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You're Jenkins A Scott. Guys sit in today Friday. Should we have
should have no problems? Smooth sailing through this? Yeah, I hope so
man until he picked some que didn't butcher it too much. Oh no,
we're got We were okay. Yeah, Hello, Seid, how's it all
going? Ready for a road game? Pack twelve road games this weekend?
So looking forward to it to see what, you know, continue to see
what this looks like. You know, I don't think you're gonna see Berry
very much. From what do you get from it? Well, they gotta
win. Well they gotta win, and so they're gonna do whatever they have
to do to win. And we may see some stuff. Part of it
depends on how, you know, kind of start they get off to right,
if they come out, you know, put a couple of touchdowns on
the board in the first couple of couple of possessions, and you know they
kind of write that, but they haven't done that, Steve, I haven't
done that in any game, right. And then in our discussions, Well,
let's let's say we're gonna talk to Wilner today, right, yeah,
uh, and then there's been a curveball thrown at us. We're gonna talk
to Hubvier Morales, not Jake Fisher, Jakes running too some work. They
imagine that work out in the way of coming on our radio show. What
the hell? Right, So come on, man Wilner about all the things,
Stanford. But yesterday, before yesterday, I was ready to go with
Arizona. Yeah, and I won't say I'll say it later for my picks
because I still might change my mind. But if you're if they have struggle
with them, I'm just I'm just staying away. Right. It's it's the
pack pop opener. They're expected to win, right, So they're they're going
over there with a little expectation, which is trouble, right, which can
be sometimes. I got a sense from Jed's jet Fish's tone in the press
conference yesterday that he's trying to keep his guys grounded on this game, you
know, to not look one, not look past it, which they shouldn't
be because they've been that very good too. It shouldn't be looking past anybody.
And guess how often does that work? Right? And then there's probably
gonna be ten thousand people at the game, you know, So you go,
and you know it's gonna be kind of like a high school football game
atmosphere. Say they're studying, man, they're trying to solve the world's problems.
I get it, and that's fine, but you know what, the
you know what, even with the roseball teams they didn't have you know,
their attendance has never been great for football past the Green Boupo. It's not
just that, dude, they work hard. They study hard. You know.
The first time I ever went to the campus, it was the eighty
six eighty seven season basketball season, and I just you know, the day
of the game, that morning, I just said, I just want to
go to the campus. I just want to see. I remember parking my
car, my rental car, and I got out of the car and I
felt like I was instantly smart. We should do the show from there.
I did. I swear to god, I felt like there's some learning going
on here, there's no because outside yeah, and I'm like, you know,
and it just walked, you know, I just walked around the campus.
I went to the I went to the Bookstory, got myself a T
shirt. It's like what I did when, you know, I went to
Boston and see my daughter. I went to the Harvard campus and I'm like,
you just feel smarter walking around there, or just feel dub because you
don't belong. Well, there was that too, because we went to when
we were in Boston and uh, my daughter lived right, I mean like
right near Harvard. So we went to this coffee shop literally across the street
from the campus, uh, for breakfast. And we're sitting there and we're
having you know, we're having coffee and stuff like that, and I'm looking
around and I said my wife, I said, I think everybody in this
room is smarter than meat. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,
that's a good assumption, very good assumption on your great movie. But you
know, but you know they're they're but Steve, they were winning for a
long time. No, they were. We when we've talked to the guy
from yesterday, it was a boat ball. Were Ben Palmer Ben Ben Palmer
Parkers one of those Palmer we got it wrong yesterday. So no, it's
been a while. It's been a while, which is surprising because they were
so good, so steady, yeah, for a long time. Yeah,
well well well well again, you know we we've talked about and you know,
this has been my theory and and just hearing it from you know,
involving other schools as well. That schools like Stanford, you know who where
the academics are such a big deal. You know, say Stanford of Canderbilt,
a CAL that cal maybe not so much because it is a state school,
right, but you know, so the Georgia tack. Some of these
high end academic schools are having trouble with the transferporter because they you know,
they lose players, but they can't go get players as readily as they're not
you know, they're gonna do what Colorado did and rebuild their their roster with
seventy guys or like Arizona has done, or like even a su is doing
because they can't get those guys into you know, into the school. That's
my theory. You know, your theory is pretty good. And there's some
other schools that are choosing not to use the transfer portal. Clemson comes to
mind that because of that, you can see that they're losing ground. So
the transfer portal has become, you know, a strategy more than just a
you know, I mean, it's a way to build your team. And
and you know Jed has built his team turned his team around in a hurry,
and uh and certainly Colorado's doing that and uh, you got you know,
we wait and see. But you know a su maybe doing that as
well. Yeah, we'll see. You see Dillingham's rant yesterday when that was
similar to Herman, Yeah, yeah, we winning, you got here to
win? Yeah it was he got a lot of play. He's right,
I missed it. He's right. He goes ballistic about I wish I knew
what the question was. Did you hear the question? All I got was
he was and he was just letting yeah for about a minute or so,
maybe a minute ranting, but you know, here here to in the game.
