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Breaking down all the exes and ohs. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salviaz.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen. Okay, welcome back

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to an of the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jaginsaus. Now we have an
Elyse with breaking news break. This

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is I on the Ball, breaking
news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All

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right, So what I have here
is that Arizona announced earlier today that they

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will be hiring former San Jose State
running back coach Alonso Carter to replace Scotty

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Graham, who is departing the u
of A to Washington with Jedfish. Seems

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to be keeping on tread. Jedfish
is taking his running back coach, and

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Brennan is bringing his guy to the
u of A. So he spent seven

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seasons at SJSU and he's Brent Brennan's
guy. So hopefully we'll do some good

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things. Are we already saying though
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running back is also coming with him, right, Is that what you said?

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Or do we not know that the
coach just the coach? Okay,

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I thought, well, we had
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They went into the portal, so
I think the presumption is that he might

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wind up Ana, especially with Jonah
Coleman having gone. So, you know,

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look at the trickle down content at
the end of the day, right,

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the trickle down continues, both players
and coaches. I saw that there

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was another another player decided to go
to to go to Washington at the quarterback,

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another quarterback recruit from Arizona who had
committed, who had committed to Arizona,

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he wasn't signed. He committed in
Arizona. He's flipped to Washington.

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So he's a commitment for for next
year. I think eventually in over the

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next week or so, we'll see
more commitments come here. And given that

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Brennan's at least he told us in
a number of out and it said his

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priority was to get involved with the
kids here and let them know who he

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is, keep them here and then
go out. Yeah, still still got

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to get an offensive coordinator here.
Are you hearing anything. I'm hearing zero.

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I'm hearing nothing that so, and
we kind of know that if it's

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doing a KENO, he'll probably read
the defensive coordinator. Yeah. Yeah,

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Well they even haven't. They haven't
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he's coming here. So interesting,
Okay, I don't think it will be

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surprising if we see more Arizona recruits
go to Washington and more San Jose.

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Right, sure, recruits come here
to be with coach Brent Brennan's you know.

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And and again you just hope that
that they're making these just you know,

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they're good decisions, right, I
mean Jetfish said himself. If you're

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doing it just because you know there's
more money over there, that's a bad

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reason to be doing doing any of
that. Right, Let's see what happens

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there, all right. So we
also have that the Milwaukee Bucks fired their

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head coach Aiden Griffin earlier today.
Did you get the record coach for games?

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That was it? I? Bitually? He's one about least twenty five.

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He's the first year, first year
head coach. What the hell were

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you the assistant? Did you mess
it up that bad? I do you

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just think that he was too young
or they were not listening to him or

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paying attention because they have a good
record. I don't know. They're in

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second place in the ET and they
have they have a chance to win it

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all. I think they're one of
the second favorites. They say anything,

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just I didn't see too much about
this. All I hear is that they

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are eyeing Doc Rivers. You know, maybe this guy was too young and

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they want someone more old school,
more traditional. Doc Doc Rivers obviously has

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had a long, fruitful coaching career, but he was fired from. Yeah,

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they I think they want a stable, older guy to help guide them,

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you know, yeh being who the
other guy was too young? Maybe

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they weren't listening to him the NBA. Do they ever listen? Come on,

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I don't. I don't understand.
Steve don't get a had job in

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the NBA. That's what understand.
They're three and a half games out of

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first place in the East. He's
coached half a season. What the hell?

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What? I just wish somebody would
say, here's why, right,

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here's why we fired Dave Hike.
Here's why we fired Uh, what's the

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name Adrian Griffin? Just tell us? Why do you keep us in suspense?

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Yeah, nothing happening, well,
not happening right away, and eventually

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he'll come out. Yeah, I
mean Doc Rivers was let go from the

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seventy six ers. The end of
last season and now he's just been doing

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TV, so he's like free to
coach. I guess, dang, and

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again didn't did he didn't even finish
the season, and its second place in

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the not even halfway through the season, second place in the conference, and

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tied for the second best record in
the league. The only one ahead of

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him is the Boston sething yeah,
because then the Bucks are thirty and thirteen

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and and uh and the Timberwolves are
thirty and thirteen. What the hell?

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Why does Greg Popovich still have a
job. He's eight and thirty five and

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he's got you know, the best
place, best rookie in the NBA.

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Well, last night, did you
have anything else after that? After that?

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Because you saw last night that there's
seventy one point effort last night and

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b went for seventy one. I
guess yeah, Towns went for sixty two,

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did you? And the coach was
pissed at Karl Anthony town Why because

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he said that that that that that
the whole team played immaturely. Oh yeah,

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yeah, because they were going,
you know, they were going after

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giving them the ball, giving him
the ball, giving him the ball,

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and he was scoring all these points. But they were losing and then they

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lost and he was pissed about that, and I agree, I agree.

