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what whatever waight slockports dot com.
I'm easy Spencer, Christopher Nicholas. I

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trusted myself, Daniel. Yeah,
Chris dressed himself today. Before the show

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starting, man was rocking the fucking
red rings ring will backwards. There was

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a chest stamp on the fucking non
existent lats. What is a fool word

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for that? Or something? Door
side, door side, something something like

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that. Have you got near the
table? I never heard of tavia all

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right, I I uh try to
pull a last minute audible because it's been

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a topic abused all day. I'm
actually surprised that made its way nationally.

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I thought it was gonna be a
local thing because nobody it is Detroit,

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verus everybody, at least I feel
that it's Detroit for us everybody. I

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didn't know that people would give a
fun enough to show Detroit the grief that

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have. But it is off season
for the NFL. It made national storylines.

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Sar Thompson tackled by de Vincenzo on
the closing seconds of Detroit Piston's game

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last night. Absolute horseship, no
call, and then they called the follow

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matter of fact, we got the
sequence right here. Chris, if you

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want three cam, if we have
it, if you're ready for it.

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This this is ridiculous. This is
discussing. Nick, feel free to keep

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the MIC's and if you want,
Chris is there's let it loop. Actually

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because it's this is just it's discussing. I don't have, I don't have.

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It's just insanity, bro, this
isn't This is insane. Tackle ball

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picked up, obviously gonna play carries
on. That's a whistle. We don't

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have a sound, but that was
a whistle. Yeah. To watch it

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from that angle, Spinny pissed me
off more than anything, because you get

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they like The New York Knicks showed
this on the social media as like a

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flex, yeah, what is wrong
with you? Yeah? It was some

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ship like that, what this is
disgusting? Bro, it's literally Rugby.

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Look at that? What are we
doing? Man? That's inexcusable? And

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then that was a whistle like come
on, yeah, DejaVu too. It's

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pretty second game in a row that
during uh during got a follow ye game

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to same way game. Do you
see somebody broke down the one with Yeah,

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okay, it was definitely half of
two feet and it's not just one

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counts as one step. There was
the travel that was wild to me,

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dumbest breakdown I've ever seen the highlight
Well then I googled it, okay,

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like there's two feet counts a step
and but this is just okay, all

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right. I talked about it like
Kate not getting the calls when he goes

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to the lane is one thing,
but not calling a travel on Paula Bankaro

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was terrible. Not calling a foul
for literally tackling a guy on the sideline

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right in front of you. Thereat
was standing right there and the dude tackles

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it. Downte Devinceendo playing free safety
runs up, makes the hit on us

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sore no call. No, that's
fine, Fuck that dude, Fuck that

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shit, Adam Silver. If you
don't do something about this shit, don't

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show your face in Detroit ever again. You're not welcome. Trick. Trick's

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gonna put you on the no fly
list because that'sh It's not fucking cool.

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We're the eight team wait, win
team, eight win team, and you're

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fucking jerking us like that. What
the hell is this shit? He was

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standing right in front of him,
James Harden gets breathed on, and it's

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a foul call. Us times have
got tackled trying to get break opportunity and

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you don't call it. This is
horseshit. Shout out to Manti for standing

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up and actually saying something about it
and doing something and taking the fine and

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saying, fuck that shit, fuck
these rets, because that's horseshit. Man.

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It's literally Detroit versus everybody. And
so I don't know if we got

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to do something like Longest yard shit
and send some people out there to just

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chuck balls at the roughs, the
ret's nuts until they start making calls.

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But that is fucking egregious, And
like I said Adam Silver. If you

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don't do something about it, never
come to Detroit again. I just don't

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do it. I don't think anyone
could have said it any better than that,

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But that was fucking phenomenal. Let
him come speak to Manti Williams.

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So we have the audio from him
last night too, or the video from

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him last night. So I love
seeing this and I don't know what it

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translates to it on the road.
Where's the New York media now? The

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absolute worst call of the season,
no call, And enough's enough. We've

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done it the right way, we've
called the league, we've sent it in

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clips. We're sick of hearing the
same stuff over and over again. We

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had a chance to win the game
and the guy dove into a star's legs

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and there was a no call.
That's an abomination. You cannot miss that

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in an NBA game, period,
And I'm tired of talking about it.

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I'm tired of our guys asking me
what more can we do coach? That

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situation is exhibit A to what we've
been dealing with all season long. And

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enough's enough. You cannot dive into
a guy's legs in a big time game

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like that, and there be a
no call. It's ridiculous and we're tired

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of it. We just want a
fair game called, period, And I

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got nothing else to say. We
want a fair game, and that was

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not fair. I'm done. Let
me let me see this camera real quick,

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Chris. This is coming from a
guy who's literally self sabotaging the fucking

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season. He has packed this season
enough. He is unifying the terrorist group

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to destroy the Detroit Pistons organization.
That's coming from that guy. So if

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you got some shade of reaction from
him, who's like openly taking to lose

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his fucking job, that's how much
of a bullshit non call that was.

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Just to point it out that way, pointed out that way, MPWMU says,

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shitty teams don't get calls. I
understand that to a point, to

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a point where it's Kate Gunningham driving
to the lane if he gets hit on

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the arm and they don't call it
like they call it on Lebron or Jason

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Tatum or somebody like that, I
can understand that to a point. But

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that was blatantly a disgusting, game
turning, game ceiling foul call that wasn't

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called. He tackled the guy right
in front of the ref. It wasn't

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oh, he just hit him on
the arm. He lunged at his knees.

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It's dirty, it's illegal, and
it should have been a foul.

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And you lost the game from the
you single handedly ref. I don't know

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who your name is, but your
stupid blind motherfucker that was off. That

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is a blatant disgusting I want to
call it tampering because, like I said,

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it is. If it's just a
slap on the arm when he's going

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for a layup and you don't call
that, I'll chuck that up to shitty

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teams don't get calls. But he
dove at his kneecaps when he had the

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ball with a one point lead with
like ten seconds left. What is that

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shit? It's the point where play
safety comes into call. And the other

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thing too. I don't want to
say half the reason they're shitty team,

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but part of the reason they're a
shitty team is because they're also not getting

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fucking calls. Kay Cunny and who's
a future star in this league, and

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I think he's proven in the past
three games, didn't get a fall call

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until last night in a three game
stretch and that's what him playing at the

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point until the last night's game,
sixty one minutes played, fifty six points

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scored. Now a single fall call
like half the reason they're shitty team,

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as the officiated, and obviously he's
not just Kay Cunny and neither you saw

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that situation with Start Thompson. We
had the picture up. You have the

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picture actually real quick, Chris,
I'm sorry, I know you want to

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speak of this too, but I
just like, this is fucking crazy because

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this point you want to call in
player safety as well, like what are

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we doing? Yeah, and then
again to watch the sequence as we did

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a liverit or if you guys just
coming in and you miss it, rewind

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because this is the fucking perfect angle
to see it. If we had some

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of that video, you hear a
whistle call on Jalen Dern straight up in

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the fucking air playing defense. I
got how you should textbook. That was

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called the fall, but the tackle
the football play made by Devin this was

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called the fucking fall. But this
was what are we doing? And I

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and I and we mentioned this at
the beginning of the season. I told

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myself, I meant two weeks the
game with you. I remember that's the

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day I broke it. I was
like, I'm not watching the Pissons game

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to the correct fucking officiated. This
is disgusting. Then I went to a

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game with Chris. It hasn't been
fixed all season. And again I'm not

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making excuse for Detroit Pistons, but
this has played a part and some of

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these wins, I'm sorry somebody's losses. I should say that would definitely a

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thousand, which is just a I
mean even going back to the Power will

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be a Carroll win too. Yeah, that was a travel Chris go to

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speak a piece, ma I apologize
that. No, that's exactly where I

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was going with the player's safety,
because this is a move that we could

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see end a player's season. This
is a move that can not only end

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this player's season, but also jeopardize
their next season. Like, this is

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a very dangerous play. So that
is why I'm even more upset. Yeah,

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I get it. You know,
we don't get calls and like Spencer

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said, if it's a slap on
the risks, fine, but this is

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one that literally could have taken out
as Sar. This could have ended in

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season, he could have lost his
season last night for what it was ridiculous,

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It was it was stupid. It
was just an egregious call. And

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the craziest thing is that it's not
the most egregious call in the last two

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months of Detroit officiating. Like go
back to the Lions game, like,

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this is just this is terrible,
This is terrible. This needs to be

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fixed. And I don't want to
be that guy that's crying my team,

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my team, My team never gets
calls. But you know what, when

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you have the Dallas play and then
you have this, how the fuck can

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you not say something? How the
fuck can you just be like, well,

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you know, we gotta play harder
guys, What do you tell these

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young guys? These are guys that
are there, they are veterans, These

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are young guys that are trying to
build winning habits. How do you instill

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confidence in them? How do you
keep them believing and fighting for a season

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that we know is lost when stuff
like this happens, when you could finally

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almost get a win, finally get
a win, and then something like that

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happens and you have to go in
there the next day if you're Manti Williams

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and say, hey, guys,
we need to keep playing hard. How

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do you do that? Man?
And Monty's been terrible and that was a

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pr layup for him to do what
he did. I don't want to take

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any discredit from it, but it
was a very easy thing to do.

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There's still plenty more to be to
be talked about when it comes to Monty,

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but I feel bad for him today
in practice. What is he telling

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the guys in walker arounds before the
game today? What is he telling them?

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Sanchez got some man? They're probably
deflated as hell. They played a

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night in Chicago. You know,
that's a game that they deserved to win

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last night, and sadly, we
just had We've seen this all year.

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It comes down to the last thirty
seconds, and this is one where it's

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just so blatantly obvious that we deserve
to win in that one. But I

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want to go back to two nights
ago, Polo nine free throws, Kate

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zero two, number one picks,
Orlando, Like eight games over five hundred

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pistons with eight wins, You like, there's so many different ways that these

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seasons can go, and last night
it's just the cherry on top of just

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thing could point out the pisses did
shoot more free throws than the Knicks last

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night. They did so, but
that doesn't That's the part I hate about

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it too, is like it comes
to the night where like Kate actually got

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a call. Kay got like more
than one free throw last night. I

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think it's six or seven. I
think might have been eight, to be

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honest with you. Yeah, but
that's the part that sucks. Okay,

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we finally get he's frobably get his
call. Some of them were both this

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is though, some of them were
like they were over the limit and you

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know what wasn't a shooting files kind
of like he got you know, he

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got Boga on the three. Yeah. But and that's other part of it

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too. It's not like we're bitching
for k like you said, oh my

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team, No, you go and
watch Kate Cuddy and play. And this

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guy's getting fucking slapped tough the wrist
every single time he's like drive into the

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lane. And the two games straight, not a single call. And this,

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by the way, again, him
scoring fifty six points in the same

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time frame, Like it's insane.
Yeah, it's not. It's not just

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us being oh whoe is me?
This is actually like bullshit happening. Four

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eyes and again, I'm glad that
it made I'm glad it happened to post

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NFL season to where it's making national
headlines now. I'm glad that stephen A

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is able to call it out.
I'm glad that I heard a rich eyes

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and call it out in the way
in today too, Like it's I'm happy

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at least that's part of it.
I just don't know what I mean.

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I hope it gets fixed because somebody
in the chat talked about the Roger Goodell

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and Dall situation, like that guy
count Cheot the referee. He's probably gonna

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referee next year too. They did
pull him on the postseason this year,

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but obviously there's fucking something wrong there, like you know, like get him

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off the fucking field. That is
egregious, especially at the day and age

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where you can't turn on the sports
station or fucking regular station, news station

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YouTube without seeing a gambling ad too. But let's throw that in there too,

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because that makes it a lot more
disgusting. It's it's it's crazy,

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and I get that, like weeds
legal here and just Michigan, but gambling's

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become more of like a national thing
where it's like that's kind of anna open

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habit that we're commercializing for people like
I realized that this year of my own

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Damn sol I'm like, damn,
like I do spend a lot of money

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on here, and I'm negative,
you know what I'm saying. I am

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like negative even when I feel like
I'm it nice. The overall turnover is

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negative for sure. And you're advertising
that NonStop. And that's the type officiator

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you have in that situation that's fucked
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Yeah, it's it's terrible, and
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I said, Adam Silver, you
gotta do something about it. This is

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on you, buddy, this is
your NBA makes something happen. Yeah,

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and for me because I didn't wow
that we're pret passionate there. We were

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already up at the break here.
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And I know it's tough because it's
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season of the no calls, the
shitty calls and the losses. But I

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just need to see that dog in
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I need Kay to respond so I
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I have the expectation of Ivy last
Thursday, and he broke my heart with

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it. I hate to do it
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a higher standard. I need something
out of him the night. No,

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I need. I need to see
Manti try to coach a winning basketball game.

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That's what I need to do.
I need to see my last team.

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I need to see thirteen players.
Oh, trust me. Look,

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there's there's no Ivy did not play
in the fourth quarter, but Grime's on

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fire, so Flynn Flynn played four
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to Ivy. No discussion there,
like Mike Muscala coaches, no play like,

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come on, like, what are
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stuff to get into. I want
to see Monty next game step up to

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this and be like, you know
what, guys, We're not losing this

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fucking game. I'm actually gonna coach. I want that he like that last

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night. That that yes, sir, that that better be the what comes

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out of this at least. I
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want it. Do you guys have
expectations that it will? Though? Because

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that's too completely different. Let's see
other part. Why is demoralized? Too,

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because it's tonight, the back to
back. Yeah, you got the

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wear down with it all too.
This, this, this is why tonight

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will be a situation I decide what
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like last night, I as I
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coming from a guy who's fucking tanking
his job. Tonight is his opportunity for

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me to like buy some Monty stock
as much as I've sold. I actually

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have zero Monty stock at the moment. But Neil put a get right out

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there for kid over twenty two and
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a half point dogs. Hey,
we cleaned up last night, Nick,

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what about young Chris, Uncle Nick?

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hell yeah, so double on spending. I just feel about last night's

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game. That's all. I talked
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jump into uh, I guess we
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to day too. Boice, Dan
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I fucking somethingbody had ball coach the
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feel like your organization is doing things
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I want to read this comment from
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cornerback out of Alabama. He says, uh, Terry on my way,

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where's that'd be? Fucking said?
We draft him and every time he gets

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a pick, we just play that
one. Zi rose above the noise and

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confusion again. Ah this illusion.
I was sorry and hi Uh, but

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I flew too high. Though my
eyes could see, I still was a

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blind man. Though my mind I
can see I still wasn't mad man.

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I hear the voices when I'm dreaming. I get even then said carry up,

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always saying you are Dune copyright there
to don't you cry no more.

