1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:12,439 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here Shitques he your 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,679 source of information and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Block 3 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:21,800 off hats, A step hit on, stay lock. Here's your hosts, 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,399 Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey Live. Right here, you're looking at 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Jesse Severe from band tracks and right over there Victor Nuno from ep rink side. 6 00:00:32,679 --> 00:00:37,079 Victor, how you doing. I'm doing awesome, Jesse. I'm living 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,479 the dreams. I'm really excited to focus our attention this week to the draft. 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,759 But before we do that, we have one I have one more weekend 9 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:49,000 to enjoy being a super fan of the forty nine ers. At this point, 10 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:53,799 I've resigned myself to the Niners losing, so I'll just be happy if 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,840 be surprised if they pull it off. But I'm expecting an l here, 12 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,280 which is fine. But it's gonna be fun to for them, and yeah, 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,680 we'll see how it goes. How annoyed are you about all the constant 14 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,879 Taylor Swift involvement with the football this season. Oh, I'm not. I'm 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,239 not annoyed at all. I like that it's getting the attention. It doesn't 16 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:19,400 bother me? Does it bother you? Oh? No at all. I 17 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,879 think it's hilarious how they show her on screen for sixty seconds of a three 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,519 hour game and people lose their mind. I don't really, I don't care 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,519 at all. It's just funny how everyone is so upset about it. It's 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,000 a gatekeeper issue, and yeah, it's no good. That's our right. 21 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,079 It's entertainment people. Sometimes sports can be entertainment and it can be Okay, 22 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,840 we don't have to be so serious. Why so serious, Victor? There 23 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,439 are places that people can go if all you want to do, No, 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,519 that's not true. If mostly what you want to do is talk hokey and 25 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:57,599 a little bit of shenanigans too, we leave that open for people. You 26 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,599 can join our discord server. It's free. We have a free discord server 27 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,760 and all you have to do is email us Fantasy HOCKEYLFE at gmail dot com 28 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:12,199 or hit one of us up on x at fan Hockey Life or at Victor 29 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Nuno twelve. There's always stuff hopping as we get toward the end of the 30 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,800 fantasy hockey season, a lot of people putting up there. What do you 31 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,240 think of this trade? What do you think of that trade, getting advice 32 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,960 from very knowledgeable people who like to tune in and support their opinions. So 33 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,479 that is a cool thing that people could do. And if you're really like, 34 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,520 oh man, it's time for me to sell, it's the deadline. 35 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,479 I need to know whether I should value certain prospects highly, what I should 36 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,639 do, what I should do with draft picks. You can always look at 37 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,840 some of the cool stuff in the patreon victor tell them about that. Yeah, 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,599 lots of great stuff with the Patreon. We have patroon cast. We 39 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:53,879 have the ability to play in the tidy, which is getting going here with 40 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:58,960 the playoffs, and we certainly have a wait list. Starting for next season, 41 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:01,879 we'll be opening a new so that'll be really fun. And you have 42 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,240 access to the prospect ranks. You can have one on one sort of session 43 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,080 with one of us to help figure out what to do with your team, 44 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:15,560 or you know, get some personalized advice. There's also the ability to DM. 45 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:20,400 I know a lot of people know this that your league mates are everywhere, 46 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:24,759 so it's hard. It's hard to get some unbiased opinions about trades and 47 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,639 what to do with teams, and that's something you can do. So if 48 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,319 you're interested in any of that. You want to support the show, you 49 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,240 can do that at patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey Life. I'll tell you 50 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,919 what. There was a guy in there this week asking to join the tidy, 51 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,960 asking if there's a way you can get in. That guy warms the 52 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,919 hackles of my cold heart, Fctor. If somebody is in February asking to 53 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,560 join a league, knowing that in February a team you're picking up is probably 54 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,039 not the best team. That guy is the new of MVP, as far 55 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,360 as I'm concerned, very good on that. People are already ready to start 56 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,280 thinking about joining next year, and we will expand we will have replacements. 57 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:10,199 There will be opportunities, Victor, Today is the day I've been waiting for. 58 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,719 It's a day I've been selling to my friends. We're going to be 59 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:21,319 doing something a little bit different. We welcome to the show a man who 60 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:27,319 knows his NHL rookie Draft. It is Hattie Callikesh of Dabber Prospects. Hattie, 61 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:30,439 how you doing, I'm doing very good? How about you? Good 62 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,399 good today, sir? We are doing a different kind of rookie draft preview. 63 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:38,560 Someone say that this was the role I was born to play. I'm 64 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,720 gonna play dumb and my friends. I have a number of friends who you 65 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,319 know, and some of our listeners are approaching this topic. They're not as 66 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,519 familiar with the subject matter. We could go back and forth and just get 67 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,480 into the depth about some of these guys, but we're going to try to 68 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:56,720 take it down a notch, take it back a notch, and say, 69 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,720 if you're just getting into this rookie draft, you're just getting to know this 70 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:04,240 play, what is the basic trajectory and shape of this twenty twenty four NHL 71 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,879 rookie draft that we're going to watch in the summer and then we're going to 72 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,879 be drafting players in the fall because people need to start preparing, need to 73 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:14,959 start trading for draft picks, all of those types of things. And I 74 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,879 am going to effectively be interviewing Hattie and also Victor to some extent. Victor 75 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,439 has got some good observations. He's going to bring it in as well. 76 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,759 Hattie, are you up for this unusual exercise? Absolutely? Always am. 77 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Hatti's a good sport, all right. I will start out with the obvious 78 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,000 question that the listeners are going to want to know, just briefly, who 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,240 are the really elite top names in the twenty twenty four NHL Draft? What 80 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,399 optimistic future projections would you have on them? I know that we're going to 81 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,879 start here. Probably, I'm guessing that your number one is going to be 82 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,600 maclan Celebrini. Tell us a little about where he fits in. Yeah, 83 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,519 so Celebrini is by far and away the best player in this draft. There 84 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,040 isn't There's a significant gap for maybe between one and two. And what makes 85 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,720 the Labrini really interesting is just that there are so many different areas of his 86 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:09,000 game that can hit. He's already just a lethal rush scorer. He terrifies 87 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,800 defenses off the rush. He's constantly attacking downhill, attacking opponents feet off the 88 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,399 rush, cutting inside, slowing down the pace and speeding it back up. 89 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,120 His understanding of how to use his feet is just out of this world. 90 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,279 On top of that, he's added the cycle game to his play. He's 91 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,079 able to hit and get involved on the ford check and lift sticks and cut 92 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 inside that kind of stuff. So there are just so many different areas of 93 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,920 Celebrini's game that can become NHL tools or that already are. So he's just 94 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,839 such an already well rounded player with the upside as a shooter, as a 95 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,879 passer, as a stick handler, and as a rush chance creator to become 96 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:48,839 one of the best players off the rush in the NHL. After that, 97 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:54,040 you have Ivan Demidov, who you know. With Demetov, what's really interesting 98 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,680 is he's by far and away the best tick handler in this draft, and 99 00:06:56,759 --> 00:07:00,680 he's got insane vision off the rush as well. He's able to feel pressure 100 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,720 on his back and feel the fourth man on the off the rush really well. 101 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:08,519 And beyond that, he just he's the only player I've ever really seen 102 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:13,160 since I've started scouting that reminds me of Pavo Doatsuk in terms of just wriggling 103 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:18,600 out of pressure, ridiculously finding ways to just escape the smallest gaps. Escape 104 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 through the smallest gaps, and he'll be surrounded by three guys, he'll find 105 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,879 a way to go through them and throw a pass pinpoint on teamate stick. 106 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:30,000 But also has that defensive element. He's not really refined on that end, 107 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,680 but the effort is there, the engagement is there, and in the NHL 108 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:38,279 he it's already clear that his positioning is ahead of his peers. Now it's 109 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:41,800 not a KHL level tool, let alone an NHL level tool yet, but 110 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:45,639 he can get there. He's got the foundations for it on top of being 111 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,360 a real good offensive piece. And then you've got a bunch of defensemen. 