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Thank you for listening to Pictures Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights,

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the show about the government, policy
and human rights. Welcome back to Policy

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and Rights here in Depictions of Media
Radio. I'm your host Michael Cloggs,

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and we're gonna go back to Gaza
again. And because there's some series updates,

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things that need to be talked about
with this, as we know,

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the the I C CG, I
C J and the Hague. The judges

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first ruling as part of the controversial
case brought by South Africa accusing Israel of

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genocide. The court's ruling on genocide
is likely to take quite some time,

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but this is what the court did
come up with. They did not order

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Israel to halt its military campaign,
but it did recognize this situation in Gaza

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as being astrophic and as serious risk
of deteriorating further. As a result,

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they made several demands in line with
what South Africa was actually looking for.

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The The court ruled Israel should do
everything in its power to avoid killing Palestinians,

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causing uh, causing them serious about
a harm or mental harm, creating

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an intolerable living conditions in Gaza,
or deliberately preventing Palestinian births. And here's

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here's the the the really big thing
is while the i c J rulings are

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binding, there are there is no
real enforcement in which key what that really

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means is that Israel can actually just
literally ignore it. They can just continue

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with business as they have been doing
it and the military actions as they have

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been doing and ignore any and all
rulings that come up with by the United

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Nations or the ICJ. With that
being said, and there are some other

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series concerns that there are members of
the under group of the agency that provides

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a to Palestinian refugees that they took
part in the October seventh, twenty twenty

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three attacks by the Hamas. The
United Nations of course, is investigating this

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situation there and they are promising to
come up with with answers and those involved

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they're suspected to be involved from it
is our understanding that they have been removed

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from their their jobs and they will
be continued to to be questioned about their

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involvement. And along with that,
even though they've been removed from their jobs,

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that they are still held accountable for
their actions. UH with anra as

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w for those of you who who
aren't exactly understanding what ANRA actually is.

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It is a un organization that has
been providing health care, education, a

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lot of a lot of things to
the Palestinians, especially in Gaza in other

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areas, to you know, to
meet h humanitarian needs. And when October

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seventh happened, and of course the
Israeli answer to the October seventh attacks that

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the humanitarian efforts were cut off and
I don't want to say suspended, they

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were cut off as supply roots and
everything. We were actually cut off.

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And as a result of VAT,
they haven't been able to actually do their

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work on the scale that they were
doing in the Palestine. In Palestine.

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So there, let's move went back
to Canada and there is a bill and

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it's kind of a hot spot on
because it involves the carbon tax on farm

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fuels and it is expected to come
back to the House of Commons and be

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debated further as it will be coming
back from the the Senate, and they're

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trying to they're they're hoping to get
an exemption to the carbon taxes that have

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been issued on the fuels and everything
that have been put into the carbon tax.

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So it is the bill C three
and there's a lot of debate.

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So there's a couple a clip in
there where the Seapac Press actually got to

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ask a couple of members what they
thought could actually happen with that. And

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we're gonna hear, of course from
the UN Security Council as they have come

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to some answers around the Palestinian question
and more or less what it boils down

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to, and you're gonna hear this
from the press floor also that it boils

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down to Israeli and the Palestinians coming
to some sort of agreement. They are

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going to have to sit down and
talk and figure things out and figure out

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what's going to be acceptable to everyone. There's that's what the bottom line actually

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is going to be, is what
is going to be acceptable and what kind

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of agreements are they going to work
out, because that's at the end of

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all the fighting, you're still going
to have to come up with some sort

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of policy to deal with the differences. So why don't we listen to how

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things unfolded in We'll start with some
of the questions they were They clip with

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the questions they were asked of conservatives
as a discuss carbon tax carb out to

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bill ahead of Parliament. It is
expected to return or comes back to the

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House of Commons Monday. What are
you hoping happens? I hope that rational

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debate occurs, and I hope that
the House sticks with what it had in

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the first when it when it was
first introduced in the House. So I

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hope the NDP of Hole's firm,
but I'm not. I'm not certain they

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will look back at the House of
Comments to make I wonder if you could

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just stop and talk a minute about
what you're anticipating might happen or not with

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them. That's a great question.
We'll have to see, uh, what

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the other parties are playing on.
My estimation is is that the Block and

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the NDP and the Green Party will
continue to support it. It's pretty rare

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that a private member's bill get sent
back from the Senate. There's just a

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few times in the last ten years
or more that that's actually happened. So

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we'll see how it goes. What
are Canadians priorities right now going into this

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sitting? What are the Canadians What
are Canadians priorities? Well, I think

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Canadians priorities is obviously inside their household
and it's the cost of living. It's

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the cost of their mortgage, it's
the cost of their car payment if they

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have one, it's the cost of
their bills. And I mean, if

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you think about it, now here
we are at the end of January,

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there's going to be a big heating
bill come likely in February for January,

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so they're thinking about that, and
they're likely still thinking about paying for Christmas.

