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what whatever waight slockports dot com. I'm easy Spencer, Christopher Nicholas. I
trusted myself, Daniel. Yeah, Chris dressed himself today. Before the show
starting, man was rocking the fucking red rings ring will backwards. There was
a chest stamp on the fucking non existent lats. What is a fool word
for that? Or something? Door side, door side, something something like
that. Have you got near the table? I never heard of tavia all
right, I I uh try to pull a last minute audible because it's been
a topic abused all day. I'm actually surprised that made its way nationally.
I thought it was gonna be a local thing because nobody it is Detroit,
verus everybody, at least I feel that it's Detroit for us everybody. I
didn't know that people would give a fun enough to show Detroit the grief that
have. But it is off season for the NFL. It made national storylines.
Sar Thompson tackled by de Vincenzo on the closing seconds of Detroit Piston's game
last night. Absolute horseship, no call, and then they called the follow
matter of fact, we got the sequence right here. Chris, if you
want three cam, if we have it, if you're ready for it.
This this is ridiculous. This is discussing. Nick, feel free to keep
the MIC's and if you want, Chris is there's let it loop. Actually
because it's this is just it's discussing. I don't have, I don't have.
It's just insanity, bro, this isn't This is insane. Tackle ball
picked up, obviously gonna play carries on. That's a whistle. We don't
have a sound, but that was a whistle. Yeah. To watch it
from that angle, Spinny pissed me off more than anything, because you get
they like The New York Knicks showed this on the social media as like a
flex, yeah, what is wrong with you? Yeah? It was some
ship like that, what this is disgusting? Bro, it's literally Rugby.
Look at that? What are we doing? Man? That's inexcusable? And
then that was a whistle like come on, yeah, DejaVu too. It's
pretty second game in a row that during uh during got a follow ye game
to same way game. Do you see somebody broke down the one with Yeah,
okay, it was definitely half of two feet and it's not just one
counts as one step. There was the travel that was wild to me,
dumbest breakdown I've ever seen the highlight Well then I googled it, okay,
like there's two feet counts a step and but this is just okay, all
right. I talked about it like Kate not getting the calls when he goes
to the lane is one thing, but not calling a travel on Paula Bankaro
was terrible. Not calling a foul for literally tackling a guy on the sideline
right in front of you. Thereat was standing right there and the dude tackles
it. Downte Devinceendo playing free safety runs up, makes the hit on us
sore no call. No, that's fine, Fuck that dude, Fuck that
shit, Adam Silver. If you don't do something about this shit, don't
show your face in Detroit ever again. You're not welcome. Trick. Trick's
gonna put you on the no fly list because that'sh It's not fucking cool.
We're the eight team wait, win team, eight win team, and you're
fucking jerking us like that. What the hell is this shit? He was
standing right in front of him, James Harden gets breathed on, and it's
a foul call. Us times have got tackled trying to get break opportunity and
you don't call it. This is horseshit. Shout out to Manti for standing
up and actually saying something about it and doing something and taking the fine and
saying, fuck that shit, fuck these rets, because that's horseshit. Man.
It's literally Detroit versus everybody. And so I don't know if we got
to do something like Longest yard shit and send some people out there to just
chuck balls at the roughs, the ret's nuts until they start making calls.
But that is fucking egregious, And like I said Adam Silver. If you
don't do something about it, never come to Detroit again. I just don't
do it. I don't think anyone could have said it any better than that,
But that was fucking phenomenal. Let him come speak to Manti Williams.
So we have the audio from him last night too, or the video from
him last night. So I love seeing this and I don't know what it
translates to it on the road. Where's the New York media now? The
absolute worst call of the season, no call, And enough's enough. We've
done it the right way, we've called the league, we've sent it in
clips. We're sick of hearing the same stuff over and over again. We
had a chance to win the game and the guy dove into a star's legs
and there was a no call. That's an abomination. You cannot miss that
in an NBA game, period, And I'm tired of talking about it.
I'm tired of our guys asking me what more can we do coach? That
situation is exhibit A to what we've been dealing with all season long. And
enough's enough. You cannot dive into a guy's legs in a big time game
like that, and there be a no call. It's ridiculous and we're tired
of it. We just want a fair game called, period, And I
got nothing else to say. We want a fair game, and that was
not fair. I'm done. Let me let me see this camera real quick,
Chris. This is coming from a guy who's literally self sabotaging the fucking
season. He has packed this season enough. He is unifying the terrorist group
to destroy the Detroit Pistons organization. That's coming from that guy. So if
you got some shade of reaction from him, who's like openly taking to lose
his fucking job, that's how much of a bullshit non call that was.
Just to point it out that way, pointed out that way, MPWMU says,
shitty teams don't get calls. I understand that to a point, to
a point where it's Kate Gunningham driving to the lane if he gets hit on
the arm and they don't call it like they call it on Lebron or Jason
Tatum or somebody like that, I can understand that to a point. But
that was blatantly a disgusting, game turning, game ceiling foul call that wasn't
called. He tackled the guy right in front of the ref. It wasn't
oh, he just hit him on the arm. He lunged at his knees.
It's dirty, it's illegal, and it should have been a foul.
And you lost the game from the you single handedly ref. I don't know
who your name is, but your stupid blind motherfucker that was off. That
is a blatant disgusting I want to call it tampering because, like I said,
it is. If it's just a slap on the arm when he's going
for a layup and you don't call that, I'll chuck that up to shitty
teams don't get calls. But he dove at his kneecaps when he had the
ball with a one point lead with like ten seconds left. What is that
shit? It's the point where play safety comes into call. And the other
thing too. I don't want to say half the reason they're shitty team,
but part of the reason they're a shitty team is because they're also not getting
fucking calls. Kay Cunny and who's a future star in this league, and
I think he's proven in the past three games, didn't get a fall call
until last night in a three game stretch and that's what him playing at the
point until the last night's game, sixty one minutes played, fifty six points
scored. Now a single fall call like half the reason they're shitty team,
as the officiated, and obviously he's not just Kay Cunny and neither you saw
that situation with Start Thompson. We had the picture up. You have the
picture actually real quick, Chris, I'm sorry, I know you want to
speak of this too, but I just like, this is fucking crazy because
this point you want to call in player safety as well, like what are
we doing? Yeah, and then again to watch the sequence as we did
a liverit or if you guys just coming in and you miss it, rewind
because this is the fucking perfect angle to see it. If we had some
of that video, you hear a whistle call on Jalen Dern straight up in
the fucking air playing defense. I got how you should textbook. That was
called the fall, but the tackle the football play made by Devin this was
called the fucking fall. But this was what are we doing? And I
and I and we mentioned this at the beginning of the season. I told
myself, I meant two weeks the game with you. I remember that's the
day I broke it. I was like, I'm not watching the Pissons game
to the correct fucking officiated. This is disgusting. Then I went to a
game with Chris. It hasn't been fixed all season. And again I'm not
making excuse for Detroit Pistons, but this has played a part and some of
these wins, I'm sorry somebody's losses. I should say that would definitely a
thousand, which is just a I mean even going back to the Power will
be a Carroll win too. Yeah, that was a travel Chris go to
speak a piece, ma I apologize that. No, that's exactly where I
was going with the player's safety, because this is a move that we could
see end a player's season. This is a move that can not only end
this player's season, but also jeopardize their next season. Like, this is
a very dangerous play. So that is why I'm even more upset. Yeah,
I get it. You know, we don't get calls and like Spencer
said, if it's a slap on the risks, fine, but this is
one that literally could have taken out as Sar. This could have ended in
season, he could have lost his season last night for what it was ridiculous,
It was it was stupid. It was just an egregious call. And
the craziest thing is that it's not the most egregious call in the last two
months of Detroit officiating. Like go back to the Lions game, like,
this is just this is terrible, This is terrible. This needs to be
fixed. And I don't want to be that guy that's crying my team,
my team, My team never gets calls. But you know what, when
you have the Dallas play and then you have this, how the fuck can
you not say something? How the fuck can you just be like, well,
you know, we gotta play harder guys, What do you tell these
young guys? These are guys that are there, they are veterans, These
are young guys that are trying to build winning habits. How do you instill
confidence in them? How do you keep them believing and fighting for a season
that we know is lost when stuff like this happens, when you could finally
almost get a win, finally get a win, and then something like that
happens and you have to go in there the next day if you're Manti Williams
and say, hey, guys, we need to keep playing hard. How
do you do that? Man? And Monty's been terrible and that was a
pr layup for him to do what he did. I don't want to take
any discredit from it, but it was a very easy thing to do.
There's still plenty more to be to be talked about when it comes to Monty,
but I feel bad for him today in practice. What is he telling
the guys in walker arounds before the game today? What is he telling them?
Sanchez got some man? They're probably deflated as hell. They played a
night in Chicago. You know, that's a game that they deserved to win
last night, and sadly, we just had We've seen this all year.
It comes down to the last thirty seconds, and this is one where it's
just so blatantly obvious that we deserve to win in that one. But I
want to go back to two nights ago, Polo nine free throws, Kate
zero two, number one picks, Orlando, Like eight games over five hundred
pistons with eight wins, You like, there's so many different ways that these
seasons can go, and last night it's just the cherry on top of just
thing could point out the pisses did shoot more free throws than the Knicks last
night. They did so, but that doesn't That's the part I hate about
it too, is like it comes to the night where like Kate actually got
a call. Kay got like more than one free throw last night. I
think it's six or seven. I think might have been eight, to be
honest with you. Yeah, but that's the part that sucks. Okay,
we finally get he's frobably get his call. Some of them were both this
is though, some of them were like they were over the limit and you
know what wasn't a shooting files kind of like he got you know, he
got Boga on the three. Yeah. But and that's other part of it
too. It's not like we're bitching for k like you said, oh my
team, No, you go and watch Kate Cuddy and play. And this
guy's getting fucking slapped tough the wrist every single time he's like drive into the
lane. And the two games straight, not a single call. And this,
by the way, again, him scoring fifty six points in the same
time frame, Like it's insane. Yeah, it's not. It's not just
us being oh whoe is me? This is actually like bullshit happening. Four
eyes and again, I'm glad that it made I'm glad it happened to post
NFL season to where it's making national headlines now. I'm glad that stephen A
is able to call it out. I'm glad that I heard a rich eyes
and call it out in the way in today too, Like it's I'm happy
at least that's part of it. I just don't know what I mean.
I hope it gets fixed because somebody in the chat talked about the Roger Goodell
and Dall situation, like that guy count Cheot the referee. He's probably gonna
referee next year too. They did pull him on the postseason this year,
but obviously there's fucking something wrong there, like you know, like get him
off the fucking field. That is egregious, especially at the day and age
where you can't turn on the sports station or fucking regular station, news station
YouTube without seeing a gambling ad too. But let's throw that in there too,
because that makes it a lot more disgusting. It's it's it's crazy,
and I get that, like weeds legal here and just Michigan, but gambling's
become more of like a national thing where it's like that's kind of anna open
habit that we're commercializing for people like I realized that this year of my own
Damn sol I'm like, damn, like I do spend a lot of money
on here, and I'm negative, you know what I'm saying. I am
like negative even when I feel like I'm it nice. The overall turnover is
negative for sure. And you're advertising that NonStop. And that's the type officiator
you have in that situation that's fucked up. It can't it can't carry out.
