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Hello, and welcome to Western Sieve
Episode two hundred and thirty eight. Who

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needs Orders Anyway last time we met
Hernan Cortez. So far, there really

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hasn't been much to distinguish Cortes from
his predecessors Cordoba or Grivala. So far,

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he simply sailed along the coast,
met many of the same tribes as

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Grivala, fought a few minor engagements, and discovered nothing of any real consequence.

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In this episode, however, Cortez
is going to begin to become the

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Cortes will come down through history.
This is the moment when history changes,

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the hinge point, when Cortes goes
from being a run of the mill explorer

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to the conquistador we all know.
Really the first thing he needs to do

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in order to get there is jettison
Governor Wilasquez his orders. So long as

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he remains constrained by those, Cortez
can never become Cortes. Today, he

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takes that momentous step and starts down
the road to technosh Declan. Back in

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the capital of the Mexica Empire,
Montezuma, decided to appease these mysterious visitors,

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whether they were gods, or not, they were to be given everything

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they wanted, so long as they
went away. He sent down the host

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more emissaries with more and more elaborate
presence. At this point, Montezuma was

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clearly distressed, supposedly saying, quote, all of us will die at the

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hands of the new gods, and
those who survive will be their slaves and

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vassals. They are the ones to
reign now, and I shall become the

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last ruler of this land. Even
if some of our relations and descendants survive,

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they will be subordinates, like tax
gatherers and quote. In spite of

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all this, Montezuma apparently gave a
separate order. This one suggests that he

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didn't know who he was dealing with. He told his agent to quote,

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discover with absolute certainty, if he's
one of our ancestors, a god.

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If he is, greet him and
give him these presents from me. If

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he eats and drinks which you give
him, he is surely one of our

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gods, as he will be shown
to be familiar with our food. Then

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tell him to allow me to die. Tell him that after my death he

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will be welcome to come here and
take possession of his kingdom as it is

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his. But let him allow me
to end my days here. Then he

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can return to enjoy what is his. If by chance, he does not

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like the food which you have given
him, and if he is desirous of

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eating human flesh and would like to
eat you, allow yourself to be eaten.

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I assure you I will look after
your wife, relations, and children.

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And quote not exactly the marching orders
you want to get from your boss.

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So when the Mexica emissaries arrived on
the coast, they asked for Cortez,

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who was that day on his ship. Cortez gave worth that the emissary

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should be brought to him. He
dressed as much like a king as he

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could. The Mexicans bowed before him
and kissed the deck. They offered to

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have ten slaves sacrificed for him then
and there, an offer he adamantly refused.

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They then made the speech Montezuma had
written for him. Quote, pray

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that the God will hear us,
Your lieutenant, Montezuma comes to give homage

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to you. He has the city
of Mexico in his charge. End quote.

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So far this was a pretty normal
exchange for the Mexica Cortes thought it

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was all beyond bizarre. The Mexicans
then got to the heart of it.

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They asked Cortes point blank whether it
was his intention to go to technosht Clan

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on his behalf. Marina, his
key translator at this point, said that

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it was his intention to go to
Technoshticlan to see Montezuma and quote enjoy his

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presence end quote, But first he
had to organize his affairs on the coast.

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He hoped for guidance as to the
best way to get to technosoty Clan.

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At this point, the Mexicans insisted
on bleeding themselves, probably from their

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ears or wrists. One of them
offered Cortes some blood in the shape of

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an eagle. Cortes got angry and
gave some Mexicans some blows with the flat

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of his sword. The emissaries,
who were standing much too close to this

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for comfort, then fell to the
deck in shock. The crew picked them

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up, revived them with some food
and drink and wine, but Cortes continued

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to bully them as best he could. This is all through interpreters, of

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course, but he said to them, quote, listen, I have known

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herd that you Mexica are very strong, exceedingly brave, tremendous people. It

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has been said that one Mexican can
pursue drive on overcome turn back even twenty

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of his enemies. I wish to
test you, to see how strong you

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are, how powerful. He gave
them leathers, shields, and steel swords,

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and then continued early in the morning, at dawn, we shall fight

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and try our strengths. We shall
joust in pairs and see who falls.