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Are they're the one? I think
they're the best team in the West,

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aren't they? Aren't they the best
or second best team in the West Minnesota?

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Yes, yeah, yes, so
well every that's rich people problems,

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goodness, the first world probably first
we're probably yeah, good, good,

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that's going on. Good. Yeah, I'm not too sure. You see

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a Tristan Thompson. I guess you
don't know who he is. Yeah,

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the Kardashian guy he was. I
didn't know he was still in the league.

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Again, this is good to be
a six foot ten guy. He's

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with Cleveland and apparently he's been suspended
for twenty five games for for drug drugs

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p dad, try to be young
still, but it was performance enhancing drug

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P I was gonna say p D
as that's the personally, that's the old

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things that we used to put our
calendars on. Okay, okay, yeah,

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so he's out. He's thirty two
years old. I guess he was

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with Oh, he's one of the
Kardashian guys. That's how he became who

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he became. Yeah, okay,
so not doing anything special. In the

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basketball. He won't be. He
won't be definitely won't be now right,

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So I saw a uh, you
know, keep going with some breaking Joe

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Joe Len already broke out another the
bractice. Arizona's the two seat again,

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two seed, but I think aren't
they the second the last two seats?

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At least that's not one yesterday there
were number eight, So second second,

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it's funny Joe Joe Bill Joe Joe
billis j. Baill talked about it was

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only yesterday saying that, you know, there's three or four good teams that

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really looks stand out. I think
Kentucky was one, and Yukon and Arizona.

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He says, but you know,
Arizona looks like they can win it

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all one day and then not win
anything in the next first round the next

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You've seen that personally, we saw
it a lot and a half. Last

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game. We've been saying that for
a while, at least against UCLA.

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They came back by being down nineteen
points was the biggest margin, and Arizona

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usually doesn't come back like that.
They usually don't push through till the end,

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and they did that this game.
So I honestly was kind of impressed

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with that second half reform. Well, I got stopped at my breakfast club,

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and the first reaction I got was, what the hell was wrong with

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them in the first half part of
the second Instead of I'm happy we won

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in the game, it was like, what the hell is going on?

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It's nice to know that we have
that fight in us, though, yeah,

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because sometimes we don't have that.
There's the problem though. You also

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have to realize you don't have that
fight something and Princeton comes up in the

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first round or second round, You're
thinking, what happened to that fight?

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Well, they're on a plane coming
back to Tucson. Yeah, because you

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have to have it all the time. Yeah, yeah, and they were

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at home. I think he made
a great option pimasion that had this game

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not been played in Michale, they're
gonna be by nineteen. Where do they

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go on the road? This week? They go on the road, they

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say. There was a picture of
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Somebody posted a picture of it,
and I just brought all these I love

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that place. I love you know, the three levels, the whole bed

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and people hanging. You have a
cigarette in that place that's burning down in

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a heartbeat. Did Tommy Lloyd say
anything after that UCLA game about them being

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able to come back? They played
well, but they played hard to play

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different. Uh when after it he
was he was proud of them, but

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nothing specific. Cronin had something to
do with it too. He went ballistic

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on the sideline and you know he
couldn't have had a technical a technical file

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at the worst time, right,
all right, you know, Pela Larson

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is already going to the line.
He's the best free throw shooter. You

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knew he was gonna make all four
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just hit the bottom of the net. Yeah, and then all of a

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sudden, the game is tied.
Once Arizona tide the game, that was

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it. That game was over.
It's funny because he benefited from the same

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situation, type of situation against a
shoe with those five texts. They won

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by seven. They won that's almost
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And one day you win it that
way, another next day you don't

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win it. That's the next question
I've been I've been getting what did he

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say it? Like, I didn't
hear it? No, we could see

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it. We can see Yeah,
we saw it, but we couldn't hear

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it. Couldn't hear it. You
didn't have to be a mouth reader to

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understand what he said. I know. Moving on, Carter Bryant, the

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recruit recruit for for Tommy Lloyd becomes
Tommy Lloyd's first McDonald's All America. He

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was named McDonald's American. They must
have like thirty Now did they say him?

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I didn't. I didn't see.
I just saw that he he was

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named a a McDonald's All American.
So okay, you want to talk about

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transfers. How's how's this? Gundy's
son who played for them at Oklahoma State

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is transferred? Seriously, my Gundy's
kid is transferred from his dad's team.

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Good or Gundy is leaving? Where's
he going? It looks like we're just

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jumped in the portal the portal?
Why are you going to Ohio University?

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This is yeah, I love you, but I'm taking off. My feelings

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would get hurt. I'm a man, I'm a forty year old. My

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my feelings would really be heard if
my kid transfers. Really, Dad,

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you don't understand you understand you?
Following the girl? What are you doing

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here? Playing time? Man,
you don't give me no playing time.

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You're too mean to me. Oh
my god, Oh my god. Okay,

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all right, I don't have any
more breaking these, do you know?

