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Those who have strong perfectionistic tendencies.
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that stem from childhood needs going unmet. If you're the oldest of your siblings,

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if you have multiple siblings, you
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because as each sibling came along,
the attention you got from your parents was

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less and less and less. What
did you do to get your core needs

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of acceptance, belonging, connection,
love, and validation met. You started

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trying to be perfect. You got
straight a's, you won first place,

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you were the captain or All star
on your team. You learned that in

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order to get the attention that you
so desperately craved at a young age,

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you had to be perfect. That
is why you struggle even as an adult.

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And at this point we have to
recreate a sense of safety in making

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mistakes, in being less than perfect, find a sense of falling in love

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with the process. Hi, this
is Matt Subble from Lynden Washington and I

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play at Raspberry Ridge Golf Course.
This is Golf Smarter number ninety six Strategies

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for overcoming the push for perfection on
the golf course with Paul Salter and introducing

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the Golf Song. This is Golf
Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights

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from great golf minds to help you
lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

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There's your host, Fred Green.
Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Paul, Hello, Fred, Thank
you for having me. Thanks so much

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for joining us today. Because this
is the kind of stuff that I always

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like to get deep into because I'm
not going to just focus on mechanics,

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which I know people love, but
there's the difference between swing Like I played

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yesterday with these guys and I'm like, they're just swinging their club, they're

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not playing golf, and there's such
a difference there. I think that they're

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so focused on the mechanics of hitting
a golf ball, which they didn't do

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well, but golf ball And one
of the things that you know, doctor

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Joe Parrot has said for years and
years and years is being episode number one

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on the show, was I help
people get out of their own way.

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And that's something that you have been
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I want to start with on what
that actually means absolutely so the way I

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like to phrase it is I help
golfers overcome the emotional and mental hazards of

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their mind to get them out of
the proverbial bunkers keeping them stuck in a

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state of poor performance. And you
and I both know relatably, and you

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know speaking to other golfers that the
moment we are triggered by an errand shot,

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making a mistake, misreading a green, it's almost as if an uncon

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conscious automatic pattern triggers an emotional cascade
of nasty, defeating, self talking,

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limiting beliefs, defeeding stories, and
sabotaging behaviors that can send a seemingly great

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round quickly down the gutter in a
matter of milliseconds. And it is my

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job to work with golfers and the
other high performers I work with to help

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them uncover what I like to call
the destructive mindset programs that are keeping them

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stuck, whether in a play or
pattern of mediocrity, h mental hazards.

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What a great way to you know, we have to deal with so many

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different hazards on the terrain, but
there's the one that you carry in your

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bag, in your back pocket,
in your head, right that we always

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have to deal with. Well,
where do we start with that? You

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know you're right many there's so many
different triggers on the golf course, but

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we need to try to overcome.
And the beautiful thing here is mentioned in

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the beginning, like so many of
us are guilty of overly fixating on crafting

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the perfect swing. And it starts
with you know, you're so familiar with

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doctor Joe parent there and he really
talks about just this level of awareness and

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feeling into the swing first, to
allow your subconscious to kind of guide you

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to what's tight, what's off,
what feels a little different. The same

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approach can be taken to really assessing
your mental game as you're starting to bring

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more awareness as you show up on
the course the moment you hit an errant

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shot or you find yourself in a
difficult, unexpected lie, begin to take

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an inventory from that thirty thousand foot
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What am I feeling right now?
Why is their tightness in my chest?

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Why is there butterflies in my stomach
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can begin to connect the dots and
really observe a pattern of emotion, physical

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sensation that after the round is over, we don't need analysis during the round,

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but after the round is over we
can say, okay, I felt

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incredibly rushed and anxious because the force
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entire time. That anxiety and urgency
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shot off the tea box. And
we can start to gain awareness of what

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anxiety looks and feels like in our
body, connected to how it disrupts our

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natural flow and fluid swing. And
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incorporating either you know, some short
term impromptu strategies to control the breath and

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the emotion, or do a little
digger. I'm a little biased. I

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love hypnosis to get to the root
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we can release these big emotional blocks
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into the strategy's part as let's do
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I love myself as an example,
I'm the best getting pig here. So

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I remember, just last week,
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friends. We haven't seen each other
in a couple months. We're catching up

