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This is High on the Ball Breaking
News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Well.

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I had a nice starting point,
but now I have a bad one.

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And again, if you're if you're
outside the Northwestern football program, you

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think differently from what I think.
The way you and I think with all

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this hazing stuff. So apparently at
the first football practice at Northwestern, a

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bunch of coaches and players showed up
with a t along black long sleeved T

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shirt that said Kats against the World
and it had Pats Fitzgerald's number fifty one

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on it, basically honoring the guy
who got fired because he's been running a

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program that's had hazing going on for
decades. And so they're they're they're building

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there, they're getting motivated by the
fact that, you know, this hazing

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thing has come up against the program. That's that's a weird game. I

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mean one, am I am,
I am I over thinking this to say

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that's really distasteful. Well, we're
we're a thousand a few thousand miles away,

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right, so I don't know exactly, but one, they're not any

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good and I'm seeing that with all
due respect because they're not any good.

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They haven't won in the games.
If you were good, it makes sense.

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But they're not any good. And
then they're honoring the guy you just

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fired. And to me, what
this t shirt says is we're okay with

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what happened here. You're not,
and so it's us against you. Yeah,

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because you know those some of those
people in that room right knew about

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it. Probably they all knew about
it. Yeah, that's kind of bizarre.

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And at whatever needs you do,
whatever you need to motivate yourself.

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Well, okay, well, anyways, that the Northwestern the interim or the

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not the interim, but the athletic
director, uh you know, came out

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and just thought it was extremely tone
deaf and inappropriate. But I bet you

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they were him now and that's got
to wear him again. I guess it's

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free speech again, and that's and
that's what they're they said, Well,

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it's our free speech. We had
to say this, OK. Fine,

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but you're representing the school in that
situation as free as you think. That's

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the whole thing, right, That's
very true, right, all right?

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So anyway, so that that just
came across one of my buddies that I

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saw. He said this to me, basically saying, what's wrong with these

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guys? And what you know?
And then he's exactly right, what is

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wrong with these guys? All right? The thing I was going to start

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with, excuse me, was that
Michael Wiley, running back at Arizona,

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has been named to the Dope Walker
Award watch list. He was actually named

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in this list in twenty twenty one, not last year, but back again

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this year. He went he had
und he had seven hundred seventy one yards

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last year, but the touchdowns went
for two hundred and fourteen against a su

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in that in that game with three
touchdowns. So really, you know,

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came out of the season, you
know, on a very high note,

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and I think a lot's expected of
it. Okay, Okay, yeah,

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yeah, No, I think you
spoke to him. I think he's a

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big key, big key to what
doing. Sure, no, offensively,

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no question, it's Jaden him and
the receivers and the receivers right, well,

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of course you can just say,
and the offensive line that needs to

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protect all these guys. I mean
that's a given. And they do,

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they really do. I mean it
right, it does hinge on on the

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offensive line. You know, we
had Bruce Pasquin yesterday. The U,

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the U of A basketball team is
on its way to Israel. They land

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on the tenth which is like tonight
right our time tonight. Yeah, because

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it's differ ye. So they they
they get they go straight into Tel Aviv.

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Have I think they've got a few
days before they have their first game.

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The fourteen I think is the first
day I'll be there for to get

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in an education. Education at least
taught me, thinks. So I'm telling

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you, man, you go to
a place like that, you get real

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religious, real fast. Yeah,
no matter why you're religious, right right,

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No, you're fact because you we
we saw him. We joked about

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it yesterday. They're kind of whole
humb But once you get it and you

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say, wow, this is this
is what it's about. I mean,

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I'm a I'm a Cne Catholic,
right Christmas and Eastern Catholic. But I

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told you when we went to Rome, and we went to and we went

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to the Vatican. I got really
religious, really fast. He says,

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as you say, uh, please, please, can you take care of

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that incident when I was seventh?
No no, no, no no no

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no no, no no no,
that's not what I did. I said,

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can you please please get us to
a rose ball? What was you

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saying? Please don't strike me?
Now? I went to put my hand

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on the foot of Saint Peter's and
said it please. Your second thing it

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was, please don't strike to strike
people with a lightning God. Anyway,

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did you get really religious? I
didn't go to confession there though I was,

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I wasn't about to do that.
The probably would have taken forever.

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It could have taken forever. We
give me, Father, I haven't sent

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for what I haven't seen you love. I think. I think in a

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place like that, they just don't
hear of some of the sins that we

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commit here, particularly the ones that
Arizona stadiums. True. True, well

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you heard that you the country song
We don't ask for God, we don't

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ask for not favors, but uh
favors, I guess until we need favors.

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Yeah, how's this for jet Fish. Penn State has sold ninety four

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thousand seen season tickets. What else
is there to do in college station or

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college Penn station? Man, Yeah, I guess we're the whole city knows

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where it's going to be on.
So I have a quick step. My

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dad, who I love my dad
and adored. My dad a big sports

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fan in his own way. He
was buried in his Penn State, Penn

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State jacket. He loved Penn State
because man relatives out there. Yeah and

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yeah he's in this little with Ndney
Lyon. How funny and check it.