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Okay, let's let's talk about who's
the next athletic director. Man.

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I think I think Greg threw it
out right away. I know a couple

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of the roads, is it roads? He's a bail Okay, Mark Harlan.

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Why would they look at anybody but
markin money? I think he's probably

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doing really well. Would you want
to leave there to come here? No,

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he's got a better job there for
sure, no no doubt. But

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you're in your you're too sentiment give
give him a clean starting to cry over

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year. He loves he loves that. I love shocked. I would be

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shocked to be Kim here. Why
would he leave? He's got a good

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deal to come back to. I'm
sure Lake loves him to. He was

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here for a long time, so
I know, I know he was.

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He's one of the good guys.
I think it's gonna be the guy that

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that well, who knows, because
I don't know how they're gonna hire.

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Come on, this is gonna be
a tough hire. How about Steve hurt.

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Somebody threw that name out? Oh
cool with that? Is he tired

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of that? Maybe it could be
right. He could out there if you're

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Bobby Robbins or somebody in Bobby Robbins
camp, you know, don't you call

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at least call him? What does
it take to be an a D.

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You're just throwing people out there.
He was a general manager in the NBA.

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It's not like he doesn't know how
to run. Uh Now, I

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don't know if he was a good
general manager, but he knows how to

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do it well. He would know
how to run. He was another interesting

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thing that Huberto said he wants and
I thought it was great stuff with the

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coaches, but with a D.
He wants somebody who go out and chase

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money. I don't know how good
of a I with he did. Was

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he that guy? I don't know, but I know Greg was that guy?

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Greg? I don't know about.
But then he talked about that you

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you've a coaches need to have stake
in the game by chasing the money,

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chasing them, which I don't think. I know. You know what another

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thing Fish didn't get credit for.
He chased that he chased the money.

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Maybe he didn't chase as much money
as he was as he needed to,

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because apparently a lot of the a
lot of the spending that went on to

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was football was football, and I
think part of what got them in trouble.

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And I think another thing with the
boosters, the booster comment by whoever

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the source was, wink wink,
that he chased some of the boosters that

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didn't belong to the athletic department,
that would belong to the school. You

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didn't do that, and you you're
politically you can't do that, but I

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think he did. And there's a
there's a very I've seen. I know

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I've seen that. I've actually been
been in discussions where they say, do

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not you you athletic department can't go
get money from that person. You know,

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I would bet your money. I
would bet my bucks. That's very

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that happened. Yeah, you know, yeah, no, one hundred percent

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that there's you know, there's a
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go get money. Yeah, I
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give it. One crab actually told
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fuzzy himself the playground. That's why
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I'm Steve Rivera. He's my partner Jacin

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Zaws. Now on the phone,
we have Frank Bush, the former you

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of a great swim coach. How
are you? Frank? And I would

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get a lot of money that you're
happy not to be coaching these days.

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Well, there's there's a lot of
reasons that you don't want to do it,

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but you're always connected to your athletes, so it's it's just a little

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bit different. Now, let's put
it down with a little bit. Do

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you be nice? Yeah, I
think that's understating at just a level.

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So I ran into you coach over
the weekend. Hadn't seen you in a

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while. Good to see you,
and you told me you you've been up

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to some work. You retired,
but you're really working on a lot of

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like policy, or you're at least
testifying or whatever. Yeah, I was.

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I was deposed by the Power five
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regards to the athletes bringing suit against
the Pour five Conferences to try and gain

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what I think was ten percent of
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which I think the total of that
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b dollars. I mean, I
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an incredible thing. But you know, this whole idea of you know,

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the athletes getting their share, you
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should have happened a long time ago. But the reality of it is is,

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you know, what can this do
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on all of that? Well,
Jay, you're certainly right in regards to

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things should have been taken care of
at least addressed. Probably you know,

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when things first came out in two
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UCLA the first challenged the name,
image and likeness. But personally, I

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never felt like the NCAA have very
good leadership during that time, and because

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of that, continued to hold to
a principle that that pretty much everybody else

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knew was not going to last forever. So in regards to athletes, I'm

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all for athletes being able to to
gain whatever financial advantage they can gain based

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on their accomplishments or based on their
exposure. I'm just a little bit hesitant

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about schools being involved in having to
to take care of nil on tracks because

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in the free market system, you
know, you're only as good as your

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product, and I think that's just
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I think schools are being held a
little bit hostage if if it does come

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down to a suit in which they
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from the institutions. Well, you've
got and you've got this proposal by Charlie

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Baker out there to the NCAA new
NCUBA president about you know that half the

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schools in a certain division have to
pay or that the schools have to pay

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half of their athletes thirty percent of
a year and and what what that could

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possibly due to everything? But you
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of forcing the schools to do it. Whereas you know, when you're talking

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nil, that's a that's an athlete
just having the ability to sell their as

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you say, their product or whatever
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know, it seems it seems like
such a it seems like it's almost too

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big to ever resolve. Is that
it's not that hopeless, is it?

