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This is I on the Ball with
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everybody. Welcome to I on the
Ball. This is Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. This is not a recording. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaken Zalez.

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Welcome to Tuesday Afternoon. Lots to
get to. I need a vacation.

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For my vacation. You never very
kay, you know you should have

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taken another day off. Is your
birthday? Oh yeah, thank you very

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much. I'm only a hundred,
but I'm fantastic for me, it looked

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good for what are you seventy five? Yeah, something like that. Should

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we should receiving Social Security? What
do you notice any different about me?

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You got glasses? I've always had
glass both class whatever. These are nothing

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else. You shave, shave,
You're like clean shaving. I shave.

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My mom hates it. I don't
like it either, So I'm gonna go

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back to I shaved. I shaved
just because I haven't forever. Yeah,

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and I just don't like it.
So I'm nine. It's gonna grow back.

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In two days. I'll be turned
to my shape ship. It takes

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me. Well, I can't grow
what you have, Okay, I can't.

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I could try, and this is
right. Here's like four days for

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you. Oh yeah, yeah,
but what I have today, you don't

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have a blood for it. I
shaved on Saturday morning. Yeah, yeah,

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three days exactly. I'm you're your
five o'clock shadow. Is my three

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day shadow? Four days? Yeah, well, welcomes. Good to be

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back. It's hot, man,
it was cool. I've never been to

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Basis was that's not cool like cool
weather, you know. But the evenings

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are still nice though. We're here. Oh yeah here, yeah, I

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know the evenings here was their day. It was unbelievable, how cool it

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was. Yeah, but blood to
be back. He was in got back

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in yesterdays in the nineties and ticking
holding Molly. It's gonna just around the

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corner. But it's supposed to be
nice, windy tomorrow, yeah, windy

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tomorrow. Yeah, no, it's
it's been nice. I gotta get out

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to cut the grass. Yeah,
speaking of you, I don't know if

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you saw uh um Jim Harbaw's comments
about that oh um at forty Sports Illustrated,

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he's been on our show, did
did? We're just doing a piece

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on him, just a summertime piece
on him, and asked Harbot, if

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he had not been a college football
player and then a coach, what does

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he think he would have done?
And he called himself. He said,

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I would have been a lawnsman.
I would have I would have gone into

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landscaping because I love cutting grass.
Yeah, so you know, he cuts

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his own grass and wherever whatever plantation
he's got. Or wasn't that the kid

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from Who's Who's the Doctor McDreamy?
Ye? Wasn't he the dude that cut

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grass and two songs? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, at that over at

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the hill farm, the place over
there. Yeah. But he in fact

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mentioned that he does because as he's
gotten older, he actually does have a

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riding lawnmarker. Yeah. Okay,
that's difficult work, right, Yeah exactly.

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I said, I cut grass,
but you know, my my grass

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is like you know, you know, sixty feet by thirty feet use more

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yeah, more like older. I
have a gas more thold school. When

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when you know, when I when
I first got that, I was a

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two t ePIE, so I had
an electric more, but that was a

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pain in the butt because I had
to be plugged in. It didn't have

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the battery, it had to be
plugged in. That I hated that.

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So I turned that in for a
gas more and now that that's got some

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issues now, so I got to
get a new more. I don't know

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what I'm gonna get, but well
it's it. You know. It takes

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me literally eight minutes cut my grass. Oh the tough work. Yeah,

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tough work. You're gonna do it
in the morning or late at night?

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Yeah, no, I do it. I generally do it in the mornings,

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especially in the summertime. But you
know, my grass is growing in

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again pretty minutes. Yeah, well, you know, and not you know,

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the other day I had we had
our grandson over and somebody was doing

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taking a tree down. So it
was that you know that uh chipper that

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they were throwing branches. It was
so loud, hours and hours. I

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hated that. So anyway, yeah, okay, but we welcome back Steve

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with the boys, your kids,
your kids and your kids, the interns.

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Yeah that, you know, we
had to. I thought we had

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a good show yesterday. We got
Kenzie Fower in here. We talked about

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talked about the softball tournament at the
sptball team. We did, uh,

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not much, you know, just
it's it's tough, you know, right,

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you know, she thinks she her
take was that they're just very young.

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She was, you know, I
went to a game the other day

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and she said, the entire outfield
was freshman. The short stop was a

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freshman, the first baseman was a
freshman, the pitcher was a freshman.

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Said, they're they're just very young, and you know, they don't get

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key hits, they don't have the
pitching that they need. But she said

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she had high hopes for them for
the future. Obviously, you know,

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not for this week, but certainly
for the future. You know, well,

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they got that they got stuck in
that playing game tomorrow night. They've

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got a su at six o'clock tomorrow
winner that has to go play UCLA on

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Thursday. Yeah, well not well, you put yourself in a situation now

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here you are. Yeah, okay, and baseball, we're gonna have Brian

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Peterson here in the first hour.
Yes, right, we're gonna talk all

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about that because as always driving back, luck to think about it to the

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car for six hours. Just how
we've at least I have bally hoo the

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UA spring sports because they've been fantastic
at least last year they were this year

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not so much. Outside of the
tennis team which is dual team has done

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well. Women's golf still doing well, still doing well, sot hanging in

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at the regional. I'm sure the
track team is kind of baby, doing

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some some good things with individuals,
right, but the baseball and the suffer

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two spring sports are not going well. What's up with Brian about that?