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Of course, the emissaries who had
gone there to see if they were gods

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or I guess to be eaten,
were terrified, but they responded, quote,

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this is not what your lieutenant Montezuma
commanded us to do. We have

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only come to salute our lord.
We cannot do what you ask of us.

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If we were to do such a
thing, we would annoy Montezuma and

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he would punish us. Cortes wasn't
willing to be pushed off this point.

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He wanted his little dog and pony
show, so we responded, no,

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it must be as I say,
I wish to marvel at your prowess,

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for it is known even in cass
Steele clearly a lie that you are very

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powerful and valiant. Now let us
eat and in the morning we shall fight

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with that. He allowed the Mexicans
to go back to their canoes. Now,

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presumably he had no intention of jousting
with them. More than anything else,

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this was courts testing them. Probably
he just wanted to observe how they

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would react to ruthlessness. But the
Mexica instantly set off for shore and rode

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with energy. When they reached the
shore, and the Mexicans did not stop

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for a moment before starting for a
technosoty clan. After arriving in the capitol,

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the emissaries reported to Montezuma what they
had seen. Montezuma quickly called a

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court council to discuss the situation.
After a brief discussion, Montezuma issued his

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decision. If these men's were gods, then they should be barred from the

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capitol at all costs. If they
were gods, then they were returning to

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claim their land and Montezuma would fight
them to the death. If the men

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were well men, on the other
hand, and they should be welcomed as

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guests. It might sound odd to
us, but Montezuma was ready to do

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battle with gods, not men,
But the council was not over. Montezuma

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allowed his brother to speak. He
told the emperor, quote, my advice

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is not to allow into your house
someone who will put you out of it.

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He was not the only one to
offer advice. The King of Texcoco,

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who was also a nephew of Montezuma, gave this advice quote, my

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advice is that if you do not
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such as the King of Spain appears
to be, it is a low thing.

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Since princes have the duty to hear
the ambassadors of others. If they

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come dishonestly, you have in your
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End quote. Now, the Mexica
workspery, instant receiving guests. They often

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received foreign princes in order to demonstrate
their grandeur and on occasion savagery. Vast

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numbers of people came to their markets, often from remote parts. They had

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tons of lodgings for visitors. This
was a known thing. At the end

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of the discussion, most of those
presents seemed to have taken the view that

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they should do everything that they can
to prevent the arrival of Cortes To technoso

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decan. They should declare themselves willing
to do anything which the visitors wanted,

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but they should insist that it was
impracticable for Montezuma to meet Cortez. The

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Emperor would under no circumstances go to
the coast. You would be told that

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the road is long and arduous and
full of enemies. They also decided it

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would be well if the magicians of
Mexico could be assembled and ordered to be

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used, and so Montezuma sent his
quote wizard and soothsayers and quote to the

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coast to see if they could work
a spell over the Congista doors. Perhaps

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there was a way to well make
them I don't know. Vanish, the

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Mexican governor of the province, appeared
before Cortez's camp or Undmay the first You

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again brought presents, cottons, feather
work, but above all two large gold

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and silver covered wooden disks. Though
Montezuma gave the Europeans many gifts, these

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two discs are the ones that stand
out in all the Spanish records. If

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anyone thought it was a mystery what
the Europeans were after, they weren't paying

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attention. The governor told Cortes that
they could continue to provide gold so that

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Cortes could heal his sickness. A
meeting with Montezuma, however, that was

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out of the question. Cortez gave
the governor a set of Spanish clothing as

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a present. He then pressed him
on the issue of a meeting with Montezuma.

