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This is I on the Ball with Steve

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Robera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to

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my I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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He's Jay. Now we have Henry
with breaking news. This is I on

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the Ball breaking News on Fox Sports
fourteen to fifty. So NBA free agency

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opened yesterday and Paul George signed a
forty year, two hundred and twelve million

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dollar contract to join the Sixers,
Klay Thompson three year, fifty million dollar

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contract to join the Mather Mavericks,
and Jason Tatum also signed a five year,

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three hundred and fifty million dollar extension, which is the largest NBA history,

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and he will be the first player
to make seventy million dollars. Seventy

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million dollars in one season. Steve, unbelievable. Well, they're selling the

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team too, right, Yeah?
I had that. Yeah, this,

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you know, these contracts were coming
across on social media and stuff, and

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I'm just going, what the hell
have we become? Ticket prices going up?

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Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah, i mean, I'm you know,

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and look, I mean they're they're
spending it because they have it,

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I guess, right, But I'm
just crazy. I'm just like, seventy

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million dollars a year if the if
the owners are paying this, how much

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are the owners making Say that's the
thing. They've all got these teams and

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they really don't care. They're toys
for these guys. Now, you know,

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none of these owners are trying to
make money off their teams. They

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just want to have great teams and
win championships and go to the locker room

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and sniff some jocks. I don't
know the money, you know, but

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well they're they don't want to lose
money, Okay, but they're they're not

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these aren't. This isn't where their
businesses are, sure, yeah, right

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somewhere else. They're making their money
elsewhere. And then they get to play

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with these things and drive them around
like you know, like fancy cars,

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and sit in the front row or
sit in there right in the box.

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I know if I were an owner, and this is just me stupid,

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and I would I wouldn't pay seventy
million dollars to someone to play basketball,

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would you. I would have a
hard time being an owner if that's what

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I had to do. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, if I if that's

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what I that's what it takes to
be an owner, then I would probably

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rather not own that team. That's
just yeah, that's just me. Speaking

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of owners, The Celtics ownership group
led by Wick Grossbeck, is planning to

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make the franchise available for sale.
Amazing. Maybe maybe Rodriguez by it.

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I'm joking, of course, but
because you couldn't buy the Minnesota team,

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right, they took it away from
him, him and the other day they

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were supposed to buy it, and
then they took it away and now he

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has no team to buy. It
was announced today that Arizona Baseball will be

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heading to Houston next year to take
on Texas A and M. Did you

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see that Tennessee huge? Say huge? Who's in it again? Read it?

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Tennessee the defending champ in Texas A
and M the defending run. And

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then they had there's another Mississippi sim
state. It's like wow, yeah,

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And then you have did we have
this last week or this came over the

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weekend? You have softball softball information
they're going to Italy or they just went

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to Italy? Are they're going to
Italy? Now? Like? Right?

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Now right now. Remember we trying
to reach it. They're right now,

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right now, Yeah, George Lopis, I think so that they went to

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Italy, they playing a big I
didn't say that if care was involved in

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this because he's been helping the team
US Italy, and I think that's what

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it is. But what a great
experience. And in fact they're taking the

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seniors that were just seniors with that
with them. That's a cool thing.

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Yeah, And it's not paid for
the school. It's paid through donors to

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Yeah, because now you every time
they do something, you have to want

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to where's where's the money coming from? People are unemployed. Now you have

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to where they're paid pro interesting,
Okay. Caitlin Clark was one rebound shy

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a triple double as the Fever beat
the Mercury yesterday. I watched that.

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I watched it. I watched it
only because I'm curiously got about and she

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didn't have a great game. It
was. They kept talking about it.

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They could try to get her to
get a rebound, but she didn't have

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a great game and she was even
not even the best player on her team

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that yesterday. But it was a
good game. It was. It was

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seventeen thousand people, and you can
hear it once again, you could hear

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the other the crowd actually cheering for
the fever. She didn't have a good

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game, and she had seventeen points
I think nine revounue. They were taking

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her out at the end for defensive
right, right, right, No,

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it's a good game. The Taroshi
had a good game, so did what's

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your name? Because they respect each
other now and she had some great quotes

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after the game. Seventeen thousand people
once again, and right, and she

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was the visiting team. Guess what's
gonna happen? Jay, And they kind

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of started talking about this yesterday.
I'm sure they've done it before. At

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the end of the year, they're
gonna say Kumbaya, thank you, right,

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you know, they may not have
said it two weeks ago, but

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at the end of the year,
they're going to say thank you for what

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you've done for us. Right.
Well, if they don't, they should,

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yeah, right, they should say
that to all the TV coverage,

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all the sold out stadiums. Yeah. And it's it's helped with other stadiums

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too. It has. Last thing
I got John Gruden lost a bid for

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reconsideration and an NFL lawsuit he filed
against the NFL. He resigned as coach

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a couple of years ago. Right, I'm sure he wants to get back

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into coaching. I would think,
you know, that's that was the whole

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purpose of that, is to try
and get back into coaching. Yeah,

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no, I would think that he
wants to. But dude, you said

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what you said. I mean,
you're pissed that it got out. I

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get it. You're mad that somebody
you know, threw you under the bus

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like that. But you said what
you said, so you can't erase that

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part of it. So you know, good luck, good luck with that,

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Good luck with that, you know, Yeah, I mean you know

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you you make the bed man,
You make the bed laying it. You

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had all the NFL in the NFL, NBA trans signings and all that.