If you're not here to win the game, why are you playing blah
blah. He's right, I mean, come on, he's right. So
it was herm back in the day. I wish, I wish I would
have heard the question because it's set him off. Yeah, I believe maybe
it was about like them being such underdogs against usc I something like that.
Yeah, well they're not even a money line thing and there's not even a
money there's no money line. Wow, that's bad. Yeah, but yeah,
he should find it. Jay, it's pretty interesting. It's it's the
new version of Herm's explanations that we were here to win the game. If
you're not here to put in the game yet it Yet, it's funny because
Herm was there before him and were put him in the situation. They're they're
in such a bad spot. Yeah, well, come on, just three
years ago everyone was in that spot, is there Arizona one? Right?
Wow? Me to buy more more than that though, they don't, you
know, they've got the ball band and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
well that was easy, that was convenient going to I know, Steve,
but you fail to I mean, I keep making the argument that their
players don't believe that they're not. Well, guess what reality has said it.
I'm not going to the prom Jay, you know why. I'm not
going to the problem. Whether the girls are gonna say yes to me or
not, I'm not going to the problem. But okay, okay, but
maybe there you know, there are guys out there who think they are even
though they even though they're not. You can think you want jay if you're
not good enough, you're not good But the but the point, but the
point of it is, let's say you're, you know, mister goofy guy
who wants to go to the prom. Okay, thinks there's somebody out there
who you can go to the problem with. But then somebody comes and tells
you you can't. You're not allowed to go to the prom. You're still
gonna be disappointed and upset about that. He's not going to the problem.
Save your money. You ain't going to the problem. Man. If you
go to the problem, you're not gonna have any fun. And if you're
going to the problem, you're gonna be security. You ain't gonna be going
to the prom. Da. I just got a vision of Napoleon Dynamite in
my head, right, you know what I'm saying. Okay, how convenient
did they say this? They're not? They come on there, there was
enough three years ago. Pretty much. Ye No, I hear you,
I hear you. Anyway, Okay, but the prom, that's to expect.
You know what, we're probably we just made some guys cry out there.
We made like a seventeen year old kid, who's whose dad is.
He's in the car with his dad listening to the radio. He was thinking
about trying to go to the prom and now he's not because you because of
dad. Is this true? Yes? This true? Son? We just
somebody's coming up, right, isn't at the end? That's at the end.
This is like more winter formal. Winter formal will be come out.
Yeah, the winner, the winner dance. It's it's it's like a prom,
but it's in the winter. It's usually before the semester end. It's
just scat. Guys, don't do it, just scat. Okay, So
we're gonna talk to you, Hvier right at three fwhere else, talk about
what's going on high school. We'll cover some high school stuff. You know.
We had we had Greg McKinstry on from Catalin on on this week and
uh, you know they're three and one for the first time in a hundred
years. You know, what's some of the other stuff that's going on.
There's a you know, just you know, get kind of get allay the
land with Hob and we'll get some of his thoughts on Stanford A zone as
well. Sure, sure, and the pod stuff. Uh, and then
we'll have a willer at the second hour, right, Yeah, John will
be coming on. We'll you know, we'll ask him. I mean,
how did how did Stanford get so bad so fast? Because they were good
not that long ago and now they're and they look and then and they were
bad before that, but it got turned around Harbor and David Shock came in
and did a great job. But how did it get so bad so fast?