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Dan Campbell spoke the media today.
Uh, he hit the presser, had

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a lot of good things to say. One of the things my first takeaways

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has got me excited for Detroit Lions
with him speaking of new coaching staff and

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Chris and I. You have that
video already or cute up or not,

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but let's let's hear that one.
You know, But to be able to

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get Trail Williams somebody that I've had, I've had experience with. I think

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he is. He's the best D
line coach in the league. If he's

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nine, he's certainly right up there. I think he knows how to develop,

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he's got experience in game planning,
and he's going to be beneficial for

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our guys up front. To Shay
Townsend played a long time, coached a

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long time, He's gonna be able
to deliver exactly what AG wants in the

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back end, and so those guys
are gonna be vital. And then certainly

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Jim O'Neill's a defensive assistant, has
been a coordinator in this league and has

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a wealth of experience. So those
guys will be good for us defensively,

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really help ag finish the vision of
what we're looking for. Dan Campbell a

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guy that we all know in love. If you don't know, now you

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know, and if you don't love
him, you're just stupid. I don't

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know what to tell you at that
point. But he put the stamp on

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Threll Williams, Yeah, as the
best defensive line coach in the league.

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Now, Dan Campbell is respected coach
in the league to go out there and

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say something like that, and by
mind you, Dan Campbell is like he'll

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hold himself back saying like wold shit
like that, Like he has been like

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truthful when speaking on a guy's like
jer Golf, I mean everyone Jo Jamo,

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right, Jamo? You know he
may not ever have Lee Hans.

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Yeah, he called Tyrrell Williams the
best defensive line coach in the league,

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and we've already had high expectations for
him. Spindy, how bad's got you

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feeling? Man, it's got me
feeling pretty good. It's got me feeling

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like Brownriick Martin is gonna do something. It's got me feeling like Josh Pascal

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can make a break and be an
upper echelon player on this defense. Like

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this is a guy who likes that
type of player, who likes that Josh

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Pascal, That John Kaminski, that
guy you can move around in the middle

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or on the outside of Deniko wat
one of those guys proven he can do

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multiple things on the defensive line.
This is a guy who can unlock the

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true potential of these guys. He
can make them legitimate dudes on this defense,

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and hopefully, please God, hopefully
can get Broderick Martin on the guy

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damn Field. I just want to
see him out there, this big sake,

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five three hundred and fifty pounds mammoth
of a human being. Get him

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on the fucking field, please please. It's all the masking. I just

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want to see him in between the
Leam and Hutch getting those double teams,

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being a eat eating it for lunch, Like that's what we need to see

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him. A fan Williams, He's
gonna be a hell of a lot better

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than John Scott Junior. I can
tell you that right now, wholeheartedly hopefully

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he can unlock the potential of these
guys. He's got the resume, Like

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I remember, we hired John Scott
Junior, wheels back like, oh,

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there's Michael Parsons. Oh Michael Parsons
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they went, Okay, well,
let's let's ride it out, Dan conmitt

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Hire, let's do it. This
guy has a track record. This guy

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has a resume of having guys come
out with the collegiate or professionally produced on

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his defensive lines. As matter of
fact, he also and I think a

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lot of us already know this,
but if you didn't, he's also the

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former defensive line coach for one,
Brad Holmes, and he has a good

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thing to say about him. Two
he's you know, so Terrell he I

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want to say that that was his
first position coach job. He might have

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been a GA at East Carolina and
he got done playing, and so I

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believe A and T might have been
his first position coach job. But Terrell

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Man, he's a he's a great
teacher, he's a straight shooter. He's

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really the first coach that really,
you know, taught me the nuances of

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achieving what you want to achieve on
the field behind the scenes. He's the

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one that used to bring me in
and sit me down and watch tape with

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me all summer and kind of learn
those ins and outs and developing a relationship

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so you know, you can build
that trust with the coach and then when

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you know he was a great coach
in terms of holding us accountable, and

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so you built that trust, and
when we didn't do the right thing,

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he held us accountable and we didn't
like it all the time. But he's

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an excellent teacher. I'm not surprised
of the success that he's had. You

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know, even when I was a
young scout, he was in the college

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drinks to say, he was at
Purdue for a while and he produced a

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lot of good defensive linemen out there
at coming out of Purdue at that time.

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And I believe I was a combine
Scott at the time, and that's

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when I really knew, like,
Okay, I knew that you were always

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a good coach, But when he
was producing all those defensive linemen out of

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Purdue, I was like, Okay, this guy's cooking with gas. But

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not surprised, very happy obviously,
you know him being my d line coach

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in college, and not why he's
here. He's here because of his body

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of org And just real quick,
this is off the top of my head

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too. You don't speak about a
body of work. Again, he has

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pieces he's a produced into the NFL, and guys that he's had professionally under

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him produced as well. We already
know about dcau Audrey. I got to

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be kind of want to bring he
as a free agent because of what Rowan

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has been able to do with him. Let me kill that. List on

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to Cliff Averril, he worked with
their at Purdue. Justin Simmons over there,

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tasty Titans. I mean, these
are just a few of the names,

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but those are names you recognize.
I mean, maybe not Denico Autry,

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but you look at the numbers.
He's like, Okay, maybe I

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should have fucking known that guys.
Why didn't I know that guy was?

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But Justin Simmons, you sure as
i'll know, these are like top tier

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guys in the defensive line. And
so one more quote from Dan Campbell,

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and I think he knows how to
develop. He's got experiencing game planning is

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going to be beneficial for our guys
up front, and I fully expect that.

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I had the expectation before that,
but here in these words, I

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got solidified or from Dan Campbell himself. Now I'm a full believer. Now

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I know it's gonna happen. He
called him the best defensive line coach in

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the league. Bro. That is
high praise from Dan Campbell. I promise

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you it is. Now. I'm
not convincing anybody in this room. I

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know you guys know that, but
for the listener at home, expect some

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out of this, especially with a
product Martin. I hate to sit here

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and tell you guys I need for
my team. A piece that I want

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for my team is a spacing defensive
tackle. When we drafted one of the

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third round, moved up to draft
one of the third round last year,

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and we saw a splash play out
him in the very first play in pads,

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and we've seen in person when he's
tackling our number one running back in

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Dave Montgomery. That's probably gonna change
this year too. Jumior Gibs obviously on

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his damn thing, but we know
we have like the potential there. Now

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we got to roll Williams and hopefully
put that in the motions. It's not

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like this production. This guy that's
gonna unlock eight Hunderdson and make him a

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twenty sag Miles Garrett type of guy. Shit, what if he does,

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it'd be nice. But I don't
think gonna see it a lot out of

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Aiden Hutchinson. I think you're gonna
see it a lot out of the other

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guys. Yes, I agree,
the other guys, the Josh Pascal's,

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the John Kaminski's, the the Will
Ferrells, the Mark Wahlbers, you know

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the opposite of hutch Like the guys. You want to see it out of

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the guys you need to see improvement
out of. He's gonna go in there.

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He's gonna tweak it because hutch is
gonna be hutch. Hutch is gonna

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be his guy. And we know
if he had some help, he would

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have had more sacks than he did
last year. But I think that the

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other guys are gonna get benefited from
this. You're gonna see the guys who

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had won two two and a half
sacks next year having five six, six

404
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.000
and a half. And it's gonna
go throughout the entire defensive line, and

405
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.920
in turn that will help Hutch because
that means more eyes on more people,

406
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.599
So you can't triple team and chip
Hutch every snap. Yeah, but still

407
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.720
I don't I don't think Hutch will
be this Miles Garrett guy because of the

408
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.240
re signing, but I think the
other guys are gonna be so much more

409
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.119
improved. Yeah, and I just
thought of one more name to add that

410
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.599
list to it, kind of like
a little bit of the recipe we got

411
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.119
cooking here. But Cameron a wake
over there at my end, Torol Williams

412
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.079
also had to do with him.
That's a guy from the CFL coming to

413
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.519
the to the NFL and just took
over the league. What do the Lions

414
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.079
just do this past offseason? And
yeah, we've got ourselves. Matthew Betts

415
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.759
No again, a lot of you
guys, Pike some crazy shit out of

416
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.319
him. I don't have that expectation. But now that I'm looking at Terroll

417
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.559
williams resume and knowing he's done that
already with the Cameron Awake, maybe I

418
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.599
might have to shave my beard or
whatever. Bet I put on the line

419
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:23.960
for those six and a half says
four and a half. Four no,

420
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.319
no, no, yes, no, you tried to change the four half.

421
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.400
It was no. I remember you
tried to told me get to change

422
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.400
it. I ain't four and a
half spicking a guy that put up more

423
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.319
than four and a half. He
was hurt all last year. But a

424
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.799
guy like James Houston, do you
think he can maybe take him to another

425
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.200
level with his experience that he brings
that's d line room, because we've seen

426
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.960
what he's able to do opposite Hutch
in some spots a couple of years ago.

427
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.240
So my answer for that one kind
of like varies only because James Houston,

428
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.559
we know that he works with Like
Shepherd as well. Yeah, linebacker,

429
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.039
I'm saying, yeah, he sometimes
in that linebacker room and he's used

430
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:03.319
as an edge specialist. But I
felt like he's majority of working with the

431
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.359
linebackers. I would like him to
be working with at least give Troil Williams

432
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:07.839
opportunity to see like what he can
cook up with them. I want him

433
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.839
in a line rush in the quarterback
for damn sure, especially if you get

434
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.960
Progerick Martin out there producing. And
I'm not talking about producing as like far

435
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.839
as like a nick and the numbers
eat the box. Yes, get a

436
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.519
of these one on one matchups.
Get Houston's won on one matchups. They

437
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.720
can capitalize do what they do best, and that's eat the fucking quarterback.

438
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.440
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what we've been asking for is

439
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.519
a big guy in the middle,
and you got one sitting on your team

440
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.720
that didn't play it all last year. So hopefully, you know, Tyrell

441
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.519
Williams can come in here and he
can get the best out of Broderick Martin

442
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.759
to make him a piece that will
benefit those around him. And that's what

443
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.680
we expected out it. We don't
expect him to be you know, the

444
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:48.079
Forrest Buckner or Aaron Donald or anything
like that. Just demanded double team so

445
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.839
the other guys can free up for
one on once. Absolutely, and I

446
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.279
know it's a fire show because the
second time he almost going over the break.

447
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.720
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Chris, Uncle, Nick ak Detroit
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470
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But also Redolks was the only GM
to speak to the media today.

471
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Spinney and I don't know if you
got to see this yet. Nick,

472
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:57.720
I don't know if you got to
see this yet. I don't know.

473
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:02.599
Chris, you have because you upload
the graics. But UH agree. Mid

474
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:07.559
Packers general manager Brian Gutenkust, Brian
what, Brian guten Kust. I can't

475
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:14.359
be guten k guten Kunst. I
feel like I'm just making up boards right

476
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.000
now. Had had some subliminal shots
for the Detro Alliance here. This is

477
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.559
a pertaining to question asking about them
chasing the DTRORI alliance for the division and

478
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.279
uh and his answer he said around
here, we've never hung banners for division

479
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.200
championships, so it's never been about
that. It's a nice starting point,

480
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.200
but I think we have always that
we're always looking for bigger things. End

481
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.880
quote with this smug fucking yeah a
guten coust. He hasn't won any Super

482
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.400
Bowls as the Packers GM. He
has not, He's not. Packers have

483
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.279
won one Super Bowl in my lifetime. That is true. It is true.

484
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:55.279
The one. The only one they
won other than uh twenty eleven was

485
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:56.920
ninety six and that was in February, and I was born in September.

486
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.680
So in my lifetime, in my
life since I've been on the face of

487
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.880
this earth, they've only won one. And I understand it's one more than

488
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.920
us. But we're catching up to
you next year, Bud, so you

489
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.519
better reset those standards. And maybe
you should start hanging banners for being the

490
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.079
Lions because we're gonna be tapping that
ass for the next years. Lions run

491
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.519
the North man. I know that
might not mean anything to you now because

492
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.759
you're not gonna win the NFC North
for a while. But talking shit like

493
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.839
you've done all this and you've done
all that, you haven't won a Super

494
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.839
Bowl in your tenure, Ben,
So maybe you should set the bar a

495
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.319
little lower, because if that's where
the bar is set, you've been consistently

496
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.240
failing since you took over. Brian
Cooton, coust Gooten cous Mixed Stut and

497
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:46.279
Stuche have only won one division since
Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes step foot down

498
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:53.480
Park, Brian Gootoncusten agreement Packers are
only two and four currently two and four

499
00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.240
because Brad Holmes and Dan Cambell,
the Detroit Lions. It's not good step

500
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.960
foot in now Park. That's including
the loss that they gave you, guys

501
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.839
and Lambo when you had an opportunity
to make the playoffs. I get this

502
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.200
a rivalry and there's gonna be some
subtle shots. But to to first of

503
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.039
all, you just had to look
on your face. You think you're better

504
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.440
than everybody. You just do no
offense. You have one of those like

505
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.079
I want to punch you in the
face faces, and you know you look

506
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.000
at that fucking ug mug every day
when you look in the mirror. But

507
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.559
to sit there and speak all high
and mighty like you've overcome the Detroit Lions

508
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:36.079
and the new regime's tenure, you
just you're wrong. Yep, you're not.

509
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.279
And now because you've already had to
see you know how hungry this organization

510
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.079
is already. You're the savages that
we have, both of brat homes.

511
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.440
You see them celebrating, you fucking
get the goosebumps on your neck, the

512
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.759
whoa breaking Dan Campbell's hand, you
know, the fucking man of Dan Campbell

513
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.039
is They try making them a girl
for the fun of it yesterday and we

514
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.200
don't want none of it. But
we would fuck your coaching quarterback, just

515
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:59.000
saying we all openly at picking your
coaching quarterback number one of those lists you

516
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:04.480
just you just fed the those animals
more bolletin board material you are about to

517
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.200
were you doing them? I mean, I'm glad you did it. By

518
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:08.760
the way, I'm happy, like
I need something to talk about, and

519
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.119
they need stuff to chew on as
well, like the Dane KapS. Don't

520
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.400
suffice they they did anymore. Brian
Goutonkus, you're gonna look like an absolute

521
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.800
douchebag by the this season. Yeah, I'm calling it right now. The

522
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.800
gree back Packers, you guys were
good last year and you got your shit

523
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.519
going along, yes, but by
the next season again, I don't think

524
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.960
we're gonna have hang any banagh for
next year's division went by the way do

525
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.199
you think. I mean, they'll
probably add it on there, put it

526
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.800
on there. Yeah, maybe if
we do. You're a nature words.