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He always has a nice opinion about
that, and then the second hour you

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try to get him on. We'll
get him in today. Corey Williams his

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twentieth year or whatever year it is
with his summer league tabs. Yeah,

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yeah, we'll talk to him.
We haven't talked to him since the basketball

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season ended. Just how goofy of
a year it was? Yeah, you

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don't see because he was a lot
of the games, right, he could

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have analyze all the games because he
was at the games and say what a

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crazy tournament, what a crazy season
it was? Yeah? And then how

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much because they see ninety four ninety
six, Fini ninety six. He went

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through first round loss in ninety five
first round loss in ninety three, so

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he's been to two first four or
you know after great seasons ninety three,

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D one seventeen and one yea great
ye seventeen one last two set of Clary

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in the first round, does that
whole body of work go to the crapper?

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Yeah? After after that, yeah, I mean, can you think

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about that team and people don't even
talk about that team as being one of

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the best teams. And it was, and it was unfortunately the way it

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ended it wasn't so much. So
we'll talk to him about that and maybe

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just talk about a lot of different
things, a lot of things going on

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in the news. Um, you
probably have a lot of bricky news.

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Yeah, I'm piling it up right
now. There's a you know, the

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death, high profile, high profile
death. We've got a big game boomer

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thing to talk about. Okay,
Okay, baseball? Uh no, saw

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baseball? What did you talk about
baseball? No baseball programs in the last

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last in the twenty first century.
No, this is this is something else.

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A couple of a couple of u
former UFA players got waved from their

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teams. Okay, Um, women's
golf, I mentioned um you know,

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we have to circle back on a
case that a criminal well knows the lawsuit

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actually, but since we've reported it
when it happened, we got to follow

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up, follow up on let's come
out of that. So it doesn't involve

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an Arizona guy, um, but
just something that we talked about way back

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when it happened. Still still a
lot of things from the Huggins a situation,

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A lot of news still coming following
from that. I was surprised what

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happened. And I'm just talking about
because I didn't have a chance to talk

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about it. I saw Twitter and
Facebook. You don't talk. Maybe Curl

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come back or she that ain't happened. You know, he got in a

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N I L deal and he's staying
there. Yeah, but you you had

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talked about something when he first moved
and and you you're weren't alone. How

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how is it going to be to
play for Bobby Huggins? Right? Because

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we know him as this old we've
known we've been at this business a long

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time. We knew thirty years ago
and not knew him, but we knew

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how we operated. Right. We
saw him at Cincinnati, We've seen him

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at at at West Virginia. You've
been up close personal working from ancuble a

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tournaments where he's a been. Yeah, so we kind of kind of saw

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that. But in my mind,
I thought he's going to be fine.

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Kerr would be because he's kind of
changed his ways in terms of he's got

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older, softer, and by all
reports that was the case, except and

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how he speaks, and he got
himself in trouble yesterday. Still he's still

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a gruff old guy that let me
maybe hasn't. This is a dumb question

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that I'm not even sure I should
ask it. But I am you're Hispanic

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last I checked. I'm Hispanic last
I checked. And I don't want to

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go into politics, but I'm sure
you have a lot of few friends there

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a lot of friends. You think
you have some friends that are a lot

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of racist. Oh, I have
family that's racist, perfect and I'm not

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saying immediate family. But but but
you know and you know that they are.

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Do they know that you know that
they are? I don't know.

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Wow, See, because I know
I do. I know I do,

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and I have good friends. They're
saying they know that I know they are?

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Yeah, Um, probably okay,
and they know that they're right I

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mean, here's your situation, right, they'll talk about they Jay, I

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love love seeing you, Jay,
love seeing you, but go home and

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see jays up. I know a
lot of racist people, and I have

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some racist friends set up. I
would call them friends, I say,

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people that I'm acquainted with, because
I tend to you know, I tend

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to stay away from people who I
know where that Well, my point where

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I was going was so they don't
tell you into your face, but but

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you find out, you know,
you find out. They go back to

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the room and the house or whatever, and they say stuff that was probably

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a conversation that should not have been
on the radio, but likely could have

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been somewhere else, drinking somewhere.
Well, if Bob Huggins said this thing

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on the radio, all right,
how many times does he say it when

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he's not on the radio or right? I know, I mean, I

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know people and you know, and
you know, and they don't even have

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to say those words to me,
but they say things that you know,

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you know, are you know,
they're they're you know, they're racist,

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they're they're And when I said and
when I'm talking about sort of a blatantly

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racist person, it's somebody who I
think doesn't like a certain kind of person,

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period of period, period of the
color of their skin, they're you

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know, just something about who they
are. Ye, So you know,

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on the radio or off the radio
is just what it is. It even

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if I didn't hear it. I
didn't hear it. I'm not sure if

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it's purposely or whatever. I read
it, and maybe the context is different.

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You heard it and you said maybe
there was a tinge of joking laughter.

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Well, they were kind of laughing
about they were laughing about something that

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happened at a Cincinnati Savior game.
And I know that that he that rivalry

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is right. And then he said
something about those those Catholic You heard,

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right, So what was the context? How did the context feel like he

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was joking? Yeah? It did, it did, But you still can't

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no no, no, no,
no, no no no. I'm not

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saying that, but but there's some
context behind this this and I'm not saying

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it's okay because it's not okay.
But things don't translate into paper. You

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know, I could say jerk,
ja'son jerk, and then it'll be written

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Ja's a jerk haha in the paper. And you're thinking, what what does

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he say that for the immediate thing
that I thought was, first of all,

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why didn't those guys hit the dump? Well? Right, right,

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but I'm understanding the host kind of
laugh. They laughed along with it,

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yeah, which which I think I
think they are as culpable in this as

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Bob Well, because neither one of
them said, none of them said,

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hey, Bob, you know you
really can't say that. Well, let

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me, I'll give to a smaller
point to this. And I'm not even

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sure why I'm talking about this.
Trump goes on a bus, the celebrity

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bus, what's his name, the
kid whatever, the guy the news reporter.

