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You're listening to KFI A six on
demand. Joe, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Hello, how can
I help you? Well? Got a

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life situation? Okay, it does
concern God, at least my relationship with

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God, because I've for the last
two years now, I've had this kind

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of lack of interest funk that I'm
going through that happened ever since I had

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the first insomnia I've ever had in
my life. I had it for two

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and a half months two years ago. Ever since then, I've just had

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this general lack of interest that doesn't
seem like my regular personality. And as

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far as my God relationship, I've
prayed many times. I've I've heard through

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my research in the Christianity years ago
that nothing's impossible with God, that the

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difference between God's power and my power
is an immeasurable It's so vast I would

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think it would take basically nothing for
God to be able to just in a

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sense, snap God's fingers staying I
mean back to regular and I can't figure

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out why that hasn't been done yet. Usually when that hasn't been done,

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it's because something is still in progress
of being learned. God isn't toying with

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you or playing around. It's a
matter of a few things, one of

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which the human the physical nature of
humanity, and the biological machine that you

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are is complicated and there's many things
to it. So to get a clearer

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picture, first, are you saying
that you had about with insomnia two years

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ago that lasted for two months or
are you still wrestling that. I can't

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you can usually find it something on
the internet about anything. I'm not dealing

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with insomnia that got solved with the
one or two different drugs from a local

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ND. What I'm dealing with is
post insomnia, and there is nothing on

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the internet I can I type in
post insomnia, life after in SOMNYA,

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and I can't figure out if what
I'm going through is even normal or if

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anybody's ever had it in their lives, except I have called a couple of

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psychiatrists and asked them, have you
dealt with insomnia? Have you dealt with

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the funk of lack of it just
comes after it? And at least a

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few of them have said they have, So if they're telling the truth,

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then other people have gone through this. So you're saying that you have kind

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of a lack of zest for life. Well, people that knew me back

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then that know me now say I'm
definitely sounding better and using better words,

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you know, like I've evolved to
being more of whatever I am. But

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I know I'm just not the same
the person before the day that it all

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happened. That person is not what
I am right now. Okay, Well

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there's a couple of things and again, and I know why it happened.

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Basically, you know why the insomnia
happened, right What was going Okay,

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what was going on? I haven't
called a friend that day and said something

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feels really weird inside. So I
was trying to be a personal trainer for

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many years. Clients come, clients
go. A life situation came up such

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that I had no clients at a
point two years ago, and I said,

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I have to run an AD to
get some And I figured I'd have

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an AD for about four months,
because you want it out there so people

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can see it coming away from the
place where I ran the AD. I

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only ended up with a month and
a half for however, our meeting went

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there what they advised me to do
for the best clients whatever. So after

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a month and a half. So
I was riding my bicycle home thinking,

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what if nobody sees the AD in
a month and a half, because I

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thought I was going to have four
months. What am I going to do

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then? Is it a whole career
change? I mean, it'll be gone.

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And that's when I got home and
called a friend and said, something

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feels really weird inside of me.
And that's the night insomnia started. And

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I had had concerns over money over
the last twenty years, so thinking about

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money problems and trying to how to
solve them wasn't new to me. But

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that night, unless I took the
drugs I eventually got the doctor, I

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could never get any sleep at all. I'd get right to the edge of

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falling asleep and there would be like
this wall there and I just couldn't sleep.

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But now so then I got a
client a few days later off the

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AD so great and that gave me
most of the money I needed. But

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I couldn't get rid of it Insombia, and I was thinking, you got

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to get rid of it. Now, you have to look healthy. This

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is the person you're training. And
I at times, about a month later,

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still with the insomnia, had to
hold on to the gym, the

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home gym. This person had even
to keep standing up to be able to

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train them, which is kind of
a jokin and of itself, because here

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I was deteriorating as I was supposed
to teach health. Well, although this

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is certainly not a show that deals
with medicine, it's not the focus.

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I'm not a doctor, right.
I looked at the morality of things,

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and we use scripture to take a
look at the world and to see it

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through that lens. Now, but
in your circumstance, well, that was

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my thing. Is the question with
the whole God. I know it's not

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about medicine, but it's just like
it's patience I've had to try to have

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over this time, to just in
a sense of wait for this to get

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gone. Were you patient before?
I would say, I would considered to

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be very intelligent, and I guess
not about intelligence. Were you patient before?

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Because some of the markers that you've
given me our point to anxiety?