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So it's a lot on Canadians playtright
now, and it doesn't matter if

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you're you know, a family of
four or you're a retired at home in

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a city or a small town.
It's very expensive delivery. Now, the

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back to your building, the service
time to accept the amendments the Senate made

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to it. No, that's another
procedural thing everybody would be interested in.

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And so there's an opportunity for the
I guess you'd call it the author of

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the private member's bill, to reject
those amendments. And so I did that

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last week or two weeks ago and
filed it. So when it's brought up

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tomorrow for debate first thing in the
morning, it'll be like it was two

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years ago in its original form.
Okay, thanks the uns Could Council stakeout.

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Good morning, everybody. The Security
Council held on January the thirty is

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twenty twenty four closed consultation Consultation end
of the agenda item Middle East, including

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the Palestinian Question. The Security Council
members welcome the appointment of Missus secret Kag,

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a senior humanitarian and reconstruction coordinator for
Gaza. Persuant to its Resolution twenty

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seven twenty. The Security Council members
received their first briefing and urged all parties

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to engage with Missus Kagg to facilitate
the implementation of their mandate as reflected in

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Resolution twenty seven twenty. The Security
Council Members in this regard expressed their concern

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regarding the dire and rapidly deteriorating humanitarian
situation in the Gaza Strip, and they

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emphasized the urgent need to expand the
flow of HUMANITAI and assistant to civilians in

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Gaza. Thank you, okay.
Comments in questions from the United Nations pressure

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exactly all right, A good afternoon, um. The Secretary General will meet

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with thirty five member States as well
as the European Union this afternoon to discuss

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the Relief and Works Agency ANHA.
We expect the Secretary General to brief the

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Member States on the actions being taken
to deal with the allegations regarding some unaw

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staff and he will of course listen
to their concerns. The Secretary of General

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will again underscore the importance of the
humanitarian work that does every day in Gaza

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and in the region. You just
heard from Sigur kagh Or, your senior

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humanitarian reconstruction coordinator for Gaza, who
met with Security Council members. That's her

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first briefing since her appointment to the
post, and we will bring her back

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next time she's here. Turning to
Gaza, the Office of the Coordination of

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Humanitarian Affairs tells us that yesterday the
Israeli the usually military ordered the names of

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a Naser as Sheikh Radwan Ashati refugee
Camp Rima as Shamali and Al Janubi Sabra

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and as Sheik Aargeline and tell Alhawa
and western Gaza City to evacuate towards the

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south. The new order covered an
area of about twelve twelve point four to

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three square kilometers, which is about
three point four percent of the Gaza strip.

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That area is home to almost three
hundred thousand people since October seventh.

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Since then, nearly sixty shelters in
the area have been hosting about eighty eight

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one thousand internally displaced men, women
and children. In the second half of

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January, our humanitarian partners continued to
observe an increasing trend in denied and restricted

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access to northern and central Gaza.
The reason excludes excessive delays for humanitarian eight

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convoys before or at Israeli checkpoints and
heightened hostilities in central Gaza. Threats to

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the safety of humanitarian personnel insights are
also frequent, but not only impeding the

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delivery of time sensitive and life saving
aid, but also posing serious risks to

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those involved in humanitarian efforts. Meanwhile, we can confirm that yesterday the transfer

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of humanitarian supplies into Gaza through Curim
Shalan crossing with Israel resumed after four days

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of disruptions due to protest on the
Israeli side. Our Deputy Secretary General I

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Miana Mohammed is heading to Washington,
which is here in the United States,

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to meet with international financial institutions to
discuss key elements of the SDG stimulus.