And you know with this theory that we have, or at least that
I have that, uh, you know, they can't they'll have a tough
time rebuilding to the through the transfer portal. You know, what's it gonna
take for them to get this thing turned around? And then there's a whole
thought of them going to the AEC as well. So anyways, let's say
so we'll talk to John about that and get some of his thoughts on on
on the game Saturday and the other million things are still going on around the
PAC twelve. Yeah, okay, that's cool. What else is going on?
Well, since we got I'll bring this up because it's not a breaking
news item. It was kind of funny. Did you see did you see
yesterday? So there were there were two first pitches at football at baseball games.
And okay, Bruce Starr graderol is who's he throws one hundred miles an
hour for the Dodgers. He's like my favorite Dodger right now. I really
love this guy. What's his name, Bruce Star, Bruce Star Grader.
Okay, he's from Venezuela. Okay, so his mom comes, his mom
comes. He hasn't seen his mom in seven years. Okay, she comes
to the game, she comes in to throw, and they let her throw
the first pitch. Okay, she gets up there and she throws gas.
Wow, I mean she goes into a wind up. She's got a glove
in the whole bit. I have it here, and she throws gas.
And then on the same day, on the same day, here's here's her
throwing the pitch right now. Watch this and on and on the same day,
Stephen A. Smith goes and throws the first pitch at the Yankees and
he bounces it. He doesn't even get it to the dirt. He bounces
on the grass. Let's talk about this real quickly. Because this is interesting
this week or maybe last week, and I'm sure you guys have heard this.
So he he and Max Kellerman, right, he used to be partners.
And then I guess it was Kellerman's athletic ability or his the fact that
he wasn't an athlete, Like I guess everybody's required to be an athlete to
do this show, to do this, So I guess his his his worthiness
was diminished because he wasn't the athlete that stephen Ace said one. First of
all, you don't have to be an athlete. You go to school to
be this, right, You can do this if you have some background.
And and I don't envy you guys, sid because I guess who's taking your
jobs former athletes. Yeah, they're taking your job. Good luck with that,
right, and and and more power to them. I guess if you
have some cred that way, you can do it. But you guys are
going to school for this. You guys are going to school for this.
So stephen A does this, right, what about his cred? Well exactly,
And that's that's been the thing that's gone. That's what they're saying this.
Okay, here's stephen A. Smith who rips on athletes for not being
good athletes or rips on non athletes who are in the sports business for not
being athletes. And then he goes out and throws the first pitch and and
and a girl shames and she was pretty good. She looks like remember Kennedy
from Kennedy Kenny Steve, that's a that's a pool, didn't she get?
But she threw a baby? And then they said, was she played?
You know, she was a softball player, you know, in her country
and the whole day. But she threw and she threw an overhand bby and
Bruce Starr was the one catching the ball. It was it was like it
was just right down the middle. And they had no art do it either.
So I haven't seen this Stephen A. Smith. So what's come up
conversation, Well, just just that that okay, you know he's been criticized.
It's like, okay, here's the guy. Here's the guy who's made
a living out of ripping on guys for not being good enough. Right,
and then he goes and throws the first pitch, and he does that.
He jokes on the on the on the tweet he see he tweet he tweeted
the video of himself. He said, he said it was a change of
or but I looked at it again. It barely got to the dirt in
front of in front of home plate and one hoped to catcher. So you
know, look, you know, I get, I mean, you know,
I mean, we we're critical, you know, but you know,
I mean I've just said a couple of days ago, I don't think Djo
young Lady is all that good. He's but I still know that he's a
really good quarterback because he's playing major college football. I'm not saying he's a
crappy you know, he's not a good athlete. But what I'm saying is
he's not as good at a quarterback as people are making him out to be.
Well, I don't believe in or yeah, no, I yeah,
you know, uh, we'll see. You know, they got a tough
game. This one thing I think they got. Yeah, and if they
lose to Washington State here you go there they open their conference season. And
if they lose to Washington State, when a lot of people are saying they're
gonna a dark horse to win the league, this is the we got a
middle left. So I think this is the beginning of the beginning of the
end of the glory of the pac twel because now they're gonna strike the beating,
start cannibalizing. There's so many good things. I mean, this weekend
you ta Washington State State and again now Colorado. You know, Oregon has
got to worry. Oregon is a big favorite, but they got to worry
about Colorado can beat them. And nobody would have thought that going in.