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I haven't even thought about what I
want to be buried in that outfit,

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you gotta Yeah, it's either gonna
be this one. Hey, you know

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I'm going to the game tonight.
Right when did the Dodger game? I

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am leaving after the Dan Walking interviews. I can get to get to uh,

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get to uh the ball chase field
by first pitch. But it's a

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it's a it's a it's a full
Gonzales clan thing. My grandson jets.

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Everybody was first baseball game. I
got my wife a Mookie Bett's shirt because

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Mookie Mookie is kind of her boyfriend. So he doesn't know because Jay Everson,

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Justin Turner went to the Red Sox. Now she did get a Justin

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Turner T shirt in Boston when we
were there. Are your daughter's going and

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my daughters are going? Who were
they? Because these guys are they're they're

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just Dodger fans, Okay, And
there's actually we're laughing because it's a really

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funny picture. We took a picture
of our family at Dodger stayd all of

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us in our Dodger hats, Dodger
gear or whatever. But my one daughter,

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Alana in some sort of a Boston
hat and so she didn't have them.

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She was the only one out wearing
dodd gear in this photo. So

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she actually went and got got a
Dodger hat this year's especially today. So

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they beat the Diamondbacks last night,
but not by enough apparent they dissatisfy Steve

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a couple of things on the on
the on the realignment front, Washington State

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Athletic Director Pat Chun had this pot
about about what's happened and why his team

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is being stuck. Quote, there's
a century of history that has gone by

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the wayside because this conference has mismanaged
itself on a bunch of different levels.

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When you have poor leadership, one
of the outcomes is failure. That's what

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has happened to the pact. Twe
without questions. I guess he didn't pull

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any punch. No, no,
of course you can't say that. You

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can't say that during the meeting.
But you think that during the meeting,

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and then when all things go to
hell, you say, what the hell

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just happened? Because if you speak
up, what is it matter? It's

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still gonna be under bitner bad management, right, I mean that's in the

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end. You know what we asked
John, what you know was George Clapcoff

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the guy? And he said apparently
not. Noah, apparently he was not.

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If he is not well, if
he gets absorbed whatever's left of the

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grind sale, he's no longer gonna
be anything anything. He's not gonna have

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a job. He's not gonna have
a conference to manage, right, right,

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He's not gonna have a job.
So anyways, to two Phoenix sons

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going into their ring of honor,
Sean Marion and Amari Stadmeyer, they had

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a they had a I think it
was P and X. I won't get

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him on the sault. Bookman somewhere
they had a level of tears of sons.

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People who was at the top,
who were the top top at the

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top, the two lay and probably
the guard Steve dash does who they were

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exactly Arizona's Who's top two Arizona University? If I were to do one,

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If I were to do one,
who top two in the basketball program?

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Four or five tiers? Yeah?
Two, top two in the basketball yeah

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going coaches, I'm going current Elliott
Yeah, no question, new questions,

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and then the next three Mike Baby
Okay, I agree, Bob Elliott,

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okay, And see the second tough
one. The second best player? In

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my mind, who's the second best
player ever to play there in Arizona.

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We're gonna disagree, but the second
best player second in my mind? In

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my mind, I some people who
were talking about just as you know,

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just the talent, or we're talking
about who accomplished because I'm you're because DeAndre

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Ayton was one of the best players
that Arizona has ever had. But he

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wasn't here long enough. And the
way he crapped out, you don't you

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don't put him up. See to
me, Damon, Damon, dam four

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years get him to the final four. Heck of a player. He would

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be like right there, right there, right there, and then you could

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kind of fill in. Then there's
a whole bunch of other guys out here

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that, Yeah, but I see
more so during loose time than yeah.

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You know, but you got you
gotta think back to, you know,

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a guy like Ernie McCray, right, No, we have guys like that,

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Bernie McCray. You talked about Bob
Elliott, but some of the guys

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that Harris, Eric Money we had, I mean he was only two years

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But again, if not you can
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not for Eric Money and Coney and
Norman, Bob Elliott doesn't happen, lud

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Olsen doesn't happen. You know,
Bob Elliot wrote that book. You know,

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had it not been for these guys, Luke would never have seen it,

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right right. Interesting. Interesting.
The Iowa State Athletic Director Jamie Pollard

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had his quote on whether there's any
going to be any further Big twelve expansion.

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He said it's done for the foreseeable
future because there's no TV money,

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which he's probably right on that one. On that one as well. On

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that one as well, I'm waiting
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when the coaches polled came out yesterday, yeah said Oregon State was seventeen members,

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that's all. Actually eighteen. Oregon
State came out eighteen. The highest

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ranked PAC twelve team is is USC, which I still don't buy. Eight

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six six Where's War's your team?
Washington is eleven, Utah fourteen, Oregon

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fifteen. They have five teams,
I think, then Oregon State eighteen.

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Yeah, And then I'll across the
top five. You got Georgia, Michigan.

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A lot of people were picking Michigan
to win this thing. Alabama,

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Ohiouse State, Elissere, that's your
top five. Then you got Southern cal

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Penn State, Florida State, Clemson, and Tennessee, Washington, Texas,

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Notre Dame Texas up there again,
right, Washington, Texas, Notre Dame,

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uh Utah, Oregon sixteen through twenty
or TCU TCGE was just in the

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National Championship game and they're sixteen,
uh TCU, Kansas State, Future of

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Pack, Paul, Oregon State,
Oklahoma, North Carolina then twenty one through

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twenty five or Wisconsin Ole, miss
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five teams Tulane, Texas Tech,
and Texas A h wow, tu Lane.

