it used to be that the vice president was 333 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,279 sort of the heir apparent, so you'd pick someone like, you know, 334 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Al Gore or whatever who would run next time, And that hasn't really been 335 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,680 the case since bushed. I mean, I don't think Obama Obama so Biden 336 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,559 running for president in the future. It was more like just to make him 337 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:56,240 look more moderate for president. Yeah, I'm not sure that's why that's why 338 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:00,640 Trump picked him. I'm not sure he was sort of a Maga type to 339 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,039 begin with, But any event, I you know, I don't know. 340 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,079 I think you're right though, Trump might go just off the board and pick 341 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:14,720 someone we don't expect who knows so on the debate, though, I remember 342 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720 the first debate in twenty twenty was the worst debate I'd ever seen in my 343 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,640 life. It was just awful. The moderator was awful, both candidates were 344 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,400 awful. Trump was hospitalized with COVID a few days later. Make of it 345 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,079 what you will, and I hated that debate. The second debate was actually 346 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,720 all right, except it was hosted by this Democrat activist, Kristen Welker. 347 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:40,200 I'm so sick to death of debates being hosted by activists. I can't even 348 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:45,000 remember, like the last time a presidential debate was moderated by non activists. 349 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:51,039 It's frustrat we talk about that for a second. So you have Tapper is 350 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,160 going to be First of all, there was this CNN interview and I forget 351 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,319 the woman's name, who was like a Trump surrogate, was on speaking to 352 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,759 case Hunt. Is that any and she cut her off when she told people 353 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:10,200 to google something that was in the public record about how Jake Tapper's constantly comparing 354 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,599 Donald Trump to Hitler. Now I'm we've discussed this. I don't really I 355 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,599 think Trump is right to say I'll debate anyone. If I have to debate 356 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,200 the media, that's fine too. But having someone moderate a debate who called 357 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,519 one of the candidates Hitler seems problematic to me, just in the sense of 358 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:33,079 getting to getting to voters and letting them be educated on what the candidates really 359 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,519 feel. Obviously it's stacked against them. Why do Republicans constantly agree to do 360 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,039 debates there's people who are going to undermine them, do you think? I 361 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:48,359 mean, I just feel like I'm fine with a leftist bias from a moderator, 362 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,039 but if a guy's like working against you, it seems like it's counterproductive 363 00:26:52,039 --> 00:27:00,200 for you. I don't know. I read a really interesting interview with of 364 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,519 Trump with Byron York and he was just talking about how he had this expectation 365 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:08,519 that what they were going to do was like create a situation of proposing a 366 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,400 debate with things that were so bad that they were expecting him to say no, 367 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:17,000 and then they would say that he refused to debate, so he just 368 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:26,079 decided to say yes to like literally whatever. And he was saying that he 369 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,640 feels like debate performance is more about attitude and common sense than like being like 370 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,519 trained for the particulars. And I think he's just like, what's the difference 371 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:41,240 between a mostly hostile moderator and a cartoonishly hostile moderator like Jake Tepper? You 372 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,680 know, I guess I'm not even that upset about him doing the debate. 373 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,440 I'm more upset that CNN can't even let a Trump surrogate in an interview just 374 00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:55,759 describe. I I loved how that happened, though, I also loved when 375 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:57,880 they were like, we don't let people speak ill of our colleagues on air. 376 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,200 Is like, this is the this is the media outlet that got their 377 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,519 own CEO fired after bashing him NonStop for a year. Do you remember that, 378 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,839 Chris Lick? So, no, you're wrong that you don't bash people. 379 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,119 Also like Donald Lemon and Wuoma, like they were always like the cat 380 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,680 fighting among those people, and it's like a it's like a daytime soap opera. 