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Yeah, Trump says that who gets
fired? That dum that guy.

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So it's, you know, that's
kind of how we have to watch our

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words to. Sometimes we do,
sometimes we don't. But uh, it's

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it's it's a cruel, cruel world, though it is. It is,

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And uh, you know, I
mean we're we're we're dancing around this kind

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of thing too, because I you
know, I don't know, I I've

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thought about it, not enough that
it's been you know, on the in

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my brain, you know, since
yesterday. But you know, I think

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I'm kind of where Dan Wilkin is
the USA Today writer. You know,

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he's been on our show, who
said, if you say that and you're

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a CEO of a company or a
high love person coming, you're fired.

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You're as simple as that, You're
fired. You can't say that. You

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can't say that anymore because there's some
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and he didn't really mean it,
and he's apologized, and you know,

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he's been around a long time.
He's been a good guy. He's a

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Hall of Fame guy. You know, he's apologized. Cut him some slack,

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but Dan Wilkins right, no matter
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And then some guy called him out
on that said he said he shouldn't be

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fired. You know, people say
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and they shouldn't be fired. And
Dan Walkin said, Okay, walk into

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your where you work tomorrow, go
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Dan h Bob Huggins said, and
see how it works out for you.

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Or you're either gonna get them punched, you're gonna get fired, or you're

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gonna you're gonna be in the HR
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simple as that and says, say, why should it be any different from

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Bob Huggins as anybody else? Yeah, yeah, and I kind of agree

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with that. I don't know,
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take a while, probably, Well, if West Virginia does that, if

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they get they say we gotta get
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while to figure out something. They're
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Sure, they're not just gonna fire
him for cause he's not give him seventy

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something seventy ish. I think he's
seventy is um uh, And then you

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can't blame age. He's a smart
dude, funny dude. Uh, well

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the thing, Yeah, so he's
still young, dude, he's he said

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it twice. Yeah, that's a
bit. And he also, you know,

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he also insulted the Catholics, So
he went after a religion and you

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know, and and and uh and
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whatever you want to call it.
You know what the right word is for

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that. Um, you know,
he went after two things. You can't

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do that. Yeah, and so
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And I get it. He's you
know, he's been around for one hundred

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years coaching, and he's got a
pretty much a Hall of Fame career and

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all those kinds of things. But
you know, every there's a line for

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everybody. I don't care who it
is. Well, it got blurred,

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you know, over the last let's
say that four year period, right,

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it got blurred. But the line
still exists. If we're gonna if we're

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gonna continue to exist as a as
a wealth, as a rational society,

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we'll see what happens. Really got
to go. That was a quick fifteen

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minutes. Okay. Brian Peterson on
the other side, Jay, Yeah,

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Brian Peterson will talk a whole bunch
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you? I'm great? Thanks for
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with you. Hey, um,
just wanted to touch base with you.

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I know you're busy. The spring
sports this year have not been as nice

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as they as they have been to
us in the past, or at least

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recent past. How are you guys
handling it on your side with baseball not

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doing so well, softball not doing
so well in the key sports. Yeah,

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I mean this is setting up to
be um results in terms of going

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to the postseason. All that the
worst season in almost forty years. When

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you look at those two school programs
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loved by the committee or somehow manages
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PAC twelve tournament is going to miss
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Baseball same kind of deal, though
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MS is twenty nineteen. But if
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be the first time since nineteen eighty
four that neither baseball or softball has made

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the NCUBAA Tournament. Well, these
things happen, I mean it's other programs,

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other schools has happened more frequently.
But when you have a program like

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softball that essentially has been a nc
double A tournament staple, and for the

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longest time they were a guarantee to
make the World Series every year, to

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see them miss is just unfathomable.
And I wouldn't say it's completely unexpected considering

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the roster that was that it was
in place for this year and the turnover

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from Mike Andret Caitlin Lowe. It
certainly brings up a lot of questions about

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whether or not she's the right choice
for it, But I also think it's

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it's pretty early on that respect.
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With the way baseball rosters and recruiting
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using the previous coaches players with some
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some of the veterans, particular on
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good as hoped, so there is
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both cases, it's way too early
to pst justman on these coaches. M

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We had Kenzie Foller on talking about
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we got around to asking about Yove. She mentioned their youth, and uh,

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you know, I mean that Arizona
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know, throughout you know, I
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and that kind of thing. But
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where they've had young players and they've
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what's missing? Do you think any
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We know pitching has been tough,
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Sure, yeah, they're definitely missing
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that ace, and it's been a
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they've recruited well and they bring in
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team doesn't have the same kind of
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all those super seniors who were able
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and made the World Series. And
then last year had a couple veterans but

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still very young and got very hot
right there at the end to make it

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to the World Series. But you
know, during the offseason, they lost

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two of their best players in to
the transfer portal who ended up at UCLA,

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and we're not able to replace them
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fact, something to be said to
the you know, inability to grab much

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from the portal is a big concern. But that's also something that everyone is

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still figuring out when it comes to
that, and I think that that may

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be harder for newer coaches um to
be able to figure out, like someone

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without a lot of coaching experience and
all that. But I think this next

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recruiting class is supposed to be good. It's it's just a matter of being

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able to blend the use with the
veteran leadership. So, Brian, do

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you think and this is maybe overthinking
it from my end, but the two

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key people that left here to go
to UCLA UM probably had some NIL stuff.

