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to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera,

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You're Jenkins A Scott. Guys sit
in today Friday. Should we have

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should have no problems? Smooth sailing
through this? Yeah, I hope so

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man until he picked some que didn't
butcher it too much. Oh no,

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we're got We were okay. Yeah, Hello, Seid, how's it all

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going? Ready for a road game? Pack twelve road games this weekend?

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So looking forward to it to see
what, you know, continue to see

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what this looks like. You know, I don't think you're gonna see Berry

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very much. From what do you
get from it? Well, they gotta

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win. Well they gotta win,
and so they're gonna do whatever they have

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to do to win. And we
may see some stuff. Part of it

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depends on how, you know,
kind of start they get off to right,

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if they come out, you know, put a couple of touchdowns on

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the board in the first couple of
couple of possessions, and you know they

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kind of write that, but they
haven't done that, Steve, I haven't

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done that in any game, right. And then in our discussions, Well,

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let's let's say we're gonna talk to
Wilner today, right, yeah,

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uh, and then there's been a
curveball thrown at us. We're gonna talk

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to Hubvier Morales, not Jake Fisher, Jakes running too some work. They

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imagine that work out in the way
of coming on our radio show. What

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the hell? Right, So come
on, man Wilner about all the things,

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Stanford. But yesterday, before yesterday, I was ready to go with

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Arizona. Yeah, and I won't
say I'll say it later for my picks

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because I still might change my mind. But if you're if they have struggle

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with them, I'm just I'm just
staying away. Right. It's it's the

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pack pop opener. They're expected to
win, right, So they're they're going

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over there with a little expectation,
which is trouble, right, which can

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be sometimes. I got a sense
from Jed's jet Fish's tone in the press

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conference yesterday that he's trying to keep
his guys grounded on this game, you

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know, to not look one,
not look past it, which they shouldn't

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be because they've been that very good
too. It shouldn't be looking past anybody.

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And guess how often does that work? Right? And then there's probably

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gonna be ten thousand people at the
game, you know, So you go,

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and you know it's gonna be kind
of like a high school football game

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atmosphere. Say they're studying, man, they're trying to solve the world's problems.

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I get it, and that's fine, but you know what, the

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you know what, even with the
roseball teams they didn't have you know,

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their attendance has never been great for
football past the Green Boupo. It's not

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just that, dude, they work
hard. They study hard. You know.

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The first time I ever went to
the campus, it was the eighty

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six eighty seven season basketball season,
and I just you know, the day

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of the game, that morning,
I just said, I just want to

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go to the campus. I just
want to see. I remember parking my

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car, my rental car, and
I got out of the car and I

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felt like I was instantly smart.
We should do the show from there.

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I did. I swear to god, I felt like there's some learning going

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on here, there's no because outside
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and it just walked, you know, I just walked around the campus.

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I went to the I went to
the Bookstory, got myself a T

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shirt. It's like what I did
when, you know, I went to

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Boston and see my daughter. I
went to the Harvard campus and I'm like,

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you just feel smarter walking around there, or just feel dub because you

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don't belong. Well, there was
that too, because we went to when

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we were in Boston and uh,
my daughter lived right, I mean like

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right near Harvard. So we went
to this coffee shop literally across the street

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from the campus, uh, for
breakfast. And we're sitting there and we're

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having you know, we're having coffee
and stuff like that, and I'm looking

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around and I said my wife,
I said, I think everybody in this

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room is smarter than meat. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

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that's a good assumption, very good
assumption on your great movie. But you

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know, but you know they're they're
but Steve, they were winning for a

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long time. No, they were. We when we've talked to the guy

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from yesterday, it was a boat
ball. Were Ben Palmer Ben Ben Palmer

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Parkers one of those Palmer we got
it wrong yesterday. So no, it's

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been a while. It's been a
while, which is surprising because they were

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so good, so steady, yeah, for a long time. Yeah,

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well well well well again, you
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this has been my theory and and
just hearing it from you know,

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involving other schools as well. That
schools like Stanford, you know who where

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the academics are such a big deal. You know, say Stanford of Canderbilt,

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a CAL that cal maybe not so
much because it is a state school,

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right, but you know, so
the Georgia tack. Some of these

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high end academic schools are having trouble
with the transferporter because they you know,

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they lose players, but they can't
go get players as readily as they're not

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you know, they're gonna do what
Colorado did and rebuild their their roster with

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seventy guys or like Arizona has done, or like even a su is doing

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because they can't get those guys into
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my theory. You know, your
theory is pretty good. And there's some

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other schools that are choosing not to
use the transfer portal. Clemson comes to

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mind that because of that, you
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the transfer portal has become, you
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you know, I mean, it's
a way to build your team. And

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and you know Jed has built his
team turned his team around in a hurry,

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and uh and certainly Colorado's doing that
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we wait and see. But you
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well. Yeah, we'll see.
You see Dillingham's rant yesterday when that was

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similar to Herman, Yeah, yeah, we winning, you got here to

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win? Yeah it was he got
a lot of play. He's right,

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I missed it. He's right.
He goes ballistic about I wish I knew

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what the question was. Did you
hear the question? All I got was

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he was and he was just letting
yeah for about a minute or so,

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maybe a minute ranting, but you
know, here here to in the game.