Yeah, it's it's terrible, and it just it keeps happening. Like
I said, Adam Silver, you gotta do something about it. This is
on you, buddy, this is your NBA makes something happen. Yeah,
and for me because I didn't wow that we're pret passionate there. We were
already up at the break here. But I need K to respond tonight.
And I know it's tough because it's not just like last night. There's the
season of the no calls, the shitty calls and the losses. But I
just need to see that dog in the the night. Yeah, I need
I need Kay to respond so I know we have a dog the same way
I have the expectation of Ivy last Thursday, and he broke my heart with
it. I hate to do it to k but I do hold Kay to
a higher standard. I need something out of him the night. No,
I need. I need to see Manti try to coach a winning basketball game.
That's what I need to do. I need to see my last team.
I need to see thirteen players. Oh, trust me. Look,
there's there's no Ivy did not play in the fourth quarter, but Grime's on
fire, so Flynn Flynn played four and a half minutes. Give those minutes
to Ivy. No discussion there, like Mike Muscala coaches, no play like,
come on, like, what are we doing here? There's still Manti
stuff to get into. I want to see Monty next game step up to
this and be like, you know what, guys, We're not losing this
fucking game. I'm actually gonna coach. I want that he like that last
night. That that yes, sir, that that better be the what comes
out of this at least. I want it. I want it. I
want it. Do you guys have expectations that it will? Though? Because
that's too completely different. Let's see other part. Why is demoralized? Too,
because it's tonight, the back to back. Yeah, you got the
wear down with it all too. This, this, this is why tonight
will be a situation I decide what Monty is or not because I up until
like last night, I as I think I said, I think this is
coming from a guy who's fucking tanking his job. Tonight is his opportunity for
me to like buy some Monty stock as much as I've sold. I actually
have zero Monty stock at the moment. But Neil put a get right out
there for kid over twenty two and a half. Let's run it ten and
a half point dogs. Hey, we cleaned up last night, Nick,
we did. We'll look up again today. We'll do it for the last
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easy, Let's spin more Rex, what about young Chris, Uncle Nick?
Let's go and a special guest on the couch cam. Oh hell yeah yeah,
hell yeah, so double on spending. I just feel about last night's
game. That's all. I talked about last night's game real quick before we
jump into uh, I guess we got a lot of Detroit Lions. Talk
to day too. Boice, Dan Campbell at the podium dipp in his mouth.
I fucking somethingbody had ball coach the podium some dipping his month makes you
feel like your organization is doing things you're rot But before you get anything,
I want to read this comment from broder Or sports chat guardant Terry and Arnold
cornerback out of Alabama. He says, uh, Terry on my way,
where's that'd be? Fucking said? We draft him and every time he gets
a pick, we just play that one. Zi rose above the noise and
confusion again. Ah this illusion. I was sorry and hi Uh, but
I flew too high. Though my eyes could see, I still was a
blind man. Though my mind I can see I still wasn't mad man.
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming. I get even then said carry up,
always saying you are Dune copyright there to don't you cry no more.
Dan Campbell spoke the media today. Uh, he hit the presser, had
a lot of good things to say. One of the things my first takeaways
has got me excited for Detroit Lions with him speaking of new coaching staff and
Chris and I. You have that video already or cute up or not,
but let's let's hear that one. You know, But to be able to
get Trail Williams somebody that I've had, I've had experience with. I think
he is. He's the best D line coach in the league. If he's
nine, he's certainly right up there. I think he knows how to develop,
he's got experience in game planning, and he's going to be beneficial for
our guys up front. To Shay Townsend played a long time, coached a
long time, He's gonna be able to deliver exactly what AG wants in the
back end, and so those guys are gonna be vital. And then certainly
Jim O'Neill's a defensive assistant, has been a coordinator in this league and has
a wealth of experience. So those guys will be good for us defensively,
really help ag finish the vision of what we're looking for. Dan Campbell a
guy that we all know in love. If you don't know, now you
know, and if you don't love him, you're just stupid. I don't
know what to tell you at that point. But he put the stamp on
Threll Williams, Yeah, as the best defensive line coach in the league.
Now, Dan Campbell is respected coach in the league to go out there and
say something like that, and by mind you, Dan Campbell is like he'll
hold himself back saying like wold shit like that, Like he has been like
truthful when speaking on a guy's like jer Golf, I mean everyone Jo Jamo,
right, Jamo? You know he may not ever have Lee Hans.
Yeah, he called Tyrrell Williams the best defensive line coach in the league,
and we've already had high expectations for him. Spindy, how bad's got you
feeling? Man, it's got me feeling pretty good. It's got me feeling
like Brownriick Martin is gonna do something. It's got me feeling like Josh Pascal
can make a break and be an upper echelon player on this defense. Like
this is a guy who likes that type of player, who likes that Josh
Pascal, That John Kaminski, that guy you can move around in the middle
or on the outside of Deniko wat one of those guys proven he can do
multiple things on the defensive line. This is a guy who can unlock the
true potential of these guys. He can make them legitimate dudes on this defense,
and hopefully, please God, hopefully can get Broderick Martin on the guy
damn Field. I just want to see him out there, this big sake,
five three hundred and fifty pounds mammoth of a human being. Get him
on the fucking field, please please. It's all the masking. I just
want to see him in between the Leam and Hutch getting those double teams,
being a eat eating it for lunch, Like that's what we need to see
him. A fan Williams, He's gonna be a hell of a lot better
than John Scott Junior. I can tell you that right now, wholeheartedly hopefully
he can unlock the potential of these guys. He's got the resume, Like
I remember, we hired John Scott Junior, wheels back like, oh,
there's Michael Parsons. Oh Michael Parsons wasn't there when he was coaching, And
they went, Okay, well, let's let's ride it out, Dan conmitt
Hire, let's do it. This guy has a track record. This guy
has a resume of having guys come out with the collegiate or professionally produced on
his defensive lines. As matter of fact, he also and I think a
lot of us already know this, but if you didn't, he's also the
former defensive line coach for one, Brad Holmes, and he has a good
thing to say about him. Two he's you know, so Terrell he I
want to say that that was his first position coach job. He might have
been a GA at East Carolina and he got done playing, and so I
believe A and T might have been his first position coach job. But Terrell
Man, he's a he's a great teacher, he's a straight shooter. He's
really the first coach that really, you know, taught me the nuances of
achieving what you want to achieve on the field behind the scenes. He's the
one that used to bring me in and sit me down and watch tape with
me all summer and kind of learn those ins and outs and developing a relationship
so you know, you can build that trust with the coach and then when
you know he was a great coach in terms of holding us accountable, and
so you built that trust, and when we didn't do the right thing,
he held us accountable and we didn't like it all the time. But he's
an excellent teacher. I'm not surprised of the success that he's had. You
know, even when I was a young scout, he was in the college
drinks to say, he was at Purdue for a while and he produced a
lot of good defensive linemen out there at coming out of Purdue at that time.
And I believe I was a combine Scott at the time, and that's
when I really knew, like, Okay, I knew that you were always
a good coach, But when he was producing all those defensive linemen out of
Purdue, I was like, Okay, this guy's cooking with gas. But
not surprised, very happy obviously, you know him being my d line coach
in college, and not why he's here. He's here because of his body
of org And just real quick, this is off the top of my head
too. You don't speak about a body of work. Again, he has
pieces he's a produced into the NFL, and guys that he's had professionally under
him produced as well. We already know about dcau Audrey. I got to
be kind of want to bring he as a free agent because of what Rowan
has been able to do with him. Let me kill that. List on
to Cliff Averril, he worked with their at Purdue. Justin Simmons over there,
tasty Titans. I mean, these are just a few of the names,
but those are names you recognize. I mean, maybe not Denico Autry,
but you look at the numbers. He's like, Okay, maybe I
should have fucking known that guys. Why didn't I know that guy was?
But Justin Simmons, you sure as i'll know, these are like top tier
guys in the defensive line. And so one more quote from Dan Campbell,
and I think he knows how to develop. He's got experiencing game planning is
going to be beneficial for our guys up front, and I fully expect that.
I had the expectation before that, but here in these words, I
got solidified or from Dan Campbell himself. Now I'm a full believer. Now
I know it's gonna happen. He called him the best defensive line coach in
the league. Bro. That is high praise from Dan Campbell. I promise
you it is. Now. I'm not convincing anybody in this room. I
know you guys know that, but for the listener at home, expect some
out of this, especially with a product Martin. I hate to sit here
and tell you guys I need for my team. A piece that I want
for my team is a spacing defensive tackle. When we drafted one of the
third round, moved up to draft one of the third round last year,
and we saw a splash play out him in the very first play in pads,
and we've seen in person when he's tackling our number one running back in
Dave Montgomery. That's probably gonna change this year too. Jumior Gibs obviously on
his damn thing, but we know we have like the potential there. Now
we got to roll Williams and hopefully put that in the motions. It's not
like this production. This guy that's gonna unlock eight Hunderdson and make him a
twenty sag Miles Garrett type of guy. Shit, what if he does,
it'd be nice. But I don't think gonna see it a lot out of
Aiden Hutchinson. I think you're gonna see it a lot out of the other
guys. Yes, I agree, the other guys, the Josh Pascal's,
the John Kaminski's, the the Will Ferrells, the Mark Wahlbers, you know
the opposite of hutch Like the guys. You want to see it out of
the guys you need to see improvement out of. He's gonna go in there.
He's gonna tweak it because hutch is gonna be hutch. Hutch is gonna
be his guy. And we know if he had some help, he would
have had more sacks than he did last year. But I think that the
other guys are gonna get benefited from this. You're gonna see the guys who
had won two two and a half sacks next year having five six, six
and a half. And it's gonna go throughout the entire defensive line, and
in turn that will help Hutch because that means more eyes on more people,
So you can't triple team and chip Hutch every snap. Yeah, but still
I don't I don't think Hutch will be this Miles Garrett guy because of the
re signing, but I think the other guys are gonna be so much more
improved. Yeah, and I just thought of one more name to add that
list to it, kind of like a little bit of the recipe we got
cooking here. But Cameron a wake over there at my end, Torol Williams
also had to do with him. That's a guy from the CFL coming to
the to the NFL and just took over the league. What do the Lions
just do this past offseason? And yeah, we've got ourselves. Matthew Betts
No again, a lot of you guys, Pike some crazy shit out of
him. I don't have that expectation. But now that I'm looking at Terroll
williams resume and knowing he's done that already with the Cameron Awake, maybe I
might have to shave my beard or whatever. Bet I put on the line
for those six and a half says four and a half. Four no,
no, no, yes, no, you tried to change the four half.
It was no. I remember you tried to told me get to change
it. I ain't four and a half spicking a guy that put up more
than four and a half. He was hurt all last year. But a
guy like James Houston, do you think he can maybe take him to another
level with his experience that he brings that's d line room, because we've seen
what he's able to do opposite Hutch in some spots a couple of years ago.