381 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:21,200 But yeah, if you it just kind of cracked me up. Jake 382 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,279 Tapper made decisions to be fully engaged in perpetrating the Russia collusion scam, the 383 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:32,319 false and republic threatening lie that Donald Trump was secretly a Russian agent who had 384 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680 stolen the election. You're allowed to talk about it. He's the one who 385 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200 made the decision to do it. If he says Donald Trump is like a 386 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,079 super threat to the Republic and the regime, you're allowed to talk about it, 387 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,680 like if you don't want to, if you don't get to be the 388 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,319 way Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are without criticism. Yeah, I'm a small 389 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,839 fish, but I've never once interviewed anywhere and said, you can't ask me 390 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,119 about this opinion I had, or you can't ask me about this thing I 391 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,359 said. If I've changed my mind on it, I'll tell you right, 392 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,279 but you can ask me. And the idea that a journalist wouldn't let someone 393 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:12,200 bring up facts about a person who's moderating, it's kind of funny. But 394 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:17,079 I mean, she's an immense hack that one too, so it doesn't matter 395 00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:21,079 anyway. So I guess the end of this, to wrap this all up, 396 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:22,839 is that, yeah, I am sort of interested in the entertainment value 397 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,759 of this debate. I want to see how Joe Biden is and how he's 398 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:32,119 looking what he's saying and now cohering he is. And Trump always likes to 399 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,720 spring some interesting, interesting accusations, and he's just a funny guy, so 400 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:42,079 I think it'll be fun. I think I've decided that I feel like I 401 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,279 should just enjoy the ride here. You know. I kind of like when 402 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,160 Trump ran in twenty sixteen. It made so I was just annoyed all the 403 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,079 time, and then finally I was just like, I'm just going to enjoy 404 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,759 the ride. Like whatever happens happens. You know. One last thing on 405 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,559 this I wanted to ask you. I've been asked this in numerous radio interviews. 406 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:04,160 Do you think Bien that there's any chances can to step down? I 407 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,519 do not. I think if he does really poorly tomorrow night, then yeah, 408 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,079 he might be forced out. I mean, he can't be forced out, 409 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:15,839 though he has to step down, because there's no way to force that 410 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,279 guy out. He's the company, he's the president. There's tons of money 411 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,119 he invested in him already. Another thing is who's going to take over. 412 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,039 It's not like Kamala's going to be like, oh yeah, I sure knew, 413 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,359 some just show up. I think they might just go with Kamala for 414 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,759 real. Well that would be disastrous for them too, I guess, so 415 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,960 yeah, but I don't know. I mean, we've got a really weird, 416 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:38,880 sad situation. You're not supposed to talk about it, but obviously he's 417 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:44,039 not performing very well. There are a lot of people who want him to 418 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,640 continue, but there are people who feel like too much is writing on this 419 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,720 race to allow him to continue. I don't know. I mean, we 420 00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,240 haven't talked about the gas lighting over all, the videos of him acting like 421 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,480 a very old man, you know, and the media just saying that they 422 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,559 are doctored and all stuff when they're not. And then the funniest thing was 423 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,720 quickly Washington Post had another view of the thing that happened at I think it 424 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,680 was the G seven meeting, and it was worse than the original one. 425 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:15,000 He just wanders away while everyone's looking at this paratrooper like it's just insane. 426 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 It's such gaslighting. I can't remember which media outlet had a thing where they 427 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,720 were like, there are deep, fake, cheap fake videos being put out 428 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,359 by Americans to make Biden look bad, and then they had to delete the 429 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:33,359 tweet and the story because all the videos were real. I mean we were 430 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:34,799 like, oh, we had to delete that because we had the wrong video. 431 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,440 The real videos that you said were false because they make him look so 432 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,319 bad. They've been doing this now for years, where if you cut a 433 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,279 video they'll just say it's it's edited in a way to mislead viewers. Well, 434 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400 every video they have is edited. Everyone has to edit a video. 