112 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:50,959 You can get into those as well. But I'd say still bring in dimidolv 113 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,399 Er two for me, the two kind of jewels of the straft in terms 114 00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:59,000 of elite potential, elite talent, and victor. I know you had some 115 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:03,560 thoughts about where these guys might place as people are trying to contextualize and figure 116 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,800 out where these guys will fall in the fantasy hockey landscape, especially into the 117 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:13,720 future. I know you had some observations there. Yeah, I think we're 118 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,279 going to get into the defenseman soon, and I definitely I'll spill the beans 119 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,959 a little bit. I do think this is a great draft to get a 120 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,199 defenseman for lots of teams, which isn't always the case. But the forwards 121 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:28,360 that HATI mentioned are all world and so a lot of people tend to like 122 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:33,159 to get their forwards, and I know some people who kind of don't favor 123 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,200 defenseman as much for fancy because they just they do take a little bit longer 124 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,919 that is true, but there aren't as many super high end forwards, but 125 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,080 the two that Hati mentioned are just amazing. The thing about Celebrini is that's 126 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,559 not really a choice for most people because you either have number one or you're 127 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,200 not getting Celebrini basically, So if you have number one, your decision is 128 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,759 very easy. And his comps are insane. He's like breaking Mason Black's chart 129 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,000 because his P and HI right now is one hundred twenty three, I think 130 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,279 as I'm looking at it right now, So it's just it's insane. All 131 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,039 of his comps are superstars, Hall of famers. But Demidov is a little 132 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,679 bit more interesting because his equivalency is really high if you look at the Hockey 133 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Prospecting Model. But we know that MHL league is wonky and some of the 134 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,320 competition is just poor and he's just toying with them on a nightly basis, 135 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,960 and I would just love to see him in the KHL because we've learned a 136 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,240 lot more. I'm sure Howdy can agree that we just it's hard to know 137 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,279 exactly how everything's going to transit. It looks like it will, just the 138 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,279 way that he the skills that he has is how he mentioned, but we 139 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,320 don't really know the answer to that. So that's what I'm most interested to 140 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,240 find out about Demodov is what he can do. And one thing that I 141 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,399 wanted to point out is that there's a lot of player comps here. A 142 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,240 lot of them forv Demidov or are insane. They're the same as Celebrini is 143 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:58,840 basically like Gretzky, McDavid Hughes, Patrick Kine. But if you look at 144 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,799 Chase McCollums car he has some really interesting more I think, I would say 145 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,720 realistic comps for guys like this, and a couple of the ones that he 146 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,440 looks a little bit more like in this model are like Maverick Bork, Matti 147 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:16,159 Benier's Joshua was saying, and so some of these kind of when you read 148 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,960 all these, you take a step back and say, Okay, these aren't 149 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,519 as like amazing as some of the other ones. So I think it gives 150 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:28,159 you just a little bit more perspective on I think the range of outcomes for 151 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,279 Demidov is just much much higher, whereas with Celebrini, he's a one or 152 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,080 two seed, but most likely just a one seed that's going to plan in 153 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,080 the NHL for a decade and you don't really have a lot of questions about 154 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:45,080 his production. But with Demodov, there are some questions and there's some potential 155 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,320 for bust. It's not very high, I would say, but since we 156 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,720 haven't seen it against a higher quality of competition, I think they're just a 157 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,159 little bit more worry in the sense of maybe this isn't going to be amazing, 158 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,559 like if everything doesn't translate perfectly well, I don't know if thoughts on 159 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,679 that. Hotey, Oh, for sure. With Celebrini, he's pretty much 160 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,480 a plug and play and he's a player who I wouldn't put in the obviously 161 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,720 the BEDARDA, McDavid and Matthews category, but I put him in the kind 162 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:15,120 of notch just under that the Stamkosis and he Shures and those kinds of players. 163 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,919 And I wouldn't say he's a generational prospect, but he's definitely a player 164 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:24,279 who is a very safe bet to score over eighty points eighty points a season, 165 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:28,159 like he's got that potential and just a really really mature game for his 166 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,120 age. I mean at the World Juniors he was Canada's best player. With 167 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,120 bu he's their best player wherever he plays, he just takes control of the 168 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,919 team and dominates the tempo of it. And when you have a player that 169 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:41,480 understands tempo that it's really good for his game to get in the NHL right 170 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,240 away because that's where you tempo is the most tested, and he needs that 171 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:48,879 test already, like he's too good for the NCAA. So the next step 172 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,440 is there. With Demidov. I think it's not only the fact that he's 173 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,000 toying with his competition right now. For me, of the main issue is 174 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,600 what is he learning in the NHL right now? The answer is not that 175 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,960 much. There There isn't a survival barrier for him that he say that he 176 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,200 has to cross, that he has to learn to overcome in order to thrive 177 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,919 and evolve as a player. He's just doing his thing. But it's really 178 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,519 fun to watch him put up two and a half points a game in the 179 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:18,879 MHL. It's fun to watch. I just I don't know about how much 180 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:20,879 that's good for his game. But overall, I'm not too worried because Demodov 181 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,799 has really good adaptability and I don't think he will have much of an issue 182 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,799 once he gets to the KHL regular time, I don't think he's gonna have 183 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,720 much of an issue really adapting to that style, adapting to what the circumstances 184 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,639 are there, the added pressure, the more physical play, the additional along 185 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,919 the board touches that you get in the GHL. I think that he won't 186 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:45,519 have much of an issue with that because he's so good with his back to 187 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,159 the play. Like I said, he can just feel pressure on its back 188 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:50,840 really well and understand what move to pull off to get off the boards. 189 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,519 Overall, I'm not too worried about Demodov's projection, as he claims climbs the 190 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:00,200 ranks, but definitely Celebrini has elements to his game that put him in that 191 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:03,080 plugging play scenario, where as Demidov, i'd say, is about two maybe 192 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,360 three years away, so there's a statificant gap there. And also we can 193 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:07,879 get into the defenseman. They're really fun for this class. I don't know 194 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,480 if any one of them is going to be ready next year, but they're 195 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,360 still fun to talk about. Yeah, that's definitely the next place I want 196 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:18,840 to stop. We know some drafts are heavy in one position, summer in 197 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,159 others. I look back at twenty twenty two, I remember that was a 198 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,159 year Victor was really preaching, go for the defenseman. You had Simon nmech 199 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,120 David, You're at Chick, Kevin Korchinski, Pavelo, Minchikov, all go 200 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,440 right there in the top ten picks and some other guys even probably who will 201 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,960 make a pick an impact later on. So I'm hearing Victor, and I'm 202 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,440 also hearing you Hatty say that this is a good year for defenseman after maybe 203 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:48,120 those first two forwards, correct me. If it's further down, then the 204 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:52,440 top two forward or further down then pass forward three. But how do these 205 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,759 top defensemen this year? Who are they and how do they compare to recent 206 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,360 years drafts? Depending on who he asks, You're gonna have different opinions on 207 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,600 that. Now, Well, for me at three and four, after celebrating 208 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:05,159 the meat off, I have Zang Perek and Zev Buyam for me, the 209 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,480 two with the most offensive upside in this draft. But there are about three 210 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,440 or four names that are other than those that are also in this conversation. 211 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,039 We have Sam Dickinson, who's a big, safe, left handed defenseman who 212 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:22,679 plays really good defensively but still needs to learn how to make effective decisions. 213 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:24,519 Who's also in that conversation. He's playing in Michigan State right now, is 214 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,440 a big right handed defenseman. He's putting up over a point per game in 215 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,000 the SaaS a rookie, which is obviously very interesting. But he's another player 216 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,240 who has a combination of fluidity and purpose and drive in his game that's really 217 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,840 interesting, but the decision making is really inconsistent, although I will say recent 218 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:45,559 viewings have been a lot more optimistic on that side. And then you can 219 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,720 get into Anton Salaiev, who's the biggest player in this draft at six seven 220 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,519 to two oh six, big left handed defenseman playing in the KHL right now. 221 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,159 Top four minutes in the KHL, which isn't easy, and he's handling 222 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,600 them pretty well. But I'm a bit more skeptical with him. I've seen 223 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,720 him in the top two, top three on a lot of drafts. He's 224 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:07,519 thirteenth on my board. And yeah, he's another player who is panicky with 225 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,480 the puck, either at the offensive blue line or in his own zone. 226 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:15,200 Just panics a tiny bit and throws pucks up the first lady seas just to 227 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,240 get himself out of trouble instead of thinking his way out of trouble. So 228 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,000 that's one kind of qualm I hav in his game. But a six foot 229 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:26,440 seven player should not be able to move like Saliv does. He is extremely 230 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:31,080 fluid. His backwards skating is ridiculous. I think if he's developed well, 231 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,600 he can become the best gap closer in world hockey. Like he can close 232 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,320 gaps already with so much effectiveness, and if you add, if you teach 233 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,399 him a bit of composure, a bit of poise, if he can turn 234 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:48,000 those that effective gap closing into puck retrievals and then offensive transitions, now we're 235 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,159 talking perhaps a top pair defenseman. But it's a really tough thing to teach. 236 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,559 I've watched Justin barn since his draft year and that's always been his issue 237 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,960 and that's never gone anywhere. He's still extremely panicky, So it's a difficult 238 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,039 thing to teach out of a player you need to you essentially need to have 239 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:08,120 a high panic threshold from the start, and Saliv doesn't have that. But 240 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,840 yeah, that's the kind of glut of defensemen that I say are almost certainly 241 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,840 going to be gone by ten And you can put him in any order, 242 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,399 depend on depending on which scout you ask. A lot of them will have 243 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,519 to live and lift Shinoff at the top, then a bunch of guys in 244 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:25,320 Saint Perek at the end. I prefer z ain't Perek, just because I've 245 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,799 seen nothing in his game that indicates to me that there's an issue with his 246 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,200 defensive game. I think that's been overblown and he's the most poised and creative 247 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,639 offensive defenseman I've seen in a long while, like at least since Luke Ques, 248 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:40,720 and maybe even then he might be a bit more creative and poised with 249 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:42,559 the puck. There's a lot of upside with this kid. I think that 250 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,759 the best case scenario with Perek is you have a point per game offensive defenseman. 