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and albeit my golf journey, as
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get to it and then I'm starting
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in on golf. But with that
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the foursome was on our tail from
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close for comfort on the tea box, and I had the proverbial tightness in

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my chest. I felt the tension
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I was struggling off the tea box. It makes perfect sense. So the

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best way to begin lowering that emotional
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found is through a variety of different
breathwork practices, and one of my favorite

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that I like to coach on and
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is I like to do two quick
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one loud, audible exhale. So
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rounds of that just to lower the
emotional volume of my brain and body,

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which I find allows that tension to
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I can reconnect with the present moment. Well, that's awesome and it's the

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kind of thing. Then if you're
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hopefully not in the cart with somebody
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dude, what's going on? I'm
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out of my head, right,
And but basically that's what you'd want to

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do, is just get away from
that. You know, Tiger always talked

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about just counting to ten, right, just counting to ten, just let

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and then let it go and focus
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to do, especially after a three
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you, that's that next shot mentality. What can you do? And there's

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a variety of strategies, but whatever
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be a priority after every shot to
redirect your focus to what you have in

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front of you, because that is
the only shot that matters in The most

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important shot of the round is the
next shot. It's also the hardest,

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agreed, The hardest shot in golf
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worked with a lot of people in
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a lot of professional athletes. And
one of the things that you listened

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in the bio that you sent me, and I'm left turn here. But

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I was just fascinated professional poker players. I had a hunch you were going

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there. So I'm not a poker
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They get in their own way as
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a detour that kind of runs parallel
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And then I pursued poker professionally for
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So I started to recognize despite all
of the studying, despite having a

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coach to help me with the technical
aspects of the game, I was my

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biggest enemy. The more money I
played for, the bigger buy ins and

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stakes, the more I found myself
in a position of knowing exactly what to

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do mathematically logically, but I couldn't
pull the trigger. There was a collection

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of fear, passivity, scarcity around
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known under the hood, which,
regardless of how little or how much you

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know about poker, let me tell
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losing a lot of money really quickly. So I hired my first mindset coach

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at that time, who did wonders
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the poker table, but in various
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in golf, we find on the
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and regulation is crucial so that you
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flow state, and play, you
know, effortlessly, with the utmost presence

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in every decision you make. Wow. Uh, I want to pursue that

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on a personal level, not the
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And I'm gonna do that when we
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about this a lot on the podcast
that I'm not one to gamble. I

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know that golf was designed as a
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that's what it is. But it's
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and I think it's probably ninety nine
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that I'm just like, I freak
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and it's like, because there's a
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Oh my god, you know,
I don't you know, I know what

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it is. Maybe it's my up
and greaming up up, up bringing.

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See I can't even say it without
getting but it's It's something that I think

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prevents me from playing with a lot
more people because they're like, well,

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he's no fun because he doesn't want
to he doesn't want to do what's all

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about. Yeah, you're not alone
there. We all carry our own collection

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of money related beliefs, fears,
and stories. And I'm a prime example,

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you know. And you're spot on
too. Our upbringing, specifically during

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a time where we're so impressionable and
malleable, those first seven years of our

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life in particular, and I can
tell you, you know, growing up

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as the oldest of four, the
more and more children and siblings that ultimately

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accumulated, the less and less money
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in a recession, you throw in
a mom who undulates between being a stay

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at home mom working part time in
full time. There's only so much money

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to go around. And when we're
so young, you know, we're not

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consciously aware of the conversations our parents
are having around money, particularly again those

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zero to seven years, but unconsciously
we're incredibly aware of every word, the

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tonality, the voice, the body
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money. We are just absorbing.
And you know, there's a cool concept

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out there. I can't take credit
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on one of his podcasts episodes called
your Emotional Home and whatever emotions that were

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most predominant in your house, And
if we talk about money, if it

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was scarcity and lack, those are
what you carry with you into adulthood,

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and your subconscious will deploy a series
of sabotaging behaviors and patterns to keep you

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rather to fulfill your need to get
this fix of whatever emotion is in that

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foundational emotional home of yours. So
for someone like me, I can speak

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from personal example. I grew up
with that scarcity mindset. I struggled,

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and it's very ironic. I took
a pursuit playing poker for as long as

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I did because my own personal spending
I was tightly wound. I was incredibly

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cheap. Frugal wasn't even the correct
word, because I was scared of letting

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money go. I would happily trade
hours and hours and hours for dollars,

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and I felt like I could never
have enough, Which opens up another layer.

