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The original aired eight 19 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:08,120 September the seventeenth of nineteen fifty and the title is James Vickers. Here's another 20 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:20,639 inn NBC's great parade of new shows. Ladies, Chap, The story you 21 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,439 are about to hear is true, only the names have been changed to protect 22 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:39,400 the innocence. NBC brings you Dragnet and you are a detective sergeant. You're 23 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:46,719 assigned a homicide bureau. A police officer has been shot mortally wounded. One 24 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:51,719 of the suspects has been apprehended. The other is still at large. Your 25 00:02:51,800 --> 00:03:00,400 job will find him. Dragnet that documented drama of an actual crime, investigated 26 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,520 and solved by the men who unrelentingly stand watch on the security of your home, 27 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:07,120 your family, and your life. All the next thirty minutes. In 28 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:12,360 cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel, step by step 29 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,159 on the side of the law through an actual case from official police files, 30 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:21,039 run beginning to end, run crime to punishment. Drag Net is the story 31 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:30,000 of your police force in action. It was Thursday, November sixteenth, was 32 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,919 foggy in Los Angeles. We're working a day watch out of homicide. My 33 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:37,680 partner's Ben Romero. The boss is at backstrand Supid Detectives. My name is 34 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,719 Friday. It was eleven fifty eight a m. When we got to the 35 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:46,560 Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, second floor, Room five, treatment room. A 36 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,240 very good time. How's mused done? Gundon and lungs been three times going 37 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 fast? His wife with him. They're bringing him down now. Can we 38 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:00,719 talk to him? He'll make it fast. Come on you sway easy, 39 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:10,199 John, John is Friday and Romera. I didn't want to talk to you 40 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,639 a minute. Doctor doct burns my chest burning off? Nurse? Yes? 41 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:25,040 Doctor or the hypodemic? Yes, doctor Hyde. All right, fas, 42 00:04:25,439 --> 00:04:29,000 don't take too long. John. It's Joe Friday. Can you tell us 43 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,879 how it happened? Joe, Joe, how it happened? Boy? Can 44 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,279 you tell me? Can't figure it? Joe? Why do you do it? 45 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,480 We gotta find out how that happened. I don't know. I was 46 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,959 directing traffic. He's Broadway in the first Street. Great Cooper pulled up for 47 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,600 the stop. Great Cooper. How many men in the car? How many? 48 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:58,360 John? Two? Great Coop pulled up for the stop, and the 49 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,360 pedestrian. Pedestrian went over. I'm gonna ask him to back up, back 50 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:06,040 up bout a lane. Just gonna ask him, Yeah, John, And 51 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:14,160 then what driver? Dark hair, eyes dark went over. We're gonna gonna 52 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,160 ask him back up? Pointed the gun? No reason, point the gun 53 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,079 at me? All right, easy, John, take it easy? No 54 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,319 reason, Joe, no reason he fired? I heard Phil, Yeah, 55 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,560 yil. What about the other man in the car? Did you see him? 56 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,759 And he describe him? Yo? Yo? Did you get him? 57 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Great Coop? Driver guy with him? We've got the driver, johnnys upstairs. 58 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,480 The other one got away. We gotta find him. You gotta help 59 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:41,360 us my wife. Somebody Send for Dora. She's on her way. She'll 60 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:43,160 be here in a minute. Now. Can you tell us the other man 61 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 in the car? What did he look like? What did he look like? 62 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,120 Joel, Great Cooper? The driver, part of the gun, dark 63 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,439 hair? Yeah, old the other man? John, We got the driver. 64 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,800 What did the other man look like? Send for Dora? Come on, 65 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:10,839 Ben, Thanks Dodd, okay, Joe, I'm going fast. Yes, 66 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:16,959 John got any kids to always pick up? Family? Man, this 67 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:19,160 thing's got a phony ring to it. Ben. You don't just pull a 68 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,079 gun and shoot'em. Man, Now, if you're singing, you don't. 69 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Here's a stairs. The guy we got as a sin as they come, 70 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,720 And how do we explain it? All I know is that who had shot 71 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,000 John beamis and I want a why? Uh might be a lead in that 72 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,839 car he was driving. Maybe come on here we are phone message for you. 73 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:39,920 Friday came in a few moments ago. Thanks Davis fromar and I. 74 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,040 They gotta manke. Take a look at no make or Warren's on James Vicker's 75 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:54,120 gray. Let's talk to him. Come on, yeah, minor wound Joe. 76 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,480 The bullet penetrated the fleshy part of his hands, didn't touch the bone. 77 00:06:57,519 --> 00:06:59,839 But this guy had an arm wound too. Just a nick man. 78 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:04,519 That officer you shot Vickers? He's dying? Is he? The family? 