251 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,639 That's the ceiling, but the floor is a bit contentious. I still 252 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:55,000 think that there's enough there with Perek that he's worth the swing at three. 253 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Yeah, and that point per game is an extremely important point. And I 254 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,600 don't know if the if you have thoughts because some of these guys, nhlgms 255 00:17:03,639 --> 00:17:07,599 are going to value a guy who can play those top minutes. If you 256 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,400 thought you could get Jacob Slaven at this point in the draft, you would 257 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,160 be just over the moon. I would think as an NHL GM as a 258 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,119 Fantasy GM, probably a little less so because old Jacob Slaven the things that 259 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,119 he does great doesn't necessarily translate to the game that we're playing. But a 260 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,400 victor, what do you react to with this top defensive class? You said 261 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,319 you love it? Right, Yeah, there's a lot, And I definitely 262 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,559 think that the best fantasy defenseman is not going to be the first one taken 263 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:40,119 on draft day. I think, as Hotti mentioned, guys like Sam Dickinson 264 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,839 just has such a projectable profile, the way that he's already playing, the 265 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:48,000 way he skates, the way he defends like he he might go first Salia 266 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,079 with the he's so raw, but the physical tools are insane, like the 267 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,119 skating and size. You just people if someone's gonna take a chance on him 268 00:17:56,319 --> 00:18:00,920 relatively early and bet that they can mold in, to mold him into the 269 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,000 next cident of Chawa basically, and all those other things that need to work 270 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,119 need work, will come and that's the bat that they'll take. But yeah, 271 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,880 I don't think those guys are going to be super good in fantasy. 272 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,480 I definitely agree that the two best for me are PreK and Bulliam and their 273 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,599 equivalencies, right, now are totally insane, Like they're both the p and 274 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,319 H Leaves are both over one hundred. And the thing I like most about 275 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:26,559 Bulliam and I like both these guys, it's hard to choose. They're a 276 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,039 little different. But the thing I like about Bulliam is that he's playing in 277 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,839 college a more difficult level. You saw him at the World Juniors like he 278 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:40,720 was. They were talking about how small and undersized and how young in some 279 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:44,359 respects like Bullyam the blue line was for the Americans, and he was at 280 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,359 times their best defenseman. It was crazy like how good he was and under 281 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,079 pressure, his skating and his Physicality's not the biggest guy, but he used 282 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:56,000 his physicality, not over like he doesn't chase hits or anything like that, 283 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,240 but he knows how to separate players from the puck. And I think the 284 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,799 other thing about William is he keeps getting better too throughout the year, and 285 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,519 he's just trending up and up and up. So you love to see that 286 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:12,839 from a from any player in the draft. And so I'm a little skeptical 287 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,119 just because Denver is such a good team and they win a lot and score 288 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,559 a lot, But I don't think you can hold that against him either, 289 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,839 that's not his fault and he's doing what he needs to do. I think 290 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:30,200 that maybe there's less dynamic ability with Bulliam, but it's just overall so consistent 291 00:19:30,279 --> 00:19:34,680 and he just makes such good plays that's very projectable. With Perrek, I 292 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:41,519 think there's some lessons here with the previous Saganaw defenseman that was so amazing in 293 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:47,720 Minschikov, in the sense that they I see some similarities just in the way 294 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:49,839 that they have this care free way that they play and they try a lot 295 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:55,000 of things, and Saganaw I think supports that, which is great. Like 296 00:19:55,079 --> 00:20:00,359 I think the system that they play enables players to be free and just have 297 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,160 fun and try things and prick doing that, and it's really cool. And 298 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,799 so the question is can he be rained in a little bit and taught to 299 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:11,160 be a little bit more consistent and safe, And I'm sure that he can't. 300 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,720 That's not a hard thing to do. That's what is hard is to 301 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:19,400 teach someone like Sam Dickinson to be dynamic and exciting and make these crazy, 302 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,839 insane plays that PreK is doing. I don't think that's going to happen. 303 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:27,079 You take PreK for what he is and you know that you can probably mold 304 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,839 him into raining it in a little bit, being a little bit more safe, 305 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,359 and I think you have, like Potty said pop point per game defenseman, 306 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200 I don't know. I'm going to have a hard time passing at PreK 307 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:45,039 if I draft in the three to five range and fantasy, just because the 308 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,640 upside is crazy, Like what forward? There are a couple forwards, but 309 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,200 there aren't too many forwards that have more upside even than PreK after the first 310 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,640 two that we mentioned, Demidoph and Celebrinis. So yeah, I think it'd 311 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,240 be hard to pass on him in that range. Thoughts on that, how 312 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920 do you guys? I heard you reacting to some of that. Oh, 313 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,079 for sure, Zee William is really fun. I think I can start there. 314 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,359 He's really enjoyable to watch because there's a fluidity to his game. Even 315 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,160 though he's not a good I wouldn't call him a great skater, he's a 316 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,920 good skater. The lateral agility concerns me sometimes, and for a guy who 317 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,440 loves to move laterally so much, I feel like if he can improve his 318 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:27,720 edgework on lateral moves like that's terrifying. He's already so good at it that 319 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:32,440 like, if you add that next layer to his game, he becomes even 320 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,279 better. Here reminds me of Dentson Matteichuk. Sometimes. It's just really funny 321 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:38,440 that she brought brought up Pavelo Minchikov as a comparable to Zaint Perrek because they 322 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,359 both went pretty much back to back in their draft years, right, And 323 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,160 yeah, those two are fairly comparable to me, and we saw it, 324 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,880 like you mentioned with Minchikov, you know, raining him back was easy and 325 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,920 actually brought out an element of his game that wasn't a strength up until he 326 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,319 reached the NHL, which is his ability to discourage passes off the rush. 327 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,519 So somehow, sometimes you'll watch him pinch, you're you're like, what are 328 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:07,000 you doing? But then you realize that all he's doing is just discouraging a 329 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,519 pass that would aid the offensive transition for the opponent. Right, So he's 330 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:14,119 not pinching in order to pressure of a puck carrier. He's pinching just to 331 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,440 put himself in the lane between the puck carrier and the pass of this along 332 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,400 the boards, for example. So it's just a fake pinch. It's like 333 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,200 a pump fake that he does, and it just fully prevents a pass going 334 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:27,000 that way and forces a play towards the other side of the ice, and 335 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:30,119 that gives him time to then react, come back with his excellent skating and 336 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,720 make a play, which is This is something I could definitely see Zane correct 337 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,920 picking up and adding to his game and raining in a player like that and 338 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,559 making sure that he adds these elements to his game, like you said, 339 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:47,440 is so much easier than taking a Sam Dickinson and making an offensive dynamo out 340 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,759 of him. That's as much as I love Sam Dickinson, as much as 341 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:53,720 I love his skating and edgework and his defensive game and his breakout passing. 342 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,880 He'll join the rush and he'll take a shot, but he's not going to 343 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,759 dangle through two guys hit the net to score a backhand between the legs. 344 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:06,680 That's not his game. He's more of a meat and potatoes. He's a 345 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,519 meat and potatoes player who has in Parect's a bit more of a Michelin star 346 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,279 dish with Dickinson. If you're an NHL, if you're an NHL team, 347 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,440 meat and potatoes, you'll eat that. It's not overly complicated, but it'll 348 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,319 feed you with zain't Perrek. It'll be the most delicious thing you've ever seen, 349 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,960 but sometimes you're still hungry. That's the difference between them for me. 350 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:27,200 So it's intricate, but I find it really interesting, and it was ain't 351 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,319 Perek after this, Like Victor said, I don't even for points only. 352 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,680 I can't name you that many forwards in this class after Perrek that have a 353 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,279 point per game upside. Maybe a Berkeley Catton I would say, is probably 354 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,880 in there. But Cole Aija gonna have a twelfth overall. And I've soured 355 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,240 a lot on this game, and I think he has thirty to forty goal 356 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,680 upside, But eighty points, No, that's looking less realistic by the day 357 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:57,519 with Eijamin all right, And I think there should be a podcast called the 358 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:03,319 Fantasy Foodies. I like this. I like this whole thought process. It 359 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,240 sounds like we really have kind of a bumper crop of defenseman right before there, 360 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,160 Victor, do you have other guys that you would throw in aside from 361 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:15,839 this first group that we have, or other forwards that maybe are just right 362 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,880 in that next tier. Yeah, I think Hatty just mentioned Cole Eijerman. 363 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,279 I think we might as well talk about him because he is someone worth discussing 364 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:32,319 and has an insanely good shot, but everything else about his game is has 365 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,279 some questions, And as Otty said, he could score thirty thirty five goals 366 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,559 and end up with fifty five points and then you're like, that's disappointing because 367 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,279 you know you obviously need the assist to get to a more fantasy relevant And 368 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,079 from what I understand, some of his playmaking has gotten better. And it's 369 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,200 not like he's uninvolved defensively, like he's not a complete train rack. It's 370 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,960 just it he doesn't really do much before getting in position to shoot, because 371 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,319 that's really what he's good at. But I also think that's what he's being 372 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,480 asked to do, is go score, because that's what you're good at. 373 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,519 I was curious, so I just wanted to pull up comparisons to the other 374 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:15,880 cool caw Field, and I know you have a lot of thoughts on him, 375 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,640 Hadi, and they're not the same player. Cawfield is a much more 376 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,079 I'll that you talk about Caffield, but he's actually quite a bit smaller. 