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Thank you for listening to Depiction's Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy Rights to show

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about government policy and human rights.
Welcome back to policy and right here in

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Depictions Media Radio, I'm your host, Michael Clouds. As we know that

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Canada Public Services workers have gone on
strike. The union voted to go on

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strike at the end of last week
and coming coming into the into their sixth

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day of striking, there there um
going after the highest targets that can impact

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the economy, and Canadian ports and
border crossings are tops on that list of

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targets. So there will be will
probably be increased picketing and protest to make

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the highest impact on those particular areas. After all, the um if Canada

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can't move goods in and out of
those borders, that that does eventually affect

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the economy. And of course um
inflation, which we all know the effects

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of inflation are at some of their
highest that I may have ever seen in

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my own lifetime. So what is
it that that what is being negotiated?

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Where how is the government sitting,
especially the liberals, how are they sitting

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at the bargaining table in order to
bring this strike to a quick end.

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They they said they were doing everything
they could to avoid the strike, when

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when we last heard in some of
the question and answer periods on the Parliament

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floor, and then days later we
out we're in a strike, So what

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are they doing? What are the
steps that they're taking? Just when Trudeau

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in one statement he's going to say
that he won't discuss publicly what it is

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that they are negotiating over and how
they're going to bring this strike to an

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end. Is it that maybe we'll
stretch it out long enough that they that

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we start to see um imposed court
orders to put people back to work and

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to end slowdowns. We don't know
what are the what is the government's strategy

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in this and how are they going
to meet the demands of the union.

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So that's today's episode is actually going
to be focused on how the government is

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actually handling and what Trudeau and MPs
are actually saying about this strike in general,

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and how the ministers are going to
focus efforts to bring the strike to

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an in so that services to us
as the public aren't grinding to a complete

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halt and that we can still live
our lives. Government the final strike.

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Obviously, Canadians have a right and
deserve to get the services that they need

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from the federal government. That's why
we need both management and labor to get

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back to the bargaining tables as soon
as possible and continue to make problems.

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And who they have been, they
have been, they have not been right

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But laws also let that okay is
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a count or something if you don't
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public servants to go back into the
office to work. To you, what

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we are saying, what I'm saying
right now is public servant unions need to

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get back to the negotiating tables right
now. Ament to public service to go

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into the office to do the remote
work they've been doing for three years.

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So we are not we are not
negotiating in public right now. The negotiations

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happen at the negotiating table but the
reality is Canadians have every right and expectation

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to see the services that they expect
delivered. We understand it's really important to

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respect labor rights, and there's a
labor distruction right now. It's the first

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day. Let's make sure that while
this is going on, we are at

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the negotiating table. That's where we
expect both managers and unions to sit down

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and keep the hard work for condation
to work, legislation even potentially plan.

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We'll see what happens. I have
no comment on that. My colleagues are

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on the lead on that, or
we're for obviously following the situation close um,

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make a leg la minister protist or
two. All the lovelski keep any

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thoughts on true to any dedication.
You're concerned about your immigration files slowing down

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work, well, look, if
there's still a chance for conversations to continue,

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I hope parties remain at the table. Of course, if there is

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a public service strike, there would
be a serious impact on any departments that

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have staff have been impacted. We
know that processing delays are the kind of

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thing that could take place, But
I remain hopeful that parties will remain engaged

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and we work towards a solution that
keeps people working, but we'll see what

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the next couple of days has in
store. There are there any contingencies the

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department has put in place bracing for
the fact that there could be process and

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delays on immigration applications. Uh yeah. One of the things that we look

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at carefully as the potential for an
impact on our operations and how we can

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pivot as necessary to maintain essential functions
of the department. Our international network has

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the opportunity to continue working being separated
from the bargaining unit, but there will

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be an impact if thousands of staff
are not performing their day to day work.

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And it's the kind of thing that
we are planning on adjusting our resources

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internally to pivot to the most essential
functions of the department. But Canadians who

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are using the immigration system, should
there be a public service strike, would

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expect to see an impact on service
timeline. Certainly, what kind of timelines

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could things be extended to. I
want to be careful not to project what

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may happen because it depends on facts
that we don't yet have access to.