79 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,959 Guy? Got a wife? Two kids? Has he? Why did you 80 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,399 shoot him? Bigger? Ask him? We did? And you know the 81 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:15,199 reason said? There wasn't any reason. That's right. Look, we're gonna 82 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:16,879 make you on this. Vickers. You know that, don't you. I 83 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:19,160 don't know anything. Why you shoot him? Shut up? Why I showed 84 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:26,120 him? Joe? Yeah, Davis, stay with him. Dot get us 85 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,879 an empty slip on this guy when he would be backing on the minute. 86 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,839 Come on, man, all right, Joel, I have it right too, 87 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:35,079 punk easy, Joe always he nothing. I've seen too many good cops 88 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:38,480 like Beamus cut down by punks like that. Vickers, you have the mad 89 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:42,720 wont hail? Come on down the stairs. Yeah, back to see Bamous. 90 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Why? Just for the record, I want to see if the doc 91 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,720 thinks it's okay for it to bring Vickers down. I like to have Famous 92 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 definitely identify him as the guy who shot him. We've got three good witnesses. 93 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:54,040 An identification for memas will clench it. I want to see Vickers get 94 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:07,600 everything he's doing when he goes to court. Well, yes he went fast. 95 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,519 Yeah. And his wife, yeah she make it in time. No 96 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:20,720 did he say anything? Did help mine? He said? A prayer? 97 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,559 City Hall six two five oral records Currently Joe Friday, Vince, what about 98 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,519 to make on that car using the Beama shooting? This morning, John, 99 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,080 gentlemen trying to get ahold of it. Where are you not. Georgia Street, 100 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,279 second floor? What about to make col was reported s Tolen yesterday afternoon, 101 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,320 registered to Harold Simpers seven to one six EVERARTT Street. What's that? 102 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:01,879 The car was taken from a parking lot of Grand and Walbash. Okay, 103 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Vince, thanks? What about the guns they found in the car? Well? 104 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,600 Jones still has them over the crime lab. He's running him through, 105 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,919 no words? Yeah, no, you make out the mun report on the 106 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,799 car, Jo, Yeah, recovery report too. They're still dustin for preks 107 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,080 empty slip, righty don yeah right here Ben? Ready a card history MT 108 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,759 slip They're ready? Vickers? Yeah, all right, put out your wrists, 109 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,360 put the cuffs on him, then watch his hands. You're saving me 110 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,799 for the high lights. All right, let's go. I'm not quite a 111 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:37,440 jail. We're in jail now. Looks like a hospital. Bars on the 112 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,559 windows on? All right, come on give me a smoke here? Okay, 113 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:52,000 Lie? What do I get if I open up? No deal? 114 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,879 Might talk make it attractive? Who was the other guy in the car? 115 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,559 Bit track? I always give ride? And why do you run when we 116 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:05,519 chase you? Maybe he was scared you're part of a game. Maybe who 117 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,200 was the other guy. What's it worth? Come on, victause, you're 118 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:22,799 wasting our time. Where we're going? All right? My hand hurts. 119 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:33,080 I want to call my own doctor. You hear me. I cop pulled 120 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,799 his gun first. I can prove it. Yeah, down the stairs, 121 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:48,480 hut. Where we're going? I said, where we're going? All right? 122 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:52,759 What's it worth? If I talk? I can tell you all about 123 00:10:52,759 --> 00:11:00,799 it. Let's make a deal. You don't tell us anyhow, I think 124 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:05,200 so? All right? You off the door? Uh wait a minute? 