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Philadelphia looks like it could be the
team to beat. Well then yeah,

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they they elevated to like the second
team with the second odds to win the

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champions. Who would be first to
Boston? Boston, Well, Philly.

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If MB doesn't get hurt, they
have a chance. Paul George Clippers are

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gonna get hit. Obviously, I'm
looking at I'm looking up to see if

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they have win uh Conference champions yep
Celtics plus two ninety five seventy six ers

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plus eight hundred in Oklahoma City eight
fifty, then Vernuka's eight fifty, Nicks

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nine to fifty, Timberwolves a thousand, Mavericks a thousand. So there you

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go. Yeah, they they've jumped
up pretty fast with that. I mean,

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look, somebody put a you know, pictures of the five guys who

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are the projected stars. He thought, that's a pretty damn good team.

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You know, it's a matter of
pot obviously, the matter of what's behind

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it, but it looks like a
pretty good team. That's all I go.

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All right, you know what it
is besides Morning Pac twelve day,

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it's Bob Oh, that's right.
Just for a lot of a lot of

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memes and videos, you know that
I saw one of somebody driving up and

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would look like a like a nice
looking jag. He gets out of the

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car and it's not Bobby Bonia,
but it's a guy dressed to you know,

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the nines, and he's kind of
strutting walking into a building and say

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that's Bobby Bona getting getting the city
field today to the one Basketball Park,

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one point two million until still until
twenty thirty five, until twenty thirty five.

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Crazy, See, we should have
been better at baseball. Yeah,

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we'd be making fifty bucks fifty bus. That was a funny thing that my

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son said. He got up to
my grandson, who's, you know,

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a year and a half old,
and he says some words, but he's

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really basically not talking. And he
just walked up to you're going to be

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a basketball player. I forget about
baseball, forget about soccer. You're going

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to be a basketball player. And
I'm like, he's a Gonzales. He's

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a Gonzal. Yeah, he's gonna
have to be a heck of a guard.

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Well, first of all, he's
gonna have to get really tall.

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He can good. There aren't any
six footers in our on our side of

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the family. Okay, so if
he's not going to get to six feet,

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he's gonna have to be a damn
good shooter. Well, I suggest

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soccer or baseball, like golf or
or golf or golf or golf, and

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that's very possible. Yeah, you
better start playing now. Yeah, Well,

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those he already is. He's got
a golf a golf club that he

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swings around the house. But there
was a fifteen year old in the golf

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tournament last week tournament. Well,
he missed the cut. He was close

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to the cut all week long.
You had talked about that. Plus the

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sixteen year old runner he made he
made, he didn't have that. The

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runner he made the track team he
did make the olympicthy, yeah, he

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got in. He's said they're gonna
put him on the roster to run for

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just in case. Oh as a
as like an alternate. Yeah, okay,

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Wow, the youngest guy will ever
be fifteen years old, sixteen,

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sixteen, sixteen years you're a golfer
was fifteen? Yeah, what a thing?

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What a thing? Yeah? So
yeah, and there's also a sixteen

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year old in women's track too,
who I don't know if she if she

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made it. Yeah, well that's
Fred Harvey. Yeah, we'll talk to

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abouball this. We got about two
minutes before we take off. We can

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do that now and then get them, get them so you can have time

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to get to board, get deep. All right, okay, yeah,

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let's do that. All right,
Le's go ahead, hit the brake.

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I on the Ball. Hey, welcome

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back to Winning the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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You're Jay. We have Henry oh
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Harvey on the phone. Coach,
how are you? I I'm doing doing

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next one, you know, you
know trans you know, uh, transporting

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back from Eugene back to two seen
to Tucson after the you know, the

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Olympic trials. Who wanted to actually
talk to you about the Pittsburgh Steelers?

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Never mind? How was it?
How many times have you done this?

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You've done this forever? Well?
Well, you know, but you know,

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talk about the Steelers is always a
great thing. You know, they're

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gonna they're gonna be sensational this year
of contrary to popular belief. No,

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what you're about coaching are Eugene.
You've done this, You've been to coach

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here like thirty some years. How
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Oh my god, I've been.
I've been to Eugene every single year since

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nineteen seventy six. Oh my gosh. How old were you when you were

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seventy six? You were like twelve
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school, so I was actually seventeen
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I think you may have tweeted something
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change there's been since that time?
Oh? I mean it's I mean,

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it's it's really I mean the transformation
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just you know, the behold and
the new facility is I mean it's grand

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and everything, but it doesn't have
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we're you know, we're getting you
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and you know in the performance levels
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that that that real feeling of you
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fans are really right there on top
of you. It's it's it's an entirely

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different field. Interesting. Interesting,
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watching some of your athletes and former
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I know there was some disappointment,
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I mean what's your takeaway from how
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you know and with without you know, you know, shadows out not trying

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to you know, uh, you
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I mean it's it's the hardest team
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to make. And you know,
Jordans you know, being you know fourth