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If you're not here to win the
game, why are you playing blah

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blah. He's right, I mean, come on, he's right. So

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it was herm back in the day. I wish, I wish I would

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have heard the question because it's set
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it was about like them being such
underdogs against usc I something like that.

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Yeah, well they're not even a
money line thing and there's not even a

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money there's no money line. Wow, that's bad. Yeah, but yeah,

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he should find it. Jay,
it's pretty interesting. It's it's the

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new version of Herm's explanations that we
were here to win the game. If

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you're not here to put in the
game yet it Yet, it's funny because

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Herm was there before him and were
put him in the situation. They're they're

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in such a bad spot. Yeah, well, come on, just three

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years ago everyone was in that spot, is there Arizona one? Right?

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Wow? Me to buy more more
than that though, they don't, you

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know, they've got the ball band
and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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well that was easy, that was
convenient going to I know, Steve,

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but you fail to I mean,
I keep making the argument that their

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players don't believe that they're not.
Well, guess what reality has said it.

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I'm not going to the prom Jay, you know why. I'm not

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going to the problem. Whether the
girls are gonna say yes to me or

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not, I'm not going to the
problem. But okay, okay, but

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maybe there you know, there are
guys out there who think they are even

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though they even though they're not.
You can think you want jay if you're

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not good enough, you're not good
But the but the point, but the

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point of it is, let's say
you're, you know, mister goofy guy

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who wants to go to the prom. Okay, thinks there's somebody out there

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who you can go to the problem
with. But then somebody comes and tells

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you you can't. You're not allowed
to go to the prom. You're still

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gonna be disappointed and upset about that. He's not going to the problem.

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Save your money. You ain't going
to the problem. Man. If you

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go to the problem, you're not
gonna have any fun. And if you're

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going to the problem, you're gonna
be security. You ain't gonna be going

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to the prom. Da. I
just got a vision of Napoleon Dynamite in

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my head, right, you know
what I'm saying. Okay, how convenient

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did they say this? They're not? They come on there, there was

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enough three years ago. Pretty much. Ye No, I hear you,

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I hear you. Anyway, Okay, but the prom, that's to expect.

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You know what, we're probably we
just made some guys cry out there.

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We made like a seventeen year old
kid, who's whose dad is.

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He's in the car with his dad
listening to the radio. He was thinking

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about trying to go to the prom
and now he's not because you because of

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dad. Is this true? Yes? This true? Son? We just

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somebody's coming up, right, isn't
at the end? That's at the end.

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This is like more winter formal.
Winter formal will be come out.

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Yeah, the winner, the winner
dance. It's it's it's like a prom,

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but it's in the winter. It's
usually before the semester end. It's

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just scat. Guys, don't do
it, just scat. Okay, So

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we're gonna talk to you, Hvier
right at three fwhere else, talk about

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what's going on high school. We'll
cover some high school stuff. You know.

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We had we had Greg McKinstry on
from Catalin on on this week and

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uh, you know they're three and
one for the first time in a hundred

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years. You know, what's some
of the other stuff that's going on.

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There's a you know, just you
know, get kind of get allay the

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land with Hob and we'll get some
of his thoughts on Stanford A zone as

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well. Sure, sure, and
the pod stuff. Uh, and then

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we'll have a willer at the second
hour, right, Yeah, John will

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be coming on. We'll you know, we'll ask him. I mean,

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how did how did Stanford get so
bad so fast? Because they were good

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not that long ago and now they're
and they look and then and they were

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bad before that, but it got
turned around Harbor and David Shock came in

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and did a great job. But
how did it get so bad so fast?

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And you know with this theory that
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I have that, uh, you
know, they can't they'll have a tough

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time rebuilding to the through the transfer
portal. You know, what's it gonna

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take for them to get this thing
turned around? And then there's a whole

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thought of them going to the AEC
as well. So anyways, let's say

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so we'll talk to John about that
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on the game Saturday and the other
million things are still going on around the

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PAC twelve. Yeah, okay,
that's cool. What else is going on?

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Well, since we got I'll bring
this up because it's not a breaking

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news item. It was kind of
funny. Did you see did you see

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yesterday? So there were there were
two first pitches at football at baseball games.