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far as hopeless is concerned. If
you are, and this is not used

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as an argument, but it would
be hard for me to understand or or

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to wrap my head around the cost
to try and continue to to offer or

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support or at any division on school
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would effect our Olympic sports and all
non revenue sports would it could be devastating.

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I would go back to whatever your
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be what you have to offer.
And I think you know, schools right

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now, I think are giving the
majority of their athletes close to six thousand

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dollars for living expenses over and above
their scholarships. And I think that I

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think there are ways in which,
you know, there can be all sorts

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of different ways to raise money for
your sport. I would hope that alumni

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would be more involved in such a
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schools having to pay thirty thousand dollars, I don't I'm not sure how that.

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I'm sure that would be into the
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what that would look like. Well, question looking at Arizona situation already in

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debt very highly. But let me
ask you, so what came of the

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deposition. I think that we didn't
get that far on Saturday because you were

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you were They had you there because
you are an Olympic coach. Yeah,

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they had me there because I was
ahead of Olympic sport for almost seven years,

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and they wanted to know. They
were trying to initially the the the

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plaintiffs, which is basically the athletes. They look at this from a standpoint

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of if we're going to we could
unionize where we want to be able to

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get our fair share from the media
rights that these conferences are getting. And

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I was brought into be questioned by
both the defense and the plaintiffs in regards

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to what I think that might might
happen to the future of any sports.

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And quite honestly, I think if
you would bring up a case as far

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as the defense would go and use
the defense being that schools are going to

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drop sports because they can't afford it, I don't think a jury would even

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hesitate to say, well, that's
too bad. The coaches are being paid

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millions of dollars. The athletes should
certainly be paid as well. But I

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do think from everything that I've read
and everything that I brought up to them

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was if this becomes a Title nine
issue, meaning the collectives are are taxable

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as opposed to being nonprofits, which
that seems to be the way to pendle

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in the swinging right now, then
it's going to come down to a Title

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nine issue, and there's going to
have to be equal money distributed to both

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men and women. Yeah. Well, again, so many layers of this.

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You know, there was a there
was a congressional hearing a few days

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ago, I don't know if it
was even yesterday or late last week,

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and a couple of athletes testified there
and then the difference of opinion as to

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what should be going on was was
incredible that I guess there was a football

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player who said, yes, this
is about whether or not athletes should be

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employees, and the football player said, I feel like an employee. I

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should be an employee. I want
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I think it was a volleyball player, and it might have been a swimmer

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or a track athlete. I think
a swimmer who both said I don't want

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to be an employee. I'm happy
getting my scholarship and getting whatever money I

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get to live off of. I
don't want to be an employee at the

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university. I don't need to be
an employee at the university. So it's

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funny the desperate disparate opinions on depending
on who you are, you know,

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where this thing should be going.
And it's kind of led the discussion in

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the aftermath, and that was in
you know what if the foot if the

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football players feel like they should be
employees and want to be employees, you

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know what, separate football from everything
else and let let the other sports continue

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the way they were, you know, with regional conferences and and you know

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they're they're amateurs and they get they
get their scholarships and as an added bonus,

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if, as you say, there's
some value in their NIL, they

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get that as well. But I
don't know if anybody would ever, you

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know, grab onto that and say
let's go with that. I mean,

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where are we headed with all this? Well, I think there's well,

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there's all sorts of possibilities out there, and I'd be the last one to

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stay. Which one is it's going
to come to fruition. But they also

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talk about there's a couple of things. Number one, if you're an employee,

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you can be fired, So you're
you could be fired and obviously lose

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your scholarship, lose your NI,
l lose everything. So be careful what

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you wish for from an athlete standpoint. The other possibility is that athletes to

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slow down. The transfer portal would
be for athletes to sign contracts and so

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not necessarily employees, but in that
contract would be amount of X amount of

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years that they had to stay with
your program, what they were going to

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aid, And of course they could
they could certainly, and that would be

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from an NIL outside of the school
point, or it could or it could

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be the school coming up with the
money. But a contract, potential contract

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might be a solution to a lot
of this too. The again, maybe

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football would be completely separate. You
can't as long as there's as long as

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there's federal funds coming to an institution, they'll have to abide by the title

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00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:52.000
line rules, which would The only
way that I think a school could separate

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football out is if it would become
Arizona Wildcats Football LLC, which would be

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completely separate from the athletic department department
in the university and operate on its own

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business model. So I don't know. There are just so many things that

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have been talked about and kicked around, and right now, from what I've

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seen, in moving forward, I
think Kyle nine is going to be an

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issue. And I also feel like
the contracts, because of what the Transfer

417
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:29.799
Portal is doing, might be a
way in which it becomes more reasonable for

418
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coaches and for institutions to realize that
a we've got player A for two years

419
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or three years or four years,
because that's what the contract has been has

420
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been designed for. So Frank,
you've been gone from this administration for a

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while. You know you didn't deal
with UH with Robbins or hike or whatever.