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you know in the shot and fifth
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the hammer, I mean you're so
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doesn't know, it doesn't satisfy it
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you know, just get into the
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you know, makes the final and
she she hit three hurdles and that

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and that's that can't happen in the
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if she was clean, uh,
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have ran a really nice pr and
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that area, but she would it
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the team leaders. There's three young
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four that aren't going to be on
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will make any global finals. Right. Well, well, does she have

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a chance to come back in the
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of fact, she is literally in
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She has one and race uh in
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she will head to Ireland for two
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for uh, you know, for
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She's doing well, oh yeah,
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love to be on the team.
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flight and I had to Europe and
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what's his future? Yep, I
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I mean he goes, you think
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his freshman year hex senior year in
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really an old person. He's just
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so I mean he has you know, he definitely has a minimum of four

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years left in what he wants to
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to be able to you know,
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to train at the level that he's
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know that one of your athletes,
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u A, when do you see
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this is a person who's got Olympic
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on that? Well? And so
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mean, it's it's it's really early
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from those athletes. You know,
you know, I have a young lady

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who is just a sophomore this year
Antonia. You know Sanchez Nunez who just

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won the Mexican Championships in the four
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the fifty six oh two, which
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know, get her to the games. But at that age, and you

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see, when you're that competitive and
you and you win championships, and that's

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the big thing. You have to
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the Junior Olympic National Championships or you
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athletes are going to have the capacity
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that's where we you know, you
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talent, but they don't understand how
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and when you see that, that's
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grasp you have to grab onto that
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good job of really you know,
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know, of winning because you you
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The talent is there, it's just
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know, understand how how to win
coaching? Me ask you just for clarification,

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do you have anybody going to Paris? Not at this time that we

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personally coached in Tucson, but we
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athletes that are are going to be
competing you know, uh, you know,

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and you know, like uh,
you know in you know, in

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you know, in in Paris.
You know it's like, for example,

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O, my god, I'm losing
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killing me here. But you're just
getting old, friend, You're just getting

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old. But we have we have
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to compete you know, uh,
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I'm not sorry, in the in
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gonna be out there then? Yeah? So my wife Jan and I we

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are definitely going out, uh you
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games, and then we're gonna leave
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Coach, did you see your can
you tell us about the sixteen year

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old kid Quincy Wilson? I mean, what are we what are we seeing?

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I mean that that is just and
that he is something special and that

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is you know, I mean to
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get yourself in the into the relay
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of age, in the four hundred
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track that you know that it's watching
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just goes out and then throws it
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life. This guy is running down
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and fifty one hundred meters, He's
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the world, you know, and
that's that's so rare, you know,

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to be able to see that,
you know in a young person that's usually

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you know, their hair is on
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out of hell, you know,
the first half and is hanging on for

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dear life. I mean, he's
he's so patient and his ability, you

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know, to be able to you
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close that the rate that he does, I mean, it's it's really remarkable.

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You know, all the respect in
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young man, so so is he
I know, he's gonna be part of

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the team. So is he gonna
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in that relay? No? So
what what? What? What? Most

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likely happened because he did he did
play high enough in the open four that

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the US team will will spare their
you know, the top athlete that they

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want to run in the finals.
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a leg you know, in the
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will definitely not run in the finals. Okay, all right, Yeah,

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but here's the Kid's the kidd he's
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this is not a recruiting question.
Is he going to go to college somewhere?

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Is he being recruited? Well,
well, again, if you think

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about how young he is, yeah, I mean he has you know,

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two more years of high school,
right, you know, and he's definitely

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being recruited. The the reality of
it, honestly, you know, I

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don't see that happening. I don't
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in a collegiate system because quite frankly, I don't think a collegiate system

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is the best system for him because
he's going to be expected to run you

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know, indoors, indoor conference,
outdoor outdoor conference, and then it's it's

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too much running on the bonding,
right, So I mean we're looking at

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a kid who can be in what
four Olympics kind of ye yeah, absolutely,

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well your younger male version of Dera
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it's just it's incredible to think about
because I think, what was I

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doing when I was sixteen years old? Run from people? Well, I

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I was cruising speedway, you know, and it's but that's amazing. So

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what you know when you when you
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over all, you know, all
this is over. I know you're going

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to the Olympics. But what does
Fred Harvey do? Now? What's uh

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what you know, what's on your
on your plate going forward? Well,

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I have a ton of things.
The one my wife and I we run,

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you know, the largest youth program
in the country and are in the

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city Tucson lead athletic club. So
as soon as I touched down, you

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know here in Tucson, this evening
we have track. We have a club

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track practice this sevening at start at
six six pm. We're taking forty three

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kids from Tucson E League out to
Colorado next week. Uh yeah, next

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week for the you know, for
the Jail Region ten championships, and then

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we have the national championship so out
in College Station after that. So we're

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you know, so my life is, we're you know, we have back

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to coach our youth. We're still
we are actively actively recruiting, you know.

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And then the one caveat to my
new life here is that now I

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have to hire a new horizontal jumps
coach because my coach, Bobby Carter,

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was fortunate enough to get a head
coaching job you know out in Texas at

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tall uh Tallers and University out just
outside of Dallas, and so now I

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have to find a new a new
jump horizontal jumps coach. And but I've

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been working on that since uh uh
you know, uh, the entire week

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here at the at the Olympic Trials. So that you know that that's a

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real positive thing because it's a it's
a very very you know, coveted job,

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you know that, you know,
that horizontal jumps job that we have.