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Cortes dressed it was essential because if
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then he Cortes would fall into disfavor
with his king. Why this was the

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Mexicans problem, I'm not sure,
but Cortes seemed certain it was. The

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governor said he would pass along Cortes's
message, though it was unlikely to make

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a difference. Before going, he
tried to convince the Europeans to move their

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camp inland. While this would have
protected them from the mosquitos on the coast,

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it also would have made them easier
to surround. Cortes declined. As

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soon as the official was gone,
Cortes was visited by about twenty Teutonic Indians

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from Kempolan, some twenty miles up
the coast. These Totanaks seemed taller than

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those in the towns that he had
previously visited. They had come, they

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said, on behalf of their lord, who had maintained himself independent of Montezuma.

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This was not true exactly, since
though autonomous, he did pay tribute

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to the Mexico. But Cortes was
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from the paramount power of Technoshti Klan. He was positively delighted by their resertion

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that many peoples who had accepted subservience
to Mexico as a result of military defeat

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during the last hundred years, regretted
it. The vassals of the Emperor of

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Mexico seemed to receive little from him, except vague promises of help in the

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event of famine, But Cortes remained
unsure of his next being. That said,

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he found the information pleasing. He
knew from history that it had been

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easier for the Spanish to defeat the
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Perhaps he could do the same here. But these were not the only

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divisions going on. Some of Cortes's
men had begun to grumble. They wanted

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to go home. Some felt Cortes
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Discipline was becoming a problem. Some
sailors had been seen bartering with locals for

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gold, but pursue into his orders, Cortes had to be the only one

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who collected gold so that the king
might get his fifth. There was trouble

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brewing, but before this matter came
to a head, Montezuma's wizards got to

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work. They reached Cortes's camp with
no difficulty. Presumably there were many Indian

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servants running about Mexican at Tutanac,
so entry wasn't difficult. The magicians tried

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all sorts of tricks, but they
found that quote if the Spaniards find to

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flee in their ear, they would
kill it end quote. There was another

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trouble quote the Spanish spent all night
talking and at dawn or at their horses

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again end quote. Their flesh was
also just so tough that it was impossible

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to know where their hearts were.
The men of magic ultimately returned to Montezuma

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with bad news. Quote we are
not equal contenders. We are nothing in

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respect of them. End quote.
Soon after this, the Mexican governor appeared

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once more for a third time.
He told Cortez he might as well go

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home. He could not see Montezuma
and there was no point in trying to

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do so. Cortez said he absolutely
had to see Montezuma and there was no

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getting around it. Angry, the
governor immediately stopped the provisions the Mexica had

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been making available to the Europeans.
Cortes assumed this was a prelude to an

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attack. He sent one hundred men
armed with crossbows and arquebuses into the interior

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to look for corn. Cortes had
long since used up his supply of munitions.

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If the men did not find a
source of food, they would starve.

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As these men explored, they again
came across what they believed to be

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evidence of human sacrifice. The repeated
discovery of evidence of human sacrifice served to

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permanently sour relations between Europeans and the
natives of Mesoamerica. This was something new

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to Europeans. They had not encountered
any human sacrifice amongst the Tyanas of the

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Caribbean. The practice of human sacrifice
and the need to stop said practice was

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often a European justification for how they
treated these people. Moving forward, and

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spoiler alert that is not going to
be positive. But these discoveries also served

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to fuel the arguments of those who
wanted to return to Cuba immediately. While

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this group continued to agitate and argue
for a return, another group wanted to

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do just the opposite. Cortes seems
to have long considered the possibility of establishing

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a settlement on the coast. This
would have been a direct contravention of the

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orders Velasquez had given him, but
still in Cortes's mind, it was the

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prudent thing to do, and there
were others on the expedition who agreed with

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him. Cortes wanted to stay,
but he didn't want it to look like

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it was his idea. So what
he did next was very clever and likely

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changed the course of history. Cortez
made it known that he had agreed with

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those who wanted to leave. They
were running out of supplies, so they

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needed to go home. What this
did, though, was give his friends

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the opportunity to object. Those who
wanted to stay now loudly proclaimed their intention

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to found a settlement, which was
what Cortez wanted. They called on him

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at once quote in the name of
God and the King end quote to found