527
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.800
At one point you might even be
there long enough to see another green pack

528
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.639
about to say that. I was
just about to say that, Hey,

529
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:46.760
gouten coast, I guarantee, I
guarantee Brad Holmes ten years GM in Detroit

530
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.840
lasts longer than yours, Bud,
So you might want to lower that expectations

531
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.840
before you're doing them somewhere else,
because you're not gonna get a shot at

532
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.440
the NFC. You're not gonna be
able to hang a division title banner because

533
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.000
you're not gonna have a shot at
it for a while. Gut and case,

534
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:06.800
because Brad Holmes is here. He's
a much better GM than you are,

535
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:13.280
and he ain't going nowhere. So
get ready because if your expectations are

536
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.239
that high, if the team's expectations
are that of you, you're gonna be

537
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:21.000
packing your bags pretty soon. We
got a comment in Woover Sports Chat from

538
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.639
GB, D n C, E
and T, and the GB stands for

539
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.960
agreement packer because obvious agreement packers fan. He says, I mean, he's

540
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.679
just speaking for himself. He's speaking
historically for the franchise. Y'all overreact.

541
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.440
No, there was no reason for
him to bring up our round here.

542
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.199
We've never hung banners for division championships. We knew what that meant. Yeah,

543
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:38.920
we knew what that meant. And
maybe it's a Detroit mentality. We

544
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.280
take every little thing and give us
and when we go Michael Jordan Beebe take

545
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.280
that personally, but it's okay,
that's that's what we do. It's that's

546
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.800
how we end up on top.
We I don't want to say encourage disrespect

547
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.679
because we're atually not react to it, but when it happens, we only

548
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.800
it's only fuel for prepared for it. Yep, it's only fuel for like

549
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.639
the city in general, no matter
where it's coming from, Detroit and the

550
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.079
city itself been doubted. That's a
little bit of a come back too.

551
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.719
Matter of fact, we're hosting NFL
Draft this year. Doubt us, disrespect

552
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.920
us. Like I said, just
know, it's only be more few of

553
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.599
the tank for when we running over
your ass and it comes division wins sucks.

554
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.000
It sucks, man, I understand, like you gotta hold onto something

555
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.960
and gluten douche that that one super
Bowl that Aaron Rodgers carried you guys through.

556
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.599
I get it like you, I
don't know where you were at that

557
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:27.400
time because you weren't in the Packers
organization. You weren't the Packers GM when

558
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.039
they won that Super Bowl. He
wasn't scouting the parment. Yeah, you

559
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.519
weren't the GM, bitch, So
yeah, you don't get credit for that.

560
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.719
Yeah, nobody says, oh,
I'm glad guten Couz scouted that sixth

561
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.440
round quarterback that doesn't play on the
team anymore. Cous, Get out of

562
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.480
here with that bullshit. More like
Guten Douche just low hanging fruit. There

563
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.639
feels like, you know, it
was such a special season for the Lions,

564
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.920
and yeah we're gonna hang a ben. Or guess what we did at

565
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.440
home this year in the playoffs?
We went to and o. Last time

566
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:59.599
you had a home playoff game,
lost it to the goddamn San Francisco forty

567
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.679
nine or so. Yeah, that's
what happened when you have been the GM

568
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.239
under your ten yere r. We're
two and o at home, you're oh

569
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:08.440
and one the last time you went. So there you go. See in

570
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.000
the playoffs next year when you come
into Ford field and you look at that

571
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.000
banner and a loss. Let's go
yes, sir again, I think the

572
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.360
Packers are probably as it sits right
now, probably the second best team in

573
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.840
the division. But that's not the
first. So like, what are we

574
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.039
doing type conversations we have in here? Sorright? You never punched out though

575
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.079
they're always punching up. You want
to take a shot at the reign and

576
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.760
kings. We understand we run the
North and you're just our little brother in

577
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:38.239
the corner, yelling, screaming,
try to punch. But it doesn't matter

578
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.480
because when we get on the field
next year, we clap that ass.

579
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.199
When we win the North again,
we're gonna put twenty twenty four on that

580
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:51.559
banner too. Wis pitch your ice
spice and he said that clap yeah,

581
00:37:52.159 --> 00:38:00.119
as as the Packers are. Yeah, al all seriously though, like we

582
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.960
talked a little bit about it the
other day, but like we're like we

583
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.719
should be able to talk our ship, right, I mean, like we're

584
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:07.639
going to add to like what we
were last year for sure, gonna be

585
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.840
able to talk our ship. First
of all, Yeah, we won the

586
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.280
division, so we could talk our
ship. We could say we are better

587
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:21.440
than you because we won the division
and we won another playoff game, and

588
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.840
on top of that, you know
we're gonna do it again next year.

589
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.239
Want to be ready for that.
I want to read one in the chat

590
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.480
shout out Eduardo for this one.
Remember next same GM that had to put

591
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.239
out a statement because we infiltrated that
field after week four. It's true we

592
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.320
just over Yeah, yeah, that
is facts. Great comment there. I

593
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.079
don't make one more point too about
like maybe the division standings there, but

594
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.079
I don't know what it was.
It was something somewhat respectful to them.

595
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.880
But oh, that's what I was
gonna say. Phil says, Pack is

596
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.480
a good team. Pack are a
good team. We're a better team.

597
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.159
Yeah, we're a better team.
Because here's the thing too, is like

598
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.079
I think their defense kind turned on
a little bit in the back half of

599
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.280
last year. I know they fired
him. They got a new defensive quarters

600
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.039
they're kind of proud about. But
like Dan Campbell spoke about today, I

601
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:07.599
don't know if we have in any
of our clips, but he mentioned like

602
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.320
the talking about just like Detroit Lions, it's not a Detroit Lions like one

603
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.599
on one when you're coming into camp
this year, this is advanced. Now

604
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.519
we're four to one because we have
the same coaching staff, the same schemes,

605
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.079
everything is the same in terms of
like your head coach, offensive coordinator,

606
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.360
defensive coordia, and that maybe some
position coach changes, but I'm of

607
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.360
the belief that philosophy changes. We
just want to get you better fine tuned

608
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.679
as individuals with these other like position
coach changes, like we are steps ahead

609
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.320
of like we're there going to be
on top of the fact again we're turning

610
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.440
everybody to like what was the division
champ and NFC conference a contender, if

611
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.280
you will. But we're gonna add
to that in this in this draft class.

612
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.840
And we're also gonna and by the
way, Brad Holmes draft classes,

613
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.719
they compete right away, they hit
the field right away, and that I

614
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.360
know some of those come from like
the top of the draft obviously Ab Hodgson,

615
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.800
Jamior Gibbs, but we also have
those hits in the back half too.

616
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.360
I'm around Saint Brown, Kirby,
Joseph for Houston, Sam Laporta,

617
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.559
Brian, Brian Branch, James Houston. So we're cooking with that as well.

618
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.880
Thank you for Brian Branch. On
top of that, mister, you

619
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.480
know you don't hang those type of
banags. Gold thanks for thanks for Brian

620
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.480
branch Bro, thanks for that again, Golden Douche. Yeah yeah, Golden

621
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.159
Douche. I feel I would have
been as wrestled with this if it just

622
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.360
could just put the quote up one
more times. The face, dude,

623
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.280
because if it is the same face
he made when he was making the comment,

624
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:29.880
it was like a like, I
can't even I can't even smug.

625
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.800
Yeah, smog cheese dick smile.
I could have said it better myself.

626
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.679
That's what it is. Can you
do it? That's the square ass head

627
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.039
right, Like, it doesn't even
fit you. It's just you have to

628
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.800
be that type of guy to have
that look. I'm telling you howd let

629
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.920
me try not doing it. Nick, you got it in here. I

630
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.079
got the sash. Yeah you might
have a little bit smoke. Okay,

631
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.679
you got a little bit. Yeah, sah. Chris you just used the

632
00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.159
other time, Chris, see if
you got it in your Chris, Yes,

633
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.840
Chris, you got the Wisconsin blood
in you. Isn't he a Wisconsin

634
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:12.159
guy? What from Wisconsin looks?
Either way? When we get back,

635
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.480
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we've had in places that we've been
or has really been that way. And

667
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that's that's what it comes from.
Man. You you want to be a

668
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good team, you have to draft
well and then you and then you resign

669
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.000
those guys. I mean, that's
that's your core. And and then you

670
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:09.719
find the right pieces of free agents
to fill in with. So so I

671
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:15.679
just we both believe that. And
and so I think you got to be

672
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.360
careful. You know, you want
to go spend top dollar on a free

673
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:29.039
agent that's not your own, you
want to know everything about that player before

674
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.159
you bring them into your locker room. I mean, you can see the

675
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.679
tape all these but whereas your own
guys, you pay top dollar for your

676
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.719
own guys that are worthy from production
because you know everything about them. Right.

677
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.360
So it's just it's something we believe
in. It's something that we're going

678
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:49.599
to continue to do. This is
literally the third time that they've expressed as

679
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.000
an organization the money they spend more
than likely, or not even more than

680
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.199
likely. I'm saying more than likely
because I'm hopeful they get a big name

681
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.239
guy, but it is going to
be on the Eternal Guess. It's going

682
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.960
to be an am Rush Saint Brown's, it's gonna be in the Jared Goffs.

683
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:06.639
It's not gonna be on the Chris
Jones. Obviously, Matabuque got franchise

684
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.519
tag today or he's going to be
franchise tag today. Similar situation to a

685
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:13.719
snee but they're opening working out of
trade or whatever it may be. But

686
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.599
the money they spend is gonna be
internally. They're not gonna go out there

687
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.960
get these big name free agents.
And they believe that Another word key where

688
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.440
they've been using to is depth.
Winning the headlines in December as opposed to

689
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:30.199
March. You have you conceded spinning
the the Detroit lines are gonna quire these

690
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:34.039
blue chip guys. No, I
haven't conceded holding out. I'm holding out.

691
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.440
I'm holding out hope. I think
they're gonna bring in somebody. I

692
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.880
do because they're so close they can
taste it. And he talked about like

693
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.480
you want to spend money on the
guys you have in house because you know

694
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:47.039
who they are. They've been here
before. They're doing this. They no

695
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.440
I don't think they're gonna go get
Chris Jones or something like that, but

696
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.159
I do think they're gonna bring in
somebody to make an impact on the defense.

697
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:55.159
I don't know who it is.
I don't know where it is,

698
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.719
but I think they're gonna bring in
someone, and I understand where they're coming

699
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.000
from. You definitely got to sign
those guys in home. You gotta sign

700
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.480
you know, Dom and Ross,
Saint Browns, the Penney Suols, the

701
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.719
Jared Goffs. But guess what else
you need to sign a difference maker on

702
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.480
defense because your defense flat out wasn't
good enough last year. It wasn't the

703
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.039
defensive line was not good enough,
the secondary was not good enough. And

704
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.119
so sometimes the guys in house are
just not as good as the guys out

705
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.000
of house. So I don't think
they're good. Like I said, I

706
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.039
don't think they're gonna sign Chris Jones
or even Lugerious Need, but I do

707
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.119
think they bring it a piece or
two. Nick, have you conceded on

708
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.199
lend it a blue chip free agent? Yeah? This one hurts. It's

709
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.440
like a kind of right up to
it. It's are you ready to be

710
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.000
hurt again? We remember what happened
at the trade deadline when he didn't go

711
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.719
out and make a move, and
sadly it ended up coming to bite us

712
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.000
in the biggest game. Number two
cornerback took one off the face for a

713
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:58.519
massive touchdown for Brandon Ayuk in the
NFC Championship Game. Am I ready to

714
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.960
concede? I believe one of these
free agents maybe doesn't get the contract they're

715
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.360
looking for and is willing to sign
a one year deal late, like what

716
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.519
happened with a CJ. DJ So
I believe that that's gonna be the move

717
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.119
that they make. But they do
not go out and get one of the

718
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.199
blue chip guys early on and give
them a big contract. Easy. What

719
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.760
are you thinking? I I think
I have to concede, man. I

720
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.559
just don't think it's going down,
at least on the open market. Like

721
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.920
I could see a trade happening,
and we've seen trades happen. I mean,

722
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.719
we didn't acquire that the blue chip
piece in it. But when they

723
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.559
know they made the move for t
J. Hockinson or got rid of TJ

724
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.320
Hockins and should say obviously Jared Goff
that was like a big name trade,

725
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.320
they may too we drafted. Listen, he's beat with his people. Don't

726
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:45.360
remember the man's name, but it's
not to say anything. I remember no

727
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.119
one's name for the receiver we got
from the Denver Broncos, like that seventh

728
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:55.239
round pick Trinity trade Vinson. Like
they make moves, but it's not for

729
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:59.079
big name guys. But I think
I think this year is it, man,

730
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.960
I really do. And and I
know they're gonna make certain moves.

731
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.239
I think they's playing down like the
moves they're going to make because one piece

732
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.239
they also bring up with awesome last
week, but it's death and so I

733
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:13.800
think it's gonna be like just those
rotational guys that we're gonna get a plethora

734
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.079
of. And it makes sense because
guys do get hurt. Like what is

735
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.039
the sense of having a T.
J. Watt if he's not gonna be

736
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.199
in the playoff game for you?
And I'm not. And that's not like

737
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.360
any shades Torch because he's an absolute
dog. Don't get it twisted. But

738
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.920
like if I make a move near
Jets, actually perfect example, right,

739
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:30.159
you move and they didn't. They
give up too much. But hell in

740
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.639
high water to go acquire Aaron Rodgers
just from his Tiaras Achilles in the first

741
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.280
game of the year. You can't. You can say that about anybody takes

742
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.880
you bring in. You can say
that about anybody. What happens to Jared

743
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.239
Goff's Terrace's Achilles, that more fucked. What happens if Penny School does it,

744
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.239
then we're fucked. You can't say, oh, I'm not gonna sign

745
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:50.079
somebody because they might get hurt.
You can't say that, you can though,

746
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.920
because that's weak. They they made
a mos and witness that happened before

747
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.760
their eyes. Like I guess the
way they're looking at is like why spin

748
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.679
all these assets to acquire a guy
in the market. They're going to reset

749
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.840
the fuck markets even get just tonight
and be sureing like what's gonna happen like

750
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.039
down the line, like it's it's
it's just risky business. And I think

751
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.760
this is how they look at all
these guys. I'm very curiously the type

752
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.960
of deals that alman Ra and Jared
GoF get just because of the way they're

753
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.920
talking now and then I get there
there they have hyped up the word internally

754
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.719
mentioning those and we got Jared Goff
top like later on the show too.

755
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.719
I wish I grabbed a cut from
it. I think I'll tried to do

756
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.320
it during the commercial break, but
I'm conceding, man, if I could

757
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:25.320
see him grabbing a piece, it's
just not gonna be on the market.

758
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.440
It's not gonna be like on a
rental. They're gonna sign free agent's gonna

759
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.679
be a blue chip guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what

760
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.280
do you consider a blue chip guy. I mean the guys at the top

761
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.000
of the position group they grabbed.
You know, they did grab David Montgomery

762
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:43.400
last year, but the running back
contract they were guys. Yeah, but

763
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.599
that was that fell on our lap
and it wasn't like a blue chip cut

764
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.559
nobody. He didn't even get what
he wanted on the markets. Why he's

765
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.679
not one year proven do but Dave
Montgomery got. But the running back position

766
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.800
at that time kind of the valued. Obviously the group text that they thought

767
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.119
was gonna save that. You know, direspect those guys that they're fucking beast,

768
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.599
But like the burning back market's down
right. We got Dave Montgomery,

769
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:07.280
Eckler, and Derrick Henry hitting free
agency right now, so I just think

770
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:08.880
if they get somebody, it's gonna
be got a few guys left in a

771
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:14.800
deal in a b through trade.
Yeah, that's just what I'm conceding.

