1 00:00:03,799 --> 00:00:13,439 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,120 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, that's 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,800 a step hit on stay lot Gosh. Here's your hosts, Jesse souvi Here 4 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:28,800 and Victor Nuno Hockey Live Back Once a Kid Jennis Deer of fan Tracks, 5 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:35,520 joining my friend, my colleague, my tag team partner, Victor Nuno of 6 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:40,719 Dabbert Prospects and an EP ringside. Victor, how you doing today? I'm 7 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:44,920 doing great, Jesse. It's a super exciting team to talk about and I'm 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,759 definitely looking forward to it. How you doing, I'm doing good. I'm 9 00:00:48,759 --> 00:00:53,119 doing good. Yeah, it is a glorious fall day. By the time 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,439 you hear this, hopefully it will remain glorious because we're recording a bit in 11 00:00:56,479 --> 00:01:00,159 advance. But nonetheless, I'm ready to talk some Wild. This is for 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:07,439 some reason, Victor. I live in Milwaukee, and the NHL believes that 13 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,480 I should be blacked out from watching Wild games because somehow I'm in the Greater 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,719 Minneapolis metropolitan area. From the perspective of the regional sport networks, Victor, 15 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,480 this is insane. Yeah, it isn't say how they black you out like 16 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:26,359 that. There's very large blackout regions, but there are other ways to watch 17 00:01:26,359 --> 00:01:30,239 if you if you're into that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, it's 18 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,280 just weird. So I catch a little less Minnesottle wild than I would like. 19 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,799 But yeah, perhaps it's time for me to put on the black hat 20 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,879 and cape and go incognito and get some wild games next year. Anyway, 21 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:46,519 I don't need to put all this on a recorded podcast that goes out to 22 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,439 five people who listen to it. 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Fantasy Hockeylife dot com 50 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,319 is that website. Patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey Life to support the show. 51 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:59,319 Very good, It's time to get wild. Right after this, we 52 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:01,840 liked to well, welcome to the show, Dylan Loucks of the Hockey News. 53 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:04,080 We're ready to talk to some Minnesota Wild. How you doing today, 54 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,599 Dylan, I'm pretty good. How about yourself? Good? We're warmed up. 55 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,879 We're ready to go. We can talk some Minnesota Wild today from the 56 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,759 land of ten Thousand Lakes, Dylan. The Wild had a pretty nice year. 57 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:23,319 It looked a lot like the prior to like sixty some percent points percentage 58 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:27,759 first round playoff loss. The fans at the Axcel Energy Center saw fewer of 59 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:31,120 those flashing red lights because the goals really dropped. Fifth highest in the NHL 60 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:35,600 three hundred and five the year before last year twenty third place two hundred and 61 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:41,800 thirty nine goals. On the other hand, they got better defensively thirty fewer 62 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:46,519 goals against from two forty nine down to two nineteen, and that came from 63 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,279 perhaps a surprising climb from seventeenth highest say percentage to the third best in the 64 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:55,240 NHL. For those entertained by the fifth to cups, the Wild saw the 65 00:04:55,319 --> 00:04:59,959 second most major penalties four and against. Is this team stuck in this zone 66 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,519 one of sort of first round playoff exit or is there a way that they 67 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:08,480 could climb here from cup to cup contention? Yeah, I think like you 68 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,759 said. A year before one of their best seasons in franchise history. They 69 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,680 had over one hundred points fifty odd some wins, and then last year they 70 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,839 had another great year. They lost Fiala, who provided a big spark for 71 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:24,160 them at over eighty points. It was a thirty goal scorer, helped their 72 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,480 secondary scoring, and then they replaced them with just like depth around on every 73 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,839 line, there was at least a couple of guys who could put the puck 74 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,720 in the net on each line. They got better goaltending. But if you 75 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,040 look at the Central Division this year, like the Stars got better, in 76 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,439 my eyes, the Coyotes got better. You can even say their Predators or 77 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,759 the Jets did so, It's hard to think. With the Wild not doing 78 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,399 much, they only brought in pat marooned and lost all their guys that they 79 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:54,720 acquired at the deadline last year, it's hard for me to think that they 80 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:59,800 can be that good again. They'll probably finish third or fourth in the central 81 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,360 round there, so they'll probably make it into the playoffs, But in terms 82 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:06,439 of getting past getting over the hump, getting past that first round things like 83 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,720 that, it's hard for me to see it happen that way. Unless they're 84 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,360 getting a ton of contributions from some of their younger guys that they're probably expecting 85 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:19,519 to make that jump. But in terms of going all the way or the 86 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,959 conference final, I guess it. I don't think they're there yet. If 87 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,959 they do get there, it will likely be due to the contributions of Carrill 88 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,160 capriz Off, superstar NHL player. On March eighth, the big thing happened. 89 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:39,560 Logan Stanley climbed on the back of Krill the Thrill and squished him into 90 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,199 the ice. He did very involuntary splits and missed fifteen games. Basically. 91 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,959 The rest of the regular season came back for the playoffs, but was a 92 00:06:48,079 --> 00:06:51,680 very quiet, not quite himself. He only scored one goal, Noah says, 93 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:57,720 in a six game series loss. It's objectively unreasonable for me to be 94 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,639 disappointed by a guy who scored forty goals and seventy five points last year in 95 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,040 sixty seven regular season contests, with close to four shots and a hit. 96 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,480 But it was such a big step back from that one hundred and eight point 97 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,319 season the year before. Caill played two more minutes a night last year than 98 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,279 the year before. He's the start of the team, one of the most 99 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:21,079 exciting players in the league, and I being too harsh to say last year 100 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,800 didn't live up to Caprizov's standard. And do you think his game could hit 101 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:31,959 a higher level this year? Yeah, I definitely think so. Like last 102 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,759 year, it seemed like he was on pace to be a fifty goal scorer 103 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,480 and duplicate that one hundred point season he put up before, and then he 104 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:43,600 got hurt. That big Stanley injury kind of put him out for a while, 105 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,439 and even in the playoffs he was back, but he wasn't necessarily healthy. 106 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,920 You saw that he scored the opening goal in Game one and then was 107 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,920 just dry the rest of the playoffs. That is due to kind of him 108 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,519 still playing through that injury. But in my eyes, if he can stay 109 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 fully healthy this year, play around that seventy five game mark, seventy six, 110 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,399 seventy seven, whatever it is, I definitely think he can be that 111 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,959 fifty goal score, one hundred point guy because he was tracking like that last 112 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,120 year, and obviously he was one hundred point guy the year before that, 113 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,480 so I feel like it would be easy for me to say that he could 114 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,399 definitely hit that mark. If he stays healthy, that would be probably the 115 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,600 biggest question mark. Well, if he does, Mont Zucarello will be there 116 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 by his side. The thirty six year old Norwegian just keeps on going. 117 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,960 In fact, last year's twenty twelve average time on ice marked a career high 118 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 for Zucarillo. He notched twenty two goals, forty five assists, sixty seven 119 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,360 points, and seventy eight games two and a half shots per game, as 120 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,639 well second place in team scoring. He was also second on the team in 121 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,759 power play time on ice. He and Caprizof remained locked at the hip out 122 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,519 on the ice, and they were centered by a succession of guys including Freddie 123 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:00,159 Goodreau, Sam Steele, and then Ryan Hartman. Hidden under the hood, 124 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,240 some of Zuch's advanced stats slipped a bit last year. If you look at 125 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:09,840 a catch all like evolving Hockey's expected standings point above replacement, it was still 126 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,120 positive, but it was the lowest of his career and a big drop from 127 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:18,440 that magical season before. Is the team counting on Zucarello to keep up the 128 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,720 pace that he did two years ago or even last year, or do you 129 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,960 think the cracks are starting to show? What do you think we'll see from 130 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:30,279 Zukarrella this year? I think a little of both. Like last year, 131 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,039 obviously he was pretty good, and then it seemed when Caprizaf got hurt, 132 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:39,360 he wasn't really the same. And then in the playoffs, I think Zucarello, 133 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,639 even though he had a lot of points and he led the team in 134 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:46,639 that category in the postseason, I don't think he had the best playoffs and 135 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,120 I think towards the end of the season you could see a little bit of 136 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:54,360 regression. Being thirty six right now, I don't think it's hard to say 137 