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How does my relationship with money impact
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I am of love of success,
And if we have a very tight connection

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between how much money we make and
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That's a really tough, lonely and
dark path to traverse by yourself,

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because we will never feel we have
enough money. We'll hit the five the

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six figure months, and we'll still
not feel like that's enough to get the

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love of the success or the recognition
that we deeply crave on the inside,

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which is really just an unmet childhood
need from decades ago. Well, it's

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interesting. I've been self employed since
nineteen eighty six. Before that, I

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spent over a decade working in radio
in San Francisco, and I learned early

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in my career in radio that nothing
lasts. That in a heartbeat, you

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know, a new boss comes in, you're gone, right, So I

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never knew it's like, don't you
know, you make some money here,

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but don't spend it because you may
be out of work in a few weeks,

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right, type of thing. And
then being self employed this is kind

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of crazy. But as long as
I've been self employed, I think there's

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only been two or three years in
all that time that on January first,

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I knew how much money I was
going to make that year. So it

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was to me, gambling was waking
up in the morning and living our lives

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as if not in a scarcity mentality, but living in a way that it

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was like this could disappear at any
moment, So don't live like you how

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much money you just made this past
month or whatever it is, you know

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you just got to Now. Luckily
it's worked out because I was able to

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save some money, and I'm getting
older and I'm going to be able to

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retire at some point, but I'm
having too much fun doing this, so

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this may not be my retirement.
This is my retirement. So anyway,

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there is that element to it,
not just my upbringing but my professional life.

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a gamble when you're working for yourself. I can relate incredibly deeply to that.

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And really it's just a constant commitment
to betting on yourself, to knowing

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that you are going to find a
way to solve that problem, make it

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work, earn that money to pay
the bills, and it's a constant bet

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on yourself and a constant promise to
yourself that you keep every single day of

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showing up and giving all that you
have which which you find, read and

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see everywhere. Like, entrepreneurs and
self employed individuals tend to possess a depth

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of grittiness and persistence because, as
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They are not guaranteed a paycheck,
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skills that are applicable and transferable to
every walk of life. So true,

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So let's go into that. Now
we're on the golf course and there is

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money on the line, and I
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whatever games they want to play,
It's like, just tell me what I

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owe you at the end of the
round. How do I get past my

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own I don't want to call it
a disability, but how do I get

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rid of my own blocks to be
able to perform at my best without having

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to worry about the outcome obviously,
and not the outcome on the scorecard,

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the outcome out of my pocket.
Yeah, So that emotional hazard, that

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mental hazard, if you will.
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start with awareness. Like awareness in
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its best friend is action. We
know that nothing actually comes to fruition without

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the action part. So if you
notice, for example, and I'm gonna

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speak for you, and you're gonna
correct me in any step of the way,

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of course. But if you notice
anxiety, if you notice tightness and

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tens in your body, okay,
we know that's a pattern whenever money is

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involved in the golf course. So
off the course, away from the course,

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there's a lot of work we can
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your life in which you felt that
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at the end of the day,
that anxiety is a learned behavior around a

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given situation. It's part of the
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the surface over and over again.
So we need to get to the origin

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of where you learned this tension,
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and we need to go to that
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release that emotion altogether. So to
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like I use hypnosis as one of
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hypnosis is not me swinging up watch
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despite what Hollywood and Las Vegas may
portray. It is simply a state

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of deep relaxation with the intention and
make positive change. And we're able to

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use particular emotions or physical sensations,
such as anxiety in the chest as kind

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of a fast track or a catalyst
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childhood to other moments you similarly felt
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your chest feeling, and we're able
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of these early, if not the
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first had let's just call it as
an arbitrary example, not a you example,

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a panic attack, a tightness of
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and we're able, through a thirty
thousand foot view with curiosity and safety,

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just examine what was going on,
what need was not met, what was

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missing from your life? What resource, gift or message can we give that

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younger version of you to fully rectify
the situation so that the learned behavior no

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longer has a purpose. And the
beautiful thing about this type of work,

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it has a massive ripple effect all
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you begin feel increasingly more calm,
comfortable in these situations. It's almost like

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you develop an invisible wall of protection. Nothing phases you, which inevitably helps

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you dial in the mindset and the
focus that should have been there all along

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on your next shot, on your
current shot, I can take another break.