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Of course, I remain hopeful that
the parties will continue to work together in

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order to find a solution. That's
what I think everybody wants out of this

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important negotiations that are going on.
But the impact on our operations would depend

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upon the nature of any kind of
strike action that may take place, whether

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it's a full action or partial or
rotating, could certainly impact timelines. The

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length of any work stoppage obviously would
be a major factor as well that could

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potentially impact it. So I don't
mean to dodge your question, only to

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explain that the impact can't be fully
discerned until we understand the nature of any

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work stoppage, should there be one. But I remain hopeful as always the

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parties will continue to work towards a
solution so we can avoid those kinds of

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consequences. Just sorry, I was
just thinking of the backlock. If there

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is a backlog for WE, if
they go out for WE, where did

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that take a profit to clears or
any sort of formula sort of knowing how

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many applications are a processing only not
necessarily it's not a clear formula where we

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know X number of days missed will
add that many days. Of course,

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there's different things that we're constantly trying
to do whether it's adopting new digital solutions,

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some of which happen to be coming
on board around now, whether it's

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relaxing certain administrative requirements. So the
folks who continue to work through any kind

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of stoppage are able to produce more
with existing resources. So we do whatever

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we can, and frankly we do
that on an ongoing basis in ordinary circumstances

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to try to improve processing timelines anyway. So it's hard to say with certainty,

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but we can certainly expect when um
the public Service UH stops performing certain

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functions, that those functions will will
reveal themselves through service levels that the people

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who use the system enjoy, really
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have movement for exact which we don't
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the contect with an example, you
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are apt polan focus, yes,
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Our job is to deal with Canadians
concern. That's and we're doing.

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And I think there's very few Canadians
who look back at vocations of colleagues around

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the house or wherever. I think
what they want is for us to focus

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on what matters to them, which
is affordability. It's about healthcare, it's

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about making sure we create the economy
of the future, of the job.

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That's what we did yesterday with Eric
said to invest a close half a billion

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in Canada. That's my focus.
How do you know, don't care because

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I talked to Canadians every single day, and hundreds of them. So it's

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okay that the Prime Minister went on. I would say, you say,

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I have not met one Canadian talking
to me about that. What they talk

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to me about is Ericsson, is
about the job, is about making sure

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we have more battery plants, that
we lead in the economy of the future.

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And that's what Canadians talk to me
about. That was the one that

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come to me and say, Minister, keep on going, good jobs.

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See thanks, minister. Is particulation
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or something. CBC threat the bmol
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do that? But how would you
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not you and part Yeah. Well, I hope that it comes back,

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um quickly. I want to thank
the senators for all the work, um,

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the past work, what they're doing
now. It's a very important build.

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People are expecting them, the culture, we're expecting them. It's the

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builder. Was the longest in the
history of Canada in the Senate. It

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was well studied in the House.
In the Senate. Uh, it's an

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important bill. It's time to move
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of well and lamotis that Simms is
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a Diana on a What do you
make of the conservative positions? Sir?

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What do you make of the conservative
position that they don't want to touch the

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CDC or they want to defund the
CDC rather, but they want to maintain

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and keep funding to Radio Canada.
What do the same institution? How can

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they do that? But it makes
you know what the thing is. I'm

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extremely worried today they are attacking the
CDC educated journalists. To tomorrow, who

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is it going to be one of
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is attacking our democracy And I am
extremely worried. So she explain, see

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the massic key knut media. I
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attack decracy. Are you looking at
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web is a government of Canada looking
at its use of Twitter, and given

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Twitter's activities the changing a percentage CBC
funding, some are pointing out, what

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the heck is going on? Here? Is the government Canada reviewing its policy

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using Twitter. Honestly, I don't
know. I didn't have any discussion on

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that. But what what I'm concerned
about is once again the Conservatives are signing