772
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.400
I think they're gonna sign some guy. I don't Again, I don't think

773
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.920
Chris Jones was ever in their in
their sights or the top guy in the

774
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:23.800
market was ever in their sights.
But I think they're gonna bring in difference

775
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.519
makers. I think they're gonna bring
in a couple of guys either on that

776
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.880
defensive line or in that secondary that'll
play, that'll play well, and that'll

777
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:37.079
contribute to winning. Uh. I
guess, like, well, what's Isn't

778
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:38.639
there a word like when you really
want something that you just like in denial

779
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.639
of it, It's just like how
bad that you need to happen? Got

780
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.639
the blinders on? Yeah, lit
a little bit of blind Did you consider

781
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.199
DJ Reeder or Leonard Williams a blue
chip guy? I said, Linn Williams

782
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.280
probably being being like a blue chip
guy. And the only reason why I

783
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.760
say that is because we saw freaking
no destructor Javion Clowney. But like he

784
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.280
got like a pretty nice deal after
like being kind of mid throughout his career.

785
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.960
Obviously, Old Beckham getting more than
DeAndre Hopkins on the open market last

786
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.159
year, fucking insane, that makes
zero sense, Like he has that cachet

787
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.760
of the name value. So I
can see little Williams kind of like floating

788
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.079
a little bit towards that. I
don't think. No, I don't consider

789
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.639
DJB to blue chip guys. That's
why I can't say they're gonna acquire those

790
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.639
type of dudes. I think.
I think we're a blue chip team.

791
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:21.360
So if there's like kind of blue
chip guys like towards the end of the

792
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.719
career, like this is again to
make the Stevie White reference, like a

793
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.960
guy in Patrick Kane situation in NFL
this year, like thirty five still want

794
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.920
to get a ring, Still play
the winning organization that's doing things the right

795
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.360
way. Detroit would be your spot
for you, you know, but it's

796
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.039
no longer. The blue chip names
were not blue chip guys. But listen,

797
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.199
I respect what they've done so far. Regardless, I feel like there

798
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:45.960
may be a piece away, And
no, Brad Holmes doesn't believe in that

799
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.000
philosoph of being a one piece away, but maybe that's him saying, hey,

800
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.119
he's gonna be more than one piece. Maybe we're gonna have a couple

801
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.199
of them. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see if he does make the

802
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.679
move though, I'm talking about the
trade this year. You guys think it's

803
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.480
be in the draft or you guys
think would be like for a guy right

804
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.920
now because they said they want to
fix needs in free agency. Yes,

805
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.719
they said they address needs in free
agency. Fuck man, I don't like

806
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:14.440
this class of free agents. I
mean, I'm Kendall Fuller. I did

807
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.079
turn around and get myself a little
excited about that because it is an upgrade

808
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:21.639
over Kendell Wildred in the day.
But like, fuck bro, we want

809
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.119
a lockdown guy. Yes, Unfortunately, I mean, those guys don't just

810
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:29.360
grow on trees. You know.
Teams don't really let go of guys like

811
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.679
that too often. Maybe they do
make a trade, Maybe they trade for

812
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.679
one of those guys, whether it
be a J. C. Horner or

813
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.159
Patrick certain that are on the last
year of their contract out of that draft

814
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:42.440
class. So we'll see what happens. But I Brad Holmes is going to

815
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.679
improve this defense. We saw him
do it last year with the secondary.

816
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:52.360
It just didn't work out because of
the obviously the injury of Emmanuel Moseley.

817
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.800
But he got three players to bring
in to be starters on that secondary.

818
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.320
Last year in free agency, I
think he gets three players. I think

819
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.880
he gets two or three players to
be key contributors to this defense. And

820
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.840
free agency this year, I'm just
on the gears are going in my head.

821
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.239
I'm excited to see what this coaching
staff, like, what the effect

822
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.239
of this player staff has to do
with bringing in free agents. And the

823
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.559
success that we had in the postseason
last year with the home field advantages that

824
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.920
we had and the away field advantages
for that matter, we literally took over

825
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:27.079
stadiums last year. I wonder if
that's going to have anything to do with

826
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.800
this free agency class where we are
actually a destination for the first time.

827
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.079
I mean maybe in my lifetime.
I don't know about you guys, but

828
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.480
I actually believe we're going to be
a destination for some of these free agents.

829
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.039
It feels like that's what they're banking
on, right, is the coaching

830
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:44.880
staff to be the change they want
to see in that defense. When speaking

831
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.000
about the changes, I mean,
that's what Dan Campbell said. They don't

832
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:51.719
want to fit AG's vision a little
bit better, does only that's what they're

833
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:53.880
banking on, And I do believe
the Towel Williams hiring, the Shaye Townsend.

834
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.320
We got to see that one play
out, and then obviously O'Neil as

835
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.440
well. But for me, just
again with what we got going on on

836
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:06.719
the offensive side of the ball when
it comes down to clutch moments like,

837
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.159
I just don't know if we have
it there in the playoff games against like

838
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.239
the big name teams and jag to
get done where I just want. I

839
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.519
feel like you need a complete team
all the way around to do it.

840
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.760
That's just that's is where I'm mad
with it. And if we get the

841
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.199
blue chip guy, it's probably gonna
bea through the draft and he's gonna be

842
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:23.599
a stud, or they're gonna make
the trade. I just don't know how

843
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.800
much more I'm making up on the
trade happening. J C. Horn is

844
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.880
still probably out there. Obviously,
he's certain they're picking up his fifth year

845
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.239
options. They have big plans to
keep him. But the Panthers, who

846
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.760
knows what the fuck they're doing.
I have they're about to pay Brian Burns

847
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.079
thirty million. Yeah, I have
no ideas they're doing. So we brought

848
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:44.400
Jacey Horn actually might be the name
I've seen it thrown around in the chat

849
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.960
a little bit. Could you see
the blue chip type player that we're looking

850
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.719
for actually already be on this roster
and maybe just needs to be unlocked.

851
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.679
Spenny, I know you love a
guy like Alee McNeil in the middle of

852
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.280
the pair with Aiden Hutchinson. Easy. Do you think this could be something

853
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.400
internal that happens because I have the
utmost fate that Brian Branch is gonna become

854
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.039
a superstar for this team as starting
as next year. Yeah, I mean,

855
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.679
I think Allie McNeil's a Pro Bowl
talent. If he stays healthy,

856
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.840
he can do that. He can
be a guy that gives you seven eight

857
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.639
nine sacks a year from that interior
defensive lineman position. So hopefully he can

858
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.920
stay healthy, hopefully he can go
out there and do things. But on

859
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.400
top, you still need somebody else. Yeah, you still need someone who

860
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.639
else? Like we only have three
defensive tackles on the roster right now.

861
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.000
Yeah, literally it's Levi own Zerike
who shouldn't be on the roster. No

862
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:35.119
offense to Levi, but Broderick Martin
and alle McNeil, Like you're gonna sign

863
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.199
they're signing a defensive tackle in free
agency. Yeah, you can put that

864
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.679
on Wax Like, I don't know
who it's gonna be, but they're definitely

865
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.760
bringing somebody in. You know,
I was thinking too, I was trying

866
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.360
to like drawl aperol Gues today that
Patrick Kane, you're gonna talk my guy

867
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:52.280
win the Heart Trophy. How about
Stephen Gilmour, former defensive MVP out there

868
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.559
kind of towards end of his his
uh playing window two? Is that guy

869
00:55:55.599 --> 00:56:00.119
you comeable going out there and getting
with that? Yeah, yeah, for

870
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:07.280
sure. Again that's he's a lot
better than fucking Kendall wildor no disrespect to

871
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.960
Kendall wildor but yeah, Stefan Gilmour
literally is one defensive Player of the Year.

872
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.840
He's definitely uh on the back nine
of his career, but he's still

873
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.719
a great player. And I guess
it's to answer your question, Nick,

874
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:20.760
I think yeah, I think they
do. I mean, I think Dan

875
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.679
Kemball spoke to a little bit too. They feel like they have their core

876
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.800
guys in place. Is filling the
holes like through free agency whatnot? I

877
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.920
think I think Aiden obviously is a
blue chip guy. But if he if

878
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.320
you if you're able to get brodig
Martin to step up produce and his role

879
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.519
to a blue chip level, and
not I mean talking about it necessarily the

880
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.760
past rushing, but just eating up
double teams. Then yeah, Aiden's gonna

881
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:44.119
shine and Alan's gonna shine. We
just need that. We just need that

882
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.480
part of it. And I hate
saying it when he's on the roster,

883
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.239
but that's so too. Williams here
for so we'll see baby, I mean,

884
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.800
I'm hoping, so yeah, I'd
love to sumplem at it with with

885
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.559
the Gilmore. Honestly, that'd be
great to start this free agency, so

886
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.239
it's not such a big wide open
need. And another guy that Will wanted

887
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.800
a single out here. It's Jack
Campbell and I'd said it about Brian brow

888
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.519
a sophomore jump. I think Campbell's
a huge season. I think so too.

889
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.199
I think I think he's got the
run game down. Now it's time

890
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.280
to see him flourish as a pass
defender. And he's got the frame for

891
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.880
it. He's got that letticism for
it. Obviously, we saw Intelane get

892
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.760
his hands on a couple of balls
this year that equitted for like Terry Jacobs,

893
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.239
no respect to him, but he's
not in the team before forward he

894
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.800
lost his starting spot, he was
able to capitalize and angle to get his

895
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.159
hands on balls pause. So hopefully
Jack Campbell can start to take that next

896
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.280
step in his development. I believe
you will because I believe in Calvin Sheppard.

897
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.920
Some bets actually speaking of acquiring as
coaches, Calvin Sheppard obviously been that

898
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.199
for our linebacker room. So mindy
Toros can be that for the defensive line.

899
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.960
That'd be nice. It would be
freaking nice, be very nice.

900
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.199
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930
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a friends at a stream. We
before we get into it. I just

931
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.039
saw a quote that when we were
put up there, we talked about Terrell

932
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:00.719
Williams and what he could into the
defensive line, and he is a quote

933
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:07.559
saying violent. I'm not giving you
a dissertation. You gotta play violent and

934
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.360
with effort. So that just is
lockstep with what Aaron Glenn wants to be,

935
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.840
what Dan Campbell wants his players to
be, what this team is be

936
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.440
violent, the aggressive, play with
maximum effort. I think he's gonna fit

937
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.639
in very well, very well.
Again, no disrespect to John Scott Junr.

938
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.320
But like listening to his introductory press
conference, I just didn't get that

939
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:29.679
vibe from him, Like he was
kind of like I want to say,

940
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:31.960
say, soft spoken, yeah,
laid back, yeah, laid back,

941
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.519
relaxed versus like you know how Dan
Campbell, And it came out the gate

942
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.119
to I'm biting fucking kneecaps ag when
I podcast. I want to bring back

943
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:43.880
the physicality of football. And then
that's how you want your defensive line coach

944
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.320
speaking. And that's gonna be And
again he was elsewhere beforehand. I talk

945
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:51.400
about it all the time, especially
defensive line. You can't be nice and

946
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.719
play defensive line in football. You
gotta be violent. You gotta be aggressive,

947
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.559
you gotta be angry. You're trying
to rip dude's heads off every play.

948
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.079
Like I want my defense of lineman
to be angry, aggressive assholes for

949
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:05.559
the most part. Absolutely, I
mean as much as like Hutches, Uh.

950
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.199
He is like a nice guy.
We saw in the very first year,

951
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.280
his rookie year on Hard Knocks and
preseason him talking that ship to the

952
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.760
Falcons offensive lineman. You get the
me. Yeah, he flips the switch.

953
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.480
You gotta fit the switch when you
get there on that field. A

954
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.840
couple of comments being made with wover
sports Chat, and I want to give

955
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.039
Travis his new credit because he is
the one that first brought it up to

956
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:24.559
us, but at the time thought
he had mentioned different Latimore, but uh,

957
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:30.800
Marshall Lattimore. Yeah, over in
the Saints New or Orleans. Yeah.

958
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:31.880
There. I looked over the cap
and I don't know if it's been

959
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:36.519
updated since they renewed Derek Carr's contract. I know they took like twenty million

960
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.559
down from that one. They just
renewed somebody else's contract to it. Believe

961
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.360
it was like seven million. But
there's still as it currently sits over the

962
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.239
cap. They have a draft class
to sign. They're probably looking to offload

963
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:52.440
a few guys. Latimore that fits
the mold of a guy that I think

964
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.239
Dan Campbell Bradholmes will acquire. It
fits precisely actually what I think could happen,

965
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.239
because again, I don't think they're
gonaquire these blue chip pieces on the

966
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:00.840
market. They do, so it's
gonna be through a trade of the guy

967
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.559
that already has a few years on
his contract. If you could somebody who

968
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.119
doesn't mind looking up Alatimore's current contract
and I'm curious what that is. That

969
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:12.920
makes perfect sense because you have Aaron
Glynn who formerly worked with them in New

970
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:16.119
Orleans. Obviously the guy's a fucking
stud and I could speak to that just

971
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.920
from like when I watched him this
year on Monday Night Football or Sunday Night

972
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.920
Football against the Jaguars. Calvin Ridley
was fucking up. He's a monster,

973
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.440
and he's still one of the higher
I guess perceived the higher guys on like

974
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.199
this free agency class. He shut
him down. He was non existent.

975
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.400
He fucked up my parlam and I
was like, God, Damnimore is good

976
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.920
man. That that was the thought
I had like coming away from it.

977
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.320
Yeah, the sainty to clear up
some cast space, and that's a perfect

978
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.400
That's literally what I've been telling you
guys. I don't think it's gonna be

979
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.000
on the market. It's gonna be
through a trade. That's a perfect candidate

980
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:45.719
for that. I think it could
happen, Honestly, God, I love

981
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.360
for it to happen. We saw
it happen last year with Jalen Ramsey.

982
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.920
Nobody really expected him to go for
as little as he went for. But

983
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.840
Brad Holmes is gonna do something I'm
telling you he is gonna bring in a

984
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:01.239
quarterback. There's no way in God's
green area that Week one we have the

985
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:06.880
same cornerbacks we did in the NFC
Championship game. I promise you that he

986
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.559
knows it's too important. He knows
the window is too small, and he

987
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.320
knows you need more fucking talent out
there. Like it's you need better players

988
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:15.519
to be a better team, and
we want to be a better team.