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And okay, Bruce Starr graderol is
who's he throws one hundred miles an

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hour for the Dodgers. He's like
my favorite Dodger right now. I really

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love this guy. What's his name, Bruce Star, Bruce Star Grader.

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Okay, he's from Venezuela. Okay, so his mom comes, his mom

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comes. He hasn't seen his mom
in seven years. Okay, she comes

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to the game, she comes in
to throw, and they let her throw

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the first pitch. Okay, she
gets up there and she throws gas.

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Wow, I mean she goes into
a wind up. She's got a glove

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in the whole bit. I have
it here, and she throws gas.

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And then on the same day,
on the same day, here's here's her

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throwing the pitch right now. Watch
this and on and on the same day,

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Stephen A. Smith goes and throws
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he bounces it. He doesn't even
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on the grass. Let's talk about
this real quickly. Because this is interesting

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this week or maybe last week,
and I'm sure you guys have heard this.

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So he he and Max Kellerman,
right, he used to be partners.

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And then I guess it was Kellerman's
athletic ability or his the fact that

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he wasn't an athlete, Like I
guess everybody's required to be an athlete to

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do this show, to do this, So I guess his his his worthiness

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was diminished because he wasn't the athlete
that stephen Ace said one. First of

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all, you don't have to be
an athlete. You go to school to

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be this, right, You can
do this if you have some background.

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And and I don't envy you guys, sid because I guess who's taking your

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jobs former athletes. Yeah, they're
taking your job. Good luck with that,

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right, and and and more power
to them. I guess if you

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have some cred that way, you
can do it. But you guys are

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going to school for this. You
guys are going to school for this.

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So stephen A does this, right, what about his cred? Well exactly,

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And that's that's been the thing that's
gone. That's what they're saying this.

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Okay, here's stephen A. Smith
who rips on athletes for not being

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good athletes or rips on non athletes
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being athletes. And then he goes
out and throws the first pitch and and

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and a girl shames and she was
pretty good. She looks like remember Kennedy

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from Kennedy Kenny Steve, that's a
that's a pool, didn't she get?

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But she threw a baby? And
then they said, was she played?

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You know, she was a softball
player, you know, in her country

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and the whole day. But she
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Bruce Starr was the one catching the
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was just right down the middle.
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So I haven't seen this Stephen A. Smith. So what's come up

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conversation, Well, just just that
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It's like, okay, here's the
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and then he goes and throws the
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He jokes on the on the on
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the video of himself. He said, he said it was a change of

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or but I looked at it again. It barely got to the dirt in

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front of in front of home plate
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know, look, you know,
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I mean, we we're critical,
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I mean I've just said a couple
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young Lady is all that good.
He's but I still know that he's a

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really good quarterback because he's playing major
college football. I'm not saying he's a

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crappy you know, he's not a
good athlete. But what I'm saying is

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he's not as good at a quarterback
as people are making him out to be.

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you know, uh, we'll see. You know, they got a tough

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game. This one thing I think
they got. Yeah, and if they

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lose to Washington State here you go
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if they lose to Washington State,
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gonna a dark horse to win the
league, this is the we got a

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end of the glory of the pac
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start cannibalizing. There's so many good
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you ta Washington State State and again
now Colorado. You know, Oregon has

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got to worry. Oregon is a
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about Colorado can beat them. And
nobody would have thought that going in.

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Yeah, but quick chance you give
percent of Colorado winning. Yeah, I

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think they can. I don't think
they will. I don't know, maybe

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twenty percent chance. All right,
Hey, we gotta hit hit the break

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here. We'll we'll be back and
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PEMA Sports Hall of Fame. Way
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Famer. That's awesome, Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.

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It's it's a it's an honor for
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background team of college that we have. Yeah, teach, I did too

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well. I mean, so you're
part You're part of the beginnings of what

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you know when I started at journalism. So I know you care to put

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you're to blame for me. I
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for that stuff. I'm still trying
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So you're busy. So what's up
with the stuff going on in Tucson

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with do you this weekend? Uh? Well, all right, school football

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tonight. You know there's some big
games and plus region play that none of

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the teams really started region play around
here. They start that next week,

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so they're the teams are all finishing
their non region non conference games to get

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ready for region play. And then
after the fifth game has went, transfer

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has become eligible. So after this
week, a lot of you'll see a

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lot of teams have new players that
have been waiting to play because they transfer

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from another high school. So there'll
be some loster changes next week or in

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the next two weeks. So this
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of year. So so who's who's
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you know play you know that that
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uh, you know, who's you
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attention to aside from the usual suspects. So, you know, we talked

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we talked to Greg McKinstry, Catalina. You know, they're three and one.