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The reform and international Finance, Finance
Architecture, as well as the Summit of

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the Futures. Mohammad will engage in
bilateral meetings with the host government to discuss

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reforms of the UN development system.
She will be back here tomorrow, moving

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to Abbie in East Africa. And
in the aftermath of this weekend's violence,

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I just wanted to tell you that
our peacekeeping force there, known as UNISFA,

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is intensifying its efforts to protect civilians
with patrols and monitoring focus on central

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and southern Abia. Yesterday, our
peacekeeping colleagues there paid tribute to the two

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peacekeepers who lost their lives in an
attack over the weekend. Their bodies have

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now been flown to Antebe where they
will then make their ways home to Ghana

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and Pakistan respectively. I just want
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two peacekeepers. Sergeant Carrie Evans of
Ghana was thirty seven years old. He

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was killed when repelling an attack by
unidentified gunmen on our base in Agok and

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that took place on Saturday. Sergeant
Evans was deployed to Yunisfah in May last

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year and it has helped support the
missions protection activities the other colleague was Spay

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Mohammatarek was twenty six years old but
already had six years of service in the

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Pakistan don the Army. He had
arrived in Abvia to serve with the UN

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just two months ago. He was
killed on Sunday in an attack on his

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convoy while escorting wounded civilians who are
going for medical treatment, and of course

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we once again convey heartfelt condolences to
his colleagues, to his families, and

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to the people and government of both
Pakistan and Ghana. The UN personnel safety

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is a top priority for the mission
and they our colleagues at unisfar taking every

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measure to ensure they can continue to
fulfill their mandated tasks safely. We are

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actively supporting efforts to de escalate tension
and call local, national and international actors

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to collectively step up and seek solutions
at all levels to resolve the tensions.

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Unis FAI will continue carrying out its
mandate to protect the civilians in Abia and

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in South Sudan. The UN Peacekeeping
Mission there says it's strengthening its presence near

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the border with Sudan and peacekeepers are
intensified their patrols specifically in Abiamon County in

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Ruank State and in Mayam County,
which is in Unity State. A priority

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is to enhance security and along the
main supply routes, which is vital for

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the safe transport of humanitarian aid.
This comes as our peacekeeping colleagues in the

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country reported that they are responding to
an increasing number of incidents of cattle rating,

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ambushes of convoys and other acts of
violence in the northern region of South

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Sudan. The mission is also engaging
with local, state and national authorities to

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ensore coordinated approach to addressing security challenges
in the area and staying in eastern part

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of Africa. We in Somalia,
We, along with our partners of the

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federal and state government, today released
the twenty twenty four Humanitarian Needs and Response

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Plan, which seeks one point six
billion US dollars to help five point point

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two million men, women and children
in need. Last year, Somalia was

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hit by multiple shocks, including devastating
droughts, unprecedented heavy rains and flooding,

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and their new displacement. Millions of
people are also continuing to suffer from hunger

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and malnutrition in Somalia or Humanitarian colleagues
more and then more than four million people,

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nearly one quarter of the population remain
acutely food insecure. In Somalia.

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Two and five children under the age
of five suffer from acute malnutrition. Some

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three point eight million people are internally
displaced and coloradut break is spreading in several

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areas. And an update from someone
you often asked me about, but you

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haven't asked me about in a while. And that's stuff ONNDI mistorer Ah looking

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at you, my friend, um, the personal envoy of the Secretary John

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for Western Sahara. Stuff on.
De mistoy is on his way to South

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Africa at the invitation of the government
for meetings tomorrow with senior South African officials

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to discuss the issue of Western Sahara. Sounds like this. There will be

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a time for you to make comments, but it won't be for quite some

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time. Lastly, our honor Roll
And if I say to you rokuk,

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what do I mean rokuk rokuk no
ro cook. It's the initials for our

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two contributors, the Republic of Korea
and the United Kingdom. Our christ Mistress

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Jane Gaffney has outdone herself. We
thank both are good friends in London and

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soul for having sent their checks on
time to make it up on the honor

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roll. We now have thirty fully
paid up members. Michelle the mister Klein,

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thank you, Steph. A couple
of honor questions have has the Urine

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received the Israeli dossier? I spoke
to my own our colleagues a short while

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ago. They have yet to receive
anything in uh in writing. We've seen

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obviously the reports in the press,
but as soon as we've received something,

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we will act on it. But
we have not received anything. And you

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told us yesterday that Esja had met
with the head of o I O S.

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Traditionally, their investigations can take some
time. When could we expect to

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maybe see some preliminary results? You
know? We I think it's it's important

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that two things happen at the same
time, that we get the facts,

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that it would be a thorough investigation, an unpeachable investigation, and also that

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it'd be done swiftly to reassure everyone
about on his work. So at this

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point I can't give you a target
date. As as soon as I can,

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I will bet obviously there are doing
this independently. We want them to

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do it as quickly as possible,
but as efficiently as possible. Mister Klein,

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yes, is the Secretary General planning
to ask for a broader investigation of

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UNO's employees affiliation with HAMAS estimated according
to one intelligence report that up to ten

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percent of the thirteen thousand under employees
working in Gaza are affiliated with hamas.

