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On on? Are we on?
I assume we're on? Yes, yeah,

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probably Welcome to the CCO apprecial for
episode four four six, four forty

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six. Yes, sir, holy
shit, yeah we said that before we

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started. We're like, what is
going on? How are we still doing

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that? How are wow? Thanks? Do you man? This is our

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four hundred and forty six Saturday roughly? Yeah, sometimes we did double takes

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or sometimes we didn't record on Saturdays, but we're gonna call it that,

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right, four hundred and forty six
weeks? Dang, Like, that's what

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that means again roughly because we got
bonus episodes in there. Sometimes I think

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how many week? Like, how
many weeks or months? Is that too

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many? How many do we got
left? I don't know how to do

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math. How many more weeks are
we even gonna be alive? How many

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more weeks is there gonna be until
they start spoiling a new magic set?

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The answer is one. I was
gonna say zero because I think Bloomboro comes

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out like next week, and we've
already started dusk more and so there's a

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zero time frame in there, and
I assume that whatever comes after Dusk one's

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gonna come out and they're spoiling the
next super drop, which looks awful.

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By the bye oh you've been saying
that lately. We're not going to talk

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about that today. This week is
actually going to be the bloom Burrow preview.

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I do want to say one secret
Layer thing, just I'm not exactly

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sure when the release is. They're
doing the EDH Staple one again, which

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is they've they've literally done this exact
secret layer before. It's a command tower,

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assault ring, a lightning grieves,
a arcane signet, and the two

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drop mann rock that gives you infinite
hand size thought vessel, and they've done

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that before. It was like this
Galaxy treated one. If you're looking for

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those ones were so nice though,
And if you're looking for just like if

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you're firing them for some value,
that layer is worth so much money and

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you play every card in it.
And I would imagine that if you like

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the art on this new one,
if you're looking to like get like bang

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for your buck, it might seem
like it's cheap. And if you watch

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certain educational YouTube channels, they're probably
going to tell you that it's a piece

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of shit and you shouldn't buy it. But based on previous performance. I

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would I would say that it's probably
gonna be worth it if you like the

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art style, so maybe check that
out if you're if you're a lapsed Secret

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Layer human, I do very much
like that Secret Layer art style. I

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like that one, and I think
I've altered some of the cards in it

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because it came in foil and nonfoil. They look great and extended art by

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the way when I do it,
and the foils look fantastic because the art

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is really nice. Yep. And
yeah, I guess pick it up.

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Yep. Just check them out if
that's if that's your thing, so do

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the thing. Yep. So we
are talking about Bloomboro today. I said

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preview, but what I meant was
like the review. Yeah, review of

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the set. The whole set hasn't
done previewed as it has all been happened.

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Now, Yeah, it's all been
previewed and we are going to talk

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about it. We've got to say
we're brought to you by the wonderful patrons

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As Uncle Breando needed to wet his
whistle nice, which wetting your whistle sounds

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like it could be a Bloomborough card. See, now I can do it.

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Yeah, there you go, There
you go, And we've got the

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abilities up. We've got to do
the booster pack game. We've got to

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uh, we've got to do last
week's booster pack winner because somebody guessed Predator

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too. Yeah, Predator too.
Well, let's get into it right now.

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Simple sand Castle even two. I
think that that's Ben. I think

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Ben won once before and he won
again. Now Ben is like full Metal

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Scars or something. Is Oh,
who's simple sand Castle? Then? I

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don't know. But whoever you are, get out as a commander cookout at

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gmail dot com. Let us know
if you want a Cecio sticker pack huh,

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a Ceco token pack huh, or
a regular old loser pack. Yeah,

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maybe Bloomboro. Maybe I'll buy a
box of Bloomborough. You know what,

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there are a lot of cards in
Bloomboro that I'm going to play.

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And it's not because of like the
theme or the flavor or the new creature

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types that they're like bringing to the
forefront, like squirrel and raccoon and all

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the cutesy stuff that everybody loves and
all the pencil drawings that they're including.

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No, it's like coincidentally, this
cards is real good. This card just

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goes in a deck I have,
Like it could have no art and just

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be zeros and ones, and I
would play it because of like the native

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ability that's on it. It could
be those mystery booster test cards or whatever

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with no art. It's just black
and white. It looks like somebody shit

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onto a magic card. Yeah,
and man, I would just play it

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because it goes in a deck.
Like I counted, I think there's like

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seven decks of mine that are getting
cards. We're gonna talk about cards tomorrow.