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I want to pursue the idea of
what tools to use when you're in

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that situation right after this. So
let's pursue that we're we're out on the

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golf course. We're feeling the tightness, we're feeling the tension. What tools

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can I pull out on my bag? Can I pull out of my pocket

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to help me get past the moment, help me release the tension and not

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worry about the two dollars, right, whatever the amount is, the twenty

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dollars, one hundred dollars, whatever
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That's not why we're here. Let's
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key. That for me is the
biggest problem. I'm not having fun because

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I'm worrying about the money. Yeah, now, I've got three tools to

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share. I totally agree with you. So first and foremost, take a

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walk, literally, whether it's before
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the person in your group is hitting, go walk fifteen yards away from the

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golf cart, take space, get
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your foursome, the group behind you, the whole that you are playing.

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And I've found that that literal physical
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distance and perspective from the situation.
We're able to detach and see that I

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came here to play golf with my
good friends and have fun. I'm being

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silly. I might use the word
stupid if I'm talking about myself getting so

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tightly wound about this. It's a
couple dollars here, or it's twenty dollars,

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whatever it may be, it doesn't
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So that literal physical distance can be
a wonderful tool to give you space,

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which helps to begin turning down the
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two, I love what you said, Like, how can we get back

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to the fact that I'm here to
have fun and enjoy myself finding a way

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to infuse laughter. There's a reason
that's a cliche that goes around for centuries.

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Laughter is the best medicine. How
can you find humor, silliness or

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laughter in this situation that you're getting
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or that you're letting something as simple
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the intention at hand, which is
to have fun playing a game that you

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once or hopefully still do love.
And strategy number three again breath work,

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finding your breath, connecting to your
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beneficial, and of course there's many, but in this particular moment, when

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stress, tension, and anxiety or
high, what's inevitably happened is our mind

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has wandered to either the past or
the future. It's obviously going to rob

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us of hitting our fluid, smooth
golf swing that we want. The breath

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work literally brings you to the present
moment, and in doing so, it

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turns up the volume of your logical, rational mind, therefore making it easier

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to see this is a game we
love, I'm playing with my friends,

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it's not a big deal. And
it turns down the intensity, the magnitude

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at which we felt those previous feelings, so that we can focus, regroup

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and go on to our next shot. Thank you, those are excellent.

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Uh. And you know one of
the things that the new golfers and many

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golfers, I mean it's not just
new golfers. There's this pursuit of,

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you know, perfection. I guess
it's like I want to be able to

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be consistent on the golf course.
Well, you know what when you have

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two shots that are exactly the same
and you hit them right, yeah,

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they may You know what are we
talking about? What consistency is? And

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there's nothing there's no such thing as
perfect, not just in golf but anywhere.

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There's just no such thing as perfect. They're getting better and that's important,

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but this false sense of need to
be you know, come on,

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we're not on the tour. This
is a game. So this pursuit of

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perfection in our minds, how do
we relax that and still enjoy ourselves?

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Your spot on? There is definitely
a dark side to chasing perfection, to

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say the least. You know,
consciously we think, oh, my goodness,

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like to be perfect, to hit
every single shot in the sweet spot

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of the club, to send it
directly to where we go. And that's

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the funny thing about golf, Like
we hit that sweet shot, the perfect

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apex trajectory right where we aim,
and we think, oh my goodness,

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easiest game in the world. It's
intoxicating. It's addictive, to say the

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least. But when it comes to
perfection, like first and foremost, like

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logically it doesn't exist like we have
to be able to step back and reframe

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that situation and truly recognize that.
Easier said than done, depending on your

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relationship with perfection. And of course
I'd be remiss if I didn't address the

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emotional aspect of perfection. Those who
have strong perfectionistic tendencies. These are learned

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behaviors and beliefs and actions that stem
from childhood needs going unmet. If you're

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the oldest of your siblings. If
you have multiple siblings, you are far

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more prone to perfectionistic tendencies because as
each sibling came along, the attention you

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got from your parents was less and
less and less. What did you do

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to get your core needs of acceptance, belonging, connection, love, and

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validation met? You started trying to
be perfect. You got straight a's,

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you won first place, you were
the captain or all star on your team.