125 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,320 Cigarettes us all right? Ben lighted. Yeah, nice see you guys. 126 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,159 Thanks, Yeah, play off the stop. He's bossing the streets. Power 127 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,759 over his head, watch the cops. Cigre Joe, he's un for that 128 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:28,320 car. He's up. Come on, Joe, I want it back. 129 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Wait, let us throw here. Let us throw so I call him doctor 130 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:39,120 Joe. No, he wouldn't be interested. The guys did. James Vickers 131 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,840 murder suspect address unknown died almost instantly at one thirteen pm November sixteenth, while 132 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,360 attempting to escape. His body was taken to the County Morgue, where it 133 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:52,000 was posted. All the personal effects found on the body were listed by the 134 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,159 corner and a receipt for them given to our office at eight thirty five. 135 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,519 The next morning, Ben and I met with Chief detectives at Backstrand. Those 136 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,080 four guns they found in the car Vickers was driving. They're all US Army 137 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,200 property. Where were they stolen from? Coover? I don't know. Each 138 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,480 one of the guns is stamped US Army. That's all that makes it easy 139 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,360 the coroner find anything on the body and nothing to tell us why Vickers decided 140 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,639 to kill a traffic though. What did Beemas say before he died? He 141 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,000 was on traffic due yesterday morning down at East Broadway in the first ten thirty 142 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:24,240 five of a great coup pulled up for a stop sign. Vickers was driving. 143 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,919 Beamus started over to tell him to back up out of the pedestrian zone. 144 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,200 Vickers pulled a gun and shot him. How'd they catch? Figures chased 145 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,200 him three miles before he powed into a lumber truck. The guy with him 146 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,919 got away. Fine, checked or I home maker warrants on Vikers kickbacks? 147 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Not in on his fingerprint? All right? What's your guests Friday? I 148 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,759 don't have one. Ed Vickers could have been hopped up. Doug Stanley over 149 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,039 Georgia Street said no, he checked him. Wait a minute Backstrandonah, hold 150 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:58,000 on for you to Friday sad things Friday talking. Yeah, yeah, good, 151 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,960 be right over. Lee. We're in the said crime lab. Just 152 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:11,039 found Vickers address. It is Joe. Thanks Lee. Let's see silver Dollar 153 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,960 Hotel received of mister James Vickers. Six dollars and fifty cents, Room three 154 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:20,039 forty five. Where'd you find anything out of the front seat, in with 155 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,600 the tools, anything else? Not a thing? How about prints too kind 156 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,399 of smudged. Hope we can run a make with them. No prints on 157 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,360 those four guns smeared? Not enough to classify? This is it? Then? 158 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:33,919 It's all we've got. Come on, let' see if we can make 159 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:41,879 it payoff. We located the Silver Dollar Hotel on East Grand between sixteenth Street 160 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:46,159 and Pico. Was an old type frame building with a brightly colored neon sign 161 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,360 jutting out over the sidewalk just above the dark entrance. The manager's name was 162 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Luther Gage. We showed him a picture of James Vickers. He definitely identified 163 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,559 him as one of his former tenants. He told us that Vickers had stayed 164 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,240 at the hotel one week in three five, and that he had checked out 165 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:07,039 two days ago. Was Vickersteen here alone? Miss Gay? Yes? Alone? 166 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,039 Quiet man? Did he have any visitors? Maybe? Wouldn't know? 167 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Paid his bills, spend most of his time away from the hotel, good 168 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:18,480 tenant. Did Vickers have any friends here in the hotel? Maybe fell in 169 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:22,759 the room next to mister Victor's. He still lives here. Two of them 170 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:24,799 used to be kind of thick. Can we look at that room Vickers stayed 171 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:30,679 in, mister Gage, let's see, yes, it's still vacant, all 172 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:35,799 right. This way, this man Vickers was friendly with what's his name? 173 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:41,639 Gay Night? Raymond Knight? Room three four? Three's in his room now? 174 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:50,799 No, went out about eight this morning. Here's the elevator. How 175 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,720 well would you say Knights and Vickers knew each other? Couldn't say? Good 176 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:58,039 tenants. Both of them pay their bills, they go out together, seem 177 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,440 to know each other well, wouldn't No, I don't cry, but this 178 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,879 case involves murder. Mister Gage, we told you that we'd appreciate your cooperation. 