377 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,400 As we know, Ierman doesn't have the size issues. He's six foot col 378 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,960 caugh Field five foot seven, but Cawfield also had the shot and there are 379 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,839 questions about him and he fell, And I think there might be some rhymes 380 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,880 here because Cole Eiserman will probably seems like he might fall in this draft, 381 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,880 maybe for different reasons, but the upside is huge. So in their draft 382 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:48,319 seasons, the equivalency is higher for Ierman at seventy two percent star potential, 383 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:49,720 and they both play at the us n TDP, which I think there's some 384 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:53,279 fun rhymes here, so that the equivalency is a bit higher for Ierman, 385 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:57,680 but obviously we know a little bit about what's happening with Cole. I also 386 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,119 picked up some of the so some of the comps for Iiserman are Keller and 387 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,960 Vincent Lecavalier, which obviously would be amazing outcomes. And then I looked at 388 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:11,160 Chase mccullums Graf and he has some other comps like Jeff Skinner, Jacob Parrot 389 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,279 that one hadn't worked out so well, Jordan Everley Chas Lucius still to be 390 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:21,319 determined but doesn't look super great, and then Dylan Gunther's and Keep Ferbeller's Oliver 391 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,759 Walstrom. These are the usn TDB busts that people often talk about the guys 392 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,240 that didn't really quite make it. Why don't you tell us a little bit 393 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,279 about these comparisons and what why We might want to wait a little bit on 394 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,519 Iiserman, but there still might also be some value there, right, Yeah, 395 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,440 for sure. The names I keep coming back to when I'm watching Cole 396 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,920 Isiam mainly I think about Oliver Wallstrom, Arthur Khaliev, Jacob Parrot. As 397 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,480 you mentioned, these are guys who I understand why there's a hesitancy with Iiserman. 398 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,640 But there's a reason why I'm so torn with Ijaman is because he has 399 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,559 something that these guys didn't. These guys were all good off puck movers that 400 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,359 found offensive really well and used their shot really well, but didn't have much 401 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,440 to surround and uplift that skill set. But with Eisaman, there's one thing 402 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,759 that is really particular in his game that I think he has that none other 403 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,880 of the players I just mentioned had, and it's his ability to consistently drive 404 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,200 the net and make himself an option for a tip for a rebound. He's 405 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,119 a player who drives the net relentlessly and consistently miss Brown and the elite prospects 406 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:29,519 rankings video called him a one second player in terms of in the second before 407 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,480 he gets a pass up until the second after he shoots it, he's the 408 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,920 best player in this draft. Everything outside of that, he's probably in the 409 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240 thirty to forty range. Like, the playmaking is decent but not overwhelming. 410 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,160 The defensive game, it's not nonexistent, but it's definitely not where it should 411 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,559 be at this stage. There's a lot of, you know, catching up 412 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,279 to do on that side. Even the physical game. He's six foot almost 413 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,200 two hundred pounds. He's built like a tree stump, but doesn't use it 414 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,599 all that He's mainly just absent mindedly leaning on the first shoulder that comes his 415 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,319 way and trying to find a way to create off that instead of just leveraging 416 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,440 his weight properly. And yeah, overall, there's a lot of concerns. 417 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,519 But the one thing that keeps nagging at the back of my head that makes 418 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,799 me think, ooh, you might regret ranking him twelfth overall is that consistent 419 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,839 willingness and drive for the net. That that's a thing that keeps coming back 420 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,960 to my mind as like a just like a little scouting bug at the back 421 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,640 of my head. That just keeps nagging at me. But I'm having a 422 00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:30,880 lot of trouble with Isiaman in my viewings because the games he's played with Hagens 423 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,559 he's been worse than the games he's played with Baneric and Stiga and Brodie Ziemer 424 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,519 and those guys. It's so confusing to me because Hagen's is such a good 425 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:45,359 offensive transition player. He takes the brunt of offensive transitions and consistively finds players 426 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,839 in stride. And the fact that Eisaman has struggled more with Hagens in my 427 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,160 viewings and with other guys, that makes me wonder how effective he'll be at 428 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,559 the top of a lineup with players that are of that caliber. Whereas with 429 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:02,880 Cold Kawfield, Cawfield was Cawfield learned everything you needed to learn as a five 430 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,200 foot six, one hundred and forty pound player in order to overcome those size 431 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,400 discrepancies, and there are a competitive advantage here. Isiaman never really had to 432 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,000 learn much because he's always been heavier than a lot of people, so he's 433 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,039 never had to learn those adaptive skills, that ability to separate in space, 434 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,240 that ability to go from reception to shot in a millisecond when the pass is 435 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:27,480 not cleaning your wheelhouse. There's a lot of things that Cole Cawfield learned in 436 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,559 spite of his size, and actually because of his size, that Isamin never 437 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,480 has had to learn. So for me, there's a gap there between my 438 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,319 evaluation of the two. Cawfield has a lot to his game that Isiamin doesn't. 439 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,359 But at the end of the day, like I said, he's a 440 00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:44,039 player I'm really torn on and I might just flip around on at the end 441 00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:48,200 of the draft if I see enough viewings that kind of confirm the doubts that 442 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400 I'm having. But for the moment, he's at twelve for me, Yeah, 443 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680 I absolutely loved that. When Mitch said that too, that really stood 444 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,720 out to me because, and I think it's worth saying a little bit more 445 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:03,039 because it was some of these USNTDP guys. The team is like an all 446 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,960 star team, right, so they have a lot of talent, and so 447 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,839 some of the forwards can look really good even though they don't work so hard 448 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,079 to score. And I think that was the case with Bellows and Wallstrom, 449 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,279 whereas Iiserman even though he is really talented, and some of the other forwards 450 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,200 like you mentioned he in particular works really hard and finds that soft spot really 451 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,640 well. He works hard in that second or two right before he scores or 452 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,559 gets a good shot off, because that's what he's really good at, and 453 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,359 he gets to the high danger scoring areas a lot more and it's a little 454 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:37,359 bit easier in the sense of the size. So although I agree with you, 455 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 he hasn't had to work on other parts of his games. I was 456 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,799 listening. I forget who the interview was, but it was one of the 457 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:47,880 other draft eligible prospects and they were talking about how they played against Izerman when 458 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,319 he was when they were like eight or nine, and how Eiserman was already 459 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:55,079 bigger and better than everyone else, and like you said, when you're already 460 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,480 that, you tend not to have to work on certain parts of your game 461 00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:02,759 because it's just so much better everyone else. I wanted to ask you about 462 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,240 some of the other defensemen. There's so many defensemen and I don't think we're 463 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,640 going to have time to cover all of them. But there's two in particular 464 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,200 that I think are going to be very interesting, and that's because they're both 465 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160 injured. Right. So, Adam kV Harre, you and Aaron Are sorry. 466 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Adam Herecheck and Aaron kV harre You both coming into this season, people 467 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,519 were thinking top ten, maybe even top five picks. They look really good. 468 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,799 Obviously, we know Adam's brother, David ear Check, was drafted pretty 469 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:36,680 high and is on the borderline of breaking into the NHL, and he's got 470 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,359 good size as well, six two, one hundred and seventy pounds. I 471 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240 think what's different about Adam though, too, is that he's really he's even 472 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,000 younger. David was old for his age and Adam is young, but like 473 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:48,920 his brother, suffered an injury at the World Junior again to his knee. 474 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,880 Just terrible stuff. But he also wasn't scoring even though he was playing in 475 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,559 the top check league. And then kV harre You is a little bit older 476 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,720 for the draft class, but he has some size issues at five to ten 477 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,160 hundred and sixty five. But he was playing in the Liga last season and 478 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,119 this season, but unfortunately had an injury there. So these two I think 479 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,480 are interesting because I think they have some pretty good upside, but we don't 480 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680 really know how their draft season went right, at least not fully, so 481 00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:20,480 they might slide a little bit and that could present some really good value too 482 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,160 for fantasy Police. Tell us a little bit about those two for sure. 483 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,400 So I still have Adamirchek ranked fourteenth to spite everything. I also have r 484 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,039 on Qv Harry at twenty third. These are two players who are fundamentally different 485 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:35,480 for me. Adam Irachek for a player who's six' one one fifty, 486 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,519 he's extremely violent even in the Czech Pro League. Like he he won't necessarily 487 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,559 chase hits, but any time he has an opportunity to lay the shoulder into 488 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:47,240 a player hard, no matter what position they're in along the boards, it 489 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,279 doesn't matter to him, He'll try it. He's also really good at feeling 490 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,759 pressure on his back. He's really good at spinning off of pressure and making 491 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:58,839 a quick pass. I just don't think there's all that much creativity and awareness 492 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,839 to his game on the with the play in front of him, but he's 493 00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:06,599 got enough tools there to develop into a really effective i'd say, second pair, 494 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,279 two way defenseman. I like the breakoup passing. I like that the 495 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:14,279 simple and easy plays he makes, and I like the way he joins the 496 00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:17,079 rush occasionally and tries things. I just he's very different from David Eearcheck. 