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Yeah, Today is gonna be like
initial thoughts where to get stuff.

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I think we'll hit some mechanics.
We'll hit some more because there's a I

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think that following thunder Junction, going
into Bloomboro, I think that we've reached

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a well, let's just do it
now, a certain critical mass. There's

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so many treatments and there's so many
different versions of cards. Yes, I

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feel like they should start phasing out
the stretch sideways art rares because in this

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set there's like, however many rares, like over all the different treatments it's

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like one hundred rares and then there's
fourteen stretch side art ones. Can we

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call those wide screens? Tea Coats
called those wide screens, and I was

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like, Oh, that's such a
nice that's a way to sum up what

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the card is. It's exactly what
the card is. It's instead of looking

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at a TV screen, you're looking
at the wide screen versions. Okay,

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so I think it's time they just
phase those up, just get rid of

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them, and like for the but
what about the Commander cards that are in

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this Just make them foil. Just
just get rid of the wide screen cards

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at this point and just make more
showcase things. I wonder if, even

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if the showcase I would argue that
I think the showcase treatment in this particular

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set, the generic one is a
little lazy. I don't like it.

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It looks a lot like the Gravenka
buildings and the Copana art. What's that

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art style called art deco? Art
deco? Like, they don't look the

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same, but they are the same, just feeling too. Don't go too

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much into that right now, because
we'll look at all the cards tomorrow and

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Editor Joe will have them up all
on the screen and stuff. I just

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think it's time that they just take
the wide screen and just just get rid

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of it and just give us more
of the showcase stuff that I think a

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lot more people are more excited to
collect because it kind of feels like,

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as somebody that opens lots of collector
boosters, it's kind of a letdown when

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you get a wide screen foil of
a rare instead of a showcase or a

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whatever, right, because it's like, oh, man, like this is

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the shittiest cool version of any card, and I do people feel like Okay,

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so let's say they take away the
wide screens. Do people feel like

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that about a standard foil version.
Actually, I'm gonna answer my own question,

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Yes, they don't. They don't
feel like that because some people don't

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like, aesthetically the look of the
wide screen cards. And I'm one of

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them. If I go to Fusion
Gaming Online dot com and use one formo

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code CCO Summer to get a discount
on my magic card singles and they have

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a foil and a foil wide screen, I always buy the regular foil because

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aesthetically I don't like the look of
the wide screen. There you go,

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right, I usually don't buy the
showcase either because that would make for one

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card in my deck that like doesn't
match the rest, and not that I

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like everything to match, and not
that I like I'm not like you with

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nourn where everything needs to look different. I want I want every card to

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be different, and I don't want
all of my basics to match either.

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But nor do I want to be
like Trolley mismatch. All my basics have

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to be different to trawl people.
Because I'm a magic like I'm not either.

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I think, Okay, I'll sum
it up. Okay, I don't

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give a shit as long as I
have the damn card, as long as

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I own the card. But if
you look at like the this isn't an

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MPTG finance podcast, nor do we
ever profess to be for the most part.

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But I would stay, but I
would be I would guess based on

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like. Once the setsment out for
a little while, when you go out

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to buy a single of a certain
point, the tier list usually goes like

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it's the regular regular roled printing is
typically the same as the regular foil,

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yes, and then the these days
these days, and then the extended art

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foils in some cases are actually below
the widescreen nonfoil for some reason, and

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I'm not sure why, but I
still think it's time for them to go.

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Man, Like, Yeah, the
value of a foil that's not a

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showcase is just eating so much shit. Yes, I just maybe it's not

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that it's due showcase. I think
that's the point. And I mean you

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could go back and listen to Commander
Cookout or any hashtag MPTG finance podcast from

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two or three or four years ago
whenever Collector Boosters came out, and remember

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it was like, oh, they're
going to dive the price of foils pack,

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Like, the EV of a pack
is going to go down. The

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expected value of a pack is going
to go way down because when everything's foil

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and special and widescreen and showcase,
when everything special, nothing is. And

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then to build that EV back in
they gave us like the list cards and