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You know, some teams that are
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We've talked to the you know,
we've talked to new Didn't seems like

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that, all right, I've heard
all those and uh yeah, the the

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one of the biggest prizes. I'm
the Ridge being three and one after being

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one and nine last year, and
they're they're winning convincingly. They're they're winning

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games by like four touchdowns and so
they're they made a great turnaround their under

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dale spot. Who's the head coach
their second year when they they're one of

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the big stories. When did they
go south? You know, because that

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last I remember they were pretty good. They they've been traditionally good, I

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mean Jake or play for and they've
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under Matt Johnson in twenty twelve.
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couple of years. They had some
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one returning starter back from this season
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So that that's that's what happened last
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me ask you a dumb question of
dumb question because I think I know that

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you never have dumb questions. Thank
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the mail. So how have you
been doing this a long time? Obviously

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you've been coming in to the high
school. That was a long time.

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And I'm Jay's gonna probably roll his
eyes at me, and maybe I have

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an answer for me. How much
politics? How much does politics play apart

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in high school coaching with coach with
with coaches decisions and who stays, who

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goes, as far as players know, as far as the coaches, you

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know, like the administrat ration because
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had to leave, it comes down
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you know J J used to coach
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vocally, so he probably knows what
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know, parents getting involved, administrators
seeing what's you know what I'm saying,

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it's just kind of maybe it's not
very prevalent here in time. I don't

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pay attention to it, but I'm
sure it is. Steve, we were

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at the one A level, so
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schools of all, and we had
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you see coaches leaving, you know, just just to just like one quote,

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chick count of mine is Richard Sciences
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rolling along. He wanted to STAY
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He was winning, winning Stay championship
wrestling, and then there was you

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know, some kind of a personality
conflict in the within the administration him and

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that was it. Same thing happened
with Tucson High with him. He had

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to leave Tucson High before last year
and he went to MIKEL. Mountain as

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the offensive line coach, and they
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think things happen like that where coaches
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their relationship with the administrators, so
and vice versa. And it could be

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a relationship with parents as well,
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yeah, sometimes you go you certain
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even question, but I know the
answer to it. There isn't There probably

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is not a town or city sure
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why I asked the level of it
in Tucson. It's it's prevalent, I

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can. I'm gonna say it's prevalent
because it happened at the one A level.

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kids are trying to get into you
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scholarships and things like that has to
be prevalent over there has to be.

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And it's a lot more now with
social media and all these recruiting services and

407
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stuff like that. So the parents
feel all this need of getting their son

408
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to be on the best possible situation
and if they see their their team is

409
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owing four and they see other teams
winning and they're going to be winning.

410
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:23.440
What's going on? I want my
son to be noticed. I don't want

411
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to be on a one in three
or one and four team. And that's

412
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when it really snowballs. Yeah yeah, so, Steve, I got I

413
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had it in middle school. No, I had that stuff. I've said

414
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long for a long time. The
worst thing that happened to our kids are

415
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parents, I mean, honestly in
sports. All right, how back to

416
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the game. So what else we
got? We got this weekend? You

417
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know, I mean, let's let's
just ask you. You know South Point,

418
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you know, the good school,
and how are they doing? Are

419
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they looking, you know, south
Point looking like they can compete for a

420
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.359
state championship? Everybody's talking you.
I think you were the one that talked

421
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about cdo somebody that you thought would
would have a good shot the state championship.

422
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.839
There's both those teams are still undefeated. CDEO plays at Maranna tonight.

423
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:11.279
Miranda's won and three, but they're
always dangerous with Desmond Roebuck and they're playing

424
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at their home field for the first
time the whole season. They're playing tonight

425
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.440
as seeing the cdeos come in there, so that should be a good game.

426
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.720
I don't know if you guys saw, but Desmond Roebuck, he's a

427
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.519
view of a recruiting target. He
had nineteen catches last week in the Lost

428
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.319
and Mount View nineteen catches for one
hundred and eight yards. So it's too

429
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.640
shy of John Missler's state record.
He's a he's gonna if he can,

430
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.599
if he if Arizona gets him,
he's gonna be one of those guys that

431
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.079
kind of like almost like an Elijah
Rushing. Maybe not to like five star

432
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.119
degree, but he's one of those
playmakers that people are going to be proud

433
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:52.039
that he stayed at Arizona. But
yeah, that's a big game tonight.

434
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.960
You know, there's sell points off
tonight. They're they're four and ozer Uh,

435
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.640
They're they're rolling along. I don't
think there's been any game for them

436
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.400
closer than a three touchdowns they've they've
won by wide margins, so they're they're

437
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:10.240
right there in the thick of things. They start their six A Central Region

438
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:15.119
play next week, right, which
is mostly Phoenix area schools. You mentioned

439
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.680
Michael Mountain, you know and we
had Michael Mountain, right, we had

440
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.519
their coach Pat Pat Nugent on you
know what what's going on over there?