Yeah, but quick chance you give percent of Colorado winning. Yeah, I
think they can. I don't think they will. I don't know, maybe
twenty percent chance. All right, Hey, we gotta hit hit the break
here. We'll we'll be back and we're gonna have Javier Morales will come in.
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with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fiftday. They welcome back
to on the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Ribera, He's
Jackins as now and I phone. We have of your morales from all Sports
two Sun dot com and newly inducted into the PIMA. Oh that's right,
PEMA Sports Hall of Fame. Way to go. You're you're a Hall of
Famer. That's awesome, Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.
It's it's a it's an honor for my family really too, because of the
background team of college that we have. Yeah, teach, I did too
well. I mean, so you're part You're part of the beginnings of what
you know when I started at journalism. So I know you care to put
you're to blame for me. I was gonna say, you can't blame us
for that stuff. I'm still trying to forget those days. Please don't remember.
So you're busy. So what's up with the stuff going on in Tucson
with do you this weekend? Uh? Well, all right, school football
tonight. You know there's some big games and plus region play that none of
the teams really started region play around here. They start that next week,
so they're the teams are all finishing their non region non conference games to get
ready for region play. And then after the fifth game has went, transfer
has become eligible. So after this week, a lot of you'll see a
lot of teams have new players that have been waiting to play because they transfer
from another high school. So there'll be some loster changes next week or in
the next two weeks. So this is kind of a transition type of time
of year. So so who's who's kind of been you know on the radar,
you know play you know that that not say we're unexpected, but just
uh, you know, who's you know, who who should we be paying
attention to aside from the usual suspects. So, you know, we talked
we talked to Greg McKinstry, Catalina. You know, they're three and one.
You know, some teams that are kind of unexpected to going to CDEO.
We've talked to the you know, we've talked to new Didn't seems like
that, all right, I've heard all those and uh yeah, the the
one of the biggest prizes. I'm the Ridge being three and one after being
one and nine last year, and they're they're winning convincingly. They're they're winning
games by like four touchdowns and so they're they made a great turnaround their under
dale spot. Who's the head coach their second year when they they're one of
the big stories. When did they go south? You know, because that
last I remember they were pretty good. They they've been traditionally good, I
mean Jake or play for and they've been good and they want to stay championship
under Matt Johnson in twenty twelve. They they had a tough transition the last
couple of years. They had some coaching changes and last year they only had
one returning starter back from this season before. They lost a lot of seniors.
So that that's that's what happened last year plus the coaching change. Let
me ask you a dumb question of dumb question because I think I know that
you never have dumb questions. Thank you for the response, Thanks for checking
the mail. So how have you been doing this a long time? Obviously
you've been coming in to the high school. That was a long time.
And I'm Jay's gonna probably roll his eyes at me, and maybe I have
an answer for me. How much politics? How much does politics play apart
in high school coaching with coach with with coaches decisions and who stays, who
goes, as far as players know, as far as the coaches, you
know, like the administrat ration because because because there's been good coaches who have
had to leave, it comes down to person in that personality conflicts. And
you know J J used to coach at at one of the high schools here
vocally, so he probably knows what it's like with the administrators politics. You
know, parents getting involved, administrators seeing what's you know what I'm saying,
it's just kind of maybe it's not very prevalent here in time. I don't
pay attention to it, but I'm sure it is. Steve, we were
at the one A level, so we were at the bottom level, smallest
schools of all, and we had that stuff we did. Oh yeah,
you see coaches leaving, you know, just just to just like one quote,
chick count of mine is Richard Sciences at Sunnyside, and he he was
rolling along. He wanted to STAY championships and then within five years he's out.
He was winning, winning Stay championship wrestling, and then there was you
know, some kind of a personality conflict in the within the administration him and
that was it. Same thing happened with Tucson High with him. He had
to leave Tucson High before last year and he went to MIKEL. Mountain as
the offensive line coach, and they have a lots of game since I mean,
think things happen like that where coaches have to change because of because of
their relationship with the administrators, so and vice versa. And it could be
a relationship with parents as well, right exactly, you know, yeah,
yeah, sometimes you go you certain schools have have a very powerful parent group.