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then serialized cards and then alternate art
stuff and now it's textured cards. Yeah,

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they made everything that's got any value
in an alter rare to keep the

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EV of a pack high. And
I like the world that we live in

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today because I can get a foil
or a showcase foil for nearly the same

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price I can get a foil for
in some cases a dollar more and in

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some cases the same price as the
non foil, depending on the deck that

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I want. Right, In most
cases, unless it's a super Chase card,

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you're looking at a buck or two. Very rarely they skip like the

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from modern sense, we should say, from sets these days, like in

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the last few years. If you
go back and you want to like a

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foil brainstorm from Mercadian masks like good
luck, yeah right, like shit,

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you're not kidding. But if I
want a brainstorm or a brain surge from

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modern horizons, three foil and not
foil. Not foil because I want to

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paint one or put it in my
Calimax deck. That it can't be foiling

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because people like alter them and sharpen
them when I play against them, right,

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or a foil one for the other
deck I played in and my fucking

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whatever deck. It is sure I
can get both and they're both like and

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we've said this on the show every
time we talk about this sort of thing.

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Good, I'm glad that that's a
thing. I don't want foils to

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be ninety nine dollars when the card
is a buck. Yeah, you know,

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I like that. I'm a fan
of that. Yeah, and if

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you're looking, if you're somebody like
me that aggressively foils their decks, it

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it's good. I like it.
I like it a lot. I don't

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want foils to be worth twenty five
times what the regular cards unless unless they're

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very old and I already own them, played them in dex correct and can

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flex on nubes. Yes, then
yeah, yes that as well. Yes,

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yes, like my my poor Man's
foil Fyrexian altar, it's actually a

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foil food chain five hundred dollars and
I'm like, I can't afford a Ferrexian

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altar, so I'm gonna play this
foil food chain. Yeah, right,

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there's the because you have it.
Yes, sometimes playing the cards you have

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is I just bought it like one
hundred years ago for like eight bucks or

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whatever. So we're talking about Bloomborough. Yeah remember that set, No it's

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coming out or that came out seventeen
years ago. Yeah, that's the red

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Wall set for those that are li
caning it to eighties properties. And I'm

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so happy that on Twitter on socials
other people kind of say that too,

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because it makes me feel like I'm
not just like I know a red Wall

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is it's not from the eighties,
it's from the nineties, or not that

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you know what it is, but
just that other people kind of got that.

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Sometimes I get the feeling that when
I call sets like this is the

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red Wall set, this is Commander
Master's and a cowboy hat, people think

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that I'm like dunking on the set
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I'm not because red Wall is cool. And to see like other people getting

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the vibe it makes me hap Yeah, it makes me feel like I'm being

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less of a dickhead, you know
what too is. Sometimes it's like,

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oh, everybody's so hyperbolic. Everybody
exaggerates all the time, right, Like

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ten billion people, every single day
of their life exaggerate one hundred percent of

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the time. Right. That's Uncle
Brando in a nutshell. I would liken

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Bloomborough to the Secret of nim as
well. That's another mouse story in both

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book form and cartoon form from the
nineties. I would not watership down where

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the rabbits cannibalize each other and stuff. Well, the rogans do do that,

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well they do, but not in
Bloomborough. And yes, man,

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wouldn't that be a set Bloomborow mixed
with dust Moarn hates each other. But

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yes, Watership Down another one where
warring clans of rodents are fighting each other.

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Yeah. Also movie and book.
Yeah, okay, so it's a

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rough one. It's a I don't
know, I never and one always kind

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of got to me. I was
like, oh, I don't know if

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I like well, yeah, because
it's shows like are you talking about the

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cartoon? Yeah, where the rabbits
like scratch and fight in each other.

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They didn't like that. I didn't
like that. I remember that being very

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grading to like six year old me. I remember that. Yeah, one

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hundred and six year old me was
the same. Mm hmm. So we

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got the bloomborough Abilities Yes, first
one. I like this one lots Offspring

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like offspring, lot offspring. Okay, so off Rate band, Oh it's

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your favorite Offspring song. I don't
like Offspring really? The band, Yeah,

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no, I don't like that.
I don't like them. The guy,

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the lead singer. Doesn't he have
like a PhD in microbiology? Yes,

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he's a smart guy. Yes.
Do you think he plays magic the

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gathering cards and plays Offspring cards?
I'll betty would. And it seems like

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somebody who's like contractually offering obligated to
just make the offspring offspring aided. Yeah,

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okay, So offspring is an ability
on Creach where you may pay an

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additional number of man, man,
I think it's usually two, is it?