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I think Illinois it was mentioned as
well some at some point. Yeah,

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I didn't see this. The thing
I'm looking at doesn't have who all

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who elst got votes? But that's
uh, that's your college football up preseason

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coaches, Paul, I mean,
how do you not pick Georgia? Right?

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Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to
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they flamed out, you know,
against Texas Tech. But apparently thinks he's

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got some guys, so we'll see
what happens there and the big game.

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Boomer clutched up for US today came
up with a current Bowl projection. Right,

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do you think everyone is in there? Yeah? Okay, where would

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be interesting? This would be fund
is there in there? Oh you're gonna

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go tell me young Checho straight to
it in New Mexico. No, there,

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he has him in the Jimmy kimmelball
against This would be fun. Oh,

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just this will be fun. This
will be fun. I don't know

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San Diego State, Oh yeah,
yeah, that'd be fun though. Well,

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you're gonna go what day is?
What date is it? That's I

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think that's well and there's too much
time, and we got to see the

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basketball state. Uh, that's that'll
be a fun trip, no question.

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That's in La la. Oh.
Didn't we gotta go? Yeah? Didn't

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you gotta go? Because just to
see the stadium. Yeah. And then

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he's got Georgia and Michigan in the
National Championship Game. He's got LSU Washington

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and the Festivall Rose Bowl, Michigan
and Florida State, which would be a

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playoff game. Georgia and Penn State
in the Sugar Bowl will would be another

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playoff. I don't know how much
time he has in his life, but

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that guy told him his wife must
really love him because it comes up with

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this. So he's he he apparently
has Washington winning the league because he's got

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them in the Festival. Well,
he's got SC playing Boise State in the

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Cotton Bowl, so he's got must
have Washington winning. What was our what

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was our bet? Who's our bet? Uh? I one of one of

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our teams has to win the champions
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bet? I don't I don't know. I think it's just dinner, okay,

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know, Okay, all right,
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I got. We're gonna have Dan
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Hey, welcome back to wy on
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Jagon's house. Now on the phone, we have da walking from the USA

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today. Dan, thanks for joining
us. Hey, what's going on?

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Not much, I'm sure in the
world, well in our world, he's

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doing all the work. You've been
very busy for thirteen months, if not

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longer with this alignment stuff. Will
it ever end? Not? Really?

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No. Every ten years or so
we kind of go through one of these

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cycles, and it's because that's when
the television contracts come up for renewal.

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And every time that happened, these
leagues try to position themselves to get the

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most amount of money they can and
that is going to often involve adding teams

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and adding brands and all that stuff. And it just seems to be more

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and more every cycle. There's this
consolidation of the most valuable properties and it's

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just continued and there's no reason to
think it won't keep going. And it

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seems like this one's not even over
yet, right because now you're hearing about

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you know, Callan Stafford did the
acc what's going to happen with Washington State

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and Oregon State? I mean,
how soon does some of this stuff need

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to get settled or will it get
settled. Well, it needs to get

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settled pretty soon because those schools as
of right now are in a conference with

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four members come next year, so
you know, if they're gonna have a

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twenty twenty four football season, they
got to figure out exactly, you know,

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what league they're going to be in, if it's the Pack twelve or

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the Mountain West or some going to
the a SEC or Independence whatever. You

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know, not a lot of time
to figure out what's going to happen next

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year, much less what's gonna be
five or ten years into the future.

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What do you think's gonna happen to
Stanford? Do we we see Stafford all

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the time being here in the West
and they're a price undoubtly as because they

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have all these great non football basketball
sports. The short answer is, I

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don't know, and I'm not sure
they know right now. I mean,

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it's almost inconceivable that's Stanford, given
how successful they are in pretty much every

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sport outside of football and men's basketball. They've won all these national championships.

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You go down the list, you
know, name the sport they've they've won

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a championship. You know they're they're
really one of the gold standards athletic programs.

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They win the Athletic Director's Trophy every
single year, and here they are

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without a conference, a viable conference
for them, And I don't know.

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I don't think it excites anyone at
Stanford to join the Mountain West or something

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like that. I don't know if
this acc thing is going to work out

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or not. It's a bit of
a weird uh situation that they'd have to

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go cross country for all these games
with all these teams. I don't know

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if that's particularly viable. So that's
a long way of saying there's a lot

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of possibilities on the table, and
I really don't know what they're thinking or

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what they're gonna do. Yeah,
real quick, going back to last Friday

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and all that happened on Friday morning, when we had a Bobby Robbins and

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Dave Hickey, the athletic director and
the president in a press conference on Monday,

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and Bobby Robbins, the president said
we were signing the deal. Imagine

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if that had come through like that, how what would your reaction have been?

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Would you have thought that was a
good move, a bad move,

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a dumb move? What would your
thoughts have been on, you know,

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the PAC twelve holding together, but
with what was really an inferior TV deal.