No, no, that's why I ask. It's a question with not
even question, but I know the answer to it. There isn't There probably
is not a town or city sure anywhere sure that that doesn't happen. That's
why I asked the level of it in Tucson. It's it's prevalent, I
can. I'm gonna say it's prevalent because it happened at the one A level.
So when you're talking four A, five A, six A, where
kids are trying to get into you know, get college, you know,
scholarships and things like that has to be prevalent over there has to be.
And it's a lot more now with social media and all these recruiting services and
stuff like that. So the parents feel all this need of getting their son
to be on the best possible situation and if they see their their team is
owing four and they see other teams winning and they're going to be winning.
What's going on? I want my son to be noticed. I don't want
to be on a one in three or one and four team. And that's
when it really snowballs. Yeah yeah, so, Steve, I got I
had it in middle school. No, I had that stuff. I've said
long for a long time. The worst thing that happened to our kids are
parents, I mean, honestly in sports. All right, how back to
the game. So what else we got? We got this weekend? You
know, I mean, let's let's just ask you. You know South Point,
you know, the good school, and how are they doing? Are
they looking, you know, south Point looking like they can compete for a
state championship? Everybody's talking you. I think you were the one that talked
about cdo somebody that you thought would would have a good shot the state championship.
There's both those teams are still undefeated. CDEO plays at Maranna tonight.
Miranda's won and three, but they're always dangerous with Desmond Roebuck and they're playing
at their home field for the first time the whole season. They're playing tonight
as seeing the cdeos come in there, so that should be a good game.
I don't know if you guys saw, but Desmond Roebuck, he's a
view of a recruiting target. He had nineteen catches last week in the Lost
and Mount View nineteen catches for one hundred and eight yards. So it's too
shy of John Missler's state record. He's a he's gonna if he can,
if he if Arizona gets him, he's gonna be one of those guys that
kind of like almost like an Elijah Rushing. Maybe not to like five star
degree, but he's one of those playmakers that people are going to be proud
that he stayed at Arizona. But yeah, that's a big game tonight.
You know, there's sell points off tonight. They're they're four and ozer Uh,
They're they're rolling along. I don't think there's been any game for them
closer than a three touchdowns they've they've won by wide margins, so they're they're
right there in the thick of things. They start their six A Central Region
play next week, right, which is mostly Phoenix area schools. You mentioned
Michael Mountain, you know and we had Michael Mountain, right, we had
their coach Pat Pat Nugent on you know what what's going on over there?
And how do they look? They're they're four No, they've won nine straight
since last year, Like I said, service since Richard sanchis going the coaching
staff, they haven't lost. And and when Jimmy Leon became knowledgeable after trans
from Seal plains the defensive end, they haven't. They haven't lost either,
as US already offered him a scholarship. So uh, he's definitely worth the
Arizona to look at. He's he leads some of the Arizona with the eight
sacks. He's just a beast on the on the coming off the edge.
So they're they're four. No, they're gonna play Constagrants and tonight at home
Consta Grants three and one, so that should be a good matchup for them.
Also tonight, where's Jay Dobbins. We said this sorrow, So how's
that team? Because they have a pretty good coaching staff there, don't they
they do? They're they're two and two, they won two in a row,
and they're gonna get some transfers here, like a couple from Mica Mountain
and they're gonna be They're gonna be more competitive here. In the next couple
of weeks or two and two. They play Iron the rich tonight, which
is a pretty interesting game with Iron Ridge three and one. Uh yeah,
Jay Dobbins on that staff, you got Dennis Benet as the offensive coordinator.
You got Cam Denson as a defensive backs coach. Wow, you know l
Alexander who Jay knows what this Diversell the head coach. So they had some
really good coaches there. Well, that was another place too, getting back
to the politics of its Scott McKee, who was seemingly going to a great
job over there, then all of a sudden he was gone. And then
he's somewhere else now because we found that out ye at uh cdo Yeah,
that's the consultant. So high school, Oklahoma right with love Phoma or Alabama.