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,080 that he probably will take a dip in points this year. I don't necessarily 138 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,720 think he's a seventy point guy anymore, I guess probably the fifty point range, 139 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:05,519 sixty point range. I think he could still put up fifty points, 140 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,080 especially if he's playing with capriz Off, because we've seen that before, ever 141 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,320 since Carrill came to Minnesota, that Sucarella and him have had this instant connection 142 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,120 where they can find each other at any given point, and we've seen how 143 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,759 effective that can be in terms of both of them putting up points. So 144 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:28,159 it's definitely fair to say that he can still reach that fifty point mark if 145 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,159 he stays relatively healthy. But I do think there will be some kind of 146 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,960 regression from him this year. Although he is in the final year of his 147 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:39,519 contract, that could help him boost some confidence things like that, wanting to 148 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,200 put up more points just because he is in that final year of his contract, 149 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:48,440 But they'll probably be a little bit of regression for him. And let's 150 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,120 talk about Matt Boldy, one of my personal favorites. Boldy, it may 151 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:54,559 have seemed like a bit of a step back this past season. He went 152 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,960 from a sixty eight to sixty four point pace, but if you look under 153 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,399 the hood a little, he had worst offensive zone starts, more time on 154 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,960 ice a little bit more defensive responsibility, and his luck metrics went down a 155 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,960 little bit. His PDO and shooting percentage were a little bit lower than previously, 156 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,559 but he's still had thirty one goals, thirty two assists, and decent 157 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:18,080 number of hits, blocks and shots. He was sixty fourth at his position 158 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,360 for BASH seven years left at seven million. I think that contract is going 159 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,480 to age very well, so for those of us in cap leagues, it 160 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,639 may hurt a little in the first year or two, but it's gonna be 161 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:31,679 good after that. And the rest of his underlyings looked really good too. 162 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:35,360 Is this very strong all around player and Dylan, I feel like there's another 163 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:37,759 step potentially coming for Boldy here. Do you like him for more than a 164 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,440 seventy point pace moving forward? Yeah, I definitely think so. I feel 165 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,639 like last year when Caprizof went out with an injury, Boldy was the guy 166 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:52,200 that they needed to rely on, and it made sense. Boldy struggled though 167 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,519 to start the season, and he struggled a little bit years prior. I 168 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,960 know he came in but only played like the remaining forties games of the season, 169 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,279 But once he found his connection that was with Fialla but this year it 170 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,320 seemed once they acquired Marcus Johansson, that line took off. It was Johansson, 171 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,679 Boldy and Eck and it was like the last nineteen games of the regular 172 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,679 season, Bold he had fifteen goals and he finished the season with a hair 173 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:22,240 over thirty. So if you look at it like that, he was really 174 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,240 hot in terms of finishing the season, which makes me believe that he can 175 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,600 carry that into next season. He's definitely probably gonna hit that thirty goal mark 176 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,120 again, obviously if he stays healthy. But like you said, I do 177 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,799 see him as a guy that has potential to put up those seventy points and 178 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:43,200 definitely he can get a bunch of those on the power Play. New power 179 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,799 play coach this year, so maybe that helps him as well. But he 180 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,159 will probably get some more time with capriz Off every now and then, which 181 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,919 obviously will spike his points up too. So seventy points for BOLDI probably in 182 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,440 the horizon, and yeah, it could happen next year well. Joel Ericson 183 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,840 Eck already mentioned he's going into his third year of a very respectable eight by 184 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,519 five and a quarter million dollar contract, technically the first contract signed by Bill 185 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Garrant. In his term in Minnesota, he achieved a new personal high and 186 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,320 scoring last year sixty one points and seventy eight games. He was a power 187 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,759 play one player, third on the team, and power play time on ice 188 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:26,759 just over three shots a game, just under two hits a game, And 189 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,639 for the third straight year he got Silky votes and was third on the team 190 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:35,039 in Evolving Hockey standing points above replacement. That nice catch all stat. I 191 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:41,639 thought of je as primarily a defensive stalwart and a shutdown guy, but sixty 192 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,399 one points is he also developing an offensive role and couldn't go any further for 193 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,679 him doing Yeah, I think he is started starting to develop that offensive role. 194 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,480 We saw a little book bit of it two years ago, and especially 195 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,600 in the playoffs against Vegas a while back, he had that clutched gene, 196 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,480 so to speak. But yeah, last year, a twenty three goal season. 197 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,279 He gets majority of his goals on the powerplay. Obviously he's a big, 198 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,360 strong defensive center, but he plays. He sticks right in front of 199 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,679 the net on power plays, plays a little bit of a bumper, redirects 200 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,799 pucks, things like that. In terms of this season, I wouldn't be 201 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:24,000 surprised if I had a twenty five goal season around sixty points. But he's 202 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,919 still gonna play that fantastic defensive style. Like he said, he'll get Selky 203 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:35,039 votes again, but his offensive continuously projecting towards to be a sixty point guy 204 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,960 in his career. I don't know if he ever touches seventy or eighty points. 205 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,879 He might touch thirty goals. It could be next year, but I 206 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:48,759 guess it counts on is he gonna get majority of those on the power play 207 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,559 like he has before. But yeah, he could be a twenty five goal 208 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:58,279 guy next year for sure. Tremendous and Ryan Hartman just a few games into 209 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,519 the season heart and apparently heard a shoulder and missed November and the majority of 210 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,639 December. After a stretch with Kudrow and Boldi, he teamed up with Caprisoft 211 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:13,879 and Zucarello until Caprizof's injury late in the season that we've talked about. In 212 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:16,000 the end, the twenty eight year old put up a decent thirty seven points 213 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,240 at fifty nine games. That was a drop from the sixty five point eighty 214 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:24,759 two games the prior year, but otherwise way over the career norms he had 215 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,879 before that, do you expect Hartman to be back with that top line again 216 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Caprisoft at Zucarello, And what are you expecting for twenty three twenty four, 217 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:39,159 something more like twenty one twenty two, or more like last year or something 218 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,600 else. I think so Hartman, it's probably a mix of both of those. 219 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:48,320 Like last year, he was pretty open and saying he was disappointed with 220 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:50,960 the way he was struggling. Obviously, two years prior he had a thirty 221 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,759 goal season, and whenever you scored thirty goals, everyone around the league he's 222 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:58,480 looking for you to duplicate that. And I think Hartman would be the first 223 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:03,279 to tell you that he did struggle, but he was a meeting that and 224 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,120 he was disappointed in that he did battle through some injuries. Obviously he was 225 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:12,519 playing with multiple different lines things like that. But I would expect that Hartman 226 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:17,639 is probably on the first line to start the season this year, which means 227 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:22,559 he would be with capriz Offen Zucarello. Again, that's if everyone's healthy coming 228 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,600 out of training camp, preseason, things like that. But with the way 229 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,840 that second line the Wild had last year, it's hard for me to imagine 230 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,320 they would break that up that being the Ec Johansson boldiline, So Hartman probably 231 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:41,879 sticks back with capriz Offen Zucarello, and then if Hartman gets hurt or Ec 232 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,120 gets hurt, whatever, you can mix and match with there and maybe move 233 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:51,000 up Rosy too. So I think Hartman probably will find himself in another top 234 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:53,960 six role this year, and if he struggles out the gate and that he 235 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,759 can move to the third line, maybe provide some scoring there as well. 236 00:16:57,799 --> 00:17:03,120 But I don't necessarily think he can be a thirty goal scorer again, but 237 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,519 he could be somewhere in between the fifteen seventeen maybe twenty range goal season. 238 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,119 And just in terms of the rest of these defenseman just a catch all here 239 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,240 pick them. But we got Marcus Johansson, we got Freddie Gudroau, Marcus 240 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:21,039 Follino. All of them have their own strengths. What do you expect? 