So my answer for that one kind of like varies only because James Houston,
we know that he works with Like Shepherd as well. Yeah, linebacker,
I'm saying, yeah, he sometimes in that linebacker room and he's used
as an edge specialist. But I felt like he's majority of working with the
linebackers. I would like him to be working with at least give Troil Williams
opportunity to see like what he can cook up with them. I want him
in a line rush in the quarterback for damn sure, especially if you get
Progerick Martin out there producing. And I'm not talking about producing as like far
as like a nick and the numbers eat the box. Yes, get a
of these one on one matchups. Get Houston's won on one matchups. They
can capitalize do what they do best, and that's eat the fucking quarterback.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what we've been asking for is
a big guy in the middle, and you got one sitting on your team
that didn't play it all last year. So hopefully, you know, Tyrell
Williams can come in here and he can get the best out of Broderick Martin
to make him a piece that will benefit those around him. And that's what
we expected out it. We don't expect him to be you know, the
Forrest Buckner or Aaron Donald or anything like that. Just demanded double team so
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Spinney and I don't know if you got to see this yet. Nick,
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Chris, you have because you upload the graics. But UH agree. Mid
Packers general manager Brian Gutenkust, Brian what, Brian guten Kust. I can't
be guten k guten Kunst. I feel like I'm just making up boards right
now. Had had some subliminal shots for the Detro Alliance here. This is
a pertaining to question asking about them chasing the DTRORI alliance for the division and
uh and his answer he said around here, we've never hung banners for division
championships, so it's never been about that. It's a nice starting point,
but I think we have always that we're always looking for bigger things. End
quote with this smug fucking yeah a guten coust. He hasn't won any Super
Bowls as the Packers GM. He has not, He's not. Packers have
won one Super Bowl in my lifetime. That is true. It is true.
The one. The only one they won other than uh twenty eleven was
ninety six and that was in February, and I was born in September.
So in my lifetime, in my life since I've been on the face of
this earth, they've only won one. And I understand it's one more than
us. But we're catching up to you next year, Bud, so you
better reset those standards. And maybe you should start hanging banners for being the
Lions because we're gonna be tapping that ass for the next years. Lions run
the North man. I know that might not mean anything to you now because
you're not gonna win the NFC North for a while. But talking shit like
you've done all this and you've done all that, you haven't won a Super
Bowl in your tenure, Ben, So maybe you should set the bar a
little lower, because if that's where the bar is set, you've been consistently
failing since you took over. Brian Cooton, coust Gooten cous Mixed Stut and
Stuche have only won one division since Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes step foot down
Park, Brian Gootoncusten agreement Packers are only two and four currently two and four
because Brad Holmes and Dan Cambell, the Detroit Lions. It's not good step
foot in now Park. That's including the loss that they gave you, guys
and Lambo when you had an opportunity to make the playoffs. I get this
a rivalry and there's gonna be some subtle shots. But to to first of
all, you just had to look on your face. You think you're better
than everybody. You just do no offense. You have one of those like
I want to punch you in the face faces, and you know you look
at that fucking ug mug every day when you look in the mirror. But
to sit there and speak all high and mighty like you've overcome the Detroit Lions
and the new regime's tenure, you just you're wrong. Yep, you're not.
And now because you've already had to see you know how hungry this organization
is already. You're the savages that we have, both of brat homes.
You see them celebrating, you fucking get the goosebumps on your neck, the
whoa breaking Dan Campbell's hand, you know, the fucking man of Dan Campbell
is They try making them a girl for the fun of it yesterday and we
don't want none of it. But we would fuck your coaching quarterback, just
saying we all openly at picking your coaching quarterback number one of those lists you
just you just fed the those animals more bolletin board material you are about to
were you doing them? I mean, I'm glad you did it. By
the way, I'm happy, like I need something to talk about, and
they need stuff to chew on as well, like the Dane KapS. Don't
suffice they they did anymore. Brian Goutonkus, you're gonna look like an absolute
douchebag by the this season. Yeah, I'm calling it right now. The
gree back Packers, you guys were good last year and you got your shit
going along, yes, but by the next season again, I don't think
we're gonna have hang any banagh for next year's division went by the way do
you think. I mean, they'll probably add it on there, put it
on there. Yeah, maybe if we do. You're a nature words.
At one point you might even be there long enough to see another green pack
about to say that. I was just about to say that, Hey,
gouten coast, I guarantee, I guarantee Brad Holmes ten years GM in Detroit
lasts longer than yours, Bud, So you might want to lower that expectations
before you're doing them somewhere else, because you're not gonna get a shot at
the NFC. You're not gonna be able to hang a division title banner because
you're not gonna have a shot at it for a while. Gut and case,
because Brad Holmes is here. He's a much better GM than you are,
and he ain't going nowhere. So get ready because if your expectations are
that high, if the team's expectations are that of you, you're gonna be
packing your bags pretty soon. We got a comment in Woover Sports Chat from
GB, D n C, E and T, and the GB stands for
agreement packer because obvious agreement packers fan. He says, I mean, he's
just speaking for himself. He's speaking historically for the franchise. Y'all overreact.
No, there was no reason for him to bring up our round here.
We've never hung banners for division championships. We knew what that meant. Yeah,
we knew what that meant. And maybe it's a Detroit mentality. We
take every little thing and give us and when we go Michael Jordan Beebe take
that personally, but it's okay, that's that's what we do. It's that's
how we end up on top. We I don't want to say encourage disrespect
because we're atually not react to it, but when it happens, we only
it's only fuel for prepared for it. Yep, it's only fuel for like
the city in general, no matter where it's coming from, Detroit and the
city itself been doubted. That's a little bit of a come back too.
Matter of fact, we're hosting NFL Draft this year. Doubt us, disrespect
us. Like I said, just know, it's only be more few of
the tank for when we running over your ass and it comes division wins sucks.
It sucks, man, I understand, like you gotta hold onto something
and gluten douche that that one super Bowl that Aaron Rodgers carried you guys through.
I get it like you, I don't know where you were at that
time because you weren't in the Packers organization. You weren't the Packers GM when
they won that Super Bowl. He wasn't scouting the parment. Yeah, you
weren't the GM, bitch, So yeah, you don't get credit for that.
Yeah, nobody says, oh, I'm glad guten Couz scouted that sixth
round quarterback that doesn't play on the team anymore. Cous, Get out of
here with that bullshit. More like Guten Douche just low hanging fruit. There
feels like, you know, it was such a special season for the Lions,
and yeah we're gonna hang a ben. Or guess what we did at
home this year in the playoffs? We went to and o. Last time
you had a home playoff game, lost it to the goddamn San Francisco forty
nine or so. Yeah, that's what happened when you have been the GM
under your ten yere r. We're two and o at home, you're oh
and one the last time you went. So there you go. See in
the playoffs next year when you come into Ford field and you look at that
banner and a loss. Let's go yes, sir again, I think the
Packers are probably as it sits right now, probably the second best team in
the division. But that's not the first. So like, what are we
doing type conversations we have in here? Sorright? You never punched out though
they're always punching up. You want to take a shot at the reign and
kings. We understand we run the North and you're just our little brother in
the corner, yelling, screaming, try to punch. But it doesn't matter
because when we get on the field next year, we clap that ass.
When we win the North again, we're gonna put twenty twenty four on that
banner too. Wis pitch your ice spice and he said that clap yeah,
as as the Packers are. Yeah, al all seriously though, like we
talked a little bit about it the other day, but like we're like we
should be able to talk our ship, right, I mean, like we're
going to add to like what we were last year for sure, gonna be
able to talk our ship. First of all, Yeah, we won the
division, so we could talk our ship. We could say we are better
than you because we won the division and we won another playoff game, and
on top of that, you know we're gonna do it again next year.
Want to be ready for that. I want to read one in the chat
shout out Eduardo for this one. Remember next same GM that had to put
out a statement because we infiltrated that field after week four. It's true we
just over Yeah, yeah, that is facts. Great comment there. I
don't make one more point too about like maybe the division standings there, but
I don't know what it was. It was something somewhat respectful to them.
But oh, that's what I was gonna say. Phil says, Pack is
a good team. Pack are a good team. We're a better team.
Yeah, we're a better team. Because here's the thing too, is like
I think their defense kind turned on a little bit in the back half of
last year. I know they fired him. They got a new defensive quarters
they're kind of proud about. But like Dan Campbell spoke about today, I
don't know if we have in any of our clips, but he mentioned like
the talking about just like Detroit Lions, it's not a Detroit Lions like one
on one when you're coming into camp this year, this is advanced. Now
we're four to one because we have the same coaching staff, the same schemes,
everything is the same in terms of like your head coach, offensive coordinator,
defensive coordia, and that maybe some position coach changes, but I'm of
the belief that philosophy changes. We just want to get you better fine tuned
as individuals with these other like position coach changes, like we are steps ahead
of like we're there going to be on top of the fact again we're turning
everybody to like what was the division champ and NFC conference a contender, if
you will. But we're gonna add to that in this in this draft class.
And we're also gonna and by the way, Brad Holmes draft classes,
they compete right away, they hit the field right away, and that I
know some of those come from like the top of the draft obviously Ab Hodgson,
Jamior Gibbs, but we also have those hits in the back half too.
I'm around Saint Brown, Kirby, Joseph for Houston, Sam Laporta,
Brian, Brian Branch, James Houston. So we're cooking with that as well.
Thank you for Brian Branch. On top of that, mister, you
know you don't hang those type of banags. Gold thanks for thanks for Brian
branch Bro, thanks for that again, Golden Douche. Yeah yeah, Golden
Douche. I feel I would have been as wrestled with this if it just
could just put the quote up one more times. The face, dude,
because if it is the same face he made when he was making the comment,
it was like a like, I can't even I can't even smug.
Yeah, smog cheese dick smile. I could have said it better myself.
That's what it is. Can you do it? That's the square ass head
right, Like, it doesn't even fit you. It's just you have to
be that type of guy to have that look. I'm telling you howd let
me try not doing it. Nick, you got it in here. I
got the sash. Yeah you might have a little bit smoke. Okay,
you got a little bit. Yeah, sah. Chris you just used the
other time, Chris, see if you got it in your Chris, Yes,
Chris, you got the Wisconsin blood in you. Isn't he a Wisconsin
guy? What from Wisconsin looks? Either way? When we get back,
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we've had in places that we've been or has really been that way. And
that's that's what it comes from. Man. You you want to be a
good team, you have to draft well and then you and then you resign
those guys. I mean, that's that's your core. And and then you
find the right pieces of free agents to fill in with. So so I
just we both believe that. And and so I think you got to be
careful. You know, you want to go spend top dollar on a free
agent that's not your own, you want to know everything about that player before
you bring them into your locker room. I mean, you can see the
tape all these but whereas your own guys, you pay top dollar for your
own guys that are worthy from production because you know everything about them. Right.
So it's just it's something we believe in. It's something that we're going
to continue to do. This is literally the third time that they've expressed as
an organization the money they spend more than likely, or not even more than
likely. I'm saying more than likely because I'm hopeful they get a big name
guy, but it is going to be on the Eternal Guess. It's going
to be an am Rush Saint Brown's, it's gonna be in the Jared Goffs.