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Is he asking for a more intensive
examination of the vetting procedures. And well,

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I take a couple of things first. As you know, Philip Plazarini

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himself has said that ANOI would commission
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at risk UH, to look at
how it does its operations. So that's

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something they themselves want to do.
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don't know how you you examine people's
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that any action that contravenes u N
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with, and I think mister Latserni
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also important to clarify something. Every
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with the host countries where it works. Right, so an works in Jordan,

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works in Lebanon, works in Syria
for the work that it does in

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Gaza and the West Bank. Anhui
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Palestinian Authority and with the Israeli government
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and as far as I'm told by, the concerns have not been raised when

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the list of staff have been shared. Guys. But have they shared this

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list with a de facto power in
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and they asked Hamas for a list
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can imagine the answer to uh,
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Our counterpart for the occupying Palistinian territory
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works with Hamas? So that's and
what does not I don't agree with the

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terminology or don't what does not work
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defacto authorities like we do in every
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de facto authorities, Margaret and Jordan, and then we'll go around it.

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Steph, did I give you a
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in jeopardy sort of in terms of
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of countries are saying no additional funding. So how much has actually been received

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versus how much is still outstanding?
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share with you all after the briefing. I know that the financial situation will

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be very precarious after especially after February. And I know on the website they

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just have the twenty twenty two donor
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we're just in January, but do
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will be available? How soon we'll
ask them? And just one other on

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a different subject, The coup anniversary
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going to be three years that this
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situation. Does the Secretary General?
Is he going to have a statement?

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I expect we will have a more
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clear. I think we would echo
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not long ago, which is that
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a free fall, The humanitarian situation
is desperate. We're seeing increase increase fighting,

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and meanwhile we're not seeing the release
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to see, including the former president
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abbie. Do you have any information
who did that? Tach? We're behind

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the attack on the Siberians and the
peacekeepers. I do not have who they

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were. As far as we know, they were men with guns. We

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don't know exactly who they were affiliated
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I don't know. Okay, your
microphones not on? For peacekeepers? We

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do you think, like why why
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mean, why why you aren't?
I mean, I mean, and I

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know it's it's maybe it's not your
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So don't ask the question why why
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peacekeepers? I mean to protect civilians? I mean you send Jordan. You

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you you've covered the UN as long
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well how peacekeeping missions are set up
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then once you have a resolution,
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willing to send their men and women
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question the es G the SG ever, so just to the Security Council to

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sabarge of course, to protect is
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for Gaza. Right now, our
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greater volume and quality of aid going
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political solution to this that would lead
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sure and price peace. Steph.
What is the Secretariat's reaction to what could

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only be termed as in transigent language
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as it regards the future of Gaza. Today he again said that Israel would

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not remove the idea from the Gaza
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statements affect the broader goal of the
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of Gaza and more broadly, the
two state solution. Well, I mean,

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I think you can do the compare
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has been calling for, what he
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But at the end of the day, there will be no getting around Israelis

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and Palestinians sitting down and figure out
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we want the fighting to stop.
We want the hostages to be released,

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and we want humanitarian a to be
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If those negotiations that you talk about
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would that be acceptable to the Secretary
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Journal is what is laid out for
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what Israeli is in Palestinians will agree
to Deji. So a couple of

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questions. First, on on Wah. Just now, the US ambassador said

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she hopes to see a fundamental change
to on walk with all that the Secretary

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General is going to have a meeting
with donors this afternoon. What changes can

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the Secretary General see in this very
special in this very institution that he might

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brought up to listen? First of
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USAID also some very kind words about
Andro and the dedication of the staff and

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the life saving work they are doing. As far as the Mandate is concerned,

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it is a General Assembly mandate right
for its work methods, and like

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any other part of the UN organization, is always willing and open to improving

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the way it does its work right
making it more efficient, maybe doing it

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better. And you know, it's
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call is will be setting up this
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So the words are very kind,
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is not very kind. Yesterday he
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General has proven once again that the
security of the citizens of Israel is not

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really important for him. Concerning his
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of Onwa's work, any response,
I would just say that I think looking

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at what the Secretary General has said
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you to a different conclusion. Well, sorry, one last question. This

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question is not about on what,
it's about the deaths of the US soldier.