Yeah, So let me ask you, how have you been back for
a while now into the city of your hometown. Football here seems to have
increased, uh in terms of talent a lot. I wouldn't say a lot,
I would say it has increased. I think I think COVID nineteen really
really affected UH. The Arizona more than it did Phoenix because there there are
some student athletes that went up to Phoenix after when that all came about,
and that that affected some some of the talent pool here. But you know,
it's kind of increased with the Lijah rushing and Jonah will hide uh Kylie
Woodard at CDEO. There's some really good talent here that could play at the
Division one level or that will play at the Division one level. Uh Kayden
Luke the running back at CDO I expecting to be a Division one player.
There's there's a number of them. It is increasing, right, getting better.
So wait, we went to the game, so how lead were you
there doing the raindo? I ended up leaving there eleven thirty, eleven eleven
forty. They were turning out to light. I was asleep by that time
for sure. All right, so let's talk a little Let's talk cats a
little bit. Stanford Arizona tomorrow. You know, the thinking is that Arizona
should go over there and beat the hell out of them, but we all
you know, you've been around long enough, Steve hasn't so avid to know
that you don't take anything for granted when you're when you're Arizona. What do
you think tomorrow? Yeah, so I grew up just like you see in
Jay's watching them and when they play, when they're favorite on the road,
that's when you're there, you're really like you're nervous because they don't play well.
It's a favorite on the road. I don't know what the points for
it is in the game, but uh, I would think that they can
take care of Stanford though the problems that they're having with the first year coach
and get didn't get any things situated there quarterback is I think they're struggling at
quarterback right. Yeah. I would assume that Arizona's defense can continue to improve
and I think I think they can come out of there with the win.
The team, there's a different feeling about this team than we've felt in the
last wet three or four years, five years, eight years, different film,
there's a different feeling with it. It is, but it's the spreads
eleven and a half, by the way, or if that's what it was
yesterday, that's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think
it is. But I won't touch it. I'm not touching it. I'm
not touch it. No, No, you can't know again, you know
Arizona on the road, in the Pact, in the you know, in
the league game, you just you just never know what to expect, so
not touch. Well, thanks for joining in the last pinch hitter role.
Yeah, appreciate nice job. And I was thinking that Jake Fisher you guys
are talking about, guys, could be two way guys. I think Jake
Fisher could have been a good run to be like a running lead running back
blocking back. He was fast for he played that. I think. Yeah,
he was a running back and he played that at irowand Ridge, So
he was a dog. He'd be he'd be good. I guess, yeah,
I guess he could have been. Yeah, okay, kind of a
bowling ball type of running back, right, full back tech right, Okay,
Mike st st striking Remember Striden Stridening, Mike Stridnick remember him? Oh
yeah, yeah back yeah when they got fall back. Yeah yeah. Okay,
Hey guys, thank you, Hey, thanks a much. I appreciate
you have a good weekend, you too, Thank you. Remember those days
just like Mike Stridening, wasn't he he was on the like the early eighties
or late late eighties early nineties teams yeah, give him the ball third and
ten. Give him the ball for three exactly. All right, man,
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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera here. Jacons Ols got a
guy said in today we have eleven minutes if you guys want to call five
to zero four one seventy four forty Do you have something you want to talk
about? Okay? Okay, So I was just on Twitter something to do,
but I saw that Dion was talking about how recruiting high schools or that
he felt sorry for high school players because recruiting high school players is not in
anymore. Yeah, because of the transfer report. Right, Why go after
a high school kid if he's not rushing where you already have guys who know
how to play to come in and play for you. Yeah, and that
he's saying, the only incentive that you I should One of the incentives is
that universities need to up the scholarship numbers so they can go after high school
kids. But the transfer portal is kind of created a lot of kids.