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The marker about the four months now
to one and a half months, there's

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certain things that you've said that point
to anxiety. Would you have considered yourself

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a patience person or have people pointed
out that you're not always patient. I'm

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very quick to think, quick to
talk, and people would say anywhere,

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some would say he's patient. The
other ones would say he needs things done

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now. And so that'd be a
hard question to answer. Okay, in

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the God's scheme of things, there's
a couple of things going on. You've

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changed the chemistry of your body in
a couple of ways that possibly, I

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mean, very much, I would
think that happened. Absolutely, Still,

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something in my brain is not the
same. It changed, but it doesn't

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mean that it won't be. It
changed. The day you had what sounds

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like panic, what sounds like intense
anxiety. The day that you did that,

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your chemicals change. I mean,
it's just the way things work,

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so much so that you knew it. You felt it. Something slipped away

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and you felt like, hey,
the stability the ground beneath me does not

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feel solid. And you mentioned that
to a friend or family member whoever you

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called that day, so you knew
that something had changed. Now, the

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doctors to balance that out, because
it was prolonged, gave you new chemicals

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to take away the symptom of that, which is to put you to sleep

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essentially and let you relax. And
medicine is miraculous in many ways and could

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do many things. And doctors depending
on who you went to see. Did

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you go see a general practitioner or
your general doctor? And they prescribed the

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sleep medicine. It's general. They
give you an anty depressant because I think

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depression insomnia related to each other,
and so I gave you that, and

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then something very strong called tamazepam that
suppose that you can't stay on very long.

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It's supposed to knock you out for
eight hours, and it did nothing

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the first night. I could eventually
get two hours out of it. So

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when I went back after a week
and a half, he goes, well,

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take one and after two hours later
you wake up, take another one.

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So I considered myself possibly on a
high dose of it because I was

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back to backing it. But I
finally got to sleep at least four to

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five hours a night, so I
felt a little secure in my pattern.

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And then after a month and a
half, he says, we got to

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get you off of this. It's
dangerous, and he used something else to

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get me off of that, and
eventually that thing worked, and then I

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got off of hit and the whole
thing was over. I was hoping,

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but then this lack of interest thing
has been hanging out for the last two

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years. Okay, so there again, I'm thinking maybe even the stuff I

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used to get off of it zap
my head a little bit and it takes

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a while for it to come back. Indeed, you said that you have

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or have not visited a psychiatrist.
That's the final thing. My mother and

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I are very tired of this process. And I'm now I've called so many

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of them. Someone want to give
on the phone. They are four or

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five six hundred for the first hour
and a half assessment and then three hundred

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hour after that. So it's pretty
pricey, but if they could guarantee it,

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it'd be worth it. Well,
there's no guarantees, but I will

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tell you this from what you've said, and it's very reasonable to say that

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you have altered things. And let's
look at it from your strength. Right,

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as a trainer, there are people
that have done horrible things to their

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body, the foods they eat,
the lack of exercise, and your job

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is to reverse that and get them
into new goods and patterns, right,

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not to give them a diet pill, not to just say okay, here's

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a quick fix. It's a lifestyle
change in a process and an easy to

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understand one. And if I had
an ankle injury or I file as OBE,

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so this is that I do rehabs, I would be able to work

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on something. This thing, it's
like it's my brain and you're out of

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Yeah, you're out of your strength. How I can work? I stare

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at my brain from the lives clothes, thinking, if you're so bright,

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if you're so intelligent, how do
you not figure out how to balance out

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your own chemicals? You know?
Well? Sometimes though, and this is

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not to downplay general practitioner doctors.
They're wonderful and they do amazing things,

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but sometimes if you're dealing with they're
just dealing with those symptoms. So I

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think that's rather than I said.
A psychiatrist has to know more about brain

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chemicals and a local MD. And
that's basically my little hope and dream that

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once I would actually be there talking
with one, hopefully they'd go, oh,

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no, I've seen that many times. Try this and it may or

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may not be that quick, to
be honest with you, Joe, but

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I will tell you this that the
little time that we spent together I would

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say that it is a wonderful choice
to find out and see if the psychiatrist

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has different insight and maybe can wean
you off of some of these things that

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sound like they've leveled you out,
that you have no highs and no lows.

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You kind of are in the middle, just your tonality. On the

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air, we speak to a lot
of people. However, I will say,

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on the God side of things,
the spiritual side of things, you

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do have an issue with patience.
I can hear it in your voice.