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Today, President Biden said he had
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to respond to the drone attack on
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How worry is the United Nations on
this incident, and it might even bring

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this chaotic situation to a even broad
chaos. We're very concerned about the exchange

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of the kinetic activity that we've seen
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Syria, or in Iraq and other
places. All of this increases the risks

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of a widening of the conflict,
which is the last thing we want to

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see. Yes, Sir, Yes, Steph Christian. In Africa, it's

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not the wor Sahara, it's the
Echos the announcement of Niger wukin Mali that

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they are quitting the organization. First, house are used is it for the

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Secretary General? And second you always
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transition to the democracy in the three
countries. Now that they are out of

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Echoas, how are you going to
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all, I think I've seen also
what ECHOA has said which they remain they

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remain committed to finding a negotiated solution
to the political impass in which the organization

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finds itself with Bokina, Fasomali and
Niger. My understanding is also it's a

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process that takes that takes some time. Our special representative in the region,

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mister Chamau, is continuing to engage
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get through this political impasse. I
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organizations, these organizations play a very
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So how are you going to deal
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I mean, let's just say that
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those three countries remains the same today
as it was last week before their decision

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was was taken. Their issue is
between those three countries. In echowas our

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we will continue to engage with the
governments UH in the in those countries UH

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to push for an accelerated return to
democracy uh Shiry Faith and then Dennis and

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then yeah, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, good, Yeah,

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please go ahead. I'm just you
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you've been warning each day here you
come up and you tell us about the

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difficulties about eight getting through. And
it seems evident that famine and starvation is

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actually unfolding in Gaza. And we
can also see this from the visual visuals

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that are coming in from the strip. Considering that there are so many obstacles

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to transfer aid into Gaza, and
as these are confirmed by the provisions of

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the ic J the latest what are
your thoughts on the evaluations that Israel is

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employing starvation as a policy or as
a means of war. Listen what the

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ic J. I think we've taken
note of what the ICJ is said.

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For our part, our focus is
on increasing the volume of aid, increasing

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the volume of food that people in
Gaza desperately need. I think the World

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Food Program has been very clear on
these issues, as have our colleagues at

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on and to keep pushing for humanitarians
as far Dennis, So, in light

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of suspension of funding of several countries
of Honora, how would you in support

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work of HONA. Current finances dedicated
to this agency would end? And if

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there any plan be in the end
for hour funding, maybe relocation of some

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funds, well, you know,
there could be some very temporary band aid,

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but there's really no be I mean, you know how the un works,

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It's based on voluntary contributions. If
those member if the money is not

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coming in, the money is not
coming in. We unfortunately cannot print money,

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nor can we borrow money. Right, So this is why it is

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so important for us, and this
is exactly what we're doing to engage with

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donors, to answer all their questions, to answer their concerns, to express

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to them that we share those concerns. Right, but at the same time

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that while we're addressing these concerns very
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of the organization needs to go on, Miss Fasulo, Thank you, steph

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Excuse me, going back to the
unrestaff that have been fired. I was

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just wondering, like what the latest
developments are in terms of the two UN

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investigations, and after a staff person
has been fired by the UN, is

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there a requirement that they must cooperate
with any kinds of questions or or you

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know, investigation of what they're doing. I've done, Uh, I have

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to brush up my internal housekeeping house
house rules. But there is a there

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is a requirement for people who've been
separated from the organization to continue to cooperate

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with our own uh internal investigations.
Uh, Stephano then up to some and

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then you still want to first go
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ra Ra, I don't know how
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you will anyway by the Italian way, it sounds better in Italian. Well,

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anyway, it's UN so I should
be you if you remember a couple

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of weeks ago, so before came
uh this big scandal, I ask you

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what what you were thinking about the
UN Watch report about an that was busy

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specifically on something that they they were
analyzing a social where there were teachers from

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Hanrah. They're talking about thousands of
teachers that they were So you told me

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that you were investigating this. Uh. This My understanding is that telegram channel

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that you're referring to was not an
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more for one of people looking for
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tomorrow this is going to be presented
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Washington. There will be our colleagues
that are Mister Lesini has has submitted a

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letter for the record to that committee, so I'm sure that letter will be

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released once the hearing is set.
So you what the firing of people and

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is nothing based on that but the
different different different things. Uh to someday

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did you already ask questions? Then
you may ask one come back for a

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second round. Okay, So my
question about actually the US and the execution

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of Kenneth Smith and today different and
special report in Alabama. Yes, yeah,

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issued a statement condemning the execution but
also for it's cool and for using

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nitrogen gas inhalation. Do you have
any comments on that? Do you A

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couple of things? One I think
I was asked about this already an expressed

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uh uh reiterated or stand firmly against
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under these particular conditions. Also,
Volka Turk, the High Commission for Human

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Rights has written had written to the
Governor of Alabama expressing his concerns, which

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uh, which we share. Uh, you please think you stiff. So

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I have a quick question about cigarette
Cobb you and coordinator? So s you

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coordinated? Oh yeah, that's right, Senor. So finally we met her.