That's where that's where the recruiting is taking place. Yeah. And and the
thing is it's already been proven to work, and even to Jac's because Jac's
this is now the new jac This is the new j C. And what
what you know, what it is is that you know, you go to
uh, you know, Southern Utah, right, you know that that kid
that was didn't quite get the you know, the the you know, the
major school scholarship goes to Southern Utah or you know there's a school that takes
a lot of two son kids, Adams State, right, you know,
take the and those kids go there, play a year or two, get
get their film out, and the next thing you know, they're at Arizona
or wherever. Give you two jay, I'll give you two ones on the
team right now. Yeah, it was not really recruited. Went to Utah
because he wasn't really recruited. Right now, he's hearing he's gonna be a
star, and he a star. And the kid that we talked to his
dad Lopez, Yeah right, no one won more. He was in New
Mexico State, ended up in Arizona and then the NFL. No, you're
right, you know, and and again when when you talk about and look,
we we've talked about you know, Dabbo Sweeney over at Clemson, he's
trying to hang onto the whole thing of I want to get my guys from
high school. They don't have any bad habits. We bring them in,
we we we uh coach getting, we coach them up. We get him
into our culture and we develop them. But what happens if you got you
know, the position you're you're you're bringing in a high school let's say a
right tackle, all right, and you've got a right tackle starting right tackle,
and he decides to leave. Now you've got to play the true freshman.
And you weren't expecting that, And and that that's what's happening over at
Clemson, and white people saying they're they're you know, they're losing ground is
because they're losing you know, because look, Arizona's got transfers from Alabama,
Michigan, Oregon, US. I mean, they got transferred from all these
schools. Those guys they go other places and and and some of them might
might be going just because they want to play somewhere else. Maybe they you
know, maybe they were playing wherever they were, but they said, you
know what I've got. You know, I'm a graduate student. Now I've
got a fifth year. I want to go play where I want to play,
right And so they leave, and now there's a big giant hole in
there, and you can't always fill that with a high school kid, quarterback,
especially quarterback especially. We do not see any more true freshman starting anymore.
And very very fair in terms of just players. Yeah, like like
true freshman coming that's what he said. And then they go get kids out
of the port. That's what he said, he says, And you don't
see ridshirt freshman either, because they're not gonna sit. They're gonna transfer.
Right. Well, you have one now, police, who's gonna do that
because he's good enough, Right, he's good enough. And how rare is
that? Yeah, no, it's it's changed everything. And you're right that
the ones that are losing out are the junior colleges. You know, those
kids are having Look, they'll play somewhere because you know what the people the
players that are coming from, let's say the group of five schools and even
the smaller schools or those are gonna get They're gonna get the high school kids.
And then he got some you know, look, Travis Hunter went to
went to Jackson State, right what an hbc U school. He was the
top recruit in the country. Right, Well, he wanted to play for
you, he wanted to play for but the point being that he didn't feel
like he had to go to Ohio State or Michigan or somewhere to get to
where he wants to go. And at the end of the day, j
to get to where you want to go is the big thing? Right?
Where can I get to the league? Right? Well, you know,
I mean why did why did why did Dorian Singer leave Arizona? Because his
goal was to you know, he wants to get into the league. The
system now afforded him the opportunity to make whatever moves he needed to make to
improve his chances. We walked on in Arizona. He gets you know,
he does well, he gets attention, USC comes calling him. Now he's
at USC where he's getting more and more visibility and he's gonna get noticed and
don't forget NL and then don't forget Did you see where? I don't know,
I hope I'm not mistaking this, but where uh sent her Son?
The quarterback was making like eleven million or something? When the hell? Why
in the hell would you want to leave that place? And then eleven million?
Indian said you ain't leave in college anytime soon. Well, yeah,
yeah, I heard it. I heard that quote. I didn't know it
was in the context of that I heard it. Well, it was not
in the context. It was just two separate, two separates. Oh but
yeah, I did hear him say, you know, I just heard a
clip of him saying, you know, guys don't have to leave college anymore
to make they can Some of these guys can make more money here than they
can. You know. In the NFL, Williams dad was quoted saying something
similar like, if if the team that's there at number one, we don't
like it, sure he's already making five or whatever he was making. Yeah,
yeah, no, yeah, why would you. No, he has
said if he doesn't like the team that that, uh, you know he's
gonna draft you. But look he's gonna roll the dice and then he may
not like the next team either, right right, right, Well, so
you don't have to go to the problem there. But no, it's no
that it no, it has totally changed everything. The whole recruiting. Look,
the top players, the Elijah Rushings, you know, those guys,
they're still gonna get recruited. They're still gonna go to the big school.