179 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Cooperation, don't pay the rant, Sergeant rd Flora. This way here 180 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:24,480 three four or five? Open it up? Nothing? Yeah? Oh here, 181 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Ed looks pretty clean. You know all my rooms are clean. He 182 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,200 didn't mean it that way, mister Gage, wonder if you'd chow us Night's 183 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:43,440 room though that's next door in the HM. I don't know about this poking 184 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,080 into other people's rooms. Not regular, neither's murder. Come on, let's 185 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,399 go. Does mister Knight have this room to himself? Sure? Ask questions, 186 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,799 don't you? No? Knight has a friend staying with him about two 187 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,039 weeks now, not in much see in No, don't think so? Oh 188 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,080 I want it? Don't drop at you all that shot, mister Kate for 189 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:27,519 got cork it up here, Ben, he's out cold. Look what you've 190 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:32,559 done to the room. I thought you said Nike wasn't in He isn't. 191 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,240 This is his friend, great friends. Forty five automatic in his hand, 192 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,039 thirty eight snub nose in the bureau, another forty five look in his bag. 193 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,840 I don't pry. He pays his bills good tenant? Yeah? Can 194 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,480 I get outside on this phone? Yes? All outside calls are ten cents. 195 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Yeah here, I have to keep the book straight. Sure you do. 196 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Who's gonna pay for the dammage? Ask mister Knight's friend here? Well, 197 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:07,079 say why worry? He pays his bills good tenant, I called ed 198 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,160 Backstrand and he sent out a special detail to stake out the hotel and bring 199 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,839 in Raymond Knight if when he returned, Ben and I drove to the Georgia 200 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,640 Street Receiving Hospital, where Doc Stanley patched up the cut on Ben's scalp and 201 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,599 treated Raymond Knight's friend for simple cuts and bruises. From papers found in his 202 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,519 wallet and in the hotel room, he was identified as Frank Gannon ninety eight 203 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,680 ninety six Wassat Street, Kansas City, Missouri. When we got the headquarters, 204 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,799 we had Gannon taken to the interrogation room, where we questioned him briefly. 205 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,759 He told us that he was a self employed watch salesman, that he 206 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:41,519 was in the city on a business trip. He admitted friendship with Knight, 207 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,400 but not with Vickers. We booked him at the Cotty Jail for assault with 208 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,279 a tent to commit murder. The three guns found in the hotel room were 209 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:55,240 turned over the crime lab. We reported back to the office. Show my 210 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,640 head's pound in my at Gannon's and mean, yeah, it's a nasty crack 211 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:07,000 I masspring in my desk, might have yeah, alright, boys rough days. 212 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,960 I don't get much rough or any message way on the desk. Now 213 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:15,319 I'm gonna eat starting right, Rason. What is jo Jones gotta make on 214 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,960 those prints he lifted off the car. Let's see, yeah, something else? 215 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,000 And now on James Bakers watted ten fourteen forty three desertion US Army that 216 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,640 could have come for those stolen army guns? Yeah, what about the make 217 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:33,119 on those Prince Lee found. Let's take a look vance Taylor's good solid record 218 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:40,920 for burglaries, two armed robberies to assault when here's the Marma sheet, mo 219 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,599 and so on, so age thirty six alias John fields Hell Grant, Tom 220 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Bissel Jo Hey, yeah, alias Raymond Knight. The other man who rode 221 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,599 in the car with James Vickers the morning he shot down traffic officer Beamus finally 222 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:03,559 had been identified Vans Taylor alias Raymond Knight. Well, that still didn't explain 223 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:07,599 the unprovoked murder. He didn't explain the four guns found in the car or 224 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,359 the three guns found in the hotel room. An assortment of arms like that 225 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,599 could mean something big, but we didn't know what a gan in sudden willingness 226 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,599 to shoot it out in the hotel room meant something too. We didn't know 227 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:25,279 what we had. Gannon brought back to the interrogation room. Hi again, 228 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:32,400 have a say everything all right? I'll bet you're worried. No, we're 229 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,279 not worried, Ganon, you want to be, I'll make me laugh. 