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I think all the ones I've seen
it's two. Sure, let's say,

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okay, we're looking at one that
says offspring too, and that's too

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generic. Man, And you pay
two as you cast the spell. It's

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like kicker like everything. If you
do when this creature enters, you create

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a one to one token copy of
it. Cool, and this is good

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because we can get two of our
thing, Like if we're going to play

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the deck, we're gonna get two
of them. It's great. Is it's

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the token? So it works with
like anointed procession and doubling Season and all

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the all the token doubles. Do
you mean to say we've stumbled across the

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ability that finally makes doubling Season a
good card? Yes, sir, bloomborough

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baby, yep, power creed making
junk like doubling Season good. I'm actually

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going to play an offspring card.
Remember, I remember there's a lot of

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decks of mine that are getting Bloomborough
cards and the offspring landfall deal one damage.

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Guy, I'm playing that at my
lands deck. That's the one black

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right. Yeah, it's a lizard, and what's got offspring to ETB or

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land etb's deal one damage to target
opponents. Oh, mine is also a

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lizard because the offspring card I want
to play is a red one and it's

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impact tremors on a guy, but
it also has offspring. It's going directly

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into nor in the werry and it's
never leaving there we go, So you

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need like a fancy version of it. Of course there's only wide screen,

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maybe not even in foil. Yeah, because it's Commander. It's a Commander

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set, or it's in the Commander
set, so the wide screen that you

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would have to get from Electric Elector
pack won't be in foil unless they've started

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making them in foil. I'm not
one hundred percent sure if that's open this

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set, because sometimes they do,
sometimes they don't. But here we are.

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I got a question for you.
Sure, Okay, So a bunch

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of cards have token copies of them
that are one ones. Will there be

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a token version for every card that
has offspring. There's gonna be like twenty

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five different tokens to collect in this
set. I'm gonna say yes, and

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I'm gonna base that on amman Kat
and the second part of Ammonkit where they

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had the Mummy mechanic, the Revived
from Graveyard as a token eternalized because they

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did do a token for each creature
in there. And this is of note

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if you want to get all of
them. If you bought the bundle of

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Ammon Kit Slash, what is it
something of devastation out of Devastation you could

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get like in the token pack that
comes with that bundle, you got one

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of each, So you can find
them in foil and collector packs. They're

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gonna show up in regular packs somewhere
and you're gonna probably be able to get

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a full set of nonfoil in a
bunch, which is cool. If you

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look at the Collector I'm looking at
the ability article, it doesn't say that

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you get them like a pack of
them in the bundle, but they're mostly

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on commons and on commons there's a
few rares that have it. I'm sure

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that the tokens will be available.
It stands to reason that they'd probably do

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that, as they have done it
in the past, and I would argue

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that it was a very appreciated thing. Much like when they did checklist cards

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and you got like in your bundle, you just got like a bunch of

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them, right. Yeah. If
there's something that you're going to kind of

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need to play a game piece,
they usually send them out or there's just

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gonna be a billion copy tokens,
which is just a bunch of shit.

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Yeah, okay, next ability gift. I don't like this mechanic. I

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don't think there's any cards that I'm
even interested or entertaining the notion of playing

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with gift. I think the five
man a wrath that gets one of your

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dudes back if you gift a card. I kind of don't hate that one.

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But I don't think this is a
particularly amazing And I don't like the

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kitschy, gimmicky, like fairy taily
cutesy language that they use to describe you

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know that. I don't like that
kind of stuff. And I'm compromising on

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the set saying I love the art
in the set. I like the art

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direction, I like the little plays
on words and like hop to it the

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rabbit card, right Like, I
like that kind of stuff. It's funny,

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but I don't like this. Gift
a card or gift of bluefish is

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a gift to tapped fish, gift
of food, whatever, gift a card.