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So I'm hoping to narrow that down
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you know, a pool of five
or six, you know by the time

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I touched down in Tucson and we
can start doing work. So are you

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looking forward to the Big twelve?
I am. I mean it's it's gonna

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be really fun for us. And
since that, you know, we get

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you know, some new new blood
that we get to run against and jump

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against, throw against, and in
the conference. But you know, but

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how we get how we get to
our our NCAA Championships, that doesn't change

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at all. I mean, regardless
of a conference, you know, we

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still have to you know, qualify
athletes to be in the top the top

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twelve story, I'm sorry, top
forty eight to get to the first round

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of the NCAA Championships. And that
really doesn't matter what conference you're in.

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And yeah, then from there it's
it's it's, you know, the procedure

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is still the same. It's you
know, you you know you uh you

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know, to get too onto you
you know, to the to the finals.

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You're going to have you know,
you go from down from forty eight

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down to twenty four. And uh
so that's that doesn't really much matter what

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conference you're in. So coach,
when we got about two and the stuff.

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I wanted to talk to you.
We talked to mister Geist, We

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talked to Delanny Schnell Schnell about n
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you know, it's not about us, it's is this more about basketball and

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football? But you must be affected
to because you need good athletes coming here.

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But you know, we and and
and it and it does affect us,

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you know, and and that question
of the I think the difference between

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you know, a football athlete a
basketball athlete, not saying that coaching is

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not imperative in those sports, but
in our sport it is far more imperative

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because when you talk about the individuality
of what we do, you you may

407
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have, you know, someone who
you know can offer you this big nl

408
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:38.480
I Gill as a four hundred hurtler
you know at an institution. But is

409
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.960
it just about the money that you're
going to get or do you want to

410
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.839
try to make Olympic teams and then
those coaches have to be able to coach

411
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.960
those kids one on one? You
can you know, think about basketball n

412
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.279
I ls it's it's a it's a
it's a different thing. You're you're in

413
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.160
a program, You're gonna get a
lot of exposure. It the coaching does

414
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319
matter, but the one on one
coacheam that it takes in our sport and

415
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.920
I know, you know, rather
it's swimming, diving, you know,

416
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:14.160
track and build. It's it's a
different animals, So you don't we don't

417
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.279
have the same types of issues that
you know, you don't see kids jumping

418
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.000
from you know, uh, three
different schools because they're going to get a

419
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.039
better nil bill, you know,
but it is, it is definitely creeping

420
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.599
its way into our life and we're
going to have to be able to do

421
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.759
some things you know better. You
know that to be able to you know

422
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.160
more and more, so, subsidize
a lot of these athletes on our in

423
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.519
our programs that we you know that
don't have full rides. So with with

424
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:47.079
football, basketball, you're a head
counts for so you're on a full ride

425
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.680
or you're a walk on. There's
nothing in between. So you know,

426
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.319
in our in our sports, I
mean, I can have an athlete that's

427
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:57.880
on twenty three percent and having to
figure out, Okay, how do we

428
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.799
subsidize their rest so that they can
you know, they can compete and they

429
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.039
can train at you know, the
level that they're capable life. Well,

430
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.519
coach, I know you've got to
get on a plane back to Tucson,

431
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.799
so be safe and well, thank
you for talking to us. No,

432
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.880
hey, I definitely appreciate it,
and I'm glad I was able to you

433
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.400
know, fit that in. Yeah, thank you appreciate it. We'll talk

434
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.880
about the Steelers later. I hope
you heard that. Okay, Well,

435
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.200
we can stay on if you want, and we've got about five minutes we

436
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.519
can't. You know, he makes
a good point because you know those sports

437
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.880
do the individual coaching as it pertains
to your future is you know, is

438
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.440
a big deal. You know,
a track coach, a golf coach.

439
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.240
Well, right, let me tell
you this sixteen year old, fifteen year

440
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.279
old sensation. Right, how much
is he gonna go? He's gonna make

441
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.960
well that he's probably you shouldn't even
go to college, right, he should

442
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.160
just go straight into professional and they
get they can make some money. Yeah,

443
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:56.400
a lot of a lot of that
stuff is overseas and stuff. But

444
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.119
he's got a future in that.
And then at the same time he and

445
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.079
still be in the Olympics. Yeah, all he wants. So I covered

446
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.240
the Olympics twice in Australia and Greece. Let me ask you because I know

447
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.039
my answer. That's why I want
to say it. What's been the most

448
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:15.960
impressive thing you remember seeing out there
in an event? In an event?

449
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:22.039
Yeah, my god, Steve,
It's hard to know, and I already

450
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.319
forgot to guy his name, but
you know, to me, I was

451
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.200
always a sprints guy and I loved
watching that, you know, watching a

452
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.599
guy like Usain Bolt or go back
and see you know, think of a

453
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.960
of a Carl Lewis and you know, go back even you know, all

454
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.279
the all the way back into the
seventies when I, you know, really

455
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.200
paid a lot of attention to this. To me, it was always seen

456
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:49.279
how those times keep getting lower?
Right? How? Yeah? Humanly possible?