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with the tech giant. Now this
time they're asking a tech giant to come

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and helping combat the Kenian institutions.
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be worried. Seriously, do you
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it will what is it? As
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Regulator has reported that six million leader
of tailing ponds has We don't have the

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details yet, but it has leaked
into the Athabasca River. So I have

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asked urgently Environment Canada officials to look
into it. We will have more to

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say a little bit later, but
as of now, these are the only

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information that I have. If if
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Pisa goes on the straight, are
some of those Environment Canada people are going

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to be walking back at lands or
I don't have the information. I don't

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have the answer to that question.
I mean, obviously some of those are

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essential services workers, especially in the
enforcement branch, inspection verification. But I

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don't have the specific answer to the
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towns also appreciates the price points only
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good afternoon, thank you for being
here today. Last night, the

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public Service Alliance of Canada followed through
with its strike deadline and as a result

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of as of this morning, over
one hundred thousand members and five bargaining units

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are now in a legal strike position
and can withdraw their services. Now.

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I can't stress enough how disappointing this
is based on the progress we've made at

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the negotiating table. This is not
where we should be. Over the past

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two weeks, We've been able to
resolve a number of issues through mediation,

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and most importantly, we have put
a fair, competitive wage offer on the

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table. We recognize and respect employee's
rights to strike, but when a good

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offer is on the table and there
is a genuine commitment to compromise, the

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focus should be on negotiation. The
government has been waiting for almost a year

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for PSAC to come back to the
table since our first offer, so we

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can negotiate a deal with employees left
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ve stizon A pobl contribute objective principle
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offered PSAC employees a wage increase of
nine percent over three years. This fully

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matches the increase recommended by the Public
Interest Commission, and all members of the

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Commission endorsed that increase, including the
p s AC's nominee. We have also

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put forward proposals on a number of
other priorities for the p SAC, including

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remote work, increase, shift and
weekend premiums, and improved leave with pay

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for family related responsibilities. We have
no doubt that there is enough common ground

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to compromise and reach an agreement with
the PSAC, and I'm convinced by working

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together we can do so. To
all federal public servants across the country who

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work hard every day, your work
is valued by Canadians and by us.

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We will continue to work with the
PSAC to reach agreements that are fair and

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competitive, but we cannot do that
unless the union is prepared to compromise.

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We cannot write a blank check to
Canadians. We know that our strike poses

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unneeded challenges. We are committed to
ensuring that essential services continue to be delivered.

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That said, after the union's announcements. Many of the p s a

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c's members are away from their job
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usual. Secifzuca de non bru service
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Republic contin liv Assuri. The public
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Labor Disruptions to find out more about
potential impacts on their services. And I

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want to say it again, we
have made and continue to make every effort

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to reach a deal as soon as
possible. We call on the p SCC

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to work with us to reach an
agreement as quickly as possible. Public servants

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deserve no less. Canadians deserve no
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Good afternoon everyone. I'd like to
take some time to give an update on

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how the ongoing public service labor disruption
will affect services delivered by E SDC and

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Service Canada. When a labor disruption
takes place, it is incumbent upon the

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government to take the steps necessary to
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Pandancer perier le guvernement de servier le
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reduction de sa reseurs a this is
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latus de nume d's current sociale sans
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the Guaranteed Income Supplement, Employment insurance
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as these programs will be focused on
maintaining client access to payments. Canadians should

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register for direct deposit to help get
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easily. In person and virtual services
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cpp os and EI, as well
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However, during job actions, Canadians
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de paspalt consolide. This means that
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to apply for or renew a passport
by law passport services are essential and a

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priority only in emergency or humanitarian situations. These very limited services will only be

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available at passport offices or at Service
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Humanitarian and or emergency situations are defined
as follows. Passport clients at risk of

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financial hardship, passport clients who rely
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whose income security will be jeopardized without
access, passport clients who must travel for

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medical reasons or who have had a
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whose situation is deemed urgent, And
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trette. Passport Applications that do not
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and will not be processed. We
do expect that a prolonged labor disruction would