989
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.079
We want to win a super Bowl. So I'm currently looking at Marshaw Latimore's

990
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.239
contract, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, he's signed through twenty twenty seven,

991
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:28.360
and they could off him. Oh
it would actually it would hurt them.

992
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:32.320
Let me see home on postcut.
Maybe that changes anything. Yeah,

993
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:37.199
Okay, they could off him and
it'd only be like a million dollars savings,

994
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.719
but still savings that they need to
make. Marshaw Lattimore is also through

995
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:43.760
contract through twenty twenty seven. And
again you talk about Brad Holmes saying he

996
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.239
wants to be careful with spending that
money. He wants to be making calculate

997
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.519
decisions. You're not spending that money, just acquiring the contract that's already there,

998
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.480
and talking about like being careful and
calculated. Again, you have the

999
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:58.840
inside source all you need with AG
working with this kid beforehand. Yeah,

1000
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.400
that was the big art is he
emphasized knowing everything about the player, and

1001
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:11.519
that's why him and Brad are so
tent and certified on bringing not bringing in

1002
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:16.679
free agents, but dealing mostly in
house. And that's why this makes sense

1003
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:21.000
because there is the AG connection and
you know, he probably doesn't know him

1004
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:26.840
completely, but he knows a more
than ninety percent of the other free agents

1005
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.760
or players have become available via trade
like that. That's something that lines up.

1006
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.880
I'm perfectly I'm not gonna lie guys. I'm feeling comfortable enough to go

1007
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:39.280
out there and say it's gonna happen. Say it's gonna happen. Yeah,

1008
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:41.960
he played with Glenn, right,
Yeah, yeah, I played with Glenn.

1009
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:44.519
He's drafted in twenty seventeen. But
it's the same way we had that

1010
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.480
feeling for the Dave Montgomery shit going
down. This This is like, this

1011
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:51.199
is like Zach Sneer, we just
trot out. I mean, how many

1012
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:54.519
more times I can say it?
This is fucking this is happening, big

1013
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:58.000
Brad Holmes guy, because he's only
played in seventeen games the last two years,

1014
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.719
so he's dealt with some injuries that
I'll deter you at all from going

1015
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.760
after him. Uh No, no
it doesn't, because I mean in a

1016
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:11.239
trade he gets discounted off rip in
the first year to where I got me

1017
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.719
twenty twenty five. It's looking like
a thirty million dollar caphit. But that

1018
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.440
obviously be negotiated. I believe that's
that's what I mean. The cat has

1019
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.920
always gone up too. By the
way, inuries don't scare you at all.

1020
01:05:21.719 --> 01:05:24.679
What are we looking at, Nick
womni games? You played the past

1021
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.079
ten games last year and seven games
before that, So just the last two

1022
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.880
that I'm looking at ten games twenty
twenty three, seven games twenty twenty two.

1023
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:36.880
I mean, for me, I
think that just lowers the asking price,

1024
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.760
right. I like the sound of
that, That's what I'm saying.

1025
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:44.599
I mean before I I mean,
this guy who's the defensive rookie of the

1026
01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:49.800
year, four time Pro bowler.
Was he in the All Pro his rookie?

1027
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:55.239
No? No, he was.
I would I mean, what's the

1028
01:05:55.320 --> 01:06:00.599
value here, you guys think will
be around for what Jalen Ramsey went for.

1029
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:02.960
I would assume it's going to be
around there. Yeah, a third

1030
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.519
round pick something like that. It's
nothing. You're not gonna have to give

1031
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:10.079
him a third without this guy like
that, That's what it is. I

1032
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:15.000
mean he is how old is he? Ninety six? Twenty seven years old?

1033
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.880
Ramsey was thirty twenty nine when he
got traded same, Yeah, I

1034
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:24.360
think it was twenty nine. Zy
was all pro. So yeah, that's

1035
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:28.760
fair. I mean we got two
third rounders, that's all I'm saying.

1036
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:31.239
We got two of them selling him. I'm like the value of him in

1037
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:35.360
a trade, I don't think so
what would you being the part with to

1038
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:41.280
acchoire him a third round pick?
Just the one and something in something else

1039
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.519
small, maybe like a future fifth
or something like a four focus. Yeah,

1040
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:53.360
yeah, I'm give him for and
one of the last Mustangs in production.

1041
01:06:56.239 --> 01:07:00.679
I'm looking at his completion percentage of
last year's games. I have to

1042
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.119
go to the Dvance analytics for that. But I'm all for making the risks

1043
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:08.280
because, you know what, we
were this close this year, and you

1044
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:12.480
got to expect internal growth, not
only from the coaching staff but the players

1045
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:15.599
as well. Because this is a
young nucleus and if you think about you

1046
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:20.039
just plug him in and okay,
say he's cj DJ like he misses most

1047
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:24.320
of the season or some of the
season here and there. All he has

1048
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:28.880
to do is make one or two
plays in that NFC Championship game and we're

1049
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:31.559
in the super Bowl. Like this
team isn't that far away. So that's

1050
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:38.360
why I'm okay with going after a
quote unquote injury risk, because when you're

1051
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:42.360
so close, you don't need their
full potential. Now that'd be great.

1052
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.440
I'd love to have him play all
seventeen games this season, but you don't

1053
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:49.519
truthfully need that. You need him
to just be better than Kendall wildor and

1054
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:57.719
and what else the Detroit Lions secondary
had, So that's easy. He was

1055
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:01.719
put on IR with an ink injury
and did not return. His head coach

1056
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:05.119
Dennis Allen said it was fairly significant. But I mean, by now,

1057
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:11.199
you gotta think that ankle's just he'll
be five. Yeah, it's true,

1058
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.239
he should be fine. It's very
true. I'm trying to find his Uh.

1059
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:16.479
I don't want to go to PFF
for this man. Just give it

1060
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.319
to me Pro Football Reference. I'm
looking for, like his completion per ses.

1061
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:24.000
He's allowing the quarterbacks I might have
to go to PFF on this one.

1062
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:28.039
I didn't want to, but I'll
pull it up. We got Kirby

1063
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.399
if he says Denver Blair, neither
of which play corners. Yeah, yeah,

1064
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:36.359
those are two safeties. Yes,
but thanks for playing. But we

1065
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:40.520
three and three says, are we
to a point where we go for clownies

1066
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.399
and Ramsey's and Mike Evans first of
all, Mike Evans an comand some money.

1067
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.720
And Andrew Jones makes a good point, we don't want a budget cornerback

1068
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.640
on an island with JJ towyst the
year. It's a great point, fantastic

1069
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:55.800
point. Like it's you got good
receiving on top of j DJ Moore,

1070
01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:58.279
it's pretty damn good as well.
You got a bunch of guys in the

1071
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.720
Packers that are pretty good. Look
what Brandon Au didn't do us in the

1072
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:05.600
NFC Championship game, Like, having
a lockdown cornerback is extremely important in the

1073
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:10.000
NFL, especially when you're trying to
play these better teams CD, LAMB,

1074
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.279
Mike Evans, Brandon Au and Justin
Jefferson all cooked us in a row.

1075
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.159
I'm looking because GB D, n
C, E and T and the will

1076
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:23.479
which four. Chat says that they
just restructured him in January. Uh yeah,

1077
01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:27.199
one month ago. Restructured, reduced
salary cat pit from twenty five million

1078
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:31.680
to fourteen. I mean still do
it? Fuck it? Yeah, I

1079
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.399
mean pick up the phone. That
does make me want to change the guarantee

1080
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:39.319
there. I'm not necessarily guarantee,
but something to keep on the radar.

1081
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:42.359
Fuck. I wanted it to happen
so bad. DNC, Why I gotta

1082
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.119
ruin that for me? Man?
Why I gotta ruin that for me?

1083
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:50.960
I guess the concerns continues. Chat
find us some cvs with some some dbs

1084
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:54.319
like this man. Yeah, we
need them, and I think that's how

1085
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.199
we gona acquire him going forward,
because obviously not grabbing an open market.

1086
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.920
Just breaking news with Jerry Steeds saying
that he's for sure shopping for a new

1087
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:02.199
team via trade, but they're not
gonna pay a guy like that. They're

1088
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.600
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guy named Darren McCarty on our shide
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1105
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1107
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The never KG and the rest of
the crew from eleven to one pm

1109
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come by the Suburban Collection Showplace at
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1110
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:18.800
Novae say what up though to the
boys, get some pictures, get some

1111
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food, and also they got top
line technology and services from the exhibitors as

1112
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.720
well. I'm talking about lawn and
landscape equipment, heavy duty equipment, snow

1113
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:31.399
equipment, trucks, know you all
love you some trucks, nursery stock,

1114
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:36.119
Chemicole's hardescape, irrigation, water features, lighting, all that good stuff.

1115
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:41.960
It's a lot that's uptime al to
equipment. That is a March fifth,

1116
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.119
By the way, March fifth,
you guys wanna pull up and chill with

1117
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:46.680
the boys. I'm looking at trade
candidate's in the NFL. How do you

1118
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:51.199
guys feel about CBS bro like they
do some click baby stuff. No doubt

1119
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:54.520
you know what I'm saying. I
want to click on this article. But

1120
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.800
just my experience as a Detroit Lions
fan with CBS stuff is like ass bro.

1121
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.119
I don't even like they've ruined it
for me. This is the first

1122
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:05.399
publication. I'm like, yeah,
I'm just not gonna actual Bleach report.

1123
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:09.159
It's been great to me, so
I always click on their stuff, But

1124
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:13.520
CBS the first one. Yeah,
for sure, it's a CBS is bad

1125
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.960
Sporting News? How you filming this
one? Should we be click on this

1126
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.840
one? What do you? What
are you doing? I'm just trying to

1127
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.560
find such trade candidates? Many ms
N? What is that? NBC?

1128
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:30.039
Is that? What that is?
MSN? Though, Oh, I'm not

1129
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:33.279
familiar with the game. I just
want a cornerback man, That's all I

1130
01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:39.279
fucking want. Bd. Oh here's
one, No, that's not would be

1131
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.880
nice to shift gud Oh he's a
fraidy too, isn't he? Yeah,

1132
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.479
Murphy Wanny would be nice. These
are all receivers in this one man tra

1133
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:53.159
Davious White. Such, Yeah,
he's got cut, he's got cut where

1134
01:13:53.159 --> 01:14:00.960
he's about to get cut? Oh
yeah, chills interior thing. That's Bradhlmes

1135
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.159
as Brad Holmes inered like the past
four four years. Hey him and Manuel

1136
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:06.720
Mosey on one year deals, and
I just I'm not complaining. I'm just

1137
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:13.199
saying I am not complaining. I'm
also that one's a little too too risky

1138
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:17.439
for me. Are you comfortable if
it is at Manuel Moseley and kendallvilldeor if

1139
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:23.520
that that's the hole now and they
draft someone to not really no, no,

1140
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.159
because the injuries. I mean,
you got there with Kendell Wildor.

1141
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.199
Yeah, I understand you got there
with Kendall Vildor, but you also gave

1142
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:31.960
up twenty seven straight un answered points
in the NFC Championship game with Kendall Bildoor

1143
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:34.560
got throw Williams helping the d line. Well, I'd rather have a good

1144
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:39.800
cornerback as well, putting pressure on
them now. I feel the thing that

1145
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.119
like bust my boss a little bit
too, is like when Dan Campbell and

1146
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.199
Bradhlmes like speak on these things,
they feel like they speak from their experience

1147
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.880
at other places when they've when they've
witnessed success. I know the Saints traded

1148
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:53.600
for Jimmy Graham. I know they
traded away Jimmy Graham. Yeah, for

1149
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.880
the center, which I mean I
don't know if they made any other big

1150
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:01.079
plays, but obviously the Rams made
plenty of fucking crazy moves. That's like

1151
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.840
where Brad Holmes come from. It's
like, what do you mean, don't

1152
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:08.960
believe it? You've you saw,
Yeah, it worked, it worked,

1153
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:13.399
We'll figure it out again. Like
I said, I I find it very

1154
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:16.439
hard to believe that go into next
season with Kendallvilder and camp Sutton as they're

1155
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.800
one and two on the outside,
I do think they're gonna they're gonna make

1156
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:25.600
some changes. Next week we'll be
joined by Ted Winn from the Athletic and

1157
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:29.920
hopefully you'll have some insider news for
us too, Maxua. I'll send some

1158
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.039
text off this week too with the
combine, all that kind of stuff discussed

1159
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:38.000
the combine either way, but without
further Deuce Spinny Dan Campbell changing the NFL

1160
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:40.079
landscape, but it comes to hiring
had coaches, Yeah, we got a

1161
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:44.239
Dan Campbell video about it. We
talked about it before about like if we

1162
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:49.159
think the success of Dan Campbell is
gonna lead to NFL coach or NFL gms

1163
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:55.680
and owners looking at these guys who
are maybe not the prototypical NFL head coach,

1164
01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:00.399
Like maybe not the guys that you
always see the smart uh or the

1165
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:04.399
run of these offensive geniuses that we
saw and maybe they're gonna switch over to

1166
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.279
more Dan Campbell type guys. And
you kind of saw it with Dan Campbell,

1167
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:14.159
with Demiico, Ryan's getting that job, with Antonio Peers retaining the job

1168
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:20.439
in Las Vegas, and Dan Campbell
had some thoughts on the job. Well,

1169
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:24.159
look, I would say that Antonio
did a good job over there.

1170
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:28.399
I mean, so that that's that
speaks for him. You know, it's

1171
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:30.920
not an easy situation. I've been
in that as an interim and to take

1172
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.560
over and you know you're trying to
do it your way, but you're trying

1173
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:40.319
to keep at a float. So
but I thought he did a tremendous job

1174
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:45.000
here, earned that, he earned
another opportunity. So you know, I'm

1175
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:49.199
sure I am. I'm part of
that as far as not that, but

1176
01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:53.479
just the Hey, maybe there is
a thing with the ex players, But

1177
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:57.039
but I think those guys have done
a good job. Demiko's done a good

1178
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.760
job. He's earned that. So
I just bring it up again. You

1179
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.399
can find good coaches that are ex
players and coaches have never played the game

1180
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:10.399
at the NFL level. You can
so they're out there. You just got

1181
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:17.479
to find them. I've read a
comic real quick from because I messed with

1182
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.840
that at a ward O'Neil. That's
that's the homie. I like the comments

1183
01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:23.319
he puts in, and he put
a coment that caught my eye because I

1184
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.159
don't necessarily agree with it half the
time. But he says, Steve Wild's

1185
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.760
those balls like scroll up to Steve
Wilde's comments. I probably just going for

1186
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:32.720
the Dan Chemic coach stuff, he
says. Autrey Gilmore van Geekle draft extended

1187
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:36.600
leaves to ol Amarah outside the extensions, Autrey Gilmore van Gekle, I would

1188
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:40.159
love that whole, yeah, of
free agents, that'd be nice. I'd

1189
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.960
be pretty comfortable doing that. And
if I'm being honest with you. But

1190
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.640
on to Brad Holmes, I actually
love that whole. That would be beautiful.