497 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,720 David Earcheck was all tools. This is a player who was massive, had 498 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:28,720 a huge reach, a booming shot, great hands, really overwhelming forward skating 499 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,599 off the rush as well. Their check's a bit more intricate and refined than 500 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,519 that. In terms of his overall decision making, I'd say he's less raw 501 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,759 mentally, whereas David ear Check was less raw physically. Year Check has a 502 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:43,960 lot of weight to add, definitely some core strength as well. You can 503 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920 tell that when he's skating it's it's like there's a lack of power in a 504 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,759 stride, so there's weight to add. There's a muscle to add there that 505 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,200 can make him a really effective skate or a really effective checker and hitter and 506 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,799 gap closer. Overall, I think there's still really solid second can line upside 507 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,039 with eer A Check. I just I've heard some people say that he's got 508 00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:07,519 top pair upside and that it could be a really good power play defenceman. 509 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:12,039 I don't really see it all that much. And the knee injury kind of 510 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,119 throws a wrench in things because if it is the type of injury that it 511 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,960 seemed to be, this is a type of injury that can reroute a career 512 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840 and make you play a completely different style. It's a big risk, but 513 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,880 I think there's enough upside there with your check and enough certainty as well to 514 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,119 make him wor at the top fifteen pick. Whereas with kiv Harry, he's 515 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,800 excellent at two things, the processing and the breakout like in terms of his 516 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,599 passing ability. Outside of that, there's a lot of inconsistencies in this game, 517 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,400 and he's the one player that I'd say people talk about Zane Perrek being 518 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:47,440 in the mold of Eric Branstrom and the types of defensemen that were drafted in 519 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,000 the first round that ended up not panning out. I'd say kiv Harry's a 520 00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,400 lot more in that boat than zat Perek. Qv Haru resembles a lot more 521 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,400 player like Eric Branston than Zane Perrect does. So that's where the concern is 522 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,760 for me. But if you can develop them well, if you can teach 523 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,039 them the right things, you've got an excellent skater and an excellent great breakout 524 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,239 passer who can if you bring him up to just an average level defensively, 525 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,360 physically and in terms of overall decision making, then you've got a second pair 526 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,000 of defenseman. I just think that the risk is higher with qv Har. 527 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,880 You for sure them with your check. That's how i'd say it. Yeah, 528 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,559 and I'm not chasing either of these guys, but I am really hoping 529 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,239 that your check falls, and mainly I'm more interested in him. But I 530 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,280 definitely think that if you have a mid first round pick, or depending on 531 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719 how the size of your league it might if he ends up going fourteen sixteen 532 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,760 something like that, could you could end up getting him in that range and 533 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000 that could end up being really good. Just keep an eye on that. 534 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,360 All right, very good. We've gone over some of the top names in 535 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,880 this draft, especially some of this bumper crop up defenseman. We're going to 536 00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,920 take a break, come back and ask a few more questions. See you 537 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:10,079 have some ranks only all right, have some. I'm gonna move around some 538 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:15,880 of these questions we've talked about because just the way it's flowing. I think 539 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,800 we've talked about that top two forward group. We've talked about Isserman being there 540 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:24,039 as that other forward unique prospect up there, and a lot of the defensemen. 541 00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:29,360 Do you think that there are major tear drops in this draft pool? 542 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,199 Was there a group of guys and then beyond which there's a big drop. 543 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,719 I heard one prospect watcher on a recent podcast say right around fifteen there might 544 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,840 be a big drop in the talent pool of the draft, or observers are 545 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,360 saying that, do you have you heard anything like that? Do you observe 546 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:52,519 anything that there are some some continental shelf drops. Yeah, I'd say there's 547 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,760 a clear top nine for me right now, and that could move to ten 548 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,079 if Cole Eiserman picked things up. But for me, there's a clear top 549 00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,039 nine. I wouldn't say there's a massive drop after fifteen because for me, 550 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:08,119 even after fifteen, I've still got guys like Nikita Artomanov, Tijaginmla Andrbasha Igor 551 00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:14,119 Chernishev, Trek Parasak I'm a huge fan of, and obviously Luke Misa. 552 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,039 These are all players I have in the sixty and a twenty two range. 553 00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:22,119 But I'd say there's a significant gap. I'd say between twenty two and twenty 554 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,199 three once you had twenty three around TV. Haryu is the first player for 555 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:30,199 me at twenty third overall of a tier of about ten fifteen players, and 556 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,599 then it drops again. But I'd say that there's a clear first overall pick. 557 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,159 There's a two to nine and I'd say ten to twenty two is pretty 558 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:42,199 similar. But I would still say that there's a gap between fifteen and sixty 559 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,639 and for me between Connolly and Trevor Conley and Luke Misa Trevor Connley being the 560 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,679 last player of my third tier. Right, there are shelf drops. I 561 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,760 don't think they're as significant as people are making them out to be. But 562 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,960 at some point you hit a point in the rankings where you've run out of 563 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,840 the really interesting projects and you get into the either long shots or safe bets, 564 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,719 and that's i'd say around twenty three, that's where I'd say that's where 565 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,320 the kiv har Use, the carter Yakamchuk is. In that conversation Michael Hage, 566 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,920 there's a bunch of these names of players who just are either very safe 567 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,079 players or these high risk, high reward bets, whereas before that you've still 568 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:24,559 got a relative amount of safety with your middle six top six projection players before 569 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,199 I we'll talk about this more later, but your ranks are going up somewhere 570 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719 in the Dabber extended universe, right, are people are going to be able 571 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,239 to see these ranks that you have up there. Yeah, if these are 572 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480 my personal rankings, I post them on Twitter. But our Dubber Prospect team 573 00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:43,559 just finished up a scouting meet to discuss our midseason rankings. Our Midsitian rankings 574 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:47,400 should be out around the weekend of for the weekend after after Valentine's Day. 575 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,280 That should be around where we put them out. We've had some kind of 576 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,519 setbacks with that family emergencies and the scouting team, the kind of thing, 577 00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:57,920 but we're sorting things out. We should have those rankings out fairly soon. 578 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,519 And yeah, that's they're different than mys, my personal rankings, but we're 579 00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,599 really excited about those. Everyone's put in a lot of work, so we'll 580 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,440 get those out pretty soon. Yeah, and usually we do the promos at 581 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,880 the end, but I thought this was a good chance. As we're talking 582 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,480 through these numbers. People, if you want the home if you want the 583 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,280 book that goes with the tape like that we had when we were kids, 584 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,480 you can make sure that you're reading at his Twitter in checking these guys out 585 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:27,800 so you can see where these ranks break out. I'm curious. One of 586 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,800 the things we like to talk about on this show a lot is the different 587 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,719 leagues that come in and the way that we ought to take the way we 588 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,559 ought to take some of these players, and the stats they do. And 589 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:42,599 obviously there's different projections. We don't need to go through all of them. 590 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,320 But do you think that this year there is any particular source of talent that 591 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:53,760 is above or below usual producing top prospects or top strength of prospects. The 592 00:39:53,880 --> 00:40:00,480 WHL again is having Erika year. I'd also throw the NCAA there, because 593 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,760 it's pretty rare that we get three NCAA prospects. I mean, the last 594 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,000 time we saw that was the Michigan year with Beniers and Power and Lucus and 595 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,639 all that. But yeah, overall, I think this is a really good 596 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:15,880 group of WHL players. Kaiden Linstrom, Berkeley Catton and Tija Ginland, Drew 597 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,599 Basha Rider, Richie Trek Parasak. It's such a long, extensive list of 598 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480 WHL ers that are really interesting in this draft. Another week draft for the 599 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,199 QMJHL, but that's going to change next year, and a surprisingly weak draft 600 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:35,079 for suites. I have one suite in my top thirty two, so yeah, 601 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,559 I'd also say Finland's in there as well. They've got a couple of 602 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,239 really interesting guys, but overall, I say the WHL takes that cake. 603 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,559 Even the players that are a bit lower in the ranks, I haven't heard 604 00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,719 much. Many people throw a lot of praise and Miguel Marquez's way, and 605 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,519 he's been fantastic in recent viewings, and the USHL as well has been fairly 606 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,039 interesting. They have a couple of guys that say in my top forty that 607 00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:00,320 usually the USHL, other than the ANTDP, doesn't really create that much much 608 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,079 talent usually, but this year he got Michael Hages with the Chicago Steele, 609 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,920 Sasha Bovar playing with Muskegan along with Matview Greedon who's also in that on that 610 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,280 team, and a couple names that are just starting to pop up John Mustard 611 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,360 at Waterloo, which by the way, elite name, Like just a fantastic 612 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,800 name, John Mustard, and yeah, other guys like that. So overall, 613 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,559 like it's just it's really interesting to see the USHL rowden a pool, 614 00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:27,840 it's talent pool and not limit itself to being the ntdp's league. Right, 615 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,280 It's become a more well rounded league, which is good for everybody. Waterloo. 