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I never thought they were going to
hold together, to be honest with

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you, because of exactly what you
just said, Like the longer this thing

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went on with the television contract,
and I've been tracking it for months and

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months and months, and it was
always, well, you know, they're

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gonna update the presidents of the next
meeting and then nothing happens. Yeah,

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that's not normal. These deals typically
get done or close to done a couple

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of years ahead of time, and
just was happening with the PAC twelve.

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And so that suggested to me that
the options weren't very good. And look,

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at some point, we may be
in a place where we're all watching

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sports on these streaming apps or Apple, Amazon, whatever, and the main

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networks we all know and grew up
with kind of go go away or take

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a different role, but we're not
there yet. Right now. Television cable

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and being able to flip on your
TV and just change channels, that that's

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king, that's the currency of sports
right now. So I just think the

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PAC twelve taken that kind of deal. If they had done that would have

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suggested that they didn't have any other
good options. So I wonder were you

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in Vegas for the PAC twelve,
And if you weren't, I'm sure you

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monitored it on TV like everybody else. What did you make of Georgia Klokkov's

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statements the longer we wait, the
better the deal, all that stuff.

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Yeah, I wasn't there, but
that never made sense to me be because

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that's just not the way this stuff
typically works. Look, we can trace

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the failures of the PAC twelve many
years across many individuals. Obviously, Larry

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Scott has a role in it,
George has a role in that, the

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presidents have a role in it.
But I do think, at least for

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the last year, George's biggest problem
is that he could not level with people

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and wasn't telling the truth even within
his own league, to his own presidents,

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like there was always you know,
kind of wait, wait till next

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time, wait, wait, let's
you know, in two weeks and a

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month, we'll get the sorted out. Well, I think it created this

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sort of unrealistic expectation, both inside
and outside the league that hurt his credibility

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when he actually did bring something to
the table. All right, So how

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do you feel about what's shaking out? I mean, we've I told Steve,

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you know as the show began that
today feels like the first day that

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you feel like things have kind of
settled a bit. I know there's still

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some more things to resolve, but
for you know, from in terms of

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the big pieces of this realignment are
settled. Do you like the Do you

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like what the Big Ten's gonna look
like? Do you like what the Big

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twelve is gonna look like? Well, it has its plus as minuses on

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both sides. You know, I
just really feel like college sports is better

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and more functional when the leagues are
regionally based, and especially for things outside

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of football. But every school's got
their own set of issues in their own

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priorities, like Arizona as an example, their priorities men's basketball and being a

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national contender in men's basketball, and
the further the Pac Twelve got weakened,

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that was hurting Arizona and what their
ambitions are in basketball. And so when

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you look at what their options are
or were the Big twelve and joining you

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know, Kansas and Baylor and TCU
and Houston and a lot of the programs

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that have in really good over the
last half decade and in the nc DOUBA

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Tournament every year. That's a potential
positive for Arizona basketball. So I'm not

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surprised that that's the direction they went
because when you look at what their priority

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is and you look at where they
make their money, that option I think

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was pretty appealing. Yeah, we
always have you on during these moments with

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Sean when Shane's getting that goal,
we had you on, Den. What

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do you make of the brand now
Fish doing what he's doing in football and

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Tommy Lloyd in basketball. Yeah,
Look, in football it's never going to

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be I don't think an elite program
or anything like that. But can they

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get to a point where they're winning
you know, seven eight games would get

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to a ball sure, and that
should be, at least for now where

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their focus is and if their recruiting
is improving it seems to be, then

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they're gonna have a chance to get
there. As far as the basketball situation,

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look, I think Tommy Lloyd knows
what he's doing, Like he's proven

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over the first two years to be
a really good coach who knows what kind

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of players they can get and all
that stuff. But they've got to fix

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their issue in the tournament. That's
for sure, Like, yeah, his

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first few years, they haven't played
well in the tournament, and that's that's

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how you get judged in this day
and agent college basketball is how far you

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advanced in the tournament. They have
not played to their seed, and that's

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a problem, but it's certainly something
that can be fixed. And I think

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overall, you look at the big
picture of Arizona basketball, they're in good

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shape and I think they're going to
be good regardless of what leak they're in.

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All right, back on back on
the football thing, I've been saying

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that let's presume time Jetfish, you
know, gets this, gets the program

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you're rolling to maybe as you said, maybe a regular seven or eight win

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team, but you know, with
a chance to do some things. I

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feel that they actually have a better
chance of being competitive at the top level

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in the Big twelve than they ever
would have or ever did in the in

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the Pac twelve because they don't have
a usc that they're never going to get

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passed. They don't have a Washington, Oregon that they're never going to outrecruit,

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00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.559
even in Washington that they're not going
to outrecruit. I know TCU was

406
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.799
in the National Championship last year in
Oklahoma State has been pretty good over the

407
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.000
years, but there isn't a USC
or an Oregon in the Big Twelve as

408
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:27.920
it relates to primarily recruiting in football, and I feel like Arizone is actually

409
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.519
in a better spot to compete,
you know, for say, for a

410
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.319
championship in the Big Twelve than in
the in the Pactolf Your thoughts on that,

411
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.039
well, the one thing about the
Big Twelve that I think is really

412
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:45.160
important to remember is that it's an
extremely well coached league. You've got great

413
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.079
coaches up and down. Chris Kleman, a Kansas State, amazing coach,

414
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.640
Lance Lighthol, the Kansas phenomenal coach, you know, David Randa, Baylor

415
00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:00.519
really good. So I think that's
where you're going to see, you know,

416
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.279
how competitive Arizona can be and how
good of a coach Jetfish really is

417
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.519
because when they go into that league, every single week, you're matching up

418
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.240
with a coach who really knows what
they're doing. I mean, sunny nights

419
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.880
at TCU, I mean, it's
just on down the line. It's really

420
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.039
one of the best coach leagues in
the country. It should be fun.