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You learned that in order to get
the tension that you so desperately craved

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at a young age, you had
to be perfect. That is why you

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struggle even as an adult now and
at this point we have to recreate a

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sense of safety in making mistakes,
in being less than perfect, find a

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sense of falling in love with the
process, not the results. How can

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you reinvigorate and add a sense of
play, a sense of curiosity when you're

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on the putting green, when you're
on the range, how can it be

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playful, joyful, childlike to rob
you of the or to remove the pressures

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of perfectionism so it can go back
to being the game you once fell in

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love with. And then once you
make a mistake, how do you accept

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that and move on? How do
you recover from that? So two things

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a or one compassionate curiosity why why
did the ball go left? Why did

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the ball go right? Just a
sense of wonder that child the light curiosity.

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Two you're gonna be pre programmed with
an emotional response and a slur of

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bad words. Or two after that
errant shot goes into the woods. So

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there, I like to say,
you have two options. One you have

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ten seconds to feel your feelings before
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Or two rather than this huge emotional
explosion, it is passional and or passionate

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radical acceptance. It just happened.
You are not someone who can go back

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in time it happened. Next shot
mentality, Yeah, get over it,

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Yeah, get over it. And
I'll add too. Like, just like

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building and maintaining muscle and strength in
the gym, you've got to consciously,

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constantly and intentionally practice these techniques to
flex your mental muscle as well. Every

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single time it gets easier and easier. But I think we can both relate

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the moments or the periods of time
we have lapses in doing those little things

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that it's like, oh, I
don't feel as good or I'm not playing

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as well as I typically do because
my consistency doing those little mental techniques has

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been inconsistent. Once you bring back
consistency, everything falls into its place.

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But then we have to manage your
emotions right, And there's such a wide

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range of them on a golf course
in any given round. What's the path

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there? How can we manage the
emotions to not drag them. We've talked

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about various ways of this, but
I think it continues on managing you know

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what you're going through, recognizing,
like you said, recognizing what you're going

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through, but continue to manage them
so they don't get in your way.

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Yeah. So, first and foremost, like, what's the low hanging fruit

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for you? Is it anger and
frustration? Is that your biggest hazard that

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derails your performance? Or conversely,
a lot of people is surprisingly struggle with

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over confidence and excitement where they're so
excited a player, they're so confident that

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they are going to absolutely crush their
friends. That too, produces tension and

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tightness in their body. So we
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But the way to manage and prevent
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doesn't become counterproductive is I am a
big proponent of routines pre shot, post

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shot routine, post whole routine.
Micro moments spread throughout your mound, throughout

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your round. Excuse me where you
can regroup, turn down that emotional dial

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with a couple breaths, a quiet
moment, a moment of reflection, and

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those micro moments that are consistently interspersed
help to temper the emotion to keep you

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even keel steady, Eddy as you
need to be in control, rather than

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having an emotion in the driver's seat
of your round. Yeah, and then

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quieting all the negative self talk.
Yeah, right, absolutely. So,

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then then we get to the point
of when we're putting pressure ourselves or we're

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in a pressure situation, you know, competitively. Now now it's not just

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two bucks on the line. Now, it's you know, the title that

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you're looking for playing competitively and doubt
inevitably shows up. But how is it

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that we can perform with the confidence
that we arrived at the first t to

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maintain that over the four hours despite
the fact that things are going to happen

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that are out of your control.
Once the ball leaves the face of the

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club, you're done right, And
so we have to find and trust that

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confidence. Yes, you use a
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me, I'm sure you and the
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lot of the work is done off
the course to make life easier or or

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at least your path to playing your
best with less friction more consistently. So

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again, there's a lot of opportunity
for off the coursework here to mentally prepare.

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I mean, you had a recent
guest who talked a lot about the

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power of hypnosis visualization, really see, feel and experience what it's like in

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these moments. You know, there's
so many different modalities and frameworks that we

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can utilize in hypnosis to give you
that sense of control to turn down the

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emotions, to reframe and step into
those situations so that when you are putting

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for the tournament on the eighteenth hole, it's like you've already been there.