616 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,599 Yeah, yeah, that's back in my old stomping grounds where I grew 617 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,800 up. Yeah, Victor, any leagues that you're particularly excited about this year, 618 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,760 Yeah, I definitely agree with Hatty about the DUB has really been coming 619 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,800 on the last several years. And yeah, the OHL actually isn't super exciting 620 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,320 this year either. There but they have some some really good ones, so 621 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,480 that's good. But the depth maybe in terms of the forwards, it's it's 622 00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,000 less exciting, I guess, I would say. But the defensemen really good, 623 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,639 and I also, yeah, I also think it's interesting they have we 624 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,239 have a couple of players who are in the National League, the Swiss League. 625 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,360 We have a couple of Swiss players that are top fifty ish, both 626 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,079 defencemen, and I just wanted to remind people of like how good that league 627 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,320 is, because I think a lot of people have this impression of like how 628 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,639 good the KHL is and how that's been trending down. We had Chase McCollum 629 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760 on to talk about that, and if you look at he has some trends. 630 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,639 You can compare leagues over time, and one of the things I have 631 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,280 in the show notes here is the KHL versus the NL, and basically they 632 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,519 are similar now and the NL is right on par with the KHL. So 633 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,559 if you see some of the defensemen, some of the people that are doing 634 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:47,880 really well. The name to that stands out right now is danielle Ustenkoff Stinkoff. 635 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,360 I think you guys talked about him on the most recent to Locked on 636 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,079 Prospects YEP episode and so he and Leon Wigli, but he's playing in the 637 00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:01,039 under twenty version. But still I think those two Swiss defenseman, you probably 638 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,079 should open your eye a little bit more to them, not you, Hattie, 639 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,519 but just the general audience because that league is really tough, and I 640 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:13,599 think the KHL it's still a really tough league, still impressive when we have 641 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,960 these guys like Salayev playing in the KHL. I'm not trying to take away 642 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,039 from that, but I think we should keep a little bit more praise on 643 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,639 that league. I also think, as you mentioned, the Swedes, and 644 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,639 we don't have that many Swedes, but that is a really tough league. 645 00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,119 So anytime you see that, and even the J twenty I think that and 646 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:37,480 the hockeyhels Fensken that's a really strong program there, so players that come out 647 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,159 of there, and I think the biggest name Michael Brenzig Nargard guard, and 648 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,679 he's a really interesting player because he's I think he's going to go fairly high 649 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,280 just because he's he is going to be an NHL player, Oh yeah, 650 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,920 pretty much like already could probably play on a fourth line in the NHL. 651 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,039 But I also don't know that the upside for fantasy is super high with him. 652 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,760 So he's one of those guys that I think might just be better in 653 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,000 real life, but all so super impressive what he's doing in Sweden right now. 654 00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:07,280 Yeah, it's interesting because the best Swedish league prospect right now is Norwegian. 655 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,199 So that's yes, it's like Swedish born players have Alfonse free in my 656 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,119 first round and that's it. Like that is not a good draft for Swedish 657 00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,519 born players, but that's going to change next year. Next year there's a 658 00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,280 handful of guys I think, headlined by Anton Frondel and Philip Eckberg for the 659 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,000 moment, but yeah, this year is just you've got two defensemen for me 660 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:30,760 my top forty that are Swedes. Outside of that, it's Lucas Patterson starting 661 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,559 to make some noise as well. Maybe he cracks my top forty, but 662 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719 yeah, it's not the year for Swedes. I also just wanted to echo 663 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,079 the NC DOUBLEA thing people sometimes forget, like how hard it is to play 664 00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,599 in the NC DOUBLEA, Like, oh, the fact that maclenn Celebrini at 665 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:51,840 seventeen is dominating this league that is usually I mean, you look at the 666 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,239 Quinnipiac team last year. I think their average age was like over twenty two 667 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,960 or something like that. Like they were old, big, strong, fast 668 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,719 team, and that's usually what college is. Like they're quite a bit older, 669 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,280 they're stronger, they spend a lot of time in the weight room. 670 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,480 So the NCAA you don't usually get too many draft eligibles, at least not 671 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:14,239 that are producing super highly. And we're just so lucky that we get to 672 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,599 see Celebrini and Liftzunov and William all kind of dominating. So I think that's 673 00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,880 really huge. And yeah, the DUB I think there's like the quality of 674 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,639 the league can certainly matter, but that also doesn't mean that you should punish 675 00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:31,599 players that are killing it, like peract that maybe it's not the best Oahl 676 00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:37,320 year, but you still can't punish guys like that so good. So yeah, 677 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,440 definitely some of the leagues that you can track on more if you're really 678 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,599 looking for some scouting. We've covered the defenceman being particularly strong. It sounds 679 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:50,079 like the forwards there's a couple of particularly strong ones, but then maybe a 680 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,559 bit of a break before you get the other strongest members of the class. 681 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,920 And he takes on the goalies, Pattie, We got to ask about the 682 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,480 goalies. Nobody ever wants to talk about the goalies. Yes, because if 683 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,480 anybody drafts a goalie high, it's always a bad decision, unless there have 684 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,320 been a couple than that mid first round. But are you here in chatter 685 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,800 do you think that there's a couple of good goalies in this one? Yeah? 686 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,679 For sure. Ryerson Leanders is at the top of that list. He's 687 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,840 one of the smarter goaltenders that I've seen, really aware of where the puck 688 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,840 is and great anticipation as to where it's going. Almost never gets beat from 689 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,719 the point, and I believe he went on the fifteen start run recently with 690 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,679 the Mississaugus steel Heads, and that's not something you usually see with OHL goaltenders. 691 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,360 There's a decent amount of rotation in the OHL, so that gives you 692 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,760 an idea of how trusted he is by coaches, but he's fairly limited in 693 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,920 terms of technical ability. In terms of athleticism, I'd say that you start 694 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,519 talking about goalies around the fifty range. That's where I start getting comfortable with 695 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:51,599 goalies. And internally at Dauber prospects that are scouting and me and our goaltender 696 00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:54,639 scout and I, Colin Hunter and I had a big discussion about which who 697 00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:59,360 we like better between Ryerson Landers and Carter George. Who is the other kind 698 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,360 of goaltender In this conversation, I see Carter George reminds me a bit of 699 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,400 Mike Smith and his constant willingness to leave the net and make plays. And 700 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,719 I'm more on the Steve Dangle side of things, where I'm like, if 701 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,519 you're a goaltender, tend the goal. And it's caused some concerns this year 702 00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,239 with Carter George, but overall I think that he's really smart with when and 703 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,760 how he chooses to leave his net, and he's really daring, like he'll 704 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,119 dangle a player. We're talking about a goaltender here. It's really strange and 705 00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:28,199 funny to watch, but overall there's projectability there. He's definitely more of an 706 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,360 athlete than Landers. Definitely more technically capable than Landers, but the mental game 707 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,320 isn't as present for me as with Landers. And there's a name that's just 708 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,800 starting to pop up on rankings, and it's Marcus Goodlough out of Sweden, 709 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,159 massive goaltender. He's six foot six, one hundred and ninety two hundred pounds 710 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:47,559 something like that. He's a player that's fighting his weight on the way down. 711 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,400 He'll get to the butterfly and if he gets a shot high, he 712 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,320 needs to fight the weight of his arms to get his hands up. And 713 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,039 that's the only thing I say is a major concern in his game, because 714 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,119 he's another goaltender who tracks the puck extremely well, constantly aware of where it 715 00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,679 is. He has active hands, so his hands constantly stay in front of 716 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,559 him, and he leads with his hands when he makes saves, which is 717 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:09,000 something I look for in goalies. And yeah, I think the raw upside 718 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:14,599 might be higher than with Goodlof, but the certainty that we have with Leanders 719 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:16,760 and Carter George's styles is really interesting. So I see, those are the 720 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,880 three goalies I'm willing to talk about right now, and I haven't watched much 721 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,960 of Emil Vinnie, who's also been in conversations out of Finland. But I've 722 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,519 heard good things so's I'd say he's in this conversation, but I'm more focused 723 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,079 on the North American side. I get some viewings here and there about these 724 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,880 guys, but Emil Vinie's the guy's on my scouting lists. All right, 725 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,039 Cool. Next, the thing I wanted to ask you about. I teased 726 00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:40,239 that this earlier, and I don't know. I'm not sure how deep you 727 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,679 get into the fantasy side of things. I don't expect you to. But 728 00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:47,159 do you think there are some guys in this draft who are going to put 729 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,239 up the box score stats but they won't necessarily be drafted as high just in 730 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:58,039 terms of their performance, just because of their fantasy profile or their their talent 731 00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:00,760 profile. I guess I should say, yeah, I'd say Berkeley Katton's in 732 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,320 