1191
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.880
But Brad Holmes, I'm sorry.
Dan cam Wl changing the landscape with

1192
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:53.920
the NFL. I think it's in
the eye to be older man, because

1193
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.279
I do think in some sense.
Yeah, But at the same time,

1194
01:17:57.359 --> 01:17:59.920
we heard that and I don't know
if it's true or not. I was

1195
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.600
we hear like weird stuff about Ben
Johnson and his stuff. But Mike Rabel

1196
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:08.479
physically intimidated an owner out of hiring
him as a former head coach of the

1197
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:12.159
year, a guy that that's drugged
and of know this means a disrespectful sense

1198
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:14.800
if it comes off that way,
I apologize. But Ryan Tannehill as he

1199
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.600
started quarterback to a conference championship game, like, that's a guy you would

1200
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.600
want to hire if it's changing on
the landscape. And hiring former players turned

1201
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:26.119
coaches like that's him not having a
job is crazy to me. It's literally

1202
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.399
a football team, not a debate
team, like intimidated by want somebody intimidating.

1203
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:34.960
As brilliant as some of these offensive
minds are outside of Kyle Shanahan,

1204
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:39.680
I still feel like you need that
football coach in you because at the end

1205
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.079
of the day, like it's it's
a mind over matter a lot of these

1206
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.840
situations, man, and you want
a guy that's been in the trenches beforehand

1207
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:47.359
to hype these guys up. But
knowing that like the victorious side of it

1208
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:53.239
exists, they respect that. They
they resonate with that more. Yes,

1209
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:57.520
as players, when you know that
guy's been there before, he's done that

1210
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.800
before, he's been in the situations
He's been in these trench he's been in

1211
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.640
Super Bowls, He's been on Owen
sixteen teams. He's done all of this

1212
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:08.399
in his career before. He's gone
through the rules of training camps, of

1213
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.880
OTAs of a regular season, of
a deep playoff run. He knows how

1214
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:14.760
it feels. You listen to that
more, you hear that more, you

1215
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:18.680
respect that more. And you saw
what happened with a guy like Antonio Pierce.

1216
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:24.159
He took over the same exact team
as Josh McDaniels and turned them around.

1217
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:28.159
They look completely different. Antonio Piers
did a very very good job with

1218
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:31.359
that team, and I was even
like struck by, Like I remember commenting

1219
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:35.039
on one of the Raiders posts,
or I think it was Antonio Piers posted

1220
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:39.840
it of him walking out of the
tunnel leading the team wearing black Air Forces.

1221
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.880
I was like, if he doesn't
get this job, like you should

1222
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:47.800
RYOT. They connect with the players
more, and they listen to them more.

1223
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.920
They play harder for a guy.
You have a guy like Dan Campbell

1224
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:55.159
at training camp telling you, hey, we're gonna be hitting every other day.

1225
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.079
But trust me, guys, all
I think about is you, guys,

1226
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.880
man, you gotta believe me.
Players will believe that rather than Matt

1227
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:08.680
Patricia pulling up on the quad with
a broken leg liked time like, that's

1228
01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.640
not something that resonates with the guys. They're gonna They're gonna listen to a

1229
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.399
guy that's been in the trenches.
It doesn't matter if you have one ass,

1230
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:16.399
cheek and three toes. I would
beat your raps. No, I'm

1231
01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:18.960
with you, Nick. Yeah.
One other thing I wanted to highlight too

1232
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:23.159
is these guys are young that are
coming into the locker room. These kids

1233
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:28.079
are way different in the social media
area era that you have to coach for.

1234
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:31.279
You know, the whole entire locker
rooms different. I remember the quotes

1235
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.359
from like Stafford in his locker room. You know he wasn't resonating with these

1236
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:39.000
younger guys. People have to change, and these coaches have changed with the

1237
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.680
times. We've seen a guy like
Bill Belichick retire, not get a job

1238
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:48.039
or is Bill so as the Falcons
was exactly and then Pete Carroll as well.

1239
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.159
You know, so the times are
changing in the NFL and they're obviously

1240
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:57.119
going younger and more ex players definitely
resonate with these guys. How many times

1241
01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:00.960
do we gotta teach you this lesson, old man, Like, these guys

1242
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.199
aren't gonna aren't gonna take that ship. They're not gonna take the the abusive

1243
01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:10.359
coach anymore, the the you know, the Bobby Knight as coach, the

1244
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.720
Bill Parcells as coach. Like they
are looking for guys like Dan Campbell.

1245
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:17.039
You're gonna take it. It's gonna
be from a guy who's been in your

1246
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.640
shoes. Yes, a guy who
can on the other side of it.

1247
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.760
And although I had this conversation with
GQ and it's like, yeah, different,

1248
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.560
different era of football two where like
they played a lot harsher conditions if

1249
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.680
you will, I know that,
don't. Don't that come off as soft

1250
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:31.960
at all, but like sometimes hard
to relate to that way. But they

1251
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.560
they've done it though, you know
what I'm saying, Hey, where did

1252
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:39.920
this today? I know it sucks, but it turns out teams have done

1253
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:44.000
that that' took part in one championships
at least like put themselves in a position

1254
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:46.760
to of the hiring cycle this year. Jim Harball, Dan Quinn, Dave

1255
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:50.680
Canals, Rod Mayo, Antonio Pears, Brian Callahan and Mike McDonald. Dan

1256
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:54.960
Quinn I'm sorry, Jim Harball for
a player, Drod Mayo for a player

1257
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.520
I don't know. No, Callahan
wasn't and Mike McDonald no. So there's

1258
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.520
three of them in there, and
I want you gave Antonio Pearce his due

1259
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:03.760
respect too. He earned that.
Yes, as much as like Dan Kimball,

1260
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.560
maybe turn the tie for people wanting
like relatable coaches or guys that can

1261
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:11.000
like I guess you know you guys
beat a long term because you can buy

1262
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.600
into them a little bit there.
Antonio Pierce earned every bit of that when

1263
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:17.600
he sets a franchise record of an
ass whoop and on the Chargers and escorted

1264
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:23.119
Brandon whatever fuck his faces Staley out
of his head coaching job. Antonio Pierce

1265
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:26.399
was deserving of that, and their
blue chip guy put his foot down on

1266
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.000
it too. Mike Max Crosby said, Hey, if we don't bring this

1267
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:30.119
guy back, yeah, I'm gone. Yeah, I don't want to be

1268
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.279
here. So it's what you need
when you have a guy like Dan Campbell

1269
01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:38.439
motivating you to play, who has
seen the great coaches, who has seen

1270
01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:42.119
the Bill Parcells, the Sean Payton's
the other guys go out there and win

1271
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:44.720
super Bowls. He's been a part
of a Super Bowl, and he's been

1272
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:46.079
a part of a team in Detroit
that didn't win a single football game.

1273
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.600
So he could tell you what those
guys on that team did that didn't work,

1274
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:53.920
and what the guys on the other
teams did that actually worked. And

1275
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:58.520
that is way more important than Matt
Patricia riding around in the squad going I

1276
01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:01.279
made the best player or I mean, the best play calling defensive football history.

1277
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.479
Like, shut up, man,
nobody cares about you. It's not

1278
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.920
about you. It's about Malcolm Butler
making the play. All I care about

1279
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.560
is you guys, man. So
I just love I love that they're getting

1280
01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:15.600
that run. I love that you've
got those guys out there that are They

1281
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:19.199
die for their players. They die
for these guys because they know where they're

1282
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:24.680
coming from. They know how shitty
it is to go into a a NFL

1283
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:28.560
season off of a grueling training camp, play the seventeen game season, and

1284
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:30.279
then try to make a playoff run. They know how you feel. They

1285
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.880
know how you feel when you're coming
off of week seventeen, Week eighteen and

1286
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.359
got to get ready for the playoffs. Yeah, they know you're not one

1287
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:40.880
hundred percent. They know you're banged
up, but they're there for you.

1288
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.239
It's it is a huge difference from
what we were seeing earlier, and you

1289
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:48.760
had the run of these genius you
know, play callers, and they're still

1290
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.960
you're still working those guys. Yeah, yeah, you're still making those Yeah.

1291
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:56.359
Well here's the other part of it
too, right. I don't think

1292
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.800
it may be changing the landscape.
Yes, but let me be honest with

1293
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:02.119
you, only one day Camp and
anyone that's ever had a prior relationship with

1294
01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.359
this guy, at least in the
national media circuit when they're having these interviews

1295
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:09.960
with him, oh damn man,
that's a guy. They always have a

1296
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:13.000
story. He's been able to break
down connect with them. And I don't

1297
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.920
remember who it was in the NFL
network, whatever Morning Shore they do,

1298
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:16.880
Good Morning Football is one of the
best on know wh I forgot that,

1299
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.960
but he had mentioned that's a guy
who could relate to every single person that

1300
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.359
roster, despite coming from a different
background, because able to break down and

1301
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:27.319
have that conversation human human. As
much as there may be a trend going

1302
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.199
on with former coaches turned I'm sorry, former players, cerain coaches, it

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01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.199
was only one Dan Camp when we
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1329
01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:39.800
and I agree to this. And
I think this is a guy that I

1330
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:45.079
think could be blue chip where it's
shown blue chip traits and I don't know

1331
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:47.600
if his current organization has a the
money to bring him back. And it's

1332
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:53.920
aj Espinoza Now Andrew Jared Esperosa from
The Buffalo Bill six foot six, two

1333
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:58.760
hundred and sixty Sam linebacker slash as
rusher. I've witnessed him do work here

1334
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:00.800
in Detroit, and he's have a
little bit of health issues. But the

1335
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.479
past two years spinning in limited action
because I don't I don't know if he's

1336
01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:08.479
the starter, let me check,
but six and a half sacks back to

1337
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:12.239
back years, would that be a
Brad Holmes guy? Yeah, yeah,

1338
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.479
so it sounds good. Six and
a half sacks and back to back years

1339
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:18.640
sounds pretty good. That is that
would be second on the team last year,

1340
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:25.800
and this as a reserve guys a
spot starter only started in the Jacksonville

1341
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.800
game, in which he did cash
in on two sacks in that situation,

1342
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:34.119
I am a everybody recommending aj Espinoza. I think that is a Brad Holmes

1343
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:38.239
Dan Cambell guy too, just from
whatever you see on the field, you

1344
01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:41.359
know, in a limited fashion or
a limited action he's got if he's eating

1345
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.159
that sounds like a guy. Brad
Holmes or Dan cambll would love a guy

1346
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.640
that bust his ass a little bit
of shiny gets a J. Spinoza,

1347
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.000
You are Detroit lion, and I'm
kidding, I can't go that far.

1348
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:54.520
Who'd rather have him er Van ginkle
him. Let me see they have him

1349
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.199
as a defensive lineman here on the
I've seen him play the linebacker position from

1350
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:00.479
two I's in there as a SAM. I'd rather have him. This guy

1351
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.680
you can move around and guy can
play multiple different positions. Two interceptions last

1352
01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:10.600
year too. Guy that can play
coverage, eight pass deflections, two receptions,

1353
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:14.560
six and a half sacks and ten
quarterback hits. Again, not even

1354
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.279
a starter. Yeah, it'd be
nice. That'd be nice. I would

1355
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:24.520
love to see. I would love
to see that happen. Give me somebody

1356
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:31.800
with something you can't have, like
five sacks being second on your team.

1357
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:36.319
Again, I could not have that
happen with what you have in Aiden Hutchinson,

1358
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.800
with where you're trying to go,
what you're trying to accomplish as a

1359
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:45.439
team. You need to get the
quarterback on the ground more. You need

1360
01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:50.000
more consistent output from other guys.
If he was like third on the team

1361
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:58.159
in sacks in like four games,
it's come on, I can't have Romeo

1362
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:02.000
a quar getting you two sacks being
one sack well, I can't even remember

1363
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:05.119
Charles Harris being a sack and a
half. Like, we need more production

1364
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:09.479
out of that position flat out,
and I do think Bill Williams is going

1365
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.039
to help that. And I think
I think Josh Pascale has a good year

1366
01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:15.479
next year. I think Alee McNeil, if he stays healthy, he'll be

1367
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.600
right around seven eight sacks next year. So we'll see. But having another

1368
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:24.439
bookend pass rushers is vital. And
again, if anybody that missed that,

1369
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.880
that's and it's actually Nick, I'm
going to you on this one because you're

1370
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.479
your numbers guy. By the numbers, by the numbers, ten QB hits,

1371
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:36.600
two interceptions and eight pass deflections and
fifteen games played in limited action because

1372
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:40.319
he was not the starter. How
you feeling about that? Yeah, I

1373
01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:44.039
would absolutely love this guy. I
loved him coming out of college when he

1374
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:46.800
was at Iowa. Epanessa, I
apologize, Yeah, aj Epinazza, I

1375
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:50.359
liked him a lot coming out of
college where he produced at Iowa as well.

1376
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:55.319
We know we love our Iowa guys
for this team. With Sam laparda,

1377
01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:59.119
Jack Campbell, we got two last
draft class. I would absolutely take

1378
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.199
a look at him. I'm down
to bring in a guy that maybe didn't

1379
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:06.039
get the snaps that he wanted in
Buffalo and plus they had such a stack

1380
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.680
like d Line in the past,
maybe where he wasn't able to get his

1381
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:14.359
spots like you guys like von Miller
getting brought in there. So I'm definitely

1382
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:24.279
down to take a look at a
j Appanosa. However, Epidermal Comics,

1383
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:26.920
Wiver Sports Chat, Shift God,
c J J might not be back.

1384
01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:31.039
What's the words that CJ will be
back? Uh, I don't know.

1385
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:34.000
I would I'm down from be back. By the way, it's not like

1386
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:38.039
a it was. Once I realized
when they had two safeties in the roster,

1387
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:40.319
it's like, okay, yeah,
probably bring him back, especially he

1388
01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:44.640
was down with doing the rotational situation, down the clown you down to clown

1389
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:47.720
brother. Why are you making a
face? Chris? Just it's interesting that

1390
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:54.000
she said you're down to bring him
back open handedly ruined the locker room single

1391
01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:57.479
handedly room. I didn't say that. I said it could lead to that.

1392
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:00.439
And by the way, after I
said that, he chased Doom.

1393
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:04.239
I think I think, partly obviously
because I said that, he's like,

1394
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:06.800
Okay, I'm gonna show you type
of thing. But also maybe you know,

1395
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:11.399
maybe he'll realize that sometimes you need
to get called out, you need

1396
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:15.199
to hear if you look yourself in
the mirror, like am I you heard

1397
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:18.000
it here first? Hey, I
am not your savior. I'm not your

1398
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.000
savior. I got you, I
got a troll comment. But whatever,

1399
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:27.319
hutch is not this elite pass rusher
from somebody in the chat. Yeah.