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a colony. After all, they
argued, the Mexica would probably never let

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them land again. This might be
their only chance. Furthermore, if some

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people wanted to go home, then
let them. Those who had the adventurous

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spirits would remain. Cortez publicly pretended
to hesitate. Privately, he was already

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searching for the best place to found
a colony. He very much wanted a

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place that had a good port.
Cortes recognized that Spanish strength lay at sea,

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and wherever he built a port,
it needed to be able to be

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resupplied by the ocean. Cortes did
not want to commit to the idea of

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a settlement until he had picked out
a place and then could argue just how

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prosperous the site might be. While
certain representatives who were loyal to Velasquez were

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away, Cortes called together a meeting
of the rest of the men. He

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told them all that he was interested
in serving the king, serving the King

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more than anyone else, and in
order to effectuate that, he was going

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to order that they all ceased trading
in gold with the natives, as they

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had been doing up until then.
Then, with a show of reluctance,

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he agreed to found a city to
be called via Rica de la Vera Cruz.

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The men of the expedition would constitute
its population. The name derived from

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the fact that the land was rich
ricca Vera Cruz. The true cross would

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recall that they had landed there on
Good Friday. Cortes continued, addressing as

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men in sensible terms. It was
obvious that the indigenous peoples of Mexico were

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more civilized, more reasonable, and
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There was evidently much more territory than
what they had seen. They should build

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walls and fortifications, as the Portuguese
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built the place, they could unload
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the betrayed with the people of Kempolana
and other places known to be hostile

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to Mexico. Each member of the
expedition would become a citizen the casino of

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the new municipality, with the right
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Cortes knew exactly what he was doing. He had studied Velasquez, and

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this is exactly how Velasquez had founded
new Cuban towns. In fact, Cortes

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himself had often been the notary confirming
these arrangements, but he did something original.

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Having studied in Salamanca and having worked
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a case could be made for thinking
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authority, authority would revert to the
community, which would then be able to

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elect its own legal representatives. And
so a number of people close to Cortes

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were then to be named the first
magistrates and counselors of the town. There

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seems to have been a vote then
and there, probably determined by a show

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of hands. Ultimately, all these
men had titles that were identical to those

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which they might have held in far
away Castile. Cortes was then called upon

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by the councilors, these new councilors
of Villa Rica de Vila Cruz, to

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show them the instructions with Velasquez had
given him. He produced the paper,

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and this paper showed that well Cortez
had completed his mission, he had no

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authority to act anymore, and therefore
the town councilors, who had been elected

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ten minutes earlier, declared that his
mission was concluded. He therefore resigned his

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offices. But of course this resignation
was a charade, because immediately afterwards,

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and most assuredly by prior arrangement,
the town council nominated Cortes as chief Justice

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Sie of Villa Rica, as well
as captain of His Majesty's armies until the

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king should decide other wise. Now, Cortez in his writings would always refer

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to these nominations as a quote unquote
election, but in reality, the men

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who had just picked Cortes to lead
this new settlement had themselves been hand picked.

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But then again, as Bo's appearance
as matters we went through the motions,

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the character of the expedition now changed
absolutely and decisively. He was not

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merely an explorer working on behalf of
Governor of Alaskaz. Once Cortez established his

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own settlement and town council, you
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to correspond with the governor at all, because they were now outside his jurisdiction.

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Cortes's enemies would later denounce all these
actions as a rebellion. Cortes's argument

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was different. Traditional Spanish medieval law
provided that a populace could form a municipal

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council, all laws could also be
set aside by the demand of the good

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men in the community. In Mexico, this quote ute community was the expedition

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itself, in which Cortes's friends were
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minority. Now, none of the
conquisadors since the very first journey of Columbus

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had considered acting as Cortes was doing
right now. The only one who had

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come close was Balboa, who had
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but he had not thought of asserting
autonomy while bypassing the governors incented Domingo

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and insisting on direct dependence on the
crown. Moreover, he got killed by

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Native Americans, rendering the whole question
moot. In Cuba, Velasquez had founded

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towns which developed their own identities,
but he had consulted with the authorities in

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Hispaniola before making his plans. Perhaps
Cortes knew he was breaking the law.