230 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,000 You're tied in with Raymond Knight. That's enough for a You send me up 231 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:42,240 for it. We're gonna try big talk. How long did you know Vickers? 232 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:45,920 I didn't do funny. He's punch were all over one of those guns 233 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,079 we found in your room. I'm not worrying. Then you better start, 234 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,839 Gannon, Vickers and Knight kill the man if you run with him. Your 235 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:56,079 hands are dirty too. Our room was night, that's all. Night didn't 236 00:19:56,079 --> 00:19:59,480 come back to the hotel wors. We're not that close to share your guns 237 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,400 and your friends. That's close enough for us. I don't know, Vicars. 238 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,400 You mean you didn't know it? I said, I don't know. 239 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:10,440 We got Vickers again and he's dead. Good story. Okay, come on 240 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:23,680 again, let's get out on the morning. On this way go cold to 241 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:27,599 day, isn't it. Yeah? It's damn yeah, No, what is 242 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,240 all this? You never seen the corpse before? No, I'm not in 243 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:34,119 this. Take me back. I don't want to look. You canna close 244 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,920 your eye. Take me back. I don't want to look. Hear me 245 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,799 I fellas slam twenty five This way again and I get sick. I don't 246 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:47,480 want to look. Throw back the sheet, Fred, take a dumb luck 247 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,680 again. No, he's Night's friend. I'm not in it. Who is 248 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:55,160 I don't know? I take me I don't sick, all right, friend? 249 00:20:55,279 --> 00:21:08,799 Things okay, Bud, interrogation room, Friday, Joe on steakout the 250 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:12,039 Silver Dollar Hotel. I was signing a Raymond Night gave you a post, 251 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 okay, Dave, thanks? How long does this go on? I can 252 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,240 call a lawyer, you know, and you better call one right away again. 253 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:19,640 And they just picked up Night at the hotel. He's incriminated you. 254 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,279 You're a liar. Sure like we worry about victors. Will provity again. 255 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:26,799 The officers are on their way in now. They're gonna put Night in the 256 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,880 next room. You can listen to them. Look, I came here to 257 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,119 sell watches. I ain't in there. Jannon, You and Vickers a night. 258 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,480 We're planning a job, a big one. We know that if you 259 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,480 want a way to get on the witness stand to tell your story. It's 260 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,000 all right with us. Didn't take too long to break this smoke youl. 261 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:48,960 Yeah thanks, Yeah, well, h what are you gonna do? Nothing? 262 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:52,319 Just kill a little time. They bring in knight. You haven't got 263 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,039 night. I haven't one wrapped to me yet. Joe wanna check me out? 264 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:03,960 Okay, open them up? Huh, give him a good shuffle. 265 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:08,799 Huh. You're gonna have some time on your hands, ganning. Want to 266 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:14,480 learn a new card game? Nah' sit yourself. It's a good game for 267 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,839 two, better with three. A lot of cars. Yeah, you got 268 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:23,079 two decks there. First off, this game is quite a bit like jin 269 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:29,079 Rummy. Yeah, there are eight of every suit four jokers. Jokers kind 270 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,559 of fifty points. Red three is kind of a hundred points each. If 271 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:36,200 you get a black three, you can freeze the deck. Oh, I 272 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,319 see, I shouldn't say deck. In this game they call it the pack 273 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,160 pack. What's a pack? Well, it's the discard file, same as 274 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,680 in Gin. You get a red three, you can freeze. No, 275 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,559 it's a black three. Well what happened when you freezer? Nobody can pick 276 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,880 it up? Oh? I see all right, I want to steal a 277 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,799 lot of dummy hand here. Fine Gamegan, I'm sure you won't change your 278 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:03,440 mind. He didn't want to play you. All right, now, I'm 279 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,279 two handed. You deal out fifteen cards. See how many? Can play? 280 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,960 As many as six? I think I've only played up to four. 281 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:14,839 You play partners with four? Yeah, that's fair. Okay, count your 282 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:19,359 cards. I think it's fifteen. Yeah, there's fine, fifteen right now? 283 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,240 Now what I do? Well, I guess you better let your hand 284 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,279 open. That'll be the easiest way to show you. Okay, I'll split 285 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,160 them all out over there. Well, you don't have a great hand there. 