422
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But it must come as a surprise
to you or whatever word you want

423
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to use as you reflect on a
Hikey being fired from the institution that you

424
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were. Are you proud to work
for? Yeah? I don't. You

425
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.680
know, I don't hear things,
and I reach out and still stay in

426
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:17.960
touch with several coaches at the university, and I don't think I beg I'm

427
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.000
the person that can that can say
anything in regards to what they did or

428
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:27.400
what he didn't do, because I'm
really I'm not that close to to that

429
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.480
situation. But I really feel like
the U of A is in a is

430
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in a is in a good place. And you might say, well,

431
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.200
how could that do we? The
university is a you know, two hundred

432
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.839
and forty million dollars and how is
that in? The athletic department is in

433
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.839
debt somewhere in the fifty five plus
million dollar range. But I feel a

434
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.519
couple of things that's strongly about the
u A at this point in particular time.

435
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Number One, I think the athletic
department could say up a repayment program

436
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:09.519
to the university the money that that
the debt that is has accrued. Remember

437
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:14.599
that's that's a lot of that came
from the pandemic time. Pandemic time,

438
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and that's been that's going on across
the countries, and in some cases universities

439
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.599
have excused that debt. But that
being said, I think we can we

440
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can pay that off over a period
of time. Currently, our facilities are

441
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state of the art the most part, and I really believe that that other

442
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.559
than the west side of the stadium
meets the address. But that's something that

443
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that will do that that will take
time before that's going to be moved forward.

444
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But the other thing that I think
is critical right now is the fact

445
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that we have a basketball coach that
is absolutely committed to the institution and the

446
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.720
progress and the success that Tommy's having
rubbed off on everyone in that building.

447
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.599
And I also feel like since we've
hired Rent, it's going to make a

448
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.519
difference in that regard to because there's
no question in my mind he's here for

449
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:15.279
the long run and I believe he'll
be very successful. And when you've talked

450
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.519
about having bert On before, there's
a gentleman who is committed to the success

451
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.039
of the university in not only the
athletic department, but in the academics as

452
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.119
well, and when you have a
core, realizing that we don't maybe have

453
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the same core that maybe Alabama or
Georgia or Ohio State or Texas some of

454
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the other big schools. That doesn't
mean that we obviously can't compete because we

455
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just beat Oklahoma. And so I
believe that we're in a great place from

456
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.119
a positive standpoint, and we need
some of that positivity to rub off with

457
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.319
all the other coaches in the department. And I really believe that the UBA

458
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.799
is in a good spot now.
As far as the general institution and what's

459
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:07.240
happening with academics and staff and everything
else outside of the athletic department, I

460
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.800
don't know. That's that's the President
Robins, how that's resolved and and how

461
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.400
we go to backpacking that yeah,
Frank, let me tell you. I'll

462
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.440
have you on my Mount rushmore of
you a just so you know that thank

463
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.960
you for joining me or us.
I'm sorry, thank you, Frank.

464
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:30.159
I appreciate, appreciate the opportunity.
And and IO is great for the community

465
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.199
because it's it's what the U of
A is, the focal point in the

466
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.880
center of this community and for anyone
to think that it's not they're thinking the

467
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.400
wrong thing. Well, thank you, all right, Frank, we'll go

468
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.760
off and solve all the ni L
stuff and get back to us when you

469
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:51.239
can the new a D. Thanks
Thanks, Frank, appreciate it. Frank

470
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.239
Busch one of the great coaches.
In fact, I might put him on

471
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.000
my rout rush for he's won a
lot of title and it may not it's

472
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.679
maybe maybe not out of the question
to get a go I like that back

473
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.360
here as an ad or consultant.
Yeah, well, that's why they have

474
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.159
Mike, because he knows that he's
been there forever. Frank's been here,

475
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.639
He's done it. He's just at
the highest level of one of the most

476
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.039
successful programs at the university. Obviously
a smart guy. Right, he's being

477
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.639
asked to weigh in on this up. I want to ask him one last

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00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:21.599
question about to travel with a minor
sports Yeah, you know how much he

479
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probably would have hated it. Yeah, okay, here, all right,

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Hey, welcome back to I'm About
Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve

526
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Rivera. He's Jacobsauz. We have
analyst in with us today, should probably

527
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.199
be our Tuesday person coming in with
us. Thank you very much. Want

528
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.480
to dissect some of the things that
Frank said, Well, yeah, you

529
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.480
know, we were talking about that, you know, and to me STI

530
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:06.119
and I said it to Frank,
it just seems so big. Oh yeah,

531
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.440
so many pieces of it from so
many different directions. How does it?