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However, you know, one of
the traits that truly separates the best of

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the best from the rest is their
ability to fall in love with and ruthlessly

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execute the monotonous basics over and over, regardless of how they feel. So

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to bring it back to the question
at hand. Here, you know,

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as the you know, day four
of the tournament is going on, or

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making the turn to the back nine
here, and the pressure is slowly increasing,

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your lead is tightening, or maybe
you're a tie totop the leader board,

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You're going to feel so many different
temptations and distractions that want to pull

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you away from your routine. You
know, physically speaking, there's going to

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be a desire to maybe tighten up
because the spotlight, the pressure, the

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burden is now literally weighing down upon
us. So it's learning to recognize the

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temptations and triggers, the self talk
patterns that are all completely unique for each

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individual based on their experience and upbringing, but recognition and awareness of them allows

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you to simply acknowledge and let go. You don't have to keep thinking that

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thought pattern that's entered your mind.
You have fifty to seventy thousand thoughts a

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day, you can let some of
them go. They don't all serve you.

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So with that said, it's a
commitment and an intentionality to the small

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things, the micro routines throughout your
round. That is your best asset to

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keeping an even mind to play your
best. And this is why I love

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doing a Golf Smarter podcast versus doing
instructional videos because it's that part of the

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game that is not emphasized when you're
watching videos they're talking about the mechanics and

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that you know, being able to
take that part of the game which we've

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been talking about now, of helping
yourself be a better golfer and not just

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focused on you know, let your
body do what it's going to do and

415
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just be a smarter, better golfer
that way, and you will improve your

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game. This has been really fascinating, Paul, and I appreciate you helping

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00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:54,680
us substantiate what we've been talking about
all along. How can people find you

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online, get in touch with you
and have further conversation with you about this?

419
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,880
Yeah, absolutely so Instagram. I
hang out quite a bit at Paul

420
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,799
Salter Coaching. You can check out
my new podcast that details my own personal

421
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journey to becoming a scratch golfer,
a Scratch Golfer's Mindset Podcast, or check

422
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:21,119
me out on Golf Mindset coaching dot
com. And how long have you been

423
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playing golf? So? I played
religiously from about the ages of nine to

424
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sixteen or seventeen, and then I
didn't touch clubs but one time for fifteen

425
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:37,119
years. And here we are at
just over that chapter of not touching clubs,

426
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,359
getting back into things once and for
all. And how long you've been

427
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,599
at it again? It's been about
a what's today? It's been almost a

428
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month, so we are very new
into it. A couple one on one

429
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lessons under the belt, a couple
rounds of nine, another one this weekend.

430
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,720
So why do you have a pursuit
to being scratch golfer? That's a

431
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,440
loaded question, but I'll give my
best say answer. So as I've continued,

432
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,640
you know, I have a strong
poker background, a lot of my

433
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
clientele as poker players. As you
know, fate had it. I've started

434
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:13,239
working more and more with golfers.
It has really reinvigorated my passion for the

435
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,840
game and something that's been missing in
my life the last year or two has

436
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been an element of play, an
element of competition. I am incredibly competitive,

437
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so golf really stokes the flame of
competition in play. And I think

438
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,880
you'll agree when we have an abundantly
clear goal on the horizon, just the

439
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,079
ability for that goal to channel our
energy, our focus, to help us

440
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,440
stay clear of distractions is a fast
track to elevating us into the best version

441
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,079
of ourselves. And the fact that
golf is a game that demands presence,

442
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,199
a mindfulness practice, emotional awareness and
management, all facets of life that help

443
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,920
you be the best version of yourself. It's a natural marriage and trajectory that

444
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,400
as I continue to prepare for a
lofty and vicious goal in the golf course,

445
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:05,159
I get to grow as an individual
to be the best boyfriend, eventually,

446
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,519
the best father, you know,
the best brother, son, friend,

447
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,400
whoever it may be. And it's
a ride that I am ready for

448
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,960
and ready to ready to tackle well. I wish you all the luck in

449
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,000
the world in your pursuit of scratch
perfection. But just to remind you,

450
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,880
it's not that easy, and it's
supposed to be fun. Don't beat yourself

451
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,800
up, buddy. I appreciate the
reminder. Well, we're not completely done

452
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,039
yet, because we're going to have
one more section here. I'm inviting a

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00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,480
friend to join us to tell us
about a fun little song that he wrote,

454
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:47,239
and we're going to do that in
just a moment. Welcome to the

455
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Golf Smarter podcast. John, great
to be here. Thank you. So.