It's not gonna be on the Chris Jones. Obviously, Matabuque got franchise
tag today or he's going to be franchise tag today. Similar situation to a
snee but they're opening working out of trade or whatever it may be. But
the money they spend is gonna be internally. They're not gonna go out there
get these big name free agents. And they believe that Another word key where
they've been using to is depth. Winning the headlines in December as opposed to
March. You have you conceded spinning the the Detroit lines are gonna quire these
blue chip guys. No, I haven't conceded holding out. I'm holding out.
I'm holding out hope. I think they're gonna bring in somebody. I
do because they're so close they can taste it. And he talked about like
you want to spend money on the guys you have in house because you know
who they are. They've been here before. They're doing this. They no
I don't think they're gonna go get Chris Jones or something like that, but
I do think they're gonna bring in somebody to make an impact on the defense.
I don't know who it is. I don't know where it is,
but I think they're gonna bring in someone, and I understand where they're coming
from. You definitely got to sign those guys in home. You gotta sign
you know, Dom and Ross, Saint Browns, the Penney Suols, the
Jared Goffs. But guess what else you need to sign a difference maker on
defense because your defense flat out wasn't good enough last year. It wasn't the
defensive line was not good enough, the secondary was not good enough. And
so sometimes the guys in house are just not as good as the guys out
of house. So I don't think they're good. Like I said, I
don't think they're gonna sign Chris Jones or even Lugerious Need, but I do
think they bring it a piece or two. Nick, have you conceded on
lend it a blue chip free agent? Yeah? This one hurts. It's
like a kind of right up to it. It's are you ready to be
hurt again? We remember what happened at the trade deadline when he didn't go
out and make a move, and sadly it ended up coming to bite us
in the biggest game. Number two cornerback took one off the face for a
massive touchdown for Brandon Ayuk in the NFC Championship Game. Am I ready to
concede? I believe one of these free agents maybe doesn't get the contract they're
looking for and is willing to sign a one year deal late, like what
happened with a CJ. DJ So I believe that that's gonna be the move
that they make. But they do not go out and get one of the
blue chip guys early on and give them a big contract. Easy. What
are you thinking? I I think I have to concede, man. I
just don't think it's going down, at least on the open market. Like
I could see a trade happening, and we've seen trades happen. I mean,
we didn't acquire that the blue chip piece in it. But when they
know they made the move for t J. Hockinson or got rid of TJ
Hockins and should say obviously Jared Goff that was like a big name trade,
they may too we drafted. Listen, he's beat with his people. Don't
remember the man's name, but it's not to say anything. I remember no
one's name for the receiver we got from the Denver Broncos, like that seventh
round pick Trinity trade Vinson. Like they make moves, but it's not for
big name guys. But I think I think this year is it, man,
I really do. And and I know they're gonna make certain moves.
I think they's playing down like the moves they're going to make because one piece
they also bring up with awesome last week, but it's death and so I
think it's gonna be like just those rotational guys that we're gonna get a plethora
of. And it makes sense because guys do get hurt. Like what is
the sense of having a T. J. Watt if he's not gonna be
in the playoff game for you? And I'm not. And that's not like
any shades Torch because he's an absolute dog. Don't get it twisted. But
like if I make a move near Jets, actually perfect example, right,
you move and they didn't. They give up too much. But hell in
high water to go acquire Aaron Rodgers just from his Tiaras Achilles in the first
game of the year. You can't. You can say that about anybody takes
you bring in. You can say that about anybody. What happens to Jared
Goff's Terrace's Achilles, that more fucked. What happens if Penny School does it,
then we're fucked. You can't say, oh, I'm not gonna sign
somebody because they might get hurt. You can't say that, you can though,
because that's weak. They they made a mos and witness that happened before
their eyes. Like I guess the way they're looking at is like why spin
all these assets to acquire a guy in the market. They're going to reset
the fuck markets even get just tonight and be sureing like what's gonna happen like
down the line, like it's it's it's just risky business. And I think
this is how they look at all these guys. I'm very curiously the type
of deals that alman Ra and Jared GoF get just because of the way they're
talking now and then I get there there they have hyped up the word internally
mentioning those and we got Jared Goff top like later on the show too.
I wish I grabbed a cut from it. I think I'll tried to do
it during the commercial break, but I'm conceding, man, if I could
see him grabbing a piece, it's just not gonna be on the market.
It's not gonna be like on a rental. They're gonna sign free agent's gonna
be a blue chip guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what
do you consider a blue chip guy. I mean the guys at the top
of the position group they grabbed. You know, they did grab David Montgomery
last year, but the running back contract they were guys. Yeah, but
that was that fell on our lap and it wasn't like a blue chip cut
nobody. He didn't even get what he wanted on the markets. Why he's
not one year proven do but Dave Montgomery got. But the running back position
at that time kind of the valued. Obviously the group text that they thought
was gonna save that. You know, direspect those guys that they're fucking beast,
But like the burning back market's down right. We got Dave Montgomery,
Eckler, and Derrick Henry hitting free agency right now, so I just think
if they get somebody, it's gonna be got a few guys left in a
deal in a b through trade. Yeah, that's just what I'm conceding.
I think they're gonna sign some guy. I don't Again, I don't think
Chris Jones was ever in their in their sights or the top guy in the
market was ever in their sights. But I think they're gonna bring in difference
makers. I think they're gonna bring in a couple of guys either on that
defensive line or in that secondary that'll play, that'll play well, and that'll
contribute to winning. Uh. I guess, like, well, what's Isn't
there a word like when you really want something that you just like in denial
of it, It's just like how bad that you need to happen? Got
the blinders on? Yeah, lit a little bit of blind Did you consider
DJ Reeder or Leonard Williams a blue chip guy? I said, Linn Williams
probably being being like a blue chip guy. And the only reason why I
say that is because we saw freaking no destructor Javion Clowney. But like he
got like a pretty nice deal after like being kind of mid throughout his career.
Obviously, Old Beckham getting more than DeAndre Hopkins on the open market last
year, fucking insane, that makes zero sense, Like he has that cachet
of the name value. So I can see little Williams kind of like floating
a little bit towards that. I don't think. No, I don't consider
DJB to blue chip guys. That's why I can't say they're gonna acquire those
type of dudes. I think. I think we're a blue chip team.
So if there's like kind of blue chip guys like towards the end of the
career, like this is again to make the Stevie White reference, like a
guy in Patrick Kane situation in NFL this year, like thirty five still want
to get a ring, Still play the winning organization that's doing things the right
way. Detroit would be your spot for you, you know, but it's
no longer. The blue chip names were not blue chip guys. But listen,
I respect what they've done so far. Regardless, I feel like there
may be a piece away, And no, Brad Holmes doesn't believe in that
philosoph of being a one piece away, but maybe that's him saying, hey,
he's gonna be more than one piece. Maybe we're gonna have a couple
of them. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see if he does make the
move though, I'm talking about the trade this year. You guys think it's
be in the draft or you guys think would be like for a guy right
now because they said they want to fix needs in free agency. Yes,
they said they address needs in free agency. Fuck man, I don't like
this class of free agents. I mean, I'm Kendall Fuller. I did
turn around and get myself a little excited about that because it is an upgrade
over Kendell Wildred in the day. But like, fuck bro, we want
a lockdown guy. Yes, Unfortunately, I mean, those guys don't just
grow on trees. You know. Teams don't really let go of guys like
that too often. Maybe they do make a trade, Maybe they trade for
one of those guys, whether it be a J. C. Horner or
Patrick certain that are on the last year of their contract out of that draft
class. So we'll see what happens. But I Brad Holmes is going to
improve this defense. We saw him do it last year with the secondary.
It just didn't work out because of the obviously the injury of Emmanuel Moseley.
But he got three players to bring in to be starters on that secondary.
Last year in free agency, I think he gets three players. I think
he gets two or three players to be key contributors to this defense. And
free agency this year, I'm just on the gears are going in my head.
I'm excited to see what this coaching staff, like, what the effect
of this player staff has to do with bringing in free agents. And the
success that we had in the postseason last year with the home field advantages that
we had and the away field advantages for that matter, we literally took over
stadiums last year. I wonder if that's going to have anything to do with
this free agency class where we are actually a destination for the first time.
I mean maybe in my lifetime. I don't know about you guys, but
I actually believe we're going to be a destination for some of these free agents.
It feels like that's what they're banking on, right, is the coaching
staff to be the change they want to see in that defense. When speaking
about the changes, I mean, that's what Dan Campbell said. They don't
want to fit AG's vision a little bit better, does only that's what they're
banking on, And I do believe the Towel Williams hiring, the Shaye Townsend.
We got to see that one play out, and then obviously O'Neil as
well. But for me, just again with what we got going on on
the offensive side of the ball when it comes down to clutch moments like,
I just don't know if we have it there in the playoff games against like
the big name teams and jag to get done where I just want. I
feel like you need a complete team all the way around to do it.
That's just that's is where I'm mad with it. And if we get the
blue chip guy, it's probably gonna bea through the draft and he's gonna be
a stud, or they're gonna make the trade. I just don't know how
much more I'm making up on the trade happening. J C. Horn is
still probably out there. Obviously, he's certain they're picking up his fifth year
options. They have big plans to keep him. But the Panthers, who
knows what the fuck they're doing. I have they're about to pay Brian Burns
thirty million. Yeah, I have no ideas they're doing. So we brought
Jacey Horn actually might be the name I've seen it thrown around in the chat
a little bit. Could you see the blue chip type player that we're looking
for actually already be on this roster and maybe just needs to be unlocked.
Spenny, I know you love a guy like Alee McNeil in the middle of
the pair with Aiden Hutchinson. Easy. Do you think this could be something
internal that happens because I have the utmost fate that Brian Branch is gonna become
a superstar for this team as starting as next year. Yeah, I mean,
I think Allie McNeil's a Pro Bowl talent. If he stays healthy,
he can do that. He can be a guy that gives you seven eight
nine sacks a year from that interior defensive lineman position. So hopefully he can
stay healthy, hopefully he can go out there and do things. But on
top, you still need somebody else. Yeah, you still need someone who
else? Like we only have three defensive tackles on the roster right now.
Yeah, literally it's Levi own Zerike who shouldn't be on the roster. No
offense to Levi, but Broderick Martin and alle McNeil, Like you're gonna sign
they're signing a defensive tackle in free agency. Yeah, you can put that
on Wax Like, I don't know who it's gonna be, but they're definitely
bringing somebody in. You know, I was thinking too, I was trying
to like drawl aperol Gues today that Patrick Kane, you're gonna talk my guy
win the Heart Trophy. How about Stephen Gilmour, former defensive MVP out there
kind of towards end of his his uh playing window two? Is that guy
you comeable going out there and getting with that? Yeah, yeah, for
sure. Again that's he's a lot better than fucking Kendall wildor no disrespect to
Kendall wildor but yeah, Stefan Gilmour literally is one defensive Player of the Year.