421
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.720
It should be fun, okay,
but anything else Yeah, well no,

422
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.839
let's well, let's go back to
basketball. I mean, the Pact,

423
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.480
the Big Twelve as a conference is
going to be just incredible, don't you

424
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.519
think. Oh yeah, look the
last couple of years, if you look

425
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:40.880
at all the statistical ratings, it's
been incredibly deep, great teams, elite

426
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:47.599
teams. You know, obviously Kansas
and Baylor won national championships recently. But

427
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:53.480
you know again TCU with Jamie Dixon
like incredibly cough team to play every you

428
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:59.400
know, night in the night out. You know, Cincinnati is kind of

429
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.920
trying to get their stuff back together, but I've heard they've got you know,

430
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.880
really good NIL set up, and
I think they're gonna be super competitive.

431
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.160
You know, Kansas, Kansas State
making the Elite eight last year.

432
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:17.519
There's there's high quality programs in that
league. Without question. Yeah, okay,

433
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.319
Well, Dan, we appreciate your
time as usual. Thank you,

434
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.839
Thanks all right, man, thank
you You read read Dan on USA Today's

435
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.279
out there doing a lot of stuff. You follow him on, follow him

436
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.319
on social media and stuff. You
know, one of the guys I met

437
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.480
him at the UH at the West
Regional in uh in Vegas this last year.

438
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.799
Very close. I've known it for
a long time. He was covering

439
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:42.079
Memphis. When when when Kevin O'Neill
took Memphis two Girls on it to Memphis

440
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.119
back in the day, in the
fourteen years ago, the good old days

441
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.279
being good old days. Yeah,
all right, man, you're headed o.

442
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:53.960
Okay, I'm headed out. I'm
going up to the uh watch the

443
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.599
Dodgers Diamondbacks game up in Phoenix.
It's a it's a kind of a family

444
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.519
birthday kind of thing for me and
my grandson's gonna go to this first baseball

445
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.519
game. And he's he's all seven
months old, so I'm sure he'll remember

446
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.880
the Yeah, yeah, you'll take
pictures. Actually, he's almost eight months

447
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.119
old, so he really might remember. Yeah, you might do. Is

448
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.039
there a Dodger sign? No,
but we're all gonna well, we all

449
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:15.359
got the gear man, Okay,
we all got you won't be able to

450
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.799
miss us. Okay, okay,
you're a Dodger. You're not a dog.

451
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.039
Oh good, thank you? You
have a favorite based now I don't

452
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.559
really you're a basketball dude. I'm
basketball football. Yeah, okay, all

453
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.680
right, Hey Steve, thanks a
bunch man. Thanks for giving me the

454
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.440
rest of the afternoon. Appreciate it. Be safe, all right, I'll

455
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.279
see you guys tomorrow. Yeah,
be safe on that road up there.

456
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Okay, cool, it's Jason I
the rest of the way. If you

457
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guys want to call, please do. We'll probably take the break now.

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and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen
fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I

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on the Ball, hear on Fox
Sports fourteen. Cookie, I'm Steve Rivera.

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Jay took up to Google a baseball
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here with me to finish out the
next fourteen minutes. If you'd like to

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515
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four, one, thirty four forty. That'll be great to talk about

516
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what I'm talking about. Jason,
you've been too of all the practices like

517
00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:00.920
five or six, seven, missed
one. What are your first impressions?

518
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.800
If the first five, I would
say, the defense is looking a lot

519
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.880
better guys last year, Yeah,
because you were there last year. Yeah,

520
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.559
yeah, I was there last year. I think the defensive line looking

521
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.760
no bigger, faster. You know, DB's corners looking a lot smarter.

522
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.519
They're moving a lot better, making
better reads over ROSSI unit guys are just

523
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.199
like you know, inflow with one
another lot a lot, a lot better

524
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:28.199
than last year. I don't know, just you know, everyone's kind of

525
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.000
taking the next step in their development, and you can really see it with

526
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.639
each practice. Sure, I've been
liking what I've been saying so far.