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Later on he was often heard to
say, quote, if laws have to

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be broken in order to reign,
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Once the council elected Cortes to his
position, that did something else unusual.

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They decided that once the royal fifth
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then Cortes would take a fifth for
himself. Cortes was now effectively equivalent to

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the king. This decision had a
tangential impact. It was much easier to

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divide up gold and silver if it
was first melted down. As a result,

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almost no pre Columbian gold work from
Mexico remains today. Again, blame

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Cortez if you are angry about that. He would later explain his system as

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follows quote. So they had set
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of maintaining themselves saved by relying on
what they had taken with them. Cortez,

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like Caesar, he oftentimes refers to
himself in the third person. Therefore,

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would take what he needed for himself
and his staff, while the rest

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would be valued at the right price
and then distributed among the men of the

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expedition. Quote. Cortes liked to
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some sort of consensus vote. In
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quote men of the expedition end quote
were of a very limited nature. The

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rank and file and sailors were likely
never consulted at all. Some of the

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men would later say that Cortes had
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but they did not talk of it
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Like any self serving explanation or excuse, it's impossible to know just how true

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this statement was. Cortes had decided
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Cruz, a site that would later
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this, he led himself four hundred
men, the horses, and four pieces

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of artillery to that place of land. In the end, he had done

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it. That's the bottom line.
Cortes had crossed his rubicon. He had

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violated velasquez his orders in a way
that no one could question. Depending on

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the outcome of the years ahead,
he would either be a hero or a

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traitor, the line between the two
often being razor. Then, the failure

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of Montezuma's magicians to make the conquistadors
disappear disheartened the emperor. According to one

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source quote, there was weeping dejection
and tearful greetings end quote. Excepting for

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the moment that the Europeans were going
to march on technosht Khan, Montezuma decided

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he would do everything in his power
to slow them down. Maybe he reasoned

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if he threw enough discomfort in their
path, they would turn back. He

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does not seem to have considered the
idea that he might send a massive military

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force to just wipe them out again. They might be gods, but they

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might be emissaries of some distant and
powerful king. Was not willing to take

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that risk yet. Montezuma stationed messengers
along the road to technosh declan to bring

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news of any developments, and the
first news he would have gotten would have

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been that Cortes had set out for
Verna Cruz. I'm generally going to just

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use the modern name for the city, just for simplicity, and they did

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so honor, about June seventh,
fifteen nineteen. The journey was about forty

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miles if you could draw a straight
line, which you couldn't. Still,

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it should have taken Cortez about two
days, and it took much much longer.

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This is because Cortez stopped at the
village of Campalan, the seat of

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the Totanas, whose chief was an
enemy of Montezuma. Cortez was still looking

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for allies, and he was not
disappointed. The Indians welcomed the Europeans with

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gifts of turkeys and tortillas. One
hundred or so came out to greet Cortes

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and his men. The people there
were utterly fascinated by the horses. At

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first, they believed the men were
some kind of centaurs, that they and

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the horses were won. The mistakes
went both ways, however, Cortez's men

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reported back that the homes within the
town were roofed entirely with silver. They

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weren't. It was white paint gleaming
in the sun. But I can say,

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man, know, sometimes you see
what you want to see. The

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city of Kemplan was large, about
fourteen thousand souls. All told, The

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Totnox could count about two hundred thousand
people within their realm and dependent kingdoms.

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Cortez very much wanted to have these
people on his side. The chief asked

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Cortez to stay and be gladly accepted. In fact, the reception was so

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warm that Cortez assumed it must be
a trick and stationed men at exits as

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though garrisoning a fortress. Several days
passed and nothing happened. False alarm.