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create a backlog of passport applications that
we need to be processed once the disruption

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is over. Thanks to the capacity
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we're in a much stronger position to
address any new backlogs. But it wouldn't

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go away overnight. To paint a
quick picture, we currently have a sustainable

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file inventory of about one hundred and
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We receive a total about eighty five
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more than that. The incoming and
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a week of processing time, tens
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out of service standard and become a
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the number of applications we may receive
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longer we are in this position,
the worse that problem becomes. It would

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take some time to resolve, but
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position than where we were last year. For example, new continnurand de value

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every step we can to minimize impacts
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the situation closely and ensure that we
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efficiently as possible. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to

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my colleague, Minister Fraser to talk
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to be providing some information on the
anticipated impact of a labor disruption on these

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services offered by IRCC to clients,
both in Canada and overseas. I'll start

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with the services that will remain available
for clients at this time. Those using

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RCC services will continue to be able
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They'll be able to continue to access
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some access to emergency services. Services
delivered by our partners as well will also

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continue. These include things such as
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physician services and healthcare related services that
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by settlement and resettlement organizations in Canada, including for government assisted refugees, will

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still be offered. Settlement services across
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have the support they need before,
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Government assisted refugees will continue to receive
income support payments and We're going to

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continue to provide temporary accommodations for vulnerable
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people who have recently fled the war
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Now I want to focus on the
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that we do expect to see an
impact on. As a result of the

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labor disruption, we would be at
a significantly reduced capacity. Clients should expect

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to experience serious delays with processing applications
across all of our immigration streams. At

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any given point in time. It's
common for us to be managing more than

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a million applications. This is a
large number, and we have been working

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night and day over the past year
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post pandemic phase to reduce these backlogs, and we were getting very close to

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restoring service standards across all of our
lines of business, and in fact have

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hit those service standards we enjoyed pre
pandemic for many of them. Unfortunately,

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the labor disruption will have an impact
on the gains that we have made and

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the work that we've been doing to
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since the pandemic. Further delays could
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Clients with immigration related appointments will be
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and we will also be forced to
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response times for those writing to us
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lei, posible public altfollmate. Like
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take every step we can to minimize
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concerns that could be seriously impacted as
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going to continue to monitor the situation
very closely and ensure we provide whatever services

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are possible to our clients that they
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as possible, and to continue to
keep the public informed on further impacts that

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may be observed depending on how the
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I'll be happy to join my colleagues
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and would reflect the comments made by
those who spoke before me that we remain

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at the table and want to work
with the Union to find a solution that

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is fair and mises the impact on
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looking forward to what questions you may
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I just want to reassure the colleagues
the ministers will not be leaving at one.

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We have more time for questions,
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So just as a reminder, I
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UM, one question, one follow
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with questions in the room. For
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hand function if to indicate that you
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to start with me or Rapson from
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can choose a little bit about your
comment this morning that you were still at

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the table negotiating. The Prime Minister
seemed to suggest you weren't at the table

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negotiating. The Union is saying that
they will come back to the table when

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you put a new offer on the
table. So I'm just wondering if you

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can clarify what's going on with the
actual negotiations and if a new offer is

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coming from the government. Well,
thank you for the question. They are

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presently negotiating at the table. Everybody, all the parties are at the table.

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So are you planning to come back
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my follow up, I'm just curious
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legislation and if if not immediately,
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I will say that, of course
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us to reach a deal, an
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in the interest of the public service
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is the best place where we can
reach for a deal. And currently negotiations

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are happening and exchanges are happening between
both parties, and we will continue to

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put all efforts in to have those
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these negotiations. Um, it's the
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remotely as the union is hoping for. Thank you for the question. And

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what I'm going to say at this
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modern workplace where employees have the flexibility
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week, and we have made proposals
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time and at the same time,
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a service and make sure that our
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we will see what continues at the
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workers did work remotely. Did you
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Is that part of the hesitancy around
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think that we have been from a
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a delivering services with a hybrid model
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how to best deliver those services and
by bringing forward letting some of the public