He's definitely uh on the back nine of his career, but he's still
a great player. And I guess it's to answer your question, Nick,
I think yeah, I think they do. I mean, I think Dan
Kemball spoke to a little bit too. They feel like they have their core
guys in place. Is filling the holes like through free agency whatnot? I
think I think Aiden obviously is a blue chip guy. But if he if
you if you're able to get brodig Martin to step up produce and his role
to a blue chip level, and not I mean talking about it necessarily the
past rushing, but just eating up double teams. Then yeah, Aiden's gonna
shine and Alan's gonna shine. We just need that. We just need that
part of it. And I hate saying it when he's on the roster,
but that's so too. Williams here for so we'll see baby, I mean,
I'm hoping, so yeah, I'd love to sumplem at it with with
the Gilmore. Honestly, that'd be great to start this free agency, so
it's not such a big wide open need. And another guy that Will wanted
a single out here. It's Jack Campbell and I'd said it about Brian brow
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I think I think he's got the run game down. Now it's time
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it. He's got that letticism for it. Obviously, we saw Intelane get
his hands on a couple of balls this year that equitted for like Terry Jacobs,
no respect to him, but he's not in the team before forward he
lost his starting spot, he was able to capitalize and angle to get his
hands on balls pause. So hopefully Jack Campbell can start to take that next
step in his development. I believe you will because I believe in Calvin Sheppard.
Some bets actually speaking of acquiring as coaches, Calvin Sheppard obviously been that
for our linebacker room. So mindy Toros can be that for the defensive line.
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saw a quote that when we were put up there, we talked about Terrell
Williams and what he could into the defensive line, and he is a quote
saying violent. I'm not giving you a dissertation. You gotta play violent and
with effort. So that just is lockstep with what Aaron Glenn wants to be,
what Dan Campbell wants his players to be, what this team is be
violent, the aggressive, play with maximum effort. I think he's gonna fit
in very well, very well. Again, no disrespect to John Scott Junr.
But like listening to his introductory press conference, I just didn't get that
vibe from him, Like he was kind of like I want to say,
say, soft spoken, yeah, laid back, yeah, laid back,
relaxed versus like you know how Dan Campbell, And it came out the gate
to I'm biting fucking kneecaps ag when I podcast. I want to bring back
the physicality of football. And then that's how you want your defensive line coach
speaking. And that's gonna be And again he was elsewhere beforehand. I talk
about it all the time, especially defensive line. You can't be nice and
play defensive line in football. You gotta be violent. You gotta be aggressive,
you gotta be angry. You're trying to rip dude's heads off every play.
Like I want my defense of lineman to be angry, aggressive assholes for
the most part. Absolutely, I mean as much as like Hutches, Uh.
He is like a nice guy. We saw in the very first year,
his rookie year on Hard Knocks and preseason him talking that ship to the
Falcons offensive lineman. You get the me. Yeah, he flips the switch.
You gotta fit the switch when you get there on that field. A
couple of comments being made with wover sports Chat, and I want to give
Travis his new credit because he is the one that first brought it up to
us, but at the time thought he had mentioned different Latimore, but uh,
Marshall Lattimore. Yeah, over in the Saints New or Orleans. Yeah.
There. I looked over the cap and I don't know if it's been
updated since they renewed Derek Carr's contract. I know they took like twenty million
down from that one. They just renewed somebody else's contract to it. Believe
it was like seven million. But there's still as it currently sits over the
cap. They have a draft class to sign. They're probably looking to offload
a few guys. Latimore that fits the mold of a guy that I think
Dan Campbell Bradholmes will acquire. It fits precisely actually what I think could happen,
because again, I don't think they're gonaquire these blue chip pieces on the
market. They do, so it's gonna be through a trade of the guy
that already has a few years on his contract. If you could somebody who
doesn't mind looking up Alatimore's current contract and I'm curious what that is. That
makes perfect sense because you have Aaron Glynn who formerly worked with them in New
Orleans. Obviously the guy's a fucking stud and I could speak to that just
from like when I watched him this year on Monday Night Football or Sunday Night
Football against the Jaguars. Calvin Ridley was fucking up. He's a monster,
and he's still one of the higher I guess perceived the higher guys on like
this free agency class. He shut him down. He was non existent.
He fucked up my parlam and I was like, God, Damnimore is good
man. That that was the thought I had like coming away from it.
Yeah, the sainty to clear up some cast space, and that's a perfect
That's literally what I've been telling you guys. I don't think it's gonna be
on the market. It's gonna be through a trade. That's a perfect candidate
for that. I think it could happen, Honestly, God, I love
for it to happen. We saw it happen last year with Jalen Ramsey.
Nobody really expected him to go for as little as he went for. But
Brad Holmes is gonna do something I'm telling you he is gonna bring in a
quarterback. There's no way in God's green area that Week one we have the
same cornerbacks we did in the NFC Championship game. I promise you that he
knows it's too important. He knows the window is too small, and he
knows you need more fucking talent out there. Like it's you need better players
to be a better team, and we want to be a better team.
We want to win a super Bowl. So I'm currently looking at Marshaw Latimore's
contract, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he's signed through twenty twenty seven,
and they could off him. Oh it would actually it would hurt them.
Let me see home on postcut. Maybe that changes anything. Yeah,
Okay, they could off him and it'd only be like a million dollars savings,
but still savings that they need to make. Marshaw Lattimore is also through
contract through twenty twenty seven. And again you talk about Brad Holmes saying he
wants to be careful with spending that money. He wants to be making calculate
decisions. You're not spending that money, just acquiring the contract that's already there,
and talking about like being careful and calculated. Again, you have the
inside source all you need with AG working with this kid beforehand. Yeah,
that was the big art is he emphasized knowing everything about the player, and
that's why him and Brad are so tent and certified on bringing not bringing in
free agents, but dealing mostly in house. And that's why this makes sense
because there is the AG connection and you know, he probably doesn't know him
completely, but he knows a more than ninety percent of the other free agents
or players have become available via trade like that. That's something that lines up.
I'm perfectly I'm not gonna lie guys. I'm feeling comfortable enough to go
out there and say it's gonna happen. Say it's gonna happen. Yeah,
he played with Glenn, right, Yeah, yeah, I played with Glenn.
He's drafted in twenty seventeen. But it's the same way we had that
feeling for the Dave Montgomery shit going down. This This is like, this
is like Zach Sneer, we just trot out. I mean, how many
more times I can say it? This is fucking this is happening, big
Brad Holmes guy, because he's only played in seventeen games the last two years,
so he's dealt with some injuries that I'll deter you at all from going
after him. Uh No, no it doesn't, because I mean in a
trade he gets discounted off rip in the first year to where I got me
twenty twenty five. It's looking like a thirty million dollar caphit. But that
obviously be negotiated. I believe that's that's what I mean. The cat has
always gone up too. By the way, inuries don't scare you at all.
What are we looking at, Nick womni games? You played the past
ten games last year and seven games before that, So just the last two
that I'm looking at ten games twenty twenty three, seven games twenty twenty two.
I mean, for me, I think that just lowers the asking price,
right. I like the sound of that, That's what I'm saying.
I mean before I I mean, this guy who's the defensive rookie of the
year, four time Pro bowler. Was he in the All Pro his rookie?
No? No, he was. I would I mean, what's the
value here, you guys think will be around for what Jalen Ramsey went for.
I would assume it's going to be around there. Yeah, a third
round pick something like that. It's nothing. You're not gonna have to give
him a third without this guy like that, That's what it is. I
mean he is how old is he? Ninety six? Twenty seven years old?
Ramsey was thirty twenty nine when he got traded same, Yeah, I
think it was twenty nine. Zy was all pro. So yeah, that's
fair. I mean we got two third rounders, that's all I'm saying.
We got two of them selling him. I'm like the value of him in
a trade, I don't think so what would you being the part with to
acchoire him a third round pick? Just the one and something in something else
small, maybe like a future fifth or something like a four focus. Yeah,
yeah, I'm give him for and one of the last Mustangs in production.
I'm looking at his completion percentage of last year's games. I have to
go to the Dvance analytics for that. But I'm all for making the risks
because, you know what, we were this close this year, and you
got to expect internal growth, not only from the coaching staff but the players
as well. Because this is a young nucleus and if you think about you
just plug him in and okay, say he's cj DJ like he misses most
of the season or some of the season here and there. All he has
to do is make one or two plays in that NFC Championship game and we're
in the super Bowl. Like this team isn't that far away. So that's
why I'm okay with going after a quote unquote injury risk, because when you're
so close, you don't need their full potential. Now that'd be great.
I'd love to have him play all seventeen games this season, but you don't
truthfully need that. You need him to just be better than Kendall wildor and
and what else the Detroit Lions secondary had, So that's easy. He was
put on IR with an ink injury and did not return. His head coach
Dennis Allen said it was fairly significant. But I mean, by now,
you gotta think that ankle's just he'll be five. Yeah, it's true,
he should be fine. It's very true. I'm trying to find his Uh.
I don't want to go to PFF for this man. Just give it
to me Pro Football Reference. I'm looking for, like his completion per ses.
He's allowing the quarterbacks I might have to go to PFF on this one.
I didn't want to, but I'll pull it up. We got Kirby
if he says Denver Blair, neither of which play corners. Yeah, yeah,
those are two safeties. Yes, but thanks for playing. But we
three and three says, are we to a point where we go for clownies
and Ramsey's and Mike Evans first of all, Mike Evans an comand some money.
And Andrew Jones makes a good point, we don't want a budget cornerback
on an island with JJ towyst the year. It's a great point, fantastic
point. Like it's you got good receiving on top of j DJ Moore,
it's pretty damn good as well. You got a bunch of guys in the
Packers that are pretty good. Look what Brandon Au didn't do us in the
NFC Championship game, Like, having a lockdown cornerback is extremely important in the
NFL, especially when you're trying to play these better teams CD, LAMB,
Mike Evans, Brandon Au and Justin Jefferson all cooked us in a row.
I'm looking because GB D, n C, E and T and the will
which four. Chat says that they just restructured him in January. Uh yeah,
one month ago. Restructured, reduced salary cat pit from twenty five million
to fourteen. I mean still do it? Fuck it? Yeah, I
mean pick up the phone. That does make me want to change the guarantee
there. I'm not necessarily guarantee, but something to keep on the radar.
Fuck. I wanted it to happen so bad. DNC, Why I gotta
ruin that for me? Man? Why I gotta ruin that for me?
I guess the concerns continues. Chat find us some cvs with some some dbs
like this man. Yeah, we need them, and I think that's how
we gona acquire him going forward, because obviously not grabbing an open market.
Just breaking news with Jerry Steeds saying that he's for sure shopping for a new
team via trade, but they're not gonna pay a guy like that. They're
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the boys. I'm looking at trade candidate's in the NFL. How do you
guys feel about CBS bro like they do some click baby stuff. No doubt
you know what I'm saying. I want to click on this article. But
just my experience as a Detroit Lions fan with CBS stuff is like ass bro.
I don't even like they've ruined it for me. This is the first
publication. I'm like, yeah, I'm just not gonna actual Bleach report.
It's been great to me, so I always click on their stuff, But
CBS the first one. Yeah, for sure, it's a CBS is bad
Sporting News? How you filming this one? Should we be click on this
one? What do you? What are you doing? I'm just trying to
find such trade candidates? Many ms N? What is that? NBC?