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I guess they're just nice After several
days, Cortez decided to make a formal

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call on the chief to see what
information he could find. The chief told

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him that, disappointingly, technosoty Clan
was all but impregnable. It was surrounded

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by water and the bridges could be
pulled up at any moment. But the

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chief added two other peoples, the
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If Cortes needed allies, they were
there for the taking. This seems

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to have changed things within Cortes and
his plans. For the first time,

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he seems to have thought that perhaps
conquest was a viable option. Ultimately,

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Cortes and his crew spent comfortable two
weeks in Keppelan. Then he moved up

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the coast to what would be one
day Vera Cruz and a change that would

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impact the rest of the Spanish conquest. The chief at Kempalan gave the Europeans

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four hundred indigenous porters. From this
point on, the Spanish would always have

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the benefit of such forced muscle to
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The benefit to speed and combat effectiveness
was immense. There was already a

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small town where Vera Cruz would once
be. Cortez was surprised at discover his

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supply ships had not yet reached the
town. All the same, the expedition

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was well received. Then, by
honestly sheer coincidence, at almost the same

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time, a Mexica delegation arrived to
collect tribute. Cortes and his men were

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fascinated by the appearance of these Grand
Mexica bureaucrats. To the lord of the

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village, though this was just business
as usual. The lord went on to

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arrange for the tribute collector's reception in
the usual fashion, but Cortes detained him.

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He suggested that he should seize the
wards, tied them to polls,

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and imprisoned them in a room next
to his own. The lord of the

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village was aghast, but facing Cortez's
overwhelming military might, he did as he

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was asked. Then, during the
night, Cortes executed part two of his

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plan. He ordered his guards to
secretly release two of the stewards and bring

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them to him. He then required
his two translators to figure out who they

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were. The stewards declared themselves shock
to be treated as they had been.

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Cortes told the officials that it was
he who had freed them, because he

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did not like to think of Montezuma's
agents being mistreated. It was the people

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of the village who were barbarous.
He personally liked what he had heard of

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Montezuma. He would be grateful if
they, the two stewards, could go

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and tell the Emperor that he Cortes
considered Montezuma his friend. He hoped that

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Montezuma would not spurn his friendship.
He believed that Montezuma would be happy to

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see him and become a brother of
the King of Castile. Finally, he

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added, he would do all he
could to prevent the other collectors of tribute

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from being killed. But then again, I mean, the people of the

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village were just devious and barbarous.
What could he what could he possibly do?

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Whereupon he released the two men.
He had them carried in the darkness

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by sailors to a small boat up
the coast just outside Tatsanach territory. From

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there they returned to technosh Declan as
fast as they could. When the lord

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of the village awoke the next morning, he was angry, obviously, to

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discover that several of his prisoners were
gone. He probably would have put the

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rest of them to death had Cortez
not intervened. Cortez offered to imprison them

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on his ships, which had now
just arrived offshore. That solution was acceptable.

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After some hemming and hawing, the
ruler of the town agreed that he

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would go into bold against Montezuma if
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their army. Cortez was only too
happy to agree. Cortes was now feeling

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a lot more confident. His plan
was now to turn as many dependent tribes

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against Montezuma as possible. As he
marched to Technostclan. He reasoned that by

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the time they reached the capital he
would have a sizeable force. But of

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course, first he needed to finish
founding his new town. Bierca de la

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Vercruz was formerly founded on July the
twenty eighth, fifteen nineteen. Cortez is

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said to have helped to dig the
foundations himself. More ambassadors from Montezuma arrived

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in the interim. They told Cortes
that Montezuma was both ill and busy and

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could not see him now. They
could not say when he might be able

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to see courte. They added that
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to Technosodyclon, then he should travel
slowly. Montezuma would send guides to help

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him, but traveling too quickly,
they added, would be bad for his

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health. I don't think they said
that with like a gangster style ominousness or

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anything like, oh, don't do
that, it'll be bad for your health.

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The ambassadors seemed to have meant it
literally. Still, the Mexica ambassadors

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would have been amazed at the site
before the mat Vera Cruz. This was

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definitive evidence that the Europeans were determined
to stay. The Mexican ambassadors quickly departed.