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service public servants working from home to
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presenting at this time and we will
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how we best deliver the services to
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how far apart the two sides are
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if you can talk about the tone
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will say I'm of course convinced that
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reach a deal. That's where best
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the effort to continue that effort to
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that as we are negotiating, I'm
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gaps or whatnot. I think right
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work together. And the Prime Minister
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on Monday and the Union never got
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it did get back to you made
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up? What's going on with them? Well, again, as you know,

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in the negotiations, there's an offer
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that's what we're working on right now, and that the table, there will

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be many exchanges. Therefore, we
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are looking at how the offers will
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exchanges for the past two weeks and
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c news. Sometimes imposition are Huntsman
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Gregor CTVR is resistant to enshrining the
right to work from home or to telework.

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Given your previous comments and how well
it working in the pandemic, why

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don't you allow those things to be
enshrined in a collective agreement? Currently?

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As I said earlier with another question, we are implementing a hybrid work model

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to best deliver services, having a
modern workplace that gives the flexibility to public

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servants to work from home two to
three days a week, and we have

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made those proposals on telework and other
PSAC priorities during this current negotiation, and

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at the same time, we want
to make sure that we continue to offer

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services to Canadians. That's our core
priority. Follow up for Minister Google that

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your criteria for what is an essential
passport application? Right now? There are

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going to be lots of people out
there who have holidays planned, travel planned

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that don't meet those criteria. You've
said, what do you say to a

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family that's going to Disney World next
week for their passports? Yeah, Glenn,

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it's it's a really good question,
and unfortunately it's not something that I

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have set. It's legislated in law
as what an urgent or humanitarian passport is

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considered to be UM and uh,
you know, I feel I feel very

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terrible for them. UM. You
know, I think, like all of

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my colleagues here, we're very hopeful
that we're going to come to a negotiated

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agreement with the Public Service Alliance of
Canada expeditiously so that the impact on Canadians

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is minimal. So I'm I'm very
hopeful that that bargaining will continue because you

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know, unfortunately, as legislated UM
and as outlined with the Union, if

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someone has a family vacation plan,
it's not considered to be an essential service.

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And so you know, I really
you know, continue to urge both

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parties. I mean, the government
is there, We've been there since last

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June, and I hope that the
Union will continue to be there as well

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to reach this agreement because ultimately has
an impact on Canadians. Ranc Chris Clip

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service phraser um. The most unique
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So the the it's not one million
per year, it's it's common for us

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to have more than a million applications
in the inventory at any given moment um.

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Far more than that come in over
the course of a year, and

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we process them as they come in, so that the number annually would be

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would be much higher. The precise
nature of the delays for people who are

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awaiting visa processing, for example,
will depend on the nature of the labor

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disruption. Um. We do have
access to the international network of workers at

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IRCC who will continue to process what
they can with a prioritization, of course,

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on emergency situations where a person's life
may may be threatened. I do

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expect that the impact will be severe, depending on the length of any work

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stoppage. However, the full scale
of the disruption has certain unknown facts that

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make it difficult to assess with certainty
the precise timelines or delays an applicant may

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face. Ryan Tumulty, National Past
Yeah, Minister Fortune, I'm wondering there's

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some lack of clarity. PEACEACK is
basically telling its members that it's unlikely they

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will see wage cutbacks during the strike, that there will be clawbacks after the

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strike, but that during the strike
they shouldn't expect to see a reduction in

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their wages. Is that accurate or
should people striking expect that their next paycheck

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will be less well, the ones
that will be continue to work in their

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positions will continue to be paid.
The ones that will be going on that

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picket line will be given a pay
from their union, so they will continue

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to be paid by their union and
them out per day. Yeah. Sorry,

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PSACHI standing its members though, that
it will they're unlikely to see a

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pay stoppage even while they're on strike
and off the job, and that that

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won't a clawback won't happen until after
the fact. Can you clarify that I

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will. I will just make sure
that I have the right to technical information

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from my colleagues, and I will
come back to you if you give me

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to make sure that I give you
the right information. Thank you, David.