Is that? What that is? MSN? Though, Oh, I'm not
familiar with the game. I just want a cornerback man, That's all I
fucking want. Bd. Oh here's one, No, that's not would be
nice to shift gud Oh he's a fraidy too, isn't he? Yeah,
Murphy Wanny would be nice. These are all receivers in this one man tra
Davious White. Such, Yeah, he's got cut, he's got cut where
he's about to get cut? Oh yeah, chills interior thing. That's Bradhlmes
as Brad Holmes inered like the past four four years. Hey him and Manuel
Mosey on one year deals, and I just I'm not complaining. I'm just
saying I am not complaining. I'm also that one's a little too too risky
for me. Are you comfortable if it is at Manuel Moseley and kendallvilldeor if
that that's the hole now and they draft someone to not really no, no,
because the injuries. I mean, you got there with Kendell Wildor.
Yeah, I understand you got there with Kendall Vildor, but you also gave
up twenty seven straight un answered points in the NFC Championship game with Kendall Bildoor
got throw Williams helping the d line. Well, I'd rather have a good
cornerback as well, putting pressure on them now. I feel the thing that
like bust my boss a little bit too, is like when Dan Campbell and
Bradhlmes like speak on these things, they feel like they speak from their experience
at other places when they've when they've witnessed success. I know the Saints traded
for Jimmy Graham. I know they traded away Jimmy Graham. Yeah, for
the center, which I mean I don't know if they made any other big
plays, but obviously the Rams made plenty of fucking crazy moves. That's like
where Brad Holmes come from. It's like, what do you mean, don't
believe it? You've you saw, Yeah, it worked, it worked,
We'll figure it out again. Like I said, I I find it very
hard to believe that go into next season with Kendallvilder and camp Sutton as they're
one and two on the outside, I do think they're gonna they're gonna make
some changes. Next week we'll be joined by Ted Winn from the Athletic and
hopefully you'll have some insider news for us too, Maxua. I'll send some
text off this week too with the combine, all that kind of stuff discussed
the combine either way, but without further Deuce Spinny Dan Campbell changing the NFL
landscape, but it comes to hiring had coaches, Yeah, we got a
Dan Campbell video about it. We talked about it before about like if we
think the success of Dan Campbell is gonna lead to NFL coach or NFL gms
and owners looking at these guys who are maybe not the prototypical NFL head coach,
Like maybe not the guys that you always see the smart uh or the
run of these offensive geniuses that we saw and maybe they're gonna switch over to
more Dan Campbell type guys. And you kind of saw it with Dan Campbell,
with Demiico, Ryan's getting that job, with Antonio Peers retaining the job
in Las Vegas, and Dan Campbell had some thoughts on the job. Well,
look, I would say that Antonio did a good job over there.
I mean, so that that's that speaks for him. You know, it's
not an easy situation. I've been in that as an interim and to take
over and you know you're trying to do it your way, but you're trying
to keep at a float. So but I thought he did a tremendous job
here, earned that, he earned another opportunity. So you know, I'm
sure I am. I'm part of that as far as not that, but
just the Hey, maybe there is a thing with the ex players, But
but I think those guys have done a good job. Demiko's done a good
job. He's earned that. So I just bring it up again. You
can find good coaches that are ex players and coaches have never played the game
at the NFL level. You can so they're out there. You just got
to find them. I've read a comic real quick from because I messed with
that at a ward O'Neil. That's that's the homie. I like the comments
he puts in, and he put a coment that caught my eye because I
don't necessarily agree with it half the time. But he says, Steve Wild's
those balls like scroll up to Steve Wilde's comments. I probably just going for
the Dan Chemic coach stuff, he says. Autrey Gilmore van Geekle draft extended
leaves to ol Amarah outside the extensions, Autrey Gilmore van Gekle, I would
love that whole, yeah, of free agents, that'd be nice. I'd
be pretty comfortable doing that. And if I'm being honest with you. But
on to Brad Holmes, I actually love that whole. That would be beautiful.
But Brad Holmes, I'm sorry. Dan cam Wl changing the landscape with
the NFL. I think it's in the eye to be older man, because
I do think in some sense. Yeah, But at the same time,
we heard that and I don't know if it's true or not. I was
we hear like weird stuff about Ben Johnson and his stuff. But Mike Rabel
physically intimidated an owner out of hiring him as a former head coach of the
year, a guy that that's drugged and of know this means a disrespectful sense
if it comes off that way, I apologize. But Ryan Tannehill as he
started quarterback to a conference championship game, like, that's a guy you would
want to hire if it's changing on the landscape. And hiring former players turned
coaches like that's him not having a job is crazy to me. It's literally
a football team, not a debate team, like intimidated by want somebody intimidating.
As brilliant as some of these offensive minds are outside of Kyle Shanahan,
I still feel like you need that football coach in you because at the end
of the day, like it's it's a mind over matter a lot of these
situations, man, and you want a guy that's been in the trenches beforehand
to hype these guys up. But knowing that like the victorious side of it
exists, they respect that. They they resonate with that more. Yes,
as players, when you know that guy's been there before, he's done that
before, he's been in the situations He's been in these trench he's been in
Super Bowls, He's been on Owen sixteen teams. He's done all of this
in his career before. He's gone through the rules of training camps, of
OTAs of a regular season, of a deep playoff run. He knows how
it feels. You listen to that more, you hear that more, you
respect that more. And you saw what happened with a guy like Antonio Pierce.
He took over the same exact team as Josh McDaniels and turned them around.
They look completely different. Antonio Piers did a very very good job with
that team, and I was even like struck by, Like I remember commenting
on one of the Raiders posts, or I think it was Antonio Piers posted
it of him walking out of the tunnel leading the team wearing black Air Forces.
I was like, if he doesn't get this job, like you should
RYOT. They connect with the players more, and they listen to them more.
They play harder for a guy. You have a guy like Dan Campbell
at training camp telling you, hey, we're gonna be hitting every other day.
But trust me, guys, all I think about is you, guys,
man, you gotta believe me. Players will believe that rather than Matt
Patricia pulling up on the quad with a broken leg liked time like, that's
not something that resonates with the guys. They're gonna They're gonna listen to a
guy that's been in the trenches. It doesn't matter if you have one ass,
cheek and three toes. I would beat your raps. No, I'm
with you, Nick. Yeah. One other thing I wanted to highlight too
is these guys are young that are coming into the locker room. These kids
are way different in the social media area era that you have to coach for.
You know, the whole entire locker rooms different. I remember the quotes
from like Stafford in his locker room. You know he wasn't resonating with these
younger guys. People have to change, and these coaches have changed with the
times. We've seen a guy like Bill Belichick retire, not get a job
or is Bill so as the Falcons was exactly and then Pete Carroll as well.
You know, so the times are changing in the NFL and they're obviously
going younger and more ex players definitely resonate with these guys. How many times
do we gotta teach you this lesson, old man, Like, these guys
aren't gonna aren't gonna take that ship. They're not gonna take the the abusive
coach anymore, the the you know, the Bobby Knight as coach, the
Bill Parcells as coach. Like they are looking for guys like Dan Campbell.
You're gonna take it. It's gonna be from a guy who's been in your
shoes. Yes, a guy who can on the other side of it.
And although I had this conversation with GQ and it's like, yeah, different,
different era of football two where like they played a lot harsher conditions if
you will, I know that, don't. Don't that come off as soft
at all, but like sometimes hard to relate to that way. But they
they've done it though, you know what I'm saying, Hey, where did
this today? I know it sucks, but it turns out teams have done
that that' took part in one championships at least like put themselves in a position
to of the hiring cycle this year. Jim Harball, Dan Quinn, Dave
Canals, Rod Mayo, Antonio Pears, Brian Callahan and Mike McDonald. Dan
Quinn I'm sorry, Jim Harball for a player, Drod Mayo for a player
I don't know. No, Callahan wasn't and Mike McDonald no. So there's
three of them in there, and I want you gave Antonio Pearce his due
respect too. He earned that. Yes, as much as like Dan Kimball,
maybe turn the tie for people wanting like relatable coaches or guys that can
like I guess you know you guys beat a long term because you can buy
into them a little bit there. Antonio Pierce earned every bit of that when
he sets a franchise record of an ass whoop and on the Chargers and escorted
Brandon whatever fuck his faces Staley out of his head coaching job. Antonio Pierce
was deserving of that, and their blue chip guy put his foot down on
it too. Mike Max Crosby said, Hey, if we don't bring this
guy back, yeah, I'm gone. Yeah, I don't want to be
here. So it's what you need when you have a guy like Dan Campbell
motivating you to play, who has seen the great coaches, who has seen
the Bill Parcells, the Sean Payton's the other guys go out there and win
super Bowls. He's been a part of a Super Bowl, and he's been
a part of a team in Detroit that didn't win a single football game.
So he could tell you what those guys on that team did that didn't work,
and what the guys on the other teams did that actually worked. And
that is way more important than Matt Patricia riding around in the squad going I
made the best player or I mean, the best play calling defensive football history.
Like, shut up, man, nobody cares about you. It's not
about you. It's about Malcolm Butler making the play. All I care about
is you guys, man. So I just love I love that they're getting
that run. I love that you've got those guys out there that are They
die for their players. They die for these guys because they know where they're
coming from. They know how shitty it is to go into a a NFL
season off of a grueling training camp, play the seventeen game season, and
then try to make a playoff run. They know how you feel. They
know how you feel when you're coming off of week seventeen, Week eighteen and
got to get ready for the playoffs. Yeah, they know you're not one
hundred percent. They know you're banged up, but they're there for you.
It's it is a huge difference from what we were seeing earlier, and you
had the run of these genius you know, play callers, and they're still
you're still working those guys. Yeah, yeah, you're still making those Yeah.
Well here's the other part of it too, right. I don't think
it may be changing the landscape. Yes, but let me be honest with
you, only one day Camp and anyone that's ever had a prior relationship with
this guy, at least in the national media circuit when they're having these interviews
with him, oh damn man, that's a guy. They always have a
story. He's been able to break down connect with them. And I don't
remember who it was in the NFL network, whatever Morning Shore they do,
Good Morning Football is one of the best on know wh I forgot that,
but he had mentioned that's a guy who could relate to every single person that
roster, despite coming from a different background, because able to break down and
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and I agree to this. And I think this is a guy that I
think could be blue chip where it's shown blue chip traits and I don't know
if his current organization has a the money to bring him back. And it's
aj Espinoza Now Andrew Jared Esperosa from The Buffalo Bill six foot six, two
hundred and sixty Sam linebacker slash as rusher. I've witnessed him do work here
in Detroit, and he's have a little bit of health issues. But the
past two years spinning in limited action because I don't I don't know if he's
the starter, let me check, but six and a half sacks back to
back years, would that be a Brad Holmes guy? Yeah, yeah,
so it sounds good. Six and a half sacks and back to back years
sounds pretty good. That is that would be second on the team last year,
and this as a reserve guys a spot starter only started in the Jacksonville
game, in which he did cash in on two sacks in that situation,
I am a everybody recommending aj Espinoza. I think that is a Brad Holmes
Dan Cambell guy too, just from whatever you see on the field, you
know, in a limited fashion or a limited action he's got if he's eating
that sounds like a guy. Brad Holmes or Dan cambll would love a guy
that bust his ass a little bit of shiny gets a J. Spinoza,
You are Detroit lion, and I'm kidding, I can't go that far.