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However, shortly thereafter, Cortez was
for the first time called upon to

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prove his support for the Tussanac people. A tributary town not far away declared

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independence, and now it seemed likely
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Cortes's reaction was instant. He set
off immediately for the designated town,

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accompanied by most of the conquistadors and
his sixteen horses. Together with a force

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of Toutsanacs, the Mexica came out
to meet Cortes in full battle array,

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feathers, paint shields, but they
appeared to have panicked at the mere sights

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of the Spaniards and their horses.
Interestingly, according to the sources, at

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least the beards of the conquistadors seemed
to have caused as much fear as the

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horses. Cortes's cavalry followed the retreating
Mexica and cut the bof the horses.

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However, were unable to climb the
rock on which the town was sent,

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and so Cortes and some others dismounted. They forced open the gates of the

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town with their swords, and Quartz
entered, disarming the few remaining Mexicans who

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remained, and handed them over to
the town chief of Kempala. He stipulated

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that no one should be killed,
and then he withdrew Tabaca de Valla Cruz.

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The speed of this victory greatly impressed
the Totanax and naturally had the effect

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of extending the rebellion against Mexico.
It also made Cortes even more self confident,

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for it suggested to him and his
captains at the Mexico, despite their

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fame in arms, had no special
military qualities, no secret weapons, and

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it seemed to them very little discipline. Cortes returned to the coast on July

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the first. He was delighted to
find that there was a relief force from

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Cuba, a caravel bearing sixty men
and several horses. Though the reinforcement was

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welcome, the news which came with
it was less. So this was that

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in the spring a letter had reached
Cuba to say that the Council of cast

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Deal, meeting on the eighteenth of
November, ironically, the very day that

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Cortez had left, Santiago, had
agreed to give the Governor, Diego Velasquez

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quote, a license to seek at
his own cost islands and mainland territory which

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had up till now not been discovered, provided of course, that these were

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outside the limits of the King of
Portugal. The license spoke of land neighborhood

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of Cosmomel and Yucatan. The nomination
was ascouraging for Velasquez, as it was

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discouraging for Cortez. Yet it gave
Velasquez less than he hoped for. He

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would still be hoping to be formed
with the what's called Arilanto, but he

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wasn't because he was not made Arilanto, he was still subject to the Supreme

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Court in Santo Domingo. As a
result, he couldn't go as far as

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maybe he wanted. Still, Velasquez
was to have numerous rights in the Yucatan.

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The profits of the edition were to
go to him and his heirs.

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Cortes had no choice but to try
to counteract these measures back in Spain.

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As a result, he hand picked
several men with the goal of sending them

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back to cass Stile and arguing for
his expedition to see if he could get

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the same legitimacy that Velasquez had just
achieved. Cortes would send these men home

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on his flagship, and their goal
was ultimately just to convince King Ferdinand.

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To prove their mission, Cortes sent
papers and three letters with his men.

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The first letter was from the Council
of Viarica describing what had been done so

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far. The second was a letter
from the army at Viarica. The third

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was a private letter from Cortes to
the King. Of the three, only

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the first survives today. We know
of the other two only by reference.

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The surviving letter summarizes the journeys of
Cordoba and Grivada in dismissive terms. The

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letter also demanded at the royal court
make an inquiry into the affairs of Governor

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Velasquez on the grounds he had mismanaged
his resources. The strategy here is obvious.

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Cortes needed the king to believe him
and not Velasquez. None of his

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actions were going to be any good
if Ferdinand did not ultimately approve them.