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Briefly the logic, thank you.
I'm feltier. Could you talk a

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little bit about some of the impacts
on trade and goods movement from this.

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I know frontline CBSA agents are not
on strike, but some parts of CBSA

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R and they must interact. The
Canadian Grain Commission is apparently not doing export

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certifications according to your information page.
What are the consequences of this strike on

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those hearts of activities? Well,
as we said earlier, there has been,

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of course an understanding with prior to
the striking activity with the PSCC to

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identify which would be essential services and
which will not be. Therefore, there

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will be an impact in those services
that are not essential, and that is

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what is happening. So therefore there
will be some impact on this. I'm

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after something more specific than that.
I'm clearly there's some impact, but where

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what sorts of particular goods will be
affected by this? Where will imports or

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exports be slowed down? I don't
have the current specific information, but I

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think that is a good question that
we can come back to you through a

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technical brief. Thank you, Stephanie
Lovitts, Toronto Star. Hi. I

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guess my questions from natro Fort as
well. I'm wondering if you can respond

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to the official opposition that says that
the fact that we've gotten to a strike

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is a measure of incompetence on the
part of the federal government. Not being

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able to avert something it's not coming
for months. Well, again, it's

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important to say that we need to
make sure that public servants are paid fairly

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and that it's a competitive also pay
and that's what we've been concentrating on.

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A year ago we tabled our first
offer, and since then we've been trying

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to make sure that public servants have
a wage deal that will be fair and

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also at the same time reasonable for
Canadians. And that's what we're focusing on

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at this time. And then,
just as my follow up, if we

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understand sort of the public service to
be the barometer for the private labor market,

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what's your message to work is more
broadly then that at this time of

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inflation, they too ought not expect
wage hikes that match inflationary pressures as they

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see their own grocery bills and other
expenses go up. Well, the thing

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is we have put forward a deal, an offer I would say that is

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good for public servants and also fair
and also that will make sure that it's

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reasonable for Canadians. We have a
current economy that we see is changing and

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we want to make sure, of
course that we follow that economy. And

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I, as I said, earlier
in my remarks, I think it's important

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that we get to this wage offer
that will not compromise what other jurisdictions are

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also working on and putting pressure on
those jurisastans and the private sector. So

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I think that we have the right
path forward and we will of course work

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very hard to get to a deal. Thank you very much. We'll now

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go to questions on zoom. A
reminder to use the race hand function to

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indicate if you do have a question, and I will amute you an immediate

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last question Meli's Canadian press him.
This question is from Minister of forty um.

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The Prime Minister earlier this morning had
called on Labor to come back to

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the table. It seems like at
some point they left the table and Labor

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had said that they would come back
if the government came back an offer.

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So I just liked some clarity as
to what had happened and whether uh negotiations

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resumed because the government came back with
the new offer, or that labor just

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chose to come back. So I
have to say the last two weeks there

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has been many conversations going from one
room to another with mediation, and that

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is what negotiations are, and that
this morning, my understanding is that the

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union and the government we're at the
table working together and that is the same

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case as we speak. Okay,
wage increases, remote work, seniority rights

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on layoffs are three of the biggest
things that are that are on the negotiating

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table when we're talking about what the
union demands are during this particular federal public

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service strikes. Here's the thing is
this strike is being watched very closely because

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it could have ripple effects in other
areas depending on what it is that is

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negotiated and what demands are met and
how they are are actually met. So

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the government isn't in a sticky position. And we're talking about one hundred and

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fifty five thousand federal public servants that
are on strike or at least on some

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sort of a slowdown. So what
could the ripple effects be and what is

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the government really going to do.
We're gonna have to keep up with this

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and see how things play out with
the government. And again they're saying that

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they're going to do this behind closed
doors. And one of the things that

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we know that this government is good
at is keeping things behind closed doors until

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they explode and then there's public inquiry, which they fight against it. That

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