456
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,599
John and I have known each other
for a long time. If regular

457
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:59,559
listeners the Golf Smarter will know that
I've referred to Neil many times in this

458
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,719
show for well over a decade,
because he even took a lesson with Tony

459
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Manzoni when he and I were down
together in the Palm Desert area. And

460
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,760
this is Neil's baby brother, John, and I use the term baby lightly

461
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,159
except I've seen him on the golf
course and John, in the last few

462
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,159
years took up golf. Now,
you were a religious basketball player. You

463
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,960
played every weekend. You were on
the basketball court, you know, trying

464
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,320
to prove sometimes. Yeah, just
trying to prove that you were a lot

465
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,760
younger than you actually were. And
we all know better that John, You're

466
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,159
gonna hurt yourself, Dude, play
golf. You'll hurt yourself there too.

467
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:51,719
Yeah. How are you feeling right
now? Yeah? Right, exactly months

468
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,480
off. So tell me what is
it that got you interested in playing golf?

469
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,960
I think just really, more than
anything, spending time with my brother

470
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:06,239
and people like you in a in
a in a beautiful place at least when

471
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,239
the weather's nice. And did you
play as a kid. I know that

472
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,119
Neil played with your dad as a
kid, but did you join in or

473
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,079
it was like very little? You
know, four times a year, maybe

474
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:22,119
that would be a lot. And
then over the past few years with you

475
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:28,719
and Neil a little bit more but
never quite enough to brother, but not

476
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,840
enough to take it seriously. And
then in the past year Neil brother,

477
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,079
Neil really got me out there a
lot, and I've kind of committed to

478
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:45,599
Okay, I wanted enough enough of
what I was doing before. Now let's

479
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:50,320
like commit to it and try and
learn how to to really play. I

480
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400
think, as you know, I
never used to. I didn't hit a

481
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:59,039
driver till like a year ago.
Maybe a little again, hitt an iron

482
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:04,039
off the tee, all right,
and even if that goes well, it's

483
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,239
not that's not the game. It's
not. That's not how you're supposed to

484
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,199
play. Well. So now I
actually love hitting the driver. It's my

485
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:14,320
favorite part of the game. Oh
wow when it goes straight and well,

486
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,920
it's just part of the game,
right. So I joined to where my

487
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,920
brother is and I'm getting out there
two or three times a week. Whoa,

488
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,360
and are you enjoying it? I
am. It's a lot of time

489
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,239
to spend with your brother because I'm
the youngest of three as well, and

490
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,840
my middle brother is also Neil,
so we share that. But my brother's

491
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,079
a tennis player and he has no
interest in golf. Also, you know,

492
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,159
as I'm getting older, I got
to find a way to spend my

493
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,320
time. So it's like, okay, let's let's get into that. That'll

494
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,199
that'll take a lot of time.
Yeah, yeah, And it's a good

495
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,920
walk spoiled, yes, as you
say in the song, which well here

496
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,400
in a minute, and that's why
we're here. So what was your musical

497
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,400
journey? How did you get to
the point where you're now writing songs as

498
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,719
well? I picked up a ukulele, like seven years ago out of the

499
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,719
clear Blue, looked on a website
how to play beginner ukulele, started playing

500
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,239
Friend of the Devil, and like
from that day forward, I was playing

501
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,679
the ukulele every day, an hour
a day, and then like a couple

502
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,960
of years ago, start changing the
guitar. And then I actually found writing

503
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:34,039
songs was how I learned best,
you know, learning certain things like one

504
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:38,360
four five, kind of basic structure
of writing a song. And I like

505
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,280
writing, so it just it was
a it was a good mashup of things

506
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,039
that I like to do, written
a bunch of songs. I've got a