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I can hear it in your voice, and I can hear it even pushing

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through the medication. And I understand
that it's been a long time that you've

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been wrestling with this and that that's
going to be a natural part of that.

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But I can hear that. So
I offer you this that whenever God

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allows you to go through a trial
and you're going through it and there's something

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about it that just doesn't seem right, you're not hearing or you're not you're

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not grasping that one thing that He's
trying to get to you. And I

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think patience is going to be a
very powerful part of that. So I

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want you to kind of meditate to
think on that. I'd love for you

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to open up scripture and maybe even
if it's just going through Proverbs and just

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reading little bits and pieces, to
start under prayer and see what God has

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to say. Really be there,
not just hey, God, help me

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get me out of this. Just
what do you want me to see?

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What am I missing? And I
think that that will have, along with

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these other decisions, will have a
powerful, powerful change in your life.

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You know, it's interesting. There's
so many things that have great importance in

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life, and people kind of push
them aside and get focused on the things

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that are right in front of them
only. But there's a great vast importance

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that God has for you. And
I know it's not in vogue to have

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faith really, at least not in
faith in God. People have put them

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their faith into all kinds of other
things, sadly, and not something that

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the Bible is ignorant of. But
people are starting to put their faith into

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themselves. And I know, on
the surface, you hear that and you

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think, well, that's good.
That means people have self confidence and self

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esteem. It's not about that.
It's that if you're only reliant on yourself

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for the things of God, for
the spiritual things. Then you are your

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own God. And I assure you, if you are your own God,

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then you're going to let yourself down. Now. On the flip side of

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that, there are those that have
faith that look towards God during times of

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pain, times of frustration, trials
and the like and say, why God

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are you taking me through this?
Well, the Bible's very clear you will

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go through trials, you will experience
tough times. Faith Christianity doesn't remove those

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tough times from your life. It
helps you get through them and hopefully learn

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something through them. When you are
continually going through the process of a trial

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and it seems like it's going on
and going on forever, it is very

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easy to say God, why me. But usually when people are saying that,

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the expectation is to jar God and
have God go oh my gosh,

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yeah, I didn't mean for you
to go through this, I apologize and

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clear it away rather than saying God, why me? What do you have

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planned? Why do you need me
to learn? What do you want me

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to see? What do you want
me to know that I don't now?

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And coming from the trial from that
mindset will set you up to receive and

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to understand better than just kicking the
can and being frustrated. But I assure

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you, if you're in that trial, there is something something to be learned

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ed. Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Thank you for taking my prayer.

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I call. I'm almost embarrassed ask
this question. Oh, don't be.

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It's regarding the Lord's prayer, which
is so beautiful. I don't know

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why I didn't ask this question earlier. The meaning of that I will be

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done on earth as it isn't have
an I if you would explain the meaning

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of that. Sure. The prayer
is often quoted and not always understood in

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its fullness. So I'm glad that
you call. There's there's so much to

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it, and it's quite beautiful as
you go through. Let's say, go

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through it in Matthew. When you
go through the prayer and you listen to

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the specifics of it, our Father, who are in heaven, hello'd be

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thy name, thy kingdom Come,
They will be done on earth as it

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is in heaven. That really the
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you read it, I say prayer, pray like this, I'm not saying,

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just recite this prayer and it's not
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but I'm saying pray like this,
and the language there is very important

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because really I'm giving a template for
prayer, explaining the different the different things

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that go into a prayer that make
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case you have the beginning, it
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our Father, where art in heaven. That's acknowledging who God is and where

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God is, that he's on his
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Hallowed be thy name, that God
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Thy will be done on earth as
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is validating the promise of God that
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usher in those that believe into heaven. So Thy Kingdom Come is acknowledging that

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promise with the Covenant of God,
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Thy will be done on earth as
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the fact that God's will being done
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and that in heaven it's already done
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So everyone in heaven is applying the
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that that that has taken place in
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allow people to see your will to
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that is part of the petition.
The prayer there give us this day our

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daily bread is talking about sustenance and
having that balance in life and taking in

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what you need, not what you
want. Forgive us our debts, as

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we also forgive our debtors. You
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things we do, but allow us
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not to temptation. Another verse that
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This is not God leading you into
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please don't do that. Stop leading
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lead us away from temptation and deliver
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goes on as some people will add, for Thine is the Kingdom, the

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power, and the glory forever.
I mean. But that's very powerful when

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you go through that and you see
that those different parts are about the different

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parts of prayer that you should have
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help you to connect with God.
So excellent question. I appreciate that.