286 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,200 You got a couple of black threes. You can use those? Yeah, 287 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,160 it's fine. They kind of hundred a pieg No, no, no, 288 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 those are red threes. Black threes don't count anything. Oh, red 289 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:42,160 three, that's right. Do you remember what black threes are for? You 290 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,319 can use them to freeze a pove pack. That's right, the pack. 291 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,839 Well, you know what I mean? All right? Now? Look you 292 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,519 see I got a joker here. Jokers are wild. Do you remember how 293 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:55,000 much they count? They're wild? One hundred points. No, red threes 294 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,920 are worth a hundred. Jokers count fifty. You don't explain it very good. 295 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,400 I don't understand. How simple can it be? Again? Not even 296 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,079 playing? You get it, don't you get him? Okay, Red three's 297 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,960 kind of hunting Joker's count of fifty black threes. You can you can freeze 298 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 the the pack. Yeah good, Now hold lot of that with it. 299 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,920 Now, black threes freeze the pack. But that's not the only card that 300 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,599 can do it. No, No deuces can do the same thing. But 301 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240 you see the only difference is if you use a deuce, which is also 302 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,240 wild, you have to have a natural pair in order to pick up the 303 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:26,880 pack. Now with a black three, it's I knew it until I knew 304 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,559 it wouldn't work or sour. Right from the start, Vickers killed the cop 305 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,319 man. I'm not a limnedographer. I'm grabbing you and I'm taking old wraps, 306 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:40,319 Johnny, this stenographer right fast? All right, Kennon too late, 307 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,640 haven't got time. Twenty after one, they're gonna do it. What payroll 308 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,440 Frasier company messenger leaves one twenty, He's got the payroll thirty grand. They're 309 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,759 gonna get him. Where does the messenger leave one twenty? You're too late, 310 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,480 I'm not inn Where does he leave one twenty leaves the bank. I 311 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,519 think no, maybe the company. Where's the company? Third and Spring. 312 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,759 They're gonna get him. Where's the bank? The messenger goes to up the 313 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:06,000 block Second National, Third and Hill. Where they're going to get the messenger 314 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,960 by the alley Clay Street. I'm not in and check it. Get out 315 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,039 of communications. Haven't put out a call a block off the area. Give 316 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:15,680 them the details, right, Johnny, Yeah, stay with this guy, 317 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:37,880 okay. David Davis, Brazier, Brazier Manufacturing, Olympic h Good afternoon, 318 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,920 raise your manufacturing company. Give me a payroll division. There's a police department 319 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:49,440 emergency your payroll division. It's an emergency payroll Hopkins. Mister Hopkins, this 320 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,400 is Sergeant Friday, Police Department. We've had to tip your payroll messengers going 321 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,039 to be held up today. Has he left your building yet? The messenger? 322 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,599 Yeah, oh my, he left early today, went out the door 323 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:06,680 about to minutes ago. Thanks Second Nation, Second National. It's really Second 324 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:12,240 National. That's really Friday with all the acceptionments to break that games play in 325 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:18,559 a minute at no time. Good afternoon, Second National. Give me the 326 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,920 manager on duty, please emergency one moment, Please come on come on. 327 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,960 I'm sorry, sir, the line is busy. Would you get away? 328 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Give me the chief teller? Thank you. Cheve Taylor water Is sergeant Friday 329 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Police Department, emergency call. Has the payroll messenger from the Brazier company left 330 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,759 the bank yet? Well, I wouldn't know, Sergeant. Just a moment, 331 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:45,119 I'll have your call switched. Yeah, Operator Beatrice, would you give 332 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,440 this call the miss Chalmers? Uh, it's important, Thank you, mister 333 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:55,599 waters Is Chalmers, good afternoon. Ms Chalmers. What's a matter of Freddie? 