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That's like giving them a card.
When you play a spell, you

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may promise an opponent a gift as
you cast this spell. Yes, so

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it hasn't resolved yet. Ooh makes
it even worse. Yeah, because what

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if they counter it? Exactly,
I'm promising you a gift thanks for the

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card, dickhead. Oh man,
you gift them when you when you cast

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the spell. If you do when
it enters or resolves or whatever, they

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draw car card, So I've already
promised it to you. Then you decide

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to counter it and you say you
promised shitty. I don't like that.

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I don't I don't like those those
cards. It's not like you draw the

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card and it's a counter spell and
you counter the thing, but like you

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got it, things like well,
idiot, and then you Yeah, I

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don't really like the mechanic A lot
and the cards that it's on are fine,

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and they grant some kind of bonus
when you give them something. Just

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make the card cost one more.
But then people wouldn't play it right,

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because manna is the currency of the
game. You having an extra card might

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be worth it. Or in some
cases, like the removal spell one where

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I give you a fish and I
get to kill your guy, Like,

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think of those are better removal spells
that do that. I always think of

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the draw card ones or it's like, goddamn it, you're just gonna god

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damn it. Yes, yeah,
yeah, is any one card? Is

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a random card in your deck better
than the thing I'm doing? Yeah?

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Right, like steal your creature but
you can draw a card, yeah,

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like and then you give the creature
back. Oh. Man, See,

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I don't I don't know. Gift
if it ball, it's not the worst

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thing I've ever seen, but I
don't like it. I think the lower

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the power the meta you're playing in, the better gift gets if you're giving

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them cards. But I ain't given
nobody gifts in like ceedh. I don't

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think. I ain't given shit to
chumps, no chance. Okay, Next

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ability, this one's good forage.
Forage is there's a lot of hoops to

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forage, okay, which I think
makes it a fridge. Yeah. If

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you build around the hoops, it's
good to forage exile three cards from your

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graveyard or sacrifice a food Yes,
because the food deck needed more stuff.

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Not the food deck is amazing,
but like they're pushing food on us really

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hard. Well. Food food are
like sort of evergreen now and they're around

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in many sets and they use things
like food to connect sets, right,

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like from Lord of the Rings to
thrown of El Drain, food, food

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was like the through line, right
and now from last year's thrown of El

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Drain or wildvel Drain to this year's
Bloomborough food Again, food is the new

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treasure. Oh that's a take.
That's a take. While adding a cost

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to something gives you more stuff.
And if this stuff that's in my graveyard

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is just there and I'm not using
it, I might as well use it,

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right, ditch it? Yeah,
ditch it. Yeah. Forage is

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good and we're gonna maybe read some
Forage cards tomorrow. The one I'm looking

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at now, I'm gonna read tomorrow. Oh wait, this can be the

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card that you get into the guessing
game with because we're gonna read this one

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tomorrow. Neither one of us can
say the first word in the name.

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Well, we started to say it. I hope nobody. I'll just edit

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that part out hanging. No,
nobody's gonna nobody's gonna know that. And

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it has four ridge and it's a
really good card. That's it. No,

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you called it something though, under
squirreled breach. There we go,

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Yeah, under squirreled breach. There
everybody's gonna get that. This card is

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freaking good. That card's a good
one. So there's there's how you get

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entered into whin the CEO sticker pack, Ceco token pack, a regular old

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ship bag card box, the Magic
Cards pack of magic card Magic cards.

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We're not dripping in in packs yet. Yeah, okay, this this set's

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limited mechanic Valiant to a Valiant is
target of a speller ability for the first

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time each turn something happens. So
this is a like a shitty version of

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an already out there mechanic that I
can't remember the name of. Is it

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prowess heroic heroic where you target you're
whenever somebody becomes a target of something,

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something happens. Yes, which already
had some really good abilities like draw card

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and gets a plus some plus some
counter or fights a guy or whatever,

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like they're already really good. So
now we have that but shitty but Valiant

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because it only happens once once each
turn. Yeah, it's each turn.

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Yeah, so is the other one. Yeah, well no, the other

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one is whenever. It's all the
time, forever, well, exactly on

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any turn. It's just Valiant.
Use heroic. These can be heroic creatures.