241 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:22,920 Who do you think is going to have the best season, at least from 242 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:30,720 a scoring perspective of that tier of offensive players for this team. Yeah, 243 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,160 I think, like you said, the Felinos and the Gudreaus of the world, 244 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,920 my guess is it would probably be Freddie Gudreau. If you're talking strictly 245 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,519 like the bottom six. We saw it last year and years before that. 246 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:48,039 Dean Evison loves to use Gudreau, whether it's just down a goal with a 247 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:52,119 minute left and the third things like that. But he was one goal away 248 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,240 from a twenty goal season last year, which I guess not a lot of 249 00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:59,440 people probably expected, and he probably hovers it at that again this year, 250 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,519 maybe a fifteen goal mark, things like that, but I guess it depends 251 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:11,039 on who he plays with. Goodreau will probably start the year with Felino and 252 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,599 makes us believe that he could probably play with Marco Rossi on that line, 253 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:21,720 or maybe they move Brandon do him to that it's a third line, but 254 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:25,119 I think it's it's a hybrid third line. They can provide that defense and 255 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,039 that checking, but also they can pick up points and goals because just two 256 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,000 years ago Marcus Felino was a twenty goal scorer, so you can't necessarily count 257 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,519 him out as well, especially in a contract year two. But if I 258 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,559 were to bet on it, I would guess that Freddie Gudreau probably continues to 259 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,440 do what he's done. Great stuff on the forwards. Let's move over to 260 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,519 the blue line, and we're gonna start with Killen Addison, who was a 261 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,160 very frustrating guy at a roster in fantasy because when he was in the lineup, 262 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,519 he was very good. He often got on the top power play and 263 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,039 would semi regularly get an assist, but he didn't really do much else, 264 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,519 and then he was scratched a lot. So he ended up with three goals, 265 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:11,119 twenty six assists, and not much in the prepherrals. Just nineteen shots, 266 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,519 thirty eight blocks seventy seven or sorry, nineteen hit thirty eight block, 267 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,240 seventy seven shots, but eighteen power play points was really nice. As far 268 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,319 as I know, he's still unsigned and coming into this season, you look 269 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,839 at his underlyings. His offensive production on the power play was great, but 270 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,559 everywhere else he was a bit underwhelming. I do feel like his defensive play 271 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,279 is or his poor defensive play is a bit overblown, especially when you look 272 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:37,839 at his evolving hockey metrics, which are closer to league average, But I 273 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,279 know that's always been the rub against him. So, Dylan, what do 274 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,160 you expect from Addison this season? Is he gonna have fewer healthy scratches? 275 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Is he gonna continue to run the top power play? Can he get over 276 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,519 a forty point pace. What do you think. Yeah, I think obviously, 277 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,119 first of all, they got to get him signed and get that done. 278 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,839 But I do think that probably will happen. And in terms of the 279 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,440 look on the season, like you mentioned, last year, it was like 280 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:07,200 it was a bit of a head scratcher, right, He's putting up all 281 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,119 these points on the power play to start the season and it's okay, a 282 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,039 rookie defender taking the league by notice things like that, and then he was 283 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:18,359 just getting scratched. And I think there's a little bit of his defensive game 284 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,160 that was causing him to be out of the lineup. But I guess what 285 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,599 didn't make sense for me is come trade deadline, they made a trade and 286 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 got John Klinberg, who is arguably way worse defensively than Kaitlin Addison, and 287 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:36,039 they basically told Addison that he can't strictly be a power play specialist. So 288 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:41,519 I think this year Addison is working a lot more on developing his defensive game 289 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,720 and making sure that he can be that two way guy and make sure that 290 00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:48,119 he can be in the lineup every game this season. And I definitely think 291 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,519 he's capable of doing that. And then they're going to need him to do 292 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:56,279 that because I don't necessarily know who would run that top power play. We've 293 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:59,440 seen years before that Spurgeon can do it, but he's not going to pick 294 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:03,079 up ton of points when he's doing it. Not to say that he's not 295 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,240 the best quarterback for a power play, but Addison is probably a lot better. 296 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:11,160 So if Addison gets signed and it is done, I would expect him 297 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,640 to run the top power play until something else happens. Maybe they pick up 298 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 someone else in a trade, or maybe they trade him. But I definitely 299 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,480 think that if he's signed and a part of the team, he's probably going 300 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:29,799 to run the top power play. Jared Spurgeon actually led the team in again 301 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,599 evolving hockey's stains points above replacement. Just to pick the catch all here, 302 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,400 He's got a lot to recommend him. This guy a basic eleven goal, 303 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,799 twenty three assists, thirty four point in seventy nine game line is about in 304 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,559 line with his career average, although after points pay spike the year prior he 305 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,559 blocks two shots a game, he threw close to a hit per game, 306 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,279 shoots just under twice per game on the power play. He was well behind 307 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,839 killing Addison on the minute's chart, unlike the prior year when he was still 308 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,440 on the power play with one and he no longer skates twenty four minutes like 309 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,079 he did in his late twenties. But the captain's seven point six million dollar 310 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,440 contract that's still as four years remaining, isn't aging all that badly? Really, 311 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:15,200 is last year's pace what you expect from Spurgeon now and going board or 312 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:22,559 are there scenarios where you could see a different outcome coming next year? Yeah? 313 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,039 I think that I don't know. What he did last year is probably 314 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:29,720 what he's going to continue to do. He's, in my eyes, one 315 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:33,119 of the best defensive defenseman in the NHL, and you talked about some of 316 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,079 his analytics, it certainly backs it up. In terms of like offensive, 317 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,880 his ceiling is probably that ten to eleven goal season, and he'll probably hover 318 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,200 at around thirty to forty points. Maybe he hits fifty. That is very 319 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,119 possible, especially if he's getting all the power play time and things like that. 320 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:56,799 But in terms of I guess a fantasy offensive outlook for him, he's 321 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,480 probably a thirty to forty point guy, and he's shown that he is that 322 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,920 in previous years and it will probably continue to be that for sure, but 323 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:11,240 also provide fantastic defense. Speaking of fantastic defense, I wanted to talk about 324 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,319 one of the younger players on this team, Brock Faber, who made his 325 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,680 debut at the end of the season and then played in all six playoff games. 326 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,279 He was really good in those and even though he was just coming in 327 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:26,160 from college, He's got two years left at his entry level deal, and 328 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,119 when you look at what he provides, I think he's probably already close to 329 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,920 being one of the top four defenders on this team. Obviously, we'll have 330 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,720 to see how that works out. I don't necessarily think he's the most offensive. 331 00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:41,799 We were talking about who could run the powerplay other than Addison, I 332 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,319 guess Fabor could, although I don't think that's necessarily his strong suit. But 333 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,640 I'm just more curious what you think we can expect from him this season. 334 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,000 Any chance he gets that power play time on ice and what kind of usage 335 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,680 do you think he gets, like second paying THIRDM pairing. What do you 336 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,200 think about Rock Faber? Yeah, I definitely he's going to start the season 337 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:06,559 playing with Jonas Birdine and be that second pair, which makes me believe that 338 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,480 he's going to be Rodin's always been out there against the league's best, like 339 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:14,680 to shut down guys things like that. Without Dumba this year, brock Favor 340 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,640 is pretty much the replacement, so he's going to get probably around twenty minutes 341 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,559 a night. In terms of power play, I think he's definitely capable of 342 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,039 running a power play. I don't know if they would throw him out there 343 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:29,599 on power play one and say, Okay, this is your power play to 344 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,079 run, but if say Spurgeon was hurt or Addison, things like that, 345 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,960 I think Favor is capable of doing it. He did a little bit of 346 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,079 it at the U of M throughout his career, but he obviously was a 347 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,200 captain there and he's known of being like that two way defensive guy. He's 348 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,440 always thought of being the defensive first. And then last year for the golfers, 349 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,599 he told us that he really wanted to take a step in his offensive 350 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,160 role. He had almost thirty points, which he's never had before in his 351 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,440 career, so he definitely took a step and called knowledge in terms of offensive 352 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,960 and I think when he broke into the NHL, you could see like a 353 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:10,440 comfortable manner for him that he didn't really want to make a mistake right away, 354 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,720 so he wasn't really jumping up into the offense or things like that. 355 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,599 But I think a couple of games into the playoffs, he's showing that, 356 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,440 Okay, I can do this now, I'm not really making any mistakes. 