441
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.240
And how do they look? They're
they're four No, they've won nine straight

442
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.920
since last year, Like I said, service since Richard sanchis going the coaching

443
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:40.400
staff, they haven't lost. And
and when Jimmy Leon became knowledgeable after trans

444
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.720
from Seal plains the defensive end,
they haven't. They haven't lost either,

445
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:49.039
as US already offered him a scholarship. So uh, he's definitely worth the

446
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.400
Arizona to look at. He's he
leads some of the Arizona with the eight

447
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.880
sacks. He's just a beast on
the on the coming off the edge.

448
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:04.039
So they're they're four. No,
they're gonna play Constagrants and tonight at home

449
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:08.079
Consta Grants three and one, so
that should be a good matchup for them.

450
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:14.039
Also tonight, where's Jay Dobbins.
We said this sorrow, So how's

451
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.480
that team? Because they have a
pretty good coaching staff there, don't they

452
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:18.599
they do? They're they're two and
two, they won two in a row,

453
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.799
and they're gonna get some transfers here, like a couple from Mica Mountain

454
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.119
and they're gonna be They're gonna be
more competitive here. In the next couple

455
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.720
of weeks or two and two.
They play Iron the rich tonight, which

456
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.880
is a pretty interesting game with Iron
Ridge three and one. Uh yeah,

457
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.440
Jay Dobbins on that staff, you
got Dennis Benet as the offensive coordinator.

458
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.400
You got Cam Denson as a defensive
backs coach. Wow, you know l

459
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:48.200
Alexander who Jay knows what this Diversell
the head coach. So they had some

460
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.400
really good coaches there. Well,
that was another place too, getting back

461
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.440
to the politics of its Scott McKee, who was seemingly going to a great

462
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.839
job over there, then all of
a sudden he was gone. And then

463
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:03.960
he's somewhere else now because we found
that out ye at uh cdo Yeah,

464
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:11.640
that's the consultant. So high school, Oklahoma right with love Phoma or Alabama.

465
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.319
Yeah, So let me ask you, how have you been back for

466
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.039
a while now into the city of
your hometown. Football here seems to have

467
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:23.599
increased, uh in terms of talent
a lot. I wouldn't say a lot,

468
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.559
I would say it has increased.
I think I think COVID nineteen really

469
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:34.680
really affected UH. The Arizona more
than it did Phoenix because there there are

470
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.480
some student athletes that went up to
Phoenix after when that all came about,

471
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.200
and that that affected some some of
the talent pool here. But you know,

472
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.400
it's kind of increased with the Lijah
rushing and Jonah will hide uh Kylie

473
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:53.559
Woodard at CDEO. There's some really
good talent here that could play at the

474
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.599
Division one level or that will play
at the Division one level. Uh Kayden

475
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.960
Luke the running back at CDO I
expecting to be a Division one player.

476
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.480
There's there's a number of them.
It is increasing, right, getting better.

477
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.480
So wait, we went to the
game, so how lead were you

478
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:17.480
there doing the raindo? I ended
up leaving there eleven thirty, eleven eleven

479
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.839
forty. They were turning out to
light. I was asleep by that time

480
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.839
for sure. All right, so
let's talk a little Let's talk cats a

481
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:32.160
little bit. Stanford Arizona tomorrow.
You know, the thinking is that Arizona

482
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:35.640
should go over there and beat the
hell out of them, but we all

483
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.359
you know, you've been around long
enough, Steve hasn't so avid to know

484
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.920
that you don't take anything for granted
when you're when you're Arizona. What do

485
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.720
you think tomorrow? Yeah, so
I grew up just like you see in

486
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.640
Jay's watching them and when they play, when they're favorite on the road,

487
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.640
that's when you're there, you're really
like you're nervous because they don't play well.

488
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.240
It's a favorite on the road.
I don't know what the points for

489
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.200
it is in the game, but
uh, I would think that they can

490
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.720
take care of Stanford though the problems
that they're having with the first year coach

491
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:09.000
and get didn't get any things situated
there quarterback is I think they're struggling at

492
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.519
quarterback right. Yeah. I would
assume that Arizona's defense can continue to improve

493
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.519
and I think I think they can
come out of there with the win.

494
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.599
The team, there's a different feeling
about this team than we've felt in the

495
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:30.960
last wet three or four years,
five years, eight years, different film,

496
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.200
there's a different feeling with it.
It is, but it's the spreads

497
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:37.480
eleven and a half, by the
way, or if that's what it was

498
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.559
yesterday, that's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think

499
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.079
it is. But I won't touch
it. I'm not touching it. I'm

500
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:52.319
not touch it. No, No, you can't know again, you know

501
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:53.920
Arizona on the road, in the
Pact, in the you know, in

502
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.799
the league game, you just you
just never know what to expect, so

503
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.160
not touch. Well, thanks for
joining in the last pinch hitter role.