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I get that, But do you
think that may have seen them writing

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on the wall how they stayed UM? Maybe? I mean there's when you

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have any sort of coaching change,
you're going to have some and when in

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a case like this where somebody from
the staff that's taking over, you may

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find out who really liked those assistants
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and who didn't. And you know
that that's always an opportunity for a change,

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that that's a possibility. But I
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combination of the money side, the
nil side, and the fact that when

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you have an opportunity to play or
UCLA, that's probably something that's hard to

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pass up. Now, I mean
that does show that there has become a

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big gap between UCA and Arizona,
because it used to be that those were

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the two schools that essentially got first
pick of every player. Now now that

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the Trance reportal exists, there's there's
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I don't know if it's so much
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if wouldn't you want to be part
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try to maintain rather than just you
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it would be at UCLA. Yeah
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they're waving at me. Yeah,
yeah, I mean really a lot of

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that goes into it, sir.
I mean you're what you're you know,

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you're watching a program like Oklahoma.
You know that's lost one game all year

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long. They've want to like forty
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I mean, you know what what's
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different from everybody else. It's not
just recruiting. You know, they're they're

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you know, they're they have a
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belief in their program, and they're
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And you know, yes, it's
why Arizona lost a couple of players

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to USC football and that that was
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But you know, with Kendrea retiring, and even though it's one of

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his former players and a decorated one
in Caitlin Lowe, there is that uncertainty

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and recruiting. It's just as much
about negative recruiting as it is about positive

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recruiting. And I'm sure that they're
you know, people are saying, well,

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you know Caitlin Night. You know, she she's one of Kendrea's players,

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but that doesn't necessarily mean she can
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that's how it works. Yeah,
let me ask you, how has the

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m the season for both both teams
affected the visitors to the site or maybe

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the visceral two of the site.
What do you mean by that? Maybe

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the poor the people who we always
have the NASA is saying whatever they say.

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I see it on Facebook and just
you know, pissed off about what's

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going on. I'm sure you get
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yeah, I mean, I mean
we get that in all the sports.

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It's the experts are always around when
things are not going well. We saw

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that a lot with Tommy Lloyd.
The number of people this spring who believe

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that he can't recruit and coming up
with what he should be doing and all

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that. When I mean it's it's
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see any activity. And then right
after that they get a transfer from Alabama.

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So yeah, I mean my mentions
and the sites mentions are constantly on

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the baseball side filled with they should
not have hired Chapel blah blah blah and

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going all about that, and it's
way too early to make those kind of

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decisions. Baseball is so weird that, I mean, you have kids that

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have committed as high school freshmen for
baseball. They can't actually beat in person

407
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:18.960
contacted by a coach until their junior
year, but through intermediaries and all that,

408
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.559
they commit super early, so a
staff, a new staff comes in

409
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:29.759
and they essentially have to grab what's
available those first two years. The class

410
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:34.160
that is that signed in November for
next year and the class that signs this

411
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.839
November for twenty five are the first
ones that you can really start to be

412
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like, Okay, they had a
chance to analyze and see what kind of

413
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.200
players are out there. And the
incoming class for Arizona that signed in November

414
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.400
has a kid, a pitcher,
named Blake Walters, who may be a

415
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.839
first or second round pick, which
is also part of the baseball vernacular in

416
00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.279
that you can recruit really well,
but that may that you picked up guys

417
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.079
that the pros want and then they're
going to offer them a large amount of

418
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.920
money when they're drafted a high school
and it's hard to get them to hold

419
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.839
off. So do you want someone
to be a really good recruiter who loses

420
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all those players or do you want
somebody who brings them guys that the pros

421
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.799
don't want yet? Yeah, So
when you when you've seen chip Hale,

422
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.279
what you know, what how's your
approaches? You know there was that well

423
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.319
back where people were upset because he
wasn't fiery enough, and then you know,

424
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.319
you get two fiery and people think
you're too fiery and you're losing your

425
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.160
you know, you're losing your mind. I mean, how's he appeared to

426
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.480
be handling? You know, what's
going on with this team this year?

427
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.559
Well, it's kind of ironic just
right after that series where you're referring to

428
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.519
getting swept at Asu, right,
and he didn't seem like he was tarrying

429
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.119
into players and all that. The
next game at home against Grand Canyon.

430
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.519
He got ejected in the middle of
the game and lost his mind more or

431
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:53.519
less just in a consit the situation
and stayed out on the field for a

432
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.880
while, and they resulted in the
two game suspension, and his absence may

433
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.920
have contribute it to at least one
of those losses, because it was a

434
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.440
game they led to nothing and then
lost thirteen eleven. His ability to make

435
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.000
certain moves might have changed stuff.
So you know, sometimes you got to

436
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.920
be careful what you ask for.
And that I mean anybody who has ever

437
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.400
met Chip Hall and has ever been
around him to think he doesn't care about

438
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:23.400
this program is completely foolish, And
I mean not everybody has to be a

439
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.880
guy that that screams at you and
attacks you and all that. Like someone

440
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.880
like I'll go back to Tommy Lloyd. He is like that privately, but

441
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.519
he is not a public tear down
his players, right. He is great

442
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.400
constructive criticism in front of them to
them, but he's not going to throw