532
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.880
How does it ever get corralled to
come up with a solution that works?

533
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.599
Yeah, well it's not. It's
it's uh, it's enticement. Now

534
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:22.840
you're paying people of kids money to
come to a school. They're not doing

535
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.199
the service yet. It's like a
free agency. You're gonna give you a

536
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.760
bag of money. We hope that
you do well, and if you don't

537
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.840
do well, well that's on us. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

538
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:31.280
Now, it's paid for money.
We've got to pay you. We

539
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.000
still got to pay right. And
then the employment stuff that we were talking

540
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.559
about. If you're if you're gonna
be an employee, well you better work

541
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.920
your butt off and you're better prepared
for the possibility that, as Frank said,

542
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.800
that you might get fired yeah,
you know. Okay, where we

543
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.159
said be careful what you wish for. You want to be an employee,

544
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:52.320
Okay, you don't get to just
get the paycheck, you know, the

545
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.119
certain paycheck of an x amount of
money based on your skills. But on

546
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.840
top of everything else, you got
the responsibility of doing your job well and

547
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.119
doing it well enough to keep it. What if you get hurt, it's

548
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.559
like a It's like Coloco. I
don't know the situation with the what do

549
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.599
you do with with Coloco? So
he gets he gets let go, he

550
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.800
gets waived, and then you have
the blood clot thing. Who's on the

551
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.800
hook for the medical stuff? Well? Seeah, I thought I thought that

552
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:23.800
you could not let go of a
player over a medical condition. The executive

553
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.960
note about it, you know who
knows. I don't know the story,

554
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.119
but I don't know. We gotta
call, we gotta call. All right,

555
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.719
let's take this caller. Hi,
you're on the air and I on

556
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.840
the ball. Hey you guys,
this is Gabe. How you guys doing

557
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:46.440
gable? Fine? Did you hear
our interviews? Yesterday? No? No,

558
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.760
no? Today? But let's go
ahead. I was gonna what's up,

559
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:55.480
Gabe? Uh? Nothing? Arizona
on Saturday, Arizona had a pretty

560
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.920
good day. The majority of the
football team came back and it's uh and

561
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:08.760
it's gonna we're running back and it's
gonna play uh uh for one more year

562
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:16.320
next year. And then Arizona beat
U C l A and and anyway,

563
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.800
so yeah, everything's going good.
What about you two? Well you heard

564
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:28.079
about Dave Hokey, Right, yeah, I don't understand why did they fire

565
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:35.880
him? That's kind of moron,
That's that's gay man. Tell it like

566
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.400
it is. It's an interesting thing. Are you worried about we were talking

567
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.719
about this at the start of this. Are you worried about all the chaos

568
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.519
and stuff going on over there?
Uh that you know how coaches might be

569
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:52.599
affected, players might be affected,
those kinds of things. I don't think

570
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.159
Brennan or Tommy Lowy is gonna will
be a factor of the players. I

571
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.440
mean, from what happened on Saturday, most of the Arizona football players are

572
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:07.360
going to be committed to play for
the university. And then I mean,

573
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:15.760
I don't really care about other people
outside of Arizona talking about the university.

574
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.159
That's just more opinions of sheep and
so and so can we talk about how

575
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:30.480
how how? How? Nick Krona
is a definition of a ask clown well

576
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:39.280
about your language. He doesn't take
responsibility for anything, just you. Likes

577
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:45.480
to blame everything and everything, including
our including our guy justin spears. So

578
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:53.679
he's a he's angry elf. Okay, Gabe, Okay, gave, thanks

579
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.360
for calling it. We always appreciate
you. We do, Hey, one

580
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:05.639
more scene in a boxing match,
who would win Bobby, Bobby Curley or

581
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:10.280
mc cronan. I think I think
I don't know because I'm not sure that

582
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.840
Hurley is necessarily younger than him.
I think Bobby Herley's got more of a

583
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:22.400
reach. Bobby Curley has the benefit
of acting like and uh mc cronan is

584
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:30.280
just he's very short. Only him
angry elf? Okay, Gabe, Thanks

585
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.599
Gape, appreciated, Gabe, Thanks
much. Man anytime bear down in Arizona,

586
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:40.239
co Cat How you do? Okay? Close? That was close?