357 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:26,200 I'm trusting myself things like that, And he was actually getting outlet passes up 358 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,559 the zone things like that, and breaking the puck out with ease, which 359 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,920 can definitely lead into offense. And Favor is really good at breaking out the 360 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,160 puck and that that could lead into picking up a few points every now and 361 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,359 then. But in terms of where he's going to play, I would guess 362 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,839 he starts the season on the second line, some penalty killed time, things 363 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,200 like that, but he's definitely like a defensive first guy. Yeah, for 364 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,920 sure, that makes sense. I love brock Favor. He's so fun to 365 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,200 watch. But let's move on to the goalies and talking wild. They gave 366 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:02,880 up the second ranked expect a goal to sixty according to a Love mccockey, 367 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,839 but conceded the fifth actual goals, so they were a little bit below when 368 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,160 you look at the underlyings for their main goalies, especially a gust Ofson He 369 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,759 was basically right in line with the protection that was offered to him Mark Kunjri. 370 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,279 Fleury was a little bit lower. They obviously have both these guys. 371 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:21,680 It seemed like Gus was taken over here. They almost played the similar number 372 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,400 of games. I feel like that's going to change this year, and Gus 373 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:29,319 seems like he's coming more into that role. He had almost sixteen goals save 374 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,039 above expected and at one point one Delta Fenwick really good underlyings there for gust 375 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:37,759 Offson, and he's got three years left at three point seven five and just 376 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,279 one more year left for Flurry. Is that how you think the split's gonna 377 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,839 go? You think Gus is taken over maybe like a sixty forty split or 378 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,759 maybe even more. Yeah, I guess to start the season, you're probably 379 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:53,599 not going to think that it's going to be a sixty forty split. Obviously, 380 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,160 Fleury's thirty eight now, so he definitely isn't really capable of starting sixty 381 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,720 games like he used to. In terms of how many Gusts of Sin will 382 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,839 start, I definitely think he'll start more games than he did last year. 383 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,599 This is a guy that people were talking about should maybe get VESNA votes. 384 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,640 And when you hear that and you only see a guy that played thirty to 385 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,119 forty games, you would expect him to get more starts. Next year, 386 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:25,599 I definitely think Guvson will probably start at least around fifty games, So whatever 387 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,839 you want to say for a split, I think it could reach a sixty 388 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,279 forty, but out the gate to start the year, they might switch off 389 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,599 like they did last year. They even tried to do it in the playoffs. 390 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,640 So it just goes to show you that I guess it isn't one hundred 391 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,359 percent, but since Gus got that contract to three year contract, it shows 392 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,880 us that they're relying on him to be that starter. But he will eventually 393 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:55,279 take the net over and definitely next year have around sixty starts. But in 394 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960 terms of this year, he'll probably be at range. I would expect to 395 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,759 be his max. I don't know if he hits sixty, but with Flory's 396 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,200 last year of his deal, I wouldn't expect that he only gets twenty starts 397 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,720 or something, so I would say around fifty for guests Ason two probably. 398 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:18,880 Yeah, that makes sense, and I think we should mention that they have 399 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,960 waiting in the wings. In my opinion, the best prospect goalie out there, 400 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:27,160 Jesper Walstead. He's one of my absolute favorites and he's been dominant. 401 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:33,279 He was in Sweden previously and in the HL this past season and he was 402 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,079 fantastic. And he's got a couple of years left on his entry level. 403 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680 He's still really young. There's no reason to rush him, as we know, 404 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,119 they have Flory for one more year, even though he's getting up there. 405 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,119 But if we waited another year, he'd be starting the season as a 406 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,559 twenty one year old, and it's pretty early, but he's also played professionally 407 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,759 for several years. What do you think the timeline is for Wallstead? I 408 00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:59,839 imagine this guy is pegged as a potential future starter, but obviously with Gusts 409 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,119 breaking out, it's a little bit complicated. It's a great problem to have 410 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,079 if they have two great goalies, but they also don't need to rush him. 411 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,880 So what do you think we should expect from Jesper? Yeah, I 412 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,839 think that's a fair question. If it was up to me, I wouldn't 413 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,880 necessarily probably even give Wallstead any games this year in the NHL. Now, 414 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,799 if both Gusts a sin and Fleury gets hurt, maybe you have to call 415 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,519 him up. But like he said, he's twenty years old right now, 416 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:32,359 and you never want to rush a goalie just because some goalies develop a lot 417 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,680 different than others. And although he might be capable of maybe playing, I 418 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,920 still wouldn't trust that, just because you never want to ruin a goalie. 419 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,519 And obviously Gus still has three years of his contract, so I think not 420 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,680 this upcoming season, but the following you'll probably see maybe a little bit of 421 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Wallstead and then that would be your three of gusts a Sin's contract. The 422 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:59,319 final year, I would expect you would see Wallstead get in maybe twenty to 423 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,160 thirty games, and at that point he would be twenty two and gufts Asen 424 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,559 would be around twenty seven, I believe, and then the Wild can make 425 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,000 a decision going forward if they want to give the full duties to Wallstead in 426 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,319 three years or maybe want to resigned guftis in and split those two up again. 427 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,519 But in terms of this season, I would expect you probably wouldn't see 428 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:25,319 wall said, unless there is an emergency basis where they needed a goalie to 429 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,559 come up. But two years from now, three years from now, he's 430 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:32,759 probably going to break in the league there when he's around twenty two, Dylan, 431 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,240 some great stuff here. How can people follow all of your coverage of 432 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,200 the Minnesota Wild this year? Yeah, I guess kind of two ways. 433 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,480 You can just go to the Hockey News dot com and follow the Minnesota Wild 434 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,440 page, and then also if you have a Twitter you can follow it there. 435 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,839 It's Dylan Lows four that's the Twitter handle. Otherwise, yeah, follow 436 00:30:53,880 --> 00:31:00,640 it on Twitter or obviously just Hockey News dot com slash Wild. Thank you 437 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:11,039 so much for being on today. Yeah, thanks for having me, Guys 438 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,359 Wilson. That's good. Fire passed off. Oh my goodness, go with 439 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:25,319 a cat quick grab, now's your wingkly goalie talk with Kats Silverman, Cat's 440 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:32,000 Instincts. Time for another edition of Kat's Instincts with Cat Silverman in goldmag Minnesota 441 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:34,079 Wild edition. And you know what that means, Cat, It's time for 442 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:41,720 one of our absolute favorites. Yesper Walstat twenty twenty one drafted and twentieth overall. 