507
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:50,800
YouTube channel and I don't know what
possessed me to write a song about golf,

508
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,800
but you did, but I did, and I and I want to

509
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,360
say thank you for including me in
your video. There's photos of me in

510
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,639
there and a little bit of video
when we were up at Bandon Dunes last

511
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:05,519
year. So when we went to
Bandon Dunes, and I've talked about this

512
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:09,559
trip, I went with John and
Neil and Joel, the three brothers,

513
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:15,280
and your nephew, Neil's son,
and we each you know, each person

514
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,400
got to pick somebody to bring.
So we had two foursomes and Neil chose

515
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360
me and so or did you pick
no? And so we went up to

516
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Band and Duns and had a phenomenal
time. And then you come home and

517
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,519
now you've written a song about golf, and I'm including it and thank you

518
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:36,480
for doing that. So tell me
what motivated a golf song which is called

519
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,639
golf song. I had had other
names, but I thought, you know,

520
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,599
just cut to the chase and maybe
it'll get more more hits. Well,

521
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,599
yeah, it's it's really it's really
clickbait that says golf song. Tee

522
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,840
it up again. Here you go. Actually I was going to call it

523
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,159
a good long, a good walk
spoiled, but I figured you know that,

524
00:40:55,519 --> 00:41:00,119
I think that's been used a couple
of times. A couple of times.

525
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,920
Well, anyway, thank you for
writing this song. It was fun.

526
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,599
So let's hear it. Okay,
thanks for coming on, John,

527
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:12,159
thank you, and let's let's play. Let's play soon we'll do Okay.

528
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:30,000
Here is a golf song by John
Polchek. Crush my driving off the d

529
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:35,519
h the second straight. It ain't
true, got a thirty yard chip,

530
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:43,119
but then well that song and I
can't do hit the flax, they get

531
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:50,480
back the shades, takes a nasty
bounce or two off the fat down the

532
00:41:50,760 --> 00:42:06,039
soap scraash. It's a good walk, boy, that's the tree thing man.

533
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:14,280
I'll meet you here tomorrow. We'll
beat it all again. It's a

534
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:22,360
good walk. Spoil Mark Twein said
way back when I'll meet you here tomorrow.

535
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:36,840
Rope. If you get up again
staring down a birdie, but turn

536
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,960
up your feed, you away.
I get the gipsy and leave it short.

537
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:47,480
Well, let's be that kind of
okay, it's so cage. Just

538
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:57,119
save your part to myself and praying
from three feet it's looking good. Then

539
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:07,880
it is out. Fuck no way, it's a good walk. Spoil.

540
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:15,000
My frustration knows no end. I'll
meet you here tomorrow. If you do

541
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:22,480
read all again, it's a good
walk, spoiled eye. Set a shot

542
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:30,360
one hundred and ten. I'll meet
you here tomorrow. We'll lead up again.

543
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Now, I'll keep your head still, follow through. Let the club

544
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:49,000
do all the work. Slow your
swing, turn your bits, stop playing

545
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:55,559
like a jerk, change your grip, adjust your stance. Try this club

546
00:43:55,679 --> 00:44:12,760
instead. I gotta try in silence
all the voices in my head it's been

547
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:19,239
a challenging around you day. Kind
of happy that we're all most Just a

548
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:25,639
short Part three awaits us in the
setting summer sun, where I hit a

549
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:35,320
perfect seven nron straight at the cup, runs inches away from glory. You

550
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:46,000
over steal my hole in one,
bastard. It's a good walk, spoil

551
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:54,280
Bee sitting alone in my den.
I'll meet you here tomorrow. Do you

552
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:04,199
with all again? It's a good
walk store that starts here with friends.

553
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:12,519
I'll meet you here tomorrow. It
up again, said, I'll meet you

554
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:37,440
here tomorrow. It up again and
again and again and again. And by

555
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,599
the way, if you've composed your
own song about golf, I'd love to

556
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:46,159
hear it. Okay, we've passed
the registration deadline for our first of many

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golf adventures together, so it's time
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hope to do for the foreseeable future, golf Smarter and TMI golf dot Com

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this one is going to be unique
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of golf, walking tours, wine
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say we because this is a couple's
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566
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this week's Golf Smarter Ambassador, Matt
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