443
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.599
them under the bus publicly or do
it in sight of other people, because

444
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.559
that's that's just not the message he
wants to say. I just think that's

445
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.000
it's shortsighted. I no, I
agree with you. Well, you know,

446
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.960
sports fans are a bunch of psychologists
my heart. Hey, so unless

447
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.720
you talked about it, you brought
it up the all recruiting. What do

448
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:07.400
you get from that so far?
I mean, there haven't been much,

449
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.319
but I'm certain that there is stuff
coming down the pipeline. I wouldn't be

450
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:18.319
surprised to see a couple of international
players come around here shortly. These could

451
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:23.640
be guys that are in the going
to the draft process that once they've withdrawn

452
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.759
from that, decide to commit to
Arizona. I mean Arizona is looking at

453
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.160
their very interested in the transfer from
San Diego State, who's going through the

454
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.359
draft process, so he has till
the end of the month to withdraw.

455
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:41.440
I don't have any concern that when
the summer is over and it's time for

456
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.000
the team to get together that they're
not going to have a good ten eleven

457
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.880
players that are going to be strongly
contributing to that. But the key is

458
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.480
is that it's the seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth guys this year

459
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.680
need to be more involved. And
if that's going to be a combination of

460
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:03.400
the returning young guys or of his
teaching in and Andry Visaar, Dylan Anderson,

461
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.240
those guys, but also who they
add so that you have a blend,

462
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.720
so that it isn't a situation where
you're so reliant on seven players that

463
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.599
if one of them is struggling or
something that you don't really have anybody to

464
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.319
go to. Well that and that
was you know, that was such an

465
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.400
issue last year, and you know
it did. I still think it's people

466
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.440
who feel that that kind of piled
up on them at the end and that

467
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.400
they're you know, maybe you out
of gas when they got beat by Princeton,

468
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.440
But you know, you're right,
I mean you got I think you

469
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.240
got to go eight deep and maybe
ninth. You know, a ninth that

470
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.720
you need once in a while if
you have foul trouble or something like that.

471
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:45.400
And he's got what eight guys right
now? Uh so yeah, eight

472
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.759
or nine? I mean, Tella
Larson's gonna come back. I don't see

473
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.359
how he would leave. Um,
there's a tiny, tiny chance that the

474
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.759
Julist would come back, but I
don't expect that to be so I think

475
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.160
with Tella, you have eight or
not. I think you might have nine.

476
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.640
But you, then he's not gonna
He probably won't use all thirteen scholarships.

477
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.720
I mean, there's no point in
using them just to use them,

478
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:15.599
especially in this day and age with
how guys transfer so much. So I

479
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:22.200
expect one or two international players and
at least one more trans And finally we

480
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.359
have like two minutes. I don't
know if you want to talk about this.

481
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.720
I was here Thursday from a last
day the news had just broke about

482
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:36.079
Dolora. Any thoughts on him and
his situation, Well, I mean from

483
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.000
everything I've looked at, with the
court documents and everything and all that,

484
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.759
there's still a lot of uncertainty in
my opinion, in that the allegations against

485
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:55.480
him and the player from Wisconsin only
exists via the civil complaints, including mentions

486
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:01.559
of charges and a guilty plea and
a lack of a sentence and apology letters

487
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:06.799
and all this kind of stuff,
and that it was in juvenile and that

488
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.920
it was sealed and all that that
we have to kind of take as gospel

489
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.640
from a document that is meant to
be incendiary when you are filing a civil

490
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.599
complaint. I'm not saying that any
that it's untrue. It's just it hasn't

491
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:27.799
insubstantiated. So there's there's just so
much that the public doesn't know beyond insinuations.

492
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:32.240
And I would have to hope that
when Arizona learned about this last year,

493
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.720
they try to get as much information
as they could, like from the

494
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.039
families, which I'm sure that the
lawyer's family, if there is more out

495
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.559
there in terms of documents, that
they have access to it, and that

496
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:50.319
they used all that to make their
decision. If they were if they decided

497
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.839
back then that they're going to keep
them, they had I think they had

498
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.480
to keep them now because you don't
get rid of somebody just because everyone else

499
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.119
found out about what you knew about
a year. That just looks like like,

500
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.359
oh, we we were hoping nobody
would find out, and now that

501
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.960
you have, we have to let
you go. That that actually makes,

502
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.400
in my opinion, the school look
worse. I've heard a lot of I've

503
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.639
heard a lot of people say that
that, you know, if they were

504
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.320
going to do something, they should
have done it what they knew about it

505
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.559
when they found out about it,
And yet you really care whatever they just

506
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.360
whatever information they had to make that
decision, then you can criticize that all

507
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:30.119
you want, But I don't think
that you can do that now because nothing

508
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.559
new has come up other than a
document saying that they have gone to mediation

509
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.320
and that there's been a settlement reached
hasn't been approved by the court, but

510
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:43.480
that there's some sort of a settlement
reach. Some people can insinuate that and

511
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.719
infur that that means further admission of
guilt or whatnot. But again that is

512
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.440
assumptions and all of that. Yeah, okay, Brian, as usual,

513
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.079
thank you very much. Yep,
thanks for having me. Guy appreciated.

514
00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:01.920
Peterson from Go Easy does at Hazy
Desserts as he does from dot com gold

515
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and find out everything you want about
Arizona. They have everything. I mean,

516
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.639
it's a man got a good question
about you know, how is that?