443 00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:47,519 What were the other nineteen or at least fourteen or fifteen teams thinking that 444 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,160 was really late? Six foot three, twenty and fourteen pound goalie, one 445 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,119 of my favorites to watch he had his first season in North America after being 446 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,519 in Sweden. He was really great for Lulaya, playing quite a number of 447 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:04,480 SHL games, including in his draft season, which was part of what I 448 00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:08,759 liked so much about him getting those professional shots early. He was in Iowa 449 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,680 this past season and really great thirty eight games, nine or eight save percentage 450 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,400 two point six AGA. Wasn't quite as good in the playoffs, but he 451 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,640 didn't have the biggest sample size either, And then he went to the World 452 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:24,920 Juniors and had zero point six seven GA nine forty seven save percentage in three 453 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,559 games. That was just wild for a not super strong Sweden team. I 454 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:34,839 would say so that along with looking at his underlyings his goal save or sorry, 455 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,119 his save percentage above expected and the AHL was like quite literally one of 456 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,319 the best in the league. So also impressive for such a young guy. 457 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:50,079 We when you look at his equivalences, he no joke looks like andre Vassilevski, 458 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,559 that's the caliber. He looks like Samsunoff, Barbrowski, a scar Off 459 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,680 or other guys. He looks like he just seems like he's going to be 460 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,880 a future star starting goalie. Cat What are you're in things tell us about 461 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:06,119 walst It. I love him. I can't. I can't edge dust and 462 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,720 Wolfe out of my spot as the number one goal in the HL last year 463 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:16,240 because he's a very short American and so he holds my heart. But I 464 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:22,759 think that Walstet was one of the most effective when it came to just maturity 465 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,759 level of his game, even during his draft year, watching him play the 466 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,680 decision making, not just when it came to like his safe selections, but 467 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,920 when I came to his reaction speeds to certain things, when I came to 468 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:40,000 his ability to get fooled by cross ice plays and shot trickery and even just 469 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:50,480 blade positioning, he seemed like he was operating from a place of just some 470 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,759 guys just have that hockey iq where they just seem like they read the game 471 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,480 that much faster than everyone else and know what to do with it. And 472 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:01,640 that's what he looked like. He just had that good elite decision making power 473 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:07,680 and seemed like get good control to his game. He plays like a fairly 474 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,840 stereotypical Swedish goaltender, really has a lot of good lateral movement, doesn't mind 475 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,159 playing from his knees for the game. If he needs to. But outside 476 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:23,679 of that, he also just looked like he understood when he needed to shy 477 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,519 away from his traditional style in order to make some TRICKI or saves, and 478 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,159 I think that's part of why we saw him makes such a good transition to 479 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,519 North America. It reminded me of when we would talk about igershas Sterkin before 480 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:44,199 he came over to North America. He played a game that showed that he 481 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:51,159 understood depending on the style of game that was oncoming. Adam was able to 482 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,400 adapt his repertoire of saves selections to match what was going on across the ice 483 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,920 from him. And that's something that we saw make a fairly smooth transition for 484 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,039 shous Stark, and we saw it make a good transition for Wallstet. I 485 00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:09,840 think some of the other teams in the Midwest probably could have used with drafting 486 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,599 him that year, and their decision not to is neither here nor there. 487 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,440 That's all right for them. We'll see how that goes. I think he's 488 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,639 going to be NHL already soon. But Minnesota's been doing a really good job 489 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:31,239 of not leaving. They're covered completely bare, so they have options at the 490 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,800 NHL level and don't need to rush him, which is I think fantastic. 491 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,320 Yeah, definitely, it's good to have options. It's good to not rush 492 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,159 him, but he certainly does seem like he's ready. And yeah, there 493 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:51,320 were definitely several other teams that probably feel like they could have used him by 494 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,920 now. I really thought that Edmonton was gonna take him, and I believe 495 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,840 they traded back from that spot, and I was confused by that wild choice 496 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,079 on their part. Yeah, I think they could use him now anyways. 497 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,719 So they don't need anyone else other than just for Walstet because he's so great, 498 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,639 But they do have someone else. Hunter Jones is another goalie in their 499 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,239 system, and he was the twenty nineteen second round pick by the Wild six 500 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,599 five, two hundred five pounds. He's now twenty two. He's mainly been 501 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,760 in the ECHL the past season, and part of that this past season might 502 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,480 have been to give Walstet more starts. And so he did play a significant 503 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,199 role for the Iowa Heartlanders and he got some pretty good numbers there nine oh 504 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,559 five save percentage. What do you think about Hunter Jones? Is he going 505 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,480 to be just back up at best kind of guy? His equivalence he's looked 506 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:44,639 like that. I think at this point he still has the promise of being 507 00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:46,920 a little bit better than that, but that's what he's trending towards for sure. 508 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:52,119 When he got drafted, I really liked him his draft gear because he 509 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:57,719 was a bigger goaltender who seemed like he had some good speed to his game, 510 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,559 and then it seemed like his conditioning kind of fell off a little bit. 511 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,239 I didn't love how his trajectory went after he got drafted, and it 512 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,760 seemed like he fell off there technically and didn't seem like he was really wowing 513 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,440 like a second round pick should have. But there have been other goaltenders in 514 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:23,719 the Minnesota system who have been oversized goaltenders who know how to use some speed. 515 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,760 Because Hunter Jones really did have some decent skating speed when he was willing 516 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440 to use it, which kind of reminded me of Darcy Kemper, who spent 517 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,320 a really long time in Minnesota system being offered the starting role and saying no, 518 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,440 thank you. So that's not what I'm here for. I'd like to 519 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,159 I'd like to stay as a backup in the AHL and then really broke out 520 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,639 once he went to La and then obviously did really well with Arizona and then 521 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,920 Colorado and now we're seeing what happens with Washington. But we've seen bigger goaltenders 522 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,199 just need a little extra marination in the Minnesota system. And I don't know 523 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:06,159 if that's because that team plays a slightly more lethargic game and so their goaltender 524 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:12,280 almost has to be twice as quick, or if it's just coincidence, that's 525 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:20,280 probably it. But I think he's still got time to potentially bounce back from 526 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:24,679 what's been a lackluster post draft career so far. But I don't think he 527 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:34,079 comes anywhere close to Wallstett in style and maturity of his game and overall promise, 528 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:38,400 which obviously his equivalency shows is the case. So I don't think he's 529 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,960 worth dismissing, but I don't think he's worth getting quite as excited over. 530 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,400 I can't get more excited about him than while said it's physically impossible. So 531 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,920 thanks God for giving us your instincts on the Minnesota Wild goalies. We'll be 532 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:19,280 back right after this the Dynasty Day, the Minnesota Wild Edition Victor the Minnesota 533 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,480 Wild. You have gone in and ranked, You've racked and stacked their prospects 534 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,719 and you love them. You ranked them fourth among all the NHL franchises. 535 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,280 It starts with the no brainer, Victor, I still love that you're leading 536 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,960 off with this guy. Who is it? And know that you love that 537 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,079 because this was your guy, Danilla. You're off? And actually I actually 538 00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:43,079 mentioned before we get into You're Off, that part of the reason this team 539 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,679 is ranked so high is Yesper Walstat, who we talked about previously in a 540 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,840 different part of the show, but since since we had Kat covering him, 541 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,679 there's no reason for me to talk about him. But You're off is a 542 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,920 reasonable no brainer here. Yeah, he was definitely your guy in the twenty 543 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,440 twenty two ranks when we were talking about that. He's a first round pick 544 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,599 by Minister, a twenty fourth overall and six ft one hundred seventy two pound 545 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,079 right wing. He played primarily in the KHL last season. After fifteen points 546 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:15,239 in twelve games in the MHL and in the KHL time he had twelve points 547 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:22,440 in fifty nine games, so that was not the best production for Metallurg mag 548 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,440 Nittagorsk and at the end of the season he resigned in Russia, which was 549 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,119 a little disappointing. I think some Wild fans were hoping he would come over, 550 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:31,760 but he only resigned for one season and he's only nineteen. He'll be 551 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,880 twenty this season, so it's not unreasonable to play one more season there and 552 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,440 then potentially come over after that. The KHL season has already started at the 553 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,880 time of this recording. Four points in six games has been pretty good for 554 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,079 the same team already in the KHL. So that's a pretty decent production so 555 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:52,760 far. And we have to hear a little bit more about year off and 556 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,679 so from to do that, we're gonna hear from our HL scout. That's 557 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,159 right, Victor, and it's okay. This guy is not MYOV. He 558 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:05,360 can be EUROV too. He can be everybody's off. This guy, Danilla 559 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:09,760 Brandon is our FHL Scott in this case skating eurof has a very active motor 560 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,880 and drive that allows for powerful acceleration. What sets him apart from a skating 561 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,639 style perspective is that while his cadence can run at a higher rate, there 562 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,239 is significant and authoritative force put into the way his feet interact with end land 563 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,719 on the ice, passinger and handling soft touch, especially in shorter ranges. 