334 00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,400 You're sick? Yeah, I'm sick, Chalmers. Ms. Charmers is 335 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400 a sergeant Friday Police Department. Has a payer messenger from the Brazier company left 336 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,799 the bank yet? Oh? Yes, and he had the payroll with him. 337 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Thanks, gotta kept on a payroll stick of bank. You coming, 338 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,519 then, let's go down this way. He's coming. Let's talk about down 339 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,839 the stairs communication, get the story, got it down there. Now, 340 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,599 where's this brazier coming in Third and the Spring about five blocks from here? 341 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:25,680 Come on, here's the garage, all right, come on, hit it. 342 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Let's make time. Get the radio on, warming up all you protection 343 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:41,839 as on Third Street forever. Let's makes you headed where's play alley, that's 344 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:52,240 next it art come three leave an ar take a tat cars are closing in, 345 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:53,960 but four street up my head been might meet him at this end of 346 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,400 play alley. Hold on, Oh we're quiet? This then nothing bunch you 347 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,559 can do with it? Hey, hey, look coming out of the only 348 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,200 o this guy with a release round broke the guy with a walloping Let's talk, 349 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,839 all right, you hold it the running point? Can I bet with 350 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,119 that? Fi let's go. Come on a little bit of ice dam on 351 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,960 my hands and turning on the hill tree Romeo. Come on ware esekimer. 352 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,839 You see him, Joe and bring the subway terming him. Yeah, they 353 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,920 going into the side door, look them. Why don't take the lap of 354 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,960 the left and then go with him right? They go under the right, 355 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,119 see him, Joe, No, I lock, don't wait a minute, 356 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,400 thy, I hold the turnstile. Come on, no tell me if the 357 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,960 platform and frost one gy, that's not what I on the turn shile. 358 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:47,160 I'm on there, you know the other guy on into the final these trays 359 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,839 come on after him. I'm decided he's tack famous sin throw y, I'm 360 00:28:51,880 --> 00:29:03,839 back. I play it fast at all Hunting side you all right, Jill, 361 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:12,640 Yeah, yeah, are you h you want to check? No, 362 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:22,440 I don't think it's any use. Yeah, well let's go. I wonder 363 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,079 why he tried so hard, you know, I don't know, Ben. 364 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,359 Some people are like that. You can blow the whistle all you want, 365 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:40,279 they never know when to stop. The story you have just heard is true, 366 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,200 only the names were changed to protect the innocent. Frank Gannon, the 367 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:51,440 only surviving member of the hold up gang, was tried and convicted of the 368 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,920 crime of assault with intent to commit murder. He is now serving out his 369 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:03,640 sentence at the State Penitentiary. You have just heard the sixteenth in a new 370 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,799 series of authentic cases from official files. Technical Advice Board. Dragnet comes from 371 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,359 the Office of Acting Chief of Police W. A. Wharton, Los Angeles 372 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,119 Police Department. Tonight's program is dedicated to Private Richard H. Taylor the Washington 373 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,279 D C. Police Department, who, on the evening of December thirteenth, 374 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,599 nineteen forty six, gave his life so that yours might be more secure. 375 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:52,319 Dragnet came to you from Los Angeles. Phil Harris likes a great deal about 376 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,640 the South. We like a great deal about Phil Harris. For instance, 377 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,200 we like his beautiful blonde wife, Alice Fay. In fact, we like 378 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,480 the Phil Harris Outa show, and it just happens that it returns to the 379 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,400 NBC air tomorrow. Why don't you take our advice and listen to one of 380 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,519 the funniest shows around anywhere. That's The Phil has Alice Fay Show tomorrow on 381 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:34,640 most of these same NBC stations. There are two for the Stars on MBC 382 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:47,079 Welcome Back. This was such a great episode and