527
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.360
Sure, Sure, And then that's
the big question done on that side of

528
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.920
the ball. I think I think
the dbs and the say, you know

529
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.159
that back area is going to be
huge because they weren't that good. No,

530
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.920
So we'll see what happens. I
think the addition of ding a Keena

531
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.639
coaching. I'm sure you notice him. I mean you can't. You cannot

532
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.920
not notice everywhere you're going, no
matter what field you're on, you could

533
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.320
just hear him like yelling, felling
guys to do. And it's not yelling

534
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.800
yelling, you know, it's just
like his energy, just kind of energy

535
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.400
like no matter where you like,
just you know, feel it. We

536
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.039
Jay and I covered him thirty five
years ago and the same dude. This

537
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.880
is an older dude, Like it
was a little slower, but the voice

538
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.440
is there and it's not so much
getting on the guys, it's instructing the

539
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.360
guys with his voice. Yeah,
does that make sense? Yeah? And

540
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.840
the guys they you know, they
work well with them, They you know,

541
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.000
love him. They you could tell
like he's making them, you know,

542
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.159
so much better players, right writing
there, right, And I think

543
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:37.960
you played ball for something too,
You you play dudes, play harder for

544
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.079
these guys because one, they don't
want to disappoint them, right of course,

545
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.719
yeah, and they didn't want to
disappoint coaches. But these guys,

546
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.960
you feel you have an obligation to
play harder. Yeah, I mean,

547
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.280
if you have that connection with you
know, certain coaches, you just want

548
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.280
to play harder for them, right
really, And he could just tell,

549
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.119
like's watching these guys where they you
know, talk with him, they work

550
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.960
with them, just have that special
bond. You know. At some point

551
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.599
I'm gonna write my my, my
doing a key to story. He made

552
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.480
something that was made very sense.
He's obviously he worked for Dictomy many years

553
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.039
ago and went to Texas and went
to Stanford. We went all these places.

554
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.519
And he said, back in the
day with under Dictomy, Uh,

555
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.960
they they coached them hard. Yeah, they demanded to coach them hard,

556
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.000
but they loved them up too.
Yeah. And I'm thinking that's exactly how

557
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.719
you should be a coach exactly.
Definitely. I mean obviously, you know,

558
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.599
coach of players, you know,
discipline hard, but you also gotta

559
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.760
you know, love them, goes
back, you know, be there for

560
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.079
them and all that. So and
I mean he's doing after the players right

561
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.519
now. I think in the in
the long run, it's only it's only

562
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:38.880
going for better players. Right.
Well, we'll see what happens. I

563
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.639
think you've gone on the record with
me at least six wins, yeah,

564
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.639
six wins a regular season. Yeah. So and then if they get to

565
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.280
the to the playoffs. You know, I bet Jay five, five,

566
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.360
maybe six. And I said that
only because other teams are getting better too.

567
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.599
Yeah. You see Arizona getting better. Yeah, I see Arizona getting

568
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.000
better. Yeah, but you know
everyone else is also going to get better

569
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.280
as well, right, and the
circumstances of no injuries and things like that,

570
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.400
and yeah, things always come up. Yeah, you never know.

571
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.639
It's a lot of unknown football.
So I mean, I just kind of

572
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.639
expect our guys tick on next step
and I believe he's gonna, you know,

573
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.800
get us in another winner too.
So yeah, yeah, no question.

574
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.039
In fact, I was going through
Twitter just now and a guy named

575
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:29.039
CJ. Vogel. He's he's a
Twitter guy. I don't really follow Twitter

576
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.880
because everyone has an opinion, and
I you know, okay, good,

577
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.000
good for you. He's the t
t FB, the football braining acts.

578
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.320
I guess he has a Twitter account
or Facebook or whatever with He covers Texas

579
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:45.000
and Oklahoma football, and he's part
of the Action Network. He's a college

580
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:50.960
football contributor, and he has Arizona
in the in the new Big twelve.

581
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:58.280
Who do you think he has Arizona
of the sixteen teams I say, like

582
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.239
some between seven nine right in the
middle. I feel like, oh wow,

583
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.360
no, no way, So so
fifteenth. That's why I bring it

584
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.800
up. I'm thinking, holy crap. If if he says, if I

585
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.719
had to predict the new Big twelve
standings over the next five years, who's

586
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.960
the last one? Was West Virginia? Okay, yeah, I mean West

587
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.480
Virginia. So so he has I'll
just go through real quick, TCU,

588
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:29.360
Okay, I get it. Texas
Tech, Kansas State, Utah, Houston.

589
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.159
I think Houston, Utah is gonna
be higher, Houston, uh uc

590
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.239
B, y U B YU probably
be up to Oklahoma State, Baylor,

591
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:43.599
Cincinnati, Arizona State, Colorado,
Kansas. I would stay and then there

592
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:49.639
was high This is over the next
five years. No, I don't.

593
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.159
I don't see. This is the
reason why Twitter is Twitter. Yeah,

594
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.840
everybody has an opinion, and not
that I don't need to agree or agree

595
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:58.639
or whatever. Yeah, but this
is a little far fetched. Definitely.

596
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.599
I mean, I feel like we're
definitely a middle of the pack. I

597
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.880
would say, no worse than ten
ten. We're definitely not like a top

598
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.559
five team. I feel like,
sure, but we should definitely be somewhere

599
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:15.000
in the middle. If history repeats
at some point, there was one will

600
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.639
get him the top five. Yeah, and then they'll fall back out right,

601
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.320
yeah, you know, because that's
the history. They played really well

602
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.320
for a year or two and then
they tumble back and then kind of find

603
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.199
their way. Yeah for sure.
Yeah. So I just found that to

604
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.760
be kind of interested in. And
how does he figure six five years?

605
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.480
No, there was one will be
better than that. And in basketball probably

606
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.000
in the top four. Yeah,
top four, maybe one or two every

607
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.360
now and again, for sure,
but top four for sure. Yeah.