1400
01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:32.359
Yeah, But I honestly think hutch
is gonna take a huge step going into

1401
01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:36.319
year three, especially we've talked a
lot about Terrell Williams today in the defensive

1402
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:40.399
Coach. I know you said it
would probably help out some guys that were

1403
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:44.560
maybe more middling, like a guy
like Pascal, guy like Ali McNeil,

1404
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:48.279
But I honestly think it will help
out Aiden Hutchinson significantly. And we know

1405
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:50.640
how many pressures he had this year, so some of those are going to

1406
01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:55.720
turn into sacks. Yeah. I
don't think he needs a new coach to

1407
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:59.159
like tweak and make things better.
I think what he needs to help him

1408
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:02.079
the most is the other around him
to step up to make sure that he's

1409
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:05.680
not getting double teamed and shipped every
play. To have a guy that can

1410
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:10.319
beat one on once on the other
side, so it makes it easier and

1411
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:14.760
teams can't just only focus their schemes
on him. I think that's the biggest

1412
01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:17.720
thing that Aiden Hutchinson needs where he's
gonna take the jump from eleven and a

1413
01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:24.199
half to fourteen fifteen sixteen is having
another guy out there that has to that

1414
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:28.840
other teams have to worry about.
Wilversports chat, I see comment from Steve

1415
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:32.560
Wilds McNeil will get eight plus X. I agree on his Instagram page already

1416
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.319
he's pulsing the workouts again. Yeah, and usually don't see that stuff coming

1417
01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:41.199
till summertime. Leaves already and that's
Hey, that's one of the reasons they

1418
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:45.039
draft him. That is the I
guess framework or standard of a player the

1419
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:46.920
Detroit Lions want to acquire, Andlee
McNeil is that. And I can see

1420
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:48.760
if he plays, if he's healthy
the rest of the season, I can

1421
01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:51.319
see him having an eight plus X. I think he proved himself as a

1422
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:58.079
interior pass rusher. And again for
me, I'm not again it's a similar

1423
01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:00.479
thing you're saying. I don't think
Hutchinson is going to get tweaked you often

1424
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:02.920
or too much. I think obviously
he showcased what he can be, what

1425
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:06.439
he does, it's gonna be the
guys around him. That I think need

1426
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:12.039
the tune up. And for me, the domain name is Broddick Martin because

1427
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:16.319
because we're sitting here talking about wanting
a BLOCKI defensive tackle where we're falling in

1428
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.760
love with to and Andre Sweat,
we have a guy with that's similar build

1429
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:21.800
on the squad right now. It's
just he needs to be molded. That's

1430
01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:26.920
that's Terrell Williams. Like Wheelhouse,
we watched a guy like I can see

1431
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:30.760
her comfortably and say it's also partly
because it can only name you probably two

1432
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:31.760
or three of these guys in the
first place. I want to talk about

1433
01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:35.520
linebackers. Coach that Kelvin Shepherd's probably
top five, top three linebacker coach in

1434
01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:42.600
the league. Jay Campbell, who's
interviewed for the position, acquired a guy

1435
01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:46.319
called him the best. I'm expecting
bumps from natural bumps too, from just

1436
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:53.880
you know, going to the bathroom
with your boys, but also kidding I

1437
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.319
want it. But Brodict Martin is
the piece. I feel like he's been

1438
01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.680
brought into work with the interior defensive
line and you just on it earlier too,

1439
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:02.159
and he goes beyond that too.
You talked about Josh Bescal, guy

1440
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.800
still plays the interior. I think
that's the way he works best with.

1441
01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:08.800
I guess you have the cliff everyone
in his resume too, Cameron Wake.

1442
01:34:09.439 --> 01:34:13.279
Maybe he does help much. I
think he's gonna help. I think he's

1443
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:15.960
gonna help out everybody. And that's
what we need most. Is like I

1444
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.439
said, the other guys you know, no, no, Will Ferrell like

1445
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:23.119
you need the other guys to take
a volt. We can't have what you

1446
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.760
guys said man Romeo a'quara with one
sack, Yeah, Charles Harris with the

1447
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.119
sack and the half Julian o'quaro with
two sacks. Those can't be the guys

1448
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:34.600
that are supposed to be rotating,
rotating in and getting plays. You need

1449
01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:43.760
to make some things happen. The
Lions need a faster Linebackers. Expeditiously says

1450
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:48.399
truth over emotions. Listen, I
think I think Anzo did his fucking thing

1451
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.720
this year. I'm not taking anything
away from Alexis alone. I'm finally him

1452
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:56.520
being sorry returning next year as I
think it's Jack Campbell, who, by

1453
01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:59.560
the way, has that speed.
He has the high ras score we went

1454
01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.640
over last year, the raw athletics
score. It's up there with Brian branch

1455
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:08.000
at the safety position. It's just
him getting to know the game a little

1456
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:10.520
bit more, and I think that's
gonna come with the sophomore season. You

1457
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:13.239
always hear these players talk about it. I mean, I've had conversations with

1458
01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:15.039
guys, Malcolm Rodriguez being one of
them, is like, the speed of

1459
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:17.720
the game is the hardest part to
adjust to. You hear it almost in

1460
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:20.279
every sport. I know. It
translates to basketball too, is adjusting to

1461
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.920
the speed of the game at the
pro level. I think that's what you're

1462
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:27.399
gonna see out of the sophomore season
for Jack Campbell. I don't think you

1463
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.439
need faster guys per se. I
think they have that. It's just he

1464
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.359
has to adjust to the level of
play, speed to play. And think

1465
01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:39.600
it's coming this year. Luther Ellis, Hell yeah, j Ellis, Joe

1466
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:43.600
Ellis, I would love for that
to be the guy too for two one

1467
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.680
three. So you tell us money, we need Dirty Mic and the boys

1468
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:48.399
to go crazy. I want a
soup kitchen in that backfield, like you

1469
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.840
gotta go out there and make some
things happen, Like thanks for the fuck

1470
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:56.479
shack, Dirty Mic and the boys. That's what I want. Opposing quarterbacks

1471
01:35:56.520 --> 01:36:00.000
to be feeling some dirty mic and
the boys breathing down their next Yeah,

1472
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:05.119
we need consistent pressure from multiple sources
in that backfield. I want to make

1473
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:08.960
this comment real quick too, because
I do love Van Geekle as a prospect

1474
01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:12.439
becoming a Detroit Lion, and he's
not prospect in the league. By about

1475
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.439
that guy that will require. The
one that makes me nervous about that one

1476
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.279
is I feel like he may outprice
himself because he his Tamba guys being Geekle.

1477
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:24.039
Yeah, talking about like limited limited
snaps showcasing like high inability. He

1478
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:27.119
showed that, So I don't know
if he is gonna be looked at as

1479
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:30.039
a depth guy in any situation he
goes to. I know he was that

1480
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.239
in Miami literally, and part of
that's because Jaden Phillips is a monster.

1481
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:38.359
But like he showed what he showcased
in limited Snaps, I feel like he's

1482
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:41.079
gonna go somewhere to be like a
guy and rather than a depth guy,

1483
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.560
Yeah, well he gonna be a
a guy here too. I don't know

1484
01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:46.680
if you can command a crazy contract. I'm cool with signing a guy.

1485
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:51.760
I'm cool with signing multiple guys like
I fell in love with DJ Reader in

1486
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:57.199
the prospect of what he can be
for this team if Broderick Martin isn't ready

1487
01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:00.800
to go and be that same piece. But that that's what that's what I

1488
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:02.800
want. I want, Like I
said, I want a guy that eats

1489
01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:05.079
double teams, a guy that eats
blockers. I want to eat it,

1490
01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:09.479
that eats it for lunch in between
Alie McNeil and Aiden Hudgerson. To open

1491
01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:14.680
those guys up to one on one
matchups and to have them produce more because

1492
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:17.199
they're not getting double team to every
snap. Yeah. So for the numbers,

1493
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:20.239
guys like Nick with only eleven starts
the back half start and the rest

1494
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:25.199
of the season because Phillips got hurt. Six sacks from Van Geegle, eight

1495
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:30.680
tackles for lost, nineteen quarterback hits, one interception that one inception did come

1496
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:34.600
back for a touchdown, and eight
pass deflections. Be size, How big

1497
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:39.560
is he? Van Geegle is six
foot four, two hundred and forty two

1498
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.960
pounds and he is the uglier version
of alex As the money. For damn

1499
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:47.119
sure, that is one ugly motherfucker. No offense than I hope I come

1500
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.880
to love you for who you are
when we sign you as a Detroit Lion.

1501
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:53.520
He's twenty eight years old actually,
so maybe a little bit cheaper than

1502
01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:58.319
we're thinking. I'm here for that
all day. His position on Pro Football

1503
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:01.119
Reference outside linebacker. I mean that
fits the Sam spot. I just think

1504
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.479
you might cost a little bit much, but I want him. Don't get

1505
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:06.199
me wrong. That's the only thing
I can see. Last thing where we

1506
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:10.279
don't get I won't, I won't
you. I call you Chris Hampson.

1507
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:15.439
Listen, we got two more weeks
and the three thirteen three one three day.

1508
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:17.640
I came here looking for some booty. I mean, something goods happening

1509
01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:23.239
for us. Three thirteen raised you
open spinning. We're getting a vank g

1510
01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:27.279
Eagle. We're getting how you said
the last name Espinoza, Espinosa, Espinosa.

1511
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:32.800
And who's the other guy they had
on their Autrey are I feel like

1512
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:38.039
if you had to make a bet
and the guy that's gonna be come a

1513
01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:42.880
Detroy line for damn sure, who
would it be? Free agency wise?

1514
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:49.239
Not drafted Graham Glasgow loophole. All
right, the guy that didn't play the

1515
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:58.039
line man Evan Brown. I took. Let him know when we get back.

1516
01:38:58.279 --> 01:38:59.880
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1533
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:25.800
a mill per year. I'm looking
at Vank. He goes career earnings,

1534
01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:28.720
there's a total seven million. He's
an undrafted or no, he was drafted

1535
01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:34.159
in twenty nineteen and then oh he
resigned with the Dolphins. His career earnings

1536
01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:38.439
in the last seven million. And
I watched him on Hard Knocks this past

1537
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:40.880
season. He has like a like
three kids, two kids. I feel

1538
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:43.920
you want to get paid, but
maybe maybe that five to six to him

1539
01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:46.279
is a lot because he's only made
seven total. I would love for ranking

1540
01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:49.399
go to come and become a Detur
Lion. Thank that Van Gank, That

1541
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:53.680
Van baby. That's all I'm saying. You feel me. I'm trying to

1542
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:57.960
think of other outside linebackers Detroit Lions
acquired within the Brad Holmes regime and what

1543
01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:00.119
type of deals, what type of
numbers had before him? We get ansl

1544
01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:06.960
Azo Angelo's last year in the audience. Here, will you look up Angel's

1545
01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:12.399
contract history from when he first signed
the Lions. Yeah, yeah, and

1546
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:15.199
I'm gonna look up his production.
I gotta close a bunch of tabs previous

1547
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:19.520
season and this. He's obviously a
middle linebackers. This is a little bit

1548
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:24.279
different. I guess he's all He's
on here as an outside linebacker. In

1549
01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:29.640
the New Orleans year, he had
twenty two solo tackles, nineteen assists,

1550
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:36.199
three TFLs, zero QB hits one
two, three, four, five,

1551
01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:42.079
six, seven, eight starts nine
starts. He started the last game of

1552
01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:45.680
the year. I got the spending
real zero six. Oh, there we

1553
01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:49.359
go, and Angeloney was signed for
it had to be something low. I

1554
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:54.880
feel it almost might have been like
two million. And that's half the reason

1555
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:57.680
he came here. That in ag
Yeah, my own crashing too. Right

1556
01:41:57.720 --> 01:42:03.560
now, what's going on? And
uh and hey, did you see at

1557
01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:09.000
and T's offering five bucks five dollars
get certificates to the people that got affected

1558
01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:14.560
by the uh, the outage,
Like, I know you couldn't call or

1559
01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:17.399
text anybody for multiple days, but
we'll give you five bucks for it,

1560
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:21.880
five dollars, five dollars. So
did he get resigned? He got resigned

1561
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:26.399
the twenty two offseason, right,
Oh wow? He signed for one point

1562
01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:31.239
seven and then twenty two was two
point two, so three three million dollars.

1563
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.199
I guess if Van's not getting offered
a bag somewhere you could offer him,

1564
01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:39.159
he's getting all he's getting more than
one to two, ten or twelve.

1565
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:42.880
He'll get more than that, for
sure, honestly, fucking do it?

1566
01:42:43.479 --> 01:42:49.119
Why not? I know Dion want
that Sam Spot. I I wanted

1567
01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:51.319
that DT, but maybe Broaderick is
going to be it. I gotta film

1568
01:42:51.319 --> 01:42:57.760
and Broddick might might fulfill that fantasy
for me. Pause, but Latroyal Williams

1569
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:00.680
in house having to hear Dan Kimills
be the way I might be leaning off

1570
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:03.000
the one. I mean, I
still think we should get one for Roto

1571
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:04.680
in depth, like they said.
I think they will do that. I

1572
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:09.119
guess we look like a DJ reader. But I'm not gonna keep salvating over

1573
01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:11.720
these guys in the open market when
I know why. I want to have

1574
01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:17.039
faith at least and troll Williams making
a fucking monster out of broadery. I

1575
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:21.239
think Williams is going to definitely improve
these guys, But again, I think

1576
01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:28.079
you can always improve externally by bringing
in more talent, Like there's nothing wrong

1577
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:32.520
with bringing in more talented guys.
Yeah. Sorry, I'm just trying.

1578
01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:35.319
This's probably stuff I should be doing
before the show. But you guys are

1579
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:39.319
getting good names, and I'm trying
to see, like how that correlates to

1580
01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:41.439
what we've done in the past.
We got a couple of things we do

1581
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:46.359
spinning Steve, why not making a
move for the deadline? Who said that?

1582
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:53.079
I read it somewhere from who let
me find it for you? He

1583
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:55.760
wrote it down before you went to
bed. No, I read it that

1584
01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.159
they may be patient staying pat the
line the deadline. I mean, that's

1585
01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:05.119
definitely been around. I definitely saw
er our boy Ryan Hannah that came on

1586
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:10.920
Friday. He had a thing come
out with Max Boltman from the Athletic Apod

1587
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:15.359
for the Winged Wheel. He talked
about it could be internal moves that these

1588
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:23.000
guys make bringing up a guy like
Evanson or Berger, And I'm just that's

1589
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:25.800
what I've heard. It wasn't.
Yeah, quote Brada, this is from

1590
01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:29.920
Detroit Free Press today, Helen Saint
James. Detroit Reverings may not make a

1591
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:34.560
huge splash at trade deadline. You
want to read it, Yeah, from

1592
01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:38.800
scoring first to getting them across the
finish line. Patrick Kane has the Detroit

1593
01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:42.880
Rebens on the road to the playoffs
ahead of Tuesday's matchup against the Washington Capitals.