that conversation. He's a player who has fantastic dynamic ability. He's really pacy, 733 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,480 even though skating is not all that good. He plays at the highest 734 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:12,559 pace that he can handle, and he handles it really well. And yeah, 735 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,800 he's the type of player who can dangle through layers and get to the 736 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,119 net. And he's got a really good snapshot as well, so he's able 737 00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,159 to release a shot in motion, which is another thing I look for. 738 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,440 Tarver Conley's in this conversation as well. I think that Conley has a lot 739 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,920 of offensive upside, and he's become a lot more defensively engaged and responsible as 740 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,599 of late. I have been really impressed with the level of effort that he's 741 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:38,440 putting on the backcheck. But he's still a player who he plays pond hockey 742 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,719 sometimes and that you need to bring that up a level or two to become 743 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,920 a more well rounded pro player. And the last player I throw in there 744 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,639 is probably Luke Misa misas he's probably the pasiest player in the draft. Like 745 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,840 the pace at which he plays, the pace at which he thinks, and 746 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,039 the way that he approaches the game is I'm going to accelerate the pace of 747 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,360 the play every chance I get repuck touch I get, I'm gonna find a 748 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,559 way to speed up the pace of play because he can handle that speed and 749 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,199 other players in this league can't. And yeah, overall, I think that 750 00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:12,840 there's offensive upside there along with a lot of defensive responsibility. But I think 751 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,880 he's probably gonna get drafted in the sixties or seventies because he's undersize and because 752 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,119 he plays a particular style that doesn't really wows to but it doesn't make you 753 00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:24,159 very safe as a coach in terms of sending him out there, even though 754 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,000 the numbers defensively are fantastic, even though the results defensively are great, I 755 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,119 don't think teams are as sold on his ability to play under physical pressure in 756 00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,519 the NHL as I am. I think he's got no problem handling that. 757 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,360 But from what I've seen everywhere, he's a player is probably gonna be drafted 758 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,079 in the sixties and seventies and have him at sixteenth overall right now, because 759 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:46,920 the offensive upside's great, the defensive game is great, the work rate's great, 760 00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:51,840 and again, paciest player in this draft, and I love speedy players. 761 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,360 That's the style play that I really value. So yeah, I got 762 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,199 the need for speed, Victor. Any reactions you want to do these or 763 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,599 other guys you want to prompt to get Hattie's takes on, I think in 764 00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:07,199 terms of bash, I haven't done all that yet, but I did want 765 00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:12,360 to tell people that we are working on these player cards through Fantasy Hockey life 766 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:22,960 where we are going to have bash rankings and tiers for players selfish, selfish, 767 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,000 break it down, skate fuck, don't bass. I think it's still 768 00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,239 going to be there. Are you catch out for taking coach and coach dropping 769 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,079 for coach? Still shot bad bounce, that's a good breakaway get the bass 770 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:42,559 boys, but they have and maybe a good question for if it's there. 771 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,760 The only other thing I wanted to say about goalies too is that I don't 772 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,039 know. I don't know anything about these goalies right now, although I did 773 00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:51,760 hear what Hotty said about Carter George, which is hilarious, just how he 774 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,719 likes to move the puck ground. But I also wanted to remind people, 775 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,599 Yeah, I don't usually draft goalies, but there are some marketing efficiencies with 776 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:05,480 overage European goalies, so that's something to look at. And there's we talked 777 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,920 about Thomas Chukhanik last episode. There's going to be some players taken later on, 778 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,039 probably in rounds four through seven that are probably over age goalies playing in 779 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,079 Europe or somewhere like that, and that might be someone worth taking a because 780 00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,719 there's a better likelihood they'll work out and be they're much closer to being NH 781 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,639 already, So that's something to keep in mind. The next question I got 782 00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:31,239 for you, I'm trying to figure out when I look at these gouting reports. 783 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,920 You've got some great information here. We're talking in terms of transition, 784 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:42,360 play and fee only back pressure in these types of things. But I'm curious 785 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,320 about keywords that you see in or that I should train on when I'm reading 786 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,760 your stuff about who is going to end up as a fantasy performer versus the 787 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,920 real life performer. Whenever I see two way, for example, I cringe 788 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,760 because I say, wow, that means defensive responsibility, which is going to 789 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,639 keep him on the ice, but might keep him off the score sheet, 790 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,199 or at least show that more of his value relative is coming from those types 791 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:14,559 of contributions. Are there words that I should look for decode in your amazing 792 00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:19,480 analysis to determine the types of things that I'm curious about determining. Yeah, 793 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,079 dynamic and creative equals points only. That's where it starts. Anytime you see 794 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:28,920 dynamic, every player I qualify as dynamic in the Shraft Celebrini to meet Off, 795 00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:36,239 Perrek, Caton Connolly, All these guys are great points only bets, 796 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:42,159 and when you see two way I wouldn't say it's necessarily that they're they're not 797 00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,719 gonna put up points like i'd say Caden Lynchtrom's a really good two way player. 798 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,440 I think he's fantastic for bash and I also think he's a pretty good 799 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,880 bet for points only, like he's gonna get minutes. And there's a very 800 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,760 particular thing that Lynchrom does that I really like, and it's that he can 801 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,519 pucks just seemed to just glue to a stick. He'll get a rim, 802 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,679 he'll get a board pass in transition, like a stretch pass off the boards, 803 00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,280 and he'll like let it slip between his legs and it'll just stick to 804 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,280 a stick. And it's just that's the thing that when you're six foot three, 805 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,840 six foot three and a half, like two hundred pounds, with that 806 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,320 good skating, with the ability to drop your weight and lean into players, 807 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:24,000 that particular detail being able to do that at a high speed, Katan Linstrom's 808 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,079 gonna score points in the NHL. So even though I qualify him as a 809 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,239 two way player as a really good bash bet, I still think that I 810 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,000 still think there's near a point per game upside with Kaden Linstrom, which for 811 00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:38,039 a player of this caliber, you don't let him slip past ten in a 812 00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,800 points only league anyway. Like, I don't think there are nine players that 813 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,159 are gonna put up more points than Linstrom and the draft. Yeah, it's 814 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:46,679 just things like that. Like I say, creative, dynamic or points are 815 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:52,079 the things you keep in mind for points only powerful strong skater. I'd say 816 00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:54,800 something that you can put in the bash category because I think of the guys 817 00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:00,320 that i'd select for bash, Lynstrom, Dickinson, Left, Shanov, Green 818 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,400 Tree, Brand, Secne Guard, all these guys are players that qualify still 819 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,039 like powerful strong skaters. Right, So those kinds of players tend to have 820 00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:12,880 seamless transitions into a bottom six with the ability to climb the way up. 821 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,360 Any thoughts on that, victor any other keywords that we should be asking about 822 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,239 here, Yeah, No, I think those are really good ones. You 823 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,280 can see things like physical playmaking. Dual threat is something that is sometimes good 824 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,639 because if you want to fill out your points, you do need to be 825 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:35,119 a dual threat. It's really interesting because some players are really so good and 826 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,599 dimensionally. We talk about Cole Eiserman. That's usually what you look for is 827 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,519 because they have one translatable skill that they can lean on that'll make them in 828 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:45,719 NHL. Yes, he does. But then the other question is how you 829 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,519 look at someone like Seth Jarvis from a few years ago, and he didn't 830 00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:52,679 have one amazing skill, but he thought the game exceptionally well and had really 831 00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,480 good skills across the board. And sometimes you look at that player and you 832 00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:59,360 think he doesn't have that one thing, but he has a lot of above 833 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,119 average skills. And sometimes it's hard to pick those players out because sometimes those 834 00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,679 can be even more valuable because they can translate, they can refine all their 835 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,320 skills and the sum is greater than the parts. So I think that's important 836 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,119 to look at too. And I think for the most part, you do 837 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,599 need dual threat players if you want to get closer to that point per game 838 00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:22,920 mark, unless they can't be a poor playmaker, if they're just a shooter, 839 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,360 and if they just get assists and don't aren't a threat to shoot, 840 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,079 then you just have to be a little bit concerned about that. But for 841 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:30,800 most of these top guys, you don't worry too much about that. It's 842 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,840 more as you get down in that range we talked about earlier past fifteen where 843 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,599 you're taking some shots either way, like some upside shots. I feel like 844 00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:45,960 we've gotten through those top defensemen, three of the top forwards, plus Kaiden 845 00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:51,559 Lindstrom before we start to come toward our closing here, Hattie, is are 846 00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:54,199 there any other forwards that we really need to talk about as far as some 847 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:59,400 of your top prospects in this draft? Anybody you not want people to not 848 00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,639 hear about when they're hearing about the excited players in this draft. Yeah. 849 00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:06,519 And in terms of players, I'd say I haven't really talked I've gotten much 850 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,639 of a chance to talk about in this episode that I really want people to 851 00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:14,760 know about. I put Miguel Marquez and John Mustard, and in this conversation, 852 00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,679 Miguel Marquez is just about as in your face as you can get for 853 00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:22,559 a players undersize it doesn't necessarily play physically, but every chance he gets, 854 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:24,920 he cuts to them mid all off the rush. Every chance he gets, 855 00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:29,400 he slows down the pace of play, finds a small passing lane and threws 856 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,159 a pass through. And when you give him too much space, he can 857 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:35,639 just crow and drag it right in the top corner like he's got a fantastic 858 00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:38,440 shot, really great vision and play making, fantastic hands, so the tools 859 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,079 are up there, but he also thinks the game at a high level. 