608
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.239
For basketball, we're definitely gonna be
one of the best teams in the conference

609
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.079
every year. I feel like,
so, yeah, are you gonna be

610
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.239
covering basketball or no? Football?
Not really. I might cover like a

611
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.679
game or two or something. You're
in there, but it'll be most of

612
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:57.639
those football the whole you're looking forward
to. Are you gonna travel I'll go

613
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760
to Phoenix for days your game that
just because you're not Are you not the

614
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.039
main guy? No, No,
you're just one of the bosses. Yeah

615
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.760
yeah, not just but you know
what I'm yeah, yeah, okay,

616
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.280
cool, cool again. If you
guys want to call him, please do

617
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.039
five two four, seventy four forty
we could talk about whatever. Anybody.

618
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:16.599
Were you there yesterday for Justin Flow? Justin Flow? Yeah, how bizarre

619
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.880
was that? It's funny kind of
just you know, seeing his you know,

620
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.280
personality a little bit. He was
at your first time seen him,

621
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.159
I'm not seeing him. You saw
him springing. Yeah, so so I

622
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.960
had never seen justin Flow. He
walks in and he looks like Donna like

623
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.440
you know this, yeah, this
dude. Yeah, this dude like you

624
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.559
know, you don't want to mess
with me? And his as Yeah,

625
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.320
he's like he's a dude like I
dream of being when I was a kid,

626
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.639
but not really because it's too much
work. So then he kept and

627
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.960
then he sits at the table and
he has these facial expressions that are kind

628
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.960
of like weird to me, but
you know, he can kind of trying

629
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.760
to tell story. You know,
I think this guy cool. Whatever,

630
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.119
you don't want to soup. And
then yesterday he shows up and then it

631
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.920
has his interview. Yeah, to
me, it was a little bizarre.

632
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.360
I mean, I think his personality
and he show him so what do what

633
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.719
do you read of him? I
mean, I think it's really cool,

634
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.280
like from the energy I get from. He's like really cool, down to

635
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.280
earth kind of guy. He's friendly, friendly with everyone. I like everyone

636
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.320
on the team like really likes him
and like looks toward him like leadership and

637
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.280
advice. He seems like a really
just cool guy. He's bringing a huge

638
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.679
reputation to being a pretty good player. Yeah. That that that that's I

639
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.679
think. I don't know if that
brings a lot of pressure. Did he

640
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.440
talk about that where he talks about
superheroes and all that stuff. Yeah,

641
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.719
but but once you've been labeled that
you have to kind of be that.

642
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.239
Yeah. I think he embraces it. Like he doesn't. It doesn't like

643
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.159
weigh him down or anything. And
he just you know, plays within himself.

644
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.599
He doesn't try and do too much. He plays a role he's been

645
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:43.360
assigned and he doesn't you know,
overthink he got He just plays ball,

646
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.519
honestly, and yeah comes naturally.
Have you seen him before, You've seen

647
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.719
him play before? Now then like
last year, because yeah, well it

648
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.840
obviously comes in with a big reputation. I think he's got to step up.

649
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.239
He's gotta be one of the guys. Yeah. Uh, let's see

650
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.760
if he is. Yeah, because
sometimes people with reputations don't don't. Yeah,

651
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.039
live up to it, live up
right right? Definitely? Yeah,

652
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.000
yeah, Yeah. When I saw
the interview, I was thinking, Holly,

653
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.119
Molly, this is a little bizarre
because I'm sure he talked more about

654
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.920
other things, and did you talked
about, you know, his expectations,

655
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.760
how they've been looking so far,
the defense and whatnot. But I know

656
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:22.079
that that one quote about the villain
and all that heam everything. Yeah,

657
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.480
I was posting on whatnot. But
yeah, we got a call. Hello,

658
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.280
guys, you're here on EH in
the ball? Hey, how's it

659
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.920
going? Guys? Good? What's
the word I got? I'm looking up?

660
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.159
You have a all time records versus
a big bulls schools super we have

661
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:47.079
Baylor five and five? Are you
talking basketball? Football? It just says

662
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.000
you have a all time records.
I don't know if it's oh basketball,

663
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.480
I don't believe basketball there makes sense? Sorry. So Baylor five and five?

664
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:02.079
Uh? B y u is twenty
and nineteen, Cincinnati four Oh?

665
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.920
Okay? Uh? Colorado twenty two
and fifteen, Houston six and six?

666
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.159
Okay? I a Idaho state?
I don't know. No, I will

667
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:17.639
state it's I will state. Yeah, sorry, four and three? Kansas,

668
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.880
Uh? We got four and eight. We're not doing very good there.

669
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:29.360
Kansas State six and eight, Ohio
State, UH three and oh TCU

670
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:34.719
one and two, Texas Tech twenty
three, twenty eight, UCF nothing.