there are so many dragging 383 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,559 that programs that I honestly forget how good they were. This is another episode 384 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,119 where you're really gonna see a bit of temper from Sergeant Friday, and for 385 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:02,000 really understandable reasons, and they're There are so many unexpected things that happened, 386 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:07,640 starting with the killing of Vickers, and then you have that whole situation with 387 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,599 the interrogation and the card card game thing. I don't think this was a 388 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,680 real game, but I think it was another example of letting the suspects stew 389 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:24,119 while having a mundane conversation until they end up breaking. We also got another 390 00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:30,039 really great effect that came four and a half minutes in when Friday crumpled the 391 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,720 piece of paper. It was done in a way that it was very effective 392 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,359 in showing that he was angry as he was doing it, and it's a 393 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,880 great example of just using the sound effect to tell the story and to really 394 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:50,839 express emotion. I do think you can get into a situation with sound design 395 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,759 as we now call it, particularly with all the software out there, that 396 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,400 you're using a realistic enough sound, but we can go another step, and 397 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,759 I think this episode had a great example of that. This is also the 398 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,519 fourth episode we heard Harry Morgan in. I didn't think he was in quite 399 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,599 this Many early episodes also get in recurs as a last name, as it's 400 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,640 another one of those names that Web a lot to use for a lot of 401 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,440 various characters, and over the course of listening you'll hear a lot of names, 402 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,880 and not just common ones like Smith because you know obviously that's gonna come 403 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,680 up, but that Web and maybe writer James Moser really seemed to love and 404 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,960 they just keep showing up all over Dragnet. Carver is another popular one well 405 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:51,000 listener comments and feedback, and we start out over on Instagram where Candy Rights 406 00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:57,160 regarding Eric Kelby, I just heard this one great episode love hearing the early 407 00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:04,039 early Dragnet episodes. And then we have a comment from Julie who writes regarding 408 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:09,960 the thanksgiving the episode a great episode, and then also a comment on Facebook 409 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:15,280 in response to a negative review. I can understand that some would rather hear 410 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,239 only the programs, but I really find Adam Graham's commentary a great asset that 411 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,559 really makes these podcasts fun fun, sometimes funny, and insightful. The programs 412 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,079 offer a window into a general culture of the times, and I think Adam's 413 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,360 commentary helps educate and deepen the listener's enjoyment. Well, thank you so much. 414 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,280 Thank you so much, Holly, and now it's time to thank our 415 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,519 Patreon supporter of the day. 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My ride and thinking of the only real 425 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,239 floor is on this coat of arms. Yes, mister Bedding, beyond that, 426 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,679 it's perfect. It's the paper. I can't understand. It's so good. 427 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,320 Listen to that crackle. Well, of course I don't need to tell 428 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,719 you that Fiel has a lot to do with detecting footages. It doesn't take 429 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,400 long to sense automatically that Christmas is a genuine inkment and your your hotel has 430 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,119 pasted every one of them. Mister Bensons, well, it looks like a 431 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,960 long road ahead. What do you think of this risk with the public award? 432 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,599 I think it'd be a very good You'll see the serial number V one 433 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:08,159 six, et cetera is quite in order. That's currently is to the ordinary 434 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:13,679 person. Gentlemen, there's only one thing wrong with this tenet. It wasn't 435 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,400 made at the government Mint. May wish you luck. I hope you'll be 436 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,920 with us. Then in the meantime, you send your comments to Box thirteen 437 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:28,800 at Greatdetectives dot net, follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check 438 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:35,119 us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives from boise 439 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Idahol. This is your host, Adam Graham, signing off.