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So after that, what will she
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She's go back to Gaza. Could
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She will be heading to Washington tomorrow. And then I think if I'm

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not mistaken, because I listen.
I listened her steakout. She's doing a

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regional uh a regional tour. But
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steakout, it will list all the
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I'll miss one. But she she
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Jordan, that's exactly among others is
in Jordan. She's going back to you.

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I know where her office is a
snot what's your question? Okay,

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sorry, I just want to refrace
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Does the oyos have any staff in
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you relocate them? And I think
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have has any offers in Gaza?
And also the two individuals that's still not

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identified, like did you receive like
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don't want to put the names again, it's their photos? How how they

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are missing? They need yet to
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twelve people because you said nine being
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still have to identify. I don't
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shared with you. I would encourage
you to reach out to our colleagues that

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don't all and the last one is
o I also will investigate the killing of

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that person because they asked what one
of them was kept o O S I

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mean we OO S will investigate the
allegations brought forward against the staff members that

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we've spoken to you about. Joe. Then Maggie yes. First of all,

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have any UNRA or other un personnel
either offered or been asked by this

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House committee that's holding this hearing to
testify. So that's my first class.

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Mister LACERTI was invited. We're submitting
a letter. Okay, he's not sorry

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not to personally appear. Okay,
that's fine. I want to just go

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back to you objected to my use
of the word working with as a relationship

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between HAMAS and UNRES. So I'm
going to replace it with coordinate and I'm

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going to ask you, for example, has there been day to day coordination

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between HAMAS and UNRA in connection with
the acceptance and delivery of humanitarian aid in

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Gaza? Has it been coordination between
HAMAS and with respect to teaching materials used

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in unrisk school No, No,
I mean I think listen. UNWAH has

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repeatedly addressed the issues of the curriculum, and I would encourage you to get

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all the details of them, because
it's something that comes up over and over

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again. And they've addressed the curriculum
of the schools that run from kindergarten through

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ninth grade. They don't do.
They don't do high schools. We distribute

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on what distributes the aid. They
run their schools, they run their clinics,

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they run their hospitals. Margaret Steph
ms Coggs said there would be a

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database about goods that ye guess.
She mentioned that, do you know if

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that's something that's going to be an
online She mentioned it in relation to transparency,

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I can ask, I can ask, okay, And then the other

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thing. Could you just clarify one
thing in terms of the information that the

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Secretary General and mister Lazzarini were presented
by Israel regarding these dozen staffers. If

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you didn't get this dossier, then
what exactly did you get? Because the

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statement from mister Lazzarini on Friday just
says provided unrolled with information. So what

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form did there was? There was
a meeting where the information was provided about

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the staff members we've been talking to
you about. Uh, it was presented

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to mister Lattrini, not to the
Secretary Joe. Then in the press since

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then there's been talk about a quote
unquote Dosier, which is a separate thing

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which has not been transmitted to Unwell, sorry, but what was them?

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I mean, did they show them
videos? Did they show them the information?

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I don't know the exact format of
the give the information, thank you,

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Okay, So final thoughts and the
thought is coming around to this and

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there is going to be another federal
election coming soon to Canada, and what

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are the Canadian people going to decide? They're talking about the polls, how

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the Conservatives are running ahead of the
Liberals and that they're that the Liberals are

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playing catch up as far as what
people are thinking. And the real problem

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is the day to cast that vote. Those people who are being pulled now

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are they going to show up?
Are they going to show up and there

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are they going to vote the way
that they had discussed to all these other

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polls. The other question is we're
talking that this would be the third term

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for Justin Trudeau, and why is
he still pushing forward as the party leader?

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Why not consider stepping aside and let
somebody else take the leadership? Are

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his ideas becoming stale? And what
is he still looking to accomplish for the

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Canadian people. So a lot of
really good questions there, but the bottom

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line is is that it doesn't matter
what the polls say now. The poll

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that really matters is on election day. So answer your get your questions answered

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now so that you are prepared and
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