504
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.240
Yeah, appreciate nice job. And
I was thinking that Jake Fisher you guys

505
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:08.320
are talking about, guys, could
be two way guys. I think Jake

506
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.920
Fisher could have been a good run
to be like a running lead running back

507
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.320
blocking back. He was fast for
he played that. I think. Yeah,

508
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.840
he was a running back and he
played that at irowand Ridge, So

509
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.719
he was a dog. He'd be
he'd be good. I guess, yeah,

510
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:27.320
I guess he could have been.
Yeah, okay, kind of a

511
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.400
bowling ball type of running back,
right, full back tech right, Okay,

512
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:37.880
Mike st st striking Remember Striden Stridening, Mike Stridnick remember him? Oh

513
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.800
yeah, yeah back yeah when they
got fall back. Yeah yeah. Okay,

514
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.280
Hey guys, thank you, Hey, thanks a much. I appreciate

515
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.079
you have a good weekend, you
too, Thank you. Remember those days

516
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.480
just like Mike Stridening, wasn't he
he was on the like the early eighties

517
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.400
or late late eighties early nineties teams
yeah, give him the ball third and

518
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.679
ten. Give him the ball for
three exactly. All right, man,

519
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.440
let's hit the road. We're gonna
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Steve Rivera here. Jacons Ols got a

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guy said in today we have eleven
minutes if you guys want to call five

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to zero four one seventy four forty
Do you have something you want to talk

591
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about? Okay? Okay, So
I was just on Twitter something to do,

592
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but I saw that Dion was talking
about how recruiting high schools or that

593
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he felt sorry for high school players
because recruiting high school players is not in

594
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anymore. Yeah, because of the
transfer report. Right, Why go after

595
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a high school kid if he's not
rushing where you already have guys who know

596
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.440
how to play to come in and
play for you. Yeah, and that

597
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.679
he's saying, the only incentive that
you I should One of the incentives is

598
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that universities need to up the scholarship
numbers so they can go after high school

599
00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.559
kids. But the transfer portal is
kind of created a lot of kids.

600
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.719
That's where that's where the recruiting is
taking place. Yeah. And and the

601
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.760
thing is it's already been proven to
work, and even to Jac's because Jac's

602
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this is now the new jac This
is the new j C. And what

603
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.199
what you know, what it is
is that you know, you go to

604
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uh, you know, Southern Utah, right, you know that that kid

605
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that was didn't quite get the you
know, the the you know, the

606
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:29.000
major school scholarship goes to Southern Utah
or you know there's a school that takes

607
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.960
a lot of two son kids,
Adams State, right, you know,

608
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.760
take the and those kids go there, play a year or two, get

609
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.280
get their film out, and the
next thing you know, they're at Arizona

610
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.360
or wherever. Give you two jay, I'll give you two ones on the

611
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.159
team right now. Yeah, it
was not really recruited. Went to Utah

612
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.800
because he wasn't really recruited. Right
now, he's hearing he's gonna be a

613
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.159
star, and he a star.
And the kid that we talked to his

614
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:58.880
dad Lopez, Yeah right, no
one won more. He was in New

615
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.320
Mexico State, ended up in Arizona
and then the NFL. No, you're

616
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:06.960
right, you know, and and
again when when you talk about and look,

617
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.719
we we've talked about you know,
Dabbo Sweeney over at Clemson, he's

618
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.039
trying to hang onto the whole thing
of I want to get my guys from

619
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.039
high school. They don't have any
bad habits. We bring them in,

620
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.119
we we we uh coach getting,
we coach them up. We get him

621
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:24.039
into our culture and we develop them. But what happens if you got you

622
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.079
know, the position you're you're you're
bringing in a high school let's say a

623
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.760
right tackle, all right, and
you've got a right tackle starting right tackle,

624
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.840
and he decides to leave. Now
you've got to play the true freshman.

625
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.719
And you weren't expecting that, And
and that that's what's happening over at

626
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.880
Clemson, and white people saying they're
they're you know, they're losing ground is

627
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.519
because they're losing you know, because
look, Arizona's got transfers from Alabama,

628
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.960
Michigan, Oregon, US. I
mean, they got transferred from all these

629
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:59.159
schools. Those guys they go other
places and and and some of them might

630
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.360
might be going just because they want
to play somewhere else. Maybe they you

631
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:05.559
know, maybe they were playing wherever
they were, but they said, you

632
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.159
know what I've got. You know, I'm a graduate student. Now I've

633
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.639
got a fifth year. I want
to go play where I want to play,

634
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.599
right And so they leave, and
now there's a big giant hole in

635
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.320
there, and you can't always fill
that with a high school kid, quarterback,

636
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.280
especially quarterback especially. We do not
see any more true freshman starting anymore.