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Ed James. Welcome to the Jesus
Christian. Yes, I'm calling regarding some

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problems that I have. I'm a
born again Christian and thought I could take

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on an industry that I just had
no business taking taking on, and I

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need to see if I can get
back into the God's flock, trying to

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try not to be so shameful what
I've done in the industry. This particular

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industry was pornography, okay, And
was there a pattern that you saw?

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Were you just curious at first?
And then yeah, I was curious at

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first, kind of grew up in
the area that it seemed like it was

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not a bad thing to do.
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to I wanted to get rid of
it because I felt then after being saved

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that it was wrong. And maybe
there's a lot of people that had fell

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into that and maybe that's why they
didn't want to turn to God. I'm

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not for sure, but I thought
I can take it on, and I

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did. When I did go through
the motions of trying to see how I

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can do that with petitions, moratoriums
and things of that nature, and then

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I just kind of fell back into
it. I confess that, and then

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the reason that I kind of fail
back is the shame. But also you're

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you're also just labeled so much and
it's just kind of hard. How so

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you mean by people that find out
or by people in the church, right,

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exactly exactly more people in the church
are struggling with it than you may

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think. So that kind of judgment
usually comes with the concept of people trying

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to make themselves better than you.
So I wouldn't worry about that. Just

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now worry about yourself and your connection
with God. That's okay, that's key.

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times a day, Oh, I'm, I'm it's more under the control now.

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Just I just struggled with just going
back to church. That's that's more

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or less it. And and we
and and not wanting to be dishonest about

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the real the relevation of that,
but to be honest about it and how

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I go about or should I even
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you do, then that's the thing
of pointing starts. Well, if it's

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something that you are in control of
through prayer and through changing lifestyle, things

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doing. There's many things that can
be done. What you can put adult

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I know it seems silly, but
you can put restrictions. Yeah, do

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things like that just to remind you, to give you more hurdles to jump

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over. And like I said,
I've been doing that and I'm controlling it.

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Sure hits. I'm sorry, no, and I just don't want you

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to get The enemy is very good
at taking humanity and the things that come

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with humanity, the sin nature of
man and these types of things, and

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really trying to put so much shame
on top of it that you won't show

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your face in a church, or
you won't show your face around the people

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of God. So that the thing
that is human and frustrating and part of

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your walk and really part of you
getting closer with God by removing things like

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pornography from your life. But the
enemy, even in that victory, wants

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you to feel shame. And you
can't let the enemy get that foothold in

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your life because the pornography is bad
enough, because that's something that gets a

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foothold that makes you feel bad about
yourself. It's a very limited pleasure time.

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All of these things is what builds
the addiction there. But now when

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you are working or pushing it out
of your life, the enemy loves to

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go. You're filthy. You should
feel nothing but shame. God doesn't even

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want you in his house. The
people of God, they don't love you,

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they don't care about you. They
don't want you there because that still

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serves his purpose. His entire purpose
is to keep you from God. And

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that is worse than any pornography you
can look at. That is the true

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vulgarity in life and the spiritual life, is the enemy lying in your ear

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day in and day out that you're
not worthy of God, when God himself

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said you are so worthy that I
will send my son to die on the

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cross and resurrect three days later so
that you shall be saved. And to

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allow the devil to speak to you
like that is to reject that very gift

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of grace. And you need to
push through it, and you really need

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it. Doesn't mean you need to
wear a scarlet letter on your jacket or

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shirt you need to tell everybody every
time you walk into a church, it's

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not about that. And don't feel
that. I know I appreciate the fact

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that you want to be honest but
even at church, you don't meet everybody

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and shake hands and go I'm an
alcoholic. Oh well, I love pornography.

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Oh I cheated on my wife.
I can't have a relationship. Now,

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that's not how you greet everybody.
Because humans are humans, and even

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believers wrestle with those things and are
fearful of them and will judge you differently

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until they get to know you.
So if it as you get to know

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somebody or your pastor or these types
of things, and if it comes up

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and it's appropriate, absolutely, It's
not that you're trying to hide it or

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stuff it down. It's just not
a good thing to lead with. And

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that's what I did. I lead
with it. Yeah, it's a tough

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one, brother, because they they
there's an automatic belief to that, and

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even though it could be somebody who
themselves are struggling with it, they'll still

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want to judge you. I revealed
it under the guise of that it would

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be a coup, that I did
it confidentially, and that I tell you,

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that's what a portrayal that was.
Well, humans are humans, and

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there you will It is a betrayal. Absolutely, This was someone in leadership.