457
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:55.559
Right? Yeah? How you know
the people running those races can are

458
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.640
constantly getting faster and faster. I'm
like, okay, when are we going

459
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.119
to go? You know, when
is somebody gonna break? You know,

460
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.799
uh, nine seconds in the hundred
meters? Right, I know we're still

461
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.920
high. But you know what I'm
saying, I mean, where is there

462
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:12.440
is there a place that is not
humanly possible? Well, I think we've

463
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.960
seen it. I originally asked his
when husaying Bolt did what he did.

464
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:21.119
You're thinking, how is this guy
doing this? And then I remember just

465
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.279
just twenty sixteen. I don't know
if you remember this, the four hundred

466
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.519
meter guy Wayne. Then I didn't
even remember his name, Nightkirk, the

467
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.200
Night Kirk. He was in the
final eighth I think it was eight slot

468
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.960
and you're thinking this guy, okay, whatever, and then he blows everybody

469
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.200
away, just this normal dude.
And I'm thinking, how is this possible?

470
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:43.119
From that lane? And you're thinking, holy well, they go back

471
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.680
to Bob Eaman in sixty eight,
right with that long jump that you don't

472
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.440
think pos still the record, right, you don't think possible, that's still

473
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.799
the record. And that record was
set through the math, you know,

474
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.039
fifty six years ago, and you
know, how did he do that?

475
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.480
You know, when you feel like
it's a sum sort of a superhuman effort,

476
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:07.519
you know, to do something,
it's nuts. And I just that's

477
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.000
what to me, that's what track
is. That that's what the uh the

478
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.200
not the interest, but that that's
what to me fascinates me about track is

479
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:21.079
that you know how far a human
being can go to, you know,

480
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.519
to do something. I know,
every time a record gets broken it's broken

481
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.799
by you know, one one hundredth
of a second or something like that.

482
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:35.960
But those records keep coming out swimming, especially right you know, these swimmers

483
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.640
are faster than ever, yet the
records keep getting broken. And there's somebody

484
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.039
faster out there, and there's probably
a twelve year old right now who's going

485
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.440
to break these records in you know, six or eight or ten years,

486
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.359
you know, and you go,
how how can that keep happening? How

487
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.200
can the human possible human evolution be
for these people to bring I know we're

488
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.599
getting deep into the weeds on this, but to me that it it's it's

489
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.160
sort of like the impossible, right, I mean when they you know,

490
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.640
when the when the foremen of Mile
first got broken and now how you know

491
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.760
how low is that now? Right? Right? Right? Okay, So

492
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.239
let's say that's what fascinates me.
Let's take the break, come back,

493
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.880
and we'll get you maybe get some
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494
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537
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welcome back to tent in the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm

538
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Steve, you're Jay. We have
fifteen minutes. I want to see if

539
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.440
I try to get a couple of
people to call. Yeah, we will

540
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.519
take some calls now. If you'd
like to call US five duol for one

541
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.000
six seventy four forty. That'd be
great. You know, I thought Javi

542
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:54.480
and Morales put up a really fun
poster, fun tweet today, showIn all

543
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.719
the helmets for you of a football
from you know, going into the Pac

544
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.440
twelve until today or Pack ten until
today, And it was fun. It

545
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.480
was fun to go go back and
look at all those and and the changes,

546
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.440
how the changes came with different coaches
and stuff. Oh, let's take

547
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.360
this call. How you're on there, How you're on the air and I

548
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:19.840
on the ball, Nico, where
you've been? Hey, man, I've

549
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.519
been California for in the dreaming and
you're back here because you got kicked out

550
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.800
or you came back on your own. I ran out of money, man,

551
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.039
I was entertaining, Nico. Man, I want to say rest in

552
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.880
peace to the Pac twelve. Yeah, yeah, kind of sucks. How

553
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.760
old were you are you? Twenty
eightish? Yeah? Man, I got

554
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.719
ninety five, ninety five, so
ninety five that was the middle of the

555
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:54.960
toy and when seventy Wellev seventeen years
before. Yeah. The actually, you

556
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.880
know you've always known the Pack well, the Pac ten and then the Pack

557
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.239
twelve. Yeah, That's all I
know is growing up. Now. I

558
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.639
got to get used to this truck, that conference, the All state conference.

559
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.840
Yeah, it's just it's pathetic,
but it is what it is.

560
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.639
Yeah. Again, it's better than
being in the a sec or or being

561
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.719
stuck with Washington State in Oregon State. Hey, you got a point man.

562
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.800
That last thing I want to say, shout out to Kevin Parazza,

563
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.199
who who did one? He wont
he want to gold and silver at the

564
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:31.400
xkn Okay, okay, send us
a send us a text. Is your

565
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.519
friend of yours? No, I
don't know. I just okay, Okay,

566
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:38.760
maybe we'll try to tuck him down, try to check him down.

567
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:44.199
Ken Parrazza, yep, Okay,
all right, Nico, you're a correspondent.

568
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:51.239
Thank you for biking. All right, that's an idea. But anyways,

569
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.239
going back through these helmets is pretty
cool. You know, the the

570
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:58.880
the Tony Mason helmet, and then
he got fired, so Larry Smith came

571
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.719
in and sort of a version of
that helmet for Larry Smith's first year.