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They are heroic creatures. Just use
the ability. Again, I tend

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to agree. And when you talk
about complexity and parasitic mechanics and barrier to

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entry, well, Valiant makes the
game more complex. At the same time,

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if somebody's learning the game with Bloomborough
and learning what Valiant is, they're

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gonna have no idea that theros is
even a set, and they're not gonna

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know that Heroic exists, so like
it doesn't really matter. But if they

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gave it heroic and they thought,
well, yeah, I like this game,

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I'm gonna keep playing it, and
they're gonna see other cards with heroic

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and go, I know what that
does as opposed to what the what the

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hell is this? Now it's another
thing and they goes, well, this

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is just Valiant, and then they
have the same conversation that we're having right

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now with the guy that's teaching them
how to play. Yep, I don't

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think I'm going to play any cards
with Valiant. Nope. I don't play

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any cards with Heroic. Okay,
and that's the genital. Play a single

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card with Throic Okay. The next
one I like expend. I like this

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is clever, and I hope that
we see expend come back and back and

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back and back with all kinds of
numbers and variations. So expend to expend

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or you expend as you cast a
certain amount of manna during a turn.

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Yes, so expend four is what
we normally see. And to expend for

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you spend your fourth total manna to
cast spells during a turn? Yes?

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Now, no, is it every
time you pay for? No? The

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first four? This is what I
was going to say, is there's a

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whole bunch of little little subtleties to
this. You expend four as you spend

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your fourth total manna, your fourth
total mana okay, to cast a spell?

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Yes, during a turn. So
I can expend four during my turn.

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But if I expend four more,
nothing happens. I've already spent four

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total mana, So spending eight total
mana doesn't do anything, and it has

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to be to cast spells, not
activate abilities. It's smart and it's oh

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yeah, and it's during anybody's turn, so it doesn't just work on my

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turn, right, So lots kind
of to unpack there, But because of

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there's so much to kind of there's
so much built into that that they could

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do like expend eight and have like
some real powerful thing, or expend one

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right like it gets a counter or
it gets whatever, untap it, and

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it's built right in there that when
you expend four, like they don't need

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all of the extra words saying only
triggers once per turn or only during your

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turn or whatever. Like all of
the rules and reminder text builds right in.

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It's very clean mechanic. I like
that one. I like that one,

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and I think there's a couple of
cards even then I sort of liked

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about it. So maybe I'll see
some expend cards in my decks. I

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you know what I think we're gonna
see is we're gonna see the expend Raccoon

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deck, because all the raccoon creatures
are the ones with expend in Bloomborough.

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And I'm not gonna be the one
to preview next week's episode where we talk

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about legendary creatures. But I will
say that the experimental expend creature. Yeap,

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cruel, Yes, just like always, they're gonna do the legend it's

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gonna be the cruel one. There
we go, There you go, there

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you go. Now, No,
that's that's one too. Yeah, final

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one. I was just seeing if
it was the final one. Is this

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the this is the first time we've
done something like paw prints? Yes,

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right, because you have it's like
a what's the word. I'm like a

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unit of resource. You have a
limit number of resources yep, that the

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card gives you when you cast it, and then you use it right then

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and you don't save it. You
have to use them. And in the

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case of the seasons, they give
you I think they'll give you five units

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of pop print. Yeah, and
then the card tells you what to spend

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them on. You expend them and
they're gone. I dig that. I

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like that. Yes, it's it's
a resource that you just you just get

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because of the card. What these
are is the modal spells from like Commander

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fifteen or whatever. The uh yeah, well, it's it choose one or

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choose four modes. You can pick
the same one more than once. Yes,

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same gimmick, except instead of picking
four modes, you pick five pop

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prints worth of stuff, five worth
of modes, and they all have a

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one pop print mode, a two
pop print mode, or a three pop

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print mode. Yeah, so you
can pick. You can pick the one

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five times, you can pick like
the one three times and the two once

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right, like there's any combination.
And these are all so frickin' good.

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These are gonna be cards that we
see in Commander, no doubt. And

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something I like about these specifically is
there's nothing that gives you extra pop prints.

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You can't have an enchantment in play
there correl oops. I gave myself

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nine more pop prints. I can
do the three mode a bunch of times.