1594
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:45.680
In a five game winning streak.
Kane on an eight game point streak

1595
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:48.439
a little more than a week out
from March eighth NHL trade deadline. Kane

1596
01:44:48.520 --> 01:44:55.319
is a big reason why general manager
Steve Geiserman may stay his hand yiser Men

1597
01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:59.439
already added a game change in November
when he signed Kane in just a few

1598
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:01.920
months after they're trading for Alex to
break it in the end. Those guys

1599
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:06.039
find a way, coach Line said
after Sunday's game. They're the ones on

1600
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:09.520
the score sheet, found a way
to get us two points. The fourth

1601
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:12.279
line got us the first goal,
and then to break in a Cane took

1602
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:15.159
it to the finish line. What
my reading? No, Well, Chris

1603
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:19.439
Chris l reader? No, Kidd's
Chris dude. I would have killed that

1604
01:45:19.600 --> 01:45:29.840
read. You're doing a good job. Would you be pissed, I'm not

1605
01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:32.439
wouldn't be pissed, No, I
would be mildly upset. Yeah. Is

1606
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.319
some of the last year's trade land
for the detro lianceview. That's what I

1607
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:41.600
was gonna ask which is more egregious, not standing pat Lions Lions, That's

1608
01:45:41.640 --> 01:45:44.159
what I was still. Yeah,
and by the way, Brad Holmes was

1609
01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:53.000
trying to make moves because contenders really
this year until move away from are they

1610
01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:58.319
what? But are they move away
from it? I mean, I ain't

1611
01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.399
think it happened in the NHL playoffs
that your playoffs are the most batshit crazy

1612
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:05.479
playoffs all the Yeah, but they're
not. I don't think they're move away

1613
01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:09.399
from being serious Cup contenders, though
I would like to see them grab a

1614
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:13.560
guy like Chickering or Chris Tanna for
sure at the trade deadline, you know

1615
01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:15.520
how I say, And I don't
think this is the same in hockey,

1616
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.239
but you guys can verify for me
to do that. Hockey, Yeah right,

1617
01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:23.319
No, But seriously, in the
NBA, I obviously didn't like the

1618
01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:25.840
Ivy pick for a reason as a
fit. I think it's trum his talent.

1619
01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:33.239
I bring up the Luka doncs guts, Luca don Kyrie Irving, you

1620
01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:36.800
hate Ivy's guts, No, he
loves it. After Ivy choked my one

1621
01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:42.279
uh that one game. Either way, you said he was batman Luca and

1622
01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:54.000
like public apologize k cut in for
the district. I apologize for not slobbering

1623
01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:58.239
on Cad with when while we have
eight wins here. Yeah, I apologize

1624
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:00.640
for nothing, Cad. I think
you're great player. I have your jersey

1625
01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.319
signed and hung in my apartment.
I'm not a kid hater. I need

1626
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:10.239
more wins. Audio. All right, kid, you want piece? Did

1627
01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:13.760
say trader? You took away at
Batman bad? Just just apologize, kid,

1628
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:15.760
you are Batman. Here we go, we go. That's all you

1629
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:21.279
guys say. Sorry, don't tell
me what to do, all right,

1630
01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:26.479
But seriously, Luca and Kyrie don't
like to fit, Lebron and the Russell

1631
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:29.960
didn't like to fit. Is that
the same win hockey? Like? Can

1632
01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:31.479
we grab a guy that's super talented? And I don't believe it is.

1633
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:35.560
I think there's a lot of different
fits to put in a hot you have

1634
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.840
guys, Yeah, I mean,
will they not be a fit on this

1635
01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.399
line? Maybe not, But then
and the next line they'll look pretty good.

1636
01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:43.520
You know, you got four lines, so they're gonna be a fit

1637
01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:46.039
somewhere in the lineup. And and
the guys we're looking for are not not

1638
01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:49.840
fitting guys like you're looking for a
top fourd man and that fits on any

1639
01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:54.399
team in the NF in the NHL. And I think Chris Tnnev would be

1640
01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:58.600
great because he is a top four
defensive guy on your team. He's a

1641
01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:02.880
big, angry AGGRESSI some dude who
will put pause on people. Andy's a

1642
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.600
right handed shot, so I think
he would be a perfect fit for the

1643
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:12.640
Red Wings. Nick is a chemistry
matter, just same in hockey versus basketball.

1644
01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:16.079
I mean I think it does.
I mean just from the outside looking

1645
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:20.039
in. I mean I'm not I've
never played on a hockey team in my

1646
01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:24.319
life, I'll fully admit, but
I believe it. I mean, how

1647
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.800
can it not when it's such a
timing sport. You know, we've seen

1648
01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:31.039
it when it take time with Kine
on those like back door type passes that

1649
01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:33.920
we still have seen our guys just
miss and not be there because they're not

1650
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:38.760
on the same page. I one
hundred percent believe it's a chemistry sport.

1651
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.680
But if you have the talent,
the guys are going to figure it out.

1652
01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:45.239
Yeah, I mean, chemistry definitely
matters in hockey. It's yeah,

1653
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:49.479
but it's not like bringing in a
guy one guy to bolster your team.

1654
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:54.560
Isn't going to ruin the chemistry of
your team. So you think you're still

1655
01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:57.159
going for it, I do something
kind of pissed off it. If you

1656
01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:02.119
sound like you'd be pissed they don't
make the move, I mean, yeah,

1657
01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:06.279
you want, you fucking want one. I just think they're in a

1658
01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:10.640
good position to make that move,
and maybe they don't. And if they

1659
01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:13.000
don't, I mean, I'm not
too mad. I trust in Steve Iisman

1660
01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:15.960
and what he's gonna do, but
I'd like to see them at a top

1661
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:20.119
four defenseman to this lineuppa Helen st. James of The Show, because I

1662
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:24.960
think take it back, I think
they I think they have an extremely good

1663
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:29.359
chance of winning at least one playoff
series, so I think a top four

1664
01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:32.000
defenseman will solidify that. And speaking
of that playoff series, we got a

1665
01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:38.119
big game to night against the Capitals
for trying. They got a game in

1666
01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:42.960
hand on us. I mean,
there's a big one tonight. First thoughts

1667
01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.960
on the game can't go to overtime
that that's my first thought is you need

1668
01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:48.159
to you need to win this in
regulation. You can't let them get that

1669
01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:53.359
extra little cheeky point because they do
have like two games in hand or something

1670
01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:56.840
like that. So you can't allow
them to to sneak a point out of

1671
01:49:56.880 --> 01:49:59.039
there. You need to go out
there. You need to win this in

1672
01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:02.960
overtime. You're better to than them. And put rets musin on Ovechkin when

1673
01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:06.880
he's on the ice and give him
make his life out the old one and

1674
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:11.600
watch out for him in the fucking
slot like that's what he does. Just

1675
01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.920
put somebody on PK. Just put
him in a Vekin slot so he can't

1676
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:16.640
just sit there and load up because
that's what he does. So uh,

1677
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.319
Cider, No, no, not
sider, somebody. I want to see

1678
01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:27.760
him bombs to the angle. But
I I expect them to win. I

1679
01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:30.880
expect this to be They're coming off
of a high Lions and goal Lions and

1680
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:34.239
net right, Yeah, so yeah, I expect them to get this done.

1681
01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:39.680
Yeah. First look at the odds
here, Red Wings are minus one

1682
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:43.600
seventy six in this one. So
I right, No, we're at home.

1683
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:47.279
We're back at LCA after the quick
to turnaround from Sunday. But yeah,

1684
01:50:47.359 --> 01:50:50.760
they played like they played horrible for
the first like two periods of that

1685
01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:54.880
game Sunday, So I do expect
them to carry some of the momentum going

1686
01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.640
in. It's a night and I'm
looking forward to watching it. It's kind

1687
01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:00.399
of a looky, sneaky big night. And do you try sports here,

1688
01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:05.279
especially with especially with the Pistons coming
off what they went through last game too.

1689
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:10.520
Nothing Pistons, nothing the Pistons will
do will make it a big bro.

1690
01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:15.920
We can speak yeah, cause may
just want to come in real quick.

1691
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:20.239
This team about it sneaky big.
It's like a grower and not a

1692
01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:24.920
showers. Snookie Johnson, speaking of
that, says, this team doesn't need

1693
01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:28.840
sneaky Big. This team doesn't need
to make a splash deadline, get Costing

1694
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.439
out of town and bring up Evanson
and Bergen. I don't like getting Costing

1695
01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:34.600
out of town. I'd rather get
haul out of town. I think we

1696
01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:38.560
need somebody out there that can fight, especially when you get to the playoffs.

1697
01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:43.079
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all right, so dropping at seven
before you watch Revelings go over there,

1725
01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:19.039
smash the leg buttons, I speaks, we're cooking up the parlay. Shout

1726
01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:20.720
out the G, B, D, N, C, E and T

1727
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.359
for his contribution, he says,
wings the money line over five and a

1728
01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:29.880
half Larkin goal Kate Cunning on twenty
five plus as a plus, I'm running

1729
01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:31.079
with it, fuck it for the
hell of it. But we're also gonna

1730
01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:35.960
build a basketball one right now too. Shout out my g shout to everybody

1731
01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:42.359
in the chat. Yes, who
everyone, everyone's milsack. We're also cooking

1732
01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:45.119
a parlay right now, all right, I cook this one up this morning.

1733
01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:47.399
I was strictly based on it.
I had a sneaky good vibe on

1734
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:50.800
this one, sneaky big vibes.
Now you're not selling it, sneaky good

1735
01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:55.279
vibe, sneak, I'm already sketched. It's well that I was the same

1736
01:54:55.399 --> 01:54:58.760
vibe. Yes, he's already out
on it. Chris, tell me know

1737
01:54:58.760 --> 01:55:02.319
what you think, Speno, Let's
make some cash. Twenty points a little

1738
01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:06.520
passive compared to that twenty five like
it ivy ten. That kind of scares

1739
01:55:06.560 --> 01:55:12.640
me because Monty Williams. But Duran
ten, Fetcini ten and during eight boards,

1740
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:16.319
let's go we locking it in.
I locked it in K twenty IV

1741
01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:26.279
ten during ten Fetucini ten during eight
boards ivy ten, Duran ten. Do

1742
01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:29.920
hear during tent there? Yep,
Fettuccini as well? Can we get Duran

1743
01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:31.960
ten boards? I did eight boards, A little passive on it, but

1744
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:38.359
there's a thirty percent. He's good
for it. Yeah, he's more good

1745
01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:42.119
for boards at points I switched us
eight points, ten boards, Okay,

1746
01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:44.600
Chris, last time I was on
a back to back, I think this

1747
01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:47.079
is where I was with it.
I think he only had eight or nine

1748
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:50.880
boards, So that's where I was
with that one little passive on it.

1749
01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:58.439
Look at his recent game walk,
he's it's boards over point yo. How

1750
01:55:58.479 --> 01:56:05.840
about Fetuccini sneaky good? Finish it
like he's sneaky big? How about ten

1751
01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:10.279
points on him? I got down
on him already, I think yeah in

1752
01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:14.600
the alright, ten for Silkie Johnson
player hated of the year. Say his

1753
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:23.720
name correct with that, Luigi Mustache
fan techy six assists before I think you're

1754
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:29.439
getting to forest sounds good for what
do you say? He's gonna say you're

1755
01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:31.479
too greedy? Nick? Send a
link if you don't mind for yours.

1756
01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:38.520
All right, all right, all
right, I'm cooking with that one so

1757
01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:43.600
far a d n C. Send
yours in the send your link to please

1758
01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:50.800
on X. Got Kate Kennedy in
twenty and a half over points points,

1759
01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:57.640
Durrington boards ten points and Kate forsys
And should I grab anything from the Chicago

1760
01:56:57.760 --> 01:57:02.960
side. Bosch always kills us exactly
healthy. No, he's off of the

1761
01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:09.560
season smashed the points. Who are
Kobe White, Kobe White, DeMar deroz

1762
01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.760
In one of those two? Kobe's
twenty two and a half. Oh,

1763
01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:15.119
Damar is at twenty three and a
half. Tomorrow, I'm gonna take fifteen

1764
01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:19.039
to fifteen. It's always the veteran. How's that? Okay? Red Wings,

1765
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:23.439
anyone standing out to you tonight?
Spend mo? I have one?

1766
01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:26.399
Personally, it's to brink it.
It's to brink it. He's been hot

1767
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:29.680
and we know he's streaky. It's
Wings money line and to break it to

1768
01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:32.319
get one. I like it a
little passive. Andrew copp Gold for some

1769
01:57:32.479 --> 01:57:38.000
reason. Oh the odds on that
are probably for some reason, feeling and

1770
01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.239
Andrew copp gole tonight. How about
two plus shots for our boy to brink

1771
01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:44.520
it tonight? Yes, for sure? Shot go three. It's three,

1772
01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:46.760
just to say two two to minus
three thirty five. And added to this

1773
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:53.680
Parlay Caine two shots. Sure.
How do you feel about that? Nikki?

1774
01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:57.439
I like Kane two shots? Kane
two shots? Yeah, I do

1775
01:57:57.600 --> 01:58:00.239
think to brink it score three.
That's my lock for the chat here.

1776
01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:04.399
I'm not sure I need I don't
know, yeh, maybe all right?

1777
01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:11.520
Confidence level in the Wings picking up
this big win. Thy'll spend mo eight

1778
01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:15.359
and a half. Whoa damn?
I like it. Yeah, I've been

1779
01:58:15.439 --> 01:58:19.119
kind of calling it on the Wings
lately, at least for the overtime goals.

1780
01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:25.439
Ship's just like and maybe I'm being
pessimists right now, shits is too

1781
01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:31.800
good to be Truemantha goals that Amantha
goal, revenge goal. How about Manta

1782
01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:35.439
shots? I think Mantha gets a
tipping. I don't know if it's a

1783
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:42.640
shot, so that doesn't count as
a shot. Nick, you bet sche

1784
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:46.720
mesk says Raymond scores calling out Raymond. I do like that. I could

1785
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:51.720
see it all right, But that'll
do it for today. Before you go

1786
01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:55.760
watch the Reveings game, go over
to spend Over. Rex speaks, smash

1787
01:58:55.840 --> 01:59:00.279
the like button. I appreciate that. Subscribe every looks two shots, kah.

1788
01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:04.800
Sure that'll do it for us today, for easy, for Nick,

1789
01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:09.680
for Chris, I'm Spencer. Let's
go fucking red Wings. We'll see guys

1790
01:59:09.680 --> 01:59:19.520
tomorrow. Let me do anymore.
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