860 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,920 I have him ranked thirty third, but I've watched a lot of him recently 861 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,760 and he's almost definitely going to crack my top twenty five. This is a 862 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,320 player who has got the upside to become a top sixer. John Mustard's a 863 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,800 bit of the same. He's one of the younger players of the class, 864 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,719 another really skillful and creative player with one of the best curl and drags in 865 00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:01,880 the draft. On top of that, I'd say that Mustard has the hints 866 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,199 of a power game. Like he's abled, He's got the frame more or 867 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,840 less right now. He's got the willingness to put his knee out when he's 868 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,639 protecting the puck and drop his shoulder, so the puck protection mechanics are really 869 00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:15,320 good. He's got a lot of pace to him. His skating is really 870 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800 good as well, so I think that all the tools are there to make 871 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,800 him a power forward. And when you have the skill set that he has 872 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,079 already, like that's a great combination of skills. So I think that he's 873 00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:29,039 another player to keep a look on and end things off with. For me, 874 00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:31,280 he's the best qmjhller of this class. People have Maxim Melci in this 875 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,280 conversation. I think Maxim Malc has a lot of things to work on in 876 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,760 his game that already understands really well. He's a great thinker of the game 877 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,960 offensively and defensively. He's a face off wizard, and on top of that, 878 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,960 he's got a lot of intricacy to his game, Like his playmaking is 879 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440 fantastic, his vision and transition is great, all the little habits you want 880 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,559 out of a pro he has. He's a player I have ranked thirty six 881 00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:57,000 the overall right now, but I think he can easily and comfortably climb his 882 00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,199 way into my first round. I'm a big fan of pretty much every thing 883 00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:01,840 he does, and he's the only player out of the cam jshell right now 884 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,880 that actually gets me excited to talk about the rest of Yeah, they're good, 885 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,440 but there are things here and there and I don't really like that much. 886 00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:10,440 But what all is one guy that I constantly look at and I'm like, 887 00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:15,159 yeah, I like this kid, and overall, yeah, he's just 888 00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:17,679 a really smart, really intelligent, really capable player. In all three zones. 889 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,519 Very good. The other question that I have this is the summary question. 890 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:28,360 Every draft we go into we say how high is the height? Some 891 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,440 people would probably say, gosh, even your I Slavkovski, even though he 892 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,280 looked like the bestest player that year, you probably were okay going to the 893 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,239 next year because the high heights were not there. How much would I regret 894 00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:45,119 trading a top five pick that could become Macklin Celebrini five years from now. 895 00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:46,800 It depends on your return. I don't know what you got in return for 896 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:52,440 that trade. But Macklin Celebrini, he's money. Like he's a player who's 897 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,599 going to be a first liner, who's going to be unless he's drafted by 898 00:59:55,679 --> 01:00:00,639 Chicago, going to be the best player on his team. Really good. 899 01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:04,400 And overall, I think that the things that he's good at are so valued 900 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,519 in today's NHL that it's just a matter of time before it becomes your first 901 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:10,920 life center, your top power play center, and even can throw a shift 902 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,480 or two in on the penalty kill if you're down a goal and you need 903 01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:17,320 a bit of pace and offense and transition. He's got that ability. So 904 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,119 yeah, it depends on what you got in return. But I'd say that 905 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:24,159 if your first round pick became ceth of Brini, no matter what the return 906 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,639 is, it's not looking the best, that's for sure. Okay, that's 907 01:00:29,679 --> 01:00:32,760 good to know. I live my life with no regrets, and that means 908 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,159 I want to avoid that one. Do you? Why didn't you let people 909 01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:39,519 know? We age? You mentioned it mid show. But once again, 910 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,960 people need to start studying for the test because it's going to come up before 911 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,639 we know it, and you really want to try to enjoy that NHL draft. 912 01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:51,400 Maybe you're cheering for a team where now is already a time when you 913 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,880 need to start thinking about that. Oh, how can people follow all this 914 01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:59,079 work and be prepared for the draft and the rookie drafts to come? Absolutely, 915 01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,880 you can start off, I fall daber Prospects anywhere you get your podcasts, 916 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:07,039 anywhere you like to read stuff. Gabert Prospects a fantastic source for that. 917 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,920 And it's going to start off with our prospect mid season rankings that are 918 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,159 going to be coming out as top sixty four well I believe eighteen honorable mentions. 919 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:17,760 So we're deepening the class already and looking at a bunch of guys that's 920 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,800 going to be coming up the weekend of after Valentine's Day. The article should 921 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,960 be out by then. You can also follow me on Twitter Hatti k Underscore 922 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,159 Scouting. Everything I post goes there, including the rankings, including the articles, 923 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,159 including the podcast, which I also have myself locked on. NHL Prospects 924 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,440 is also a great source for Prospects content, so make sure to check that 925 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,039 out as well. But Twitter is a one stop shop, so as soon 926 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:42,119 as the article comes out, if you follow me on Twitter, it's going 927 01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:45,480 to be on your page. Feel fair to check me out there. Headti 928 01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:50,440 Cali Cash, the amazing voice of Dabber Prospects. Thank you so much for 929 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,440 being on the show today and helping us start getting the juices blowing for this 930 01:01:53,519 --> 01:02:07,639 year's NHL draft. Of course, thanks or hating me on Before we get 931 01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:10,639 out of here, a couple things to mention our show. It's brought to 932 01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,880 you by fantracks dot com. 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There are a lot of 941 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,119 people contributing to Fantasy Hockey Life who you may not see every day if you're 942 01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:55,800 just listening to the show. Maybe you'll see a little more of them if 943 01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,239 you're in the discord. Content curator Kevin Adams helped out with our show prep. 944 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,159 A lot of stuff in our show notes that you all don't see unless 945 01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:07,360 you're a patron. But we rely on Kevin and he does a great job 946 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,039 for us. Ryan Downey you've heard him on several episodes. The Tidy Admiral 947 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,840 is commissioning all the Tidy leagues. That's a heck of a lot of work, 948 01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:21,320 and we really appreciate him stepping up this year to do that. Heck 949 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,760 of a fantasy hockey player as well. Jeremy v Our, lead scout, 950 01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:30,480 you don't necessarily see his impact right now, but believe me, come team 951 01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:34,519 preview time. Jeremy is going to be working overtime, coordinating a lot of 952 01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:38,719 people doing scouting reports. Jason helping with our prospect ranks. Always more going 953 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:45,400 on in the ranking space and what Victory is going to put out and things 954 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,400 that are even going to come out in our website that are going to blow 955 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,119 minds. Brandon is our website guru and he's the other half of that. 956 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,320 He's the part that is going to be putting some of that up, helping 957 01:03:55,360 --> 01:04:01,119 with our prospect ranks and visualizations. He is really branded doing that. Jason's 958 01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:05,199 helping behind the scenes making the prospect rank stuff work. If you've got skills, 959 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,079 you'd like to lend the show just to make more stuff for the community. 960 01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:14,639 To hit Victor up in the discord email or X. You can catch 961 01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:20,199 us on X at fan Hockey Life is Me at Victor Nuno twelve is a 962 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:26,880 Victor. You can listen to Victor's other show, Dabber Prospect Radio or Daber 963 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,880 Prospect Report. I'm sorry that was the old name for it with Peter Harlan, 964 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,400 where they talk a lot of fantasy Prospects. If you like this show, 965 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,400 you're probably gonna like that one. We're brought to you by Dabber Hockey 966 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,440 and Dabber Prospects. Maybe you found this show on the daber Prospects page. 967 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:46,320 You're wondering where there's regular content for fantasy hockey prospects, rookies, and then, 968 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,480 frankly, everything else in fantasy hockey. Dabber Hockey is the place to 969 01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:55,000 be. You can check out Victor's articles at EP Ringside. He's part of 970 01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:59,519 the fantasy team there with Cam Robinson, Mike Clifford, and many many more. 971 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,239 I also do a solo show. It's called Dynasty Sports Life. I 972 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:08,159 talk all the dynasty sports over there. This week, we're going to talk 973 01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:12,119 about the NBA trade deadline, which wasn't quite as exciting. Hopefully the NHL 974 01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:15,880 trade deadline is a little more exciting, but still changes of value for dynasty 975 01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:21,599 basketball players to know. As we hit the end game over there, tell 976 01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:25,880 us if you liked this episode. Tell us if this was enough different from 977 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,400 the normal draft content that it was more useful less useful. We always appreciate 978 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,079 that feedback. Hit us up by email x or wherever else. Rate and 979 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:38,280 review this podcast, Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever else you get your pods. 980 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:44,519 We appreciate the positive feedback and the love because we're here just to help 981 01:05:44,559 --> 01:06:00,320 you improve and live this fantasy hockey life. Yeah,