517
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.400
What? How bad things are in
the in the spring sports? How's

518
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.960
that affecting? You know? Their
business people like to come and read about

519
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.840
the goods. Sure right, sure, and then when when when it goes

520
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.239
bad, no, man, they
come out of the wood. I'm an

521
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.559
example of that. When Arizona win
some basketball and my stories get lunked lots

522
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.440
of likes. When they lose,
I get like two or three, get

523
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:30.440
two or three, and that's when
I'm at my best because I'm more critical.

524
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.880
You know what I'm saying. You
know, you know, I know

525
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.480
exactly what you're saying. You're a
bigger butt than you are when they win.

526
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.079
Kind of, but you know,
like that, is that what you

527
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.000
meant? Kind of? All right, let's say, let's take our break

528
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and we'll be back and we'll take
your calls five to zero, four ward,

529
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Anything I want to talk about,

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579
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.719
Good to be back in the seat. Um. The Golden State disappointed me

580
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:30.360
yesterday. They disappointed me. The
disappointed themselves. They had that game one

581
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.000
and then lost, Yes they did. They butchered it a little bit.

582
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.480
Yeah, it was a bad performance. Stuff worth quarter. Have you've been

583
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:43.559
getting beat up on the No?
No, because as I won my trifect

584
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.599
my three teamer last week, so
that was fine. And then I just

585
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.039
said, okay, you know the
Warriors can't lose yesterday, couldn't They can't

586
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.320
lose Monday. Well, I got
beat up in the Kentucky Derby, so

587
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.119
I haven't done any gambling. What
did you go with the Japanese horse?

588
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.440
Yeah, yeah, so did I, but I included it with their course

589
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.119
except for the dawn, the one
that finish we had. Well, we

590
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.559
end up with five horses as well. You didn't when you didn't put the

591
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.800
eight, didn't put the so I
called I think you get because I texted

592
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:15.639
Richard they when Forte was When the
Forte was scratched, fourte was one of

593
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.440
my favorites, right, I would
have picked him. So he got scratched.

594
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.639
I needed another horse, and I
says, what do you see that

595
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.920
would fit in? And he said
that one, He said the eight,

596
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.000
he said may. I said,
okay, then I'll put him in.

597
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:30.480
And you didn't text me with that
information. You're on you're boy. So

598
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.800
I put him in, but I
didn't And then I talked to d early

599
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.760
in the morning, said what did
she ask me? Who do you like?

600
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.239
I said, well, I'm gonna
bet the Japanese horse now the forties

601
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.480
gun. And she says, why, I like a pete whatever his name

602
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.239
is? The three? The three? Uh yeah, the three? And

603
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.440
I said, oh, okay,
cool, whatever it was, and I

604
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.280
fin a second had idn't put it
in And I didn't put it in because

605
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.039
I didn't remember. I just didn't
remember. So we had a conversation either

606
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.599
last or today, and she said, she said, my horses. Oh,

607
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:04.039
that's that's right. Why did I
well? About as we said,

608
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.480
about about ten seconds into the race, we knew we were done because you

609
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.360
didn't get out of the gate.
Yeah, nobody got out of the gate.

610
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.519
The only horse of our five that
we had was was six, who

611
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.639
came at third. Yeah, so
I had that horse, and then then

612
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.719
heap in his fifth, I think
of the Japanese horse fifth. So I

613
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:22.880
had it. I was all around
it, and I had everything except that

614
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.119
damn three. And here's the worst
part about it. See if I didn't

615
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.599
even get to see it on my
big screen. So you were alone.

616
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.119
I had to I had to go
to the Sugar Skulls game. I got

617
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.159
there early so that I wouldn't be
walking in as the race was going on.

618
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.599
I race in there, put on
my iPad, watched the race,

619
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.800
and it was like it was terrible. Yeah, I never had a shot.

620
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.639
Yeah, I know. It was
not I was. It was not

621
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.199
traumatic. It was not to it
was. So I was watching Vegas and

622
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.960
I was like, oh, okay, looky, I hit the race before

623
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.800
that. But it was just not
the script. It was fun. It

624
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.719
was fun. Though it was fun. I still had fun and actually was

625
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.719
I was doing you know, races
all day, you know that you do.

626
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.960
The card was not very good because
Richard if that means Richard didn't do

627
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.800
right, he didn't he did not
do race before. Well, okay,

628
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.400
so we yeah, we hit the
race. Here here's what I ended,

629
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:14.599
just like it always happens. So
it was just one race that you know,

630
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.280
he had been missing Missy, missmiss
and so we had these He saw

631
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.440
his horse, I said, no, the guys on NBC picked a different

632
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.800
horse. So we went with that
horse and Riches, one Richard horses,

633
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.679
came in and we would hit it
for on a sixth dollar bed, would

634
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.719
he hit like forty bucks? And
yeah, it would be it would have

635
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.400
been nice odds. And then we
went back and took his horses and hit

636
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.719
eleven bucks on the six dollar bed
and that was it. So I missed

637
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.400
all but that one race. It
was bad. In fact, what reminds

638
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.719
me I got to collect from the
guys that I was that we were all

639
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.360
betting to get on this. I
gotta get my money back. It's funny.

640
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.679
It was funny. I'm sure they
had a good time at Orto Park,

641
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.079
Rito Parito Park. It was funny, you know, and I still

642
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.840
love it. I mean, look, I don't bet so much that I

643
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.639
get to the end of the day
and feel bad about what I've lost.

644
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.880
You know, I lost you know, maybe forty or the day or something.