587
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.239
Okay, all right, get back
to you know this thing has gotten so

588
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.840
big. There's congressional hearings right,
there's you know, there's lawsuits, there's

589
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.159
where is this a what where is
it going to get? And how so

590
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.519
you you've been here four years at
least. Okay, four years before you

591
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.239
got here was part of the year
before COVID or was it COVID, It

592
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.320
was cod it was COVID. I
graduate high school twenty twenty. Okay,

593
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.280
so you you came with COVID.
I think the kids. The kids were

594
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:14.159
like that. I actually did get
COVID my first week though, and I

595
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.719
had to go to the COVID dorman
because Robins came to the dorm and a

596
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.880
knocked and said, how are you
doing? Okay, like with his mascot,

597
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:23.360
right, And that's what I always
liked him since then. Okay,

598
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:29.840
so the players of the athletes were
not getting paid at that time right now,

599
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.119
So how do kids feel about that? Because you're a student. You're

600
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.800
a student, not a student athlete, but you're here going to school being

601
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.280
normal people. And now you have
student athletes getting paid, not a little,

602
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.000
a lot. I honestly think it's
a good thing. I think these

603
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:50.719
athletes are It's basically it's a huge
level. There's there are a lot of

604
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.159
pressure for big schools like Arizona that
the basketball team is highly ranked, the

605
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.079
football team is doing well now,
and they I think they go through a

606
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.920
lot and I think it's good they
get paid, right. I think they

607
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.360
deserve it. Honestly, they're going
through a lot. I don't know about

608
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:07.639
being employees of the university, right, but I think that's a little that's

609
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.119
like a fine line. But you
know, they're under a lot of pressure.

610
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.559
They're in the public eye. It's
like they're almost professional athletes. Okay,

611
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.079
okay, put yourself, put yourself
in the in the in the shoes

612
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:22.159
though of a quote unquote Olympic athlete. We have the We had Jordan Geist

613
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.519
on the show and Delaney Schnell and
we asked them both about any I'm not

614
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.519
getting any of that. So that's
for the football and the basketball players.

615
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.679
Yeah, Jordan Geist is a way
more accomplished athlete than pretty much anybody on

616
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.360
either of those teams, as well
as Delaney Schnell. Yet because of the

617
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.880
sport they're in, they don't get
the benefit of that. How fair is

618
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.360
that? I mean, that's not
very fair. But that's where the money

619
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.400
is. What can no one can
really do anything about that. People are

620
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.719
always going to watch football and basketball. They're too practical, Yeah, I

621
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.880
mean, but also football and basketball, like Berto was saying, it pays

622
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:04.199
for the other sports it does,
especially football, and is that fair?

623
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.079
Well? See, and that's one
of the things that I think is making

624
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.039
this thing harder than probably I'm not
gonna say that it needs to be.

625
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:17.960
It's just making this hard is that
you've got the college athletics is heavily weighted

626
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.519
in terms of revenue to men's basketball
and football. But there's so many people

627
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:30.880
who want all the athletes to be
treated equally, And how realistic is that?

628
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.519
Right? Should? You know?
The football athlete is helping to bring

629
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:39.079
in all this money, but they
there's people out there who want the gymnast

630
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.840
and the football athlete to get the
same thing you're talking to. We're talking

631
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.000
about all this debt at the university
is in eighty million dollars from the athletic

632
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:51.760
department. The reason it's not more
is because of the football team, right,

633
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.519
and the basketball team. And in
a perfect world, they would all

634
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.840
be treated the same, get all
the reason enough to go around around?

635
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:00.719
Yeah, but there's not. And
that's that's the deal. That's how I

636
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.559
don't understand how they're going to get
thirty thousand dollars each and it's gonna come

637
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.599
from the school. There's not enough
to go around, and you know,

638
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.400
and and and let and let's take
it down to a school. Now,

639
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.840
you don't even have to go to
a you don't even have to go to

640
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.159
a mid major school. Just go
to a school. It doesn't bring in

641
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:21.960
the revenue that say, you know, football high you're on the air and

642
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.239
I on the ball. Hey guys, how you doing, Howard? What's

643
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.360
up? Hey? Yeah? You
guys taught me something and I actually know

644
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.760
and have met over the years.
And some don't do it anymore, people

645
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:42.559
that are fundraisers on the educational side
and people that solicit gifts on the sports

646
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.239
side. But you guys are pretty
sharp. That makes a lot of sense

647
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.000
that you can't mix. You can't
solicit the educational and vice versa. You're

648
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.119
not supposed to supposed supposed to.
But I heard that they have. Yeah,

649
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.400
yeah, And I think that's part
of the conversation with the boosters from

650
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.760
yesterday's tweet. Yeah, you know, And that's no fault of he can.