Who'd rather have him er Van ginkle him. Let me see they have him
as a defensive lineman here on the I've seen him play the linebacker position from
two I's in there as a SAM. I'd rather have him. This guy
you can move around and guy can play multiple different positions. Two interceptions last
year too. Guy that can play coverage, eight pass deflections, two receptions,
six and a half sacks and ten quarterback hits. Again, not even
a starter. Yeah, it'd be nice. That'd be nice. I would
love to see. I would love to see that happen. Give me somebody
with something you can't have, like five sacks being second on your team.
Again, I could not have that happen with what you have in Aiden Hutchinson,
with where you're trying to go, what you're trying to accomplish as a
team. You need to get the quarterback on the ground more. You need
more consistent output from other guys. If he was like third on the team
in sacks in like four games, it's come on, I can't have Romeo
a quar getting you two sacks being one sack well, I can't even remember
Charles Harris being a sack and a half. Like, we need more production
out of that position flat out, and I do think Bill Williams is going
to help that. And I think I think Josh Pascale has a good year
next year. I think Alee McNeil, if he stays healthy, he'll be
right around seven eight sacks next year. So we'll see. But having another
bookend pass rushers is vital. And again, if anybody that missed that,
that's and it's actually Nick, I'm going to you on this one because you're
your numbers guy. By the numbers, by the numbers, ten QB hits,
two interceptions and eight pass deflections and fifteen games played in limited action because
he was not the starter. How you feeling about that? Yeah, I
would absolutely love this guy. I loved him coming out of college when he
was at Iowa. Epanessa, I apologize, Yeah, aj Epinazza, I
liked him a lot coming out of college where he produced at Iowa as well.
We know we love our Iowa guys for this team. With Sam laparda,
Jack Campbell, we got two last draft class. I would absolutely take
a look at him. I'm down to bring in a guy that maybe didn't
get the snaps that he wanted in Buffalo and plus they had such a stack
like d Line in the past, maybe where he wasn't able to get his
spots like you guys like von Miller getting brought in there. So I'm definitely
down to take a look at a j Appanosa. However, Epidermal Comics,
Wiver Sports Chat, Shift God, c J J might not be back.
What's the words that CJ will be back? Uh, I don't know.
I would I'm down from be back. By the way, it's not like
a it was. Once I realized when they had two safeties in the roster,
it's like, okay, yeah, probably bring him back, especially he
was down with doing the rotational situation, down the clown you down to clown
brother. Why are you making a face? Chris? Just it's interesting that
she said you're down to bring him back open handedly ruined the locker room single
handedly room. I didn't say that. I said it could lead to that.
And by the way, after I said that, he chased Doom.
I think I think, partly obviously because I said that, he's like,
Okay, I'm gonna show you type of thing. But also maybe you know,
maybe he'll realize that sometimes you need to get called out, you need
to hear if you look yourself in the mirror, like am I you heard
it here first? Hey, I am not your savior. I'm not your
savior. I got you, I got a troll comment. But whatever,
hutch is not this elite pass rusher from somebody in the chat. Yeah.
Yeah, But I honestly think hutch is gonna take a huge step going into
year three, especially we've talked a lot about Terrell Williams today in the defensive
Coach. I know you said it would probably help out some guys that were
maybe more middling, like a guy like Pascal, guy like Ali McNeil,
But I honestly think it will help out Aiden Hutchinson significantly. And we know
how many pressures he had this year, so some of those are going to
turn into sacks. Yeah. I don't think he needs a new coach to
like tweak and make things better. I think what he needs to help him
the most is the other around him to step up to make sure that he's
not getting double teamed and shipped every play. To have a guy that can
beat one on once on the other side, so it makes it easier and
teams can't just only focus their schemes on him. I think that's the biggest
thing that Aiden Hutchinson needs where he's gonna take the jump from eleven and a
half to fourteen fifteen sixteen is having another guy out there that has to that
other teams have to worry about. Wilversports chat, I see comment from Steve
Wilds McNeil will get eight plus X. I agree on his Instagram page already
he's pulsing the workouts again. Yeah, and usually don't see that stuff coming
till summertime. Leaves already and that's Hey, that's one of the reasons they
draft him. That is the I guess framework or standard of a player the
Detroit Lions want to acquire, Andlee McNeil is that. And I can see
if he plays, if he's healthy the rest of the season, I can
see him having an eight plus X. I think he proved himself as a
interior pass rusher. And again for me, I'm not again it's a similar
thing you're saying. I don't think Hutchinson is going to get tweaked you often
or too much. I think obviously he showcased what he can be, what
he does, it's gonna be the guys around him. That I think need
the tune up. And for me, the domain name is Broddick Martin because
because we're sitting here talking about wanting a BLOCKI defensive tackle where we're falling in
love with to and Andre Sweat, we have a guy with that's similar build
on the squad right now. It's just he needs to be molded. That's
that's Terrell Williams. Like Wheelhouse, we watched a guy like I can see
her comfortably and say it's also partly because it can only name you probably two
or three of these guys in the first place. I want to talk about
linebackers. Coach that Kelvin Shepherd's probably top five, top three linebacker coach in
the league. Jay Campbell, who's interviewed for the position, acquired a guy
called him the best. I'm expecting bumps from natural bumps too, from just
you know, going to the bathroom with your boys, but also kidding I
want it. But Brodict Martin is the piece. I feel like he's been
brought into work with the interior defensive line and you just on it earlier too,
and he goes beyond that too. You talked about Josh Bescal, guy
still plays the interior. I think that's the way he works best with.
I guess you have the cliff everyone in his resume too, Cameron Wake.
Maybe he does help much. I think he's gonna help. I think he's
gonna help out everybody. And that's what we need most. Is like I
said, the other guys you know, no, no, Will Ferrell like
you need the other guys to take a volt. We can't have what you
guys said man Romeo a'quara with one sack, Yeah, Charles Harris with the
sack and the half Julian o'quaro with two sacks. Those can't be the guys
that are supposed to be rotating, rotating in and getting plays. You need
to make some things happen. The Lions need a faster Linebackers. Expeditiously says
truth over emotions. Listen, I think I think Anzo did his fucking thing
this year. I'm not taking anything away from Alexis alone. I'm finally him
being sorry returning next year as I think it's Jack Campbell, who, by
the way, has that speed. He has the high ras score we went
over last year, the raw athletics score. It's up there with Brian branch
at the safety position. It's just him getting to know the game a little
bit more, and I think that's gonna come with the sophomore season. You
always hear these players talk about it. I mean, I've had conversations with
guys, Malcolm Rodriguez being one of them, is like, the speed of
the game is the hardest part to adjust to. You hear it almost in
every sport. I know. It translates to basketball too, is adjusting to
the speed of the game at the pro level. I think that's what you're
gonna see out of the sophomore season for Jack Campbell. I don't think you
need faster guys per se. I think they have that. It's just he
has to adjust to the level of play, speed to play. And think
it's coming this year. Luther Ellis, Hell yeah, j Ellis, Joe
Ellis, I would love for that to be the guy too for two one
three. So you tell us money, we need Dirty Mic and the boys
to go crazy. I want a soup kitchen in that backfield, like you
gotta go out there and make some things happen, Like thanks for the fuck
shack, Dirty Mic and the boys. That's what I want. Opposing quarterbacks
to be feeling some dirty mic and the boys breathing down their next Yeah,
we need consistent pressure from multiple sources in that backfield. I want to make
this comment real quick too, because I do love Van Geekle as a prospect
becoming a Detroit Lion, and he's not prospect in the league. By about
that guy that will require. The one that makes me nervous about that one
is I feel like he may outprice himself because he his Tamba guys being Geekle.
Yeah, talking about like limited limited snaps showcasing like high inability. He
showed that, So I don't know if he is gonna be looked at as
a depth guy in any situation he goes to. I know he was that
in Miami literally, and part of that's because Jaden Phillips is a monster.
But like he showed what he showcased in limited Snaps, I feel like he's
gonna go somewhere to be like a guy and rather than a depth guy,
Yeah, well he gonna be a a guy here too. I don't know
if you can command a crazy contract. I'm cool with signing a guy.
I'm cool with signing multiple guys like I fell in love with DJ Reader in
the prospect of what he can be for this team if Broderick Martin isn't ready
to go and be that same piece. But that that's what that's what I
want. I want, Like I said, I want a guy that eats
double teams, a guy that eats blockers. I want to eat it,
that eats it for lunch in between Alie McNeil and Aiden Hudgerson. To open
those guys up to one on one matchups and to have them produce more because
they're not getting double team to every snap. Yeah. So for the numbers,
guys like Nick with only eleven starts the back half start and the rest
of the season because Phillips got hurt. Six sacks from Van Geegle, eight
tackles for lost, nineteen quarterback hits, one interception that one inception did come
back for a touchdown, and eight pass deflections. Be size, How big
is he? Van Geegle is six foot four, two hundred and forty two
pounds and he is the uglier version of alex As the money. For damn
sure, that is one ugly motherfucker. No offense than I hope I come
to love you for who you are when we sign you as a Detroit Lion.
He's twenty eight years old actually, so maybe a little bit cheaper than
we're thinking. I'm here for that all day. His position on Pro Football
Reference outside linebacker. I mean that fits the Sam spot. I just think
you might cost a little bit much, but I want him. Don't get
me wrong. That's the only thing I can see. Last thing where we
don't get I won't, I won't you. I call you Chris Hampson.
Listen, we got two more weeks and the three thirteen three one three day.
I came here looking for some booty. I mean, something goods happening
for us. Three thirteen raised you open spinning. We're getting a vank g
Eagle. We're getting how you said the last name Espinoza, Espinosa, Espinosa.
And who's the other guy they had on their Autrey are I feel like
if you had to make a bet and the guy that's gonna be come a
Detroy line for damn sure, who would it be? Free agency wise?
Not drafted Graham Glasgow loophole. All right, the guy that didn't play the
line man Evan Brown. I took. Let him know when we get back.
Yeah, I'll have to think about it. But let me tell you
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a mill per year. I'm looking at Vank. He goes career earnings,
there's a total seven million. He's an undrafted or no, he was drafted
in twenty nineteen and then oh he resigned with the Dolphins. His career earnings
in the last seven million. And I watched him on Hard Knocks this past
season. He has like a like three kids, two kids. I feel
you want to get paid, but maybe maybe that five to six to him
is a lot because he's only made seven total. I would love for ranking
go to come and become a Detur Lion. Thank that Van Gank, That
Van baby. That's all I'm saying. You feel me. I'm trying to
think of other outside linebackers Detroit Lions acquired within the Brad Holmes regime and what
type of deals, what type of numbers had before him? We get ansl
Azo Angelo's last year in the audience. Here, will you look up Angel's
contract history from when he first signed the Lions. Yeah, yeah, and
I'm gonna look up his production. I gotta close a bunch of tabs previous
season and this. He's obviously a middle linebackers. This is a little bit
different. I guess he's all He's on here as an outside linebacker. In
the New Orleans year, he had twenty two solo tackles, nineteen assists,
three TFLs, zero QB hits one two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight starts nine starts. He started the last game of
the year. I got the spending real zero six. Oh, there we
go, and Angeloney was signed for it had to be something low. I
feel it almost might have been like two million. And that's half the reason
he came here. That in ag Yeah, my own crashing too. Right
now, what's going on? And uh and hey, did you see at
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text anybody for multiple days, but we'll give you five bucks for it,
five dollars, five dollars. So did he get resigned? He got resigned
the twenty two offseason, right, Oh wow? He signed for one point
seven and then twenty two was two point two, so three three million dollars.