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I like that it's very self contained. The card does what it does,

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and they're probably not gonna put something
out that's gonna let you correct get

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extra pop prints in this case.
Now you want to talk about parasitic these

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little pop prints. We're never gonna
see these again, and they're not gonna

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print these into pre cons like four
years from now, and when somebody sees

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this, they're gonna go, what
the hell is that? Right, Like

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in four or five years or whenever
we get like like Commander twenty twenty eight

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or whatever. Right, it's gonna
feel it's gonna be an anachronism where it

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feels like it's like out of time, like from a different time period,

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and it's like these are these are
weird. They could do these in any

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set though, like they what's the
next one? Dusk worn? Yea?

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They could have brains for example,
or like every set could have a just

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different variation of this and who cares, it's neat, right, Like we'll

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see cards like this again. They
just won't have pop prints on them exactly.

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Just replace pop prints with numbers,
right, like one, two,

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and three and choose until you equal
five, like that is what the card

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does. And again ones and zeros
could just be cards, right, but

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they they use little pop prints because
we're in valley and that's like the the

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it's all these little animals live.
It's so cheesy, but it's fun and

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it's cute, and I get it, right, I think it would have

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been better and I'm gonna say that, I'm gonna say better if each season

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had like a different animal footprint,
like if they had like the little mouse

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footprint and the rat foot and the
rabbit foot and the frog thing and right,

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I think that would be kind of
fun. But because you can do

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that kind of shit with this stuff, which is cool, I like that.

429
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Yep. Yeah, those are all
of our new mechanics. Those are

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the new mechanics. Some of them
I like, well, the seasons I

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love. These are good cards.
I'm gonna probably buy it, like the

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whole cycle, one of each,
just to have them because I know that

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there's gonna be places I'm gonna play
them. Yep. I like Expend just

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because it's clean and good, and
I like it even though not complaining cards

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that have it. Valiant can s
my whole dye. Forage is powerful and

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we're gonna we're gonna see some Forage
gift can cough well gift like the Gift

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Removal spell. I'm gonna put the
Gift Removal spells in my deck, just

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like I would put Generous Gift or
like Beast within or whatever, right sure

439
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or the Monkey one Pongafi and yeah
reality shift or whatever yeah what you said,

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Reality Shift, Ye Shift and Offspring. There is one or two cards

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that that I love. I really
like that mechanic. I like when you

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draw, like your little card and
it does the thing that it's supposed to

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do. But if you draw it
late game, when you're top ticking or

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something, thing, it actually gives
you something to do with the five hundred

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manning you got. Yes, like
like Kicker. Yeah, like drawn Erza's

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Rage in two thousand and one and
killing your friend because it's ten damage.

447
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Yes, that's exactly it. Yeah, they should have printed Erza's Rage in

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this set. I used to be
my favorite card. Dang yeah, my

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card before brash Hauntered existed. My
favorite card was Decimated. Man. Okay,

450
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we're a little long on the tooth
here, but I played three games

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of Magic at EDH and M the
other day and I got a ruling on

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Decimate wrong before the game even started. And then I played two more games

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and Decimate ruined me in both of
them from different players. Like every game

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had something to do with Decimated and
I just got pounded every day. That

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card is so good. Didn't win
a freaking game? Oh do you have

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a sack outlet? No, old
baby? Okay, have you ever had

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your life just fucked? Have you
ever been decimated? And it's so salty

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when you pick all four target from
one guy. I remember I used to

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do that to Alex all the times's
I'll kill your land I'll kill your guy,

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I'll kill your chapman, I'll kill
yoursel and just to be safe,

461
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i'll kill your sol ring too,
or all kill your food token because you're

462
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tapped out? Yeah, well are
you picking for everything? Shut up?

463
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:17.240
Shut up, get decimated new Okay
for forty six Tomorrow, we're gonna talk

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about the rest of Bloomboro. We've
got a couple of little bits of podcasting

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business to start to show off with, and then we're gonna jump right into

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like cards and stuff, got cards
and art styles and and where to get

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some of this shift? Yeah,
where to collect some of it? Right

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man? That's always I think that
that's insightful for people right own, and

469
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.319
we try to be insightful. Well, you just know where to get it,

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get all the stuff. And I
just don't give a crap because I

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know that, Like I can get
the singles that I want, and I

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know that you know where to get
stuff because you open sealed product. If

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you open packs, I can tell
you where to get stuff. If you

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don't open packs, you just go
to Fusion Gaming Online Dot com you see

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CEO summer, get yourself the stuff
that you want. There you go,

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okay for hit our themes o bluebert
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