564 00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:35,719 Eurof shows more conviction with this puck movement and later viewings when he started to 565 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,760 make longer passes like rink wide passes that were executed more force and speed. 566 00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:45,519 The way Eurof shields the puck and remains in motion, especially along the boards, 567 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,400 ought to translate well to various levels the pro game and shooting. He 568 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,480 shows that he has a threat that ought not go unchecked, as his wrist 569 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:57,840 shot, even from the top of the circle was lethal and could beat the 570 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,320 goaltender clean. Close to the net, Euroff shows off his soft touch when 571 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,199 deking the goalie and puts the puck into the net with a little flourish. 572 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,760 While technically not a direct shot, his hand eye coordination remains a dangerous option 573 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:16,119 for deflections IQ. Eurof's modus operandi seems to be relentless attack with and without 574 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:21,320 the puck. On offense, to borrow a football analogy, his style is 575 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,360 closer to a tight end, where he will run a short pattern up the 576 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:29,199 ice to pose as a past target. On defense, his style is close 577 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,920 to a cornerback as he encroaches while aiming to distract and disrupt the puck carrier. 578 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,079 I appreciate those brandon for checking for check is one of Euroff's calling cards 579 00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:43,960 in areas he can improve upon. Skating a drive allows him to step up 580 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:47,199 as f one time and again to pressure deep in the ozone. This position 581 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,440 work then paired with being a spatial nuisance instead of being a puck retrieval prodigy. 582 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,440 While carrying momentum in a frame on the largest side of the ledger, 583 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,079 he rarely engages or punishes physically, so mixed bag there defense. Eurofe typically 584 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,960 sticks two above the circles inside the D zone, but anything that is funneled 585 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,000 to the point on his side of the ice is met with immediate pressure. 586 00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:16,039 Europe's better suited on the back check, where there is motion to suit his 587 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:20,599 style of play. This allows him to swoop in and pick a pocket as 588 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,280 the play moves laterally on the zone entry. If facing the rush, Europe 589 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,480 will not sit back and collapse, but pressure of the zone entry at the 590 00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,599 blue line and has been successful in stirring up turnovers in this manner. The 591 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:37,039 best asset aggressive, relentless motor with dexterous puck feel. Biggest concern. Can 592 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,320 he use the skating and frame to carry the puck into a situation where he 593 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,320 can reliably generate more for his team beyond zone entries, the top tier outcome 594 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,199 true sixty five plus point top six power forward with fourays into the point per 595 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:57,000 game territory, mid high end shot potential, and the median outcome thirty to 596 00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,960 forty point middle six checking an energy role. If he goes lower in the 597 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,440 lineup, there could be an uptick in hits, but probably not to an 598 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:12,800 elite level in a stylistic comparable somewhere between Mark Stone and maxim A Feno Ginoff 599 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,119 with a hint of Rick Nash. Wow, all right, and the NHL 600 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:23,119 rank King's equivalency score it has been popping in the last year. Remember it's 601 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:27,320 been tough with his production, but now he's showing it. He's above first 602 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,199 line potential in terms of this year's equivalency, which is not based on an 603 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:37,000 enormous sample, but Nathan Bastian, Anders Bjork Jacob Delirose are his top p 604 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,880 NHLI similarity scores. We'll see what happens when he gets a little bit more 605 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,239 time. But in terms of a poll out there, Dania Lyuroff was put 606 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:52,280 up against Noah Oceland, who was drafted eight picks before him in the twenty 607 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,880 twenty two draft, and Uroff defeats Oceland by a fairly narrow margin fifty three 608 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,320 to forty seven. Sent Victor, Is that how you see this breaking down? 609 00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,880 Yeah, I think so. I think that's reasonable. Ausland is an 610 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:15,559 excellent real life player. He's the part of that Your Garden trio with Ogrin 611 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:21,440 and Lekanamaki, and I think that Oceland is by far the best all around 612 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,000 player of that group, and he's the center most likely, and he'll be 613 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:30,000 probably counted on to do a lot of heavy lifting defensively two way play, 614 00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:36,159 and so I think that's more reasonable in terms of if you want an actual, 615 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,639 like for sure NHL player, But I don't also don't know that the 616 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,440 upside is huge for Austin. I think he probably is similar to this pnhle 617 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,519 of like maybe a fifty to sixty point player who's gonna take face offs and 618 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,400 be good all around, but may not have the best offensive upside. You're 619 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,320 off on the other hand, being a winger, being a skilled winger and 620 00:45:55,519 --> 00:46:01,239 potentially being part of this Minnesota group workupriest Off and Boldy and these other guys 621 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,519 will still be there, like maybe he takes Zucarello spot at some point in 622 00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:08,400 the next couple of years, So I think that's reasonable. I think that 623 00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:14,079 I would rather have You're Off because he's gonna find it easier to get those 624 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,880 offensive minutes. His equivalenc's much higher. If you just look at the hockey 625 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,559 prospect equivalency between these two, it's much higher for You're Off forty six percent, 626 00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:24,880 down from sixty one but still very high, and Ousland nineteen down to 627 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,519 twelve percent. So he had a tough year with in Sweden. Yeah, 628 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:35,239 I would take You're Off. I think the NHLOR probability is higher for Oceland 629 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,400 though, And if you just look at some of other comps for You're Off, 630 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,559 he's got some interesting ones, some really good ones like Taylor Hall, 631 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,920 Vincent damp Fuss, Maryon Gaberick. Seems a little unlikely that he'll hit those 632 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,360 highs, but the guys like Alexis Lafrenier is one that he looks a fair 633 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,480 amount like, who continued to trend down and now is maybe a bit disappointing 634 00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:57,920 slash coming into his own Depending on which narrative you want to believe. I 635 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:02,079 think Lafrenier is just that sixty to seventy point guy. If everything breaks right, 636 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:05,159 so you're off, I think could be that maybe a little bit more. 637 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,679 I like your off still there. And if you look at the top 638 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:14,280 down hockey model, you have just four percent chance of being a star for 639 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,119 your off, fifteen percent chance of being an NHL or so quite a bit 640 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:22,239 down down there for your off. So yeah, I think that he's continued 641 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,199 to increase his potential. Though if you, as you mentioned with the ranking, 642 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,719 potential looks like he's trending up with a hockey prospecting, he's trending down. 643 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,360 And I think overall he's someone that I definitely would be interested in getting. 644 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,320 Especially since he went a little bit later in the first maybe people are 645 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,320 a little less excited about him, and maybe you can capitalize on that fact 646 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,599 that he resigned in Russia. Maybe people are gonna think, oh, he's 647 00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:50,400 never coming over. I think he will. He definitely wants to for sure, 648 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,840 Victor. That was our first man up. Now let's talk about our 649 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,920 need to know prospect. Yeah, I need to know. I just meant 650 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,960 him. Liam ogrin Ogren twenty twenty two, first round pick, nineteenth overall 651 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,239 six one eighty seven pound left wing. He was with Drew Gardens if of 652 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,920 the hockey El Spenskin and part of that trio that I mentioned. He was 653 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,559 definitely my favorite of the three. I think that he's a blend of that 654 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,920 good in real life but also has good offensive upside, whereas luck at Amaki, 655 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,840 the other one is basically just all offense and he had a down year, 656 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,800 but he's looking better now is luck at Amaki? Anyways, with Drew 657 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,119 Gardens last year, Ogrin had eleven goals, nine assist for twenty points and 658 00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,800 thirty six games, and then really turn it on in the qualification playoffs thirteen 659 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,599 points and seventeen games. Sure, Gardens came really close but didn't quite get 660 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:47,719 promotion back to the SHL. But that's okay because thankfully Ogrin is going to 661 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,559 be loaned to Farjerstad in the SHL, so he will be getting some SHL 662 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,159 games this year, which is good because he really I think he needs that. 663 00:48:55,519 --> 00:49:00,760 He's ready for a little bit tougher competition. He strug well the previous 664 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,519 season in the SHL with just twenty It's just two points in twenty five games. 