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The letter also added human sacrifice.
Aside that the indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica were

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much more advanced and much more sophisticated
than those of the Caribbean, there were

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references to human sacrifice, and these
references were deliberate. Cortes and the Spanish

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in general still needed to justify their
conquest. Describing the horrors of the Mexican

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religion was how Cortes planned to do
this. I probably don't need to tell

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you this, but it's going to
work. The instructions Cortes gave to his

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men making the return voyage were similar. He told them to stress how badly

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Velasquez had mismanaged things, how he
would do better, and specifically, how

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he would treat the Indians better.
This is, of course ironic, given

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how Cortes had once rebelled against Velasquez
because he Cortes wanted to expand the quasi

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slavery and commienda system. The instructions
also made it clear that Cortes did not

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anticipate returning to Cuba. Oh and
for good measure, Cortez sent the king

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a good deal of treasure, worth
about twenty three thousand paces at the time.

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If you're saying you're going to do
a better job than the person who

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currently does it, I suppose it
certainly doesn't hurt to send along a little

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proof. Still, there are almost
no historians who today believe Cortez actually handed

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over to the king one hundred percent
of his fifth The list of what was

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sent back is pretty extensive, though, Quote item two colors of gold and

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stones, one of which with the
figure of a monster in the center,

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has eight strings, and in them
two hundred and thirty two red stones and

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one hundred and sixty three green stones, And hanging from the said collar and

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from the said border twenty seven golden
bells, in the center of which are

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four figures made of large stones set
in gold, And from each of the

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two in the center hang simple pendants
and those at the ends have four pendants

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each, and the other collar has
four strings with one hundred and two red

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stones and one hundred and seventy two
apparently green and around two greenstones are twenty

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six gold bells, and in the
said collar ten large stones set in gold.

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Also two other pieces of colored featherwork
which were for two pieces of gold,

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and which they wear on their heads
as if they were shells end quote.

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While all this was going on,
Cortez faced his first internal plot.

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Velasquez still had a lot of friends
on the expedition, friends who knew exactly

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what Cortez was up to. Now, they decided they were going to try

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to stop him. Their plan was
to try to take over one of the

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ships and sail back to Cuba.
From there, they would tell Velasquez what

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was going on so he could intercept
Cortez's messengers before they got to Spain.

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Had they succeeded, history might have
turned out very differently. They didn't.

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Cortes found out and arrested the men. He pardoned most he needed the manpower,

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but he had the two ring leaders
hanged as an example. Cortez left

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the gallows standing for over a year. A garish reminder of what might happen

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to those who challenge him. Cortes's
next action was more audacious. He ordered

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the masters of nine of the twelve
ships anchored off via Rica to sail them

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on to the shore and break them
down for their component parts. He planned

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to use the lumber to build houses. Cortes's real goal here was to add

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the defeatist talk of going back to
Cuba. I mean, no point in

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talking about it, guys, there
aren't any boats. Had Cortes not done

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this, it would have been much
harder for him to take such a higher

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percentage of the men inland, which
is precisely what he planned do. Of

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course, this was a huge risk
for Cortez and the expedition. There was

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no going back now, There was
no safety net. It was conquer or

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die. We know that Cortez made
a speech about the same time about the

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importance of the expedition. He struggled, however, to explain to his men

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exactly what the expedition was going to
do when it reached Technosh Declan. He

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made a few vague references to taking
Montezuma quote unquote dead or alive, but

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that was about it. In reality, he seems to have hoped to win

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Montezuma over so that he Cortez could
act as the emperor's prime minister going forward.

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Plan B was capturing Montezuma and just
forcing him to act in Spanish interests.

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Cortes realized that conquering a major empire
was different from taking control of a

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largely uninhabited island in the Caribbean.
He needed a plan. He couldn't just

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improvise his way through this, like
Columbus had largely done. All of this

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explains why Cortez acted so decisively when
he finally did reach Technostyclan. As we're

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going to see, Cortes also wanted
to make sure that his flank was guarded.

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He left behind his reliable friend Juan
de Escalante at Vera Cruz. He

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told Escalante to defend the town at
all costs, but interestingly, his fear

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was not the Mexica. Rather,
he told Escalante to defend the town from

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Velasquez. What he was worried about
was a rival expedition. Primarily, this

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was a race against time. Cortez
had to prove that he could do the

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job or, just like Cordoba and
grivala you would find himself replaced next time

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