I guess if Van's not getting offered a bag somewhere you could offer him,
he's getting all he's getting more than one to two, ten or twelve.
He'll get more than that, for sure, honestly, fucking do it?
Why not? I know Dion want that Sam Spot. I I wanted
that DT, but maybe Broaderick is going to be it. I gotta film
and Broddick might might fulfill that fantasy for me. Pause, but Latroyal Williams
in house having to hear Dan Kimills be the way I might be leaning off
the one. I mean, I still think we should get one for Roto
in depth, like they said. I think they will do that. I
guess we look like a DJ reader. But I'm not gonna keep salvating over
these guys in the open market when I know why. I want to have
faith at least and troll Williams making a fucking monster out of broadery. I
think Williams is going to definitely improve these guys, But again, I think
you can always improve externally by bringing in more talent, Like there's nothing wrong
with bringing in more talented guys. Yeah. Sorry, I'm just trying.
This's probably stuff I should be doing before the show. But you guys are
getting good names, and I'm trying to see, like how that correlates to
what we've done in the past. We got a couple of things we do
spinning Steve, why not making a move for the deadline? Who said that?
I read it somewhere from who let me find it for you? He
wrote it down before you went to bed. No, I read it that
they may be patient staying pat the line the deadline. I mean, that's
definitely been around. I definitely saw er our boy Ryan Hannah that came on
Friday. He had a thing come out with Max Boltman from the Athletic Apod
for the Winged Wheel. He talked about it could be internal moves that these
guys make bringing up a guy like Evanson or Berger, And I'm just that's
what I've heard. It wasn't. Yeah, quote Brada, this is from
Detroit Free Press today, Helen Saint James. Detroit Reverings may not make a
huge splash at trade deadline. You want to read it, Yeah, from
scoring first to getting them across the finish line. Patrick Kane has the Detroit
Rebens on the road to the playoffs ahead of Tuesday's matchup against the Washington Capitals.
In a five game winning streak. Kane on an eight game point streak
a little more than a week out from March eighth NHL trade deadline. Kane
is a big reason why general manager Steve Geiserman may stay his hand yiser Men
already added a game change in November when he signed Kane in just a few
months after they're trading for Alex to break it in the end. Those guys
find a way, coach Line said after Sunday's game. They're the ones on
the score sheet, found a way to get us two points. The fourth
line got us the first goal, and then to break in a Cane took
it to the finish line. What my reading? No, Well, Chris
Chris l reader? No, Kidd's Chris dude. I would have killed that
read. You're doing a good job. Would you be pissed, I'm not
wouldn't be pissed, No, I would be mildly upset. Yeah. Is
some of the last year's trade land for the detro lianceview. That's what I
was gonna ask which is more egregious, not standing pat Lions Lions, That's
what I was still. Yeah, and by the way, Brad Holmes was
trying to make moves because contenders really this year until move away from are they
what? But are they move away from it? I mean, I ain't
think it happened in the NHL playoffs that your playoffs are the most batshit crazy
playoffs all the Yeah, but they're not. I don't think they're move away
from being serious Cup contenders, though I would like to see them grab a
guy like Chickering or Chris Tanna for sure at the trade deadline, you know
how I say, And I don't think this is the same in hockey,
but you guys can verify for me to do that. Hockey, Yeah right,
No, But seriously, in the NBA, I obviously didn't like the
Ivy pick for a reason as a fit. I think it's trum his talent.
I bring up the Luka doncs guts, Luca don Kyrie Irving, you
hate Ivy's guts, No, he loves it. After Ivy choked my one
uh that one game. Either way, you said he was batman Luca and
like public apologize k cut in for the district. I apologize for not slobbering
on Cad with when while we have eight wins here. Yeah, I apologize
for nothing, Cad. I think you're great player. I have your jersey
signed and hung in my apartment. I'm not a kid hater. I need
more wins. Audio. All right, kid, you want piece? Did
say trader? You took away at Batman bad? Just just apologize, kid,
you are Batman. Here we go, we go. That's all you
guys say. Sorry, don't tell me what to do, all right,
But seriously, Luca and Kyrie don't like to fit, Lebron and the Russell
didn't like to fit. Is that the same win hockey? Like? Can
we grab a guy that's super talented? And I don't believe it is.
I think there's a lot of different fits to put in a hot you have
guys, Yeah, I mean, will they not be a fit on this
line? Maybe not, But then and the next line they'll look pretty good.
You know, you got four lines, so they're gonna be a fit
somewhere in the lineup. And and the guys we're looking for are not not
fitting guys like you're looking for a top fourd man and that fits on any
team in the NF in the NHL. And I think Chris Tnnev would be
great because he is a top four defensive guy on your team. He's a
big, angry AGGRESSI some dude who will put pause on people. Andy's a
right handed shot, so I think he would be a perfect fit for the
Red Wings. Nick is a chemistry matter, just same in hockey versus basketball.
I mean I think it does. I mean just from the outside looking
in. I mean I'm not I've never played on a hockey team in my
life, I'll fully admit, but I believe it. I mean, how
can it not when it's such a timing sport. You know, we've seen
it when it take time with Kine on those like back door type passes that
we still have seen our guys just miss and not be there because they're not
on the same page. I one hundred percent believe it's a chemistry sport.
But if you have the talent, the guys are going to figure it out.
Yeah, I mean, chemistry definitely matters in hockey. It's yeah,
but it's not like bringing in a guy one guy to bolster your team.
Isn't going to ruin the chemistry of your team. So you think you're still
going for it, I do something kind of pissed off it. If you
sound like you'd be pissed they don't make the move, I mean, yeah,
you want, you fucking want one. I just think they're in a
good position to make that move, and maybe they don't. And if they
don't, I mean, I'm not too mad. I trust in Steve Iisman
and what he's gonna do, but I'd like to see them at a top
four defenseman to this lineuppa Helen st. James of The Show, because I
think take it back, I think they I think they have an extremely good
chance of winning at least one playoff series, so I think a top four
defenseman will solidify that. And speaking of that playoff series, we got a
big game to night against the Capitals for trying. They got a game in
hand on us. I mean, there's a big one tonight. First thoughts
on the game can't go to overtime that that's my first thought is you need
to you need to win this in regulation. You can't let them get that
extra little cheeky point because they do have like two games in hand or something
like that. So you can't allow them to to sneak a point out of
there. You need to go out there. You need to win this in
overtime. You're better to than them. And put rets musin on Ovechkin when
he's on the ice and give him make his life out the old one and
watch out for him in the fucking slot like that's what he does. Just
put somebody on PK. Just put him in a Vekin slot so he can't
just sit there and load up because that's what he does. So uh,
Cider, No, no, not sider, somebody. I want to see
him bombs to the angle. But I I expect them to win. I
expect this to be They're coming off of a high Lions and goal Lions and
net right, Yeah, so yeah, I expect them to get this done.
Yeah. First look at the odds here, Red Wings are minus one
seventy six in this one. So I right, No, we're at home.
We're back at LCA after the quick to turnaround from Sunday. But yeah,
they played like they played horrible for the first like two periods of that
game Sunday, So I do expect them to carry some of the momentum going
in. It's a night and I'm looking forward to watching it. It's kind
of a looky, sneaky big night. And do you try sports here,
especially with especially with the Pistons coming off what they went through last game too.
Nothing Pistons, nothing the Pistons will do will make it a big bro.
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I was strictly based on it. I had a sneaky good vibe on
this one, sneaky big vibes. Now you're not selling it, sneaky good
vibe, sneak, I'm already sketched. It's well that I was the same
vibe. Yes, he's already out on it. Chris, tell me know
what you think, Speno, Let's make some cash. Twenty points a little
passive compared to that twenty five like it ivy ten. That kind of scares
me because Monty Williams. But Duran ten, Fetcini ten and during eight boards,
let's go we locking it in. I locked it in K twenty IV
ten during ten Fetucini ten during eight boards ivy ten, Duran ten. Do
hear during tent there? Yep, Fettuccini as well? Can we get Duran
ten boards? I did eight boards, A little passive on it, but
there's a thirty percent. He's good for it. Yeah, he's more good
for boards at points I switched us eight points, ten boards, Okay,
Chris, last time I was on a back to back, I think this
is where I was with it. I think he only had eight or nine
boards, So that's where I was with that one little passive on it.
Look at his recent game walk, he's it's boards over point yo. How
about Fetuccini sneaky good? Finish it like he's sneaky big? How about ten
points on him? I got down on him already, I think yeah in
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Durrington boards ten points and Kate forsys And should I grab anything from the Chicago
side. Bosch always kills us exactly healthy. No, he's off of the
season smashed the points. Who are Kobe White, Kobe White, DeMar deroz
In one of those two? Kobe's twenty two and a half. Oh,
Damar is at twenty three and a half. Tomorrow, I'm gonna take fifteen
to fifteen. It's always the veteran. How's that? Okay? Red Wings,
anyone standing out to you tonight? Spend mo? I have one?
Personally, it's to brink it. It's to brink it. He's been hot
and we know he's streaky. It's Wings money line and to break it to
get one. I like it a little passive. Andrew copp Gold for some
reason. Oh the odds on that are probably for some reason, feeling and
Andrew copp gole tonight. How about two plus shots for our boy to brink
it tonight? Yes, for sure? Shot go three. It's three,
just to say two two to minus three thirty five. And added to this
Parlay Caine two shots. Sure. How do you feel about that? Nikki?
I like Kane two shots? Kane two shots? Yeah, I do
think to brink it score three. That's my lock for the chat here.
I'm not sure I need I don't know, yeh, maybe all right?
Confidence level in the Wings picking up this big win. Thy'll spend mo eight
and a half. Whoa damn? I like it. Yeah, I've been
kind of calling it on the Wings lately, at least for the overtime goals.
Ship's just like and maybe I'm being pessimists right now, shits is too
good to be Truemantha goals that Amantha goal, revenge goal. How about Manta
shots? I think Mantha gets a tipping. I don't know if it's a
shot, so that doesn't count as a shot. Nick, you bet sche
mesk says Raymond scores calling out Raymond. I do like that. I could
see it all right, But that'll do it for today. Before you go
watch the Reveings game, go over to spend Over. Rex speaks, smash
the like button. I appreciate that. Subscribe every looks two shots, kah.
Sure that'll do it for us today, for easy, for Nick,
for Chris, I'm Spencer. Let's go fucking red Wings. We'll see guys
tomorrow. Let me do anymore. Two chefs. Mhm h