665 00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,239 But he's a little bit of a load the player now, and I 666 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,320 think he should do. He's already signed so he could play NHL games at 667 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,880 the end of this current season. And we have to know a little bit 668 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,039 more about what makes Ogrim tick. And for that we'll hear from our FHL 669 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:21,639 scout. Yes, indeed, we will hear from our FHL scout on this 670 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,119 one. Ogren is a cerebral skater and can shift from subtle edgework away from 671 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,840 the puck to a high torque motor that allows him to insert himself into a 672 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,440 developing play. His skating is fundamentally sound, has hip mobility that he uses 673 00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:43,039 to creatively accessed edges while shifting through the motions to maintain momentum and position. 674 00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:47,760 At times, he looks like he could benefit from more core connectivity that would 675 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,719 better bind his upper and lower halves. Passing and handling, he's an interceptor 676 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:59,440 supreme and turnover generator near center ice in the neutral zone. After intercepting the 677 00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:02,079 puck, he often will move the puck forward with a shorter range give and 678 00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:07,760 go play to enter the zone. When looking to make a pass under pressure, 679 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,280 he usually allows the pursuing attack or to encroach and make the first move 680 00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:16,079 that Ogrin can use to make a pass to a teammate in motion. For 681 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,519 shooting, Ogrin's shot, regardless of selection, tends to carry some extra gusto 682 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,039 with it, and this is made evident by how audible his shots are through 683 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:29,199 the release most powerful weapon, the one touch timer, where he drops to 684 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,000 one knee to let the shot rip in motion and during zone entries, his 685 00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:38,199 wrist shot is released in stride and has let go with impressive velocity the IQ 686 00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:43,719 great poison patience. Both with and without the puck, he will hold the 687 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,280 puck for an extra beat or two while remaining in motion and at a distance 688 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,519 from an attacking threat. Buys this extra time for himself to survey the developing 689 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:57,440 scene and look for the best play to make quite versatile ought to avoid being 690 00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:01,800 typecast as one style of player. Ogrin's mortar and linear speed allow him to 691 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,559 be a threatening four checker that is very willing to throw his body to finish 692 00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,559 the check. He often adds an extra pop to his checks as he is 693 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:15,280 following through and in defense, he will typically take the role of a half 694 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,119 wall pass option to serve as a bumper to break the puck out if the 695 00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:22,480 play gets congested near his jurisdiction, He'll lend a helping stick to free up 696 00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:28,239 the puck and allow the play to openly flow again. He's conscious of open 697 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,639 ice, will float into the middle of the ice wind play is up against 698 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:36,519 the board of his off wing. Best asset was that IQ demonstrated through a 699 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,880 patient, yet determined level of playmaking, creativity, and the biggest concern. 700 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,440 There's no glaring gaps or concerns, but there's room for development and refinement of 701 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:49,760 most of the tools in his toolbox. That said, developing more potent and 702 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,719 efficient acceleration would make the most of his current skill set. The top tier 703 00:51:53,800 --> 00:52:00,920 outcome for Ogrin a top six winger translate a transition specialist that is the secondary 704 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:07,360 play driving piece on his line perennially near sixty points in a seventy plus range 705 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,280 above average shot totals with some hits sprinkled into the mix. Would benefit from 706 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:15,400 power play deployment on a unit that is built around player movement. Median outcome 707 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,840 would be a middle six thirty to forty point winner with some special teams deployment. 708 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,199 Seems like E is suited to be a very multiple coach's favorite and the 709 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:30,239 stylistic comparable the tenacity and motor of near prime Klaujarut mixed with the style and 710 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,559 positional play of Kyle Conner, along with shades of the patient's subtle one touch 711 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,679 creativity and shot velocity of adoring Kempe. That was, by the way, 712 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,679 a scouting report by our buddy Brandon the NHL Rank King data and poll for 713 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,840 Ogren, he is about a second line potential P and P NHL E equivalency, 714 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:58,079 and we're going to compare him to Nikolai Kovalenko of the Colorado Avalanche draft 715 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,679 from two thousand eighteen, and who would you rather have on your fantasy team? 716 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,880 Ogred beats him out. That seems like a fairly fairly light target to 717 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,920 go against, but Ogren beats him out sixty two to thirty eight percent. 718 00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:16,159 Victor, is that the way that you would do this one? Yeah? 719 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,440 I would take Ogren here. I know that Kovalenko is someone that people are 720 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,320 really excited about. He's a Colorado prospect who was drafted really late in twenty 721 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,599 eighteen, and he's been over in Russia and he's one of these kind of 722 00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:32,599 quote unquote late bloomers. If you believe in that kind of thing. He 723 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,599 basically hadn't done anything until this past season where for Torpedo he had fifty four 724 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:44,360 points in fifty six games. Who's not a really strong KHL team. So 725 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,400 I think people are excited about him and his potential to step into the AVS 726 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,559 lineup. But he's still going to be in Russia next this season, and 727 00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:55,320 so we're looking at next season for him to come over, which is probably 728 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,079 similar to Ogren. Anyways, I just think Ogren has more upside, so 729 00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:02,440 I still like him a little bit more. I think there's a lot of 730 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:07,960 questions still about Covalenco, and so I would definitely take Ogren even though his 731 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,599 start potential has trended down for twenty five to eleven percent. Covalenco's is basically 732 00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,159 at zero because he graduated the model last season when he hadn't done so much. 733 00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:20,880 And then if you look at some of other comps for Ogrin, he 734 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,000 looks some guys Jack Quinn, Philips, Adina, Alex Nilander. Not super 735 00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:29,960 exciting, but I still think there's some decent potential there. The Jay Fresh 736 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,159 card a little pessimistic two percent chance of being a started, twelve percent chance 737 00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:37,840 of being an NHL. So that's Liam Ogrin and Victor. Now we have 738 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:40,440 the third and final who is to keep your eye on prospect for this Minnesota 739 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,239 Wild team. You must keep your eye on Brock Faber, twenty twenty second 740 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,760 round pick by the LA Kings, six foot one, two hundred pound right 741 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,280 handed d. He was part of the Kevin Fiala trade. He's a Minnesota 742 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,800 boy. He's born in Maple Grove, and he went to the USNTDP, 743 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,599 went to University Minnesota, and so it's only fitting that he came back to 744 00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:05,480 Minnesota in that trade. I think that was a fantastic piece of business by 745 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,360 the Wild, who didn't seem like they were gonna sign fiel A long term 746 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,320 anyway. So just finished his third season there at the University of Minnesota as 747 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,400 their captain for goals twenty seven, twenty three assists for twenty seven points in 748 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:21,480 thirty eight games. Really great production there. Played two games for the while 749 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,239 at the end of the season in six playoff games, no points, but 750 00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:30,960 he was really good for them. He was I think impressively good for a 751 00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:35,519 team in such a high competitive window. That's always hard when you finish your 752 00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,440 collar season. Yeah, the Frozen four is intense and all that, but 753 00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:44,679 you step into the NHL in the playoffs like that's several levels above an intensity 754 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,920 level, and he did not look out of place at all. In fact, 755 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,800 he looked like one of their best players at times. He even saved 756 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,599 a goal. As I mentioned when I was on keeping Carlson. He's just 757 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,800 so good, and two years left on his entry level deal, I think 758 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,800 he's already probably their fourth best defenseman and has the potential to be top pairing 759 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,119 material, if not second pairing. Looking at his tracking data from Mitch Brown, 760 00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:13,280 his transition game is his calling card. He's really excellent at pretty much 761 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,320 all things transition entries, exits, success, cross lane passes, really good 762 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,360 at primary assists per sixty as well. The one thing he's not as so 763 00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:25,519 much as his expected goals or shots and isn't much in the peripheral categories, 764 00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,920 which is unfortunate. Actually, this tracking data has his defense is not as 765 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,440 good, which I think is weird, although most of that negative is from 766 00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:37,400 his entry prevention, which isn't as good as it could be. But the 767 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,599 rest of the things are pretty good, like his retrievals and his corsie. 768 00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:45,199 This doesn't track everything. As Mitch would tell you, I think we all 769 00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:49,800 think of brock Fabor as an excellent defensive player, and to hear a little 770 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,840 bit more about what makes him tick. Let's hear from our FHL scout that's 771 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,719 right or FHL scout Tony weighs in on Brock Faber skating good to very good 772 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,239 passing and handling. Good passing, especially in the offensive zone, effective getting 773 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,199 the puck out of the defensive zone, and just overall good puck handling. 