645
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:07.280
Not a big deal. No,
no, no, And if he

646
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.039
would have come in eight it was
t was eight to one sex to one

647
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.000
year paying I don't know, sixteen
dollars. That's a one hundred and sixty

648
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.440
bucks. Yeah, I would have
been happy. Yeah anyway, Okay,

649
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.039
but yeah, no, it's a
fun day. It's a it was a

650
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.320
fun day. It really is.
It really is. You know, we

651
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.320
gotta get bad for it in there
because we just always better. Well,

652
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.159
he's got he'll be back for the
piblical because he was suspended in at the

653
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.519
so he gets the race that if
he if he gets his horses back yet,

654
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.920
he'll help us, all right,
you know. And and that's what

655
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.840
and that a thing. You know, we were betting on pleasure right right,

656
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.480
and he had just won the previous
previous race. I think that's how

657
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.079
I hit it with him. And
he's had a great year. I mean,

658
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.440
he's had a fantastic year. Yeah, we're gonna get him on eventually.

659
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.360
I have the connection who you you
know, Halligan Halligan. I saw

660
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.599
him in um in Vegas and he
said he'd get come on, we just

661
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:02.440
got the funere did you go watch
them? M I posted something out mgm

662
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.519
Okay, that's right, you're right. You can see that right the mgm

663
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.440
uh because close by, close by
and family had a lot of time with

664
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:15.320
their dinner. We'll kind of watch
the races a birthday weekend soon. They

665
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.519
came from all around, you know. I try to make it a national

666
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.440
holiday. They said, No,
I mean their family holiday. No,

667
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:23.880
it's nice that they come and see. Yes, they still love me.

668
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.400
I'm still I love you. I'm
still painting the ast to them. But

669
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.840
they love me. Well, you're
paying asked me too, But I love

670
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.679
you too. Am I not consistent? You are, George, there's no

671
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.360
doubt, no doubt. Gotta call
we gotta call it, okay before we

672
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:42.199
lose them all. You're on the
air and I on the ball. How's

673
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.880
it going today? What's up,
Brian? Wow? Just Uh? I

674
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.159
was at the baseball I was at
the baseball games over the weekend. Uh.

675
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.519
A little disappointing, but you know, just the way it is.

676
00:44:53.639 --> 00:45:00.239
We don't have any pitching, and
uh that's basically our problem with our game.

677
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.960
So you know they're Brian, you
know they're they're not any good,

678
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.599
right. I don't know if that's
too strong, that's too strong, But

679
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.360
do you know they're not any good? And you still go? Well?

680
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.320
An good? So but you still
go? Great, but you still going

681
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.119
okay wait, wait, so you
can but you still go because you enjoy

682
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.519
the game or you still want to
support the game. Okay, okay,

683
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:29.079
yeah, I grown a back almost
every baseball game. Wow. Okay,

684
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.639
So so what do you mean said? I want to say? Though?

685
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:37.880
I did finish your book, yes, and I did enjoy it very much,

686
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.039
thank you. One thing I would
I did. I did like the

687
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:49.199
McClellin article chapter who which one mccle
Oh, yes, yes, yes,

688
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.559
yes, everybody has a favorite chapter. And that was the first year,

689
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.360
the first to say about his because
of the closeness they have. Well,

690
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.000
and people are in to realize,
you know, and you know, I

691
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.559
forgot that his dad had passed.
Yes, and at that time, uh,

692
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.559
Lute was willing to just say,
hey, I'll give you your transfer,

693
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.719
no problems. I understand family,
you know, and that comes first,

694
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.079
and uh, you know, and
a lot of coaches, you know,

695
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.880
probably would have given him a release
right away. But to go through

696
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:22.320
what Lute would have done, a
petition to NCAA to have him play immediately.

697
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.840
Not many coaches would have done that, right right. Well, then

698
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.119
Juan said, you know, his
dad would have not have wanted him to

699
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.480
leave. He would have want him
to stick it out. So he stayed,

700
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.159
right. It was, It was, it was. And also one

701
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.639
other thing, I would have liked
this scene you do, you know,

702
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.079
because you had on the last uh
you had Todd Walsh is the last one.

703
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.639
Yeah, and that was that was
very good. I would have liked

704
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.639
the scene you do the last chapter. Oh yeah, no, no one

705
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.440
needs to hear my story. Already
heard my story. I mean Okay,

706
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.400
you were You were a writer on
the basketball for over seventeen years. Yeah,

707
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.119
yeah, if you, if you, and I'm sure you had some

708
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.320
great stories. No, I did, in fact, in fact great memories.

709
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.079
So Brian I in fact, I've
written a number of columns about him.

710
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:10.119
But when he passed, I wrote, I reprinted the one I did

711
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.639
when he retired, and then I
did my own column when he passed.

712
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:16.599
So if you didn't see that,
it's kind of like the same chapter.

713
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.199
I asked the publisher that I can
do that. He says no, because

714
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.440
my introduction there was a lot like
that where where I took you here,

715
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.800
you've heard this a thousand times.
Where one day in nineteen nineteen ninety,

716
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.639
I think I was running my first
book, and I said, do you

717
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.199
have time? Do you have time
to go walk with me? Or do

718
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.159
you have time for me? I
need to do another book. He says,

719
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.119
yeah, but you need to go
walk with me. And I said,

720
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.920
okay, sure, I think he
took me on this five mile crazy

721
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.800
walk with him about where he lives. He kicked the crap out of me.