651
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:05.440
I'm trying to remember how I knew
this, and it goes back to

652
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.079
a long, long ago history that
I you know, at a time when

653
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:14.079
I was I was helping raise journalism
scholarship money and there were people, and

654
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.559
it was through the u of A, and there were people I wanted to

655
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.639
approach and I was told you can't
approach him because that's a foundation. Yeah,

656
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.800
a foundation. There's only so many
deep pockets, man, And at

657
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.159
some point they're gonna say, I'm
sorry, I got nothing. Yeah,

658
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.800
I got a question. Then,
So if they are getting paid, like

659
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:37.800
your young lady said, can't they
be a little tougher on the and there's

660
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.480
under pressure on my hope the money
alleviates some of that pressure. And then

661
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.639
and then the coaches can catch coach
him like they're a little older than twenty

662
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:53.639
year old people or eighteen in the
case of kJ Lewis and what's his name,

663
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.920
Boswell, Kyler Boswell, Yeah,
I don't know. That's a fine

664
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.880
line. See, that was and
that's that's what Frank Bush was saying,

665
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.239
saying, Okay, so we're going
to pay you, but that comes with

666
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.159
some other things, right, like
as we said, like getting fired,

667
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:15.320
like maybe getting suspended without pay,
right if you get a dui, you

668
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.039
know, and then how does that
work for an athlete who's you know,

669
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:21.800
living on the edge with whatever money
they're getting, you know, or or

670
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.800
as you said, they get fired. If you get fired from your sport,

671
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.000
are you kicked out of school too? Right? You get to keep

672
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.079
your scholarship, you know, all
those things. So there's so it's again

673
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.800
so many layers in there that I
already figured it all out. I don't

674
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:39.119
know, and I guess I think
kJ should start and Boswell needs to go

675
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.880
to the bench. Real simple.
It might happen. Who knows. Every

676
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.519
time I see the lineup for game, I'm like, oh, in the

677
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.079
last day, the very last thing. I think Nico more than anybody.

678
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.199
He could just say, hey,
guys, we know his voice is the

679
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:58.440
most distinguishable to have anybody that calls. I think we can all agree on

680
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.920
that exactly, all right, Howard, Hey, thanks much. Hey.

681
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.920
Yeah, So I just got a
text for one of my sponsors, one

682
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.239
of the sponsors. Do you score? Thank you, Howard, thank you.

683
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.800
So I got a text for one
of the sponsers. Do you screen

684
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.239
your calls? No, he doesn't, but he says, it's a good

685
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.559
show. It's a good show,
so just don't cuss, Just don't cuss,

686
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.559
exactly, all right, good show, good stuff, you know,

687
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.599
Okay, Uh, if you're just
catching on right now listening the last few

688
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.960
minutes the podcast will be up.
We did get Humberta Lopez in the third

689
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.000
segment of the first hour. Very
interesting conversation. Wish we would have had

690
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.320
more time, you know, get
didn't get him again, not if you're

691
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.239
if you want, if you're gonna
listen with expecting him to rehash, you

692
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.639
know, the things that were said
about Jed Fish last week. That's that

693
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.000
didn't happen because we just were not
going there. But it was some really

694
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.719
interesting stuff about you know, contracts. He said he's got he got the

695
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.360
he's got a contract with t MAC. I don't know if he said with

696
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.880
the other two guys as well,
don't I think he really said that,

697
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.800
But certainly with with with the Tetroy
McMillan, the hand that he had and

698
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:06.719
helped getting those guys to stay.
Then just some of the other stuff that

699
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.440
a booster does. And then Frank
Bush with a lot of the stuff going

700
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:15.000
on as we released to nil.
He was deposed for a lawsuit UH involving

701
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.840
the Big the big UH powerful power
five schools and and and paying athletes and

702
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.559
all that kind of stuff. So
some kind of deep stuff for us,

703
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:28.559
Steve, beginning with your brain I'm
a little smart. Yes, I'm gonna

704
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.679
go have a drink. Yeah,
my brain hurts. Your brain hurts.

705
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:37.239
She's smart. There's a lot going
on. We had an Alisia who's gonna

706
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.679
be our Tuesday intern going forward.
So Analisa was learning how to run the

707
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.639
board, so she's gonna be all
over it uh next Tuesday. But we

708
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.639
appreciate you being Thanks for everybody for
listening. You can find us on Facebook.

709
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.119
I didn't finish that right on Twitter. The podcast will it gets posted

710
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.800
on iHeart Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
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711
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.480
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the numbers on the top of your head,

712
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:00.880
a lot of people are listening to
the people are listening to us,

713
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:06.800
and people are downloading our podcast several
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714
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.320
and we we're doing really well.
And so people out there listening to

715
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.320
us, and so you should be
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716
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.239
within an hour after the show is
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717
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:20.000
you can pick it up and catch
up with everything you missed during the show.

718
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.559
And again another really interesting show today. We had a lot of comments

719
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.320
on on the Dave Heiki uh separation
don't what you call it. Nobody has

720
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.199
said the word fire. No,
right, no, nobody said the word

721
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.360
It's not like Dave didn't like.
It's not like Day wanted to go however

722
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:37.119
you want to, however you want
to, however you want to put it.

723
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:38.760
But uh, yeah, you know, but jave Heik is no longer

724
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:43.679
going to be deathlike director after February
second. So all right, thanks everybody

725
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.480
for being here Hill follow the podcast
and you'll be able to get catch it.

726
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:47.679
Also, see you tomorrow