But when you're talking about that that three star kid you know, or the
two stars Scoop, you know, one of those guys, they might not
wind up or they're gonna wind up at they're gonna fill a hole, you
know, at a lower level that was created when a school at a higher
level took somebody's Well, and here's here's the thing. The two two stars
scoops are gonna go to the Mexico States or the Naus, prove their worth
and then go and then find their way again and there, you know,
And that's just the way it's gotta be a coach. It's gotta get used
to the who there was? Who's I listening to? Uh? Could be
anybody? I know I was listening to something. I might have been one
of the podcasts I'm just talking about. Can you imagine what Bosham, Beckler,
Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant and no, uh, Joe Paterno, you
know coaches like that, legendary coaches like that, Their heads would have exploded.
Well, no, they'd be Clemson, they'd be we don't need that
crap, we don't need that crap. Their heads would have well, it's
kind of like we talked about with with this all this stuff. Okay,
he might he took a Brian Williams, he took a Chris Meals, but
it was very selective and what he did because he had the other guys to
fill in the spot. But I'm sure we've hated it. He said,
those those guys would have hated this. They probably would have gotten out because
of it. As we've seen other coaches in various sports, just football.
You know, we've talked about you know, would Loud have hated this?
Yes, well, there's no question. There's no question, Kindle Loot.
Even Dick told me, even you would have said, I can handle it.
I can handle it. In fact, he take, Dick told me,
would have thrived in this. Yeah, we can recognize your talent.
We can take it. Let's take this call higher on the air and I
on the ball. How's it going today? What's up Brian? You about
two minutes? Okay? You guys are talking about the possibility my helm,
everything about people not going into the draft because they can make more money.
There's one problem that they have to worry about, and especially Caleb Williams if
he decided, like Jay said, get picked by a crap your team the
next year. But you got to worry about injury. Yeah, that's true,
yep. And that's probably the most important thing is that, well I
take my shot and get my you know, my twenty million dollars in the
pros, you know, or do I stay in college and go ahead and
make them at a couple of millions for the next year. Well, and
that's the possibility if I blow out my knee, I'm shot. Well.
One of the things I heard about that was that, you know, if
you're Caleb Williams, you know, get your butt into the NFL because you
want to get to your second contract as soon as you can. And so
yeah, that was the argument against that. Yeah, no, I can
understand some of these guys might be a third or fourth round pick. That's
fine, But those guys win the first or second round, they need to
go as fast as they can. I agree, But yeah, possible,
you make more money, alright. Also to the cat should win by eighteen
eighteen, you're going eighteen Okay. I like to pick. I like to
pick a lot, but I like it. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Brian, Hey, thanks a bunch man, appreciate it. Have a
good weekend, all right. No, And that was the that was the
argument that I heard about about Caleb Williams, that you know, look,
your body can only take so much over a certain amount of time. You
know, don't if you don't have to spend another year in college, then
don't go get go get If you're if you're a Caleb Willibs, you're gonna
get your money. Ye, go get it in the NFL. Right.
I get it that you want to play for a winner, Dad, But
if you're a top five draft pick, you're gonna be on a bad team
no matter what. So just right, and your opportunity to play it is
very good, but higher because if you're if you played for a really good
team, you're sitting behind the starter. I mean Bryce Young, he's starting
in his first I don't think he should be. No, No, I
don't think he should. Well, he's not playing well either. I mean
it kind of shows you in the time. It doesn't hurt now, so
good luck with us. I mean he's hurt. What happened to him.
He's out for He's out this week and maybe another another game after that.
Okay, I was gonna I was gonna say, he's a shorter quarter quarterback.
Right, he's a shorter quarterback. He was a small guy. So,
I mean, I don't think that, man, how you sustain that
level of play against those big guys coming out either man, that's a tough
job. It is. It is a tough job, you know, kind
of Murray mask to wait for that's what that's why the Red Rifle had it
made. Holding the clipboard just just yeah, just hang around and you'll get
to play at some point if you hang around in the right play. Yeah,
okay, absolutely all right. We're gonna take our break into the first
hour. We're gonna come back breaking news with with Sid here at the top
of the hour, and then John Willer joining us about four or fifteen.
We'll cover a number of subject with him, So stick around for all that
as we head towards our hap five Friday picks at the end of the next
hour. So I'm gonna have a good sand rolling in there about in the
Atlanta some Saturday. I'm a good