671
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:40.719
I guess we'd ever played them before
you thirty six and thirty one, West

672
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:46.000
Virginia three and two, then a
s U one hundred and fifty seven to

673
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.280
eighty seven. So I don't know, man, it's looking kind of good,

674
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.559
you know. Will you say you
said, Ohio State, it's Oklahoma

675
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.480
State, Well, it's it's probably
Are you from Tucson. Have you followed

676
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.119
Arizona basketball for a while, oh, Tuson? Yeah? Okay, so

677
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.320
let me ask you. Let me
tell you those numbers don't really stand out,

678
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:12.000
right, because because Arizona's basketball is
should be dominating maybe every one of

679
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.559
them, but maybe two. And
that's the Kansas series because Kansas is Kansas

680
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.920
and what else? Did you kind
of say Oklahoma State? Uh? They're

681
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.599
all kind of almost similar except for
the Arizona State one. But it's gonna

682
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.400
be fun, it's gonna be competitive, and they liked their basketball in the

683
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:37.000
Big twelve. Yeah, they all
feel kind of not like we've been losing

684
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.440
or we've been dominated. It feels
like it's mostly one of those numbers come

685
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.519
from the good old days when Ariz
gonna play Texas Tech and they played by

686
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:51.440
U earlier, they played you know, those types of schools before, because

687
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.360
I thought they would dominate pretty much
the Houston and one of the last times

688
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.920
they saw I played them. They
played them in the in the tournament a

689
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.239
couple of years ago. But before
that, Jared Jared bag Us played against

690
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.679
them back in the day, but
Nick Budding Gear played against them. So

691
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.639
it's it's a series that I'm looking
forward to. I don't know about you,

692
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:13.159
but I'm really looking forward to this. Yeah, I'm totally excited.

693
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.599
At first, I was kind of
scared, you know, like Kansas,

694
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:21.480
oh man, uh no, if
you have watched the FSA Bowl here in

695
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.920
town and we beat them and it
was amazing. A long time ago,

696
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.599
great, a long time ago.
Yeah, a long time ago, but

697
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.760
you know, so I was kind
of afraid. But yeah, seeing these

698
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:32.760
numbers, it's like, you know
what, maybe we've got a good shot

699
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.559
at mare. Get your get your
tickets now, man, if you don't

700
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.679
have them, get your tickets now. Hey, thanks, Thanks, what's

701
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.159
your name? Thanks? For thanks
to thanks all right, all right,

702
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.159
no good call. I thought the
numbers would be bigger. Yeah. I

703
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.400
also right, A lot of them
are kind of closed like that. I

704
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.920
thought we would have good. A
lot of them are from way back in

705
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:57.000
the day everyone you know before yeah, before Luke showed up Texas Tech.

706
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.760
I can't remember the last time they
played Texas Tech. Kansas State. They

707
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.239
paid him maybe ten, fifteen,
twenty years ago. Utah, of course,

708
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.199
Houston, like I said with with
a couple of years ago in the

709
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:13.000
tournament, back when Chase Bunninger and
and those guys played. So it's gonna

710
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.519
be a lot of fun. Yeah, a lot of fun. Yeah,

711
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.639
when they come here West Virginia.
So you know, if you don't get

712
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.800
your hundred tickets, you're gonna have
to go to get those babies scalped.

713
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.159
Yeah. So I guess now,
do you feel like Arizona has a pretty

714
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.000
good edge over most of those schools, right Kansas? Yeah? Yeah,

715
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:31.639
Yeah, that's why I think they're
gonna finish in the top four for sure.

716
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.480
Okay, and I say four,
that's being conservative. I think Tommy's

717
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.199
gonna be able to be able to
do very well, but Houston's on the

718
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:45.519
rise, not to Baylor's on the
rise obviously, just wanted title a few

719
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.320
years ago. And and other schools
are very good, you know, just

720
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.159
very good for sure, Okay,
and competitive the artists competitive they are,

721
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.400
they are so as an alump,
as an a lump. Could you'll be

722
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.400
done this year? You're probably upset
that you won't be able to deal with

723
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:00.960
you Yeah, I mean I was
kind of looking forward to going through the

724
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:05.760
new conference though, kind of seeing
the new different schools and the competition and

725
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.119
all that. But I mean,
you know, see as an alarm as

726
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.760
a fan, this is your head
when I always tell you this, I

727
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.800
always tell you this because we you
know, you're one of our interns.

728
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:17.360
Yeah, and I think that I
would send resumes to some of these places,

729
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:22.440
Okay, some of these places to
have sports programs whatever. You get

730
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.000
to see Arizone every now and again, but still be part of a college

731
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:30.000
town, a college town that's big
on sports. Yeah, and you can't

732
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:31.360
lose. You know, I came
here thinking I'll be here a couple of

733
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.840
years and I'll leave and go to
bigger market. Yeah, come on,

734
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.960
this is a pretty good place to
be. Yeah, good school to cover

735
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.039
in a good town. Yeah,
good people all that. Yeah, so

736
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.760
it is what it is. But
that's what I would do. I would

737
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:45.920
just kind of look at these places
to send your resumes. Yeah, maybe

738
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.719
someone will bite Okay, I'll do
that, Okay, okay, Hey,

739
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.039
thanks for joining us for the rest
of the show here, Thanks for coming

740
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.159
in. Jay's out. I will
see him tomorrow when he comes back from

741
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.440
the Dodger game, if he's not
too depressed. Thanks for the calls,

742
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:04.039
and we'll how do you guys tomorrow. Don't believe me, just whine.

743
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.760
Don't believe me, just whine.
Don't