572
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.800
Then they went to that block A
that was for a lot of a lot

573
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.280
of Larry Smith's here or actually in
the DA Tony's years then they went to

574
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.440
what we call the academic A.
That's the logo. Now, I remember

575
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.760
being upset. I was just gonna
ask you change that logo. I was

576
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.480
just gonna ask you, so you
know how much uniforms? Just give me

577
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:22.760
an uniform place? Are you one
of those guys? How they look and

578
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.079
how they feel? And oh the
blue on blue with the real No,

579
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.760
I've liked the helmets over the years. Oh, let's take this talk.

580
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.519
I know who this is. Hi
are on the air and I on the

581
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.199
ball. What's going on with State? Hey there, Peter, how are

582
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.880
you? Pete Williams? I went
to are you? Let me ask you

583
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.159
a question? Jay's over here.
Jay's over here crying and got some listeners

584
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:53.519
crying. The Pac twelve is over. Are you crying? I'm not crying,

585
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.960
but but I am. I'm really
sad. It's you know, I

586
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.639
grew up on this again. I
did start watching like in the second or

587
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.760
third grade. That's where my I
know, hate is a strong word,

588
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.159
but my hatred for UCLA grew back
in like seventy seventy one because I was

589
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.880
a big sc fans still am and
Ucla and Bill Watt and those guys just

590
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.079
just tormented my trojanes and tormented me. But I told you guys before,

591
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.159
when I was a kid, I
could name every starter on every basketball team

592
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.119
in the conference back then. But
so it hurts. But no, I'm

593
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.400
not crying. Man, Well I'm
not crying either. He's making that crap

594
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:35.920
up. I'm like you, I'm
sad that it's over. I'm bummed that

595
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.880
it's over. And you know what, Okay, let's go on to the

596
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.480
next one. It's a new adventure. But yeah, I can't help it

597
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.159
be bummed by what's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

598
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:52.880
One of my best friends he played
at TCU from eighty five to eighty seven.

599
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.559
They won two south West Conference championships. And actually TCU was the first

600
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.320
school I actually visited on the recruiting
train and actually the first time actually took

601
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:05.519
a plane fight. So that was
a great conference back then, if you

602
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.239
think about it, the Southwest Conference, right, and I think that thing

603
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.800
actually dissolved, and never in my
wildest dreams that I ever think that the

604
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.000
PAC ten Tact twelve wouldever it be
in that same situation. Yeah, I

605
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:21.320
think of anybody, Pete, you're
going to be affected because Arizona went to

606
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.119
l A a number of times and
you were always there. Yeah, yeah,

607
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:29.639
well, I guess it's got to
mean the other road trips. TCU

608
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.199
is definitely gonna be one, for
sure. I think I'll do that one

609
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.920
pretty much every year that they go
to Fort Worth, so many other ones

610
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.000
can't. Maybe not so much.
But yeah, it's disappointing, it really

611
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.840
is. I am you know again
we're looking at I'm looking at this this

612
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.639
thing that Javio Morales put up with
all the helmets over the years for a

613
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.400
Zona football, and it made me
think back to you know, all those

614
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.159
times right you were you were the
basketball guy. I you know, I

615
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.880
grew up I loving basketball, you
know, Fred Snowden and all those things.

616
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.639
But football, to me, it
was the sport that I followed,

617
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.719
you know, that I bleed for, And just go back all that time

618
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.079
and see, dang, there were
those were some times and they were for

619
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.320
you too. Even as a kid. I didn't know a lot about Arizona

620
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.199
football really even up into high school. But I didn't know about t Bail

621
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.880
and I was just annoying for whatever
reason. But then when I got to

622
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.880
U of A, and I think
my junior year. They were I think

623
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.519
they were preseason number three. You
know, when you had Ricky Honley,

624
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.719
you know, Tom Tounny Cliff,
Jay Dobbins. It was just Vance Johnson,

625
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.639
Randy Robins, Allen Dirton. I
could just go on and on,

626
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.360
Steve bo Way, I mean,
Charlie Dickey. I mean, it was

627
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.119
just they were. I mean they
were a great team. They really were.

628
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.719
Larry Smith running the show. So
I walked into an awesome situation where

629
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.199
I got to see really good football, you know, my two years of

630
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.760
the U of A. And it's
just as I said before, it's just

631
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.519
so disappointing. Man. Yeah,
okay, Well, and then again,

632
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:59.559
when you're coming from a perspective somebody
who actually played in it, you know,

633
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.199
the close as I got was the
time I rushed the court, you

634
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:07.320
know, yeah, you know,
you got crazy thinking it's like, uh

635
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:13.480
my little pack hand Hall of Honor
thing or whatever. It just don't seem

636
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.039
to mean anything now because it's over, you know what I mean, It's

637
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.679
nothing they could take away from me. But the significance of it is kind

638
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.119
of it's just kind of turn us
down to the conference is gone, you

639
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.760
know. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, We'll always honor you.