435 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,440 You can't play a whole hours edited exactly. So we have to follow the 436 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,920 guy around his whole life and never miss any contexts. So anyway, I 437 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,000 found that pretty humorous. I don't think any American is actually falling for it 438 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:10,359 because it's very obvious enough of that junk. Let's talk about culture. You're 439 00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:14,519 sick now, But have you watched anything? What have you done lately? 440 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:21,319 Okay? I haven't really watched anything except for Okay, so I went with 441 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:24,440 my family to Italy for a few weeks, and so I watched nothing. 442 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,839 But I did read. I read The Lincoln Highway. Did you read that 443 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,880 book? No? Aymar Tooles. He also wrote that Gentleman in Moscow or 444 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160 whatever that book was it's about. It was good. It was like a 445 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,559 good sort of like that kind of you're on a trip and you just want 446 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,680 to read while you're sitting on the balcony of your hotel or whatever. And 447 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,400 then I also read Chaos. I can't remember who wrote it, but it's 448 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,319 that book about the Manson murders. Did you read that one? I started 449 00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:00,279 it and then I stopped, not because it wasn't good and I just was 450 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:05,160 distracted. Okay. So I got both of those in a like English speaking 451 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,839 bookstore in Florence, and I liked them. They were good, And I've 452 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,599 continued to be reading my Bible very slowly. And then when we were in 453 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Venice, we did one night we were just like utterly exhausted, and we've 454 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,680 been museumed out. We've seen so many museums and so many cultural things. 455 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920 It was a wonderful trip. But we were in our hotel in Venice, 456 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:29,279 which was a place where Vivaldi used to live, which was amazing. And 457 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:37,079 we watched Kenneth Browna's what was it called Murder in Venice or something I don't 458 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:42,000 really remembering, Agatha Christie hall Ofen party, you know send episode. That's 459 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,799 allid Oh wait, I did see other things on the plane. What did 460 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,359 I watch? Oh? So I saw like a long ten hour flight back. 461 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640 I saw boys in the boat. Highly recommend boys in the Boat. 462 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,640 I cried. I loved it. It was really, really bull done. 463 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,519 And it's like also a movie you can watch with the entire family. In 464 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,960 fact, my my youngest recommended the movie to me because the family had watched 465 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,760 it without me one night. Yeah. Actually, Sean Davis recommended that as 466 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,400 an excellent movie too. I'm not sure me or us, so I will 467 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,159 watch that anything else. I mean, I just went to all these beautiful 468 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:22,880 museums like the Vatican Museum and the Effeezi and went to Cienna and I saw 469 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:28,320 the Leaning Tower of Piece Like I have done nothing but culture. It was 470 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,280 real culture, deep culture. Yeah, I'm jealous. I learn a lot. 471 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,800 Have you ever Have you ever been there? Never been to Italy? 472 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:40,480 Okay, yeah, one day go with the wife do. I highly recommend 473 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,920 it. Wait, isn't isn't she Italian? Super Italian? Got a taker? 474 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:53,280 I know, David, we've been busy. I on, on the 475 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,920 other hand, did all low culture. Oh wait, yeah, just one 476 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,920 lessing Saint Mark's in I wasn't like the world's biggest fan of Venice, but 477 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,320 Saint Mark's in Venice is the most beautiful church I've ever been in. That's 478 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,239 it. I'm done. Now you say you weren't such a big fan of 479 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,960 Venice. In general, it was very hot, very smelly, and I'm 480 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:21,400 like a smell sensitive person. Yeah, and extremely crowded with tourists in a 481 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,360 way that the other places were not. Although I were crowded, but not 482 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:32,280 like where you felt like a cow walking through a herd or whatever. That's 483 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,400 kind of what is offpening to me. I'm nervous about going because I hate 484 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,679 crowds and it feels like everything worth seeing is going to be like a line 485 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,119 at Disneyland, you know what I mean. So I worry about that. 486 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,039 So maybe I'll go in the off season. I'm saying, yeah, I 487 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,199 would. I would recommend doing it in the off season. But doing it, 488 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,199 the beauty and the art were just truly, like I can't stop thinking 489 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,719 about some of the things I saw, pretty beautiful. It's amazing. Okay, 490 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:09,679 sorry, I'm going to follow this up with terrible low brow cultural picks. 