722
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.199
The next day, I could not
get out of bed. I could

723
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.000
not get out of bed, and
he's thirty years old. Well that was

724
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.320
kind of funny, guys. Basically
when Whiteman also said about going on those

725
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:59.400
walks, yes, yes, yes, crazy, crazy time for people who

726
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.639
want to get him a different kind
of insight into Luke read the book.

727
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.119
Yeah, thank you, I appreciate
it. Thank you very much. It

728
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:07.639
was very good. Yeah, thank
you, I appreciate it. Brand thanks,

729
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.960
oh batch man. I appreciate the
call as always. Okay, let

730
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.440
see you later, Jay, because
we've talked about the book a lot.

731
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.159
But I think you got a sense
of how they feel about him through um

732
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.239
through Umu, Harvey Mason, right
right, because they all had that special

733
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.400
and you feel like each one of
them had a kind of a different relationship

734
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.079
with him, right, no question, each one of them. You know,

735
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.880
some got really close to him,
Some didn't. You know what I'm

736
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.159
saying, Yes, because Luke was
not a touchy feely du He wasn't.

737
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.320
You don't. In fact, in
part of Steve's Stevens and I wanted to

738
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.800
talk to this with Huggins Coggins sixty
nine, Lute was about that age just

739
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.960
when he finished like it's seventy two, I think it was, And I

740
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.800
talked to Steve about he says,
well, he wasn't a touchy feely guy.

741
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.960
He didn't get emotional with the guys. That was a generational thing,

742
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.360
right. And now that you now, and I said, what a great

743
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.519
phrase, because those days they didn't
do that, right, They didn't do

744
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.320
that. They did not It was
a tough right, it was, and

745
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.559
it was it was a business like
relationship, right you know. And and

746
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.440
I mean just look, I was
a beat writer for two years, so

747
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.920
not even very long, but it
was easy to see all of that.

748
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:21.840
You saw where the relationships were.
You know, you knew the the that

749
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.400
that eighty eight team was great because
of Ricky Bird's song and Kevin O'Neill.

750
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.679
You know, they they they they
held the players together. Tony mc andrews

751
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:36.360
was was was a nice you know, strategists more more sort of on the

752
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.920
loot side of the line, you
know, more old swords basketball related.

753
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.719
But you knew that that Bird song
and and and O'Neill were the guys that

754
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.920
were keeping the players, uh,
you know when they were having a tough

755
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.800
time with Blue, they were the
ones that were kind of getting them through

756
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.400
those things. And you know better
than me because you or we know the

757
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.000
same that you need that buffer and
those were the look and he had Rocks

758
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.519
for all those years that between guy. If there was an issue, you

759
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.280
go to Rod's first. If you
couldn't solve it, you to loot and

760
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:07.880
it really would to Lootenant. Yeah, you didn't have to because you had

761
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.239
a great guy like Rod. Right, And then that's what you know.

762
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:15.199
That's and again when you have all
those pieces like that, that's how those

763
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.840
things happen. You know, that's
how it happens because and it's it's those

764
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:23.079
it's those uh, programs or administrations
that don't have all those pieces. Maybe

765
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:28.679
coaches don't get along, or coaches
don't get along with players, egos get

766
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:32.000
in the way player you know,
players are you know, difficult to work

767
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.000
with. Whatever, all that has
to mesh together. And the teams that

768
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.360
become champions are the teams that everything
massed together. Have you ever heard of

769
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.960
a team that won a championship that
didn't say, man, we just all

770
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.000
loved each other in the locker round, no question. You never heard of

771
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.559
CC. Yeah we won a championship, but we hated each other. You've

772
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.239
never heard that. I'll give you
twenty seventeen. What do you think that

773
00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.519
was? Yeah, exactly. They
didn't like each other. They all wanted

774
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.440
theirs and that guy was the way
of me getting mine right, right,

775
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.800
and then boom there you go.
Absolutely, And that's not to say that

776
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.719
every team that doesn't do as expected
is in a bad situation like that,

777
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:14.639
because there's some team, you know, the the eighty nine team. Those

778
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.800
guys were, you know, yeah
saying it was pretty much the same thing.

779
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.239
Just current Toilburn McMillan were gone.
We had you know, Lofton and

780
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.559
and and Anthony Cook, and that
team loved each other and that team got

781
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.400
run to bad luck and they just
yeah, they just got you know,

782
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.119
they they a team came out at
him, got stayed in the game and

783
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.679
then hit a shot that won the
game. If that team, if that

784
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.559
team beats UNLV, they probably win
the national champ They were on their way,

785
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.159
right, Yeah, there and so
many others you can say, right,

786
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.960
I want to govern another final,
right, yeah, I remember that.

787
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.960
Well, Sean was the player of
the year though, yea, yeah

788
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.400
he was, and deservedly so.
He should have been player of the Year.

789
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:52.280
I kind of try to give him
on I'm trying to give him on.

790
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:57.079
I'm gonna get a shot off because
he's the Spurs aren't doing anything.

791
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.239
You should have doing it. I'm
not in the phrase it that way.

792
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.320
Shot you got nothing to do,
Come on the show. By the show,

793
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.880
I'll see if we can kind of
fight the dude's directors. Still,

794
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:12.599
it's tough to fight he is.
Yeah, but but but it's true.

795
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.440
I mean, that's the way it
is. All Right, we're gonna take

796
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:16.800
our break. I think we got
our music for yeah, we do.

797
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.639
All right, we're gonna take our
break top of the hour. We got

798
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.519
breaking news and there's all kinds of
stuff, so be sure to come back

799
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.239
and then we'll take your call as
also five two zero four one six seventy

800
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:29.519
four four Good lo