640
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.880
Pete. Don't no kidding, Pete. Yeah, okay, thank you man

641
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.320
for calling in. All right,
I don't know it's gonna be on the

642
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.880
air, but you guys, I
shouldn't be surprised anyway. You gotta take

643
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.639
care and see but look forward to
seeing you guys towards what the third week

644
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.599
of August when we do that camp
thing again. Okay, thank you,

645
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:50.320
thanks about me. Appreciate it,
and thanks for not not throwing out,

646
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.880
you know, not realizing you're on
the air and thrown out on that pum.

647
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.800
So it was nice and Pete,
good shop. Yeah, you know

648
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.760
that's really something right, all those
you know, whatever awards you got and

649
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.920
all stuff for even taking the conference
that doesn't exist. I mean there's still

650
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.599
mean as much. I mean they
do, but you sit there and think

651
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.920
all these things and now that conference
is gone. Yeah, and you know,

652
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.239
no more of those, you know, but you know, I guess

653
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.079
you know, we made a big
deal out of Arizona, you know,

654
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.679
baseball winning the last back ten Pac
twelve you know championship, the baseball team

655
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.719
winning the last Pack twelve championships and
yeah and there you know, as they

656
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:27.920
say, forever champions. But oh
man, yeah, it's you know,

657
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.679
it's uh, it's the time.
It's a weird. In fact, we

658
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.800
had gone through some people right talking
about the great times that they had had.

659
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.880
I try to reach a Meal Balk
two to see if you can call,

660
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.079
because he's he's effected. He played
in it and now he was announcing

661
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.440
in it for a long time.
I don't know. I'm not sure what

662
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:46.000
his future is now with the Big
twelve. Take another call. Hi,

663
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.119
you're on the air and I on
the ball. Hey guys, this is

664
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.639
Lobo Phil. What's up, Lobo
Phil? How are you guys doing?

665
00:45:53.800 --> 00:46:01.079
You're taking thirty points in your Lobos
I'll take that thirty and a half.

666
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.280
Actually, I want to comment.
I want to comment on your discussion about

667
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.719
if Arizona goes eight and four this
year, would it be a disappointment,

668
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.719
would it be a success? Would
people feel good about it? In my

669
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.719
opinion, I think most U of
A fans would feel that it was a

670
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:22.440
disappointment because because and the reason I
say that. The reason I say that

671
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.440
is because you know, I believe
and a lot of people that I talked

672
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.599
to believe the Pac twelve football Last
year is better than the Big twelve football

673
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.760
this year, and a lot of
people also feel that that U of A

674
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.880
football should be as good or better
than they were last year. So if

675
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.960
they're if they're if they're not in
the playoffs and they're eight and four,

676
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:51.039
I think most people believe it's the
failure. That's kind of that's I don't

677
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.599
know if they think it a failure, but I think there'd be a lot

678
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.800
of there'd be some disappointment in there. Are you also factoring the fact that

679
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.480
UA fans are kind of uppity or
think more of the normal, Well,

680
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.719
no, I don't think I don't
think I would be. I don't think

681
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.840
that's specific to you of a fans. I think that's specific just to all

682
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:13.760
sports fans in general, because that's
I've seen that. You know, multiple

683
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.119
places that have lived in this country
have the sports fans are the same everywhere.

684
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:21.960
It's not a fan well anything,
but they are that way. Though.

685
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:23.840
Yeah, any fan is going to
think that they should be better the

686
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.880
next year when they've got white,
Arizona's got coming back. I agree with

687
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.960
that. I think people are hoping
for more. Yeah, people are hoping

688
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.360
and I think that they let's say
they do go in for I think individuals

689
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.000
fans are going to feel that that's
partly the coaches to have is party to

690
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.360
blame for that. Yeah, of
course I agree with it too. It's

691
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.679
funny though, if they go eating
for you can kiss the playoffs could buy.

692
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.960
Yeah. No, they're not in
the playoff going for there, not

693
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.480
in the playoffs, and I think
the you have a fans that I talked

694
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.679
to think that they're a playoff team
this year, especially if they extended the

695
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.440
number of teams. And if they
don't get there, okay, yeah,

696
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:08.960
I wouldn't say it's a failure.
I think you're right, J. But

697
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.960
it is will be a disappointment.
There will be some disappointment, Yes,

698
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.079
there were. There will definitely be
some disappointment because look, let's remember the

699
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:20.079
team that went ten and two and
beat Miami in the festival, right,

700
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.440
very high expectations. From the next
year, they actually went eight and four,

701
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.679
but they went ain't three in the
regular season, lost a bowl game,

702
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.480
and that is to me, that
season is seen as a disappointment because

703
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.920
you were expecting so much more and
they lost a couple of games that you

704
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.559
thought they shouldn't have lost, and
so you know, I think that's an

705
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.960
example of that. I'll go one
further, ja, I think that season

706
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.440
is seen by many people as a
failure. Yeah, it absolutely was,

707
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:53.880
especially when they lost that bowl game
to crappy Utah, right right, and

708
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.760
especially after the ten and two season
and what they did to Miami in the

709
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.960
full. I think there's a lot
of people here in this town thought that

710
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.360
that season was a failure for you
of a football Yeah. I agree.

711
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.039
And I think if if they had
a similar let's say they go eight in

712
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.880
four regular season and then lose a
bowl game and they're eight and five,

713
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.360
that's definitely will be seen as a
disappointment. Oh yeah, big times.