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Yes, yeah, that's that's gross, but it is, but that's

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going to happen. And I learned, and like I said, you know,

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I had such a strong relationship and
I know I can rebuild that and

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I know that what my gift is, I'm an encourager and I can encourage

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people. I really love encouraging people, and I love your show. I

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just took me a little while to
get to you. And I appreciate your

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answers and they are rot on the
nose, So thank you so much.

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In anybody else that's listening that had
that problem, Jesus loves you, man,

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and you can go to him,
and I appreciate your help. Brother.

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You know what happens quite a bit, James, and I want you

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to really think about this, is
that people that have the gift of certain

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things, like you say, encouragement, almost never ever impart that gift onto

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themselves. And you have to allow
yourself to hear those very same words that

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you've given others time and time again, those words of encouragement and kindness,

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acceptance, and you need to allow
yourself to have them as well. Guard

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yourself until you feel safe. Not
every church, sadly, is safe,

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not every person in a church is
safe, even though there will be those

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that are so guard yourself as you're
opening up and you're learning about a church.

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I'm sorry that you'd open up to
somebody and you'd say, Hey,

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this is what I'm wrestling with and
they did not keep that in confidence or

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they treated you different because of it. That really is a horrible sin,

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unto itself. But understand that you
are coming out from underneath being a slave

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to this. Two Peter two nineteen
says that for whatever overcomes a person to

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that, he is enslaved. And
if there's something that overcomes you, and

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in this case it's pornography and that
sensation of orgasm, whatever it is building

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those things up, or the release
that comes with it, those types of

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things can be very powerful, and
I want you to work through them,

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obviously as you're doing. But I
don't want you to feel the shame of

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the enemy that whispers in your ear, because all that does is trying to

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keep you from God, and you're
not going to fall for that. And

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I don't want you to fall for
that. The enemy hates you, and

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the enemy hates me, and the
enemy wants nothing more than to keep us

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away from each other because in that
bond, in that relationship, there is

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strength, strength to truly overcome,
strength to guard yourself against the ways of

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the enemy, which are ultimately death, not physical death necessarily, but spiritual

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death. And the enemy has a
way of finding those soft spots in your

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life, poking at you day in
and day out, seeing how you respond.

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And when the enemy finds what you
respond to, then he pounces.

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And when the enemy sees something in
your life, whether it be pornography or

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whatever it might be, that is
ruling it something that you're struggling with,

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knowing that you care enough to confess
it and to strengthen yourself and to remove

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it from your life. These addictions
that pull you down, that the world,

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the very hurdles that the enemy has
put in front of you, or

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bad enough. But the moment you
get strength to push them aside, the

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moment you get strength to say,
I won't let this put me in bondage

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anymore, I won't let this control
me. I will not be enslaved.

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And you push past them and you
start to better yourself. Then the enemy

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switches gears and he just slithers up
next to you and gets in your ear

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and says, Wow, that sure
was a pretty big hurdle. You probably

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aren't even over it yet, And
it doesn't really matter, because even if

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you're over it, even if you
remove it from your life, you've got

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the stink of that, the scars
from that, all over your body,

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and that's all anyone can see.
And that is so putrid to the nostrils

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of God. He will turn himself
from you because of what you've done.

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But the enemy is a liar,
and the enemy plays on your insecurities.

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The enemy plays on the things that
you worry about, that you are constantly

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thinking of, because all he needs
is just to push it off a little

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bit. Each day. The less
time you spend with God, the less

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time you search for God, the
less time you spend praying, talking,

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connecting with God, is time that
He has you in a place of vulnerability.

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He has you in a place where
you're softened to Him, even when

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it's a place of strength. In
one arena, you're getting better, you're

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strengthening yourself, you're trying to purify
yourself through God. The enemy uses that

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transition to make you feel so bad
about yourself, to make you feel so

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ugly that you'll turn yourself away from
God. But he'll make you believe that

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it's God turning himself from you,
but I assure you it's not. My

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arms are always open and I'm facing
right at you, wanting nothing more than

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you to run right into them.
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