774 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:15,320 Shooting good, especially from above the faceoff dots IQ positional awareness is positive. 775 00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:21,639 Offensive anticipation although not used that way in college or a few pro games. 776 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,079 Panic meter is nil in college, seems to be a little bit increased in 777 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:30,880 the few NHL games in playoffs. Favor has so far experienced defense. Good 778 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:36,599 defensive position, not much rushing, but first passes effective to start team out 779 00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:40,320 of the d zone. Not overly physical in zone, but solid, able 780 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,960 to switch between the offense and defense. Best asset was that skating. The 781 00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:50,280 very good solid skating does a lot of subtle things that make a good hockey 782 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,199 player. The biggest concern aggressiveness, not aggressive enough when he should be The 783 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,480 top tier role or potential is going to be tier two. He's got the 784 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:05,679 offensive skills skating, passing, shooting, but seems to be put in a 785 00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:09,920 more defensive role and if he does not get more aggressive in the median outcome 786 00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:14,719 for him third pairer defenseman with minimal power play time could be a penalty kill 787 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:21,400 type. The stylistic comparison for Favor is Charlie McAvoy. That would be pretty 788 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,480 nice and Brock Fabre's NHL ranked King Dad. Of course, we know once 789 00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:30,679 a guy debuts, we're not going to get equivalency guys, but he's trending 790 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:37,679 up toward between first and second line potential in terms of where his equivalences were 791 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,079 last year. And for our comparison, Brock Fabor head to head with Thomas 792 00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,920 Harley, that's some serious competition as Harley has also debuted for the Dallas Stars. 793 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,639 And Harley won but not by much fifty four to forty six percent Harley 794 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:58,719 over Fabor Victor. Is that the way you'd rank them in the margin you 795 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:05,000 give them? Yeah? Probably. I think I love Brock Favor. He's 796 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,079 just such a good player. As I've mentioned before, I just he's someone 797 00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:12,000 that you definitely wanted your team, And yeah, that's interesting thing about him 798 00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:15,480 and Charlie McAvoy. Macavoy was someone who came in and he was pretty good 799 00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:19,880 right away, but he doesn't getting all the opportunity, wasn't really getting a 800 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,920 lot of power play points. He had decent production. He was at forty 801 00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:27,920 ish thirty to forty ish point guy, and then once he got the opportunity, 802 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,360 then he's like a beast, right because he does have pretty good peripheral 803 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,280 coverage. I don't think Fabor is going to be that good in the peripherals, 804 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,039 but I think he has that upside in terms of just someone you rely 805 00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:43,639 on in all situations, and he certainly can be a forty to fifty point 806 00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:46,239 guy in the right situation if he's given the opportunity, which there isn't really 807 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,320 an air apparent there. I know there's Addison's He's got struggles. He has 808 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,639 the shoes Hardy I loved too. He's got a mirror high skinning problem, 809 00:59:54,239 --> 01:00:00,800 and I think that he's someone who could eventually compete for at opportunity with high 810 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,239 skinning, but he's also not as good all around. He could be like 811 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,840 a second pairing split power play guy, So I think I would take Harley 812 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,119 just because he has more offensive upside. So I think this poll is pretty 813 01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:16,159 accurate just in that sense too, that it's pretty close. Both these guys 814 01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:21,599 are very good. I think that Favor will probably be more important to the 815 01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:23,880 team, to his team, and Thomas Harley might be more important to your 816 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,800 fantasy team. So that's how I would put that. If you look at 817 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,840 the comparison between the two in hockey prospecting, there's no question that Harley has 818 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,719 more offensive upside and his equivalency is much higher. He covered in that mid 819 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:44,000 twenties to forty percent star potential, graduated at thirty two percent after a down 820 01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,199 season in the HL, but he's got a pretty good chance of being a 821 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:51,559 good producer at the next level, Whereas Favor was in that subten percent range 822 01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:54,239 his whole time, and he continued. He graduated in that range, but 823 01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,159 actually not even the highest NHL or probability, which I find interesting because he 824 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,400 is I think, to me, clearly an NHLer, no question, and 825 01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:08,199 some of the other Favors comps are are disappointing. Actually some pretty replacement level 826 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,840 comparisons. Lucas Carlson is someone who's in the league right now, Connor Carrick, 827 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,480 someone who isn't really that exciting but plays games a little disappointing there for 828 01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:22,960 his other comps. And then you look at Jay Fresh and it's incredibly pessimistic. 829 01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:25,159 Zero percent chance of being a star for brock Faber, the four hundred 830 01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:30,800 and sixtieth ranked prospect in its data set, crazy and just twelve percent chance 831 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,719 of being an NHLer, which I find ludacrous. That's crazy talk to he's 832 01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:37,280 going to be an NHLers. Sometimes the analytics don't always work out right, 833 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,119 but to me, that's that's a failure because I think brock Faber is way 834 01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:44,880 better than that. Anyhow, there are more guys we could talk about, 835 01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:46,039 Jesse, but there's no time here. If you're a patron, you can 836 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:51,519 listen to my top ten prospect recap on Patreon, and if you're injured in 837 01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:54,119 doing any scouting, then you can shoot me a DM on Twitter, Discord, 838 01:01:54,320 --> 01:02:09,000 or email us. We'll be right back close up the show. Just 839 01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:13,239 a couple of things to mention before we get out of here today. One 840 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,440 of them is you can play all your leagues on fan tracks. I know 841 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,719 I try to as many as I possibly can. You can do all kinds 842 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,679 of things. That's why you want to go over there. You've got all 843 01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:28,760 the options on scoring, two hundred different categories as far as I can tell. 844 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,079 You can do salaries, contracts, try them both. Customize your rookie 845 01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:37,280 eligibility. You can start up the league's the day after the season ends. 846 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,159 I'm expecting, by the way, on Monday to flip over my baseball dynasty 847 01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:45,280 leagues. That's wonderful because people have been waiting since the trade deadline. You 848 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,679 can customize rookie eligibility pretty much anything you can think of. They even have 849 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,639 a good mobile chat feature and even a new chat feature. I don't quite 850 01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:58,960 I haven't quite tried it out yet, but apparently a way to have a 851 01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:04,000 chat specific on a trade offer and go back and forth on a trade offer 852 01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:07,000 within its own dedicated little chats. So try all those things. Fan tracks 853 01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:14,199 HQ associated with Fantracks. You'll see all the articles on their right integrated with 854 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,920 your team pages. If you're on desktop, there's articles on fantasy hockey, 855 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:21,559 all the other fantasy sports. Ton of fantasy hockey content coming out right now. 856 01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:27,119 There are other podcasts because there's ten different sports on Fantracks, The Prospect 857 01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:31,239 Pod, Full Count Fantasy Baseball, the Fly Fantasy Football, p TWOW Fantasy 858 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,719 Football, and there are even more pods coming out. I can't even keep 859 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:42,639 track right now, but if you're interested in more fantasy sports content associated with 860 01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:46,159 Fantracks, it's there. We think our content curator, Nate Duffett, he's 861 01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:50,119 been helping a ton with this show prep and we're brought to you by Dabber 862 01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:53,280 Hockey. We're part of the Dauber podcast network in addition to the Fan Tracks 863 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:59,519 podcast network. Dabber Prospects is the site within Dabber Hockey where Victor is an 864 01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:02,320 editor. You can follow his work there, and he has another podcast over 865 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,880 there, dabb Prospects Report, which he does with our friend Peter Harling. 866 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,519 More fantasy hockey content for your enjoyment. I do a solo show called Dynasty 867 01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:20,039 Sports Life. I talk multiple different dynasty sports sometimes overlapping, and actually I 868 01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:25,079 think by the time you're listening to this, well, actually it'll be a 869 01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:30,039 couple of days away, but this week's episode should involve multiple sports. Twitter 870 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,480 follow us on x at fan Hockey Life at Victor Nuno twelve. You can 871 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,800 check us out there. You can rate and review and subscribe to this podcast 872 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,800 on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, on overcast, I like Overcast or any 873 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,840 other podcast. Aggreator of your choice five stars and some kind words is always 874 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:55,280 appreciated. We're almost to the end. A couple more team previews to get 875 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,960 you ready for this fantasy hockey life.