637
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.639
And very very fair in terms of
just players. Yeah, like like

638
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.880
true freshman coming that's what he said. And then they go get kids out

639
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.719
of the port. That's what he
said, he says, And you don't

640
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.880
see ridshirt freshman either, because they're
not gonna sit. They're gonna transfer.

641
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.760
Right. Well, you have one
now, police, who's gonna do that

642
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.760
because he's good enough, Right,
he's good enough. And how rare is

643
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.199
that? Yeah, no, it's
it's changed everything. And you're right that

644
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.199
the ones that are losing out are
the junior colleges. You know, those

645
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.119
kids are having Look, they'll play
somewhere because you know what the people the

646
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.480
players that are coming from, let's
say the group of five schools and even

647
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.840
the smaller schools or those are gonna
get They're gonna get the high school kids.

648
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:05.800
And then he got some you know, look, Travis Hunter went to

649
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.639
went to Jackson State, right what
an hbc U school. He was the

650
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:12.360
top recruit in the country. Right, Well, he wanted to play for

651
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.760
you, he wanted to play for
but the point being that he didn't feel

652
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:20.079
like he had to go to Ohio
State or Michigan or somewhere to get to

653
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.760
where he wants to go. And
at the end of the day, j

654
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.239
to get to where you want to
go is the big thing? Right?

655
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.840
Where can I get to the league? Right? Well, you know,

656
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.239
I mean why did why did why
did Dorian Singer leave Arizona? Because his

657
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.480
goal was to you know, he
wants to get into the league. The

658
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.840
system now afforded him the opportunity to
make whatever moves he needed to make to

659
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.639
improve his chances. We walked on
in Arizona. He gets you know,

660
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.679
he does well, he gets attention, USC comes calling him. Now he's

661
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.280
at USC where he's getting more and
more visibility and he's gonna get noticed and

662
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.880
don't forget NL and then don't forget
Did you see where? I don't know,

663
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.960
I hope I'm not mistaking this,
but where uh sent her Son?

664
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:07.400
The quarterback was making like eleven million
or something? When the hell? Why

665
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.119
in the hell would you want to
leave that place? And then eleven million?

666
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.519
Indian said you ain't leave in college
anytime soon. Well, yeah,

667
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:16.519
yeah, I heard it. I
heard that quote. I didn't know it

668
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.639
was in the context of that I
heard it. Well, it was not

669
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.599
in the context. It was just
two separate, two separates. Oh but

670
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:23.480
yeah, I did hear him say, you know, I just heard a

671
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:28.199
clip of him saying, you know, guys don't have to leave college anymore

672
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.880
to make they can Some of these
guys can make more money here than they

673
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.760
can. You know. In the
NFL, Williams dad was quoted saying something

674
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.679
similar like, if if the team
that's there at number one, we don't

675
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:43.159
like it, sure he's already making
five or whatever he was making. Yeah,

676
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.599
yeah, no, yeah, why
would you. No, he has

677
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.719
said if he doesn't like the team
that that, uh, you know he's

678
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.360
gonna draft you. But look he's
gonna roll the dice and then he may

679
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.840
not like the next team either,
right right, right, Well, so

680
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.239
you don't have to go to the
problem there. But no, it's no

681
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.400
that it no, it has totally
changed everything. The whole recruiting. Look,

682
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.800
the top players, the Elijah Rushings, you know, those guys,

683
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.800
they're still gonna get recruited. They're
still gonna go to the big school.

684
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.440
But when you're talking about that that
three star kid you know, or the

685
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.880
two stars Scoop, you know,
one of those guys, they might not

686
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.480
wind up or they're gonna wind up
at they're gonna fill a hole, you

687
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.840
know, at a lower level that
was created when a school at a higher

688
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.320
level took somebody's Well, and here's
here's the thing. The two two stars

689
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.159
scoops are gonna go to the Mexico
States or the Naus, prove their worth

690
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.800
and then go and then find their
way again and there, you know,

691
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:38.800
And that's just the way it's gotta
be a coach. It's gotta get used

692
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:45.679
to the who there was? Who's
I listening to? Uh? Could be

693
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.280
anybody? I know I was listening
to something. I might have been one

694
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:55.480
of the podcasts I'm just talking about. Can you imagine what Bosham, Beckler,

695
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:02.719
Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant and no, uh, Joe Paterno, you

696
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.960
know coaches like that, legendary coaches
like that, Their heads would have exploded.