714
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:20.440
Yeah, all right, thank you. Rich all right, just want to

715
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.039
call you guys and and give you
my opinion. Take the thirty points,

716
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.679
thirty and a half. Actually go
Lobo and a half, thirty and a

717
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.199
half. You never know, haven't
you coach you haven't you coached bronco menton,

718
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:37.039
uh, Bron, you might surprise
you. Yeah, You're go into

719
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.760
four corners offense and keep the points. Bread Richard, typical Lobo, typical

720
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.400
Lobo. We have a chance.
Hey, thanks, abut I appreciate it.

721
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:51.760
Thank you. I do sound a
little negative. You do you do?

722
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.239
You do? That's realistic. I
wouldn't touch that thirty points. Maybe

723
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.519
I would. There was a lot
for a first game. Arizona's going to

724
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.880
be good, though. That's a
lot for a first this game. But

725
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.440
again, you know they're also gonna
want to come out, you know,

726
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.239
flaying in it and having something creating
some excitement that. I mean, they're

727
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.119
not going to show a lot of
what they do, but you'd like to

728
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.840
think that they didn't really want to
come out and put on a show in

729
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.480
that first home game. Uh,
Henry, you said more than eight,

730
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.559
right? You said eight and nine? Did you say? Yeah? I

731
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.400
think i'd say nine right now?
You know, I'm kind of leaning there.

732
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.159
I'm going there now, I'm there. Yeah, Victim Vic didn't sell

733
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:30.079
me, but he kind of,
you know, kind of like pushed me.

734
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.960
Yeah. Yeah, you know what, I think they can be.

735
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.639
TCU wasn't that good last year,
and every year is different. But yeah,

736
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.559
but the don't think the only thing
that makes me hesitate on TCU is

737
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:44.159
that two years ago there in the
National Championship. Okay, so what's going

738
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:45.440
what's going on over there? No? No, in fact, that's a

739
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.159
good, good point. So if
they go eating for you kind of oh,

740
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.400
not a bad, not a not
a disappointment. Ninety three, but

741
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.239
they would have to win their bowl
game, right, ninety three is a

742
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:05.280
good season. No Arizona fan,
No Arizona fan should be poop in a

743
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.280
nine win season. Ever. Ever, Yeah no, because because of who

744
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:13.199
they are, because of who Arizona
is, and Arizona has been historically put

745
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.960
into content. You you go back
to back seasons with ten wins and nine

746
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:20.280
wins, and if you're pissed off
about something, then get the hell out

747
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.599
of here. Not even I would
be grumpy about that. Yeah, exactly

748
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.119
exactly, you know, going into
a new league with a new coach and

749
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.960
all of that. If they go, if they go nine and three,

750
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.239
I'd say they win another bowl game
and go ten and three. You win

751
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.159
twenty games in two seasons. And
if that's some if somewhere in there you're

752
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.960
disappointed with that, then you got
it. You got issue. You go

753
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.960
check your own life because you got
issue. I thought I heard somebody tell

754
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.320
me that that there's a line out
there somewhere of Jeff Kings. Otherwise whatever

755
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:53.440
that Washington there is what's the it's
yeah, it's it's it's a matchup.

756
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.079
I can look it up real quick. It's a matchup of Washington against Arizona

757
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.599
and wins. And I think it's
air Zon a minus one and a half

758
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.760
or that they would have more than
Washington. Well, isn't that like a

759
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.039
given? Don't you think Washington's lost
like their whole ross? Yeah? So

760
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.519
what would make that a bet?
That wouldn't be easy to win? Unless

761
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.760
the spread is like, yeah,
okay, it's Oh, here's what it

762
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.159
is. It's it's it's Arizona's minus
two forty five. Okay, to have

763
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:22.960
more wins than Washing. That's that's
a that's not a bad bet. I

764
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.800
would yeah, but it's two forty
five forty five. You have to put

765
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.239
two hundred and forty twenty four dollars
to win ten dollars, right, Uh,

766
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.079
that could be easy ten dollars.
They're not. Washington is not gonna

767
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:39.280
win eight games. No, Washington's
gonna maybe win six. There you go,

768
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:44.159
you want ten dollars, you have
to put twenty four up. Steve,

769
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.760
I already made a bet to no. No, no, no,

770
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.880
no, But I'm just s I
hear you I'm just saying, yeah,

771
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.480
it's one of your money line things. You get twenty four of these bet

772
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.760
or go, bet go bet forty
nine bucks to win twenty twenty. It's

773
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.360
it's it's to me, it's isn't
that a winning game? Win win win?

774
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:06.800
Yeah? You think schedule, yeah, Washington's yes. How are they

775
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.039
gonna win six games? I don't
know. Yeah, I want to.

776
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.960
Okay, we gottah, we gotta
go. Okay, tomorrow, we have

777
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.840
a We have guests tomorrow, so
we should be good. All right,

778
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.199
So all right, be sure to
come back tomorrow. We'll have some great

779
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:20.880
guests for you. And again it's
a short week, so we're off Thursday

780
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.559
and Friday, so get your fill
of us the next two days. See

781
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.000
you tomorrow.