491 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,599 So I watched a I don't now oh, and I think it's just 492 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:21,400 one. It was a documentary called Rats, made by Andrew McCarthy, the 493 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,760 actor from Pretty and Pink, about the brat pack. Oh yeah, I 494 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,719 saw that. That was that he did that? How was it? You 495 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,039 know? I'm I was like the perfect age for all this. I think 496 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,760 I was fifteen when The Breakfast Cloth came out, you know, so I 497 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,679 was just like perfectly slotted for these movies to appeal to me. Well, 498 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,679 angsty, So I was interested in it. I have to say. It 499 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,960 was okay, Like if you're sentimental about those years, like you probably enjoy 500 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:50,480 it. So he goes and tracks down some of the people in the brad 501 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:53,840 Pack and talks about this article in New York Magazine which kind of in essence 502 00:36:55,559 --> 00:37:00,159 ruined some careers because all these people stopped working together because they didn't want to 503 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,639 be part of this thing, you know. So Rob lows on it and 504 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,239 yeah, but he didn't get Molly Ringwald. He didn't get jud Nelson. 505 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,920 Was that his name? Like Nelson from Yeah, I didn't get those guys. 506 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,239 But what I found interesting about it was like he, for instance, 507 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,079 Amelia estavisn't he hadn't talked since like the premiere of Almost Saying Almost Fire, 508 00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,639 Like they didn't speak for like thirty years, and they weren't very close. 509 00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:28,079 Yeah, okay, so it was somewhat thoughtful, but it was you know, 510 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,440 it was okay if you know you care about that. So I watched 511 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,199 something at your suggestion, Godzilla minus one? Was that what it was called? 512 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719 Yeah, I liked it, and I was trying to figure out why 513 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,480 I liked it so much. And I think it's because the a lot of 514 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,440 the movie was done with obviously with models and like other kind of effects in 515 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,800 that cgi all the time, and I think that I'm so sick of things 516 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,119 looking uber realistic that aren't that. It was healing in a sort of weird 517 00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,320 way. Yeah, I agree. I like that. I saw him movie 518 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,440 hit Man, which gets like rave reviews. I've heard about this movie since 519 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,599 it came out, I think almost two years or last year. It's by 520 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,880 Richard link Later letter I think his name is you did like yeah, says 521 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,639 done by it? Not everyone knows everything it's about it. It's like a 522 00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,800 black comedy about this guy pretending to be a hit man. Whatever. I 523 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,199 did not. I did not think it like lived up to all all the 524 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,800 hype and the critical acclaim. But it was okay. And then I started 525 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,440 watching a show called Presumed Innocent. Did I mention this last time? It's 526 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,639 like a remake of the movie with Harrison Ford, but it has a movie. 527 00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:42,079 But I don't know if you said it, I can't say his last 528 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:47,960 names, Jake, Jill and Hall, Jillen Hall, and uh, it's 529 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:57,400 it's uh, it's it's okay. I guess it's kind of dark, not 530 00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,800 for kids, definitely not safe for work, so few have kids around. 531 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,840 Do not put that show on a lot of flesh. Also, start watching 532 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,760 the new Game of Thrones. Second season of that show. It's so boring. 533 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,719 It's got more incest born, but it is very boring. Nonetheless, 534 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,480 the disgusted face he gave I was a fan of Game of Thrones. I 535 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,360 can't help it. So that's all I have, Moley. I really hope 536 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,639 you feel better too, not good. Sorry, I'll be better next week. 537 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,239 No, you know, you're such a professional. I don't even think 538 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,159 anyone will have noticed. Yeah, next week you'll feel better and we'll be 539 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:50,920 back, and until them be lovers of freedom.