697
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.480
Well, no, they'd be Clemson, they'd be we don't need that

698
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.559
crap, we don't need that crap. Their heads would have well, it's

699
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.519
kind of like we talked about with
with this all this stuff. Okay,

700
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.039
he might he took a Brian Williams, he took a Chris Meals, but

701
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.199
it was very selective and what he
did because he had the other guys to

702
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.440
fill in the spot. But I'm
sure we've hated it. He said,

703
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.480
those those guys would have hated this. They probably would have gotten out because

704
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.840
of it. As we've seen other
coaches in various sports, just football.

705
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.119
You know, we've talked about you
know, would Loud have hated this?

706
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:44.159
Yes, well, there's no question. There's no question, Kindle Loot.

707
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.679
Even Dick told me, even you
would have said, I can handle it.

708
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.519
I can handle it. In fact, he take, Dick told me,

709
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.639
would have thrived in this. Yeah, we can recognize your talent.

710
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.039
We can take it. Let's take
this call higher on the air and I

711
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.400
on the ball. How's it going
today? What's up Brian? You about

712
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.679
two minutes? Okay? You guys
are talking about the possibility my helm,

713
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.599
everything about people not going into the
draft because they can make more money.

714
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.760
There's one problem that they have to
worry about, and especially Caleb Williams if

715
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.719
he decided, like Jay said,
get picked by a crap your team the

716
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:22.719
next year. But you got to
worry about injury. Yeah, that's true,

717
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.559
yep. And that's probably the most
important thing is that, well I

718
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.920
take my shot and get my you
know, my twenty million dollars in the

719
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.519
pros, you know, or do
I stay in college and go ahead and

720
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.920
make them at a couple of millions
for the next year. Well, and

721
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.559
that's the possibility if I blow out
my knee, I'm shot. Well.

722
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.280
One of the things I heard about
that was that, you know, if

723
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.480
you're Caleb Williams, you know,
get your butt into the NFL because you

724
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.760
want to get to your second contract
as soon as you can. And so

725
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.039
yeah, that was the argument against
that. Yeah, no, I can

726
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.559
understand some of these guys might be
a third or fourth round pick. That's

727
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.000
fine, But those guys win the
first or second round, they need to

728
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.199
go as fast as they can.
I agree, But yeah, possible,

729
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.119
you make more money, alright.
Also to the cat should win by eighteen

730
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.559
eighteen, you're going eighteen Okay.
I like to pick. I like to

731
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.639
pick a lot, but I like
it. Yeah, yeah, all right,

732
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.519
Brian, Hey, thanks a bunch
man, appreciate it. Have a

733
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.159
good weekend, all right. No, And that was the that was the

734
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.840
argument that I heard about about Caleb
Williams, that you know, look,

735
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.519
your body can only take so much
over a certain amount of time. You

736
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.360
know, don't if you don't have
to spend another year in college, then

737
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.599
don't go get go get If you're
if you're a Caleb Willibs, you're gonna

738
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.880
get your money. Ye, go
get it in the NFL. Right.

739
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:46.840
I get it that you want to
play for a winner, Dad, But

740
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.559
if you're a top five draft pick, you're gonna be on a bad team

741
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.920
no matter what. So just right, and your opportunity to play it is

742
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.960
very good, but higher because if
you're if you played for a really good

743
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.480
team, you're sitting behind the starter. I mean Bryce Young, he's starting

744
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.119
in his first I don't think he
should be. No, No, I

745
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.199
don't think he should. Well,
he's not playing well either. I mean

746
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.880
it kind of shows you in the
time. It doesn't hurt now, so

747
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:12.440
good luck with us. I mean
he's hurt. What happened to him.

748
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.920
He's out for He's out this week
and maybe another another game after that.

749
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.440
Okay, I was gonna I was
gonna say, he's a shorter quarter quarterback.

750
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.159
Right, he's a shorter quarterback.
He was a small guy. So,

751
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.679
I mean, I don't think that, man, how you sustain that

752
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.760
level of play against those big guys
coming out either man, that's a tough

753
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.679
job. It is. It is
a tough job, you know, kind

754
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.599
of Murray mask to wait for that's
what that's why the Red Rifle had it

755
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.760
made. Holding the clipboard just just
yeah, just hang around and you'll get

756
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.880
to play at some point if you
hang around in the right play. Yeah,

757
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:49.239
okay, absolutely all right. We're
gonna take our break into the first

758
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.920
hour. We're gonna come back breaking
news with with Sid here at the top

759
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.880
of the hour, and then John
Willer joining us about four or fifteen.

760
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.719
We'll cover a number of subject with
him, So stick around for all that

761
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.719
as we head towards our hap five
Friday picks at the end of the next

762
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.880
hour. So I'm gonna have a
good sand rolling in there about in the

763
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:08.519
Atlanta some Saturday. I'm a good